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The result was delete. Redirects at editorial discretion. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Myths about Hinduism

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The article does not cover any topic clearly at this moment. A few quotations are there. Merge with Hinduism or delete. Titodutta ( talk) 23:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Computing (Urdu magazine)

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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Strong delete It looks like a hoax, swims and quacks like a hoax to me. The external link links to a parked domain (a Wayback snapshot from 2007 shows it is a forum and nothing to do with a magazine), the native name returns nothing relevant from search results, the names of the editor and publisher also return only Wikipedia mirrors, and the ISSN link returns a 404. The article was created in 2007, and it seems that the only people who have added substiantial content to it are SPAs. Even if this supposed publication somehow exists, there is no indicator of notability. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:47, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete fails WP:GNG. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 01:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Naya Waraq

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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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Audio Video Satellite

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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Evan Burfield

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Flimsy evidence here of much that meets WP:GNG criteria, the article mostly hangs upon a linkedIn page, profiles in publications he writes for, and other primary sources. Being co-named as an 'Innovator of the Year' by a regional Chamber of Commerce doesn't count for anything. Time for this promotional article to go. Sionk ( talk) 22:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. HickoryOughtShirt?4 ( talk) 02:06, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Museum of Contemporary Digital Art

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Does not appear notable based on current sourcing or search for new sources. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 22:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was Already deleted. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Manufactured Museum of Digital Art

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I cannot find a single source. NCORP fail. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 22:43, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ Theredproject: this article turned out to be for a web site that was registered the same day the article was made. Almost a hoax. Se COIN for more. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 01:13, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Not seeing GNG shown here. There's some coverage but nothing convincing. No problem with recreation if suitable sourcing can be found. Fenix down ( talk) 06:31, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Lampung F.C.

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The article is unreferenced, and I can't find any corroborating information either at the enWiki page for the league that the team supposedly plays in or on idWiki. Searching online, I was only able to find results about Badak Lampung F.C., which is a different team. I'm honestly a bit uncertain about what to do at this juncture: I can't find evidence that this subject is notable, it doesn't seem appropriate to redirect to Liga 3 (Indonesia) as there's no mention of the team there, and redirecting to Badak Lampung may be inappropriate if there really is a real team named Lampung F. C. As a result, deletion may be the best possible option available to us if we can't find reliable sources covering the subject. signed, Rosguill talk 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • I'm unfortunately fine with a delete result - the Liga 3 is provincial and there are a number of similar teams. It's not impossible they're notable, but it's an extremely difficult search. SportingFlyer T· C 02:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is very confusing. The article says that this team was formerly called "PSBL Bandar Lampung", but PSBL Bandar Lampung has its own page and still exists [1] (Yeah, the website is really called "Lampost", presumably acronym of "Lampung Post"). And a template on idWiki lists them as different teams [2]. And finally, there's Badak Lampung F.C., which plays in the second league and is thus more notable and gets more editor attention. So "Lampung F.C." seems to be a team of its own, but lacks notability, and the information on the current page about is flawed. – Austronesier ( talk) 08:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Add The "official site"-link is just a newsblog which mentions that "Lampung F.C." were runner-up for the 2014 Liga Indonesia Premier Division, but—alas—they didn't make it [3]. That was their 15 minutes of fame, and the article was created more or less at that time. – Austronesier ( talk) 08:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment Lampung F.C. was runner-up of the 2013 Indonesian Premier Division (LPIS), which was a dualism and unofficial version of Indonesia Premier Division. And I found it funny that Lampung FC is redirected to Badak Lampung F.C. which is no connection between both teams. Lampung FC wasn't part of PSSI in 2014 but joined in Liga 3 Lampung in 2017. And it's different with PSBL. Wira rhea ( talk) 05:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 16:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - They were the top team in the second tier in 2013, and went on the final in the play-offs. This would have made them arguably one of the best non-fully professional teams in the country. Their players might not be quite notable - but how is the team not notable? This was extensively reported in the media at the time example. At the risk of "other things" the other 20 teams that played in tier 2 that season all have articles. A separate question is if this is the same team as PSBL Bandar Lampung - and if so one the articles should redirect to the other. Nfitz ( talk) 21:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment PSBL Bandar Lampung and Lampung F.C. are not the same team, see here [4]. – Austronesier ( talk) 10:17, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sourcing issues have not been adequately addressed. If the newspapers turn up more, then this could benefit from another discussion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Nicole Kehrberger

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Non notable artist, fails WP:ARTIST. Didn't received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Most of sources doesn't pass WP:RS, they all are about event news, regular news etc. Other than some passing mention, i didn't found anything. আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 18:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Thanks but how https://issuu.com is reliable site WP:RS or how a passing mention on theatre site like http://www.klpteatro.it & http://www.criticiditeatro.it/ proves she is notable? anyway Premio della critica doesn't says she won any award there. -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 17:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Please indicate which source are good. Could you please tell me how a passing mention on [5] or [6] or [7] are significant coverage & pass WP:RS? -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 15:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:47, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Does not meet WP:NCORP, lack of independent, in-depth coverage in RS. Sources are all all primary or routine press-releases. MB 17:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. The majority of articles are, as stated, press releases, doctor reviews or generic statements of location expansion or employee acquisitions. News articles are more about the doctors affiliated with the organization vs. the institute itself, along the lines of "Dr. Whozit, a practitioner at the Illinois Bone and Joint Institute, did this thing...". Most of the article's references point back to their own website. The institute hasn't been around long enough to have deep research, historic or cultural significance. LovelyLillith ( talk) 18:03, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Wikipedia is not the Yellow Pages nor a platform for promotion. None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability and I am unable to locate any that do. Topic fails WP:GNG/ wp:NCORP. HighKing ++ 20:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Nem Um Talvez

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Not notable. Unsourced since 2009. Vmavanti ( talk) 23:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Sources added by AllyD & Lunar Clock are good enough for the article to be kept. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 14:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: The current sourcing certainly isn't enough for the article to be kept. The Morton one contains less than half a sentence. The So What book contains a few sentences on legal problems. I can't access the It's about that Time book, but all it sources in the article is the sentence "On the record, it is wrongly attributed to Miles Davis". The relevant criteria here are WP:NSONG – in particular, "a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album". Unless more information can be sourced, a redirect to / merge with Live-Evil (Miles Davis album) is therefore appropriate. EddieHugh ( talk) 17:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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This page should not be considered for deletion as it is based on true references which are reliable and neutral.Also it is likely to follow wikipedia guidelines and rules.So it should be removed from Articles for deletion.Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadulhassan2 ( talkcontribs) 17:46, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Shah Sulaimān Nūri

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A person in the religious lineage of a small Pakistani sect. No reliable sources quoted. One of a string of recently created articles by the same editor. Delete or draftify. kashmīrī  TALK 12:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment This and similar articles are not encyclopaedically written but I think their notability is open to debate. We regard all bishops of major Christian denominations as notable, but I don’t think we have clear guidelines for Islam. There’s a case that the head of a tariqa in a country is automatically notable. I’m not !voting on this one but would be interested in working with some editors in drafting some notability guidelines for Muslim bios. Please leave a note on my talk page if you’re interested. Mccapra ( talk) 06:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Even NBISHOP (which is an essay, not a policy) requires "significant coverage in multiple verifiable independent, reliable sources". The article has been AfD's because of lack of such sources. Moreover, a high-ranking official of the Catholic Church usually is, I am sorry to say, of a different calibre than a village "holy man", hardly known beyond the nearest town, and mostly just a name in the religious lineage that each and every South Asian sect must compulsorily offer for its faithful. For Shah Sulaimān Nūri, do you see any real information other than the fact that he was "learned and pious" and his parents were "kind and noble"? — kashmīrī  TALK 10:09, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • First of all, User :Kashmiri I respect your point of view about this article.I want to say that he is not just "learned and pious" or just a "kind and noble" personality.He is a historical personality in the 16th century.You can see his historical presence in the existing article, Muhammad Qadiri in the title of "Golden Chain".so he was not just a noble and learned man,he was a man with a history in Qadiriyya silsila.While the fact that he is hardly known beyond the nearest town is totally baseless.Why would someone from 200 km or 300 km away write book on him if he is hardly known beyond the nearest town?.And in case of reliable and independent sources,you can watch the sources that these sources have no directly link with the "personality".so i just request you to reconsider your view about this article..Thank you so much. User:Saadulhassan2
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This article should not be removed because it is truely based on a historical personality which is proven by the sources.This article likely to follow guidelines,rules and regulation of wikipedia.So i request to remove this article from Article for Deletion.My best wishes

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Shah Maroof Khushabi

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A person in the religious lineage of a small Pakistani sect. No reliable sources quoted. One of a string of recently created articles by the same editor. Delete or draftify. kashmīrī  TALK 12:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment This and similar articles are not encyclopaedically written but I think their notability is open to debate. We regard all bishops of major Christian denominations as notable, but I don’t think we have clear guidelines for Islam. There’s a case that the head of a tariqa in a country is automatically notable. I’m not !voting on this one but would be interested in working with some editors in drafting some notability guidelines for Muslim bios. Please leave a note on my talk page if you’re interested. Mccapra ( talk) 06:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:51, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I am not convinced that this company meets WP:NCORP. While there are some sources out there, the coverage is either trivial or consists of press releases announcing their acquisition of a new brand. There may be more sources available in Arabic that I am not able to find, however. Yunshui  12:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Except for Ko Ko Chit Chit, none of the "keep" opinions proposes or discusses relevant sources. But sources are what matters in this discussion. Sandstein 16:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Not able to find anything substantial enough to establish notability. Does not meet WP:CORPDEPTH or WP:GNG. Hitro talk 09:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep I agree that the article requires improvement but has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources from Myanmar's biggest newspaper The Myanmar Times [8], [9], [10]. The existing source in the article can establish notability. The VMG is a major telecommunications service company in my country. The company once hold biggest telecommunications market in Myanmar and has launched a first ever licensed international Calling card, Ytalk (Once in Myanmar, Ytalk used to be more popular than Viber). When the sources are in Burmese language, it does not mean that that is not notable. If you can't read the Burmese language sources? please use the Google web-translation. Thanks "KoKoChitChit" ( talk) 05:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Comment "Significant coverage in multiple reliable sources" is not the full extent of the requirements to establish notability. For example, you have ignored the requirement that the article must contain "Independent Content". You provided three references:
    • Just because the sources are in another language doesn't mean that our policies and guidelines on establishing notability don't apply. Please read WP:NCORP. Thank you. HighKing ++ 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Easily meets WP:GNG. No compliance with WP:Before. Understanding that this is in part because of systemic bias (language) in Wikipedia. 7&6=thirteen ( ) 14:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Pointing out WP:BEFORE and WP:BIAS without giving any reason why it meets WP:GNG easily, is in fact a very weak and dubious rationale for keep. I seriously do not understand why you mentioned WP:BEFORE when there is already a delete !vote posted above. Now for your info, there are only 3 considerable sources available about this topic, all are included here or in the article. You could have known that if you have done WP:BEFORE before !voting. All the three sources have been analysed above by HighKing an hour before you !voted. None of the available sources is near WP:SIGCOV. WP:BIAS is an essay, not a policy, above all not a reason for a wild card entry into Wikipedia mainspace. Hitro talk 08:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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May not meet the notability guideline, and sources are mainly primary sources. Article may also be written by someone in close connection with the subject. Mopswade ( talk) 11:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable publication. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. czar 04:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable news website that does not meet ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)) James Richards 02:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Han Terra. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:15, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

A Maestro Who Saved Girl Ginius

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I can only find the article's subject on digital stores (Amazon, iTunes, etc.), I could not find a site that mentions its background or a site with reviews. The article is already marked for being written like an advertisement. Not to mention, the article is also misspelled (a page move could fix this, but why bother, when this article clearly lacks notability). -- D1119 ( talk) 02:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ( talkcontribs) 14:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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1. This page is an orphan 2. Very few citations 3. Unremarkable company 4. Little activity 5. Conflict of interest. (edits by user Renthal1969), has been marked as promotional many times. JamesHSmith6789 ( talk) 21:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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WP:NEOLOGISM that isn't in common use. A Google search brings up a bunch of hits for a single research paper using this phrase. One research paper does not a notable neologism make. Hog Farm ( talk) 20:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Maritime republics. Protection requested at WP:RPP (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:13, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This was a redirect to Maritime republics until today when an IP wrote or rewrote this completely garbled version. User:Doug Weller restored their redirect but it was removed again. It’s an incoherent ramble which will only serve to mislead readers, so I’m bringing it here. Mccapra ( talk) 20:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Death of Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez

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Reviewed under new article curation process. Essentially a very specific news event which fails Wikipedia:Notability (events), has no in depth coverage to satisfy wp:GNG. Article was previously deleted. North8000 ( talk) 20:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Delete or merge As nominator. Per reasons in nom. North8000 ( talk) 21:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Puddleglum 2.0( How's my driving?) 17:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Will You? (Hazel O'Connor song)

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Another song title that should just be a redirect to its album, and another one that's not going to get there without a detour to AfD... the only source here that is "substantial" is a primary source, by O'Connor herself [11] (plus there is a book - also by her). The rest only ever fleetingly touches on the song [12], or is lists. Not article material. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 20:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: I will of course stand by the result of the AfD, but as the person who restored this article and added sources, I do honestly believe that a song that was a top ten hit in two countries and sold a quarter of a million copies in one of them is far from being not notable, and that it's simply the song's age that prevents further sources from being found online – anyone who was listening to music in the UK in the early 1980s will know this is a very well known song indeed. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:16, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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But that's not how we roll - for any topic. If everyone has heard about X but no one (independently, substantially) has written about it, then we do not have the basis for an article. The approach of "people have heard of it, and we'll just pull material from connected sources and scattered tidbits to fill the article" is not good encyclopedic procedure, and not accepted for any topic on WP - it's not just songs. WP:NSONG is really quite clear about that, and I wish people would check their song articles against that before putting in all the work. I don't enjoy shooting these down either :/ -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 20:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I understand that, and I know that my statement is anecdotal, but the top ten hits and certification aren't. My big problem here is that Wikipedia has an enormous systemic bias towards recent songs and albums, because it's easy to find information on them online, and we will never redress this imbalance unless someone has access to print media from the past and is prepared to spend literally years sitting down and going through it to create decent articles for records from the 1980s and 1990s. Additionally, it's so easy to gain certifications nowadays through streaming (you don't even have to release the record to have it certified), almost every song released now will be considered "notable" because of this, even if they have zero content – I came across this article the other day, for example... to me, it has far less encyclopedic content than the subject of this AfD. But because it has a diamond certification, there is no chance of it being deleted at AfD, even though it tells you next to nothing about the song. Richard3120 ( talk) 21:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
That's so. If the material isn't online, it's much harder to create a well-sourced article. But that's a consequence of our sourcing model, and the other side of the coin of "all statements can be checked by the reader". - Re Va Bene (L'Algérino song), well that's an obvious candidate for deletion, if no more substantial coverage can be found... umpteen million views notwithstanding. In fact I'll have a check now, and if nothing comes up, to AfD it goes. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 22:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I do get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to pick a fight - I've seen your contributions at AfD and page reviewing, and I'm appreciative of your work. I just think we differ in our assessment of what is likely to be notable, if the sources were readily available. I could look at Welcome Home (Peters and Lee song) and Prince Charming (Adam and the Ants song), and once I take out all the unsourced original research and poorly sourced material, all I'm left with for both songs is basically "it reached number one in the UK". The articles would be just a chart position and little else. But... they were both the third biggest-selling singles in the UK in their respective years, 1973 and 1981. Are the articles in their current state complete crap? Undoubtedly. Do I think they should be deleted because the only thing I can verify at present is their chart position? No, not really - if they were outsold by only two records that year, to me that indicates that they are probably notable, if only I had access to print sources from the time. But I don't think we are going to convince each other of our positions here. Richard3120 ( talk) 22:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: The song is a Top 10 hit in UK & Ireland. I even found a couple of sources about the song: [13] and [14]. The said sources, including most of the ones stated in the article (except for her book since it's considered a primary source), make the article good enought to pass WP:NSONG. My vote stands. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 02:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Little less attitude, little more reasonable comments, please. Are these sources supposed to be jokes? Did you just randomly google the words "will you"? Sheesh. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 03:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
We may be on opposite sides of the debate, but I'm in agreement with Elmidae here – two passing mentions of the song, one of which is simply the author saying it was playing on the radio during one event in his life, do not constitute passes of notability... I mean, "radio station plays song" is not exactly an earth-shattering event. Richard3120 ( talk) 14:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Ok. I'll disregard this one, a literature which merely mentions the song. I found a couple more sources which partially explain about the song: [15] and [16]. I have explained enough. And I won't reply any further as my vote stands. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 04:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Sigh Necrothesp - not expecting anything different from Andrew, but from an admin this gets me. Are you among those who do not understand that the criteria at WP:NALBUM (and WP:NSONG) are not pass criteria, but criteria that indicate that there may exist sufficient in-depth coverage to allow a pass? There is no such thing as "pass by WP:NALBUM #2". You still have to demonstrate that coverage exists. Where is it? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 13:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I understand Wikipedia perfectly well. I've been here 16 years. My opinion, as clearly stated, stands. This is an AfD discussion. Wikipedia does not have strict inclusion criteria. If it did we wouldn't bother with AfDs at all. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 13:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Argument from seniority plus "I do not have to demonstrate anything, I haz opinion". I'm impressed. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 13:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I'm not impressed with your attitude, frankly. But there we go. It's quite obvious nobody else yet agrees with you, so let's just leave it for the closer and stop the arrogant, patronising and insulting tone that you seem to have adopted. As you said above, Little less attitude, little more reasonable comments, please. Applies to you too. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 11:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. Nominator turns out to be a blocked sock. MelanieN ( talk) 20:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on the performing arts

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Not relevant, too many micropages about Coronavirus Kilographography ( talk) 19:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Lynno Lovert

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non notable actor, 0 reliable sources and likely vanity spam Praxidicae ( talk) 19:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I created the page and I don't think it should be deleted because Lynno Lovert is indeed an actor. Here are some articles that support that fact:

https://www.missginapromotes.com/1153-2/ https://dcodedtv.com/lynno-lovert-breaks-silence-reveals-mothers-cause-of-death/ https://www.betatinz.com/2020/02/lynno-lovert-onyama-laura-and-godisz.html

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These are some other articles that prove that he is indeed a notable actor: https://lefilmcamerounais.com/2018/09/25/people-quatre-acteurs-et-actrices-a-decouvrir-2/

https://www.journalducameroun.com/en/cameroonian-movie-saving-mbango-premieres-in-douala-on-saturday/

