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RD: Marla Adams

American television actress. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 05:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Korey Cunningham

–  Muboshgu ( talk) 16:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support there is no apparent issue. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 16:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Mostly Support I'd like to see a source realer than RLS Media citing anonymous "law enforcement sources" if I was found suddenly dead at home after not really being that much of a public figure in the first place, but others' WP:BDP mileage may vary. Saw a few relatively minor issues and fixed them. Short, but covers what you'd expect. InedibleHulk ( talk) 03:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Au Ho-nien

Chinese Lingnan School painter. gobonobo ^{+ c} 11:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support article is well-sourced. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 16:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Wait This biography should have an actual lead and sections first, not just an intro and a break redundantly named "Biography". InedibleHulk ( talk) 03:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

(Ready) Ariel Henry resignation

Wasn't posted when originally nominated upon deal's announcement; however, he's now formally resigned, and the TPC has taken power. As a result, it's technically an ITNR item, as it's a change in who administers the government. The Kip 22:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support Both articles seem to be well-sourced with no glaring omissions. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 22:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support ITNR as a change of head of state, and articles look fine. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support - We held off on this earlier, but this is the time. GenevieveDEon ( talk) 07:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support per above. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 09:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support Both articles are looking good.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 18:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support What they've said. InedibleHulk ( talk) 03:38, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support as change of head of state and thus ITN/R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang ( talk) 05:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Laurent Cantet

French film director. 240F:7A:6253:1:E9CC:EFAF:A606:B467 ( talk) 15:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose the article needs more inline citation and the filmography section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 09:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

(Closed) Harvey Weinstein conviction overturned

RD: Elmira Süleymanova

Nominator's comments: Azerbaijani chemist and civil servant. Article seems to be of decent quality. (Very first nomination of mine on ITN/C, so apologies for any mistakes.)  Bucket of sulfuric acid ( talk | contribs) 12:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment firstly welcome and congrats on 1st nomination, hope it's one of many to come! On the article: That failed verification tag in the lead needs to be fixed. Also career as an ombudsman needs to be integrated into the biography somehow (as a subsection maybe?) otherwise this just looks weird. Abcmaxx ( talk) 19:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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RD: Mike Pinder

The original member of The Moody Blues. 240F:7A:6253:1:78DB:5DD6:3664:C3F5 ( talk) 17:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment: Quite an extensive article, but alas vast swathes lacking any sources. Martinevans123 ( talk) 18:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Bob Cole

Legendary Canadian hockey commentator. Article is almost ready but needs a small amount of fixes. NorthernFalcon ( talk) 20:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose there are several lines, paragraphs and sections that do not have a single source. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 09:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Rene Saguisag

Philippine politician. Article appears to be in good shape from a cursory read-through. Curbon7 ( talk) 03:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

His religious faith appears to be unsourced. Traumnovelle ( talk) 03:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support article seems ready now. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 09:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Donald Payne Jr.

Not ready yet. Being worked on. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 16:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support article seems ready now. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 09:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support looks good now. MAINEiac4434 ( talk) 18:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) 2024 Solomon Islands general election

Staraction ( talk | contribs) 13:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support Good quality and well-updated. The Kip 18:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• There's usually a section after "Results" that deals with aftermath or reactions; that's as yet missing. Otherwise, this is looking good. Schwede 66 21:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Wait, there is not confirmation of who will be the Prime Minister yet. Yoblyblob ( Talk) :) 01:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support altblurb as it doesn't state who will be the PM before it is confirmed. We do not need to wait for a PM announcement to post the results of the general election as it's not uncommon in parliamentary systems for government formations to take an unpredictable amount of time (days, weeks, even months), especially when no one party achieves a simple majority. As for quality, the article is looking good. Content is sourced and it has a very decent amount of prose.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 21:12, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support article is fine. We don't need to wait for a PM announcement, the blurb can be edited if that is announced whilst this is still on the front page. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support altburb. That's an impressively detailed article and everything looks in order. Modest Genius ^talk 15:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Posted altblurb. Looks good to me. – robertsky ( talk) 15:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Gaza mass graves

