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List of sports television composers
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Not that all but one is entirely unsourced but WP:LISTCRUFT sums it all up. Virtually all of those bluelinked are not specific to sports broadcastings; for example, a bulk of John Williams' fame was from movie composing. Are we going to every film and TV composers who worked on the Olympics too. Are we going to list Emerson, Lake & Palmer ( Fanfare for the Common Man) and Fleetwood Mac ( The Chain) too? I cannot see this passing WP:NLIST too. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 10:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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List of figure skaters
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Grossly out-of-date and incomplete. Even if the list WERE complete AND up-to-date, there is no lead section, no cited sources, AND no explanation why this list is encyclopedically notable. In the current form, it will never meet the requirements of a quality list article on Wikipedia. I also don't really get the purpose of this article. For searching figure skaters, we have the category "figure skaters", which has the big advantage that newly-created biographies are automatically added there. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, a valid navigational list. A clearly defined list of bluelinks selected by an obvious important characteristic of the subjects. Fram ( talk) 15:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Valid list that is in need of an update. However, AFD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Frank Anchor 15:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, sure it needs work to update, but other sports have similar lists; i.e., Lists of tennis players, List of current AFC team rosters. Some are sourced, some aren't (i.e., List of female American football players). Christine (Figureskatingfan) ( talk) 15:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: This nomination is nonsense. It tries to justify deletion by pointing out ways that the article could be improved, which assumes that the article should be kept in the first place. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 01:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Valid navigational list created on Jul 4th, 2008. It would be more useful if all the names were in columns, with columns available to show more information about them.
Dream Focus 02:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I just finished adding sortable columns. Dream Focus 02:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's comment Someone can close this AFD as it has received no other delete votes and the article can be salvaged. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep List is valid and may require updating and addition of other entries. -- Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 11:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. We don't need a complete list of every figure skater ever in one article. ON the topic of other articles, WP:OSE applies, but also Lists of tennis players is links to lots of different sub-articles with specific criteria, List of current AFC team rosters and List of female American football players has sufficiently few people that an encyclopedic article with text could be created. Listing thousands of figure skaters in one article would make a ridiculously long article, which isn't needed. Splitting by winning significant events e.g. world/continental championships would be sensible, but this article is and always will be a directory violation. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Split Too large to justify a single list. PetScan counts 4825 articles within the Category:Figure skaters tree, which are almost all biographies. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 20:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Black Reel Award for Best Breakthrough Performance
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My PROD tag was removed, so here we are. This is an older duplicate of Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance. As this award was divided into two categories from 2014 to 2023, the article is also partly a duplicate of Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Male and Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Female. Sgubaldo ( talk) 16:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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- A redirect (and merge, if necessary) to Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance seems quite uncontroversial (as the edit summary of the person who dpD the page stated, if I remember well). I had thought about it and deproDd it before reverting myself but on second second thoughts, redirects are cheap. I don't even think an Afd was necessary but thanks for taking the trouble.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep then merge
Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Male and
Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Female into
Black Reel Award for Best Breakthrough Performance. If we delete
Black Reel Award for Best Breakthrough Performance we lose the 2003 through 2013 awards which were not divided by gender. ~
Kvng (
talk) 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The 2003 to 2013 awards are already covered in Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance. The article here is practically an older copy of that, hence the nomination. Sgubaldo ( talk) 18:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Algerian Cup Final referees
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Irrelevant article of mostly non-notable people, which doesn't meet WP:GNG. We tend to only have articles like this for major events like FIFA World Cup referees, not for national cup tournaments like this one. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 10:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, not relevant for Wikipedia. Geschichte ( talk) 12:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:NLIST. Svartner ( talk) 18:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Heights and weights of US presidents
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Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE and failure to meet WP:LISTN. In addition, we also already have Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States. Hey man im josh ( talk) 19:09, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Di (they-them) ( talk) 19:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete or Redirect to
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States: This list is already included as part of the aforementioned article. Weight isn't a notable detail about these people, either.
Samoht27 (
talk) 18:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I simply created the list because I was unable to find any website that allowed me to compare my self to a US president. Also if we are arguing that this is trivial then I feel that
US presidential nicknames would qualify in that category more than this would. I would also like a specific reason for deletion because I feel that it is currently based off of their being a similar article (
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States). I think this article is a valuable supplement as the
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States article dives deep into comparison of heights amongst candidates this article over the broader scope of the presidents general body size.
Pickup Andropov (
talk) 01:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- How are US presidential nicknames trivial? They are often important aspects of the presidents campaigning, or important aspects of how the presidents are viewed in popular culture. Furthermore, there being a similar article is a valid cause for deletion, since such articles serve as a Redundant Fork. Samoht27 ( talk) 19:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I simply created the list because I was unable to find any website that allowed me to compare my self to a US president. Also if we are arguing that this is trivial then I feel that
US presidential nicknames would qualify in that category more than this would. I would also like a specific reason for deletion because I feel that it is currently based off of their being a similar article (
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States). I think this article is a valuable supplement as the
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States article dives deep into comparison of heights amongst candidates this article over the broader scope of the presidents general body size.