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The result was keep. Copyvios can be resolved by normal processes -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:30, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This article or section have been copied and pasted from ( https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-016-0654-y), possibly in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please find the CopyVios report. Amkgp ( talk) 18:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Only one source, which is self-published. Interwikis are unsourced; the PT one has just been SDed by me. Can't find anything beyond trivial on Google. Victão Lopes Fala! 18:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This was rejected as a draft at WP:afc, the rejection has been vociferously argued against at a number of venues by User:AlejandroLeloirRey so I accepted the article and have bought it here for wider participation into whether it passes WP:GNG. I am neutral. Theroadislong ( talk) 18:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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As a support for his notability (before 2017 so before he become known as a porn actor who become a professor) see that he was the first and only gay porn stars ever accepted in the circuit of the national Italian tv. He was the guest star of the most important Italian tv shows. For example this video is from his FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/RuggeroFreddi/videos/253527992083794/ . It is Chiambretti Night one of the most followed Italian tv show and he was the Guest Star (he was the special guest there a few times) https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/porn-actor-carlo-masi-attends-chiambretti-night-italian-tv-news-photo/98752998, and this was 2010 so way before he became a professor. Moreover he was on National Italian newspaper when he acted in a theater piece of Beckett: la Repubblica- article, Corriere della Sera- article, La Stampa- article. these are article entirely about him not a mere mention and the articles say that he was chosen because the director was looking for a porn star as a symbol of desire.-- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 21:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: I see good sourcing here. I think the news coverage on the teacher/porn actor controversy gave Masi an opportunity to participate in Italy's national debate about sexuality. The Carlo Masi article on Italian Wikipedia is even longer and more comprehensively sourced. I know that the fact that a page exists on another language Wikipedia doesn't mean it's notable on English WP, but it does support the creator's claim that the subject has been well covered in Italian media. — Toughpigs ( talk) 21:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete If we judged this subject as an entertainer WP:ENT they would fail. If we judged them as a academic WP:PROF they would fail. The fact that they were both a non-notable entertainer and a non-notable academic does not somehow make them notable, no matter the contrast of the two occupations. There's been plenty of other newscycle stories about pornographic actors going on to work in a more humble or unexpected occupation. The uniqueness makes for a fun news story and that's why they got coverage, but Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, nor is it a celebrity gossip site. Sulfurboy ( talk) 03:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Fails both WP:Prof and WP:GNG. Xxanthippe ( talk) 08:11, 15 April 2020 (UTC). reply
  • Delete. The sourcing...is not good. Out of the present 39 refs, around 15 are to Siti's book. While Siti is a great writer, this is not a straight biography; it would be described as a novelisation of someones life. An online review [18] google translates as "After all, “ what is a true story? Does the truth-novel exist? Truth has to do with science and jurisprudence, not with literature or with life ”. Which means that the question is irrelevant: that the two stories are more or less truthful, more or less exact in recalling the unfolding of the facts, the narration is authentic, thanks to that narrative voice that allows you to trace the origin of the speech in reality outside the text, without being bound to it. It is not reality that interests the writer..." It is literature rather than biography, seems to be listed as a novel at Amazon and so not WP:RS, especially for a BLP. IMDB appears twice, and the subjects listing at the Adult Films Database (which seems to be as reliable a source as IMDB) is used as well. So half the references are to non reliable sources. Curdle ( talk) 09:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Siti explains in the last chapter of the book that all the facts described in the book have all actually happened. For the other "unreliable sources" it is important to see the context in which they are used, for example if they are used to prove specific fact like he was on a cover than anything that actually shows that cover will do.-- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 10:18, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
      • Historical novels often have a similar note. The author himself describes the book as a novel! again, from that review "since, as the author points out in the concluding note, “it is easy to say 'true story' : if the story is told in a novel , it cannot be completely true " It doesn't mean they are WP:RS. And sources "to prove he was on the cover" need to be more than a link to the cover itself (primary source), secondary sources are what is needed to provide notability. Curdle ( talk) 11:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, meets GNG even if sourcing is in Italian. Sources for porn performers is notoriously hard to find but hopefully more will be found, including video interviews. Gleeanon409 ( talk) 10:03, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - # User:AlejandroLeloirRey, created this page in mainspace, which was moved to draft space by first reviewer with the reason that it's improperly sourced. # Then Second reviewer rejected the draft submission it again for the same reason. # Third time I rejected it saying subject is not notable (Obviously, even here many agree with me, that sources are not reliable+not much sign of notability as per policies and much more). by the time the creator has gone to several pages including talk pages of all the reviewers, teahouse, afc help page and asked further questions about it. Not just that as this was needed but they also raised questions on other such pornbios on the same lines on which their draft was rejected. This utter desperateness shows strong signs of COI/self promotion and I won't vote to keep it. They have made almost 94 edits on the draft and all of their other edits around 300 are on other pages to pursue others to accept this draft which makes me more negative. Additionally personal attacks on my talkpage and some other pages are not acceptable at all. QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 07:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • is this a personal attack WP:PA ? are we discussing me or the bio? If I did something wrong you can suspend me or block me but this has nothing to do with carlo's bio. This is not a voting process, only arguments count so what is the point of this comment?. If you don't feel that carlo's bio should stay I am fine with it, but don't personally attack me, please.-- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 08:50, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak delete – I have been on the fence about this one. There are a lot of sources that look very reliable on the face of it, but even so I don't think notability is met. First, the person is clearly not notable as a performer ( WP:NACTOR), second, he is clearly not notable as an academic ( WP:NPROF). So any notability will have to stem from WP:ANYBIO coverage in secondary sources, and there, I think WP:BLP1E applies – there were a flurry of newspaper reports surrounding one event as discussed in the section "Media attention", but nothing more sustained. As for the book, that clearly can't be used to verify any information given the fact that it is a fictionalised account. Even so, the fact that the person is the subject of (part of) a book is probably the strongest claim to notability – but I do not believe that that on its own makes him meet WP:GNG. -- bonadea contributions talk 17:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep (but trim) per WP:BASIC based on sustained independent coverage. During Masi's porn career, he received coverage: XBIZ 2008 and AVN 2009. In 2011, he was included in the book, Gay Porn Heroes: 100 Most Famous Porn Stars by J. C. Adams. When Masi transitioned into theater, he received coverage: la Repubblica 2010. Masi received the most coverage with his transition to academia: Vanity Fair 2017 and Pink News 2018. His 2018 civil union/marriage was covered by the press: Gay Star News, On Top Magazine, Pink News, Queerty. In 2020, he is a subject of a book by Walter Siti [ it [19]. TJMSmith ( talk) 21:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. As stated above, there are reliable sources and sustained coverage beyond WP:BLP1E. Passes WP:GNG. -- MarioGom ( talk) 09:46, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. We don't judge why someone is notable, so long as they pass WP:GNG because of WP:SIGCOV. In this case, there is significant, ongoing coverage, in part because of the incongruity of a "porn star" becoming a math professor. WP:ODD and April Fool's Day WP:DYK are filled with such articles. As an adult actor, he was a big star in dozens of films, from a major adult film studio, and won top awards in his field (pardon the puns). As an academic, he would not normally be notable, but many academics become famous for controversy rather than publishing. His marriage/civil union was widely reported in almost every gay publication and web site. Bearian ( talk) 02:23, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Metroid (fictional species). (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I'm not seeing any notability for this fictional character. Was previously deleted, but as a redirect. I'm not a video game expert so taking this to AFD not PROD. WP:GNG fail. Hog Farm ( talk) 18:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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That does not make the character notable per Wikipedia standards. Per Wikipedia:GNG for a subject to be notable we need significant coverage from multiple reliale sources that are independent of the subject. To be blunt unless quality sources are found soon this article doesn't stand a chance of being kept.-- 69.157.252.96 ( talk) 19:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I also noticed that they converted the dappage SR 388 to an unsourced article about the fictional planrt, can someone please restore?-- 69.157.252.96 ( talk) 20:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Little coverage from reputable news sources, although it is founded by a former Prime Minister of Haiti according to Wikipedia policy this company still fails to meet the requirements since it cannot inherit notability. James Richards ( talk) 08:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Has not appeared in an NFL game, only an offseason part of a team. He may have some notability from his college performance, but couldn't find RS. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:28, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Never played an NFL game, and simply was an offseason member of several teams. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Never played an NFL game, and simply was an offseason member of a team. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Never played an NFL game, and simply was an offseason member of teams. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Academic Challenger ( talk) 16:55, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Campaign advertisement masquerading as a Wikipedia article. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 17:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete a non-notable candidate for public office. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails WP:NPOL. Wikipedia is also not a WP:CRYSTALBALL. Try Ballotpedia. KidAd ( talk) 18:05, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I'd requested this to be draftified at REFUND so I could put it together, but it looks like someone else created a new article in the meantime. Anyway, I think this pretty clearly meets GNG:
    Post-Super-Tuesday sources: [20] [21] [22] [23].
    Earlier sources: [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31]
    Bolded sources are listed as "generally reliable" on RSP, although of course that doesn't preclude the others from being reliable sources. I didn't bold Buzzfeed News, because the article is post-2019, and therefore "some editors recommend exercising more caution." Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 19:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    Also, it’s worth noting that all of the sources I linked were published after the last AfD nomination. Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 19:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, clearly there are enough sources out there to pass GNG, and these sources also clearly provide exceptional coverage as he has been covered in National News publications, not just local media. Devonian Wombat ( talk) 22:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. People do not get Wikipedia articles just for running as candidates in elections they have not won, but the existence of some campaign coverage is not in and of itself a WP:GNG-based exemption from having to pass WP:NPOLevery candidate in every election everywhere can always show some evidence of campaign coverage, so if that were how it worked then every candidate would always be exempted from NPOL, and NPOL itself would literally never apply to anybody at all anymore. Rather, to make a non-winning candidate for office notable enough for a Wikipedia article, he needs to pass one of two tests: either (a) he already had preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten him an article independently of the candidacy, or (b) he can demonstrate a reason why his candidacy would pass the ten year test for enduring significance, such that even if he loses the election and then never accomplishes another more notable thing again as long as he lives, people will still be looking for information about him in 2030 because of the sheer lasting importance of his candidacy itself.
    Furthermore, even if he did pass either NPOL or GNG, he would still not be allowed to have an article that was written like a campaign brochure: that is, bulletpointed lists of his political opinions sourced to his self-published Twitter tweets are not support for his notability. Notability does not hinge on what the subject says, it hinges on what the subject accomplishes. But of the 34 footnotes here, 18 are tweets, three are to his own self-published website about his own campaign, four are other primary sources like other people's or organizations' self-published websites, three are to raw tables of election results, one is a YouTube video and one is a user-generated personal essay on Medium.com — which means 30 of the 34 footnotes are not reliable or notability-supporting sources at all, and the four that are left aren't enough to make his candidacy more special than everybody else's candidacies. Even Gaelan's 12 sources above still aren't enough to make his candidacy more special than everybody else's candidacies, because every other candidate can always also show 12 sources.
    As always, Wikipedia's job is not to maintain an article about everybody whose name happens to show up in the current news cycle — we consider the enduring significance of our article subjects, not just their temporary newsiness, and simply running as a candidate in an election the person has not won is not automatically a mark of enduring significance in and of itself. Bearcat ( talk) 20:35, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    Bearcat: I have several issues with this argument.
    First, as best I can tell, your argument has little basis in policy. NPOL explicitly allows for candidates to get articles if they pass GNG, and GNG has no requirement that the subject has an unusual amount of coverage or anything like that.
    However, the amount of coverage here is pretty exceptional. Unusually for a House candidate, he's received extensive coverage in the national media. The reason for this—which also forms a pretty good argument for the 10 year test, IMO—is in the headline of the Intercept article: NANCY PELOSI TO RECEIVE FIRST GENUINE LEFT-WING CHALLENGE IN 30 YEARS. This is one of the most important figures in US politics, who has been considered untouchable for 30 years, receiving a credible challenge. In 10 years, Buttar will either be notable because he won (and served as an example of the Democratic party's shift into the "AOC era") or lost, and served to demonstrate the limits of that shift. The fact that candidacy got to this point—a general election challenge—is notable.
    Finally, the state of the article now is not a notability argument. I completely agree that the current citations aren't great, but that's why I found a bunch more sources! And sure, every candidate can find 12 sources. But in the national media? I'm pretty sure that's unusual. Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 23:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Firstly, the understanding and interpretation of policies is debated and disputed all the time on here. So it isn't just a matter of reading the letter of a policy statement — you also have to familiarize yourself with established consensus around how the policies are applied in actual practice when they come up for debate in similar situations. And the established consensus is as I described: every candidate in every election can always show some evidence of campaign coverage, and thus every candidate in every election can always claim that they have passed GNG and are therefore exempted from having to satisfy NPOL at all — so we have an established consensus that the existence of some campaign coverage is not in and of itself enough, precisely because our established consensus that candidates are not all notable enough for articles on here would be inherently meaningless if every candidate could always exempt themselves from it.
    GNG is not simply a matter of counting up the footnotes and keeping anybody who technically meets or exceeds an arbitrary number of them: GNG is also a matter of testing for the context of what the person is getting covered for, and treating some contexts as less notability-making than other contexts. A person with just one or two media hits can pass GNG if those hits are verifying that the person has accomplished something we deem "inherently" notable, and a person with 15 or 20 media hits can fail GNG if those hits all exist in contexts that are not accepted as "inherently" notable. For instance, if a person wins election to an NPOL-passing office, then you get to start the article as soon as one source can be added to verify that they won the election, and it will be kept on that basis even though it still needs significant improvement before it can actually be considered a good article — but a person who has merely been a non-winning candidate for office, or a holder of a minor local office (such as a smalltown municipal councillor) that is not accepted as a notable one, can still fall below the notability bar even with sourcing that numbers well into the double digits, if they cannot show strong evidence that they're markedly more special than the tens or hundreds of thousands of other people who've done the same thing. Similarly, we also have a rule called WP:BLP1E, whereby people who receive a blip of media coverage in the context of a specific event, but cannot show any enduring notability outside that specific event, are not automatically entitled to keep articles just because they've technically passed an arbitrary number of media hits.
    As I said before, we consider the enduring notability of our article topics, not just their current newsiness: making a candidate notable enough for a Wikipedia article is not simply a matter of showing that his name exists in the current news cycle, it is a matter of demonstrating that his candidacy would pass the ten year test for enduring importance. Basically, if you can't show that he had preexisting notability for another reason that would already have gotten him an article anyway, then the test he has to pass is not just a reason why he might be of interest to some people today, but a credible and convincing reason why an article about him will still be necessary in 2030. Bearcat ( talk) 04:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
First off, congratulations on winning the “Wall of Text award for unnecessary explanation”. Secondly, BLP1E cannot be invoked here because the coverage identified was published months apart, clearly not just in the course of one news cycle. And also, there was clearly an argument set out that you just ignored completely that the nature of this coverage would cause this person to pass the 10-year rule. Your position inexplicably seems to be that being just a candidate for office automatically disqualifies someone from having a Wikipedia page, which is ridiculous. Devonian Wombat ( talk) 21:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Firstly, I didn't say BLP1E has anything to do with this — I raised BLP1E as an example of why just counting the footnotes for their number is not an automatic GNG-maker in and of itself. It's merely one example of how our policies explicitly state that the number of media hits the person can show counts for a lot less toward the notability race than the context of what the person is getting covered for does. And secondly, any notability claim that boils down in its essence to "first person with X characteristic to do a not inherently notable thing" is not in and of itself a WP:10YT-passing notability claim. Being an incumbent officeholder's "first left-wing challenger in Y amount of time" is not, in and of itself, a reason why any significant number of people would still remember his name in 2030, even if he loses the race he's running in. Being an incumbent politician's "first left-wing challenger" is not inherently important or enduringly noteworthy in and of itself. Bearcat ( talk) 14:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • @ Bearcat:

    then the test he has to pass is not just a reason why he might be of interest to some people today, but a credible and convincing reason why an article about him will still be necessary in 2030

    In case you missed it, I made a case for this in the comment you replied to. Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 19:09, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Fails WP:NBIO, online search does not yield any independent sources, article on the Italian Wikipedia is no different. ToThAc ( talk) 17:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Article deleted via PROD, restored via REFUND. Non-notable entity, written as promotion. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 17:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Basically, the article is about three short fan-films based on the Saw franchise. None of these films passes the basic notability threshold of significant coverage in reliable third-party sources and the only sources provided about the films are their IMDb pages, a source that we consider unreliable. The article also contains a few paragraphs about fan films that are simply copied from the article Fan film. Pichpich ( talk) 17:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Another list of expatriate football people that's just arbitrary glorification. Fails WP:LISTCRUFT and WP:GNG. KingSkyLord ( talk | contribs) 17:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. Merge can be discussed separately. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This book is, obviously, abject nonsense on a stick. The question for Wikipedia is: sure, it's bollocks, but is it notable bollocks? I argue not. There are remarkably few sources about the book itself. Those we have are generally not the kinds of sources that establish notability for books. Skeptical Inquirer, for example.

In fact the sourcing on Emoto's article is also sparse and several overlap. There is really only one subject here - Masaru Emooto's nonsensical beliefs about water - and few, if any, reliable sources that address the book without addressing Emoto's methods. A merge to a single title, Masaru Emoto (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), seems to me to provide better overal coverage of this amusing but ultimately trivial backwater of woo. Guy ( help!) 17:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

( WP:OTHER alert), hell I have seen books kept with fewer sources than this. Slatersteven ( talk) 17:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • This: There are other times when it is better to cover notable topics...as part of a larger page about a broader topic, with more context...Sometimes, several related topics, each of them similarly notable, can be collected into a single page, where the relationships between them can be better appreciated than if they were each a separate page. Having separate articles constitutes WP:Undue weight. We have here an author, his fringe theory, and the book he wrote to promote it. These are all one interrelated topic which should not be split up. Reader understanding is indeed improved by having the context of the other article be together with this information. Crossroads -talk- 03:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I think the book's article does a pretty good job showing that the subject is bunk without needing to be in the authors article. He also wrote several books on the subject should they all be covered in his article, assuming sufficient RS coverage of course? But I do not know about it not having an article to stop nonsense from growing, not sure I agree with that argument. It is established to have enough independent RS coverage to exceed requirements for a notable book, because its junk science does not change that. PackMecEng ( talk) 15:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Merge and Redirect to Masaru Emoto The sources given for notability of the article do not establish notability independent of the author so merging to the parent topic per WP:NOPAGE, as Crossroads points out, is appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The sources *do* establish notability. The fact that the book is obviously full of nonsense is not a policy-based argument for deletion or merger, so far as I understand. ApLundell ( talk) 23:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep* The book was a New York Times Bestseller, it should have a Wikipedia page. I agree that it was utter nonsense, but it was still a New York Times Bestseller. Maybe this fact tells more about the audience than the book itself. I guess this page deserves to be kept as it makes an interesting story about how a book full of nonsense became a Bestseller. There should be content on Wikipedia which can successfully object Prejudice about these bestselling lists. Inkmesh ( talk) 06:38, 19 April (UTC)
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

5th Republic (musical)

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Doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY. 2015 AfD closed as no consensus, minimal engagement. Boleyn ( talk) 16:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. This is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Once this has had a professional off-Broadway or Broadway run, then it will be notable. Hundreds of works are tried out at the NYMF, but they are not notable until they have a notable professional theatrical run. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 07:13, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I couldn't establish that they meet WP:NBAND or WP:GNG, however I'm aware I'm limited language-wise. Boleyn ( talk) 16:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hard to evaluate, but I couldn't establish that he meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Possible redirect to 3MA, but their notability is also in question. Boleyn ( talk) 16:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Medical prescription#Legibility. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The old trope of doctors bad handwriting is, well, a trope. It's not encyclopedic and rarely are stereotypes notable outside of a historic context. Praxidicae ( talk) 16:05, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

I looked at that source but could not find the citation to the actual report, can someone post a link to the report? Erkin Alp Güney 19:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Yeah, we don't rely on anything reddit has to say. Praxidicae ( talk) 18:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I linked to an image as an example, not the discussion as a proof. Erkin Alp Güney 18:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The citation I have added in the last edit shows that this is not the case, telling that it is intentionally unreadable. Erkin Alp Güney 14:53, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Not limited to prescriptions. See post of mine above. Erkin Alp Güney 13:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Not a vote "the deletion process is a discussion and not a vote", says the guide. Erkin Alp Güney 08:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
In addition, discussion entries are not meant to be edited. Undone the strikethrough for you. 08:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
"Do not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one. The recommended way of doing this is to use strike-through by enclosing a retracted statement between and after the *, as in "• Delete Keep"." "You can explain your earlier recommendation in response to others but do not repeat a bolded recommendation on a new bulleted line." You are being disruptive. Reywas92 Talk 18:00, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Does not meet the notability requirements James Richards ( talk) 15:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:BIO. A source from a hospital or a university reporting on their own history, a passing mention, and primary sources? While being one of the first four to do something is an achievement, it doesn't automatically make someone notable, as there are by definition thousands of women to be the first to graduate in X at university Y. Lacks significant attention in independent sources. Fram ( talk) 15:28, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete there is not enough reliable 3rd party sourcing to show notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I'm seeing articles in medical journals; those should qualify as independent. She was one of the first two to graduate with a medical degree; they graduated the same day, so it does seem like a tie for first, doesn't it? First female in your coutry to have a medical degree is something. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 20:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • One article, in one medical journal, spends one line on Alice Robson ( [32] this is the same article, from a sister journal, available online: see page 240). The result here is very similar and equally lacks depth of attention to Robson. The moment, the event, is important: the person not so much. Fram ( talk) 07:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I have found other articles in popular US newspapers under her maiden name. I'll scour newspaper databases for more coverage. DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 14:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • And do any of them do anything but drop her name as "one of the graduates"? Because more passing mentions just show that the event of women graduating in Glasgow got some attention at the time, but not that Alice Robson herself got any real attention. Fram ( talk) 14:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Yes, she received more than passing mentions in the articles under her name at the time. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 11:17, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Good finds. Thanks for adding them. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 11:17, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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A promotional article, no enough coverage to prove he is a notable economist? Fails WP:GNG. Seems like started by himself, see User talk:Hammad1. Störm (talk) 14:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was Deleted as G12 on 14 April 2020, 07:31 (UTC) by User:Sphilbrick. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 19:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Minor Changes that Will Help Combat Global Warming

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essay/unencyclopedic. We already have plenty of articles on Global warming and sourced articles about proposed changes to negate the effects. Praxidicae ( talk) 14:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Perhaps, but Wikipedia isn't a WP:WEBHOST either, so it's not really appropriate for any space. Praxidicae ( talk) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
True. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 17:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Dings the auto-accept portion of WP:NPOL by virtue of being in Parliament. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Joe basically put a ballista bolt through the nomination statement. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • I'm writing to ask what is the problem with the page as:
(a) no such page for this individual,
(b) it's impossible for this page to be submerged into another page ie his page, as one doesn't even exist on Wikipedia.
(c) If it is a question of evidence for Elsie Jury then sufficient references do exist to substantiate information as to her lifetime contributions Elsie Jury from institutions such as the Royal Ontario Museum (Ontario, Canada), the Museum of Ontario Archaeology and companies such as Timmins Martelle Heritage Consultants Inc.
Please could a reason be provided why this page has to be deleted as it remains unclear as it seems is the problem is that the problem may be that this individual or was an academic, or was a practicing archaeologist/historian or a Canadian? If either of these is a problem I'm at a loss why this page ought to be deleted?
Best wishes and thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35winds ( talkcontribs) 13:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Ova Wise

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. All of the references cited in the article are about his non-notable single "Me & You". A Google search of the subject does not show him being discussed in reliable sources.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 12:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Puddleglum 2.0( How's my driving?) 00:27, 23 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Marricke Kofi Gane

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The subject fails WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR and WP:ANYBIO. All of the references in the article and online are about his unsuccessful presidential bid. The subject did not get media coverage prior to his announcement. He has authored 11 books but none of them are notable, and has held senior positions at several non-notable organizations. Per WP:BLP1E, he doesn't deserve to have a separate article at this time.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 12:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hi  Versace1608 , at this point looks like you really don't read the article I have written that you keep tagging for deletion. This subject has not had an unsuccessful presidential bid if you took time to follow properly you would know that he is still running for president but the formal nominations have not been opened yet. How that is unsuccessful I don't know. But yeah go on this would be my last response to you on any of the deletion nominations. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 13:05, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Owula kpakpo: Pardon me if his presidential bid isn't unsuccessful. That still doesn't change the fact that he is only known for a single event. None of his books were discussed in reliable sources and none of the organizations he held senior management roles at is notable.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 13:16, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Enock4seth: I misspoke about his bid being unsuccessful; having said that, he still fails WP:NPOLITICIAN and doesn't meet any requirements outlined in WP:AUTHOR and WP:ANYBIO. I will change my vote if you show me reliable coverage of him prior to his presidential bid and reliable coverage of his books being discussed in reliable sources.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 13:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: @ Versace1608:, you keep missing the point, again like I have been telling you it's easy to speak like that when you don't have the context and background of us living here and understanding what passes for notability or not. You are quick to jump to conclusion and come back to rationalize it. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 13:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Owula kpakpo: I am not missing any point. I have the right to nominate any article that doesn't meet our notability requirements. People are not notable simply because they are running to become their country's next president. Gane was not discussed in reliable sources prior to his presidential bid and all of the sources cited in the article are about said bid. I do not need to have any context or background man. I have written a few articles about Ghanaian celebrities, the likes of Efya and Becca.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 15:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Versace1608:, so the few you referred to are actually this two Efya and Becca so that pass you off as an authority on who notable Ghanaians are than those who actually live in Ghana. Like I said previously do whatever you want, have a nice day. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 11:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Owula kpakpo: For your info, I have created more than two Ghanaian-related articles; check my userpage if you want to count the number of Ghanaian-related article I have created. I am not claiming to be an expert in anything. I know a non-notable figure when I see one; Kane is a non-notable figure who does not meet our notability requirements at this time. You do not need to catch feelings over this. Like I said earlier, show me reliable coverage of him prior to his presidential bid and reliable coverage of his books being discussed in reliable sources. If you can do this, I will change my vote and withdraw the nomination.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 16:21, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Versace1608:, all I have to say about the article I have said above and I won't even go any further clearly this is your stock in trade and you enjoy doing it so keep at it. At least I know one thing this are the kinds of attitudes that makes it tough for some of the newbies we recruit to keep editing because someone with no contest would make volunteering to edit Wikipedia a hell for them. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 20:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Owula kpakpo: You really have things twisted man. I am not trying to make editing Wikipedia "a living hell" for anyone. If I do recruit any newbie here, I will make sure they properly familiarize themselves with our notability requirements. Doing so will prevent their articles from being nominated for deletion. There are some Wikipedia editors who consider themselves a deletionist; however, I do not see myself as one. I wish we had more African editors contributing to Wikipedia. BTW, I'm from Liberia. 21:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Keep the subject is definitely notable but please take off the linkedin link, it is not a source -- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 19:07, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Consensus that notability isn't met Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:49, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Elizabeth Amoaa

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. She is only known for being born with Uterus didelphys. Three of the article's five references are not independent of the subject. The first reference is about the health condition she has and not about her. The fifth reference is about some of the organizations she founded or is affiliated with.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 12:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Blockchain#Types. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Sidechain (ledger)

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Previously nominated by David Gerard and kept as no consensus, but with very little discussion and the only real Keep advocacy being the article's creator. This is a dictionary definition, basically, and there don't appear to be sources for it to be anything else. We can say what it is, and pretty much nothing else. Attempts to add sourcing have fallen at the usual hurdle: wikis and crypto bulletin boards are not reliable sources. I think this should be at best a redirect to blockchain. Guy ( help!) 11:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Redirect for now at most. This is a term that feels like it should be citable properly to Wikipedia standards ... but in years, we've singularly failed to - David Gerard ( talk) 13:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to blockchain. If suitable sources haven't turned up in years, then there's nothing else for us to say, and we don't need to take a whole page to say it. XOR'easter ( talk) 22:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Merge to Blockchain#Types. The previous AfD noted some reliable sources: A page or two in the book [45] published by CRC Press and a solid page in the book [46] published by Princeton University Press. There is a briefer mention in the book [47] published by O'Reilly. All three are good sources. They might be enough for marginal notability, but are definitely enough for verifiability of basic facts about sidechain technology. According to our policy WP:ATD, we prefer alternatives to deletion for verifiable material. In this case, sidechains are a special type of blockchain, so the blockchain article would be a good target for a merge. --{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk} 20:45, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Academic Challenger ( talk) 17:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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He doesn't meet any of the 6 criteria of WP:SOLDIER. In relation to WP:GNG, there are major WP:SIGCOV issues. Searching the biography ISBN on Google Books it states that the publisher is CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform which appears to be self-published and not Lighthorse Publishing Company as stated on the page, while Amazon shows no information. Reference 1 is Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association which is not WP:RS. Reference 3 is the VVA review of the book. The other sources all fall into "...only mentioned in passing in reliable secondary sources should not be considered notable for the purposes of a stand-alone article...". Mztourist ( talk) 11:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete does not meet inclusion criteria for soldiers. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:57, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as subject of a independent published book. The book was published in 2015, more than two decades after Cozzalio's death - clearly no direct relationship, although it appears his brother provided some photographs. Book was published by Lighthorse Publishing according to the book itself. The book received an award in the 2016 Independent Publisher Book Awards in the category Best Adult Non-Fiction Personal E-Book [48], and the author has published at least one other book. This book carries the Amazon rankings #198 in Vietnam War Biographies (Books), #272 in Military Aviation History (Books), and #172 in Military History (Books).
Furthermore, I would argue he is close enough to WP:SOLDIER#1 to make an exception for that. He has the second highest award - Distinguished Service Cross, once and so many other awards (Silver Star, Distinguished Flying Cross (4 times), Soldier's Medal, etc.) that I would consider them collectively equivalent to a second Distinguished Service Cross. MB 03:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The issue with the book is its reliability, which, as an independently published book, is questionable. Book rankings are irrelevant. One DSC and other lesser awards don't satisfy #1 of WP:SOLDIER. In any event WP:SOLDIER is just certain presumptions of notability and as I said above there are GNG concerns. Cozzalio appears to have served honorably but unremarkably. Mztourist ( talk) 03:15, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The rankings are not irrelevant; they are an indication of reliability, which you question. Fewer people would purchase an unreliable book. Given that there are millions of books published and listed for sale, I think these rankings show the book is well accepted. It has also received 183 customer reviews on Amzazon, most of them 5-star. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MB ( talkcontribs)
The rankings are not an indication of reliability at all! They are based on sales numbers, which aren't particularly high for any of the categories. The customer reviews are purely subjective and can be manipulated. Reliability requires editorial and peer review, which for an independently published book is questionable. Mztourist ( talk) 04:01, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The book does not fall into reliably published category, so it would be at the level that a person wrote an autobiography about someone and self-published it. I couldn't find much information about that publishing company. Graywalls ( talk) 21:16, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I would conclude from reading Independent publishing that while such a book may be unreliable, it isn't necessarily. MB 22:08, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply
It's not a reliable indication of notability. In Google Scholars, there's no indication that book has been cited in other reliably published materials, and there are no other books that really talk about him. There is a US Military recruiting office publication, which confirms he existed but there's no indication of notability that warrants a stand-alone page. Customer reviews of a book has absolutely no bearing on suitability as a source. I couldn't find anything about the obscure Lighthorse Publishing Company either. Graywalls ( talk) 04:23, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Unfortunately, the main source is a self-published book. CreateSpace, Amazon's self publishing platform, is clearly listed on the the book's copyright page. Amazon allows authors the option of creating a publishing company name and this appears to have happened here. The book is said to have a Bronze Medal from the Independent Publishers Awards. These awards require entry fees and are noted for being primarily designed to profit the sponsors of the contest. The criteria for judging is greatly based on the outward appearance of the book. High marks go for the cover and overall design. There is no guarantee the book will even be read. The Cozzalio book does have a very nice cover and could be well written, but it is self published and that it not a reliable source for WP. I cannot find much of anything else about Mr. Cozzalio, even in newspaper archives. I have no doubt he was a fine soldier and greatly admired by the men with whom he served, but I think there should be more reliable sources found in order to prove notability and justify a WP article. Roam41 ( talk) 18:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I agree with the above arguments. It's not appropriate that our main source is a self-published book. We don't have significant coverage by reliable sources here, and so deletion is the right call. It's certainly frustrating since this solider clearly was well-known in his community and deserved to be so due to his achievements. Yet, as has been found multiple times in these discussions, being well-known in the general sense isn't the same thing as technically being notable. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 09:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. notability not shown Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:49, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Swapno Chowa

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Completely unsourced, fails WP:GNG, only “Swapno Chowa” to be found is a YT-channel. Kleuske ( talk) 10:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Terminus Technologies

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Fails WP:NCORP/ WP:CORPDEPTH. Passing mentions and routine business announcements only. Promotional tone, author declares COI on userpage. Kleuske ( talk) 08:29, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I'd like to address the "routine business announcements" comment above. Some of these sources are full-length articles related to the business from reliable sources used in several other live wiki articles (Forbes & Fortune being the most notable). Furthermore, another user pointed out that the company possesses a profile on Bloomberg and Crunchbase (again both sources accepted as reliable in several other company related Wikipedia articles).

