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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Francisco Gómez (footballer, born 1967)

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Contested BLAR. Article created by a blocked sockpupeteer evading a salting of Francisco Javier Gómez. Cites no sources containing significant coverage. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Sports broadcasting contracts in the Philippines

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WP:NOTGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are made of entirely of announcments, just not worthy of an encyclopaedic value. Those arguing for a keep must be advised of WP:USEFUL. I also advise those to create a Fandom page for your favorite sport if you want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 23:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete with no prejudice for recreation later on. I originally created this article as a spin off of Broadcasting of sports events but the article has devolved into a list of every sports events broadcast in the country without discussing actual contracts. The parent article has an ugly {{ globalize}} template and could use help for countries which are not dominated by Caucasians. I'd probably do that later on as my PC is busted. The Philippines has a rich history of this dating back to the 1950s with the broadcast of NCAA basketball championships (Philippines) and even had court cases on who should broadcast the UAAP on the turn of the century. Howard the Duck ( talk) 07:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per Howard; as with many WP:TV Fliipino articles he had good intentions but nobody has brought any sources (six of them here), and it's as usual a complete free-for-all of poor overall organization and especially for the basketball section which gets down to semi-pro junior leagues only the gamblers and family are watching, a complete failure to understand that a list article should be a list, not a compilation of 'network fan drama'. Nate ( chatter) 01:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Sports broadcasting contracts in the Dominican Republic

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep must be advised of WP:USEFUL. I also advise those to create a Fandom page for your favorite sport if you want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 23:27, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 00:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Nylon Pink

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Sources on page do not appear to be reliable (except maybe LA Weekly, though it is a blog), and I couldn't find any other coverage aside from this very brief AllMusic bio. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 23:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete – Per nom. Most sources are now unavailable, and the band's notability is completely questionable. Svartner ( talk) 05:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Vasilisa Kaganovskaia

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Fails WP:NSKATE; any medal placements are at the junior level. PROD was removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per WP:NSKATE, as far as I can tell. Halfadaniel ( talk) 05:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. The "Grand Prix" is not a senior-level national championship. Bearian ( talk) 14:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Trimukhi Baavdi

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No reliable sources Sohom ( talk) 20:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per WP:GNG, WP:MILL, WP:NOTINHERITED, and WP:RS. It's a hole in the ground. There's no allegation that this well is anything more than one of hundreds of thousands of wells, even if someone famous paid for it to be dug. There are no reliable sources. Bearian ( talk) 14:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Som River

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Fails WP:NGEO, no reliable sources. Google tells me https://guj-nwrws.gujarat.gov.in/showpage.aspx?contentid=1845&lang=english should be a source, however that appears to be statistics and a dead link. Sohom ( talk) 20:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Sipu River

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Fails WP:NGEO, no reliable sources. Google tells me https://guj-nwrws.gujarat.gov.in/showpage.aspx?contentid=1845&lang=english should be a source, however that appears to be statistics and a dead link. Sohom ( talk) 20:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Sports broadcasting contracts in Montenegro

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WP:NOTGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, no source whatsoever. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 16:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete - No merit under WP:NLIST BrigadierG ( talk) 10:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Volkswagen Golf Variant

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Model isn't notable in its own right to warrant an article, Each Golf article has a Variant section (and and none of the Golf articles even mentions this article ( /info/en/?search=Special:WhatLinksHere/Volkswagen_Golf_Variant), It would be like creating Volkswagen Golf Cariolet or Volkswagen Golf 3-door etc if that makes sense, no evidence of any notability, Fails GNG – Davey2010 Talk 19:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete As noted in nom, discussion of variants belongs in individual articles; we don't need a separate article to aggregate those variants. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:53, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - no need for a redirect, or we would set ourselves up for redirects for every single bodystyle ever created of every car out there.  Mr.choppers |  ✎  17:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Consensus to delete for non-notability. Valereee ( talk) 14:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Guarana (energy drink)

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Fails WP:NPRODUCT. Admittedly, the name doesn't make searching the easiest, but I haven't found any significant coverage. ARandomName123 ( talk)Ping me! 20:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Blisk (web browser)

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As far as I can tell, the only notable source for this is Mashable. Hence, it currently fails WP:GNG. I did a quick search and didn't really find any sources more notable. Allan Nonymous ( talk) 22:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak Keep: A lot of the sources I found were press releases or overly promotional, but with the reviews from Mashable, Fossbytes and Softpedia, (both a little questionable but at least they have actual authors and ratings), and coverage of the data breach in Zdnet I think it can be kept. Weak keep because it only got coverage when it released and when it had a data breach and nothing really in between or after. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 19:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ StreetcarEnjoyer On 2 December 2023‎ the user Lotje has removed almost the whole article with lots of sources. I'm asking to revert the majority of changes. The software works and gets released constantly. Let's discuss on how to rewrite the features and press releases. Can you help with this? And85rew ( talk) 08:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    No, I am against including that content. The article does not need "features and press releases". The content that was removed is contrary to policy. I will remove it again if it's readded. If you have specific additions in mind, it's best to suggest them on the talk page. And if you have a conflict of interest, please disclose it. — Alalch E. 09:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Could you please explain why features are not needed? The features describe the software. The article /info/en/?search=Google_Chrome names the key features (User interface, Built-in tools, Desktop shortcuts and apps, Extensions, Speed, Security, Privacy). Why cannot this article list the features of the software? And85rew ( talk) 09:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    The article will never be the way it used to be. The misuse of Wikipedia at this page has been put to an end. It lasted for a while, but that time has come and gone. Disclose your conflict of interest. See the edit history of the article where the reasons for removal are stated in the edit summaries. — Alalch E. 09:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    The experienced editor Alalch E. is correct here. The article in its prior status was exclusively cited to primary sources and violated the Wikipedia guidelines of not being a blatant advertisement. Features listed in other web browser pages like Google Chrome and Firefox are (mostly) cited to independent, reliable sources, have enough coverage in independent sources, and were given by other editors who generally do not have a conflict of interest. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 22:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. In all likelihood, I find the initial flurry of coverage to be almost certainly based substantially or entirely on press kit, i.e. WP:CHURNALISM. The Fossbytes article is especially obvious, I mean hell, that second last sentence: You can go ahead and try our Blisk for Windows right now. Did they even bother paraphrasing the email they got before publishing it? The state of available sourcing is unacceptable, it fails independence requirements. Other, more exhaustive software directories (like, I don't know, Softpedia, where it's already at) may be an appropriate home for this, but Wikipedia is not that. Alpha3031 ( tc) 12:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: I'd like to change my vote. Frankly the sourcing available is bad and sourcing a web browser entirely to "it was released and had a data breach once" is not a good idea. All the sources not about the data breach do sound like press release churnalism, even the Mashable article. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 23:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was merge‎ to Carrot cake. Liz Read! Talk! 22:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Carrot cake cookie

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Non-notable cookie that does not pass WP:GNG, references consist of recipes and trivial mentions. WP:BEFORE check yielded no sources that show WP:SIGCOV. Should be merged into Carrot cake#UK and US if not deleted outright. BaduFerreira ( talk) 21:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete I have bookmarked scores of cookies I'd like to try making. This one isn't in it, but it appears to be a prime example of something that's just an inspired recipe with many variations, not a notable dish that's cohesively described outside of a cookbook writer's introduction. This could be a sentence in Carrot cake. Reywas92 Talk 02:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge to Carrot cake and redirect, at least for now. It's possible this one could get there -- oreo makes a version, subway and aldis have a version, I've added that content+refs. Gourmet did something in 2004, but on a quick search I'm not finding it, and it was not unlikely it was a simple recipe, but if anyone can figure out their archives, ping me to a link and I'll add. Commercial uptake is probably a promising sign for this cookie's notability, so it would be good to have that info at carrot cake for future consideration. Valereee ( talk) 12:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Selective Merge to Carrot cake, which presently has no mention other than a link in its See also section. North America 1000 10:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge as suggested, as a good compromise. Bearian ( talk) 14:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Also, "Checking notability" is not a deletion rationale. Please do not bring articles to an AFD if you just want to check them out. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Gaston Gelos

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Checking notability. Dejaqo ( talk) 20:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Following a review of the article and its sources, I made some changes. With sources like [1], [2] an other citations in that, notability can be clearly demonstrated. Also he is frequently quoted by major financial media outlets including Bloomberg, CNBC, and the Financial Times, as an economist. Southati ( talk) 14:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Looking on GS under both RG Gelos and Gaston Gelos seems sufficiently well cited for a pass of WP:Prof. ( Msrasnw ( talk) 17:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)) reply
  • Keep In addition to WP:Prof, clearly passes WP:GNG. Gedaali ( talk) 20:17, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2023–24 CD Alcoyano season

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Contested PROD. Not playing in professional division, does not appear to meet WP:SIGCOV under WP:GNG, not being regularly maintained Crowsus ( talk) 20:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. A single file summarizing the CD Alcoyano seasons is enough. Svartner ( talk) 22:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I respect that semi-pro seasons can sometimes be notable but I'm struggling to see how this would be one of the rare few. As above, a line or two about the season at CD Alcoyano would be more than sufficient. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails WP:NSEASONS. Govvy ( talk) 19:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It's a potentially viable article, but does not currently pass GNG on its face. Can be draftified and improved if anyone wants to. SportingFlyer T· C 20:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Jerusalem unrest

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Per WP:EVENTCRIT: "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news...whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." Per WP:NOTNEWS: "Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion" AusLondonder ( talk) 20:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Shakira tribute albums

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Contested prod. Fails WP:LISTN: one album listed has a review in Allmusic, everything else is covered only by streaming services, catalog listings, and eBay listings. Since the prose is mostly WP:OR, I don't see anything worth merging. hinnk ( talk) 20:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per above: If more releases were notable then I would still recommend converting to Category:Shakira tribute albums, but there's nothing here worth keeping anyway. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 22:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - The policy-based arguments by everyone above are correct. Also note that upon inspecting some of the listings, most of these "tribute" albums are made up of cover versions recorded by unknown studio musicians and remixes by equally unknown DJs. Just about all of them are attempts by shysters to sponge money off a famous person's success, and all failed to generate notice. That same notice is required for an article here. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 12:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. >>>  Extorc. talk 18:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. List of non-notable albums. OK for a fan site. Needs sources comparing the albums to satisfy the notability criteria for lists. Rupples ( talk) 19:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Anuradha Bhattacharyya

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Main claim to fame in lede appears to be winning an Chandigarh Sahitya Akademi, but that's not supported by the refs (one ref just mentions that she was selected to give away the award), and her name is not mentioned anywhere here (in the English or Hindi sections, at least). I don't see WP:SIGCOV and any other reliable sources in the article, just bibiographies and mentions. Was deleted previously by AfD and quickly recreated by the original author soon after. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/chandigarh/honour-for-17-authors-by-csa-52965 Cash prize mentioned. The Chandigarh Sahitya Akademi is the State Award in Literature. Without 'Chandigarh', Sahitya Akademi is the National award.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/sahitya-akademi-honour-for-writers-384418 This was in 2017 for the book One Word, same government body.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190204231321/http://chdpr.gov.in/dashboard/sites/default/files/Commendation%20Certificates%20for%20distinguished%20service.pdf This one is the State Honour from the government presented on the Republic Day of India, state level. For this, a police verification is conducted for eligibility. It is not a small matter to receive this honour in India. Atul Bhattacharyya ( talk) 16:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This looks like a paid Job or an intention to promote subject article on wikipedia. I was just taking a look at the external link section and after clicking the twitter link I found out that the subject has already started promoting her wikipedia page by using the twitter link on her bio.

https://twitter.com/AnuradhaAuthor Beside that, subject article fails WP:GNG.-- Meligirl5 ( talk) 17:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete: Not a notable figure, and i also supports the Nominator's views. TheChronikler7 ( talk) 06:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Doesn't appear to be notable and somewhat vanity article. RationalPuff ( talk) 22:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Clementine cake

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Despite being a good article, not a single source has WP:SIGCOV of this specific cake. The majority of sources are recipes which is fine if they're accompanied by significant coverage and discussion of the dish, but there isn't any. The only shred of notability that I'm seeing comes from being a minor plot in a 2013 film and supposedly being an adaption of an ancient Jewish cake. The sources for this second claim are a personal blog (which isn't a reliable source) and the Encyclopedia of Jewish Food which makes no mention of an orange cake that this article claims Clementine cake was adapted from. We need sources that speak about this cake's notability (not just more recipes) and if that doesn't exist, I believe a selective merge to Fruitcake#United States is the best option. BaduFerreira ( talk) 20:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The claims about the ancient cake appear to be from the New York Times? Valereee ( talk) 21:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nice catch, I missed that. That source is a recipe on the New York Times cooking website and the entirety of discussion of this cake is as follows: "This dessert, loosely based on a Sephardic orange cake, uses whole clementines, peels and all, for a flavor rich in citrus. The cooking time may seem long, but much of it doesn’t require much attention from the baker. And the first step, reducing the fruit, may be done ahead of time." Nothing in terms of WP:SIGCOV. BaduFerreira ( talk) 22:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
You also missed that the recipe is connected to an article. The NYT does that with their food writing: they write an article, and then they put the recipe(s) from that article into separate article/s with the main article attached with a "Featured in" link. Valereee ( talk) 22:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Oh wow, I didn't realize that at all. Looking at the broader article shows where that earlier blurb came from: "The star of the feast came last: the Clementine Cake (pictured above). Baked by Dawn Datso, a family friend and professional pastry chef, it didn’t come from the book. But the cultural mash-up involved in its creation made it seem supremely appropriate. Years ago, while living in Malaysia, Ms. Datso was browsing in a library and came across a cookbook with some random recipe for Sephardic orange cake. A big fan of clementines, she eventually adapted the cake to feature them". The only WP:SIGCOV that can be pulled from this source is a person adapted a recipe for Sephardic orange cake by adding clementines and made her friend a cake. The baker ( Dawn Datso) is described as a professional pastry chef, but I can't find any information about her. This doesn't show that Clementine cake has any notability. BaduFerreira ( talk) 22:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
You've been told twice before this on the talk that not every source used in an article has to represent significant coverage. Other RS can be used to support assertions. Valereee ( talk) 22:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
What sources currently used in this article show significant coverage? There isn't a single source used in this article that has significant coverage of Clementine cake as a notable cake. Three of the sources that you've added ( The Guardian, The Sydney Morning Herald, The SF Chronicle) looked good at first, but they're recipes for an Orange & Almond Cake. Also none of them are over WP:100WORDS. BaduFerreira ( talk) 22:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Well, the Perelman source is quite lengthy. But even the sources you're objecting to for not having enough words -- that's an essay, btw, not policy -- are calling it famous and a classic. They're discussing its ancient roots and that it's a traditional Sephardic passover food. Significant coverage isn't just about wordcount. Sometimes it's about what they're saying and who's saying it. In this case, RS and experts from all over the world are saying it. Valereee ( talk) 23:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I've added several more sources, although frankly I don't think this article needed it. The NYT has covered this cake multiple times. The Guardian has covered it. The San Francisco Chronicle. Claudia Roden has covered it. Nigella Lawson has covered it. Joyce Goldstein. It appears to be a cake that has ancient roots, which is always an indicator of notability. I didn't have to look very hard. Valereee ( talk) 22:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep This nomination gives me a weird feeling. First sources get removed and when they are restored and expanded on, a nomination follows. The Banner  talk 23:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Enough coverage in the sources found and added by Valeree for a GNG pass. Rupples ( talk) 19:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Quick keep per above. on a side note, the GA should be reassessed tho. I feel the article doesn't quite match the standards mainly due to its brief length. X ( talk) 22:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. I failed to search for results using his nickname. ( non-admin closure)JTtheOG ( talk) 22:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Bradley Porteous

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Cricketer BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 19:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was moved to Draft:Amelia Hamer, as an alternative to deletion, per request. BD2412 T 15:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Amelia Hamer

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Only claim to notability is being a candidate for the next Australian federal election. Sources cover her in the context of winning a party selection process. She is not notable by virtue of connection with notable family members. It is long-standing practice that we don't create articles for unelected election candidates. AusLondonder ( talk) 19:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: I agree and as is stated in WP:NPOLITICIAN an unelected candidate in an election isn't inherently notable, but when a candidate's article can be supported with sources that establish notability through WP:GNG, then, as stated in NPOLITICIAN, such people can still be notable. In connection with GNG, a range of sources from both within the article already, and from a Google Search show the article's subject meets the GNG criteria. — GMH Melbourne ( talk) 00:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Nothing in the article demonstrates her notability inside or outside politics.-- Grahame ( talk) 13:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete not independently notable outside a political candidacy, and we have a number of reasons to delete those sorts of pages. SportingFlyer T· C 00:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete not notable for being a political candidate. Her activities at Oxford University hardly add to notability. Fails WP:BIO and WP:NPOL. LibStar ( talk) 00:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The subject article seems to be a TOO SOON. She might later gain notability in the future but for now she doesn't seems to be notable or either enough sources to meet WP:GNG.-- Meligirl5 ( talk) 17:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - TOOSOON and WP:POLOUTCOMES. While consensus can change, the longtime and frequent outcomes have been a long standing precedent. Bearian ( talk) 14:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Draftify: With the likely result being to delete, I request the article be drafted, in case the subject wins the election, in order to retain the edit history thusfar GMH Melbourne ( talk) 01:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. As always, candidates do not get articles just for being candidates — obviously she'll qualify for an article if she wins the seat once the election happens, but she isn't eligible to have one just for being named as a candidate. But the existence of that campaign coverage received in the context of her candidacy does not in and of itself hand a candidate a WP:GNG-based exemption from WP:NPOLevery candidate in every election everywhere can always show some evidence of campaign coverage, so if that were how it worked then every candidate would always get that exemption and NPOL itself would be completely meaningless and unenforceable. So the notability test for an unelected candidate isn't passed on campaign coverage alone, and normally requires that she already passed an inclusion criterion for some other reason besides her candidacy. Bearcat ( talk) 20:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

General Mariano Alvarez Technical High School

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the article's topic is unnotable, the aricle contains 0 references, and is only 1 sentence long. Gaismagorm ( talk) 19:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Jaspa's Journey: The Great Migration

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the article seems to be promotional in nature, with it's only two references being from the publisher of the book, and the other being a website about the book. the articles creator has only only one edit, with it being the creation of this article. Gaismagorm ( talk) 19:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

1993 Space Machine

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Sourcing is exclusively interviews, with no critical commentary in sight. Metacritic turns up no critic reviews, and searches per WP:BEFORE don't turn up much. It's an interesting subject, but it does not appear to meet the general notability guidelines. λ Negative MP1 18:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Buran Parks

