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Two other users, Bormalagurski and HolyRomanEmperor, have also been involved in the dispute but are currently blocked. I have not informed them of this mediation as they will be unable to participate in it. -- ChrisO 09:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Extensive discussion on article talk page since May 2006
Brief background: all of our reputable published sources (books, encyclopedias, media reports etc) describe Kosovo as a province of Serbia under United Nations administration. This is reflected in the article's introduction. User:Ferick believes that this is inaccurate and instead wishes the article to say that Kosovo "is located in the south-east Europe" without reference to Serbia. He has repeatedly deleted any mention of Kosovo as part of Serbia from the article's intro. This has resulted in a long-running edit war between Ferick and a large number of other editors, which has resulted in the article being protected for extended periods.
The issue has been discussed extensively in the article talk page but we have seem to have reached an impasse. Ferick has expressed an unwillingness to discuss sources or abide by WP:NPOV, which has made it difficult to find any common ground. His position is supported by User:Ilir pz but otherwise the majority of editors (most of whom are not Serbs, by the way) have already reached a consensus on the existing introduction.
I don't particularly expect this mediation to get anywhere, given Ferick's apparent rejection of WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:CITE and WP:RS. However, for the sake of ticking the box in the dispute resolution procedure I would like the Mediation Committee to consider the matter. -- ChrisO 09:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
{Archived here to remove from unnecessary subpage. Essjay ( Talk • Connect) 13:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC))
I am seeking mediation assistance with regards a dispute concerning my attempt to tidy the wiki by removal of redlinks as per What not to link and Administrator Ambi’s dogmatic refusal to allow any adjustments along these lines. I have attempted to discuss this matter with her – and that discussion has gotten heated on both sides (see combined talk pages). In particular I am concerned by long term redlinks and on that point I am more than happy to concede that some of my removals may be too early for all wikipedians but I do not concede that redlinks should be allowed to stand ad infinitum. For a single example (although the dispute is not about this page per se) this article St. Nicholas' Collegiate Church which has not been added to or adjusted since April 5, 2005 is in Ambi’s view (as posted on her user page) to be quite good. I would not be allowed to remove the redlinks on that page that have been there for almost a year and which make the article look clumsy and feel unprofessional. If I did I would be threatened that my alterations are close to vandalism and then would be threatened with blocking if such changes continue. Indeed Ambi has even gone so far as to revert redlinks that I personally created in my own major articles. The continuum of our conflict is probably that I consider that I am following both the consensus view/s and the encyclopedic view that redlinks are generally clumsy and should be discouraged – and if not discouraged totally able to be removed when a reasonable amount of time has passed. I also have a concern with Ambi’s method of administrator support but that may be her way of doing things and beyond mediation. Whilst it may be impossible to clear up this matter perfectly there must be a way to gain middle ground on this and not be threatened on every edit. Please can you help? VirtualSteve 12:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Withdrawn - Ambi refuses to respond - no mediation possible. VirtualSteve 20:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
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The neutrality of using the word "liberate" and its derivative in the context of military operations, specifically in the context of the USSR's taking of Ukraine, Baltic states, Poland etc. from Germany in WWII. The issue is vied differently by the parties:
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My edits - admittedly badly summarized in the edit's comment - are as follows:
In Spahbod's last talk message [59] he noted "You changed the whole article from a Parsi ethnicity article to a minor religious minority of India with Indi ethnicity".
Response:
Presuming that this is the justification for his revert, this opinion that I "changed" anything is not correct since the substance of the previous article has been completely incorporated in my edits.
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Maakhter 23:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
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Two other users, Bormalagurski and HolyRomanEmperor, have also been involved in the dispute but are currently blocked. I have not informed them of this mediation as they will be unable to participate in it. -- ChrisO 09:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Extensive discussion on article talk page since May 2006
Brief background: all of our reputable published sources (books, encyclopedias, media reports etc) describe Kosovo as a province of Serbia under United Nations administration. This is reflected in the article's introduction. User:Ferick believes that this is inaccurate and instead wishes the article to say that Kosovo "is located in the south-east Europe" without reference to Serbia. He has repeatedly deleted any mention of Kosovo as part of Serbia from the article's intro. This has resulted in a long-running edit war between Ferick and a large number of other editors, which has resulted in the article being protected for extended periods.
The issue has been discussed extensively in the article talk page but we have seem to have reached an impasse. Ferick has expressed an unwillingness to discuss sources or abide by WP:NPOV, which has made it difficult to find any common ground. His position is supported by User:Ilir pz but otherwise the majority of editors (most of whom are not Serbs, by the way) have already reached a consensus on the existing introduction.
I don't particularly expect this mediation to get anywhere, given Ferick's apparent rejection of WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:CITE and WP:RS. However, for the sake of ticking the box in the dispute resolution procedure I would like the Mediation Committee to consider the matter. -- ChrisO 09:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
{Archived here to remove from unnecessary subpage. Essjay ( Talk • Connect) 13:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC))
I am seeking mediation assistance with regards a dispute concerning my attempt to tidy the wiki by removal of redlinks as per What not to link and Administrator Ambi’s dogmatic refusal to allow any adjustments along these lines. I have attempted to discuss this matter with her – and that discussion has gotten heated on both sides (see combined talk pages). In particular I am concerned by long term redlinks and on that point I am more than happy to concede that some of my removals may be too early for all wikipedians but I do not concede that redlinks should be allowed to stand ad infinitum. For a single example (although the dispute is not about this page per se) this article St. Nicholas' Collegiate Church which has not been added to or adjusted since April 5, 2005 is in Ambi’s view (as posted on her user page) to be quite good. I would not be allowed to remove the redlinks on that page that have been there for almost a year and which make the article look clumsy and feel unprofessional. If I did I would be threatened that my alterations are close to vandalism and then would be threatened with blocking if such changes continue. Indeed Ambi has even gone so far as to revert redlinks that I personally created in my own major articles. The continuum of our conflict is probably that I consider that I am following both the consensus view/s and the encyclopedic view that redlinks are generally clumsy and should be discouraged – and if not discouraged totally able to be removed when a reasonable amount of time has passed. I also have a concern with Ambi’s method of administrator support but that may be her way of doing things and beyond mediation. Whilst it may be impossible to clear up this matter perfectly there must be a way to gain middle ground on this and not be threatened on every edit. Please can you help? VirtualSteve 12:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Withdrawn - Ambi refuses to respond - no mediation possible. VirtualSteve 20:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request:
The neutrality of using the word "liberate" and its derivative in the context of military operations, specifically in the context of the USSR's taking of Ukraine, Baltic states, Poland etc. from Germany in WWII. The issue is vied differently by the parties:
Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request:
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My edits - admittedly badly summarized in the edit's comment - are as follows:
In Spahbod's last talk message [59] he noted "You changed the whole article from a Parsi ethnicity article to a minor religious minority of India with Indi ethnicity".
Response:
Presuming that this is the justification for his revert, this opinion that I "changed" anything is not correct since the substance of the previous article has been completely incorporated in my edits.
The requesting party may file a new, correctly filed request and correctly notify the other party if mediation is still desired.
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Maakhter 23:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)