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Doust (film)

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I cannot find any mention about this film, not even in the references in the article. I suspect it may be a spelling mistake and in that case a redirect to Dost (1944 film) would be called for. But that is my speculation. As it stands, without any real references, the topic fails WP:GNG Ruud Buitelaar ( talk) 02:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hiten Dharpure

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Dharpure has achieved a couple of obscure records recognized by the "India Book of Records" and the "Worldwide Book of Records", neither publication notable enough to have their own Wikipedia articles. Given the number of newspaper clippings posted by the article's author at Commons (now mostly nominated for deletion as copyright violations), it is likely that this is an autobiography. WikiDan61 ^ChatMe! _ReadMe!! 11:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete This is exactly the sort of non-notable nonsense that should be removed. Clearly written by the subject themselves or on their behalf. Shrug02 ( talk) 18:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Vanity spam, creating dancing robots is not notable here. Sources about various records that are not notable. Oaktree b ( talk) 16:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment: And the image is tagged as a copyvio, further red flags. Oaktree b ( talk) 16:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete. No notability and blatantly COI. Procyon117 ( talk) 17:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Fails notability. RangersRus ( talk) 22:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

TV9 Kannada

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Unsourced article. Literary found nothing that can help to support WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 ( talk) 07:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. No reliable sources on the page to establish significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus ( talk) 22:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

TV9 Bangla

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Only press releases. Literary found nothing that can help to support WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 ( talk) 07:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Poor sources with no significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus ( talk) 22:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

TV9 Gujarati

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Unsourced article. Literary found nothing that can help to support WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 ( talk) 07:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Unsourced to establish any significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus ( talk) 22:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Kulwant Singh Rauke

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Disputed PROD. My rationale still stand, the subject fails WP:NPOL and there's no evidence that there's a passing of the criteria that constitutes WP:GNG either. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: The creator has made multiple similar articles which fail WP:NPOL, this should be deleted as well. Xoocit ( talk) 09:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:NPOL. The degree of significance of the subject and of role as politician and activist is not enough to warrant a page on the subject. RangersRus ( talk) 22:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ditty (musician)

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"WP:N" Bulklana ( talk) 19:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  Keep: As is evidenced on the current article, Ditty has been the subject of "multiple, non-trivial, published works", meeting the first criteria in WP:NMUSIC. Significa liberdade (she/her) ( talk) 02:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Girish Tanti

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WP:NOTRESUME. Fails WP:GNG WP:BASIC. Initially, I tried to draftify the page, but there is already a rejected draft in existence. Charlie ( talk) 15:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Poor sources. The businessman's work has not been significant and unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded. Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO RangersRus ( talk) 22:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Khais Millen

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Immediately refunded after soft deletion in 2023 but no change to address concerns in first AfD. Film writer/director who does not pass WP:GNG, WP:NCREATIVE, WP:NBIO. Most sources are [WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS]] if they mention him at all; there's an interview that's a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE and a single example of WP:SIGCOV that exhibits all the hallmarks of unreliable content of WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Not enough to pass. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 15:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep: fairly meets WP:DIRECTOR AND WP:CREATIVE with at least 3 2 notable films directed and 3 2 written (not mentioning the fact he produced. 2); the said films are notable creations that received independent and in-depth coverage mentioning him. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  What part of WP:DIRECTOR are you referring to with "three notable films"? (Only two films he has been involved in even have en-wiki pages and only one of those he directed.) The only criterion I could plausibly see cited is "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work," but there's no evidence that any of his works are "significant or well-known." Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I consider his debut film as director notable enough. See coverage about it online. It has no page yet on WP, true. Added 2 links to the article. Writer: my bad, I had counted Lipstick, which is a short. Even if it's only two or even if it it was only one, he would pass both SNGs because these works can be considered significant, as coverage shows. I'll leave it at that as he is a really clear pass imv.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) (number of significant films; clarification: 3 or 4 films including 2 directed (Thala; and I count Aakashvani), 2 written (Adithattu and Thala, to which one can add again Aakashvani)); the 1st has received a significant award and is clearly significant imv).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment on the opening assertion in the nomination: sorry but no change to address concerns in first AfD is an inaccurate statement.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Fine, no substantive change. The addition of WP:TRIVIALMENTION citations does not address the concerns in the AfD. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I beg to differ. If those mentions (trivial or not) allow to verify he had an essential role in notable productions they do address the concerns, especially as one mentioned the award for Best Second film that was not mentioned before, unless I am mistaken. I remember checking them (or even adding some) myself back then. I should leave it at that that, as I had said, sorry. Thanks, anyway. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

News9 Plus

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AfDed per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/News9Live Twinkle1990 ( talk) 15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete and salt This current version is blatantly promotional compared to the original version ("News9 Mediaverse umbrella"?!) and N is still not met at all. Nate • ( chatter) 16:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Poor sources with no significant coverage on the organization. Fails WP:NCORP. RangersRus ( talk) 17:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete Sources are comprised of a few questionable websites, some of which are "News9" sites. Not notable. Ternera ( talk) 18:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Speedy delete WP:G4 BrigadierG ( talk) 21:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Indian prime ministerial firsts

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WP:NOTTRIVIA, does not meet WP:LISTN. Along the same lines as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States vice presidential firsts. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 13:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete per lack of capacity for reasonable WP:SELCRIT. On this day, the Indian prime minister became the first in history to eat a donut which contained a jam filling and brown sprinkles before 9am on the 2nd day of february while wearing a yellow turban... BrigadierG ( talk) 21:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Going with your logic shouldn't we just delete List of Mexican presidential firsts, List of Philippine presidential firsts, and List of United States presidential firsts as well? — Hemant Dabral ( 📞 • ✒) 01:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Yes, probably. BrigadierG ( talk) 20:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep, there is a significant coverage about the Indian prime ministerial firsts. — Hemant Dabral ( 📞 • ✒) 01:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Which sources do you have in mind? _signed, Rosguill ^talk 12:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete for WP:NOTTRIVIA. We should also likely delete the other "Presidential Firsts" list articles for rhe same reason. CoconutOctopus talk 06:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep: Purely going by the fact that List of United States presidential firsts exists and the article is on similar lines to that. Xoocit ( talk) 08:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

That article should likely also be deleted, although it is possible that coverage exists to meet WP:LISTN there so it would require patiently working through its mountain of sources first. WP:OSE _signed, Rosguill ^talk 12:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Curbon7 ( talk) 21:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• I'm leaning keep given the fact these exist elsewhere, but I can't quickly find a source which would get this past WP:LISTN (covering several firsts at once as opposed to just being a trivia section). SportingFlyer T· C 10:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete per WP:LISTN. There are practically an infinite number of unnotable firsts. First PM to visit Canada??? What next? First left-handed PM? First to catch a disease in office? First to play a video game? Clarityfiend ( talk) 13:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. The List of Indian prime ministerial firsts fails encyclopedic merit without contextual information. RangersRus ( talk) 22:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

EPACK Prefab

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Promotional company page, fails WP:NCORP. Trivial sources only. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 09:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Per nom. Case of WP:PROMO, Promotion, advertising. Company fails WP:N and WP:NCORP. RangersRus ( talk) 22:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Manorathangal

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References are brief mentions, WP:NEWSORGINDIA, or otherwise unreliable. Draftified previously but disputed as well as notability tag disputed. Would suggest a redirect to ZEE5. CNMall41 ( talk) 19:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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This is a landmark project in Indian cinema. It's bizarre that someone finds it irrelevant. Would you suggest that The Irishman produced by Netflix should simply redirect to Netflix? Filmy World ( talk) 15:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Many reliable citations are added there is no need of deletion of merging Zyzwvw ( talk) 15:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep: bylined articles in Variety, The Hindu and Onmanorama, for example, seem to show this is notable. A redirect is indeed warranted anyway, so very opposed to deletion. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Draftify Put it back to draft and saltify the title, no more moving to-and-forth. Let an administrator review it next time. Gan Favourite ( talk) 06:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Why? If this is notable, why draftify and block creation, on top of that, if we can agree it's notable here? no more moving to-and-forth? I agree: leave it in the Main. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

