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For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor. In particular, please note that the Arab-Israeli conflict rulings include restrictions on editors without 30 days tenure and 500 edits.One thing that has come up a few times with newer editors is that they come across some protected pages that they cannot edit and then assume if they can edit, it is allowed. I suppose we can't cover all eventualities but you can sort of see how this one might happen. If going back to Arbcom is a problem, then let's just have a text outside the blue box that makes things clear. I am quite happy to use anything you think works. Selfstudier ( talk) 12:32, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Gamed? Selfstudier ( talk) 08:55, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello Zero0000, thank you for the note. I will make myself aware if edits deserve to be categorised as minor or trivial, or else. Thanks for sensitising me! Best wishes Ulf Heinsohn ( talk) 21:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi, I was curious about your comment on the RSN that JStor cites CounterPunch over 1000 times.
Do you mind if I ask how you can search citations on JStor, rather than mentions of the word "counterpunch"? Thanks!
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Many citations of CounterPunch do not give a url. They give a date, or just the month. That is reasonable since urls decay. So restricting searches to www.counterpunch.org is not correct. A search for (("www.counterpunch.org") OR ("counterpunch.org") OR ("CounterPunch")) gives 1,413 hits. Obviously I didn't look at them all, but I looked at a random sample to see how many were using "CounterPunch" for something other than a citation and judged it was less than 1/4 of the total. Apparently I underestimated those, especially references to boxing. Now I did it more systematically. I looked at every 25th hit and counted how many were mentions of CounterPunch. I got 34 out of 55 with 2 uncertain. So that gives the estimate 873 of articles which reference CounterPunch. As well as the statistical error, there are two additional issues: (1) Some mentions of CounterPunch are not really citations, (2) Many of the articles that cite CounterPunch do so multiple times. Clearly these work in opposite directions if one wants to count citations. So I looked at the full text of the first hit on pages 5,10,...,50 which showed a mention of CP and found that 8 of them had actual citations rather than other sorts of mentions, and the total number of citations was 10. In summary, my best estimate is that 700 articles cite CounterPunch a total of 870 times. I'll edit RSN. Zero talk 01:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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in Phabricator if you have objections.Hi, Zero0000. I don't want to be caught offending again, nor trespassing my imposed topic ban in the Israel/Palestine area of conflict, otherwise known as the ARPBIA, until such time that I am able to submit an appeal asking to rescind my topic ban, with a reassured commitment to good editing on Wikipedia, and with full compliance to Wikipedia's policies. Meanwhile, my question to you is this: Can I still make edits on pages that do not carry the ARPBIA tag, and am careful not to mention anything politically or ideologically connected to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? For example, mentioning the names of flora that grow in Palestine? Please advise. Davidbena ( talk) 13:43, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
About the Talmud and Jerusalem Talmud articles, I would like to inform you that the term "palestinian" should not be used there. As you said "..a very common alternative name even in modern scholarship and there is no reason to censor it" it is used for political reasons, and not historic ones. Only recently some researchers started using it. Moreover, the term "Jewish Palestinian Aramaic" is a complete Joke, it was never used and it is still not in use. Someone added it in order to alienate this language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by עצם בלתי מזוהה ( talk • contribs) 02:37, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I also disagree with the term Palestinian Talmud: wasn’t it judea in those days? Only from 1900 was the prefix Palestinian being used, until then it was exclusively Jerusalem. Check this: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Palestinian+Talmud%2CJerusalem+Talmud&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 02:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Enjoy! Huldra ( talk) 22:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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Your edit: (reduce excessive coords precision) I am curious what are the guidelines for coordinate precision? is there a relevant wikipage? Loew Galitz ( talk) 17:05, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Prior to the massacre in Bnei Brack today Mar 29.22, Nehemia Shtrasler wrote in the hate site "paper" Haaretz (which for some reason is considered a RS here on wiki) against the ultra orthodox Haredim that (overwhelmingly refused and ) don't serve in the army and proposed, asked what would have happened if instead of soldiers, there were Yeshiva students at the terror scenes. MK Moshe Abutbul: Hopefully now Nehemiah Shtrasler has calmed down [3] Say Nehemiah Sthrasler, an attack with four dead in the ultra-Orthodox city of Bnei Brak is enough or do we need something in Mea Shearim as well? [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] Truth3v3r ( talk) 03:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
You may note my latest editing of the article. I suppose the colonel’s memoirs might be classed as Original Research, as might my own contributions, as I was actually present that night as a rifleman in ‘A’ Company, though not positioned close enough to hear the pipes. But in the second half of the tour, I was billeted beside the Pipes and Drums, and I never heard any questioning of the story, either then or later, working as a reporter in Edinburgh. Valetude ( talk) 10:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Wait some more on this? Ping some people? Just do it? Selfstudier ( talk) 11:40, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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Whoops, looks like I accidentally posted the name of my underground downtempo/grindcore band. Thanks for catching that! 😬 Drsmoo ( talk) 03:00, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
I disagree with your edit there -- it was a flag legally decreed FOR USE AT SEA. It had no particular status ON LAND. AnonMoos ( talk) 22:27, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi Zero! I think you might mean "DS-aware" instead of "DS-alert" toward the end of your statement. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 14:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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Afore I go getting myself into trouble, is there a consensus anywhere about the use of the terms "First Temple period" and "Second Temple period". I know what they mean now but I would have thought your average reader wouldn't really understand them. They might not understand "Persian period" or "late Roman" either but still, more chance with those than the other? Selfstudier ( talk) 17:58, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hey, I'm looking for the Wikipedia rule that says we should use West Bank instead of Judea and Samaria, do you have a link to it? Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 07:04, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Amazing the number of intellectual man-hours spent on 4 words…could have been spent finding a cure for cancer…. Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 03:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey Zero0000. I've begun working on al-Aqsa Mosque again. Pringle's The Churches of the Crusader Kingdom ... Vol 3 presents a pretty comprehensive and detailed history of the building, but there are several pages which I am unable to access by GBooks preview. Do you happen to have full access to this source? The pages I am looking for are 417, 421, 424, 427, 430-431 and 433. @ Huldra: Same message. For some reason I remember, or misremember, that Zero or yourself had access to this book. If not, my apologies. -- Al Ameer ( talk) 16:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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.See RSN, seems that it is.[ Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Is thetorah.com a reliable source] Doug Weller talk 08:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
In January this year you uploaded an image of a memorandum published in the August 26 1840 issue of The Times headed RESTORATION OF THE JEWS. The file's title is RestorationJewsTimes1840. Perhaps you or I could change that to Restoration of the Jews Memorandum 1840 (assuming the year is accurate) or RESTORATION OF THE JEWS MEMORANDUM 1840. Mcljlm ( talk) 03:57, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
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consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.Since you seem to be so proficient at unearthing buried treasures, here's a "Mission Impossible" for you. At
Backslash#History, we've been trying to find out when the \
mark first appeared. But more usefully, why did the Teletype Corporation (at the request of the US Armed Forces?) "invent" it? what was its purpose? It must have been significant enough to merit its own key on the keyboard. Intriguing, don't you think?
