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Wikipedia is now at least 5 years old. The encyclopedia has clearly achieved its objectives in becoming a functioning and high-quality wiki-encyclopedia. Early on, it probably needed to have "fun" things to "award" users to keep interest. However, now, Wikipedia should generate enough interest in and of itself. That is why the time has come to delete all the superfluous foolishness that has worn out its usefulness.
I propose eliminating "barnstars." Deleting them from our database. They just waste time, space, and give editors a false sense of accomplishment that impedes their future efforts. I am testing out reaction here first before presenting this as a formal proposal. Any feedback would be appreciated. Discharging P ( talk) 02:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
It causes editors to "rest on their laurels" so to speak. They won't be as eager to strive for better if they are rewarded for the mediocre. Discharging P ( talk) 03:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Just what do you mean by that sir? I am only trying to help. Discharging P ( talk) 04:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is serious business. ☯ Zenwhat ( talk) 19:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, original poster of this section has been blocked as a sock. This was possibly a bit of trolling. CredoFromStart talk 20:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Wiki is serious (although its not a business!) and as such people should be regonized for their acoplishments. Cheers! Skeletor 0 ( talk) 02:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm working over at WP:Admin coaching to overhaul the program and as part of it, decided to collect a list of places people who weren't ready to be admins could help out. Is it me or is there a lot of duplication (and I didn't include all the places I could've)?
So you feel that
admin coaching isn't right for you at this time. Maybe you feel that you need more experience. Maybe you are happy editing and don't want the responsibility of the extra
tools. Maybe you have some
skeletons in your closet and need time and experience to regain the
community's trust. These are some things you can do that will help you build experience regardless of your eventual goal.
|
MBisanz talk 06:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Apologies if this is a newbie mistake in raising this issue here:
A newbie edits a page. An experienced editor removes that edit. The newbie asks the experienced editor "why?", on the experienced editor's discussion page. No reply is forthcoming, for many weeks.
Newbie checks Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes but can find nothing about what to do if you just get no reply. Couldn't it say something about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craytina ( talk • contribs) 13:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
1. What content can be copied from the EOL into Wikipedia? Much of the content is Creative Commons (CC) licensed.
2. What content can be copied from Wikipedia into the EOL? As I understand it, all Wikipedia content is GFDL, but some is also multi-licensed with CC.
Also, I encourage you analyze the site (especially their exemplar pages), then fill out their survey and suggest collaboration with Wikipedia and Wikispecies. Here are links for their institutional partners and data partners. Also note previous discussion at the WikiEN-l Archives. - kslays ( talk, contribs) 19:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
We could also walk through wikipedia content and ask authors to dual license with CC. How's the FSF deal for GFDL/CC compatibility coming along? -- Kim Bruning ( talk) 00:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I have been contributing to WP for about two years. During that time, I have been openly and publicly personally attacked by another user. He is also stalking me, which is why I am posting this anonymously. Why has nothing ever been done about this? And what can be done about this now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.126.66.106 ( talk) 10:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello.
Would anyone mind giving some input over at naming conventions regarding English / foreign military operational names? Over at WP:Military history we've run into a snag that we were hoping could be resolved there, and any additional feedback is welcome. 20:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Due to some confusion and problems this practice has caused in the past, I've started a policy-in-progress regarding it. I'm not quite sure how it should work specifically, so everyone is welcome to chime in: Wikipedia:Discussion closing. Thanks. Equazcion •✗/ C • 06:51, 3 Mar 2008 (UTC)
Hi, there is currently a discussion going on at pt:Wikipedia:Ignore todas as regras about the Wikipedia:Ignore all rules policy. I've seen this rule in several languages, but I am a bit confused whether this is one of the pillars of Wikipedia or not, the French wikipedia for instance, says that it is an unchangeable rule, here it says that Jimbo Wales says it is and always has been, which is almost the same, but in other wikipedias like the Catalán one, it only says it is policy. Now, I am beeing accused by some over there of disturbing the peace for bringing that policy into the portuguese wikipedia, but that is the furthest from the truth. Can anyone recommend how I should proceed? Should I just drop this? GoEThe ( talk) 19:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
We are attempting to determine where consensus lies at the talk page for Ignore all rules.
