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I would like to catch your attention to the New South Wales National Park and Wildlife Service logo that you keep on deleting on my profile.
It is said on NSW NPWS website that "The entire logo is to be used to convey the meaning intended and avoid tarnishing or misrepresenting the intended image" which I believe was the case on the infoboxes promoting National Parks in NSW.
If it goes against the American laws, well that's too bad but Wikipedia is not only for American eyes. Why didn't you remove it from National Parks and Wildlife Service (New South Wales)?
And there are logos from USA NPS to remove from my profile, too...
Aussie Oc ( talk) 08:08, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
{{Marchjuly|Patches.OHoulahan|Non-free image use again|ts = 22:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)}}
You recently reversed my edit adding various files to List_of_Canadian_provincial_and_territorial_symbols including coats of arms for Prince Edward Island as seen under Symbols_of_Prince_Edward_Island. To address your edit, I have received written approval from the provincial government of Prince Edward Island in order to present their coat of arms on the page in question. Thus, I wish to update the copyright permissions. How do I document this approval provided by the Executive Council Office of the Province of Prince Edward Island? The Executive Council Office has authorized the publication on Wikipedia in any format required. Is it advisable to upload a new image in a different format in order to include this image on the list in question?
Thank you
From: Darlene Ching <dlching@gov.pe.ca> To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Nancy McCabe <NMMCCABE@gov.pe.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017, 9:46:18 AM PDT Subject: Re: Use of PEI Arms
Good afternoon Mr. Unger,
Upon review of your request, I reviewed the Coat of Arms Act and Regulations and discussed your request with Paul Ledwell, Clerk of the Executive Council.
I am pleased to inform you that you are authorized to use the Prince Edward Island Coat of Arms to be used on the Wikipedia webpage for Canadian Provincial and Territorial Symbols.
By copy of this email, I am authorizing Nancy McCabe of our Strategic Marketing Office to provide you with an electronic image of the coat of arms in the formats that you require. Please contact Nancy McCabe directly by email as to the format(s) you require.
If you require any further, please do not hesitate to contact us.
I wish you every success with your updates.
Darlene Ching Executive Council Office Province of Prince Edward Island
Patches.OHoulahan ( talk) 22:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Robertjgray ( talk) 22:41, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey friend, um, I was wondering f you could help me out with the citations, you know, the references. They aren't formatted properly (they don't have names, authors, or the date of when they were written). This is due to me, because I just put the link to the article and nothing more. This was because I was rushing to get all the information into the draft page asap. It was a lot of information from a lot of years of development. You understand. If you could help me out with that, that would be greatly appreciated. Ive been really busy lately. I can do half and you could do half if that'd work with you? Thanks buddy. I messaged you because you seem to be interested in my draft page for Happytime Murders. So excited for this project! Sounds great! TheMovieGuy ( talk)
Thanks for uploading File:Gators men's basketball logo.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Corkythe hornetfan (ping me) 21:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for removing those flags, I had not realised they were not free! Philly boy92 ( talk) 12:39, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
For what it's worth the most extensive discussion I am aware of on this point was in August 2009, at Wikipedia_talk:Files_for_discussion/Archive_6#No_consensus. The RfC was never formally closed, just archived, but one admin at least, in a DRV close a few weeks later, considered that it had not established any consensus to change WP:DGFA, so "no consensus" to delete should continue to lead to an image being kept.
If this is no longer the case, it is perhaps worth raising at WT:DGFA, to see whether that guidance should specifically mention NFC, in the way that for example it already has a specific section on BLP. If it turns into a full-on discussion, then perhaps those that are still around that participated in the August 2009 discussion should be notified.
A point of view which I think is quite useful in this area is the paragraph on "rebuttable presumption" in the essay Wikipedia:Arguments_to_avoid_in_image_deletion_discussions#Misunderstanding_burden_of_proof, in line with the general principle made out at WP:DGFA that "Consensus is not determined by counting heads, but by looking at strength of argument, and underlying policy". The basic onus is on those who would keep a non-free image to make a case as to why per policy it should be kept. However, if they can make a concrete argument based in policy that could on the face of it be credible, then there is then an onus on those who would see the image removed to make a similarly concrete response as to why the argument to keep is flawed -- just to say "I don't agree" is not enough.
I am curious as to why this has come up now. Have there been a lot of FFDs recently being closed "no consensus"? As I think I expressed back in 2009, it seems to me that in practical terms the FFD process is already quite heavily weighted against the uploader -- in most cases I would have thought relying on a particular interpretation of "no consensus" would seldom be necessary, and that in most cases a file that should be deleted would be better deleted via a positive finding that those calling for keep had not made an argument that was credible within policy. Jheald ( talk) 10:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
I think you deleted content from an article about Anne Ewing. I wish to discuss this with you. At the very least, I would like my content back - even if it is not published on Wikipedia. It was the result of 6 years of work and I don't want to loose it. I did not keep a copy since I did not anticipate loosing it as I have. Thank you. SDFeminist2.0 SDFeminist2.0 ( talk) 23:31, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Since you edited my sandbox. Music Video 123 ( talk) 10:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello again. I pinged you at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 July 17#Two Sabrina Spellman files, where you commented, about the image I uploaded to replace the other image, now deleted. I am notifying you, just in case. -- George Ho ( talk) 02:20, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello! New to Wikipedia article creation so thanks for the valuable input. I have replaced the image with one that does not include the artist's face. The first image File:Weaver Ive Honyestewa holding her Whirlwind pootsaya.jpg can be deleted immediately. Thanks again. Skistud ( talk) 20:23, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I think you may have been overzealous in applying WP:SURNAME here. We usually do in fact give a forename for the first mention in the body of an article. After all, the lead is just a summary of the body. - Sitush ( talk) 12:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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I would like to catch your attention to the New South Wales National Park and Wildlife Service logo that you keep on deleting on my profile.