One to file away to look at on a rainy day sometime maybe. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 10:55, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Please avoid BLP violation as you did here. You were previously warned here. Expressing your opinion is OK as long as it does not violate WP:BLP. Infinity Knight ( talk) 13:11, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
This link has serious allegations about subject; should we summarize this someplace in the article?. Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page. Infinity Knight ( talk) 12:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Reads like an admission of consciously challenging BLP boundaries while carefully choosing you vocabulary. That's the root of the matter. Infinity Knight ( talk) 15:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
A graceful edit comment had to be removed 🤷 Infinity Knight ( talk) 08:02, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
I guarantee this is going to be cited as another "warning" one day lol. nableezy - 16:44, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Time does not heal on Truk . . shortly after the American occupation of the atoll at the end of World War 11 . . A villager arrived out of breath at the military government headquarters. He said that a murder had been committed in the village and that the murderer was running around loose. Quite naturally the military government officer became alarmed. He was about to dispatch M.P.s to arrest the culprit when he remembered that someone had warned him about acting precipitously when dealing with 'natives'. A little inquiry turned up the fact that the victimn had been "fooling around" with the murderer's wife. Still more inquiry of a routine type, designed to establish the date and place of the crime, revealed that the murder had not occurred a few hours or even days ago as one might expect, but seventeen years before. Edward T. Hall, The Silent Language 1959 Premier Books ed.1961 p.26.
I was just going through the {{Jewish villages depopulated during the 1929 Palestine riots}} template and found that a while back you removed the template from Kfar Uria, although you left the page in the template. Your edit comment then was "this box is not justified in the text". I found the text even then to be pretty clear that the village was burnt down in 1929, and only rebuilt in 1945. Perhaps you were confused by the fact that some of the Jewish farmers continued to work the fields there -- the text is not completely clear that they lived elsewhere and would only return to the site to work the fields but not to sleep there. Inasmuch as there were no inhabitable buildings on the site between 1929 and 1945, and no one actually lived there, I find its inclusion as a village that was depopulated in 1929 to be entirely correct and proper.
I was BOLD and reverted your edit, and I am starting this discussion here on your Talk page to see if I/we need to do something else to retain consensus. Respectfully, -- Eliyahu S Talk 11:00, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Re this article would you consider this study as a reliable source? Selfstudier ( talk) 19:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Are we supposed to use these new awareness templates as of now? Per Wikipedia:Contentious topics#Awareness of contentious topics. Selfstudier ( talk) 15:12, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Great job on the image, but I saw now that the two images below it have the same inaccuracy, could you fix them? Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 21:12, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
The "Black Death" is not mentioned in any part of the text, which I completely read. You can see it for yourself: https://brill.com/view/journals/jesh/65/4/article-p497_1.xml Mercresis ( talk) 12:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Recent studies see a direct connection between the fast Ottoman military advance and the consequences of the Black Death from the mid-fourteenth century onwards. They emphasize that Byzantine territories, where the initial Ottoman conquests were carried out, were exhausted (both demographically and militarily) due to the plague outbreaks, which facilitated the Ottoman expansion." It is almost the same as our article had. Please put it back. Zero talk 13:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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If you revert an edit, can you give a reason? Eg hulks edit on jerusalem talmud
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk • contribs)
I am going to copy Lebanon, South Africa and Brittany off to the talk page. Probably the Channel Islands too. All of them have the problem you mentioned about Palestine, ie possibly some wannabes, but I don't really see sourced *collaboration* yet, although I think it is there to be found . But it will be petty, so whereas when I first came to the article the weight seemed undue towards eastern Europe, very light on North Africa, it now seems to have gone somewhat too far in the other direction. And Japan, I am not even sure what to say. Too steep a learning curve, which is what I thought of Irgun.
I am going to do one more pass to try to reference what is there in Europe -- I have already done several passes on all three continents -- then start from the other end, looking for highly-cited work that may not be included. Does that sound like a good plan? It's impolite of course to ask people what exactly their level of expertise and areas of knowledge are, but in this very fraught instance I'm just going to say that you seem to have some topic knowledge, probably broader and deeper than mine, and definitely much much more so in the middle east. So I humbly ask that to the extent you can, please do continue to review what we're doing and let us know if we're citing discredited authors or anything else that would be embarrassing. I have no particular agenda to prove anything in the area, except that I know more about Vichy France than the rest of it due to my educational history. But I am not a historian.
