According to the editing procedure on List of Freemasons, all edits must be cited with Lodge info or other verifiable sources. Recently, Baphin added individuals from Turkey back to the list. They were removed because they were unverifiable at the time see here. Baphin added them back in, and did not add any citations here. I rved per procedure and notified him on his user page [1]. He responded by saying all GLs maintain list of famous Masons in other jurisdictions (they do not), and that it was easily verfiable (it was not, as I do not read Turkish). Rather than find citations, he instead tried to start an argument. He also re-added the section here and still did not add citations. I reverted his edits and some other uncites by other users engaging in repetitive minor edits here. I would prefer that this not escalate into revert warring - the policies on the List are clear, Baphin did not read them, and although I gave him clear and polite instruction on how to resolve the issue, he ignored it and tried to start a poorly done argument. Therefore, I would like the issue mediated as a first resort, with RFAr to follow if unsuccessful. MSJapan 00:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Jason was quite irritated when a number of articles he contriubuted to were nominated for deletion, mostly for non-notability. He sent emails to at least two members who identified as Christian on their user pages (I was one) to support his articles, and has since then made a number of AfDs in questionable faith.
I think it would benefit if the moderator who specifically handles this case identifies as Christian.
Contact me for any further assistance, or if I can give any further information.
-- Justin Eiler 04:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
This dispute is about infoboxes used in Korea-related articles, whether they should include the nearly-obsolete Hanja (chinese characters historically used in korea), in addition to the korean script Hangul and two romanizations. Having Hanja in the default infobox for modern Korean topics, where most Koreans don't use or even know the Hanja, discourages the use of the infobox, makes it harder to complete, and does not reflect actual local usage. A small group of Chinese-fluent wikipedians, however, are insisting on keeping Hanja, even where Koreans themselves don't use it. I propose to use non-Hanja infoboxes where Hanja comprises less than 1% of the mention of the topic in Korean language google results. Nobody objects to Hanja in the article body for historical, etymological, or disambiguation discussion. We're only talking about whether default infoboxes should include Hanja. We have tried a poll, which was worthless with Endroit's overbroad wording, and RfC, with very limited interest. Appleby 17:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Heavy revert warring going on between several parties, and gratuitous incivility all around. Users are now requesting censure of an admin who blocked them for revert warring. As an uninvolved party I believe this issue can only really be resolved through mediation. R adiant _>|< 23:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Baker's supporters, particularly David Lyons are attacking the page to either 1) delete or belittle arguments negative to Baker's claims of innocence 2) personalise the case against Mark Devlin, making it appear he is the only critic of the case 3) Belittling the media that criticism of Baker appeared in 4) removing factual data, such as a comparison of the arrest rates in the US and Japan. I believe that the article is reasonable as it stands by my last edit and would like like to request your help in mediating to prevent the page becoming an extension of Baker's support page. Thank you. Sparkzilla 00:46, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Request mediation for article West Azerbaijan. User:Zereshk keeps putting unverified (+ protected) tagg for no acceptable reason regarding the Kurds in Northern part of the province, despite of numerous credible sources. Thank you.
D iyako Talk + 13:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
I have cited enough sources but this party (Zereshk) ignores them and only accepts Tutk, Turk, Turk, and ignore Kurds!!! D iyako Talk + 03:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Judging by this page the MedCom is presently inactive. Still, if any MedCommers read this, please take a look at User:SPUI/SFD, which is a list of users apparently disgruntled with SFD who have resorted to boycotting the process and encouraging others to do the same. While they have good reasons for being gruntled, this is hardly a way of solving anything, so I would appreciate some kind of mediation in the dispute. R adiant _>|< 11:11, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
User: Keithd claims he is "fighting on two fronts" to stop two articles from allowing factual references to anti-semitism, or fascism. He believes they are anti-conservative attempts at "guilt by association". He calls me anti-Christian, among other things, and behaves in a rather hostile manner while revert warring 24/7. Also claims I am arrogantly acting beyond my bounds when opposing his changes (I am not an American nor an american-style conservative.) Should articles such as those just be left to editors who support the overall ideas? I don't know what to do. The two articles are:
War on Christmas (as in the U.S. fox news theme) and
Conservatism.--
sansvoix 03:28, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Mediation is required over a conflict in wording in the article as to whether "many" or "most" hockey authorities support Gretzky as the greatest hockey player of all time. User: TrulyTory has reverted this edit eleven times in five days, and has been cited for 3RR violation, while myself, User: Masterhatch, User: Croat Canuck among others back the current consensus. A similar dispute is taking place over in Bobby Orr. This has been RfCed with no result. RGTraynor 06:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I've been involved in a dispute with User: FourthAve over this article. What's happened is this: Back in November I came across the Bob Vander Plaats article using random article, and it was in my opinion a thinly-veiled attack page written by FourthAge (see first version of page). I whacked a {{POV}} tag on it, and FourthAge took it off. I put it back, and was subjected to a barrage of abuse on my talk page that I tried to deal with sensibly.
