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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:36, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Subsonic Factor

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Contested PROD. Musical act with no reliable sources to indicate WP:GNG. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 22:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to NESN#Former. ✗ plicit 12:44, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

SportsDesk

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Unsourced, minimal sourcing found. As a one-market show it's unlikely to have garnered media attention Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 20:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 01:07, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Moguls (TV series)

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No sourcing found, prod contested Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 20:42, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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Delete, a search for any sources turns up nothing relevant, apart from IMBD (not reliable), therefore not notable per WP:GNG. HenryTemplo ( talk) 15:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete The Ski Channel was a long-term 'coming soon' entry in the '20xx in American television' series of articles...but it was never more than a specialist VOD service which has long went defunct. Thus, this is a television series that never actually aired, much less scheduled, on an actual cable network. Nate • ( chatter) 01:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Guerillero Parlez Moi 20:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Andreas Renner

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other than sexual harassment accusation, not notable. WP:BLP1E applies. Not enough to be in Wikipedia. —  rsjaffe  🗣️ 23:34, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

W. N. Chattin Carlton

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Extent of notability unclear Mooonswimmer 22:56, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete the sourcing to justify an article is not there, and his career does not meet any of the prongs of notability for academics. Heads of libraries can be notable for such, or for their work as a librarian, or as a scholar more generally, but to show that we would need better sources than we have here. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:50, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Significant list of publications, notability is clearly established. Gamaliel ( talk) 16:24, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    I'll play devil's advocate. Which of these are significant and how?
    The following are reprintings of speeches or very short works, including catalogs of collections.
    • The Arrangement and Use of Documents (without Cataloguing) in a Depository Library. Hartford, Connecticut, 1909.: 32 leaves. Short. Revision of a paper read. Not significant.
    • The Catalogue of the E.D. Church Collection. Papers of the Bibliographical Society of America, 1912.: 5 pages. Even shorter. A cataloging of a collection is not significant; this probably doesn't even belong in a Wikipedia article, even if it was published.
    • Henry Edwards Huntington, 1850-1927: An Appreciation. New York: American Collector, 1927: 20 pages. Short.
    • Notes on the Bridgewater House Library. New York: Priv. Print., 1918.: 20 pages. You can read them here. Short.
    • Superstructures. New York Public Library, 1918.: 13 pages. Short. "An address delivered at the commencement exercises of the Library school, the New York public library, June 7, 1918... Reprinted ... from the Bulletin of the New York public library of June 1918." Not significant.
    • The Kilmarnock Burns, 1786. New York: G.D. Smith Book Co., 1927.: 7 pages with illustrations. Short.
    2 books:
    • Charles Jeremy Hoadly, LL.D.: A Memoir. Hartford, Connecticut: Acorn Club, 1902.: 54 pages: Short. More significant for the subject than for the author, but sure, it's a book.
    • Pauline: Favourite Sister of Napoleon. New York & London, 1930.: WorldCat has little on this one. It may be 300+ pages, according to Google. Not sure of its significance or the significance of the other book--reviews, etc.
    So why do you say "significant list of publications, notability is clearly established"? I'm about to vote delete but I'll change my vote if you can shed enough light. DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 20:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Does not meet GNG or author notability. Carlton's era was a good time for WASP males in academia, history, genealogy, and librarianship. They did research, they wrote books, they gave presentations, and they had their speeches, their cataloging, and sometimes the occasional books published somewhere and some of those documents are cataloged in archives. Some of those documents are now in the public domain and have been digitized and are held by multiple institutions now. But just because they were part of social or even scholarly clubs doesn't make them notable (note the article history: it was created by someone creating articles for multiple members of a club). This article has nothing that indicates notability and I am not finding an obituary on newspapers.com. I would expect to find such for a director of Newberry Library, so I'm afraid it's delete unless someone can show me something. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 20:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Update: the article creator added 2 obit listings in the references section and some information apparently from those obits. I tracked down the obituaries on newspapers.com and linked them in the article. (Issues with initials and multiple names going on in my first search.) I have removed a deadlink, cited these obituaries properly, fixed up the order, and clarified that most of his works were papers adapted from presentations he gave or bibliographies he created. These do not help his notability. If someone finds out that what appears to be his sole full-length book, on Napoleon's sister, got some press back in the day, please add some reviews to the article. With a whopping 3 holdings in WorldCat, I'm not optimistic it made too big of waves, but who knows? DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 13:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Meesons

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Chain seems to have existed, notability isn't apparent. Mooonswimmer 22:36, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete The article is entirely unsourced and the only source includes a small reference commenting on a photo of Meesons sweet shop where you could buy a quarter of sweets and get another quarter free. Also, our policy WP:V states that information should be verifiable. Necrothesp validly points out that online sources won't be readily available for a chain that disappeared in the 1970s but online searches of newspaper archives and books doesn't turn up any information or mention. On that basis it is difficult to argue for notability. HighKing ++ 20:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Although I found a brief mention in the Glasgow Herald, print sources are the best case for this. There's precious little coverage available. In its current state, it appears to be a collection of knowledge from someone's memory thus failing WP:V. Can always be reworked on if archives are found. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 20:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 03:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Reidar Lunde

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Couldn't come up with significant ample coverage, not sure if notable. Lunde was chief editor of Aftenposten, Norway's most circulated newspaper. Would this fall under WP:JOURNALIST's "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors" ? Mooonswimmer 22:30, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Ottoman Turkish alphabet. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Tirfil

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Subject matter doesn't seem to warrant a standalone page. Once translated, a sentence or two can be incorporated into Ottoman Turkish alphabet or similar articles. Mooonswimmer 22:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Could these additional sources be added to the article? Liz Read! Talk! 05:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Pytkeev space

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"Pytkeev space" is defined in a single 2000 paper, in terms so specialized we have no articles for them. The term is not in general use and easily confused with the "strong Pytkeev property". Links to weakly Fréchet–Urysohn space, an ad-hoc definition in the same paper.

Simply not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. IpseCustos ( talk) 21:03, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. Wikipedia has never published original research, such as this. Bearian ( talk) 17:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Weak keep. MathSciNet has three hits for "Pytkeev space", none of which are the Malykhin&Tironi paper used as this article's reference:
    • Fedeli, Alessandro; Le Donne, Attilio (2002), "Pytkeev spaces and sequential extensions", Topology and its Applications, 117 (3): 345–348, doi: 10.1016/S0166-8641(01)00026-8, MR  1874095 (definitely relevant: a response to Malykhin&Tironi solving an open problem from their paper)
    • Sakai, Masami (April 2003), "The Pytkeev property and the Reznichenko property in function spaces", Note di Matematica, 22 (2): 43–52, MR  2112730 (didn't come with a full-text link so I can't tell if it's the same concept, but the MR review says "An example: if X is a subset of the real line, Cp(X) is a Pytkeev space implies that X is perfectly meagre and has universal measure zero."
    • Pansera, Bruno A. (2008), "Relative properties and function spaces", Far East Journal of Mathematical Sciences (FJMS), 30 (2): 359–372, MR  2477776 (again, didn't come with a full-text link so I can't tell if the MR review's mention of Pytkeev spaces is the same concept)
There are also additional hits for "Pytkeev spaces", including the Malykhin&Tironi reference. I conclude that, with the Fedeli&Le Donne paper at least, we have multiple research groups using this term non-trivially, enough for a borderline pass of WP:GNG. Although I doubt many readers will find this article useful, it seems mostly harmless. And reporting on research concepts described in academic journal articles, as here, is the opposite of original research. — David Eppstein ( talk) 07:34, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 19:53, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Hasan Masurica

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See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hasan Masurica for a thorough explanation of the problems with this article. Much of this information is fantastical. —  rsjaffe  🗣️ 23:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 03:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

First Party

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Does not pass WP:GNG. Kadı Message 18:27, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Cartoonito (American programming block). Liz Read! Talk! 05:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Tickle-U

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Non-notable programming block, no sourcing found. Deprodded for literally no reason. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:27, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Merge to Cartoonito (American programming block) - Tickle-U ties in more as predecessor to Cartoonito. kpgamingz ( rant me) 14:44, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I was thinking something similar as well. We could either merge with Cartoonito (whole brand) or Cartoonito USA. MegaSmike46 ( talk) 18:00, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Ajaita Shah

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Poorly sourced, fails NBIO and GNG as the sources are all churnalistic entrepreneur profiles. Created by a blocked user. M4DU7 ( talk) 22:43, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. The case was not made that a redirect is within policy or desirable due to how common the phrase is. Guerillero Parlez Moi 13:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

The Best Sex Ever

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No sourcing found in a WP:BEFORE. Found only false positives using the phrase "best sex ever" unrelated contexts. Deprodded for no reason. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment. I checked and the editor who removed the PROD did so with the summary "Removed Proposed deletion/dated tag: "unlikely to have sources" not quite good enough for PROD, let's check". So, your assertion that it was "Deprodded for no reason." is yet another made up rationale in one of your AfD nominations. DonaldD23 talk to me 18:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Fails WP:GNG. Aside from routine entries in IMDb and the like, searches yield only incidental mentions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:32, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Plebiscito.eu. Liz Read! Talk! 23:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Veneto Yes

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A party that took part in an unofficial local election and of which it is almost impossible to find sources. It does not seems to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 22:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Having a separate article on this minor party is clearly better, as Wikipedia's greatness is made especially by small entries like this. However, I could also accept a merger with Plebiscito.eu. Veneto Yes was the partisan arm of the former. However, every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, indeed, also established and traditional encyclopedias also have small entries. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was Soft Delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:30, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Systemic wars theory

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Reviewed under new page patrol. No evidence of WP:notability. This is one person's theory. It appears that there is no in depth coverage of the theory except by the one person who created the theory, Ingo Piepers. It appears that 2-3 references criticized it. At least 5 (and probably more) of of the given references were written by Piepers. North8000 ( talk) 21:08, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Italian Liberal Party (1997). Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Liberals for Italy

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"Liberals for Italy" was nothing more than a label for a parliamentary subgroup affiliated with the Italian Liberal Party (1997) and subsequently for a list (directly connected to the Italian Liberal Party) that participated in the Italian general election of 2013 (scoring 0.08% of the vote). In practice, the little information contained in this page could easily be merged with Italian Liberal Party (1997), but I don't see any reason to keep an autonomous page for this label. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 21:05, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Why should we delete an article on a five to ten-deputy strong parliamentary group, or better sub-group within the Mixed Group of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy? Not only, the group was joined by several leading politicians, but also it lasted for two years, was instrumental in the demise of Silvio Berlusconi's fourth government. Why should we lose these infos? Every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, even though also established and traditional encyclopedias also have small entries, the greatness of Wikipedia is precisely having articles for little-known subjects. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
You did well to specify, because was not a parliamentary group (in this case it would have been encyclopedic) but a sub-group of the Mixed Group of the Chamber of Deputies. The page does not show any information of particular importance and the fall of the Berlusconi government was caused by many factors. The very little information contained on this page could easily be transferred to the page of the Italian Liberal Party, to which the sub-group was affiliated. But I honestly don't see any reason to keep a standalone page in this case.-- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 21:07, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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Ring of Fire (radio program)

Result was Snow Keep. The nominator has been blocked for socking per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SquareInARoundHole. TolWol56 ( talk) 01:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply


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Subject has limited references, and seems to be WP:PROMO. I believe this subject fails WP:NBASIC. Sebastien1118 ( talk) 20:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete – see also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DPLIVE202. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Prabhu Shri Ram 2

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Unreleased non-notable film. Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 20:07, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 20:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Outgrow.me

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Website is clearly inactive. Previous nomination in 2016 conducted when website was still active. Page is an orphan. Page also is lacking information and not contributing significantly. i would claim page no longer notable. Spiralwidget ( talk) 20:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Garber, Megan (2012-09-04). "The Afterlife of a Kickstarter Project". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "Here's one spot: Outgrow.me, a digital marketplace for projects that were successfully funded on both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo. The site sorts its contents by "Orderable" and "Pre-orderable," as well as by topic and price. And it's "fine proof," The Next Web puts it, "that the Kickstarter concept does work despite the (admittedly warranted) pessimistic coverage of crowdfunded failures." ... On the one hand, Outgrow.me is both simple and inevitable: It's a catalog fit for the Kickstarter era. It sells, like any standard catalog does, knickknacks of varying value and utility -- some junky, some fantastic, some junky and fantastic at the same time. What's interesting about it, though, is that Outgrow.me is as much about selling a production process as it is about selling products."

    2. MacManus, Christopher (2013-01-14). "Outgrow.me: Easily track success of crowdfunded projects". CNET. Archived from the original on 2020-11-24. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "The new Web site Outgrow.me features a visual directory of successful crowdfunded darlings, which you can browse according to availability -- such as projects available now or those still in preorder status. Any projects currently seeking money won't even show up on the site, meaning Outgrow acts as an easy way to wade through all of the noise and buy some potentially cutting-edge products ready for prime time."

    3. Falconer, Joel (2012-09-04). "Meet Outgrow.me, the marketplace that puts completed Kickstarter projects back in the spotlight". The Next Web. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "Outgrow.me is a marketplace for Kickstarter and IndieGoGo projects that were successfully funded and are now available for purchase. Here, you can go beyond thinking about how cool it would be if something did come to market and start benefiting from all that the best of crowdfunding entails. ... The site does allow listings for projects that are successfully funded but can only be pre-ordered. We don’t know whether Outgrow.me restricts these based on the project’s level of readiness for the market, which again raises concerns about the failure of funded Kickstarter projects, but these can be filtered out quite easily right at the top of the homepage."

    4. Epstein, Zach (2012-07-18). "Outgrow.me: All the best Kickstarter projects you can buy, in one place". Boy Genius Report. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "From an iPad stylus with pinpoint accuracy and sleek desktop jelly fish tanks to customizable 3-string guitars and zero-waste batteries, Outgrow.me makes it beyond easy to see — and spend money on — the best that Kickstarter and Indiegogo have to offer."

    5. F., G. (2013-03-30). "After the crowd leaves". The Economist. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "Sam Fellig has an answer in Outgrow.me. Mr Fellig started the e-commerce site last year as a programming project, while retraining to exit his old job working with homeowners who were trying to retain their houses in the event of foreclosure. He spotted a growing problem with crowdfunded products. ... More recent campaigns have learned from earlier ones' experience and are getting much better at meeting deadlines. Outgrow.me has every chance of living up to its name."

    6. Less significant coverage:
      1. Aamoth, Doug (2013-05-01). "50 Best Websites 2013. Outgrow.me". Time. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

        The article notes: "Outgrow.me solves that problem by featuring only Kickstarter and Indiegogo products that are either available for purchase or preorder. If it’s not on the site, it’s either not ready or it didn’t get enough funding."

