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The result was move to draft. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:29, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable football player. I was unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources. ULPS ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least one cap for the Guyana women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:57, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least one cap for the Guyana women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:NENT and WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:56, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
The article notes: "他是刘德华、郭富城、谭咏麟、李克勤、古巨基、陈慧琳的老师——黄国荣(Sunny Wong),香港最顶尖的舞蹈编排总监,纵横香港舞蹈界达二十余年,全香港每年的大型演唱会当中,近九成是出自他的手笔,连王菲、梁朝伟、梅艳芳也曾经跳过他编排的舞蹈。日前,来广州担任美在花城评委及决赛排舞老师的黄国荣接受信息时报专访,爆出不少明星练舞的秘闻,面对天王天后难伺候的小怪癖,黄国荣还自行研发一套训练招术。"
From Google Translate: "He is the teacher of Andy Lau, Aaron Kwok, Alan Tam, Hacken Lee, Leo Ku and Kelly Chen—Sunny Wong, Hong Kong's top choreography director, has been in the Hong Kong dance industry for more than 20 years, and among the large-scale concerts in Hong Kong every year, Nearly 90% of them are written by him, and even Faye Wong, Tony Leung, and Anita Mui have danced the dances he choreographed. A few days ago, Sunny Wong, who came to Guangzhou to serve as the judge of Beauty in Flower City and the dance teacher of the finals, accepted an exclusive interview with the Information Times, revealing the secrets of many celebrities practicing dance. Facing the little eccentricity of the king and queen, Sunny Wong also developed a set of training techniques by himself ."
The article notes: "A household name in Hong Kong’s dance industry, Sunny Wong’s work as a choreographer, dance teacher, and performer has been featured in numerous music concerts, music videos, and commercials. Though the spotlight is usually on the lead singers he works with, such as Aaron Kwok and Sammi Cheng, ... And for him, this passion started at the age of 5 where he was inspired by dance movies such as Grease. His real start in dance began in 1984 when TVB was hiring dancers, and sure enough Sunny was accepted! His contract began with intense training in a number of styles such as Jazz, K Pop, Latin Dance, Chinese Dance, and Tap Dance. Sunny performed on hit television shows like Enjoy Yourself Tonight, and was invited to dance as a backup dancer and eventually choreograph for these televised jobs."
The article notes: "Sunny Wong Kwok-wing is a dancer, choreographer, model and actor. He has been choreographing dances for Canto-pop star Aaron Kwok Fu-shing for 10 years, and now teaches dance at Kwok's Studio Workshop and Cafe in Causeway Bay, in which he has shares. Recently he has been directing the dance scenes for Pala Pala Sakura, a movie starring Kwok and Cecilia Cheung Pak-chi being filmed in Shanghai."
The article notes: "星級排舞師Sunny Wong昨日與拍拖兩年的模特兒女友洪華結婚,新郎豪擲逾百萬港元,在君悅酒店筵開40席打造豪華婚禮。出席賓客星光熠熠包括郭富城、陳慧琳、任達華夫婦、陳嘉容、側田、歐陽妙芝及周倩圯等。"
From Google Translate: "Star choreographer Sunny Wong married his model girlfriend Hung Wah, whom he has been dating for two years, yesterday. The groom spent more than one million Hong Kong dollars in a luxurious wedding with 40 seats at the Grand Hyatt Hotel. The star-studded guests included Aaron Kwok, Kelly Chen, Mr. and Mrs. Yam Tat-wah, Karen Chan, Chia Tin, Ouyang Miaozhi and Zhou Qianyi, etc."
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
WP:BLP of a business executive, not
properly sourced as passing notability criteria for businesspeople.
As always, people in business are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia just because they exist, and must be demonstrated as passing
WP:GNG on the depth and quality of their sourceability, but 17 of the 19 footnotes here are not support for notability at all: seven are his own "staff" profiles on the
self-published websites of organizations he's directly affiliated with, seven are Q&A interviews in which he's talking about himself in the first person, and three are glancing namechecks of his existence as a provider of soundbite in an article about something else. That leaves just two footnotes that actually represent reliable source coverage about him, which isn't enough.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have considerably more third-party coverage in real media and books than this.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Clear case of WP:BLP1E. Best, Reading Beans ( talk) 22:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Splatoon. Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Article's reception were filled with trivia articles, like listicles and Smash commentary (Best character to use). Most of the reception section content could be potentially be merged at the series article. GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 21:30, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 03:18, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:58, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:35, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Nearly unsourced WP:MADEUP fancruft topic. I found one source that actually verbatim uses this term, but that does not an article make. Dronebogus ( talk) 08:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
Each new prime minister got his or her parody—in Thatcher’s case the cleverness being a parody of her husband—and within weeks the image and idiom would have stuck.is a very strong signal of notability of the topic itself. — siro χ o 00:18, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Clearly a consensus to Keep but since this is such a poorly sourced article, I'd like to see a review of the sources found by Siroxo to see if they can help establish notability. Editors saying that something is important and significant isn't valued as much as these comments reported by independent reliable sources. What seems obvious to you has to be support by secondary sources so if you are arguing to Keep this article, these have to be located, at least before I will close this discussion.
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable newspaper fails to meet WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 12:40, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Struck or not, Liz's relist comment sums up the situation: A lot of very new accounts making relatively poor arguments in favor of keeping, while established editors and those making higher quality arguments were much more on the delete side. As AfD is not a nose count, this tilts it into "Delete". Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:43, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
WP:SPA creation, no indication of notability per WP:NCORP. Ko Eilders ( talk) 15:44, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Comment: There appear to be outside sources discussing the company here, and I found some puff interviews, but I'm not finding anything definitive saying this one reaches the notability guidelines: [ [18]][ [19]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Let'srun ( talk • contribs) 18:41, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Delete does not meet WP:GNG." Justwatchmee ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:14, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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Source assessment table: prepared by
User:Akikormin125
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https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/startup-of-the-week-cad-crowd | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.newspapers.com/article/edmonton-journal/129375675/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=ifqaDwAAQBAJ&q=%22CadCrowd%22 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=Zr1dEAAAQBAJ&q=%22Cad+Crowd%22+-wikipedia | ![]() |
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~ Repeatedly mentioned on P.’s 268, 270, 272 | ~ Partial |
https://web.archive.org/web/20200415004410/https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/01/technology/01reuters-health-coronavirus-invention-insight.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.re-thinkingthefuture.com/product-design/a2766-cad-crowd-10-iconic-products/ | ![]() |
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~ The entire article is about the company and the history of what has been showcased there. | ~ Partial |
https://www.engineering.com/story/the-best-crowdsourced-designs-to-fight-covid-19 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.newspapers.com/article/calgary-herald/129375502/ | ![]() |
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~ This article is more of a mention than in-depth. | ~ Partial |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |
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Relisting comment: Right now we have a divide between experienced editors weighing in for Deletion and newer accounts advocating Keeping the article. This should be the end of it but I'm relisting this discussion to see if there is any further support for Draftifying this article and asking for it to go through the AFC process.