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The closest to WP:SIGCOV that I found was this coverage for winning a club player of the year award. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Consensus is clear. BD2412 T 15:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Yaimara Aguilar

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a Cuban women's footballer, to meet WP:GNG. The ideal redirect would be List of Cuba women's international footballers, which doesn't exist, but another user suggested a redirect to Cuba women's national football team. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Volunthai

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I am struggling to find any recent information about Volunthai. Their website - volungthai.com - widely quoted in older online pages and previously in their wiki page (until I removed the reference) - points to a 'free hookup' site. The organisation appears to have always been very small. Can't find any associated organisations that I can link it with. Newhaven lad ( talk) 17:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: It does not appear the organization exists anymore so if suitable sources exists, they will be hard to find. I searched ProQuest for the Washington Post and other sources mentioned in the article but those and others were all first hand accounts so WP:primary or brief mentions. The only source that seemed it might be secondary SIGCOV is ProQuest  308904716, an 26 August 2003 piece by The Bangkok Post titled "Building bridges" but only the abstract is available. S0091 ( talk) 16:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Abdullah Gohar

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Little evidence of NPROF: citation record is wholly inadequate, and student awards don't count for much. There is some human-interest type coverage in conjunction with an ancient whale he was involved in studying, but I think that it is at best a WP:BLP1E, with coverage all around Aug/Sep 2023. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 15:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

also should delete based on WP:NOTRESUME User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. "pursuing a Ph.D. ... at Oklahoma State University", so he's not there yet. Maybe some time in the future. Athel cb ( talk) 16:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'll add a comment here, though I still think it's too soon. In some countries (Chile, for example, which I know far better than I know Egypt) it's not unusual to advance a long way in one's research career, and even acquire an international reputation, well before finishing one's doctorate. Getting a doctorate takes a long time, because unless one comes from a wealthy family one needs to work almost full-time as a university teacher at the same time. I don't know how much, if at all, that applies to Abdullah Gohar. Athel cb ( talk) 09:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: How notable are the awards listed? Oaktree b ( talk) 19:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Not very. They are discussed here [3]. One is for "Student fieldwork in vertebrate paleontology", the other "To enable scientists from economically developing nations to present research at the SVP Annual Meeting". Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 21:05, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- Athel cb's comments are very important to take into account. (in music, a lot of significant performers get their doctorates much later when they are financially secure enough to take the time off after their careers have already passed a notability stage), but typically the recognition of prior work + recent studies pays off in the form of indepedent coverage, and I'm not seeing it here. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 10:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:PROF - thesis was less than 3 years ago - and WP:TOOSOON applies. Bearian ( talk) 14:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I'm skeptical of why? What is WP:NPROF if the individual's research has appeared on a notable coverage which i can see through ABC news. I don't know how notable is the award, but it seems to be from a notable academy or institution which meets the policies and guidelines. Though it looks like TOOSOON, do deletion appy here? Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 07:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Pierre Gervois

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Pretty random artist; article authored by a suspected paid editor. Biruitorul Talk 15:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete: in general sources of WP:YOUTUBE are not notable and usable except under specific criteria. most sources are not independent of author. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I found one detailed source about the subject:
    1. Sawyer, Matthew Lee (2022). Make It in America: How International Companies and Entrepreneurs Can Successfully Enter and Scale in U.S. Markets. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. pp. 55–56. ISBN  978-1-119-88514-6. Retrieved 2024-04-13 – via Google Books.

      The book provides 664 words of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "Pierre Gervois is an artist, author, teacher, and entrepreneur. He grew up in a conservative, traditional French family in Paris. When Pierre told his parents that he wanted to study modern art, they insisted he pursue a more predictable career in business, law, or engineering. He followed their wishes, earning a master's degree in political science and constitutional law at Institut d'Etudes Politiques de Paris. Unknown to them, though, during those years he also created 500 paintings and drawings."

      The book notes: "In addition to his entrepreneurial venture, Pierre rekindled his passion for art. With downtime during the 2020 pandemic, he created a website to show his paintings, drawings, and digital artwork. Within six weeks, he sold five pieces. The website also caught the attention of a New York City art gallery that wanted to exhibit his work."

    If there was one more good source, then Pierre Gervois would meet the notability guideline. The other sources I found were passing mentions or quotes from him in the media.

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Mikko Kärkkäinen

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The article on this guy’s company, RELEX Solutions, just got speedily deleted as spam. The article’s author is a suspected paid editor. I think I know where this is headed. Biruitorul Talk 15:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete fails WP:GNG. I think CharlesBNB should be blocked for undeclared paid editing

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Bed Kingdom

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Pretty random company; article authored by a suspected paid editor. Biruitorul Talk 14:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Neeraj Tripathi

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOLITICIAN too soon. Theroadislong ( talk) 14:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Then please add them to the article! Theroadislong ( talk) 08:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. A possible merge target, if applicable, can be discussed on the article's Talk page. Owen× 20:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of French loanwords in Persian

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Ehrmagerd, werds! As interesting as I find this, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. PepperBeast (talk) 12:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep: In general, same reasons as Mccapra. This article's intro could be improved, like List of loanwords in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic.
Also, comment, but we've nominated a ton of these type of "Loan words" articles for deletion today.
it seems that we are having a discussion about a large swathe of articles across multiple deletion discussion, and we should instead focus on maybe a broader discussion of these? User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 18:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Lists of abbreviations used on British Empire World War I medals

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This contains potential copyright violations, it is not adequately sourced, it provides more ambiguity than guidance, lack of provenance Keith H99 ( talk) 12:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I had some challenges with the nomination, so I may have inadvertently nominated it more than once. That I can tell, it's an article that not been nominated prior to today, and has been generally ignored. The Article is a long list that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, for each and every item. This duplicates content from other sites, or hosts POV on interpretation, and is best consigned to the trash can, as I perceive it. Keith H99 ( talk) 12:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The incorrect information in the article prompted me to take a look at the Silver War Badge article. This needed reworking, which has been done. That article could be corrected, I fail to see that as plausible for this article, hence nomination for deletion. Keith H99 ( talk) 16:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete There is a single usable reference in this article, to the National Archives [4], and that content sensibly is not quoted or summarized (because it can't be). This reference could be included with a single sentence at Awards and decorations of the British Armed Forces. All the rest of the article is unsourced, and probably would violate WP:NOTCATALOG if it were sourced by just replicating a complete list of unannotated items found in the original. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 06:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Clear violation of WP:NOT. Whether this is a directory or extract from the table of a textbook, it is not an encyclopaedic article. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 07:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. plicit 14:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Giuseppe Zappella

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 13:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Italy. Joeykai ( talk) 13:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep he is literally the current head coach of Juventus FC (women) [5], and a quick Google search returns plenty of articles about him. I recommend expanding and sourcing it instead, as the subject is clearly notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Angelo ( talk) 15:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep - Per above. Current manager of high profile team with ongoing career and had extensive pro career in pre internet era. I found [6], [7], and [8] among many more Italian sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 19:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per sources above which show notability. Clearly notable as both player and coach. Lazy nomination where no BEFORE has been performed. My Google search has this as the 3rd hit, which would have shown the nominator (had they bothered) that the article was simply in need of an update and clean. Giant Snowman 21:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment 12 lines in the lasentinella is not SIGCOV, calciogiappone.altervista.org is a blog and "Museo Grigio is an independent, non-political and non-profit association and aims to support, disseminate and promote the image of Alessandria Unione Sportiva, its culture, its history and its fans." Hardly unbiased. juventus.com is his employer and therefore non independent. Dougal18 ( talk) 10:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. After discussion rough consensus developed that the sourcing failed WP:NCORP and associated subguidelines. This is a case in which I found the delete arguments as whole to be more policy compliant. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 14:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

5ire

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Fails WP:NCORP, no significant coverage from independent sources. The coverage is routine coverage of funding ( WP:ORGTRIV), reprints of partnership announcements ( WP:ORGIND), or "best startup" type awards that don't convey inherent notability. ~ A412 talk! 09:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep Let's delve into the article's content before we explore the sources. The focus here is on the company's collaborations. Based on the information, as outlined in the sources, their core mission is to provide blockchain-based services. This focus on partnerships makes sense – the involvement of notable private and public organizations lends significant weight to the company's work. National and international collaborations can elevate the importance of a project and showcasing its potential. To my mind, focusing solely on the company's internal mechanisms might come across as promotional rather than informative. For example, titles for this company were used by the media, which in my opinion might make the article out of the encyclopedia mode, such as 'Sustainability-Focused Unicorn', 'India's 'fastest-growing blockchain unicorn', 'Green revolution with 5ire blockchain', or 'HOW 5IRE IS BUILDING A SUSTAINABILITY-FOCUSSED LAYER 1 BLOCKCHAIN ECOSYSTEM' and etc. The centrality of collaborations to the company's mission is why the article focuses heavily on these key partnerships. After its token was listed, this article became the target of repeated attacks. The content was constantly edited, sometimes deleted entirely, and sometimes filled with irrelevant ads to be tagged for issues. Sources that I added recentlly ( [9], [10], [11]) + other source in article, discuss a different aspect of the company, focusing on its internal workings (mechanism and performance) rather than its collaborations. The extensive coverage surrounding this company is likely due to its rapid growth. Established in 2021, it became a unicorn company in 2022. However, the sources identified, focus significantly on the company. In my judgment, informed by the articles I've created and edited, this article meets Wikipedia's Notability Guideline ( WP:GNG) requirements. YaseroSari ( talk) 13:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I was hoping this one would just go as an expired PROD because although I don't think it is notable, I don't think it is nothing either. A very young company that has managed to secure significant seed funding, it may well become notable, and it is probably just WP:TOOSOON. Anyway, now there is a keep vote, let's look at these sources. The relevant guideline is WP:NCORP and so sources must meet WP:SIRS (although, actually, all GNG sources should meet that. But that is moot). The thing to note here about these three sources, and all the article sourcing, is that it is reliant on WP:PRIMARY sources (pay attention to note d in the policy). These are news sources telling us about how they have secured $100 million funding, and also telling us about the stock market valuation - which is high, but we have seen that before in tech companies, many of which only became notable when they crashed and burned. Reporting the funding and valuation, no matter how many sources do it, is still news reporting, and WP:PRIMARYNEWS is a useful guideline to consider on that score. To look at this another way: what exactly are 5ire doing that is notable? What can be said about this company in the article? Note that the lead of the article currently only really tells us that they are notable for having secured money and a big paper valuation. I'd be content with a redirect if a suitable target were known. I don't think there is an article to be found here yet, and the sources do not meet SIRS, and so this is not notable for an article. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 14:03, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I voted to keep it, but I do have some reservations about YaseroSari's idea that I'd like to discuss further. I do not accept this: focusing solely on the company's internal mechanisms might come across as promotional rather than informative, You can focus on the company's core strengths and fundamentals by keeping the tone neutral. Even this move helps to prove the subject's notability. Anyway, I think an article focusing on the company's foundation and services would have been more informative. I also disagree with Sirfurboy, that stated what exactly are 5ire doing that is notable? What can be said about this company in the article? The Partnerships section of this article explains exactly what services this company provides. If this part was written better, it would specify the services of this company more clearly. If this company does not provide a efficient services, why should these organizations, which are considered notable, cooperate with this emerging company? This explanation of mine is not to prove the notability of this company by their partnerships, but to prove that this company provides services that they need. The source of each collaboration states the reason for it and what service they used and aslo more collaborations can be found on Google. It needs to be rewritten to highlight its services and base, not to be deleted. Dejaqo ( talk) 01:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    The partnership section shows what they are doing, but not what they are doing that is notable. It would be the section to focus on though. Do we have WP:SIRS sources discussing a notable product/output? Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep This Indian company's rapid ascent has caught the eye of both domestic media within a year and even some Arabic sources, likely due to its Dubai headquarters. A quick Google search turns up a wealth of information, including articles. Finding three sources to show WP:GNG, shouldn't be too much trouble· Gedaali ( talk) 08:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    This is a bit frustrating. This argument is WP:MUSTBESOURCES. The relevant guidelines here are WP:NCORP and we are looking for sources that meet WP:CORPDEPTH. AfD is not a vote, and the time to actually find the sources and discuss them is now. I am not adamantly against this page existing. But what sources exist that show this is notable as a company, and not just a startup with a big valuation? If we can't answer that question, we should not be voting. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 09:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
In my experience, three well-chosen sources usually suffice to establish notability WP:NCORP. My comment was to check if the current sources in the article would be enough, as I noticed from the edit history that some unacceptable sources were removed. This company has been making headlines for three reasons: first, it achieved unicorn status. Second, its token was listed on exchanges. Third, its collaborations have garnered a lot of media attention. About the first, as I red, you believe its WP:TOOSOON. In the second case, you would raised a concern that the sources might be too specific to cryptocurrency. In the third case, you clearly rejected it. I bring again some of the sources that I think meet the criteria. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and... . This article has potential, but I think there might be ways to strengthen it. Gedaali ( talk) 11:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
In my experience, three well-chosen sources usually suffice to establish notability WP:NCORP. But your experience is limited by the fact that you have only ever commented on AfDs today. Moreover, rather than giving 3 well chosen sources, you pasted in 8. Source 3 does not mention 5ire, and 3 of these are all from the Economic Times so count as one. They are also not the fruit of new searches but sources already on the page, so already considered. I can put together a source analysis table, but which of these do you actually think are secondary sources that meet WP:CORPDEPTH? Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 13:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I looked through the sources provided, and I think the Economic Times source actually has analysis, but in general, the rest of the provided sources fall short on significant coverage, basically reprinting the funding announcement of "5ire raised money on a 1b+ valuation, here's what they said they're doing with it". ~ A412 talk! 17:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment Sourcing. No answer to my query above asking for which of those 8 sources meet CORPDEPTH, so I have analysed them all. As I say, 3 of them are from the Economic Times and count as one. That is moot too because only one of the Economic Times articles has anything substantive. My analysis lacks some work I did not check the reliability of sources that failed on other criteria. My feeling is they all look reliable, but appearances can be deceptive. I also did not check the independence, which will be affected if we find a press release or evidence of a press release that they are written off. My analysis is my own, and I am happy to discuss any points made. Here is the table:
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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
Economic Times [12] [13] [14] Yes Yes Indian financial paper, part of the Times of India group. There are three links, the second has no coverage and the third is not significant, just reporting, along with others, the high valuation. It is the first of these that goes beyond that. Note that the first is also occasioned by the same issue - the valuation - but it leads the writer to dig out additional history and analysis and is significant and useful. The piece raises queries about the high valuation as no product is yet released. Note that my evaluation is based only on what I can see in preview as the content is paywalled and when I attempted to pay it told me that readers in Europe and California are prevented from making payments for their content. This is an Indian news source but I have no access to the content. However, my evaluation of the depth is based on the claim it is a 10 minute read, suggesting 1000-1500 words. Coupled with what I see, I believe this is significant analysis, but I could, in fact, be wrong. ETA, in light of the analysis below by Highking, I am unable to refute that analysis as I have not read the full text and cannot read it. I would have paid, but the content is geographocally restricted. I cannot therefore verify my view and could well be wrong. I am updating this to unkown. 17 April 16:28 Yes
Tech in Asia [15] Yes Probably reliable, I just haven't checked. No "And that brings us to today’s two-part Big Story. 5ire, a blockchain company that few had ever heard of a year ago, rocketed to unicorn status in July. On closer inspection, the deal seems doubtful, given it hasn’t yet launched a product or gotten significant traction." Yes It is occasioned by news but the quoted paragraph, just about all it says on 5ire, is analysis. Extremely brief analysis.
inc 42 [16] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Partial. Inasmuch as it is news reporting, it is a primary source.
Business Standard [17] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Partial. Inasmuch as it is news reporting, it is a primary source.
Money Control [18] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Report of becoming unicorn. Primary news reporting
Mint [19] Is this off the back of a press release? Unclear. If this is Mintpress news, then this is no. Mintpress news are a deprecated source. But I think they may be different. No There is some information about 5ire but does not meet CORPDEPTH. It is all company supplied history and no analysis. No Report of acquisition of a stake in Network Capital. This is primary news reporting.
My summary: we have one source counting towards notability, but sources must be multiple. We are not there yet. I also note the source that points out lack of any products. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I see a couple of issues with your analysis. The Tech in Asia article seems quite significant. With over ten paragraphs, and repeated mentions of 5ire (10 times), it appears to offer a detailed exploration of the topic. Why wouldn't you consider it significant? Do you consider it as a "passing mention"? I did not see this website among the unreliable news websites that you doubt its reliability. Also there are two other sources from same website, The convicted fraudster backing 5ire, ‘India’s 105th unicorn’ and 5ire investors angry over delay on promised refunds. CEO blames mystery fund. Regarding the second source of the Economic Times, reference number 4 and 5 are essentially the same and the problem is presented in the link. Anyway, 5ire wins the AIBC 2022 'Social Impact Project of the Year' award, this article looks like it covers the subject quite significantly. In my opinion, this article meets the WP:GNG because of the significant coverage it receives from reliable sources, as evidenced by the WP:SIGCOV. Also, I'm not sure about reliability and independence of Blockchain Unicorn 5ire Unveils a New Approach Towards Sustainability Pratik Gauri, CEO - 5ire, please check it out. Gedaali ( talk) 16:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
You are commenting on an NCORP AfD. So I have repeatedly mentioned WP:CORPDEPTH. This is the relevant test for significant coverage:

Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization.

