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1. Why did you delete my page when I hadn't finished writing it?
- Answer: Don't create new articles unless you are sure they meet wikipedia's criteria, particularly notability and verifiability. If you want to practice, there is the sandbox facility and Wikipedia:Articles for creation where you can get a second opinion from a more experienced contributor. And if you really can't help yourself, use {{underconstruction}} so other people will know you are still working on it.
2. Why did you delete my page for advertising? I wasn't trying to advertise!
- Answer: Read Wikipedia:NPOV for guidance on how to word an article so that it doesn't sound like an advertisement.
3. Why did you delete my page for advertising? It was about a non-profit organisation!
- Answer: Non-profit organisations advertise all the time - it's still promotion and the rule applies to them just as it does to commercial bodies. See no 2 above.
4. Why did you delete my article without warning?
- Answer: Because you are not entitled to a warning if you don't follow the guidelines. See no 1 above.
5. Why didn't you do a google search and find references for my article and put them in for me instead of just deleting it?
- Answer: Because I don't have time to do the boring bits for you. I have enough boring bits of my own to work on, thank you.
6. You have a very interesting view of neutrality. The authors you give credence to have a definite point of view and you discount those that disagree.
- Answer: There is of course no answer because this is not a question. It's a snide comment added by someone who doesn't understand the NPOV rule. Possibly a Ricardian revisionist.
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Deletion review for X-42 Pop-Up Upper Stage
An editor has asked for a deletion review of X-42 Pop-Up Upper Stage. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E ( talk) 15:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Deletion review for Okoo
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Okoo. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5D74:4C06:438E:102E ( talk) 15:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- @ Debyou'll have to excuse my amature attempt at creating a legit wiki page, I am not trying hide anything, it is not easy creating a page here on Wikipedia.
- I also didnt relaise I can add 'under construction' so people do not constantly delete my work.
- Ill try again, for the 3rd time, to create a legit page about a real martial artist, following Wikipedia's many rules.
- Greg Gjwillis ( talk) 15:49, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Deletion review for Elizabeth Shown Mills
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Elizabeth Shown Mills. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 17:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I am here because you deleted the article, but not to disagree with your deletion. I can see that reasonable editors can disagree as to the interpretation of G11. I think that if more than half of the article needs to be deleted as promotional filler, it is exclusively promotional. I see that other editors disagree. Robert McClenon ( talk) 01:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm not too bothered either way. I go by the maxim that, if you do a lot of work, you make mistakes. Only if you do nothing constructive can you be perfect at what you do.
Deb (
talk) 08:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that you made a mistake anyway. You were in a minority. There were at least three editors who thought it was G11, the nominator, you, and me. Being in a minority does not mean being wrong, and it does not mean that the majority was wrong. It just means that there two opinions, and one of them was in the majority. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it is based on articles for similar academics. The information listed is all about their professional activities, showing in particular that they have had substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity. They are also the lead editor of an influential encyclopedia in their field.
I am an academic in a related field, but not close to the subject, I was advising my colleague Dr Sio on how to create the page.
Please restore it. Francis Bond ( talk) 15:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Now that you have outed the author of the article, you've also confirmed that she has a personal connection with the subject. You should have informed her that she must declare a
conflict of interest. If a decision is made to restore the article, it will be tagged as a COI.
Deb (
talk) 15:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I am sorry it is my first wikipedia article, I was not aware of the COI, which I would gladly declare. The last time I collaborated academically with the subject was 2008. We are not in the same university. I wanted to add a page for him because I noticed that he didn't have a page, and I think he is well-respected in the field. Where should I declare my COI?
Olomoonlady (
talk) 16:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- You can do this on your user page and also in the Talk page for the article. It is highly advisable for new contributors to create articles in draft space and submit them for review before attempting to put them into main space. I will remove some of the promotional content from your article and put it into draft, but you will need to submit for review so that you can get feedback from other users. Deb ( talk) 16:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Further guidance is available at Help:Your first article. Deb ( talk) 16:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I am sorry it is my first wikipedia article, I was not aware of the COI, which I would gladly declare. The last time I collaborated academically with the subject was 2008. We are not in the same university. I wanted to add a page for him because I noticed that he didn't have a page, and I think he is well-respected in the field. Where should I declare my COI?
Olomoonlady (
talk) 16:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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Is it possible that's the patent nonsense LTA? I'm hesitant to open an SPI given that the title is in French rather than English. Phönedinger's jellyfish II ( talk) 19:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't familiar with that user but it does sound as though it could be. Do you feel I should block that user?
Deb (
talk) 07:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure. The draft text just seemed to be a poop joke, albeit a nonsensical one, and most of their enwiki nonsense has been in English and not are French. The account (I haven't checked since the draft got deleted) does match up with the username trends and behavior (create draft then vanish). I'll probably just file an SPI since it's a strong "maybe" at best. Phönedinger's jellyfish II ( talk) 16:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
The article I had written was not promotional and only included topics such as History, Field of work and Professional Bodies for Social Workers in India. I had even submitted appropriate links and sources.