Please give your opinion here: Wikipedia talk:Ignore all rules#Confirming existing consensus. (1 == 2)Until 17:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I have posted several suggestions for changes in the WMF privacy policy at the WMF site: [2]. The gist of the suggestions is to institute a requirement for notifying those registered users whose identifying info is being sought by subpoenas in third-party lawsuits. These suggestions are motivated in large part by a discussion that took place in January 2008 on this page, [3] in relation to an incident where identifying IP data of sixteen Wikipedia users was released in response to such a subpoena. I hope that those people who took part in the January discussion here, as well as other interested wikipedians, will participate in the discussion of these suggestions at the WMF website, [4]. Regards, Nsk92 ( talk) 18:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the standard is for leading articles on organizations with their own misson statement? In my opinion it is not appropriate because mission statements only serve to promote the organization, and encyclopedias are supposed to be nuetral. I do not recall ever seeing mission statements in other encyclopedias such as World Book and Britticana, However they are much more prevalent on Wikipedia. Please respond on my talk page. Thanks for the help! Richprentice ( talk) 05:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)Richprentice
A proposal has started to allow established or trusted editors to edit via Tor, or other anon proxy. This discussion is located at
The proposed policy in its “needs to be worked on” form is located at
Regards, M-ercury at 23:22, January 14, 2008
Some users have begun tagging RPG-related articles indiscriminately with the Notability-Books tag. Given that RPGs are indisputably popular, but that they appeal to a specific subculture and thus references to them do not frequently appear in more mainstream, widely acceptable articles, is there a way to create a more industry-specific notability guideline for these games and their spinoffs? Thanks. Snuppy 15:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
When someone is about to win an election or nomination, but has not do so officially, is it permissible to place such information in that person's article? For example, yesterday Senator John McCain clinched the Republican Party nomination for President (he now has a majority of the Republican delegates). Of course, he does not officially become the nominee until those delegates vote at the Republican National Convention (in September). It's possible he could die or decline the nomination. So far two editors have placed McCain's name in as the new nominee of the Republican party, because he has clinched the nomination. Two other editors have reverted those edits, because he is not officially the nominee until the Republican National Convention. Which two editors are correct? For the record, I am not a member of either pair of those editors and I am not attempting to cause a change of policy. I just want to know if there is such policy and, if so, what is that policy. -- SMP0328. ( talk) 21:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I am editing Liechtenstein and it says:
According to the CIA World Factbook, defense is the responsibility of Switzerland. However, this can be considered a myth since no official sources of either Switzerland or Liechtenstein supporting this claim are published. Specifically, no defense treaty is mentioned in the very detailed description of the bilateral relationships of the two countries provided on Liechtenstein's official website.
I argued that the second sentence was unverifiable and unsourced and should be removed because absence of evidence does not prove one fact or another, it simply proves that it is a subject that requires more research. In any case, I emailed the Embassies of Liechtenstein and Switzerland in Washington, D.C. and asked them if the CIA World Factbook was correct. I received a reply from both embassies that it was in fact incorrect and Switzerland was not responsible for the defense of Liechtenstein. I was wondering how I would go about citing the email and what policies would apply to research done in this manner. Is WP:OTRS set up to handle these sort of things or is there some other policy page I should go visit? Copysan ( talk) 23:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Deletion of a category following a consensus discussion at CFD or UCFD has traditionally meant that all pages must be removed from the category, and restoring the category to pages (even without creating the category page) is considered disruptive. That's recently apparently changed, and the people who are trying to change it are also trying to rewrite history to claim that was never the case. I'd like some clarification. — Random832 20:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm with BF here. Ill-advised, dead