You are new to AfD, and very welcome here, but I think you are missing something here. Not surprising. NCORP AfDs have a lot to consider. But what have we got about this company that allows us to write more than a stub that tells us it has a big valuation? What notable thing does it do? The sources considered above indicate a lack of product, so it is not just this AfD asking that question. That last one you just asked me to look at purports to answer the question, but it doesn't. All it tells us is that it is a proof of stake blockchain. Sorry... a sustainable proof of stake blockchain. Whatever that means. I mean... all proof of stake is eminently more sustainable than proof of work. But How is that notable? I suppose it may become notable if people start using it. But it isn't yet. But then, you might say that at least that source is telling us about a product. Except it is telling us about a product in 5ire's words with 5ire's diagrams and 5ire's examples. That piece is clearly not independent. So nope, we can't use that. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 18:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate the clarification. I think your last explanation was about Outlook, perhaps we discuss that another time, but for now. About 3 sources of Tech in Asia and 2 of The Economic Times ( 1, 2), based on the definitions in WP:CORPDEPTH and their absence in Examples of trivial coverage consider them as significant coverage. You asked about this company's product. Going back to the above comments posted by others. This company has a track record of providing service. I do not expect physical product/service from this company. Their collaborations are focused on delivering service, not on promoting each other or their own agendas. For example their collaboration with Goa Police was in order to digitize its operations and utilization of paperless document by using blockchain technology ( 3) and also delivered other services in their other collaborations. This company's product are its services. About its service delivery, I think it has been discussed enough here service delivery.Here is my analysis of several sources: Gedaali ( talk) 05:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
This company has a track record of providing service. No it doesn't. The example you cite is a Memorandum of Understanding to assist Goa police with something that is, in any case, unrelated to the blockchain. It is an MoU. They haven't done anything yet. This all looks like press release and vapourware. To be honest, at this point I am concerned this looks like an investor scam and we are being made participants in it. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 07:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
After reviewing all the comments that have been posted in this discussion so far, evidences and clues, I agree with you. Delete. Gedaali ( talk) 19:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
Economic Times [20] Yes Yes Yes Yes
Economic Times [21] Yes Yes Yes This article refers to the award of this company, but it also deals with other issues Yes
Tech in Asia [22] Yes Yes Yes I checked this from WP:CORPDEPTH and the entire article consists of more than ten paragraphs focusing on the company Yes
Tech in Asia [23] Yes Yes Yes Yes

For now, these 4 cases are enough for analysis. Gedaali ( talk) 05:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The question (as with many of these crypto articles...) seems to be whether the alleged fraud has generated enough in-depth coverage to merit inclusion. Citing ( talk) 15:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Reply to second table I have already explained to you that you should aggregate multiple sources from the same publisher. For notability purposes, sources must be unrelated to each other to be "multiple". per WP:MULTSOURCES. So your table simply repeats Economic Times that I felt did meet SIRS, and disagrees with my analysis on Tech in Asia based on a paragraph count rather than the content. The content on the first link to Tech in Asia does not meet CORPDEPTH, but I don't think you can have read that site very well because the 10 paragraphs are nothing much, but there are links in the article to two longer articles, which, along with your link [15], paint a picture that might suggest possible fraud. If there is a notable subject here, it is not the company itself, which doesn't seem to do anything at all. It is about a possible fraud. Citing also notices this in the comment above. Are we WP:TOOSOON for an article about the alleged fraud? Or could we be looking at renaming this article and repurposing based on reliable secondary coverage of alleged fraud? Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 07:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I am just going to expand on my view that there is no product here, because checking the crypto exchanges, you can actually buy 5irechain tokens [24] as of last December. Hopefully you didn't, as the price is falling... but meh, it's crypto. However that token would suggest there is a blockchain product. Except there isn't. Here is an announcement for what you can buy: [25]. This is an ERC-20 token which uses the Ethereum blockchain. So we still don't have any actual blockchain, and what we have is just another cryptocurrency token. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 10:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
this has no byline, neither does this which indicates NEWSORGINDIA. You will notice that second one starts with location which is classic press-release style confirming churnalism. For this and this are from a publication that does not appear to have editorial oversight. Not to mention the writer is a freelancer journalist who writes for many different publications. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 20:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is a company therefore GNG/ WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. In plain English, this means that references cannot rely *only* on information provided by the company - such as articles that rely entirely on quotations, press releases, announcements, interviews, website information, etc - even when slightly modified. If it isn't *clearly* showing independent content then it fails ORGIND. Looking at the references which other editors claim to pass GNG/NCORP in their analysis tables above:
    • TechInAsia Article 1 has insufficient in-depth information on the company from a source unaffiliated with the company, fails WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND
    • TechInAsia Article 2 ais commenting on the same story as Article 1, is little more than a gossip column but more importantly, has zero in-depth information about the company, also fails CORPDEPTH
    • Article 3 and Article 4 from TechInAsia also both fail for the same reason, there is insufficient in-depth information about the company.
    • There are a couple of articles in the Economic Times. This one is a puff profile based entirely on information provided by the company and their execs after their funding announcement, fails ORGIND and CORPDEPTH. This one also appears to rely entirely on information originating from the company or people connected with the company or investors. Fails CORPEPTH and ORGIND.
    • This from Inc42 is based entirely on an interview and information provided by the company, fails ORGIND
    • This in the Business Standard is also regurgitating information provided by the company in an announcement, fails ORGIND
    • This from MoneyControl fails for the same reason
    • This in Livemint is just one of many many article on this date regurgitating the company announcement. You can see a list of other articles on Crunchbase following the announcement. Fails ORGIND
None of the references meet GNG/ WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. It is a pity the source assessment table doesn't include a column for WP:CORPDEPTH and one for WP:ORGIND, it would make it easier to show why references fail GNG/NCORP. HighKing ++ 11:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • KEEP : after reading the article and checking with references I’ve removed some of the unreferenced content but company seems to be value adding in blockchain references are reliable NCORP is passed. Having multiple ref yet its not indepth I’m gonna leave it to the admin. HarryD ( talk) 20:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Having multiple ref yet its not indepth - That is not an NCORP pass. if a reference does not have significant coverage, it does not count towards notability. You can't aggregate lots of passing mentions. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 20:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Okay Understood. HarryD ( talk) 20:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep & Comment Indian company with 1 billion valuation which means unicorn since I can’t find any guideline for unicorn startups having an article here, but definitely seems notable to me in general though the article is unnecessarily at start class or more, only facts needs to be added. For me its a KEEP Because High value startup and has quiet a lot media presence other than just paid pieces. AnkkAnkur ( talk) 21:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC) AnkkAnkur ( talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
    Yes, I’ve just started, was learning over the months understanding the policies when to add vote etc. its my favourite area now so my vote will not be considered? I’ve voted in other discussions as well :/ AnkkAnkur ( talk) 21:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    How have you been learning over the months without hands-on experience editing Wikipedia? If you have edited using an IP previously, please disclose the same in your user page and the areas where you have previously edited. Doing so will prevent other editors from assuming you are a single-purpose account. Either way, this conversation should continue on your talk page. Jeraxmoira🐉 ( talk) 21:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The available sources do not appear to meet any notability guideline currently in use on English Wikipedia, as opposed to colloquial definitions of the word. Alpha3031 ( tc) 11:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - These references all fall short of WP:ORGCRIT which is a requirement to meet to establish notability for companies. Every one of these publications allows pay-for-play and based on the bylines some of the clearly fall in that category. Add on WP:NEWSORGINDIA and I cannot find a single in-depth source that could be considered for notability. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 20:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Crypto fluff. Nearly every keep !voter has relatively few edits. I generally agree with Sirfurboy's source table but I would discount The Economic Times entirely as it is part of The Times of India, which is known to accept coverage for pay. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Lyle Adams

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 13:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep‎. plicit 14:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Antonio Susini (baseball)

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Gergő Máté

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Máté played 67 mins of professional football then completely disappeared. I can't even find evidence of any statistical coverage of an amateur career. The best that I could find were Nemzeti Sport and Rangadó, both being trivial mentions and far from WP:SIGCOV. Also per WP:SPORTBASIC, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Szabolcs Horváth

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Played in 2 matches 15 years ago but has only played in the lower tiers since and does not seem to have any WP:SIGCOV. The best that I could find in Hungarian sources were HEOL, Rangadó and Nemzeti Sport, none of which are even close to being in-depth coverage. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Firside Junior School

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Fails GNG and NORG. Sources in article and BEFORE did not support notability. Found routine mill news, database records, etc, nothing establishing notability.

Being the "is the closest junior school in the United Kingdom to an airport" is not a basis for notability.  //  Timothy ::  talk  11:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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    Delete: nothing meeting WP:GNG User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hi, this is my first article, and, after reviewing your note, I agree that this article does not meet standards. Please proceed with the deletion. sledger ( talk) 20:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - It is a commendable good faith effort from a new user, but there is no claim to notability. I would support a redirect if there were a suitable target, but I don't see one. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep‎. Procedural close, this is a redirect not an article. It needs to be nominated at WP:RFD. Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Bharatiya Janata Party, Mrghalaya

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It's a typing error. Title doesn't make any sense. — Hemant Dabral ( 📞) 11:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. Mojo Hand ( talk) 13:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Brian Grosz

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The article doesn't cite any sources (only linking the subject's MySpace profile and a music project's website) and I was unable to find significant coverage. There's an interview with the Dogs of Winter where Grosz speaks for the band, but interviews don't contribute to notability. Grosz is, of course, mentioned at least a few times on the website of the college he went to ( Vassar College), but that's not really anything either. I don't see an alternative to deletion. This is the page creator's only article, and it was previously speedy-deleted. toweli ( talk) 11:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Krankschaft

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Unreferenced article since 2012. Being the backing band of someone with a Wikipedia page and having members with Wikipedia pages does not make this band notable as notability is not inherited. A look online for significant coverage doesn't yield much - a post on jericsmith.com is a self-published blog, and I'm unable to find anything else substantial. InDimensional ( talk) 11:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. plicit 11:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

RYNA

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Nothing of notability in the article, a single TV appearance isn't enough for WP:BAND criteria. One member was in another band of notability, however notability is not inherited. A look online brings up no coverage whatsoever. InDimensional ( talk) 11:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. plicit 11:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Scarlet Carmina

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Only notability is having a song featured on a DVD release, they seem to not pass WP:BAND. Both references in the article are from very local news sources, and an online search brings up no additional coverage. InDimensional ( talk) 11:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The Reelers

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Unsourced since 2011, some moderate achievements in the lead section but not sure if enough to pass WP:BAND. A search on the web for references brings up nothing on them, even when including band members names into the search. InDimensional ( talk) 11:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete I have found a reference that verifies the live session on BBC London, and added it to the article. Apart from that I've come up empty; even the claim to have played Glastonbury is debunked as they don't appear on the listings. Seems like a promising group that has now disappeared. Unfortunately I just don't see a page being justified given WP:MUSICBIO guidelines. Resonant Distortion 19:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was Speedy keep. WP:SNOW. ( non-admin closure)GRuban ( talk) 13:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Russell Bentley

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This individual is of little notability. Barely covered in any media. He only recently resurfaced due to being missing. Definitely does not deserve his own article. BeŻet ( talk) 10:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep, given more than 3 independent sources, all national newspapers or news sources, over a period of time (2015 to 2022), having him as the primary (or one of the primary) subjects of the articles; reaches WP:NBASIC. Klbrain ( talk) 12:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Definitely notable, I found his name in Russian press and started googling. Lots of coverage. Tiphareth ( talk) 16:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, per above. Providing one more additional link btw. [31] PoisonHK Sapiens dominabitur astris 10:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, people have short memories but Bentley received a lot of coverage in 2014 when he first went to fight with the separatists. He was interviewed at the time by Vice and Newsweek. He has not only just become of interest due to reports of his alleged disappearance. -- Katangais (talk) 16:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, He is now reported mudered. I looked up this article when I saw a report of his death PeterNimmo ( talk) 16:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep, He has been a subject of interest many times since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine in 2014. 2600:1007:B037:10F5:1556:E6F3:9C9A:6781 ( talk) 19:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, per Klbrain and Katangais. Multiple, independent reliable sources over a period of time should demonstrate notability. ⁂CountHacker ( talk) 20:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was merge‎ to CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. plicit 14:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of episodic appearances in CID

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Everything mentioned here (and more) is (or can be) covered in CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. Recommend redirect. - MPGuy2824 ( talk) 09:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Please give me 2 days of time so that I can add a long list of names so that this article is independent enough. Please don't delete this article. 103.87.143.74 ( talk) 05:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Please read WP:NLIST and add enough applicable references that discuss the list (and not just the list entries). AfDs last for a week at minimum, so you have lots of time. - MPGuy2824 ( talk) 06:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Desertarun ( talk) 16:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Intercontinental Hotel Bali

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep ( talk) 09:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Sarangapany, Veda (2011-05-29). "Warming to the Bali buzz". The Sydney Morning Herald. ProQuest  869129621. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "I decide to celebrate with breakfast; there are three restaurants - Bella Singaraja, Jimbaran Gardens and KO - as well as poolside service. The scrambled eggs are light and fluffy and the coffee is good. I wish I could fit in more. Tomorrow morning, perhaps. Next stop is the Club InterContinental pool. I don't have far to go and there are plenty of lounges or, if you want some privacy, you can stake your claim on a bungalow. I can see Jimbaran Bay from the pool and know I should drag myself off my lounger to check it out."

    2. McCabe, Christine (2009-03-07). "The butler did it - Asian Holidays". The Australian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The Imperial is the flagship of a premium collection of rooms at InterContinental Bali, including five categories of suites designed to replicate the villa experience that has become so popular on this Indonesian holiday island. These suites are located within Club InterContinental, a collection of 110 elegant rooms that operates as a hotel within a hotel supporting its own management, housekeeping and engineering teams. ... The new-look guestroom decor (the hotel was renovated last year) features indigenous timbers and batiks, gorgeous marble bathrooms, flat-screen tellies and all the latest whiz-bangery. The value-added nature of the club is popular with Australian travellers; it's excellent for families, given the free kids' club, beachfront locale and enormous complex of swimming pools. But the resort is just as delightful for couples, who can enjoy the privacy of the Club wing."

    3. Rosenfeld, Kelly (2024-02-29). "Review: InterContinental Bali Resort". TravelAge West. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "Originally opened in 1993, InterContinental Bali was one of the first luxury properties built on the coastline of Jimbaran Bay (in southern Bali), a stunning stretch of clean, white-sand beach that hotel guests have direct access to from the resort grounds. ... A guestroom renovation project took place from 2017 to 2019 and was followed by a second phase that updated public areas, including its multiple pools, restaurants, the lobby and the ballroom, which was transformed into meeting space in 2022. During my stay, the main Nirvana pool was also undergoing a since-completed refresh to be in tip-top shape for the coming high season."

    4. Smiedt, David (2022-11-30). "We stayed at… Intercontinental Bali. Fresh from a million dollar refurb, this grand old dame of the Bali hotel scene has rediscovered her sparkle". Escape. Nationwide News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The property is immaculate - so much so it feels cleverly art directed - with traditional style fountains, bridges and so many pools and koi ponds that we stopped counting after a bit. As far as facilities and activities go, the Planet Trekkers kids club has a distinct eco focus, there's a Technogym laden fitness centre, tennis courts, yoga, kite making and bike tours of the local markets."

    5. Fordham, James (2018-08-20). "Review: InterContinental Bali, Jimbaran". Executive Traveller. Business Travel Media. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The resort itself is a large property stretching all the way down to Jimbaran Beach. With six pools, multiple restaurants and expansive immaculately manicured gardens it can take a little while to get your bearings, but friendly staff are always nearby should you need assistance. In the notoriously high turnover hospitality industry, I met several staff that had worked there since the resort opened in 1993 - after 25 years of working there, these staff were still passionate, friendly, knowledgeable and service-driven, which was a pleasant surprise."

    6. "travel42 Hotel Review: InterContinental Resort Bali". Travel Weekly. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The InterContinental Resort looks out across Jimbaran Bay to the distant airport. This means that the ride to the property is much shorter than to Nusa Dua or Ubud, making it popular with shorter-stay or late night-arriving guests. Its architecture was designed to honor the sacred axis between the mountain and sea. In a recent makeover, decorators followed the tri hita karana principle that balances the ideals of God, nature, and humanity."

    7. McCabe, Christine (2007-08-11). "Stay and Play - Family Holidays". The Australian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "On Bali's Jimbaran Bay, the glamorous InterContinental Bali Resort operates one of the best children's clubs on the island. Dubbed Club J, this extensive facility functions as a resort within a resort replete with large airconditioned clubhouse, outdoor swimming pool, climbing frame, mini basketball compound and a popular internet cave."

    8. Lees, Rachel (2023-06-22). "10 tropical family resorts to blow your mind". Escape. Nationwide News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "A luxurious take on a traditional Balinese fishing village, the 430-room InterContinental Bali Resort in Jimbaran has all the mod cons you’d expect of a five-star hotel. But the resort’s activities, a deep-dive into Balinese culture, make it a standout. Families can learn traditional net fishing and kite-making, and when the grown-ups need a break, the Planet Trekkers kids’ club instructs four- to 12-year-olds in Balinese dance, Bahasa language and the art of preparing traditional Balinese offerings. There’s also a professional nanny service for children under four. "

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Intercontinental Hotel Bali to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard ( talk) 10:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep Notable hotel with plenty of potential sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. All the references provided above are essentially reviews from past customers, and I don't consider reviews from past customers to be a reliable source due to their lack of editorial oversight, IMO they should be regarded as user generated content WP:USERGENERATED. Additionally, I couldn't find any sources about this hotel that are not past reviews or coming from travel agencies (such as Expedia, etc.), hence it fails significant coverage requirement. Ckfasdf ( talk) 12:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Clearly notable. Cunard has dug up plenty of reliable, independent, in-depth discussions of the hotel, which could be used for an extensive article. It would be surprising if a hotel of this size and calibre had not been noted. Aymatth2 ( talk) 12:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 ( talk) 16:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. PhantomSteve/ talk¦ contribs\ 10:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Club Med Ria Bintan

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep ( talk) 08:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep Appropriately sourced, meets requirements.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Hotels reply
  • Keep. Well sourced and clearly notable. Aymatth2 ( talk) 13:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 ( talk) 13:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 08:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Mayang Sari Beach Resort

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep ( talk) 08:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete, no independent source provided. Neocorelight ( Talk) 03:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 ( talk) 13:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I pumped the article up a bit. There are plenty of sources, including various books, unfortunately mostly just in snippet view. Aymatth2 ( talk) 14:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Notable beach resort...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 08:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Moderate nationalism

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The content of this article seems to be a WP:REDUNDANTFORK that entirely overlaps with information already on the Civic nationalism page. Is there any appetite for deletion on this, or perhaps any other, basis? Yr Enw ( talk) 08:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus‎. CBE meets weak sourcing. No indication a 3rd relist would change the split here. Star Mississippi 01:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Leslie Butterfield

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of WP:notability under SNG or GNG. Basically a promotional -resume. The lead just says that he is a British brand and communications expert.

The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source.