NIILM School of Business

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Entirely unsourced. Fails WP:V, Fails WP:NORG. Rankings are not notability nor verification. WP:BEFORE finds nothing. WP:ADMASQ. Would have used CSD or PROD except for its age. I believe it deserves a discussion, not summary deletion. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: fails WP:NSCHOOL. Charlie ( talk) 18:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus ( talk) 18:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Nenjathai Killadhe (2014 TV series)

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Fails WP:GNG; sources are limited to tabloid coverage excluded per WP:SBST and WP:USERGENERATED sources. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 14:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect to List of programmes broadcast by Zee Tamil (India): curiously the series was listed there for years ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Zee_Tamil_(India)&oldid=963550928) but has been removed. Will re-add it in and re-create the soap opera section (so that the link I suggest for target is List of programmes broadcast by Zee Tamil (India)#Soap operas. Will add a source ( https://nettv4u.com/about/tamil/tv-serials/nenjathai-killadhe/all-cast-and-crew). The fact that a 2024 series with the same title exists (not to mention the 2 feature films) is, I think, another reason to maintain a redirect (so as to help the reader). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I'm OK with this redirect as nominator. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 17:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Note: Alternative transcriptions: Nenjathai Killathe(y) (or Killadey). The show might also be considered notable for the come back as actorr of SPB Charan, after a 13 year gap. But I understand that this might be considered cherry-picking. (not opposed to keep, though, if other users think this is important enough to be noted).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Redirect to List of programmes broadcast by Zee Tamil (India). Not enough reliable coverage to show notability.
• Redirect to List of programmes broadcast by Zee Tamil (India). RangersRus ( talk) 22:58, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Pukaar – Dil Se Dil Tak

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I am neutral in this filing but feel a consensus is needed here than deleting the page and redirecting, given that this is an ongoing tv show which satisfies WP:TV. Also I don't find any issues with the current sources of this article, only thing is that more WP:RS sources should be added. Editingmylove ( talk) 06:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete - With only 28 edits you may not be familiar with WP:NEWSORGINDIA which is what all of these references fall under. Nothing reliable to show notability. I would also say that a redirect wouldn't be a suitable WP:ATD based on the objection to it. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 07:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Redirect to List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Sony_Entertainment_Television#Current_broadcasts: Not opposed to keep, given existing coverage. A redirect is not only suitable but should always be considered when production, cast and broadcast are verifiable, which the said coverage clearly allows. If someone objected to the redirect, it is most likely because they wished a standalone page, not on principled opposition to keep history and allow further improvement or expansion here or on the target page. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: not enough WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG and does not meet the WP:NFILM criteria. (Also fine with a redirect) — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment: Adding a few references. I don't know if that helps WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovetvshows ( talk • contribs) 11:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment: I was the one that created the plot tab for the show and added stuff to it. I usually just fix the plot or the cast section in TV shows so I am not completely aware of why the deletion might be happening. I would like an explanation and if there is anything I can do to stop the deletion? Whothatwhothatwhothstboi ( talk) 16:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Pinging the relevent people @ CNMall41 @ Mushy Yank @ Alien333 @ Ilovetvshows. I think this conversation should be in the talk page Editingmylove ( talk) 17:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Thanks. @ Whothatwhothatwhothstboi: you may vote if you think the page should be retained (see the template in the corner of the page: how to contribute and deletion process). Ilovetvshows may !vote too. Adding sources certainly can help unless other users consider them not reliable/not independent and maybe someone should explain why most sources have been said to fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA when it does not concern websites or media that are considered generally unreliable (and that are simply not mentioned there), as, not only for newcomers, that might not be completely clear. The quantity of coverage added certainly means something, though. Bylined sources would be better, I guess. Maybe such as https://www.news18.com/entertainment/abhishek-nigam-is-part-of-sayli-salunkhes-pukaar-dil-se-dil-tak-8884431.html, which contains a paragraph that might pass for independent coverage. But I will leave it that as I don't wish to comment any further on the topic and maybe my !vote is clear enough (not opposed to keep- suggesting redirect as a useful compromise, alternative to deletion). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Rewant Ram Danga

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Clearly fails WP:NPOL. He contested the Rajasthan Assembly Elections in the year 2023 from Khinwsar Assembly constituency. In which he was defeated. Youknow? ( talk) 06:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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https://www.livehindustan.com/assembly-elections/rajasthan-elections/constituency/khinwsar-110/

Check this news to verify that he contested the Rajasthan Assembly Elections in the year 2023 for Khinwasar Assembly Constituency. TejalGraphics ( talk) 07:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TejalGraphics The point is that he contested but didn’t win. Politicians aren’t presumptively notable by virtue of their candidacy in an election. They have to, at least, win the notable position they contested for. If they don’t win and they pass the general notability guideline, then that’s a different case. Neither is the case for Danga. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 10:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete: Clearly fails NPOL. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ ^{Let's Talk !} 09:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Fails WP:POL and WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete: Does not meet notability criteria Xoocit ( talk) 08:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

NIILM University

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This fails WP:NORG. A WP:BEFORE revealed no useful potential references. The current references are one of: a) By NIILM, b) Announcements by NIILM, c) listings showing it exists. Private Universities do not get a free ride. WP:GNG failure, and WP:ADMASQ 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment: It may be that the NIILM Education Trust is notable. If so that article needs to be written and NIILM University should then be covered in that article. I doubt that outcome is within the scope of an AfD discussion. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Why raise this tag? Naduz ( talk) 18:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  http://www.surjewala.in/pages/NIILM-University Naduz ( talk) 18:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  There is a lot of reference Naduz ( talk) 18:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  https://www.punjabnewsexpress.com/campus-buzz/news/a-special-seminar-on-legal-literacy-mission-held-at-niilm-university-kaithal-239351 Naduz ( talk) 18:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_institutions_of_higher_education_in_Haryana Naduz ( talk) 19:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ Naduz The three supposed references you have given are as stated in my nomination. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  Haryana State Higher Education Council also referred

  https://hshec.org/welcome/university_details/84 Naduz ( talk) 19:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Im one of the student of this university and since 2011 the university starts Naduz ( talk) 19:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Naduz I hope you enjoy studying there and have a successful future career. The reference you quote is as stated in my nomination. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hello,

So what to do ? Naduz ( talk) 02:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

What more do I have to share? Naduz ( talk) 03:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The sources are reliable? Naduz ( talk) 03:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

It is a university near where I live. Wiki-CBO ( talk) 05:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

It is a private university recognized by the Directorate of Higher Education Haryana Government.

The university is listed on of the Directorate of Education Board, Government of Haryana

https://www.highereduhry.ac.in/forms/WebPages/Universities#Pvt Wiki-CBO ( talk) 05:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Wiki-CBO Please don't just suggest things that fail. The reference you quote is as stated un my nomination. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Can you please tell me what should I share? Wiki-CBO ( talk) 13:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Wiki-CBO Nothing. But you may seek to improve the article. WP:HEY may interest you. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Please suggest me what will i improve the article? Wiki-CBO ( talk) 17:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Wiki-CBO With respect, the nomination is clear. Editing the article to remove those concerns is likely to sway the discussion in its favour. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I removed social media links from article Wiki-CBO ( talk) 18:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I removed all my contribution of the university Wiki-CBO ( talk) 19:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

This is very informative article is there in Kaithal and a large number of alumnus have studied here. 2409:40F3:1D:6253:50D7:89FF:FE71:7BF6 ( talk) 06:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — 2409:40F3:1D:6253:50D7:89FF:FE71:7BF6 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply

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• Delete. Poor and unreliable primary sources from the university website. Page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus ( talk) 18:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Lack inline citations, no WP:RS. But, articles like these can often be improved, and may not need to be deleted if they match up WP:HEY. Charlie ( talk) 18:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete no evidence of notability of any kind, and a search finds nothing better. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 18:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Previous refference

