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Thank you for going over all the references in the Alliance of Women Directors article. From the corrections you made I think I've picked up these tips:
However, I have a few questions about some of your edits, and I would appreciate if you could answer them, or point me to where I can find the answers:
Thanks again for cleaning up after me! Carl Henderson ( talk) 19:01, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing the errors I made regarding the # of Indian students and the source for the kindergarten opening in 2004. I realized that it was Saito's article that says the Kindergarten opened in 2004, so I set Saito as the citation for that.
Re: "Day kindergarten" there are people who use "day school" as opposed to boarding school. However I realize it was good to remove "day" from "day kindergarten" since the Little Angels school never took boarding students. WhisperToMe ( talk) 23:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi there Marchjuly, just to let you know as a courtesy, that I have uploaded another version of the image to include the changed rationale which is not under the fair use policy. As these images were originally uploaded en-masse, last decade, the fair use claim (I think they were all uploaded with that rationale), was not relevant for this pic anyway as the copyright had expired. Plus it needed a separate rationale for each use as you have pointed out. Roganjosh3 ( talk) 05:03, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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The Civility Barnstar |
Thank you! I was really impressed by the constructive and non-acrimonious tone and contributions from everyone involved in the recent AFD discussion on the Alliance of Women Directors article. What could have been—with the wrong editors involved—a very nasty debate, turned into a very positive discussion. Even editors who strongly felt that the article should be deleted worked hard to find sources and fix problems with it. This is the kind of positive collaboration people don't hear a lot about in Wikipedia-land and I'd like to recognize it. Carl Henderson ( talk) 19:47, 3 April 2015 (UTC) |
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I removed an non-free image from this article per WP:NFCCE because it did not have the specific, separate non-free use rationale required by WP:NFCC#10c. If this was a mistake, then it was made in good faith and based upon my understanding of WP:NFCCP. However. this has led to me being accused of trying to wreck an article, vandalism, bullying, making things personal, ranting, acting out of malice or for revenge, being dissmissive, trolling, being manipulative, arrogance, being destructive and power hungry, ruining someone's Easter holiday, worsening someone's health condition, etc., etc. as well as seeing my contribution history being misrepresentated and having my personal life commented upon by another editor at WP:NFCR#File:Angie Watts.jpg and Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2015 April 4#File:Arms-wimbledon1.jpg. I have done my best to remain civil and explain things in an attempt to keep the discussion focused on policy, but I do admit that I am not totally without blame. I did, however, sincerely try to make amends and diffuse the situation, but it seems to have only made things worse and led to more personal attacks. I removed some files that shouldn't have been added to articles, but I did not delete them or nominate them for deletion as is being claimed. I also did not knowingly "trick" (my word) this other editor into uploading a file whose licensing would later be scrutinized just to create more problems for them. I realize I have the option of bringing this to WP:ANI, but would like to find another solution if possible. This other editor has made it clear that they do not wish to interact with me, so I am hoping to find an administrator who is willing to look at things impartially and intervene if necessary. I understand WP:BOOMERANG and accept that said adminsitrator may find it necessary to warn or even block me, but whatever mistake I may have made was, once again, made in good faith and is certainly not worthy of the response I have gotten in return. Thank you in advance. - Marchjuly ( talk) 12:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
All that the image was needed was a specific rationale for that particular use since it was being licensed as non-freein User talk:Marchjuly#Wimbledon Council Arms, it was what I believed at the time and what I would have advised if asked before you uploaded the file. This may turn out to be incorrect, the discussion of the file's licensing is still ongoing. All I said about your choice of licensing for the file was that Wikipedia takes copyright protection quite seriously and the licesning was only being discussed to determine if the image is "free" or not. I did not "condemn" or "attack" you for possibly uploading a file with the wrong licesing. Yet, you seem to be angry at me and are blaming me because I "accepted" the image and didn't check it more carefully or know enough about coat-of-arms copyright issues to point out that imagine might still be copyrighted after you uploaded it and added it to the article. You also seem to be claiming that I am not here to help build an encyclopedia, but am a vandal only insterested in pursing my own personal agenda, which is something that couldn't further from the truth. You are continuing to use Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2015 April 4#File:Arms-wimbledon1.jpg as a forum to comment about me and my qualifications (or lack thereof) to participate in Wikipedia, even though that page is specifically for discussing potential licensing issues for possibly unfree files. Pages such as that are primarily for discussing content not the contributor. When discussions are heated things sometimes get said out or irritation or anger. That is understandable, but you continue to use the page to make comments about me and not about the file's licensing. You have a user talk page. If you which to discuss my behaviour then do it there or do it on my talk page here. If you feel my behavior was so wrong that it should be sanctioned, then open a case at WP:ANI.
