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Received

I received the one asking if you sent one. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 21:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I gave it another shot. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Just for your information

Hi, MarchJuly. Thanks for your comments at the talk page of the person who claims to be William Galison. That was good advice you gave them. But just for your information: you said For reference, MelanieN is a Wikipedia administrator and I'm not; so, she could see your IP and others like myself couldn't if you're account was registered. Actually, no I can't. Only checkusers can see the IP address of registered users. Most admins are not checkusers; that's a whole 'nother level of trusted user. Learn something new every day. 0;-D. -- MelanieN ( talk) 04:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. I kinda knew that but don’t know why things came out that way. I’m sorry about that. I’ll go back and fix it. — Marchjuly ( talk) 04:23, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

nb

I'm dropping it, but I did want to address your comment in regards to "There must be some process for getting admins desyopped" — there unfortunately is not such a process on the English Wikipedia. Asking someone to resign is as valid (and, admittedly, useless) as any other method. An ArbCom case tends to be how admins get desysopped, and this certainly didn't rise to that level. That was a very nasty RfA for someone I consider a good friend, and I'm quite upset by it all — TNT ( talk • she/her) 03:44, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm assuming you were upset, and it's not my place to tell you not to feel as such. I also wasn't aware there's no formal process for de-adminning an admin; maybe there should be. At the same time, I don't understand what you were trying to accomplish with your posts, unless you just wanted to let Hammersoft know that you were truly disappointed with their behavior and somehow have him feel some of what your friend was feeling. Hammersoft did apologize and strike his comments though, and those acts seemed quite sincere and self-reflective (at least to me); so, at some point (at least in my opinion) people need to either accept things for what they are and move on, or need to take things to another noticeboard to seek to have the issue further addressed. Going back and forth like that on a user talk page very rarely resolves things, but more often than not just leads to people becoming more upset and angry. I've always found demanding anything from anyone to be fraught with peril, and that there are usually better ways to find reproachment or resolution. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 03:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from JJ n0necares (13:45, 3 May 2022)

hi yes hello hi okay are you a person? -- JJ n0necares ( talk) 13:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi JJ n0necares. Yes, I’m a person (at least I think I am on most days). — Marchjuly ( talk) 18:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Ooh. A human :O I thought you were like a robot or something.. Idk.. JJ n0necares ( talk) 19:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
I’m only a human even on my best days. Is there some reason you posted here on my user talk page? Did you have a question about something related to Wikipedia? — Marchjuly ( talk) 19:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Wordomedia (09:55, 7 May 2022)

The real mean of Positive or negative energy -- Wordomedia ( talk) 09:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Wordomedia. I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to that question. Perhaps someone at Wikipedia:Reference desk can help you. If, on the other hand, you have a questions about Wikipedia, then I might be able to answer them. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 10:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi marchjuly ,
I also trying to search the answer of the living energies because energy having lots of forms and all are having their own specialty .
In short terms i can say living energy is not only the part of universe but also it is universe .
Everything is happening with it Wordomedia ( talk) 10:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
That sound interesting, but I don't know the answer to your question. Try asking at the Wikipedia Reference Desk because that's often a good place to ask general questions about things other than Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 10:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from JJ n0necares (14:20, 16 May 2022)

Soo... Are you just my mentor? Or are you many people's mentors... And does everyone just get a mentor or am I normal.... :P -- JJ n0necares ( talk) 14:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi JJ n0necares There's always been some form of mentoring on Wikipedia, but in the past it's been based on an mutual agreement between mentor and mentee. What you're participating is an attempt to improve on that process by the Wikipedia Growth Team. I don't know all of the details of this new feature, but the mentoring part appears to work as follows: someone volunteers to help new users (i.e. they volunteer to be a mentor); new users who register for an account are randomly assigned to one of these mentors (a mentor can have more than one mentee); the new user receives some sort of notification that they have been assigned a mentor and that they can ask their mentor questions. That's bascially how it works, but it's completely voluntary and you're not required to participate if you want. You can also seek assistance at places like the Wikipedia:Help desk or the Wikipedia:Teahouse. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

"Surf Beach" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Surf Beach and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 26#Surf Beach until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. A7V2 ( talk) 09:38, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. — Marchjuly ( talk) 20:43, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Shar4coldnoses on List of long marriages (15:11, 27 May 2022)

Hi, my grandparents were married 80 years and 265 days! I would like to add them to this list. How do I go about doing that? -- Shar4coldnoses ( talk) 15:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

@ Shar4coldnoses: First, congratulations to your grandparents for achieving such a milestone. Please understand that it’s still a great thing they were married for so long a time regardless of whether they get their names mentioned on Wikipedia.
In order for you to add content about them to List of long marriages, you’re going to need to provide some way for others to verify such content as explained here. Content added to Wikipedia articles is expected to be supported by citations to reliable sources so that it can be verified by readers. Unsupported or unverifiable content can be found in articles, but it’s always at risk of being removed as explained here. So, your best chance of adding something about your grandparents to that article and avoiding it being removed would be to find some reliable sources that can be cited in support. You can also ask about this at Talk:List of long marriages to see whether any of the users who are monitoring that particular article might be able to give you some more specific advice. — Marchjuly ( talk) 21:13, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

What does a Karen (slang) look like?

Just last night I realized an extreme example of a Karen is Beverly Goldberg.