Reactivate the page or I will be forced to appeal it. NoworNever007 ( talk) 17:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
About Draft:Adidas Top Ten - thank you for thanking me, but I do note this muddle-headed wombat may possibly have gotten things wrong here
@ DrowssapSMM, Voorts, LeDroider, Bruxton, and Deb: I declined the WP:G6 speedy deletion of that draft, and somehow Adidas Top Ten still redirects to Adidas. I *think* I was right to decline the speedy as the draft had not been assessed by an AFC reviewer as ready for articlespace, but as something of a muddle-headed wombat when it comes to these technical sort of things, there is a good chance I got it wrong. Your thoughts about this? Shirt58 ( talk) 🦘 09:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with what you did. There seems to be a lot of this stuff going on at the moment - people nominating unreviewed drafts for speedy deletion in the hope that we won't notice. However, the risk with a redirect is that they will simply add their text into the redirect and no one will notice. So I think I would have protected the page if there is any reason to suppose this might happen.
Deb (
talk) 11:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a risk in this case. It's been almost two months since I draftified and nothing has happened. Perhaps Drowssap forgot to put the article under review before requesting G6. In any event, I don't think the draft is ready for mainspace. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 14:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- @ Shirt58 I think declining the G6 is correct. Adidas Top Ten redirects to Adidas because I draftified that article and then removed the R2 tag and redirected to Adidas instead. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 14:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Shirt58, DrowssapSMM, Voorts, LeDroider, Bruxton, and Deb: Does this mean the page is good to revert back to the original? Can I create the page then for Adidas Top Ten? LeDroider ( talk) 03:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- If you feel you must do so, create the page in draft, not in mainspace, and submit for review. Deb ( talk) 10:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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That article wasn't meant to look like an advertisement in any manner. I don't know why you called it such. Now how do I get it restored to further improve? An undeletion request failed. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Why did you move it from draft - twice - without waiting for it to pass review?
Deb (
talk) 08:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have an agreement? We can restore this as a draft and then wait for it to pass? I just wish you had prodded it instead of unilaterally deleting it. That way I could have at least been notified and started improving the article to remove "mistakes". Kailash29792 (talk) 08:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Deb, when in doubt, you may tag it for CSD and let another admin take a call. And it's a good practice to do so even when not in doubt, unless it is a most obvious case. That way we have at least 2 editors having had a look at the page before deletion. I see we
discussed about it before, and I did let it go at the time as I didn't argue as to why it was not a "most obvious case". I would see the current Senbaga Thottam deletion as a poor unilateral delete.
WP:DRAFTOBJECT is allowed, and if you have a concern as an editor, you could AfD the article. If you find valid reasons for speedy, tag it. If you find concerns as an admin, and no one has tagged a page for speedy, you will have to have good reasons to justify a unilateral delete.
Jay
💬 09:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Jay. And I find Deb's arguments - that the article looked like an "advertisement" - unconvincing. Either way I have submitted it for AfC again and hope it gets accepted. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's kind of you, but no two cases are alike, as those administrators who try to keep spam under control will be aware. I am pretty confused as to why the creator kept moving this article around, into and out of draft, under different names. It achieves nothing to argue the toss after an amicable compromise has been reached.
Deb (
talk) 14:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- I hope this comes to an amicable conclusion after I share the complete fact: I started the article under the title Shenbaga, but moved it to draft as it was still sketchy. After completing work, I moved it back to the mainspace with the spelling Senbaga as it is correct. That's where I guess things fell apart, and Deb, I apologise for my indecision. I hope we can see the article back in the mainspace as I've done my best to make it look non-promotional. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
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Requesting urgent assist in WP:ANI
Hey there Deb. Could you help take a look on this issue? Said IP address is acting in bad faith, refusing to cooperate or engage in discussions in their talk page, and even being aggresive and accused me of being a "racist" in bad faith on ANI. This is very unbecoming of a responsible editor. Appreciate your help on this. Thanks. hundenvonPG ( talk) 12:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Deb, I saw your warning, but that IP address is persisting with their behaviour (adding scripts wholesale). I think action has to be taken.
hundenvonPG (
talk) 13:06, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll check back later.
Deb (
talk) 13:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- He is making racist statement by calling Jawi "unexplained arabic-like scripts" while he knows as a Malaysian that the script is a Jawi script and is used to write the Malay language alongside Latin.
180.75.238.55 (
talk) 13:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's not a racist statement - don't falsely accuse other contributors.
Deb (
talk) 13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That is a Racist statement, he continuously make complains against the Jawi script. That is a racism because he knows Jawi is the traditional script of Malay language. 180.75.238.55 ( talk) 13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I challenge him to give me proof that Chinese and Tamil are official languages of Malaysia because he puts Chinese and Tamil on every placenames in Penang even though those towns have Malay names. 180.75.238.55 ( talk) 13:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's not a racist statement - don't falsely accuse other contributors.
Deb (
talk) 13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Deb for your intervention. I had always believed that WP should be collaborative & tried to raise that issue accordingly with said address. Just unfortunate that they didn't see it that way. I will keep you posted. hundenvonPG ( talk) 13:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- He is making racist statement by calling Jawi "unexplained arabic-like scripts" while he knows as a Malaysian that the script is a Jawi script and is used to write the Malay language alongside Latin.
180.75.238.55 (
talk) 13:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll check back later.
Deb (
talk) 13:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
The only way that WP:G14 could apply to that page is if it disambiguated zero extant Wikipedia pages, however as it began as a redirect to Nibble, and as a plausible Template:R from unnecessary disambiguation, that is clearly not the case. As such please undelete the page, thank you. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F ( talk) 20:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, who are you and why are you asking questions about a page you have had nothing to do with? If you are a contributor who has access to deleted versions, please remember to sign in. Also, try and sort out your grammar.