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These criteria, generally, follow the general notability guideline with a stronger emphasis on quality of the sources to prevent gaming of the rules by marketing and public relations professionals.If you read the NCORP guidelines, the references aren't enough, as I've discussed, and those !voting have not addressed those concerns. And the NY Times article - just because the founder of a company gets a sentence in a paper does not mean a company is notable... there may be better sources out there that would lend this to being kept, but I don't see them here. Also just because other similar companies have a page does not mean this one is eligible due to WP:OSE. SportingFlyer T· C 21:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 05:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Stub article about a newspaper column. No notable independent coverage in secondary sources. Popcornfud ( talk) 16:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010 with no sources. Fails WP:NTEAM and WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus or more precisely there is a consensus not to delete, but no consensus as between keep/merge. That discussion can be continued on the article talk page if anyone wishes. Stifle ( talk) 08:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Poor references on the page, but I think the main problem is that this has been written as a travel guide and WP:NOTGUIDE. At best this needs WP:TNT until someone can write it in a less gushy way. JMWt ( talk) 17:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. A rough balance of views on each side, and neither is so lacking in policy based arguments that I should assign a different weighting. Stifle ( talk) 08:20, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. A search for sources only turned up primary sources or unreliable sources such as databases etc. Lavalizard101 ( talk) 18:10, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
The learning process can be long and laboriousmake clear that it's not a puff piece. The Lancaster Intelligencer piece includes interviews with the director of Columbia's School of Horology (which appears to be an unaffiliated institution) and the director/curator of the National Watch Museum. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 20:54, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America 1000 04:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Delete for lack of notability. The family does verify, but there is no significant coverage in reliable sources. It fails basic notabilty guidelines. All coverage seems to be incidental, except for the (self published) book that Peter Tucker wrote for friends and family. The 129 page book by Peter L. Tucker, The Tuckers of Sierra Leone, 1665-1914, was published about 1997, but there is no publisher or place of publication data for it, see OCLC 43918024. It looks like a vanity press publication, no copies were available to me on interlibrary loan. The reference section of the article looks as though the editor/author mostly took the list of book citations from a Google book search of "Tucker + Sherbro" and "Caulkers + Sherbro" and dumped it in the reference section. The specific entries add very little, for example, the entry http://books.google.com/books?id=zmgYSuOAkS8C&pg=PA57&lpg=PA57&dq=sherbro+caulkers&source=web&ots=GZBht_Ev8Y&sig=jrOlgtRVvS8nSk_DqQU8c7MynI8 has no mention of the Tuckers, but has language about the Caulkers that is used by the author/editor to describe the Tuckers in the article. The entry http://books.google.com/books?id=npUMAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA76&dq=sherbro+tuckers#PPA76,M1 has only this to say about the Tuckers: This is also true of the Tuckers and many others on the west coast of Africa. namely that they had English blood on their paternal side. Or this one http://books.google.com/books?id=QN62ci99H7oC&pg=PA293&lpg=PA293&dq=sherbro+tuckers&source=web&ots=OGbmgW5H6K&sig=o0Hqg0eXHI6HQ5RL-cyliu1HHhI#PPA293,M1 which only says: They, like the Tuckers and the Clevelands, were descendants of European slave dealers, and their pursuits were the same. Some don't discuss the family, but just a specific Tucker, such as http://books.google.com/books?id=C4GuwL1cgnEC&pg=PA36&dq=Sherbro+Cleveland&sig=rsRwn1MsjXJAHkXDy8x7J-J5tDg which talks about Henry Tucker, the notorious slave trader. Based upon extensive searching and review of the available sources, I am convinced that the family is not notable as a group, although the larger Sherbro group and their activities are. They have their own article. Some individual Tuckers have their own articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bejnar ( talk • contribs)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the page's undeletion. ✗ plicit 23:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
wp:d2D unnecessary disambiguation — Karnataka talk 20:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy keep. Nominator blocked as a sock, otherwise unanimous keep. (No prejudice to renomination by another user in good standing) Legoktm ( talk) 08:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Lacks sigcov in reliable independent sources. IAmHuitzilopochtli ( talk) 19:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Assistant professor, appears to fail the general notability guideline and the SNG for academics. Justarandomamerican ( talk) Have a good day! 16:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
"For scholars in humanities the existing citation indices and Google Scholar often provide inadequate and incomplete information. (Google Scholar is not totally irrelevant in many cases, for it now does include citations to books—it's worth a look). In these fields one can also look at how widely the person's books are held in various academic libraries (this information is available in Worldcat) when evaluating whether Criterion 1 is satisfied."
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The result was redirect to Terror of Mechagodzilla. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 18:45, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
A Godzilla Kaiju who only has one major film to its name. It has a few small appearances afterwards, but that's about it. A search for sources yields practically nothing, and the article is already all plot. Given its major role in Terror of Mechagodzilla, a redirect there would likely work best as an AtD. Pokelego999 ( talk) 18:41, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. North America 1000 04:24, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
We have listings of "new artists" such as this article in The Punch where our subject is presented together with other new acts as a matter of routine for music pages or simple, yet embellished, announcements about new material, such as this one in TooXclusive, this in the Nigerian Tribune, or this in NotJustTok, a website that explicitly offers advertorials at a price. Then, we get reports about upcoming award events, in which the artist is mentioned once, as a candidate, e.g. here, here, etc; or announcements about upcoming tours, such as this. Practically all sources offer promotional copy instead of reviews, e.g. "The video is a reflection of the singer’s talent, as it is colourful and creative [and] will definitely garner the single more reviews"; some go as far, or as low, as reporting that the artist "has released new publicity photos" ( see here).