I feel like I am treading on dangerous ground, but the article does desperately need improvement, and I have done big messy cleanups before. So...I will not ping you more than I have to, but I'm about to write some more questions on the talk page and should you feel so moved, your attention there would be welcome. Oh, and if you are interested, there is a question at RSN about the Blue Police, but it's had a couple of answers, so as I sometimes say, don't spend more time on this than you want to. Thanks Elinruby ( talk) 01:08, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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In this, I think you want to use {{ u}}. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
I agree with your statement on ArbCom. Also it's worth noting what USHMM is actually saying former Soviet prisoners of war (POWs) of various nationalities or Ukrainian and Polish civilians
, it doesn't determine their ethnicity, only the fact that before 1939 they were citizens of Poland, so most likely west Ukrainians. Ukrainian civilians refer probably to the Ukrainian SSR citizens in its pre-1939 borders
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Thank you for your ArbCom explanation about my edit (a very long time ago). It felt odd to be named in the first place, and it's very pleasant that you straightened things out. To the point, I'd like to draw your attention to my comment on the same page:
@Horse Eye's Back: Thanks for the mention of my counter-disruptive efforts three years ago. Such work is rarely acknowledged and so I appreciate it. For the same reason that you swam away from that one issue then, I am almost totally retired from Wikipedia now. But let me be clear, this is definitely not simply a case of zealous 'nationalists' versus the noble souls who crusade against them. The zealous 'crusaders' are sometimes so convinced of their own virtue that they assume bad faith in content when there is no such thing, and go ahead and disrupt the topic area based on their own projections of malice. A notorious case was Icewhiz, another case was Varsovian, both AFAIR indefinitely blocked or permanently banned from the topic area. At times, IMHO SlimVirgin was one of those problematic crusaders too. Wikipedia policy and guidelines already got it right long ago, that it takes two to tango. Many trolls have their opposite number, with which they exchange bait. Personal psychology becomes relevant because that dynamic becomes an addiction to conflict, with the impossible objective of winning. Btw I entirely concur with you about Piotrus and hereby vouch for him too. -Chumchum7 (talk) 06:53, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Please keep up the good work. Many thanks, - Chumchum7 ( talk) 08:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
I've been reading quite a bit lately about the police system in occupied Poland, so I have some knowledge on the subject. There were two formations in the German formations called the Gendarmerie: Gendarmerie des Reiches (essentially uniformed police serving in villages and small towns, part of the Orpo) and the Feldgendarmerie, which was essentially Military Police within the Wehrmacht. So the gendarmes may have been part of the Wehrmacht.
The second issue is the participation of Poles. Poles were generally not allowed to serve in the German police or the Wehrmacht. Volksdeutsche could not do so either. Volksdeutsche could serve in the Sonderdienst (created, however, only in May 1940) or in the Hilfspolizei; only after good service did they receive Reichsdeutsche status and the right to serve in the regular police force. Ethnic Poles had this path closed. The conscription of Volksdeutsche to the Wehrmacht began on a massive scale only in 1942, before that it was sporadic.
It is very possible that those in reference ("were all born in Poland") were Polish Germans who left Poland for Germany before 1939 and returned with the army (this was quite common) or members of the Volksdeutscher Selbstschutz, an organization composed of Germans living in Poland responsible for horrific crimes. It is also possible that by "gendarme" this witness meant any uniformed German who was not a Wehrmacht soldier (and the Gendarmerie des Reiches was the formation that Poles encountered most often). (pinging @ Ealdgyth, because I comment on it on her talk page before making more reading) Marcelus ( talk) 12:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for saying that, because that is what I was trying for. However, the link did not go where I expected. This is likely my fault, as I recognize the link as something I had in my sandbox. Let me get you the correct link. Assuming I understand your point. [ here]. Elinruby ( talk) 08:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
maybe. We're talking about the RSN thread on the Blue Police and the question of whether the source supported the "death" statement, right? it's in archive 398 and the title of the thread is "The Blue Police in Poland" Elinruby ( talk) 08:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
ok, well at least we're talking about the same thing.
For now, I guess disregard my comment about the link, and I'll come back and tell you where I go if it's still doing it after I reboot. Or open an OTRS or something.
So back to the main point: thank you for saying that, because that was my point. The main one, anyway. This is what I was trying to send when I had an edit conflict: I for one am pretty traumatized by the war in Ukraine articles. Do not want to go through a 17th or 18th iteration of that, especially if I can't talk about it and have to AGF all over again. If you're asking about *my* last post, the answer is both. I am trying to be fair while retaining all the shades of grey.
(The next day) the link you give above with the displaytext "this link" is correct, and goes to the correct section of archive 398.
The one in your question to me at ArbCom goes to the top of archive 375, as verified by the url. I don't mean to bludgeon you about this, but if you think that the RSN thread about the Blue Police is a model discussion of content, then I am very gratified as its author and would like to see this (IMHO) very important point given the proper weight by arbitrators, which is more likely if the link goes to the discussion you are describing. Thanks for your attention to this Elinruby ( talk) 05:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
I have recently blanked the portion of your evidence submission that was not moved to analysis. Having read it a couple of times it seems far more like analysis than evidence, including the fact that it was directed towards other editors rather than arbitrators. You would be welcome to post any/all of the content that was there at an existing analysis section (or if no section has been created, new). Please let me know if you have any questions about this or what we're looking for in evidence/analysis. Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
User talk:Zero0000/GK. Interesting analysis. It may be worth pointing out my edit is all the way back from 2009... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:33, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Regarding
It is missing 2 pages after p. 127, that is pp 128-129.
