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I think there should be two hatnotes below the existing ones. The first one should link to the Wikipedia article on suicide crisis lines, saying something like: If you are feeling suicidal, you deserve to feel better and can find worldwide crisis lines from people who will listen to you from this article: List of suicide crisis lines
And the second one should say: For a list of resources actively maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation, see Meta:Mental health resources.
They should be a couple spaces below the already existing ones so it'll catch the eye of suicidal people immediately
Stephanie921 (
talk) 10:13, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Killed myself and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 2#Killed myself until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Anarchyte ( talk) 10:21, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Is this some sort of compromise in response to the sporadic requests for a link to a crisis line? I can see no ambiguity within the context of search terms; no one's going to end up here expecting to end up at suicide prevention. An anonymous username, not my real name 18:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
The redirect Killed yourself has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 29 § Killed yourself until a consensus is reached. An anonymous username, not my real name 18:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
ADHD shouldn’t be listed here as a mental disorder. It’s not a mental health condition but is a neurodevelopmental condition or neurodivergence. 213.31.91.185 ( talk) 18:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Though it probably has been discussed before in connection with this article, because of the importance of this subject, I'd like to question this anyway: "Common methods of suicide include hanging, pesticide poisoning, and firearms." How can we define those methods as more common that the fact that many more people seem to end their lives in a longer more drawn-out way through continual substance abuse? In my opinion an autopsy that reveals organ failure or other health disasters due to such abuse should always be included in suicide statistics. Is that done? SergeWoodzing ( talk) 17:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Proposal:
Change "Common methods of suicide include hanging, pesticide poisoning, and firearms."
to
"Common methods of suicide include hanging, pesticide poisoning, firearms and substance abuse." -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 10:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
An intentional overdose is a suicide, death by long term effects isn't., and you respond by saying there is
no difference between "an intentional overdose" once or several times. So the implied logical connection is that you consider each use to be an (intentional) overdose.
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I think there should be two hatnotes below the existing ones. The first one should link to the Wikipedia article on suicide crisis lines, saying something like: If you are feeling suicidal, you deserve to feel better and can find worldwide crisis lines from people who will listen to you from this article: List of suicide crisis lines
And the second one should say: For a list of resources actively maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation, see Meta:Mental health resources.
They should be a couple spaces below the already existing ones so it'll catch the eye of suicidal people immediately
Stephanie921 (
talk) 10:13, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Killed myself and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 2#Killed myself until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Anarchyte ( talk) 10:21, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Is this some sort of compromise in response to the sporadic requests for a link to a crisis line? I can see no ambiguity within the context of search terms; no one's going to end up here expecting to end up at suicide prevention. An anonymous username, not my real name 18:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
The redirect Killed yourself has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 29 § Killed yourself until a consensus is reached. An anonymous username, not my real name 18:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
ADHD shouldn’t be listed here as a mental disorder. It’s not a mental health condition but is a neurodevelopmental condition or neurodivergence. 213.31.91.185 ( talk) 18:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Though it probably has been discussed before in connection with this article, because of the importance of this subject, I'd like to question this anyway: "Common methods of suicide include hanging, pesticide poisoning, and firearms." How can we define those methods as more common that the fact that many more people seem to end their lives in a longer more drawn-out way through continual substance abuse? In my opinion an autopsy that reveals organ failure or other health disasters due to such abuse should always be included in suicide statistics. Is that done? SergeWoodzing ( talk) 17:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Proposal:
Change "Common methods of suicide include hanging, pesticide poisoning, and firearms."
to
"Common methods of suicide include hanging, pesticide poisoning, firearms and substance abuse." -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 10:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
An intentional overdose is a suicide, death by long term effects isn't., and you respond by saying there is
no difference between "an intentional overdose" once or several times. So the implied logical connection is that you consider each use to be an (intentional) overdose.