Nothing happened for a few days and I kind of forgot about the article, and only remembered to follow up a few days ago. POV tag was gone again and the abusive bullshit posted on the talk page, all aimed at me, needs to be read to be believed. Me be angry. I'd really appreciate some cool heads to mediate this one. Thanks. Reyk 06:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
User:-Inanna- is promoting a pan-Turkish POV with an article that is actually quite fair and equitable towards the Turks of Turkey. Her picture inclusion depicts non-Turks as Turks just to promote some sort of inclusion of all famous figures ever affiliated with Turkey as ethnic Turks. Discussed this on the Discussion page to no avail. Thanks. Tombseye 21:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
The Paris article has been appropriated by Wikipedian Hardouin. The same has managed to write and rewrite over 2/3 of the page into a content filled with unreferenceable personal opinions, and is fervently protecting it against any correction through reverting, almost always to his own unchanged version. Edits have always been (well) preceded by Talk page postings, followed by a (sometimes very long) waiting periods for consensus. Seemingly the only original wikipedian contributor left to the page, Hardouin refuses to partake in any dialogue, listen to suggestions and/or change his text himself. Yet the same is always right there to revert. Won't provide factual references, even when reverting the work of an author who does. Am in the midst of a two-day revert war but call it off for mediation. Have tried WP:RFC [2] and WP:3O [3] and have also asked personally the page's original contribotors and other users to help. To no avail. So thank you if you can. THEPROMENADER 19:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC) (formerly User:Josefu).
It is argued according to several users that most articles, such as pedelec, electric bicycle, power-assisted bicycle, motor assisted bicycle are POV forks to the article motorized bicycle. I do not agree and base this on the precences of truck, SUV and Car all being a type of automobile. We have attempted to partake in discusion but this is mostly through deletion process because user:JzG nominates this articles for deletion right away believing they are POV Forks. user:woohookitty may also be involved. To plague the situation even more, there is debates on wheter we can include certain pictures into the article of motorized bicycle. We have attempted to resolve these issues by talking on his user page but we still face the same old. Non inclusion of this information, according to me, though perhaps it may be neglibable, as JzG has stated (ie.: CCM bicycle), is a type of POV. JzG has indicated that that neglible things shouldn't be included. Since there is no importance add to the relevance of the information (from my source) it is obvious we will not be able state this vehicles relevance. However, we should not be distracted from the main issue. That is, the idea of no longer being able to develop other, though closelly related, different articles. A few months ago, I have even asked JzG if he could go into mediation and all he said was... "why?" So essential this mediation is for "POV Forking", deletionism and user conduct in regards to expanding articles. -- CyclePat 04:43, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
I request mediation between User:Theodore7 and several of the participants in this RfC. The case is well described in this RfC, but basicly we need someone who will help us graduatly incorporate several of the changes Theo is trying to make in his significant rewrites of astrology, Nostradamus and several other articles. For reasons clarified in the RfC, I request that the person who will mediate in this case is 40 years, but preferably older. — Ruud 13:56, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
User:OpenInfo was blocked indefinitely (and unfairly) by request of NathanZook due to user editing an article on Messianic "Judaism", using a totally NPOV, that conflicted with NathanZook's Messianic beliefs.
NathanZook then left a long, completely false, statement in User:OpenInfo's discussion page, and accused user of "Vandalism".
User replied, and then NathanZook requested that editor Jtkiefer ban user OpenInfo.
Jtkiefer is an editor who is well known for banning people without a second look. He accused OpenInfo of "threatening" NathanZook.
However, there were no "threats" made, only a statement saying that NathanZook was falsely accusing OpenInfo of:
- posting Christian links (check the history, it is untrue) - fixing spelling mistakes (also false) - several other edits (also false)
User OpenInfo merely stated that NathanZook must be either lying, or confused, due to the sheer volume of false accusations made. That was no threat, merely an observation.