Ainty Painty ( talk) 12:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose, covered by ongoing Israel–Hamas war. Angusgtw ( talk) 12:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose as part of ongoing, hasn't changed any aspect of what's been happening there to a great degree. -- Masem ( t) 12:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Oppose per above, as tragic as it is, we can't post every human rights violation happening there or ITN would be full of them. Also, what is "Gaedgza"? Is it a variant spelling of Gaza, a spelling error, or a more specific place? Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 12:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Striking my vote, the scale of the human rights violation makes it pretty unprecedented, and exceptions to Ongoing can and should be made. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 14:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose it is a part of the Israel/Hamas war LuxembourgBoy42 ( talk) 12:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose Covered by ongoing. Editor 5426387 ( talk) 13:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support - This human rights violation barely got any coverage by the war article, compared by how notable this is Abo Yemen ✉ 14:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose To little information at this time - we don’t know when these people were killed or the circumstances of their death. It’s possible that these were buried before Israel raided the compounds. In addition, covered by ongoing. BilledMammal ( talk) 14:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose/Wait more or less per BilledMammal. I'm not totally convinced this would be covered in Ongoing, but the article is missing a lot of context, particularly the "who" and the "why", which is really important when we're talking about what could be a war crime. I went "oppose/wait" because this is an item worth revisiting, but any investigation will probably take some time to complete. DarkSide830 ( talk) 15:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Wait per DarkSide - I'm on the fence whether this supersedes the ongoing item or not, but the fog of war is still in effect around it and the article feels woefully underdeveloped. The Kip 18:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Wait - I would like to see more clarity about what happened before posting. Blythwood ( talk) 19:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Wait. Two graves are yet to be exhumed, and details surrounding the burials are still being reported on. Jebiguess ( talk) 20:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support on notability, wait for the article to be developed as more reports come out. The scale of the human rights violations is horrific. I think we should have blurbed the Flour massacre, though I don't recall that one ever being nominated. The Nasser Hospital mass graves discovered a few days ago represent a much larger tragedy with at least 310+ bodies found. The Al-Shifa Hospital mass graves reported on today contained at least 381+ bodies. Either of those mass graves individually are worth a blurb, but both of them together are most certainly blurbworthy. Two other mass graves with at least another 30 and 50 bodies were also reported on today. We rightly blurbed the Bucha massacre which had varying estimates of roughly 200-500 bodies found in mass graves (UN estimate 73–178, Ukrainian estimate 457). But just what's been reported on today is at least 771+. That's just horrid, and more than enough to supersede ongoing. I have no doubt that more information will become available in the coming hours to days to bring the article up to shape.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Wait seems premature, mass graves are only a war crime if the deceased were executed Traumnovelle ( talk) 23:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose, covered by ongoing. BilboBeggins ( talk) 09:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose ongoing and ambiguous without any clear indication of lasting impact Kcmastrpc ( talk) 12:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose covered by ongoing. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 09:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Abdul Aleem Farooqui

Indian Islamic scholar. Khaatir ( talk) 07:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

•Support Fairly good article The AP ( talk) 09:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support - it's a good article and a notable person LuxembourgBoy42 ( talk) 12:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support there are no apparent issues with the article. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 15:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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RD: Nora Vagi Brash

Nora Vagi Brash CMG OBE was a playwright and author from Papau New Guinea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamaliel ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 2024 April 26 (UTC)

RD: Samuel Kummer

The organist at the Frauenkirche, Dresden, and a concert and recording organist with a gift for improvisation. - Article expanded and sourced. I forgot to write this summary and sign. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 10:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support article seems good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 09:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Frank Field, Baron Field of Birkenhead

Labour minister. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 09:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Conditional support (after sourcing issues are fixed); looks comprehensive! Staraction ( talk | contribs) 13:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Yes, it is comprehensive. But, unfortunately, at least five paragraphs currently have no citations. Martinevans123 ( talk) 14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Sources now added. Martinevans123 ( talk) 21:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose some paragraphs do not have any sourcing. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 15:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support The article is fine. Andrew🐉( talk) 19:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support Well sourced. Martinevans123 ( talk) 21:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Armenia–Azerbaijan border demarcation

Armenia and Azerbaijan are working together for a peace agreement, apparently! Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 09:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Weak support – Great news and a good-looking article. I think the update to the article may be a bit minimal for a blurb. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 10:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  I can write a bit more! Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 10:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Added a bit more about the details of the deal, including protests in Armenia in response to territories being handed over. Sadly, it is not yet clear where the first boundary markers were placed. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 11:31, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose an important start, but this doesn't read as any formalized treaty or equivalent, only they're starting to survey what the boundary likely should be which they will then be the basis of the peace agreement. -- Masem ( t) 12:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• I do think this could be ITN worthy, but what would go a long way to facilitating such a nom is a page on the demarcation itself, which should be feasible given the scope of this event. Not voting either way at this current moment though. DarkSide830 ( talk) 15:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Wait(?) per Darkside. ITN-worthy topic IMO, given the prior intensity and long-lasting nature of the conflict, but needs a better target article. The Kip 18:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  There's Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis but it's not in the best state right now. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 18:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose - On the basis that this is only one small step in a long staircase and there would be a valid claim to post numerous steps of that staircase. It's better to just wait until the border has been settled.