He's a young artist who has released one unremarkable single, marketing wise. There are millions, literally, like Ajura. At our most generous, we can wish for something better in the future. - The Gnome ( talk) 17:12, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
2023-08 Restlezz (musician) (closed as ✗ delete)
2023-05 move to →
Ajura (singer)
The result was Speedy delete both pages as copyvios. Stifle ( talk) 08:30, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
While the sugar industry of Saint Mary may well be a notable subject, this page is a very sprawling, exhaustive bit-by-bit history of some estates, and learns us very little about the actual sugar industry. WP:TNT seems better than trying to remove 90% and rewriting the remainder into a coherent, clear article. I don't think we need things like "1945: The Syndicate Estates decided to let Arthur Hallpike rent a coconut grove on the property in order to promote the growth of coconuts for pig feed.", or the series of irrelevant non-sequiturs "2004: "Our "National Fruit," the Antigua Black Pineapple, is depicted on our coat of arms. It has dark yellow meat that is very sweet and flavorful. The area known as the "Pineapple Belt" runs from Redhill to Bethesda and has volcanic soil all the way to Cades Bay. Pineapples are cultivated from suckers, which mature in 15 to 18 months and continue to bear fruit for around three years. Ten acres are currently farmed at the Government Station.[4] 2005: At Urlings, there is a lovely old manse that is still abandoned and deteriorating. In the past five years, the bell in the picture has been taken (plunderer). The Museum has access to Rev. Reid's family's diaries, which describe his time serving St. Mary's Parish in the Old Road neighborhood in 1859. Antigua's tallest peak, Bogey Peak, which was renamed Mt. Obama shortly after President Obama of the United States was elected, is 1319 feet high." Every entry has such things paraphrased from the source without much care, like "1778 — died in London. Robert Christian's son died in Antigua in 1776. It is thought that he arrived in London from Antigua in the year 1777, and by the year 1778, he was residing in Southampton-street, Strand, in the city of Westminster, where he died. His sister Margaret was married to William Gunthorpe of Antigua, and he had a brother named John who died there long before 1777." Fram ( talk) 17:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
@ CROIX, JMWt, and Mccapra: I have added the very similar Sugar industry of Saint George to this nomination, as it has the exact same issues. Fram ( talk) 07:59, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. WP:SNOW, clear consensus to delete except among all the now-blocked socks, including the creator of the article. Bbb23 ( talk) 22:45, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Subject does not meet criteria of WP:GNG, or WP:NBIO. He is an executive at an airline (regional director), but not the president/CEO nor vice-president. Article is written in a highly promotional tone and relies on unreliable sources such as press releases and this, which is basically written by the subject or his team rather than a professional journalist. Attempts to remove promotional content were reverted by the article's author. ... discospinster talk 16:58, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
This needs to be deleted and rewritten in a completely different tone so that the common people who are not experts in business and aviation can understand it. HarukaAmaranth ( 話) 18:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The article needs to be deleted and rewritten. My Dad was a regional director for Qatar airways. I can tell that it is a powerful position. Thinking a regional director cannot achieve all these is in my view wrong. However, the article needs to be deleted and rewritten to erase alot of unnecessary adulations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmirex ( talk • contribs) 19:52, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Again, I have asked if anyone has found any statement there that is not true ? If no one can dispute any claims in this article, I think it will be unfair to delete it. The University of Mississippi, the Canadian Chambers of Commerce and the offices of notable individuals mentioned in the article can all be contacted to verify the veracity of these claims. If they are true, why can't the truth stand ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caleb Onyeabor ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
DRATIFY: Move to the draft space. It is only fair to move to the draft space perhaps that will provide an opportunity for other editors to verify the claims. I really did a lot of research for this. It is sad it is turning out this way. I will be fine.
Bbb23, I see you removed Trainsandotherthings's G11 tag on the article because it's at AFD, but including his comment we have seven votes for a speedy deletion so perhaps you could WP:SNOW close. The above is approaching WP:CIR and even WP:NOTHERE in thinking this is a racial bias issue or even grammar. Reywas92 Talk 19:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy keep. Nominator has indicated preference to keep with no outstanding !votes for any other outcome. (non-admin closure) Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Could not find any more significant coverage other than this, and we cannot base her notability on a single source, failing WP:GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 16:09, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 23:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
No independent significant coverage, failing WP:GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 16:06, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 16:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 23:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Failure of WP:GNG. Some coverage here and here, but not enough significant coverage, and it was WP:ROUTINE declaring that she had been drafted as well. Every college player is not notable because they have some local news about them, and this is a case of that. Nothing to be found about her professional career. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 15:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 23:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Failure of WP:GNG. Some coverage found here, but not enough to justify GNG being passed. A little bit here, but not SIGCOV. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 15:36, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to DAM (band). Duplicated topic. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 ( t • c) 10:56, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Notability (lack of reliable sources), Original research and Neutralily (the use of phrases like "important voice for the Palestinian resistance movement" and descriptions of Israeli censorship). LusikSnusik ( talk) 15:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Kope Formation. North America 1000 12:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Likely permastub of doubtful notability, also currently an orphan. This article was created back in 2012, when at the time the subject was getting attention in the press for being a "mystery fossil that stumps scientists". After that, however, almost nothing new has been written about it since, except a 2016 study by the fossil's discoverer and other scientists discussing its possible true identity. Alternatively to deletion, this article could be merged into Kope Formation instead, since the fossil was discovered from that formation in the first place. Monster Iestyn ( talk) 12:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:47, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable former gymnast. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NGYMNAST. Let'srun ( talk) 16:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America 1000 12:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Tagged as a concern regarding WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC and I can't see any significant coverage cited in any Wikipedia language. My own Austrian search yields only user-generated content and database sources, which are clearly not acceptable per SPORTBASIC. I found Sky Sports, which mentions him once, Lokal Sport, which is just standard match report coverage, and Fan Report, which mentions him only twice. Soccerway suggests that he's been playing at a low level for the last few years, which explains why coverage is hard to find. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:44, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) – 2. O. Boxing 11:47, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Fails GNG. BEFORE search only provided three sources that could be argued as SIGCOV (all written after his death); this is written by the article creator, so doesn't do much to establish notability; this is the strongest, but doesn't really offer much to base an article on (he was well respected, he trained X, people liked him, etc.); this is just a reword of the i.stuff article. All other sources I found were the same kind of passing mentions as what's currently used in the article. – 2. O. Boxing 11:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was no consensus. After all but a month on AFD it's clear there consensus against deleting the page, albeit no consensus as to what precisely to do. I'm not spinning the wheel again. Parties can discuss on the article talk page whether a merge, redirect, or otherwise is appropriate. Stifle ( talk) 08:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
