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Milad (entrepreneur)

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Non-notable, possibly a vanity article. Vinegarymass911 ( talk) 23:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Tarang Jain

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Hard to meet WP:GNG. Bakhtar40 ( talk) 07:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep Bakhtar40, as a fairly inexperienced editor (131 edits), you need to read WP:BEFORE, "If there are verifiability, notability or other sourcing concerns, take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources". It is not just the sources actually used in the article that count. A simple Google search for Tarang Jain Varroc (he owns 86%) gives us:

https://www.forbes.com/profile/tarang-jain/?sh=5a0e545f2676

https://www.forbesindia.com/article/big-bet/twinwin-venture-how-tarang-jain-built-a-global-automotive-business/49915/1

https://www.forbesindia.com/article/leaderhip-awards-2013/tarang-jain-taking-risks-to-derisk-varroc/36383/1

https://www.autocarpro.in/feature/varroc-tarang-jain-autocar-professional-3428

https://www.themachinist.in/interviews/2333/investments-help-companies-stay-competitive

https://www.cnbctv18.com/business/companies/varroc-engineering-striving-for-double-digit-margin-by-end-of-fy24-says-cmd-17046041.htm

There are plenty more. And who knows what else in Hindi, etc? Edwardx ( talk) 09:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Very reliable sources like forbes have enough coverage on the well known billionaire from India. Google search will also display results with many reliable sources on the subject. RangersRus ( talk) 13:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant)

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Redirect to List of Jeopardy! contestants#David Madden, or Delete. Case of WP:BLP1E that was previously deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) (2nd nomination), but it was recreated. Referencing is very poor (there are no quality RS that cover the subject in any SIGOV outside of being in lists of famous winners). I tagged the article a year ago and suggested it should be redirected as IPs were constantly adding badly referenced WP:PROMO material about his other business interests, but when I WP:BOLDLY redirected it a few days ago, having not had any response to my notices, User:Robert McClenon felt it was better to send to AfD. Aszx5000 ( talk) 09:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Only seeing now that it was also at AfD a third time (that AfD wasn't logged on the Talk Page) where it was kept Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Madden (Jeopardy! contestant) (3rd nomination). Having read the sourcing that was provided for the 3rd AfD, I think it was pretty weak, and a redirect, to his entry on List of Jeopardy! contestants#David Madden would be a better solution. Aszx5000 ( talk) 09:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment: I've now restored the AfD tag from the article, since it was removed by Oompaloompa1971 for apparently no reason. CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:

  People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

  • If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

  Sources
  1. McNear, Claire (2020). Answers in the Form of Questions: A Definitive History and Insider's Guide to Jeopardy!. New York: Twelve. ISBN  978-1-5387-0232-1. Retrieved 2024-04-29 – via Google Books.

     The book notes about Bruce Lou: "As a student, he’d done quiz bowl, the team trivia competition often found in scholastic settings, and won the National History Bee—a contest organized by David Madden, who was a nineteen-time Jeopardy! champion in 2005—and Lou found himself missing the competition."

     The book notes: "As Watson entered crunch time, Jeopardy! granted IBM access to notable champions from years past, including nineteen-time winner David Madden, whose streak was second only to Ken Jennings’s at the time. Madden played two games against Watson.“"

     The book notes: "A number of Jeopardy! alumni’s new chapters, perhaps unsurprisingly, have to do with trivia. David Madden was a twentythree-year-old grad student when he first played, and as he left the studio after his twentieth game with vouchers totaling more than $430,000, he wasn’t sure what he wanted to do. ... A quiz bowl alum, he ultimately used his winnings as seed money to found International Academic Competitions, which hosts, among other things, the annual National History Bee and Bowl."

     The book notes: "David Madden, the nineteen-time champion, remembers auditioning in the Jeopardy! studio in May 2004. With him was a friend named Jeff Hoppes, who was called to be on the show just before Madden and ultimately became one of the final victims of Ken Jennings, coming in second in the seventieth game of Jennings's seventy-four-game winning streak. Hoppes, Madden says, first played quiz bowl in high school when he was a classmate of Rutter's, and then went on to marry eventual six-time Jeopardy! champion and Tournament of Champions runner-up Larissa Kelly. Madden, Rutter, and Kelly made up the winning team in the All-Star Games."

  2. Grant, Meghan (2019-03-04). "'Jeopardy!' All-Star Games finals include Ridgewood native". North Jersey Media Group. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

     The article notes: "This Bergen County person is competing in the "Jeopardy!" All-Star Games this week. ... Who is former champion David Madden of Ridgewood? Among the former champs will be Madden, a member of Team Brad, one of the six trios of top players in the tournament. ... Back in 2005-2006, Madden won $432,400 in 19 rounds in a row — the third-longest winning streak in the game — earning a rank among "Jeopardy!" top players. ... Madden founded International Academic Competitions, running about a dozen contests in 30 countries, including the National History Bee and National Science Bee, hosting tens of thousands of students. Former players have gone on to "Jeopardy!" teen and college tournaments, and five staffers have won on the show."

  3. Grant, Meghan (2019-03-05). "Ridgewood native David Madden and Team Brad win 'Jeopardy!' All-Star Games". North Jersey Media Group. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

     The article notes: "Ridgewood native David Madden and his partners on Team Brad won a decisive victory on "Jeopardy!" All-Star Games, and the $1 million prize. ... Madden earned a spot on the All-Star Games roster by winning 19 rounds in a row in 2005 and 2006, the third-longest winning streak in the show’s history. He was “drafted” by team leader Brad Rutter, along with Madden’s former Princeton classmate, Larissa Kelly. ... Madden used some of his first "Jeopardy!" winnings, a $432,400 pot, as start-up money, going on to found International Academic Competitions."