CheetasOnMission ( talk) 12:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support on notability, oppose on quality This is an important development, but the quality of each of the proposed target articles isn’t good enough. Blaylockjam10 ( talk) 21:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Helen Vendler

American literary critic. Needs some work. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 06:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose Bibliography section needs more sources. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 15:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• No it doesn't. A bibliography is a list of sources and, if that's a list of books, as in this case, it's trivially easy to verify by using the bibliographic information provided. You can also use the {{ authority control}} which is there to provide similar information from the indexes of great libraries. Andrew🐉( talk) 21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support There was one {{ citation needed}} so I took care of it. The subject is quite respectable and the article seems fine. Andrew🐉( talk) 21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• There is an orange {shortlead} tag. Please expand the intro. -- PFHLai ( talk) 09:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC) And the Bibliography section has not yet been fully sourced. Please add more REFs. -- PFHLai ( talk) 09:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Terry Carter

American actor and filmmaker. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 06:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose there is a major orange tag, Selected projects section needs to be rewritten with sources and Awards section needs sourcing. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 15:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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(Posted) RD: Joel Breman

NY Times obit published 22 April. Thriley ( talk) 14:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support the article is sufficiently sourced. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 15:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Posted. -- PFHLai ( talk) 09:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) Voyager 1 contact resumed

After rearranging code from a defective Voyager 1 chip, NASA is finally getting back data from the furthest probe in the Solar System! Honestly, it's a little miracle that they managed to save the half-century old probe. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 08:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support Significant, and a nice departure from our normal doom and gloom and elections. BilledMammal ( talk) 08:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support Just heard about this on radio news in Australia. An impressive feat. HiLo48 ( talk) 08:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support Notable, and the article is of sufficiently good quality for ITN. -- MtPenguinMonster ( talk) 08:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support Per above, and of particular interest due to the ingenuity of humankind. Kcmastrpc ( talk) 11:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support though I don't think the blurb is really sufficient. First off we don't need to say "NASA announces..." but thats minor, there's something to be said that they had been troubleshooting V1 for the last five months (over that great distance and with age of the computer) to resolve that. -- Masem ( t) 12:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Added altblurb, what do you think of it? Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 12:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I have simplified Alt1 down but that I think is more reasonable. -- Masem ( t) 12:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

      Great, thanks! Alt2 (my own attempt at simplifying) probably isn't needed then. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 12:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support - well-written and In the News. Great find! Staraction ( talk | contribs) 13:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support per above. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 15:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support - Interesting and great news! ✈ mike_gigs ^talk _contribs 15:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support - Always nice to see more science news pop up in ITN, especially in regards to one of the most ambitious space exploration programs in history. ArkHyena ( talk) 17:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support ALT1 per above. Science! The Kip 18:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Posted Step hen 19:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Post-posting support I thought we were witnessing the end of one of the greatest spacecrafts to ever leave this planet. Very good that it's gonna last a little longer atleast. TwistedAxe [contact] 22:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment, I don't get why this is so important, but I see I am in the minority. But the image... is it possible to have one showing it against the black background of space? White is jarring. Abductive ( reasoning) 23:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  