Some concern that the creator has 28 lifetime edits, all on this article. Article was tagged for UPE concern by somebody else and the tag was quickly removed by an IP. The IP that removed it has 2 lifetime edits...one removing the tag and the other putting a link at another article to this article. North8000 ( talk) 03:18, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Actually, looking at it again, I think it's obvious that there's an undeclared COI here and I'm going to tag the article accordingly. 07:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Dozens every year in a country of 67 million is not many! These are highly prestigious honours. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
While I think that wp:notability does unofficially take real world notability into account a bit, for biographies the core of it is about available of GNG sources from which to build an article. As I noted in the nomination "The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source. " Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 15:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Neutral - I added the Authority control template at the bottom of the article. For what it's worth, that did kick up VIAF hits in multiple languages that show his woks are in various international libraries. Seems to me that makes him notable. — Maile ( talk) 14:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Changing to Neutral. I am not British. and not knowledgeable on the subject matter. — Maile ( talk) 15:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Dialdirect

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Cannot find any sources proving notable, other than advertising. Not to be confused with the UK company "Dial Direct". GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 05:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: Amount of failed verifications makes me wonder if aside from the from the company existing, the rest of the article is fictitious. -- D'n'B- t -- 10:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The Defiant (band)

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A newly created band consisting of notable members fails to establish independent notability. I tried, but couldn't find significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. A Google News search yielded some sources, but they mostly consist of passing mentions or routine coverage. IMO, it fails to meet the criteria outlined in WP:NBAND and is a possible case of WP:NOTINHERITED. GSS💬 07:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep meets WP:BAND#C6, coverage in the Boston Globe and Phoenix New Times. Mach61 08:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I doubt these sources discuss the band in detail; rather, they likely provide routine coverage. GSS💬 08:45, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ GSS why are you writing this as if you haven't actually read the linked articles Mach61 17:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    That's your assumption; nothing else. Could you explain how the sources you mentioned above satisfy WP:INDEPTH? GSS💬 17:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ GSS The New Times piece is over 1000 words long Tangential:INDEPTH links to WP:Notability (events), which is obviously not applicable in this case. Perhaps you caught a case of WP:UPPERCASE? Mach61 18:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    ⁤I agree that the article is lengthy, but it seems to lack sufficient independent focus on the band itself. ⁤⁤Throughout this article, the band's name is mentioned only five times, excluding the title and image description, and often in passing. ⁤⁤It's quite normal to receive such attention in the media when the subject is linked to notable people. ⁤⁤However, as of now, since the band was formed, it hasn't achieved anything notable. ⁤⁤They have released a few single and only one album, and that too on a non-notable label. ⁤⁤While the band has garnered some attention because of its notable founding members, this doesn't establish independent notability. Therefore, I would say it's too soon for an independent article until the band becomes independently notable. GSS💬 04:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ GSS Your statement that Throughout this article, the band's name is mentioned only five times, excluding the title and image description, and often in passing} is nonsensical, the term "passing mention" refers to coverage 1-2 sentences long in an article. Obviously, an article about the band is not a passing mention of them.
    Your statement that the band hasn't "achieved" anything notable is just an opinion; I've already shown two sources covering them in detail Mach61 23:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Meets WP:NMUSIC#6 and #12 (featured on Jimmy Kimmel Live). I don't think the Boston Globe article meets SIGCOV because it only really states the band has formed and the members; the rest of it is about Barrett and the Bosstone's. However, the Phoenix New Times does meet SIGCOV with a nice overview of their debut album which in combination with the other criteria, gets it over the hump for me. S0091 ( talk) 15:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 00:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Rayyanza Malik Ahmad

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Another case of WP:INVALIDBIO. Child's notability is solely attributed to their parent, and it's highly unlikely for a two-year-old to have achieved notable accomplishments. Ckfasdf ( talk) 09:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep‎. plicit 00:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of loanwords in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

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Ehrmagerd, werds! As interesting as I find this, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. PepperBeast (talk) 12:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep: the introduction is clearly not a dictionary. the list defines some words but is mostly serving the functions of a list. should be fine enough as is to keep that too User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and this article is not a dictionary entry. I don't know what gave the nom the idea that articles about linguistics and etymology are somehow not encyclopedic, prompting them to launch their current "Ehrmagerd, werds!" deletion campaign. Owen× 14:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Does not read like a dictionary entry, it is a list – and a quality one at that. ~ Dictionary ( talk) 15:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

MontageJS

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Currently unreferenced save for an arstechnica piece written by the creators of the framework. Searches on Google result in either Yellowpages-style listings or Githubs. Books return in trivial mentions in author biographies. The fact that the author was SPA on this topic does not help. For these reasons I believe it fails GNG. Good day— RetroCosmos talk 04:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Just looked at their website. Copyright 2017. Another framework that didn't get off the ground. — Sean Brunnock ( talk) 14:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2018 Garland mayoral special election

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Article was incorrectly PRODed [32] after being through an AfD at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mayoral_elections. I WP:REFUNDed it and brought it here. While incorrectly applied, the PROD put it best: "Routine election in suburban city, local coverage of routine results only without evidence of notability." Nickps ( talk) 20:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment My fault with the PROD. I missed a small "afd" edit summary in the page history. Usually edit summaries for AFD nominations are a little more prominent. Did you have the article restored and brought it here to AFD simply because I made a mistake in the PROD 3 years ago? Seems a little bureaucracy for its own sake. Liz Read! Talk! 02:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Nom is correct in their assessment of the article's notability, though there was no need to undelete it. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I need to explain my rationale here. Since most of the articles from the original AfD still exist (and the ones that don't are merged somewhere else), to me that looks like there is consensus that this content belongs on WP. The fact that I personally think this shouldn't be the case is irrelevant. Had I phrased this as a purely procedural AfD without endorsing the PROD's reasoning it would have been clearer. Nickps ( talk) 12:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. Unexciting but notable. Elections are never routine. The two relistings suggest to me that AfD participants are being overwhelmed by the volume of nominations. Perhaps we need to tweak policy – so that a few more small-town mayors and random psychology professors are allowed in – in order to keep AfD at a manageable level. I find using Google Translate to make sense of Indonesian-language articles that are better than their English-language counterparts is increasingly draining. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 03:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Ow, I would love to see more articles about mayors in small towns/municipalities. The Netherlands had many tiny municipalities (often with less then 500 inhabitants). That those municipalities often survived only a few years is a small detail. The Banner  talk 16:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) No worries. It is true but I am not going to spend time on that. reply
  • Delete Nothing really here. Wikipedia is not a database of election results. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Per NOTDIR and nom. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, Pppery, and The Herald. Every local election gets local coverage, which is insufficient to show encyclopedic notability. BD2412 T 02:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. revised article per the improvements made during this discussion. As for whether this should be subsequently moved or split, that's editorial and doesn't need a relist. Star Mississippi 01:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Stars and planetary systems in fiction

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This is an extreme (almost 400kb) case of fancrufty "list of appearances of foo topic in every imaginable work" (books, comics, games...). The topic may be notable (recent talk discussion suggests User:TompaDompa, who has an established record of getting similar topics to Good Article and beyond, tried to rewrite this but was thwarted - reverted - at some point and possibly gave up), Our execution is abysmally bad and begs for WP:TNT - after tiny prose lead, this is just a WP:IPC-violating list of random examples. I.e. this is another de facto list that fails WP:LISTN, a simple WP:INDISCRIMINATE listing of all instances a star or planet appeared in a work of fiction ( WP:NOTTVTROPES). If we were to approach it as an article, beyond its lead, it is a major fail of WP:V and WP:OR). No prejudice to this being turned into a prose-based stub or start-class if anyone (TompaDompa?) wants to work on this, otherwise we may have to redirect it or just delete it, I am afraid. Note that this list is still growing with unrerenced ORish content (see diff from late March). Sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep (EDIT:ADDED: or replace with TompaDompa's version linked below), this is a well-organized and full article. You may not like lists like this,ad but that is no reason to delete. Some of the listings may be O.R., but, like many pages like this, the discussed information may be found at the linked articles. It provides a great deeal of encyclopedic knowledge, is easy to read, and gives readers an adequate exploration of the topic. Randy Kryn ( talk) 03:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Randy Kryn: We are not TV Tropes. TV Tropes content is not useless, and I like TV Tropes, but this list belongs on TV Tropes. There is precedent that these lists are unacceptable on Wikipedia. QuicoleJR ( talk) 12:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Also, there is no reason that the "In popular culture" content can't be on the star pages, except if it is unacceptable content. QuicoleJR ( talk) 12:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    TV tropes is an essay, it can be summarized as "I don't like it". I've seen this TV tropes argument come up a lot in these list discussions. Some of us like the 'In popular culture' lists and find them informative and encyclopedic, some don't. This one works and should be kept to entries which have linked articles. Randy Kryn ( talk) 13:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Essays are easy to dismiss. How about policies like WP:OR? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Randy Kryn: NOTINDISCRIMINATE is policy, and it says we should not be indiscriminately listing everything in a broad topic, like works of fiction that take place near stars that aren't the Sun. Making such a list would also arguably violate our policy on original research, as we are grouping articles together in a way that is not based on what the sources say, and there is no real navigational purpose. QuicoleJR ( talk) 19:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Keeping the current version of the article is a complete non-starter. It contains blatant WP:OR, improper use of primary sources, misrepresentations of sources, and outright WP:PLAGIARISM all in the very first section. That being said, it could be fixed. Here's what a starting point for that might look like: Special:PermaLink/1218679535.
    It's not like we cannot have high-quality articles on topics like this— Mars in fiction, Venus in fiction, and Sun in fiction are all WP:Featured articles—but the bulk of the nearly 400 kB here consists of a TV Tropes-style list with absolutely atrocious sourcing. The article has become a dumping ground for garbage "In popular culture" content to keep it out of the articles on the stars themselves. I would certainly be in favour of keeping the article provided that it is cleaned up properly (which in this case would mean rewriting it pretty much from scratch). As the nomination alludes to, I did just that back in 2021, which caused something of a ruckus and was reverted—the PermaLink above is a minimally tweaked version of what I came up with back then. I have since located additional sources that would be useful for writing a proper article on the topic, but have held off on doing so lest it be perceived as trying to force my preferred version through and causing another stir. TompaDompa ( talk) 04:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'd be happy to withdraw this if the version is replaced by https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=1218679535 and not reverted back as I gather happened before. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or rewrite The current list is definitely not something we can keep. However, TompaDompa's version of the article does seem like an acceptable article. QuicoleJR ( talk) 12:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

*Delete as it currently is. The current article is rife with a multitude of pretty major issues as described already - poor sourcing, WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH and content that blatantly goes against WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. If the current content was replaced by the draft shared by TompaDompa above, then I would be happy to keep that version, but this current list should absolutely not be retained as it is. Rorshacma ( talk) 03:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - As the previous list has been replaced by a sourced prose article, I am striking my previous recommendation to Delete. As shown by the discussions below, there is still some discussion to be had regarding the final organization of the information here, such as should it be merged anywhere or split into more than one topic, but that can be discussed after the AFD closes if needed. As far as the current AFD is concerned, I do not believe there is any cause for a deletion at this point. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:SALAT. Far too broad to be useful. A sizable chunk of science fiction involves other planets and star systems. (Also, no Ringworld?) Clarityfiend ( talk) 11:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note, then why not just go with the version by TompaDompa mentioned and linked above? If the nominator said they'd withdraw the nom if that version is used, and !voters agree, I'm not understanding the problem, which seems to have that easy solution. Randy Kryn ( talk) 12:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - As TompaDompa said, they attempted to rewrite the article to the version they proposed back in 2021, and after lengthy pushback on the Talk page, it was reverted back to the current version of the article. As they said that they were hesitant on changing it back to their version to avoid looking like they were independently ignoring that previous discussion, I made the statement that I would remove my recommendation to Delete if their version were used instead in order to hopefully show a consensus for them to go ahead with that rewrite. I'd imagine the other commenters and nom have similar thinking. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Randy Kryn Maybe ping those editors and ask? Not everybody follows discussions after commenting. I concur that deleting is strictly inferior to replacing this with something else. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not an editor, just a lowly user, but I just wanted to say I love this page and use it all the time to suggest colony names when I'm gaming. I'll be sad to see it go.
Will the historical versions of this page still be available once it's gone. 108.31.3.18 ( talk) 02:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
If it does get deleted, try the Wayback Machine as it has numerous backups of the page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 04:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I hear you, and I hope this will be preserved in history. Even better - if someone would care enough to copy this to TVTROPES... maybe you'd like to help? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Move (or just merge? It wasn't the original scope of the article) to Planets in science fiction to tighten the scope and make it less arbitrary. Merge the "stars" section to Star, adding an "in fiction" section. I assume it must have had one at some point, but probably got spun off to sweep the cruft under the rug. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 05:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:HEY (assuming it is kept as the TompaDompa prose version). It really can't be kept the way it was though, per all the arguments made above. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 18:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. This is a perfectly good article, or at any rate capable of being so, at least in the form I am seeing, which is possibly after some WP:HEY work has been done. Maybe it was bad before. I mean it is original work, yes, so are very many things that we have here. List of statues of Queen Victoria and many scores of thousands of articles like that. If we had to copy a list that someone else made for articles like that, it'd be plagiarism, which'd be worse, and copyvio too really.
    Everything we do, creating articles by choosing and melding material from various sources, deciding what belongs and what doesn't, is original work, for goodness' sake. WP:OR is to be invoked when there's a problem. There's no problem here, it's just incomplete. Sure the article could become really big, maybe too big (but I mean adding material to articles so that they become bigger is not a bad thing), in which case it can be split up or trimmed using some reasonable criteria. Sure, there are articles that don't belong here on account of being too detailed about a subject. But this isn't one.
    Also I dislike terms like "fancrufty", which doesn't put me in a receptive mood as it just bourgeois snobbery and indicates that you are coming the matter with prejudgement, particularly when we are talking about "science fiction in general" rather than "Star Wars" or something. I'd prefer if terms like that are avoided. Herostratus ( talk) 06:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Herostratus: If you are curious, this is what the article looked like when it was nominated. Which obviously bears very little resemblance to the current version. TompaDompa ( talk) 14:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Wait wait wait wut? Keep and restore. Y'all practically erased the article. Why. Why would you do that. What do you think we are trying to do here??? It was better before. Well, after the article is kept we can talk about that I suppose.
    As I said, original research is only a problem if its a problem. If you're synthesizing a new idea, or implying something in error. The idea here seems to be "Lots of science fiction stories have stars and planets in them", which is not a new idea. It's just true. If you're saying the idea is "Lots of science fiction stories have stars and planets in them, and we're cherry-picking only some of them to make some point", that's not true. The writers are not doing that. It's just that the article is not complete. So what is the problem? Don't WP:SHOUT in ALL CAPS at me about this rule and that rule. We all know there are a lot of rules here, many contradictory, and that the devil can quote scripture. Tell me in plain English why you all want to prevent the reader from getting access to this information. It's not like we're trying to decide if its worth our time to make this article. Somebody already has. It's just a question of whether or not to increase entropy by scattering this information to the wind.
    The "primary-secondary-tertiary" rubric is taken from academia. It is fine for academia (I guess) but for what we are trying to do here, not so much. It's one data point of many to consider, yes. But don't give me four legs good two legs bad. We're supposed to be using our brains here. We are talking about throwing a fair amount of some people's work into the dustbin. Tell me why, in this article, the use of primary sources degrades the reader's experience. Can you? I'm all ears. Should the article include only those entities where some obscure reviewer has randomly happened to note "This article takes place on Alph Woo" and not include those where the review randomly hasn't? Why. Why. Good grief.
    It there's stuff that's not ref'd, ref it. If you don't have the time or interest to do that (quite understandable), tag it. If there's reason to believe it's maybe not true, delete it. Keep in mind that, for good or ill, works of literature are considered reliable sources for their own contents here. We don't need refs to describe the contents or plot of a movie or book, the rubric is "To check the accuracy of this data, get a copy of the book". Otherwise 90%+ of our plot sections of books and movies would have to be deleted.
    Sorry to be harsh, but if you all are going to be trying to pull stuff like this, you are going to be called to task. It's depressing to see what we are more and more becoming. Herostratus ( talk) 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    In plain English, compiling raw data about works of fiction is not Wikipedia's purpose, nor is analysing the same (it is, however, TV Tropes' and Wikia/ Fandom's purpose). Compiling analysis about works of fiction made by others is, however. The latter approach has resulted in several WP:Featured articles: Mars in fiction, Venus in fiction, and Sun in fiction. TompaDompa ( talk) 20:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Clarksdale, Indiana

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A "no there there" intersection, there's a single house and that's it. Searching is masked by the place in Mississippi but turned up nothing. Mangoe ( talk) 02:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. Though it appears as a named point on topo maps [33], there's nothing actually there except an unremarkable intersection, and I see no sign of it on any historical maps. ╠╣uw [ talk 13:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The Brown County Democrat mentions it once. Coverage goes back to 1914. It doesn't appear in the book "From Needmore to Prosperity : Hoosier place names in folklore and history" either. Something was probably there at one time, but I don't know what it was. James.folsom ( talk) 22:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of first-class cricket centuries by W. G. Grace

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The cricketer does not even have the most number of first class cricket centuries. For example, Jack Hobbs does not have a page for his fc centuries. For convention, this has beend done for cricketers having more than 25 international centuries. Hence, this article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharaoh496 ( talkcontribs) 06:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep I understand the motive for this nomination, given we usually have limit the number of articles like this to record holders for nations etc, but given Grace is probably one of the games greatest players, and one of the players instrumental in the development of the game an article like this, which is incredibly well sourced and deemed good enough to be a featured article is good enough to keep it. There is coverage in articles of his hundreds also, whether in biographies, or more recently in debate whether or not one of many of his hundreds were first class. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 09:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    There would be as good players. People can make properly sources articles - but its first class, and not international test cricket; not being as notable Pharaoh496 ( talk) 09:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    This is irrelevant, as there's significant coverage of his centuries. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 17:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Don’t make rules by your own. It doesn’t matter if he’s the highest century scorer or not. The minimum threshold of 25 int. centuries is an informal guideline. The fact is that his centuries have been discussed and received coverage in multiple books and online articles. Clearly satisfies the criteria of WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. RoboCric Let's chat 14:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep his centuries are covered in multiple books, and therefore passes WP:GNG and WP:NLIST, particularly One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Notable Page and clearly passes WP:GNG coverage. 103.121.36.100 ( talk) 03:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC). reply
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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Irena Justine

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Fails WP:GNG, most of these sources barely seem to qualify this person as notable. Allan Nonymous ( talk) 01:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. I agree, the article subject doesn’t meet notability requirements. Nate Higgers ( talk) 02:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. And improve with the help of the (WP) pages in Indonesian about her and the films/series she played in, and that seem to show she meets WP:NACTOR although she died young.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. According to WP:NACTOR, the individual must have had substantial roles in various notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. However, the person in question does not meet this requirement, as they have never portrayed lead roles or appeared in notable films. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Seems important, and references seem legit. In general, multiple references talking about the subject like this is probably enough to indicate notability. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 17:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

:*Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [34]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [35] [36]. 202.43.93.9 ( talk) 03:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. I added some references from the Indonesian article. I think she had many important roles. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 02:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Subjects who are notable in Indonesia are just as important as subjects who are notable in the US, and article editors are improving the references. rspεεr ( talk) 17:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Francisco Gómez (footballer, born 1967)