      2. Dingman, Shane (2012-11-22). "Where to buy tech gifts that got Kickstarted". The Globe and Mail. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

        The article notes: "So, where's the best place to shop for those Kickstarters? Try outgrow.me. This marketplace website collects the successfully launched gear in an attractive and easy-to-navigate online store. But buyer beware, they also showcase some of those products that aren't quite out of the launch bay (such as the examples above, or the Oculus Rift 3D headset)."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Outgrow.me to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

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The result was redirect to Lega Toscana. I've gone for this instead of a merge because consensus appears that there is little that could be added aside from a sentence or two, which would be minor work. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Tuscan Federalist Alliance

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A totally unknown local party, that existed for a very short period of time. The page is written in five lines and only half of them concerns the party. Two sources are cited on the page, only one of them concerns the party and textually reads: "Riccardo Fragassi ... founded the Tuscan Federalist Alliance and then disappeared." It does not seem possible to find any other source except this one, which merely states that the party has existed and disappeared. Practically, this party is devoid of any kind of source and relevance. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. The Tuscan Federalist Alliance was one of the major splits occurred to Lega Toscana. Its founder and leader Riccardo Fragassi was previously a leading member of Lega Toscana. The party was active for several years and, while it did not achieve electoral success (at the time also Lega Toscana was not doing well, possibly also because of the split), it clearly deserves an article in Wikipedia or, at least, a redirect to "Lega Toscana". Every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, even though also established and traditional encyclopedias also have small entries, the greatness of Wikipedia is precisely having articles for little-known subjects. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    • The claim that "Tuscan Federalist Alliance was one of the major splits occurred to Lega Toscana" seems to me a WP:Original research, since it is not proven by any source (as no source deals with this party). A party without sources is not relevant, but it could be redirected to Lega Toscana with a brief mention in the article (and nothing more, since there is almost nothing to say about this party) as compromise. -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:42, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or merge into Lega Toscana. No academic publication, nor news articles, not even blogs nor random websites talk about this party. Except for the one book cited in the article, which only mentions the party in passing, as explained by the OP. This does not meet WP:GNG. Yakme ( talk) 15:43, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Further comment. I believe that the party, which was also represented in Tuscany's regional council, should be kept, but, in order not to lose the article's history, what about a merger through redirect with Lega Toscana? -- Checco ( talk) 13:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
It's fine for me to have a sentence about this party in Lega Toscana. Yakme ( talk) 13:58, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I see that the article Lega Toscana already covers the portions contained in this article, so I think that a merge is not necessary because it was already done...
I would like to point out two things:
1) As far as I can verify, "Tuscan Federalist Alliance" has never been a political party, but just a "gruppo consiliare", i.e. a parliamentary group in the Tuscan Regional Council. They are two different things. I can't verify that Alleanza Federale ever participated in a regional election in Tuscany.
2) The fact that a political party or parliamentary group is represented in a Parliament/Council is not per se a notability criteria. A standalone article needs to follow at least Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. I believe that this article (like many other articles concerning Italian minor parties I'm finding in Wikipedia) doesn't meet any of the criteria set in this policy. P1221 ( talk) 08:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I understand that it is now difficult to find sources on the web on an old minor political party, but the Tuscan Federalist Alliance was a party of its own right. Moreover, from the point of view of international political science there would be no specific difference between a political party and a parliamentary-only political party. I will try to find more sources. However, I hope that we can avoid a deletion anyway. In order to preserve the article's history, the article could easily become a redirect pointing to Lega Toscana. -- Checco ( talk) 07:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete – see also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DPLIVE202. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Motzoid India

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Contested Prod by single purpose editor. Nothing seems to be notable about this company fails WP:GNG and more so WP:NCORP McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 20:11, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 20:52, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Lena Jensen Rogn

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Low-level skiier that never placed on the podium or won a title, and maxed out at 23rd place, so we can't presume notability based on high achievement. No WP:GNG coverage located on a search. Long since retired so new coverage is unlikely to be generated. Only source currently is a database. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:27, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 20:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Atle Rognerud

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With WP:NFOOTY deprecated, notability is no longer presumed on a single professional appearance; WP:GNG must be met. No significant coverage located on a search. Even presuming the Norwegian News Agency source is SIGCOV (I haven't been able to find access to it to verify), a single source is insufficient to keep the article. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:26, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 20:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Emil Nyeng

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Low-level skiier that never placed on the podium or won a title, and maxed out at 19th place, so we can't presume notability based on high achievement. No WP:GNG coverage located on a search. Only source currently is a database. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:21, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Kristiane Wyllie

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Fails WP:GNG. All sources are trivial. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 19:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Steuart Pittman, Jr.

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WP:BLP of a county executive, not properly referenced as passing WP:NPOL #2. As always, the county level of office is not an automatic notability freebie that guarantees inclusion in Wikipedia -- it's one where the sourcing and substance need to establish that he has a credible claim to being a special case of significantly greater notability than the norm for county executives. But that's not what's on offer here: this is essentially a résumé, referenced almost entirely to a mixture of primary sources (raw tables of election results, the self-published websites of organizations that he's directly affiliated with, etc.) that aren't support for notability at all and run of the mill coverage in community hyperlocals, with only one hit from a major WP:GNG-worthy daily newspaper (which isn't enough all by itself.)
In addition, there's also a possibility of WP:COI editing here, as there were at least two prior attempts to create an article about him at the title Steuart Pittman, which consisted of a county employee trying to create the article by copy-pasting Pittman's own self-penned biography directly from the county website in defiance of our copyvio rules, and then trying to bypass the WP:AFC process by moving it into mainspace themselves without the AFC review that was especially mandatory because of the COI.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have more than just the routinely expected level of local media coverage that every county executive in every county always has. Bearcat ( talk) 17:22, 28 May 2022 (UTC) reply

There's no "big jurisdiction" exemption in WP:NPOL #2 — no matter how big a county is or isn't, the county executive's eligibility for a Wikipedia article remains undetachable from whether or not he can be shown to pass WP:GNG on his sourceability. Bearcat ( talk) 15:48, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 07:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Simiso Buthelezi

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Non-notable boxer who died following a fight for a non-notable regional championship. He's only mentioned in reference to his death and almost certainly will not receive coverage for anything else. – 2. O. Boxing 20:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep to remind people the dangers of boxing and out of respect for his life. There are way more articles to go after than this one.-- 2601:3C5:8200:97E0:8DDB:A685:D3EA:FA55 ( talk) 20:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

They're not valid reasons to keep an article. See WP:NOTADVOCACY and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. – 2. O. Boxing 22:15, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep. I approved the WP:AFCH submission based on the widespread international coverage that the subject received. A quick search reveals many more sources that are not used in the article, such as CNN in the USA, News24 in South Africa, TribuneIndia. I agree that the subject's career as a boxer is not notable, however, the guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (people) state "If, however, there is only enough information about one notable event related to the person, then the article should be titled specifically about that event, such as Steve Bartman incident". I would be OK with a rename (although I think it would be overly pedantic) but not a delete. Greenman ( talk) 17:22, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Greenman: WP:BLP1E would be the relevant policy here. The subject fails the three conditions for articles to generally avoid; he is covered only in relation to his death; this person will almost certainly remain a low-profile individual; the event wasn't significant. Unfortunately, deaths in boxing are quite common and all receive substantial short-term coverage. This one has received a bit more attention than most, but that is undoubtedly due to the video clip of the fight. – 2. O. Boxing 18:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
The second condition also states "In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article." Greenman ( talk) 22:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
There is no event article, and it's unlikely there ever will be per WP:EVENT. – 2. O. Boxing 23:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Seems like recentism, I agree with squared circle that the subject is receiving short term coverage because of the video clip, it is quite jarring to see in hindsight, but a WP:CRYSTALBALL would be required to prove his death will have more impact then the other deaths that occur from in ring competition. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 20:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Certainly his death was tragic, but that doesn't make him WP notable. This is not the first, or likely last, boxing death and they all generate short term news and usually calls for banning boxing--but then the furor subsides and fades away (at least for the general public). WP:BIO1E, WP:NOTMEMORIAL, and WP:NOTADVOCACY all apply. He's not notable for anything else and the event was minor (on an encyclopedic level). If something significant comes from his death, the article can be recreated. Papaursa ( talk) 23:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Modussiccandi ( talk) 07:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Citizens' Political Movement

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A totally unknown political party, it has never participated in elections and is not mentioned in any relevant source. In practice, this party has limited itself to existing and nothing more. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. The subject is clearly encyclopedic and deserves a to be part of Wikipedia. The Citizens' Political Movement, through its founder and leader Fernando Rossi, was represented in the Italian Senate from 2007 to 2008 and was at times crucial for the survival of Romano Prodi's second government (2006–2008). In the 2008 general election, in alliance with other minor parties, it obtained 0.3% countrywide, despite being present only in a few constituencies. To be clear, that it is more than what several American third parties with articles in Wikipedia have gathered throughout their life. Every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, even though also established and traditional encyclopedias have also small entries, the greatness of Wikipedia is precisely having articles for little-known subjects. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
First of all, 0.3% of the vote in the 2008 general election (a poor result in itself) was obtained from a list that was supported also by this party, not by the party itself, so this is surely not a valid motivation for keeping the page. Regarding his representation in the Senate, there are no particular constraints in the regulation of that assembly to declare membership of a party in the mixed group: Fernando Rossi, after leaving the Party of Italian Communists, had limited himself to declaring his belonging to this new party. Therefore, any votes of confidence in the Prodi government must primarily be attributed to him and not to the party. Since it is a substantially personal party that has never participated in elections, it could be directly merged with the article on Fernando Rossi. -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 22:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Definitely does not meet notability criteria, since it has no "significant coverage" in RS. From a google books search, it appears in a handful of publications, but always in passing and never analyzed in detail. Therefore it can become a sentence in the page of its founder Fernando Rossi. Yakme ( talk) 15:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. A very obscure and unknown party. The 0.3% share of votes obtained in 2008 was thanks to a much broader coalition and it didn't result in anyone elected. It totally lacks notability. P1221 ( talk) 10:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The Citizens' Political Movement has never participated in a general election. This party is not a relevant topic for the Party of Italian Communists, nor for the Federation of Liberal Democrats (also proposed for deletion). I think the only page it could be merged to is Fernando Rossi's one (as an alternative to deletion).-- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
If it has to be a merger (not my choice!), we could indeed merge this article and Federation of Liberal Democrats into For the Common Good, the joint list including also the two parties now proposed for deletion which participated in the 2008 Italian general election. -- Checco ( talk) 07:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. This title will also be salted. RL0919 ( talk) 19:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Greg maluma

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See history of Greg Maluma and Gregson Maluma, both of which are now salted. All of the 'references' are self-published material. WP:BEFORE yields nothing. If this is somehow kept, it should be moved to Greg Maluma, which would need the protection removed. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:20, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 19:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

HD 220766

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Wow, don't think I've ever seen a star with so little coverage, even in large database listings, so it fails WP:NASTRO. It is brighter than magnitude 6.5, which was a sort of get out of jail free card in the past, not so much now. Despite that, not listed in the Bright Star Catalogue so far as I can tell. Has a faint companion, same distance, don't know if they're gravitationally bound, doesn't look like anyone has ever published on it. I could probably find out some basic physical data from catalogues, but it is hard to imagine writing much about this star. Lithopsian ( talk) 17:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

This star has an entry in List of stars in Aquarius, although it is not wikilinked and it is listed as "236 G. Aqr". Lithopsian ( talk) 20:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Kaushalya Devi - The Mandana Artist

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No sources and no notability. There is a draft also. Laptopinmyhands ( talk) 17:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy deleted per WP:G4. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 23:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Miss Intercontinental 2018

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Miss Intercontinental 2018

Beauty pageant that has already been found non-notable once. Does not even have any references, and so fails verifiability as well as notability.

Consider use of sodium chloride. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

I have nominated for G4. If that fails, I !v for Delete Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos 18:09, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 17:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Mildred C. Crump

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City councilwoman, fails WP:POLITICIAN. Previously deleted. Fails WP:BIO scope_creep Talk 16:52, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep. Seems to be plenty coverage, some examples:

  1. https://newjerseyglobe.com/local/mildred-crump-resigns-newark-council-seat/
  2. https://www.nj.com/essex/2022/02/newarks-1st-black-councilwoman-celebrated-as-a-trailblazer-who-led-from-a-place-in-her-heart.html
  3. https://patch.com/new-jersey/newarknj/trailblazing-newark-councilwoman-mildred-crump-resigns-report (previous discussion reached no apparent consensus on the reliability of Patch.com

Some less significant coverage, but worth noting:

  1. She is quoted here, so I wouldn't use the quote, but the fact that they went to her for this statement suggests notability to me: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/nyregion/newark-riots-50-years.html
  2. Brief mention here https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/23/procedural-justice-transform-us-criminal-courts
  3. https://www.insidernj.com/crump-2022-refocusing-place-strength/
  4. 9 mentions in Gillespie, A. (2013). The New Black Politician: Cory Booker, Newark, and Post-Racial America. United States: NYU Press. CT55555 ( talk) 20:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
That is a good reference. Perhaps you can put it in the article and any others you find. scope_creep Talk 05:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I'd love to, but I'm spending way too much of my WP time doing BEFORE for other people, which leaves very little time for editing. Maybe you could find some time to fix it. :) Jacona ( talk) 17:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Juan Adams

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Fails WP:NMMA notability criteria. His highest quarterly ranking by FightMatrix was one hundred thirty fourth, far short of the top 10 requirement. Also never appeared in Sherdog's rankings. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 16:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep Passes WP:GNG. Are we really gonna start deleting every fighter who hasn't appeared in the top 10? That's gonna be like 99% of the pages. Removing the participation criteria basically neuters any combat sport notability since combat sports have way less major titles, there isn't a draft, there isn't constant tournanments that it seems all the other sports criteria rely on. Isn't a huge amount of the sports pages on wikipedia coming from basketball, football, and soccer where guys in literally 2nd national leagues would get pages? HeinzMaster ( talk) 00:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I'm not happy about it either to be honest, but I'm trying to target pages that are relatively unnotable. Like Adams for example is 1-3 in the UFC, probably best known for losing to Greg Hardy, and has never been highly ranked. If you could provide some sources with significant or indepth coverage about him to pass GNG, I'd be happy to withdraw the nomination. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 07:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Keep Passes WP:GNG plus the background section and infobox data are extensive. I've been scared about the recent progression of these deletion policies and if it goes to this, I will be completely retiring from Wikipedia editing. It's just senseless. Ticelon ( talk) 09:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 19:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NMMA notability criteria. His highest quarterly ranking by FightMatrix was two hundred sixth, far short of the top 10 requirement. He also hasn't appeared in Sherdog's rankings. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 16:37, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was Keep one, redirect rest. Redirecting all to century-based lists, except Solar eclipse of October 19, 1865. RL0919 ( talk) 21:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Solar eclipse of March 14, 1801

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Wikipedia is not an astronomical database or a catalogue. All of these partial solar eclipses merely happen to have occurred, but it is unlikely they are anything but WP:ROTM; and given how all of these occurred over mostly entirely unpopulated places, back in a time when this kind of data probably wasn't readily available (and who in his sane mind in the 19th century would have gone to Antarctica to observe a partial eclipse when such solar eclipses rather often, all across the globe?) it's unlikely any WP:SIGCOV, contemporary or otherwise, exists for any of these. As such delete for failing WP:NOT; or redirect to the appropriate list (but I'm not even sure whether those lists are appropriate, to begin with). RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 16:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 17:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

2021 Talaud Islands earthquake

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Very little impact to be suitable for an article. Well below WP:MINIMUM. Dora the Axe-plorer ( explore) 15:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Francesco Morosini Naval Military School

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Fails WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE in both English and Italian (old name and new name) is not convincing about notability. A merge with Italian training ship Amerigo Vespucci might be an alternative for deletion. The Banner  talk 15:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Thanks. I would comment that you could have also improved the article instead of just trying to delete it, as those search terms bring up quite a few results. I have added a notables section, and put in a bunch of references, sorry they're bare-url as I hate to spend much time improving an article another editor wants to eliminate. I also used the former name "Collegio Navale della Gioventù Italiana del Littorio", for which I found many Italian sources, that I haven't tried to add to the article as yet. There are around a dozen sources now in the article. There is also an 11-part video series about life in the school, directed by an Italian who has an article on the Italian Wikipedia. I don't speak Italian. Jacona ( talk) 14:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • @ The Banner An important aid in searching is to not keep the quotes. The school is often referred to without "Francesco" and with the words in a different order. Perhaps you could revisit your before and see if you can find additional sources. Jacona ( talk) 14:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 17:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Lists of accolades by film

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Just a bullet point list, redundant in addition to Category:Lists of accolades by film (169) Indagate ( talk) 15:36, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Marraban Bin yauri

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This article appears to be about a village, but is incomprehensible. It doesn't even say that the village is in Nigeria, which must be inferred. It does not establish geographic notability. It was moved to draft space once, and moved back to article space. If the village is a named inhabited place or otherwise notable, this article should be blown up and started over because the quality of the English is bad. Robert McClenon ( talk) 14:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

KylieTastic i understood that wikepidia has policies and why some articles has not source and then published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samum2 ( talk • contribs) 20:23, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 17:08, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of DC Comics major characters

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Title is inherently subjective/POV, and thus fails WP:LISTCRIT. Who decides what is a "major" character? Are there really 45 major subsets of DC characters? Scope of a DC character list is already covered by the various lists at Lists of DC Comics characters, so there's not much point trying to rework this. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 14:31, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

The Private War of Doctor Doom

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Fails WP:NOTPLOT as just plot and cast list. Fails WP:GNG as no significant coverage. Unnecessary extension of its episode list entry, plot could be condensed to max. 200 words per MOS:TVPLOT and moved across. Indagate ( talk) 14:25, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 17:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Historical roots of discrimination against non-Arab Muslims, especially Iranians in the early days of Islam

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This article, like the Shia jurisprudence and development, which has an XFD already, also reads like an essay, so doing the same for this one. Alpha Piscis Austrini ( talk) 14:16, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

2022 St Albans City and District Council election

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Reviewed during new page patrol. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. "Stats only" article about a local election. No secondary sources. North8000 ( talk) 14:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Port Moresby International School

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Fails WP:GNG. WP:BEFORE does not bring up sufficient reliable, independent, in-depth sources. The Banner  talk 12:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep: It meets the criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia, including WP:GNG.