Those two pages are about Deir Qal’a and Rafat, Salfit; you wouldn't happen to have access to them? Cheers, Huldra ( talk) 23:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
You protected this page, and the article, in June 2014 following oversight actions on both. Do you believe continued protection of the talk page is warranted? 67.180.143.89 ( talk) 23:31, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
I see that you also protected Talk:Gilo in December 2019 after an oversight action. Can that be lifted? 67.180.143.89 ( talk) 16:21, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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Not related to the A-dramu, just some regular research I am quite happy with and I think you may enjoy reading at some point: User_talk:HaeB#Regular_sciency_business. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
In your recent post at analysis, "07:37 next day" diff is broken. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:23, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hey, do you have access to this full article? https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-10-14/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/documents-confirm-israelis-poisoned-arab-wells-in-1948/00000183-d2b2-d8cc-afc7-fefed64d0000 Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 19:11, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hello Zero0000. I am the declared COI editor for Nefesh B'Nefesh. I've seen your editing on Israel and Jewish-related content on Wikipedia, and would appreciate your help with the publication of this article for Rabbi Yehoshua Fass, the founder of Nefesh B'Nefesh. In 2021, a discussion about a previous draft resulted in a redirect. This new draft is significantly expanded and reflects the extensive coverage Rabbi Fass has garnered over the years. I'd be grateful for your assistance and input in creating an independent article for Rabbi Fass. Thank you LA for NBN ( talk) 10:09, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hey Zero0000 It seems you reverted my revision claiming that since Paul=small and Saul=asked for, that Paul did change his name This is somewhat irrelevant. It was common practice in that era for people to have two names, one which was their Hebrew given name and then another name that sounded more "greek". These were frequently very similar in phonetics, but not in meaning.
Saul never claimed to change his name, in fact he frequently used both names interchangeably. When the bible does reference the two names, they never claim a change of names. They claim that he uses both names. This is a fairly common bit of biblical mythology. I'll add a similar line to the talk page of Persecution of Christians https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/no-saul-the-persecutor-did-not-become-paul-the-apostle/ PuckSR ( talk) 14:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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My comments on the talk page related to the article, not to the topic itself in general.
Furthermore, they cited key legal documents and provisions. Consideration of such documents and analysis were constructive criticism of the subject area I identified in the article, which were offered to improve the article.
Ultimately, we must be mindful that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that must tell the truth and be as factual as possible, even when, (and especially when) the truth and facts may not be popular.
You and other editors should not revert unless the edits are disruptive. Disruptive comments should not include those that are well supported by relevant legal documentation and analysis.
Actions to revert a page should require a strong showing and effectuated only with due consideration and restraint.
The talk page drives and shapes discourse relating to the article, which may lead to edits to improve the article. These improvements redound to the benefit of the public and of democracy itself.
Where as here, reverting talk on the page I made in good faith and which pertained to key issues relating to the article, stultifies discourse. Such actions lead to legitimate claims of censorship, which violates Wikipedia's policy.
You also failed to notify me that you reverted the page. The best policy is, if you have a concern, to discuss it with me first before taking action. If we have a disagreement, we can mutually agree to seek the opinion of a neutral third party.
I think such an approach respects both the process and the persons involved. Biolitblue ( talk) 03:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi. Not sure I was very helpful there. I wish I can be of some help. On a different level: what would really constitute friendly help here? Anyone who is so personally involved in this huge tragedy should be helped to take a break from it - in real life. Wiki comes next. Apparently being glued to the screens can produce more PTSD and depression than facing some of the horrible things happening there in person. If we don't manage to help him out of the ban, it might turn out to be a blessing in disguise. But then again, a) he must know it, and b) his editing, the stress involved, and the additional time it keeps him stuck in this unending hell is probably the least of his stress factors right now. Try to help him on a different level if you can, maybe ask Nishidani to write to him as well. It's far too much for me too. Thanks, Arminden ( talk) 23:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Do you think a 1986 article in Shomron Studies is reliable for claiming the ethnic history of people across Palestine? nableezy - 17:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much :) Albertatiran ( talk) 17:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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On Relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab world I created a talk page topic about a edit you reverted related to Kurds and Nuremberg laws Bobisland ( talk) 05:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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I'm writing on behalf of the IP Server who started to edit at "British currency in the Middle East" on 29th March this year. The editor suddenly found the IP server range blocked, while being accused of being a blocked editor called TheCurrencyGuy. The editor at the IP server categorically denies being TheCurrencyGuy, doesn't know TheCurrencyGuy, and has never interacted with him. Meanwhile, a editor called JMF has been on the talk page at "British currency in the Middle East" stating that at least some of the recent edits were definitely done by TheCurrencyGuy. Well, so he says, but not one of the edits carried out by the blocked IP server since 29th March was done by TheCurrencyGuy, and it doesn't appear that anybody else edited during that period. It would be interesting to see what JMF's evidence is, but meanwhile he has reverted all the hard work and careful research that was carried out since 29th March. The article is now in an inferior state with many factual inaccuracies that had been corrected by the blocked IP server. 77.99.242.50 ( talk) 09:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
An account cannot be created until it is acknowledged that the blocked IP server is not a sockpuppet of TheCurrencyGuy. Meanwhile, the editor using the blocked IP server categorically denies the accusation, and says that this is the only important issue at the moment. Can you please help to have the investigation re-visited. The blocked IP editor has checked the editing history of TheCurrencyGuy to see what the alleged similarities are, and has noted that TheCurrencyGuy began his editing days by correcting the format of a foreign currency on some article, and then over time did likewise with many other currency units, and his focus seemed to be on spelling and formatting. The blocked IP server would like to point out that this style has got nothing in common with matters relating to the history of currency in the Middle East. If you can get the IP server unblocked, then the editor will be able to discuss the matter with you directly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.242.50 ( talk) 20:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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We need to attribute in text when we use it. Removing attribution, as you've done in a number of articles, goes against the community consensus.