  ^[1] Wikibuddys ( talk) 18:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Someone removes all previously reliable sources Wikibuddys ( talk) 19:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I fail the exam so delete this 2409:40F3:C:C22:584A:99FF:FE1A:D6D9 ( talk) 12:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Fashion of Radhika Merchant

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Wikipedia is not a newspaper. WP:NOTNEWS Youknow? ( talk) 16:28, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Celebrity gossip coverage isn't what we're looking for notability-wise. For this to be kept, you need an extensive amount of sourcing to get it over the hump; this is too brief Oaktree b ( talk) 17:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge to Wedding of Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant. As mostly about the event's clothing. Gotitbro ( talk) 09:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge with Wedding of Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant: Expansion of that can save it from deletion. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge to Wedding of Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant: Per nom. Not enough SIGCOV for standalone article. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 05:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Jayati Devi

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No indication that this person is notable per the current sourcing (which is not significant coverage), nor by her association with her husband, nor as a model/artist/musician. The article is part of a walled garden about the Munshi/Munsi extended family. A BEFORE search revealed nothing about this Jayati Devi (only about others). Fails WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone ( talk) 15:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete Agree with the nominator that this is part of a walled garden, and this family member is not notable on her own. WP:NOTINHERITED. -- WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 01:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sitaare Zameen Par (film)

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Nominated per WP:TOOSOON. Adnan ( ᵀᵃˡᵏ) 14:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment: The AFD request is opened with bad faith intent. You can see this deletion request and ANI discussion. Thanks for your consideration C1K98V ^{( 💬 ✒️ 📂)} 14:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Keep: because filming is wrapped and cast notable; or draftify if coverage regarding production is judged insufficient. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Myanmar Air Force Shaanxi Y-8 crash

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Per WP:NOTNEWS. From what I've been able to find, the majority of sources are primary with a lack of/no reliable secondary sources. The event does not have in-depth nor continued coverage coverage. Aviationwikiflight ( talk) 12:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment. Which of the references is primary? And why would an incident in 2024 already have continued coverage? gidonb ( talk) 23:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Are you talking about the references used in the article or published news articles outside the article?

  Per WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE, "Events that are only covered in sources published during or immediately after an event, without further analysis or discussion, are likely not suitable for an encyclopedia article." I've only been able to find news coverage dating from when the accident happened. Coverage of the accident only lasted 1-3 days. Aviationwikiflight ( talk) 14:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

References are in the articles and sources are out there. My question was for the references. The continued coverage requirement is important, however, it takes time until media get back to an event. This one happened in 2024. gidonb ( talk) 21:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Regarding the accident, pretty much all references are primary without any analysis of the event.

Per WP:NTEMP: "_{While notability itself is not temporary, from time to time a reassessment of the evidence of notability or suitability of existing articles may be requested by any user via a deletion discussion, or new evidence may arise for articles previously deemed unsuitable. Thus, an article may be proposed for deletion months or even years after its creation, or recreated whenever new evidence supports its existence as a standalone article.}" Aviationwikiflight ( talk) 17:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Nearly six months after the event, nobody's much interested, and there's no discernable reason why they should be. Also, military crashes have a higher bar to cross for notability than civilian ones. Clarityfiend ( talk) 00:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom. Rosbif73 ( talk) 09:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

MFK Award for Favourite Male Playback Singer

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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. An award for playback singers issued by a TV channel. North8000 ( talk) 01:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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The Life and Religion of Mohammed

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Fails WP:NOTBOOK. I can find no sources on the book or the author of the book, other than catalogue or sales listings. Article has been tagged for notability since 2012. Johnj1995 ( talk) 04:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. There are 5 articles mentioning the book in ProQuest, but only brief mentions. None feature the book as their primary topic. Astaire ( talk) 21:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sreenidhi Institute of Management and Science

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I cannot find any independent, substantive coverage about this institute. Their FB-page was discontinued in 2014. Fails WP:NORG Ruud Buitelaar ( talk) 03:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Ratra

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Does not meet WP:GNG. There does not appear to be any coverage of this subject outside of unreliable British Raj-era gazetteers. Searching on Google Scholar, Books, and online, I was able to find unrelated references to the name/term "Ratra" ( [1]) but nothing relevant. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 22:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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King (rapper)

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This was here once before and the result was to redirect as the subject was deemed to not be sufficiently notable on their own, but it seems some folks keep trying to turn it into an article, so here we are again. "First Indian pop star to walk the red carpet at Cannes" seems like a desperate attempt to establish notability over a random intersection of events, seeing as Cannes is a film festival, not a music festival. I think this should either be restored to a redirect or preferably, just deleted. If either of those is done it should also be salted until such time as someone is able to produce a draft article that actually has significant coverage from reliable sources. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 20:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete and salt. Nothing notable here. I don't even know if WP:BLP1E would apply here for that last sentence, if it is indeed a desperate attempt at notability. Aside from the sources already in the article and links to his music, I can't find much else. I also get more hits about other people, especially another rapper by the name of Chris King. Procyon117 ( talk) 14:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Gender Park

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Fails WP:ORG, lacks in-depth coverage ( WP:CORPDEPTH) in reliable independent sources. References are routine news reports about individual initiates when it was inaugurated. The organization itself lacks sufficient coverage. Government organization has no inherent notability, WP:ORGSIG. Gan Favourite ( talk) 15:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Kerala Institute of Local Administration

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Fails WP:ORG, lacks in-depth coverage ( WP:CORPDEPTH) in reliable independent sources. WP:PRIMARY references are used for sourcing. The content is mostly copied from the official website. Govt organizations are not automatically notable ( WP:ORGSIG). Gan Favourite ( talk) 15:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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WhatsApp University

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The term is indeed used in India. However, I don't think it has scope beyond a definition. It can be easily integrated in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution ( WP:CFORK). Although start-class, it pretty much looks like a future repository for dumping all fake news spread on WhatsApp. For serious cases, there is already Indian WhatsApp lynchings. Gan Favourite ( talk) 14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect per WP:NEO. The topic is better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, and the term is not separately notable. Many of the sources here just contain uses of the term but actually cover the topic (and not the term). Maybe merge a brief mention of the definition in the NDTV article. hinnk ( talk) 04:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: i added some of WP:RS references. and this phrase clearly passes WP:GNG. Youknow? ( talk) 12:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: Agree with @ Youknowwhoistheman -- BeLucky ( talk) 13:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Redirect I agree with @ hinnk, the topic can be better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, other than the defination, there is not much to inside the scope of this article which cannot be put under the Fake news article. Xoocit ( talk) 08:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Wedding of Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant

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No doubt, this wedding is getting extensive media coverage. However, imv, the wedding does not qualify as a notable event and I see no lasting historical significance here so fails WP:NEVENT. All information can be adequately covered within articles about Anant Ambani. WP is not a newspaper so newsworthy doesn't equal notable. And just for information, both the groom and the bride aren't even notable on their own. — Saqib ( talk I contribs) 20:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge with Anant Ambani: Even with so many keep votes, I'm still not convinced this wedding deserves a standalone article. WP:ATD? I'd prefer merging it into a BLP for Anant Ambani, as he now meets the GNG. — Saqib ( talk I contribs) 07:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Delete: Well, neither person getting married is notable, so I'm not sure why getting married is notable. Could be a one liner in the groom's father's article, that's about all. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  There are plenty of notable events where the individuals involved are not notable outside of their involvement in the specific event. Legoktm ( talk) 00:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep The contradiction in the nomination makes the case clear: this wedding is getting extensive media coverage, which makes it notable. Most weddings do not get massive media coverage, and on top of that even prominent Indian weddings don't get coverage in Western media. But this wedding has coverage in NYT, NBC, AP, USA Today, and plenty more. It's estimated that hundreds of millions of dollars were spent on the wedding ( CNN) - can you think of any other event that costs hundreds of millions of dollars that wouldn't merit an article?