  • From WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#N ... In practice, articles on high/secondary schools and school districts are usually kept, as they are almost always found to be notable, unless their existence cannot be verified in order to stop hoaxes ... The subject of this article is one of a handful of international-standard senior secondary schools in PNG (where the literacy rate is below 62% for 9 million people), and attended by some notable people/families in the country. [7]
  • But regardless of the above, there are hundreds of independent secondary sources spanning 60 years easily found. WP:GNG is not an issue.
  • This includes WP:SIGCOV in the country's major national newspaper about an affirmitive action case on fees at the school that was taken to the Supreme Court of Papua New Guinea in 1976. [8] [9] [10] [11]
  • Another 5 minute search yields another 10 various sources: [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] and I can't be bothered pasting further.
  • While I won't be updating the article page myself any time soon, it is suitable for a stand-alone article.

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

One Thing Remains

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Aside from already-present AllMusic review, found no reliable coverage. Album/singles did chart but if that's all the subject has I don't think that's enough for me. QuietHere ( talk) 03:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. WP:NOQUORUM applies. ✗ plicit 12:45, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Living in the Age of Airplanes (soundtrack)

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Approved by AFC reviewer, but is a mere copy of the original article, Living in the Age of Airplanes. This page seems to only serve as a new home for the templates, but the texts remain untouched in the original article. Don't see a purpose for this; perhaps a redirect can be made directing to the original article's music section, and the AllMusic exlink can be moved to the original's exlink section too. Gerald WL 09:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep overlapping coverage in the main article has now been removed and this article is now linked so it is now a valid split with a pass of WP:GNG due to reliable sources coverage as shown in the article in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:51, 4 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Industry Federation of the State of Rio de Janeiro

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advertising The Banner  talk 08:52, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep – The article does not have a promotional tone, and simply delineates the history of the organization, such as various name changes, and what it does in contemporary times, all in a neutral manner. The article does not extoll the organization in a promotional manner, does not attempt to recruit others to join the organization, and does not contain promotional buzzwords and peacock terms. Also not particularly impressed with the one-word rationale for deletion here, because it provides no qualification at all (e.g. WP:VAGUEWAVE). North America 1000 03:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. This nomination brings no question about the notability of the subject, just claims it is advertising. I agree with North America's assessment. This article is not advertising. It discusses the subject with a neutral tone and provides several sources for verification. Jacona ( talk) 09:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. This closure is affected by the lack of a thoughtful and carefully composed deleiton rationale. Offering one word reasons for deletion is really not doing your due diligence as a nominator. Liz Read! Talk! 03:33, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Industry Social Service of the State of Rio de Janeiro

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  • Keep and copy edit – The article does not have a promotional tone, and simply delineates the history of the organization, and what it does in contemporary times, all in a neutral manner. The article does not extoll the institution in a particularly promotional manner, does not attempt to recruit others to join the organization, and does not contain promotional buzzwords and peacock terms. Also not particularly impressed with the one-word rationale for deletion here, because it provides no qualification at all (e.g. WP:VAGUEWAVE). That all said, the article does read in a couple of areas a bit like a press release, which can be addressed by copy editing it, because the majority of the article does not read as similar to a press release. North America 1000 03:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Nova Southeastern University. Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Pallavi Patel College of Health Care Sciences

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Non-notable college, one of 15 within Nova Southeastern University, that does not warrant a stand-alone article. Otr500 ( talk) 03:54, 28 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. No one came up with any indication of notability, by any criteria, although the delete arguments were disputed on technical grounds. So I guess this is, ahem, weak deleted. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:50, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Akhada (TV series)

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Non notable film by a non notable director. It fails WP:NFILM that requires a film to be "widely distributed and has received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics." Umakant Bhalerao ( talk) 08:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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its a tv series not a film Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 03:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Doni Burdick

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Almost no sources except one to Facebook which doesn’t even point to this person’s Facebook page. Minor career with zero impact on any charts. Fails WP:SINGER. Egghead06 ( talk) 11:37, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep, Doni Burdick did manage to release one single which has been widely anthologized on compilation albums, and which continues to attract some public attention. In my opinion, he warrants a brief article even if little is known about him. Timothy Horrigan ( talk) 20:14, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Trinity (story arc). This is the apparent consensus even though the redirect target has also been nominated for deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:30, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Triarch

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Minor group of fictional characters that fail the WP:GNG. From what I can tell, this group only appeared in a single storyline consisting of a handful of issues, and were never used again. There is pretty much no coverage of this group in reliable sources, due to this complete lack of notability. The official DC Encyclopedia does not even dedicate an entry to this minor group. The article was WP:PRODed a couple years ago, but the PROD was removed without explanation, and this article has been sitting here unsourced since. Rorshacma ( talk) 16:17, 4 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to List of solar eclipses in the 19th century. There clearly is no consensus to keep this as an stand-alone article (despite the sole WP:BUTITEXISTS !vote); and I don't see why this was relisted, other than maybe some WP:RELISTBIAS. (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:51, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Solar eclipse of October 19, 1808

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Failed GNG: The eclipse only occurred in the sea near Antarctica, and it is unlikely that anyone saw the eclipse at that time. Likewise, history does not record this eclipse, and this eclipse has no scientific value. Therefore, this eclipse is not of notability, and therefore the references in the entry do not prove notability, i.e., they do not constitute a valid introduction. Q28 ( talk) 09:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Delete. It's worthwhile including it in the List of solar eclipses in the 19th century (as it is), but there is no point in giving it an article of its own. Athel cb ( talk) 12:23, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Lawyer joke. Closing slightly early, per WP:SNOW. North America 1000 09:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Dewey, Cheatem & Howe

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This page is literally just a list of occasions when a particular pun was used. The fact that a pun has been used on TV doesn't make the pun notable ( WP:ITEXISTS). Amisom ( talk) 09:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 17:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Delores Wells

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Biography for a non-notable playmate (possibly, redirect it to some playboy models list) damiens.rf 06:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

2022 Florida Atlantic Owls men's soccer team

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Article fails WP:GNG due to a lack of significant coverage. There is an extensive consensus that college soccer seasons do not have a presumption of notability under WP:NSEASONS unless the team has qualified for the NCAA Tournament, and this is an article for a season that hasn't even started yet, so it would be WP:TOOSOON. Recent consensus on this matter was reached here. Jay eyem ( talk) 05:42, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. North America 1000 08:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Ilana Belmaker

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dubious notability, virtually no hits on Google Scholar, created by an SPA with an interest in promoting this individual FASTILY 05:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete This article is not clearly notable in my opinion, and I think that the argument that scientific merit is limited is also valid as stated; there are many other candidates for similar articles who could be considered more notable. In addition, looking into the article history the article is clearly closely associated with the subject, and was created by User:אור פ, who later also removed a tag from the article "Ilana Belmaker" stating that the article is too closely associated with the subject at 16:01, 10 August 2021, which I think is clear evidence that this user is, indeed, clearly associated with the subject. Nothing on the talk page. the user does appear to have a history of conflicts of interest and articles which do not fulfill Wikipedia's standards. User talk:אור פ There are very few citations for most of the content, and the citations that do exist are entirely her published papers with no news articles or significant coverage from external sources to the journal. If this individual is notable, there are likely many thousands of people with similar levels of published work who would also be considered as such. Spiralwidget ( talk) 10:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Leaning delete, seems to be a published author, unsure how notable these publications are. Not sure what her notability factor is. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. The subject has one fairly highly cited paper under the name Elaine Belmaker, and there might also be other material available under this or other names. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 21:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. 45 hits in Google Scholar, 39 hits in PubMed, article in The Lancet. this is not notable. I'm not a single-purpose account, I write articles about Israeli people, and because of The unpleasant attitude I received, I prefer to invest my time in Hebrew Wikipedia. I don't know Ilana Belmaker, I'm not associated with the subject. there are likely many thousands of people with similar levels of published work who would also be considered notable - Please write an article about them. if she is not notable, I don't know who is, I get the feeling that you have something personal against articles about Israelis in the English Wikipedia. it seems racism, our even worst. אור פ ( talk) 15:31, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    No, most of the ones that come up in AFD have been of questionable notability. Not just anyone gets an article here, we don't really care what social/economic/ethnic background they have, they must pass the notability bar here. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Please see here [22] about a British Jew that was kept. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    It is unusual for anyone to pass WP:PROF, our notability guideline for academics, when they are an associate, rather than a full, professor, so holding the subject to similar standards is far from racism. It is also unusual for such people in English-speaking countries to take the title "Prof.". Is that different in Israel? Rather than accuse people of racism it would be best for you to concentrate on the requirements of WP:PROF, where the most common reason for passing depends on the number of citations from others to articles, rather than the number of articles published which is what your previous post concentrated on. Phil Bridger ( talk) 14:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete All (or most) sources used in the article are papers she authored, so are not reliable. All I see (using the various Google services above)are papers she's published, but nothing about her as a person. I'm unable to access either Scopus or Web of Science to judge her citation factor. Nothing in GNews, the NYT or JStor, I would have liked to have seen one mass media piece about her or at least interviews. It seems that at best she's been a mid-level government functionary and a university professor. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:51, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. her is some mass media piece about her or at least interviews: [23] [24] [25], and here is another article [26] אור פ ( talk) 10:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment.not a single articles is about her, there are newspapers articles about incidents in Israel's medicine, she is interviewed in small part of the articles along with other interviewers and the authors descriptions of the incidents, she isn't in the center of the intreviews. As for the last item, its an articles she co-authored in the journal הרפואה (the medicine) - a very low quality journal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.102.204.53 ( talk) 11:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Does not have enough independent coverage and does not pass WP:PROF. —  Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 15:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Four Rivers Conference (Missouri)

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Sources are routine local coverage. Does not meet GNG. MB 01:58, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Ho Chi Minh City Television. ✗ plicit 12:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

HTV9

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Redirect repeatedly contested without sources. Article in its current state does not pass WP:GNG. Jalen Folf (talk) 04:41, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • We've been getting a lot of bad Vietnam TV pages lately, but there's little I can do about them. The vnwiki article is similarly list-formatted. I do note that, if the sources can be found (and I suspect that nearly all of them are in Vietnamese), this would be a GNG-clobberer based on the information that needs to be referenced. Keep if the sources can be found. Sammi Brie (she/her •  t • c) 06:14, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Article quality isn't great, but that's not our job. It's a thing, it's part of a national broadcast network. WP:BROADCASTOUTCOMES: "Most national and regional pay television (cable, satellite, linear streaming) services are likely to be notable." Sourcing, Vietnamese not being my long suit, is admittedly problematic but it's likely we're past WP>GNG... Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 11:10, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 06:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Commune (model of government)

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Discussion continued on the talk page following the last AfD and ended with agreement to return to AfD for deletion, seeing as there is no common literature on a commune "model of government" or even relating the various insurrections/revolutionary governments colloquially known as "communes". There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Pinging prior participants @ Otr500, Goldsztajn, Spinningspark, 力, and AusLondonder. czar 04:35, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The scope of this article is too broad (no clear direction) for a reader to learn exactly what is attempted to be portrayed. "Commune", as a political entity could be a Participatory democracy, a revolutionary government (Paris Commune), a self-governing province (Jeju Province), city-state (Principality of Monaco) or other "political organization" (from the article) such as a state, that includes "...theories about a certain range of political phenomena." This article (last sentence in the opening paragraph) states: At its core, a commune is just an organization which creates social conditions that prioritize the primacy of the collective over the individual. --- and there you have it. A commune as a model of government is a type of Intentional community. This article branches into Marxist ideologies, the same as State (polity), and delves into to mini-communes (Intentional community that could include squatters) and even workers-organizations. It looks like synthesis with some original research thrown in. Political philosophy articles need to be reliably sourced at every instance so we don't end up with unsourced editors comments exampled by everything after the source: "This hypothetical is an example...". I do not see how chopping the article back to a stub can produce anything of encyclopedic value that is not covered somewhere else. -- Otr500 ( talk) 13:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 04:15, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of Bengali songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal

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All of these lists are WP:INDISCRIMINATE listings of apparently all individual songs recorded (not "written" or "first recorded" by) by this artist. Most are not backed up by a single source (thus failing WP:V); and are otherwise probably information which is of interest only to very dedicated fans of the subject. Wikipedia is not a fansite, an itunes directory, or, effectively, a database (which is what these lists are). RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 02:42, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Music, Lists, and West Bengal. –– FormalDude talk 04:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Hemantha ( talk) 06:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Most of the entries are verifiable via the linked film articles, but I agree with the rest of the nomination. While I haven't checked, some sources might be available which explore her combined body of work and thus justify perhaps one list article. I do not see any basis for one article per language though. Hemantha ( talk) 06:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Ultimately, I appreciate the work that @ Bubaikumar has done here. However, I agree with the nominator that they do not meet Wikipedia's minimum requirements for verification. –– FormalDude talk 06:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep verification might be an issue, but then it's why this article could be improved rather than deleted. The page is not an indiscriminate listing, as suggested by the nominator, nor is it a directory (as defined on WP:NOT for both), and I can't see how a list of songs recorded by a specific artist could ever be dismissed as a fansite. We have numerous lists of songs recorded by artists or filmographies, and never would I imagine such an argument for their deletion. Sources must be added, but WP:CONRED clearly suggests that this should not be a reasoning if improvement can be offered. That's what Wikipedia is all about. Shahid • Talk2me 10:25, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    The page is not an indiscriminate listing, as suggested by the nominator, nor is it a directory (as defined on WP:NOT for both), and I can't see how a list of songs recorded by a specific artist could ever be dismissed as a fansite. That is again (now for the fourth time) an unargued, plain proof by assertion. These pages are both WP:INDISCRIMINATE (due to sheer size; but also due to being "Summary-only descriptions of works.") and WP:NOTDIRECTORY (due to being, clearly, "Simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit.") Refusing to acknowledge the reality of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and persisting with a personal, unsubstantiated opinion, will only make reality hit harder. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 13:26, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: It must be proof by assertion on your part, my friend. Going by your interpretation (or misinterpretation) of WP:INDISCRIMINATE and specifically "Summary-only descriptions of works", no article which lists songs or films by an artist merits a WP article. And to top it all off, if artists are particularly prolific, their work is even less suitable for a WP list. The same goes for WP:NOTDIRECTORY - I completely disagree with your description of this page as a "simple listing without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit". Other than citing the same irrelevant policy without being able to explain its association to the proposed page, wikilawyering about it, and addressing everyone who votes against your nomination time and again (on this and others), you haven't proved anything and I find your rationale quite feeble. Let me then recommend again that you let people cast their votes without being forced into an empty argument with you, and the AfD run its course. Thank you, Shahid • Talk2me 13:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    If you come here and directly call my arguments unfounded; then don't complain that I'm "bludgeoning" when I directly address you (since you directly addressed my arguments) and show how wrong you are. You refusing to accept the validity of WP:NOT is now becoming something of a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. The only other part of your comment which warrants a reply is the OTHERSHITEXISTS argument, and that just to point out that this, except in the cases when it is a false equivalence, is indeed a good reason to delete the other stuff, too. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 13:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: No no, I do not refuse to accept the validity of WP:NOT - I refuse to accept your interpretation of it, which is simplistic and unwarranted (please take no offence for I intend none, it's not personal). I can't see how WP:OTHERSTUFF is relevant here now - I didn't mention a particular article but just said that your rationale suggests that "no article which lists songs or films by an artist merits a WP article". Which is exactly what your flawed interpretation of policy contributes. Your point about "come here and directly..." - I'm afraid you completely misunderstand the process of AfD - people cast their votes based on their view, and it goes without saying that, if they think an article should be kept, they are obviously going to cast doubt on your arguments. The problem is that you seem to not accept that people might disagree with you and find your "arguments unfounded", and this is pretty evident in your bludgeoning here and elsewhere. This doesn't help the process, so let's at least agree to disagree. Shahid • Talk2me 14:20, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Disagreeing with interpretations of policy is fine. Repeatedly calling my interpretation "flawed", without offering any reason why it is flawed and instead simply dismissing it in a true ad lapidem style, is where I draw the line. Are these pages "simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit"? Considering that the only contextual information provided is, at best, the subject's biography (often copied exactly between the different pages), which is not contextual information about the list topic, there's not much room for anything but a "yes". Are these "summary-only descriptions of works"? yes. There's not much, if any, interpretation required here. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 14:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: Well, calling your interpretation flawed and disagreeing with is practically the same thing, I believe. And clearly, I did explain why, it's just that my reasoning does not satisfy you, I guess. That all these songs are performed by the same singer is not basic shared contextual information, but even if it was, that wouldn't be enough to dismiss it because it's not a simple listing and neither does it lack encyclopedic merit, as the quote says. You highlight one part of the quote. Your example of "List of airplanes" (which you compared to a list of this sort on another AfD) shows that your position dismisses every page which lists songs or films by an artist on WP and considers only part of the policy. Then you will bring sourcing, which is another issue and not at all a reason to delete a page per WP:CONRED. Then you will mention its excessive length with a claim that I find weird at best, as if to suggest that Shreya Ghoshal should be blamed for being more prolific than, say, the Beatles, whose list of songs is not at all a directory, according to you, for reasons you can't explain. Also weird though is your original point that the existence of such a page as the one proposed here for deletion is more suitable for a fansite. Well, we're not going to see eye to eye on this issue, I guess. Shahid • Talk2me 14:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    So, in short, your "reasoning" as to how this does not fail WP:NOT is (quoted from your comments above):
    1. This page is not an indiscriminate listing nor is it a directory (no further reasons provided why it is so, see [27])
    2. I completely disagree with your description of this page ( [28])
    3. your interpretation of it, which is simplistic and unwarranted ( [29])
    4. it's not a simple listing and neither does it lack encyclopedic merit ( [30])
    Reasoning being the drawing of inferences or conclusions through the use of reason; the above is definitively not "reasoning", since it shows no supporting evidence, no logically sound argument, lacks any attempt to engage with counter-arguments, and is pretty much an "I'm right you're wrong" monologue coupled with a blatant disregard for the facts (if List of Hindi songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal is not a "summary-only descriptions of works", then nothing is). As such I'll stop wasting time with people who flat-out refuse to argue about it, and let a reasonable closer come to their conclusion about how much weight these non-arguments should be given.
    Your example of "List of airplanes" (which you compared to a list of this sort on another AfD) shows that your position dismisses every page which lists songs or films by an artist on WP and considers only part of the policy. Still persisting with the false equivalence? Again, the Beatles list contains a total of 300 entries, all solidly backed up by reliable sources. List of Bengali songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal - on its own, ignoring all of the other similar lists nominated here, has 375; List of Hindi songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal has over a 1000; ... These lists are simply not comparable in any way due to sheer differences in scale; and the additional problems posed by WP:V issues mean they are really fatally flawed. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 18:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: Getting an accusation of false equivalence from someone who compares pages of singers' songs to a theoretical "List of airplanes" is becoming amusing. Even more so though is you cherrypicking phrases from my explanations while all you did in your "reasoning" is quoting irrelevant lines from WP:NOT and giving the same simplistic rationale that this page (and others) is too long (as if Indian singers are to be judged for being too prolific). Please, I don't get what we're doing here; what I see here is a clear case of desperate WP:BLUDGEONING and intolerance to others' contrasting opinions (further evidence of this can be found in your replies to those who vote here after me). This isn't what I would like to waste time on and keep arguing with. My vote is keep and my opinion of this nomination has been made clear already. We're done here. Shahid • Talk2me 08:37, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Your position here is riddled with oblivious hypocrisy. –– FormalDude talk 09:33, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ FormalDude: A) I wonder what makes you want to address me for the first time with this rude, unconstructive and baseless comment. B) Your opinions (or lame way of expressing them) do not interest me. C) Discuss content and not me. D) Actually no, I'm not sure I want to discuss anything with users like you. Shahid • Talk2me 10:22, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: This is a list of original songs "first recorded" by the artist. Can't see how it is any more WP:INDISCRIMINATE than other lists of works (such as filmographies and discographies). -- Ab207 ( talk) 17:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Can't see how a list with over a thousand unsourced entries is INDISCRIMINATE? Too bad. If there are other similarly large and excessive, unsourced lists of works, they should also be deleted. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 18:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Acceptable article subject by a notable Indian singer, it just needs sourcing. This seems more like a case of WP:I DON'TLIKEIT. We don't discriminate against artists because they are prolific. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    What an utter textbook strawman which looks like WP:ITSIMPORTANT ("Acceptable article subject by a notable Indian singer"). We do discriminate against articles which fail WP:V and WP:NOT; and the second condition can't really be fixed with "just needs sourcing" RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 21:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    You admit the article needs additional sourcing, therefore implying that is not suitable for mainspace, yet you've voted keep. Make it make sense. –– FormalDude talk 09:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Discussion seems to be split across another similar, mostly-identical AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs recorded by Lata Mangeshkar — DaxServer ( t · m · c) 12:22, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Discographies of singers, when verified and discussed in reliable sources, are of encyclopedic interest and thus wouldn't fall under WP:INDISCRIMINATE. It is telling that we have an entire WikiProject dedicated to this purpose. The article in its current state does not include sources for most of its entries, but that does not mean that they don't exist.

but our article lists unsourced entries for all these songs. I cannot personally verify each of the hundreds of entries in the article within the course of this deletion discussion for obvious reasons, but it seems to me that there isn't a problem with sources not existing, and I disagree with the interpretation that this information does not have a place on Wikipedia when sources exist. The problem, then, ultimately lies in this article not carrying these sources. As this essay eloquently puts it, an article which may currently... lack sufficient sources... can be improved and rewritten to fix its current flaws. The remedy for such an article is cleanup, not deletion. Best, DeluxeVegan ( talk) 16:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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How will sourcing it not fix it? Isn’t that what the issue is here: failing of WP:V? Also, WP:NOT is a very vague way of disregarding an article. OSE definitely applies if thousands of other similar articles exist, including even featured lists. If this is sourced entirely, it will be no different from those lists. If we’re to delete it based on any other reason than WP:V then all the other similar articles also need to go. FrB.TG ( talk) 22:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
thousands of other similar articles How many of these literally include thousands of entries? How many of these lack so many sources it is probably more worthwhile to WP:TNT and start from scratch? How many lack any pertinent context and sources showing such except for basically a copy of the lead of the parent article? Simply saying "other similar stuff exists" is not convincing usually, even less so when the "similar" stuff is not actually similar to begin with... RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 03:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
So your approach to this is "let’s delete it because it’s too long"? That is absurd. Deletion is not clean-up. There are ways to cut it down (maybe only include the most notable songs?) but deleting the lists, one of which gets 250k views a year, is not the answer. If it fails WP:V, we can start by sourcing it. Nothing is beyond fix here. FrB.TG ( talk) 04:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 06:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Seminole Warriors Boxing

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While there exists sources ( [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39]), I wouldn't consider the sum indicative of notability. SWinxy ( talk) 04:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Christian Ferri

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Almost entirely self-promotional, peacocking bio of a WP:GNG non-notable individual. Lots of sources, but none WP:RS except three, none of which however is WP:DEPTH/ WP:SIGCOV. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 02:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

An idea and a smile

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WP:GNG. It's hard to see what this is even about, never mind if it should have an article. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 01:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Applying the duck test, this looks and quacks very much like OR, since the single cited source is apparently the book itself, if Google translate is accurate, and the overall writing level is very much not the standard academic English style one would expect if this were based on existing sources. The level of detail is obviously excessive (this looks more like a book summary for, I don't know, a high school class, than an encyclopedia article). The writer does not appear to be notable either, so the claims in the article that this is a book by a great writer seems almost like dubious aggrandisement. Thus, fails both WP:NOR and WP:V. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 02:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Author is non-notable, and no external sources besides that of the book itself. Spiralwidget ( talk) 10:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete going to need better sources for this to meet any sort of notability guideline, and I can't find any (on the subject or the author). Gnomatique ( talk) 00:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. I was very close to closing this AfD with consensus to delete, due to notability concerns per WP:NLIST. The article itself contains no references to sources that discuss the topic of US cities and their areas, and why the area delineated by their borders is relevant or significant. The vast majority of this discussion didn't focus on finding or identifying sources that could be used to demonstrate the notability of this topic, which is, of course, required in order for any article to exist. However, towards the very bottom of the discussion, User:Newimpartial made a good faith effort to find a few sources. While these sources are somewhat tenuous in my opinion, I believe that they are just far enough over the line to cast doubt on whether this topic is non-notable, and push this discussion into "no consensus" territory. My advice for the editors working on this article would be to expand your search for sources that discuss the grouping of US cities by land area and include them in the article. Otherwise, this article will be at risk of being nominated for deletion again in a couple months' time (which, if it happens, should focus on a deeper analysis of the available sources to demonstrate notability). —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 22:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of United States cities by area


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This is obvious statistical trivia. Merely (possibly? probably?) being true does not make something suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, particularly in cases like this where the only source is the WP:PRIMARY data from the US census. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - Using this logic, most of the "List of ... by population" articles should also be deleted, which is absurd. This list, for instance, averages almost 900 views per day, so it used a lot. Also, WP:PRIMARY doesn't forbid use of primary sources, stating in particular 3. A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge, which describes how the census info is being used here. Indyguy ( talk) 01:09, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a good reason. Population, unlike area, is at least usually a straightforward number (one can say X people live within the City of London, Y within the London urban area, and Z within the metropolitan area); and is one for which sources can be readily found (ex. [40]); and which tends to at least be correlated with other factors (economic, social, ...). Area? Sitka, Alaska and Seattle (both on the list) seem to me pretty much like the textbook example of apples and oranges. Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, Wikipedia is not for "lists or repositories of loosely associated topics". A trivial statistical intersection might be interesting to people interested in that kind of stuff, but that has never been a standard for inclusion.
As for the primary sourcing, the reason I highlighted this is because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which is usually a summary of existing, secondary sources, not data collated from original primary sources. Anybody can go through US census data and come up with random statistical intersections. That is not sufficient reason for inclusion in an encyclopedia.. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 01:31, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I note that the boundaries of cities is an historical and legal issue. They are subject to change. And it is highly variable across the country. Metropolitan statistical areas are an analytical tool. All that being recognized, I don't think that is a reason to delete. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 18:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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  • Yes, this is the kind of list that many paper encyclopedias contained before Wikipedia put most of them out of business, but I'm struggling to find any use for it. The "by area" just asks for cities in Alaska to be at the top, because many of them incorporate small centres with very large areas of barely inhabited land, and it was certainly no surprise when I just looked and saw them there. Along with the American habit of calling every town a city this just seems to be, as I saw someone write about another topic recently, a nothingburger. Phil Bridger ( talk) 15:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep this is clearly a WP:DISCRIMINATE list of information. Most of the arugments I read above are that its "indiscriminate" (it's not, it's clearly defined) and that it isn't useful. Well... useful isn't really a measure that we use for notability--but I found the article and this discussion because I was looking for a list of US cities by land area. Seems to meet the measure set forth in the essay WP:IMPACT to me.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 02:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - clear WP:NLIST pass. Many of the Delete votes represent conceptual objections to the list (basically WP:IDONTLIKEIT), rather than being based on policy. Many reliable, secondary sources discuss the content of the list (cities by land area). Newimpartial ( talk) 14:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Could you perhaps list one of those many sources that compare cities by area? — kashmīrī  TALK 15:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Here is the first academic paper that I could find that not paywalled and follows a related approach (its authors choose to present the population and the density but not the area used to calculate density). And here are a couple of journalistic sources offering analysis directly based on land area comparisons between cities: [41] [42]. I only scratched the surface; I have no doubt there is much more out there (some of it paywalled, of course). Newimpartial ( talk) 16:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Well, the first paper explicitly states that it Core Based Statistical Area and not the "city area". The second link is borderline relevant, although some may argue that it's a "nothingburger" that does not venture beyond raw statistical data ("Oh, there are now cities with a bigger area than Cleveland even though they have smaller populations"). The third link is again unconnected with this present list (it discusses population densities). Does it indeed show that we need to have a separate ranking list on Wikipedia, or it's enough to have area/population data in individual articles? — kashmīrī  TALK 17:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    I believe you are misreading the first paper. Tables 3 and 4 each consist of three lists: one based on metropolitan area, a second based on urbanized area, and a third based on principal city area. The content of this WP article corresponds to the city area used for the calculation underlying the third column of Table 4.
    Also, it is inaccurate to say that the third link is again unconnected with this present list. It provides the land area of each city it lists and also explains how a city's land area impacts density (using the comparison of San Francisco to Jacksonville).
    You have given me an excellent example of why I don't normally WP:SATISFY requests for sources at AfD: when I do give relevant sources, it is typical for editors to misread them (as you have done) or dismiss them as a "nothingburger" (as you have also done). My prior belief - that people asking for sample sources at AfD are typically making a rhetorical move rather than, you know, actually asking for sources - is unfortunately confirmed. Newimpartial ( talk) 21:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Area of populated places is a significant topic. p b p 22:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per the excellent arguments presented by Kashmiri and the lacking arguments given for keep so far. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 23:43, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Views are split between keep, merge and delete and I find it unlikely an agreement is going to happen. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of the largest counties in the United States by area

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This is obvious statistical trivia which appears to have been compiled as an original project (one with an original methodology, it also seems, since this goes to lengths to explain how it came to its results) by a random Wikipedian. Merely (possibly? probably?) being true does not make something suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:11, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Delete – Doesn't pass WP:LISTN and is trivia, although less so than the counties article. There is [43], but it seems to be taken from this list. Ovinus ( talk) 01:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I don't think the World Atlas took anything from Wikipedia. Just access the census website or other government sources for the same information. Dream Focus 05:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Delete Just a list with no sources. Does not pass WP:LISTN TH1980 ( talk) 02:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Provinces and territories of Canada. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 22:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of Canadian provinces and territories by area

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Fails WP:NOTSTATS (since the sole purpose of this page is listing a few statistics, which can be and already are covered elsewhere) and is particularly redundant to Provinces and territories of Canada, where the most significant aspects of this are already covered. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Comment I did not post it at WP:ARS. But I came here from there.
I assumed that the customary notice had been posted here. I still don't know it was or wasn't at the time. If I had noticed the omission, I would have corrected it when I posted my reply. I will try to be more diligent in the future. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 00:40, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
7&6=thirteen, please see here. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 11:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
If that template is used, it is neutral, and simply states the fact that is of interest to a project. Without the need for User:TompaDompa's explanation. He too could put it in, 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 11:27, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:36, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Subsonic Factor

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Contested PROD. Musical act with no reliable sources to indicate WP:GNG. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 22:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to NESN#Former. ✗ plicit 12:44, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