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Hello Zero0000, thank you for the note. I will make myself aware if edits deserve to be categorised as minor or trivial, or else. Thanks for sensitising me! Best wishes Ulf Heinsohn ( talk) 21:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi, I was curious about your comment on the RSN that JStor cites CounterPunch over 1000 times.
Do you mind if I ask how you can search citations on JStor, rather than mentions of the word "counterpunch"? Thanks!
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Many citations of CounterPunch do not give a url. They give a date, or just the month. That is reasonable since urls decay. So restricting searches to www.counterpunch.org is not correct. A search for (("www.counterpunch.org") OR ("counterpunch.org") OR ("CounterPunch")) gives 1,413 hits. Obviously I didn't look at them all, but I looked at a random sample to see how many were using "CounterPunch" for something other than a citation and judged it was less than 1/4 of the total. Apparently I underestimated those, especially references to boxing. Now I did it more systematically. I looked at every 25th hit and counted how many were mentions of CounterPunch. I got 34 out of 55 with 2 uncertain. So that gives the estimate 873 of articles which reference CounterPunch. As well as the statistical error, there are two additional issues: (1) Some mentions of CounterPunch are not really citations, (2) Many of the articles that cite CounterPunch do so multiple times. Clearly these work in opposite directions if one wants to count citations. So I looked at the full text of the first hit on pages 5,10,...,50 which showed a mention of CP and found that 8 of them had actual citations rather than other sorts of mentions, and the total number of citations was 10. In summary, my best estimate is that 700 articles cite CounterPunch a total of 870 times. I'll edit RSN. Zero talk 01:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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in Phabricator if you have objections.Hi, Zero0000. I don't want to be caught offending again, nor trespassing my imposed topic ban in the Israel/Palestine area of conflict, otherwise known as the ARPBIA, until such time that I am able to submit an appeal asking to rescind my topic ban, with a reassured commitment to good editing on Wikipedia, and with full compliance to Wikipedia's policies. Meanwhile, my question to you is this: Can I still make edits on pages that do not carry the ARPBIA tag, and am careful not to mention anything politically or ideologically connected to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? For example, mentioning the names of flora that grow in Palestine? Please advise. Davidbena ( talk) 13:43, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
About the Talmud and Jerusalem Talmud articles, I would like to inform you that the term "palestinian" should not be used there. As you said "..a very common alternative name even in modern scholarship and there is no reason to censor it" it is used for political reasons, and not historic ones. Only recently some researchers started using it. Moreover, the term "Jewish Palestinian Aramaic" is a complete Joke, it was never used and it is still not in use. Someone added it in order to alienate this language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by עצם בלתי מזוהה ( talk • contribs) 02:37, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I also disagree with the term Palestinian Talmud: wasn’t it judea in those days? Only from 1900 was the prefix Palestinian being used, until then it was exclusively Jerusalem. Check this: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Palestinian+Talmud%2CJerusalem+Talmud&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 02:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Your edit: (reduce excessive coords precision) I am curious what are the guidelines for coordinate precision? is there a relevant wikipage? Loew Galitz ( talk) 17:05, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Prior to the massacre in Bnei Brack today Mar 29.22, Nehemia Shtrasler wrote in the hate site "paper" Haaretz (which for some reason is considered a RS here on wiki) against the ultra orthodox Haredim that (overwhelmingly refused and ) don't serve in the army and proposed, asked what would have happened if instead of soldiers, there were Yeshiva students at the terror scenes. MK Moshe Abutbul: Hopefully now Nehemiah Shtrasler has calmed down [3] Say Nehemiah Sthrasler, an attack with four dead in the ultra-Orthodox city of Bnei Brak is enough or do we need something in Mea Shearim as well? [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] Truth3v3r ( talk) 03:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
You may note my latest editing of the article. I suppose the colonel’s memoirs might be classed as Original Research, as might my own contributions, as I was actually present that night as a rifleman in ‘A’ Company, though not positioned close enough to hear the pipes. But in the second half of the tour, I was billeted beside the Pipes and Drums, and I never heard any questioning of the story, either then or later, working as a reporter in Edinburgh. Valetude ( talk) 10:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Wait some more on this? Ping some people? Just do it? Selfstudier ( talk) 11:40, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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Whoops, looks like I accidentally posted the name of my underground downtempo/grindcore band. Thanks for catching that! 😬 Drsmoo ( talk) 03:00, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
I disagree with your edit there -- it was a flag legally decreed FOR USE AT SEA. It had no particular status ON LAND. AnonMoos ( talk) 22:27, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi Zero! I think you might mean "DS-aware" instead of "DS-alert" toward the end of your statement. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 14:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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Afore I go getting myself into trouble, is there a consensus anywhere about the use of the terms "First Temple period" and "Second Temple period". I know what they mean now but I would have thought your average reader wouldn't really understand them. They might not understand "Persian period" or "late Roman" either but still, more chance with those than the other? Selfstudier ( talk) 17:58, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hey, I'm looking for the Wikipedia rule that says we should use West Bank instead of Judea and Samaria, do you have a link to it? Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 07:04, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Amazing the number of intellectual man-hours spent on 4 words…could have been spent finding a cure for cancer…. Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk) 03:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey Zero0000. I've begun working on al-Aqsa Mosque again. Pringle's The Churches of the Crusader Kingdom ... Vol 3 presents a pretty comprehensive and detailed history of the building, but there are several pages which I am unable to access by GBooks preview. Do you happen to have full access to this source? The pages I am looking for are 417, 421, 424, 427, 430-431 and 433. @ Huldra: Same message. For some reason I remember, or misremember, that Zero or yourself had access to this book. If not, my apologies. -- Al Ameer ( talk) 16:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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.See RSN, seems that it is.[ Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Is thetorah.com a reliable source] Doug Weller talk 08:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
In January this year you uploaded an image of a memorandum published in the August 26 1840 issue of The Times headed RESTORATION OF THE JEWS. The file's title is RestorationJewsTimes1840. Perhaps you or I could change that to Restoration of the Jews Memorandum 1840 (assuming the year is accurate) or RESTORATION OF THE JEWS MEMORANDUM 1840. Mcljlm ( talk) 03:57, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
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Backslash#History, we've been trying to find out when the \
mark first appeared. But more usefully, why did the Teletype Corporation (at the request of the US Armed Forces?) "invent" it? what was its purpose? It must have been significant enough to merit its own key on the keyboard. Intriguing, don't you think?