Policy wise, let's run through the list at WP:NEVENT: Lasting effects: skip; Geographical scope: check, affects most of Indian society, which is wide enough; Depth of coverage: check, as demonstrated above and by cursory Google News searches; Duration of coverage: check, this has been discussed since the wedding festivities started last year; Diversity of sources: check, wide variety of international sources.

So, lasting effects. It's of course hard to tell whether an event today will have "enduring historical significance". The NYT describes the wedding as having "introduced the world to the [India]’s Gilded Age." CNN says, "Attendees dressed the part, streaming past photographers in custom sarees, lehengas and kurtas at an event that may set forthcoming trends in Indian wedding fashion." NBC quoted a wedding planner saying: "I don’t think any wedding in the world or anyone has spent this kind of money in terms of expenses, magnitude, events, entertainment, decor or design."

The best analogy is probably courtesy of The Guardian, which calls the Ambanis the "Windsors of India". Unsurprisingly, you'll find Windsor weddings' articles listed at List of royal weddings. Legoktm ( talk) 00:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Here's an article from Vanity Fair: The Ambani Wedding Will Set “Trends for Decades to Come,” According to Fashion Insiders Legoktm ( talk) 01:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I heavily agree ― Howard • 🌽³³ 06:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep: The wedding has received (and is continuing to receive) a wide range of coverage in global media from reliable sources, several of which are explicitly projecting long-term impact and effects. The delete votes so far misunderstand what makes an event (as separate from an individual) notable. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) ^{Talk to Me!} 11:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: per nom, also Wikipedia is not a newspaper WP:NOTNEWS. Youknow? ( talk) 11:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep All the more I have a great disdain for these type of media hype, I can't help but point out that this event passes GNG. Coverage started way before the wedding. The pre-wedding ceremonies received extensive coverage as well. And it is very likely that this event will be discussed for years to come in mainstream media, which we use as a barometer for notability. X ( talk) 14:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep This article is now expanded. Pachu Kannan ( talk) 16:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep The article is covered by the reliable sources and references of major news networks from all over the world. Also the wedding is notable as many famous Celebrities around the world attend the event. 223.123.17.252 ( talk) 05:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep See /info/en/?search=Wedding_of_Prince_William_and_Catherine_Middleton Astropulse ( talk) 22:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep I believe since people are still searching for this wedding and its festivities, let this page be there as a one stop for all the information. This wedding is still trending, and when it loses its charm (say October 2024) we can discuss its deletion. vishalkhopkar — Preceding undated comment added 03:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep as notable. 『π』 BalaM314 〘talk〙 14:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep notable and similar article Wedding_of_Prince_William_and_Catherine_Middleton DSP2092 ( 👤, 🗨️)
• Keep: Like Wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep, as disgusting as it is, it has ignited an important debate about wealth inequality in India and beyond, Bacus15 ( talk) 09:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sikandar (2025 film)

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Nominated per WP:TOOSOON. Twinkle1990 ( talk) 14:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Draftify; WP:CRYSTAL Promotional hype is not a source of wisdom for wikipedia. - Altenmann >talk 16:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

These searches may or may not be more helpful than those above: Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL. Phil Bridger ( talk) 16:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Strong Keep; Salman Khan's film aren't the usually cancelled or shelved, especially in past few years., And I disagree with WP:TOOSOON, as Brad Pitt starrer F1 (film) is set to release in June 2025, while Sikandar is confirmed to release in March 2025. I suggest review on this. bɑʁɑqoxodaraP ( talk) 19:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

This is the review that you suggest. The news sources that I linked suggest that shooting has begun, passing the first part of WP:NFF, but I wont give a bolded opinion because I think that our standards for anything to do with the film world are too lax. I would say that same if I was commenting on the Brad Pitt film. Phil Bridger ( talk) 20:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

If you compare the two articles, F1 has a much more developed production section, with significantly more information, more sources and more than enough to show the production itself is notable, meeting NFF. Ravensfire ( talk) 20:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Draft: This does not meet WP:NFF as there isn't enough to show the production itself is notable. A handful of standard publicity pieces and basic information doesn't meet that criteria. Move to draft until the production section is better developed with good sources. Ravensfire ( talk) 20:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Draftify Find some neutral and non-churny sources, please; the 'poster' image (which isn't even a poster) is also out because it was literally ripped off the film's Twitter account. We also can't concievably compare the production track of a large-scale Hollywood action film about auto racing to whatever this is (that we don't have a plot to, mind you). Nate • ( chatter) 23:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Draftify The F1 (film) comparison is useful in showing the kind of sourced information that we'd need to meet WP:NFF—details about the production history and distribution. Right now it's primarily announcements about development and pre-production since production only began recently. hinnk ( talk) 00:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Draftify: Fails WP:NFF as there isn't enough to show the production notablity. Charliehdb ( talk) 04:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Draftify. This is another case of a movie article created way ahead and has not even reached post-production stage. Too early to have an article in namespace. RangersRus ( talk) 12:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Can you please highlight where in Wikipedia:Notability (films) it says that a film article should not be created until it has reached the post production stage? Jeraxmoira🐉 ( talk) 07:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Procedural keep: Not a valid reason to nominate an article for deletion WP:DEL-REASON. WP:TOOSOON is an essay that does not supersede the notability guideline/criterion for future films WP:NFF. Principal photography is confirmed in multiple reliable sources. [2], [3], [4] and [5] Jeraxmoira🐉 ( talk) 06:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Anshul Garg

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This individual lacks notability on his own. His entire article centers around his associations with Tony Kakkar and Neha Kakkar, rather than highlighting any significant achievements or contributions he has made independently. Also, the references are about Tony Kakkar and Neha Kakkar. Fails WP:ARTIST. Charlie ( talk) 12:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Basen Murmu

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There is no evidence of notability. The previous AfD was closed as a soft delete. I searched for reliable, independent sources with significant information but found nothing to establish the subject as notable. GrabUp - Talk 07:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete A quick search does not bring any reliable sources, and the sources in the article also does not pass the WP:DEPTH requirement.

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• Delete. I agree: no evidence of notability. Despite that, I have made a couple of corrections to overcome the absurdies about his age. Athel cb ( talk) 08:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I have added the reference which mentions his age. ᱤᱧ ᱢᱟᱛᱟᱞ ( talk) 08:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep: There's coverage from a newspaper and a television station. That probably adds up to notability. Лисан аль-Гаиб ( talk) 09:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Hardly any coverage for this fellow. Few reports of his death, but that's not notable. I don't see much we can use here. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Poor unreliable sources on the page. Nothing notable on the page to warrant an article on this subject. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus ( talk) 12:32, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Andh Bhakt

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Recent AFD resulted in deletion. Article was then re-created, but still isn't notable. PepperBeast (talk) 02:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete. Was deleted literally last month. Still doesn't show any notability for inclusion. Would be better suited for a Wiktionary entry. Procyon117 ( talk) 09:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete. It was deleted before yet I don't see any change in the article. Xoocit ( talk) 09:06, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Concept Medical

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Article is a WP:PROMO Fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for corporations, as explained in WP:NCORP, WP:ORGCRIT. Fails WP:RSP. Sponsored content published at supplements ( WP:NEWSORGINDIA). Renomination reason: sock puppet activity in the prior AfD discussion, also six months have passed since the last AfD. Charlie ( talk) 04:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: A Florida company, with an article sourced to Indian news sources, seems a bit odd... They exist, but there is no coverage of them we'd use, that isn't PR-ish. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Manish Doshi

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Article is a WP:PROMO, fails WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:BIO. Renomination reason: sock puppet activity in the prior AfD discussion, also six months have passed since the last AfD. Charlie ( talk) 04:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Fails WP:GNG even WP:BASIC. Youknow? ( talk) 16:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