horse, etc, etc. Besides, where do you stop? If they can't put their userpage in a red-linked category, can they simply link to it? What about the text with no link? If it shouldn't exist in any form, do we remove references to the now-deleted category in discussions? I say let it go. The category is gone. -- Kbdank71 21:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm Eddie from BlankTV, www.BlankTV.com We're a fully licensed independent music video channel, a BMI/ASCAP/SESAC affiliate, with a library of almost 4,000 indie music videos. We used to use Google Video as a platform and have switched over to YouTube. I'm writing to check on your policay about posting links to a band's music videos on YouTube. Most of our bands do not actually have Wikipedia pages, but the bigger ones all seem to and we thought it would be a cool resource to be able to read the band's history and then click over and see/hear them play. I tried posting a link to a Pulley music video, but one of the bots rejected it. So I just wanted to see if it's something that we can do without violating the policies or spirit of the Wikipedia site. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlankTV ( talk • contribs) 01:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Every year Iowa State's campus radio station KURE holds a 26 hour trivia marathon Kaleidoquiz. For the last several years there have been reports of vandalism from some teams competing and the station wanted to give Wikipedia the heads up. It's highly likely that edits made between the hours of 5PM CST Friday the 7th of March (tomorrow) and 7PM CST Saturday from Iowa State IP addresses are likely students in residence halls attempting to sabotage other teams. If possible a temporary ban on edits from Iowa State for those hours might be a good idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.202.141.88 ( talk) 03:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I've proposed to significantly change the way speedy deletions for notability are handled. The discussion has been moved to Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Propose a modification to Deletion policy (specifically WP:CSD#A7) -- barneca ( talk) 21:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
If you haven't, please consider participating here and adding your view on whether the passing percentage for RfBs should be changed. I'll post this at WP:AN and AN/I, as well, and it has been raised at WP:VP before and is posted on TEMP:CENT. Avruch T 22:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Last call, last call for IP block exemption policy. We have been going once, going twice; on this page, and at Wikipedia_talk:IP_block_exemption#Who_is_strongly_opposed?
If you have any remaining issues with this policy, please say so *now*. I'm posting here to make sure that no one can later claim that "the community has not been heard, and there was no consensus on this". If anyone claims this after tomorrow, we'll all just point and laugh at you. ;-)
-- Kim Bruning ( talk) 20:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Obviously no one is going to show up 'till I post a policy tag. Will do so now. ;-) -- Kim Bruning ( talk) 22:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Now policy. Those who don't grasp/want wiki-way policy formation cannot claim that "people weren't heard", as they had their chance :-P. I totally expect a number of people who *are* familiar with the wiki-way to still have comments though (I've been around ;-) ). So I'll wait a day or two before going to devs. -- Kim Bruning ( talk) 18:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
(This was appended to the previous discussion; I added the header, based on the article name.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Horologium ( talk • contribs) 14:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC) I noticed looking at the "Danny Keough" article that it was incorrectly formatted. The article was in two columns and the end notes were in one column. That is the opposite of what should have been done. It would have been the right way if the notes were longer than the paragraphs, but such was not the case. The rule is that if you have more than 3 or 4 lines in a one column paragraph, it should be broken into two columns. The number depends on the width of the page. In the case of article with notes, since you don't want to make the formatting too complicated, the number of columns should be one or two in the article but always one in the notes, unless the notes are very long. 72.209.202.195 ( talk) 12:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
This is about people who held differing nationalities throughout their life. On the biographical article itself one can give all of this information. However in other pages, for example name disambiguation pages, this is not appropriate. However many such pages give the fist name, a nationality and a word or two on their significance.