Pickup Andropov (
talk) 01:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. Reviewer here. I wasn't aware of
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States when I accepted the draft, which was my mistake.
'''[[ User:CanonNi]]'''( talk| contribs) 02:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States, as this list is already part of that article. BlakeIsHereStudios ( talk | contributions) 18:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete We already have a list for height and the weight is a trivial aspect. The weight being included in the title makes it a bad redirect to a list of only heights, so just delete it. QuicoleJR ( talk) 22:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for the reasons above. Ben Azura ( talk) 00:21, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, I don't think height or weight are notable characteristics of US presidents. JIP | Talk 11:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
List of rulers of Shan states
- List of rulers of Shan states ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article is a collection of 77 unsourced genealogies, with four footnotes. There is probably a notable list for this topic, but in its current state, WP:TNT is needed to make room; if all the unsourced genealogy material was removed, there would a a title and categories. Wikipedia is not a genealogy site. // Timothy :: talk 13:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Calling this a genealogy would be the same as calling List of French monarchs a genealogy; technically not incorrect but a bit silly as it is a list of rulers. Certainly passes WP:NLIST; for instance, in the appendix of this book, there is a list of the rulers of about 35 of these states from 1887 to 1959. It seems the majority of the present article is derived from WorldStatesman [1], which is of course deprecated. WP:TNT is an option that is on the table. Curbon7 ( talk) 22:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: I don't know if it's past the WP:TNT tipping point yet. It's likely that much of the content could be sourced from the generic references. Don't think the material is necessarily controversial enough to mandate WP:INLINE citations. Of course, it's also likely that WorldStatesman is the true source, hence the weak keep. I don't personally have much time to edit this week, but I could go through the book Curbon listed or find other books I do have on Shan states and try to inline cite some the week after that. But doesn't seem unrecoverable and full of misinformation just because of a lack of inline citations. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 03:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Here are some recent (last couple of weeks) examples of why TNT is needed:
[2],
[3],
[4]. None of this is sourced, no one can tell if these edits are correct or not. The article is too far gone to expect anyone to fix it. //
Timothy ::
talk 08:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Good selections- as far as I can tell it isn't merely even changes in romanizations/inconsistent dating between chronicles. Changing my vote to agree on TNT grounds. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 17:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Essentially no citations. Celia Homeford ( talk) 11:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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List of sports television composers
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Not that all but one is entirely unsourced but WP:LISTCRUFT sums it all up. Virtually all of those bluelinked are not specific to sports broadcastings; for example, a bulk of John Williams' fame was from movie composing. Are we going to every film and TV composers who worked on the Olympics too. Are we going to list Emerson, Lake & Palmer ( Fanfare for the Common Man) and Fleetwood Mac ( The Chain) too? I cannot see this passing WP:NLIST too. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 10:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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List of figure skaters
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Grossly out-of-date and incomplete. Even if the list WERE complete AND up-to-date, there is no lead section, no cited sources, AND no explanation why this list is encyclopedically notable. In the current form, it will never meet the requirements of a quality list article on Wikipedia. I also don't really get the purpose of this article. For searching figure skaters, we have the category "figure skaters", which has the big advantage that newly-created biographies are automatically added there. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, a valid navigational list. A clearly defined list of bluelinks selected by an obvious important characteristic of the subjects. Fram ( talk) 15:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Valid list that is in need of an update. However, AFD is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Frank Anchor 15:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, sure it needs work to update, but other sports have similar lists; i.e., Lists of tennis players, List of current AFC team rosters. Some are sourced, some aren't (i.e., List of female American football players). Christine (Figureskatingfan) ( talk) 15:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: This nomination is nonsense. It tries to justify deletion by pointing out ways that the article could be improved, which assumes that the article should be kept in the first place. HyperAccelerated ( talk) 01:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Valid navigational list created on Jul 4th, 2008. It would be more useful if all the names were in columns, with columns available to show more information about them.