Initially, there may have been a mildly promotional tone, changes were made immediately and the current article reads factually. I also invite other editors/admins to make changes to ensure that the tone is objective in nature, but do not believe the article warrants deletion. Evisramz ( talk) 16:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy deleted by an Admin per WP:G7 ( non-admin closure) --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 16:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Vangelis Polydorou

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Subject of the article is a musician that does not satisfy WP:SINGER. Only known for being a finalist in a musical event. A BEFORE shows a gross lack of notability. Celestina007 ( talk) 08:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Redirect to The Voice UK (series 5). No notability beyond that series (of which he was actually a semi-finalist).-- Laun chba ller 15:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Camila Barraza

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Miss Universe Albania. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:06, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Miss Universe Albania. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete clearly not enough sourcing to show notability. Beauty pageant winners are one of our too large groups of articles on non-notable people that are going to push us over 1 million articles on living people unless we start monitoring articles better. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:07, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:12, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:12, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Cannot find sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. All the coverage I could find is:

  • [49] (Russian), which gives a brief description of the show.
  • [50] (Russian), which mentions the show trivially and appears to be a blog
  • [51] (Russian), which announces the show will be broadcast in Ukraine. Appears to largely be a republication of a press release.
  • [52] [53] [54] [55] (Portuguese), which all appear to trivially cover the changing of the program's time-slot.
  • [56] (Portuguese), which appears to be a blog criticizing the program
  • [57] (Portuguese), which appears to be a blog criticizing the program
  • [58] (Portuguese), which covers the aforementioned time-slot change and covers the program itself in more depth userdude 08:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete - This seems rather clear. We don't have the reliable sourcing that we need to cover a television program in depth. We've got a promotional article as it stands that's full of various claims without anything sourcing at all. As it stands, the situation is quite bad. Deletion absolutely makes sense. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 10:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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He does not look notable, is only covered in local newspapers and whoswhos's, was also deleted in frwiki. P . S. Chevalier des Palmes Académiques is given to 4.5 thousands people each year, so it is too minor an award. Wikisaurus ( talk) 01:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Player who has never played in a competitive match between two teams from fully-professional leagues (failing WP:NFOOTBALL) and, more importantly, has not received significant coverage (failing WP:GNG). I have afforded the article creator a chance to demonstrate notability before this AFD but he has failed to do so. Giant Snowman 20:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ Davidlofgren1996: where is the coverage that comes with notability? Giant Snowman 16:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
@ GiantSnowman: Where is the coverage that comes for any international footballer for a country in the bottom 100 FIFA ranked countries? Where is the coverage for most of the footballers of the early 1900s? Davidlofgren1996 ( talk) 17:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Your case is that he is notable because he has, quote, "played in the CAF Super Cup". There is plenty of coverage about footballers in DR Congo. Please find it for this person. Giant Snowman 17:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Lets be honest, he's never going to have any major coverage on him. Nor are a lot of the footballers that have Wikipedia pages. You said yourself that you had this player in your draft space, so you were waiting for him to either move to Anderlecht and make an appearance there, or make an appearance at senior international level. If he had made one senior international appearance, what difference is a game against, say, the Rwanda national football team in a meaningless friendly to one of the most prestigious competitions in African football, the CAF Super Cup? He would have no less coverage after one international friendly game than he does now. Davidlofgren1996 ( talk) 19:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
That's patently false. More appearances at a notable level = more media coverage. That's the whole bloody point of NFOOTBALL! Giant Snowman 19:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
You're telling me that, for example, an international footballer for the British Virgin Islands is going to get coverage? Let's take Carlos Septus or Desire Montgomery Butler for example, two players with over 15 caps apiece. Absolutely zero coverage. Davidlofgren1996 ( talk) 20:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - He was also called up (but sat on bench) for national team. I've added references supporting that. With him playing regularly at highest level in his country, on the edge of the national team, and with international club appearances, there's presumably GNG coverage out there, if one had access to local media. Also has had other international coverage such at this and this. And what about his U23 disqualification per this, which resulted in the disqualification of the entire DR Congo U-23 football team? That's well into GNG territory, with several other references out there too. Article needs improving. Nfitz ( talk) 19:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Looking through French language sources I think he pretty clearly meets WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T· C 17:50, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ SportingFlyer: what sources are those please? Davidlofgren1996 was unable to provide any prior to this AFD and Nfitz specifically talks about the lack of "local media". Giant Snowman 17:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Sources like [59], [60] is about the other player who transferred to Anderlecht but should be used in the article to show he didn't make the grade for some reason, [61], [62], [63], [64]. Some of those are just mentions, but I just did a Google News search and went in a few pages. Clear keep IMO SportingFlyer T· C 18:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I never said there was a lack of local media - I never checked ... there was no point digging any further. Nfitz ( talk) 04:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:04, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable and promotional. Most of the references are mere notices, and there do not seem to be any references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources DGG ( talk ) 19:12, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep this article about a school science initiative per WP:GNG. I am seeing a handful of local independent media reporting on what it has been doing in a number of schools. While the prose could use some improving, I don't see it as being promotional, with even some criticism having been included. StonyBrook ( talk) 00:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
that's the point: it's only the local media DGG ( talk ) 03:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
The notability guideline only requires the sources to be reliable and independent, which these are. StonyBrook ( talk) 08:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
New York's Jewish Education marketplace is as "local" as is Wall Street on Manhattan's island to the United States' financial marketplace. As such, "local" coverage means the center. This is similar to how stories about new Federal buildings in Virginia or Maryland (e.g. Social Security Administration) are not merely "local." Pi314m ( talk) 01:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Author update: Long Island Herald, certainly not a Jewish newspaper, ran a story about a December 2019 CIJE-run STEM competition for Jewish schools in the Northeast. Top 3 winnings by HAFTR (a Jewish girls school) in CIJE's robotics competition is the focus of the story. STEM gets mentioned via two other Jewish schools, YCQ and relative newcomer JEC/NJ.

    I just added about this competition to the article. Yes, CIJE's perhaps overly prominent place in the headline could have have been replaced by "Jewish girls show their robotics talent" but the story is about the students and their accomplishments, and how CIJE played a role. Pi314m ( talk) 02:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Unable to locate any significant biographical details in secondary sources. Passing mention in sources cited. Magnolia677 ( talk) 14:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep notable producer and artist within the cloud-era hip-hop community. HiddenHiddenHidden ( talk) 15:26, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - While partly notable due to his connection with genuine chart success, the main issue appears to be that Mullings is primarily known as a collaborator and somebody who works behind the scenes. It's incredibly common in the music industry for producers to do great work with excellent artists and never become well-known themselves. As an individual, he doesn't appear to cross the line as far as our notability standards go. I'm not too sure about this, but I'm inclined to support deletion. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 17:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Majority of the sources cited in the article are promotional links to the subject's music. A Google search of the subject didn't bring up coverage in reliable secondary sources.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 18:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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As best I can determine, this is just a name the California highway maintenance department slapped on the intersection at some point in the 1960s. They are the locus of most references to the place, and the name doesn't show up on topos until 1973; go back into the 1940s and the key road follows a different route. There is of course nothing here but a couple of houses, all of which look to be small ranches; old topos show different buildings but never more than a couple. Mangoe ( talk) 02:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Delete, or redirect to Parkfield, California. Nothing more than a name on a map, like many other California location articles. CJK09 ( talk) 03:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Additionally, a redirect does not seem appropriate here. It is not related to Parkfield beyond being on the other end of a road that happens to lead there. – dlthewave 00:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NBOOK. Could not find any coverage about this except a passing mention in an Audible books list. No reviews of note. PK650 ( talk) 20:12, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I have no idea how this passed AfC at all. Neither Battle For Forever or Idiots in the Machine have any SIGCOV, awards, or reviews. He clearly fails both the GNG and WP:AUTHOR. All three were created by SPAs. PK650 ( talk) 20:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Struck. Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 03:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Simply claiming to be a bestselling author doesn't cut it. Bestseller lists can also be gamed and don't constitute notability any more than social media followers. I do not see any policy based reason to keep the article. b uidh e 23:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Delete. Most of the sources are not about the subject; they're either his own website or just mention him. Source #1 is his own website. Sources #2-5 are about a convicted murderer who used to live with the subject; see WP:NOTINHERITED. #5 only mentions him. That leaves 6-8, which are about his spec scripts (perhaps notable, but I don't think it passes GNG). Then #9, which, again, only mentions the subjects. It adds up to a lot of nothing. -- Kbabej ( talk) 23:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 08:59, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Per request at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Deletion_request:_Hungarian_Spectrum, alleging WP:SOAPBOX.

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This article: Hungarian Spectrum must be deleted: self promotion, soap boxing, political activism. The creator of the page Stevan Harnad used and uses repeatedly the WP to spread his political views - just take a look at his editing history:

He edits his own wp article: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Stevan_Harnad&action=history

He spreads political opinions as facts: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_68#Constitution_of_Hungary

etc.

It is just another attempt. Hungarian Spectrum is a closed facebook-group, the main contributor has ZERO scientific output.

Speedy deletion tag already placed, but I guess that Harnad will remove it soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 19:57, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi. I have removed the speedy deletion tag. Your reason, "self promotion and soapboxing", is in line with WP:G11, but I really don't see the content of the article as "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten". I have no comment on the notability of the subject (which is not a valid speedy deletion reason anyway), or on your apparent claim of conflict of interest. If you think the article should be deleted, please use WP:AFD. Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 21:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply
More than the half of the whole article consists of a quote from George Soros about his vilification in Hungary, and his appraisal (philantropist etc. - he has his own wp article, no need to repeat it here!), and his views on Viktor Orbán. It is clearly soapboxing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 06:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Then nominate it for deletion at WP:AFD. Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 11:59, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I don't know if there is some confusion here, but AFAICT, the article is about this blog https://hungarianspectrum.org/ . It seems to just be a blog hosted as a normal website. It's not a closed Facebook group. Maybe there is a closed Facebook associated with the blog but if there is, that's not what the article is mostly about. In fact the article never seems to have mentioned the closed Facebook group AFAICT. The blog seems to mostly about politics and stuff, so I'm not entirely sure why anyone would expect people associated with it to have scientific output anyway. Nil Einne ( talk) 14:08, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Summary up to this point:
    1. Speedy Deletion of Hungarian Spectrum (created in April 2019) was requested by User 84.224.163.158 on April 1 2020.
    2. Editor Boing! said Zebedee removed the Speedy Deletion tag and wrote: "I have removed the speedy deletion tag. Your reason, "self promotion and soapboxing", is in line with WP:G11, but I really don't see the content of the article as "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten". I have no comment on the notability of the subject (which is not a valid speedy deletion reason anyway), or on your apparent claim of conflict of interest. If you think the article should be deleted, please use WP:AFD."
    3. User Nil Einne added: "I don't know if there is some confusion here, but AFAICT, the article is about this blog https://hungarianspectrum.org/ . It seems to just be a blog hosted as a normal website. It's not a closed Facebook group. Maybe there is a closed Facebook associated with the blog but if there is, that's not what the article is mostly about. In fact the article never seems to have mentioned the closed Facebook group AFAICT. The blog seems to mostly about politics and stuff, so I'm not entirely sure why anyone would expect people associated with it to have scientific output anyway."
    4. User 84.224.163.158 then placed a tag calling for citation evidence of Notability. I then provided the evidence and removed the tag.
    5. There was further discussion of a quotation that Editor User:MarkH21 found too long. After some exchanges User:MarkH21 trimmed the quote and this is now resolved.
    6. Editor User:DGG has also helpfully modified the heading of a section in which User 84.224.163.158 had posted some information critical of the creator of the blog, Professor Eva Balogh, for being left-liberal and critical of the Orban government in Hungary. This criticism is fine, indeed welcome! It is true and valid: All the authors in Hungarian Spectrum are critical of the Orban government in Hungary. And it is for WP users to judge whether that undeniable fact is a valid reason for deleting the entry for Hungarian Spectrum.
    7. A Deletion tag was applied today (April 5), linking to the prior exchanges among Users 84.224.163.158, Boing! said Zebedee, User:MarkH21 and myself during these 3 days.
    8. I would like to ask those who take part in this Deletion Discussion to please first read those prior exchanges, as well as their continuation from when the Discussion was transferred to the Talk section of Hungarian Spectrum so that the same points need not be repeated here (except if Users find some of them unresolved).
    9. In summary, the article on Hungarian Spectrum is a short, factual and objective description of a daily blog of 13 years standing that features critical analyses of current developments in Hungary, most by Professor Balogh, a historian specializing in Hungary from 1900 to the present -- a blog whose visibility, timeliness and influence has been growing with the current developments in Hungary.
    10. One particular very current development may or may not be relevant to this Deletion Discussion. I leave it to fellow WP Users to judge: The initiative by User 84.224.163.158 to delete the WP entry for Hungarian Spectrum began on April 1st -- two days after the Orban government "voted in favor of passing legislation that would create a state of emergency without a time limit, grant Prime Minster Viktor Orbán the ability to rule by decree, the suspension of parliament with no elections, and prison sentences for spreading fake news..." [1]. Journalists within Hungary are understandably fearful... All the articles in Hungarian Spectrum since March 30 have been devoted to this topic, and the reaction of the Hungarian democratic opposition, the EU, and the rest of the world to it [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]. Hungarian Spectrum (the blog) is chronically targeted by anonymous Orbanian trolls. Is 84.224.163.158 the vanguard of a similar initiative in WP? -- User:Harnad ( talk) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)-- User:Harnad ( talk) 22:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)-- User:Harnad ( talk) 23:31, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - obviously soap boxing and POV pushing and lack of notability. Even the creator of the page admits that he thinks anyone not agreeing with his version of the text is involved in Hungarian internal politics and/or Orbán-troll. See the opening remarks of this page: "The initiative by User 84.224.163.158 to delete the WP entry for Hungarian Spectrum began on April 1st -- two days after the Orban government "voted in favor of passing legislation that would create a state of emergency without a time limit, grant Prime Minster Viktor Orbán the ability to rule by decree, the suspension of parliament with no elections, and prison sentences for spreading fake news..." [1]. Journalists within Hungary are understandably fearful..." etc. etc.
Total paranoia. Harnad is doing a crusade, he often uses even the talk pages to spread his views, just like now: you can read about the oppressed Hungarians - soon the article itself will be expanded by him with long citations, as he is trying to do so now. And the references he mentions are circular references: friends refer to each other. Just like in the case of the Canadian-Hungarian Democratic Charter. It was founded by the author of this blog, and the article about it was created by Harnad. Here is the discussion, and so on. Repeated violations of the WP:neutrality policy and also a breach of WP's conflict of interest policy.
And Stevan, please don't create more articles about yourself, just like you created the Stevan Harnad article in the French WP. We have been through this many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.204.13.123 ( talk) 13:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ "We"? I have no idea who you are. And this discussion is about the contents of Wikipedia entry Hungarian Spectrum and the blog it describes, not me. -- User:Harnad ( talk) 15:53, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ User:MarkH21, I'm not sure I understand your question. Hungarian Spectrum is the WP entry for a blog. The nearest point of comparison would be a WP entry for a (notable) Journal: Behavioral and Brain Sciences has an impact factor of 17.194; that is not based on sources discussing Behavioral and Brain Sciences itself but on sources discussing the content of the articles that are the content of Behavioral and Brain Sciences. Am I misunderstanding something about sigcov (for [Journal] entries in WP)? -- User:Harnad ( talk) 13:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC) -- User:Harnad ( talk) 14:00, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I am referring to WP:SIGCOV, which requires that the blog has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. It is the basic notability guideline used unless one of the specific notability guidelines apply. In this case, WP:WEBCRIT may apply, which requires that the blog has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. So far, I don't see published works where in the Hungarian Spectrum is the subject; I only see articles where it is quoted or very briefly mentioned. — MarkH21 talk 14:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ User:MarkH21 I still don't understand. Hungarian Spectrum is a blog publishing one article per day since 2007. Most of the articles are authored by Eva Balogh, who is the creator and editor of the blog. It is her articles and their contents that are discussed when they are cited, not the blog itself. (There do exist some discussions directly of the blog itself: should I cite those too? But I would think that, as with any notable journal, it is discussions of the contents of its articles that make the journal notable, not discussions of the journal per se.) All the citations I referenced in response to IP's call for notability (journal articles, books, newspaper articles) were independent, of course, not self-citations or citations by colleagues or associates of Professor Balogh. -- User:Harnad ( talk) 14:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The criteria that I linked in my last comment are about coverage of the blog itself. Whether there is significant coverage in reliable independent sources is the principal metric used for notability on WP. — MarkH21 talk 14:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep This AfD has been open by a WP:SPA IP who tries clearly to delete this article for pure political reasons. The content of the article satisfies all Wikipedia policies, including WP:NPOV. The only thing that deserves a discussion here is whether the blog satisfies the notability guidelines, and specially whether it has an international coverage. The fact that the blog is archived by Library of Congress (reference 4) is a first positive indication. A Google search on "Hungarian spectum" provides almost 600 hits, and the entries of the first page of results include medias of France ( La Croix), Belgium ( RTBF), Italy, Brazil ( Zero Hora) and Romania. So, it is clear that this Hungarian blog has a significant international coverage. D.Lazard ( talk) 16:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I refuse the charge. As I've already proven, there is a clear tendency in the creator's activity towards soapboxing. In fact, if You check the edit history, you can see that I tried to upgrade the article: the authors speciality etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hungarian_Spectrum&action=history . It has nothing to do with political affiliation.I typed "Hungarian spectrum" as well - I got results only from the blog itself.And if you take a closer look at the talk page of the article, you can see that it is actually the author, Stevan Harnad who tries to politicize things, accusing the opponents of being paid trolls etc.-- 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 18:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
By the way, you can even have your Twitter archived...just fill in the form http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/personalarchiving/websites.html:How about asking any editor guys working on articles dealing with Hungary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 19:02, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++Did I say "paid"? -- User:Harnad ( talk) 19:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++And your ( WP:SPA IP) beef sounds like it's not with Hungarian Spectrum but with me ( WP:NPA). I suggest you take it to my talk page -- User:Harnad ( talk) 20:26, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ D.Lazard: From the Google hits, I haven’t found any examples of those articles being sigcov as opposed to just quotes or brief mentions of the blog. — MarkH21 talk 03:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Specifically:
  • The La Croix article only mentions the blog once: [...] estime Kim Lane Scheppele, professeur de droit à l’université de Princeton et spécialiste de la Hongrie, dans une analyse publiée sur le site Hungarian Spectrum.
  • The RTBF article mentions the blog once: Le site politique Hungarian Spectrum, très critique à l’égard de la politique de Viktor Orban, parle de chèque en blanc pour le Premier ministre...
  • The Zero Hora article mentions the blog once: [...] segundo o Hungarian Spectrum, site independente fundado pela professora de história da Europa Oriental de Yale Eva Balogh.
They're only passing mentions. — MarkH21 talk 07:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I'm slightly left of centre by British standards which means I'm way left by Hungarian standards. However, I'm not seeing any significant coverage independent of the source. What I'm looking for are BBC (or other media) articles saying "Hungarian Spectrum say this" and I'm not finding it. Seems decidedly niche. BTW. I've subscribed. Nigej ( talk) 21:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ Nigej,Would you settle for The Economist or The New York Times (Braham obituary)? That's just off the top of my head. I can search for more, but of course it will never be able to compete with notability in sport ;>) Everything scholarly is niche relative to that! -- User:Harnad ( talk) 23:45, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Those are more examples of articles that quote or briefly mention the blog, which is different from providing significant coverage about the blog. — MarkH21 talk 03:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I think the difference is that I can find a golf tournament in 1940 which was reported in hundreds of different newspapers from one side of America to the other. No one's heard of it now but it was notable at the time. Not scholarly I agree but Wikipedia is not scholarly, it's populist. Nigej ( talk) 08:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Nigej, you can find hundreds of sources like that simply by clicking on the word "news" in the searches at the top of this discussion. Phil Bridger ( talk) 06:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Phil Bridger: I genuinely don't see any sources that say more than half a sentence about the blog. Could you link some? — MarkH21 talk 07:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I said that there are hundreds of sources there of the type that Nigej described, not of the type that you described. Phil Bridger ( talk) 07:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Oh sorry, I misunderstood what Nigej was looking for. — MarkH21 talk 07:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. There is a clear consensus that this blog is mentioned by many notable medias all around the world, but there is no (not yet?) consensus whether this is a significant coverage, or, in other words, whether these mentions are trivial mentions. In fact, WP:SIGCOV says "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention". The open question is thus "what is a trivial mention?". Clearly a sentence such as "there is a blog called Hungarian Spectrum" is a trivial mention. But the mentions of the blog in medias are not of this type, they of the type "our source for some aspect of the political situation in Hungaria is Hungarian spectrum". This is far to be trivial, as this implies that the blog is an influential media. I agree that this implication is somehow WP:OR, but every reader may understand that by himself, and may therefore want to know more about the blog. This makes a WP article very useful. Therefore, if the blog does not satisfy formally the notability guidelines, this means that WP:IAR applies here (If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.). D.Lazard ( talk) 11:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    I've never interpreted Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention to mean that any non-trivial mention is significant coverage though. — MarkH21 talk 11:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++Here are some more citations and mentions (some may also be in the reflist I earlier added to the article itself in response to WP:SPA IP's Notability tag): [1] [2] [3] -- User:Harnad ( talk) 16:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Harnad: We already know that there are hundreds of articles that briefly mention / quote the blog. Could you find any (and please nothing from Blogspot, Twitter, opinion articles, etc.) that actually talk about the blog in detail? I.e. one that has more than a sentence written about Hungarian Spectrum. — MarkH21 talk 16:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
To editor Harnad: This discussion is about Hungarian Spectrum, not about Hungary. It appears that some of the references that you have added do not contain the word "spectrum". Please, remove them. Otherwise, as we have plenty of mentions of this blog in notable media, the discussion focuses on whether these sources suffice for establishing notability. It would help to reach a consensus, if you can find a source that gives more details on Hungarian spectrum, and is independent from it. D.Lazard ( talk) 17:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The ref 5 below (in www.libertatea.ro) in a Romanian medium is an example of the requested sources. A source in English would be better. D.Lazard ( talk) 17:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++As suggested by D.Lazard I've left only the more extensive citations, but if the decision about deletion is based on how many articles discuss the blog itself, rather than the content of its articles I can't help. When (as they say) the history is written, I think Professor Balogh's exposés of the goings-on in Hungary during these crucial years will be recognized as not only having documented the critical developments for the non-Hungarian-speaking world well in advance of the major international news media, alerting and leading them to it (as the citations show), but also as often having anticipated developments well in advance of when they went on to happen. It may even turn out that the remarkable remote web with which she has already been monitoring and reporting on Hungary daily for over 4700 consecutive days will have played not just a chronicler's role but a causal one in how it all turns out. But to see that, you have to read what others have picked up from what she has said in her blog -- not what they've said about her blog. -- User:Harnad ( talk) 01:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Unfortunately, WP cannot predict the future nor directly assess a website's importance (we have to rely on secondary sources' assessments). Also, aren't the WaPo and NYT articles also only half-sentence mentions? — MarkH21 talk 01:47, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. It is clearly a propagandistic blog financed to regularly describe Orbán as a fascist, authoritarian dictator, but it is regularly mentioned in mainstream media. Borsoka ( talk) 00:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment — I agree with the concerns above about whether there is actually any significant coverage of the blog, though I'm not confident one way or another. I looked through most of the long list of references given to justify notability and they seem to be only footnote citations or off-hand mentions. Perhaps a better option would be to have an article on Balogh herself, who does seem to be safely notable, and integrate Hungarian Spectrum as a section? — Nizolan ( talk · c.) 12:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ User:Nizolan, I'll be happy to try to do a bio entry for Éva Bologh either way -- separate or merged -- but I don't know enough about the biographic details and reliable sources. I invite those who know more to send me the data, either on my Talk page or by email (easily found at UQAM or Southampton, but I don't check my McGill email regularly). -- User:Harnad ( talk) 21:43, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Move to Éva Balogh, otherwise delete. Given that none of the coverage (except perhaps the Libertatea interview article) offer significant coverage of the blog itself, this article should be deleted. However, there is an argument for the notability of the author of the blog herself via WP:JOURNALIST#1 as she is cited in dozens of news articles in dozens of languages through the blog. This article can easily be converted into one on its author, with much of the content shifted to a section for the blog itself. — MarkH21 talk 05:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 06:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable company, the citation that is about it is from blogs, and also from contributors such as on Forbes which can be paid for. James Richards 01:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • I don't agree with your point about the blogs, most of the sources are from reputable news outlets, including business insider. Certainly has enough press coverage to meet notability guidelines TheWarOfArt ( talk) 02:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
What is there to disagree with? Blogs are generally not view as Reliable Sources - see here.
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  • Delete Not a single reference meets the criteria for establishing notability and I am unable to locate any further references that are any better. Most references fail to include any "Independent Content" as per WP:ORGIND or are mentions-in-passing and therefore have no in-depth information on the company and fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Topic fails GNG/NCORP. HighKing ++ 12:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep many of the sources are simply not blogs (Stuff, Business Insider, Forbes) and for reasons mentioned above TheWarOfArt ( talk) 20:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • TheWarOfArt, we know the company exists and has a marketing presence but the mere existence of reference does not denote notability. Also, there's a difference between references to support the existence of a company and facts about the company which essentially is WP:RS. There are difference standards for establishing notability and for companies/organizations, the guidelines are WP:NCORP. I'll provide a breakdown of specifically why the references fail Wikipedia's policies/guidelines for establishing notability below. HighKing ++ 12:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Analysis of sources shows that none meet the criteria for establishing notability. In fact, not even close. HighKing ++ 12:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • This from Business Insider] is an article on whether it is safe to travel to Mexico and as part of the article they ask various experts their opinion. The CEO and Operations Manger of the company provides quotations for the article. There is no "Independent Content" as per WP:ORGIND and no in-depth information on the company, failing WP:CORPDEPTH.
    • Thie from TravelDailyNews is entirely based on an interview with the Director of Operations and contains "Riskline's 10 top travel risks for 2020" which is published by the company themselves. The exact same details/article is also published in other publications such as Tourism Sri Lanka, the Northstar Meetings Group and G4 Risk Solutions and has been mentioned in a lot of other publications too such as the Business Travel Magazine. There is no Independent Content nor any in-depth information on the company. Fails WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH.
    • This from Sunrise is a company announcement from Sunrise who won a contract to build their new branding. There's also a case study of the project. Sunrise are therefore *not* unaffiliated with the company, reference fails WP:ORGIND
    • This from Travolution is based on a company announcement and release of new city-level safety maps. The article relies entirely on information provided by the company and has no Independent Content. Similar articles based on the same announcement such as CIR Magazine and Insurance Edge. Since none contain Independent Content, they all fail WP:ORGIND.
    • This from ITIJ is based on a series of report released by the company entitled "The Female Traveller Safety Reports" and relies entirely on information and quotations provided by the company and their officers. It has no in-depth information on the company, fails WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • This from Stuff is an article on Thai anti-government protesters activities in Bangkok. It includes one single quotation from a political risk analyst working for the company. It is a mere mention-in-passing and is not significant coverage, reference fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • This "reference" from MySafeTravel is for a mobile app that provides safety information from their partner company, the subject of this AfD. There is no information whatsoever on the company nor is it significant coverage. Reference fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • The Forbes reference is from the part of the site that is not considered to be under editorial control nor reliable, fails WP:RS. Even leaving that aside, there is no in-depth information provided on the company and the relevant parts rely entirely on quotations provided by an officer of the company, failing WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • This from Northstar Meetings Group is covered above, fails WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH
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  • Delete as non-notable, all the apparent refs contributing nothing towards notability as explained above, despite the article author's protestations. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 17:39, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • I appreciate everyone's points. However, this reads to me as deletionism when perhaps {More citations needed} or {Refimprove|date=April 2020} would be a better choice and allow for future community improvement. In this vein, I have also added additional sourcing. TheWarOfArt ( talk) 19:59, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I would agree with the argument that the sources provided/listed above (Stuff, Business Insider, Forbes) are reputable sources and being listed in those places is notable due to their outreach and brand recognition. -- XtasyofGold ( talk) 20:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Comment The problem with the Forbes article is that it is not written by a staff member of Forbes but instead by a contributor of Forbes. -- James Richards ( talk) 04:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • I would add that the argument are reputable sources and being listed in those places is notable due to their outreach and brand recognition is the very argument that WP:NCORP makes sure is not valid. Companies have PR teams and marketing teams - they know that "those places" provide their company with "outreach and brand recognition" and that is why they pay to have "articles" written about them. That is why we look at the *content* of the article and look for "Independent Content" (which is defined in WP:ORGIND). If you believe any of the sources contain "Independent Content", please explain here. HighKing ++ 11:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete - The sources often fail SigCov, sometimes fail reliable and very often fail to be independent. Overall, I don't think it could pass GNG, and certainly no the higher NCORP standards. Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. This close is going to be a little strange. On the one hand, there's clear consensus to delete, so I don't see any way I can close this otherwise.

