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"Removed personal comment from article. This kind of comment is a good example of perhaps why you should stick to editing per WP:COIADVICE despite your claim of being able to edit according to relevant policies and guidelines." The comment was accurate and factual, not personal. What rule was broken this time? Not to worry, I've made my last edit to the article. Michael from Kilgore ( talk) 11:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
biggest problem with the system in general is Wikipedia editors and others who are much more interested in the internal rules of the system rather than accurate, verifiable content that is both interesting, easy to read, and enlightening, and you probably wouldn't be alone. The place to discuss concerns such as those, however, is on the talk pages of relevant policy/guideline pages or on article talk pages and not in articles themselves. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 13:12, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Surely there is some better use of your time then replacing :: with ** on deletion discussions. Lots of people use :'s. [1]This is not an error but it is modifying talkpage comments. Legacypac ( talk) 06:27, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
Thank you for the detailed information. The draft page for Out of Bounds (2019 film) has been removed citing unambiguous copyright infringement. An email regarding declaration of consent was sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, yesterday [Ticket#: 2019030710010908], as I have the authorization to use the image. I contested the violation through the proper and suggested channels; however, the draft page was deleted in the time it took to send the consent email. Please restore the draft page as it doesn’t violate or infringe upon any copyrights. Also, please find following the link to the deleted draft: /info/en/?search=Draft:Out_of_Bounds_(2019_film). Lastly, if you would be so kind as to approve the draft upon restoration as there was no actual copyright violation. Thank you in advance and your assistance is sincerely appreciated. Staciwilliams126 ( talk) 16:38, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
Thank you for the information. I genuinely appreciation your constructive assistance and prompt responses. 2604:2000:C807:E800:3177:6C72:818F:BE7A ( talk) 17:39, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
My apologies about not being logged in. I think I'm okay and not in need of any further assistance. Thank you again and enjoy your weekend. Staciwilliams126 ( talk) 20:10, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions about my uploaded image File: Old_Cabin_Camp_1930.jpg. I could, indeed, use some help with these copyright guidelines.
Initially, I wrote the publisher of the book in which the image appears, asking for permission. Perhaps I did not phrase the request properly, but the publisher responded in the affirmative. Here is a copy of my exchange:
My request:
“I would like to use the photograph entitled “J. Monroe Thorington and Conrad Kain (centre) with companions. At ‘Old Cabin,' Dutch Creek, Southern Purcells, July 24, 1930” that was published as part of Conrad Kain. Where the Clouds Can Go. ISBN: 978-1-897522-45-5 in a Wikipedia article about Peter Kaufmann-Bohren, a Swiss mountain guide. The use of the image would be entirely for educational, nonprofit purposes.”
Editor’s response:
You can use the photo for the Wikipedia article. We allow usage of photos for any non-commercial purposes provided there is accurate credit of where the photo is from and a credit of the book. Here is the information: Photo: From the family of Enid Hurst Hansen, published in Where the Clouds Can Go (Rocky Mountain Books, 2009).”
Apparently Wikipedia does not accept such an approval. Or am I wrong on this point? If licenses are involved here, I will need some major help.
So I attempted to provide another rationale for posting the image. The non-free use category seemed to me the most logical choice, since the image is historically significant (deceased persons and historical event)and not depicted in any other extant photo (as far as I know), and significantly complements the understanding of the text (specific explorers and wilderness setting). The author (i.e., the photographer) is unknown and died more than 70 years ago, so I added the {{ PD-old-70}} category to further support my rationale for the posting.
My deletion of some warnings was not meant maliciously: I thought I had remedied the problem, so I followed the instructions on the warnings to delete them if additional information was added to correct the rationale. I reduced the size of the photo myself, to retain the maximum qualify of the image, apparently not small enough. To me the image loses its usefulness if the faces of the individuals are not recognizable in the wilderness (thus cropping the image would not make sense). By the way, the image was sent to me by the publisher, who indicated no size restriction in the correspondence (above).
Drafting my article before officially placing it online in my sandbox works well for me. I also wanted to include the images in this “working draft” so that I can see how the final version will look. Using the free-use category apparently prevents me from doing this, since a link message appears in the image file. A warning prompted me to do this: “Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days;” you have assured me not to worry about deletion.