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Contested BLAR. Article created by a blocked sockpupeteer evading a salting of Francisco Javier Gómez. Cites no sources containing significant coverage. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Sports broadcasting contracts in the Philippines

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WP:NOTGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are made of entirely of announcments, just not worthy of an encyclopaedic value. Those arguing for a keep must be advised of WP:USEFUL. I also advise those to create a Fandom page for your favorite sport if you want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 23:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete with no prejudice for recreation later on. I originally created this article as a spin off of Broadcasting of sports events but the article has devolved into a list of every sports events broadcast in the country without discussing actual contracts. The parent article has an ugly {{ globalize}} template and could use help for countries which are not dominated by Caucasians. I'd probably do that later on as my PC is busted. The Philippines has a rich history of this dating back to the 1950s with the broadcast of NCAA basketball championships (Philippines) and even had court cases on who should broadcast the UAAP on the turn of the century. Howard the Duck ( talk) 07:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per Howard; as with many WP:TV Fliipino articles he had good intentions but nobody has brought any sources (six of them here), and it's as usual a complete free-for-all of poor overall organization and especially for the basketball section which gets down to semi-pro junior leagues only the gamblers and family are watching, a complete failure to understand that a list article should be a list, not a compilation of 'network fan drama'. Nate ( chatter) 01:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Sports broadcasting contracts in the Dominican Republic

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep must be advised of WP:USEFUL. I also advise those to create a Fandom page for your favorite sport if you want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 23:27, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Nylon Pink

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Sources on page do not appear to be reliable (except maybe LA Weekly, though it is a blog), and I couldn't find any other coverage aside from this very brief AllMusic bio. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 23:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete – Per nom. Most sources are now unavailable, and the band's notability is completely questionable. Svartner ( talk) 05:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Vasilisa Kaganovskaia

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Fails WP:NSKATE; any medal placements are at the junior level. PROD was removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per WP:NSKATE, as far as I can tell. Halfadaniel ( talk) 05:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. The "Grand Prix" is not a senior-level national championship. Bearian ( talk) 14:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Trimukhi Baavdi

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No reliable sources Sohom ( talk) 20:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per WP:GNG, WP:MILL, WP:NOTINHERITED, and WP:RS. It's a hole in the ground. There's no allegation that this well is anything more than one of hundreds of thousands of wells, even if someone famous paid for it to be dug. There are no reliable sources. Bearian ( talk) 14:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Som River

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Fails WP:NGEO, no reliable sources. Google tells me https://guj-nwrws.gujarat.gov.in/showpage.aspx?contentid=1845&lang=english should be a source, however that appears to be statistics and a dead link. Sohom ( talk) 20:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Sipu River

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Fails WP:NGEO, no reliable sources. Google tells me https://guj-nwrws.gujarat.gov.in/showpage.aspx?contentid=1845&lang=english should be a source, however that appears to be statistics and a dead link. Sohom ( talk) 20:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Sports broadcasting contracts in Montenegro

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WP:NOTGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, no source whatsoever. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 16:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete - No merit under WP:NLIST BrigadierG ( talk) 10:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Volkswagen Golf Variant

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Model isn't notable in its own right to warrant an article, Each Golf article has a Variant section (and and none of the Golf articles even mentions this article ( /info/en/?search=Special:WhatLinksHere/Volkswagen_Golf_Variant), It would be like creating Volkswagen Golf Cariolet or Volkswagen Golf 3-door etc if that makes sense, no evidence of any notability, Fails GNG – Davey2010 Talk 19:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete As noted in nom, discussion of variants belongs in individual articles; we don't need a separate article to aggregate those variants. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:53, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - no need for a redirect, or we would set ourselves up for redirects for every single bodystyle ever created of every car out there.  Mr.choppers |  ✎  17:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Consensus to delete for non-notability. Valereee ( talk) 14:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Guarana (energy drink)

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Fails WP:NPRODUCT. Admittedly, the name doesn't make searching the easiest, but I haven't found any significant coverage. ARandomName123 ( talk)Ping me! 20:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Blisk (web browser)

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As far as I can tell, the only notable source for this is Mashable. Hence, it currently fails WP:GNG. I did a quick search and didn't really find any sources more notable. Allan Nonymous ( talk) 22:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak Keep: A lot of the sources I found were press releases or overly promotional, but with the reviews from Mashable, Fossbytes and Softpedia, (both a little questionable but at least they have actual authors and ratings), and coverage of the data breach in Zdnet I think it can be kept. Weak keep because it only got coverage when it released and when it had a data breach and nothing really in between or after. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 19:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ StreetcarEnjoyer On 2 December 2023‎ the user Lotje has removed almost the whole article with lots of sources. I'm asking to revert the majority of changes. The software works and gets released constantly. Let's discuss on how to rewrite the features and press releases. Can you help with this? And85rew ( talk) 08:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    No, I am against including that content. The article does not need "features and press releases". The content that was removed is contrary to policy. I will remove it again if it's readded. If you have specific additions in mind, it's best to suggest them on the talk page. And if you have a conflict of interest, please disclose it. — Alalch E. 09:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Could you please explain why features are not needed? The features describe the software. The article /info/en/?search=Google_Chrome names the key features (User interface, Built-in tools, Desktop shortcuts and apps, Extensions, Speed, Security, Privacy). Why cannot this article list the features of the software? And85rew ( talk) 09:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    The article will never be the way it used to be. The misuse of Wikipedia at this page has been put to an end. It lasted for a while, but that time has come and gone. Disclose your conflict of interest. See the edit history of the article where the reasons for removal are stated in the edit summaries. — Alalch E. 09:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    The experienced editor Alalch E. is correct here. The article in its prior status was exclusively cited to primary sources and violated the Wikipedia guidelines of not being a blatant advertisement. Features listed in other web browser pages like Google Chrome and Firefox are (mostly) cited to independent, reliable sources, have enough coverage in independent sources, and were given by other editors who generally do not have a conflict of interest. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 22:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. In all likelihood, I find the initial flurry of coverage to be almost certainly based substantially or entirely on press kit, i.e. WP:CHURNALISM. The Fossbytes article is especially obvious, I mean hell, that second last sentence: You can go ahead and try our Blisk for Windows right now. Did they even bother paraphrasing the email they got before publishing it? The state of available sourcing is unacceptable, it fails independence requirements. Other, more exhaustive software directories (like, I don't know, Softpedia, where it's already at) may be an appropriate home for this, but Wikipedia is not that. Alpha3031 ( tc) 12:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: I'd like to change my vote. Frankly the sourcing available is bad and sourcing a web browser entirely to "it was released and had a data breach once" is not a good idea. All the sources not about the data breach do sound like press release churnalism, even the Mashable article. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 23:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was merge‎ to Carrot cake. Liz Read! Talk! 22:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Carrot cake cookie

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Non-notable cookie that does not pass WP:GNG, references consist of recipes and trivial mentions. WP:BEFORE check yielded no sources that show WP:SIGCOV. Should be merged into Carrot cake#UK and US if not deleted outright. BaduFerreira ( talk) 21:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete I have bookmarked scores of cookies I'd like to try making. This one isn't in it, but it appears to be a prime example of something that's just an inspired recipe with many variations, not a notable dish that's cohesively described outside of a cookbook writer's introduction. This could be a sentence in Carrot cake. Reywas92 Talk 02:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge to Carrot cake and redirect, at least for now. It's possible this one could get there -- oreo makes a version, subway and aldis have a version, I've added that content+refs. Gourmet did something in 2004, but on a quick search I'm not finding it, and it was not unlikely it was a simple recipe, but if anyone can figure out their archives, ping me to a link and I'll add. Commercial uptake is probably a promising sign for this cookie's notability, so it would be good to have that info at carrot cake for future consideration. Valereee ( talk) 12:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Selective Merge to Carrot cake, which presently has no mention other than a link in its See also section. North America 1000 10:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge as suggested, as a good compromise. Bearian ( talk) 14:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Also, "Checking notability" is not a deletion rationale. Please do not bring articles to an AFD if you just want to check them out. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Gaston Gelos

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Checking notability. Dejaqo ( talk) 20:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Following a review of the article and its sources, I made some changes. With sources like [1], [2] an other citations in that, notability can be clearly demonstrated. Also he is frequently quoted by major financial media outlets including Bloomberg, CNBC, and the Financial Times, as an economist. Southati ( talk) 14:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Looking on GS under both RG Gelos and Gaston Gelos seems sufficiently well cited for a pass of WP:Prof. ( Msrasnw ( talk) 17:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)) reply
  • Keep In addition to WP:Prof, clearly passes WP:GNG. Gedaali ( talk) 20:17, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2023–24 CD Alcoyano season

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Contested PROD. Not playing in professional division, does not appear to meet WP:SIGCOV under WP:GNG, not being regularly maintained Crowsus ( talk) 20:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. A single file summarizing the CD Alcoyano seasons is enough. Svartner ( talk) 22:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I respect that semi-pro seasons can sometimes be notable but I'm struggling to see how this would be one of the rare few. As above, a line or two about the season at CD Alcoyano would be more than sufficient. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails WP:NSEASONS. Govvy ( talk) 19:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It's a potentially viable article, but does not currently pass GNG on its face. Can be draftified and improved if anyone wants to. SportingFlyer T· C 20:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Jerusalem unrest

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Per WP:EVENTCRIT: "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news...whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." Per WP:NOTNEWS: "Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion" AusLondonder ( talk) 20:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Shakira tribute albums

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Contested prod. Fails WP:LISTN: one album listed has a review in Allmusic, everything else is covered only by streaming services, catalog listings, and eBay listings. Since the prose is mostly WP:OR, I don't see anything worth merging. hinnk ( talk) 20:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per above: If more releases were notable then I would still recommend converting to Category:Shakira tribute albums, but there's nothing here worth keeping anyway. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 22:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - The policy-based arguments by everyone above are correct. Also note that upon inspecting some of the listings, most of these "tribute" albums are made up of cover versions recorded by unknown studio musicians and remixes by equally unknown DJs. Just about all of them are attempts by shysters to sponge money off a famous person's success, and all failed to generate notice. That same notice is required for an article here. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 12:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. >>>  Extorc. talk 18:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. List of non-notable albums. OK for a fan site. Needs sources comparing the albums to satisfy the notability criteria for lists. Rupples ( talk) 19:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Anuradha Bhattacharyya

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Main claim to fame in lede appears to be winning an Chandigarh Sahitya Akademi, but that's not supported by the refs (one ref just mentions that she was selected to give away the award), and her name is not mentioned anywhere here (in the English or Hindi sections, at least). I don't see WP:SIGCOV and any other reliable sources in the article, just bibiographies and mentions. Was deleted previously by AfD and quickly recreated by the original author soon after. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/chandigarh/honour-for-17-authors-by-csa-52965 Cash prize mentioned. The Chandigarh Sahitya Akademi is the State Award in Literature. Without 'Chandigarh', Sahitya Akademi is the National award.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/sahitya-akademi-honour-for-writers-384418 This was in 2017 for the book One Word, same government body.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190204231321/http://chdpr.gov.in/dashboard/sites/default/files/Commendation%20Certificates%20for%20distinguished%20service.pdf This one is the State Honour from the government presented on the Republic Day of India, state level. For this, a police verification is conducted for eligibility. It is not a small matter to receive this honour in India. Atul Bhattacharyya ( talk) 16:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This looks like a paid Job or an intention to promote subject article on wikipedia. I was just taking a look at the external link section and after clicking the twitter link I found out that the subject has already started promoting her wikipedia page by using the twitter link on her bio.

https://twitter.com/AnuradhaAuthor Beside that, subject article fails WP:GNG.-- Meligirl5 ( talk) 17:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete: Not a notable figure, and i also supports the Nominator's views. TheChronikler7 ( talk) 06:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Doesn't appear to be notable and somewhat vanity article. RationalPuff ( talk) 22:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Clementine cake

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Despite being a good article, not a single source has WP:SIGCOV of this specific cake. The majority of sources are recipes which is fine if they're accompanied by significant coverage and discussion of the dish, but there isn't any. The only shred of notability that I'm seeing comes from being a minor plot in a 2013 film and supposedly being an adaption of an ancient Jewish cake. The sources for this second claim are a personal blog (which isn't a reliable source) and the Encyclopedia of Jewish Food which makes no mention of an orange cake that this article claims Clementine cake was adapted from. We need sources that speak about this cake's notability (not just more recipes) and if that doesn't exist, I believe a selective merge to Fruitcake#United States is the best option. BaduFerreira ( talk) 20:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The claims about the ancient cake appear to be from the New York Times? Valereee ( talk) 21:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nice catch, I missed that. That source is a recipe on the New York Times cooking website and the entirety of discussion of this cake is as follows: "This dessert, loosely based on a Sephardic orange cake, uses whole clementines, peels and all, for a flavor rich in citrus. The cooking time may seem long, but much of it doesn’t require much attention from the baker. And the first step, reducing the fruit, may be done ahead of time." Nothing in terms of WP:SIGCOV. BaduFerreira ( talk) 22:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
You also missed that the recipe is connected to an article. The NYT does that with their food writing: they write an article, and then they put the recipe(s) from that article into separate article/s with the main article attached with a "Featured in" link. Valereee ( talk) 22:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Oh wow, I didn't realize that at all. Looking at the broader article shows where that earlier blurb came from: "The star of the feast came last: the Clementine Cake (pictured above). Baked by Dawn Datso, a family friend and professional pastry chef, it didn’t come from the book. But the cultural mash-up involved in its creation made it seem supremely appropriate. Years ago, while living in Malaysia, Ms. Datso was browsing in a library and came across a cookbook with some random recipe for Sephardic orange cake. A big fan of clementines, she eventually adapted the cake to feature them". The only WP:SIGCOV that can be pulled from this source is a person adapted a recipe for Sephardic orange cake by adding clementines and made her friend a cake. The baker ( Dawn Datso) is described as a professional pastry chef, but I can't find any information about her. This doesn't show that Clementine cake has any notability. BaduFerreira ( talk) 22:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
You've been told twice before this on the talk that not every source used in an article has to represent significant coverage. Other RS can be used to support assertions. Valereee ( talk) 22:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
What sources currently used in this article show significant coverage? There isn't a single source used in this article that has significant coverage of Clementine cake as a notable cake. Three of the sources that you've added ( The Guardian, The Sydney Morning Herald, The SF Chronicle) looked good at first, but they're recipes for an Orange & Almond Cake. Also none of them are over WP:100WORDS. BaduFerreira ( talk) 22:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Well, the Perelman source is quite lengthy. But even the sources you're objecting to for not having enough words -- that's an essay, btw, not policy -- are calling it famous and a classic. They're discussing its ancient roots and that it's a traditional Sephardic passover food. Significant coverage isn't just about wordcount. Sometimes it's about what they're saying and who's saying it. In this case, RS and experts from all over the world are saying it. Valereee ( talk) 23:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I've added several more sources, although frankly I don't think this article needed it. The NYT has covered this cake multiple times. The Guardian has covered it. The San Francisco Chronicle. Claudia Roden has covered it. Nigella Lawson has covered it. Joyce Goldstein. It appears to be a cake that has ancient roots, which is always an indicator of notability. I didn't have to look very hard. Valereee ( talk) 22:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep This nomination gives me a weird feeling. First sources get removed and when they are restored and expanded on, a nomination follows. The Banner  talk 23:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Enough coverage in the sources found and added by Valeree for a GNG pass. Rupples ( talk) 19:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Quick keep per above. on a side note, the GA should be reassessed tho. I feel the article doesn't quite match the standards mainly due to its brief length. X ( talk) 22:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. I failed to search for results using his nickname. ( non-admin closure)JTtheOG ( talk) 22:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Bradley Porteous

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Cricketer BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG ( talk) 19:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was moved to Draft:Amelia Hamer, as an alternative to deletion, per request. BD2412 T 15:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Amelia Hamer

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Only claim to notability is being a candidate for the next Australian federal election. Sources cover her in the context of winning a party selection process. She is not notable by virtue of connection with notable family members. It is long-standing practice that we don't create articles for unelected election candidates. AusLondonder ( talk) 19:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: I agree and as is stated in WP:NPOLITICIAN an unelected candidate in an election isn't inherently notable, but when a candidate's article can be supported with sources that establish notability through WP:GNG, then, as stated in NPOLITICIAN, such people can still be notable. In connection with GNG, a range of sources from both within the article already, and from a Google Search show the article's subject meets the GNG criteria. — GMH Melbourne ( talk) 00:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Nothing in the article demonstrates her notability inside or outside politics.-- Grahame ( talk) 13:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete not independently notable outside a political candidacy, and we have a number of reasons to delete those sorts of pages. SportingFlyer T· C 00:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete not notable for being a political candidate. Her activities at Oxford University hardly add to notability. Fails WP:BIO and WP:NPOL. LibStar ( talk) 00:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The subject article seems to be a TOO SOON. She might later gain notability in the future but for now she doesn't seems to be notable or either enough sources to meet WP:GNG.-- Meligirl5 ( talk) 17:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - TOOSOON and WP:POLOUTCOMES. While consensus can change, the longtime and frequent outcomes have been a long standing precedent. Bearian ( talk) 14:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Draftify: With the likely result being to delete, I request the article be drafted, in case the subject wins the election, in order to retain the edit history thusfar GMH Melbourne ( talk) 01:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. As always, candidates do not get articles just for being candidates — obviously she'll qualify for an article if she wins the seat once the election happens, but she isn't eligible to have one just for being named as a candidate. But the existence of that campaign coverage received in the context of her candidacy does not in and of itself hand a candidate a WP:GNG-based exemption from WP:NPOLevery candidate in every election everywhere can always show some evidence of campaign coverage, so if that were how it worked then every candidate would always get that exemption and NPOL itself would be completely meaningless and unenforceable. So the notability test for an unelected candidate isn't passed on campaign coverage alone, and normally requires that she already passed an inclusion criterion for some other reason besides her candidacy. Bearcat ( talk) 20:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

General Mariano Alvarez Technical High School

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the article's topic is unnotable, the aricle contains 0 references, and is only 1 sentence long. Gaismagorm ( talk) 19:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Jaspa's Journey: The Great Migration

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the article seems to be promotional in nature, with it's only two references being from the publisher of the book, and the other being a website about the book. the articles creator has only only one edit, with it being the creation of this article. Gaismagorm ( talk) 19:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

1993 Space Machine

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Sourcing is exclusively interviews, with no critical commentary in sight. Metacritic turns up no critic reviews, and searches per WP:BEFORE don't turn up much. It's an interesting subject, but it does not appear to meet the general notability guidelines. λ Negative MP1 18:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Buran Parks