No indication this article meets WP:ANYBIO. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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Redirect to Roosevelt family. None of the sources have any in depth coverage that I can see. The NYT death announcement is a mere notice not an obituary; and his mentions in the family history pieces by Life and the Chicago Tribune are just a couple of sentences. Eluchil404 ( talk) 04:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. After a full month on AFD I'm not seeing a consensus here or any realistic prospect of one emerging. Stifle ( talk) 08:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails to meet WP:GNG. DatGuy Talk Contribs 22:17, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
StereoFolic ( talk) 03:22, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Mako is well respected within the Python web community.) also contribute toward notability in that they support mako's place within the Python community, are generally reliable for programming topics, and are more than a trivial mention. I think that Python Interviews, although not contributing to notability very much since it's an interview, would give some more factual details to add to the article as well. I'm also happy I learned doing research for this that mako is/was fairly commonly used as a tool for help generate 3d model and other description files (see Google Scholar results.) Skynxnex ( talk) 23:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Since this is already covered in the school article this fall's to delete. Spartaz Humbug! 11:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Do we really need an article for every somewhat salacious/scandalous incident which gets some media attention for a few days? WP:NOTNEWS/ WP:CRIME intersection. Fram ( talk) 08:54, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The subject has earned at least one cap for the Zimbabwe women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:37, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
A very arbitrary list that does not appear to meet WP:NLIST - no source is shown that shows that such a listing exists outside Wikipedia and my BEFORE yielded only forks and mirrors of this article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists. This is a complex list: awards limited to those named after governors general. So, in my assessment, first we see the govorners general are each notable, many of the awards are individually notable. As such, this is not indiscriminate. Non-notable or redlinked awards can reasonably be included for completeness of the list. This also fulfills WP:LISTPURP both informational (as it differentiates different types of awards and their individual fields), and navigational as a well-defined index of such awards. — siro χ o 06:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. WP:SNOW keep and withdrawn by nominator. Everyone agrees that the article should be kept, with me being the sole dissenting opinion, however I see no reason to prolong things when it is clear how it will end. (non-admin closure) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 06:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
The list is kind of cool, but nothing in it, nor in my BEFORE, suggests it meets WP:NLIST. Sadly, this seems more like WP:NOTTVTROPES content than encyclopedic. But perhaps someone can save this and find sources to add to the lead that show such a list exists outside Wikipedia? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:56, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Unreferenced and subject simply does not pass WP:BIO. Looked up "Martin Furer" and "Martin Furer + computer scientist" and found 2 or 3 sources stating that "a pair of Australian mathematicians...", otherwise he's just an educator. I considered moving to draftspace, however I think it's futile if there are no reliable sources to help improve the page. shelovesneo ( talk) 04:32, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to Prince Luís of Orléans-Braganza (1878–1920)#Children. Liz Read! Talk! 03:50, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Biography article about a Brazilian person who was a descendant of the then/now-extinct Brazilian royal family. The interwikis seem to have been built on cross-wiki spam. I bring it for community evaluation. Sturm ( talk) 03:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 02:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Obscure photographer. I haven't been able to find a single secondary source, in English or Serbian, which discusses the subject, so it fails the WP:BASIC criteria guidelines as well as WP:PHOTOGRAPHER. The article content which is unsourced is taken largely from his own website. Griboski ( talk) 02:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 02:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't seem to pass notability under either WP:NPROF or WP:NBASIC. Seems to just run her own practice and do self-promotional things. Mason ( talk) 02:17, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Subject does not meet the WP:GNG as a former beauty pageant contestant. Is a case of WP:BLP1E. Let'srun ( talk) 00:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was Speedily deleted ( non-admin closure). NotAGenious ( talk) 16:45, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
This page is a blatantly and explicitly promotional article dedicated to a French-Swiss entrepreneur. It fails WP:GNG with some clear WP:COI concerns. It was created by a WP:SPA in 2018. GuardianH ( talk) 02:15, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. The consensus is to Delete this article. Liz Read! Talk! 02:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable small press spinoff for a minor book character from 30 years ago. Few citations, all from press releases, Twitter and Facebook, and much discussion of things which may or may not happen in future
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku ( talk) 02:33, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 02:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG and WP:TOOSOON, there are some insufficient sources according to WP:NACTOR guidelines. MirrorPlanet ( talk) 01:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The person has had significant roles in multiple notable filmsas verifiable via footnotes in the article. — siro χ o 06:07, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Fails
WP:GNG’s
WP:SIGCOV. Article was
previously PRODed for this reason, which
was challenged with two reasons. First reason was “not all surprising there are so few sources given it was in Algeria
” and second reason was “22+ deaths does mean notable
”. At the time of this AfD, there is 3 trivial government sources (2 lack much info and are basic information providers, similar to that of primary sources, and 1 is dead) and 2 academic sources. I consider this article to only have 2
reliable, secondary sources, i.e. the 2 academic sources, which technically aren’t actually used as references for the article, as they are used in a Further reading section, and not actual references. Per the
general notability guidelines, I do not see any significant coverage of the topic, which seems to actually be confirmed in the PROD challenge. The number of deaths also
does not establish/guarantee notability, especially given the lack of
reliable secondary sources used, or well not used. The
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Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. I've reviewed the two papers listed in further reading and they both provide in depth SIGCOV of the subject, the papers are entirely about this earthquake. The papers were published in 2004 and 2009, this 1999 event demonstrates WP:PERSISTENCE — siro χ o 05:49, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Editors evaluating notability should consider not only any sources currently named in an article, but also the possibility or existence of notability-indicating sources that are not currently named in the article.Based on the article creator’s comment, and ignoring the basically primary sources (government ones), the article only has those two academic papers to show notability. If this was something from 80+ years ago, I would say that would be fine, since science wasn’t nearly close to modern times back then. But this is an earthquake from 1999, where new 2023 college graduates were alive at the time. Do you think those two academic papers (and solely those 2 papers, given the creator’s own comments) can truly show the SIGCOV nature of a modern-day earthquake? I’m perfectly fine if your answer is yes, I just wanted to sort of ask/double check, given I think you were unaware of the creator’s comment about really only using those 2 academic papers as sources for the article. The Weather Event Writer ( Talk Page) 06:44, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. Wikipedia's concept of notability applies this basic standard to avoid indiscriminate inclusion of topics.I.e. if we can find the sources, it's not an indiscriminate inclusion. If it's not indiscriminate, I feel very comfortable also considering WP:NOTPAPER.