I’m still unclear which is the best/acceptable justification for posting the image.
• What is the best rationale for posting this image?
• Should I use only the {{ PD-old-70}} and drop the free-use rationale?
• Do I need more justification for the free-use rationale, if I cite that rationale? (If I write out the rationale, should I put it in the Description Box? The Permission Box seems the more logical place, although I can’t seem to place sentences there.)
• Can some rationale be found to leave the image larger than the present reduced version?
• Can I put images in my sandbox version?
Sorry that this has become so complicated. But I am thankful for your help. P.dreher ( talk) 15:33, 15 March 2019 (UTC) P.dreher
Hi Marchjuly,
It appears my attempts to update the Oregon Mandolin Orchestra's Wikipedia page have been badly misguided. For that I apologize.
But I was simply trying to post new information a page that hadn't been updated for three years and is terribly outdated -- and flat wrong.
If my participation is viewed as an inherent conflict of interest, if my language/tone is too promotional and if my scholarship doesn't meet the organization's standards, then how do we get someone to update the page? Is there a way to contact the earlier contributors to see if they are still interested in our orchestra?
Right now, our page is outdated as the encyclopedias I used when I was a kid. A couple of years ago, I donated both sets to charity. If no one updates our page so it expresses the truth, it also should be donated to charity.
Thank you,
Oremandos ( talk) 16:34, 23 March 2019 (UTC) Oremandos 3/23/2019
Hi, Marchjuly! English is not my language, and I have some trouble with understanding this sentence from your reply at Teahouse#Is there anything we can do (...)?:
I'm under the impression you rather meant:
Could you, please, verify? -- CiaPan ( talk) 16:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi Marchjuly,
Welcome to the Wikipedia community!
Did you know that Artificial Intelligences (AIs) support Wikipedia? I saw your post on Teahouse, and I’m personally contacting a small handful of new Wikipedia editors to make sure your voice is heard as we build and refine these AIs.
Will you please provide an interview to share your thoughts about AI on Wikipedia? It would only take about 30 minutes over phone or video chat. We will send you a $15 Amazon gift card as a way to thank you for your time.
I am working in collaboration with Wikimedia Foundation staff to do this research, so if you decide to participate, your opinion could help build the future of Wikipedia. Hope to talk to you soon!
PS. You can learn more about our study here.
Best, Bowen, aka Bobo.03 ( talk) 19:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
hi.
so, i guess you've noticed that there are now pages for all active shogi players. I was going to make some pages for some red links of nonactive players. But, before i do all the retired/dead folks, i was going then start on active women players. Only after that will i go to do the rest of the old players. Here & there, i'll write some more stuff on theory as my mood dictates. Anyway, just dropping note about the status of the shogi 'project'. peace – ishwar (speak) 17:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Why did you remove the Six Flags stub template photo?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99721829Max ( talk • contribs) 14:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
How dare you remove the photo!!!!!did here are not really a good idea per Help:Edit summary#What to avoid in edit summaries. Not only were you 100% incorrect in re-adding the image based upon Wikipedia policy, edit summaries of that nature indicate a sort of WP:BATTLEGROUND approach to editing which is often not very helpful. It's much better to simply ask for clarification like you did here in a WP:CIVIL manner than leave an angry-sounding edit sum.Finally, when you post comments on talk pages, please try to remember that (1) new discussion threads always go at the bottom of the page and (2) you should always sign your posts per WP:SIGN. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 23:03, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Marchjuly thanks for your response I have written a Hindi article where the title was wrong, I tried to reach them in the tea house but there was no response. Anyway thanks for your help. नेहा गुप्ता ( talk) 19:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)नेहा गुप्ता
Hi, I hope I am not bothering you, but could you help me understand how I could be dealing with this situation on the E. J. Levy page better? I feel like I have been consistently trying to focus on the content and have tried to ignore the other user and keep my comments to them brief and non-accusatory, but they seem to be clearly harassing me. For example, in the diffs in their most recent post on the page, most are reverting the same incorrect information that resulted in Hedgielamar's bans (and from almost a week ago). Do you feel that my edits are not constructive to the article and/or have been inappropriate on the talk page? I would really appreciate if you could let me know what I have done wrong. Thank you. Wallyfromdilbert ( talk) 08:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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"Removed personal comment from article. This kind of comment is a good example of perhaps why you should stick to editing per WP:COIADVICE despite your claim of being able to edit according to relevant policies and guidelines." The comment was accurate and factual, not personal. What rule was broken this time? Not to worry, I've made my last edit to the article. Michael from Kilgore ( talk) 11:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