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The closest to WP:SIGCOV that I found was this coverage for winning a club player of the year award. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Consensus is clear. BD2412 T 15:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Yaimara Aguilar

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a Cuban women's footballer, to meet WP:GNG. The ideal redirect would be List of Cuba women's international footballers, which doesn't exist, but another user suggested a redirect to Cuba women's national football team. JTtheOG ( talk) 18:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Volunthai

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I am struggling to find any recent information about Volunthai. Their website - volungthai.com - widely quoted in older online pages and previously in their wiki page (until I removed the reference) - points to a 'free hookup' site. The organisation appears to have always been very small. Can't find any associated organisations that I can link it with. Newhaven lad ( talk) 17:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: It does not appear the organization exists anymore so if suitable sources exists, they will be hard to find. I searched ProQuest for the Washington Post and other sources mentioned in the article but those and others were all first hand accounts so WP:primary or brief mentions. The only source that seemed it might be secondary SIGCOV is ProQuest  308904716, an 26 August 2003 piece by The Bangkok Post titled "Building bridges" but only the abstract is available. S0091 ( talk) 16:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Abdullah Gohar

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Little evidence of NPROF: citation record is wholly inadequate, and student awards don't count for much. There is some human-interest type coverage in conjunction with an ancient whale he was involved in studying, but I think that it is at best a WP:BLP1E, with coverage all around Aug/Sep 2023. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 15:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

also should delete based on WP:NOTRESUME User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. "pursuing a Ph.D. ... at Oklahoma State University", so he's not there yet. Maybe some time in the future. Athel cb ( talk) 16:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'll add a comment here, though I still think it's too soon. In some countries (Chile, for example, which I know far better than I know Egypt) it's not unusual to advance a long way in one's research career, and even acquire an international reputation, well before finishing one's doctorate. Getting a doctorate takes a long time, because unless one comes from a wealthy family one needs to work almost full-time as a university teacher at the same time. I don't know how much, if at all, that applies to Abdullah Gohar. Athel cb ( talk) 09:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: How notable are the awards listed? Oaktree b ( talk) 19:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Not very. They are discussed here [3]. One is for "Student fieldwork in vertebrate paleontology", the other "To enable scientists from economically developing nations to present research at the SVP Annual Meeting". Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 21:05, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- Athel cb's comments are very important to take into account. (in music, a lot of significant performers get their doctorates much later when they are financially secure enough to take the time off after their careers have already passed a notability stage), but typically the recognition of prior work + recent studies pays off in the form of indepedent coverage, and I'm not seeing it here. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 10:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:PROF - thesis was less than 3 years ago - and WP:TOOSOON applies. Bearian ( talk) 14:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I'm skeptical of why? What is WP:NPROF if the individual's research has appeared on a notable coverage which i can see through ABC news. I don't know how notable is the award, but it seems to be from a notable academy or institution which meets the policies and guidelines. Though it looks like TOOSOON, do deletion appy here? Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 07:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Pierre Gervois

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Pretty random artist; article authored by a suspected paid editor. Biruitorul Talk 15:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete: in general sources of WP:YOUTUBE are not notable and usable except under specific criteria. most sources are not independent of author. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I found one detailed source about the subject:
    1. Sawyer, Matthew Lee (2022). Make It in America: How International Companies and Entrepreneurs Can Successfully Enter and Scale in U.S. Markets. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. pp. 55–56. ISBN  978-1-119-88514-6. Retrieved 2024-04-13 – via Google Books.

      The book provides 664 words of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "Pierre Gervois is an artist, author, teacher, and entrepreneur. He grew up in a conservative, traditional French family in Paris. When Pierre told his parents that he wanted to study modern art, they insisted he pursue a more predictable career in business, law, or engineering. He followed their wishes, earning a master's degree in political science and constitutional law at Institut d'Etudes Politiques de Paris. Unknown to them, though, during those years he also created 500 paintings and drawings."

      The book notes: "In addition to his entrepreneurial venture, Pierre rekindled his passion for art. With downtime during the 2020 pandemic, he created a website to show his paintings, drawings, and digital artwork. Within six weeks, he sold five pieces. The website also caught the attention of a New York City art gallery that wanted to exhibit his work."

    If there was one more good source, then Pierre Gervois would meet the notability guideline. The other sources I found were passing mentions or quotes from him in the media.

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Mikko Kärkkäinen

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The article on this guy’s company, RELEX Solutions, just got speedily deleted as spam. The article’s author is a suspected paid editor. I think I know where this is headed. Biruitorul Talk 15:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete fails WP:GNG. I think CharlesBNB should be blocked for undeclared paid editing

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Bed Kingdom

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Pretty random company; article authored by a suspected paid editor. Biruitorul Talk 14:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Neeraj Tripathi

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOLITICIAN too soon. Theroadislong ( talk) 14:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Then please add them to the article! Theroadislong ( talk) 08:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. A possible merge target, if applicable, can be discussed on the article's Talk page. Owen× 20:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of French loanwords in Persian

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Ehrmagerd, werds! As interesting as I find this, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. PepperBeast (talk) 12:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep: In general, same reasons as Mccapra. This article's intro could be improved, like List of loanwords in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic.
Also, comment, but we've nominated a ton of these type of "Loan words" articles for deletion today.
it seems that we are having a discussion about a large swathe of articles across multiple deletion discussion, and we should instead focus on maybe a broader discussion of these? User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 18:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Lists of abbreviations used on British Empire World War I medals

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This contains potential copyright violations, it is not adequately sourced, it provides more ambiguity than guidance, lack of provenance Keith H99 ( talk) 12:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I had some challenges with the nomination, so I may have inadvertently nominated it more than once. That I can tell, it's an article that not been nominated prior to today, and has been generally ignored. The Article is a long list that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, for each and every item. This duplicates content from other sites, or hosts POV on interpretation, and is best consigned to the trash can, as I perceive it. Keith H99 ( talk) 12:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The incorrect information in the article prompted me to take a look at the Silver War Badge article. This needed reworking, which has been done. That article could be corrected, I fail to see that as plausible for this article, hence nomination for deletion. Keith H99 ( talk) 16:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete There is a single usable reference in this article, to the National Archives [4], and that content sensibly is not quoted or summarized (because it can't be). This reference could be included with a single sentence at Awards and decorations of the British Armed Forces. All the rest of the article is unsourced, and probably would violate WP:NOTCATALOG if it were sourced by just replicating a complete list of unannotated items found in the original. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 06:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Clear violation of WP:NOT. Whether this is a directory or extract from the table of a textbook, it is not an encyclopaedic article. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 07:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. plicit 14:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Giuseppe Zappella

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 13:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep he is literally the current head coach of Juventus FC (women) [5], and a quick Google search returns plenty of articles about him. I recommend expanding and sourcing it instead, as the subject is clearly notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Angelo ( talk) 15:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep - Per above. Current manager of high profile team with ongoing career and had extensive pro career in pre internet era. I found [6], [7], and [8] among many more Italian sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 19:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per sources above which show notability. Clearly notable as both player and coach. Lazy nomination where no BEFORE has been performed. My Google search has this as the 3rd hit, which would have shown the nominator (had they bothered) that the article was simply in need of an update and clean. Giant Snowman 21:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment 12 lines in the lasentinella is not SIGCOV, calciogiappone.altervista.org is a blog and "Museo Grigio is an independent, non-political and non-profit association and aims to support, disseminate and promote the image of Alessandria Unione Sportiva, its culture, its history and its fans." Hardly unbiased. juventus.com is his employer and therefore non independent. Dougal18 ( talk) 10:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. After discussion rough consensus developed that the sourcing failed WP:NCORP and associated subguidelines. This is a case in which I found the delete arguments as whole to be more policy compliant. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 14:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

5ire

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Fails WP:NCORP, no significant coverage from independent sources. The coverage is routine coverage of funding ( WP:ORGTRIV), reprints of partnership announcements ( WP:ORGIND), or "best startup" type awards that don't convey inherent notability. ~ A412 talk! 09:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep Let's delve into the article's content before we explore the sources. The focus here is on the company's collaborations. Based on the information, as outlined in the sources, their core mission is to provide blockchain-based services. This focus on partnerships makes sense – the involvement of notable private and public organizations lends significant weight to the company's work. National and international collaborations can elevate the importance of a project and showcasing its potential. To my mind, focusing solely on the company's internal mechanisms might come across as promotional rather than informative. For example, titles for this company were used by the media, which in my opinion might make the article out of the encyclopedia mode, such as 'Sustainability-Focused Unicorn', 'India's 'fastest-growing blockchain unicorn', 'Green revolution with 5ire blockchain', or 'HOW 5IRE IS BUILDING A SUSTAINABILITY-FOCUSSED LAYER 1 BLOCKCHAIN ECOSYSTEM' and etc. The centrality of collaborations to the company's mission is why the article focuses heavily on these key partnerships. After its token was listed, this article became the target of repeated attacks. The content was constantly edited, sometimes deleted entirely, and sometimes filled with irrelevant ads to be tagged for issues. Sources that I added recentlly ( [9], [10], [11]) + other source in article, discuss a different aspect of the company, focusing on its internal workings (mechanism and performance) rather than its collaborations. The extensive coverage surrounding this company is likely due to its rapid growth. Established in 2021, it became a unicorn company in 2022. However, the sources identified, focus significantly on the company. In my judgment, informed by the articles I've created and edited, this article meets Wikipedia's Notability Guideline ( WP:GNG) requirements. YaseroSari ( talk) 13:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I was hoping this one would just go as an expired PROD because although I don't think it is notable, I don't think it is nothing either. A very young company that has managed to secure significant seed funding, it may well become notable, and it is probably just WP:TOOSOON. Anyway, now there is a keep vote, let's look at these sources. The relevant guideline is WP:NCORP and so sources must meet WP:SIRS (although, actually, all GNG sources should meet that. But that is moot). The thing to note here about these three sources, and all the article sourcing, is that it is reliant on WP:PRIMARY sources (pay attention to note d in the policy). These are news sources telling us about how they have secured $100 million funding, and also telling us about the stock market valuation - which is high, but we have seen that before in tech companies, many of which only became notable when they crashed and burned. Reporting the funding and valuation, no matter how many sources do it, is still news reporting, and WP:PRIMARYNEWS is a useful guideline to consider on that score. To look at this another way: what exactly are 5ire doing that is notable? What can be said about this company in the article? Note that the lead of the article currently only really tells us that they are notable for having secured money and a big paper valuation. I'd be content with a redirect if a suitable target were known. I don't think there is an article to be found here yet, and the sources do not meet SIRS, and so this is not notable for an article. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 14:03, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I voted to keep it, but I do have some reservations about YaseroSari's idea that I'd like to discuss further. I do not accept this: focusing solely on the company's internal mechanisms might come across as promotional rather than informative, You can focus on the company's core strengths and fundamentals by keeping the tone neutral. Even this move helps to prove the subject's notability. Anyway, I think an article focusing on the company's foundation and services would have been more informative. I also disagree with Sirfurboy, that stated what exactly are 5ire doing that is notable? What can be said about this company in the article? The Partnerships section of this article explains exactly what services this company provides. If this part was written better, it would specify the services of this company more clearly. If this company does not provide a efficient services, why should these organizations, which are considered notable, cooperate with this emerging company? This explanation of mine is not to prove the notability of this company by their partnerships, but to prove that this company provides services that they need. The source of each collaboration states the reason for it and what service they used and aslo more collaborations can be found on Google. It needs to be rewritten to highlight its services and base, not to be deleted. Dejaqo ( talk) 01:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    The partnership section shows what they are doing, but not what they are doing that is notable. It would be the section to focus on though. Do we have WP:SIRS sources discussing a notable product/output? Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep This Indian company's rapid ascent has caught the eye of both domestic media within a year and even some Arabic sources, likely due to its Dubai headquarters. A quick Google search turns up a wealth of information, including articles. Finding three sources to show WP:GNG, shouldn't be too much trouble· Gedaali ( talk) 08:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    This is a bit frustrating. This argument is WP:MUSTBESOURCES. The relevant guidelines here are WP:NCORP and we are looking for sources that meet WP:CORPDEPTH. AfD is not a vote, and the time to actually find the sources and discuss them is now. I am not adamantly against this page existing. But what sources exist that show this is notable as a company, and not just a startup with a big valuation? If we can't answer that question, we should not be voting. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 09:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
In my experience, three well-chosen sources usually suffice to establish notability WP:NCORP. My comment was to check if the current sources in the article would be enough, as I noticed from the edit history that some unacceptable sources were removed. This company has been making headlines for three reasons: first, it achieved unicorn status. Second, its token was listed on exchanges. Third, its collaborations have garnered a lot of media attention. About the first, as I red, you believe its WP:TOOSOON. In the second case, you would raised a concern that the sources might be too specific to cryptocurrency. In the third case, you clearly rejected it. I bring again some of the sources that I think meet the criteria. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and... . This article has potential, but I think there might be ways to strengthen it. Gedaali ( talk) 11:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
In my experience, three well-chosen sources usually suffice to establish notability WP:NCORP. But your experience is limited by the fact that you have only ever commented on AfDs today. Moreover, rather than giving 3 well chosen sources, you pasted in 8. Source 3 does not mention 5ire, and 3 of these are all from the Economic Times so count as one. They are also not the fruit of new searches but sources already on the page, so already considered. I can put together a source analysis table, but which of these do you actually think are secondary sources that meet WP:CORPDEPTH? Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 13:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I looked through the sources provided, and I think the Economic Times source actually has analysis, but in general, the rest of the provided sources fall short on significant coverage, basically reprinting the funding announcement of "5ire raised money on a 1b+ valuation, here's what they said they're doing with it". ~ A412 talk! 17:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It appears that sourcing is beginning to be discussed in earnest, this is to give that process more time. A source analysis would helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 13:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Comment Sourcing. No answer to my query above asking for which of those 8 sources meet CORPDEPTH, so I have analysed them all. As I say, 3 of them are from the Economic Times and count as one. That is moot too because only one of the Economic Times articles has anything substantive. My analysis lacks some work I did not check the reliability of sources that failed on other criteria. My feeling is they all look reliable, but appearances can be deceptive. I also did not check the independence, which will be affected if we find a press release or evidence of a press release that they are written off. My analysis is my own, and I am happy to discuss any points made. Here is the table:
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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
Economic Times [12] [13] [14] Yes Yes Indian financial paper, part of the Times of India group. There are three links, the second has no coverage and the third is not significant, just reporting, along with others, the high valuation. It is the first of these that goes beyond that. Note that the first is also occasioned by the same issue - the valuation - but it leads the writer to dig out additional history and analysis and is significant and useful. The piece raises queries about the high valuation as no product is yet released. Note that my evaluation is based only on what I can see in preview as the content is paywalled and when I attempted to pay it told me that readers in Europe and California are prevented from making payments for their content. This is an Indian news source but I have no access to the content. However, my evaluation of the depth is based on the claim it is a 10 minute read, suggesting 1000-1500 words. Coupled with what I see, I believe this is significant analysis, but I could, in fact, be wrong. ETA, in light of the analysis below by Highking, I am unable to refute that analysis as I have not read the full text and cannot read it. I would have paid, but the content is geographocally restricted. I cannot therefore verify my view and could well be wrong. I am updating this to unkown. 17 April 16:28 Yes
Tech in Asia [15] Yes Probably reliable, I just haven't checked. No "And that brings us to today’s two-part Big Story. 5ire, a blockchain company that few had ever heard of a year ago, rocketed to unicorn status in July. On closer inspection, the deal seems doubtful, given it hasn’t yet launched a product or gotten significant traction." Yes It is occasioned by news but the quoted paragraph, just about all it says on 5ire, is analysis. Extremely brief analysis.
inc 42 [16] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Partial. Inasmuch as it is news reporting, it is a primary source.
Business Standard [17] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Partial. Inasmuch as it is news reporting, it is a primary source.
Money Control [18] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Report of becoming unicorn. Primary news reporting
Mint [19] Is this off the back of a press release? Unclear. If this is Mintpress news, then this is no. Mintpress news are a deprecated source. But I think they may be different. No There is some information about 5ire but does not meet CORPDEPTH. It is all company supplied history and no analysis. No Report of acquisition of a stake in Network Capital. This is primary news reporting.
My summary: we have one source counting towards notability, but sources must be multiple. We are not there yet. I also note the source that points out lack of any products. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I see a couple of issues with your analysis. The Tech in Asia article seems quite significant. With over ten paragraphs, and repeated mentions of 5ire (10 times), it appears to offer a detailed exploration of the topic. Why wouldn't you consider it significant? Do you consider it as a "passing mention"? I did not see this website among the unreliable news websites that you doubt its reliability. Also there are two other sources from same website, The convicted fraudster backing 5ire, ‘India’s 105th unicorn’ and 5ire investors angry over delay on promised refunds. CEO blames mystery fund. Regarding the second source of the Economic Times, reference number 4 and 5 are essentially the same and the problem is presented in the link. Anyway, 5ire wins the AIBC 2022 'Social Impact Project of the Year' award, this article looks like it covers the subject quite significantly. In my opinion, this article meets the WP:GNG because of the significant coverage it receives from reliable sources, as evidenced by the WP:SIGCOV. Also, I'm not sure about reliability and independence of Blockchain Unicorn 5ire Unveils a New Approach Towards Sustainability Pratik Gauri, CEO - 5ire, please check it out. Gedaali ( talk) 16:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
You are commenting on an NCORP AfD. So I have repeatedly mentioned WP:CORPDEPTH. This is the relevant test for significant coverage:

Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization.