M.K Varghese

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BLP of a local mayor who does not pass NPOL and is not otherwise notable. Mccapra ( talk) 21:18, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete Local officials are not automatically notable, and I don't see the kind of news coverage needed to satisfy GNG either. BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 06:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: He is mayor of a metropolis city and we keep mayors of metropolis in US so why not we keep of India. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ ^{Let's Talk !} 04:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

It’s a district capital and mayors of district capitals in the U.S. are not generally notable. Mccapra ( talk) 08:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment BottleOfChocolateMilk is correct about the standard our community uses to judge local elected officials. We want to see coverage of how a local elected official action impacts their community, especially with a retrospective perspective. What is interesting in this case is that the subject has received a lot of coverage for his praise of BJP leader Suresh Gopi and speculation about the mayor's political future. I wonder if that coverage is regional or national in nature, and to what degree this is a WP:BLP1E flurry of coverage. -- Enos733 ( talk) 16:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Local politician who seems to have a bigger head than his notoriety. Speculation is nothing. Lauding, endorsing, or supporting other political figures is not inherited notability. Insufficient coverage per WP:SIGCOV. Bearian ( talk) 02:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Aangan Ke Laxmi

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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. In fact there not even enough sourcing ( or content) to figure out what this is about. Appears to be a mashup of two different films with similar names. Aangan Ke Laxmi and Aangan Ki Laxmi Info box says 1986 film but the only two sources that actually discuss it are short "future film" type pieces from a couple years ago. Found nothing in a search for Aangan Ke Laxmi North8000 ( talk) 18:45, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment: It appears there have been a few mixups here. It looks like Aangan Ke Laxmi (the article title) is a 1986 film (entirely non-notable); see this mention in a book bibliography. Sources 3 and 4 in the article are referring to a film called Aangan Ki Laxmi (sometimes Aangan Ki Lakshimi), which has more coverage and was released last year. Aangan Ki Laxmi probably meets NFILM/GNG (see [6] [7] [8] and on Google). It would be helpful here if the creator ( NIA3000) clarifies what exactly this article is about or if the two films are related. If it is about the 1986 film, then I vote delete. Otherwise, I am not familiar enough with the topic to decide what to do here. C F A 💬 19:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment if the second film is notable, would Draftifying this help? Get it sorted out and publish back in mainspace with proper sourcing. Oaktree b ( talk) 22:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

That would be fine with me. But there's a lot to sort out, starting with the title. And there's not much to save. North8000 ( talk) 13:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Shabana Shajahan Aryan

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Previously deleted and salted as Shabana Shajahan/ Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shabana Shajahan * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep: 2 lead roles In notable series have her clearly meet WP:NACTOR. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Keep: I concur with Mushy Yank. At least two co-leading roles in the television series Sembaruthi and Mr. Manaivi. Fulfills NACTOR#1. — Prince of Erebor（ The Book of Mazarbul） 16:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Khan Sir

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This stub about an Internet personality whose channel is education based was recently accepted at AFC. I believe it to be a borderline acceptance, which is fine of itself. AFC reviewers role is to accept drafts which they believe have a better than 50% chance of surviving an immediate deletion process. As a fellow AFC reviewer I believe that the subject is not verified to pass WP:BIO, and that the draft was below the acceptance threshold. On that basis I would not have accepted it. The referencing is independent, yes, but the content of the references is gossip column-like trivia, which simulates significant coverage, but which is not. I see the only way of resolving this is for the community to discuss it, hence AfD 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment: I am not going to vote here since my stance is clear, as I accepted the draft. At the time I saw the draft, it was not passing GNG, but I know the personality well and thought he might already have a Wikipedia article. When I found out he did not, I started to find significant coverages and added many that are currently cited. I respect Timtrent’s judgment, and we already discussed it on my talk page. We would like to get the community's views on the article. Lastly, I want to add that if the article can’t be kept, we can draftify it, as it has good sourcing, and the subject may gain more coverage to establish notability in the future. Happy editing. GrabUp - Talk 13:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment: Draftification is a perfectly acceptable outcome to me as nominator. I ought to have said that in the nomination. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Weak Keep per WP:DONOTDEMOLISH - Subject has a reasonable claim to notability, and I don't see what draftifying would accomplish. ~ Politicdude ( About me, talk, contribs) 18:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment: I have done some research to find Hindi sources and interestingly found many that may establish notability.
  * BBC Hindi | * News18 Hindi | * NewsNation | * AmarUjala | * News18 Hindi and * Dainik Jagran Hindi
  In my opinion, the BBC Hindi one is a very powerful source with significant coverage. I will leave it to the community. Thanks. GrabUp - Talk 08:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I think its the time for voting Keep. GrabUp - Talk 08:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Last vehicle board

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Doesn't seem to meet WP:N. Boleyn ( talk) 18:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete I can find a few sites describing why the last car in Indian trains has an X symbol: [9], [10], [11], but that doesn't make it a notable concept, since these are just quirky did-you-know sort of items. Analogy: I can find articles explaining why pencils are often painted yellow: [12], but that doesn't make Color of pencils a notable concept. WeirdNAnnoyed ( talk) 01:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge with End-of-train device (as I suggested when deprodding), which is another technology with the same purpose (and likely there are others from different railways around the world). This isn't notable on it's own, but the broader concept is and the target article itself is possibly too narrow on it's own. Thryduulf ( talk) 17:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Dr. Bro

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I had double thoughts before finally agreeing that the notability of this article is very questionable. Firstly having many subscribers or views on YouTube doesnt credibly means the article is notable. There is nothing whatsoever credible about this article. There are some promotional contents in the article. For me, it doesnt meet WP:GNG, and such, I may decline in an AFC review. Safari Scribe ^{Edits! Talk!} 15:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Weak Keep It looks like there are some decent references and he has over 2 million subscribers, but I think cleanup is needed to solidify notability here. Royal Autumn Crest ( talk) 15:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Amassing a large number of YouTube subscribers is not a criteria of finding how notable a YouTuber is. Safari Scribe ^{Edits! Talk!} 10:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • How common is it to have that amount of subscribers? I suppose some of the subscriber numbers could be inflated. Royal Autumn Crest ( talk) 21:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Draftify Frankly, article looks like promotional content and should be wholly rewritten. I do also have some doubts about notability of the individual, but, given the followers count, I guess it could fit WP:GNG or WP:ENT Vorann Gencov ( talk) 14:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I agree with userfying the article, as well as marking as promised. Safari Scribe ^{Edits! Talk!} 16:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Sources 7-8 are interviews, so primary. Source 9 is a photo essay, 10 is a PR item. 12 and 13 appear brief photo essays. I can only find similar things, this [ https://www.news9live.com/state/karnataka/karnataka-vlogger-dr-bro-kannada-speaks-to-somalian-pirate-2313620, where he interviews someone. Not much of any real coverage in RS, nothing we can use to build an article. Oaktree b ( talk) 01:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Otherwise, his youtube channel, a video about having a viral video... The Asian Newstable doesn't seem like a RS. I'm not sure there are any sources we can use in the article. Oaktree b ( talk) 01:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Indians in Luxembourg

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Fails GNG, 2 of the 3 sources are dead. The estimated population is very small at around 1000, and no significant coverage of their contribution to Luxembourg society. LibStar ( talk) 06:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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I think we should consider renaming this to the Indian Association of Luxembourg.

There appears to be significant sourcing for that at least.