  4. Coutros, Evonnie (2005-09-23). "Ridgewood grad strikes it rich on 'Jeopardy!'". The Record. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29 – via Newspapers.com.

     The article notes: "Former Ridgewood resident David Madden hit the jackpot this month, but it wasn't in the lottery. Madden, a 1999 graduate of Ridgewood High, had a 19-day winning streak on "Jeopardy!" and walked away from the game show with more than $430,000 in cash. Madden, 24, a graduate of Princeton University, lost to a 24-year-old self-employed musician from Decatur, Ga. The episode aired earlier this week. ... Madden, who now lives in Berlin, is studying for an advanced degree in international relations at Frei University."

  5. Daugherty, Haley (2023-02-17). "Greater Latrobe Senior High School to host national quiz competition". Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

     The article notes: "International Academic Competitions was started in 2010 by Jeopardy winner David Madden. He and his wife, Nolwenn Madden act as executive directors and they expanded the competition globally in 2012."

  6. Adams, Caralee J. (2013-07-01). "Reviving History Instruction: What's Old Is New Again". Education Week. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

     The article notes: "With the goal of engaging students more deeply in history, David Madden, a “Jeopardy” champion and former high school and college quiz-bowl player, established the National History Bee & Bowl in 2010. Now in about 2,000 schools—elementary through high—individual Bee competitions and Bowl events are held throughout the country. Mr. Madden, 31, discovered there was plenty of demand."

  7. Ferguson, Mike (2014-02-08). "'I'll take history for $1,000, Alex': Founder of history bowl attends Montana competition". Billings Gazette. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

     The article notes: "Montana high school history buffs can thank David Madden’s 19-day winning streak on the game show “Jeopardy!” nine years ago for the chance to show off their own knowledge Saturday at Skyview High School. Madden, 32, is founder and executive director of the National History Bee and Bowl, an individual and team competition with about 50,000 participants in more than 200 places around the country and overseas, too. About 60 students competed all day Saturday in the state championship held in Skyview’s theater. ... Madden, a graduate of Princeton University, founded the organization four years ago on his more than $400,000 in winnings on America’s most famous quiz show."

  8. Zarnowski, Tatiana (2011-02-28). "Saratoga Springs competition will test knowledge of history". The Daily Gazette. Archived from the original on 2014-07-22. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

     The article notes: "National History Bowl and Bee, a private, for-profit startup company, is based in Ridgewood, N.J., where owner David Madden is from. The company conducted a pilot competition there in May. In 2005, Madden reigned in a 20-game run on “Jeopardy!,” the second-longest ever after Ken Jennings, who had a 74-game winning streak."

  9. Strauss, Robert (2005-10-09). "Worth Noting; I'll Take Quiz Kids For $600, Alex". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

     The article notes: "Mr. Madden was the captain of the Quiz Bowl team at Ridgewood High, and was on a similar freshman team at Princeton."

  10. Pakkala, Tiffany (2008-01-10). "'Jeopardy' winner turns to hiking with a purpose". Savannah Morning News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-29. Retrieved 2024-04-29.

      The article notes: ""Jeopardy" fans remember him as the calculating young trivia expert who won 19 times on the game show and left with winnings more than $442,000, in part because he sought out the "Daily Double" early to maximize his cash. Now David Madden, 26, is crunching numbers for a different reason: He's hiking 3,000 miles to help raise money for a group that offers free and low-cost lodging to hospitalized soldiers and their families."

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow David Madden to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard ( talk) 05:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Which of these refs is WP:SIGCOV on the subject in a major regional/national media outlet - none.

No main regional or national American news outlet thinks he is notable enough to do a piece on him - if they don't think he is notable, why do we?

Passing mentions, and mostly for the BLP1E, in small media outlets, is not the General notability guideline. If that was the case we could get rid of BLP1E as a guideline as most cases have such coverage. Aszx5000 ( talk) 08:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The subject received significant coverage in 2005, 2008, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2019, 2020, and 2023. A person who falls under WP:BLP1E does not receive sustained significant coverage over 18 years for his activities.

He was a nineteen-time Jeopardy! champion in 2005. He founded the International Academic Competitions, which hosts the annual National History Bee and Bowl. He competed in and with his partners won the "Jeopardy!" All-Star Games in 2019. A person who has received significant coverage for multiple events does not fall under WP:BLP1E.

The subject is from New Jersey. The subject received significant coverage in a 2020 book published by Twelve. He received significant coverage in a 2014 article in Billings Gazette, the largest newspaper in Montana. He received significant coverage in a 2008 article in the Savannah Morning News, a regional newspaper that covers the Savannah metropolitan area and parts of South Carolina. He easily meets Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline and Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria.

Cunard ( talk) 08:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

But he hasn't received any significant coverage. If WP:GNG was "significant number of passing mentions in non-national/regional sources", then he would be a keep. But the requirement is for "significant coverage", and in quality sources (of which there is also none).

I could create an AI to scan 3rd tier US media to find names briefly mentioned (many of which will have a BLP1E element), and I could create 1 million more Wikipedia BLPs in the morning, but I would probably be in ANI shortly after.

