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Dillanos Coffee Roasters

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Fails WP:NCORP with no independent coverage. Sources are promotional interviews, press releases, and a non-notable award. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 20:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Speedy is off the table given the time passed since nomination. There is nothing extant to redirect this to, however if a target is created, this can be redirected at editorial discretion. Star Mississippi 02:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Elias Huizar

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A defamatory article based on WP:OR with a non-free image improperly labeled as such and a subject that fails WP:GNG. Lettlre ( talk) 19:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Speedy Delete/Convert - I feel like the shooter himself doesn't meet notability guidelines, but the event does, I feel like the article should be converted into something similar to 2014 Isla Vista killings, where the event itself is published, but not focused on the perp. Gonzafer001 ( talk) 21:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
That's plausible Red Slash 16:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I concur, we should move the page to focus less on the perp, and more on the actual story. Gonzafer001 ( talk) 03:21, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Speedy delete - WP:NOTNEWS, WP:BLP. Suspected murderer on the run, not yet captured by authorities. Also, the image of the suspect is not licensed for our use. — Maile ( talk) 19:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Speedy delete G10/A7. Mccapra ( talk) 20:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Not a speedy. The copyrighted image can be removed. This article is not "entirely negative in tone and unsourced." (emphasis mine). It may be entirely inappropriate for Wikipedia, but CNN has covered it, so it's unreasonable to argue it's A7. Jclemens ( talk) 22:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I've removed the speedy tag and added a link to the CNN coverage. That doesn't mean I think this should be kept: it means I don't think any of our speedy deletion criteria apply. Jclemens ( talk) 03:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete/speedy delete per WP:NOTNEWS LegalSmeagolian ( talk) 00:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Speedy keep - this neither is WP:OR (did you... read the references??), nor does it fail the WP:GNG based on the substantial news coverage. Red Slash 01:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The main source is a self-described zine that basically makes a bunch of allegations on a non-convicted individual. That's what I mean by OR. Lettlre ( talk) 17:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
This is not the only source--it's been covered by national news and extensively covered by local news. Even so, that "zine" article is extensively sourced with interviews from people directly involved, like Elias's former boss at the police department. Red Slash 17:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete To the above user, this article and its tone is wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia ( WP:BLPBALANCE) and inappropriately POV, incredibly violating WP:PERP; as the subject has been caught there's no use for the article as-is currently. The picture has been removed due to a poor licensing rationale and as the image involves children in no way involved with the subject or the story, and a BLPBALANCE-violating title in itself. Nate • ( chatter) 02:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Speedy delete as a WP:BLP violation. The article is almost completely unsourced contentious claims about a living person. Jfire ( talk) 02:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The BLP issues have been resolved, but this still fails WP:NOTNEWS and WP:CRIME. Coverage is unlikely to be WP:SUSTAINED. Jfire ( talk) 04:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

It is completely sourced. Red Slash 16:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment This is all over the news in the Northwest. He was tracked down and committed suicide. It's being presented on the news as factual including interviews with people he worked with. He isn't a living person but a recently deceased person so I realize BLP still applies. The name of the minor victim has not been included here or mentioned in the news but they spoke with her family. Liz ^{Read!
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Rename to 2024 Yakima murder and child abduction case, or something similar. They issued an Amber Alert about this case in the middle of the night, and it has certainly been heavily covered, but I agree that naming the article after Huizar doesn't entirely make sense since nothing about him is notable except for his crimes. See WP:BLP1E (although he is dead it is still relevant). LonelyBoy2012 ( talk) 07:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The fact that you named the wrong city speaks to the fact that he actually was notable for multiple crimes across Eastern Washington. His rape of a 13-year-old at his middle school took place in Yakima; his double murder happened in West Richland, an hour southeast.

Because of this, it feels awkward to me to name an article about several different, interconnected crimes, afte just one of them... the one thing they all have in common is Elias. Red Slash 16:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Airbiquity

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All sources for this company are WP:ROUTINE coverage. Allan Nonymous ( talk) 16:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lean keep very difficult to find under all the regurgitated press releases but the Seattle Post-Intelligencer has done a couple of more substantial pieces on the company,^[1]^[2] which looks to have been more prominent in the 2000s. (I don't think the articles are still available online – if anyone would like me to email the full text to review, let me know). I'm not yet fully convinced of notability – we would want to see decent coverage from more than one source – but the situation is not quite as bad as it looks. – Tera tix ₵ 06:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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^ Cook, John (21 October 2005). "Ex-startup Airbiquity experiences a rebirth". Seattle Post-Intelligencer.
^ Cook, John (22 January 2008). "Airbiquity rebounds with funding, deals". Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