On the other hand, the last relisting comment notes that he apparently won an election during the time the AfD was running, which presumably would be a significant factor in determining notability. Yet, nobody commented after that. So, let me just note that, as always, if events evolve to make somebody notable who wasn't earlier, there's no bar to recreating an article after it's deleted. I would urge anybody who wants to recreate this, however, to make sure to include WP:RS which establish that he now passes WP:NPOL. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Alla Ayodhya Rami Reddy

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Non-notable politician and businessman, little reputable references. James Richards 02:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • This must be the first case that I've seen of a subject not meeting a notability guideline as a direct result of the COVID-19 pandemic. If the election had not been postponed Reddy would have been elected unopposed on 26 March to the Rajya Sabha, the upper house of India's parliament. His election was not opposed because Rajya Sabha members are elected by MLAs who usually vote on party lines. He may still pass WP:GNG even though technically he doesn't pass WP:NPOL. Phil Bridger ( talk) 10:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if circumstances change. The problem with the election being postponed due to the COVID-19 situation is that, unopposed or not, it currently remains possible that he might never actually assume the office at all — he could die in the pandemic, the government could retract his nomination for any number of reasons before the rescheduled election actually takes place, and on and so forth. So the time for an article about him is once he's actually been officially elected to the office for real, and it's not enough to just assume that he will hold the office eventually. Bearcat ( talk) 18:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Please note the Rajya sabha elections not yet over and there are 5 candidates for 4 seats in Andhra Pradesh and hence the MLA have to vote after a 5th candidate entered the fray as per this and Rajya Sabha elections have been postponed indefinitely as of now due to COVID-19 as per this.Hence he fails WP:NPOL as of now. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 18:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. It is not clear whether census-designated places qualify as "populated, legally recognized places" under WP:GEOLAND. I see that there is an ongoing discussion on the talk page of the guideline; should it resolve as no, feel free to renominate for deletion. King of 15:55, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This is a subdivision/census tract census-designated place within Muhlenberg Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania. Newspapers.com has numerous ads and promotional articles from the 1920s, but nothing that suggests this was a distinct community. – dlthewave 14:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ Editorofthewiki: Please show me where in the WP:GEOLAND guidelines a census-designated place is always considered notable. My reading per geoland: census tracts are usually not considered notable unless SIGCOV exists. From our own Wikipedia article: Census-designated place The boundaries of a CDP have no legal status and may not always correspond with the local understanding of the area or community with the same name. Lightburst ( talk) 16:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
CDPs are bigger than tracts; in areas where town incorporation is uncommon (e.g. Maryland) towns, even some cities (such as Silver Spring), are CDPs because they don't have legal boundaries. There are problems with the lines the census draws, but it seems reasonable to me that the assignment of a definite population qualifies as sufficient official recognition of a settlement of some sort; as a rule the census is establishing a CDP because there is some sense that people think of it as a distinct place. Mangoe ( talk) 17:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment: You have stated that this is kind of a general feeling you have - as you have stated: it seems reasonable to me. However, I am not finding this - nor has anyone quoted actual WP:SNG) to support this feeling. I would suggest an RfC. Until then I cannot see that this CDP passes GNG or Geoland. Lightburst ( talk) 18:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
FWIW I have started a discussion on the topic at Wikipedia talk:Notability (geographic features). I am of the opinion that "legally recognized places" DOES include CDPs as the Census Bureau tracks and provides data for them. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 21:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
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The 5th and 6th sources are about Muhlenberg Township, although 6 does have a reference to "Muhlenberg Village" and I don't know if that refers to the township in an earlier era or the Muhlenberg Park area. 1 - 4 are are passing mentions to people from "Muhlenberg Park" and other such trivia, clearly not in-depth sigcov about it. Source 3 is the best, it defines the boundaries but something like that could probably be found for every NN neighborhood. Still does not meet GNG. Anything important from any of these kinds of sources can be added to the township article per GEOLAND: "information on the informal place should be included in the more general article on the legally recognized populated place or administrative subdivision that contains it." MB 16:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep This CDP is clearly defined as an inhabited/populated place, plus per above statements. Wikipedia as an encyclopedia should be comprehensive & in this case take its lead from RS that has established the CDP. Djflem ( talk) 17:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. King of 15:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:GNG. Plenty of articles by this person, but hardly one about him. Let alone WP:RS. Article is under sourced and (partly) autobiographical. Kleuske ( talk) 09:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Just out of curiosity, which part of WP:AUTHOR do you feel this article has demonstrated? Bonewah ( talk) 16:04, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The third point. His works (books) are the subject of "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." If only one book had been reviewed multiple times, I would have suggested redirecting to that work. In this case, several of his books are reviewed. TJMSmith ( talk) 16:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Thanks. I read that as only in conjunction with the first part "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work" Of course, what counts as significant or well-known will be based in part on what articles and reviews say so there is that. Bonewah ( talk) 20:22, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. The sources appear to be only passing mentions, not significant coverage. King of 15:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This person fails WP:NBIO. Interstellarity ( talk) 19:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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It would be helpful if you would specify what organizations sponsored the events she won medals in. There are lots of karate and kickboxing organizations and they're not all equally important. For example, WP:NKICK specifies the kickboxing organizatons that are notable and the World Karate Federation is by far the most important karate organization. Papaursa ( talk) 03:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply
She doesn't appear to meet WP:NSPORT or WP:MANOTE and she is not ranked by the WKF. I don't read Persian, so do the sources provided show that she meets WP:GNG? Papaursa ( talk) 15:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete I was not able to access all of the references in the article and I had to rely on Google translations of Persian, but I didn't see the significant independent coverage that would be needed to meet WP:GNG. For example, articles mentioning the large number of medals won by Iranians at a competition in India didn't even mention most of the medal winners by name, much less provide significant coverage of each of them. Papaursa ( talk) 03:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply

* Keep - the sources are from national Iranian TV and clearly mentions her as a medalist. other source belong to IRNA which is the official news agency of Iran, both meets WP:GNG and WP:RS. Spada II ♪♫ ( talk) 18:59, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply

I crossed out this vote since you had voted previously. Was the Iranian TV coverage truly in depth or just a routine reporting of sports results? It's important since she hasn't competed in anything that would seem to met any of the SNGs. Again, I defer to those speaking Persian. Papaursa ( talk) 22:58, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - Its a report but there are several reports not just one. The article is not written well bu I think it should stay. Spada II ♪♫ ( talk) 06:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • CommentIranian television is not active in broadcasting news related to women's sports, unless they have won medals at the Olympics. Paint them and introduce them .

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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no major festival wins for this short film, no non-trivial critical comment. DGG ( talk ) 01:27, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 14:58, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I respectfully suggest this artist seems non-notable. The most frequently cited source is an unverifiable master's thesis, and other sources are mainly indirectly related (primarily re: Native American art in general and not the subject). A Google search reveals most mentions are related to past small gallery shows and others don't seem related to his art at all. The article appears to be almost entirely original research. B.Rossow · talk 01:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Subject of article is an actress who doesn’t satisfy WP:NACTOR, A musician who doesn’t satisfy WP:MUSICBIO & in general lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources hence falls short of WP:GNG. A BEFORE doesn’t reveal anything concrete to prove notability. Celestina007 ( talk) 01:13, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Withdrawn by the nominator. (non-admin closure) Mhhossein talk 08:15, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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She is known for only one thing; as the narrator of the Calm app. As such, a mention of her on that page is sufficient per WP:NOPAGE. Spinning Spark 00:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep She's not just the voice, she also writes the meditations and is in charge of content development for them. There are multiple long profiles of her, discussing her early life, how she became involved with mindfulness, etc. Yes, everything she's notable for is connected with the app, but that doesn't make her not notable. --valereee ( talk) 16:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I've pulled up a couple more sources, including another profile in The Times of London and a review of one of her books, not associated with the app. --valereee ( talk) 17:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. King of 15:46, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I get that finding sources on these older subjects is difficult, but I'm not seeing anything that that's even properly claimed in the article as to why this subject is notable, much less is it proven. Showboat is likely their most notable performance and it looks as if they were a member of the "ensemble" and it was before the musical hit Broadway. There's the claim that the subject recorded a song that was "a hit", but no context provided for what is meant by a hit. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NARTIST Sulfurboy ( talk) 00:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Keep, WP:BEFORE would apply here. [ [71]] like this tell me this individual is notable. She is also mentioned here [ [72]]. There are the provided references in the article too but if her material is still being cited, produced and sold 100 years later fair to day she is notable. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Dude one of those sources is a wordpress blog site that only mentions the subject in passing and the other is a directory of literally every person that was ever in that orchestra. How do either of those establish notability? Not seeing anywhere that she is cited or produced "100 years later" not sure where that is coming from. Nor about her music being sold 100 years later. Sulfurboy ( talk) 01:29, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Here's another source [ [73]], cited as an artist in this dissertation [ [74]], She's cited here in [ [75]] Century of Musicals. I can keep digging but I am sure she qualifies as a stand alone article. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Cited here [ [76]] as "The SSO best known members" Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Cited here in a book written in Italian [ [77]] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The first source there is basically a track listing, the second literally mentions the subject once in reference to a group of people that are on a recording and the third one is a cast list from a non-notable show. Again how do any of these, or the first two you mentioned demonstrate notability? You may want to refer to WP:SIGCOV and WP:ROUTINE and WP:DIRECTORY. Also, how about that other claim you made of her being cited, produced and sold 100 years later? I love the enthusiasm and welcome a differing opinion, but if you are going to make claims in an AfD, please support them with facts and make sure you are citing proper policy. Cheers Sulfurboy ( talk) 01:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
LOl, you admit that it's hard to find indepth sources for older performer, especially black ones but I can show you that she is mentioned in multiple venues over a long period of time as per WP:SUSTAINED. The fact that we can show this many citing her as one of the "best known members of the SSO" and multiple other mentions suggests you are simply ignoring what is presented not only by the author but myself. I think you're a little sad I moved this to article space over your decline frankly and while I do believe you did make a decision that you thought was best you are ultimately off base. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Again, I don't think cite means what you think it does in Wikipedia terms. I could care less about it being approved after I declined it. There's been literally thousands of articles I've declined that went on to be approved. You've also failed to show anything beyond WP:ROUTINE or WP:NOTNEWS AfC reviewing is not a competition and it's sorta sad that you view it that way. However, if you want to accuse me of having an ulterior motive, that's probably best suited at WP:ANI and not in an Afd. Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
easy there, no one said anything about ANI or any need of dispute resolution, this is just a discussion no need to get butthurt. I am observing a potential cause for your inability to accept anything being presented here. You can have your opinions about what citing means here and I can have mine. I can trust my 11 years experience here in writing and reviewing articles. Feel free to disagree but IMO what you are throwing up is moving goal posts, first it was that it was hard to find more info that described a hit, now it's something else entirely. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment There's no opinion involved with what cite means. It's in fact clearly defined in the very first line of WP:CITE. Any goal post moving I did was in response to new claims after old ones were abandoned. And I don't think you can accuse me of ulterior motives and call me "butthurt" and then also call this a discussion. Since civility seems to be heading for the door, probably best I WP:WALKAWAY too. Cheers Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Hhere's another one [ One of the better revues was The Sheik of Harlem, starring Hattie King Reavis and Irvin Miller, which allowed mid- 1923 audiences to see "the frothy side of Harlem life" with all its foibles and vices prominently displayed, as well as a chorus of ...] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
And mentioned here in 1969 in the [ The high spots of the show, in my opinion, were the singing of Miss Hattie King Reavis and, a step lower, the drollery of Mr. Miller himself. The day I saw the show Miss Reavis drew down more applause than any other member of the cast...] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Here's another review [ |May 1921 a group called " L ' Orchestre Symphonique Americain " appeared at the Theatre des ChampsElysees in Paris . This group was presented by H . W . Wellmon and certainly included both Hattie King Reavis and Buddy Gilmore ] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
She is credited [ as part of the best plays in the Burns Mantle Yearbook] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
[ Credited in a Century of musicals, and singled out for a song she sang] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
She managed Urylee Leonardos, as per [ page 13 in the Indianapolis Recorder] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 03:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The Richmond Planet, in 1925, described her [ Miss Hattie King Reavis is a peculiar character. She has a charming re- tiring manner, a voice that possesses charming melody and a stage dignity and modesty ...] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 03:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Let's start with what is easy. Managing one artist does not make one notable. Simply being mentioned as being part of an orchestra does not make one notable. Hell in a Bucket (a user name that does not inspire confidence) starts out with two insignificant cites that made me think they are not even serious. Then, 3 and 4 were also not significant. 5 at least shows that she had a principal role in The Sheik of Harlem, a musical production at the Lafayette Theatre (Harlem), but the show is not even important enough to be named in the theatre's article; but the subsequent cite helps give context. 6 is insignificant. 7 could be promising, but let's have a translation! What is the cite from The Messenger about? Is it also about The Sheik of Harlem, or something else? Another cite merely stating that she was a member of the orchestra is not significant, as it has never explained why her participation in that orchestra was important. What show is Burns-Mantle talking about, and was her role in the show important? The next cite to A Century of Musicals is a duplicate (or at least a copy) of a previous one. What is Richmond Planet reviewing, just a cabaret performance? All of this, taken together, shows that she was a performer, and even hints that she was a good performer, but it does not show that she was a notable performer. If you want to save the article, you're going to need to find more significant coverage of her career. It is a losing argument to say that it is hard to find information about performers who died long ago. Here is an article on a black singer from much earlier. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 05:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
User:Ssilvers, you'd be correct 99 percent of the time with the idea about hard finding information on earlier individuals not being a winning argument. This particular case though it is a mitigating factor, this was not just a black person, but a black woman. Sometimes we have to account for the fact that racism and sexism would have played a role in how widespread mainstream coverage would have been. IMO when we consider those factors her notability becomes more clear, it's not superstar notability but it is there IMO. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 12:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: More careful searching would reveal much more about her, e.g. [78], but what we already have is evidence of her notability.-- Ipigott ( talk) 09:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. She was the executive director of American Negro Theater, and spent much of her career in Europe, for which sources are hard to find, at least for me. Given those facts, along with sources already in the article or mentioned above, she meets gng. Jacona ( talk) 12:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Given the time frame, unless one has access through Proscribe to the Associated Negro Press or a university archive which has archival materials related to black history, reference will be difficult to find in mainstream media. Many many snippits are indicators of notability; however, the fact that sources confirm that she regularly appeared in the black press is evident here and certainly here in which she appears 37 times in a 77 page document. There is a biography of her here pages 49-50. A song she sung was selected recently for inclusion in a CD on the artists of the Black Swans. She was elected to the board of the American Guild of Variety Artists, New York Chapter; apparently also wrote songs; performed into the late 1940s; and died in 1970. The few issues of The Age, a black paper, available on newspaper.com, confirm that she was often covered. [79], [80], [81], [82] over an extensive period of time. Clear indications here of notability and sufficient sources to meet GNG. SusunW ( talk) 15:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per all of the sources listed above. Sustained coverage and coverage by multiple reliable, independent sources (even if not substantial) are an indicator of notability, per WP:SUSTAINED and WP:BASIC, respectively. It seems like all signs point to her being notable. Not having easily-available online, significant coverage doesn't seem like a strong enough argument for deletion (especially in this particular case, where the subject is a black woman from the 1920s and there have been many sources found). - Whisperjanes ( talk) 17:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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A non notable actor with no reliable sources apparent to satisfy WP:NACTOR. Pahiy ( talk) 00:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Redirects at editorial discretion. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The article does not cover any topic clearly at this moment. A few quotations are there. Merge with Hinduism or delete. Titodutta ( talk) 23:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Strong delete It looks like a hoax, swims and quacks like a hoax to me. The external link links to a parked domain (a Wayback snapshot from 2007 shows it is a forum and nothing to do with a magazine), the native name returns nothing relevant from search results, the names of the editor and publisher also return only Wikipedia mirrors, and the ISSN link returns a 404. The article was created in 2007, and it seems that the only people who have added substiantial content to it are SPAs. Even if this supposed publication somehow exists, there is no indicator of notability. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:47, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete fails WP:GNG. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 01:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Flimsy evidence here of much that meets WP:GNG criteria, the article mostly hangs upon a linkedIn page, profiles in publications he writes for, and other primary sources. Being co-named as an 'Innovator of the Year' by a regional Chamber of Commerce doesn't count for anything. Time for this promotional article to go. Sionk ( talk) 22:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. HickoryOughtShirt?4 ( talk) 02:06, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Does not appear notable based on current sourcing or search for new sources. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 22:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was Already deleted. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Manufactured Museum of Digital Art

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I cannot find a single source. NCORP fail. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 22:43, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ Theredproject: this article turned out to be for a web site that was registered the same day the article was made. Almost a hoax. Se COIN for more. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 01:13, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Not seeing GNG shown here. There's some coverage but nothing convincing. No problem with recreation if suitable sourcing can be found. Fenix down ( talk) 06:31, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Lampung F.C.