Deb (
talk) 09:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It should have been obvious to anyone from the log that it was not WP:G14 eligible, no revisions needed. If I had needed to review revisions, I could have used a Wikipedia mirror or contacted an admin through e-mail or IRC. With quick informal messages the important part is that meaning is conveyed, but if poor grammar troubles you I can attempt to exercise more care in the future.
- Finally, as
Template:R from unnecessary disambiguations are sometimes retained at
WP:RFD, the page is not eligible for
WP:R3. Therefore please undelete the page again, thank you.
2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC (
talk) 17:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Are you the same person as 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F?
Deb (
talk) 18:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I'm on a dynamic IP range. Usually when I comment in a discussion that has not been a problem even when it came to altering my comments on RFD. When we previously discussed pages, for example
Okoo, this has not been a problem either. I suppose there are other people on this range, but the odds of overlap in topical interest are small enough that I don't see it as a barrier to discussion.
2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC (
talk) 18:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's always a problem when people conceal their identity and spend all their time on the kind of hit-and-run edits that you seem to specialize in. I'm unimpressed.
Deb (
talk) 18:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- My identity is less-concealed then yours is, and I reject the assertion that I am a WP:HITANDRUN editor. Further it is not my job to impress you or anyone else, I don't care if I do, I only seek to follow policy. At the moment I am asking you to follow policy and undelete the page. Everything else is off-topic. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC ( talk) 18:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's always a problem when people conceal their identity and spend all their time on the kind of hit-and-run edits that you seem to specialize in. I'm unimpressed.
Deb (
talk) 18:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I'm on a dynamic IP range. Usually when I comment in a discussion that has not been a problem even when it came to altering my comments on RFD. When we previously discussed pages, for example
Okoo, this has not been a problem either. I suppose there are other people on this range, but the odds of overlap in topical interest are small enough that I don't see it as a barrier to discussion.
2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC (
talk) 18:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Are you the same person as 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F?
Deb (
talk) 18:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Assuming this is some loutsocking - see Special:Diff/1212781741. I've refactored their talk page appropriately, though the IP will probably need some sort of brief block (either for evasion, or for the personal attacks). Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 18:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ Schrödinger's jellyfish Apparently, Deb blocked the IP... indefinitely. I'm confused on why she put indefinitely, because I've never seen an IP be blocked indefinitely. I assume she meant to put something like a couple of weeks or months? Either that, or it was a pretty big mistake. I assume that there might be other people also using the IP, so Deb, if you're reading this, I might recommend changing the duration of the block for the IP. NoobThreePointOh ( talk) 11:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
You may wish to review the AIV board. Cahk ( talk) 10:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
As my previous two drafts have been deleted, can I rewrite them with corrected language that doesn't infringe the COI policy? Or can I write an article about the person's book? Suri.doan ( talk) 11:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
- Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
- Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
- Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
- Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
- Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
- Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
- Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
- Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
- Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
- Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
- Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
- Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
- Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
- Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
- Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
- Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
- Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.
To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron ( talk • she/her), via:
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Deletion review for Nibble (unit)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Nibble (unit). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61 ( talk) 00:06, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
can you please revoke my new page reviewer permission? Thanks! zoglophie •talk• 16:39, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- You don't need it revoked - just don't do it. If you ever change your mind, you'll be able to start again. Is there some other reason? Deb ( talk) 17:13, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ Deb, Why you delete my latest article? IvyWanderer ( talk) 12:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- I explained this on your Talk page. It's not your "latest" article, it's your only article, and it's obvious that you have a conflict of interest. Please don't attempt to create it again. Deb ( talk) 12:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Deb, hope you are doing well!
i saw you you have removed all the content from my personal user page which showed the oppression of Muslim community, Christian community and Indian women in India. May I know the reason? Best! Youknowwhoistheman ( talk) 10:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- The reason is that it conflicts with our
neutral point of view policy. You are simply not allowed to express strong political opinions on your page, regardless of whether I agree with them or not.
Deb (
talk) 11:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Okay Thank you. Youknowwhoistheman ( talk) 12:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 | Happy First Edit Day! Hi Deb! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 03:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC) |
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- Congratulations, Deb! Something to be celebrated! Liz Read! Talk! 03:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hey! I remember you! I forget why... but I remember you! Happy First Edit Day. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 04:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Deb,
Thanks for your words to this editor. I have filed an SPI case naming Knowlagepanel as a possible sockpuppet as the previous socks had created these same articles and drafts on these two people who share a last name. They seem determined to get articles about themselves in main space. Liz Read! Talk! 03:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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You seem to be repeatedly deleting things as G6 that clearly don't qualify:
- Samdish Bhatia - deleting years of article history is never uncontroversial enough for G6, should have gone to RfD or AfD
- April 4, 1968 - this was kept at RfD. A lone admin speedying something that survived a deletion discussion is egregiously out of process.
- September 26, 1963 - ditto.
- June 7, 2000 - given the two redirects above that survived RfD deleting this third one was clearly not uncontroversial
You've had numerous recent deletions overturned at deletion review. You really need to do better. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Luckily, I don't value your opinion.
Deb (
talk) 09:01, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- So be it. Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 March 31#Various dates * Pppery * it has begun... 15:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- That response falls well short of
WP:ADMINACCT. Own your mistakes and stop misusing the bit, or you may find yourself without it.
Stifle (
talk) 07:41, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is that meant to be a threat? If not, I recommend you delete it before you find yourself at ANI.
Deb (
talk) 07:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- What I have written, I have written. If you wish to refer the matter to ANI, please go ahead.