In these cases which nationality should be chosen. Where is the correct place to find existing guidelines or otherwise address this concern? Thehalfone ( talk) 09:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Related question ... how would you classify people when the nation they were born and lived on got partitioned into two countries? For example, if person X was born in area Y of entity Z, but lived most of his productive life in area Y1 of Z, and later Z gets partitioned into the countries Y and Y1, how would you classify (or categorize) X? These problems turn up very often in
South Asia, especially for people who died before the 1947
partition. --
Ragib (
talk) 10:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
A rewrite of this policy, currently at Wikipedia:Protection policy/new, is proposed. As explained on the talk page, the intention is not to change any of the spirit of the policy, but only how it is presented. Comments and criticism are welcome. Happy‑ melon 11:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:IP block exemption ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has recently been edited to mark it as a policy. This is an automated notice of the change ( more information). -- VeblenBot ( talk) 18:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
So the problem here is that in the past, there have been pro wrestling articles that were nominated for FA, but they have passed because people said comments like "It looks good, it rocks, its good, support" but without a reason. But now, this is a problem. Feedback nominated New Year's Revolution (2007) for FA, but there were not enough responses, and it failed. About a week ago, I nominated No Way Out (2004) for FA, it failed because there were not enough responses and there were 2 opposes, 1 made no sense, and the other we fixed the problem pointed out but the person did not reply back. Also, List of WCW Hardcore Champions has been nominated for FL, but there have been no responses because people outside the project dont pay attention to pro wrestling articles. If no one outside the WP:PW, then the good articles written here will never have a chance to become Featured articles or Featured Lists, I proposed WT:PW that we should either set up a policy where WP:PW members can participate in FAC's and FLC's where they must give a reason for their support or disapproval, and/or with that policy, the project can set up a list of approved members who can participate in FAC's or FLCs. Suggestions?-- TrU Co -X 22:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
There is discussion ongoing at Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#nobots about whether or not bots should obey the {{ bots}} template (especially in regard to user talk pages). Please chime in there. — Locke Cole • t • c 03:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the Talk:Suicide page about the possibility of placing a banner at the top of the page with a short message and a link to suitable suicide support organisations. Full details of the motivation and the discussion that followed are on Talk:Suicide. There was some consensus that this is something that should be done, however, concerns have been raised that this would contravene WP:NOT and WP:5P which is the motivation for raising the topic here. I personally would like to see this happen. Internet related suicides are becoming more common and while wikipedia is clearly not among the motivating sites it's position at the top of a google search on "suicide" does give it the opportunity to guide people to the kind of advice and help that they might require. -- Jackocleebrown ( talk) 21:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
This discussion has been largely resolved on Talk:Suicide. Please use the Talk:Suicide page to add to the conversation so that we don't have two parallel topics on different pages. Thanks Jackocleebrown ( talk) 11:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia is now at least 5 years old. The encyclopedia has clearly achieved its objectives in becoming a functioning and high-quality wiki-encyclopedia. Early on, it probably needed to have "fun" things to "award" users to keep interest. However, now, Wikipedia should generate enough interest in and of itself. That is why the time has come to delete all the superfluous foolishness that has worn out its usefulness.
I propose eliminating "barnstars." Deleting them from our database. They just waste time, space, and give editors a false sense of accomplishment that impedes their future efforts. I am testing out reaction here first before presenting this as a formal proposal. Any feedback would be appreciated. Discharging P ( talk) 02:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
It causes editors to "rest on their laurels" so to speak. They won't be as eager to strive for better if they are rewarded for the mediocre. Discharging P ( talk) 03:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Just what do you mean by that sir? I am only trying to help. Discharging P ( talk) 04:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is serious business. ☯ Zenwhat ( talk) 19:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, original poster of this section has been blocked as a sock. This was possibly a bit of trolling. CredoFromStart talk 20:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Wiki is serious (although its not a business!) and as such people should be regonized for their acoplishments. Cheers! Skeletor 0 ( talk) 02:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm working over at WP:Admin coaching to overhaul the program and as part of it, decided to collect a list of places people who weren't ready to be admins could help out. Is it me or is there a lot of duplication (and I didn't include all the places I could've)?
So you feel that
admin coaching isn't right for you at this time. Maybe you feel that you need more experience. Maybe you are happy editing and don't want the responsibility of the extra
tools. Maybe you have some
skeletons in your closet and need time and experience to regain the
community's trust. These are some things you can do that will help you build experience regardless of your eventual goal.
|
MBisanz talk 06:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Apologies if this is a newbie mistake in raising this issue here:
A newbie edits a page. An experienced editor removes that edit. The newbie asks the experienced editor "why?", on the experienced editor's discussion page. No reply is forthcoming, for many weeks.