  Probably File:Voyager, 1977-Present (8981696768).jpg. Aaron Liu ( talk) 02:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  It's not white. It's a transparent background Aydoh8 ( talk | contribs) 02:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Post-posting oppose. This and the recent Ichthyotitan description just don't seem important enough to slap on the front page. I get that covering deaths and genocides and election cycles is exhausting, but we shouldn't be straining to find 'positive' stuff to cover. wound theology ◈ 04:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Cringe. This is far more encyclopedic than those death and protest news. This is what ITN should be about. 113.160.44.130 ( talk) 13:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Deaths and disasters and election cycles have direct consequences for people. That is why they are immediately newsworthy. Voyager 1 regaining contact and the description of a new species are very minor in comparison. I think that Wikipedia editors are biased here: our interests will lead us to give undue weight to events in the sciences. wound theology ◈ 23:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  The new ancient species thing does seem somewhat arbitrary and inconsequential. Now, if that lifeform were intelligent, different circumstances. However, Voyager 1 resuming communications means we get a couple more years worth of data about the universe we are temporarily a part of that we simply have no other way of obtaining, that does seem consequential. Kcmastrpc ( talk) 23:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Each time the US Supreme Court went from a 5-4 to a 4-4 to a 4-5 to a 3-6 left-right split had somewhat big consequences especially collectively some of which we've seen already and few non-Americans on ITN gave a shit. Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 06:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  This is WP:WHATABOUTISM, I personally think that most of Wikipedia exhibits a strong American bias, including coverage of Voyager 1 -- let's not forget the political and cultural context of the Space Race. American vanity projects, big woop. That's not really relevant here though; the nominator here explicitly mentioned wanting a counterpoint to the negativity in the news. Unfortunately, life sucks and then you die. It's a lot easier to do evil than to do good...at least, it's a lot easier to do evil things that are notable. wound theology ◈ 06:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC) I misread the tone of your argument here. wound theology ◈ 06:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  The Voyager 1 spacecraft wasn't really the Space Race. While it's true it was 1964 when science realized the planets briefly spiral

  

once per 175 yrs allowing a sane rocket to kick a small probe to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and the stars* with enormous travel time savings but this wasn't really on White House radar till 1970. And was cancelled '71 ("resurrected" '72) and V1 would've seen Uranus+Neptune if the other V broke so the late 1970s was the only time it could gravitationally slingshot out the spiral.

*that'd take tens of millennia - it's only 4x farther than Pluto so far which is barely enough to discover some of the stuff beyond the solar-stellar wind fighting area before it dies (like interstellar sound). Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 09:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Man, these photos are really fucking up this thread. wound theology ◈ 10:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

They largest is a third a full nomination width on my oldest phone (very low resolution) with default WP image settings (220px). Are they bigger for you? Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 16:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• [T]he nominator here explicitly mentioned wanting a counterpoint to the negativity in the news. No, I did not, and that was not the reason for this nomination. I was just pleasantly surprised that Voyager 1 was unexpectedly saved, and figured out it deserved attention. I only mentioned offsetting the negativity on the Ichthyotitan nomination, but that was as a possible consequence of the nomination rather than as a reason for it. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 06:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here -- admittedly I was too lazy to track down the Icthyotitan nom. Regardless, I struck my comment anyway. wound theology ◈ 07:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  I too was surprised it had so much support. It's the furthest human object (besides turning on outdoor lights and things like that) from 1998 to forever unless something faster is launched in the future (which has never been a serious proposal) and its power source is estimated to deplete to the point of communication and data gathering ability loss around 2025. Is that enough? I dunno, I'm not you or consensus. Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 18:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Post-posting support A lot of folk may expect ITN to be basically a ticker purely for big geopolitical news, but they'd miss the point that Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, isn't focused on just that, but on things of encyclopedic importance. This means covering a lot of science news, which is something that universally most mainstream news sources relegate to be buried far below the front-page headlines. And this is definitely one of those stories that, while it gets relegated on geopolitical outlets like NYT or BBC, is certainly a major news story. This reflects how Wikipedia has a different focus than sites like those. Nottheking ( talk) 04:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Wikipedia, despite being an encyclopedia, is not on a mission to prove that science news is more important or even as important as geopolitical happenings. Straining to find things that are positive to offset the dirge of negative stories is giving undue weight to relatively minor things -- geopolitics concern real human lives, which is why they are given so much attention in mainstream sources (and Wikipedia is biased towards mainstream sources.) Encyclopedias cover the entire realm of human knowledge -- not just geopolitics, but also not just geopolitics and science news. Wikipedia editors are more similar than we are different -- let's be honest here, we're all a bunch of nerds and of course new species descriptions and astronomical events are going to stand out to us. wound theology ◈ 06:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  The US election ongoing got a pile of opposes with little to no sympathy. Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 06:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  The US is not the only country in the world, and the actual election is in half a year. I don't see how these are really comparable at all. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 06:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  It's not the only country in the world, but it is one of the most populous, and one of the most influential geopolitically. wound theology ◈ 06:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  We're an encyclopedia, so we should be trying to weigh all fields of knowledge equally - space probe news is equally as important as anthropology which is equally as important as US politics which is equally as important as what's happening in Gaza - because these are all areas of knowledge that get significant coverage that we can document as a reference work. We're not a newspaper which would weight politics and wars higher than space news or discovery of ancient bones. We also work to fight the systematic bias that occurs from 24/7 media channels. Masem ( t) 16:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Pull how is does this possibly rise to blurb-level significance? 'Spacecraft continues operating' is not of ITN importance. If NASA had declared Voyager 1 lost, that would be worth posting as the end of its mission. Merely recovering from a glitch is not enough for me. Such temporary setbacks are common (TESS and Hubble have both had recent ones) and this one only took so long to resolve because of the great distance (hence slow communications) with Voyager. None of the !votes above convince me that this is anything more than an ephemeral hiccup in the mission. I'm generally in favour of posting scientific news but this is minor stuff. Modest Genius ^talk 10:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Pull While I don't feel particularly strongly about it, I have to agree with Modest Genius. Voyager was never declared lost and the spacecraft continues to operate after an interruption. Also, the transparent image on the front page doesn't look very appealing. Johndavies837 ( talk) 10:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Pull - I don't really enjoy pulling blurbs. But the current one is misleading and implies that the spacecraft had become lost or defunct, and this is not the case. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -( talk) 13:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  I had suggested the alt blurb, that is what makes the story (and doesn't make it seem like V1 was lost) - NASA engineers fixed Voyager 1's systems which is a massive engineering achievement given the age and limited capability of the equipment, distance it is away and thus the time for communications. Masem ( t) 16:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) RD: Brian Tobin (tennis)