It is said on NSW NPWS website that "The entire logo is to be used to convey the meaning intended and avoid tarnishing or misrepresenting the intended image" which I believe was the case on the infoboxes promoting National Parks in NSW.
If it goes against the American laws, well that's too bad but Wikipedia is not only for American eyes. Why didn't you remove it from National Parks and Wildlife Service (New South Wales)?
And there are logos from USA NPS to remove from my profile, too...
Aussie Oc ( talk) 08:08, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
{{Marchjuly|Patches.OHoulahan|Non-free image use again|ts = 22:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)}}
You recently reversed my edit adding various files to List_of_Canadian_provincial_and_territorial_symbols including coats of arms for Prince Edward Island as seen under Symbols_of_Prince_Edward_Island. To address your edit, I have received written approval from the provincial government of Prince Edward Island in order to present their coat of arms on the page in question. Thus, I wish to update the copyright permissions. How do I document this approval provided by the Executive Council Office of the Province of Prince Edward Island? The Executive Council Office has authorized the publication on Wikipedia in any format required. Is it advisable to upload a new image in a different format in order to include this image on the list in question?
Thank you
From: Darlene Ching <dlching@gov.pe.ca> To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Nancy McCabe <NMMCCABE@gov.pe.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017, 9:46:18 AM PDT Subject: Re: Use of PEI Arms
Good afternoon Mr. Unger,
Upon review of your request, I reviewed the Coat of Arms Act and Regulations and discussed your request with Paul Ledwell, Clerk of the Executive Council.
I am pleased to inform you that you are authorized to use the Prince Edward Island Coat of Arms to be used on the Wikipedia webpage for Canadian Provincial and Territorial Symbols.
By copy of this email, I am authorizing Nancy McCabe of our Strategic Marketing Office to provide you with an electronic image of the coat of arms in the formats that you require. Please contact Nancy McCabe directly by email as to the format(s) you require.
If you require any further, please do not hesitate to contact us.
I wish you every success with your updates.
Darlene Ching Executive Council Office Province of Prince Edward Island
Patches.OHoulahan ( talk) 22:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Robertjgray ( talk) 22:41, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey friend, um, I was wondering f you could help me out with the citations, you know, the references. They aren't formatted properly (they don't have names, authors, or the date of when they were written). This is due to me, because I just put the link to the article and nothing more. This was because I was rushing to get all the information into the draft page asap. It was a lot of information from a lot of years of development. You understand. If you could help me out with that, that would be greatly appreciated. Ive been really busy lately. I can do half and you could do half if that'd work with you? Thanks buddy. I messaged you because you seem to be interested in my draft page for Happytime Murders. So excited for this project! Sounds great! TheMovieGuy ( talk)
Thanks for uploading File:Gators men's basketball logo.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Corkythe hornetfan (ping me) 21:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for removing those flags, I had not realised they were not free! Philly boy92 ( talk) 12:39, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
For what it's worth the most extensive discussion I am aware of on this point was in August 2009, at Wikipedia_talk:Files_for_discussion/Archive_6#No_consensus. The RfC was never formally closed, just archived, but one admin at least, in a DRV close a few weeks later, considered that it had not established any consensus to change WP:DGFA, so "no consensus" to delete should continue to lead to an image being kept.
If this is no longer the case, it is perhaps worth raising at WT:DGFA, to see whether that guidance should specifically mention NFC, in the way that for example it already has a specific section on BLP. If it turns into a full-on discussion, then perhaps those that are still around that participated in the August 2009 discussion should be notified.
A point of view which I think is quite useful in this area is the paragraph on "rebuttable presumption" in the essay Wikipedia:Arguments_to_avoid_in_image_deletion_discussions#Misunderstanding_burden_of_proof, in line with the general principle made out at WP:DGFA that "Consensus is not determined by counting heads, but by looking at strength of argument, and underlying policy". The basic onus is on those who would keep a non-free image to make a case as to why per policy it should be kept. However, if they can make a concrete argument based in policy that could on the face of it be credible, then there is then an onus on those who would see the image removed to make a similarly concrete response as to why the argument to keep is flawed -- just to say "I don't agree" is not enough.
I am curious as to why this has come up now. Have there been a lot of FFDs recently being closed "no consensus"? As I think I expressed back in 2009, it seems to me that in practical terms the FFD process is already quite heavily weighted against the uploader -- in most cases I would have thought relying on a particular interpretation of "no consensus" would seldom be necessary, and that in most cases a file that should be deleted would be better deleted via a positive finding that those calling for keep had not made an argument that was credible within policy. Jheald ( talk) 10:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
I think you deleted content from an article about Anne Ewing. I wish to discuss this with you. At the very least, I would like my content back - even if it is not published on Wikipedia. It was the result of 6 years of work and I don't want to loose it. I did not keep a copy since I did not anticipate loosing it as I have. Thank you. SDFeminist2.0 SDFeminist2.0 ( talk) 23:31, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Since you edited my sandbox. Music Video 123 ( talk) 10:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello again. I pinged you at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 July 17#Two Sabrina Spellman files, where you commented, about the image I uploaded to replace the other image, now deleted. I am notifying you, just in case. -- George Ho ( talk) 02:20, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello! New to Wikipedia article creation so thanks for the valuable input. I have replaced the image with one that does not include the artist's face. The first image File:Weaver Ive Honyestewa holding her Whirlwind pootsaya.jpg can be deleted immediately. Thanks again. Skistud ( talk) 20:23, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I think you may have been overzealous in applying WP:SURNAME here. We usually do in fact give a forename for the first mention in the body of an article. After all, the lead is just a summary of the body. - Sitush ( talk) 12:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)