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The article is unreferenced, and I can't find any corroborating information either at the enWiki page for the league that the team supposedly plays in or on idWiki. Searching online, I was only able to find results about Badak Lampung F.C., which is a different team. I'm honestly a bit uncertain about what to do at this juncture: I can't find evidence that this subject is notable, it doesn't seem appropriate to redirect to Liga 3 (Indonesia) as there's no mention of the team there, and redirecting to Badak Lampung may be inappropriate if there really is a real team named Lampung F. C. As a result, deletion may be the best possible option available to us if we can't find reliable sources covering the subject. signed, Rosguill talk 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • I'm unfortunately fine with a delete result - the Liga 3 is provincial and there are a number of similar teams. It's not impossible they're notable, but it's an extremely difficult search. SportingFlyer T· C 02:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is very confusing. The article says that this team was formerly called "PSBL Bandar Lampung", but PSBL Bandar Lampung has its own page and still exists [1] (Yeah, the website is really called "Lampost", presumably acronym of "Lampung Post"). And a template on idWiki lists them as different teams [2]. And finally, there's Badak Lampung F.C., which plays in the second league and is thus more notable and gets more editor attention. So "Lampung F.C." seems to be a team of its own, but lacks notability, and the information on the current page about is flawed. – Austronesier ( talk) 08:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Add The "official site"-link is just a newsblog which mentions that "Lampung F.C." were runner-up for the 2014 Liga Indonesia Premier Division, but—alas—they didn't make it [3]. That was their 15 minutes of fame, and the article was created more or less at that time. – Austronesier ( talk) 08:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment Lampung F.C. was runner-up of the 2013 Indonesian Premier Division (LPIS), which was a dualism and unofficial version of Indonesia Premier Division. And I found it funny that Lampung FC is redirected to Badak Lampung F.C. which is no connection between both teams. Lampung FC wasn't part of PSSI in 2014 but joined in Liga 3 Lampung in 2017. And it's different with PSBL. Wira rhea ( talk) 05:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 16:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - They were the top team in the second tier in 2013, and went on the final in the play-offs. This would have made them arguably one of the best non-fully professional teams in the country. Their players might not be quite notable - but how is the team not notable? This was extensively reported in the media at the time example. At the risk of "other things" the other 20 teams that played in tier 2 that season all have articles. A separate question is if this is the same team as PSBL Bandar Lampung - and if so one the articles should redirect to the other. Nfitz ( talk) 21:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment PSBL Bandar Lampung and Lampung F.C. are not the same team, see here [4]. – Austronesier ( talk) 10:17, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sourcing issues have not been adequately addressed. If the newspapers turn up more, then this could benefit from another discussion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non notable artist, fails WP:ARTIST. Didn't received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Most of sources doesn't pass WP:RS, they all are about event news, regular news etc. Other than some passing mention, i didn't found anything. আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 18:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Thanks but how https://issuu.com is reliable site WP:RS or how a passing mention on theatre site like http://www.klpteatro.it & http://www.criticiditeatro.it/ proves she is notable? anyway Premio della critica doesn't says she won any award there. -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 17:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Please indicate which source are good. Could you please tell me how a passing mention on [5] or [6] or [7] are significant coverage & pass WP:RS? -- আফতাবুজ্জামান ( talk) 15:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:47, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Does not meet WP:NCORP, lack of independent, in-depth coverage in RS. Sources are all all primary or routine press-releases. MB 17:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. The majority of articles are, as stated, press releases, doctor reviews or generic statements of location expansion or employee acquisitions. News articles are more about the doctors affiliated with the organization vs. the institute itself, along the lines of "Dr. Whozit, a practitioner at the Illinois Bone and Joint Institute, did this thing...". Most of the article's references point back to their own website. The institute hasn't been around long enough to have deep research, historic or cultural significance. LovelyLillith ( talk) 18:03, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Wikipedia is not the Yellow Pages nor a platform for promotion. None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability and I am unable to locate any that do. Topic fails WP:GNG/ wp:NCORP. HighKing ++ 20:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Not notable. Unsourced since 2009. Vmavanti ( talk) 23:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Sources added by AllyD & Lunar Clock are good enough for the article to be kept. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 14:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: The current sourcing certainly isn't enough for the article to be kept. The Morton one contains less than half a sentence. The So What book contains a few sentences on legal problems. I can't access the It's about that Time book, but all it sources in the article is the sentence "On the record, it is wrongly attributed to Miles Davis". The relevant criteria here are WP:NSONG – in particular, "a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album". Unless more information can be sourced, a redirect to / merge with Live-Evil (Miles Davis album) is therefore appropriate. EddieHugh ( talk) 17:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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This page should not be considered for deletion as it is based on true references which are reliable and neutral.Also it is likely to follow wikipedia guidelines and rules.So it should be removed from Articles for deletion.Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadulhassan2 ( talkcontribs) 17:46, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Shah Sulaimān Nūri

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A person in the religious lineage of a small Pakistani sect. No reliable sources quoted. One of a string of recently created articles by the same editor. Delete or draftify. kashmīrī  TALK 12:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment This and similar articles are not encyclopaedically written but I think their notability is open to debate. We regard all bishops of major Christian denominations as notable, but I don’t think we have clear guidelines for Islam. There’s a case that the head of a tariqa in a country is automatically notable. I’m not !voting on this one but would be interested in working with some editors in drafting some notability guidelines for Muslim bios. Please leave a note on my talk page if you’re interested. Mccapra ( talk) 06:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Even NBISHOP (which is an essay, not a policy) requires "significant coverage in multiple verifiable independent, reliable sources". The article has been AfD's because of lack of such sources. Moreover, a high-ranking official of the Catholic Church usually is, I am sorry to say, of a different calibre than a village "holy man", hardly known beyond the nearest town, and mostly just a name in the religious lineage that each and every South Asian sect must compulsorily offer for its faithful. For Shah Sulaimān Nūri, do you see any real information other than the fact that he was "learned and pious" and his parents were "kind and noble"? — kashmīrī  TALK 10:09, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • First of all, User :Kashmiri I respect your point of view about this article.I want to say that he is not just "learned and pious" or just a "kind and noble" personality.He is a historical personality in the 16th century.You can see his historical presence in the existing article, Muhammad Qadiri in the title of "Golden Chain".so he was not just a noble and learned man,he was a man with a history in Qadiriyya silsila.While the fact that he is hardly known beyond the nearest town is totally baseless.Why would someone from 200 km or 300 km away write book on him if he is hardly known beyond the nearest town?.And in case of reliable and independent sources,you can watch the sources that these sources have no directly link with the "personality".so i just request you to reconsider your view about this article..Thank you so much. User:Saadulhassan2
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This article should not be removed because it is truely based on a historical personality which is proven by the sources.This article likely to follow guidelines,rules and regulation of wikipedia.So i request to remove this article from Article for Deletion.My best wishes

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Shah Maroof Khushabi

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A person in the religious lineage of a small Pakistani sect. No reliable sources quoted. One of a string of recently created articles by the same editor. Delete or draftify. kashmīrī  TALK 12:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment This and similar articles are not encyclopaedically written but I think their notability is open to debate. We regard all bishops of major Christian denominations as notable, but I don’t think we have clear guidelines for Islam. There’s a case that the head of a tariqa in a country is automatically notable. I’m not !voting on this one but would be interested in working with some editors in drafting some notability guidelines for Muslim bios. Please leave a note on my talk page if you’re interested. Mccapra ( talk) 06:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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AZADEA Group

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I am not convinced that this company meets WP:NCORP. While there are some sources out there, the coverage is either trivial or consists of press releases announcing their acquisition of a new brand. There may be more sources available in Arabic that I am not able to find, however. Yunshui  12:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Except for Ko Ko Chit Chit, none of the "keep" opinions proposes or discusses relevant sources. But sources are what matters in this discussion. Sandstein 16:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Not able to find anything substantial enough to establish notability. Does not meet WP:CORPDEPTH or WP:GNG. Hitro talk 09:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep I agree that the article requires improvement but has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources from Myanmar's biggest newspaper The Myanmar Times [8], [9], [10]. The existing source in the article can establish notability. The VMG is a major telecommunications service company in my country. The company once hold biggest telecommunications market in Myanmar and has launched a first ever licensed international Calling card, Ytalk (Once in Myanmar, Ytalk used to be more popular than Viber). When the sources are in Burmese language, it does not mean that that is not notable. If you can't read the Burmese language sources? please use the Google web-translation. Thanks "KoKoChitChit" ( talk) 05:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Comment "Significant coverage in multiple reliable sources" is not the full extent of the requirements to establish notability. For example, you have ignored the requirement that the article must contain "Independent Content". You provided three references:
    • Just because the sources are in another language doesn't mean that our policies and guidelines on establishing notability don't apply. Please read WP:NCORP. Thank you. HighKing ++ 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Easily meets WP:GNG. No compliance with WP:Before. Understanding that this is in part because of systemic bias (language) in Wikipedia. 7&6=thirteen ( ) 14:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Pointing out WP:BEFORE and WP:BIAS without giving any reason why it meets WP:GNG easily, is in fact a very weak and dubious rationale for keep. I seriously do not understand why you mentioned WP:BEFORE when there is already a delete !vote posted above. Now for your info, there are only 3 considerable sources available about this topic, all are included here or in the article. You could have known that if you have done WP:BEFORE before !voting. All the three sources have been analysed above by HighKing an hour before you !voted. None of the available sources is near WP:SIGCOV. WP:BIAS is an essay, not a policy, above all not a reason for a wild card entry into Wikipedia mainspace. Hitro talk 08:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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May not meet the notability guideline, and sources are mainly primary sources. Article may also be written by someone in close connection with the subject. Mopswade ( talk) 11:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Nothing in coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable publication. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 13:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. czar 04:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable news website that does not meet ( /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)) James Richards 02:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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The result was redirect to Han Terra. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:15, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

A Maestro Who Saved Girl Ginius

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I can only find the article's subject on digital stores (Amazon, iTunes, etc.), I could not find a site that mentions its background or a site with reviews. The article is already marked for being written like an advertisement. Not to mention, the article is also misspelled (a page move could fix this, but why bother, when this article clearly lacks notability). -- D1119 ( talk) 02:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ( talkcontribs) 14:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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1. This page is an orphan 2. Very few citations 3. Unremarkable company 4. Little activity 5. Conflict of interest. (edits by user Renthal1969), has been marked as promotional many times. JamesHSmith6789 ( talk) 21:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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WP:NEOLOGISM that isn't in common use. A Google search brings up a bunch of hits for a single research paper using this phrase. One research paper does not a notable neologism make. Hog Farm ( talk) 20:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Maritime republics. Protection requested at WP:RPP (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:13, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Merchant republic

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This was a redirect to Maritime republics until today when an IP wrote or rewrote this completely garbled version. User:Doug Weller restored their redirect but it was removed again. It’s an incoherent ramble which will only serve to mislead readers, so I’m bringing it here. Mccapra ( talk) 20:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Death of Carlos Gregorio Hernandez Vasquez

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Reviewed under new article curation process. Essentially a very specific news event which fails Wikipedia:Notability (events), has no in depth coverage to satisfy wp:GNG. Article was previously deleted. North8000 ( talk) 20:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Delete or merge As nominator. Per reasons in nom. North8000 ( talk) 21:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Puddleglum 2.0( How's my driving?) 17:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Will You? (Hazel O'Connor song)

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Another song title that should just be a redirect to its album, and another one that's not going to get there without a detour to AfD... the only source here that is "substantial" is a primary source, by O'Connor herself [11] (plus there is a book - also by her). The rest only ever fleetingly touches on the song [12], or is lists. Not article material. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 20:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: I will of course stand by the result of the AfD, but as the person who restored this article and added sources, I do honestly believe that a song that was a top ten hit in two countries and sold a quarter of a million copies in one of them is far from being not notable, and that it's simply the song's age that prevents further sources from being found online – anyone who was listening to music in the UK in the early 1980s will know this is a very well known song indeed. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:16, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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But that's not how we roll - for any topic. If everyone has heard about X but no one (independently, substantially) has written about it, then we do not have the basis for an article. The approach of "people have heard of it, and we'll just pull material from connected sources and scattered tidbits to fill the article" is not good encyclopedic procedure, and not accepted for any topic on WP - it's not just songs. WP:NSONG is really quite clear about that, and I wish people would check their song articles against that before putting in all the work. I don't enjoy shooting these down either :/ -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 20:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I understand that, and I know that my statement is anecdotal, but the top ten hits and certification aren't. My big problem here is that Wikipedia has an enormous systemic bias towards recent songs and albums, because it's easy to find information on them online, and we will never redress this imbalance unless someone has access to print media from the past and is prepared to spend literally years sitting down and going through it to create decent articles for records from the 1980s and 1990s. Additionally, it's so easy to gain certifications nowadays through streaming (you don't even have to release the record to have it certified), almost every song released now will be considered "notable" because of this, even if they have zero content – I came across this article the other day, for example... to me, it has far less encyclopedic content than the subject of this AfD. But because it has a diamond certification, there is no chance of it being deleted at AfD, even though it tells you next to nothing about the song. Richard3120 ( talk) 21:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
That's so. If the material isn't online, it's much harder to create a well-sourced article. But that's a consequence of our sourcing model, and the other side of the coin of "all statements can be checked by the reader". - Re Va Bene (L'Algérino song), well that's an obvious candidate for deletion, if no more substantial coverage can be found... umpteen million views notwithstanding. In fact I'll have a check now, and if nothing comes up, to AfD it goes. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 22:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I do get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to pick a fight - I've seen your contributions at AfD and page reviewing, and I'm appreciative of your work. I just think we differ in our assessment of what is likely to be notable, if the sources were readily available. I could look at Welcome Home (Peters and Lee song) and Prince Charming (Adam and the Ants song), and once I take out all the unsourced original research and poorly sourced material, all I'm left with for both songs is basically "it reached number one in the UK". The articles would be just a chart position and little else. But... they were both the third biggest-selling singles in the UK in their respective years, 1973 and 1981. Are the articles in their current state complete crap? Undoubtedly. Do I think they should be deleted because the only thing I can verify at present is their chart position? No, not really - if they were outsold by only two records that year, to me that indicates that they are probably notable, if only I had access to print sources from the time. But I don't think we are going to convince each other of our positions here. Richard3120 ( talk) 22:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: The song is a Top 10 hit in UK & Ireland. I even found a couple of sources about the song: [13] and [14]. The said sources, including most of the ones stated in the article (except for her book since it's considered a primary source), make the article good enought to pass WP:NSONG. My vote stands. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 02:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Little less attitude, little more reasonable comments, please. Are these sources supposed to be jokes? Did you just randomly google the words "will you"? Sheesh. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 03:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
We may be on opposite sides of the debate, but I'm in agreement with Elmidae here – two passing mentions of the song, one of which is simply the author saying it was playing on the radio during one event in his life, do not constitute passes of notability... I mean, "radio station plays song" is not exactly an earth-shattering event. Richard3120 ( talk) 14:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Ok. I'll disregard this one, a literature which merely mentions the song. I found a couple more sources which partially explain about the song: [15] and [16]. I have explained enough. And I won't reply any further as my vote stands. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 04:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Sigh Necrothesp - not expecting anything different from Andrew, but from an admin this gets me. Are you among those who do not understand that the criteria at WP:NALBUM (and WP:NSONG) are not pass criteria, but criteria that indicate that there may exist sufficient in-depth coverage to allow a pass? There is no such thing as "pass by WP:NALBUM #2". You still have to demonstrate that coverage exists. Where is it? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 13:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I understand Wikipedia perfectly well. I've been here 16 years. My opinion, as clearly stated, stands. This is an AfD discussion. Wikipedia does not have strict inclusion criteria. If it did we wouldn't bother with AfDs at all. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 13:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Argument from seniority plus "I do not have to demonstrate anything, I haz opinion". I'm impressed. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 13:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I'm not impressed with your attitude, frankly. But there we go. It's quite obvious nobody else yet agrees with you, so let's just leave it for the closer and stop the arrogant, patronising and insulting tone that you seem to have adopted. As you said above, Little less attitude, little more reasonable comments, please. Applies to you too. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 11:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. Nominator turns out to be a blocked sock. MelanieN ( talk) 20:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on the performing arts

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Not relevant, too many micropages about Coronavirus Kilographography ( talk) 19:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Lynno Lovert

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non notable actor, 0 reliable sources and likely vanity spam Praxidicae ( talk) 19:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I created the page and I don't think it should be deleted because Lynno Lovert is indeed an actor. Here are some articles that support that fact:

https://www.missginapromotes.com/1153-2/ https://dcodedtv.com/lynno-lovert-breaks-silence-reveals-mothers-cause-of-death/ https://www.betatinz.com/2020/02/lynno-lovert-onyama-laura-and-godisz.html

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These are some other articles that prove that he is indeed a notable actor: https://lefilmcamerounais.com/2018/09/25/people-quatre-acteurs-et-actrices-a-decouvrir-2/

https://www.journalducameroun.com/en/cameroonian-movie-saving-mbango-premieres-in-douala-on-saturday/

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The result was keep. Copyvios can be resolved by normal processes -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:30, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Tommaso A. Dragani

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This article or section have been copied and pasted from ( https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-016-0654-y), possibly in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please find the CopyVios report. Amkgp ( talk) 18:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Only one source, which is self-published. Interwikis are unsourced; the PT one has just been SDed by me. Can't find anything beyond trivial on Google. Victão Lopes Fala! 18:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Carlo Masi