Dream Focus 02:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I just finished adding sortable columns. Dream Focus 02:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's comment Someone can close this AFD as it has received no other delete votes and the article can be salvaged. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep List is valid and may require updating and addition of other entries. -- Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 11:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. We don't need a complete list of every figure skater ever in one article. ON the topic of other articles, WP:OSE applies, but also Lists of tennis players is links to lots of different sub-articles with specific criteria, List of current AFC team rosters and List of female American football players has sufficiently few people that an encyclopedic article with text could be created. Listing thousands of figure skaters in one article would make a ridiculously long article, which isn't needed. Splitting by winning significant events e.g. world/continental championships would be sensible, but this article is and always will be a directory violation. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Split Too large to justify a single list. PetScan counts 4825 articles within the Category:Figure skaters tree, which are almost all biographies. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 20:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Black Reel Award for Best Breakthrough Performance
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My PROD tag was removed, so here we are. This is an older duplicate of Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance. As this award was divided into two categories from 2014 to 2023, the article is also partly a duplicate of Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Male and Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Female. Sgubaldo ( talk) 16:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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- A redirect (and merge, if necessary) to Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance seems quite uncontroversial (as the edit summary of the person who dpD the page stated, if I remember well). I had thought about it and deproDd it before reverting myself but on second second thoughts, redirects are cheap. I don't even think an Afd was necessary but thanks for taking the trouble.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep then merge
Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Male and
Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance, Female into
Black Reel Award for Best Breakthrough Performance. If we delete
Black Reel Award for Best Breakthrough Performance we lose the 2003 through 2013 awards which were not divided by gender. ~
Kvng (
talk) 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The 2003 to 2013 awards are already covered in Black Reel Award for Outstanding Breakthrough Performance. The article here is practically an older copy of that, hence the nomination. Sgubaldo ( talk) 18:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Algerian Cup Final referees
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Irrelevant article of mostly non-notable people, which doesn't meet WP:GNG. We tend to only have articles like this for major events like FIFA World Cup referees, not for national cup tournaments like this one. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 10:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, not relevant for Wikipedia. Geschichte ( talk) 12:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:NLIST. Svartner ( talk) 18:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Heights and weights of US presidents
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Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE and failure to meet WP:LISTN. In addition, we also already have Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States. Hey man im josh ( talk) 19:09, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Di (they-them) ( talk) 19:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete or Redirect to
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States: This list is already included as part of the aforementioned article. Weight isn't a notable detail about these people, either.
Samoht27 (
talk) 18:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- I simply created the list because I was unable to find any website that allowed me to compare my self to a US president. Also if we are arguing that this is trivial then I feel that
US presidential nicknames would qualify in that category more than this would. I would also like a specific reason for deletion because I feel that it is currently based off of their being a similar article (
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States). I think this article is a valuable supplement as the
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States article dives deep into comparison of heights amongst candidates this article over the broader scope of the presidents general body size.
Pickup Andropov (
talk) 01:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- How are US presidential nicknames trivial? They are often important aspects of the presidents campaigning, or important aspects of how the presidents are viewed in popular culture. Furthermore, there being a similar article is a valid cause for deletion, since such articles serve as a Redundant Fork. Samoht27 ( talk) 19:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I simply created the list because I was unable to find any website that allowed me to compare my self to a US president. Also if we are arguing that this is trivial then I feel that
US presidential nicknames would qualify in that category more than this would. I would also like a specific reason for deletion because I feel that it is currently based off of their being a similar article (
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States). I think this article is a valuable supplement as the
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States article dives deep into comparison of heights amongst candidates this article over the broader scope of the presidents general body size.
Pickup Andropov (
talk) 01:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. Reviewer here. I wasn't aware of
Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States when I accepted the draft, which was my mistake.
'''[[ User:CanonNi]]'''( talk| contribs) 02:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States, as this list is already part of that article. BlakeIsHereStudios ( talk | contributions) 18:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete We already have a list for height and the weight is a trivial aspect. The weight being included in the title makes it a bad redirect to a list of only heights, so just delete it. QuicoleJR ( talk) 22:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for the reasons above. Ben Azura ( talk) 00:21, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, I don't think height or weight are notable characteristics of US presidents. JIP | Talk 11:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
List of rulers of Shan states
- List of rulers of Shan states ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article is a collection of 77 unsourced genealogies, with four footnotes. There is probably a notable list for this topic, but in its current state, WP:TNT is needed to make room; if all the unsourced genealogy material was removed, there would a a title and categories. Wikipedia is not a genealogy site. // Timothy :: talk 13:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Calling this a genealogy would be the same as calling List of French monarchs a genealogy; technically not incorrect but a bit silly as it is a list of rulers. Certainly passes WP:NLIST; for instance, in the appendix of this book, there is a list of the rulers of about 35 of these states from 1887 to 1959. It seems the majority of the present article is derived from WorldStatesman [1], which is of course deprecated. WP:TNT is an option that is on the table. Curbon7 ( talk) 22:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: I don't know if it's past the WP:TNT tipping point yet. It's likely that much of the content could be sourced from the generic references. Don't think the material is necessarily controversial enough to mandate WP:INLINE citations. Of course, it's also likely that WorldStatesman is the true source, hence the weak keep. I don't personally have much time to edit this week, but I could go through the book Curbon listed or find other books I do have on Shan states and try to inline cite some the week after that. But doesn't seem unrecoverable and full of misinformation just because of a lack of inline citations. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 03:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 14:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Here are some recent (last couple of weeks) examples of why TNT is needed:
[2],
[3],
[4]. None of this is sourced, no one can tell if these edits are correct or not. The article is too far gone to expect anyone to fix it. //
Timothy ::
talk 08:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Good selections- as far as I can tell it isn't merely even changes in romanizations/inconsistent dating between chronicles. Changing my vote to agree on TNT grounds. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 17:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Essentially no citations. Celia Homeford ( talk) 11:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)