Newbie checks Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes but can find nothing about what to do if you just get no reply. Couldn't it say something about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craytina ( talk • contribs) 13:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
1. What content can be copied from the EOL into Wikipedia? Much of the content is Creative Commons (CC) licensed.
2. What content can be copied from Wikipedia into the EOL? As I understand it, all Wikipedia content is GFDL, but some is also multi-licensed with CC.
Also, I encourage you analyze the site (especially their exemplar pages), then fill out their survey and suggest collaboration with Wikipedia and Wikispecies. Here are links for their institutional partners and data partners. Also note previous discussion at the WikiEN-l Archives. - kslays ( talk, contribs) 19:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
We could also walk through wikipedia content and ask authors to dual license with CC. How's the FSF deal for GFDL/CC compatibility coming along? -- Kim Bruning ( talk) 00:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I have been contributing to WP for about two years. During that time, I have been openly and publicly personally attacked by another user. He is also stalking me, which is why I am posting this anonymously. Why has nothing ever been done about this? And what can be done about this now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.126.66.106 ( talk) 10:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello.
Would anyone mind giving some input over at naming conventions regarding English / foreign military operational names? Over at WP:Military history we've run into a snag that we were hoping could be resolved there, and any additional feedback is welcome. 20:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Due to some confusion and problems this practice has caused in the past, I've started a policy-in-progress regarding it. I'm not quite sure how it should work specifically, so everyone is welcome to chime in: Wikipedia:Discussion closing. Thanks. Equazcion •✗/ C • 06:51, 3 Mar 2008 (UTC)
Hi, there is currently a discussion going on at pt:Wikipedia:Ignore todas as regras about the Wikipedia:Ignore all rules policy. I've seen this rule in several languages, but I am a bit confused whether this is one of the pillars of Wikipedia or not, the French wikipedia for instance, says that it is an unchangeable rule, here it says that Jimbo Wales says it is and always has been, which is almost the same, but in other wikipedias like the Catalán one, it only says it is policy. Now, I am beeing accused by some over there of disturbing the peace for bringing that policy into the portuguese wikipedia, but that is the furthest from the truth. Can anyone recommend how I should proceed? Should I just drop this? GoEThe ( talk) 19:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
We are attempting to determine where consensus lies at the talk page for Ignore all rules.
Please give your opinion here: Wikipedia talk:Ignore all rules#Confirming existing consensus. (1 == 2)Until 17:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I have posted several suggestions for changes in the WMF privacy policy at the WMF site: [2]. The gist of the suggestions is to institute a requirement for notifying those registered users whose identifying info is being sought by subpoenas in third-party lawsuits. These suggestions are motivated in large part by a discussion that took place in January 2008 on this page, [3] in relation to an incident where identifying IP data of sixteen Wikipedia users was released in response to such a subpoena. I hope that those people who took part in the January discussion here, as well as other interested wikipedians, will participate in the discussion of these suggestions at the WMF website, [4]. Regards, Nsk92 ( talk) 18:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the standard is for leading articles on organizations with their own misson statement? In my opinion it is not appropriate because mission statements only serve to promote the organization, and encyclopedias are supposed to be nuetral. I do not recall ever seeing mission statements in other encyclopedias such as World Book and Britticana, However they are much more prevalent on Wikipedia. Please respond on my talk page. Thanks for the help! Richprentice ( talk) 05:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)Richprentice
A proposal has started to allow established or trusted editors to edit via Tor, or other anon proxy. This discussion is located at
The proposed policy in its “needs to be worked on” form is located at
Regards, M-ercury at 23:22, January 14, 2008
Some users have begun tagging RPG-related articles indiscriminately with the Notability-Books tag. Given that RPGs are indisputably popular, but that they appeal to a specific subculture and thus references to them do not frequently appear in more mainstream, widely acceptable articles, is there a way to create a more industry-specific notability guideline for these games and their spinoffs? Thanks. Snuppy 15:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
When someone is about to win an election or nomination, but has not do so officially, is it permissible to place such information in that person's article? For example, yesterday Senator John McCain clinched the Republican Party nomination for President (he now has a majority of the Republican delegates). Of course, he does not officially become the nominee until those delegates vote at the Republican National Convention (in September). It's possible he could die or decline the nomination. So far two editors have placed McCain's name in as the new nominee of the Republican party, because he has clinched the nomination. Two other editors have reverted those edits, because he is not officially the nominee until the Republican National Convention. Which two editors are correct? For the record, I am not a member of either pair of those editors and I am not attempting to cause a change of policy. I just want to know if there is such policy and, if so, what is that policy. -- SMP0328. ( talk) 21:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I am editing Liechtenstein and it says:
According to the CIA World Factbook, defense is the responsibility of Switzerland. However, this can be considered a myth since no official sources of either Switzerland or Liechtenstein supporting this claim are published. Specifically, no defense treaty is mentioned in the very detailed description of the bilateral relationships of the two countries provided on Liechtenstein's official website.