Stifle (
talk) 07:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Just check out the interactions on my Talk page, and you'll see that I always respond politely to people who are polite to me. When people come here to threaten, demand and harangue, the best way for me to stay sane is to ignore them. If you decide to stay here in spite of your alleged distaste for drama, you might try doing as you would be done by. Deb ( talk) 08:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- What I have written, I have written. If you wish to refer the matter to ANI, please go ahead.
Stifle (
talk) 07:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is that meant to be a threat? If not, I recommend you delete it before you find yourself at ANI.
Deb (
talk) 07:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey. Approval of the draft can happen only with the move to articlespace, for.which the redirect has to be deleted. Hence, it was tagged with G6-AfC CSD. I cannot accept the article till the redirect is deleted. Thanks.
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The Herald (Benison) (
talk) 10:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand, I just did one of those. There's something odd about
the redirect that is preventing acceptance in the normal way. Can you nominate it again and I'll see what I can do.
Deb (
talk) 10:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 11:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello,
Please I'd like to know the specific words or phrases i used that made it seem like an advertisement.
Thank you.
Helenaria (
talk) 15:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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Dogfiter13 (
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- Mmm, my favourite!
Deb (
talk) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I hope that succulent feast was brought to you by Dogfiter13 in recognition of your work *checks notes* looking through random drafts and deleting complete cruft ;) ——Serial Number 54129 13:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I saw your note to User:Benmite after I noticed that another editor had tagged some of those collection of links for speedy deletion. I don't think they are intended as advertising. They seem to be intended either as a starting point for a userspace draft article or as potential additions to an existing mainspace article. Overall, the topics of the collections seem to be notable. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sure you're right, but as they stand they could be construed as advertising. You'll have noticed that I left a note to that effect on the user's Talk page Deb ( talk) 17:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Dear Deb, Hello, can you delete
Hamza Shaikh page then after I'll able to accepted
Draft:Hamza Shaikh from
WP:AFC process. 
Thanks ~~
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(tαlk) 13:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
OK to restore the deleted revisions? -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 16:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, why?
Deb (
talk) 16:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- content -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 16:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
IMHO, redirect "Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company" should not have been speedy deleted, as it is a plausible typo. The "R" and the "T" keys are next to one another on the keyboard. Can you please enlighten me? -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 00:35, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's not any more plausible than "Mototrcycle" or "Motrotrcycle" or "Mortorcycle" or any other typo. Would you like to add all those as well? Deb ( talk) 07:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Can you Please help me to Regain this Akshaya Alshi Page, once the page is live, can add more info about Akshay Alshi, Please help to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, Thank you MK908 ( talk) 18:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. See the advice on your Talk page.
Deb (
talk) 19:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- What are the steps which I need to follow to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, I still dint understand why this page was deleted Please explain, Thank you
MK908 (
talk) 19:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please follow the advice given to you by User:Ponyo. I have nothing to add to that. Deb ( talk) 19:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- What are the steps which I need to follow to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, I still dint understand why this page was deleted Please explain, Thank you
MK908 (
talk) 19:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
It did not seem to submit when I selected the button. Is it procedure to always submit an article for review, or only when you are first starting? If the former, why is it an option to publish immediately? I will try to use the "Article Wizard" program next time, but I don't really have another article in mind at the moment.Could you explain how I am not formatting references properly? I know you can include the lines from the source you are utilizing, but I don't normally see that in other articles. Or is it more technical? I believe a few citations I have made included extra spaces. I will try to correct that. I hope you found the article interesting and valuable. I have been making slight adjustments or corrections to other rabbit breed pages, but I haven't created any others. Most important and notable breeds are already featured and Blue Imperials were a conspicuously absent exception. Thank you, TanRabbitry
Post Script (I copied this from the other page in case you didn't see it. If you have just been too busy, I understand,
TanRabbitry ( talk) 09:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC))
- No, but it is the procedure for newish users not to create articles in mainspace. When it was in draft, you could have submitted it for review, which would have helped you get constructive comments from other contributors. It should have had the draft template at the top, which would have helped you see how to submit it. For reference formatting, see
Wikipedia:Citing sources.
Deb (
talk) 09:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. TanRabbitry ( talk) 18:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Additionally, how many citations does the Blue Imperial page need added? Thank you,
TanRabbitry ( talk) 09:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- There is no precise answer to that. I would suggest reading the relevant section of
Wikipedia:Notability.
Deb (
talk) 18:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I believe under those criteria, the article fulfills its telos. It is only a short summary of the breeds history. I have only access to a finite number of books and sadly little (in proportion to its scope) of rabbit history is recorded "online." There are doubtless many, many books mentioning the Blue Imperial in its native country. I will try to add more references whenever I come across them in relevant books and/or articles. Thank you for your help,
- TanRabbitry ( talk) 23:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello,
- I'm not sure if there is a place to report this and I don't know if this is only affecting me for some reason, but there seems to be an issue with the search engine on Wikipedia. When I type in a article title, it says there isn't an article named that, but when I press the "enter" button, it goes straight to that page. I tried this for several page names. Where can I report this/find out if this is somehow only a problem with my device? Thank you,
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TanRabbitry (
talk) 04:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- O.K., now it appears to be showing the article on the search engine, but only if I type in the full title. For example, I typed in "Kate Smit-" (the American singer Kate Smith) and it appeared only when the last letter was typed in. Any other time it shows article titles a few letters before the end. TanRabbitry ( talk) 04:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, I had that problem yesterday. If it's still happening, try the
Wikipedia:Village pump.