[13] [14] [15] Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 03:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

K added a few sources, but still not convinced its quite notable. This article still has massive amounts of texts that are unsourced. As far as I can tell, its mostly been anon IPs adding random bits of info. Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 04:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

If nobody else can find useful sourcing, i'll vote Delete Bluethricecreamman ( talk) 06:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• I think it’s confusing and poorly written. Not sure what to do with it. Bearian ( talk) 02:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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List of educational organisations in North Paravur

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Non notable list per WP:LIST. WP:DIRECTORY applies too with no WP:SIGCOV. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 10:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Merge Redirect to North_Paravur#Educational_organisations. Changed my vote to redirect because I do not think it makes any better to merge the list that fails significant coverage with no reliable secondary independent sources and fails WP:NLIST. RangersRus ( talk) 12:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect to North Paravur: As nominator, I won't mind a redirect to the parent town article either. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 12:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Bhimadeva

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MOS:DABMENTION requires "If the topic is not mentioned in the other article, that article should not be linked to in the disambiguation page". "Bhimadeva" is mentioned only in Bhima of Mahikavati, probably not a good target for a redirect. I suggest this page is deleted in order to enable uninhibited use of Search. A PROD was reverted by @ Utcursch: with edit summary ( https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=bhimadeva+caulukya) without editing any targeted article. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 18:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hindi Hai Hum

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Fails WP:GNG, doesn't have any reference source. — Hemant Dabral ( 📞 • ✒) 04:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect to Real_(TV_channel)#Drama: where it's listed, and add a source ( https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/2009/Feb/26/real-tv-channel-to-go-on-air-from-march-2-28746.html or a more detailed one, like https://nettv4u.com/about/hindi/tv-serials/hindi-hai-hum) - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Per nom and no sources with indepth coverage. I would not even consider to redirect the page to Real_(TV_channel)#Drama because this page too fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP with no significant coverage that was up for only one year from 2009 to 2010. RangersRus ( talk) 12:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect as above: redirects are cheap, and this one is justified by a source. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 14:32, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Manuel D'Lima

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. None of the sources are about him. Sources (and much of the content) are about taitrs. Material on him is just resume type material. North8000 ( talk) 17:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage on the subject. The subject fails notability. RangersRus ( talk) 18:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Comment a number of references are from offline books. Has the nominator managed to access them ? Atlantic306 ( talk) 18:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

It's hard to answer with respect to what you are seeing because there have been 104 edits to the article since I nominated this. But I did evaluate them at the time. North8000 ( talk) 18:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Well, a lot was added after you nominated this, including several refs, but much of it was WP:PROMO, fluff, repetition, and stuff about the genre of theatre that, I think, has no direct relevance to D'Lima's career. I tried to reduce the promo, cruft, repetition and tangential stuff, but someone else should review the refs to see if they actually discuss Liima's life or career at all. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 23:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Mayank Shekhar

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Article does not meet WP:GNG and WP:JOURNALIST. Subject did receive an award Ramnath Goenka Award for Excellence in Journalism. Source 1 is a book review, source 2 is a blog, source 3 has a passing comment made by the subject himself, source 4 is a review by subject himself, source 5 is a bio written by subject himself, source 6 is more on bio written by subject himself, source 7 is a link to Ramnath Goenka Award and source 8 is a book written by subject himself. Many unreliable and primary sources here. Draftify would be an option to improve the page with secondary independent sources and remove primary sources like the reviews by the subject himself and the interview with the subject. RangersRus ( talk) 15:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

If the award is judged significant enough, he could meet WP:ANYBIO. If his books have received coverage that is judged sufficiently significant (including the review you mention, or https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/name-place-animal-thing-of-bollywood-trivia-popular-culture/articleshow/52685080.cms or https://www.spectralhues.com/news/bookreview-name-place-animal-thing-mayank-shekhar/), he might also meet WP:AUTHOR. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

TOI makes it under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. I still do not find his books a significant monument or been a substantial part of a significant exhibition or won wide significant critical attention by well known peers and critics in secondary independent sources. RangersRus ( talk) 18:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

TOI falling under NEWSORGINDIA is an interpretation that I respect but with which I disagree in this case (not great journalism but not simply unreliable). The fact that the author of the book is one of the film critics of the Hindustan Times also indicates the article in the TOI should be rather independent.-- - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Mushy Yank: The article from TOI doesn't look like a review at all; it seems more like a promotional piece or an announcement. Additionally, the article was published by PTI. I don't think he meets WP:AUTHOR. GrabUp - Talk 16:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Note about the Times of India: The Sources noticeboard says not to use it for political subject matters for example, which the Indian task force clarifies: "Uncontroversial content such as film reviews are usable". Consensus is that concern about retributed coverage exists, but not to the point of making it unreliable. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Reply to Note: TOI has trivia (likely promotion) from the subject's book and is not a review that I glanced over again and spectralhues.com is likely unreliable source as it says "Spectral Hues has been founded by a couple of starry-eyed romantics with their feet firmly planted on the ground (a rather unusual combination, we know!)." This is not a well established news media or website. About The Times of India, Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources says The Times of India is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. It has a bias in favor of the Indian government and is known to accept payments from persons and entities in exchange for positive coverage. So this puts in question the promotion by using trivia taken from the book written by the subject. RangersRus ( talk) 14:16, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep - clearly notable; a prolific film critic who is also known for his in-depth interviews with major film stars. The Ramnath Goenka Award for Excellence in Journalism is no mean achievement, and he is the first film critic to have received it. I have added a reference for an interview with him for the The Asian Age. At best, the article needs expansion, certainly not deletion. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Shshshsh ( talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. reply

• Indeed, I should have mentioned that I hapeen to have been the creator of this page many years back. I actually didn't even remember I was the one who created it, as I've created numerous pages for notable Indian film critics. As someone who has worked on Indian cinema-related articles, I can attest to the relevance of his reviews on dozens of film articles, including several FAs. Him being an author as well as the winner of a notable award only consolidates my position. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  interviews are primary sources that needs to cite the truth of the statements unless attributed. RangersRus ( talk) 11:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ RangersRus: Didn't undersrtand what you said here, please explain. Shahid • ^Talk2me 13:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Interviews are considered primary non-independent source. Independent sources helps to fairly portray the subject, without undue attention to the subject's own views. If you use interviews as source for any statement made by the subject then the subject's statements needs to be cited with secondary independent source as well. Wikipedia:Independent sources. RangersRus ( talk) 14:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Shshshsh: The award “ Ramnath Goenka Excellence in Journalism Awards” is given to over 20 people every year. Do you think this is an exclusive award that can make recipients notable? GrabUp - Talk 16:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep, see my reply to nomination above.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep Clearly notable.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep very much notable, as pointed out above. Krimuk2.0 ( talk) 09:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: I am not convinced that he meets any notability criteria. He fails WP:ANYBIO, as the award is not exclusive, with more than 20 people receiving it. Receiving the award first or last does not make it exceptional or add to notability. Regarding WP:AUTHOR, The Times of India is not a review, merely a short promotional or announcement piece with no author, published by the Press Trust of India (PTI), therefore, it does not meet WP:AUTHOR criteria. The person does not meet the General Notability Guideline, which is already known. Also, I don't understand how interviews with celebrities establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 09:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep as the award is a notable national award as per WP:Anybio and having specific award categories does not invalidate that in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Ramnath Goenka Award is not national award. It is award named after journalist Ramnath Goenka that began in 2006 and is awarded to over 20 journalists every year and is presented by Indian Express Group. RangersRus ( talk) 22:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Note to Closer. Keep votes are more focused on the subject's notability because of an award (not national award) but there is no argument on the unreliability of the sources on the page that are blogs, interviews with no secondary sources as attribution and self written reviews by the subject himself and part of WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Two keep votes consider him notable but have no argument as to why and the two other keep vote (including the creator of the page) do not have opinion on the argument about the page and the unreliable sources that fails WP:GNG. I think the page is at best Delete but Draftify is also an option if there is any scope of improvement with secondary independent reliable sources. If this page stays a keep, then likely it opens a Pandora box to use unreliable sources like blogs and interviews and self published reviews on other pages or newly generated pages. RangersRus ( talk) 22:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I really don’t understand why they are not providing good arguments for their Keep votes. It looks like @ Atlantic306 is just here to go along with the majority. The question raises because how can he call it a ‘national award’? Additionally, they are posting low effort delete votes and not giving any counterarguments, which raises some questions in my mind. GrabUp - Talk 02:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • In the UK and US a national award means it relates to the scope of a whole country not that it is given by the government. For example the Oscars and Grammy Awards are national awards that are given by private organisations, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 13:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    For UK and US, there is national award for films National Film Awards UK and National Film & TV Award USA. In India, for journalism, Press Council of India honours the journalists selected by the Jury/Council for having excelled in various fields on the occasion of National Press Day. This is national award. RangersRus ( talk) 15:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