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This was rejected as a draft at WP:afc, the rejection has been vociferously argued against at a number of venues by User:AlejandroLeloirRey so I accepted the article and have bought it here for wider participation into whether it passes WP:GNG. I am neutral. Theroadislong ( talk) 18:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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As a support for his notability (before 2017 so before he become known as a porn actor who become a professor) see that he was the first and only gay porn stars ever accepted in the circuit of the national Italian tv. He was the guest star of the most important Italian tv shows. For example this video is from his FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/RuggeroFreddi/videos/253527992083794/ . It is Chiambretti Night one of the most followed Italian tv show and he was the Guest Star (he was the special guest there a few times) https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/porn-actor-carlo-masi-attends-chiambretti-night-italian-tv-news-photo/98752998, and this was 2010 so way before he became a professor. Moreover he was on National Italian newspaper when he acted in a theater piece of Beckett: la Repubblica- article, Corriere della Sera- article, La Stampa- article. these are article entirely about him not a mere mention and the articles say that he was chosen because the director was looking for a porn star as a symbol of desire.-- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 21:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: I see good sourcing here. I think the news coverage on the teacher/porn actor controversy gave Masi an opportunity to participate in Italy's national debate about sexuality. The Carlo Masi article on Italian Wikipedia is even longer and more comprehensively sourced. I know that the fact that a page exists on another language Wikipedia doesn't mean it's notable on English WP, but it does support the creator's claim that the subject has been well covered in Italian media. — Toughpigs ( talk) 21:03, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete If we judged this subject as an entertainer WP:ENT they would fail. If we judged them as a academic WP:PROF they would fail. The fact that they were both a non-notable entertainer and a non-notable academic does not somehow make them notable, no matter the contrast of the two occupations. There's been plenty of other newscycle stories about pornographic actors going on to work in a more humble or unexpected occupation. The uniqueness makes for a fun news story and that's why they got coverage, but Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, nor is it a celebrity gossip site. Sulfurboy ( talk) 03:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Fails both WP:Prof and WP:GNG. Xxanthippe ( talk) 08:11, 15 April 2020 (UTC). reply
  • Delete. The sourcing...is not good. Out of the present 39 refs, around 15 are to Siti's book. While Siti is a great writer, this is not a straight biography; it would be described as a novelisation of someones life. An online review [18] google translates as "After all, “ what is a true story? Does the truth-novel exist? Truth has to do with science and jurisprudence, not with literature or with life ”. Which means that the question is irrelevant: that the two stories are more or less truthful, more or less exact in recalling the unfolding of the facts, the narration is authentic, thanks to that narrative voice that allows you to trace the origin of the speech in reality outside the text, without being bound to it. It is not reality that interests the writer..." It is literature rather than biography, seems to be listed as a novel at Amazon and so not WP:RS, especially for a BLP. IMDB appears twice, and the subjects listing at the Adult Films Database (which seems to be as reliable a source as IMDB) is used as well. So half the references are to non reliable sources. Curdle ( talk) 09:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Siti explains in the last chapter of the book that all the facts described in the book have all actually happened. For the other "unreliable sources" it is important to see the context in which they are used, for example if they are used to prove specific fact like he was on a cover than anything that actually shows that cover will do.-- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 10:18, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
      • Historical novels often have a similar note. The author himself describes the book as a novel! again, from that review "since, as the author points out in the concluding note, “it is easy to say 'true story' : if the story is told in a novel , it cannot be completely true " It doesn't mean they are WP:RS. And sources "to prove he was on the cover" need to be more than a link to the cover itself (primary source), secondary sources are what is needed to provide notability. Curdle ( talk) 11:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, meets GNG even if sourcing is in Italian. Sources for porn performers is notoriously hard to find but hopefully more will be found, including video interviews. Gleeanon409 ( talk) 10:03, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - # User:AlejandroLeloirRey, created this page in mainspace, which was moved to draft space by first reviewer with the reason that it's improperly sourced. # Then Second reviewer rejected the draft submission it again for the same reason. # Third time I rejected it saying subject is not notable (Obviously, even here many agree with me, that sources are not reliable+not much sign of notability as per policies and much more). by the time the creator has gone to several pages including talk pages of all the reviewers, teahouse, afc help page and asked further questions about it. Not just that as this was needed but they also raised questions on other such pornbios on the same lines on which their draft was rejected. This utter desperateness shows strong signs of COI/self promotion and I won't vote to keep it. They have made almost 94 edits on the draft and all of their other edits around 300 are on other pages to pursue others to accept this draft which makes me more negative. Additionally personal attacks on my talkpage and some other pages are not acceptable at all. QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 07:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • is this a personal attack WP:PA ? are we discussing me or the bio? If I did something wrong you can suspend me or block me but this has nothing to do with carlo's bio. This is not a voting process, only arguments count so what is the point of this comment?. If you don't feel that carlo's bio should stay I am fine with it, but don't personally attack me, please.-- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 08:50, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak delete – I have been on the fence about this one. There are a lot of sources that look very reliable on the face of it, but even so I don't think notability is met. First, the person is clearly not notable as a performer ( WP:NACTOR), second, he is clearly not notable as an academic ( WP:NPROF). So any notability will have to stem from WP:ANYBIO coverage in secondary sources, and there, I think WP:BLP1E applies – there were a flurry of newspaper reports surrounding one event as discussed in the section "Media attention", but nothing more sustained. As for the book, that clearly can't be used to verify any information given the fact that it is a fictionalised account. Even so, the fact that the person is the subject of (part of) a book is probably the strongest claim to notability – but I do not believe that that on its own makes him meet WP:GNG. -- bonadea contributions talk 17:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep (but trim) per WP:BASIC based on sustained independent coverage. During Masi's porn career, he received coverage: XBIZ 2008 and AVN 2009. In 2011, he was included in the book, Gay Porn Heroes: 100 Most Famous Porn Stars by J. C. Adams. When Masi transitioned into theater, he received coverage: la Repubblica 2010. Masi received the most coverage with his transition to academia: Vanity Fair 2017 and Pink News 2018. His 2018 civil union/marriage was covered by the press: Gay Star News, On Top Magazine, Pink News, Queerty. In 2020, he is a subject of a book by Walter Siti [ it [19]. TJMSmith ( talk) 21:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. As stated above, there are reliable sources and sustained coverage beyond WP:BLP1E. Passes WP:GNG. -- MarioGom ( talk) 09:46, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. We don't judge why someone is notable, so long as they pass WP:GNG because of WP:SIGCOV. In this case, there is significant, ongoing coverage, in part because of the incongruity of a "porn star" becoming a math professor. WP:ODD and April Fool's Day WP:DYK are filled with such articles. As an adult actor, he was a big star in dozens of films, from a major adult film studio, and won top awards in his field (pardon the puns). As an academic, he would not normally be notable, but many academics become famous for controversy rather than publishing. His marriage/civil union was widely reported in almost every gay publication and web site. Bearian ( talk) 02:23, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Metroid (fictional species). (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I'm not seeing any notability for this fictional character. Was previously deleted, but as a redirect. I'm not a video game expert so taking this to AFD not PROD. WP:GNG fail. Hog Farm ( talk) 18:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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That does not make the character notable per Wikipedia standards. Per Wikipedia:GNG for a subject to be notable we need significant coverage from multiple reliale sources that are independent of the subject. To be blunt unless quality sources are found soon this article doesn't stand a chance of being kept.-- 69.157.252.96 ( talk) 19:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I also noticed that they converted the dappage SR 388 to an unsourced article about the fictional planrt, can someone please restore?-- 69.157.252.96 ( talk) 20:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Little coverage from reputable news sources, although it is founded by a former Prime Minister of Haiti according to Wikipedia policy this company still fails to meet the requirements since it cannot inherit notability. James Richards ( talk) 08:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Has not appeared in an NFL game, only an offseason part of a team. He may have some notability from his college performance, but couldn't find RS. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:28, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Never played an NFL game, and simply was an offseason member of several teams. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Never played an NFL game, and simply was an offseason member of a team. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable American football player. Never played an NFL game, and simply was an offseason member of teams. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Academic Challenger ( talk) 16:55, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Campaign advertisement masquerading as a Wikipedia article. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 17:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete a non-notable candidate for public office. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails WP:NPOL. Wikipedia is also not a WP:CRYSTALBALL. Try Ballotpedia. KidAd ( talk) 18:05, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I'd requested this to be draftified at REFUND so I could put it together, but it looks like someone else created a new article in the meantime. Anyway, I think this pretty clearly meets GNG:
    Post-Super-Tuesday sources: [20] [21] [22] [23].
    Earlier sources: [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31]
    Bolded sources are listed as "generally reliable" on RSP, although of course that doesn't preclude the others from being reliable sources. I didn't bold Buzzfeed News, because the article is post-2019, and therefore "some editors recommend exercising more caution." Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 19:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    Also, it’s worth noting that all of the sources I linked were published after the last AfD nomination. Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 19:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, clearly there are enough sources out there to pass GNG, and these sources also clearly provide exceptional coverage as he has been covered in National News publications, not just local media. Devonian Wombat ( talk) 22:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. People do not get Wikipedia articles just for running as candidates in elections they have not won, but the existence of some campaign coverage is not in and of itself a WP:GNG-based exemption from having to pass WP:NPOLevery candidate in every election everywhere can always show some evidence of campaign coverage, so if that were how it worked then every candidate would always be exempted from NPOL, and NPOL itself would literally never apply to anybody at all anymore. Rather, to make a non-winning candidate for office notable enough for a Wikipedia article, he needs to pass one of two tests: either (a) he already had preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten him an article independently of the candidacy, or (b) he can demonstrate a reason why his candidacy would pass the ten year test for enduring significance, such that even if he loses the election and then never accomplishes another more notable thing again as long as he lives, people will still be looking for information about him in 2030 because of the sheer lasting importance of his candidacy itself.
    Furthermore, even if he did pass either NPOL or GNG, he would still not be allowed to have an article that was written like a campaign brochure: that is, bulletpointed lists of his political opinions sourced to his self-published Twitter tweets are not support for his notability. Notability does not hinge on what the subject says, it hinges on what the subject accomplishes. But of the 34 footnotes here, 18 are tweets, three are to his own self-published website about his own campaign, four are other primary sources like other people's or organizations' self-published websites, three are to raw tables of election results, one is a YouTube video and one is a user-generated personal essay on Medium.com — which means 30 of the 34 footnotes are not reliable or notability-supporting sources at all, and the four that are left aren't enough to make his candidacy more special than everybody else's candidacies. Even Gaelan's 12 sources above still aren't enough to make his candidacy more special than everybody else's candidacies, because every other candidate can always also show 12 sources.
    As always, Wikipedia's job is not to maintain an article about everybody whose name happens to show up in the current news cycle — we consider the enduring significance of our article subjects, not just their temporary newsiness, and simply running as a candidate in an election the person has not won is not automatically a mark of enduring significance in and of itself. Bearcat ( talk) 20:35, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    Bearcat: I have several issues with this argument.
    First, as best I can tell, your argument has little basis in policy. NPOL explicitly allows for candidates to get articles if they pass GNG, and GNG has no requirement that the subject has an unusual amount of coverage or anything like that.
    However, the amount of coverage here is pretty exceptional. Unusually for a House candidate, he's received extensive coverage in the national media. The reason for this—which also forms a pretty good argument for the 10 year test, IMO—is in the headline of the Intercept article: NANCY PELOSI TO RECEIVE FIRST GENUINE LEFT-WING CHALLENGE IN 30 YEARS. This is one of the most important figures in US politics, who has been considered untouchable for 30 years, receiving a credible challenge. In 10 years, Buttar will either be notable because he won (and served as an example of the Democratic party's shift into the "AOC era") or lost, and served to demonstrate the limits of that shift. The fact that candidacy got to this point—a general election challenge—is notable.
    Finally, the state of the article now is not a notability argument. I completely agree that the current citations aren't great, but that's why I found a bunch more sources! And sure, every candidate can find 12 sources. But in the national media? I'm pretty sure that's unusual. Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 23:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Firstly, the understanding and interpretation of policies is debated and disputed all the time on here. So it isn't just a matter of reading the letter of a policy statement — you also have to familiarize yourself with established consensus around how the policies are applied in actual practice when they come up for debate in similar situations. And the established consensus is as I described: every candidate in every election can always show some evidence of campaign coverage, and thus every candidate in every election can always claim that they have passed GNG and are therefore exempted from having to satisfy NPOL at all — so we have an established consensus that the existence of some campaign coverage is not in and of itself enough, precisely because our established consensus that candidates are not all notable enough for articles on here would be inherently meaningless if every candidate could always exempt themselves from it.
    GNG is not simply a matter of counting up the footnotes and keeping anybody who technically meets or exceeds an arbitrary number of them: GNG is also a matter of testing for the context of what the person is getting covered for, and treating some contexts as less notability-making than other contexts. A person with just one or two media hits can pass GNG if those hits are verifying that the person has accomplished something we deem "inherently" notable, and a person with 15 or 20 media hits can fail GNG if those hits all exist in contexts that are not accepted as "inherently" notable. For instance, if a person wins election to an NPOL-passing office, then you get to start the article as soon as one source can be added to verify that they won the election, and it will be kept on that basis even though it still needs significant improvement before it can actually be considered a good article — but a person who has merely been a non-winning candidate for office, or a holder of a minor local office (such as a smalltown municipal councillor) that is not accepted as a notable one, can still fall below the notability bar even with sourcing that numbers well into the double digits, if they cannot show strong evidence that they're markedly more special than the tens or hundreds of thousands of other people who've done the same thing. Similarly, we also have a rule called WP:BLP1E, whereby people who receive a blip of media coverage in the context of a specific event, but cannot show any enduring notability outside that specific event, are not automatically entitled to keep articles just because they've technically passed an arbitrary number of media hits.
    As I said before, we consider the enduring notability of our article topics, not just their current newsiness: making a candidate notable enough for a Wikipedia article is not simply a matter of showing that his name exists in the current news cycle, it is a matter of demonstrating that his candidacy would pass the ten year test for enduring importance. Basically, if you can't show that he had preexisting notability for another reason that would already have gotten him an article anyway, then the test he has to pass is not just a reason why he might be of interest to some people today, but a credible and convincing reason why an article about him will still be necessary in 2030. Bearcat ( talk) 04:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
First off, congratulations on winning the “Wall of Text award for unnecessary explanation”. Secondly, BLP1E cannot be invoked here because the coverage identified was published months apart, clearly not just in the course of one news cycle. And also, there was clearly an argument set out that you just ignored completely that the nature of this coverage would cause this person to pass the 10-year rule. Your position inexplicably seems to be that being just a candidate for office automatically disqualifies someone from having a Wikipedia page, which is ridiculous. Devonian Wombat ( talk) 21:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Firstly, I didn't say BLP1E has anything to do with this — I raised BLP1E as an example of why just counting the footnotes for their number is not an automatic GNG-maker in and of itself. It's merely one example of how our policies explicitly state that the number of media hits the person can show counts for a lot less toward the notability race than the context of what the person is getting covered for does. And secondly, any notability claim that boils down in its essence to "first person with X characteristic to do a not inherently notable thing" is not in and of itself a WP:10YT-passing notability claim. Being an incumbent officeholder's "first left-wing challenger in Y amount of time" is not, in and of itself, a reason why any significant number of people would still remember his name in 2030, even if he loses the race he's running in. Being an incumbent politician's "first left-wing challenger" is not inherently important or enduringly noteworthy in and of itself. Bearcat ( talk) 14:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • @ Bearcat:

    then the test he has to pass is not just a reason why he might be of interest to some people today, but a credible and convincing reason why an article about him will still be necessary in 2030

    In case you missed it, I made a case for this in the comment you replied to. Gaelan 💬 ✏️ 19:09, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NBIO, online search does not yield any independent sources, article on the Italian Wikipedia is no different. ToThAc ( talk) 17:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was deleted as G11. (non-admin closure) —   HELLKNOWZ   ▎ TALK 10:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Article deleted via PROD, restored via REFUND. Non-notable entity, written as promotion. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 17:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Saw fan films universe

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Basically, the article is about three short fan-films based on the Saw franchise. None of these films passes the basic notability threshold of significant coverage in reliable third-party sources and the only sources provided about the films are their IMDb pages, a source that we consider unreliable. The article also contains a few paragraphs about fan films that are simply copied from the article Fan film. Pichpich ( talk) 17:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

List of Portuguese football records in other countries

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Another list of expatriate football people that's just arbitrary glorification. Fails WP:LISTCRUFT and WP:GNG. KingSkyLord ( talk | contribs) 17:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. Merge can be discussed separately. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This book is, obviously, abject nonsense on a stick. The question for Wikipedia is: sure, it's bollocks, but is it notable bollocks? I argue not. There are remarkably few sources about the book itself. Those we have are generally not the kinds of sources that establish notability for books. Skeptical Inquirer, for example.

In fact the sourcing on Emoto's article is also sparse and several overlap. There is really only one subject here - Masaru Emooto's nonsensical beliefs about water - and few, if any, reliable sources that address the book without addressing Emoto's methods. A merge to a single title, Masaru Emoto (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), seems to me to provide better overal coverage of this amusing but ultimately trivial backwater of woo. Guy ( help!) 17:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

( WP:OTHER alert), hell I have seen books kept with fewer sources than this. Slatersteven ( talk) 17:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • This: There are other times when it is better to cover notable topics...as part of a larger page about a broader topic, with more context...Sometimes, several related topics, each of them similarly notable, can be collected into a single page, where the relationships between them can be better appreciated than if they were each a separate page. Having separate articles constitutes WP:Undue weight. We have here an author, his fringe theory, and the book he wrote to promote it. These are all one interrelated topic which should not be split up. Reader understanding is indeed improved by having the context of the other article be together with this information. Crossroads -talk- 03:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I think the book's article does a pretty good job showing that the subject is bunk without needing to be in the authors article. He also wrote several books on the subject should they all be covered in his article, assuming sufficient RS coverage of course? But I do not know about it not having an article to stop nonsense from growing, not sure I agree with that argument. It is established to have enough independent RS coverage to exceed requirements for a notable book, because its junk science does not change that. PackMecEng ( talk) 15:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Merge and Redirect to Masaru Emoto The sources given for notability of the article do not establish notability independent of the author so merging to the parent topic per WP:NOPAGE, as Crossroads points out, is appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The sources *do* establish notability. The fact that the book is obviously full of nonsense is not a policy-based argument for deletion or merger, so far as I understand. ApLundell ( talk) 23:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep* The book was a New York Times Bestseller, it should have a Wikipedia page. I agree that it was utter nonsense, but it was still a New York Times Bestseller. Maybe this fact tells more about the audience than the book itself. I guess this page deserves to be kept as it makes an interesting story about how a book full of nonsense became a Bestseller. There should be content on Wikipedia which can successfully object Prejudice about these bestselling lists. Inkmesh ( talk) 06:38, 19 April (UTC)
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

5th Republic (musical)

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Doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY. 2015 AfD closed as no consensus, minimal engagement. Boleyn ( talk) 16:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. This is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Once this has had a professional off-Broadway or Broadway run, then it will be notable. Hundreds of works are tried out at the NYMF, but they are not notable until they have a notable professional theatrical run. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 07:13, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I couldn't establish that they meet WP:NBAND or WP:GNG, however I'm aware I'm limited language-wise. Boleyn ( talk) 16:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hard to evaluate, but I couldn't establish that he meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Possible redirect to 3MA, but their notability is also in question. Boleyn ( talk) 16:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Medical prescription#Legibility. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The old trope of doctors bad handwriting is, well, a trope. It's not encyclopedic and rarely are stereotypes notable outside of a historic context. Praxidicae ( talk) 16:05, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

I looked at that source but could not find the citation to the actual report, can someone post a link to the report? Erkin Alp Güney 19:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Yeah, we don't rely on anything reddit has to say. Praxidicae ( talk) 18:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I linked to an image as an example, not the discussion as a proof. Erkin Alp Güney 18:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The citation I have added in the last edit shows that this is not the case, telling that it is intentionally unreadable. Erkin Alp Güney 14:53, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Not limited to prescriptions. See post of mine above. Erkin Alp Güney 13:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Not a vote "the deletion process is a discussion and not a vote", says the guide. Erkin Alp Güney 08:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
In addition, discussion entries are not meant to be edited. Undone the strikethrough for you. 08:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
"Do not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one. The recommended way of doing this is to use strike-through by enclosing a retracted statement between and after the *, as in "• Delete Keep"." "You can explain your earlier recommendation in response to others but do not repeat a bolded recommendation on a new bulleted line." You are being disruptive. Reywas92 Talk 18:00, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Does not meet the notability requirements James Richards ( talk) 15:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:BIO. A source from a hospital or a university reporting on their own history, a passing mention, and primary sources? While being one of the first four to do something is an achievement, it doesn't automatically make someone notable, as there are by definition thousands of women to be the first to graduate in X at university Y. Lacks significant attention in independent sources. Fram ( talk) 15:28, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete there is not enough reliable 3rd party sourcing to show notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I'm seeing articles in medical journals; those should qualify as independent. She was one of the first two to graduate with a medical degree; they graduated the same day, so it does seem like a tie for first, doesn't it? First female in your coutry to have a medical degree is something. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 20:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • One article, in one medical journal, spends one line on Alice Robson ( [32] this is the same article, from a sister journal, available online: see page 240). The result here is very similar and equally lacks depth of attention to Robson. The moment, the event, is important: the person not so much. Fram ( talk) 07:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I have found other articles in popular US newspapers under her maiden name. I'll scour newspaper databases for more coverage. DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 14:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • And do any of them do anything but drop her name as "one of the graduates"? Because more passing mentions just show that the event of women graduating in Glasgow got some attention at the time, but not that Alice Robson herself got any real attention. Fram ( talk) 14:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Yes, she received more than passing mentions in the articles under her name at the time. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 11:17, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Good finds. Thanks for adding them. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 11:17, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:20, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hammad Siddiqi

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A promotional article, no enough coverage to prove he is a notable economist? Fails WP:GNG. Seems like started by himself, see User talk:Hammad1. Störm (talk) 14:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was Deleted as G12 on 14 April 2020, 07:31 (UTC) by User:Sphilbrick. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 19:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Rose Kirumira

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This article or section may have been copied and pasted from ( http://www.theugandanmasters.com/Rose_Kirumira.html), possibly in violation of WP:COPYVIO policy as per CopyVios report. Please review immediately. Amkgp ( talk) 14:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Minor Changes that Will Help Combat Global Warming

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essay/unencyclopedic. We already have plenty of articles on Global warming and sourced articles about proposed changes to negate the effects. Praxidicae ( talk) 14:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Perhaps, but Wikipedia isn't a WP:WEBHOST either, so it's not really appropriate for any space. Praxidicae ( talk) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
True. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 17:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Dings the auto-accept portion of WP:NPOL by virtue of being in Parliament. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Joe basically put a ballista bolt through the nomination statement. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • I'm writing to ask what is the problem with the page as:
(a) no such page for this individual,
(b) it's impossible for this page to be submerged into another page ie his page, as one doesn't even exist on Wikipedia.
(c) If it is a question of evidence for Elsie Jury then sufficient references do exist to substantiate information as to her lifetime contributions Elsie Jury from institutions such as the Royal Ontario Museum (Ontario, Canada), the Museum of Ontario Archaeology and companies such as Timmins Martelle Heritage Consultants Inc.
Please could a reason be provided why this page has to be deleted as it remains unclear as it seems is the problem is that the problem may be that this individual or was an academic, or was a practicing archaeologist/historian or a Canadian? If either of these is a problem I'm at a loss why this page ought to be deleted?
Best wishes and thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35winds ( talkcontribs) 13:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. All of the references cited in the article are about his non-notable single "Me & You". A Google search of the subject does not show him being discussed in reliable sources.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 12:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Puddleglum 2.0( How's my driving?) 00:27, 23 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Marricke Kofi Gane

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The subject fails WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR and WP:ANYBIO. All of the references in the article and online are about his unsuccessful presidential bid. The subject did not get media coverage prior to his announcement. He has authored 11 books but none of them are notable, and has held senior positions at several non-notable organizations. Per WP:BLP1E, he doesn't deserve to have a separate article at this time.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 12:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hi  Versace1608 , at this point looks like you really don't read the article I have written that you keep tagging for deletion. This subject has not had an unsuccessful presidential bid if you took time to follow properly you would know that he is still running for president but the formal nominations have not been opened yet. How that is unsuccessful I don't know. But yeah go on this would be my last response to you on any of the deletion nominations. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 13:05, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Owula kpakpo: Pardon me if his presidential bid isn't unsuccessful. That still doesn't change the fact that he is only known for a single event. None of his books were discussed in reliable sources and none of the organizations he held senior management roles at is notable.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 13:16, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Enock4seth: I misspoke about his bid being unsuccessful; having said that, he still fails WP:NPOLITICIAN and doesn't meet any requirements outlined in WP:AUTHOR and WP:ANYBIO. I will change my vote if you show me reliable coverage of him prior to his presidential bid and reliable coverage of his books being discussed in reliable sources.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 13:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: @ Versace1608:, you keep missing the point, again like I have been telling you it's easy to speak like that when you don't have the context and background of us living here and understanding what passes for notability or not. You are quick to jump to conclusion and come back to rationalize it. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 13:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Owula kpakpo: I am not missing any point. I have the right to nominate any article that doesn't meet our notability requirements. People are not notable simply because they are running to become their country's next president. Gane was not discussed in reliable sources prior to his presidential bid and all of the sources cited in the article are about said bid. I do not need to have any context or background man. I have written a few articles about Ghanaian celebrities, the likes of Efya and Becca.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 15:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Versace1608:, so the few you referred to are actually this two Efya and Becca so that pass you off as an authority on who notable Ghanaians are than those who actually live in Ghana. Like I said previously do whatever you want, have a nice day. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 11:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Owula kpakpo: For your info, I have created more than two Ghanaian-related articles; check my userpage if you want to count the number of Ghanaian-related article I have created. I am not claiming to be an expert in anything. I know a non-notable figure when I see one; Kane is a non-notable figure who does not meet our notability requirements at this time. You do not need to catch feelings over this. Like I said earlier, show me reliable coverage of him prior to his presidential bid and reliable coverage of his books being discussed in reliable sources. If you can do this, I will change my vote and withdraw the nomination.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 16:21, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Versace1608:, all I have to say about the article I have said above and I won't even go any further clearly this is your stock in trade and you enjoy doing it so keep at it. At least I know one thing this are the kinds of attitudes that makes it tough for some of the newbies we recruit to keep editing because someone with no contest would make volunteering to edit Wikipedia a hell for them. Owula kpakpo ( talk) 20:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Owula kpakpo: You really have things twisted man. I am not trying to make editing Wikipedia "a living hell" for anyone. If I do recruit any newbie here, I will make sure they properly familiarize themselves with our notability requirements. Doing so will prevent their articles from being nominated for deletion. There are some Wikipedia editors who consider themselves a deletionist; however, I do not see myself as one. I wish we had more African editors contributing to Wikipedia. BTW, I'm from Liberia. 21:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Keep the subject is definitely notable but please take off the linkedin link, it is not a source -- AlejandroLeloirRey ( talk) 19:07, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Consensus that notability isn't met Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:49, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Elizabeth Amoaa

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. She is only known for being born with Uterus didelphys. Three of the article's five references are not independent of the subject. The first reference is about the health condition she has and not about her. The fifth reference is about some of the organizations she founded or is affiliated with.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 12:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Blockchain#Types. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 15:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Previously nominated by David Gerard and kept as no consensus, but with very little discussion and the only real Keep advocacy being the article's creator. This is a dictionary definition, basically, and there don't appear to be sources for it to be anything else. We can say what it is, and pretty much nothing else. Attempts to add sourcing have fallen at the usual hurdle: wikis and crypto bulletin boards are not reliable sources. I think this should be at best a redirect to blockchain. Guy ( help!) 11:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Redirect for now at most. This is a term that feels like it should be citable properly to Wikipedia standards ... but in years, we've singularly failed to - David Gerard ( talk) 13:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to blockchain. If suitable sources haven't turned up in years, then there's nothing else for us to say, and we don't need to take a whole page to say it. XOR'easter ( talk) 22:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Merge to Blockchain#Types. The previous AfD noted some reliable sources: A page or two in the book [45] published by CRC Press and a solid page in the book [46] published by Princeton University Press. There is a briefer mention in the book [47] published by O'Reilly. All three are good sources. They might be enough for marginal notability, but are definitely enough for verifiability of basic facts about sidechain technology. According to our policy WP:ATD, we prefer alternatives to deletion for verifiable material. In this case, sidechains are a special type of blockchain, so the blockchain article would be a good target for a merge. --{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk} 20:45, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Academic Challenger ( talk) 17:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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He doesn't meet any of the 6 criteria of WP:SOLDIER. In relation to WP:GNG, there are major WP:SIGCOV issues. Searching the biography ISBN on Google Books it states that the publisher is CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform which appears to be self-published and not Lighthorse Publishing Company as stated on the page, while Amazon shows no information. Reference 1 is Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association which is not WP:RS. Reference 3 is the VVA review of the book. The other sources all fall into "...only mentioned in passing in reliable secondary sources should not be considered notable for the purposes of a stand-alone article...". Mztourist ( talk) 11:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete does not meet inclusion criteria for soldiers. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:57, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as subject of a independent published book. The book was published in 2015, more than two decades after Cozzalio's death - clearly no direct relationship, although it appears his brother provided some photographs. Book was published by Lighthorse Publishing according to the book itself. The book received an award in the 2016 Independent Publisher Book Awards in the category Best Adult Non-Fiction Personal E-Book [48], and the author has published at least one other book. This book carries the Amazon rankings #198 in Vietnam War Biographies (Books), #272 in Military Aviation History (Books), and #172 in Military History (Books).
Furthermore, I would argue he is close enough to WP:SOLDIER#1 to make an exception for that. He has the second highest award - Distinguished Service Cross, once and so many other awards (Silver Star, Distinguished Flying Cross (4 times), Soldier's Medal, etc.) that I would consider them collectively equivalent to a second Distinguished Service Cross. MB 03:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The issue with the book is its reliability, which, as an independently published book, is questionable. Book rankings are irrelevant. One DSC and other lesser awards don't satisfy #1 of WP:SOLDIER. In any event WP:SOLDIER is just certain presumptions of notability and as I said above there are GNG concerns. Cozzalio appears to have served honorably but unremarkably. Mztourist ( talk) 03:15, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The rankings are not irrelevant; they are an indication of reliability, which you question. Fewer people would purchase an unreliable book. Given that there are millions of books published and listed for sale, I think these rankings show the book is well accepted. It has also received 183 customer reviews on Amzazon, most of them 5-star. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MB ( talkcontribs)
The rankings are not an indication of reliability at all! They are based on sales numbers, which aren't particularly high for any of the categories. The customer reviews are purely subjective and can be manipulated. Reliability requires editorial and peer review, which for an independently published book is questionable. Mztourist ( talk) 04:01, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The book does not fall into reliably published category, so it would be at the level that a person wrote an autobiography about someone and self-published it. I couldn't find much information about that publishing company. Graywalls ( talk) 21:16, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I would conclude from reading Independent publishing that while such a book may be unreliable, it isn't necessarily. MB 22:08, 19 April 2020 (UTC) reply
It's not a reliable indication of notability. In Google Scholars, there's no indication that book has been cited in other reliably published materials, and there are no other books that really talk about him. There is a US Military recruiting office publication, which confirms he existed but there's no indication of notability that warrants a stand-alone page. Customer reviews of a book has absolutely no bearing on suitability as a source. I couldn't find anything about the obscure Lighthorse Publishing Company either. Graywalls ( talk) 04:23, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Unfortunately, the main source is a self-published book. CreateSpace, Amazon's self publishing platform, is clearly listed on the the book's copyright page. Amazon allows authors the option of creating a publishing company name and this appears to have happened here. The book is said to have a Bronze Medal from the Independent Publishers Awards. These awards require entry fees and are noted for being primarily designed to profit the sponsors of the contest. The criteria for judging is greatly based on the outward appearance of the book. High marks go for the cover and overall design. There is no guarantee the book will even be read. The Cozzalio book does have a very nice cover and could be well written, but it is self published and that it not a reliable source for WP. I cannot find much of anything else about Mr. Cozzalio, even in newspaper archives. I have no doubt he was a fine soldier and greatly admired by the men with whom he served, but I think there should be more reliable sources found in order to prove notability and justify a WP article. Roam41 ( talk) 18:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I agree with the above arguments. It's not appropriate that our main source is a self-published book. We don't have significant coverage by reliable sources here, and so deletion is the right call. It's certainly frustrating since this solider clearly was well-known in his community and deserved to be so due to his achievements. Yet, as has been found multiple times in these discussions, being well-known in the general sense isn't the same thing as technically being notable. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 09:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. notability not shown Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:49, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Swapno Chowa

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Completely unsourced, fails WP:GNG, only “Swapno Chowa” to be found is a YT-channel. Kleuske ( talk) 10:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Terminus Technologies

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Fails WP:NCORP/ WP:CORPDEPTH. Passing mentions and routine business announcements only. Promotional tone, author declares COI on userpage. Kleuske ( talk) 08:29, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I'd like to address the "routine business announcements" comment above. Some of these sources are full-length articles related to the business from reliable sources used in several other live wiki articles (Forbes & Fortune being the most notable). Furthermore, another user pointed out that the company possesses a profile on Bloomberg and Crunchbase (again both sources accepted as reliable in several other company related Wikipedia articles).