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Miss Washington USA

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This article is not ready for main space and should be draftified, at least. The references that exist do not add anything beyond individuals who won pageants in two recent years out of a claimed more than 50 years of events. There is not one reference for the pageant organization itself even to back up the claimed ownership or year it was formed. ☆ Bri ( talk) 16:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: Subject does not meet the WP:NORG due to a lack of sourcing about the pageant itself. Let'srun ( talk) 22:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Martin, Washington

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At a glance, this looks like a well-written and -sourced article, but it's a total WP:COATRACK. Almost nothing in the article is about the "town" of Martin, because there isn't anything to say: It was a minor railroad maintenance point that later had a station for a nearby ski area. Of all the cited sources, only reference 14 comes close to substantial coverage; many sources don't mention Martin at all. I couldn't find any additional sources that aren't already cited, and none are more than trivial mentions (e.g. photos of trains taken at Martin). I suggest a delete; I could also live with a merge of relevant content to Stampede Pass, Northern Pacific Railroad, or Meany Lodge (from which much of this article's content seems to have been copied). WeirdNAnnoyed ( talk) 15:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete or Merge to Stampede pass. I agree with nom. The newspaper record supports this is a train station near Stampede pass that had good ski properties. But there was never a town there. The nearest towns were Easton and Weston. I don't however understand why there was a siding and a station there. Refueling, or maintenance maybe? Here are news clips that are helpful in understanding the place. Describes it as remotest place in county. [1] Stranded Skies spend the night in Meany hut. [2] People ski at Meany SKi hut [3] James.folsom ( talk) 21:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
In further reading of the papers I did see a passing mention about steam locomotives needing to stop for water after a long climb up a grade. James.folsom ( talk) 19:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep as a notable railway complex rather than as a populated place (although some railway workers must have lived there). Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Your assumption that some workers lived is factually incorrect, as my second source makes it clear there were no overnight facilities at the site. Several, other sources I read make it clear it is miles from the nearest and very remote. James.folsom ( talk) 23:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge/Redirect to Martin Ski Dome, which appears to have been expanded by the same author. There's enough here for an article, but I think the ski dome is a better target. SportingFlyer T· C 17:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect to Martin Ski Dome, nothing showing this meets GNG or NGEO. // Timothy :: talk 17:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Redirect to Martin Ski Dome. This page does not meet GEOLAND and would be a delete for me, but it is just about a plausible search term for the proposed target. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 07:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Paulin Basinga

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Appears PROMO. I don't see articles about this individual, only interviews or use of him as an expert on xyz health topic in various media. Odd that all sourcing here is from Nigeria, but none in the home country, possible "pay to publish" as we see typically in Nigerian media. I have my concerns, bringing ti AfD to discuss. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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I oppose!

In the beginning, I read about him and his works. For clarification, it may seem to be promo but factually it is not.

In facts, connectively, I read that in the home country he was a university lecturer, researcher and consultant. These can be limits to his articles other than interviews or use of him as an expert. But I considered it notable because he featured on international articles including those of World Bank and BMGF. It is referenced that later on, he has featured on other institutions such as Global Citizen and UGHE.

I do not see any problem with sources from Nigeria because based on reliable sources, it shows that his work in leadership role at BMGF were about Africa and the biggest office there was in Nigeria.

However, If we test him in Rwanda, below are some articles about him but there are in Kinyarwanda;

Thanks. 6eeWikiUser ( talk) 18:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oaktree b, a drive-by comment: are you insinuating that "pay-to-publish" determines the nature of Nigeria media. I can't see much coverage if not two from Nigerian source. Don't you think it's below the belt?
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I'm not sure, we see it all too often here in AfD; Nigerian and Indian media seem to have a history of publishing iffy articles on people with no relation to the country. When I see an article that's only sourced to Nigerian media when the subject doesn't have a connection to the country (or a partial connection), it's a red flag. Oaktree b ( talk) 14:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I never knew the story about Nigerian and Indian media, and I think we should not easily globalize because from this subject, mathematically, the sources from Nigerian media are less than 30%. 6eeWikiUser ( talk) 11:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep There is sufficient coverage, and it does not matter which country's media covers it (or the language) as long as the refs ares reliable and verifiable, and there is sufficient coverage that meets our notability guidelines, and merits a stand-alone article, which this article does. Generalising and casting aspersions on a developing country's media is most unhelpful, and is contrary to the spirit of Wikipedia, and its goal in fighting against Wikipedia:Systemic bias. We do not know whether subject paid for it or not, and without facts, we should be mindful of casting aspersions on the credibility of others. It it is most unhelpful, and I hope the nom strike out that comment in their nomination and the response to Safari Scribe. I totally agree with Safari Scribe. It is unwarranted and below the belt. Tamsier ( talk)

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 02:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep Enough SIGCOV in Tri-Cities paper. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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[1] Cook, John (21 October 2005). "Ex-startup Airbiquity experiences a rebirth". Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

[2] Cook, John (22 January 2008). "Airbiquity rebounds with funding, deals". Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

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