One to file away to look at on a rainy day sometime maybe. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 10:55, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Please avoid BLP violation as you did here. You were previously warned here. Expressing your opinion is OK as long as it does not violate WP:BLP. Infinity Knight ( talk) 13:11, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
This link has serious allegations about subject; should we summarize this someplace in the article?. Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page. Infinity Knight ( talk) 12:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Reads like an admission of consciously challenging BLP boundaries while carefully choosing you vocabulary. That's the root of the matter. Infinity Knight ( talk) 15:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
A graceful edit comment had to be removed 🤷 Infinity Knight ( talk) 08:02, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
I guarantee this is going to be cited as another "warning" one day lol. nableezy - 16:44, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Time does not heal on Truk . . shortly after the American occupation of the atoll at the end of World War 11 . . A villager arrived out of breath at the military government headquarters. He said that a murder had been committed in the village and that the murderer was running around loose. Quite naturally the military government officer became alarmed. He was about to dispatch M.P.s to arrest the culprit when he remembered that someone had warned him about acting precipitously when dealing with 'natives'. A little inquiry turned up the fact that the victimn had been "fooling around" with the murderer's wife. Still more inquiry of a routine type, designed to establish the date and place of the crime, revealed that the murder had not occurred a few hours or even days ago as one might expect, but seventeen years before. Edward T. Hall, The Silent Language 1959 Premier Books ed.1961 p.26.
I was just going through the {{Jewish villages depopulated during the 1929 Palestine riots}} template and found that a while back you removed the template from Kfar Uria, although you left the page in the template. Your edit comment then was "this box is not justified in the text". I found the text even then to be pretty clear that the village was burnt down in 1929, and only rebuilt in 1945. Perhaps you were confused by the fact that some of the Jewish farmers continued to work the fields there -- the text is not completely clear that they lived elsewhere and would only return to the site to work the fields but not to sleep there. Inasmuch as there were no inhabitable buildings on the site between 1929 and 1945, and no one actually lived there, I find its inclusion as a village that was depopulated in 1929 to be entirely correct and proper.
I was BOLD and reverted your edit, and I am starting this discussion here on your Talk page to see if I/we need to do something else to retain consensus. Respectfully, -- Eliyahu S Talk 11:00, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Re this article would you consider this study as a reliable source? Selfstudier ( talk) 19:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Are we supposed to use these new awareness templates as of now? Per Wikipedia:Contentious topics#Awareness of contentious topics. Selfstudier ( talk) 15:12, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Great job on the image, but I saw now that the two images below it have the same inaccuracy, could you fix them? Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 21:12, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
The "Black Death" is not mentioned in any part of the text, which I completely read. You can see it for yourself: https://brill.com/view/journals/jesh/65/4/article-p497_1.xml Mercresis ( talk) 12:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Recent studies see a direct connection between the fast Ottoman military advance and the consequences of the Black Death from the mid-fourteenth century onwards. They emphasize that Byzantine territories, where the initial Ottoman conquests were carried out, were exhausted (both demographically and militarily) due to the plague outbreaks, which facilitated the Ottoman expansion." It is almost the same as our article had. Please put it back. Zero talk 13:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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If you revert an edit, can you give a reason? Eg hulks edit on jerusalem talmud
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riskit 4 a biskit ( talk • contribs)
I am going to copy Lebanon, South Africa and Brittany off to the talk page. Probably the Channel Islands too. All of them have the problem you mentioned about Palestine, ie possibly some wannabes, but I don't really see sourced *collaboration* yet, although I think it is there to be found . But it will be petty, so whereas when I first came to the article the weight seemed undue towards eastern Europe, very light on North Africa, it now seems to have gone somewhat too far in the other direction. And Japan, I am not even sure what to say. Too steep a learning curve, which is what I thought of Irgun.
I am going to do one more pass to try to reference what is there in Europe -- I have already done several passes on all three continents -- then start from the other end, looking for highly-cited work that may not be included. Does that sound like a good plan? It's impolite of course to ask people what exactly their level of expertise and areas of knowledge are, but in this very fraught instance I'm just going to say that you seem to have some topic knowledge, probably broader and deeper than mine, and definitely much much more so in the middle east. So I humbly ask that to the extent you can, please do continue to review what we're doing and let us know if we're citing discredited authors or anything else that would be embarrassing. I have no particular agenda to prove anything in the area, except that I know more about Vichy France than the rest of it due to my educational history. But I am not a historian.