No encyclopedia outside of Jeopardy! fan sites, will ever have an article on this subject. His entry on List of Jeopardy! contestants#David Madden captures everything that is notable about his BLP1E. Aszx5000 ( talk) 09:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Sources such as Pakkala 2008 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFPakkala2008 ( help), Ferguson 2014 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFFerguson2014 ( help), Grant 2019a harvnb error: no target: CITEREFGrant2019a ( help), and McClear 2020 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFMcClear2020 ( help) are not passing mentions. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says, "multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". Cunard ( talk) 10:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Rahul Yadav

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Does not meet Wikipedia's notability standards. Press Releases and announcements. Most of the news is about his firm. The news are about the company. Or it will be better to Redirect this article on Housing.com. Bakhtar40 ( talk) 15:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Ashwinder Singh

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Fails WP:NBIO and WP:GNG. A Google search brings up more such paid PR publications. Bakhtar40 ( talk) 15:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Ami Dror

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. References are atrocious and consist mostly interviews, passing mentions and tangenital links and profiles. scope_creep ^Talk 14:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep - Sourcing meets WP:GNG. -- Omer Toledano ( talk) 14:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep-- היידן ( talk) 15:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep Has at least 3 solid GNG references. I didn't review all 57 references, but if some or even many have the problems described in the nom, that is not a reason to delete the article. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 15:05, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep Sofiblum ( talk) 15:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

This is a WP:SPA and has made no other contributions to Wikipedia. scope_creep ^Talk 15:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment I'll look at the references, all of them this weekend, including the 3 supposed good references on a 30k article with close to 60 references, suffering from WP:CITEKILL. scope_creep ^Talk 15:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• keep a very well known docial activist who had asignificant impact on the protests in Israel Hila Livne ( talk) 16:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• keep. A known activist and the article has enough references. Danny-w ( talk) 16:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

This editor hasn't edited for months and magically appears now for some reason. scope_creep ^Talk 17:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

*Comment Seems to a lot of canvassing going on here, from Hebrew speaking Jewish editors again, espousing the same arguments I've heard before about being fanstastically well known and article has enough references. We will find out. scope_creep ^Talk 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Seems as though tag teaming is going on. I might have to take you all to WP:ANI, including the Hebrew admin, except North8000. This behaviour is probably disruptive. scope_creep ^Talk 17:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Strike your comment, which violates WP:CIVILITY and WP:AGF. The religion and nationality of other editors is irrelevant, as are evidence-free charges of canvassing. Longhornsg ( talk) 17:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

User:Scope creep: I would like to repeat Longhornsg's request. Strike your comment. It comes across as ad hominem and racist. It has no place in an AfD. You have made several additional comments to this AfD without addressing it. Do not continue to comment here while failing to address this. — David Eppstein ( talk) 02:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

It is not meant to be racist. I've struck the comment, but it still looks like canvassing and this is the 20th Afd where I've seen this behaviour. scope_creep ^Talk 07:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep. Are all the sources perfect? Absolutely not, the article needs work. Does coverage of the article topic in RS satisfy WP:GNG? Yes. Longhornsg ( talk) 17:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The article was reviewed at Afc by 4 seperate editors who found it wanting before I rejected it. To say it needs work, is the understatement of the century. scope_creep ^Talk 17:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment Lets looks at the references, to find these three elusive WP:SECONDARY sources.

• Ref 1 [1] This is exclusive interview. Not independent.
• Ref 2 [2] This is contributor. Its non-rs.
• Ref 3 Unable to see it at the moment.
• Ref 4 [3] This is another interview. Not independent.
• Ref 5 [4] This is another interview style PR business article. Not independent.
• Ref 6 [5] This is from a press-release. It is non-rs.
• Ref 7 [6] Ami Dror, founder. That is not independent.
• Ref 8 [7] Non-notable trade award. A small profile on Dror.
• Ref 9 [8] His business is thrilled to annouce. A press-release. Non-RS.
• Ref 10 [9] Another press-release Non-RS.
• Ref 11 [10] An interview. Not independent.
• Ref 12 [11] Business interview. It is not independent.
• Ref 13 [12] Another interview. Not independent.
• Ref 14 404
• Ref 15 [13] A radio interview. Not independent.
• Ref 16 Unable to view it.

Out of the 15 references in the first block, the majority of which are interviews. So nothing to prove any long term viability for this WP:BLP article. scope_creep ^Talk 18:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment - Following references are solid and satisfy WP:GNG:

• Ref 32 [14] - "Shine News" in Shanghai
• Ref 33 [15] (Hebrew) - in Calcalist
• Ref 30 [16] - in Israel21c

Kindly retract your deletion request. -- Omer Toledano ( talk) 18:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for posting these @ Omer Toledano:. I will take a look at them.

• Ref 32 This is a business interview style article for a new business by Dror, based in Shanghai. It is not idependent.
• Ref 33 This is also a business style interview with Dror that comes under WP:NCORP as part of PR branding drive for his new company in Shanghai. It is not independent either. Its is him talking.
• Ref 30 This is another PR style article with no byline, promoting the business. It is not independent.

None of these are independent. They are not valid sources for a WP:THREE exercise. This is a WP:BLP tha must pass WP:BIO to remain on Wikipedia. WP:BLP states, "Wikipedia must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources." Not one of these 19 sources can satisfy notability to prove it. They are not independent, they are not in-depth and they are not significant. I'll look at the second block. scope_creep ^Talk 19:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

They satisfy WP:GNG and that is sufficient enough. Kindly retract your deletion request. -- Omer Toledano ( talk) 19:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment Looking at the 2nd tranche of references:

• Comment Some discussions mentioned requirements from WP:NCORP WP:ORGIND and WP:SIRS. These are requirements for using special Notability Guideline "way in" for Companies/Organizations. This is an article about a person, not a company or organization. The applicable standards would be to pass either the sourcing WP:GNG (the center of the discussion here) or the people SNG Wikipedia:Notability (people) (not discussed here). Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 19:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ North8000: The article mixes WP:BLP and promotes a stong business content via PR which are pure spam links and that one the reason that it was repeatedly declined continuously on WP:AFC. It has been established practice since about 2018 and is consensus to note these when it fails a policy, even if its WP:NCORP. The PR spam link reference make up a tiny number, less than 3-5% of the total. There not independent. scope_creep ^Talk 19:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment Thanks for posting these @ Omer Toledano: in the spirit they are intended. I will take a look at them.