I argued that the second sentence was unverifiable and unsourced and should be removed because absence of evidence does not prove one fact or another, it simply proves that it is a subject that requires more research. In any case, I emailed the Embassies of Liechtenstein and Switzerland in Washington, D.C. and asked them if the CIA World Factbook was correct. I received a reply from both embassies that it was in fact incorrect and Switzerland was not responsible for the defense of Liechtenstein. I was wondering how I would go about citing the email and what policies would apply to research done in this manner. Is WP:OTRS set up to handle these sort of things or is there some other policy page I should go visit? Copysan ( talk) 23:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Deletion of a category following a consensus discussion at CFD or UCFD has traditionally meant that all pages must be removed from the category, and restoring the category to pages (even without creating the category page) is considered disruptive. That's recently apparently changed, and the people who are trying to change it are also trying to rewrite history to claim that was never the case. I'd like some clarification. — Random832 20:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm with BF here. Ill-advised, dead horse, etc, etc. Besides, where do you stop? If they can't put their userpage in a red-linked category, can they simply link to it? What about the text with no link? If it shouldn't exist in any form, do we remove references to the now-deleted category in discussions? I say let it go. The category is gone. -- Kbdank71 21:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm Eddie from BlankTV, www.BlankTV.com We're a fully licensed independent music video channel, a BMI/ASCAP/SESAC affiliate, with a library of almost 4,000 indie music videos. We used to use Google Video as a platform and have switched over to YouTube. I'm writing to check on your policay about posting links to a band's music videos on YouTube. Most of our bands do not actually have Wikipedia pages, but the bigger ones all seem to and we thought it would be a cool resource to be able to read the band's history and then click over and see/hear them play. I tried posting a link to a Pulley music video, but one of the bots rejected it. So I just wanted to see if it's something that we can do without violating the policies or spirit of the Wikipedia site. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlankTV ( talk • contribs) 01:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Every year Iowa State's campus radio station KURE holds a 26 hour trivia marathon Kaleidoquiz. For the last several years there have been reports of vandalism from some teams competing and the station wanted to give Wikipedia the heads up. It's highly likely that edits made between the hours of 5PM CST Friday the 7th of March (tomorrow) and 7PM CST Saturday from Iowa State IP addresses are likely students in residence halls attempting to sabotage other teams. If possible a temporary ban on edits from Iowa State for those hours might be a good idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.202.141.88 ( talk) 03:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I've proposed to significantly change the way speedy deletions for notability are handled. The discussion has been moved to Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Propose a modification to Deletion policy (specifically WP:CSD#A7) -- barneca ( talk) 21:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
If you haven't, please consider participating here and adding your view on whether the passing percentage for RfBs should be changed. I'll post this at WP:AN and AN/I, as well, and it has been raised at WP:VP before and is posted on TEMP:CENT. Avruch T 22:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Last call, last call for IP block exemption policy. We have been going once, going twice; on this page, and at Wikipedia_talk:IP_block_exemption#Who_is_strongly_opposed?