I feel like I am treading on dangerous ground, but the article does desperately need improvement, and I have done big messy cleanups before. So...I will not ping you more than I have to, but I'm about to write some more questions on the talk page and should you feel so moved, your attention there would be welcome. Oh, and if you are interested, there is a question at RSN about the Blue Police, but it's had a couple of answers, so as I sometimes say, don't spend more time on this than you want to. Thanks Elinruby ( talk) 01:08, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hello Zero0000,
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In this, I think you want to use {{ u}}. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
I agree with your statement on ArbCom. Also it's worth noting what USHMM is actually saying former Soviet prisoners of war (POWs) of various nationalities or Ukrainian and Polish civilians
, it doesn't determine their ethnicity, only the fact that before 1939 they were citizens of Poland, so most likely west Ukrainians. Ukrainian civilians refer probably to the Ukrainian SSR citizens in its pre-1939 borders
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Thank you for your ArbCom explanation about my edit (a very long time ago). It felt odd to be named in the first place, and it's very pleasant that you straightened things out. To the point, I'd like to draw your attention to my comment on the same page:
@Horse Eye's Back: Thanks for the mention of my counter-disruptive efforts three years ago. Such work is rarely acknowledged and so I appreciate it. For the same reason that you swam away from that one issue then, I am almost totally retired from Wikipedia now. But let me be clear, this is definitely not simply a case of zealous 'nationalists' versus the noble souls who crusade against them. The zealous 'crusaders' are sometimes so convinced of their own virtue that they assume bad faith in content when there is no such thing, and go ahead and disrupt the topic area based on their own projections of malice. A notorious case was Icewhiz, another case was Varsovian, both AFAIR indefinitely blocked or permanently banned from the topic area. At times, IMHO SlimVirgin was one of those problematic crusaders too. Wikipedia policy and guidelines already got it right long ago, that it takes two to tango. Many trolls have their opposite number, with which they exchange bait. Personal psychology becomes relevant because that dynamic becomes an addiction to conflict, with the impossible objective of winning. Btw I entirely concur with you about Piotrus and hereby vouch for him too. -Chumchum7 (talk) 06:53, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Please keep up the good work. Many thanks, - Chumchum7 ( talk) 08:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
I've been reading quite a bit lately about the police system in occupied Poland, so I have some knowledge on the subject. There were two formations in the German formations called the Gendarmerie: Gendarmerie des Reiches (essentially uniformed police serving in villages and small towns, part of the Orpo) and the Feldgendarmerie, which was essentially Military Police within the Wehrmacht. So the gendarmes may have been part of the Wehrmacht.
The second issue is the participation of Poles. Poles were generally not allowed to serve in the German police or the Wehrmacht. Volksdeutsche could not do so either. Volksdeutsche could serve in the Sonderdienst (created, however, only in May 1940) or in the Hilfspolizei; only after good service did they receive Reichsdeutsche status and the right to serve in the regular police force. Ethnic Poles had this path closed. The conscription of Volksdeutsche to the Wehrmacht began on a massive scale only in 1942, before that it was sporadic.
It is very possible that those in reference ("were all born in Poland") were Polish Germans who left Poland for Germany before 1939 and returned with the army (this was quite common) or members of the Volksdeutscher Selbstschutz, an organization composed of Germans living in Poland responsible for horrific crimes. It is also possible that by "gendarme" this witness meant any uniformed German who was not a Wehrmacht soldier (and the Gendarmerie des Reiches was the formation that Poles encountered most often). (pinging @ Ealdgyth, because I comment on it on her talk page before making more reading) Marcelus ( talk) 12:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for saying that, because that is what I was trying for. However, the link did not go where I expected. This is likely my fault, as I recognize the link as something I had in my sandbox. Let me get you the correct link. Assuming I understand your point. [ here]. Elinruby ( talk) 08:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
maybe. We're talking about the RSN thread on the Blue Police and the question of whether the source supported the "death" statement, right? it's in archive 398 and the title of the thread is "The Blue Police in Poland" Elinruby ( talk) 08:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
ok, well at least we're talking about the same thing.
For now, I guess disregard my comment about the link, and I'll come back and tell you where I go if it's still doing it after I reboot. Or open an OTRS or something.
So back to the main point: thank you for saying that, because that was my point. The main one, anyway. This is what I was trying to send when I had an edit conflict: I for one am pretty traumatized by the war in Ukraine articles. Do not want to go through a 17th or 18th iteration of that, especially if I can't talk about it and have to AGF all over again. If you're asking about *my* last post, the answer is both. I am trying to be fair while retaining all the shades of grey.
(The next day) the link you give above with the displaytext "this link" is correct, and goes to the correct section of archive 398.
The one in your question to me at ArbCom goes to the top of archive 375, as verified by the url. I don't mean to bludgeon you about this, but if you think that the RSN thread about the Blue Police is a model discussion of content, then I am very gratified as its author and would like to see this (IMHO) very important point given the proper weight by arbitrators, which is more likely if the link goes to the discussion you are describing. Thanks for your attention to this Elinruby ( talk) 05:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
I have recently blanked the portion of your evidence submission that was not moved to analysis. Having read it a couple of times it seems far more like analysis than evidence, including the fact that it was directed towards other editors rather than arbitrators. You would be welcome to post any/all of the content that was there at an existing analysis section (or if no section has been created, new). Please let me know if you have any questions about this or what we're looking for in evidence/analysis. Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
User talk:Zero0000/GK. Interesting analysis. It may be worth pointing out my edit is all the way back from 2009... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:33, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Regarding
It is missing 2 pages after p. 127, that is pp 128-129.