• Ref 32 This is a business interview style article for a new business by Dror, based in Shanghai. It is a promotional PR piece and is not independent.It is a WP:SPS source.
• Ref 33 This is also a business style interview with Dror that comes under WP:NCORP as part of PR branding drive for his new company in Shanghai. It is not independent either.
• Ref 30 This is another PR style article with no byline, promoting the business. It is non-rs.

None of these are independent. They are not valid sources for a WP:THREE exercise. This is a WP:BLP tha must pass WP:BIO to remain on Wikipedia. WP:BLP states, "Wikipedia must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources." Not one of these 19 sources can satisfy notability to prove it. They are not independent, they are not in-depth and they are not significant. I'll look at the second block. scope_creep ^Talk 19:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment Looking at the 2nd tranche of references:

• Ref 17 [17] Another interview. Its not independent.
• Ref 18 [18] Another interview. Seems he was the bodyguard of Netanyahu.
• Ref 19 Non-rs
• Ref 20 Non-rs
• Ref 21 Unable to view it
• Ref 22 [19] Its a passing mention.
• Ref 23 Non-rs
• Ref 24 [20] It is a profile. It is junk social media. Non-rs.
• Ref 25 [21] Essentially a passing mention.
• Ref 27 [22] "Ami Dror, said in an interview with CNET" Not independent.
• Ref 28 [23] Doesn't mention him.
• Ref 29 [24] It is a passing mention and is not significant.
• Ref 30 Duplicate of above. PR
• Ref 31 [25] A small profile. Not significant.
• Ref 32 Described above as PR that fails. It is a WP:SPS source.
• Ref 34 Non-rs
• Ref 35 [26] That is a press-release. Fails WP:SIRS.
• Ref 36 [27] That is a routine annoucenent of partnership that fails WP:CORPDEPTH.

So another block of junk reference. Not one of them is a WP:SECONDARY source. Some passing mentions, lots of interviews, a lot of business PR and not one that satisfies WP:BIO or WP:SIGCOV. The article is a complete crock. (edit conflict) scope_creep ^Talk 19:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Give it a rest and stop WP:BADGERING. Longhornsg ( talk) 20:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment There has been linking to essays, guidelines, and policies which I feel in several cases has been incorrect regarding what they are, their applicability (including the context of where they came from) and interpretations of them. Other than to note that, I don't plan to get deeper in on them individually. IMO the core question is whether the topic/article has the sources to comply with a customary application of WP:GNG Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 20:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment I've removed the WP:NCORP mentions per discussion, although the businesses are heavily promoted in the article. The rest of the reference in the 3rd tranche are of equally poor references, made up of profiles, interviews, podcast and lots of non-rs refs. It none of secondary sourcing needed to prove the person is notable per WP:BIO. Of the three criteria in WP:BIO, this person fails all of them. Up until Dror started to protest which was quite recent, he was invisible. Its all of the moment. scope_creep ^Talk 14:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Sunarso

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No significant coverage or importance on the subject to have an article. 𝓡𝔂𝓭𝓮𝔁 08:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Richard L. Albert

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Lacks significant coverage, though his company Design Projects is an extremely generic name. No possible redirect as his company does not have an article. He seems to have worked mostly on B movies. —Kaliforniyka ^Hi! 01:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Design Projects Incorporated was formed on February 10, 1978 in California, (see https://bizfileonline.sos.ca.gov/search/business) and was closed on June 1, 1994.

Design Projects first client was Universal Pictures, and also did advertising, design and packaging for 20th Century Fox, Warner Home Video, Columbia Pictures, as well as international distributors, starting with Best International Films and Producers Sales Organizations, and including Goldcrest and ad campaigns for Sanrio Films while they had a Los Angeles branch office.

It also created ad campaigns for many independent film distributors, such as Group One, New World, Film Ventures International. We also

Prior to 1978, I worked as a freelance designer for Universal Pictures, Filmways, as well as Universal Music.

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Michael Malatin

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Does not meet WP:N

• Delete Fails WP:NBIO as another run-of-the-mill startup founder. Batmanthe8th ( talk) 17:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Delete: Hospital parking executives are not notable, even what's used for sourcing now is simple confirmation of employment. I don't find anything about this person. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Anass Maksi (Business executive)

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Not a notable enough person for an article. Fails WP:NBIO - barely any coverage in reliable secondary sources. Kk.urban ( talk) 17:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Zero media coverage. Being a hard-working individual isn't helping notability and withdrawing from an election isn't notable either. This is PROMO. Heck, it's sourced to the Better Business Bureau, a patents database and government websites, none of which help notability. Could have almost speedied this. Oaktree b ( talk) 19:54, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete sourced entirely by non- WP:RS sources. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 12:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete and title blacklist Sock repost: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anass Maksi (businessman), etc. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  I would prefer this not get speedied, just so we have a deletion discussion to point to for G4. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Speedy Delete Couldn't find any news coverage anywhere It appears like that most of the sources are given from our own website. Shabh ( talk) 3:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Sindhuja Rajaraman

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Ok look, there's been a bunch of back and forth on this article, including the previous nomination being overturned from keep to no consensus. I've done some digging on the subject, and here's my conclusions:

1. This individual has not won a Guinness World Record. This appears to be a miscited claim from them saying they had submitted a world record attempt for "fastest created movie" for creating a 3 minute animated movie in 10 hours. This attempt was not recorded by the Guinness Book of World Records. In the previous nomination, it was commented by several keep voters that the 3rd source in this article is from a reliable source. Given that they have printed this very simply false claim in the second sentence, I propose it be disregarded.