SportsDesk

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Unsourced, minimal sourcing found. As a one-market show it's unlikely to have garnered media attention Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 20:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 01:07, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Moguls (TV series)

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No sourcing found, prod contested Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 20:42, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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Delete, a search for any sources turns up nothing relevant, apart from IMBD (not reliable), therefore not notable per WP:GNG. HenryTemplo ( talk) 15:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete The Ski Channel was a long-term 'coming soon' entry in the '20xx in American television' series of articles...but it was never more than a specialist VOD service which has long went defunct. Thus, this is a television series that never actually aired, much less scheduled, on an actual cable network. Nate • ( chatter) 01:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Guerillero Parlez Moi 20:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Andreas Renner

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other than sexual harassment accusation, not notable. WP:BLP1E applies. Not enough to be in Wikipedia. —  rsjaffe  🗣️ 23:34, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

W. N. Chattin Carlton

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Extent of notability unclear Mooonswimmer 22:56, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete the sourcing to justify an article is not there, and his career does not meet any of the prongs of notability for academics. Heads of libraries can be notable for such, or for their work as a librarian, or as a scholar more generally, but to show that we would need better sources than we have here. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:50, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Significant list of publications, notability is clearly established. Gamaliel ( talk) 16:24, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    I'll play devil's advocate. Which of these are significant and how?
    The following are reprintings of speeches or very short works, including catalogs of collections.
    • The Arrangement and Use of Documents (without Cataloguing) in a Depository Library. Hartford, Connecticut, 1909.: 32 leaves. Short. Revision of a paper read. Not significant.
    • The Catalogue of the E.D. Church Collection. Papers of the Bibliographical Society of America, 1912.: 5 pages. Even shorter. A cataloging of a collection is not significant; this probably doesn't even belong in a Wikipedia article, even if it was published.
    • Henry Edwards Huntington, 1850-1927: An Appreciation. New York: American Collector, 1927: 20 pages. Short.
    • Notes on the Bridgewater House Library. New York: Priv. Print., 1918.: 20 pages. You can read them here. Short.
    • Superstructures. New York Public Library, 1918.: 13 pages. Short. "An address delivered at the commencement exercises of the Library school, the New York public library, June 7, 1918... Reprinted ... from the Bulletin of the New York public library of June 1918." Not significant.
    • The Kilmarnock Burns, 1786. New York: G.D. Smith Book Co., 1927.: 7 pages with illustrations. Short.
    2 books:
    • Charles Jeremy Hoadly, LL.D.: A Memoir. Hartford, Connecticut: Acorn Club, 1902.: 54 pages: Short. More significant for the subject than for the author, but sure, it's a book.
    • Pauline: Favourite Sister of Napoleon. New York & London, 1930.: WorldCat has little on this one. It may be 300+ pages, according to Google. Not sure of its significance or the significance of the other book--reviews, etc.
    So why do you say "significant list of publications, notability is clearly established"? I'm about to vote delete but I'll change my vote if you can shed enough light. DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 20:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Does not meet GNG or author notability. Carlton's era was a good time for WASP males in academia, history, genealogy, and librarianship. They did research, they wrote books, they gave presentations, and they had their speeches, their cataloging, and sometimes the occasional books published somewhere and some of those documents are cataloged in archives. Some of those documents are now in the public domain and have been digitized and are held by multiple institutions now. But just because they were part of social or even scholarly clubs doesn't make them notable (note the article history: it was created by someone creating articles for multiple members of a club). This article has nothing that indicates notability and I am not finding an obituary on newspapers.com. I would expect to find such for a director of Newberry Library, so I'm afraid it's delete unless someone can show me something. -- DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 20:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Update: the article creator added 2 obit listings in the references section and some information apparently from those obits. I tracked down the obituaries on newspapers.com and linked them in the article. (Issues with initials and multiple names going on in my first search.) I have removed a deadlink, cited these obituaries properly, fixed up the order, and clarified that most of his works were papers adapted from presentations he gave or bibliographies he created. These do not help his notability. If someone finds out that what appears to be his sole full-length book, on Napoleon's sister, got some press back in the day, please add some reviews to the article. With a whopping 3 holdings in WorldCat, I'm not optimistic it made too big of waves, but who knows? DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 13:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Meesons

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Chain seems to have existed, notability isn't apparent. Mooonswimmer 22:36, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete The article is entirely unsourced and the only source includes a small reference commenting on a photo of Meesons sweet shop where you could buy a quarter of sweets and get another quarter free. Also, our policy WP:V states that information should be verifiable. Necrothesp validly points out that online sources won't be readily available for a chain that disappeared in the 1970s but online searches of newspaper archives and books doesn't turn up any information or mention. On that basis it is difficult to argue for notability. HighKing ++ 20:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Although I found a brief mention in the Glasgow Herald, print sources are the best case for this. There's precious little coverage available. In its current state, it appears to be a collection of knowledge from someone's memory thus failing WP:V. Can always be reworked on if archives are found. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 20:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 03:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Reidar Lunde

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Couldn't come up with significant ample coverage, not sure if notable. Lunde was chief editor of Aftenposten, Norway's most circulated newspaper. Would this fall under WP:JOURNALIST's "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors" ? Mooonswimmer 22:30, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Ottoman Turkish alphabet. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Tirfil

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Subject matter doesn't seem to warrant a standalone page. Once translated, a sentence or two can be incorporated into Ottoman Turkish alphabet or similar articles. Mooonswimmer 22:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Could these additional sources be added to the article? Liz Read! Talk! 05:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Pytkeev space

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"Pytkeev space" is defined in a single 2000 paper, in terms so specialized we have no articles for them. The term is not in general use and easily confused with the "strong Pytkeev property". Links to weakly Fréchet–Urysohn space, an ad-hoc definition in the same paper.

Simply not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. IpseCustos ( talk) 21:03, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. Wikipedia has never published original research, such as this. Bearian ( talk) 17:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Weak keep. MathSciNet has three hits for "Pytkeev space", none of which are the Malykhin&Tironi paper used as this article's reference:
    • Fedeli, Alessandro; Le Donne, Attilio (2002), "Pytkeev spaces and sequential extensions", Topology and its Applications, 117 (3): 345–348, doi: 10.1016/S0166-8641(01)00026-8, MR  1874095 (definitely relevant: a response to Malykhin&Tironi solving an open problem from their paper)
    • Sakai, Masami (April 2003), "The Pytkeev property and the Reznichenko property in function spaces", Note di Matematica, 22 (2): 43–52, MR  2112730 (didn't come with a full-text link so I can't tell if it's the same concept, but the MR review says "An example: if X is a subset of the real line, Cp(X) is a Pytkeev space implies that X is perfectly meagre and has universal measure zero."
    • Pansera, Bruno A. (2008), "Relative properties and function spaces", Far East Journal of Mathematical Sciences (FJMS), 30 (2): 359–372, MR  2477776 (again, didn't come with a full-text link so I can't tell if the MR review's mention of Pytkeev spaces is the same concept)
There are also additional hits for "Pytkeev spaces", including the Malykhin&Tironi reference. I conclude that, with the Fedeli&Le Donne paper at least, we have multiple research groups using this term non-trivially, enough for a borderline pass of WP:GNG. Although I doubt many readers will find this article useful, it seems mostly harmless. And reporting on research concepts described in academic journal articles, as here, is the opposite of original research. — David Eppstein ( talk) 07:34, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 19:53, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Hasan Masurica

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See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hasan Masurica for a thorough explanation of the problems with this article. Much of this information is fantastical. —  rsjaffe  🗣️ 23:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 03:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

First Party

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Does not pass WP:GNG. Kadı Message 18:27, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Cartoonito (American programming block). Liz Read! Talk! 05:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Tickle-U

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Non-notable programming block, no sourcing found. Deprodded for literally no reason. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:27, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Merge to Cartoonito (American programming block) - Tickle-U ties in more as predecessor to Cartoonito. kpgamingz ( rant me) 14:44, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I was thinking something similar as well. We could either merge with Cartoonito (whole brand) or Cartoonito USA. MegaSmike46 ( talk) 18:00, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Ajaita Shah

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Poorly sourced, fails NBIO and GNG as the sources are all churnalistic entrepreneur profiles. Created by a blocked user. M4DU7 ( talk) 22:43, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. The case was not made that a redirect is within policy or desirable due to how common the phrase is. Guerillero Parlez Moi 13:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

The Best Sex Ever

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No sourcing found in a WP:BEFORE. Found only false positives using the phrase "best sex ever" unrelated contexts. Deprodded for no reason. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment. I checked and the editor who removed the PROD did so with the summary "Removed Proposed deletion/dated tag: "unlikely to have sources" not quite good enough for PROD, let's check". So, your assertion that it was "Deprodded for no reason." is yet another made up rationale in one of your AfD nominations. DonaldD23 talk to me 18:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Fails WP:GNG. Aside from routine entries in IMDb and the like, searches yield only incidental mentions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:32, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Plebiscito.eu. Liz Read! Talk! 23:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Veneto Yes

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A party that took part in an unofficial local election and of which it is almost impossible to find sources. It does not seems to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 22:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Having a separate article on this minor party is clearly better, as Wikipedia's greatness is made especially by small entries like this. However, I could also accept a merger with Plebiscito.eu. Veneto Yes was the partisan arm of the former. However, every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, indeed, also established and traditional encyclopedias also have small entries. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was Soft Delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:30, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Systemic wars theory

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Reviewed under new page patrol. No evidence of WP:notability. This is one person's theory. It appears that there is no in depth coverage of the theory except by the one person who created the theory, Ingo Piepers. It appears that 2-3 references criticized it. At least 5 (and probably more) of of the given references were written by Piepers. North8000 ( talk) 21:08, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Italian Liberal Party (1997). Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Liberals for Italy

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"Liberals for Italy" was nothing more than a label for a parliamentary subgroup affiliated with the Italian Liberal Party (1997) and subsequently for a list (directly connected to the Italian Liberal Party) that participated in the Italian general election of 2013 (scoring 0.08% of the vote). In practice, the little information contained in this page could easily be merged with Italian Liberal Party (1997), but I don't see any reason to keep an autonomous page for this label. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 21:05, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Why should we delete an article on a five to ten-deputy strong parliamentary group, or better sub-group within the Mixed Group of the Chamber of Deputies of Italy? Not only, the group was joined by several leading politicians, but also it lasted for two years, was instrumental in the demise of Silvio Berlusconi's fourth government. Why should we lose these infos? Every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, even though also established and traditional encyclopedias also have small entries, the greatness of Wikipedia is precisely having articles for little-known subjects. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
You did well to specify, because was not a parliamentary group (in this case it would have been encyclopedic) but a sub-group of the Mixed Group of the Chamber of Deputies. The page does not show any information of particular importance and the fall of the Berlusconi government was caused by many factors. The very little information contained on this page could easily be transferred to the page of the Italian Liberal Party, to which the sub-group was affiliated. But I honestly don't see any reason to keep a standalone page in this case.-- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 21:07, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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Ring of Fire (radio program)

Result was Snow Keep. The nominator has been blocked for socking per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SquareInARoundHole. TolWol56 ( talk) 01:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply


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Subject has limited references, and seems to be WP:PROMO. I believe this subject fails WP:NBASIC. Sebastien1118 ( talk) 20:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete – see also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DPLIVE202. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Prabhu Shri Ram 2

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Unreleased non-notable film. Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 20:07, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 20:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Outgrow.me

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Website is clearly inactive. Previous nomination in 2016 conducted when website was still active. Page is an orphan. Page also is lacking information and not contributing significantly. i would claim page no longer notable. Spiralwidget ( talk) 20:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Garber, Megan (2012-09-04). "The Afterlife of a Kickstarter Project". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "Here's one spot: Outgrow.me, a digital marketplace for projects that were successfully funded on both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo. The site sorts its contents by "Orderable" and "Pre-orderable," as well as by topic and price. And it's "fine proof," The Next Web puts it, "that the Kickstarter concept does work despite the (admittedly warranted) pessimistic coverage of crowdfunded failures." ... On the one hand, Outgrow.me is both simple and inevitable: It's a catalog fit for the Kickstarter era. It sells, like any standard catalog does, knickknacks of varying value and utility -- some junky, some fantastic, some junky and fantastic at the same time. What's interesting about it, though, is that Outgrow.me is as much about selling a production process as it is about selling products."

    2. MacManus, Christopher (2013-01-14). "Outgrow.me: Easily track success of crowdfunded projects". CNET. Archived from the original on 2020-11-24. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "The new Web site Outgrow.me features a visual directory of successful crowdfunded darlings, which you can browse according to availability -- such as projects available now or those still in preorder status. Any projects currently seeking money won't even show up on the site, meaning Outgrow acts as an easy way to wade through all of the noise and buy some potentially cutting-edge products ready for prime time."

    3. Falconer, Joel (2012-09-04). "Meet Outgrow.me, the marketplace that puts completed Kickstarter projects back in the spotlight". The Next Web. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "Outgrow.me is a marketplace for Kickstarter and IndieGoGo projects that were successfully funded and are now available for purchase. Here, you can go beyond thinking about how cool it would be if something did come to market and start benefiting from all that the best of crowdfunding entails. ... The site does allow listings for projects that are successfully funded but can only be pre-ordered. We don’t know whether Outgrow.me restricts these based on the project’s level of readiness for the market, which again raises concerns about the failure of funded Kickstarter projects, but these can be filtered out quite easily right at the top of the homepage."

    4. Epstein, Zach (2012-07-18). "Outgrow.me: All the best Kickstarter projects you can buy, in one place". Boy Genius Report. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "From an iPad stylus with pinpoint accuracy and sleek desktop jelly fish tanks to customizable 3-string guitars and zero-waste batteries, Outgrow.me makes it beyond easy to see — and spend money on — the best that Kickstarter and Indiegogo have to offer."

    5. F., G. (2013-03-30). "After the crowd leaves". The Economist. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

      The article notes: "Sam Fellig has an answer in Outgrow.me. Mr Fellig started the e-commerce site last year as a programming project, while retraining to exit his old job working with homeowners who were trying to retain their houses in the event of foreclosure. He spotted a growing problem with crowdfunded products. ... More recent campaigns have learned from earlier ones' experience and are getting much better at meeting deadlines. Outgrow.me has every chance of living up to its name."

    6. Less significant coverage:
      1. Aamoth, Doug (2013-05-01). "50 Best Websites 2013. Outgrow.me". Time. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

        The article notes: "Outgrow.me solves that problem by featuring only Kickstarter and Indiegogo products that are either available for purchase or preorder. If it’s not on the site, it’s either not ready or it didn’t get enough funding."

      2. Dingman, Shane (2012-11-22). "Where to buy tech gifts that got Kickstarted". The Globe and Mail. Archived from the original on 2022-06-13. Retrieved 2022-06-13.