If you have any remaining issues with this policy, please say so *now*. I'm posting here to make sure that no one can later claim that "the community has not been heard, and there was no consensus on this". If anyone claims this after tomorrow, we'll all just point and laugh at you. ;-)
-- Kim Bruning ( talk) 20:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Obviously no one is going to show up 'till I post a policy tag. Will do so now. ;-) -- Kim Bruning ( talk) 22:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Now policy. Those who don't grasp/want wiki-way policy formation cannot claim that "people weren't heard", as they had their chance :-P. I totally expect a number of people who *are* familiar with the wiki-way to still have comments though (I've been around ;-) ). So I'll wait a day or two before going to devs. -- Kim Bruning ( talk) 18:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
(This was appended to the previous discussion; I added the header, based on the article name.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Horologium ( talk • contribs) 14:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC) I noticed looking at the "Danny Keough" article that it was incorrectly formatted. The article was in two columns and the end notes were in one column. That is the opposite of what should have been done. It would have been the right way if the notes were longer than the paragraphs, but such was not the case. The rule is that if you have more than 3 or 4 lines in a one column paragraph, it should be broken into two columns. The number depends on the width of the page. In the case of article with notes, since you don't want to make the formatting too complicated, the number of columns should be one or two in the article but always one in the notes, unless the notes are very long. 72.209.202.195 ( talk) 12:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
This is about people who held differing nationalities throughout their life. On the biographical article itself one can give all of this information. However in other pages, for example name disambiguation pages, this is not appropriate. However many such pages give the fist name, a nationality and a word or two on their significance.
In these cases which nationality should be chosen. Where is the correct place to find existing guidelines or otherwise address this concern? Thehalfone ( talk) 09:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Related question ... how would you classify people when the nation they were born and lived on got partitioned into two countries? For example, if person X was born in area Y of entity Z, but lived most of his productive life in area Y1 of Z, and later Z gets partitioned into the countries Y and Y1, how would you classify (or categorize) X? These problems turn up very often in
South Asia, especially for people who died before the 1947
partition. --
Ragib (
talk) 10:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
A rewrite of this policy, currently at Wikipedia:Protection policy/new, is proposed. As explained on the talk page, the intention is not to change any of the spirit of the policy, but only how it is presented. Comments and criticism are welcome. Happy‑ melon 11:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:IP block exemption ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has recently been edited to mark it as a policy. This is an automated notice of the change ( more information). -- VeblenBot ( talk) 18:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
So the problem here is that in the past, there have been pro wrestling articles that were nominated for FA, but they have passed because people said comments like "It looks good, it rocks, its good, support" but without a reason. But now, this is a problem. Feedback nominated New Year's Revolution (2007) for FA, but there were not enough responses, and it failed. About a week ago, I nominated No Way Out (2004) for FA, it failed because there were not enough responses and there were 2 opposes, 1 made no sense, and the other we fixed the problem pointed out but the person did not reply back. Also, List of WCW Hardcore Champions has been nominated for FL, but there have been no responses because people outside the project dont pay attention to pro wrestling articles. If no one outside the WP:PW, then the good articles written here will never have a chance to become Featured articles or Featured Lists, I proposed WT:PW that we should either set up a policy where WP:PW members can participate in FAC's and FLC's where they must give a reason for their support or disapproval, and/or with that policy, the project can set up a list of approved members who can participate in FAC's or FLCs. Suggestions?-- TrU Co -X 22:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
There is discussion ongoing at Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#nobots about whether or not bots should obey the {{ bots}} template (especially in regard to user talk pages). Please chime in there. — Locke Cole • t • c 03:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the Talk:Suicide page about the possibility of placing a banner at the top of the page with a short message and a link to suitable suicide support organisations. Full details of the motivation and the discussion that followed are on Talk:Suicide. There was some consensus that this is something that should be done, however, concerns have been raised that this would contravene WP:NOT and WP:5P which is the motivation for raising the topic here. I personally would like to see this happen. Internet related suicides are becoming more common and while wikipedia is clearly not among the motivating sites it's position at the top of a google search on "suicide" does give it the opportunity to guide people to the kind of advice and help that they might require. -- Jackocleebrown ( talk) 21:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
This discussion has been largely resolved on Talk:Suicide. Please use the Talk:Suicide page to add to the conversation so that we don't have two parallel topics on different pages. Thanks Jackocleebrown ( talk) 11:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)