Under /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Retiring "Users may choose to retire after specific unpleasant experiences" I have decided to retire from Wikipedia and have placed the appropriate tag on my user page. Roganjosh3 ( talk) 23:59, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Marchjuly. Thanks for your attempts to find a new source for the file. I'm quite happy for it to be deleted to be honest, as the company has changed name and the logo is not particularly important in terms of identification. I appreciate your efforts though. Cloudbound ( talk) 20:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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The Purple Barnstar | |
It looks like it has been a rough couple of days for you, but you seem to have kept your cool - don't let the tough times get you down! ScrapIronIV ( talk) 00:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC) |
I only blanked my talk page for cosemetic reason, i keep a archive of the page on my computer so need be any past messages need to be seen, i have a record. MattVoorhees15 ( talk) 21:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Ah you're right- my mistake, thank you for catching that for me, I must've mistook it for my own talk page. Thanks! MattVoorhees15 ( talk) 22:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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Teahouse Barnstar |
Accurate, helpful answers are our stock in trade. Thank you so much for helping to provide them. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:29, 18 April 2015 (UTC) |
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Thank you for going over all the references in the Alliance of Women Directors article. From the corrections you made I think I've picked up these tips:
However, I have a few questions about some of your edits, and I would appreciate if you could answer them, or point me to where I can find the answers:
Thanks again for cleaning up after me! Carl Henderson ( talk) 19:01, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing the errors I made regarding the # of Indian students and the source for the kindergarten opening in 2004. I realized that it was Saito's article that says the Kindergarten opened in 2004, so I set Saito as the citation for that.
Re: "Day kindergarten" there are people who use "day school" as opposed to boarding school. However I realize it was good to remove "day" from "day kindergarten" since the Little Angels school never took boarding students. WhisperToMe ( talk) 23:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi there Marchjuly, just to let you know as a courtesy, that I have uploaded another version of the image to include the changed rationale which is not under the fair use policy. As these images were originally uploaded en-masse, last decade, the fair use claim (I think they were all uploaded with that rationale), was not relevant for this pic anyway as the copyright had expired. Plus it needed a separate rationale for each use as you have pointed out. Roganjosh3 ( talk) 05:03, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
![]() |
The Civility Barnstar |
Thank you! I was really impressed by the constructive and non-acrimonious tone and contributions from everyone involved in the recent AFD discussion on the Alliance of Women Directors article. What could have been—with the wrong editors involved—a very nasty debate, turned into a very positive discussion. Even editors who strongly felt that the article should be deleted worked hard to find sources and fix problems with it. This is the kind of positive collaboration people don't hear a lot about in Wikipedia-land and I'd like to recognize it. Carl Henderson ( talk) 19:47, 3 April 2015 (UTC) |
![]() | This request for help from administrators has been answered. If you need more help or have additional questions, please reapply the {{admin help}} template, or contact the responding user(s) directly on their own user talk page. |
I removed an non-free image from this article per WP:NFCCE because it did not have the specific, separate non-free use rationale required by WP:NFCC#10c. If this was a mistake, then it was made in good faith and based upon my understanding of WP:NFCCP. However. this has led to me being accused of trying to wreck an article, vandalism, bullying, making things personal, ranting, acting out of malice or for revenge, being dissmissive, trolling, being manipulative, arrogance, being destructive and power hungry, ruining someone's Easter holiday, worsening someone's health condition, etc., etc. as well as seeing my contribution history being misrepresentated and having my personal life commented upon by another editor at WP:NFCR#File:Angie Watts.jpg and Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2015 April 