The previous Masters pages included a weather section for each day of the tournament. /info/en/?search=2019_Masters_Tournament#Weather Johnsmith2116 ( talk) 13:19, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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I was wondering your reason for removing the succession boxes from the 4 golf majors? Thank you Tomrtn ( talk) 22:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
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As you've probably seen, I recently created a page for Vic Bennetts. He won a number of "cup" events during his amateur career. Some examples are here and here. I wasn't sure whether they are worthy of inclusion in the "Amateur Wins" section. I'll definitely keep them in the prose but I'm not sure if they meet our standards otherwise. They may be along the level of schoolboys championships. If you have the time, please briefly let me know your thoughts.
Thanks,
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I am almost done harassing you about Vic Bennetts. On your Australian Men's Interstate Teams Matches page, under the Appearances section, I noticed that you only have Bennetts playing in the matches from 1963 to 1966. However, I have links stating he participated in the 1962 and 1967 events. In 1962 article, it says he was selected for the "junior" team. Perhaps that is a different category? For the 1967 article, however, it says he was selected for the "senior" team - not sure what was going on with that but maybe he just selected to drop out later on? Any help would be much appreciated.
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One last thing about Bennetts. I have this link where he and his partner tied for the lead at the Australian Cup at the end of regulation. In the link they say the teams were going to play an 18 hole playoff the next week on December 22. I have scoured the newspaper search engines and found nothing. In addition, I checked the December 23 edition of the Sydney Morning Herald on Google News Archive and found no reportage of this event. (I also checked the Age and found nothing.) Not sure if you know anything of this alleged playoff.
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Hi there. FYI, I've been sandboxing the results and clipped many sources. See User:Wjemather/British PGA circuit#Northern Professional Championship. wjemather please leave a message... 16:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC) .
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I have spent the past few days adding a lot of information to the Shennecossett Golf Course page. I have noticed that the newspapers often refer to "Shennecossett Country Club" in my research rather than "Shennecossett Golf Course." They are probably referring to the same place and are simply making a little mistake. However, I wanted to consult with you before making more edits.
My misgivings basically revolve around the Connecticut Open (1910s event). (As full disclosure, I created that page.) In the course of my research for Shennecossett I noticed no mention of this early century Connecticut Open. For example, on the club's website, despite a comprehensive history section, there is nothing. In addition, in my research for the 1910s Connecticut Open they usually refer to "Shennecossett Country Club." Basically, I'm not sure if Shennecossett Golf Course and Shennecossett Country Club are different clubs. Any help would be much appreciated.
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A Rhodesian golfer named Ted Webber won the South African Amateur Championship (golf) in 1977 and 1978. I suspect this is the same person as Teddy Webber who finished runner-up at the 1986 South African PGA Championship. If so we should keep the names consistent and probably the flags. Do you know if this is the same guy?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 04:07, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
For Mark McNulty's win at the 1980 Malaysian Open there is this blue-ish flag with a the Union Jack in the corner. This flag also exist on the 1980 Asia Golf Circuit page. This appears to be similar to Rhodesia's national flag from 1964-68 (see Flags of Rhodesia). But clearly the dates don't match. (Meanwhile, under Flags of Zimbabwe they note the 1960s Rhodesian flag on the page but that's it.) I think it should probably change.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 19:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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I have some questions about the sections we use in the text. Firstly, I have a question about the Early life section. Before I used to include very early life stuff like where the golfer was born, family info, and some very early golf anecdotes. But lately I've been enfolding all high school stuff under Early life rather than including it under the Amateur career section. I usually begin the Amateur career section when the subject goes to college (or around the age of 18 if he doesn't). What are your thoughts?
In addition, I am almost done with the page of Jerry Stolhand and have some questions about how I should organize the page. Stolhand had an unusual career arc where he turned professional, then had his amateur career status re-instated, but then turned professional a second time. I've heard of a number of golfers that have regained their amateur status but none where the golfer turned pro again. I created an independent section for each era of Stolhand's career but wasn't sure if that was the way it should be done. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 03:25, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Hey,
You have mentioned in passing that Bobby Jones turned pro sometime in his career. On his infobox, however, it is not noted. I have scoured the internet for this information but all I have is this website which says he turned pro sometime in the early 1930s. Do you have any more evidence stating when he turned pro? I think this is important as all you hear is the media is "the lifelong amateur Bobby Jones," "the greatest golfer never to turn pro," etc. but never anything about his professional career.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 19:56, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Hey,
I have one more thing about Jerry Stolhand. I have included just about every potentially notable event he won in his Amateur wins and Professional wins sections. However, some may be dubious. The most potentially dubious ones I have listed below.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks,
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Hi, is there any way that you can amend the template for seasons from before 2013 as the Pro Golf Tour link does not work properly as it should be called EPD Tour from 2012 backwards. Thanks. Jimmymci234 ( talk) 19:46, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Last night I mentioned this on the main talk page but no one responded. In the Team Appearances section we usually create separate "Amateur" and "Professional" subheadings even if the golfer only participates in one category. However, if the golfer is only involved in one category then it seems extraneous to include a subheading. I think we should delete subheadings in cases like this.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 02:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Hey,
I am currently creating Rick Hartmann's page. He played on the European Tour for 10 years. I have found a lot of stuff on newspapers.com pertaining to his club pro career in the tri-state area after he retired. However, I have found very little pertaining to his career in Europe. I know he didn't have the most sterling career on the European Tour but I figured I would've found more. (He had seventeen top tens including a second and third place finish.)
I was wondering if you had access to British newspaper search engines (e.g. The Times). If so, could you briefly search for Hartmann on them and see if you could find anything? That will help me determine whether I should sign up for them.
Sincerely,
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Hello, I see that you recently undone one of my edits saying that there are three columns visible instead of two on wikipedia and it was a common mistake to make. How come I am not viewing three columns like other users ?. Thanks 31.200.181.247 ( talk) 21:18, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
Hey,
Thanks again for The Glasgow Herald articles earlier about Rick Hartmann. I think I used all of them. I'm pretty much done with his page but, as always, have a few lingering issues. They are listed below:
Any information would be very helpful.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 22:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
One last thing... On a tournament page it says that Hartmann finished runner-up at the 1989 Twee Jonge Gezellen Masters (i.e. South African Masters). However, on that page and in the Sunshine Tour sandbox of User:Wjemather there is no citation. In all of my research of Hartmann nothing popped up. I still included this information on Hartmann's page as it is one of his highest finishes on any big circuit. However, I would still prefer a citation. If you are able to find anything that would be very helpful. Oogglywoogly ( talk) 05:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Hey Nige,
Could we get this done? If their "yearpro" parameter is still populated we'll just have to deal with it; I personally don't think it's a big deal.
Thanks,
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When I started the Louisiana State Open page we talked about how there was some confusion between the state open and the PGA event. I have link here that says that the 1958 events were played concurrently. Jerry Stolhand won both events. My question is... should both of these wins be counted in his Professional wins section? I think it should definitely noted in the prose (as I have) but it seems redundant for the Wins section. What do you think?
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We just talked about this on the main talk page. Could we combine the "Current tour(s)" and "Former tour(s)" parameters and create a "Tour history" parameter with chronology? If merging is not possible, could we delete the existing parameters and create a new one? I know this will be a lot of work but I think it can be done. As I mentioned earlier, I will create chronologies for everyone in the pre-All Exempt Era (and probably do more...). Please let me know your thoughts.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 21:36, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
I posted about this on the main talk page but no one responded. Not sure if you could provided clarity on the New York State Open from the early 20th century. It appears there was a tournament with the same title around 100 years ago but probably unrelated to the modern event. Do you know if it was PGA Tour-level? If so, it probably deserves a page of its own.
Thanks,
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Hey,
I recently found primary sources for most individual Long Island PGA Championship events. Right now I'm having trouble creating a fluid table for all of the events though. The event started as a stroke play event, briefly changed to a match play event, and then returned to stroke play for another 35 years. In the 1970s, however, it returned to a match play format (which remains). Basically I want to create one smooth table for the tournament. However, I would like to include "To par" and "Margin of victory" columns which are unique to stroke play. Is there a way this can be done or will I have to create four separate tables?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:47, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi can I ask you a question. When you look at the above season does all the events finals sit on one line ?. When I view the page the finals are breaking into two lines etc. Why does it not sit all on one row like your view does please ?. 178.167.156.154 ( talk) 18:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
I found that toggle you were talking about bout it only works if the screen is at 90% right ?. If you put it to 100% the toggle or zoom option disappears am i right ?. Sure that is no good. Is there anway around this ?. Why did wikipedia mess around with there layout ?. can you view the toggle when your laptop is at 100% ? Thanks 178.167.156.154 ( talk) 19:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
How come it is there for you at 100% and it disappears for me when i go up to 100 from 90% ?. i always use 100% character size as well, Do you know why that is please ?. 178.167.156.154 ( talk) 20:28, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
I am afraid you owe an apology ?. You should now accuse people that you do not know ?. 178.167.182.17 ( talk) 15:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Not sure what happened there - I could have sworn it was the Challenge Cup article I was looking at! wjemather please leave a message... 08:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
I am busy creating a page for Mike Cahill. I have some questions though. According to this link he won the 1971 Victorian junior amateur. However, it's just a secondary source. Not sure if you could find a primary source.
Also, according to these links here and here Cahill played on the Victorian team for the junior interstate series in the early 1970s. However, I noticed on your Australian Men's Interstate Teams Matches page that he was not listed. Are these events different?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 17:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
In 1972, Cahill played in some international amateur event against South Africa but I don't know which one it is. (The link I originally had from The Age doesn't work anymore but here it is anyway.) I assumed it was the Commonwealth Tournament but I checked the Wiki site and the event didn't exist in 1972. (I would provide you a Google News Archive link from that date, October 6, 1972, but they don't have that day's page for The Age either.) Do you know what event it was?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 05:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I have an article here that states that Cahill made the 1973 Australian Men's Interstate Teams Matches team. However, there is no evidence that he played. I think he turned pro late in the that year which is why he may have been left off the team. Not sure if you know anything...
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey,
I published the Halls Head Western Open last night. I had a couple reservations and posted these questions on the main talk page last night but no one responded. They are beneath:
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your note about Past Papers. It is such a wonderful source and was very helpful for me when I created the page for Ted Douglas. If they significantly expand beyond the mid-20th century could you let me know?
In addition, do you know why they primarily stop at 1955? Seems a bit odd.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 01:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
In 1973, Terry Kendall won this event held in Orewa, New Zealand. In the article there is no mention of it being on the OoM. Nonetheless, I wanted to pass it off to you in the off-chance that it was part the circuit that year. (Fwiw, in your sandbox you do not label it as such.)
Sincerely,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 02:36, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
This is small thing but I wanted to bring it up. For the "Amateur" and "Professional" subheadings in the Team Appearances section I was following your lead and using sub-heading #2. However, on the page of Mike Cahill the bot User:WikiCleanerBot has twice changed the size from subheading #2 to subheading #1. See a " diff" here.
Perhaps, we should start using subheading #1 from now on for the heading hierarchies in this section. What are your thoughts?
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:59, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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I've making a lot of edits to late 1990s Players Championships recently. Naomichi "Joe" Ozaki is referenced frequently however his name is not consistently spelled. Sometimes it's Naomichi Ozaki and sometimes it's Joe Ozaki. I noticed on most Wikipedia pages we just use his Japanese name. However, I noticed on the PGA Tour website that they use the name Joe Ozaki. I'm actually inclined to use his English-language name as this is an English-language website. However, I'm not sure what MOS says about this.
In addition, whatever we decide for his name should be applicable to his brothers Masashi "Jumbo" Ozaki and Tateo "Jet" Ozaki who have similarly styled names and other Asian golfers where this is relevant (e.g. Tsuneyuki "Tommy" Nakajima). Let me know your thoughts.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 21:24, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
I think this section should clearly be deleted on all of the individual tournament pages (e.g. 1974 Tournament Players Championship, 1999 Players Championship) for this event. The Players has almost always been at the same course and the location is already noted in the infobox. Not sure if you have any other thoughts though.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 22:35, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
I recently created an Eligibility requirements section for the 2000 Players Championship. Usually I just need the PGA Tour Media Guide and the PGA Tour website to determine who got in. However, criterion #7 is a bit different as it refers exclusively to the top 50 in the OWGR. I went through the Official World Golf Ranking archives and easily determined who made this requirement. However, I have had trouble uploading this archive as a citation. (The main option I have is this: file:///Users/lightelligence/Downloads/Week%2011%20Ranking%20-%20Sunday,%20March%2019,%202000%20(2).pdf.) OWGR only gives you Microsoft Word or PDF as options to upload a document. Not sure if you know how to convert this document into a website - any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 03:00, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
FYI, I noticed this edit did not amend the flags to flagicons, so have corrected it. I'm not sure if there are any others. wjemather please leave a message... 14:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
This one is just a curiosity thing. I was wondering why a number of golfers who qualified for the 2000 Players Championship did not play. Criterion #9 in the Eligibility requirements refers to the top golfers that year who were otherwise ineligible. Below is the list of golfers that got in through this qualification standard and their money list rank at the time:
Shigeki Maruyama (#11), Matt Gogel (#21), Robert Allenby (#22), Russ Cochran (#41), Naomichi Ozaki (#93), Trevor Dodds (#135), Ronnie Black (#140), Eric Booker (#169)
The first four guys make sense. But then there are a loads of golfers between Cochran and Ozaki who could have played (e.g. Robin Freeman (golfer), Jay Williamson) but did not. And in between Ozaki and Eric Booker there are even more (e.g. Craig Spence (golfer), Grant Waite, Joe Ogilvie). Do you know why so many elected not to play? I would assume that a lot of the alternates just weren't at the TPC prepared to play but wondered what you thought.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 03:27, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
I recently created an Eligibility requirements section for the 2004 Players Championship. Almost all of it is done however I do not understand criterion #4 ("Tournament Winners"). The 2004 media guide is not particularly helpful. The most detailed information I found was on page 17 of the media guide which lists the Priority Rankings. Criterion #33 refers to "Team Tournament Winners" but I suspect the Players Championship criterion refers to something different. I also went down to the Index of the media guide but found nothing.
I assume this category refers to golfers who won events in recent years that is not covered by criterion #1, the major championships criteria, or the WGC criteria. I suspect a lot of golfers that I have in criterion #12 actually qualified within the category. However, I have no evidence for this. Not sure if you could help me.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 01:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
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I recently published a post entitled "What wins to include in the Wins sections??" on the main talk page. I know I post a lot on the talk page but this one is pretty important as I'm trying to firm up what wins we should post in the Wins sections. We've had a lot of discussions about this over the years (as I list in the post) but it appears we have yet to come to consensus. If you could briefly respond that would be nice.
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Nigej: You'll have noticed that I've been messing about with snooker lists lately (I like lists). I'm currently looking at the List of snooker players by number of ranking titles and would like to change all the Flagicons to Flagathletes, but I notice that the template specifies using {{flagicon|}}{{sortname||}} for the players' names. Is there a reason for this? Flagicons are particularly annoying when the current flag is different to the relevant flag (look at Silvino Francisco in the list for an example). Also I see no reason why we need to use {{sortname}} since the table is not sortable. So I've copied the list into my sandbox and changed the flags etc. and it all seems to work OK. Please take a look at it in my sandbox and let me know if you think it's OK? Alan. AlH42 ( talk) 09:12, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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I recently posted about this on the main talk page but no one responded. I am trying to upload a photo for Paul Barjon on his Wiki page. Specifically, I am trying to upload his photo from his KF win at Huntsville. The link is here.
I saved it to my Desktop and tried to upload it from there but it didn't work. Do I have to save this photo in a WikiMedia library or something and then upload it from there? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Hi, 1927 World Snooker Championship is now a Featured Article. I just wanted to acknowledge all the great work you did there and on other snooker articles. Many thanks, BennyOnTheLoose ( talk) 19:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Did you give up on updating the Top 10 list? You where doing a great job. Tomrtn ( talk) 02:22, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi, is it possible to amend the season infoboxes so that they can show more than 4 awards? Maybe there is a reason for this perhaps. Thanks Jimmymci234 ( talk) 19:37, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
I published a page for Salem Country Club a week and a half ago. I usually get an Approval or Denial from an administrator within a day or two of the publication. But for some reason I haven't heard back with this one. I think the content is clearly notable (USGA champions, top 100 in Golf Digest) and the page is about as complete as it gets. But even if the page isn't worthy of publication I would like to get a firm decision as it has been quite some time. I am bringing this up with you because you are an administrator and are capable of making these decisions. Any response would be nice.
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He's back, using 178.167.191.7 IP address. He's been updating the 2023 Shanghai Masters but the stuff he's done so far has been good so I've left it alone. Worth keeping an eye on though. Alan ( talk) 06:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I recently did a lot of work on the 1978–79 Southern Africa Tour. Simon Hobday won the first two events, both in Rhodesia. He is noted in this link as "Rhodesia's top professional." Early in life, he also represented Zambia at the 1966 Eisenhower Trophy. However, his sporting nationality in his infobox exclusively says South Africa. If you could provide any clarification on this matter that would be helpful.
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Hi, I noticed recently that the Japan Challenge Tour article has become quite extensively long with the season tables all being on the one page. As I don’t think the tour carries enough notability to have individual articles for each season, I was considering moving each season table + money list to the relevant Japan Golf Tour season, similarly to what we have done with the Von Nida Tour. Would still keep the main Japan Challenge Tour article of course. Thoughts? Jimmymci234 ( talk) 09:08, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I thought the disambiguation had been taken out, not added in. Got confused. Alan ( talk) 13:59, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Nigej,
Thank you for recently publishing the New Zealand Golf Circuit page. I just noted the circuit status of three events in the tour column: New Zealand Open, New Zealand PGA Championship, and the Air New Zealand Shell Open. From our discussion earlier this year, we noted that the 1974 NZ Open and the 1977 Air NZ event were probably part of the Aussie Oom. However, I didn't include the "ANZ" designation yet as you know way more about this era than me. What are your thoughts about these events being co-sanctioned?
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Oogglywoogly ( talk) 22:43, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
@ Nigej, @ User: Wjemather: Thank you for your responses. I still don't know why there is confusion over whether this was a circuit or tour though. The only domestic source we have (which is clearly reliable) says it is a "circuit." Meanwhile, wjemather implies that McCormack is unreliable in this regard. I think it is clearly a circuit.
Do we have any updates on co-sanctioning? I would be very surprised if the top three events weren't co-sanctioned in the late '70s but, again, the evidence we have so far is weak.
Thanks,
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Hi Nige,
Could you please attempt to make this move on Ross' talk page? We tried to change it to just "Donald Ross" but, as you know, that didn't work. It seems beyond clear to me, as I discussed earlier on the main talk page, that "architect" (or some variation) is far more appropriate than "golfer." It seems other users agreed.
I would attempt to do this myself but, as you said on the main talk page, "this sort of 'move' can't be done by normal users." Please let me know your thoughts.
Sincerely,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 00:45, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
@ Nigej: You undid one of my edits in the 2023 UK Championship article, and that's absolutely fine. Your revert said "If sources use Rory Thor that's what should be using here. The fact that our article for him currently has a different name shouldn't affect that in any way. That's for another discussion.". But surely our main source is the WST and his player page has his name as "Thor Chuan Leong" and his nickname as "Rory Thor". This was one we missed when doing the nicknames template so I have added it in. We have used his full name in every other tournament this season, so why should this one be different? snooker.org sometimes uses his full name and sometimes his nickname - they are not consistent. The awful live scores website tends to use his nickname though. I think we should be consistent and use his full name without an unnecessary pipe which is why I made the edit (that you reverted) in the first place. Alan ( talk) 10:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Thank You for creating the EST articles! Part of the golfing history. Regards, EEJB ( talk) 07:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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Thanks for correcting my edit on the 2023–24 Q Tour page, I just realized that there are different Q Tours starting this season. Should we add all of them to the 2023–24 snooker season table then? It only has the UK/EU events at the moment. AmethystZhou ( talk) 20:34, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Nigej: Two issues. The first is regarding the ranking tournaments article. It is currently a bit short of references. I would like to add a "Ref." column but we would end up with over 400 references, mostly from snooker.org. Would this be WP:TOOMANYREFS? It would be a fair bit of work to dig them all out, but is it worth the effort?
The second issue is regarding the maximum breaks list. I have all the data for the referees (only two are unknown) and would be able to add footnotes for them in the same way that I did in the tables in the Triple Crown finals article. The only problem with doing this is that we would end up with more than 80 footnotes for referees. Again, is it worth doing? Alan ( talk) 22:07, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
On the original winners list for the Natal Open it stated that Cedric Amm won the 1964 tournament. I recently created a Winners table for the tournament and maintained the 1964 date however it should probably change. According to this primary source, his playoff with Bobby Verwey was scheduled for December 31, 1963. However, I could not find a primary source for the actual win confirming the date. (I do have this secondary source confirming Amm's win overall.) Not sure if you could find a primary source for the playoff.
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I recently created a comprehensive page for the Natal Open. A couple of champions have ambiguous status for their sporting nationality though. All over Wikipedia, we have Sid Brews representing South Africa. However, according to his page as late as 1934 he was still representing England at the England–Scotland Professional Match. Perhaps his flag should change.
In addition, I have noticed that Stewart Davies, winner of the 1962 event, usually has the SA flag next to his name. (For example, see Engadine Open.) However, according to this link he "emigrated to South Africa" in 1958 from Scotland. I think the flag of the mother country should be next to his name as this is what we normally do even after the golfer moves to a different country. Any advice would be helpful.
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@ Nigej: I edited the Snooker tournaments template because it was showing the "ranking points" Wikilink as redlined at the bottom of the List of snooker ranking tournaments page. I know that I did it correctly but it is still showing the old, redlined, version at the bottom of the list page. What's going on here? Alan ( talk) 13:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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I recently published a page for Geoffrey Sisk. I found almost everything I needed but some of his college wins are missing; I am missing four. (You can see them under the Amateur wins section.) If you can find anything please let me know.
In addition, one little messed up thing is background for the Major championships tables. I think I need to use source editing to correct that and am not too good with that. If you could correct that it would be great.
Also, I intend to do formatting tomorrow or the next day.
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Hi, I'll look into this more, but there seems to have been some fun and games in the run up to the 1950 Championship, and I was wondering if you knew any more about the dispute over the entry fee, and what happened with Jim Lees.
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As you've probably seen, I recently created a page for Vic Bennetts. He won a number of "cup" events during his amateur career. Some examples are here and here. I wasn't sure whether they are worthy of inclusion in the "Amateur Wins" section. I'll definitely keep them in the prose but I'm not sure if they meet our standards otherwise. They may be along the level of schoolboys championships. If you have the time, please briefly let me know your thoughts.
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I am almost done harassing you about Vic Bennetts. On your Australian Men's Interstate Teams Matches page, under the Appearances section, I noticed that you only have Bennetts playing in the matches from 1963 to 1966. However, I have links stating he participated in the 1962 and 1967 events. In 1962 article, it says he was selected for the "junior" team. Perhaps that is a different category? For the 1967 article, however, it says he was selected for the "senior" team - not sure what was going on with that but maybe he just selected to drop out later on? Any help would be much appreciated.
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One last thing about Bennetts. I have this link where he and his partner tied for the lead at the Australian Cup at the end of regulation. In the link they say the teams were going to play an 18 hole playoff the next week on December 22. I have scoured the newspaper search engines and found nothing. In addition, I checked the December 23 edition of the Sydney Morning Herald on Google News Archive and found no reportage of this event. (I also checked the Age and found nothing.) Not sure if you know anything of this alleged playoff.
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I have spent the past few days adding a lot of information to the Shennecossett Golf Course page. I have noticed that the newspapers often refer to "Shennecossett Country Club" in my research rather than "Shennecossett Golf Course." They are probably referring to the same place and are simply making a little mistake. However, I wanted to consult with you before making more edits.
My misgivings basically revolve around the Connecticut Open (1910s event). (As full disclosure, I created that page.) In the course of my research for Shennecossett I noticed no mention of this early century Connecticut Open. For example, on the club's website, despite a comprehensive history section, there is nothing. In addition, in my research for the 1910s Connecticut Open they usually refer to "Shennecossett Country Club." Basically, I'm not sure if Shennecossett Golf Course and Shennecossett Country Club are different clubs. Any help would be much appreciated.
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A Rhodesian golfer named Ted Webber won the South African Amateur Championship (golf) in 1977 and 1978. I suspect this is the same person as Teddy Webber who finished runner-up at the 1986 South African PGA Championship. If so we should keep the names consistent and probably the flags. Do you know if this is the same guy?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 04:07, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
For Mark McNulty's win at the 1980 Malaysian Open there is this blue-ish flag with a the Union Jack in the corner. This flag also exist on the 1980 Asia Golf Circuit page. This appears to be similar to Rhodesia's national flag from 1964-68 (see Flags of Rhodesia). But clearly the dates don't match. (Meanwhile, under Flags of Zimbabwe they note the 1960s Rhodesian flag on the page but that's it.) I think it should probably change.
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I have some questions about the sections we use in the text. Firstly, I have a question about the Early life section. Before I used to include very early life stuff like where the golfer was born, family info, and some very early golf anecdotes. But lately I've been enfolding all high school stuff under Early life rather than including it under the Amateur career section. I usually begin the Amateur career section when the subject goes to college (or around the age of 18 if he doesn't). What are your thoughts?
In addition, I am almost done with the page of Jerry Stolhand and have some questions about how I should organize the page. Stolhand had an unusual career arc where he turned professional, then had his amateur career status re-instated, but then turned professional a second time. I've heard of a number of golfers that have regained their amateur status but none where the golfer turned pro again. I created an independent section for each era of Stolhand's career but wasn't sure if that was the way it should be done. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Oogglywoogly ( talk) 03:25, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Hey,
You have mentioned in passing that Bobby Jones turned pro sometime in his career. On his infobox, however, it is not noted. I have scoured the internet for this information but all I have is this website which says he turned pro sometime in the early 1930s. Do you have any more evidence stating when he turned pro? I think this is important as all you hear is the media is "the lifelong amateur Bobby Jones," "the greatest golfer never to turn pro," etc. but never anything about his professional career.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 19:56, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Hey,
I have one more thing about Jerry Stolhand. I have included just about every potentially notable event he won in his Amateur wins and Professional wins sections. However, some may be dubious. The most potentially dubious ones I have listed below.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks,
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Hi, is there any way that you can amend the template for seasons from before 2013 as the Pro Golf Tour link does not work properly as it should be called EPD Tour from 2012 backwards. Thanks. Jimmymci234 ( talk) 19:46, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Last night I mentioned this on the main talk page but no one responded. In the Team Appearances section we usually create separate "Amateur" and "Professional" subheadings even if the golfer only participates in one category. However, if the golfer is only involved in one category then it seems extraneous to include a subheading. I think we should delete subheadings in cases like this.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 02:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Hey,
I am currently creating Rick Hartmann's page. He played on the European Tour for 10 years. I have found a lot of stuff on newspapers.com pertaining to his club pro career in the tri-state area after he retired. However, I have found very little pertaining to his career in Europe. I know he didn't have the most sterling career on the European Tour but I figured I would've found more. (He had seventeen top tens including a second and third place finish.)
I was wondering if you had access to British newspaper search engines (e.g. The Times). If so, could you briefly search for Hartmann on them and see if you could find anything? That will help me determine whether I should sign up for them.
Sincerely,
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Hey,
Thanks again for The Glasgow Herald articles earlier about Rick Hartmann. I think I used all of them. I'm pretty much done with his page but, as always, have a few lingering issues. They are listed below:
Any information would be very helpful.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 22:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
One last thing... On a tournament page it says that Hartmann finished runner-up at the 1989 Twee Jonge Gezellen Masters (i.e. South African Masters). However, on that page and in the Sunshine Tour sandbox of User:Wjemather there is no citation. In all of my research of Hartmann nothing popped up. I still included this information on Hartmann's page as it is one of his highest finishes on any big circuit. However, I would still prefer a citation. If you are able to find anything that would be very helpful. Oogglywoogly ( talk) 05:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
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Could we get this done? If their "yearpro" parameter is still populated we'll just have to deal with it; I personally don't think it's a big deal.
Thanks,
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When I started the Louisiana State Open page we talked about how there was some confusion between the state open and the PGA event. I have link here that says that the 1958 events were played concurrently. Jerry Stolhand won both events. My question is... should both of these wins be counted in his Professional wins section? I think it should definitely noted in the prose (as I have) but it seems redundant for the Wins section. What do you think?
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We just talked about this on the main talk page. Could we combine the "Current tour(s)" and "Former tour(s)" parameters and create a "Tour history" parameter with chronology? If merging is not possible, could we delete the existing parameters and create a new one? I know this will be a lot of work but I think it can be done. As I mentioned earlier, I will create chronologies for everyone in the pre-All Exempt Era (and probably do more...). Please let me know your thoughts.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 21:36, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
I posted about this on the main talk page but no one responded. Not sure if you could provided clarity on the New York State Open from the early 20th century. It appears there was a tournament with the same title around 100 years ago but probably unrelated to the modern event. Do you know if it was PGA Tour-level? If so, it probably deserves a page of its own.
Thanks,
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Hey,
I recently found primary sources for most individual Long Island PGA Championship events. Right now I'm having trouble creating a fluid table for all of the events though. The event started as a stroke play event, briefly changed to a match play event, and then returned to stroke play for another 35 years. In the 1970s, however, it returned to a match play format (which remains). Basically I want to create one smooth table for the tournament. However, I would like to include "To par" and "Margin of victory" columns which are unique to stroke play. Is there a way this can be done or will I have to create four separate tables?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:47, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi can I ask you a question. When you look at the above season does all the events finals sit on one line ?. When I view the page the finals are breaking into two lines etc. Why does it not sit all on one row like your view does please ?. 178.167.156.154 ( talk) 18:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
I found that toggle you were talking about bout it only works if the screen is at 90% right ?. If you put it to 100% the toggle or zoom option disappears am i right ?. Sure that is no good. Is there anway around this ?. Why did wikipedia mess around with there layout ?. can you view the toggle when your laptop is at 100% ? Thanks 178.167.156.154 ( talk) 19:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
How come it is there for you at 100% and it disappears for me when i go up to 100 from 90% ?. i always use 100% character size as well, Do you know why that is please ?. 178.167.156.154 ( talk) 20:28, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
I am afraid you owe an apology ?. You should now accuse people that you do not know ?. 178.167.182.17 ( talk) 15:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Not sure what happened there - I could have sworn it was the Challenge Cup article I was looking at! wjemather please leave a message... 08:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
I am busy creating a page for Mike Cahill. I have some questions though. According to this link he won the 1971 Victorian junior amateur. However, it's just a secondary source. Not sure if you could find a primary source.
Also, according to these links here and here Cahill played on the Victorian team for the junior interstate series in the early 1970s. However, I noticed on your Australian Men's Interstate Teams Matches page that he was not listed. Are these events different?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 17:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
In 1972, Cahill played in some international amateur event against South Africa but I don't know which one it is. (The link I originally had from The Age doesn't work anymore but here it is anyway.) I assumed it was the Commonwealth Tournament but I checked the Wiki site and the event didn't exist in 1972. (I would provide you a Google News Archive link from that date, October 6, 1972, but they don't have that day's page for The Age either.) Do you know what event it was?
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 05:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I have an article here that states that Cahill made the 1973 Australian Men's Interstate Teams Matches team. However, there is no evidence that he played. I think he turned pro late in the that year which is why he may have been left off the team. Not sure if you know anything...
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey,
I published the Halls Head Western Open last night. I had a couple reservations and posted these questions on the main talk page last night but no one responded. They are beneath:
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your note about Past Papers. It is such a wonderful source and was very helpful for me when I created the page for Ted Douglas. If they significantly expand beyond the mid-20th century could you let me know?
In addition, do you know why they primarily stop at 1955? Seems a bit odd.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 01:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
In 1973, Terry Kendall won this event held in Orewa, New Zealand. In the article there is no mention of it being on the OoM. Nonetheless, I wanted to pass it off to you in the off-chance that it was part the circuit that year. (Fwiw, in your sandbox you do not label it as such.)
Sincerely,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 02:36, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
This is small thing but I wanted to bring it up. For the "Amateur" and "Professional" subheadings in the Team Appearances section I was following your lead and using sub-heading #2. However, on the page of Mike Cahill the bot User:WikiCleanerBot has twice changed the size from subheading #2 to subheading #1. See a " diff" here.
Perhaps, we should start using subheading #1 from now on for the heading hierarchies in this section. What are your thoughts?
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:59, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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I've making a lot of edits to late 1990s Players Championships recently. Naomichi "Joe" Ozaki is referenced frequently however his name is not consistently spelled. Sometimes it's Naomichi Ozaki and sometimes it's Joe Ozaki. I noticed on most Wikipedia pages we just use his Japanese name. However, I noticed on the PGA Tour website that they use the name Joe Ozaki. I'm actually inclined to use his English-language name as this is an English-language website. However, I'm not sure what MOS says about this.
In addition, whatever we decide for his name should be applicable to his brothers Masashi "Jumbo" Ozaki and Tateo "Jet" Ozaki who have similarly styled names and other Asian golfers where this is relevant (e.g. Tsuneyuki "Tommy" Nakajima). Let me know your thoughts.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 21:24, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
I think this section should clearly be deleted on all of the individual tournament pages (e.g. 1974 Tournament Players Championship, 1999 Players Championship) for this event. The Players has almost always been at the same course and the location is already noted in the infobox. Not sure if you have any other thoughts though.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 22:35, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
I recently created an Eligibility requirements section for the 2000 Players Championship. Usually I just need the PGA Tour Media Guide and the PGA Tour website to determine who got in. However, criterion #7 is a bit different as it refers exclusively to the top 50 in the OWGR. I went through the Official World Golf Ranking archives and easily determined who made this requirement. However, I have had trouble uploading this archive as a citation. (The main option I have is this: file:///Users/lightelligence/Downloads/Week%2011%20Ranking%20-%20Sunday,%20March%2019,%202000%20(2).pdf.) OWGR only gives you Microsoft Word or PDF as options to upload a document. Not sure if you know how to convert this document into a website - any help would be much appreciated.
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Oogglywoogly ( talk) 03:00, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
FYI, I noticed this edit did not amend the flags to flagicons, so have corrected it. I'm not sure if there are any others. wjemather please leave a message... 14:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
This one is just a curiosity thing. I was wondering why a number of golfers who qualified for the 2000 Players Championship did not play. Criterion #9 in the Eligibility requirements refers to the top golfers that year who were otherwise ineligible. Below is the list of golfers that got in through this qualification standard and their money list rank at the time:
Shigeki Maruyama (#11), Matt Gogel (#21), Robert Allenby (#22), Russ Cochran (#41), Naomichi Ozaki (#93), Trevor Dodds (#135), Ronnie Black (#140), Eric Booker (#169)
The first four guys make sense. But then there are a loads of golfers between Cochran and Ozaki who could have played (e.g. Robin Freeman (golfer), Jay Williamson) but did not. And in between Ozaki and Eric Booker there are even more (e.g. Craig Spence (golfer), Grant Waite, Joe Ogilvie). Do you know why so many elected not to play? I would assume that a lot of the alternates just weren't at the TPC prepared to play but wondered what you thought.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 03:27, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
I recently created an Eligibility requirements section for the 2004 Players Championship. Almost all of it is done however I do not understand criterion #4 ("Tournament Winners"). The 2004 media guide is not particularly helpful. The most detailed information I found was on page 17 of the media guide which lists the Priority Rankings. Criterion #33 refers to "Team Tournament Winners" but I suspect the Players Championship criterion refers to something different. I also went down to the Index of the media guide but found nothing.
I assume this category refers to golfers who won events in recent years that is not covered by criterion #1, the major championships criteria, or the WGC criteria. I suspect a lot of golfers that I have in criterion #12 actually qualified within the category. However, I have no evidence for this. Not sure if you could help me.
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I recently published a post entitled "What wins to include in the Wins sections??" on the main talk page. I know I post a lot on the talk page but this one is pretty important as I'm trying to firm up what wins we should post in the Wins sections. We've had a lot of discussions about this over the years (as I list in the post) but it appears we have yet to come to consensus. If you could briefly respond that would be nice.
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Nigej: You'll have noticed that I've been messing about with snooker lists lately (I like lists). I'm currently looking at the List of snooker players by number of ranking titles and would like to change all the Flagicons to Flagathletes, but I notice that the template specifies using {{flagicon|}}{{sortname||}} for the players' names. Is there a reason for this? Flagicons are particularly annoying when the current flag is different to the relevant flag (look at Silvino Francisco in the list for an example). Also I see no reason why we need to use {{sortname}} since the table is not sortable. So I've copied the list into my sandbox and changed the flags etc. and it all seems to work OK. Please take a look at it in my sandbox and let me know if you think it's OK? Alan. AlH42 ( talk) 09:12, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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I recently posted about this on the main talk page but no one responded. I am trying to upload a photo for Paul Barjon on his Wiki page. Specifically, I am trying to upload his photo from his KF win at Huntsville. The link is here.
I saved it to my Desktop and tried to upload it from there but it didn't work. Do I have to save this photo in a WikiMedia library or something and then upload it from there? Any help would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
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Hi, 1927 World Snooker Championship is now a Featured Article. I just wanted to acknowledge all the great work you did there and on other snooker articles. Many thanks, BennyOnTheLoose ( talk) 19:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Did you give up on updating the Top 10 list? You where doing a great job. Tomrtn ( talk) 02:22, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi, is it possible to amend the season infoboxes so that they can show more than 4 awards? Maybe there is a reason for this perhaps. Thanks Jimmymci234 ( talk) 19:37, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
I published a page for Salem Country Club a week and a half ago. I usually get an Approval or Denial from an administrator within a day or two of the publication. But for some reason I haven't heard back with this one. I think the content is clearly notable (USGA champions, top 100 in Golf Digest) and the page is about as complete as it gets. But even if the page isn't worthy of publication I would like to get a firm decision as it has been quite some time. I am bringing this up with you because you are an administrator and are capable of making these decisions. Any response would be nice.
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He's back, using 178.167.191.7 IP address. He's been updating the 2023 Shanghai Masters but the stuff he's done so far has been good so I've left it alone. Worth keeping an eye on though. Alan ( talk) 06:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I recently did a lot of work on the 1978–79 Southern Africa Tour. Simon Hobday won the first two events, both in Rhodesia. He is noted in this link as "Rhodesia's top professional." Early in life, he also represented Zambia at the 1966 Eisenhower Trophy. However, his sporting nationality in his infobox exclusively says South Africa. If you could provide any clarification on this matter that would be helpful.
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Hi, I noticed recently that the Japan Challenge Tour article has become quite extensively long with the season tables all being on the one page. As I don’t think the tour carries enough notability to have individual articles for each season, I was considering moving each season table + money list to the relevant Japan Golf Tour season, similarly to what we have done with the Von Nida Tour. Would still keep the main Japan Challenge Tour article of course. Thoughts? Jimmymci234 ( talk) 09:08, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I thought the disambiguation had been taken out, not added in. Got confused. Alan ( talk) 13:59, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Nigej,
Thank you for recently publishing the New Zealand Golf Circuit page. I just noted the circuit status of three events in the tour column: New Zealand Open, New Zealand PGA Championship, and the Air New Zealand Shell Open. From our discussion earlier this year, we noted that the 1974 NZ Open and the 1977 Air NZ event were probably part of the Aussie Oom. However, I didn't include the "ANZ" designation yet as you know way more about this era than me. What are your thoughts about these events being co-sanctioned?
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Oogglywoogly ( talk) 22:43, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
@ Nigej, @ User: Wjemather: Thank you for your responses. I still don't know why there is confusion over whether this was a circuit or tour though. The only domestic source we have (which is clearly reliable) says it is a "circuit." Meanwhile, wjemather implies that McCormack is unreliable in this regard. I think it is clearly a circuit.
Do we have any updates on co-sanctioning? I would be very surprised if the top three events weren't co-sanctioned in the late '70s but, again, the evidence we have so far is weak.
Thanks,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 19:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Hi Nige,
Could you please attempt to make this move on Ross' talk page? We tried to change it to just "Donald Ross" but, as you know, that didn't work. It seems beyond clear to me, as I discussed earlier on the main talk page, that "architect" (or some variation) is far more appropriate than "golfer." It seems other users agreed.
I would attempt to do this myself but, as you said on the main talk page, "this sort of 'move' can't be done by normal users." Please let me know your thoughts.
Sincerely,
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 00:45, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
@ Nigej: You undid one of my edits in the 2023 UK Championship article, and that's absolutely fine. Your revert said "If sources use Rory Thor that's what should be using here. The fact that our article for him currently has a different name shouldn't affect that in any way. That's for another discussion.". But surely our main source is the WST and his player page has his name as "Thor Chuan Leong" and his nickname as "Rory Thor". This was one we missed when doing the nicknames template so I have added it in. We have used his full name in every other tournament this season, so why should this one be different? snooker.org sometimes uses his full name and sometimes his nickname - they are not consistent. The awful live scores website tends to use his nickname though. I think we should be consistent and use his full name without an unnecessary pipe which is why I made the edit (that you reverted) in the first place. Alan ( talk) 10:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Thank You for creating the EST articles! Part of the golfing history. Regards, EEJB ( talk) 07:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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Thanks for correcting my edit on the 2023–24 Q Tour page, I just realized that there are different Q Tours starting this season. Should we add all of them to the 2023–24 snooker season table then? It only has the UK/EU events at the moment. AmethystZhou ( talk) 20:34, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
@ Nigej: Two issues. The first is regarding the ranking tournaments article. It is currently a bit short of references. I would like to add a "Ref." column but we would end up with over 400 references, mostly from snooker.org. Would this be WP:TOOMANYREFS? It would be a fair bit of work to dig them all out, but is it worth the effort?
The second issue is regarding the maximum breaks list. I have all the data for the referees (only two are unknown) and would be able to add footnotes for them in the same way that I did in the tables in the Triple Crown finals article. The only problem with doing this is that we would end up with more than 80 footnotes for referees. Again, is it worth doing? Alan ( talk) 22:07, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
On the original winners list for the Natal Open it stated that Cedric Amm won the 1964 tournament. I recently created a Winners table for the tournament and maintained the 1964 date however it should probably change. According to this primary source, his playoff with Bobby Verwey was scheduled for December 31, 1963. However, I could not find a primary source for the actual win confirming the date. (I do have this secondary source confirming Amm's win overall.) Not sure if you could find a primary source for the playoff.
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Oogglywoogly ( talk) 08:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
I recently created a comprehensive page for the Natal Open. A couple of champions have ambiguous status for their sporting nationality though. All over Wikipedia, we have Sid Brews representing South Africa. However, according to his page as late as 1934 he was still representing England at the England–Scotland Professional Match. Perhaps his flag should change.
In addition, I have noticed that Stewart Davies, winner of the 1962 event, usually has the SA flag next to his name. (For example, see Engadine Open.) However, according to this link he "emigrated to South Africa" in 1958 from Scotland. I think the flag of the mother country should be next to his name as this is what we normally do even after the golfer moves to a different country. Any advice would be helpful.
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Oogglywoogly ( talk) 20:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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@ Nigej: I edited the Snooker tournaments template because it was showing the "ranking points" Wikilink as redlined at the bottom of the List of snooker ranking tournaments page. I know that I did it correctly but it is still showing the old, redlined, version at the bottom of the list page. What's going on here? Alan ( talk) 13:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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@ Nigej: Could you please keep an eye on the Championship League. DooksFoley147 is back, and I don't want to risk reverting more than three times. Just one so far. Alan ( talk) 14:49, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
I recently published a page for Geoffrey Sisk. I found almost everything I needed but some of his college wins are missing; I am missing four. (You can see them under the Amateur wins section.) If you can find anything please let me know.
In addition, one little messed up thing is background for the Major championships tables. I think I need to use source editing to correct that and am not too good with that. If you could correct that it would be great.
Also, I intend to do formatting tomorrow or the next day.
Oogglywoogly ( talk) 05:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I'll look into this more, but there seems to have been some fun and games in the run up to the 1950 Championship, and I was wondering if you knew any more about the dispute over the entry fee, and what happened with Jim Lees.
Regards, BennyOnTheLoose ( talk) 00:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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