        The article notes: "So, where's the best place to shop for those Kickstarters? Try outgrow.me. This marketplace website collects the successfully launched gear in an attractive and easy-to-navigate online store. But buyer beware, they also showcase some of those products that aren't quite out of the launch bay (such as the examples above, or the Oculus Rift 3D headset)."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Outgrow.me to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

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The result was redirect to Lega Toscana. I've gone for this instead of a merge because consensus appears that there is little that could be added aside from a sentence or two, which would be minor work. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Tuscan Federalist Alliance

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A totally unknown local party, that existed for a very short period of time. The page is written in five lines and only half of them concerns the party. Two sources are cited on the page, only one of them concerns the party and textually reads: "Riccardo Fragassi ... founded the Tuscan Federalist Alliance and then disappeared." It does not seem possible to find any other source except this one, which merely states that the party has existed and disappeared. Practically, this party is devoid of any kind of source and relevance. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. The Tuscan Federalist Alliance was one of the major splits occurred to Lega Toscana. Its founder and leader Riccardo Fragassi was previously a leading member of Lega Toscana. The party was active for several years and, while it did not achieve electoral success (at the time also Lega Toscana was not doing well, possibly also because of the split), it clearly deserves an article in Wikipedia or, at least, a redirect to "Lega Toscana". Every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, even though also established and traditional encyclopedias also have small entries, the greatness of Wikipedia is precisely having articles for little-known subjects. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    • The claim that "Tuscan Federalist Alliance was one of the major splits occurred to Lega Toscana" seems to me a WP:Original research, since it is not proven by any source (as no source deals with this party). A party without sources is not relevant, but it could be redirected to Lega Toscana with a brief mention in the article (and nothing more, since there is almost nothing to say about this party) as compromise. -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:42, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or merge into Lega Toscana. No academic publication, nor news articles, not even blogs nor random websites talk about this party. Except for the one book cited in the article, which only mentions the party in passing, as explained by the OP. This does not meet WP:GNG. Yakme ( talk) 15:43, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Further comment. I believe that the party, which was also represented in Tuscany's regional council, should be kept, but, in order not to lose the article's history, what about a merger through redirect with Lega Toscana? -- Checco ( talk) 13:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
It's fine for me to have a sentence about this party in Lega Toscana. Yakme ( talk) 13:58, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I see that the article Lega Toscana already covers the portions contained in this article, so I think that a merge is not necessary because it was already done...
I would like to point out two things:
1) As far as I can verify, "Tuscan Federalist Alliance" has never been a political party, but just a "gruppo consiliare", i.e. a parliamentary group in the Tuscan Regional Council. They are two different things. I can't verify that Alleanza Federale ever participated in a regional election in Tuscany.
2) The fact that a political party or parliamentary group is represented in a Parliament/Council is not per se a notability criteria. A standalone article needs to follow at least Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. I believe that this article (like many other articles concerning Italian minor parties I'm finding in Wikipedia) doesn't meet any of the criteria set in this policy. P1221 ( talk) 08:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I understand that it is now difficult to find sources on the web on an old minor political party, but the Tuscan Federalist Alliance was a party of its own right. Moreover, from the point of view of international political science there would be no specific difference between a political party and a parliamentary-only political party. I will try to find more sources. However, I hope that we can avoid a deletion anyway. In order to preserve the article's history, the article could easily become a redirect pointing to Lega Toscana. -- Checco ( talk) 07:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete – see also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DPLIVE202. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Motzoid India

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Contested Prod by single purpose editor. Nothing seems to be notable about this company fails WP:GNG and more so WP:NCORP McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 20:11, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 20:52, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Lena Jensen Rogn

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Low-level skiier that never placed on the podium or won a title, and maxed out at 23rd place, so we can't presume notability based on high achievement. No WP:GNG coverage located on a search. Long since retired so new coverage is unlikely to be generated. Only source currently is a database. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:27, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 20:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Atle Rognerud

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With WP:NFOOTY deprecated, notability is no longer presumed on a single professional appearance; WP:GNG must be met. No significant coverage located on a search. Even presuming the Norwegian News Agency source is SIGCOV (I haven't been able to find access to it to verify), a single source is insufficient to keep the article. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:26, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 20:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Emil Nyeng

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Low-level skiier that never placed on the podium or won a title, and maxed out at 19th place, so we can't presume notability based on high achievement. No WP:GNG coverage located on a search. Only source currently is a database. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:21, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Kristiane Wyllie

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Fails WP:GNG. All sources are trivial. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 19:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Steuart Pittman, Jr.

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WP:BLP of a county executive, not properly referenced as passing WP:NPOL #2. As always, the county level of office is not an automatic notability freebie that guarantees inclusion in Wikipedia -- it's one where the sourcing and substance need to establish that he has a credible claim to being a special case of significantly greater notability than the norm for county executives. But that's not what's on offer here: this is essentially a résumé, referenced almost entirely to a mixture of primary sources (raw tables of election results, the self-published websites of organizations that he's directly affiliated with, etc.) that aren't support for notability at all and run of the mill coverage in community hyperlocals, with only one hit from a major WP:GNG-worthy daily newspaper (which isn't enough all by itself.)
In addition, there's also a possibility of WP:COI editing here, as there were at least two prior attempts to create an article about him at the title Steuart Pittman, which consisted of a county employee trying to create the article by copy-pasting Pittman's own self-penned biography directly from the county website in defiance of our copyvio rules, and then trying to bypass the WP:AFC process by moving it into mainspace themselves without the AFC review that was especially mandatory because of the COI.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have more than just the routinely expected level of local media coverage that every county executive in every county always has. Bearcat ( talk) 17:22, 28 May 2022 (UTC) reply

There's no "big jurisdiction" exemption in WP:NPOL #2 — no matter how big a county is or isn't, the county executive's eligibility for a Wikipedia article remains undetachable from whether or not he can be shown to pass WP:GNG on his sourceability. Bearcat ( talk) 15:48, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 07:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Simiso Buthelezi

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Non-notable boxer who died following a fight for a non-notable regional championship. He's only mentioned in reference to his death and almost certainly will not receive coverage for anything else. – 2. O. Boxing 20:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep to remind people the dangers of boxing and out of respect for his life. There are way more articles to go after than this one.-- 2601:3C5:8200:97E0:8DDB:A685:D3EA:FA55 ( talk) 20:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

They're not valid reasons to keep an article. See WP:NOTADVOCACY and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. – 2. O. Boxing 22:15, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep. I approved the WP:AFCH submission based on the widespread international coverage that the subject received. A quick search reveals many more sources that are not used in the article, such as CNN in the USA, News24 in South Africa, TribuneIndia. I agree that the subject's career as a boxer is not notable, however, the guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (people) state "If, however, there is only enough information about one notable event related to the person, then the article should be titled specifically about that event, such as Steve Bartman incident". I would be OK with a rename (although I think it would be overly pedantic) but not a delete. Greenman ( talk) 17:22, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

@ Greenman: WP:BLP1E would be the relevant policy here. The subject fails the three conditions for articles to generally avoid; he is covered only in relation to his death; this person will almost certainly remain a low-profile individual; the event wasn't significant. Unfortunately, deaths in boxing are quite common and all receive substantial short-term coverage. This one has received a bit more attention than most, but that is undoubtedly due to the video clip of the fight. – 2. O. Boxing 18:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
The second condition also states "In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article." Greenman ( talk) 22:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
There is no event article, and it's unlikely there ever will be per WP:EVENT. – 2. O. Boxing 23:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Seems like recentism, I agree with squared circle that the subject is receiving short term coverage because of the video clip, it is quite jarring to see in hindsight, but a WP:CRYSTALBALL would be required to prove his death will have more impact then the other deaths that occur from in ring competition. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 20:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Certainly his death was tragic, but that doesn't make him WP notable. This is not the first, or likely last, boxing death and they all generate short term news and usually calls for banning boxing--but then the furor subsides and fades away (at least for the general public). WP:BIO1E, WP:NOTMEMORIAL, and WP:NOTADVOCACY all apply. He's not notable for anything else and the event was minor (on an encyclopedic level). If something significant comes from his death, the article can be recreated. Papaursa ( talk) 23:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Modussiccandi ( talk) 07:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Citizens' Political Movement

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A totally unknown political party, it has never participated in elections and is not mentioned in any relevant source. In practice, this party has limited itself to existing and nothing more. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. The subject is clearly encyclopedic and deserves a to be part of Wikipedia. The Citizens' Political Movement, through its founder and leader Fernando Rossi, was represented in the Italian Senate from 2007 to 2008 and was at times crucial for the survival of Romano Prodi's second government (2006–2008). In the 2008 general election, in alliance with other minor parties, it obtained 0.3% countrywide, despite being present only in a few constituencies. To be clear, that it is more than what several American third parties with articles in Wikipedia have gathered throughout their life. Every little piece of political history deserves a space in Wikipedia and, even though also established and traditional encyclopedias have also small entries, the greatness of Wikipedia is precisely having articles for little-known subjects. The passing of time makes difficult to find more sources and information in the web, but we should avoid recentism and give space also to former minor political parties. -- Checco ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
First of all, 0.3% of the vote in the 2008 general election (a poor result in itself) was obtained from a list that was supported also by this party, not by the party itself, so this is surely not a valid motivation for keeping the page. Regarding his representation in the Senate, there are no particular constraints in the regulation of that assembly to declare membership of a party in the mixed group: Fernando Rossi, after leaving the Party of Italian Communists, had limited himself to declaring his belonging to this new party. Therefore, any votes of confidence in the Prodi government must primarily be attributed to him and not to the party. Since it is a substantially personal party that has never participated in elections, it could be directly merged with the article on Fernando Rossi. -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 22:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Definitely does not meet notability criteria, since it has no "significant coverage" in RS. From a google books search, it appears in a handful of publications, but always in passing and never analyzed in detail. Therefore it can become a sentence in the page of its founder Fernando Rossi. Yakme ( talk) 15:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. A very obscure and unknown party. The 0.3% share of votes obtained in 2008 was thanks to a much broader coalition and it didn't result in anyone elected. It totally lacks notability. P1221 ( talk) 10:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The Citizens' Political Movement has never participated in a general election. This party is not a relevant topic for the Party of Italian Communists, nor for the Federation of Liberal Democrats (also proposed for deletion). I think the only page it could be merged to is Fernando Rossi's one (as an alternative to deletion).-- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
If it has to be a merger (not my choice!), we could indeed merge this article and Federation of Liberal Democrats into For the Common Good, the joint list including also the two parties now proposed for deletion which participated in the 2008 Italian general election. -- Checco ( talk) 07:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. This title will also be salted. RL0919 ( talk) 19:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Greg maluma

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See history of Greg Maluma and Gregson Maluma, both of which are now salted. All of the 'references' are self-published material. WP:BEFORE yields nothing. If this is somehow kept, it should be moved to Greg Maluma, which would need the protection removed. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:20, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 19:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

HD 220766

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Wow, don't think I've ever seen a star with so little coverage, even in large database listings, so it fails WP:NASTRO. It is brighter than magnitude 6.5, which was a sort of get out of jail free card in the past, not so much now. Despite that, not listed in the Bright Star Catalogue so far as I can tell. Has a faint companion, same distance, don't know if they're gravitationally bound, doesn't look like anyone has ever published on it. I could probably find out some basic physical data from catalogues, but it is hard to imagine writing much about this star. Lithopsian ( talk) 17:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

This star has an entry in List of stars in Aquarius, although it is not wikilinked and it is listed as "236 G. Aqr". Lithopsian ( talk) 20:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Kaushalya Devi - The Mandana Artist

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No sources and no notability. There is a draft also. Laptopinmyhands ( talk) 17:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy deleted per WP:G4. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 23:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Miss Intercontinental 2018

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Miss Intercontinental 2018

Beauty pageant that has already been found non-notable once. Does not even have any references, and so fails verifiability as well as notability.

Consider use of sodium chloride. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

I have nominated for G4. If that fails, I !v for Delete Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos 18:09, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 17:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Mildred C. Crump

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City councilwoman, fails WP:POLITICIAN. Previously deleted. Fails WP:BIO scope_creep Talk 16:52, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep. Seems to be plenty coverage, some examples:

  1. https://newjerseyglobe.com/local/mildred-crump-resigns-newark-council-seat/
  2. https://www.nj.com/essex/2022/02/newarks-1st-black-councilwoman-celebrated-as-a-trailblazer-who-led-from-a-place-in-her-heart.html
  3. https://patch.com/new-jersey/newarknj/trailblazing-newark-councilwoman-mildred-crump-resigns-report (previous discussion reached no apparent consensus on the reliability of Patch.com

Some less significant coverage, but worth noting:

  1. She is quoted here, so I wouldn't use the quote, but the fact that they went to her for this statement suggests notability to me: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/nyregion/newark-riots-50-years.html
  2. Brief mention here https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/23/procedural-justice-transform-us-criminal-courts
  3. https://www.insidernj.com/crump-2022-refocusing-place-strength/
  4. 9 mentions in Gillespie, A. (2013). The New Black Politician: Cory Booker, Newark, and Post-Racial America. United States: NYU Press. CT55555 ( talk) 20:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
That is a good reference. Perhaps you can put it in the article and any others you find. scope_creep Talk 05:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I'd love to, but I'm spending way too much of my WP time doing BEFORE for other people, which leaves very little time for editing. Maybe you could find some time to fix it. :) Jacona ( talk) 17:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Juan Adams

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Fails WP:NMMA notability criteria. His highest quarterly ranking by FightMatrix was one hundred thirty fourth, far short of the top 10 requirement. Also never appeared in Sherdog's rankings. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 16:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep Passes WP:GNG. Are we really gonna start deleting every fighter who hasn't appeared in the top 10? That's gonna be like 99% of the pages. Removing the participation criteria basically neuters any combat sport notability since combat sports have way less major titles, there isn't a draft, there isn't constant tournanments that it seems all the other sports criteria rely on. Isn't a huge amount of the sports pages on wikipedia coming from basketball, football, and soccer where guys in literally 2nd national leagues would get pages? HeinzMaster ( talk) 00:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I'm not happy about it either to be honest, but I'm trying to target pages that are relatively unnotable. Like Adams for example is 1-3 in the UFC, probably best known for losing to Greg Hardy, and has never been highly ranked. If you could provide some sources with significant or indepth coverage about him to pass GNG, I'd be happy to withdraw the nomination. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 07:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Keep Passes WP:GNG plus the background section and infobox data are extensive. I've been scared about the recent progression of these deletion policies and if it goes to this, I will be completely retiring from Wikipedia editing. It's just senseless. Ticelon ( talk) 09:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. RL0919 ( talk) 19:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Dmitry Smolyakov

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Fails WP:NMMA notability criteria. His highest quarterly ranking by FightMatrix was two hundred sixth, far short of the top 10 requirement. He also hasn't appeared in Sherdog's rankings. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 16:37, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was Keep one, redirect rest. Redirecting all to century-based lists, except Solar eclipse of October 19, 1865. RL0919 ( talk) 21:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Solar eclipse of March 14, 1801

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Wikipedia is not an astronomical database or a catalogue. All of these partial solar eclipses merely happen to have occurred, but it is unlikely they are anything but WP:ROTM; and given how all of these occurred over mostly entirely unpopulated places, back in a time when this kind of data probably wasn't readily available (and who in his sane mind in the 19th century would have gone to Antarctica to observe a partial eclipse when such solar eclipses rather often, all across the globe?) it's unlikely any WP:SIGCOV, contemporary or otherwise, exists for any of these. As such delete for failing WP:NOT; or redirect to the appropriate list (but I'm not even sure whether those lists are appropriate, to begin with). RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 16:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 17:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

2021 Talaud Islands earthquake

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Very little impact to be suitable for an article. Well below WP:MINIMUM. Dora the Axe-plorer ( explore) 15:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Francesco Morosini Naval Military School

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Fails WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE in both English and Italian (old name and new name) is not convincing about notability. A merge with Italian training ship Amerigo Vespucci might be an alternative for deletion. The Banner  talk 15:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Thanks. I would comment that you could have also improved the article instead of just trying to delete it, as those search terms bring up quite a few results. I have added a notables section, and put in a bunch of references, sorry they're bare-url as I hate to spend much time improving an article another editor wants to eliminate. I also used the former name "Collegio Navale della Gioventù Italiana del Littorio", for which I found many Italian sources, that I haven't tried to add to the article as yet. There are around a dozen sources now in the article. There is also an 11-part video series about life in the school, directed by an Italian who has an article on the Italian Wikipedia. I don't speak Italian. Jacona ( talk) 14:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • @ The Banner An important aid in searching is to not keep the quotes. The school is often referred to without "Francesco" and with the words in a different order. Perhaps you could revisit your before and see if you can find additional sources. Jacona ( talk) 14:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 17:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Lists of accolades by film

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Just a bullet point list, redundant in addition to Category:Lists of accolades by film (169) Indagate ( talk) 15:36, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Marraban Bin yauri

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This article appears to be about a village, but is incomprehensible. It doesn't even say that the village is in Nigeria, which must be inferred. It does not establish geographic notability. It was moved to draft space once, and moved back to article space. If the village is a named inhabited place or otherwise notable, this article should be blown up and started over because the quality of the English is bad. Robert McClenon ( talk) 14:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

KylieTastic i understood that wikepidia has policies and why some articles has not source and then published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samum2 ( talk • contribs) 20:23, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 17:08, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of DC Comics major characters

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Title is inherently subjective/POV, and thus fails WP:LISTCRIT. Who decides what is a "major" character? Are there really 45 major subsets of DC characters? Scope of a DC character list is already covered by the various lists at Lists of DC Comics characters, so there's not much point trying to rework this. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 14:31, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

The Private War of Doctor Doom

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Fails WP:NOTPLOT as just plot and cast list. Fails WP:GNG as no significant coverage. Unnecessary extension of its episode list entry, plot could be condensed to max. 200 words per MOS:TVPLOT and moved across. Indagate ( talk) 14:25, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 17:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Historical roots of discrimination against non-Arab Muslims, especially Iranians in the early days of Islam

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This article, like the Shia jurisprudence and development, which has an XFD already, also reads like an essay, so doing the same for this one. Alpha Piscis Austrini ( talk) 14:16, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

2022 St Albans City and District Council election

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Reviewed during new page patrol. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. "Stats only" article about a local election. No secondary sources. North8000 ( talk) 14:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Port Moresby International School

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Fails WP:GNG. WP:BEFORE does not bring up sufficient reliable, independent, in-depth sources. The Banner  talk 12:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep: It meets the criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia, including WP:GNG.