According to the editing procedure on List of Freemasons, all edits must be cited with Lodge info or other verifiable sources. Recently, Baphin added individuals from Turkey back to the list. They were removed because they were unverifiable at the time see here. Baphin added them back in, and did not add any citations here. I rved per procedure and notified him on his user page [1]. He responded by saying all GLs maintain list of famous Masons in other jurisdictions (they do not), and that it was easily verfiable (it was not, as I do not read Turkish). Rather than find citations, he instead tried to start an argument. He also re-added the section here and still did not add citations. I reverted his edits and some other uncites by other users engaging in repetitive minor edits here. I would prefer that this not escalate into revert warring - the policies on the List are clear, Baphin did not read them, and although I gave him clear and polite instruction on how to resolve the issue, he ignored it and tried to start a poorly done argument. Therefore, I would like the issue mediated as a first resort, with RFAr to follow if unsuccessful. MSJapan 00:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Jason was quite irritated when a number of articles he contriubuted to were nominated for deletion, mostly for non-notability. He sent emails to at least two members who identified as Christian on their user pages (I was one) to support his articles, and has since then made a number of AfDs in questionable faith.
I think it would benefit if the moderator who specifically handles this case identifies as Christian.
Contact me for any further assistance, or if I can give any further information.
-- Justin Eiler 04:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
This dispute is about infoboxes used in Korea-related articles, whether they should include the nearly-obsolete Hanja (chinese characters historically used in korea), in addition to the korean script Hangul and two romanizations. Having Hanja in the default infobox for modern Korean topics, where most Koreans don't use or even know the Hanja, discourages the use of the infobox, makes it harder to complete, and does not reflect actual local usage. A small group of Chinese-fluent wikipedians, however, are insisting on keeping Hanja, even where Koreans themselves don't use it. I propose to use non-Hanja infoboxes where Hanja comprises less than 1% of the mention of the topic in Korean language google results. Nobody objects to Hanja in the article body for historical, etymological, or disambiguation discussion. We're only talking about whether default infoboxes should include Hanja. We have tried a poll, which was worthless with Endroit's overbroad wording, and RfC, with very limited interest. Appleby 17:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Heavy revert warring going on between several parties, and gratuitous incivility all around. Users are now requesting censure of an admin who blocked them for revert warring. As an uninvolved party I believe this issue can only really be resolved through mediation. R adiant _>|< 23:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Baker's supporters, particularly David Lyons are attacking the page to either 1) delete or belittle arguments negative to Baker's claims of innocence 2) personalise the case against Mark Devlin, making it appear he is the only critic of the case 3) Belittling the media that criticism of Baker appeared in 4) removing factual data, such as a comparison of the arrest rates in the US and Japan. I believe that the article is reasonable as it stands by my last edit and would like like to request your help in mediating to prevent the page becoming an extension of Baker's support page. Thank you. Sparkzilla 00:46, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Request mediation for article West Azerbaijan. User:Zereshk keeps putting unverified (+ protected) tagg for no acceptable reason regarding the Kurds in Northern part of the province, despite of numerous credible sources. Thank you.
D iyako Talk + 13:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
I have cited enough sources but this party (Zereshk) ignores them and only accepts Tutk, Turk, Turk, and ignore Kurds!!! D iyako Talk + 03:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Judging by this page the MedCom is presently inactive. Still, if any MedCommers read this, please take a look at User:SPUI/SFD, which is a list of users apparently disgruntled with SFD who have resorted to boycotting the process and encouraging others to do the same. While they have good reasons for being gruntled, this is hardly a way of solving anything, so I would appreciate some kind of mediation in the dispute. R adiant _>|< 11:11, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
User: Keithd claims he is "fighting on two fronts" to stop two articles from allowing factual references to anti-semitism, or fascism. He believes they are anti-conservative attempts at "guilt by association". He calls me anti-Christian, among other things, and behaves in a rather hostile manner while revert warring 24/7. Also claims I am arrogantly acting beyond my bounds when opposing his changes (I am not an American nor an american-style conservative.) Should articles such as those just be left to editors who support the overall ideas? I don't know what to do. The two articles are:
War on Christmas (as in the U.S. fox news theme) and
Conservatism.--
sansvoix 03:28, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Mediation is required over a conflict in wording in the article as to whether "many" or "most" hockey authorities support Gretzky as the greatest hockey player of all time. User: TrulyTory has reverted this edit eleven times in five days, and has been cited for 3RR violation, while myself, User: Masterhatch, User: Croat Canuck among others back the current consensus. A similar dispute is taking place over in Bobby Orr. This has been RfCed with no result. RGTraynor 06:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I've been involved in a dispute with User: FourthAve over this article. What's happened is this: Back in November I came across the Bob Vander Plaats article using random article, and it was in my opinion a thinly-veiled attack page written by FourthAge (see first version of page). I whacked a {{POV}} tag on it, and FourthAge took it off. I put it back, and was subjected to a barrage of abuse on my talk page that I tried to deal with sensibly.