Deb (
talk) 07:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I looked there and it appears to have affected several people, but has now been fixed. It is working for me again. Thank you,
- TanRabbitry ( talk) 19:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Deletion review for Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jax 0677 ( talk) 21:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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If that doesn't help, read these FAQs.
1. Why did you delete my page when I hadn't finished writing it?
- Answer: Don't create new articles unless you are sure they meet wikipedia's criteria, particularly notability and verifiability. If you want to practice, there is the sandbox facility and Wikipedia:Articles for creation where you can get a second opinion from a more experienced contributor. And if you really can't help yourself, use {{underconstruction}} so other people will know you are still working on it.
2. Why did you delete my page for advertising? I wasn't trying to advertise!
- Answer: Read Wikipedia:NPOV for guidance on how to word an article so that it doesn't sound like an advertisement.
3. Why did you delete my page for advertising? It was about a non-profit organisation!
- Answer: Non-profit organisations advertise all the time - it's still promotion and the rule applies to them just as it does to commercial bodies. See no 2 above.
4. Why did you delete my article without warning?
- Answer: Because you are not entitled to a warning if you don't follow the guidelines. See no 1 above.
5. Why didn't you do a google search and find references for my article and put them in for me instead of just deleting it?
- Answer: Because I don't have time to do the boring bits for you. I have enough boring bits of my own to work on, thank you.
6. You have a very interesting view of neutrality. The authors you give credence to have a definite point of view and you discount those that disagree.
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- @ Debyou'll have to excuse my amature attempt at creating a legit wiki page, I am not trying hide anything, it is not easy creating a page here on Wikipedia.
- I also didnt relaise I can add 'under construction' so people do not constantly delete my work.
- Ill try again, for the 3rd time, to create a legit page about a real martial artist, following Wikipedia's many rules.
- Greg Gjwillis ( talk) 15:49, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Deletion review for Elizabeth Shown Mills
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Elizabeth Shown Mills. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 17:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I am here because you deleted the article, but not to disagree with your deletion. I can see that reasonable editors can disagree as to the interpretation of G11. I think that if more than half of the article needs to be deleted as promotional filler, it is exclusively promotional. I see that other editors disagree. Robert McClenon ( talk) 01:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm not too bothered either way. I go by the maxim that, if you do a lot of work, you make mistakes. Only if you do nothing constructive can you be perfect at what you do.
Deb (
talk) 08:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that you made a mistake anyway. You were in a minority. There were at least three editors who thought it was G11, the nominator, you, and me. Being in a minority does not mean being wrong, and it does not mean that the majority was wrong. It just means that there two opinions, and one of them was in the majority. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi,
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it is based on articles for similar academics. The information listed is all about their professional activities, showing in particular that they have had substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity. They are also the lead editor of an influential encyclopedia in their field.
I am an academic in a related field, but not close to the subject, I was advising my colleague Dr Sio on how to create the page.
Please restore it. Francis Bond ( talk) 15:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Now that you have outed the author of the article, you've also confirmed that she has a personal connection with the subject. You should have informed her that she must declare a
conflict of interest. If a decision is made to restore the article, it will be tagged as a COI.
Deb (
talk) 15:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I am sorry it is my first wikipedia article, I was not aware of the COI, which I would gladly declare. The last time I collaborated academically with the subject was 2008. We are not in the same university. I wanted to add a page for him because I noticed that he didn't have a page, and I think he is well-respected in the field. Where should I declare my COI?
Olomoonlady (
talk) 16:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- You can do this on your user page and also in the Talk page for the article. It is highly advisable for new contributors to create articles in draft space and submit them for review before attempting to put them into main space. I will remove some of the promotional content from your article and put it into draft, but you will need to submit for review so that you can get feedback from other users. Deb ( talk) 16:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Further guidance is available at Help:Your first article. Deb ( talk) 16:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I am sorry it is my first wikipedia article, I was not aware of the COI, which I would gladly declare. The last time I collaborated academically with the subject was 2008. We are not in the same university. I wanted to add a page for him because I noticed that he didn't have a page, and I think he is well-respected in the field. Where should I declare my COI?
Olomoonlady (
talk) 16:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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Is it possible that's the patent nonsense LTA? I'm hesitant to open an SPI given that the title is in French rather than English. Phönedinger's jellyfish II ( talk) 19:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't familiar with that user but it does sound as though it could be. Do you feel I should block that user?
Deb (
talk) 07:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure. The draft text just seemed to be a poop joke, albeit a nonsensical one, and most of their enwiki nonsense has been in English and not are French. The account (I haven't checked since the draft got deleted) does match up with the username trends and behavior (create draft then vanish). I'll probably just file an SPI since it's a strong "maybe" at best. Phönedinger's jellyfish II ( talk) 16:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
The article I had written was not promotional and only included topics such as History, Field of work and Professional Bodies for Social Workers in India. I had even submitted appropriate links and sources.
Reactivate the page or I will be forced to appeal it. NoworNever007 ( talk) 17:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
About Draft:Adidas Top Ten - thank you for thanking me, but I do note this muddle-headed wombat may possibly have gotten things wrong here
@ DrowssapSMM, Voorts, LeDroider, Bruxton, and Deb: I declined the WP:G6 speedy deletion of that draft, and somehow Adidas Top Ten still redirects to Adidas. I *think* I was right to decline the speedy as the draft had not been assessed by an AFC reviewer as ready for articlespace, but as something of a muddle-headed wombat when it comes to these technical sort of things, there is a good chance I got it wrong. Your thoughts about this? Shirt58 ( talk) 🦘 09:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with what you did. There seems to be a lot of this stuff going on at the moment - people nominating unreviewed drafts for speedy deletion in the hope that we won't notice. However, the risk with a redirect is that they will simply add their text into the redirect and no one will notice. So I think I would have protected the page if there is any reason to suppose this might happen.