Those two pages are about Deir Qal’a and Rafat, Salfit; you wouldn't happen to have access to them? Cheers, Huldra ( talk) 23:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
You protected this page, and the article, in June 2014 following oversight actions on both. Do you believe continued protection of the talk page is warranted? 67.180.143.89 ( talk) 23:31, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
I see that you also protected Talk:Gilo in December 2019 after an oversight action. Can that be lifted? 67.180.143.89 ( talk) 16:21, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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Not related to the A-dramu, just some regular research I am quite happy with and I think you may enjoy reading at some point: User_talk:HaeB#Regular_sciency_business. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
In your recent post at analysis, "07:37 next day" diff is broken. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:23, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
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I'm contacting you here for two reasons:
1. I want to directly and unreservedly apologise for for my inappropriate criticism of your motivations. You are completely right, and I'm grateful for your clear explanation of why that is the case.
2. As a non-extended-confirmed editor, I have just realised that I have violated policy by involving myself in discussion in the first place.
As far as I can tell, I have therefore violated two policies. As a relatively inexperienced editor, I'm not sure what to do next. Is there a formal procedure via which I can effectively report myself for policy violations? Foxmilder ( talk) 01:23, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hey Zero0000 It seems you reverted my revision claiming that since Paul=small and Saul=asked for, that Paul did change his name This is somewhat irrelevant. It was common practice in that era for people to have two names, one which was their Hebrew given name and then another name that sounded more "greek". These were frequently very similar in phonetics, but not in meaning.
Saul never claimed to change his name, in fact he frequently used both names interchangeably. When the bible does reference the two names, they never claim a change of names. They claim that he uses both names. This is a fairly common bit of biblical mythology. I'll add a similar line to the talk page of Persecution of Christians https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/no-saul-the-persecutor-did-not-become-paul-the-apostle/ PuckSR ( talk) 14:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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My comments on the talk page related to the article, not to the topic itself in general.
Furthermore, they cited key legal documents and provisions. Consideration of such documents and analysis were constructive criticism of the subject area I identified in the article, which were offered to improve the article.
Ultimately, we must be mindful that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that must tell the truth and be as factual as possible, even when, (and especially when) the truth and facts may not be popular.
You and other editors should not revert unless the edits are disruptive. Disruptive comments should not include those that are well supported by relevant legal documentation and analysis.
Actions to revert a page should require a strong showing and effectuated only with due consideration and restraint.
The talk page drives and shapes discourse relating to the article, which may lead to edits to improve the article. These improvements redound to the benefit of the public and of democracy itself.
Where as here, reverting talk on the page I made in good faith and which pertained to key issues relating to the article, stultifies discourse. Such actions lead to legitimate claims of censorship, which violates Wikipedia's policy.
You also failed to notify me that you reverted the page. The best policy is, if you have a concern, to discuss it with me first before taking action. If we have a disagreement, we can mutually agree to seek the opinion of a neutral third party.
I think such an approach respects both the process and the persons involved. Biolitblue ( talk) 03:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi. Not sure I was very helpful there. I wish I can be of some help. On a different level: what would really constitute friendly help here? Anyone who is so personally involved in this huge tragedy should be helped to take a break from it - in real life. Wiki comes next. Apparently being glued to the screens can produce more PTSD and depression than facing some of the horrible things happening there in person. If we don't manage to help him out of the ban, it might turn out to be a blessing in disguise. But then again, a) he must know it, and b) his editing, the stress involved, and the additional time it keeps him stuck in this unending hell is probably the least of his stress factors right now. Try to help him on a different level if you can, maybe ask Nishidani to write to him as well. It's far too much for me too. Thanks, Arminden ( talk) 23:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Do you think a 1986 article in Shomron Studies is reliable for claiming the ethnic history of people across Palestine? nableezy - 17:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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On Relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab world I created a talk page topic about a edit you reverted related to Kurds and Nuremberg laws Bobisland ( talk) 05:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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I'm writing on behalf of the IP Server who started to edit at "British currency in the Middle East" on 29th March this year. The editor suddenly found the IP server range blocked, while being accused of being a blocked editor called TheCurrencyGuy. The editor at the IP server categorically denies being TheCurrencyGuy, doesn't know TheCurrencyGuy, and has never interacted with him. Meanwhile, a editor called JMF has been on the talk page at "British currency in the Middle East" stating that at least some of the recent edits were definitely done by TheCurrencyGuy. Well, so he says, but not one of the edits carried out by the blocked IP server since 29th March was done by TheCurrencyGuy, and it doesn't appear that anybody else edited during that period. It would be interesting to see what JMF's evidence is, but meanwhile he has reverted all the hard work and careful research that was carried out since 29th March. The article is now in an inferior state with many factual inaccuracies that had been corrected by the blocked IP server. 77.99.242.50 ( talk) 09:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
An account cannot be created until it is acknowledged that the blocked IP server is not a sockpuppet of TheCurrencyGuy. Meanwhile, the editor using the blocked IP server categorically denies the accusation, and says that this is the only important issue at the moment. Can you please help to have the investigation re-visited. The blocked IP editor has checked the editing history of TheCurrencyGuy to see what the alleged similarities are, and has noted that TheCurrencyGuy began his editing days by correcting the format of a foreign currency on some article, and then over time did likewise with many other currency units, and his focus seemed to be on spelling and formatting. The blocked IP server would like to point out that this style has got nothing in common with matters relating to the history of currency in the Middle East. If you can get the IP server unblocked, then the editor will be able to discuss the matter with you directly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.242.50 ( talk) 20:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Please read
WP:RSP on MondoWeiss: Mondoweiss is a news website operated by the Center for Economic Research and Social Change (CERSC), an advocacy organization. There is no consensus on the reliability of Mondoweiss. Editors consider the site biased or opinionated, and its statements should be attributed. It should either not be used at all — or used with great caution — for biographies of living people.
We need to attribute in text when we use it. Removing attribution, as you've done in a number of articles, goes against the community consensus.
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