Initially, there may have been a mildly promotional tone, changes were made immediately and the current article reads factually. I also invite other editors/admins to make changes to ensure that the tone is objective in nature, but do not believe the article warrants deletion. Evisramz ( talk) 16:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy deleted by an Admin per WP:G7 ( non-admin closure) --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 16:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Vangelis Polydorou

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Subject of the article is a musician that does not satisfy WP:SINGER. Only known for being a finalist in a musical event. A BEFORE shows a gross lack of notability. Celestina007 ( talk) 08:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Redirect to The Voice UK (series 5). No notability beyond that series (of which he was actually a semi-finalist).-- Laun chba ller 15:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete clearly not enough sourcing to show notability. Beauty pageant winners are one of our too large groups of articles on non-notable people that are going to push us over 1 million articles on living people unless we start monitoring articles better. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:07, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO Dan arndt ( talk) 05:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG / WP:ANYBIO. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Whilst the winner of a national beauty pageant (non-notable competition - see WP:1EVENT), did not place in the international pageant. Has no other significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG. Dan arndt ( talk) 05:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Cannot find sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. All the coverage I could find is:

  • [49] (Russian), which gives a brief description of the show.
  • [50] (Russian), which mentions the show trivially and appears to be a blog
  • [51] (Russian), which announces the show will be broadcast in Ukraine. Appears to largely be a republication of a press release.
  • [52] [53] [54] [55] (Portuguese), which all appear to trivially cover the changing of the program's time-slot.
  • [56] (Portuguese), which appears to be a blog criticizing the program
  • [57] (Portuguese), which appears to be a blog criticizing the program
  • [58] (Portuguese), which covers the aforementioned time-slot change and covers the program itself in more depth userdude 08:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete - This seems rather clear. We don't have the reliable sourcing that we need to cover a television program in depth. We've got a promotional article as it stands that's full of various claims without anything sourcing at all. As it stands, the situation is quite bad. Deletion absolutely makes sense. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 10:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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He does not look notable, is only covered in local newspapers and whoswhos's, was also deleted in frwiki. P . S. Chevalier des Palmes Académiques is given to 4.5 thousands people each year, so it is too minor an award. Wikisaurus ( talk) 01:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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Player who has never played in a competitive match between two teams from fully-professional leagues (failing WP:NFOOTBALL) and, more importantly, has not received significant coverage (failing WP:GNG). I have afforded the article creator a chance to demonstrate notability before this AFD but he has failed to do so. Giant Snowman 20:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ Davidlofgren1996: where is the coverage that comes with notability? Giant Snowman 16:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
@ GiantSnowman: Where is the coverage that comes for any international footballer for a country in the bottom 100 FIFA ranked countries? Where is the coverage for most of the footballers of the early 1900s? Davidlofgren1996 ( talk) 17:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Your case is that he is notable because he has, quote, "played in the CAF Super Cup". There is plenty of coverage about footballers in DR Congo. Please find it for this person. Giant Snowman 17:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Lets be honest, he's never going to have any major coverage on him. Nor are a lot of the footballers that have Wikipedia pages. You said yourself that you had this player in your draft space, so you were waiting for him to either move to Anderlecht and make an appearance there, or make an appearance at senior international level. If he had made one senior international appearance, what difference is a game against, say, the Rwanda national football team in a meaningless friendly to one of the most prestigious competitions in African football, the CAF Super Cup? He would have no less coverage after one international friendly game than he does now. Davidlofgren1996 ( talk) 19:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
That's patently false. More appearances at a notable level = more media coverage. That's the whole bloody point of NFOOTBALL! Giant Snowman 19:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
You're telling me that, for example, an international footballer for the British Virgin Islands is going to get coverage? Let's take Carlos Septus or Desire Montgomery Butler for example, two players with over 15 caps apiece. Absolutely zero coverage. Davidlofgren1996 ( talk) 20:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - He was also called up (but sat on bench) for national team. I've added references supporting that. With him playing regularly at highest level in his country, on the edge of the national team, and with international club appearances, there's presumably GNG coverage out there, if one had access to local media. Also has had other international coverage such at this and this. And what about his U23 disqualification per this, which resulted in the disqualification of the entire DR Congo U-23 football team? That's well into GNG territory, with several other references out there too. Article needs improving. Nfitz ( talk) 19:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Looking through French language sources I think he pretty clearly meets WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T· C 17:50, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ SportingFlyer: what sources are those please? Davidlofgren1996 was unable to provide any prior to this AFD and Nfitz specifically talks about the lack of "local media". Giant Snowman 17:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Sources like [59], [60] is about the other player who transferred to Anderlecht but should be used in the article to show he didn't make the grade for some reason, [61], [62], [63], [64]. Some of those are just mentions, but I just did a Google News search and went in a few pages. Clear keep IMO SportingFlyer T· C 18:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I never said there was a lack of local media - I never checked ... there was no point digging any further. Nfitz ( talk) 04:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Non-notable and promotional. Most of the references are mere notices, and there do not seem to be any references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources DGG ( talk ) 19:12, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep this article about a school science initiative per WP:GNG. I am seeing a handful of local independent media reporting on what it has been doing in a number of schools. While the prose could use some improving, I don't see it as being promotional, with even some criticism having been included. StonyBrook ( talk) 00:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
that's the point: it's only the local media DGG ( talk ) 03:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
The notability guideline only requires the sources to be reliable and independent, which these are. StonyBrook ( talk) 08:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
New York's Jewish Education marketplace is as "local" as is Wall Street on Manhattan's island to the United States' financial marketplace. As such, "local" coverage means the center. This is similar to how stories about new Federal buildings in Virginia or Maryland (e.g. Social Security Administration) are not merely "local." Pi314m ( talk) 01:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Author update: Long Island Herald, certainly not a Jewish newspaper, ran a story about a December 2019 CIJE-run STEM competition for Jewish schools in the Northeast. Top 3 winnings by HAFTR (a Jewish girls school) in CIJE's robotics competition is the focus of the story. STEM gets mentioned via two other Jewish schools, YCQ and relative newcomer JEC/NJ.

    I just added about this competition to the article. Yes, CIJE's perhaps overly prominent place in the headline could have have been replaced by "Jewish girls show their robotics talent" but the story is about the students and their accomplishments, and how CIJE played a role. Pi314m ( talk) 02:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 13:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Unable to locate any significant biographical details in secondary sources. Passing mention in sources cited. Magnolia677 ( talk) 14:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep notable producer and artist within the cloud-era hip-hop community. HiddenHiddenHidden ( talk) 15:26, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - While partly notable due to his connection with genuine chart success, the main issue appears to be that Mullings is primarily known as a collaborator and somebody who works behind the scenes. It's incredibly common in the music industry for producers to do great work with excellent artists and never become well-known themselves. As an individual, he doesn't appear to cross the line as far as our notability standards go. I'm not too sure about this, but I'm inclined to support deletion. CoffeeWithMarkets ( talk) 17:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Majority of the sources cited in the article are promotional links to the subject's music. A Google search of the subject didn't bring up coverage in reliable secondary sources.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 18:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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As best I can determine, this is just a name the California highway maintenance department slapped on the intersection at some point in the 1960s. They are the locus of most references to the place, and the name doesn't show up on topos until 1973; go back into the 1940s and the key road follows a different route. There is of course nothing here but a couple of houses, all of which look to be small ranches; old topos show different buildings but never more than a couple. Mangoe ( talk) 02:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Delete, or redirect to Parkfield, California. Nothing more than a name on a map, like many other California location articles. CJK09 ( talk) 03:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Additionally, a redirect does not seem appropriate here. It is not related to Parkfield beyond being on the other end of a road that happens to lead there. – dlthewave 00:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NBOOK. Could not find any coverage about this except a passing mention in an Audible books list. No reviews of note. PK650 ( talk) 20:12, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I have no idea how this passed AfC at all. Neither Battle For Forever or Idiots in the Machine have any SIGCOV, awards, or reviews. He clearly fails both the GNG and WP:AUTHOR. All three were created by SPAs. PK650 ( talk) 20:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Please note the above Keep vote by twerk000 is from an account that has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry. -- Kbabej ( talk) 23:24, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Struck. Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 03:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Simply claiming to be a bestselling author doesn't cut it. Bestseller lists can also be gamed and don't constitute notability any more than social media followers. I do not see any policy based reason to keep the article. b uidh e 23:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Delete. Most of the sources are not about the subject; they're either his own website or just mention him. Source #1 is his own website. Sources #2-5 are about a convicted murderer who used to live with the subject; see WP:NOTINHERITED. #5 only mentions him. That leaves 6-8, which are about his spec scripts (perhaps notable, but I don't think it passes GNG). Then #9, which, again, only mentions the subjects. It adds up to a lot of nothing. -- Kbabej ( talk) 23:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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Hungarian Spectrum

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Per request at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Deletion_request:_Hungarian_Spectrum, alleging WP:SOAPBOX.

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This article: Hungarian Spectrum must be deleted: self promotion, soap boxing, political activism. The creator of the page Stevan Harnad used and uses repeatedly the WP to spread his political views - just take a look at his editing history:

He edits his own wp article: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Stevan_Harnad&action=history

He spreads political opinions as facts: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_68#Constitution_of_Hungary

etc.

It is just another attempt. Hungarian Spectrum is a closed facebook-group, the main contributor has ZERO scientific output.

Speedy deletion tag already placed, but I guess that Harnad will remove it soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 19:57, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi. I have removed the speedy deletion tag. Your reason, "self promotion and soapboxing", is in line with WP:G11, but I really don't see the content of the article as "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten". I have no comment on the notability of the subject (which is not a valid speedy deletion reason anyway), or on your apparent claim of conflict of interest. If you think the article should be deleted, please use WP:AFD. Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 21:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply
More than the half of the whole article consists of a quote from George Soros about his vilification in Hungary, and his appraisal (philantropist etc. - he has his own wp article, no need to repeat it here!), and his views on Viktor Orbán. It is clearly soapboxing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 06:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Then nominate it for deletion at WP:AFD. Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 11:59, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I don't know if there is some confusion here, but AFAICT, the article is about this blog https://hungarianspectrum.org/ . It seems to just be a blog hosted as a normal website. It's not a closed Facebook group. Maybe there is a closed Facebook associated with the blog but if there is, that's not what the article is mostly about. In fact the article never seems to have mentioned the closed Facebook group AFAICT. The blog seems to mostly about politics and stuff, so I'm not entirely sure why anyone would expect people associated with it to have scientific output anyway. Nil Einne ( talk) 14:08, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Summary up to this point:
    1. Speedy Deletion of Hungarian Spectrum (created in April 2019) was requested by User 84.224.163.158 on April 1 2020.
    2. Editor Boing! said Zebedee removed the Speedy Deletion tag and wrote: "I have removed the speedy deletion tag. Your reason, "self promotion and soapboxing", is in line with WP:G11, but I really don't see the content of the article as "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten". I have no comment on the notability of the subject (which is not a valid speedy deletion reason anyway), or on your apparent claim of conflict of interest. If you think the article should be deleted, please use WP:AFD."
    3. User Nil Einne added: "I don't know if there is some confusion here, but AFAICT, the article is about this blog https://hungarianspectrum.org/ . It seems to just be a blog hosted as a normal website. It's not a closed Facebook group. Maybe there is a closed Facebook associated with the blog but if there is, that's not what the article is mostly about. In fact the article never seems to have mentioned the closed Facebook group AFAICT. The blog seems to mostly about politics and stuff, so I'm not entirely sure why anyone would expect people associated with it to have scientific output anyway."
    4. User 84.224.163.158 then placed a tag calling for citation evidence of Notability. I then provided the evidence and removed the tag.
    5. There was further discussion of a quotation that Editor User:MarkH21 found too long. After some exchanges User:MarkH21 trimmed the quote and this is now resolved.
    6. Editor User:DGG has also helpfully modified the heading of a section in which User 84.224.163.158 had posted some information critical of the creator of the blog, Professor Eva Balogh, for being left-liberal and critical of the Orban government in Hungary. This criticism is fine, indeed welcome! It is true and valid: All the authors in Hungarian Spectrum are critical of the Orban government in Hungary. And it is for WP users to judge whether that undeniable fact is a valid reason for deleting the entry for Hungarian Spectrum.
    7. A Deletion tag was applied today (April 5), linking to the prior exchanges among Users 84.224.163.158, Boing! said Zebedee, User:MarkH21 and myself during these 3 days.
    8. I would like to ask those who take part in this Deletion Discussion to please first read those prior exchanges, as well as their continuation from when the Discussion was transferred to the Talk section of Hungarian Spectrum so that the same points need not be repeated here (except if Users find some of them unresolved).
    9. In summary, the article on Hungarian Spectrum is a short, factual and objective description of a daily blog of 13 years standing that features critical analyses of current developments in Hungary, most by Professor Balogh, a historian specializing in Hungary from 1900 to the present -- a blog whose visibility, timeliness and influence has been growing with the current developments in Hungary.
    10. One particular very current development may or may not be relevant to this Deletion Discussion. I leave it to fellow WP Users to judge: The initiative by User 84.224.163.158 to delete the WP entry for Hungarian Spectrum began on April 1st -- two days after the Orban government "voted in favor of passing legislation that would create a state of emergency without a time limit, grant Prime Minster Viktor Orbán the ability to rule by decree, the suspension of parliament with no elections, and prison sentences for spreading fake news..." [1]. Journalists within Hungary are understandably fearful... All the articles in Hungarian Spectrum since March 30 have been devoted to this topic, and the reaction of the Hungarian democratic opposition, the EU, and the rest of the world to it [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]. Hungarian Spectrum (the blog) is chronically targeted by anonymous Orbanian trolls. Is 84.224.163.158 the vanguard of a similar initiative in WP? -- User:Harnad ( talk) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)-- User:Harnad ( talk) 22:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)-- User:Harnad ( talk) 23:31, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - obviously soap boxing and POV pushing and lack of notability. Even the creator of the page admits that he thinks anyone not agreeing with his version of the text is involved in Hungarian internal politics and/or Orbán-troll. See the opening remarks of this page: "The initiative by User 84.224.163.158 to delete the WP entry for Hungarian Spectrum began on April 1st -- two days after the Orban government "voted in favor of passing legislation that would create a state of emergency without a time limit, grant Prime Minster Viktor Orbán the ability to rule by decree, the suspension of parliament with no elections, and prison sentences for spreading fake news..." [1]. Journalists within Hungary are understandably fearful..." etc. etc.
Total paranoia. Harnad is doing a crusade, he often uses even the talk pages to spread his views, just like now: you can read about the oppressed Hungarians - soon the article itself will be expanded by him with long citations, as he is trying to do so now. And the references he mentions are circular references: friends refer to each other. Just like in the case of the Canadian-Hungarian Democratic Charter. It was founded by the author of this blog, and the article about it was created by Harnad. Here is the discussion, and so on. Repeated violations of the WP:neutrality policy and also a breach of WP's conflict of interest policy.
And Stevan, please don't create more articles about yourself, just like you created the Stevan Harnad article in the French WP. We have been through this many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.204.13.123 ( talk) 13:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ "We"? I have no idea who you are. And this discussion is about the contents of Wikipedia entry Hungarian Spectrum and the blog it describes, not me. -- User:Harnad ( talk) 15:53, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ User:MarkH21, I'm not sure I understand your question. Hungarian Spectrum is the WP entry for a blog. The nearest point of comparison would be a WP entry for a (notable) Journal: Behavioral and Brain Sciences has an impact factor of 17.194; that is not based on sources discussing Behavioral and Brain Sciences itself but on sources discussing the content of the articles that are the content of Behavioral and Brain Sciences. Am I misunderstanding something about sigcov (for [Journal] entries in WP)? -- User:Harnad ( talk) 13:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC) -- User:Harnad ( talk) 14:00, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I am referring to WP:SIGCOV, which requires that the blog has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. It is the basic notability guideline used unless one of the specific notability guidelines apply. In this case, WP:WEBCRIT may apply, which requires that the blog has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. So far, I don't see published works where in the Hungarian Spectrum is the subject; I only see articles where it is quoted or very briefly mentioned. — MarkH21 talk 14:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ User:MarkH21 I still don't understand. Hungarian Spectrum is a blog publishing one article per day since 2007. Most of the articles are authored by Eva Balogh, who is the creator and editor of the blog. It is her articles and their contents that are discussed when they are cited, not the blog itself. (There do exist some discussions directly of the blog itself: should I cite those too? But I would think that, as with any notable journal, it is discussions of the contents of its articles that make the journal notable, not discussions of the journal per se.) All the citations I referenced in response to IP's call for notability (journal articles, books, newspaper articles) were independent, of course, not self-citations or citations by colleagues or associates of Professor Balogh. -- User:Harnad ( talk) 14:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The criteria that I linked in my last comment are about coverage of the blog itself. Whether there is significant coverage in reliable independent sources is the principal metric used for notability on WP. — MarkH21 talk 14:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep This AfD has been open by a WP:SPA IP who tries clearly to delete this article for pure political reasons. The content of the article satisfies all Wikipedia policies, including WP:NPOV. The only thing that deserves a discussion here is whether the blog satisfies the notability guidelines, and specially whether it has an international coverage. The fact that the blog is archived by Library of Congress (reference 4) is a first positive indication. A Google search on "Hungarian spectum" provides almost 600 hits, and the entries of the first page of results include medias of France ( La Croix), Belgium ( RTBF), Italy, Brazil ( Zero Hora) and Romania. So, it is clear that this Hungarian blog has a significant international coverage. D.Lazard ( talk) 16:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I refuse the charge. As I've already proven, there is a clear tendency in the creator's activity towards soapboxing. In fact, if You check the edit history, you can see that I tried to upgrade the article: the authors speciality etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Hungarian_Spectrum&action=history . It has nothing to do with political affiliation.I typed "Hungarian spectrum" as well - I got results only from the blog itself.And if you take a closer look at the talk page of the article, you can see that it is actually the author, Stevan Harnad who tries to politicize things, accusing the opponents of being paid trolls etc.-- 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 18:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
By the way, you can even have your Twitter archived...just fill in the form http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/personalarchiving/websites.html:How about asking any editor guys working on articles dealing with Hungary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.224.163.158 ( talk) 19:02, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++Did I say "paid"? -- User:Harnad ( talk) 19:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++And your ( WP:SPA IP) beef sounds like it's not with Hungarian Spectrum but with me ( WP:NPA). I suggest you take it to my talk page -- User:Harnad ( talk) 20:26, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ D.Lazard: From the Google hits, I haven’t found any examples of those articles being sigcov as opposed to just quotes or brief mentions of the blog. — MarkH21 talk 03:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Specifically:
  • The La Croix article only mentions the blog once: [...] estime Kim Lane Scheppele, professeur de droit à l’université de Princeton et spécialiste de la Hongrie, dans une analyse publiée sur le site Hungarian Spectrum.
  • The RTBF article mentions the blog once: Le site politique Hungarian Spectrum, très critique à l’égard de la politique de Viktor Orban, parle de chèque en blanc pour le Premier ministre...
  • The Zero Hora article mentions the blog once: [...] segundo o Hungarian Spectrum, site independente fundado pela professora de história da Europa Oriental de Yale Eva Balogh.
They're only passing mentions. — MarkH21 talk 07:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I'm slightly left of centre by British standards which means I'm way left by Hungarian standards. However, I'm not seeing any significant coverage independent of the source. What I'm looking for are BBC (or other media) articles saying "Hungarian Spectrum say this" and I'm not finding it. Seems decidedly niche. BTW. I've subscribed. Nigej ( talk) 21:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ Nigej,Would you settle for The Economist or The New York Times (Braham obituary)? That's just off the top of my head. I can search for more, but of course it will never be able to compete with notability in sport ;>) Everything scholarly is niche relative to that! -- User:Harnad ( talk) 23:45, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Those are more examples of articles that quote or briefly mention the blog, which is different from providing significant coverage about the blog. — MarkH21 talk 03:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I think the difference is that I can find a golf tournament in 1940 which was reported in hundreds of different newspapers from one side of America to the other. No one's heard of it now but it was notable at the time. Not scholarly I agree but Wikipedia is not scholarly, it's populist. Nigej ( talk) 08:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Nigej, you can find hundreds of sources like that simply by clicking on the word "news" in the searches at the top of this discussion. Phil Bridger ( talk) 06:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Phil Bridger: I genuinely don't see any sources that say more than half a sentence about the blog. Could you link some? — MarkH21 talk 07:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I said that there are hundreds of sources there of the type that Nigej described, not of the type that you described. Phil Bridger ( talk) 07:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Oh sorry, I misunderstood what Nigej was looking for. — MarkH21 talk 07:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. There is a clear consensus that this blog is mentioned by many notable medias all around the world, but there is no (not yet?) consensus whether this is a significant coverage, or, in other words, whether these mentions are trivial mentions. In fact, WP:SIGCOV says "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention". The open question is thus "what is a trivial mention?". Clearly a sentence such as "there is a blog called Hungarian Spectrum" is a trivial mention. But the mentions of the blog in medias are not of this type, they of the type "our source for some aspect of the political situation in Hungaria is Hungarian spectrum". This is far to be trivial, as this implies that the blog is an influential media. I agree that this implication is somehow WP:OR, but every reader may understand that by himself, and may therefore want to know more about the blog. This makes a WP article very useful. Therefore, if the blog does not satisfy formally the notability guidelines, this means that WP:IAR applies here (If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.). D.Lazard ( talk) 11:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    I've never interpreted Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention to mean that any non-trivial mention is significant coverage though. — MarkH21 talk 11:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++Here are some more citations and mentions (some may also be in the reflist I earlier added to the article itself in response to WP:SPA IP's Notability tag): [1] [2] [3] -- User:Harnad ( talk) 16:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Harnad: We already know that there are hundreds of articles that briefly mention / quote the blog. Could you find any (and please nothing from Blogspot, Twitter, opinion articles, etc.) that actually talk about the blog in detail? I.e. one that has more than a sentence written about Hungarian Spectrum. — MarkH21 talk 16:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
To editor Harnad: This discussion is about Hungarian Spectrum, not about Hungary. It appears that some of the references that you have added do not contain the word "spectrum". Please, remove them. Otherwise, as we have plenty of mentions of this blog in notable media, the discussion focuses on whether these sources suffice for establishing notability. It would help to reach a consensus, if you can find a source that gives more details on Hungarian spectrum, and is independent from it. D.Lazard ( talk) 17:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The ref 5 below (in www.libertatea.ro) in a Romanian medium is an example of the requested sources. A source in English would be better. D.Lazard ( talk) 17:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++As suggested by D.Lazard I've left only the more extensive citations, but if the decision about deletion is based on how many articles discuss the blog itself, rather than the content of its articles I can't help. When (as they say) the history is written, I think Professor Balogh's exposés of the goings-on in Hungary during these crucial years will be recognized as not only having documented the critical developments for the non-Hungarian-speaking world well in advance of the major international news media, alerting and leading them to it (as the citations show), but also as often having anticipated developments well in advance of when they went on to happen. It may even turn out that the remarkable remote web with which she has already been monitoring and reporting on Hungary daily for over 4700 consecutive days will have played not just a chronicler's role but a causal one in how it all turns out. But to see that, you have to read what others have picked up from what she has said in her blog -- not what they've said about her blog. -- User:Harnad ( talk) 01:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Unfortunately, WP cannot predict the future nor directly assess a website's importance (we have to rely on secondary sources' assessments). Also, aren't the WaPo and NYT articles also only half-sentence mentions? — MarkH21 talk 01:47, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. It is clearly a propagandistic blog financed to regularly describe Orbán as a fascist, authoritarian dictator, but it is regularly mentioned in mainstream media. Borsoka ( talk) 00:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment — I agree with the concerns above about whether there is actually any significant coverage of the blog, though I'm not confident one way or another. I looked through most of the long list of references given to justify notability and they seem to be only footnote citations or off-hand mentions. Perhaps a better option would be to have an article on Balogh herself, who does seem to be safely notable, and integrate Hungarian Spectrum as a section? — Nizolan ( talk · c.) 12:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
++ User:Nizolan, I'll be happy to try to do a bio entry for Éva Bologh either way -- separate or merged -- but I don't know enough about the biographic details and reliable sources. I invite those who know more to send me the data, either on my Talk page or by email (easily found at UQAM or Southampton, but I don't check my McGill email regularly). -- User:Harnad ( talk) 21:43, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Move to Éva Balogh, otherwise delete. Given that none of the coverage (except perhaps the Libertatea interview article) offer significant coverage of the blog itself, this article should be deleted. However, there is an argument for the notability of the author of the blog herself via WP:JOURNALIST#1 as she is cited in dozens of news articles in dozens of languages through the blog. This article can easily be converted into one on its author, with much of the content shifted to a section for the blog itself. — MarkH21 talk 05:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 06:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable company, the citation that is about it is from blogs, and also from contributors such as on Forbes which can be paid for. James Richards 01:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • I don't agree with your point about the blogs, most of the sources are from reputable news outlets, including business insider. Certainly has enough press coverage to meet notability guidelines TheWarOfArt ( talk) 02:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
What is there to disagree with? Blogs are generally not view as Reliable Sources - see here.
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  • Delete Not a single reference meets the criteria for establishing notability and I am unable to locate any further references that are any better. Most references fail to include any "Independent Content" as per WP:ORGIND or are mentions-in-passing and therefore have no in-depth information on the company and fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Topic fails GNG/NCORP. HighKing ++ 12:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep many of the sources are simply not blogs (Stuff, Business Insider, Forbes) and for reasons mentioned above TheWarOfArt ( talk) 20:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • TheWarOfArt, we know the company exists and has a marketing presence but the mere existence of reference does not denote notability. Also, there's a difference between references to support the existence of a company and facts about the company which essentially is WP:RS. There are difference standards for establishing notability and for companies/organizations, the guidelines are WP:NCORP. I'll provide a breakdown of specifically why the references fail Wikipedia's policies/guidelines for establishing notability below. HighKing ++ 12:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Analysis of sources shows that none meet the criteria for establishing notability. In fact, not even close. HighKing ++ 12:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • This from Business Insider] is an article on whether it is safe to travel to Mexico and as part of the article they ask various experts their opinion. The CEO and Operations Manger of the company provides quotations for the article. There is no "Independent Content" as per WP:ORGIND and no in-depth information on the company, failing WP:CORPDEPTH.
    • Thie from TravelDailyNews is entirely based on an interview with the Director of Operations and contains "Riskline's 10 top travel risks for 2020" which is published by the company themselves. The exact same details/article is also published in other publications such as Tourism Sri Lanka, the Northstar Meetings Group and G4 Risk Solutions and has been mentioned in a lot of other publications too such as the Business Travel Magazine. There is no Independent Content nor any in-depth information on the company. Fails WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH.
    • This from Sunrise is a company announcement from Sunrise who won a contract to build their new branding. There's also a case study of the project. Sunrise are therefore *not* unaffiliated with the company, reference fails WP:ORGIND
    • This from Travolution is based on a company announcement and release of new city-level safety maps. The article relies entirely on information provided by the company and has no Independent Content. Similar articles based on the same announcement such as CIR Magazine and Insurance Edge. Since none contain Independent Content, they all fail WP:ORGIND.
    • This from ITIJ is based on a series of report released by the company entitled "The Female Traveller Safety Reports" and relies entirely on information and quotations provided by the company and their officers. It has no in-depth information on the company, fails WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • This from Stuff is an article on Thai anti-government protesters activities in Bangkok. It includes one single quotation from a political risk analyst working for the company. It is a mere mention-in-passing and is not significant coverage, reference fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • This "reference" from MySafeTravel is for a mobile app that provides safety information from their partner company, the subject of this AfD. There is no information whatsoever on the company nor is it significant coverage. Reference fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • The Forbes reference is from the part of the site that is not considered to be under editorial control nor reliable, fails WP:RS. Even leaving that aside, there is no in-depth information provided on the company and the relevant parts rely entirely on quotations provided by an officer of the company, failing WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH
    • This from Northstar Meetings Group is covered above, fails WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH
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  • Delete as non-notable, all the apparent refs contributing nothing towards notability as explained above, despite the article author's protestations. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 17:39, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • I appreciate everyone's points. However, this reads to me as deletionism when perhaps {More citations needed} or {Refimprove|date=April 2020} would be a better choice and allow for future community improvement. In this vein, I have also added additional sourcing. TheWarOfArt ( talk) 19:59, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I would agree with the argument that the sources provided/listed above (Stuff, Business Insider, Forbes) are reputable sources and being listed in those places is notable due to their outreach and brand recognition. -- XtasyofGold ( talk) 20:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Comment The problem with the Forbes article is that it is not written by a staff member of Forbes but instead by a contributor of Forbes. -- James Richards ( talk) 04:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC) reply
    • I would add that the argument are reputable sources and being listed in those places is notable due to their outreach and brand recognition is the very argument that WP:NCORP makes sure is not valid. Companies have PR teams and marketing teams - they know that "those places" provide their company with "outreach and brand recognition" and that is why they pay to have "articles" written about them. That is why we look at the *content* of the article and look for "Independent Content" (which is defined in WP:ORGIND). If you believe any of the sources contain "Independent Content", please explain here. HighKing ++ 11:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete - The sources often fail SigCov, sometimes fail reliable and very often fail to be independent. Overall, I don't think it could pass GNG, and certainly no the higher NCORP standards. Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. This close is going to be a little strange. On the one hand, there's clear consensus to delete, so I don't see any way I can close this otherwise.

