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| Request name | Motions | Initiated | Votes |
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| Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic | Motions | 10 April 2024 | 0/0/0 |
| Request name | Motions | Case | Posted |
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| Amendment request: Conduct in deletion-related editing | Motion | ( orig. case) | 27 February 2024 |
| Amendment request: Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 | Motion | ( orig. case) | 6 April 2024 |
| Amendment request: Skepticism and coordinated editing | none | ( orig. case) | 16 April 2024 |
No arbitrator motions are currently open.
Use this page to request the committee open an arbitration case. To be accepted, an arbitration request needs 4 net votes to "accept" (or a majority). Arbitration is a last resort. WP:DR lists the other, escalating processes that should be used before arbitration. The committee will decline premature requests. Requests may be referred to as "case requests" or "RFARs"; once opened, they become "cases". Before requesting arbitration, read the arbitration guide. Then click the button below. Complete the instructions quickly; requests incomplete for over an hour may be removed. Consider preparing the request in your userspace. To request enforcement of an existing arbitration ruling, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. To clarify or change an existing arbitration ruling, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. This page is for statements, not discussion.
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Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic
Initiated by Cossde ( talk) at 01:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Proposed parties
- Cossde ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Oz346 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Petextrodon ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- JohnWiki159 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- SinhalaLion ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- UtoD ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
- /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Disputes_over_Sri_Lanka_and_the_Sri_Lankan_Civil_War_are_common
- /info/en/?search=Talk:Sexual_violence_against_Tamils_in_Sri_Lanka#WP:NOTSCANDAL,_WP:FALSEBALANCE_and_summarization
- /info/en/?search=Talk:List_of_attacks_on_civilians_attributed_to_Sri_Lankan_government_forces
- /info/en/?search=Talk:Sri_Lanka_Armed_Forces
Statement by Cossde
I am submitting this request for arbitration due to the on going disruptive editing about Sri Lanka as highlighted by highlighted by Robert McClenon in [6] add Sri Lanka to WP:ARBPAK. There is a clear need to identify Sri Lanka as a contentious topic and authorize administrators engade in Arbitration Enforcement to deal with disruptive editing with sanctions such as topic-bans.
Statement by Oz346
Statement by Petextrodon
Statement by JohnWiki159
Statement by SinhalaLion
Statement by UtoD
Civil wars and ethnic issues certainly warrant contentious categorization and clear guidelines to avoid multi-page edit warring and heavy WP:SOAPBOX editing, is also affecting the quality of Sri Lankan articles. - UtoD 19:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Statement by Robert McClenon (Sri Lanka)
I thank User:Cossde for filing this Request for Arbitration. I filed a Request for Arbitration Amendment about three weeks ago that is still listed as pending, but about to be declined, asking that the contentious topic designation of India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan be expanded to include Sri Lanka, and in particular to include articles and disputes about the Sri Lanka Civil War. Arbitrators had and have doubts about expanding the area of focus to include Sri Lanka, but also seemed favorable to the idea of designating Sri Lanka as a separate contentious topic, either after a case or by motion. I do not see an immediate need for an evidentiary hearing, because the administrators at Arbitration Enforcement can perform the fact-finding to identify which editors are engaging in disruptive editing and topic-ban them.
There was a Sri Lanka Reconciliation WikiProject. Its project page contains the overly optimistic statement that:
This WikiProject has served its stated purpose and is now defunct.
There is still or again a need to limit battleground editing about an island that has tragically been a real battleground, in order to maintain neutral point of view. The most straightforward way to do that is the contentious topics procedure. Robert McClenon ( talk) 19:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Z1720 wrote:
We don't need a full case unless someone posts concerns about specific users.
. I think that there are concerns about specific users, but that those concerns can be dealt with at Arbitration Enforcement. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Z1720 wrote:
Disputes over Sri Lanka and the Sri Lankan Civil War are common
A month ago, I failed a dispute at DRN over an atrocity that was a prelude to the Sri Lankan Civil War:
Declined Arbitration Cases
https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=1159486635#Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam (10 June 2023)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=1158663393#Sri_Lanka_Armed_Forces (5 June 2023)
Archived Disputes at WP:ANI
Archived Disputes at WP:DRN
Statement by {Non-party}
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic: Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0>
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)
- As indicated at ARCA, I do not think this should be folded in with any existing cases, but there does seem to be a strong indication that regular dispute resolution has broken down. I will wait further comment from the community but my initial thinking is that we could designate this topic contentious without need for a full case, unless there is indication that certain parties must be removed from this sphere. Primefac ( talk) 11:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am also open, based on the evidence presented here, to designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic without a full case. Barkeep49 ( talk) 21:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with my colleagues above. Absent any evidence that the conduct of specific parties deserves particular scrutiny I think a CTOP designation by motion would be a sensible solution given that there is clearly a persistent issue in this topic area. firefly ( t · c ) 21:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Sri Lanka motion
This case request is resolved by motion as follows:
Sri Lanka, broadly construed, is designated as a contentious topic.