You are new to AfD, and very welcome here, but I think you are missing something here. Not surprising. NCORP AfDs have a lot to consider. But what have we got about this company that allows us to write more than a stub that tells us it has a big valuation? What notable thing does it do? The sources considered above indicate a lack of product, so it is not just this AfD asking that question. That last one you just asked me to look at purports to answer the question, but it doesn't. All it tells us is that it is a proof of stake blockchain. Sorry... a sustainable proof of stake blockchain. Whatever that means. I mean... all proof of stake is eminently more sustainable than proof of work. But How is that notable? I suppose it may become notable if people start using it. But it isn't yet. But then, you might say that at least that source is telling us about a product. Except it is telling us about a product in 5ire's words with 5ire's diagrams and 5ire's examples. That piece is clearly not independent. So nope, we can't use that. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 18:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate the clarification. I think your last explanation was about Outlook, perhaps we discuss that another time, but for now. About 3 sources of Tech in Asia and 2 of The Economic Times ( 1, 2), based on the definitions in WP:CORPDEPTH and their absence in Examples of trivial coverage consider them as significant coverage. You asked about this company's product. Going back to the above comments posted by others. This company has a track record of providing service. I do not expect physical product/service from this company. Their collaborations are focused on delivering service, not on promoting each other or their own agendas. For example their collaboration with Goa Police was in order to digitize its operations and utilization of paperless document by using blockchain technology ( 3) and also delivered other services in their other collaborations. This company's product are its services. About its service delivery, I think it has been discussed enough here service delivery.Here is my analysis of several sources: Gedaali ( talk) 05:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
This company has a track record of providing service. No it doesn't. The example you cite is a Memorandum of Understanding to assist Goa police with something that is, in any case, unrelated to the blockchain. It is an MoU. They haven't done anything yet. This all looks like press release and vapourware. To be honest, at this point I am concerned this looks like an investor scam and we are being made participants in it. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 07:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
After reviewing all the comments that have been posted in this discussion so far, evidences and clues, I agree with you. Delete. Gedaali ( talk) 19:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
Economic Times [20] Yes Yes Yes Yes
Economic Times [21] Yes Yes Yes This article refers to the award of this company, but it also deals with other issues Yes
Tech in Asia [22] Yes Yes Yes I checked this from WP:CORPDEPTH and the entire article consists of more than ten paragraphs focusing on the company Yes
Tech in Asia [23] Yes Yes Yes Yes

For now, these 4 cases are enough for analysis. Gedaali ( talk) 05:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The question (as with many of these crypto articles...) seems to be whether the alleged fraud has generated enough in-depth coverage to merit inclusion. Citing ( talk) 15:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Reply to second table I have already explained to you that you should aggregate multiple sources from the same publisher. For notability purposes, sources must be unrelated to each other to be "multiple". per WP:MULTSOURCES. So your table simply repeats Economic Times that I felt did meet SIRS, and disagrees with my analysis on Tech in Asia based on a paragraph count rather than the content. The content on the first link to Tech in Asia does not meet CORPDEPTH, but I don't think you can have read that site very well because the 10 paragraphs are nothing much, but there are links in the article to two longer articles, which, along with your link [15], paint a picture that might suggest possible fraud. If there is a notable subject here, it is not the company itself, which doesn't seem to do anything at all. It is about a possible fraud. Citing also notices this in the comment above. Are we WP:TOOSOON for an article about the alleged fraud? Or could we be looking at renaming this article and repurposing based on reliable secondary coverage of alleged fraud? Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 07:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I am just going to expand on my view that there is no product here, because checking the crypto exchanges, you can actually buy 5irechain tokens [24] as of last December. Hopefully you didn't, as the price is falling... but meh, it's crypto. However that token would suggest there is a blockchain product. Except there isn't. Here is an announcement for what you can buy: [25]. This is an ERC-20 token which uses the Ethereum blockchain. So we still don't have any actual blockchain, and what we have is just another cryptocurrency token. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 10:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
this has no byline, neither does this which indicates NEWSORGINDIA. You will notice that second one starts with location which is classic press-release style confirming churnalism. For this and this are from a publication that does not appear to have editorial oversight. Not to mention the writer is a freelancer journalist who writes for many different publications. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 20:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is a company therefore GNG/ WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. In plain English, this means that references cannot rely *only* on information provided by the company - such as articles that rely entirely on quotations, press releases, announcements, interviews, website information, etc - even when slightly modified. If it isn't *clearly* showing independent content then it fails ORGIND. Looking at the references which other editors claim to pass GNG/NCORP in their analysis tables above:
    • TechInAsia Article 1 has insufficient in-depth information on the company from a source unaffiliated with the company, fails WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND
    • TechInAsia Article 2 ais commenting on the same story as Article 1, is little more than a gossip column but more importantly, has zero in-depth information about the company, also fails CORPDEPTH
    • Article 3 and Article 4 from TechInAsia also both fail for the same reason, there is insufficient in-depth information about the company.
    • There are a couple of articles in the Economic Times. This one is a puff profile based entirely on information provided by the company and their execs after their funding announcement, fails ORGIND and CORPDEPTH. This one also appears to rely entirely on information originating from the company or people connected with the company or investors. Fails CORPEPTH and ORGIND.
    • This from Inc42 is based entirely on an interview and information provided by the company, fails ORGIND
    • This in the Business Standard is also regurgitating information provided by the company in an announcement, fails ORGIND
    • This from MoneyControl fails for the same reason
    • This in Livemint is just one of many many article on this date regurgitating the company announcement. You can see a list of other articles on Crunchbase following the announcement. Fails ORGIND
None of the references meet GNG/ WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. It is a pity the source assessment table doesn't include a column for WP:CORPDEPTH and one for WP:ORGIND, it would make it easier to show why references fail GNG/NCORP. HighKing ++ 11:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • KEEP : after reading the article and checking with references I’ve removed some of the unreferenced content but company seems to be value adding in blockchain references are reliable NCORP is passed. Having multiple ref yet its not indepth I’m gonna leave it to the admin. HarryD ( talk) 20:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Having multiple ref yet its not indepth - That is not an NCORP pass. if a reference does not have significant coverage, it does not count towards notability. You can't aggregate lots of passing mentions. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 20:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Okay Understood. HarryD ( talk) 20:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep & Comment Indian company with 1 billion valuation which means unicorn since I can’t find any guideline for unicorn startups having an article here, but definitely seems notable to me in general though the article is unnecessarily at start class or more, only facts needs to be added. For me its a KEEP Because High value startup and has quiet a lot media presence other than just paid pieces. AnkkAnkur ( talk) 21:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC) AnkkAnkur ( talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply
    Yes, I’ve just started, was learning over the months understanding the policies when to add vote etc. its my favourite area now so my vote will not be considered? I’ve voted in other discussions as well :/ AnkkAnkur ( talk) 21:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    How have you been learning over the months without hands-on experience editing Wikipedia? If you have edited using an IP previously, please disclose the same in your user page and the areas where you have previously edited. Doing so will prevent other editors from assuming you are a single-purpose account. Either way, this conversation should continue on your talk page. Jeraxmoira🐉 ( talk) 21:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The available sources do not appear to meet any notability guideline currently in use on English Wikipedia, as opposed to colloquial definitions of the word. Alpha3031 ( tc) 11:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - These references all fall short of WP:ORGCRIT which is a requirement to meet to establish notability for companies. Every one of these publications allows pay-for-play and based on the bylines some of the clearly fall in that category. Add on WP:NEWSORGINDIA and I cannot find a single in-depth source that could be considered for notability. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 20:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Crypto fluff. Nearly every keep !voter has relatively few edits. I generally agree with Sirfurboy's source table but I would discount The Economic Times entirely as it is part of The Times of India, which is known to accept coverage for pay. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Lyle Adams

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Antonio Susini (baseball)

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Gergő Máté

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Máté played 67 mins of professional football then completely disappeared. I can't even find evidence of any statistical coverage of an amateur career. The best that I could find were Nemzeti Sport and Rangadó, both being trivial mentions and far from WP:SIGCOV. Also per WP:SPORTBASIC, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Szabolcs Horváth

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Played in 2 matches 15 years ago but has only played in the lower tiers since and does not seem to have any WP:SIGCOV. The best that I could find in Hungarian sources were HEOL, Rangadó and Nemzeti Sport, none of which are even close to being in-depth coverage. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Firside Junior School

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Fails GNG and NORG. Sources in article and BEFORE did not support notability. Found routine mill news, database records, etc, nothing establishing notability.

Being the "is the closest junior school in the United Kingdom to an airport" is not a basis for notability.  //  Timothy ::  talk  11:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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    Delete: nothing meeting WP:GNG User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hi, this is my first article, and, after reviewing your note, I agree that this article does not meet standards. Please proceed with the deletion. sledger ( talk) 20:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - It is a commendable good faith effort from a new user, but there is no claim to notability. I would support a redirect if there were a suitable target, but I don't see one. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep‎. Procedural close, this is a redirect not an article. It needs to be nominated at WP:RFD. Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Bharatiya Janata Party, Mrghalaya

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It's a typing error. Title doesn't make any sense. — Hemant Dabral ( 📞) 11:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete‎. Mojo Hand ( talk) 13:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Brian Grosz

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The article doesn't cite any sources (only linking the subject's MySpace profile and a music project's website) and I was unable to find significant coverage. There's an interview with the Dogs of Winter where Grosz speaks for the band, but interviews don't contribute to notability. Grosz is, of course, mentioned at least a few times on the website of the college he went to ( Vassar College), but that's not really anything either. I don't see an alternative to deletion. This is the page creator's only article, and it was previously speedy-deleted. toweli ( talk) 11:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Krankschaft

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Unreferenced article since 2012. Being the backing band of someone with a Wikipedia page and having members with Wikipedia pages does not make this band notable as notability is not inherited. A look online for significant coverage doesn't yield much - a post on jericsmith.com is a self-published blog, and I'm unable to find anything else substantial. InDimensional ( talk) 11:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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RYNA

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Nothing of notability in the article, a single TV appearance isn't enough for WP:BAND criteria. One member was in another band of notability, however notability is not inherited. A look online brings up no coverage whatsoever. InDimensional ( talk) 11:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Scarlet Carmina

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Only notability is having a song featured on a DVD release, they seem to not pass WP:BAND. Both references in the article are from very local news sources, and an online search brings up no additional coverage. InDimensional ( talk) 11:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 11:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The Reelers

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Unsourced since 2011, some moderate achievements in the lead section but not sure if enough to pass WP:BAND. A search on the web for references brings up nothing on them, even when including band members names into the search. InDimensional ( talk) 11:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete I have found a reference that verifies the live session on BBC London, and added it to the article. Apart from that I've come up empty; even the claim to have played Glastonbury is debunked as they don't appear on the listings. Seems like a promising group that has now disappeared. Unfortunately I just don't see a page being justified given WP:MUSICBIO guidelines. Resonant Distortion 19:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was Speedy keep. WP:SNOW. ( non-admin closure)GRuban ( talk) 13:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Russell Bentley

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This individual is of little notability. Barely covered in any media. He only recently resurfaced due to being missing. Definitely does not deserve his own article. BeŻet ( talk) 10:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep, given more than 3 independent sources, all national newspapers or news sources, over a period of time (2015 to 2022), having him as the primary (or one of the primary) subjects of the articles; reaches WP:NBASIC. Klbrain ( talk) 12:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Definitely notable, I found his name in Russian press and started googling. Lots of coverage. Tiphareth ( talk) 16:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, per above. Providing one more additional link btw. [31] PoisonHK Sapiens dominabitur astris 10:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, people have short memories but Bentley received a lot of coverage in 2014 when he first went to fight with the separatists. He was interviewed at the time by Vice and Newsweek. He has not only just become of interest due to reports of his alleged disappearance. -- Katangais (talk) 16:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, He is now reported mudered. I looked up this article when I saw a report of his death PeterNimmo ( talk) 16:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep, He has been a subject of interest many times since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine in 2014. 2600:1007:B037:10F5:1556:E6F3:9C9A:6781 ( talk) 19:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, per Klbrain and Katangais. Multiple, independent reliable sources over a period of time should demonstrate notability. ⁂CountHacker ( talk) 20:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was merge‎ to CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. plicit 14:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of episodic appearances in CID

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Everything mentioned here (and more) is (or can be) covered in CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. Recommend redirect. - MPGuy2824 ( talk) 09:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Please give me 2 days of time so that I can add a long list of names so that this article is independent enough. Please don't delete this article. 103.87.143.74 ( talk) 05:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Please read WP:NLIST and add enough applicable references that discuss the list (and not just the list entries). AfDs last for a week at minimum, so you have lots of time. - MPGuy2824 ( talk) 06:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Desertarun ( talk) 16:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Intercontinental Hotel Bali

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep ( talk) 09:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Sarangapany, Veda (2011-05-29). "Warming to the Bali buzz". The Sydney Morning Herald. ProQuest  869129621. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "I decide to celebrate with breakfast; there are three restaurants - Bella Singaraja, Jimbaran Gardens and KO - as well as poolside service. The scrambled eggs are light and fluffy and the coffee is good. I wish I could fit in more. Tomorrow morning, perhaps. Next stop is the Club InterContinental pool. I don't have far to go and there are plenty of lounges or, if you want some privacy, you can stake your claim on a bungalow. I can see Jimbaran Bay from the pool and know I should drag myself off my lounger to check it out."

    2. McCabe, Christine (2009-03-07). "The butler did it - Asian Holidays". The Australian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The Imperial is the flagship of a premium collection of rooms at InterContinental Bali, including five categories of suites designed to replicate the villa experience that has become so popular on this Indonesian holiday island. These suites are located within Club InterContinental, a collection of 110 elegant rooms that operates as a hotel within a hotel supporting its own management, housekeeping and engineering teams. ... The new-look guestroom decor (the hotel was renovated last year) features indigenous timbers and batiks, gorgeous marble bathrooms, flat-screen tellies and all the latest whiz-bangery. The value-added nature of the club is popular with Australian travellers; it's excellent for families, given the free kids' club, beachfront locale and enormous complex of swimming pools. But the resort is just as delightful for couples, who can enjoy the privacy of the Club wing."

    3. Rosenfeld, Kelly (2024-02-29). "Review: InterContinental Bali Resort". TravelAge West. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "Originally opened in 1993, InterContinental Bali was one of the first luxury properties built on the coastline of Jimbaran Bay (in southern Bali), a stunning stretch of clean, white-sand beach that hotel guests have direct access to from the resort grounds. ... A guestroom renovation project took place from 2017 to 2019 and was followed by a second phase that updated public areas, including its multiple pools, restaurants, the lobby and the ballroom, which was transformed into meeting space in 2022. During my stay, the main Nirvana pool was also undergoing a since-completed refresh to be in tip-top shape for the coming high season."

    4. Smiedt, David (2022-11-30). "We stayed at… Intercontinental Bali. Fresh from a million dollar refurb, this grand old dame of the Bali hotel scene has rediscovered her sparkle". Escape. Nationwide News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The property is immaculate - so much so it feels cleverly art directed - with traditional style fountains, bridges and so many pools and koi ponds that we stopped counting after a bit. As far as facilities and activities go, the Planet Trekkers kids club has a distinct eco focus, there's a Technogym laden fitness centre, tennis courts, yoga, kite making and bike tours of the local markets."

    5. Fordham, James (2018-08-20). "Review: InterContinental Bali, Jimbaran". Executive Traveller. Business Travel Media. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The resort itself is a large property stretching all the way down to Jimbaran Beach. With six pools, multiple restaurants and expansive immaculately manicured gardens it can take a little while to get your bearings, but friendly staff are always nearby should you need assistance. In the notoriously high turnover hospitality industry, I met several staff that had worked there since the resort opened in 1993 - after 25 years of working there, these staff were still passionate, friendly, knowledgeable and service-driven, which was a pleasant surprise."

    6. "travel42 Hotel Review: InterContinental Resort Bali". Travel Weekly. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "The InterContinental Resort looks out across Jimbaran Bay to the distant airport. This means that the ride to the property is much shorter than to Nusa Dua or Ubud, making it popular with shorter-stay or late night-arriving guests. Its architecture was designed to honor the sacred axis between the mountain and sea. In a recent makeover, decorators followed the tri hita karana principle that balances the ideals of God, nature, and humanity."

    7. McCabe, Christine (2007-08-11). "Stay and Play - Family Holidays". The Australian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "On Bali's Jimbaran Bay, the glamorous InterContinental Bali Resort operates one of the best children's clubs on the island. Dubbed Club J, this extensive facility functions as a resort within a resort replete with large airconditioned clubhouse, outdoor swimming pool, climbing frame, mini basketball compound and a popular internet cave."

    8. Lees, Rachel (2023-06-22). "10 tropical family resorts to blow your mind". Escape. Nationwide News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.

      The review notes: "A luxurious take on a traditional Balinese fishing village, the 430-room InterContinental Bali Resort in Jimbaran has all the mod cons you’d expect of a five-star hotel. But the resort’s activities, a deep-dive into Balinese culture, make it a standout. Families can learn traditional net fishing and kite-making, and when the grown-ups need a break, the Planet Trekkers kids’ club instructs four- to 12-year-olds in Balinese dance, Bahasa language and the art of preparing traditional Balinese offerings. There’s also a professional nanny service for children under four. "

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Intercontinental Hotel Bali to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".

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  • Keep Notable hotel with plenty of potential sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. All the references provided above are essentially reviews from past customers, and I don't consider reviews from past customers to be a reliable source due to their lack of editorial oversight, IMO they should be regarded as user generated content WP:USERGENERATED. Additionally, I couldn't find any sources about this hotel that are not past reviews or coming from travel agencies (such as Expedia, etc.), hence it fails significant coverage requirement. Ckfasdf ( talk) 12:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Clearly notable. Cunard has dug up plenty of reliable, independent, in-depth discussions of the hotel, which could be used for an extensive article. It would be surprising if a hotel of this size and calibre had not been noted. Aymatth2 ( talk) 12:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 ( talk) 16:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. PhantomSteve/ talk¦ contribs\ 10:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Club Med Ria Bintan

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep ( talk) 08:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep Appropriately sourced, meets requirements.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Hotels reply
  • Keep. Well sourced and clearly notable. Aymatth2 ( talk) 13:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 08:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Mayang Sari Beach Resort

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Fails WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep ( talk) 08:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete, no independent source provided. Neocorelight ( Talk) 03:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 ( talk) 13:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I pumped the article up a bit. There are plenty of sources, including various books, unfortunately mostly just in snippet view. Aymatth2 ( talk) 14:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Notable beach resort...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 08:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Moderate nationalism

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The content of this article seems to be a WP:REDUNDANTFORK that entirely overlaps with information already on the Civic nationalism page. Is there any appetite for deletion on this, or perhaps any other, basis? Yr Enw ( talk) 08:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus‎. CBE meets weak sourcing. No indication a 3rd relist would change the split here. Star Mississippi 01:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Leslie Butterfield

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of WP:notability under SNG or GNG. Basically a promotional -resume. The lead just says that he is a British brand and communications expert.

The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source.