    The award is not exclusive enough to establish notability. Every year, more than 20 people receive the award. Are they also notable for this award? I don’t think so. GrabUp - Talk 16:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Arjun Tudu

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The page was previously deleted because it fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG and it still holds true. Coderzombie ( talk) 10:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Per nom and per WP:BIO. The subject does not meet notability and biography is not enough to deserve attention or to be recorded. Poor sources with no WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus ( talk) 13:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Simply having a biography isn't enough for inclusion. If reliable sources can be found to establish notability, the article could be rewritten and resubmitted for review. Waqar 💬 16:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Keep - @ RangersRus:, @ Iwaqarhashmi:, I found [16], [17], [18], [ [19], [20], [21], [22], among many more English and Hindu sources (not to mention other Indian languages. Cleary was sigifnicant ifgure in Indian lower league football and was even called up to the senior India national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 04:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Das osmnezz ( talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. reply

• Most of these sources are interviews and paid promotions and do not help pass WP:NFOOTY. The player has not garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements because he has not played at an international level and he has not played for an entirely professional league to satisfy WP:GNG. He is an upcoming player but it is too early to warrant a page on this subject because of insufficient significant achievements.

RangersRus ( talk) 12:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)' reply

ALl of the sources have tons of secondary coverage that I will gladly cite if asked and there is no indication that any of them are paid promotions... Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 05:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete doesn't appear to have ever played in a notable league BFC Aspie ( talk) 17:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep—I wanted to vote the opposite way, because this article is absolutely atrocious in its current state, but there is clearly enough coverage to meet WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann ( talk) 01:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment - To the closer, all delete votes are by users who seldom vote on football deletion debates who still think that players have to both meet WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Cleary was significant figure in Indian lower league football and was even called up to the senior India national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 05:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  "called up to the senior India national team" is not notability. If he played for national team, that would be something to consider. If he was just called up then it is also case of WP:TOOSOON. RangersRus ( talk) 19:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thats one of my more minor points, my point is that he was considered such a good player and significant figure in Indian lower leagues that he was called up to senior nationl team. This proves my point that all delete votes are by users who seldom vote on football deletion debates who still think that players have to both meet WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Either way, he has many secondary sources about him. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 23:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I never said has to meet both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. I am saying he passes neither. Doesn't pass WP:NFOOTBALL because he hasn't played professional football and the sources that exist don't justify WP:GNG Coderzombie ( talk) 09:00, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Tell me how this article doesnt meet WP:GNG. Im listening... just because he played in thje lower leagues doesnt meen he was a clear topic of interest in Indian football who is probably only lower league Indian palyer to be called up to senior national team.. Article needs improvement, not deletuon. THanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 02:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete Arjun Tudu's page should be deleted because he doesn't have enough coverage in reliable sources to meet the notability standards. Yakov-kobi ( talk) 14:00, 05 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment - to the closer, nobody has explained how he doesnt pass WP:GNG which he clarly does... just because he played in thje lower leagues doesnt meen he was a clear topic of interest in Indian football who is probably only lower league Indian palyer to be called up to senior national team. Article needs improvement, not deletuon. THanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 02:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep These are excellent references. The article is crap, but the subject clearly meets GNG. The previous deletion discussion years ago is irrelevant, given the amount of media coverage is major national papers since then. The GNG policy clearly supports keeping. I don't see what policy supports deletion. Nfitz ( talk) 17:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep - the comment about him being an "upcoming player" is nonsense as the subject is 34 years old. Per Das osmnezz and Nfitz, I cannot see any policy-based arguments for deletion here. The sources mentioned in this discussion would help the development of the article, but coupled with what is already in place there, they appear to establish a sufficient level of notability. C 679 16:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV. The article already contains a couple of reliable sources, it's easy to find more. Tau Corvi ( talk) 20:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Swadhin Axom

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Fails WP:GNG. Kautilya3 ( talk) 18:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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  Delete/Repurpose Dratify EDIT: vote changed since one source shows potential, see below;/ @ Flyingphoenixchips, moving the discussion here in the appropriate discussion channel. The movement for an independent Assam might pass WP:GNG and be worth an article. However, it should be an article about the movement, not a proposed state- and it needs to be supported by sources that talk about "Swadhin Axom" as an idea specifically rather than as an alternative name for Assam used by those who want independence. If you believe there are many sources in Google, then WP:DOIT and fix this article. We don't do original research on wikipedia. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 18:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  Hey thanks, the sources I mentioned do support it as an idea, and not as an alternative name. All sources are listed in the reference page. Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) 18:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  In no way was the article I have written am original research. Additionally many such articles on proposed states exist, and a separate category in wikipedia exists as well. Will those pages be deleted or just this, since its against a particular POV Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) 18:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  Swadhin Axom was never used as an alternate name for assam. Swadhin means Independent and the proposed independent state is just refered to as Assam or Axom- both are the same literals. Swadhin axom is used by academics to describe this proposed state. Ref: Prafulla Mohonto, Proposal for Independence. Would suggest you to read it Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) 18:59, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  To maintain neutrality, would suggest editing existing articles based on your arguments, using credible sources, instead of plain WP:I just don't like it. Wikipedia should never become a battleground of political ideologues. If you read the article its neutral, you can add additional pointers in the article, if you have sources for the same. Thanks Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) 19:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  Don't accuse me baselessly of just not liking it.

  You mentioned a google search, another wikipedia article and its sources on the Talk page- that's not enough when the question is whether "Swadhin Axom" as a concept should be a WP:CONTENTFORK from Assam. Wikipedia's neutrality policy is not about giving equal weight to every political opinion. It also doesn't say that we should have a different article for every political way of looking at something.

  Sources and GNG

  Now let's look at the actual sources in this article:

  • Source 1 - Ivy Dhar has extensive discussion of the idea of Swadhin Axom, specifically in relation to the ULFA and nationalism
  • Source 2 - Nipon Haloi only mentions it once
  • Source 3 - Dutta & Laisram only mention it once
  • Source 4 - Udayon Misra only mentions it once
  • Source 5 - Not only does Santana Khanikar only mention it once (outside of the glossary), she proceeds to call the proto-state as simply the ULFA instead of Swadhin Axom.
  • Source 6 - Swadhin Axom is only mentioned as part of the title of a speech
  • Source 7 - Does not mention it
  • Source 8, 9 and 10 - Does not mention it- all about the 1970s Assam Movement
  • Source 11 - Does not mention it
  • Source 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 - Does not mention it, not even in the entire book of Source 17. These are all about the 1970s Assam Movement
  • Source 18 - cannot access myself but also looks like a book entirely about the Assam Movement
  • Source 19, 20, 21, 22 - Does not mention it
  • etc. etc.

  Now, I couldn't keep going through the remaining 40+ sources but this is only to highlight one issue: the article doesn't really meet WP:GNG standards. Not every sources need to meet WP:GNG, but there should be at least one to establish that the article is notable. Source 1 is a good source for this article, and there may be more in the 40+ citations I couldn't get to.

  However, I would still delete this article and draftify it (I changed my vote) because:

  WP:V - Verifiability

  Just from the first 20, I suspect a lot of these sources were thrown on there because they came up in the Google Scholar search for "Swadhin Axom". Wikipedia requires that the content be verified based on the content of the sources. We don't do original research by giving our own analysis of the source.