- Support
- As proposer and per my comments above. Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, this is needed. We don't need a full case unless someone posts concerns about specific users. Z1720 ( talk) 16:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- and lets not do the dummy case thing again -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 18:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Primefac ( talk) 18:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 21:58, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- firefly ( t · c ) 22:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Arbitrator Discussion (motion)
Requests for arbitration Information
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| Request name | Motions | Initiated | Votes |
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| Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic | Motions | 10 April 2024 | 0/0/0 |
| Request name | Motions | Case | Posted |
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| Amendment request: Conduct in deletion-related editing | Motion | ( orig. case) | 27 February 2024 |
| Amendment request: Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 | Motion | ( orig. case) | 6 April 2024 |
| Amendment request: Skepticism and coordinated editing | none | ( orig. case) | 16 April 2024 |
No arbitrator motions are currently open.
Use this page to request the committee open an arbitration case. To be accepted, an arbitration request needs 4 net votes to "accept" (or a majority). Arbitration is a last resort. WP:DR lists the other, escalating processes that should be used before arbitration. The committee will decline premature requests. Requests may be referred to as "case requests" or "RFARs"; once opened, they become "cases". Before requesting arbitration, read the arbitration guide. Then click the button below. Complete the instructions quickly; requests incomplete for over an hour may be removed. Consider preparing the request in your userspace. To request enforcement of an existing arbitration ruling, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. To clarify or change an existing arbitration ruling, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. This page is for statements, not discussion.
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Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic
Initiated by Cossde ( talk) at 01:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Proposed parties
- Cossde ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Oz346 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Petextrodon ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- JohnWiki159 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- SinhalaLion ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- UtoD ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
- /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Disputes_over_Sri_Lanka_and_the_Sri_Lankan_Civil_War_are_common
- /info/en/?search=Talk:Sexual_violence_against_Tamils_in_Sri_Lanka#WP:NOTSCANDAL,_WP:FALSEBALANCE_and_summarization
- /info/en/?search=Talk:List_of_attacks_on_civilians_attributed_to_Sri_Lankan_government_forces
- /info/en/?search=Talk:Sri_Lanka_Armed_Forces
Statement by Cossde
I am submitting this request for arbitration due to the on going disruptive editing about Sri Lanka as highlighted by highlighted by Robert McClenon in [6] add Sri Lanka to WP:ARBPAK. There is a clear need to identify Sri Lanka as a contentious topic and authorize administrators engade in Arbitration Enforcement to deal with disruptive editing with sanctions such as topic-bans.
Statement by Oz346
Statement by Petextrodon
Statement by JohnWiki159
Statement by SinhalaLion
Statement by UtoD
Civil wars and ethnic issues certainly warrant contentious categorization and clear guidelines to avoid multi-page edit warring and heavy WP:SOAPBOX editing, is also affecting the quality of Sri Lankan articles. - UtoD 19:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Statement by Robert McClenon (Sri Lanka)
I thank User:Cossde for filing this Request for Arbitration. I filed a Request for Arbitration Amendment about three weeks ago that is still listed as pending, but about to be declined, asking that the contentious topic designation of India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan be expanded to include Sri Lanka, and in particular to include articles and disputes about the Sri Lanka Civil War. Arbitrators had and have doubts about expanding the area of focus to include Sri Lanka, but also seemed favorable to the idea of designating Sri Lanka as a separate contentious topic, either after a case or by motion. I do not see an immediate need for an evidentiary hearing, because the administrators at Arbitration Enforcement can perform the fact-finding to identify which editors are engaging in disruptive editing and topic-ban them.
There was a Sri Lanka Reconciliation WikiProject. Its project page contains the overly optimistic statement that:
This WikiProject has served its stated purpose and is now defunct.
There is still or again a need to limit battleground editing about an island that has tragically been a real battleground, in order to maintain neutral point of view. The most straightforward way to do that is the contentious topics procedure. Robert McClenon ( talk) 19:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Z1720 wrote:
We don't need a full case unless someone posts concerns about specific users.
. I think that there are concerns about specific users, but that those concerns can be dealt with at Arbitration Enforcement. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Z1720 wrote:
Disputes over Sri Lanka and the Sri Lankan Civil War are common
A month ago, I failed a dispute at DRN over an atrocity that was a prelude to the Sri Lankan Civil War:
Declined Arbitration Cases
https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=1159486635#Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam (10 June 2023)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=1158663393#Sri_Lanka_Armed_Forces (5 June 2023)
Archived Disputes at WP:ANI
Archived Disputes at WP:DRN
Statement by {Non-party}
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic: Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
Designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0>
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)
- As indicated at ARCA, I do not think this should be folded in with any existing cases, but there does seem to be a strong indication that regular dispute resolution has broken down. I will wait further comment from the community but my initial thinking is that we could designate this topic contentious without need for a full case, unless there is indication that certain parties must be removed from this sphere. Primefac ( talk) 11:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am also open, based on the evidence presented here, to designating Sri Lanka as a contentious topic without a full case. Barkeep49 ( talk) 21:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with my colleagues above. Absent any evidence that the conduct of specific parties deserves particular scrutiny I think a CTOP designation by motion would be a sensible solution given that there is clearly a persistent issue in this topic area. firefly ( t · c ) 21:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Sri Lanka motion
This case request is resolved by motion as follows:
Sri Lanka, broadly construed, is designated as a contentious topic.
- Support
- As proposer and per my comments above. Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, this is needed. We don't need a full case unless someone posts concerns about specific users. Z1720 ( talk) 16:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- and lets not do the dummy case thing again -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 18:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Primefac ( talk) 18:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 21:58, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- firefly ( t · c ) 22:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Arbitrator Discussion (motion)