President of the International Tennis Federation. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 05:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support the article meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 15:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Posted. -- PFHLai ( talk) 09:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) RD: Cecil Williams

Nominator's comments: American pastor and civil rights activist.  Funcrunch ( talk) 02:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Weak Support. Williams' death has received very little coverage outside San Francisco; nevertheless he was a pretty relevant figure in the civil rights movement and I could see a case being made for this RD. Support I have just been informed that the above information is irrelevant to this discussion. Thank you. In that case, everything else looks good to me. Poxy4 ( talk) 14:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Poxy4 Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. The only thing to discuss is if the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 14:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support - article meets quality standards ✈ mike_gigs ^talk _contribs 16:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support - reason is the same as above, it meets quality standards LuxembourgBoy42 ( talk) 21:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose Lead needs at least a sentence or two more on his notability.— Bagumba ( talk) 07:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Bagumba: expanded as well as I could from article prose. Abcmaxx ( talk) 09:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Posted— Bagumba ( talk) 09:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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RD: Jerome Rothenberg

This poet, anthologist, translator and interpreter has been a fundamental American literary voice for 60+ years. His book Technicians of the Sacred is a classic. But this article’s RD status is not ready, and has been tagged since 2012. Apparently the SOP is to list this under date of death, even if it takes a few days for a credible source to verify death.Note: this is listed under April 23 b/c that’s the earliest, credibly sourced date available in English confirming Rothenberg’s death (tho a source in Spanish was dated April 22, and social media reported it hours after his passing on April 21). Trauma Novitiate ( talk) 04:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Quite a few footnote-free paragraphs. Please add more REFs. -- PFHLai ( talk) 10:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Sri Lankan Fox Hill Supercross race crash

It has been the news headline due to the significance of the return of the said motorsport event in Sri Lanka after five years. Abishe ( talk) 10:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose - article is fresh, and still needs work in terms of wikilinking, polishing etc. - Bucket of sulfuric acid ( talk | contribs) 10:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Weak Oppose - this is worthy, however, the page still has a long way to go for polishing and wiki linking before it should be added LuxembourgBoy42 ( talk) 21:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support - well cited and seems notable Abo Yemen ✉ 14:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose – I've posted my concerns about WP:NPOV on the article's talk page. Schwede 66 21:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Michael Cuscuna

Fairly short Mach61 02:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose article do not have {{ Infobox person}} and the awards section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 04:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ PrinceofPunjab Both of those issues have been resolved Mach61 13:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Weak support looks just about long enough to post, and everything looks sourced. Note that having an infobox is not an article or ITN requirement, as per MOS:INFOBOXUSE. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support - article is short but seems just long enough to post ✈ mike_gigs ^talk _contribs 17:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• The article is short on biographical detail. The WRTI source has a lot of content that could make this a much better bio. Schwede 66 21:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