  For specific example, let's take the sentence "Figures like Bishnu Prasad Rabha, a multifaceted artist and social reformer, Tarun Ram Phukan, a prominent political leader, and Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, a key figure in the Assam Movement and a former Chief Minister of Assam, have played crucial roles in advancing the cause of Swadhin Axom" It's supported by Sources 14-18. If you will recall from my list above, these are all about the 1970s Assam Movement that don't mention the idea of Swadhin Axom. If Swadhin Axom is really not just a local name for the English phrase 'independent Assam', then you would need a source to connect Swadhin Axom and the Assam Movement, instead of providing the original analysis that the Assam Movement was an important part of the Swadhin Axom proposed state.

  I will reiterate that I think that the article Assamese nationalism would make more sense for the sources you are using. If the article is just about providing more WP:NPOV perspectives about Assam- those should go in the Assam article. If this article is supposed to be about a proposed state it needs to show that the proposed state is a proposed state. From what I see, it might be better focused on the ULFA explicitly, their governing structures etc. In its current state, this article is not fit for mainspace. And it's not because WP:IDONTLIKEIT. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 00:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

• Thank you for your careful work in checking all the sources. But I am not convinced that the single source (Ivy Dhar) that you mention can save the article. First of all, the source is a Master's thesis, which is normally not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. Secondly, it is only a small section (4.04) that discusses the concept, and it does so in the context of Assamese nationalism and most of the section deals with ULFA, both of which already have their own pages on Wikipedia. I don't agree that this source establishes "Swadhin Axom" as an independent topic that merits its own page. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 14:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  Yes- I'm saying that it can be draftified and potentially reworked into an article actually about the specific idea- based on assuming good faith that maybe one of the 40 sources I didnt check have something useful. Not particularly opposed to deletion, and if there are no other sources this should be a section of Assamese nationalism as you propose.

  A master's thesis is a reliable source- the policy you link to cautions against blimdly accepting since many theses do original research and are therefore sometime primary sources. But that's not the case here where the author is describing existing sentiment, not coming up the idea of Swadhin Axom outright. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 15:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Alright let me have a look a this article again, and try finding secondary articles on the idea. However i don't feel this should be merged with the ULFA page as its solely not connected to ulfa, and is something like Dravida Nadu Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) 02:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete Most of the article is WP:SYNTH. United Liberation Front of Asom could be a redirect target ... but this title is misspelled (Axom instead of Asom). Walsh90210 ( talk) 04:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  I would like to disagree, since the idea of "Swadhin Axom" (Independent Assam) deserves nuanced understanding and should not be exclusively linked to the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA). While ULFA has prominently championed this cause of an independent Assam through armed struggle, the concept of Swadhin Axom encompasses a broader spectrum of historical, cultural, and socio-political aspirations that predate and extend beyond ULFA's formation. Also both Axom and Asom are used, you will find articles using both the terms.

  Pre-ULFA Aspirations: The desire for a distinct Assamese identity and autonomy can be traced back to the colonial and pre-colonial eras. Movements and sentiments advocating for Assam's self-determination existed well before ULFA's establishment in 1979 (Guha, 1991, 56). Cultural and Ethnic Diversity: The idea of Swadhin Axom also reflects the rich cultural and ethnic diversity of the region. It includes the voices of various indigenous communities who have sought to preserve their unique identities and heritage (Baruah, 2005, 112).

  Political Autonomy Movements: Throughout Assam's history, various groups and political entities have called for greater autonomy and recognition of Assam's distinct status within India. These movements have often been peaceful and democratic, emphasizing dialogue over armed conflict (Misra, 2012, 143).

  Both of the 3 papers are important sources

  Therefore, I propose renaming the Wikipedia article to "Proposal for Swadhin Axom" instead, because it is of relevance to the geopolitics concerning greater southeast asia as well

  Ref:

  Baruah, Sanjib. Durable Disorder: Understanding the Politics of Northeast India. New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 2005.

  Dutta, Anuradha. Assam and the Northeast: Development and Conflict. Guwahati: Eastern Book House, 2010.

  Goswami, Priyadarshini. Ethnicity, Insurgency and Identity in Northeast India. New Delhi: Manohar Publishers, 2001.

  Guha, Amalendu. Planter Raj to Swaraj: Freedom Struggle and Electoral Politics in Assam 1826-1947. New Delhi: Indian Council of Historical Research, 1991.

  Misra, Udayon. The Periphery Strikes Back: Challenges to the Nation-State in Assam and Nagaland. Shimla: Indian Institute of Advanced Study, 2012.

  Sharma, Monirul Hussain. The Assam Movement: Class, Ideology, and Identity. New Delhi: Manohar Publishers, 2004. Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) 03:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ Kautilya3and @ Walsh90210 @ EmeraldRange Hey also wanted to point out 3 volumes of books that looked into this topic. Swadhinataar Prostab & Economics of Swadhin Axom. I feel these sources

  You mentioned the following:

  " If this article is supposed to be about a proposed state it needs to show that the proposed state is a proposed state."

  I was only looking at english sources, and there is a lack of literature when it comes to Northeast India.

  There is one article from a newspaper that briefly talks about this idea, but does not elaborate on it: https://www-asomiyapratidin-in.translate.goog/assam/parag-kumar-das-memorial-lecture?_x_tr_sl=bn&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

  I am offering a brief translation below from assamese :

  However, the proposal or demand for independence is not limited to generations. After the Greco-Roman period, proposals for independence were raised. Buli commented that Tetia's memory is still alive today due to Dr. Mishra's agitation in the Indian freedom struggle. But that freedom was not real freedom, many people raised the issue of muklikoi quora during this period.

  Teon Koy, 1947 The freedom that was gained in Chant country was not real freedom. That freedom was in political freedom. Without social freedom, there will be total freedom. Therefore, many of those freedoms are not complete freedom, many of them were promoting social equality and elimination of discrimination in order to achieve complete freedom.

  The disillusionment was largely disillusioned with the passage of time after independence. All those who hoped for independence were disappointed. During the 60s and 70s, the common people were angry about the socio-economic inequality. About which the movement was started. Protests were held by university and college students. Around that time revolutions were starting in different countries of the world. Apart from political freedom, social freedom, social and economic discrimination, women's freedom was also raised.

  This movement started in Europe and reached America. The Vietnam war was forced to end on the basis of this protest. In the next period, the black people's movement was influenced by this movement, which was the global judge. Kakat also made posters on this topic in Indian schools, and propagated about this movement through discussion.

  Dr. Mishra thought that period of 60-70s was the golden age. Because there was a lot of hope in this demand or movement at that time. The literary majesty of that time was influenced by this movement. A new curriculum was being prepared with the support of intellectuals, college teachers and others who supported the movement to raise the demand for curriculum change. Slogans were being written for the liberation of poor women.

  ofc the two books would be the primary source for this article, and there are several sources - secondary analysis done on these books which can be taken as the secondary supporting sources Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) 03:52, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

It should be noted that "Swadhin Asom" (there is a misspelling) literally means Independent Assam, and this should be the article instead, an article that describes the motives for an independent Assam. as there are many different sources that describe this movement as a whole. — Karnataka 09:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete upon review, I don't think the sources in the article necessarily support an article on this specific topic - it does not mean that there should not be coverage of those wanting independence in Assam, but this appears to be possibly about a geographical region and the sources do not support that. WP:NOTESSAY also applies. Drafitfying is fine, but I'm not sure there's a clear topic here after a BEFORE search. SportingFlyer T· C 12:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply
• Selective merge to Assam separatist movements or United Liberation Front of Asom. These appear to be the appropriate places for discussion of the causes for an independence movement and related activism, but there doesn't need to be a separate page for the proposed state like this. Flyingphoenixchips's sources and some of this article's content belong in those articles.

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• Merge and redirect to Assam separatist movements. A lot of the references talk about this wider topic, and perhaps the even wider topic of political alignment in Assam. The idea is broader than just being related to United Liberation Front of Asom, so I'm not sure a merger there would work effectively. CMD ( talk) 09:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep with modifications As others pointed out too, the topic is not suitable for just under ULFA or Assam separatist movement, and I had pointed out to two books whole volumes that talk about this topic. Modifications can always be made to this article itself. Flyingphoenixchips ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:28, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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