Nothing happened for a few days and I kind of forgot about the article, and only remembered to follow up a few days ago. POV tag was gone again and the abusive bullshit posted on the talk page, all aimed at me, needs to be read to be believed. Me be angry. I'd really appreciate some cool heads to mediate this one. Thanks. Reyk 06:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
User:-Inanna- is promoting a pan-Turkish POV with an article that is actually quite fair and equitable towards the Turks of Turkey. Her picture inclusion depicts non-Turks as Turks just to promote some sort of inclusion of all famous figures ever affiliated with Turkey as ethnic Turks. Discussed this on the Discussion page to no avail. Thanks. Tombseye 21:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
The Paris article has been appropriated by Wikipedian Hardouin. The same has managed to write and rewrite over 2/3 of the page into a content filled with unreferenceable personal opinions, and is fervently protecting it against any correction through reverting, almost always to his own unchanged version. Edits have always been (well) preceded by Talk page postings, followed by a (sometimes very long) waiting periods for consensus. Seemingly the only original wikipedian contributor left to the page, Hardouin refuses to partake in any dialogue, listen to suggestions and/or change his text himself. Yet the same is always right there to revert. Won't provide factual references, even when reverting the work of an author who does. Am in the midst of a two-day revert war but call it off for mediation. Have tried WP:RFC [2] and WP:3O [3] and have also asked personally the page's original contribotors and other users to help. To no avail. So thank you if you can. THEPROMENADER 19:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC) (formerly User:Josefu).
It is argued according to several users that most articles, such as pedelec, electric bicycle, power-assisted bicycle, motor assisted bicycle are POV forks to the article motorized bicycle. I do not agree and base this on the precences of truck, SUV and Car all being a type of automobile. We have attempted to partake in discusion but this is mostly through deletion process because user:JzG nominates this articles for deletion right away believing they are POV Forks. user:woohookitty may also be involved. To plague the situation even more, there is debates on wheter we can include certain pictures into the article of motorized bicycle. We have attempted to resolve these issues by talking on his user page but we still face the same old. Non inclusion of this information, according to me, though perhaps it may be neglibable, as JzG has stated (ie.: CCM bicycle), is a type of POV. JzG has indicated that that neglible things shouldn't be included. Since there is no importance add to the relevance of the information (from my source) it is obvious we will not be able state this vehicles relevance. However, we should not be distracted from the main issue. That is, the idea of no longer being able to develop other, though closelly related, different articles. A few months ago, I have even asked JzG if he could go into mediation and all he said was... "why?" So essential this mediation is for "POV Forking", deletionism and user conduct in regards to expanding articles. -- CyclePat 04:43, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
I request mediation between User:Theodore7 and several of the participants in this RfC. The case is well described in this RfC, but basicly we need someone who will help us graduatly incorporate several of the changes Theo is trying to make in his significant rewrites of astrology, Nostradamus and several other articles. For reasons clarified in the RfC, I request that the person who will mediate in this case is 40 years, but preferably older. — Ruud 13:56, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
User:OpenInfo was blocked indefinitely (and unfairly) by request of NathanZook due to user editing an article on Messianic "Judaism", using a totally NPOV, that conflicted with NathanZook's Messianic beliefs.
NathanZook then left a long, completely false, statement in User:OpenInfo's discussion page, and accused user of "Vandalism".
User replied, and then NathanZook requested that editor Jtkiefer ban user OpenInfo.
Jtkiefer is an editor who is well known for banning people without a second look. He accused OpenInfo of "threatening" NathanZook.
However, there were no "threats" made, only a statement saying that NathanZook was falsely accusing OpenInfo of:
- posting Christian links (check the history, it is untrue) - fixing spelling mistakes (also false) - several other edits (also false)
User OpenInfo merely stated that NathanZook must be either lying, or confused, due to the sheer volume of false accusations made. That was no threat, merely an observation.