Deb (
talk) 11:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a risk in this case. It's been almost two months since I draftified and nothing has happened. Perhaps Drowssap forgot to put the article under review before requesting G6. In any event, I don't think the draft is ready for mainspace. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 14:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- @ Shirt58 I think declining the G6 is correct. Adidas Top Ten redirects to Adidas because I draftified that article and then removed the R2 tag and redirected to Adidas instead. voorts ( talk/ contributions) 14:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Shirt58, DrowssapSMM, Voorts, LeDroider, Bruxton, and Deb: Does this mean the page is good to revert back to the original? Can I create the page then for Adidas Top Ten? LeDroider ( talk) 03:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- If you feel you must do so, create the page in draft, not in mainspace, and submit for review. Deb ( talk) 10:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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That article wasn't meant to look like an advertisement in any manner. I don't know why you called it such. Now how do I get it restored to further improve? An undeletion request failed. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:24, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Why did you move it from draft - twice - without waiting for it to pass review?
Deb (
talk) 08:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have an agreement? We can restore this as a draft and then wait for it to pass? I just wish you had prodded it instead of unilaterally deleting it. That way I could have at least been notified and started improving the article to remove "mistakes". Kailash29792 (talk) 08:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Deb, when in doubt, you may tag it for CSD and let another admin take a call. And it's a good practice to do so even when not in doubt, unless it is a most obvious case. That way we have at least 2 editors having had a look at the page before deletion. I see we
discussed about it before, and I did let it go at the time as I didn't argue as to why it was not a "most obvious case". I would see the current Senbaga Thottam deletion as a poor unilateral delete.
WP:DRAFTOBJECT is allowed, and if you have a concern as an editor, you could AfD the article. If you find valid reasons for speedy, tag it. If you find concerns as an admin, and no one has tagged a page for speedy, you will have to have good reasons to justify a unilateral delete.
Jay
💬 09:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Jay. And I find Deb's arguments - that the article looked like an "advertisement" - unconvincing. Either way I have submitted it for AfC again and hope it gets accepted. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's kind of you, but no two cases are alike, as those administrators who try to keep spam under control will be aware. I am pretty confused as to why the creator kept moving this article around, into and out of draft, under different names. It achieves nothing to argue the toss after an amicable compromise has been reached.
Deb (
talk) 14:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- I hope this comes to an amicable conclusion after I share the complete fact: I started the article under the title Shenbaga, but moved it to draft as it was still sketchy. After completing work, I moved it back to the mainspace with the spelling Senbaga as it is correct. That's where I guess things fell apart, and Deb, I apologise for my indecision. I hope we can see the article back in the mainspace as I've done my best to make it look non-promotional. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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Requesting urgent assist in WP:ANI
Hey there Deb. Could you help take a look on this issue? Said IP address is acting in bad faith, refusing to cooperate or engage in discussions in their talk page, and even being aggresive and accused me of being a "racist" in bad faith on ANI. This is very unbecoming of a responsible editor. Appreciate your help on this. Thanks. hundenvonPG ( talk) 12:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Deb, I saw your warning, but that IP address is persisting with their behaviour (adding scripts wholesale). I think action has to be taken.
hundenvonPG (
talk) 13:06, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll check back later.
Deb (
talk) 13:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- He is making racist statement by calling Jawi "unexplained arabic-like scripts" while he knows as a Malaysian that the script is a Jawi script and is used to write the Malay language alongside Latin.
180.75.238.55 (
talk) 13:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's not a racist statement - don't falsely accuse other contributors.
Deb (
talk) 13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That is a Racist statement, he continuously make complains against the Jawi script. That is a racism because he knows Jawi is the traditional script of Malay language. 180.75.238.55 ( talk) 13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I challenge him to give me proof that Chinese and Tamil are official languages of Malaysia because he puts Chinese and Tamil on every placenames in Penang even though those towns have Malay names. 180.75.238.55 ( talk) 13:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's not a racist statement - don't falsely accuse other contributors.
Deb (
talk) 13:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Deb for your intervention. I had always believed that WP should be collaborative & tried to raise that issue accordingly with said address. Just unfortunate that they didn't see it that way. I will keep you posted. hundenvonPG ( talk) 13:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- He is making racist statement by calling Jawi "unexplained arabic-like scripts" while he knows as a Malaysian that the script is a Jawi script and is used to write the Malay language alongside Latin.
180.75.238.55 (
talk) 13:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll check back later.
Deb (
talk) 13:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
The only way that WP:G14 could apply to that page is if it disambiguated zero extant Wikipedia pages, however as it began as a redirect to Nibble, and as a plausible Template:R from unnecessary disambiguation, that is clearly not the case. As such please undelete the page, thank you. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F ( talk) 20:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, who are you and why are you asking questions about a page you have had nothing to do with? If you are a contributor who has access to deleted versions, please remember to sign in. Also, try and sort out your grammar.