2. From what I can see, this individual's appointment was by her father's friend (described as her mentor) and carried pretty limited scope of responsibilities. This article seems to explain it best - https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/bs-people-sindhuja-rajamaran-111032400058_1.html

3. WP:NEWSORGINDIA was not mentioned in the previous nomination, but I would like to comment that I think it makes this specific claim of notability extra dubious.

No ill will here, she seems like a smart woman making a good way in the world, but this marketing stunt is her *only* source of notability. It seems like it will be very difficult to write an encyclopaedic article about her because the only sources covering her are local puff pieces about how great she is. BrigadierG ( talk) 22:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment: We literally just closed this less than 3 weeks ago. Let it rest for a bit. There is nothing that's changed in a month. Any "untruths" lets call them (as mentioned above), can be removed from the article by edit, not be deletion. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  The discussion closed as no consensus which doesn't hold prejudice to renomination. Given that the most recent coverage for this individual is from 7 years ago or so, I don't think much is going to change about their notability status. At best, waiting stirs the voter pool a bit. BrigadierG ( talk) 17:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Tobi Mohammed

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Again, Fails WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or any applicable WP:SNG even after previous AfD. This is mostly based on WP:INHERENT and WP:RUNOFTHEMILL. Below is my source assessment;

Source assessment table:
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/09/13/the-plug-topboy-entertainment-formalise-merger-announce-mohammed-as-managing-partner	Promotional piece about the merger of The Plug and TopBoy Entertainment	Even though ThisDay is reliable per WP:NGRS, No byline used in the piece. Promotional nature of this piece also affects its reliability	~ Mostly about the merger of The Plug and TopBoy Entertainment	✘ No
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/10/16/oluwatobi-mohammed-the-young-entertainment-disruptor	Promotional piece that is not entirely independent	Ditto		✘ No
https://tribuneonlineng.com/tobi-mohammed-a-journey-of-innovation-from-tech-to-entertainment/	This source appears to be a promotional profile piece on Tobi Mohammed.	Even though per WP:NGRS, Nigerian Tribune is reliable, the promotional nature of this article affects its reliability.		✘ No
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/11/from-dream-to-reality-the-inspiring-journey-of-topboy-entertainment/	This source seems to be a promotional piece about TopBoy Entertainment.	Source is marginally reliable per WP:NGRS, and the promotional nature of this article affects its reliability	The article provides significant coverage of the journey of TopBoy Entertainment	✘ No
https://www.turntablecharts.com/news/1256	~ This source is a promotional piece about Tobi Mohammed’s BlockParty series.	Even though the promo from here oozes, it does not affect this context.	This is about Tobi Mohammed’s BlockParty series and not Tobi Mohammed himself	✘ No
https://digimillennials.com/music/offstage-alhaji-popping/		No byline used in piece and reads promotional		✘ No
https://socialmediaweeklagos2020.sched.com/speaker/tobi27	This source is a profile of Tobi Mohammed from the Social Media Week Lagos 2020 event.	Promotional profile		✘ No
https://dailypost.ng/2023/06/09/tobi-mohammed-shares-invaluable-insights-on-soft-power/	Obvious sponsored content	Even though Daily Post is reliable, this is an obvious sponsored content		✘ No
https://notjustok.com/article/afrobeats-live-and-awards-power-players-2019/		No byline used	Not specifically about the subject	✘ No
https://www.turntablecharts.com/magazine/3rd/57	Ditto	~	Ditto	✘ No
https://www.turntablecharts.com/news/1184	Ditto	~	Ditto	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}.

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• Delete: We had this about a year ago, here we are again, still not notable. The source chart is overly generous with a few sources, but I agree it's a !delete, this is PROMO. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Delete looks like promotion per sources provided. No deep coverage by independent sources. Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 11:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. The subject of this article has not been discussed in reliable secondary sources. Some of the sources (ThisDay) cited in the article are not independent of him and others (The Nation newspaper) are promotional to say the least. The awards he has won or been nominated for aren't notable.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 17:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Evangeline Wiles

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8-year orphaned permastub on a "technology entrepreneur" with a single middling reference. BD2412 T 20:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  Delete I can only find press releases saying she's running this panel or other. BrigadierG ( talk) 22:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete: Speaker at xyz event, is about all there is for coverage about this person. One line stub that we can delete. Vaguely PROMO, not enough for notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete subject lacks GNG as most of the sources available online are just press releases, not enough to establish notability. Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 11:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Chris Maurice

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Not a relevant subject for an article. 𝓡𝔂𝓭𝓮𝔁 18:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete, Current consensus states that crypto-centric sources don't count towards notability. Furthermore the creator (and only major contributor to this article) appears to have a conflict of interest since he has exclusively edited articles related to Chris Maurice or his company. Samoht27 ( talk) 19:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep There are articles published in Forbes, Business Insider and African newspapers. That makes him eligible according to Wikipedia. Jeersks ( talk) 10:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Jo Lambert

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Fails the notability guideline for people. PROD was removed. Sources are either not independent or do not provide significant coverage. – Tera tix ₵ 05:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep, she is a COO and has significant news coverage, as well as in-depth coverage (see citations for Fortune, NPR, Tearsheet) which meets WP:NBIO. Because she has a commonly used name, some of the news coverage for Lambert is hard to find. I added new citations since the AfD listing. PigeonChickenFish ( talk) 06:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  The citations you have added are a classic example of a notability bomb – inserting a lot of insignificant references to create a superficial appearance of notability. For the benefit of other editors I will address each of them, but in future AfD discussions, instead of adding a dozen insignificant references and expecting other editors to pick through them, try to focus on a few excellent sources.