This is in reference to this Teahouse question. I am so far behind reading the archives but there's lots of good stuff there.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:38, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

I've never seen that show and am not familiar with that particular character. If secondary reliable sources describe the character as such, then perhaps something could be added to the article about the representation, but any interpretations of the character would need to be properly attributed and supported by citation. I think it would still be hard to justify any images (even of fictional characters) in such an article without some fairly strong sources cited in support. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Understood.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:57, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Received

I received the one asking if you sent one. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 21:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I gave it another shot. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Just for your information

Hi, MarchJuly. Thanks for your comments at the talk page of the person who claims to be William Galison. That was good advice you gave them. But just for your information: you said For reference, MelanieN is a Wikipedia administrator and I'm not; so, she could see your IP and others like myself couldn't if you're account was registered. Actually, no I can't. Only checkusers can see the IP address of registered users. Most admins are not checkusers; that's a whole 'nother level of trusted user. Learn something new every day. 0;-D. -- MelanieN ( talk) 04:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. I kinda knew that but don’t know why things came out that way. I’m sorry about that. I’ll go back and fix it. — Marchjuly ( talk) 04:23, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

nb

I'm dropping it, but I did want to address your comment in regards to "There must be some process for getting admins desyopped" — there unfortunately is not such a process on the English Wikipedia. Asking someone to resign is as valid (and, admittedly, useless) as any other method. An ArbCom case tends to be how admins get desysopped, and this certainly didn't rise to that level. That was a very nasty RfA for someone I consider a good friend, and I'm quite upset by it all — TNT ( talk • she/her) 03:44, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm assuming you were upset, and it's not my place to tell you not to feel as such. I also wasn't aware there's no formal process for de-adminning an admin; maybe there should be. At the same time, I don't understand what you were trying to accomplish with your posts, unless you just wanted to let Hammersoft know that you were truly disappointed with their behavior and somehow have him feel some of what your friend was feeling. Hammersoft did apologize and strike his comments though, and those acts seemed quite sincere and self-reflective (at least to me); so, at some point (at least in my opinion) people need to either accept things for what they are and move on, or need to take things to another noticeboard to seek to have the issue further addressed. Going back and forth like that on a user talk page very rarely resolves things, but more often than not just leads to people becoming more upset and angry. I've always found demanding anything from anyone to be fraught with peril, and that there are usually better ways to find reproachment or resolution. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 03:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from JJ n0necares (13:45, 3 May 2022)

hi yes hello hi okay are you a person? -- JJ n0necares ( talk) 13:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi JJ n0necares. Yes, I’m a person (at least I think I am on most days). — Marchjuly ( talk) 18:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Ooh. A human :O I thought you were like a robot or something.. Idk.. JJ n0necares ( talk) 19:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
I’m only a human even on my best days. Is there some reason you posted here on my user talk page? Did you have a question about something related to Wikipedia? — Marchjuly ( talk) 19:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Wordomedia (09:55, 7 May 2022)

The real mean of Positive or negative energy -- Wordomedia ( talk) 09:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Wordomedia. I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to that question. Perhaps someone at Wikipedia:Reference desk can help you. If, on the other hand, you have a questions about Wikipedia, then I might be able to answer them. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 10:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi marchjuly ,
I also trying to search the answer of the living energies because energy having lots of forms and all are having their own specialty .
In short terms i can say living energy is not only the part of universe but also it is universe .
Everything is happening with it Wordomedia ( talk) 10:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
That sound interesting, but I don't know the answer to your question. Try asking at the Wikipedia Reference Desk because that's often a good place to ask general questions about things other than Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 10:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from JJ n0necares (14:20, 16 May 2022)

Soo... Are you just my mentor? Or are you many people's mentors... And does everyone just get a mentor or am I normal.... :P -- JJ n0necares ( talk) 14:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi JJ n0necares There's always been some form of mentoring on Wikipedia, but in the past it's been based on an mutual agreement between mentor and mentee. What you're participating is an attempt to improve on that process by the Wikipedia Growth Team. I don't know all of the details of this new feature, but the mentoring part appears to work as follows: someone volunteers to help new users (i.e. they volunteer to be a mentor); new users who register for an account are randomly assigned to one of these mentors (a mentor can have more than one mentee); the new user receives some sort of notification that they have been assigned a mentor and that they can ask their mentor questions. That's bascially how it works, but it's completely voluntary and you're not required to participate if you want. You can also seek assistance at places like the Wikipedia:Help desk or the Wikipedia:Teahouse. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

"Surf Beach" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Surf Beach and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 26#Surf Beach until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. A7V2 ( talk) 09:38, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. — Marchjuly ( talk) 20:43, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Shar4coldnoses on List of long marriages (15:11, 27 May 2022)

Hi, my grandparents were married 80 years and 265 days! I would like to add them to this list. How do I go about doing that? -- Shar4coldnoses ( talk) 15:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

@ Shar4coldnoses: First, congratulations to your grandparents for achieving such a milestone. Please understand that it’s still a great thing they were married for so long a time regardless of whether they get their names mentioned on Wikipedia.
In order for you to add content about them to List of long marriages, you’re going to need to provide some way for others to verify such content as explained here. Content added to Wikipedia articles is expected to be supported by citations to reliable sources so that it can be verified by readers. Unsupported or unverifiable content can be found in articles, but it’s always at risk of being removed as explained here. So, your best chance of adding something about your grandparents to that article and avoiding it being removed would be to find some reliable sources that can be cited in support. You can also ask about this at Talk:List of long marriages to see whether any of the users who are monitoring that particular article might be able to give you some more specific advice. — Marchjuly ( talk) 21:13, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

What does a Karen (slang) look like?

Just last night I realized an extreme example of a Karen is Beverly Goldberg.

This is in reference to this Teahouse question. I am so far behind reading the archives but there's lots of good stuff there.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:38, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

I've never seen that show and am not familiar with that particular character. If secondary reliable sources describe the character as such, then perhaps something could be added to the article about the representation, but any interpretations of the character would need to be properly attributed and supported by citation. I think it would still be hard to justify any images (even of fictional characters) in such an article without some fairly strong sources cited in support. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Understood.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:57, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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