Deb (
talk) 09:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It should have been obvious to anyone from the log that it was not WP:G14 eligible, no revisions needed. If I had needed to review revisions, I could have used a Wikipedia mirror or contacted an admin through e-mail or IRC. With quick informal messages the important part is that meaning is conveyed, but if poor grammar troubles you I can attempt to exercise more care in the future.
- Finally, as
Template:R from unnecessary disambiguations are sometimes retained at
WP:RFD, the page is not eligible for
WP:R3. Therefore please undelete the page again, thank you.
2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC (
talk) 17:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Are you the same person as 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F?
Deb (
talk) 18:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I'm on a dynamic IP range. Usually when I comment in a discussion that has not been a problem even when it came to altering my comments on RFD. When we previously discussed pages, for example
Okoo, this has not been a problem either. I suppose there are other people on this range, but the odds of overlap in topical interest are small enough that I don't see it as a barrier to discussion.
2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC (
talk) 18:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's always a problem when people conceal their identity and spend all their time on the kind of hit-and-run edits that you seem to specialize in. I'm unimpressed.
Deb (
talk) 18:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- My identity is less-concealed then yours is, and I reject the assertion that I am a WP:HITANDRUN editor. Further it is not my job to impress you or anyone else, I don't care if I do, I only seek to follow policy. At the moment I am asking you to follow policy and undelete the page. Everything else is off-topic. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC ( talk) 18:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's always a problem when people conceal their identity and spend all their time on the kind of hit-and-run edits that you seem to specialize in. I'm unimpressed.
Deb (
talk) 18:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I'm on a dynamic IP range. Usually when I comment in a discussion that has not been a problem even when it came to altering my comments on RFD. When we previously discussed pages, for example
Okoo, this has not been a problem either. I suppose there are other people on this range, but the odds of overlap in topical interest are small enough that I don't see it as a barrier to discussion.
2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:154D:8DE5:E43F:9FAC (
talk) 18:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Are you the same person as 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1DA2:B9FB:6228:587F?
Deb (
talk) 18:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Assuming this is some loutsocking - see Special:Diff/1212781741. I've refactored their talk page appropriately, though the IP will probably need some sort of brief block (either for evasion, or for the personal attacks). Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 18:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ Schrödinger's jellyfish Apparently, Deb blocked the IP... indefinitely. I'm confused on why she put indefinitely, because I've never seen an IP be blocked indefinitely. I assume she meant to put something like a couple of weeks or months? Either that, or it was a pretty big mistake. I assume that there might be other people also using the IP, so Deb, if you're reading this, I might recommend changing the duration of the block for the IP. NoobThreePointOh ( talk) 11:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
You may wish to review the AIV board. Cahk ( talk) 10:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
As my previous two drafts have been deleted, can I rewrite them with corrected language that doesn't infringe the COI policy? Or can I write an article about the person's book? Suri.doan ( talk) 11:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
- Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
- Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
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Deletion review for Nibble (unit)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Nibble (unit). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5E4:48BE:836F:9F61 ( talk) 00:06, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
can you please revoke my new page reviewer permission? Thanks! zoglophie •talk• 16:39, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- You don't need it revoked - just don't do it. If you ever change your mind, you'll be able to start again. Is there some other reason? Deb ( talk) 17:13, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ Deb, Why you delete my latest article? IvyWanderer ( talk) 12:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- I explained this on your Talk page. It's not your "latest" article, it's your only article, and it's obvious that you have a conflict of interest. Please don't attempt to create it again. Deb ( talk) 12:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Deb, hope you are doing well!
i saw you you have removed all the content from my personal user page which showed the oppression of Muslim community, Christian community and Indian women in India. May I know the reason? Best! Youknowwhoistheman ( talk) 10:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- The reason is that it conflicts with our
neutral point of view policy. You are simply not allowed to express strong political opinions on your page, regardless of whether I agree with them or not.
Deb (
talk) 11:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Okay Thank you. Youknowwhoistheman ( talk) 12:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, Deb,
Thanks for your words to this editor. I have filed an SPI case naming Knowlagepanel as a possible sockpuppet as the previous socks had created these same articles and drafts on these two people who share a last name. They seem determined to get articles about themselves in main space. Liz Read! Talk! 03:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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You seem to be repeatedly deleting things as G6 that clearly don't qualify:
- Samdish Bhatia - deleting years of article history is never uncontroversial enough for G6, should have gone to RfD or AfD
- April 4, 1968 - this was kept at RfD. A lone admin speedying something that survived a deletion discussion is egregiously out of process.
- September 26, 1963 - ditto.
- June 7, 2000 - given the two redirects above that survived RfD deleting this third one was clearly not uncontroversial
You've had numerous recent deletions overturned at deletion review. You really need to do better. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Luckily, I don't value your opinion.
Deb (
talk) 09:01, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- So be it. Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 March 31#Various dates * Pppery * it has begun... 15:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- That response falls well short of
WP:ADMINACCT. Own your mistakes and stop misusing the bit, or you may find yourself without it.
Stifle (
talk) 07:41, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is that meant to be a threat? If not, I recommend you delete it before you find yourself at ANI.
Deb (
talk) 07:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- What I have written, I have written. If you wish to refer the matter to ANI, please go ahead.
Stifle (
talk) 07:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Just check out the interactions on my Talk page, and you'll see that I always respond politely to people who are polite to me. When people come here to threaten, demand and harangue, the best way for me to stay sane is to ignore them. If you decide to stay here in spite of your alleged distaste for drama, you might try doing as you would be done by. Deb ( talk) 08:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- What I have written, I have written. If you wish to refer the matter to ANI, please go ahead.