biggest problem with the system in general is Wikipedia editors and others who are much more interested in the internal rules of the system rather than accurate, verifiable content that is both interesting, easy to read, and enlightening, and you probably wouldn't be alone. The place to discuss concerns such as those, however, is on the talk pages of relevant policy/guideline pages or on article talk pages and not in articles themselves. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 13:12, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Surely there is some better use of your time then replacing :: with ** on deletion discussions. Lots of people use :'s. [1]This is not an error but it is modifying talkpage comments. Legacypac ( talk) 06:27, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
Thank you for the detailed information. The draft page for Out of Bounds (2019 film) has been removed citing unambiguous copyright infringement. An email regarding declaration of consent was sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, yesterday [Ticket#: 2019030710010908], as I have the authorization to use the image. I contested the violation through the proper and suggested channels; however, the draft page was deleted in the time it took to send the consent email. Please restore the draft page as it doesn’t violate or infringe upon any copyrights. Also, please find following the link to the deleted draft: /info/en/?search=Draft:Out_of_Bounds_(2019_film). Lastly, if you would be so kind as to approve the draft upon restoration as there was no actual copyright violation. Thank you in advance and your assistance is sincerely appreciated. Staciwilliams126 ( talk) 16:38, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
Thank you for the information. I genuinely appreciation your constructive assistance and prompt responses. 2604:2000:C807:E800:3177:6C72:818F:BE7A ( talk) 17:39, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
My apologies about not being logged in. I think I'm okay and not in need of any further assistance. Thank you again and enjoy your weekend. Staciwilliams126 ( talk) 20:10, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Marchjuly,
Thank you for taking the time to offer suggestions about my uploaded image File: Old_Cabin_Camp_1930.jpg. I could, indeed, use some help with these copyright guidelines.
Initially, I wrote the publisher of the book in which the image appears, asking for permission. Perhaps I did not phrase the request properly, but the publisher responded in the affirmative. Here is a copy of my exchange:
My request:
“I would like to use the photograph entitled “J. Monroe Thorington and Conrad Kain (centre) with companions. At ‘Old Cabin,' Dutch Creek, Southern Purcells, July 24, 1930” that was published as part of Conrad Kain. Where the Clouds Can Go. ISBN: 978-1-897522-45-5 in a Wikipedia article about Peter Kaufmann-Bohren, a Swiss mountain guide. The use of the image would be entirely for educational, nonprofit purposes.”
Editor’s response:
You can use the photo for the Wikipedia article. We allow usage of photos for any non-commercial purposes provided there is accurate credit of where the photo is from and a credit of the book. Here is the information: Photo: From the family of Enid Hurst Hansen, published in Where the Clouds Can Go (Rocky Mountain Books, 2009).”
Apparently Wikipedia does not accept such an approval. Or am I wrong on this point? If licenses are involved here, I will need some major help.
So I attempted to provide another rationale for posting the image. The non-free use category seemed to me the most logical choice, since the image is historically significant (deceased persons and historical event)and not depicted in any other extant photo (as far as I know), and significantly complements the understanding of the text (specific explorers and wilderness setting). The author (i.e., the photographer) is unknown and died more than 70 years ago, so I added the {{ PD-old-70}} category to further support my rationale for the posting.
My deletion of some warnings was not meant maliciously: I thought I had remedied the problem, so I followed the instructions on the warnings to delete them if additional information was added to correct the rationale. I reduced the size of the photo myself, to retain the maximum qualify of the image, apparently not small enough. To me the image loses its usefulness if the faces of the individuals are not recognizable in the wilderness (thus cropping the image would not make sense). By the way, the image was sent to me by the publisher, who indicated no size restriction in the correspondence (above).
Drafting my article before officially placing it online in my sandbox works well for me. I also wanted to include the images in this “working draft” so that I can see how the final version will look. Using the free-use category apparently prevents me from doing this, since a link message appears in the image file. A warning prompted me to do this: “Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days;” you have assured me not to worry about deletion.