On the other hand, the last relisting comment notes that he apparently won an election during the time the AfD was running, which presumably would be a significant factor in determining notability. Yet, nobody commented after that. So, let me just note that, as always, if events evolve to make somebody notable who wasn't earlier, there's no bar to recreating an article after it's deleted. I would urge anybody who wants to recreate this, however, to make sure to include WP:RS which establish that he now passes WP:NPOL. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable politician and businessman, little reputable references. James Richards 02:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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  • This must be the first case that I've seen of a subject not meeting a notability guideline as a direct result of the COVID-19 pandemic. If the election had not been postponed Reddy would have been elected unopposed on 26 March to the Rajya Sabha, the upper house of India's parliament. His election was not opposed because Rajya Sabha members are elected by MLAs who usually vote on party lines. He may still pass WP:GNG even though technically he doesn't pass WP:NPOL. Phil Bridger ( talk) 10:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if circumstances change. The problem with the election being postponed due to the COVID-19 situation is that, unopposed or not, it currently remains possible that he might never actually assume the office at all — he could die in the pandemic, the government could retract his nomination for any number of reasons before the rescheduled election actually takes place, and on and so forth. So the time for an article about him is once he's actually been officially elected to the office for real, and it's not enough to just assume that he will hold the office eventually. Bearcat ( talk) 18:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Please note the Rajya sabha elections not yet over and there are 5 candidates for 4 seats in Andhra Pradesh and hence the MLA have to vote after a 5th candidate entered the fray as per this and Rajya Sabha elections have been postponed indefinitely as of now due to COVID-19 as per this.Hence he fails WP:NPOL as of now. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 18:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. It is not clear whether census-designated places qualify as "populated, legally recognized places" under WP:GEOLAND. I see that there is an ongoing discussion on the talk page of the guideline; should it resolve as no, feel free to renominate for deletion. King of 15:55, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This is a subdivision/census tract census-designated place within Muhlenberg Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania. Newspapers.com has numerous ads and promotional articles from the 1920s, but nothing that suggests this was a distinct community. – dlthewave 14:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ Editorofthewiki: Please show me where in the WP:GEOLAND guidelines a census-designated place is always considered notable. My reading per geoland: census tracts are usually not considered notable unless SIGCOV exists. From our own Wikipedia article: Census-designated place The boundaries of a CDP have no legal status and may not always correspond with the local understanding of the area or community with the same name. Lightburst ( talk) 16:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
CDPs are bigger than tracts; in areas where town incorporation is uncommon (e.g. Maryland) towns, even some cities (such as Silver Spring), are CDPs because they don't have legal boundaries. There are problems with the lines the census draws, but it seems reasonable to me that the assignment of a definite population qualifies as sufficient official recognition of a settlement of some sort; as a rule the census is establishing a CDP because there is some sense that people think of it as a distinct place. Mangoe ( talk) 17:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Comment: You have stated that this is kind of a general feeling you have - as you have stated: it seems reasonable to me. However, I am not finding this - nor has anyone quoted actual WP:SNG) to support this feeling. I would suggest an RfC. Until then I cannot see that this CDP passes GNG or Geoland. Lightburst ( talk) 18:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
FWIW I have started a discussion on the topic at Wikipedia talk:Notability (geographic features). I am of the opinion that "legally recognized places" DOES include CDPs as the Census Bureau tracks and provides data for them. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 21:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC) reply
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The 5th and 6th sources are about Muhlenberg Township, although 6 does have a reference to "Muhlenberg Village" and I don't know if that refers to the township in an earlier era or the Muhlenberg Park area. 1 - 4 are are passing mentions to people from "Muhlenberg Park" and other such trivia, clearly not in-depth sigcov about it. Source 3 is the best, it defines the boundaries but something like that could probably be found for every NN neighborhood. Still does not meet GNG. Anything important from any of these kinds of sources can be added to the township article per GEOLAND: "information on the informal place should be included in the more general article on the legally recognized populated place or administrative subdivision that contains it." MB 16:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep This CDP is clearly defined as an inhabited/populated place, plus per above statements. Wikipedia as an encyclopedia should be comprehensive & in this case take its lead from RS that has established the CDP. Djflem ( talk) 17:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. King of 15:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:GNG. Plenty of articles by this person, but hardly one about him. Let alone WP:RS. Article is under sourced and (partly) autobiographical. Kleuske ( talk) 09:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Just out of curiosity, which part of WP:AUTHOR do you feel this article has demonstrated? Bonewah ( talk) 16:04, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The third point. His works (books) are the subject of "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." If only one book had been reviewed multiple times, I would have suggested redirecting to that work. In this case, several of his books are reviewed. TJMSmith ( talk) 16:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Thanks. I read that as only in conjunction with the first part "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work" Of course, what counts as significant or well-known will be based in part on what articles and reviews say so there is that. Bonewah ( talk) 20:22, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. The sources appear to be only passing mentions, not significant coverage. King of 15:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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This person fails WP:NBIO. Interstellarity ( talk) 19:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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It would be helpful if you would specify what organizations sponsored the events she won medals in. There are lots of karate and kickboxing organizations and they're not all equally important. For example, WP:NKICK specifies the kickboxing organizatons that are notable and the World Karate Federation is by far the most important karate organization. Papaursa ( talk) 03:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC) reply
She doesn't appear to meet WP:NSPORT or WP:MANOTE and she is not ranked by the WKF. I don't read Persian, so do the sources provided show that she meets WP:GNG? Papaursa ( talk) 15:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete I was not able to access all of the references in the article and I had to rely on Google translations of Persian, but I didn't see the significant independent coverage that would be needed to meet WP:GNG. For example, articles mentioning the large number of medals won by Iranians at a competition in India didn't even mention most of the medal winners by name, much less provide significant coverage of each of them. Papaursa ( talk) 03:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply

* Keep - the sources are from national Iranian TV and clearly mentions her as a medalist. other source belong to IRNA which is the official news agency of Iran, both meets WP:GNG and WP:RS. Spada II ♪♫ ( talk) 18:59, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply

I crossed out this vote since you had voted previously. Was the Iranian TV coverage truly in depth or just a routine reporting of sports results? It's important since she hasn't competed in anything that would seem to met any of the SNGs. Again, I defer to those speaking Persian. Papaursa ( talk) 22:58, 9 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - Its a report but there are several reports not just one. The article is not written well bu I think it should stay. Spada II ♪♫ ( talk) 06:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • CommentIranian television is not active in broadcasting news related to women's sports, unless they have won medals at the Olympics. Paint them and introduce them .

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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no major festival wins for this short film, no non-trivial critical comment. DGG ( talk ) 01:27, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 14:58, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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I respectfully suggest this artist seems non-notable. The most frequently cited source is an unverifiable master's thesis, and other sources are mainly indirectly related (primarily re: Native American art in general and not the subject). A Google search reveals most mentions are related to past small gallery shows and others don't seem related to his art at all. The article appears to be almost entirely original research. B.Rossow · talk 01:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Eva Volitzer

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Subject of article is an actress who doesn’t satisfy WP:NACTOR, A musician who doesn’t satisfy WP:MUSICBIO & in general lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources hence falls short of WP:GNG. A BEFORE doesn’t reveal anything concrete to prove notability. Celestina007 ( talk) 01:13, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Withdrawn by the nominator. (non-admin closure) Mhhossein talk 08:15, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Tamara Levitt

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She is known for only one thing; as the narrator of the Calm app. As such, a mention of her on that page is sufficient per WP:NOPAGE. Spinning Spark 00:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep She's not just the voice, she also writes the meditations and is in charge of content development for them. There are multiple long profiles of her, discussing her early life, how she became involved with mindfulness, etc. Yes, everything she's notable for is connected with the app, but that doesn't make her not notable. --valereee ( talk) 16:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I've pulled up a couple more sources, including another profile in The Times of London and a review of one of her books, not associated with the app. --valereee ( talk) 17:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. King of 15:46, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hattie King Reavis

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I get that finding sources on these older subjects is difficult, but I'm not seeing anything that that's even properly claimed in the article as to why this subject is notable, much less is it proven. Showboat is likely their most notable performance and it looks as if they were a member of the "ensemble" and it was before the musical hit Broadway. There's the claim that the subject recorded a song that was "a hit", but no context provided for what is meant by a hit. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NARTIST Sulfurboy ( talk) 00:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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Keep, WP:BEFORE would apply here. [ [71]] like this tell me this individual is notable. She is also mentioned here [ [72]]. There are the provided references in the article too but if her material is still being cited, produced and sold 100 years later fair to day she is notable. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Dude one of those sources is a wordpress blog site that only mentions the subject in passing and the other is a directory of literally every person that was ever in that orchestra. How do either of those establish notability? Not seeing anywhere that she is cited or produced "100 years later" not sure where that is coming from. Nor about her music being sold 100 years later. Sulfurboy ( talk) 01:29, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Here's another source [ [73]], cited as an artist in this dissertation [ [74]], She's cited here in [ [75]] Century of Musicals. I can keep digging but I am sure she qualifies as a stand alone article. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Cited here [ [76]] as "The SSO best known members" Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Cited here in a book written in Italian [ [77]] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 01:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The first source there is basically a track listing, the second literally mentions the subject once in reference to a group of people that are on a recording and the third one is a cast list from a non-notable show. Again how do any of these, or the first two you mentioned demonstrate notability? You may want to refer to WP:SIGCOV and WP:ROUTINE and WP:DIRECTORY. Also, how about that other claim you made of her being cited, produced and sold 100 years later? I love the enthusiasm and welcome a differing opinion, but if you are going to make claims in an AfD, please support them with facts and make sure you are citing proper policy. Cheers Sulfurboy ( talk) 01:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
LOl, you admit that it's hard to find indepth sources for older performer, especially black ones but I can show you that she is mentioned in multiple venues over a long period of time as per WP:SUSTAINED. The fact that we can show this many citing her as one of the "best known members of the SSO" and multiple other mentions suggests you are simply ignoring what is presented not only by the author but myself. I think you're a little sad I moved this to article space over your decline frankly and while I do believe you did make a decision that you thought was best you are ultimately off base. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Again, I don't think cite means what you think it does in Wikipedia terms. I could care less about it being approved after I declined it. There's been literally thousands of articles I've declined that went on to be approved. You've also failed to show anything beyond WP:ROUTINE or WP:NOTNEWS AfC reviewing is not a competition and it's sorta sad that you view it that way. However, if you want to accuse me of having an ulterior motive, that's probably best suited at WP:ANI and not in an Afd. Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
easy there, no one said anything about ANI or any need of dispute resolution, this is just a discussion no need to get butthurt. I am observing a potential cause for your inability to accept anything being presented here. You can have your opinions about what citing means here and I can have mine. I can trust my 11 years experience here in writing and reviewing articles. Feel free to disagree but IMO what you are throwing up is moving goal posts, first it was that it was hard to find more info that described a hit, now it's something else entirely. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment There's no opinion involved with what cite means. It's in fact clearly defined in the very first line of WP:CITE. Any goal post moving I did was in response to new claims after old ones were abandoned. And I don't think you can accuse me of ulterior motives and call me "butthurt" and then also call this a discussion. Since civility seems to be heading for the door, probably best I WP:WALKAWAY too. Cheers Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Hhere's another one [ One of the better revues was The Sheik of Harlem, starring Hattie King Reavis and Irvin Miller, which allowed mid- 1923 audiences to see "the frothy side of Harlem life" with all its foibles and vices prominently displayed, as well as a chorus of ...] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
And mentioned here in 1969 in the [ The high spots of the show, in my opinion, were the singing of Miss Hattie King Reavis and, a step lower, the drollery of Mr. Miller himself. The day I saw the show Miss Reavis drew down more applause than any other member of the cast...] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Here's another review [ |May 1921 a group called " L ' Orchestre Symphonique Americain " appeared at the Theatre des ChampsElysees in Paris . This group was presented by H . W . Wellmon and certainly included both Hattie King Reavis and Buddy Gilmore ] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
She is credited [ as part of the best plays in the Burns Mantle Yearbook] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
[ Credited in a Century of musicals, and singled out for a song she sang] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
She managed Urylee Leonardos, as per [ page 13 in the Indianapolis Recorder] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 03:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
The Richmond Planet, in 1925, described her [ Miss Hattie King Reavis is a peculiar character. She has a charming re- tiring manner, a voice that possesses charming melody and a stage dignity and modesty ...] Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 03:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Let's start with what is easy. Managing one artist does not make one notable. Simply being mentioned as being part of an orchestra does not make one notable. Hell in a Bucket (a user name that does not inspire confidence) starts out with two insignificant cites that made me think they are not even serious. Then, 3 and 4 were also not significant. 5 at least shows that she had a principal role in The Sheik of Harlem, a musical production at the Lafayette Theatre (Harlem), but the show is not even important enough to be named in the theatre's article; but the subsequent cite helps give context. 6 is insignificant. 7 could be promising, but let's have a translation! What is the cite from The Messenger about? Is it also about The Sheik of Harlem, or something else? Another cite merely stating that she was a member of the orchestra is not significant, as it has never explained why her participation in that orchestra was important. What show is Burns-Mantle talking about, and was her role in the show important? The next cite to A Century of Musicals is a duplicate (or at least a copy) of a previous one. What is Richmond Planet reviewing, just a cabaret performance? All of this, taken together, shows that she was a performer, and even hints that she was a good performer, but it does not show that she was a notable performer. If you want to save the article, you're going to need to find more significant coverage of her career. It is a losing argument to say that it is hard to find information about performers who died long ago. Here is an article on a black singer from much earlier. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 05:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
User:Ssilvers, you'd be correct 99 percent of the time with the idea about hard finding information on earlier individuals not being a winning argument. This particular case though it is a mitigating factor, this was not just a black person, but a black woman. Sometimes we have to account for the fact that racism and sexism would have played a role in how widespread mainstream coverage would have been. IMO when we consider those factors her notability becomes more clear, it's not superstar notability but it is there IMO. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 12:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: More careful searching would reveal much more about her, e.g. [78], but what we already have is evidence of her notability.-- Ipigott ( talk) 09:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. She was the executive director of American Negro Theater, and spent much of her career in Europe, for which sources are hard to find, at least for me. Given those facts, along with sources already in the article or mentioned above, she meets gng. Jacona ( talk) 12:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Given the time frame, unless one has access through Proscribe to the Associated Negro Press or a university archive which has archival materials related to black history, reference will be difficult to find in mainstream media. Many many snippits are indicators of notability; however, the fact that sources confirm that she regularly appeared in the black press is evident here and certainly here in which she appears 37 times in a 77 page document. There is a biography of her here pages 49-50. A song she sung was selected recently for inclusion in a CD on the artists of the Black Swans. She was elected to the board of the American Guild of Variety Artists, New York Chapter; apparently also wrote songs; performed into the late 1940s; and died in 1970. The few issues of The Age, a black paper, available on newspaper.com, confirm that she was often covered. [79], [80], [81], [82] over an extensive period of time. Clear indications here of notability and sufficient sources to meet GNG. SusunW ( talk) 15:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per all of the sources listed above. Sustained coverage and coverage by multiple reliable, independent sources (even if not substantial) are an indicator of notability, per WP:SUSTAINED and WP:BASIC, respectively. It seems like all signs point to her being notable. Not having easily-available online, significant coverage doesn't seem like a strong enough argument for deletion (especially in this particular case, where the subject is a black woman from the 1920s and there have been many sources found). - Whisperjanes ( talk) 17:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Jayna Tida

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A non notable actor with no reliable sources apparent to satisfy WP:NACTOR. Pahiy ( talk) 00:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC) reply

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