Stifle (
talk) 07:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is that meant to be a threat? If not, I recommend you delete it before you find yourself at ANI.
Deb (
talk) 07:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey. Approval of the draft can happen only with the move to articlespace, for.which the redirect has to be deleted. Hence, it was tagged with G6-AfC CSD. I cannot accept the article till the redirect is deleted. Thanks.
. —
The Herald (Benison) (
talk) 10:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand, I just did one of those. There's something odd about
the redirect that is preventing acceptance in the normal way. Can you nominate it again and I'll see what I can do.
Deb (
talk) 10:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 11:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello,
Please I'd like to know the specific words or phrases i used that made it seem like an advertisement.
Thank you.
Helenaria (
talk) 15:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
{{
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Dogfiter13 (
talk) 13:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Mmm, my favourite!
Deb (
talk) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I hope that succulent feast was brought to you by Dogfiter13 in recognition of your work *checks notes* looking through random drafts and deleting complete cruft ;) ——Serial Number 54129 13:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I saw your note to User:Benmite after I noticed that another editor had tagged some of those collection of links for speedy deletion. I don't think they are intended as advertising. They seem to be intended either as a starting point for a userspace draft article or as potential additions to an existing mainspace article. Overall, the topics of the collections seem to be notable. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sure you're right, but as they stand they could be construed as advertising. You'll have noticed that I left a note to that effect on the user's Talk page Deb ( talk) 17:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Dear Deb, Hello, can you delete
Hamza Shaikh page then after I'll able to accepted
Draft:Hamza Shaikh from
WP:AFC process. Thanks ~~
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(tαlk) 13:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
OK to restore the deleted revisions? -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 16:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, why?
Deb (
talk) 16:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- content -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 16:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
IMHO, redirect "Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company" should not have been speedy deleted, as it is a plausible typo. The "R" and the "T" keys are next to one another on the keyboard. Can you please enlighten me? -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 00:35, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's not any more plausible than "Mototrcycle" or "Motrotrcycle" or "Mortorcycle" or any other typo. Would you like to add all those as well? Deb ( talk) 07:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Can you Please help me to Regain this Akshaya Alshi Page, once the page is live, can add more info about Akshay Alshi, Please help to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, Thank you MK908 ( talk) 18:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. See the advice on your Talk page.
Deb (
talk) 19:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- What are the steps which I need to follow to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, I still dint understand why this page was deleted Please explain, Thank you
MK908 (
talk) 19:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please follow the advice given to you by User:Ponyo. I have nothing to add to that. Deb ( talk) 19:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- What are the steps which I need to follow to retrieve the Page Akshaya Alshi, I still dint understand why this page was deleted Please explain, Thank you
MK908 (
talk) 19:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
It did not seem to submit when I selected the button. Is it procedure to always submit an article for review, or only when you are first starting? If the former, why is it an option to publish immediately? I will try to use the "Article Wizard" program next time, but I don't really have another article in mind at the moment.Could you explain how I am not formatting references properly? I know you can include the lines from the source you are utilizing, but I don't normally see that in other articles. Or is it more technical? I believe a few citations I have made included extra spaces. I will try to correct that. I hope you found the article interesting and valuable. I have been making slight adjustments or corrections to other rabbit breed pages, but I haven't created any others. Most important and notable breeds are already featured and Blue Imperials were a conspicuously absent exception. Thank you, TanRabbitry
Post Script (I copied this from the other page in case you didn't see it. If you have just been too busy, I understand,
TanRabbitry ( talk) 09:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC))
- No, but it is the procedure for newish users not to create articles in mainspace. When it was in draft, you could have submitted it for review, which would have helped you get constructive comments from other contributors. It should have had the draft template at the top, which would have helped you see how to submit it. For reference formatting, see
Wikipedia:Citing sources.
Deb (
talk) 09:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. TanRabbitry ( talk) 18:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Additionally, how many citations does the Blue Imperial page need added? Thank you,
TanRabbitry ( talk) 09:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- There is no precise answer to that. I would suggest reading the relevant section of
Wikipedia:Notability.
Deb (
talk) 18:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I believe under those criteria, the article fulfills its telos. It is only a short summary of the breeds history. I have only access to a finite number of books and sadly little (in proportion to its scope) of rabbit history is recorded "online." There are doubtless many, many books mentioning the Blue Imperial in its native country. I will try to add more references whenever I come across them in relevant books and/or articles. Thank you for your help,
- TanRabbitry ( talk) 23:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello,
- I'm not sure if there is a place to report this and I don't know if this is only affecting me for some reason, but there seems to be an issue with the search engine on Wikipedia. When I type in a article title, it says there isn't an article named that, but when I press the "enter" button, it goes straight to that page. I tried this for several page names. Where can I report this/find out if this is somehow only a problem with my device? Thank you,
-
TanRabbitry (
talk) 04:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- O.K., now it appears to be showing the article on the search engine, but only if I type in the full title. For example, I typed in "Kate Smit-" (the American singer Kate Smith) and it appeared only when the last letter was typed in. Any other time it shows article titles a few letters before the end. TanRabbitry ( talk) 04:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, I had that problem yesterday. If it's still happening, try the
Wikipedia:Village pump.
Deb (
talk) 07:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I looked there and it appears to have affected several people, but has now been fixed. It is working for me again. Thank you,
- TanRabbitry ( talk) 19:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Deletion review for Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Indian Motortcycle Manufacturing Company. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jax 0677 ( talk) 21:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)