The result was redirect to List of Nicaragua women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 01:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Nicaragua women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least three caps for the Nicaragua women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 00:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was move to draft. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:29, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable football player. I was unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources. ULPS ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least one cap for the Guyana women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:57, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Guyana women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least one cap for the Guyana women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:NENT and WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:56, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
The article notes: "他是刘德华、郭富城、谭咏麟、李克勤、古巨基、陈慧琳的老师——黄国荣(Sunny Wong),香港最顶尖的舞蹈编排总监,纵横香港舞蹈界达二十余年,全香港每年的大型演唱会当中,近九成是出自他的手笔,连王菲、梁朝伟、梅艳芳也曾经跳过他编排的舞蹈。日前,来广州担任美在花城评委及决赛排舞老师的黄国荣接受信息时报专访,爆出不少明星练舞的秘闻,面对天王天后难伺候的小怪癖,黄国荣还自行研发一套训练招术。"
From Google Translate: "He is the teacher of Andy Lau, Aaron Kwok, Alan Tam, Hacken Lee, Leo Ku and Kelly Chen—Sunny Wong, Hong Kong's top choreography director, has been in the Hong Kong dance industry for more than 20 years, and among the large-scale concerts in Hong Kong every year, Nearly 90% of them are written by him, and even Faye Wong, Tony Leung, and Anita Mui have danced the dances he choreographed. A few days ago, Sunny Wong, who came to Guangzhou to serve as the judge of Beauty in Flower City and the dance teacher of the finals, accepted an exclusive interview with the Information Times, revealing the secrets of many celebrities practicing dance. Facing the little eccentricity of the king and queen, Sunny Wong also developed a set of training techniques by himself ."
The article notes: "A household name in Hong Kong’s dance industry, Sunny Wong’s work as a choreographer, dance teacher, and performer has been featured in numerous music concerts, music videos, and commercials. Though the spotlight is usually on the lead singers he works with, such as Aaron Kwok and Sammi Cheng, ... And for him, this passion started at the age of 5 where he was inspired by dance movies such as Grease. His real start in dance began in 1984 when TVB was hiring dancers, and sure enough Sunny was accepted! His contract began with intense training in a number of styles such as Jazz, K Pop, Latin Dance, Chinese Dance, and Tap Dance. Sunny performed on hit television shows like Enjoy Yourself Tonight, and was invited to dance as a backup dancer and eventually choreograph for these televised jobs."
The article notes: "Sunny Wong Kwok-wing is a dancer, choreographer, model and actor. He has been choreographing dances for Canto-pop star Aaron Kwok Fu-shing for 10 years, and now teaches dance at Kwok's Studio Workshop and Cafe in Causeway Bay, in which he has shares. Recently he has been directing the dance scenes for Pala Pala Sakura, a movie starring Kwok and Cecilia Cheung Pak-chi being filmed in Shanghai."
The article notes: "星級排舞師Sunny Wong昨日與拍拖兩年的模特兒女友洪華結婚,新郎豪擲逾百萬港元,在君悅酒店筵開40席打造豪華婚禮。出席賓客星光熠熠包括郭富城、陳慧琳、任達華夫婦、陳嘉容、側田、歐陽妙芝及周倩圯等。"
From Google Translate: "Star choreographer Sunny Wong married his model girlfriend Hung Wah, whom he has been dating for two years, yesterday. The groom spent more than one million Hong Kong dollars in a luxurious wedding with 40 seats at the Grand Hyatt Hotel. The star-studded guests included Aaron Kwok, Kelly Chen, Mr. and Mrs. Yam Tat-wah, Karen Chan, Chia Tin, Ouyang Miaozhi and Zhou Qianyi, etc."
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
WP:BLP of a business executive, not
properly sourced as passing notability criteria for businesspeople.
As always, people in business are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia just because they exist, and must be demonstrated as passing
WP:GNG on the depth and quality of their sourceability, but 17 of the 19 footnotes here are not support for notability at all: seven are his own "staff" profiles on the
self-published websites of organizations he's directly affiliated with, seven are Q&A interviews in which he's talking about himself in the first person, and three are glancing namechecks of his existence as a provider of soundbite in an article about something else. That leaves just two footnotes that actually represent reliable source coverage about him, which isn't enough.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have considerably more third-party coverage in real media and books than this.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Clear case of WP:BLP1E. Best, Reading Beans ( talk) 22:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Splatoon. Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Article's reception were filled with trivia articles, like listicles and Smash commentary (Best character to use). Most of the reception section content could be potentially be merged at the series article. GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 21:30, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 03:18, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:58, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:35, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Nearly unsourced WP:MADEUP fancruft topic. I found one source that actually verbatim uses this term, but that does not an article make. Dronebogus ( talk) 08:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
Each new prime minister got his or her parody—in Thatcher’s case the cleverness being a parody of her husband—and within weeks the image and idiom would have stuck.is a very strong signal of notability of the topic itself. — siro χ o 00:18, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Clearly a consensus to Keep but since this is such a poorly sourced article, I'd like to see a review of the sources found by Siroxo to see if they can help establish notability. Editors saying that something is important and significant isn't valued as much as these comments reported by independent reliable sources. What seems obvious to you has to be support by secondary sources so if you are arguing to Keep this article, these have to be located, at least before I will close this discussion.