I’m still unclear which is the best/acceptable justification for posting the image.
• What is the best rationale for posting this image?
• Should I use only the {{ PD-old-70}} and drop the free-use rationale?
• Do I need more justification for the free-use rationale, if I cite that rationale? (If I write out the rationale, should I put it in the Description Box? The Permission Box seems the more logical place, although I can’t seem to place sentences there.)
• Can some rationale be found to leave the image larger than the present reduced version?
• Can I put images in my sandbox version?
Sorry that this has become so complicated. But I am thankful for your help. P.dreher ( talk) 15:33, 15 March 2019 (UTC) P.dreher
Hi Marchjuly,
It appears my attempts to update the Oregon Mandolin Orchestra's Wikipedia page have been badly misguided. For that I apologize.
But I was simply trying to post new information a page that hadn't been updated for three years and is terribly outdated -- and flat wrong.
If my participation is viewed as an inherent conflict of interest, if my language/tone is too promotional and if my scholarship doesn't meet the organization's standards, then how do we get someone to update the page? Is there a way to contact the earlier contributors to see if they are still interested in our orchestra?
Right now, our page is outdated as the encyclopedias I used when I was a kid. A couple of years ago, I donated both sets to charity. If no one updates our page so it expresses the truth, it also should be donated to charity.
Thank you,
Oremandos ( talk) 16:34, 23 March 2019 (UTC) Oremandos 3/23/2019
Hi, Marchjuly! English is not my language, and I have some trouble with understanding this sentence from your reply at Teahouse#Is there anything we can do (...)?:
I'm under the impression you rather meant:
Could you, please, verify? -- CiaPan ( talk) 16:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi Marchjuly,
Welcome to the Wikipedia community!
Did you know that Artificial Intelligences (AIs) support Wikipedia? I saw your post on Teahouse, and I’m personally contacting a small handful of new Wikipedia editors to make sure your voice is heard as we build and refine these AIs.
Will you please provide an interview to share your thoughts about AI on Wikipedia? It would only take about 30 minutes over phone or video chat. We will send you a $15 Amazon gift card as a way to thank you for your time.
I am working in collaboration with Wikimedia Foundation staff to do this research, so if you decide to participate, your opinion could help build the future of Wikipedia. Hope to talk to you soon!
PS. You can learn more about our study here.
Best, Bowen, aka Bobo.03 ( talk) 19:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
hi.
so, i guess you've noticed that there are now pages for all active shogi players. I was going to make some pages for some red links of nonactive players. But, before i do all the retired/dead folks, i was going then start on active women players. Only after that will i go to do the rest of the old players. Here & there, i'll write some more stuff on theory as my mood dictates. Anyway, just dropping note about the status of the shogi 'project'. peace – ishwar (speak) 17:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Why did you remove the Six Flags stub template photo?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99721829Max ( talk • contribs) 14:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
How dare you remove the photo!!!!!did here are not really a good idea per Help:Edit summary#What to avoid in edit summaries. Not only were you 100% incorrect in re-adding the image based upon Wikipedia policy, edit summaries of that nature indicate a sort of WP:BATTLEGROUND approach to editing which is often not very helpful. It's much better to simply ask for clarification like you did here in a WP:CIVIL manner than leave an angry-sounding edit sum.Finally, when you post comments on talk pages, please try to remember that (1) new discussion threads always go at the bottom of the page and (2) you should always sign your posts per WP:SIGN. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 23:03, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Marchjuly thanks for your response I have written a Hindi article where the title was wrong, I tried to reach them in the tea house but there was no response. Anyway thanks for your help. नेहा गुप्ता ( talk) 19:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)नेहा गुप्ता
Hi, I hope I am not bothering you, but could you help me understand how I could be dealing with this situation on the E. J. Levy page better? I feel like I have been consistently trying to focus on the content and have tried to ignore the other user and keep my comments to them brief and non-accusatory, but they seem to be clearly harassing me. For example, in the diffs in their most recent post on the page, most are reverting the same incorrect information that resulted in Hedgielamar's bans (and from almost a week ago). Do you feel that my edits are not constructive to the article and/or have been inappropriate on the talk page? I would really appreciate if you could let me know what I have done wrong. Thank you. Wallyfromdilbert ( talk) 08:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)