Some concern that the creator has 28 lifetime edits, all on this article. Article was tagged for UPE concern by somebody else and the tag was quickly removed by an IP. The IP that removed it has 2 lifetime edits...one removing the tag and the other putting a link at another article to this article. North8000 ( talk) 03:18, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Actually, looking at it again, I think it's obvious that there's an undeclared COI here and I'm going to tag the article accordingly. 07:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Dozens every year in a country of 67 million is not many! These are highly prestigious honours. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
While I think that wp:notability does unofficially take real world notability into account a bit, for biographies the core of it is about available of GNG sources from which to build an article. As I noted in the nomination "The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source. " Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 15:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Neutral - I added the Authority control template at the bottom of the article. For what it's worth, that did kick up VIAF hits in multiple languages that show his woks are in various international libraries. Seems to me that makes him notable. — Maile ( talk) 14:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Changing to Neutral. I am not British. and not knowledgeable on the subject matter. — Maile ( talk) 15:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Dialdirect

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Cannot find any sources proving notable, other than advertising. Not to be confused with the UK company "Dial Direct". GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 05:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete: Amount of failed verifications makes me wonder if aside from the from the company existing, the rest of the article is fictitious. -- D'n'B- t -- 10:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

The Defiant (band)

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A newly created band consisting of notable members fails to establish independent notability. I tried, but couldn't find significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. A Google News search yielded some sources, but they mostly consist of passing mentions or routine coverage. IMO, it fails to meet the criteria outlined in WP:NBAND and is a possible case of WP:NOTINHERITED. GSS💬 07:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep meets WP:BAND#C6, coverage in the Boston Globe and Phoenix New Times. Mach61 08:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I doubt these sources discuss the band in detail; rather, they likely provide routine coverage. GSS💬 08:45, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ GSS why are you writing this as if you haven't actually read the linked articles Mach61 17:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    That's your assumption; nothing else. Could you explain how the sources you mentioned above satisfy WP:INDEPTH? GSS💬 17:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ GSS The New Times piece is over 1000 words long Tangential:INDEPTH links to WP:Notability (events), which is obviously not applicable in this case. Perhaps you caught a case of WP:UPPERCASE? Mach61 18:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    ⁤I agree that the article is lengthy, but it seems to lack sufficient independent focus on the band itself. ⁤⁤Throughout this article, the band's name is mentioned only five times, excluding the title and image description, and often in passing. ⁤⁤It's quite normal to receive such attention in the media when the subject is linked to notable people. ⁤⁤However, as of now, since the band was formed, it hasn't achieved anything notable. ⁤⁤They have released a few single and only one album, and that too on a non-notable label. ⁤⁤While the band has garnered some attention because of its notable founding members, this doesn't establish independent notability. Therefore, I would say it's too soon for an independent article until the band becomes independently notable. GSS💬 04:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ GSS Your statement that Throughout this article, the band's name is mentioned only five times, excluding the title and image description, and often in passing} is nonsensical, the term "passing mention" refers to coverage 1-2 sentences long in an article. Obviously, an article about the band is not a passing mention of them.
    Your statement that the band hasn't "achieved" anything notable is just an opinion; I've already shown two sources covering them in detail Mach61 23:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: Meets WP:NMUSIC#6 and #12 (featured on Jimmy Kimmel Live). I don't think the Boston Globe article meets SIGCOV because it only really states the band has formed and the members; the rest of it is about Barrett and the Bosstone's. However, the Phoenix New Times does meet SIGCOV with a nice overview of their debut album which in combination with the other criteria, gets it over the hump for me. S0091 ( talk) 15:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Rayyanza Malik Ahmad

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Another case of WP:INVALIDBIO. Child's notability is solely attributed to their parent, and it's highly unlikely for a two-year-old to have achieved notable accomplishments. Ckfasdf ( talk) 09:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep‎. plicit 00:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of loanwords in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

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Ehrmagerd, werds! As interesting as I find this, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. PepperBeast (talk) 12:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep: the introduction is clearly not a dictionary. the list defines some words but is mostly serving the functions of a list. should be fine enough as is to keep that too User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 16:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and this article is not a dictionary entry. I don't know what gave the nom the idea that articles about linguistics and etymology are somehow not encyclopedic, prompting them to launch their current "Ehrmagerd, werds!" deletion campaign. Owen× 14:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Does not read like a dictionary entry, it is a list – and a quality one at that. ~ Dictionary ( talk) 15:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 06:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

MontageJS

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Currently unreferenced save for an arstechnica piece written by the creators of the framework. Searches on Google result in either Yellowpages-style listings or Githubs. Books return in trivial mentions in author biographies. The fact that the author was SPA on this topic does not help. For these reasons I believe it fails GNG. Good day— RetroCosmos talk 04:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Just looked at their website. Copyright 2017. Another framework that didn't get off the ground. — Sean Brunnock ( talk) 14:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

2018 Garland mayoral special election

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Article was incorrectly PRODed [32] after being through an AfD at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mayoral_elections. I WP:REFUNDed it and brought it here. While incorrectly applied, the PROD put it best: "Routine election in suburban city, local coverage of routine results only without evidence of notability." Nickps ( talk) 20:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment My fault with the PROD. I missed a small "afd" edit summary in the page history. Usually edit summaries for AFD nominations are a little more prominent. Did you have the article restored and brought it here to AFD simply because I made a mistake in the PROD 3 years ago? Seems a little bureaucracy for its own sake. Liz Read! Talk! 02:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Nom is correct in their assessment of the article's notability, though there was no need to undelete it. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I need to explain my rationale here. Since most of the articles from the original AfD still exist (and the ones that don't are merged somewhere else), to me that looks like there is consensus that this content belongs on WP. The fact that I personally think this shouldn't be the case is irrelevant. Had I phrased this as a purely procedural AfD without endorsing the PROD's reasoning it would have been clearer. Nickps ( talk) 12:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. Unexciting but notable. Elections are never routine. The two relistings suggest to me that AfD participants are being overwhelmed by the volume of nominations. Perhaps we need to tweak policy – so that a few more small-town mayors and random psychology professors are allowed in – in order to keep AfD at a manageable level. I find using Google Translate to make sense of Indonesian-language articles that are better than their English-language counterparts is increasingly draining. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 03:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Ow, I would love to see more articles about mayors in small towns/municipalities. The Netherlands had many tiny municipalities (often with less then 500 inhabitants). That those municipalities often survived only a few years is a small detail. The Banner  talk 16:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) No worries. It is true but I am not going to spend time on that. reply
  • Delete Nothing really here. Wikipedia is not a database of election results. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Per NOTDIR and nom. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, Pppery, and The Herald. Every local election gets local coverage, which is insufficient to show encyclopedic notability. BD2412 T 02:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. revised article per the improvements made during this discussion. As for whether this should be subsequently moved or split, that's editorial and doesn't need a relist. Star Mississippi 01:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Stars and planetary systems in fiction

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This is an extreme (almost 400kb) case of fancrufty "list of appearances of foo topic in every imaginable work" (books, comics, games...). The topic may be notable (recent talk discussion suggests User:TompaDompa, who has an established record of getting similar topics to Good Article and beyond, tried to rewrite this but was thwarted - reverted - at some point and possibly gave up), Our execution is abysmally bad and begs for WP:TNT - after tiny prose lead, this is just a WP:IPC-violating list of random examples. I.e. this is another de facto list that fails WP:LISTN, a simple WP:INDISCRIMINATE listing of all instances a star or planet appeared in a work of fiction ( WP:NOTTVTROPES). If we were to approach it as an article, beyond its lead, it is a major fail of WP:V and WP:OR). No prejudice to this being turned into a prose-based stub or start-class if anyone (TompaDompa?) wants to work on this, otherwise we may have to redirect it or just delete it, I am afraid. Note that this list is still growing with unrerenced ORish content (see diff from late March). Sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep (EDIT:ADDED: or replace with TompaDompa's version linked below), this is a well-organized and full article. You may not like lists like this,ad but that is no reason to delete. Some of the listings may be O.R., but, like many pages like this, the discussed information may be found at the linked articles. It provides a great deeal of encyclopedic knowledge, is easy to read, and gives readers an adequate exploration of the topic. Randy Kryn ( talk) 03:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Randy Kryn: We are not TV Tropes. TV Tropes content is not useless, and I like TV Tropes, but this list belongs on TV Tropes. There is precedent that these lists are unacceptable on Wikipedia. QuicoleJR ( talk) 12:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Also, there is no reason that the "In popular culture" content can't be on the star pages, except if it is unacceptable content. QuicoleJR ( talk) 12:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    TV tropes is an essay, it can be summarized as "I don't like it". I've seen this TV tropes argument come up a lot in these list discussions. Some of us like the 'In popular culture' lists and find them informative and encyclopedic, some don't. This one works and should be kept to entries which have linked articles. Randy Kryn ( talk) 13:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Essays are easy to dismiss. How about policies like WP:OR? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Randy Kryn: NOTINDISCRIMINATE is policy, and it says we should not be indiscriminately listing everything in a broad topic, like works of fiction that take place near stars that aren't the Sun. Making such a list would also arguably violate our policy on original research, as we are grouping articles together in a way that is not based on what the sources say, and there is no real navigational purpose. QuicoleJR ( talk) 19:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Keeping the current version of the article is a complete non-starter. It contains blatant WP:OR, improper use of primary sources, misrepresentations of sources, and outright WP:PLAGIARISM all in the very first section. That being said, it could be fixed. Here's what a starting point for that might look like: Special:PermaLink/1218679535.
    It's not like we cannot have high-quality articles on topics like this— Mars in fiction, Venus in fiction, and Sun in fiction are all WP:Featured articles—but the bulk of the nearly 400 kB here consists of a TV Tropes-style list with absolutely atrocious sourcing. The article has become a dumping ground for garbage "In popular culture" content to keep it out of the articles on the stars themselves. I would certainly be in favour of keeping the article provided that it is cleaned up properly (which in this case would mean rewriting it pretty much from scratch). As the nomination alludes to, I did just that back in 2021, which caused something of a ruckus and was reverted—the PermaLink above is a minimally tweaked version of what I came up with back then. I have since located additional sources that would be useful for writing a proper article on the topic, but have held off on doing so lest it be perceived as trying to force my preferred version through and causing another stir. TompaDompa ( talk) 04:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'd be happy to withdraw this if the version is replaced by https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=1218679535 and not reverted back as I gather happened before. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or rewrite The current list is definitely not something we can keep. However, TompaDompa's version of the article does seem like an acceptable article. QuicoleJR ( talk) 12:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

*Delete as it currently is. The current article is rife with a multitude of pretty major issues as described already - poor sourcing, WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH and content that blatantly goes against WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. If the current content was replaced by the draft shared by TompaDompa above, then I would be happy to keep that version, but this current list should absolutely not be retained as it is. Rorshacma ( talk) 03:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - As the previous list has been replaced by a sourced prose article, I am striking my previous recommendation to Delete. As shown by the discussions below, there is still some discussion to be had regarding the final organization of the information here, such as should it be merged anywhere or split into more than one topic, but that can be discussed after the AFD closes if needed. As far as the current AFD is concerned, I do not believe there is any cause for a deletion at this point. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:SALAT. Far too broad to be useful. A sizable chunk of science fiction involves other planets and star systems. (Also, no Ringworld?) Clarityfiend ( talk) 11:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Note, then why not just go with the version by TompaDompa mentioned and linked above? If the nominator said they'd withdraw the nom if that version is used, and !voters agree, I'm not understanding the problem, which seems to have that easy solution. Randy Kryn ( talk) 12:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - As TompaDompa said, they attempted to rewrite the article to the version they proposed back in 2021, and after lengthy pushback on the Talk page, it was reverted back to the current version of the article. As they said that they were hesitant on changing it back to their version to avoid looking like they were independently ignoring that previous discussion, I made the statement that I would remove my recommendation to Delete if their version were used instead in order to hopefully show a consensus for them to go ahead with that rewrite. I'd imagine the other commenters and nom have similar thinking. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Randy Kryn Maybe ping those editors and ask? Not everybody follows discussions after commenting. I concur that deleting is strictly inferior to replacing this with something else. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not an editor, just a lowly user, but I just wanted to say I love this page and use it all the time to suggest colony names when I'm gaming. I'll be sad to see it go.
Will the historical versions of this page still be available once it's gone. 108.31.3.18 ( talk) 02:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
If it does get deleted, try the Wayback Machine as it has numerous backups of the page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 04:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I hear you, and I hope this will be preserved in history. Even better - if someone would care enough to copy this to TVTROPES... maybe you'd like to help? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Move (or just merge? It wasn't the original scope of the article) to Planets in science fiction to tighten the scope and make it less arbitrary. Merge the "stars" section to Star, adding an "in fiction" section. I assume it must have had one at some point, but probably got spun off to sweep the cruft under the rug. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 05:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:HEY (assuming it is kept as the TompaDompa prose version). It really can't be kept the way it was though, per all the arguments made above. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 18:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. This is a perfectly good article, or at any rate capable of being so, at least in the form I am seeing, which is possibly after some WP:HEY work has been done. Maybe it was bad before. I mean it is original work, yes, so are very many things that we have here. List of statues of Queen Victoria and many scores of thousands of articles like that. If we had to copy a list that someone else made for articles like that, it'd be plagiarism, which'd be worse, and copyvio too really.
    Everything we do, creating articles by choosing and melding material from various sources, deciding what belongs and what doesn't, is original work, for goodness' sake. WP:OR is to be invoked when there's a problem. There's no problem here, it's just incomplete. Sure the article could become really big, maybe too big (but I mean adding material to articles so that they become bigger is not a bad thing), in which case it can be split up or trimmed using some reasonable criteria. Sure, there are articles that don't belong here on account of being too detailed about a subject. But this isn't one.
    Also I dislike terms like "fancrufty", which doesn't put me in a receptive mood as it just bourgeois snobbery and indicates that you are coming the matter with prejudgement, particularly when we are talking about "science fiction in general" rather than "Star Wars" or something. I'd prefer if terms like that are avoided. Herostratus ( talk) 06:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Herostratus: If you are curious, this is what the article looked like when it was nominated. Which obviously bears very little resemblance to the current version. TompaDompa ( talk) 14:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Wait wait wait wut? Keep and restore. Y'all practically erased the article. Why. Why would you do that. What do you think we are trying to do here??? It was better before. Well, after the article is kept we can talk about that I suppose.
    As I said, original research is only a problem if its a problem. If you're synthesizing a new idea, or implying something in error. The idea here seems to be "Lots of science fiction stories have stars and planets in them", which is not a new idea. It's just true. If you're saying the idea is "Lots of science fiction stories have stars and planets in them, and we're cherry-picking only some of them to make some point", that's not true. The writers are not doing that. It's just that the article is not complete. So what is the problem? Don't WP:SHOUT in ALL CAPS at me about this rule and that rule. We all know there are a lot of rules here, many contradictory, and that the devil can quote scripture. Tell me in plain English why you all want to prevent the reader from getting access to this information. It's not like we're trying to decide if its worth our time to make this article. Somebody already has. It's just a question of whether or not to increase entropy by scattering this information to the wind.
    The "primary-secondary-tertiary" rubric is taken from academia. It is fine for academia (I guess) but for what we are trying to do here, not so much. It's one data point of many to consider, yes. But don't give me four legs good two legs bad. We're supposed to be using our brains here. We are talking about throwing a fair amount of some people's work into the dustbin. Tell me why, in this article, the use of primary sources degrades the reader's experience. Can you? I'm all ears. Should the article include only those entities where some obscure reviewer has randomly happened to note "This article takes place on Alph Woo" and not include those where the review randomly hasn't? Why. Why. Good grief.
    It there's stuff that's not ref'd, ref it. If you don't have the time or interest to do that (quite understandable), tag it. If there's reason to believe it's maybe not true, delete it. Keep in mind that, for good or ill, works of literature are considered reliable sources for their own contents here. We don't need refs to describe the contents or plot of a movie or book, the rubric is "To check the accuracy of this data, get a copy of the book". Otherwise 90%+ of our plot sections of books and movies would have to be deleted.
    Sorry to be harsh, but if you all are going to be trying to pull stuff like this, you are going to be called to task. It's depressing to see what we are more and more becoming. Herostratus ( talk) 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    In plain English, compiling raw data about works of fiction is not Wikipedia's purpose, nor is analysing the same (it is, however, TV Tropes' and Wikia/ Fandom's purpose). Compiling analysis about works of fiction made by others is, however. The latter approach has resulted in several WP:Featured articles: Mars in fiction, Venus in fiction, and Sun in fiction. TompaDompa ( talk) 20:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Clarksdale, Indiana

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A "no there there" intersection, there's a single house and that's it. Searching is masked by the place in Mississippi but turned up nothing. Mangoe ( talk) 02:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. Though it appears as a named point on topo maps [33], there's nothing actually there except an unremarkable intersection, and I see no sign of it on any historical maps. ╠╣uw [ talk 13:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The Brown County Democrat mentions it once. Coverage goes back to 1914. It doesn't appear in the book "From Needmore to Prosperity : Hoosier place names in folklore and history" either. Something was probably there at one time, but I don't know what it was. James.folsom ( talk) 22:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

List of first-class cricket centuries by W. G. Grace

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The cricketer does not even have the most number of first class cricket centuries. For example, Jack Hobbs does not have a page for his fc centuries. For convention, this has beend done for cricketers having more than 25 international centuries. Hence, this article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharaoh496 ( talkcontribs) 06:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep I understand the motive for this nomination, given we usually have limit the number of articles like this to record holders for nations etc, but given Grace is probably one of the games greatest players, and one of the players instrumental in the development of the game an article like this, which is incredibly well sourced and deemed good enough to be a featured article is good enough to keep it. There is coverage in articles of his hundreds also, whether in biographies, or more recently in debate whether or not one of many of his hundreds were first class. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 09:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    There would be as good players. People can make properly sources articles - but its first class, and not international test cricket; not being as notable Pharaoh496 ( talk) 09:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    This is irrelevant, as there's significant coverage of his centuries. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 17:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Don’t make rules by your own. It doesn’t matter if he’s the highest century scorer or not. The minimum threshold of 25 int. centuries is an informal guideline. The fact is that his centuries have been discussed and received coverage in multiple books and online articles. Clearly satisfies the criteria of WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. RoboCric Let's chat 14:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep his centuries are covered in multiple books, and therefore passes WP:GNG and WP:NLIST, particularly One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Notable Page and clearly passes WP:GNG coverage. 103.121.36.100 ( talk) 03:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC). reply
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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Irena Justine

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Fails WP:GNG, most of these sources barely seem to qualify this person as notable. Allan Nonymous ( talk) 01:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. I agree, the article subject doesn’t meet notability requirements. Nate Higgers ( talk) 02:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. And improve with the help of the (WP) pages in Indonesian about her and the films/series she played in, and that seem to show she meets WP:NACTOR although she died young.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. According to WP:NACTOR, the individual must have had substantial roles in various notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. However, the person in question does not meet this requirement, as they have never portrayed lead roles or appeared in notable films. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Seems important, and references seem legit. In general, multiple references talking about the subject like this is probably enough to indicate notability. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 17:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply

:*Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [34]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [35] [36]. 202.43.93.9 ( talk) 03:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. I added some references from the Indonesian article. I think she had many important roles. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 02:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Subjects who are notable in Indonesia are just as important as subjects who are notable in the US, and article editors are improving the references. rspεεr ( talk) 17:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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