  • Source 1 (Fortune) is an interview with Lambert that is too brief to constitute significant coverage and does not provide independent analysis of Lambert beyond her interview responses.
  • Source 2 (NPR) is an obvious PR piece – if we dig a little deeper we find Lambert was elected to the NPR board, making this source non-independent and an obvious non-starter.
  • Sources 3–8 and 10 are about various things Lambert's employers did. None of them provide significant coverage of Lambert herself, but rather mention her only in passing. Again, these obviously constitute a notability bomb.
  • Sources 9 and 13 are profiles of Lambert for a conference she spoke at. These are obviously not independent sources.
  • Source 11 is a press release, obviously not independent.
  • The bulk of Source 12 (Tearsheet) is paywalled. I'm unfamiliar with Tearsheet, but looking at their About Us page brought me to this page explaining their services, where they describe their purpose as [helping] financial services and fintech firms create memorable and meaningful content and get it in front of their target readers and exhort prospective customers to let us craft your unique story in a way that’s memorable and provides value to your audience. I conclude Tearsheet is not an independent reliable source but rather a vehicle for advertorials.

  – Tera tix ₵ 07:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Lambert does share her name with others but it is easy to account for this by using more precise search terms or skipping over sources that obviously don't refer to Lambert the executive. – Tera tix ₵ 07:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Source 1 is not an interview, and source 2 has no date (also I don’t think source 2 is PR, because I would expect PR would mention her current employer, or her status at the NPR board for example). Source 12 is not paywalled for me, it has biographical details (and not an interview) but I was also not familiar with the site, and perhaps it is questionable like you say. PigeonChickenFish ( talk) 08:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

On Fortune: Honestly, it doesn't really matter what we call it – the point is it contains very little substantive coverage of Lambert, and what little there is has clearly drawn on interview responses from Lambert or just directly quotes her. Bottom line: it's not a source that provides the significant coverage needed to contribute to notability.

On NPR: a profile that appears on the website of a company for which she serves as a board member, that opens by gushing Lambert is a visionary, outcome driven executive and calls her a transformational leader with a proven track record – you don't think that's PR? You think that's an independent source we should accept as key evidence of Lambert's notability? That's your honest and thoughtfully considered view? – Tera tix ₵ 10:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Here is the Tearsheet article on Internet Archive. I also added it to the citation. S0091 ( talk) 16:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Nkosana Makate

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Product of WP:BLP1E. Yes, the subject has been making the news in the past few months but this is all just 15 minutes of fame. WP:ATD, a redirect to Vodacom#"Please Call Me" would make sense. dxneo ( talk) 00:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment this case been in the news for years, not months. It has been extensively covered in WP:RS for that time. So the nomination description of it as “15 minutes of fame” is inaccurate. Makate may, or may not be notable in terms of WP:BLP1E but the case almost certainly is. Park3r ( talk) 03:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Park3r, the case may be notable. However, I don't think Nkosana Makate is, the article is composed of this particular case only. Opening statement says "…is a South African who proposed the "Buzz" idea to Vodacom", no description nor WP:SIGCOV, and back to the nom, this is a clear BLP1E. Until relevant sources are brought to light, I think redirecting the article to Vodacom is the way to go. dxneo ( talk) 04:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep Not sure I understand the deletion rationale here. The case is definitely notable and as much as Nkosana Makate may not be notable but he definitely deserves a mention in the case because after all he is the central figure to the case. Also, seeing that most articles on Wikipedia are about Europe and U.S and there is a serious lack of African content (including content on languages) I think it would have been wise for you Dineo to be bold fix the issues on this article and go on to translate it to your mother tongue than tag it for speedy deletion. Wikimedia ZA is there to support African Wikimedian like yourself to increase African content and languages on Wikipedia. Please reach out to me on bobby.shabangu@wikimedia.org.za to talk more on how we can support you. Bobbyshabangu _talk 18:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Bobbyshabangu, yes he may be the central figure but this is pure WP:BLP1E (meaning he's known for one event only) which is the deletion rationale here. I wouldn't have nominated it for deletion if there was something I could do to improve it. Nkosana Makate is already mentioned on Vodacom#Please Call Me. Note that your comment does not support your "keep" !vote in any way. dxneo ( talk) 19:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Shibata Takumi (fund manager)

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Basic business person resume/CV. Of the 4 references, 3 are brief appointment announcements and one is a brief database type description. North8000 ( talk) 15:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Obvious Keep I wonder if North8000 did a WP:BEFORE search including sources in Japanese. We're talking about the former CEO of a company with $250 billion under management. [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] (and yes, I realize some of these are short but keep in mind Japanese is a much more concise language. These results are just from the first couple of pages of results in a quick Google search btw. DCsansei ( talk) 10:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

How about picking/pointing out 2 that cover him in depth. North8000 ( talk) 12:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Steve Ewing

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Promotional article fails WP:BIO. No content worth merging. Schierbecker ( talk) 07:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Merge with The Urge: I don't see extensive coverage outside the band. For all this is, the paragraph can be incorporated into the band's article. Oaktree b ( talk) 12:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge to The Urge - I am familiar with this singer and he has done nothing independently notable outside his main band. The fact that he owns a restaurant and will be the subject of a film can be mentioned at the band's article, and that's about it. Otherwise this article is clearly a promotional attempt. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 12:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