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The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable newspaper fails to meet WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 12:40, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Struck or not, Liz's relist comment sums up the situation: A lot of very new accounts making relatively poor arguments in favor of keeping, while established editors and those making higher quality arguments were much more on the delete side. As AfD is not a nose count, this tilts it into "Delete". Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:43, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
WP:SPA creation, no indication of notability per WP:NCORP. Ko Eilders ( talk) 15:44, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Comment: There appear to be outside sources discussing the company here, and I found some puff interviews, but I'm not finding anything definitive saying this one reaches the notability guidelines: [ [18]][ [19]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Let'srun ( talk • contribs) 18:41, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Delete does not meet WP:GNG." Justwatchmee ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:14, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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Source assessment table: prepared by
User:Akikormin125
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https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/startup-of-the-week-cad-crowd | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.newspapers.com/article/edmonton-journal/129375675/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=ifqaDwAAQBAJ&q=%22CadCrowd%22 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=Zr1dEAAAQBAJ&q=%22Cad+Crowd%22+-wikipedia | ![]() |
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~ Repeatedly mentioned on P.’s 268, 270, 272 | ~ Partial |
https://web.archive.org/web/20200415004410/https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/01/technology/01reuters-health-coronavirus-invention-insight.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.re-thinkingthefuture.com/product-design/a2766-cad-crowd-10-iconic-products/ | ![]() |
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~ The entire article is about the company and the history of what has been showcased there. | ~ Partial |
https://www.engineering.com/story/the-best-crowdsourced-designs-to-fight-covid-19 | ![]() |
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Akikormin125 ( talk) 22:43, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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These criteria, generally, follow the general notability guideline with a stronger emphasis on quality of the sources to prevent gaming of the rules by marketing and public relations professionals.If you read the NCORP guidelines, the references aren't enough, as I've discussed, and those !voting have not addressed those concerns. And the NY Times article - just because the founder of a company gets a sentence in a paper does not mean a company is notable... there may be better sources out there that would lend this to being kept, but I don't see them here. Also just because other similar companies have a page does not mean this one is eligible due to WP:OSE. SportingFlyer T· C 21:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 05:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Stub article about a newspaper column. No notable independent coverage in secondary sources. Popcornfud ( talk) 16:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010 with no sources. Fails WP:NTEAM and WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus or more precisely there is a consensus not to delete, but no consensus as between keep/merge. That discussion can be continued on the article talk page if anyone wishes. Stifle ( talk) 08:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Poor references on the page, but I think the main problem is that this has been written as a travel guide and WP:NOTGUIDE. At best this needs WP:TNT until someone can write it in a less gushy way. JMWt ( talk) 17:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. A rough balance of views on each side, and neither is so lacking in policy based arguments that I should assign a different weighting. Stifle ( talk) 08:20, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. A search for sources only turned up primary sources or unreliable sources such as databases etc. Lavalizard101 ( talk) 18:10, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
The learning process can be long and laboriousmake clear that it's not a puff piece. The Lancaster Intelligencer piece includes interviews with the director of Columbia's School of Horology (which appears to be an unaffiliated institution) and the director/curator of the National Watch Museum. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 20:54, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America 1000 04:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Delete for lack of notability. The family does verify, but there is no significant coverage in reliable sources. It fails basic notabilty guidelines. All coverage seems to be incidental, except for the (self published) book that Peter Tucker wrote for friends and family. The 129 page book by Peter L. Tucker, The Tuckers of Sierra Leone, 1665-1914, was published about 1997, but there is no publisher or place of publication data for it, see OCLC 43918024. It looks like a vanity press publication, no copies were available to me on interlibrary loan. The reference section of the article looks as though the editor/author mostly took the list of book citations from a Google book search of "Tucker + Sherbro" and "Caulkers + Sherbro" and dumped it in the reference section. The specific entries add very little, for example, the entry http://books.google.com/books?id=zmgYSuOAkS8C&pg=PA57&lpg=PA57&dq=sherbro+caulkers&source=web&ots=GZBht_Ev8Y&sig=jrOlgtRVvS8nSk_DqQU8c7MynI8 has no mention of the Tuckers, but has language about the Caulkers that is used by the author/editor to describe the Tuckers in the article. The entry http://books.google.com/books?id=npUMAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA76&dq=sherbro+tuckers#PPA76,M1 has only this to say about the Tuckers: This is also true of the Tuckers and many others on the west coast of Africa. namely that they had English blood on their paternal side. Or this one http://books.google.com/books?id=QN62ci99H7oC&pg=PA293&lpg=PA293&dq=sherbro+tuckers&source=web&ots=OGbmgW5H6K&sig=o0Hqg0eXHI6HQ5RL-cyliu1HHhI#PPA293,M1 which only says: They, like the Tuckers and the Clevelands, were descendants of European slave dealers, and their pursuits were the same. Some don't discuss the family, but just a specific Tucker, such as http://books.google.com/books?id=C4GuwL1cgnEC&pg=PA36&dq=Sherbro+Cleveland&sig=rsRwn1MsjXJAHkXDy8x7J-J5tDg which talks about Henry Tucker, the notorious slave trader. Based upon extensive searching and review of the available sources, I am convinced that the family is not notable as a group, although the larger Sherbro group and their activities are. They have their own article. Some individual Tuckers have their own articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bejnar ( talk • contribs)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the page's undeletion. ✗ plicit 23:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
wp:d2D unnecessary disambiguation — Karnataka talk 20:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy keep. Nominator blocked as a sock, otherwise unanimous keep. (No prejudice to renomination by another user in good standing) Legoktm ( talk) 08:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Lacks sigcov in reliable independent sources. IAmHuitzilopochtli ( talk) 19:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Assistant professor, appears to fail the general notability guideline and the SNG for academics. Justarandomamerican ( talk) Have a good day! 16:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
"For scholars in humanities the existing citation indices and Google Scholar often provide inadequate and incomplete information. (Google Scholar is not totally irrelevant in many cases, for it now does include citations to books—it's worth a look). In these fields one can also look at how widely the person's books are held in various academic libraries (this information is available in Worldcat) when evaluating whether Criterion 1 is satisfied."
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The result was redirect to Terror of Mechagodzilla. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 18:45, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
A Godzilla Kaiju who only has one major film to its name. It has a few small appearances afterwards, but that's about it. A search for sources yields practically nothing, and the article is already all plot. Given its major role in Terror of Mechagodzilla, a redirect there would likely work best as an AtD. Pokelego999 ( talk) 18:41, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. North America 1000 04:24, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
We have listings of "new artists" such as this article in The Punch where our subject is presented together with other new acts as a matter of routine for music pages or simple, yet embellished, announcements about new material, such as this one in TooXclusive, this in the Nigerian Tribune, or this in NotJustTok, a website that explicitly offers advertorials at a price. Then, we get reports about upcoming award events, in which the artist is mentioned once, as a candidate, e.g. here, here, etc; or announcements about upcoming tours, such as this. Practically all sources offer promotional copy instead of reviews, e.g. "The video is a reflection of the singer’s talent, as it is colourful and creative [and] will definitely garner the single more reviews"; some go as far, or as low, as reporting that the artist "has released new publicity photos" ( see here).
He's a young artist who has released one unremarkable single, marketing wise. There are millions, literally, like Ajura. At our most generous, we can wish for something better in the future. - The Gnome ( talk) 17:12, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
2023-08 Restlezz (musician) (closed as ✗ delete)
2023-05 move to →
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The result was Speedy delete both pages as copyvios. Stifle ( talk) 08:30, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
While the sugar industry of Saint Mary may well be a notable subject, this page is a very sprawling, exhaustive bit-by-bit history of some estates, and learns us very little about the actual sugar industry. WP:TNT seems better than trying to remove 90% and rewriting the remainder into a coherent, clear article. I don't think we need things like "1945: The Syndicate Estates decided to let Arthur Hallpike rent a coconut grove on the property in order to promote the growth of coconuts for pig feed.", or the series of irrelevant non-sequiturs "2004: "Our "National Fruit," the Antigua Black Pineapple, is depicted on our coat of arms. It has dark yellow meat that is very sweet and flavorful. The area known as the "Pineapple Belt" runs from Redhill to Bethesda and has volcanic soil all the way to Cades Bay. Pineapples are cultivated from suckers, which mature in 15 to 18 months and continue to bear fruit for around three years. Ten acres are currently farmed at the Government Station.[4] 2005: At Urlings, there is a lovely old manse that is still abandoned and deteriorating. In the past five years, the bell in the picture has been taken (plunderer). The Museum has access to Rev. Reid's family's diaries, which describe his time serving St. Mary's Parish in the Old Road neighborhood in 1859. Antigua's tallest peak, Bogey Peak, which was renamed Mt. Obama shortly after President Obama of the United States was elected, is 1319 feet high." Every entry has such things paraphrased from the source without much care, like "1778 — died in London. Robert Christian's son died in Antigua in 1776. It is thought that he arrived in London from Antigua in the year 1777, and by the year 1778, he was residing in Southampton-street, Strand, in the city of Westminster, where he died. His sister Margaret was married to William Gunthorpe of Antigua, and he had a brother named John who died there long before 1777." Fram ( talk) 17:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
@ CROIX, JMWt, and Mccapra: I have added the very similar Sugar industry of Saint George to this nomination, as it has the exact same issues. Fram ( talk) 07:59, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. WP:SNOW, clear consensus to delete except among all the now-blocked socks, including the creator of the article. Bbb23 ( talk) 22:45, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Subject does not meet criteria of WP:GNG, or WP:NBIO. He is an executive at an airline (regional director), but not the president/CEO nor vice-president. Article is written in a highly promotional tone and relies on unreliable sources such as press releases and this, which is basically written by the subject or his team rather than a professional journalist. Attempts to remove promotional content were reverted by the article's author. ... discospinster talk 16:58, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
This needs to be deleted and rewritten in a completely different tone so that the common people who are not experts in business and aviation can understand it. HarukaAmaranth ( 話) 18:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The article needs to be deleted and rewritten. My Dad was a regional director for Qatar airways. I can tell that it is a powerful position. Thinking a regional director cannot achieve all these is in my view wrong. However, the article needs to be deleted and rewritten to erase alot of unnecessary adulations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmirex ( talk • contribs) 19:52, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Again, I have asked if anyone has found any statement there that is not true ? If no one can dispute any claims in this article, I think it will be unfair to delete it. The University of Mississippi, the Canadian Chambers of Commerce and the offices of notable individuals mentioned in the article can all be contacted to verify the veracity of these claims. If they are true, why can't the truth stand ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caleb Onyeabor ( talk • contribs) 19:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
DRATIFY: Move to the draft space. It is only fair to move to the draft space perhaps that will provide an opportunity for other editors to verify the claims. I really did a lot of research for this. It is sad it is turning out this way. I will be fine.
Bbb23, I see you removed Trainsandotherthings's G11 tag on the article because it's at AFD, but including his comment we have seven votes for a speedy deletion so perhaps you could WP:SNOW close. The above is approaching WP:CIR and even WP:NOTHERE in thinking this is a racial bias issue or even grammar. Reywas92 Talk 19:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy keep. Nominator has indicated preference to keep with no outstanding !votes for any other outcome. (non-admin closure) Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Could not find any more significant coverage other than this, and we cannot base her notability on a single source, failing WP:GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 16:09, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 23:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
No independent significant coverage, failing WP:GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 16:06, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 16:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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Failure of WP:GNG. Some coverage here and here, but not enough significant coverage, and it was WP:ROUTINE declaring that she had been drafted as well. Every college player is not notable because they have some local news about them, and this is a case of that. Nothing to be found about her professional career. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 15:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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Failure of WP:GNG. Some coverage found here, but not enough to justify GNG being passed. A little bit here, but not SIGCOV. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 15:36, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to DAM (band). Duplicated topic. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 ( t • c) 10:56, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Notability (lack of reliable sources), Original research and Neutralily (the use of phrases like "important voice for the Palestinian resistance movement" and descriptions of Israeli censorship). LusikSnusik ( talk) 15:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Kope Formation. North America 1000 12:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Likely permastub of doubtful notability, also currently an orphan. This article was created back in 2012, when at the time the subject was getting attention in the press for being a "mystery fossil that stumps scientists". After that, however, almost nothing new has been written about it since, except a 2016 study by the fossil's discoverer and other scientists discussing its possible true identity. Alternatively to deletion, this article could be merged into Kope Formation instead, since the fossil was discovered from that formation in the first place. Monster Iestyn ( talk) 12:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:47, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable former gymnast. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NGYMNAST. Let'srun ( talk) 16:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. North America 1000 12:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Tagged as a concern regarding WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC and I can't see any significant coverage cited in any Wikipedia language. My own Austrian search yields only user-generated content and database sources, which are clearly not acceptable per SPORTBASIC. I found Sky Sports, which mentions him once, Lokal Sport, which is just standard match report coverage, and Fan Report, which mentions him only twice. Soccerway suggests that he's been playing at a low level for the last few years, which explains why coverage is hard to find. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:44, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) – 2. O. Boxing 11:47, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Fails GNG. BEFORE search only provided three sources that could be argued as SIGCOV (all written after his death); this is written by the article creator, so doesn't do much to establish notability; this is the strongest, but doesn't really offer much to base an article on (he was well respected, he trained X, people liked him, etc.); this is just a reword of the i.stuff article. All other sources I found were the same kind of passing mentions as what's currently used in the article. – 2. O. Boxing 11:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was no consensus. After all but a month on AFD it's clear there consensus against deleting the page, albeit no consensus as to what precisely to do. I'm not spinning the wheel again. Parties can discuss on the article talk page whether a merge, redirect, or otherwise is appropriate. Stifle ( talk) 08:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
No indication this article meets WP:ANYBIO. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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Redirect to Roosevelt family. None of the sources have any in depth coverage that I can see. The NYT death announcement is a mere notice not an obituary; and his mentions in the family history pieces by Life and the Chicago Tribune are just a couple of sentences. Eluchil404 ( talk) 04:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. After a full month on AFD I'm not seeing a consensus here or any realistic prospect of one emerging. Stifle ( talk) 08:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails to meet WP:GNG. DatGuy Talk Contribs 22:17, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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Mako is well respected within the Python web community.) also contribute toward notability in that they support mako's place within the Python community, are generally reliable for programming topics, and are more than a trivial mention. I think that Python Interviews, although not contributing to notability very much since it's an interview, would give some more factual details to add to the article as well. I'm also happy I learned doing research for this that mako is/was fairly commonly used as a tool for help generate 3d model and other description files (see Google Scholar results.) Skynxnex ( talk) 23:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Since this is already covered in the school article this fall's to delete. Spartaz Humbug! 11:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Do we really need an article for every somewhat salacious/scandalous incident which gets some media attention for a few days? WP:NOTNEWS/ WP:CRIME intersection. Fram ( talk) 08:54, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The subject has earned at least one cap for the Zimbabwe women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 06:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:37, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
A very arbitrary list that does not appear to meet WP:NLIST - no source is shown that shows that such a listing exists outside Wikipedia and my BEFORE yielded only forks and mirrors of this article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists. This is a complex list: awards limited to those named after governors general. So, in my assessment, first we see the govorners general are each notable, many of the awards are individually notable. As such, this is not indiscriminate. Non-notable or redlinked awards can reasonably be included for completeness of the list. This also fulfills WP:LISTPURP both informational (as it differentiates different types of awards and their individual fields), and navigational as a well-defined index of such awards. — siro χ o 06:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. WP:SNOW keep and withdrawn by nominator. Everyone agrees that the article should be kept, with me being the sole dissenting opinion, however I see no reason to prolong things when it is clear how it will end. (non-admin closure) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 06:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
The list is kind of cool, but nothing in it, nor in my BEFORE, suggests it meets WP:NLIST. Sadly, this seems more like WP:NOTTVTROPES content than encyclopedic. But perhaps someone can save this and find sources to add to the lead that show such a list exists outside Wikipedia? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:56, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Unreferenced and subject simply does not pass WP:BIO. Looked up "Martin Furer" and "Martin Furer + computer scientist" and found 2 or 3 sources stating that "a pair of Australian mathematicians...", otherwise he's just an educator. I considered moving to draftspace, however I think it's futile if there are no reliable sources to help improve the page. shelovesneo ( talk) 04:32, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to Prince Luís of Orléans-Braganza (1878–1920)#Children. Liz Read! Talk! 03:50, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Biography article about a Brazilian person who was a descendant of the then/now-extinct Brazilian royal family. The interwikis seem to have been built on cross-wiki spam. I bring it for community evaluation. Sturm ( talk) 03:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 02:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Obscure photographer. I haven't been able to find a single secondary source, in English or Serbian, which discusses the subject, so it fails the WP:BASIC criteria guidelines as well as WP:PHOTOGRAPHER. The article content which is unsourced is taken largely from his own website. Griboski ( talk) 02:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 02:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't seem to pass notability under either WP:NPROF or WP:NBASIC. Seems to just run her own practice and do self-promotional things. Mason ( talk) 02:17, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Subject does not meet the WP:GNG as a former beauty pageant contestant. Is a case of WP:BLP1E. Let'srun ( talk) 00:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was Speedily deleted ( non-admin closure). NotAGenious ( talk) 16:45, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
This page is a blatantly and explicitly promotional article dedicated to a French-Swiss entrepreneur. It fails WP:GNG with some clear WP:COI concerns. It was created by a WP:SPA in 2018. GuardianH ( talk) 02:15, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. The consensus is to Delete this article. Liz Read! Talk! 02:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable small press spinoff for a minor book character from 30 years ago. Few citations, all from press releases, Twitter and Facebook, and much discussion of things which may or may not happen in future
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02:36, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Final relist, we really need to hear from more editors in this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Liz
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02:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku ( talk) 02:33, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Liz
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01:57, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 02:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG and WP:TOOSOON, there are some insufficient sources according to WP:NACTOR guidelines. MirrorPlanet ( talk) 01:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The person has had significant roles in multiple notable filmsas verifiable via footnotes in the article. — siro χ o 06:07, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Fails
WP:GNG’s
WP:SIGCOV. Article was
previously PRODed for this reason, which
was challenged with two reasons. First reason was “not all surprising there are so few sources given it was in Algeria
” and second reason was “22+ deaths does mean notable
”. At the time of this AfD, there is 3 trivial government sources (2 lack much info and are basic information providers, similar to that of primary sources, and 1 is dead) and 2 academic sources. I consider this article to only have 2
reliable, secondary sources, i.e. the 2 academic sources, which technically aren’t actually used as references for the article, as they are used in a Further reading section, and not actual references. Per the
general notability guidelines, I do not see any significant coverage of the topic, which seems to actually be confirmed in the PROD challenge. The number of deaths also
does not establish/guarantee notability, especially given the lack of
reliable secondary sources used, or well not used. The
Weather Event Writer (
Talk Page)
01:29, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. I've reviewed the two papers listed in further reading and they both provide in depth SIGCOV of the subject, the papers are entirely about this earthquake. The papers were published in 2004 and 2009, this 1999 event demonstrates WP:PERSISTENCE — siro χ o 05:49, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Editors evaluating notability should consider not only any sources currently named in an article, but also the possibility or existence of notability-indicating sources that are not currently named in the article.Based on the article creator’s comment, and ignoring the basically primary sources (government ones), the article only has those two academic papers to show notability. If this was something from 80+ years ago, I would say that would be fine, since science wasn’t nearly close to modern times back then. But this is an earthquake from 1999, where new 2023 college graduates were alive at the time. Do you think those two academic papers (and solely those 2 papers, given the creator’s own comments) can truly show the SIGCOV nature of a modern-day earthquake? I’m perfectly fine if your answer is yes, I just wanted to sort of ask/double check, given I think you were unaware of the creator’s comment about really only using those 2 academic papers as sources for the article. The Weather Event Writer ( Talk Page) 06:44, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. Wikipedia's concept of notability applies this basic standard to avoid indiscriminate inclusion of topics.I.e. if we can find the sources, it's not an indiscriminate inclusion. If it's not indiscriminate, I feel very comfortable also considering WP:NOTPAPER.
The result was redirect to List of Nicaragua women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 01:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Nicaragua women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least three caps for the Nicaragua women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 00:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)