(Posted) RD: Terry A. Anderson

Held hostage in Lebanon. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 22:10, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support per nom. Yoblyblob ( Talk) :) 01:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support per nomination. Daniel Quinlan ( talk) 03:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Oppose due to a large amount of unsourced text in the hostage in Lebanon section. And just a reminder that notability does not matter for RD's. Gödel2200 ( talk) 14:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  As WP:ITNQUALITY notes, Articles should be well referenced; one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article, but any contentious statements must have a source, and having entire sections without any sources is unacceptable. Overall the article is well referenced. And I added several references to address one of them. Daniel Quinlan ( talk) 17:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support - I removed the cn-tagged paragraph after questioning its relevance to Anderson himself, so should be good to go now ✈ mike_gigs ^talk _contribs 17:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• There are a few {cn} tags in the Post-captivity life section. Please add more REFs. -- PFHLai ( talk) 23:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Can you please take a look now. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 09:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Thanks for the new footnotes! -- PFHLai ( talk) 18:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Posted. -- PFHLai ( talk) 18:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Afghanistan–Pakistan floods

Ainty Painty ( talk) 03:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Support in principal but the article needs a little bit of expansion. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 06:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge This is said to be the same weather system which caused the Gulf floods that we're blurbing. See Talk:2024_Persian_Gulf_floods#Merge_proposal. As an encyclopedia, we should be explaining the meteorology -- which may be a mesoscale convective system -- rather than just counting the cost. Andrew🐉( talk) 07:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge per Andrew, with a combined blurb explaining the weather system. Chaotıċ Enby ( talk · contribs) 09:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per Andrew and a combined blurb. The AP ( talk) 12:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment With articles (some of which I think we've blurbed previously) like 2023 Pakistan floods, 2023 Afghanistan floods, 2022 Pakistan floods, 2022 Afghanistan floods, 2021 Afghan floods, etc. it's hard to see how this is even notable, let alone blurb-worthy. Nfitz ( talk) 19:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Its only notable because it is a continuation of the rain and flooding that hit the Middle East, hence while that one system should be a single article and covered that way. Regular seasonal flooding of that area that comes from normal storm patterns may be appropriate for ongoing once that season starts, but we shouldn't be posting regular annual weather aspects otherwise. Masem ( t) 19:17, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge - As per @ Andrew Davidson it should be merged into the existing 2024 Persian Gulf floods article.

CheetasOnMission ( talk) 12:12, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose there's an ongoing merge discussion. If merged, then blurb should be updated, and if not merged, then this event on its own isn't ITN worthy (and the article is questionably notable on its own anyway). Joseph 2302 ( talk) 10:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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(Posted) RD: Andrew Davis (conductor)

Famous conductor Andrew🐉( talk) 12:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Andrew, thank you for nominating. Next time, please under the day of death, and yes for updated only when done (not yet).There's a lot about contracts, and little music, and refs missing for the recordings, also there must be more, no? He held chief positions in three continents! -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Now everything mentioned also has a source. I can't fix the note on the article talk to here, sorry. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support Article looks good. One cn tag, but that shouldn't keep this from getting posted. -- TDKR Chicago 101 ( talk) 16:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  Now sourced. Martinevans123 ( talk) 17:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support Looks good. Well sourced. Martinevans123 ( talk) 17:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Posted to RD. Spencer ^{T• C} 19:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Lourdes Portillo

Mexican filmmaker and activist. 240F:7A:6253:1:DBD:7A2C:458C:FE69 ( talk) 07:10, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose Needs some more citation, filmography is unsourced, there's a lot of unsourced statement in the career section. Scientia potentia est, Monarch OfTerror 07:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Howie Schwab

240F:7A:6253:1:DBD:7A2C:458C:FE69 ( talk) 07:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose We don't post stubs. Schwede 66 00:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• With merely 208 words of prose, this stubby wikibio needs an expansion to qualify. -- PFHLai ( talk) 03:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• It's at 1960 B (323 words).— Bagumba ( talk) 07:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• It's on the short side but ok. Once the two citation needed tags are gone, I'd say it's good enough to post. Schwede 66 21:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support This has enough details & references now. Blaylockjam10 ( talk) 08:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Roman Gabriel

Needs a lot of work. Natg 19 ( talk) 01:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

@ BeanieFan11: can you work on this? Natg 19 ( talk) 01:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

You know, I was just thinking about doing that. I probably should be able to do it soon. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 02:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Actually, I've turned out to be busier than expected and I haven't had a chance to work on this. I don't think I'll be able to with the NFL Draft going on today and tomorrow. Sorry. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 19:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Gediminas Kirkilas

Needs some work. Natg 19 ( talk) 01:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose the article needs so much expansion. There are just 3 lines covering his premiership. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 06:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RD: Kunwar Sarvesh Kumar Singh

Needs some work. Natg 19 ( talk) 01:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Oppose the article needs more sourcing. PrinceofPunjab ^TALK 06:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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