John Dmello

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The sources cited in the article for establishing notability (also listed on the talk page) are WP:SPONSORED and WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The list includes articles from India Today, Outlook India, and ANI. Additionally, sources like The New Indian Express and Financial Express are suspected to be sponsored due to lack of authorship. This article was previously soft-deleted via AfD. Grabup ( talk) 10:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Being an organic farmer in the 21st Century doesn't get you notability. The sourcing reads as PR for the company, which isn't useful here. I don't see any sources we can use, nor do I find any that aren't PR'ish. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Avinash Chate

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Fails WP:NBIO and WP:GNG. All sources on the page are regurgitated paid PR articles. A Google search brings up more such paid PR publications. Teemu.cod ( talk) 06:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Weak Delete - These sources appear to be paid, yet there is no conclusive evidence confirming them as such, as they lack disclaimers and are not featured in the "brandspot" section. The suspicion arises due to the absence of credited authors and the promotional nature of the articles, which deviate from typical news formats. Grabup ( talk) 09:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Very PROMO with flowery language in multiple sources. Non-notable corporate communicator person. Oaktree b ( talk) 12:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Every news story cited here reads like paid placement. Per WP:NEWSORGINDIA, Indian news sources require careful consideration due to weak controls on advertising and sponsored content, and almost all of the stories would trigger caution (for example, their lack of a bylined author). We should not use the available sources to validate notability under GNG or BIO. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Marvín A. Santana

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No establishment of sustained notability using WP:RS Amigao ( talk) 01:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete, same as with Marvín Sántana, Marvin A. Santana, and Marvin Amparo Santana... Hatman31 ( talk) 15:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Zivit Inbar

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Unreliable information. No RS. Fails the GNG. gidonb ( talk) 23:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete orphan article that looks like a CV. WP:NOTRESUME. LibStar ( talk) 23:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete - no evidence of notability, this is just promotional. Fails WP:GNG among other notability cirteria, and WP:NOTCV. LizardJr8 ( talk) 23:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: PROMO with no sources outside of PR items or lists. Even my searches only turn up PR items. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Delete: I searched for reliable sources and found no evidence of notability. Marokwitz ( talk) 15:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: per norm Robertjamal12 ~🔔 16:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Speedy delete: Looks just like a CV, clearly intended as promotional. -- D'n'B- t -- 18:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete Wikipedia is WP:NOTLINKEDIN. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 12:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: not notable. TarnishedPath ^talk 08:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete nothing notable about the topic. Chekidalum ( talk) 11:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Strong delete: promotional material without any evidence of WP:GNG. Contributor892z ( talk) 17:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Mehmet Abbasoğlu (businessman)

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Fails GNG or relevant specefic criteia. Not enough independent significant coverage.

• Source 1: Petrol Ofisi reached a market share of 23.09 percent (translated), Reliable? Unknown (likely), Independent? Yes, Significant coverage? No
• Source 2:Petrol Ofisi CEO Abbasoğlu: Our only bottleneck is our roads (translated) Reliable? Not likely, Significant coverage? No (Routine coverage of a conference, only quotes the CEO's statement)
• 3:Petrol Ofisi Group accelerates investments in line with Turkey's national energy strategy, Reliable? Not likely (State-run), Significant coverage? No (About company announcements, not the subject of the article)
• 4:Vitol-owned Petrol Ofisi agrees to purchase BP’s Turkish fuel operations, Reliable? Unknown, Independent? No (Publisher owns the company), Significant coverage? No (One-line mention)
• 5:404-error
• 6:Turkey’s Petrol Ofisi announces new chief executive officer, Reliable? No (Likely an advertisement), Independent? No (Likely an advertisement, no bylines, promotional tone, likely WP:RSNOI applies), Significant coverage? No (Mainly discusses company position changes, not the subject)
• 7:Change of general manager at Petrol Ofisi, Press release citing company statement
• 8:How A Gritty Market Leader Transformed Out Of A ‘Doomed’ Industry, Forbes contributor promo, not reliable by itself, further it's mostly an interview so primary source
• 9:Mehmet Abbasoğlu became the General Manager of Petrol Ofisi, similar to source 7, Press release citing a company statement
• Sources 10-16, more of the same. Waste of time and energy detailing here.

X ( talk) 19:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. Excluding the material from Forbes and sources where the person is an employee or director, the references seem fine. These are all valid references for a corporate executive. Newspaper articles aren't press releases; while a company announcement may be the starting point for a newspaper story about an executive appointment, the newspaper makes its own decisions about whether the announcement is newsworthy and what to include. Anadolu Agency is a legitimate news agency despite being state-run, although some caution is needed when considering its coverage of politics. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 21:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  In my view, appointment news (yes technically may not be Press releases, but the specific references I mentioned as PR merely report anything independent but relay/quote the company statement) fo-shizzle falls under routine coverage. X ( talk) 22:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Nothing found in article or BEFORE that meets WP:SIRS addressing the subject directly and indepth, routine mill news based on press releases, mentions, etc do not meet WP:SIRS. BLPs require strong sourcing.  //  Timothy ::  talk  12:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Redirect to Petrol Ofisi. The only source with significant coverage is the WP:FORBESCON piece, which is not RS. The reliable sources are routine announcements of his appointment as CEO. No notability independent of the company, hence redirect. Jfire ( talk) 03:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Cheryl Epple