4#File:Arms-wimbledon1.jpg. I have done my best to remain civil and explain things in an attempt to keep the discussion focused on policy, but I do admit that I am not totally without blame. I did, however, sincerely try to make amends and diffuse the situation, but it seems to have only made things worse and led to more personal attacks. I removed some files that shouldn't have been added to articles, but I did not delete them or nominate them for deletion as is being claimed. I also did not knowingly "trick" (my word) this other editor into uploading a file whose licensing would later be scrutinized just to create more problems for them. I realize I have the option of bringing this to WP:ANI, but would like to find another solution if possible. This other editor has made it clear that they do not wish to interact with me, so I am hoping to find an administrator who is willing to look at things impartially and intervene if necessary. I understand WP:BOOMERANG and accept that said adminsitrator may find it necessary to warn or even block me, but whatever mistake I may have made was, once again, made in good faith and is certainly not worthy of the response I have gotten in return. Thank you in advance. - Marchjuly ( talk) 12:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
All that the image was needed was a specific rationale for that particular use since it was being licensed as non-freein User talk:Marchjuly#Wimbledon Council Arms, it was what I believed at the time and what I would have advised if asked before you uploaded the file. This may turn out to be incorrect, the discussion of the file's licensing is still ongoing. All I said about your choice of licensing for the file was that Wikipedia takes copyright protection quite seriously and the licesning was only being discussed to determine if the image is "free" or not. I did not "condemn" or "attack" you for possibly uploading a file with the wrong licesing. Yet, you seem to be angry at me and are blaming me because I "accepted" the image and didn't check it more carefully or know enough about coat-of-arms copyright issues to point out that imagine might still be copyrighted after you uploaded it and added it to the article. You also seem to be claiming that I am not here to help build an encyclopedia, but am a vandal only insterested in pursing my own personal agenda, which is something that couldn't further from the truth. You are continuing to use Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2015 April 4#File:Arms-wimbledon1.jpg as a forum to comment about me and my qualifications (or lack thereof) to participate in Wikipedia, even though that page is specifically for discussing potential licensing issues for possibly unfree files. Pages such as that are primarily for discussing content not the contributor. When discussions are heated things sometimes get said out or irritation or anger. That is understandable, but you continue to use the page to make comments about me and not about the file's licensing. You have a user talk page. If you which to discuss my behaviour then do it there or do it on my talk page here. If you feel my behavior was so wrong that it should be sanctioned, then open a case at WP:ANI.
Under /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Retiring "Users may choose to retire after specific unpleasant experiences" I have decided to retire from Wikipedia and have placed the appropriate tag on my user page. Roganjosh3 ( talk) 23:59, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Marchjuly. Thanks for your attempts to find a new source for the file. I'm quite happy for it to be deleted to be honest, as the company has changed name and the logo is not particularly important in terms of identification. I appreciate your efforts though. Cloudbound ( talk) 20:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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The Purple Barnstar | |
It looks like it has been a rough couple of days for you, but you seem to have kept your cool - don't let the tough times get you down! ScrapIronIV ( talk) 00:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC) |
I only blanked my talk page for cosemetic reason, i keep a archive of the page on my computer so need be any past messages need to be seen, i have a record. MattVoorhees15 ( talk) 21:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Ah you're right- my mistake, thank you for catching that for me, I must've mistook it for my own talk page. Thanks! MattVoorhees15 ( talk) 22:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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Teahouse Barnstar |
Accurate, helpful answers are our stock in trade. Thank you so much for helping to provide them. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:29, 18 April 2015 (UTC) |