  • From WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#N ... In practice, articles on high/secondary schools and school districts are usually kept, as they are almost always found to be notable, unless their existence cannot be verified in order to stop hoaxes ... The subject of this article is one of a handful of international-standard senior secondary schools in PNG (where the literacy rate is below 62% for 9 million people), and attended by some notable people/families in the country. [7]
  • But regardless of the above, there are hundreds of independent secondary sources spanning 60 years easily found. WP:GNG is not an issue.
  • This includes WP:SIGCOV in the country's major national newspaper about an affirmitive action case on fees at the school that was taken to the Supreme Court of Papua New Guinea in 1976. [8] [9] [10] [11]
  • Another 5 minute search yields another 10 various sources: [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] and I can't be bothered pasting further.
  • While I won't be updating the article page myself any time soon, it is suitable for a stand-alone article.

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

One Thing Remains

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Aside from already-present AllMusic review, found no reliable coverage. Album/singles did chart but if that's all the subject has I don't think that's enough for me. QuietHere ( talk) 03:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. WP:NOQUORUM applies. ✗ plicit 12:45, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Living in the Age of Airplanes (soundtrack)

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Approved by AFC reviewer, but is a mere copy of the original article, Living in the Age of Airplanes. This page seems to only serve as a new home for the templates, but the texts remain untouched in the original article. Don't see a purpose for this; perhaps a redirect can be made directing to the original article's music section, and the AllMusic exlink can be moved to the original's exlink section too. Gerald WL 09:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep overlapping coverage in the main article has now been removed and this article is now linked so it is now a valid split with a pass of WP:GNG due to reliable sources coverage as shown in the article in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:51, 4 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 05:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Industry Federation of the State of Rio de Janeiro

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  • Keep – The article does not have a promotional tone, and simply delineates the history of the organization, such as various name changes, and what it does in contemporary times, all in a neutral manner. The article does not extoll the organization in a promotional manner, does not attempt to recruit others to join the organization, and does not contain promotional buzzwords and peacock terms. Also not particularly impressed with the one-word rationale for deletion here, because it provides no qualification at all (e.g. WP:VAGUEWAVE). North America 1000 03:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. This nomination brings no question about the notability of the subject, just claims it is advertising. I agree with North America's assessment. This article is not advertising. It discusses the subject with a neutral tone and provides several sources for verification. Jacona ( talk) 09:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. This closure is affected by the lack of a thoughtful and carefully composed deleiton rationale. Offering one word reasons for deletion is really not doing your due diligence as a nominator. Liz Read! Talk! 03:33, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Industry Social Service of the State of Rio de Janeiro

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  • Keep and copy edit – The article does not have a promotional tone, and simply delineates the history of the organization, and what it does in contemporary times, all in a neutral manner. The article does not extoll the institution in a particularly promotional manner, does not attempt to recruit others to join the organization, and does not contain promotional buzzwords and peacock terms. Also not particularly impressed with the one-word rationale for deletion here, because it provides no qualification at all (e.g. WP:VAGUEWAVE). That all said, the article does read in a couple of areas a bit like a press release, which can be addressed by copy editing it, because the majority of the article does not read as similar to a press release. North America 1000 03:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Nova Southeastern University. Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Pallavi Patel College of Health Care Sciences

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Non-notable college, one of 15 within Nova Southeastern University, that does not warrant a stand-alone article. Otr500 ( talk) 03:54, 28 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. No one came up with any indication of notability, by any criteria, although the delete arguments were disputed on technical grounds. So I guess this is, ahem, weak deleted. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:50, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Akhada (TV series)

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Non notable film by a non notable director. It fails WP:NFILM that requires a film to be "widely distributed and has received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics." Umakant Bhalerao ( talk) 08:10, 28 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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its a tv series not a film Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 03:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Doni Burdick

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Almost no sources except one to Facebook which doesn’t even point to this person’s Facebook page. Minor career with zero impact on any charts. Fails WP:SINGER. Egghead06 ( talk) 11:37, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep, Doni Burdick did manage to release one single which has been widely anthologized on compilation albums, and which continues to attract some public attention. In my opinion, he warrants a brief article even if little is known about him. Timothy Horrigan ( talk) 20:14, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Trinity (story arc). This is the apparent consensus even though the redirect target has also been nominated for deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:30, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Triarch

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Minor group of fictional characters that fail the WP:GNG. From what I can tell, this group only appeared in a single storyline consisting of a handful of issues, and were never used again. There is pretty much no coverage of this group in reliable sources, due to this complete lack of notability. The official DC Encyclopedia does not even dedicate an entry to this minor group. The article was WP:PRODed a couple years ago, but the PROD was removed without explanation, and this article has been sitting here unsourced since. Rorshacma ( talk) 16:17, 4 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to List of solar eclipses in the 19th century. There clearly is no consensus to keep this as an stand-alone article (despite the sole WP:BUTITEXISTS !vote); and I don't see why this was relisted, other than maybe some WP:RELISTBIAS. (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:51, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Solar eclipse of October 19, 1808

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Failed GNG: The eclipse only occurred in the sea near Antarctica, and it is unlikely that anyone saw the eclipse at that time. Likewise, history does not record this eclipse, and this eclipse has no scientific value. Therefore, this eclipse is not of notability, and therefore the references in the entry do not prove notability, i.e., they do not constitute a valid introduction. Q28 ( talk) 09:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Delete. It's worthwhile including it in the List of solar eclipses in the 19th century (as it is), but there is no point in giving it an article of its own. Athel cb ( talk) 12:23, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Lawyer joke. Closing slightly early, per WP:SNOW. North America 1000 09:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Dewey, Cheatem & Howe

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This page is literally just a list of occasions when a particular pun was used. The fact that a pun has been used on TV doesn't make the pun notable ( WP:ITEXISTS). Amisom ( talk) 09:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 17:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Delores Wells

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Biography for a non-notable playmate (possibly, redirect it to some playboy models list) damiens.rf 06:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 21:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

2022 Florida Atlantic Owls men's soccer team

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Article fails WP:GNG due to a lack of significant coverage. There is an extensive consensus that college soccer seasons do not have a presumption of notability under WP:NSEASONS unless the team has qualified for the NCAA Tournament, and this is an article for a season that hasn't even started yet, so it would be WP:TOOSOON. Recent consensus on this matter was reached here. Jay eyem ( talk) 05:42, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. North America 1000 08:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Ilana Belmaker

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dubious notability, virtually no hits on Google Scholar, created by an SPA with an interest in promoting this individual FASTILY 05:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete This article is not clearly notable in my opinion, and I think that the argument that scientific merit is limited is also valid as stated; there are many other candidates for similar articles who could be considered more notable. In addition, looking into the article history the article is clearly closely associated with the subject, and was created by User:אור פ, who later also removed a tag from the article "Ilana Belmaker" stating that the article is too closely associated with the subject at 16:01, 10 August 2021, which I think is clear evidence that this user is, indeed, clearly associated with the subject. Nothing on the talk page. the user does appear to have a history of conflicts of interest and articles which do not fulfill Wikipedia's standards. User talk:אור פ There are very few citations for most of the content, and the citations that do exist are entirely her published papers with no news articles or significant coverage from external sources to the journal. If this individual is notable, there are likely many thousands of people with similar levels of published work who would also be considered as such. Spiralwidget ( talk) 10:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Leaning delete, seems to be a published author, unsure how notable these publications are. Not sure what her notability factor is. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. The subject has one fairly highly cited paper under the name Elaine Belmaker, and there might also be other material available under this or other names. Russ Woodroofe ( talk) 21:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. 45 hits in Google Scholar, 39 hits in PubMed, article in The Lancet. this is not notable. I'm not a single-purpose account, I write articles about Israeli people, and because of The unpleasant attitude I received, I prefer to invest my time in Hebrew Wikipedia. I don't know Ilana Belmaker, I'm not associated with the subject. there are likely many thousands of people with similar levels of published work who would also be considered notable - Please write an article about them. if she is not notable, I don't know who is, I get the feeling that you have something personal against articles about Israelis in the English Wikipedia. it seems racism, our even worst. אור פ ( talk) 15:31, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    No, most of the ones that come up in AFD have been of questionable notability. Not just anyone gets an article here, we don't really care what social/economic/ethnic background they have, they must pass the notability bar here. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Please see here [22] about a British Jew that was kept. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    It is unusual for anyone to pass WP:PROF, our notability guideline for academics, when they are an associate, rather than a full, professor, so holding the subject to similar standards is far from racism. It is also unusual for such people in English-speaking countries to take the title "Prof.". Is that different in Israel? Rather than accuse people of racism it would be best for you to concentrate on the requirements of WP:PROF, where the most common reason for passing depends on the number of citations from others to articles, rather than the number of articles published which is what your previous post concentrated on. Phil Bridger ( talk) 14:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete All (or most) sources used in the article are papers she authored, so are not reliable. All I see (using the various Google services above)are papers she's published, but nothing about her as a person. I'm unable to access either Scopus or Web of Science to judge her citation factor. Nothing in GNews, the NYT or JStor, I would have liked to have seen one mass media piece about her or at least interviews. It seems that at best she's been a mid-level government functionary and a university professor. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:51, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. her is some mass media piece about her or at least interviews: [23] [24] [25], and here is another article [26] אור פ ( talk) 10:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Comment.not a single articles is about her, there are newspapers articles about incidents in Israel's medicine, she is interviewed in small part of the articles along with other interviewers and the authors descriptions of the incidents, she isn't in the center of the intreviews. As for the last item, its an articles she co-authored in the journal הרפואה (the medicine) - a very low quality journal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.102.204.53 ( talk) 11:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Does not have enough independent coverage and does not pass WP:PROF. —  Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 15:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Four Rivers Conference (Missouri)

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Sources are routine local coverage. Does not meet GNG. MB 01:58, 29 May 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Ho Chi Minh City Television. ✗ plicit 12:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

HTV9

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Redirect repeatedly contested without sources. Article in its current state does not pass WP:GNG. Jalen Folf (talk) 04:41, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • We've been getting a lot of bad Vietnam TV pages lately, but there's little I can do about them. The vnwiki article is similarly list-formatted. I do note that, if the sources can be found (and I suspect that nearly all of them are in Vietnamese), this would be a GNG-clobberer based on the information that needs to be referenced. Keep if the sources can be found. Sammi Brie (she/her •  t • c) 06:14, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Article quality isn't great, but that's not our job. It's a thing, it's part of a national broadcast network. WP:BROADCASTOUTCOMES: "Most national and regional pay television (cable, satellite, linear streaming) services are likely to be notable." Sourcing, Vietnamese not being my long suit, is admittedly problematic but it's likely we're past WP>GNG... Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 11:10, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • If redirection has been repeatedly contested then there should be a talk page discussion, per WP:BRD. Why is there not? Phil Bridger ( talk) 20:55, 6 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 06:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Commune (model of government)

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Discussion continued on the talk page following the last AfD and ended with agreement to return to AfD for deletion, seeing as there is no common literature on a commune "model of government" or even relating the various insurrections/revolutionary governments colloquially known as "communes". There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Pinging prior participants @ Otr500, Goldsztajn, Spinningspark, 力, and AusLondonder. czar 04:35, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The scope of this article is too broad (no clear direction) for a reader to learn exactly what is attempted to be portrayed. "Commune", as a political entity could be a Participatory democracy, a revolutionary government (Paris Commune), a self-governing province (Jeju Province), city-state (Principality of Monaco) or other "political organization" (from the article) such as a state, that includes "...theories about a certain range of political phenomena." This article (last sentence in the opening paragraph) states: At its core, a commune is just an organization which creates social conditions that prioritize the primacy of the collective over the individual. --- and there you have it. A commune as a model of government is a type of Intentional community. This article branches into Marxist ideologies, the same as State (polity), and delves into to mini-communes (Intentional community that could include squatters) and even workers-organizations. It looks like synthesis with some original research thrown in. Political philosophy articles need to be reliably sourced at every instance so we don't end up with unsourced editors comments exampled by everything after the source: "This hypothetical is an example...". I do not see how chopping the article back to a stub can produce anything of encyclopedic value that is not covered somewhere else. -- Otr500 ( talk) 13:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 04:15, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of Bengali songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal

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All of these lists are WP:INDISCRIMINATE listings of apparently all individual songs recorded (not "written" or "first recorded" by) by this artist. Most are not backed up by a single source (thus failing WP:V); and are otherwise probably information which is of interest only to very dedicated fans of the subject. Wikipedia is not a fansite, an itunes directory, or, effectively, a database (which is what these lists are). RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 02:42, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Music, Lists, and West Bengal. –– FormalDude talk 04:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete Most of the entries are verifiable via the linked film articles, but I agree with the rest of the nomination. While I haven't checked, some sources might be available which explore her combined body of work and thus justify perhaps one list article. I do not see any basis for one article per language though. Hemantha ( talk) 06:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Ultimately, I appreciate the work that @ Bubaikumar has done here. However, I agree with the nominator that they do not meet Wikipedia's minimum requirements for verification. –– FormalDude talk 06:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep verification might be an issue, but then it's why this article could be improved rather than deleted. The page is not an indiscriminate listing, as suggested by the nominator, nor is it a directory (as defined on WP:NOT for both), and I can't see how a list of songs recorded by a specific artist could ever be dismissed as a fansite. We have numerous lists of songs recorded by artists or filmographies, and never would I imagine such an argument for their deletion. Sources must be added, but WP:CONRED clearly suggests that this should not be a reasoning if improvement can be offered. That's what Wikipedia is all about. Shahid • Talk2me 10:25, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    The page is not an indiscriminate listing, as suggested by the nominator, nor is it a directory (as defined on WP:NOT for both), and I can't see how a list of songs recorded by a specific artist could ever be dismissed as a fansite. That is again (now for the fourth time) an unargued, plain proof by assertion. These pages are both WP:INDISCRIMINATE (due to sheer size; but also due to being "Summary-only descriptions of works.") and WP:NOTDIRECTORY (due to being, clearly, "Simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit.") Refusing to acknowledge the reality of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and persisting with a personal, unsubstantiated opinion, will only make reality hit harder. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 13:26, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: It must be proof by assertion on your part, my friend. Going by your interpretation (or misinterpretation) of WP:INDISCRIMINATE and specifically "Summary-only descriptions of works", no article which lists songs or films by an artist merits a WP article. And to top it all off, if artists are particularly prolific, their work is even less suitable for a WP list. The same goes for WP:NOTDIRECTORY - I completely disagree with your description of this page as a "simple listing without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit". Other than citing the same irrelevant policy without being able to explain its association to the proposed page, wikilawyering about it, and addressing everyone who votes against your nomination time and again (on this and others), you haven't proved anything and I find your rationale quite feeble. Let me then recommend again that you let people cast their votes without being forced into an empty argument with you, and the AfD run its course. Thank you, Shahid • Talk2me 13:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    If you come here and directly call my arguments unfounded; then don't complain that I'm "bludgeoning" when I directly address you (since you directly addressed my arguments) and show how wrong you are. You refusing to accept the validity of WP:NOT is now becoming something of a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. The only other part of your comment which warrants a reply is the OTHERSHITEXISTS argument, and that just to point out that this, except in the cases when it is a false equivalence, is indeed a good reason to delete the other stuff, too. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 13:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: No no, I do not refuse to accept the validity of WP:NOT - I refuse to accept your interpretation of it, which is simplistic and unwarranted (please take no offence for I intend none, it's not personal). I can't see how WP:OTHERSTUFF is relevant here now - I didn't mention a particular article but just said that your rationale suggests that "no article which lists songs or films by an artist merits a WP article". Which is exactly what your flawed interpretation of policy contributes. Your point about "come here and directly..." - I'm afraid you completely misunderstand the process of AfD - people cast their votes based on their view, and it goes without saying that, if they think an article should be kept, they are obviously going to cast doubt on your arguments. The problem is that you seem to not accept that people might disagree with you and find your "arguments unfounded", and this is pretty evident in your bludgeoning here and elsewhere. This doesn't help the process, so let's at least agree to disagree. Shahid • Talk2me 14:20, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Disagreeing with interpretations of policy is fine. Repeatedly calling my interpretation "flawed", without offering any reason why it is flawed and instead simply dismissing it in a true ad lapidem style, is where I draw the line. Are these pages "simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit"? Considering that the only contextual information provided is, at best, the subject's biography (often copied exactly between the different pages), which is not contextual information about the list topic, there's not much room for anything but a "yes". Are these "summary-only descriptions of works"? yes. There's not much, if any, interpretation required here. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 14:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: Well, calling your interpretation flawed and disagreeing with is practically the same thing, I believe. And clearly, I did explain why, it's just that my reasoning does not satisfy you, I guess. That all these songs are performed by the same singer is not basic shared contextual information, but even if it was, that wouldn't be enough to dismiss it because it's not a simple listing and neither does it lack encyclopedic merit, as the quote says. You highlight one part of the quote. Your example of "List of airplanes" (which you compared to a list of this sort on another AfD) shows that your position dismisses every page which lists songs or films by an artist on WP and considers only part of the policy. Then you will bring sourcing, which is another issue and not at all a reason to delete a page per WP:CONRED. Then you will mention its excessive length with a claim that I find weird at best, as if to suggest that Shreya Ghoshal should be blamed for being more prolific than, say, the Beatles, whose list of songs is not at all a directory, according to you, for reasons you can't explain. Also weird though is your original point that the existence of such a page as the one proposed here for deletion is more suitable for a fansite. Well, we're not going to see eye to eye on this issue, I guess. Shahid • Talk2me 14:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    So, in short, your "reasoning" as to how this does not fail WP:NOT is (quoted from your comments above):
    1. This page is not an indiscriminate listing nor is it a directory (no further reasons provided why it is so, see [27])
    2. I completely disagree with your description of this page ( [28])
    3. your interpretation of it, which is simplistic and unwarranted ( [29])
    4. it's not a simple listing and neither does it lack encyclopedic merit ( [30])
    Reasoning being the drawing of inferences or conclusions through the use of reason; the above is definitively not "reasoning", since it shows no supporting evidence, no logically sound argument, lacks any attempt to engage with counter-arguments, and is pretty much an "I'm right you're wrong" monologue coupled with a blatant disregard for the facts (if List of Hindi songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal is not a "summary-only descriptions of works", then nothing is). As such I'll stop wasting time with people who flat-out refuse to argue about it, and let a reasonable closer come to their conclusion about how much weight these non-arguments should be given.
    Your example of "List of airplanes" (which you compared to a list of this sort on another AfD) shows that your position dismisses every page which lists songs or films by an artist on WP and considers only part of the policy. Still persisting with the false equivalence? Again, the Beatles list contains a total of 300 entries, all solidly backed up by reliable sources. List of Bengali songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal - on its own, ignoring all of the other similar lists nominated here, has 375; List of Hindi songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal has over a 1000; ... These lists are simply not comparable in any way due to sheer differences in scale; and the additional problems posed by WP:V issues mean they are really fatally flawed. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 18:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ RandomCanadian: Getting an accusation of false equivalence from someone who compares pages of singers' songs to a theoretical "List of airplanes" is becoming amusing. Even more so though is you cherrypicking phrases from my explanations while all you did in your "reasoning" is quoting irrelevant lines from WP:NOT and giving the same simplistic rationale that this page (and others) is too long (as if Indian singers are to be judged for being too prolific). Please, I don't get what we're doing here; what I see here is a clear case of desperate WP:BLUDGEONING and intolerance to others' contrasting opinions (further evidence of this can be found in your replies to those who vote here after me). This isn't what I would like to waste time on and keep arguing with. My vote is keep and my opinion of this nomination has been made clear already. We're done here. Shahid • Talk2me 08:37, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Your position here is riddled with oblivious hypocrisy. –– FormalDude talk 09:33, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    @ FormalDude: A) I wonder what makes you want to address me for the first time with this rude, unconstructive and baseless comment. B) Your opinions (or lame way of expressing them) do not interest me. C) Discuss content and not me. D) Actually no, I'm not sure I want to discuss anything with users like you. Shahid • Talk2me 10:22, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: This is a list of original songs "first recorded" by the artist. Can't see how it is any more WP:INDISCRIMINATE than other lists of works (such as filmographies and discographies). -- Ab207 ( talk) 17:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Can't see how a list with over a thousand unsourced entries is INDISCRIMINATE? Too bad. If there are other similarly large and excessive, unsourced lists of works, they should also be deleted. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 18:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Acceptable article subject by a notable Indian singer, it just needs sourcing. This seems more like a case of WP:I DON'TLIKEIT. We don't discriminate against artists because they are prolific. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    What an utter textbook strawman which looks like WP:ITSIMPORTANT ("Acceptable article subject by a notable Indian singer"). We do discriminate against articles which fail WP:V and WP:NOT; and the second condition can't really be fixed with "just needs sourcing" RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 21:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    You admit the article needs additional sourcing, therefore implying that is not suitable for mainspace, yet you've voted keep. Make it make sense. –– FormalDude talk 09:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep: Discographies of singers, when verified and discussed in reliable sources, are of encyclopedic interest and thus wouldn't fall under WP:INDISCRIMINATE. It is telling that we have an entire WikiProject dedicated to this purpose. The article in its current state does not include sources for most of its entries, but that does not mean that they don't exist.

but our article lists unsourced entries for all these songs. I cannot personally verify each of the hundreds of entries in the article within the course of this deletion discussion for obvious reasons, but it seems to me that there isn't a problem with sources not existing, and I disagree with the interpretation that this information does not have a place on Wikipedia when sources exist. The problem, then, ultimately lies in this article not carrying these sources. As this essay eloquently puts it, an article which may currently... lack sufficient sources... can be improved and rewritten to fix its current flaws. The remedy for such an article is cleanup, not deletion. Best, DeluxeVegan ( talk) 16:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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How will sourcing it not fix it? Isn’t that what the issue is here: failing of WP:V? Also, WP:NOT is a very vague way of disregarding an article. OSE definitely applies if thousands of other similar articles exist, including even featured lists. If this is sourced entirely, it will be no different from those lists. If we’re to delete it based on any other reason than WP:V then all the other similar articles also need to go. FrB.TG ( talk) 22:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
thousands of other similar articles How many of these literally include thousands of entries? How many of these lack so many sources it is probably more worthwhile to WP:TNT and start from scratch? How many lack any pertinent context and sources showing such except for basically a copy of the lead of the parent article? Simply saying "other similar stuff exists" is not convincing usually, even less so when the "similar" stuff is not actually similar to begin with... RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 03:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
So your approach to this is "let’s delete it because it’s too long"? That is absurd. Deletion is not clean-up. There are ways to cut it down (maybe only include the most notable songs?) but deleting the lists, one of which gets 250k views a year, is not the answer. If it fails WP:V, we can start by sourcing it. Nothing is beyond fix here. FrB.TG ( talk) 04:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 06:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Seminole Warriors Boxing

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While there exists sources ( [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39]), I wouldn't consider the sum indicative of notability. SWinxy ( talk) 04:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Christian Ferri

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Almost entirely self-promotional, peacocking bio of a WP:GNG non-notable individual. Lots of sources, but none WP:RS except three, none of which however is WP:DEPTH/ WP:SIGCOV. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 02:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

An idea and a smile

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WP:GNG. It's hard to see what this is even about, never mind if it should have an article. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 01:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Applying the duck test, this looks and quacks very much like OR, since the single cited source is apparently the book itself, if Google translate is accurate, and the overall writing level is very much not the standard academic English style one would expect if this were based on existing sources. The level of detail is obviously excessive (this looks more like a book summary for, I don't know, a high school class, than an encyclopedia article). The writer does not appear to be notable either, so the claims in the article that this is a book by a great writer seems almost like dubious aggrandisement. Thus, fails both WP:NOR and WP:V. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 02:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Author is non-notable, and no external sources besides that of the book itself. Spiralwidget ( talk) 10:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete going to need better sources for this to meet any sort of notability guideline, and I can't find any (on the subject or the author). Gnomatique ( talk) 00:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. I was very close to closing this AfD with consensus to delete, due to notability concerns per WP:NLIST. The article itself contains no references to sources that discuss the topic of US cities and their areas, and why the area delineated by their borders is relevant or significant. The vast majority of this discussion didn't focus on finding or identifying sources that could be used to demonstrate the notability of this topic, which is, of course, required in order for any article to exist. However, towards the very bottom of the discussion, User:Newimpartial made a good faith effort to find a few sources. While these sources are somewhat tenuous in my opinion, I believe that they are just far enough over the line to cast doubt on whether this topic is non-notable, and push this discussion into "no consensus" territory. My advice for the editors working on this article would be to expand your search for sources that discuss the grouping of US cities by land area and include them in the article. Otherwise, this article will be at risk of being nominated for deletion again in a couple months' time (which, if it happens, should focus on a deeper analysis of the available sources to demonstrate notability). —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 22:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of United States cities by area


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This is obvious statistical trivia. Merely (possibly? probably?) being true does not make something suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, particularly in cases like this where the only source is the WP:PRIMARY data from the US census. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - Using this logic, most of the "List of ... by population" articles should also be deleted, which is absurd. This list, for instance, averages almost 900 views per day, so it used a lot. Also, WP:PRIMARY doesn't forbid use of primary sources, stating in particular 3. A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge, which describes how the census info is being used here. Indyguy ( talk) 01:09, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a good reason. Population, unlike area, is at least usually a straightforward number (one can say X people live within the City of London, Y within the London urban area, and Z within the metropolitan area); and is one for which sources can be readily found (ex. [40]); and which tends to at least be correlated with other factors (economic, social, ...). Area? Sitka, Alaska and Seattle (both on the list) seem to me pretty much like the textbook example of apples and oranges. Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, Wikipedia is not for "lists or repositories of loosely associated topics". A trivial statistical intersection might be interesting to people interested in that kind of stuff, but that has never been a standard for inclusion.
As for the primary sourcing, the reason I highlighted this is because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which is usually a summary of existing, secondary sources, not data collated from original primary sources. Anybody can go through US census data and come up with random statistical intersections. That is not sufficient reason for inclusion in an encyclopedia.. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 01:31, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I note that the boundaries of cities is an historical and legal issue. They are subject to change. And it is highly variable across the country. Metropolitan statistical areas are an analytical tool. All that being recognized, I don't think that is a reason to delete. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 18:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 11:28, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Yes, this is the kind of list that many paper encyclopedias contained before Wikipedia put most of them out of business, but I'm struggling to find any use for it. The "by area" just asks for cities in Alaska to be at the top, because many of them incorporate small centres with very large areas of barely inhabited land, and it was certainly no surprise when I just looked and saw them there. Along with the American habit of calling every town a city this just seems to be, as I saw someone write about another topic recently, a nothingburger. Phil Bridger ( talk) 15:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep this is clearly a WP:DISCRIMINATE list of information. Most of the arugments I read above are that its "indiscriminate" (it's not, it's clearly defined) and that it isn't useful. Well... useful isn't really a measure that we use for notability--but I found the article and this discussion because I was looking for a list of US cities by land area. Seems to meet the measure set forth in the essay WP:IMPACT to me.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 02:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - clear WP:NLIST pass. Many of the Delete votes represent conceptual objections to the list (basically WP:IDONTLIKEIT), rather than being based on policy. Many reliable, secondary sources discuss the content of the list (cities by land area). Newimpartial ( talk) 14:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Could you perhaps list one of those many sources that compare cities by area? — kashmīrī  TALK 15:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Here is the first academic paper that I could find that not paywalled and follows a related approach (its authors choose to present the population and the density but not the area used to calculate density). And here are a couple of journalistic sources offering analysis directly based on land area comparisons between cities: [41] [42]. I only scratched the surface; I have no doubt there is much more out there (some of it paywalled, of course). Newimpartial ( talk) 16:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    Well, the first paper explicitly states that it Core Based Statistical Area and not the "city area". The second link is borderline relevant, although some may argue that it's a "nothingburger" that does not venture beyond raw statistical data ("Oh, there are now cities with a bigger area than Cleveland even though they have smaller populations"). The third link is again unconnected with this present list (it discusses population densities). Does it indeed show that we need to have a separate ranking list on Wikipedia, or it's enough to have area/population data in individual articles? — kashmīrī  TALK 17:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
    I believe you are misreading the first paper. Tables 3 and 4 each consist of three lists: one based on metropolitan area, a second based on urbanized area, and a third based on principal city area. The content of this WP article corresponds to the city area used for the calculation underlying the third column of Table 4.
    Also, it is inaccurate to say that the third link is again unconnected with this present list. It provides the land area of each city it lists and also explains how a city's land area impacts density (using the comparison of San Francisco to Jacksonville).
    You have given me an excellent example of why I don't normally WP:SATISFY requests for sources at AfD: when I do give relevant sources, it is typical for editors to misread them (as you have done) or dismiss them as a "nothingburger" (as you have also done). My prior belief - that people asking for sample sources at AfD are typically making a rhetorical move rather than, you know, actually asking for sources - is unfortunately confirmed. Newimpartial ( talk) 21:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Area of populated places is a significant topic. p b p 22:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per the excellent arguments presented by Kashmiri and the lacking arguments given for keep so far. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 23:43, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Views are split between keep, merge and delete and I find it unlikely an agreement is going to happen. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of the largest counties in the United States by area

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This is obvious statistical trivia which appears to have been compiled as an original project (one with an original methodology, it also seems, since this goes to lengths to explain how it came to its results) by a random Wikipedian. Merely (possibly? probably?) being true does not make something suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:11, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Delete – Doesn't pass WP:LISTN and is trivia, although less so than the counties article. There is [43], but it seems to be taken from this list. Ovinus ( talk) 01:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
I don't think the World Atlas took anything from Wikipedia. Just access the census website or other government sources for the same information. Dream Focus 05:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Delete Just a list with no sources. Does not pass WP:LISTN TH1980 ( talk) 02:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Provinces and territories of Canada. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 22:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC) reply

List of Canadian provinces and territories by area

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Fails WP:NOTSTATS (since the sole purpose of this page is listing a few statistics, which can be and already are covered elsewhere) and is particularly redundant to Provinces and territories of Canada, where the most significant aspects of this are already covered. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 00:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Comment I did not post it at WP:ARS. But I came here from there.
I assumed that the customary notice had been posted here. I still don't know it was or wasn't at the time. If I had noticed the omission, I would have corrected it when I posted my reply. I will try to be more diligent in the future. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 00:40, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
7&6=thirteen, please see here. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 11:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
If that template is used, it is neutral, and simply states the fact that is of interest to a project. Without the need for User:TompaDompa's explanation. He too could put it in, 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 11:27, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
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