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The highest-held position is as an elected trustee/board president to Cerritos College. All references are based on death/obituary. Don't think she meets the threshold for WP:NPOL or wp:anybio. Notability is not inherited through marriage. Doesn't make any mention of business accomplishments. Internet search results are sparse. I suggest deletion or move to draft at minimum. Classicwiki ( talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 18:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete Agree that college board member is not a notability-bearing position and the coverage is not significant enough. Reywas92 ^Talk 15:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Notability is not inherited, so she isn't automatically entitled to have an article just because her husband has one — but the article is not demonstrating or properly sourcing that she has any meaningful claim of standalone notability in her own right. There also appears to be a bit of a pattern here, as this was created by the same editor who created Patti Garamendi, which I put up for AFD last week for virtually identical reasons. Bearcat ( talk) 18:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Notability is determined not by the perceived prestige of a position but by coverage in sources. The article cites coverage in the Long Beach Press-Telegram and the Cerritos College newspaper Talon Marks. There is also coverage in Insurance Journal, the periodical of record of the American Agents Alliance. Another periodical, the Downey Patriot, reports that she is the namesake of a memorial scholarship. Hydrangeans ( she/her | talk | edits) 08:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

John Davis Jr. (presidential candidate)

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Very minor candidate who appeared on two primary ballots. Received less than 4000 votes out of nearly 20 million cast. Lacking significant, in-depth coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources per WP:GNG. AusLondonder ( talk) 15:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete None of the content or sources is substantively biographical. Just some dude who took advantage of easy ballot access. Reywas92 ^Talk 16:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Redirect Redirect to 2012 Republican Party presidential candidates#Appeared on only two primary ballots. Geotubemedia ( talk) 10:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. I think a redirect would give an undue indication of notability. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 12:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Redirect to 2012 Republican Party presidential candidates#Appeared on only two primary ballots as a viable ATD. Per nom. and others, fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Sal2100 ( talk) 16:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. (No prejudice against the recreation of a redirect from the redlink if desired, but delete first as I see no value in holding onto the edit history behind a redirect.) Fringe candidates for president are not "inherently" notable per WP:NPOL just for existing, and have to show some evidence of actually passing WP:GNG on their sourceability — but this is referenced entirely to primary and unreliable sources that aren't support for notability, with no GNG-worthy sourcing shown whatsoever. Bearcat ( talk) 18:21, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete or Redirect to 2012 Republican Party presidential candidates#Appeared on only two primary ballots, he's a minor candidate known only for being a minor candidate. Samoht27 ( talk) 19:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to 2012 Republican Party presidential candidates#Appeared on only two primary ballots. GobsPint ( talk) 22:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Iftikhar A. Ayaz

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Fails WP:BASIC and WP:PRIMARY: "Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them." No secondary sources at all. AusLondonder ( talk) 07:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Speedy keep. Clearly meets WP:GNG. @ AusLondonder: Have added reliable secondary sources to the article now. Request withdrawal of AfD nomination. Cielquiparle ( talk) 21:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Of the sources you have added, I'm not sure a single one is actually significant coverage of him as an individual. One source is the Court Circular column in the Daily Telegraph which reports he awarded an Tuvalu Order of Merit to Prince William. Another article is about persecution of Ahmadis in Pakistan which name-checks him. I'm not seeing this as meeting WP:BASIC: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." AusLondonder ( talk) 14:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Stephen Barth

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Non-notable lawyer/keynote speaker. Lack WP:GNG-style direct and in-depth coverage. DepreciateAppreciate ( talk) 21:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• I lean toward delete; but I'm wondering if his textbook "has made a significant impact in the area of higher education" per WP:NACADEMIC #4 (although the discussion under that bullet point suggest that meeting notability through that path requires "several books that are widely used as textbooks"). This is an area of academic law not within my experience, so I will refrain from an actual !vote. TJRC ( talk) 00:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete. We are thankful to the kamikaze account who created and posted up this text, just as we're thankful to Mr Barth himself for supplying his photographic portrait. If only the text could be worthy of inclusion! It is not, due to our subject's notable lack of independent notability. We check the article and we search for sources but, alas, nothing of substance do we manage to scare up. All we catch are routine listings in trade media, such as this; online brochures, such as this; a bunch of expired links, e.g. here, here, here; and a few advertorials. And WP:NACADEMIC is spectacularly failed. - The Gnome ( talk) 14:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Michael Lahyani

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Contested draftification (essentially copy/pasted back from Draft:Michael Lahyani). Borderline A7/G11 IMO, no real coverage beyond the standard SPIP. Alpha3031 ( t • c) 14:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keller Rinaudo Cliffton

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The article has many issues for a BLP and feels like a WP:SPIP. The article already has a resume-like alert and the puffery alert (which is dated from 2021).

I would also argue that on the notability of this subject. This person's notability is not inherented to them by association with their company. The company is notable and has high quality representation in Wikipedia.

There are also a number of details that are not cited in this article and our major issue for BLP. Many of the citations also do not match facts in the source (example: cite in personal life). One source is just "Department of Construction Management & Civil Engineering" without any sort of information to detail whether this source is a publication, a website, etc.

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• Drive-by comment (no considered view on notability one way or the other): redirection to Zipline (drone delivery company) is surely a viable alternative to deletion. – Tera tix ₵ 13:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Bernard Mariette

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Only 2 articles link to this. Does not appear to meet WP:BIO. Sources confirm he's been a CEO but lacking WP:SIGCOV. LibStar ( talk) 05:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep - a simple Proquest search for ""Bernard Mariette" yields a lot of international results over the last two decades. Was there a WP:BEFORE? Nfitz ( talk) 16:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply