The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The subject has earned at least two caps for the Zimbabwe women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:50, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Article was blanked and redirected back in 2011, but term is not mentioned at redirect target. Not sure if a stand-alone article is appropriate, or if there is content that can be merged, or if deletion is the best course of action. Another possibility is to redirect to TVNZ#Conflicts, where it is mentioned. Mdewman6 ( talk) 23:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Could not find significant coverage to meet WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 23:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedied G5 by User:Girth Summit. Bearcat ( talk) 16:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. The Global Kashmir source is a rehash of a press release, The Kashmir Despatch is a single-line passing mention. Two sources are for groups and have minimal or no mention. The final source is an interview in a language I don't speak, but interviews are generally iffy for notability and the context isn't directly about the person, but seems to be a political piece to boast of projects from the party in power (where they are a youth group leader). Several aspects of their career are unsourced. Ravensfire ( talk) 23:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:45, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Reviewed during new page patrol No indication of notability under either GNG or SNG. The only references are two brief coverage of draft items. Has been tagged as such since May 2023 with no additions. North8000 ( talk) 22:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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band whose only notability is based on having two former members of Paramore, and they never even released music. Should be merged with the Farro brothers articles All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha ( talk) 22:51, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:02, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Mossad#Alleged operations. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Propose merging into List of Israeli assassinations. Most of the operations listed on this page are covered on the latter page, and many of the links are redirects to either the larger assassination page or to the Mossad main page. For those bullets that are intelligence operations (eg capture of Khrushchev's speech), they can be merged into the main Mossad article. Longhornsg ( talk) 21:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Obvious WP:Content forking of articles Ruthenian nobility and Szlachta. The article seems to be written in a very one-sided manner, with a clear goal: most of the nobility in Galicia had Ukrainian ancestry from time immemorial, i.e. from the early Middle Ages, and despite "Polonization" they always remained Ukrainian. This statement is, of course, fundamentally false, because the history of the formation of the noble state is much more complicated, involving a large influx of nobles from Poland, the ruthenization of nobles of Polish origin, the Polonization of nobles of Ruthenian origin, the influx of people from Romania, Germany, Hungary and so on.
The article, by the way, is based largely on the writings of Ukrainian researcher Lubov Slivka, who has promoted precisely this way of seeing the issue, which has been criticized by other researchers. Polish researcher Konrad Rzemieniecki wrote in his review of her work: Summing up the book itself, one can say that the author approached the research with a preconceived thesis and selected sources under this thesis. If one were to reverse the selection of sources and rely mainly on Roman Catholic metric books, materials of only Polish social organizations and interviews only with Polish representatives of the Galician petty gentry, one could easily show that most of the petty gentry were part of the Polish nation.
The article contains sentences that are downright false: Western Ukrainian nobles enjoyed the legal rights and privileges of other nobles. They had their own court system and unlike Ukrainian peasants were not under the authority of the Polish landlords. - suggests that there was a legal separation between Polish and Ukrainian nobles, which isn't true since 1430 when Red Ruthenia was fully incorporated into the Polish Crown. The elected heads of self-governing Ukrainian noble communities were called prefects. - there was no such office in PLC as prefect. Unlike Ukrainian peasants, Ukrainian nobles worked on their own lands and were not forced to work for the Polish nobility. They enjoyed their own court system and were not under the authority of local Polish-dominated courts. - again article suggests that there was a legal separation between Polish and Ukrainian nobles, this time in Austro-Hungary, which isn't true. In contrast to the Polish nobles who had owned serfs, the Ukrainian nobles did not experience economic losses when serfdom was abolished. - the article suggests that "wealthy noble = Pole, poor noble = Ukrainian" or that only Polish nobles were so evil to own serfs; reality wasn't that simple. These are just examples.
The article generally focuses on Polish-Ukrainian relations, we will not learn much about, for example, the relationship with the Austrian government during the partition period, the relationship with Russia, the Soviet Union. The position of the descendants of this social group in modern Ukraine, etc.
Moreover, the title itself is unclear. The use of the term "Galicia" suggests the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, an Austrian administrative unit. But the article focuses on the eastern part of it. Moreover, there is no mention of nobility, but rather of petty nobility. I believe that the article in its current state and in this view does not meet the requirements, those parts that meet the requirements should be combined with Ruthenian nobility.
Of course, the subject of Ukrainian nobility or Petty gentry in Galicia itself is worth describing, but not in this form and impartially. Marcelus ( talk) 21:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Each group lived in different parts of Galicia. So his criticism doesn't make much sense. The scope of her work (and of this article) isn't about all gentry in Eastern Galicia but only the Ukrainian ones specifically; This is what the fallacy of the article is all about. These groups were not separate, and their identities were complex. I am able to imagine an article Petty gentry in Eastern Galicia that would describe the subject honestly. But the current take is pure WP:NATIONALISM. Marcelus ( talk) 09:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Ethnic group does not stem from another ethnic group), I will say that specifying this sentence is a) rather tangential to what is being written about in this article or b) even worse, a case of WP:NPOV by Marcelus wanting to prioritize the Polish origins section as truth over the Ukrainian or East Slavic origins. As of now, both are equally presented in the section Origins. Both sections are presented with attributing statements, so I would not consider it as some NPOV text that must be removed due to it contradicting Wiki policy because it does not contradict Wiki policy as all potentially biased opinions seem to be attributed. Also, addressing the roots of a specific group is not necessarily nationalism - writing that Canadians are not descended from Belgians but instead from other groups is not a case of nationalist POV, so why would pointing out the East Slavic roots of Ukrainian nobles be nationalist? What Marcelus is saying is highly questionable.
even worse, a case of WP:NPOV by Marcelus wanting to prioritize the Polish origins section as truth over the Ukrainian or East Slavic origins; that's an obvious misinterpretation of my words, I never advocated for such thing. On the contrary, I object to the categorical, POV views, presented in the article, that the petty gentry in Galicia was purely "biologically" Ruthenian/Ukrainian. The truth is that it was mixed, with many families coming from central Poland or other countries and regions.
As of now, both are equally presented in the section Origins; this section is an exceptional POV. It contrasts the obvious strawman of "Polish historians of the 1930s" as preachers of false theses, with the position of "modern Ukrainian historians" who easily refute their theses. The conclusion is clear: the petty nobility in Ukraine has always been fully Ruthenian/Ukrainian. I don't know how one can fail to see the fallacy in this section.
I am more ambiguous about whether this is a WP:CFORK. This article is 40 kB, while the Ruthenian nobility is <28 kB. Putting the content of this article into the Ruthenian nobility would give the latter an overly heavy focus on a very limited region in Ukraine compared to the Ruthenian nobility article's scope actually being about far more than that; please read WP:POVFORK, and as I said there is little to be salvaged here. And really it's a fork of non-existing right now Petty gentry of Eastern Galicia article or something of the sort. Marcelus ( talk) 16:39, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Disputes over page content are usually not dealt with by deleting the page, except in severe cases. This is not a severe case. The article needs a lot of work and probably an NPOV tag, not deletion. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 13:41, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Non-notable DOS video game. Natg 19 ( talk) 20:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
From a Google Translate of the "Reception" section:電玩雜誌《CGW》中文版認為《炎龍騎士團外傳》在劇情結構、配樂品質有著不錯的表現,[3]但是在創新度與前作《炎龍騎士團2》相比無太大變化,且有遊戲存檔方面的臭蟲、程式的人工智慧不佳、操作手冊編寫有錯誤等問題,[4]整體表現僅給予五顆星中的兩顆星評價。[3] 而《新遊戲時代》雜誌則評析《炎龍騎士團外傳》有著華麗、不遜於電視遊樂器的戰鬥畫面,不過缺乏更新一步的創新內容,[2]整體表現拿下79分的評價。[5]
The Chinese version of the video game magazine "CGW" believes that "The Story of the Yanlong Knights" has a good performance in the plot structure and soundtrack quality,[3] but compared with the previous work "The Yanlong Knights 2" in terms of innovation, there is not much change, and There are bugs in the game save, poor artificial intelligence in the program, and errors in the operation manual. [4] The overall performance is only rated two out of five stars. [3] The "New Game Era" magazine commented that "The Legend of the Yanlong Knights" has a gorgeous battle screen that is not inferior to a video game console, but lacks newer innovative content. [2] The overall performance scored 79 points. [5]
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind ( traditional Chinese: 炎龍騎士團 外傳: 風之紋章; simplified Chinese: 炎龙骑士团 外传: 风之纹章) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Based on a before search, not finding anything that indicates this band is notable. Fails WP:NBAND and WP:GNG. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Claims of a lack of available source material were not refuted. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:JUDGE as a former lawyer and judge of a non-statewide court. Let'srun ( talk) 15:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. As this is due to lack of participation, there is no prejudice against speedy renomination. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:46, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Sourcing not improved since the previous two nominations. Sources are either press releases, not significant coverage, or a bunch of quotes from the founder and hence not independent content. Consider salting so we don't end up here yet again. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:08, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Liscannor#John P. Holland Centre. Rough consensus that the article should not exist in mainspace. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 ( t • c) 13:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Small/private non-notable museum. There is no indication that this museum meets WP:SIGCOV or WP:ORG. The sources we have (and, it seems, the only sources that are available at all) are blog/forum posts, the subject's own (dead?) website, perhaps(?) an undetermined/fleeting mention in a podcast and a phone-book style directory entry. A Google search, for example, returns only directory-style entries. And nothing covering the subject in any depth at all. As discussed on the article's talkpage, the only claims to notability seem to be that the person that it covers is notable. And that the road/drive on which it sits is also named for that person. Both or which fall under WP:NOTINHERITED. While the topic could, perhaps, be covered at Liscannor#Points_of_interest or John_Philip_Holland#Memorial, I personally don't support such a redirect. As either seems arbitrary. Guliolopez ( talk) 18:55, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Article is about a conlang that does not appear to pass WP:GNG. The article's references are either primary (LCC8, Korohtella, Davi Hanu, K'Slucj) or otherwise unusable (Wiktionary is user-edited, Langstuff is a self-published blog by someone with "no formal linguistic training or education of any kind or level", HCC times is a blog post by an undergraduate, the Shane Nichols source appears to be a class paper as no article by that name has ever appeared in the journal Syntax, and Frzzl is the page creator's personal website). The only potentially usable source is from the Language Museum, but that alone isn't enough for notability and I cannot find other independent discussion. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) Talk to Me! 21:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publicationsthen there could feasibly be an argument that it's reliable, but a single source isn't going to be enough to satisfy WP:GNG anyway. As far as moving sources around goes, we can do that all we want and there still wouldn't be enough
significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) Talk to Me! 06:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Yet another indiscriminate, unsourced list of works of fiction or fictional things that fails WP:LISTN. Deprodder cited the equivalent real-world list List of destroyed heritage, but that does not address the concerns about WP:IPC. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 21:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:ENT. references are rely on primary sources ~ 𝕂𝕒𝕡𝕦𝕕𝕒𝕟 ℙ𝕒ş𝕒 ( inbox - contribs) 19:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:50, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Page as is does not support notability, and I didn't find anything additional. Could be a matter of not having access to the right archives, so hopefully someone who does can give this a more definitive look. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 10:24, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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Association François-Xavier Bagnoud. Subject lacks in-depth coverage to meet the
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Relies on only two primary sources and could not find WP:SIGCOV for the article Teancum ( talk) 16:35, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Koby Israelite. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 07:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. References are not WP:IS. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:00, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:37, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:05, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
SourcesPeople are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
The article notes: "戴樂民,一個很地道的中文名字。但甫見其真人,他第一時間問道:「懂得說英文嗎?」最後,他還是用半鹹半淡的廣東話談了大半天。他是菲律賓樂手的後裔,叫做 Romeo Diaz,四、五十年代在香港出世。那時,他肯定沒想過,往後超過半個世紀,竟然成為了香港人,玩了一輩子音樂,從少年夾band到獲得香港電影金像獎最佳電影配樂獎項,至今他從來沒停止過五線譜的人生。Romeo 在香港土生土長,喜歡這裡的地道文化,極享受到廟街食煲仔飯、聽粵曲。"
From Google Translate: "Tai Lok-man, a very authentic Chinese name. But as soon as he saw the real person, he immediately asked, "Do you know how to speak English?" In the end, he talked in half-baked Cantonese for most of the day. He is a descendant of a Filipino musician called Romeo Diaz, who was born in Hong Kong in the 1940s and 1950s. At that time, he certainly never imagined that more than half a century later, he would become a native of Hong Kong and have been playing music all his life. He has never stopped playing music since he was a teenager and won the Best Film Score Award at the Hong Kong Film Awards. The life of staves. Romeo was born and raised in Hong Kong. He likes the authentic culture here. He enjoys eating claypot rice and listening to Cantonese opera in Temple Street."
The book notes: "其後 Romeo Diaz (即戴樂民,也稱羅迪) 轉做幕後,參與過不少電影的配 樂,尤其擅長為武俠電影配樂。1988 年,他憑電影《倩女幽魂》奪得第七屆 香港電影金像獎最佳音樂獎。1991年,他和顧嘉煇合作為電影《秦俑》配樂,再次奪得金像獎最佳音樂獎。次年,和黃霑合作的《黃飛鴻》又一次成為金像獎最佳音樂獎的贏家。"
From Google Translate: "Later Romeo Diaz (that is, Tai Lok-man, also known as Lo-dik) turned to work behind the scenes and participated in the soundtrack of many movies, especially good at scoring martial arts movies. In 1988, he won the Best Music Award at the 7th Hong Kong Film Awards for his movie "A Chinese Ghost Story". In 1991, he and Joseph Koo collaborated on the soundtrack of the film "Terracotta Warriors", and won the Best Music Award at the Academy Awards again. The following year, "Once Upon a Time" with James Wong Jim once again became the winner of the Best Music Award at the Academy Awards."
The book notes on page 207: "羅迪洋名 Romeo Diaz,是六十年代著名樂 隊 Danny Diaz & The Checkmates 三兄弟 之一,他的音樂非常洋化,這是為何《向前 行》與 Maneater 幾可亂真。他後來與黃霑在電影配樂上合作無間,也很懂中樂精華所在, 戴樂民正是他!"
From Google Translate: "Romeo Diaz, named Romeo Diaz, is one of the three brothers of the famous band Danny Diaz & The Checkmates in the 1960s. His music is very westernised, which is why "Forward" and Maneater are almost real. He later collaborated closely with James Wong Jim on film soundtracks, and he also understands the essence of Chinese music. Tai Lok-man is exactly him!"
The book notes on page 323: "至於編曲的羅迪,也是首次跟蔡楓華合作,他是六十年代樂隊 Danny Diaz & The Checkmates 三兄弟之一,也是 D'Topnotes 樂隊主音 Christine Samson 的丈夫 Romeo Diaz,八十年代回流香港為 「EMI」編曲,他另一中文名字是戴樂民,經常與黃霑及羅大佑合作電影配樂。"
From Google Translate: As for the arranger Lo-dik, it is also the first time he collaborated with Ken Choi. He is one of the three brothers of the band Danny Diaz & The Checkmates in the 1960s, and the husband of Christine Samson, the lead singer of the D'Topnotes band. In the 1980s, he returned to Hong Kong to arrange music for EMI. His other Chinese name is Tai Lok-man. He often collaborates with James Wong Jim and Lo Ta-yu on film soundtracks."
The podcast description notes: "戴樂民(Romeo Diaz) 是菲律賓樂手的後裔,四、五十年代在香港出世,是道地的香港人,玩了一輩子音樂,從少年夾band到獲得香港電影金像獎最佳電影配樂獎項,至今他從來沒停止過五線譜的人生。戴樂民與黃霑合作無間,為不少著名武俠電影配樂,如《倩女幽魂》、《秦俑》、《笑傲江湖》等等,屢獲殊榮。"
From Google Translate: "Romeo Diaz is a descendant of Filipino musicians. He was born in Hong Kong in the 1940s and 1950s. He is a native of Hong Kong and has played music all his life. So far he has never stopped his life of staves. Diaz and James Wong Jim have worked closely together and composed scores for many famous martial arts movies, such as "A Chinese Ghost Story", "The Terracotta Warriors", "Swordsman", etc., and won many awards."
The book covers Romy Diaz on pages 306–309. The book notes on page 307: "戴樂民多才多藝: Romy Diaz 的中文譯名,原本叫羅迪,一九八七年黃霑替他改名戴樂民,因為「他是音樂名家,叫做樂民也算適合」。以下短文,簡介戴樂民的出身和才藝。"
From Google Translate: "Tai Lok-man is multi-talented: The Chinese translation of Romy Diaz was originally Lo-dik. In 1987, James Wong Jim changed his name to Tai Lok-man because "he is a famous musician, and he is also suitable to be called Lok-man". The following short article introduces Tai Tai Lok-man's background and talent."
The book notes on page 308: "戴樂民是Romy Diaz 的新中文名字,黃霑改的,因為覺得他從前在EMI當音樂總監時的中文名不好。羅迪,像Rudy,多過像Romy。所以將他 Diaz 姓 氏,截取首音,譯為戴姓,再音譯Romy做樂民。他是音樂名家,叫做樂民也算 適合。認識了戴樂民不知多少年了。幾年前他從加國回港,我就找他編樂,一直 合作到今天。每次都合作得愉快之極,而且不但廣告歌合作得多,電影配樂也同 樣得心應手,幾乎可說,沒有了他我就手足無措。 據我所知,現在戴樂民在廣告行與電影音樂界,都十分搶手。看見他的才 華,大受行家讚賞,我心中高興得很。因為他實在是一流人物,半點也不放過的 Romy."
From Google Translate: "Tai Tai Lok-man is Romy Diaz's new Chinese name. James Wong Jim changed it when he was the music director at EMI because he thought Diaz's Chinese name was not good. Roddy, more like Rudy than Romy. Therefore, he intercepted the first sound of his surname Diaz, translated it into the surname Tai, and then transliterated Romy as Lok-man. He is a famous musician, so it is not appropriate to be called Lok-dik. I don't know how many years I have known Tai Lok-man. When he returned to Hong Kong from Canada a few years ago, I asked him to make music, and we have been cooperating until today. Every time I cooperate very happily, and not only cooperate more commercial songs, but also film soundtracks are also handy. It can almost be said that I would be at a loss without him. As far as I know, Tai Lok-man is very sought-after in the advertising industry and the film and music industry. Seeing that his talent was greatly appreciated by experts, I was very happy in my heart. Because he is really a first-class character, Romy who will not let it go."
The article notes: "Together with bands such as Sam Hui and the Lotus, and Teddy Robin and the Playboys, Diaz was a household name on the local music scene as the leader of the legendary Danny Diaz Trio, which he formed with brothers Romeo and Rudy in the 1970s. ... Romeo returned to Hong Kong and has since gained considerable success in the Canto-pop industry."
The article notes: "He's one of nine children and his brothers, Romeo and Rudy, played with him in both the Checkmates and the Danny Diaz Trio."
The article notes: "Danny Diaz, leader of what is probably the best musical group in Hongkong, is making plans to get out of town. Danny, whose group, the Danny Diaz Trio, entertains a steady and completely happy clientele nightly at the Captain's Bar of the Mandarin Hotel, plans to visit New York and Los Angeles next month. While he is there, he will try to make arrangements to move himself and his two brothers, Rudy and Romeo — who make up the other two-thirds of the trio to the United States. ... Although the youngest of the three Diaz brothers who make up the trio, Danny is unquestionably the leader, because, as one of his brothers once said "he's simply the best musician in the family." And when you come from a family like Danny's, that is really saying something. The Diaz clan is one of those Filipino families in which everybody has a good deal of talent. Danny is one of nine children, all of whom show great musical aptitude. His father is a professional musician, too."
The article notes: "Comedy is a very special art and its best left to comedians. Danny and the boys are wonderful musicians and they can easily streamline this act and simply let their musical ability speak for them. Romeo is superb on alto, flute and organ, Danny and Rudy sing and dance with tremendous fire and Michael Sampson on the drums (the plus) element in the group, works at his craft with almost maniacal fervour. Their repertoire is varied everything from and lively A Certain Smile which Johnny Mathis, made famous to Send in the Clowns, Steven Sondheim's big hit, to Glen Campbell's Rhinestone Cowboy. There is also plenty of calypso, a disco version of Never Can Say Goodbye and a show-stopping rendition of First Time Ever I Saw Your Face by Romeo on the alto. This was an excellent arrangement along the lines of something that Ray Coniff might have done. Romeo handles all the musical arrangements and clearly does a fine job."
The article notes: "Danny, the lead guitarist and super vocalist, Rudy, bass guitarist and vocalist, and Romeo, organist, pianist, saxo- phonist and flautist, are three of the sons raised by a Filipino family, whose household head was also a professional musician, They have virtually worked all of their musical lives in Hong Kong, reaping considerable fame in Southeast Asia when they won a contemporary music contest, The Battle of the Sounds, staged by Levi's in a football stadium, with $10,000 and trips around the world for the winners. They were known as Danny Diaz and the Checkmates in their contest days, ultimately became a trio which played at the Mandarin Hotel in Hong Kong from early 1969 until April of 1973. ... A convincing piece amidst all of this is Joy, by Bach, a fine instrumental built mostly around Romeo's work on organ and flute."
The caption verifies that Romeo Diaz was born in 1948 or 1949. The caption notes: "Looking at home with a rickshaw at Marble Arch, London, are Danny Diaz and the Checkmates, a Hongkong pop group on a visit to this country. The group comprises three brothers, Danny Diaz (19), in the rickshaw; Romeo Diaz (20), in shafts; and Rudi Diaz (21), right; and Domingo Tantengco."
The article notes: "to the oddly disco-tinged scoring of Romeo Diaz, one of the film's four credited composers — he has done similar honors for Just Heroes, the Chinese Ghost Story's, Bullet in the Head, and the Once Upon A Time in China series"
The book notes: "... 的《雲飛飛》,作曲的是 Romeo Diaz (曾用的中文名有「羅迪」、「戴樂民」,是地道香港人,卻也是菲律賓樂師的後代)。"
From Google Translate: "... "Yun Fei Fei", composed by Romeo Diaz (the Chinese names he used were "Lo-dik" and "Tai Lok-man", he is a native of Hong Kong, but he is also a descendant of Filipino musicians)."
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The result was merge to International rugby league in 2022. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Following comment on original discussion that all referenced content must be moved to the appropriate article, I am reopening this discussion (in AfD as advised) as that has now been done for this page. CONCERN: Information here is just a copy of International rugby league in 2017 and has no unique information. Pacific games don't need there own page per size split policy. Please also see deletion discussion for Pacific Rugby League International. Mn1548 ( talk) 17:50, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was moot, speedydeleted. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 18:14, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Unsourced, unnotable ( Wikipedia:Notability (web)), and somewhat promotional. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 17:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Rough consensus that the expansion is sufficient to merit a keep. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 ( t • c) 13:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:NOLY and WP:SPORTSCRIT. There appears to be a NZ police officer of the same name which could be him, but coverage doesn't satisfy WP:SIGCOV. LibStar ( talk) 05:48, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; additionally we've got plenty of decent coverage from the Taranaki Daily News, which shows a pass of WP:SPORTCRIT, which makes no disqualifications for those which cover police careers (and several of those also cover his Olympic career as well), only for databases, which does not apply here. Pinging those who !voted delete prior to the substantial expansion and uncovering of sources: @ Tails Wx, Go4thProsper, and NotAGenious: BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Blair Telford, 4m clear at one stage for NPOB, appeared to slow up at the line and look over his right shoulder and South Brighton's Anthony Dorreen nipped in the left-hand side to steal the gold.Repeating a hundred such primary recaps and prosifying event stats is not an encyclopedia article.None of the Taranaki Daily News pieces are about his sports career. If we were to go off the secondary sourcing that actually has substance, this would be an article about the administrative changes across four years in the career of a rural police chief. Should we also have articles on Telford's predecessor Fiona Prestidge, who has received at least as much coverage [15] [16] for her own career transitions? Or Telford's successors? JoelleJay ( talk) 20:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; i.e. the sources do not have to be SIGCOV to demonstrate notability, provided that the sources we do have are enough to write a decent-sized biography. I wasn't arguing notability based on The Press sources alone, but them combined along with all the other sources, which provide enough to paint a detailed picture of his life and fulfill the purpose of being an encyclopedia. As for
None of the Taranaki Daily News pieces are about his sports career, I would disagree; the first one I clicked on, actually has 200 words on him and mentions how he
has returned to the pinnacle of world sports ... Telford, appointed area commander in January 2011, is one of a handful of New Zealand police working at the Games. He was a New Zealand representative in the bobsled at the 1988 Winter Olympics which were held in Calgary– of course, the coverage covering someone doesn't have to cover a certain aspect of someone's life to count towards notability, as long as there's a topic that's reasonably encyclopedic. Additionally, you state that
If we were to go off the secondary sourcing that actually has substance, this would be an article about the administrative changes across four years in the career of a rural police chief, but there is no requirement anywhere that we must only get text from sources that cover someone in-depth – that's what WP:NBASIC is for. Also, on your point
Should we also have articles on Telford's predecessor Fiona Prestidge, who has received at least as much coverage for her own career transitions? Or Telford's successors?– See WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 21:10, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
And the point of mentioning other police chiefs is to highlight the utter absurdity of applying your exact standards of coverage (and ignoring of NOTNEWS) to all subjects– I'm not applying the same standards of coverage to all of them; in fact, I would probably suggest deleting some of the other police chiefs if all the notability they had was holding said position: the thing is, were they all Olympians too? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 22:19, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
"" "Chch women surfers shine" (stats):Blair Telford: Aged 22. New Plymouth. Four-man bob, crewman, two-man bob, reserve. Former leading surf life-saver.
"" "Six from Canterbury picked for surf test" (routine announcement/roster):3. Junior: B. Telford (New Plymouth Old Boys), 1
The Age, "Experience pays off for surf team" (routine event recap):B. Telford (N.P.O.B.)
The Press, "Surfing" (stats):But the close runner-up in both the sprint and flags events was World representative, Blair Telford, from New Plymouth in New Zealand. Telford, 18, had never before competed at the senior level in the flags event, but missed the Gold medal at Ocean Grove by a whisker. In the sprint, he pushed Peters closer than anybody else has for several years and led him for most of the 100 metres.
. "" "Taylor's Mistake takes third at surf titles" (routine event recap):Blair Telford (NZ)
News Hub, "Beijing Winter Olympics: New Zealand at Winter Olympics 1952-2022" (list):Blair Telford, 4m clear at one stage for N.P.O.B., appeared to slow up at the line and look over his right shoulder and South Brighton's Anthony Dorreen nipped in the left-hand side to steal the gold.
The Press, "Nine chosen for Calgary" (routine announcement/roster):Blair Telford (bobsled)
. "" "Sprinter in bobsled team" (list):Blair Telford
"" "Kiwis finish training" (announcement/roster):a leading surf life-saver, Blair Telford
"" "Caribbean Cup to NZ pair" (event recap):...the reserve team of Owen Pinnell and Blair Telford
So please tell me how these ~150 words of independent coverage, almost 1/3 of which are just straight stats/rosters with the rest exclusively from primary event recaps, justify the nearly 600 words dedicated to Telford's sports career?? JoelleJay ( talk) 22:54, 6 September 2023 (UTC)Pinnell and crew, Blair Telford, thirty-first
An article should not give undue weight to minor aspects of its subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject. For example, a description of isolated events, quotes, criticisms, or news reports related to one subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic. This is a concern especially for recent events that may be in the news.This is policy. Namedrops and passing mentions in a series of rosters/stats/recaps, especially when they're almost all from one newspaper, emphatically do not deserve coverage in an article. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:33, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject. If we don't have IRS to support the importance of this aspect relative to other aspects, it is not acceptable to emphasize it in the article. If all the sourcing says about his Olympic appearance is
Blair Telford: Aged 22. New Plymouth. Four-man bob, crewman, two-man bob, reserve. Former leading surf life-saver.
Blair Telford (bobsled)
Blair Telford
with all but the second from one local publication, then clearly we do not have sufficient coverage to warrant more than a brief mention in the article. JoelleJay ( talk) 19:11, 7 September 2023 (UTC)a leading surf life-saver, Blair Telford
The fact that no journalists have written secondary prose directly on him and his sports accomplishments is strong evidence that those aspects are not noteworthy- that is one very big assumption. And it's likely a wrong assumption. Telford had his sporting peak in the late 1980s. There is exactly one New Zealand newspaper available online - The Press based in Christchurch (online up to 30 December 1989) - that covers that period. That The Press doesn't have anything extensive about him is of little surprise given that Telford was from New Plymouth; that's not even on the same island. There may very well be lengthy stuff available for him; we simply don't know about it as it's a matter of going to the relevant library and searching through microfiche records. I would be very surprised if the Taranaki Herald did not do some in-depth reporting on Telford back in 1988. Schwede 66 01:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Further, I'd note that the article "Kiwis finish training" says:"Telford's tenacity exemplified the enthusiasm and determination of the World team, despite their lack of experience in Australian conditions."
Moreover, the article "Caribbean Cup to NZ pair" discusses in some depth the discarded third run of Owen Pinnell in the two-man bobsled event at Calgary. It should be noted that Pinnell was the driver of the two-man bobsled in which Telford was the brakeman, so that the following excerpt also applies to Telford:"...the reserve team of Owen Pinnell and Blair Telford finished five days of official practice runs yesterday afternoon and will wait until the draw for the competition is made this morning. It is now likely that the second bobsleigh team will be allowed to compete in the actual two-day competion this week-end after providing satisfactory results in recent days."
Paora ( talk) 10:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)"Pinnell was bemused, the victim of a draw which, in normal circumstances, should have been of great benefit to him. Starting last on the first day, he bore the brunt of a deteriorating track and lost at least two seconds. On Monday, he slid down the track in a time of 58.86 seconds to record the fastest time of 27 starters before the day’s competition was cancelled. Yesterday, when the competition was restarted Pinnell was again first away in the field, but ironically the ice track was slower than usual at the start and his time was almost three seconds slower, a problem the first dozen or so sledders faced before the track began to get faster. Pinnell says this is one of the oddities that sometimes happens in bobsledding, and it was most unfortunate that it had to happen in the Olympics. He says that while he is disappointed in finishing thirty-first, he is happy to have finished where he did considering the track conditions."
The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 17:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
WP:BLP of a musician, not properly referenced as passing WP:NMUSIC. The notability claim here is that he and his work exist, with no indication of any particular distinctions such as awards or chart success, and the referencing is parked almost entirely on unreliable sources that are not support for notability -- fully half of the footnotes here are to discogs.com directory entries, and then there's promotional content self-published by himself or his own record label, blogs and Q&A interviews in which he's talking about himself in the first person -- literally the only thing here that comes close to being acceptable support for notability (Flood) is a short blurb, not substantive enough to singlehandedly carry passage of GNG all by itself if all of the other sourcing around it is junk. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have better referencing than this. Bearcat ( talk) 16:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Eddie891 Talk Work 17:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 15:52, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to Republic of Artsakh. Please do not suggest a Merge or Redirect to a non-existent article. That's impossible for a closer to do. Liz Read! Talk! 23:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG: no reliable sources, only a single non-neutral primary source cited after two and a half years of editing. — Michael Z. 15:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of Sirius XM Radio channels#Former channels. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Subject lacks WP:SIGCOV as a defunct satellite radio station. No opposition for a redirect to List of Sirius XM Radio channels#Former channels, where the subject is mentioned. Let'srun ( talk) 15:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Bit of a terminological issue here, but ultimately this should be merged with Raisin. BenKuykendall ( talk) 15:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 14:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails to meet WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. He has directed, produced, and written several films that do not meet notability criteria. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 14:19, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 14:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Does not seem to meet WP:N(E) or GNG, a search on google books bring zero results for a Battle of Kelmendi article is an orphan, none of the sources mention a significant battle but clashes, engagements or skirmishes that took place between 1624 and 1638 (already mentioned on the Kelmendi and Nora of Kelmendi articles) as well as content from a legendary folktale. No historical significance & no sufficient sourcing for a standalone article. Wafflesvarog ( talk) 13:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Eldon Garnet. ✗ plicit 14:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Unsourced since 2004. No indication of notability. Only sources I could find were clearly copied from Wikipedia or just confirmed the statue's existence. Even if it's notable, it can't be sourced. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Subject does not pass WP:GNG. Is a case of WP:BLP1E as the winner of a minor beauty pageant. Let'srun ( talk) 13:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Subject is a case of WP:BLP1E as a winner of a minor beauty pageant, and does not meet WP:GNG. Let'srun ( talk) 12:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of DC Comics characters: K. ✗ plicit 13:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Barely sourced obscure DC comics character. All plot. Fails WP:GNG, search results mainly return references to Batman: Knightfall. Kleuske ( talk) 11:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:05, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Questionable notability - the National Wrestling League itself does not have a Wikipedia name, nor do many of the wrestlers who held the titles. McPhail ( talk) 10:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:05, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Questionable notability - the National Wrestling League itself does not have a Wikipedia name, nor do many of the wrestlers who held the title. McPhail ( talk) 10:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy delete. CSD A7 Liz Read! Talk! 21:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Autobiography moved from draft after decline, fails WP:GNG nothing to suggest they are notable, zero independent, reliable sources. Theroadislong ( talk) 10:52, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:BIO. References are profiles, PR and interviews. scope_creep Talk 10:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Mojo Hand ( talk) 23:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable fictional character. References is WP:PRIMARY and routine annoucements. scope_creep Talk 09:03, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Gorillaz. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:02, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable. References are WP:PRIMARY and profiles and social media. No real sourcing. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 09:02, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
There is some groundwork to build a reception section from out there. The GScholar links provide a few hits like "'The Digital Won't Let Me Go': Constructions of the Virtual and the Real in Gorillaz' 'Clint Eastwood'" published in Journal of Popular Music Studies and the book Pop Music and Easy Listening, where Johnson spends well over WP:100W (an essay, I know, but a measurement I find sufficient) discussing the "techno Orientalism" anthropomorphized by Noodle on pp 18-19. Also "Virtual pop: gender, ethnicity, and identity in virtual bands and vocaloid", apparently unpublished, but worth scholarly analysis for a PhD thesis that has been cited at least four times, where Stark dedicates the entire Chapter 5 to discussing Noodle outside of the mentions in the greater discussion. Also, GBooks gives a good hit in Chapter 9 "'Feel Good' with Gorillaz and 'Reject False Icons'" from The Oxford Handbook of Music and Virtuality where Rambarran has a 1.5-2 pg section dedicated to discussing Noodle outside the greater analysis on Noodle's part in the song.
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 07:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 07:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Keep: She was in 475 episodes of a show referenced, surely this role is enough to pass WP:NACTOR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiwatyPhillipines ( talk • contribs) 14:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Another HC2/Innovate LPTV with no significant coverage to meet the GNG. Note that the apparent short history of the station is actually a bit misleading; it was actually first granted as the digital companion channel for an analog WDID-LP… but an article we had on that was deleted at AfD in 2020 for a similar lack of notability and coverage (and all indications are the history of only carrying national services, with no local programming, has continued). (Which thus makes this the third nomination for this station, as it was part of the failed bulk nomination of many HC2/Innovate station articles earlier this year; soft deletion is completely off the table here.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 05:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Does not meet the notability requirement; NBIO. Furthermore, the page was created by an editor who was barred due to their involvement in editing for promotional purposes, which contradicted the conflict of interest and notability guidelines. RPSkokie ( talk) 06:23, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Ages of Man. Content can be merged at editorial discretion. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 14:06, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Article is slightly incoherent, completely unsourced, and much of the text is a rather non-encyclopedic summary of a Greek Myth where the phrase "silver age" is used offhandedly.
I'm open if other users with more expertise feel that there is indeed enough material out there for this page to exist on it's own, but I'd like to propose deletion and/or for the article to be merged as a blurb on the Golden Age article. A MINOTAUR ( talk) 14:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
operated within a wider context of myths of the ages and reinterpreted them to fit his own objectives, pointing to
[e]vidence for earlier myths of the ages [which] has been found in Persian, Hebrew, and Vedic sources. Meisner gives several examples, citing these to West's The East Face of Helicon; looking at West, he appears to devote pp. 312–9 to this topic, which includes discussion of the silver age on its own. Meisner's book is on the topic of Orphic literature, and so discusses this in the context of the three races (gold, silver, Titanic) in the Orphic Rhapsodic Theogony, recorded by the Neoplatonist Proclus; the fragment of Proclus in question is a highly significant one, and Meisner devotes a fair portion of his discussion to the silver race, pointing out another two fragments (one from Proclus, one from Plutarch) which talk about the silver race specifically, as well as quoting West's The Orphic Poems, which talks about how the role of Cronus is altered from the Hesiodic narrative (i.e. he is demoted from gold to silver). To this can be added the interpretation of the ages by Proclus (in terms of his Neoplatonic schema), the interpretations of Hesiod's five ages by modern scholars, and, in Meisner's words, the
ancient authors from Plato to Juvenal [who] engaged with the Hesiodic myth of the ages, reworking the myth in their own ways that reflected their own interests, all the while making “implicit evaluations and creative interpretations” of Hesiod; Meisner points out Aratus as one significant example. I think there is definitely an article worth having here, and I think there is enough to be said about the silver age specifically to keep this separate from Ages of Man; I would be very much opposed to any suggestion that the Greek mythological details should simply be deleted. – Michael Aurel ( talk) 05:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. There is a clear consensus that this is not an appropriate topic for a standalone article. While some interest was expressed in merging, it was not clear what the appropriate target would be, or indeed if such even exists. If a consensus is reached for where material should be merged and there's still interest in doing that, let me know and I'm happy to facilitate that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:09, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm nominating this article for deletion as it doesn't appear to meet
WP:GNG and possibly
WP:V too. I've reviewed the references and the only reliable source that has a non-trivial mention of the product is The Enquirer Inquirer (
WP:SIGCOV). There's no reliable evidence other than this eight year old article that the product even exists, as their web page no longer seems active. At the very least, this doesn't meet
WP:NSUSTAINED.
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The result was redirect to University of Kerala. Just wanted to add that this is the typical closure for an academic department or institute. It takes exceptional notability to warrant a stand-alone article. Existence is not sufficient. Liz Read! Talk! 04:37, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Has never cited any secondary sources, no evidence of notability * Pppery * it has begun... 04:05, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Institute_of_Management_in_Kerala | This is a mirror of the Wikipedia page | ✘ No | ||
https://admissions.keralauniversity.ac.in/mba2023/mba_imk | This page is run by the university | This is a login-in portal | ✘ No | |
https://www.university.youth4work.com/imk_institute-of-management-in-kerala | ? | ? | Despite listing basic information about the Institute, this coverage is WP:Routine, basically a directory entry. | ✘ No |
https://www.shiksha.com/college/institute-of-management-in-kerala-university-of-kerala-thiruvananthapuram-20273 | ? | ? | Again, a routine directory entry. | ✘ No |
https://lawyerservices.in/Dr-KS-Chandrasekar-and-Others-Versus-The-Chancellor-University-of-Kerala-Thiruvananthapuram-and-Others-2023-03-24 | ? | This legal judgement does not mention the institute. I'm not sure what the proposed relevance is. | ✘ No | |
https://www.thestatesman.com/india | This news article expands on the legal case above. It pertains to withdrawing the nomination of the heads of the Institute of Management and departments of Music, Sanskrit and Philosophy as Ex-Officio members of Kerala University Senate.However, further information about the institute itself is not present, and WP:NOTINHERITED. |
✘ No | ||
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The subject earned at least three caps for the Latvia women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:13, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The subject has earned three caps for the Latvia women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:11, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 04:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least one cap for the El Salvador women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 04:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least three caps for the El Salvador women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:02, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Miss Vermont. Liz Read! Talk! 21:30, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
This subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NBEAUTY. Let'srun ( talk) 01:04, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
NN. Advert. fails GNG. Graywalls ( talk) 02:50, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 02:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
With only one film that has been released, an article seems premature and WP:TOOSOON. Per WP:FILMSERIES, a film series should not have its own article until it encompasses at least three films. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 02:45, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Lakhisarai. Liz Read! Talk! 02:53, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Laheriasarai is not a city or town. This articles don't have any real sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tera baap randi ( talk • contribs) 14:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 02:12, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Unclear notability. Draft declined. We now have one source from Dread Central that is RS, the rest aren't; the reviews appear from a WordPress and another site. I'm not seeing mentions in enough RS to keep the article. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Merge if @
Oaktree b: is okay with the sources on the prequel
Yeti: A Love Storys page. The sources on the prequel's page don't look that great, imo.
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The result was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G5. ✗ plicit 06:33, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 01:46, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 00:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Not a useful list as per WP:LISTN. I see no possible use for this, beyond having 250,000 entries and people arguing about introduction dates. Mr.choppers | ✎ 00:42, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Bringing this to AfD as Speedy was declined. Very little sourcing found (links are described but not linked to online sources). What I've been able to track down is this [50], minimal coverage in a local newspaper. Bringing this to AfD to discuss, most filler used in the article talks about patents and the like, which don't add to notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
No sourcing found in RS. What's used to source the article is press-releases and lists in Forbes, nothing talking about the individual at length. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The subject has earned at least two caps for the Zimbabwe women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 23:50, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Article was blanked and redirected back in 2011, but term is not mentioned at redirect target. Not sure if a stand-alone article is appropriate, or if there is content that can be merged, or if deletion is the best course of action. Another possibility is to redirect to TVNZ#Conflicts, where it is mentioned. Mdewman6 ( talk) 23:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:28, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Could not find significant coverage to meet WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 23:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedied G5 by User:Girth Summit. Bearcat ( talk) 16:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. The Global Kashmir source is a rehash of a press release, The Kashmir Despatch is a single-line passing mention. Two sources are for groups and have minimal or no mention. The final source is an interview in a language I don't speak, but interviews are generally iffy for notability and the context isn't directly about the person, but seems to be a political piece to boast of projects from the party in power (where they are a youth group leader). Several aspects of their career are unsourced. Ravensfire ( talk) 23:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:45, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Reviewed during new page patrol No indication of notability under either GNG or SNG. The only references are two brief coverage of draft items. Has been tagged as such since May 2023 with no additions. North8000 ( talk) 22:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
band whose only notability is based on having two former members of Paramore, and they never even released music. Should be merged with the Farro brothers articles All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha ( talk) 22:51, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:02, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Mossad#Alleged operations. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Propose merging into List of Israeli assassinations. Most of the operations listed on this page are covered on the latter page, and many of the links are redirects to either the larger assassination page or to the Mossad main page. For those bullets that are intelligence operations (eg capture of Khrushchev's speech), they can be merged into the main Mossad article. Longhornsg ( talk) 21:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Obvious WP:Content forking of articles Ruthenian nobility and Szlachta. The article seems to be written in a very one-sided manner, with a clear goal: most of the nobility in Galicia had Ukrainian ancestry from time immemorial, i.e. from the early Middle Ages, and despite "Polonization" they always remained Ukrainian. This statement is, of course, fundamentally false, because the history of the formation of the noble state is much more complicated, involving a large influx of nobles from Poland, the ruthenization of nobles of Polish origin, the Polonization of nobles of Ruthenian origin, the influx of people from Romania, Germany, Hungary and so on.
The article, by the way, is based largely on the writings of Ukrainian researcher Lubov Slivka, who has promoted precisely this way of seeing the issue, which has been criticized by other researchers. Polish researcher Konrad Rzemieniecki wrote in his review of her work: Summing up the book itself, one can say that the author approached the research with a preconceived thesis and selected sources under this thesis. If one were to reverse the selection of sources and rely mainly on Roman Catholic metric books, materials of only Polish social organizations and interviews only with Polish representatives of the Galician petty gentry, one could easily show that most of the petty gentry were part of the Polish nation.
The article contains sentences that are downright false: Western Ukrainian nobles enjoyed the legal rights and privileges of other nobles. They had their own court system and unlike Ukrainian peasants were not under the authority of the Polish landlords. - suggests that there was a legal separation between Polish and Ukrainian nobles, which isn't true since 1430 when Red Ruthenia was fully incorporated into the Polish Crown. The elected heads of self-governing Ukrainian noble communities were called prefects. - there was no such office in PLC as prefect. Unlike Ukrainian peasants, Ukrainian nobles worked on their own lands and were not forced to work for the Polish nobility. They enjoyed their own court system and were not under the authority of local Polish-dominated courts. - again article suggests that there was a legal separation between Polish and Ukrainian nobles, this time in Austro-Hungary, which isn't true. In contrast to the Polish nobles who had owned serfs, the Ukrainian nobles did not experience economic losses when serfdom was abolished. - the article suggests that "wealthy noble = Pole, poor noble = Ukrainian" or that only Polish nobles were so evil to own serfs; reality wasn't that simple. These are just examples.
The article generally focuses on Polish-Ukrainian relations, we will not learn much about, for example, the relationship with the Austrian government during the partition period, the relationship with Russia, the Soviet Union. The position of the descendants of this social group in modern Ukraine, etc.
Moreover, the title itself is unclear. The use of the term "Galicia" suggests the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, an Austrian administrative unit. But the article focuses on the eastern part of it. Moreover, there is no mention of nobility, but rather of petty nobility. I believe that the article in its current state and in this view does not meet the requirements, those parts that meet the requirements should be combined with Ruthenian nobility.
Of course, the subject of Ukrainian nobility or Petty gentry in Galicia itself is worth describing, but not in this form and impartially. Marcelus ( talk) 21:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Each group lived in different parts of Galicia. So his criticism doesn't make much sense. The scope of her work (and of this article) isn't about all gentry in Eastern Galicia but only the Ukrainian ones specifically; This is what the fallacy of the article is all about. These groups were not separate, and their identities were complex. I am able to imagine an article Petty gentry in Eastern Galicia that would describe the subject honestly. But the current take is pure WP:NATIONALISM. Marcelus ( talk) 09:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Ethnic group does not stem from another ethnic group), I will say that specifying this sentence is a) rather tangential to what is being written about in this article or b) even worse, a case of WP:NPOV by Marcelus wanting to prioritize the Polish origins section as truth over the Ukrainian or East Slavic origins. As of now, both are equally presented in the section Origins. Both sections are presented with attributing statements, so I would not consider it as some NPOV text that must be removed due to it contradicting Wiki policy because it does not contradict Wiki policy as all potentially biased opinions seem to be attributed. Also, addressing the roots of a specific group is not necessarily nationalism - writing that Canadians are not descended from Belgians but instead from other groups is not a case of nationalist POV, so why would pointing out the East Slavic roots of Ukrainian nobles be nationalist? What Marcelus is saying is highly questionable.
even worse, a case of WP:NPOV by Marcelus wanting to prioritize the Polish origins section as truth over the Ukrainian or East Slavic origins; that's an obvious misinterpretation of my words, I never advocated for such thing. On the contrary, I object to the categorical, POV views, presented in the article, that the petty gentry in Galicia was purely "biologically" Ruthenian/Ukrainian. The truth is that it was mixed, with many families coming from central Poland or other countries and regions.
As of now, both are equally presented in the section Origins; this section is an exceptional POV. It contrasts the obvious strawman of "Polish historians of the 1930s" as preachers of false theses, with the position of "modern Ukrainian historians" who easily refute their theses. The conclusion is clear: the petty nobility in Ukraine has always been fully Ruthenian/Ukrainian. I don't know how one can fail to see the fallacy in this section.
I am more ambiguous about whether this is a WP:CFORK. This article is 40 kB, while the Ruthenian nobility is <28 kB. Putting the content of this article into the Ruthenian nobility would give the latter an overly heavy focus on a very limited region in Ukraine compared to the Ruthenian nobility article's scope actually being about far more than that; please read WP:POVFORK, and as I said there is little to be salvaged here. And really it's a fork of non-existing right now Petty gentry of Eastern Galicia article or something of the sort. Marcelus ( talk) 16:39, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Disputes over page content are usually not dealt with by deleting the page, except in severe cases. This is not a severe case. The article needs a lot of work and probably an NPOV tag, not deletion. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 13:41, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable DOS video game. Natg 19 ( talk) 20:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
From a Google Translate of the "Reception" section:電玩雜誌《CGW》中文版認為《炎龍騎士團外傳》在劇情結構、配樂品質有著不錯的表現,[3]但是在創新度與前作《炎龍騎士團2》相比無太大變化,且有遊戲存檔方面的臭蟲、程式的人工智慧不佳、操作手冊編寫有錯誤等問題,[4]整體表現僅給予五顆星中的兩顆星評價。[3] 而《新遊戲時代》雜誌則評析《炎龍騎士團外傳》有著華麗、不遜於電視遊樂器的戰鬥畫面,不過缺乏更新一步的創新內容,[2]整體表現拿下79分的評價。[5]
The Chinese version of the video game magazine "CGW" believes that "The Story of the Yanlong Knights" has a good performance in the plot structure and soundtrack quality,[3] but compared with the previous work "The Yanlong Knights 2" in terms of innovation, there is not much change, and There are bugs in the game save, poor artificial intelligence in the program, and errors in the operation manual. [4] The overall performance is only rated two out of five stars. [3] The "New Game Era" magazine commented that "The Legend of the Yanlong Knights" has a gorgeous battle screen that is not inferior to a video game console, but lacks newer innovative content. [2] The overall performance scored 79 points. [5]
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind ( traditional Chinese: 炎龍騎士團 外傳: 風之紋章; simplified Chinese: 炎龙骑士团 外传: 风之纹章) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Based on a before search, not finding anything that indicates this band is notable. Fails WP:NBAND and WP:GNG. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Claims of a lack of available source material were not refuted. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:JUDGE as a former lawyer and judge of a non-statewide court. Let'srun ( talk) 15:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. As this is due to lack of participation, there is no prejudice against speedy renomination. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:46, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Sourcing not improved since the previous two nominations. Sources are either press releases, not significant coverage, or a bunch of quotes from the founder and hence not independent content. Consider salting so we don't end up here yet again. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:08, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Liscannor#John P. Holland Centre. Rough consensus that the article should not exist in mainspace. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 ( t • c) 13:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Small/private non-notable museum. There is no indication that this museum meets WP:SIGCOV or WP:ORG. The sources we have (and, it seems, the only sources that are available at all) are blog/forum posts, the subject's own (dead?) website, perhaps(?) an undetermined/fleeting mention in a podcast and a phone-book style directory entry. A Google search, for example, returns only directory-style entries. And nothing covering the subject in any depth at all. As discussed on the article's talkpage, the only claims to notability seem to be that the person that it covers is notable. And that the road/drive on which it sits is also named for that person. Both or which fall under WP:NOTINHERITED. While the topic could, perhaps, be covered at Liscannor#Points_of_interest or John_Philip_Holland#Memorial, I personally don't support such a redirect. As either seems arbitrary. Guliolopez ( talk) 18:55, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Article is about a conlang that does not appear to pass WP:GNG. The article's references are either primary (LCC8, Korohtella, Davi Hanu, K'Slucj) or otherwise unusable (Wiktionary is user-edited, Langstuff is a self-published blog by someone with "no formal linguistic training or education of any kind or level", HCC times is a blog post by an undergraduate, the Shane Nichols source appears to be a class paper as no article by that name has ever appeared in the journal Syntax, and Frzzl is the page creator's personal website). The only potentially usable source is from the Language Museum, but that alone isn't enough for notability and I cannot find other independent discussion. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) Talk to Me! 21:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publicationsthen there could feasibly be an argument that it's reliable, but a single source isn't going to be enough to satisfy WP:GNG anyway. As far as moving sources around goes, we can do that all we want and there still wouldn't be enough
significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) Talk to Me! 06:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Yet another indiscriminate, unsourced list of works of fiction or fictional things that fails WP:LISTN. Deprodder cited the equivalent real-world list List of destroyed heritage, but that does not address the concerns about WP:IPC. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 21:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:ENT. references are rely on primary sources ~ 𝕂𝕒𝕡𝕦𝕕𝕒𝕟 ℙ𝕒ş𝕒 ( inbox - contribs) 19:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:50, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Page as is does not support notability, and I didn't find anything additional. Could be a matter of not having access to the right archives, so hopefully someone who does can give this a more definitive look. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 10:24, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Relies on only two primary sources and could not find WP:SIGCOV for the article Teancum ( talk) 16:35, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Koby Israelite. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 07:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:37, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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SourcesPeople are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
The article notes: "戴樂民,一個很地道的中文名字。但甫見其真人,他第一時間問道:「懂得說英文嗎?」最後,他還是用半鹹半淡的廣東話談了大半天。他是菲律賓樂手的後裔,叫做 Romeo Diaz,四、五十年代在香港出世。那時,他肯定沒想過,往後超過半個世紀,竟然成為了香港人,玩了一輩子音樂,從少年夾band到獲得香港電影金像獎最佳電影配樂獎項,至今他從來沒停止過五線譜的人生。Romeo 在香港土生土長,喜歡這裡的地道文化,極享受到廟街食煲仔飯、聽粵曲。"
From Google Translate: "Tai Lok-man, a very authentic Chinese name. But as soon as he saw the real person, he immediately asked, "Do you know how to speak English?" In the end, he talked in half-baked Cantonese for most of the day. He is a descendant of a Filipino musician called Romeo Diaz, who was born in Hong Kong in the 1940s and 1950s. At that time, he certainly never imagined that more than half a century later, he would become a native of Hong Kong and have been playing music all his life. He has never stopped playing music since he was a teenager and won the Best Film Score Award at the Hong Kong Film Awards. The life of staves. Romeo was born and raised in Hong Kong. He likes the authentic culture here. He enjoys eating claypot rice and listening to Cantonese opera in Temple Street."
The book notes: "其後 Romeo Diaz (即戴樂民,也稱羅迪) 轉做幕後,參與過不少電影的配 樂,尤其擅長為武俠電影配樂。1988 年,他憑電影《倩女幽魂》奪得第七屆 香港電影金像獎最佳音樂獎。1991年,他和顧嘉煇合作為電影《秦俑》配樂,再次奪得金像獎最佳音樂獎。次年,和黃霑合作的《黃飛鴻》又一次成為金像獎最佳音樂獎的贏家。"
From Google Translate: "Later Romeo Diaz (that is, Tai Lok-man, also known as Lo-dik) turned to work behind the scenes and participated in the soundtrack of many movies, especially good at scoring martial arts movies. In 1988, he won the Best Music Award at the 7th Hong Kong Film Awards for his movie "A Chinese Ghost Story". In 1991, he and Joseph Koo collaborated on the soundtrack of the film "Terracotta Warriors", and won the Best Music Award at the Academy Awards again. The following year, "Once Upon a Time" with James Wong Jim once again became the winner of the Best Music Award at the Academy Awards."
The book notes on page 207: "羅迪洋名 Romeo Diaz,是六十年代著名樂 隊 Danny Diaz & The Checkmates 三兄弟 之一,他的音樂非常洋化,這是為何《向前 行》與 Maneater 幾可亂真。他後來與黃霑在電影配樂上合作無間,也很懂中樂精華所在, 戴樂民正是他!"
From Google Translate: "Romeo Diaz, named Romeo Diaz, is one of the three brothers of the famous band Danny Diaz & The Checkmates in the 1960s. His music is very westernised, which is why "Forward" and Maneater are almost real. He later collaborated closely with James Wong Jim on film soundtracks, and he also understands the essence of Chinese music. Tai Lok-man is exactly him!"
The book notes on page 323: "至於編曲的羅迪,也是首次跟蔡楓華合作,他是六十年代樂隊 Danny Diaz & The Checkmates 三兄弟之一,也是 D'Topnotes 樂隊主音 Christine Samson 的丈夫 Romeo Diaz,八十年代回流香港為 「EMI」編曲,他另一中文名字是戴樂民,經常與黃霑及羅大佑合作電影配樂。"
From Google Translate: As for the arranger Lo-dik, it is also the first time he collaborated with Ken Choi. He is one of the three brothers of the band Danny Diaz & The Checkmates in the 1960s, and the husband of Christine Samson, the lead singer of the D'Topnotes band. In the 1980s, he returned to Hong Kong to arrange music for EMI. His other Chinese name is Tai Lok-man. He often collaborates with James Wong Jim and Lo Ta-yu on film soundtracks."
The podcast description notes: "戴樂民(Romeo Diaz) 是菲律賓樂手的後裔,四、五十年代在香港出世,是道地的香港人,玩了一輩子音樂,從少年夾band到獲得香港電影金像獎最佳電影配樂獎項,至今他從來沒停止過五線譜的人生。戴樂民與黃霑合作無間,為不少著名武俠電影配樂,如《倩女幽魂》、《秦俑》、《笑傲江湖》等等,屢獲殊榮。"
From Google Translate: "Romeo Diaz is a descendant of Filipino musicians. He was born in Hong Kong in the 1940s and 1950s. He is a native of Hong Kong and has played music all his life. So far he has never stopped his life of staves. Diaz and James Wong Jim have worked closely together and composed scores for many famous martial arts movies, such as "A Chinese Ghost Story", "The Terracotta Warriors", "Swordsman", etc., and won many awards."
The book covers Romy Diaz on pages 306–309. The book notes on page 307: "戴樂民多才多藝: Romy Diaz 的中文譯名,原本叫羅迪,一九八七年黃霑替他改名戴樂民,因為「他是音樂名家,叫做樂民也算適合」。以下短文,簡介戴樂民的出身和才藝。"
From Google Translate: "Tai Lok-man is multi-talented: The Chinese translation of Romy Diaz was originally Lo-dik. In 1987, James Wong Jim changed his name to Tai Lok-man because "he is a famous musician, and he is also suitable to be called Lok-man". The following short article introduces Tai Tai Lok-man's background and talent."
The book notes on page 308: "戴樂民是Romy Diaz 的新中文名字,黃霑改的,因為覺得他從前在EMI當音樂總監時的中文名不好。羅迪,像Rudy,多過像Romy。所以將他 Diaz 姓 氏,截取首音,譯為戴姓,再音譯Romy做樂民。他是音樂名家,叫做樂民也算 適合。認識了戴樂民不知多少年了。幾年前他從加國回港,我就找他編樂,一直 合作到今天。每次都合作得愉快之極,而且不但廣告歌合作得多,電影配樂也同 樣得心應手,幾乎可說,沒有了他我就手足無措。 據我所知,現在戴樂民在廣告行與電影音樂界,都十分搶手。看見他的才 華,大受行家讚賞,我心中高興得很。因為他實在是一流人物,半點也不放過的 Romy."
From Google Translate: "Tai Tai Lok-man is Romy Diaz's new Chinese name. James Wong Jim changed it when he was the music director at EMI because he thought Diaz's Chinese name was not good. Roddy, more like Rudy than Romy. Therefore, he intercepted the first sound of his surname Diaz, translated it into the surname Tai, and then transliterated Romy as Lok-man. He is a famous musician, so it is not appropriate to be called Lok-dik. I don't know how many years I have known Tai Lok-man. When he returned to Hong Kong from Canada a few years ago, I asked him to make music, and we have been cooperating until today. Every time I cooperate very happily, and not only cooperate more commercial songs, but also film soundtracks are also handy. It can almost be said that I would be at a loss without him. As far as I know, Tai Lok-man is very sought-after in the advertising industry and the film and music industry. Seeing that his talent was greatly appreciated by experts, I was very happy in my heart. Because he is really a first-class character, Romy who will not let it go."
The article notes: "Together with bands such as Sam Hui and the Lotus, and Teddy Robin and the Playboys, Diaz was a household name on the local music scene as the leader of the legendary Danny Diaz Trio, which he formed with brothers Romeo and Rudy in the 1970s. ... Romeo returned to Hong Kong and has since gained considerable success in the Canto-pop industry."
The article notes: "He's one of nine children and his brothers, Romeo and Rudy, played with him in both the Checkmates and the Danny Diaz Trio."
The article notes: "Danny Diaz, leader of what is probably the best musical group in Hongkong, is making plans to get out of town. Danny, whose group, the Danny Diaz Trio, entertains a steady and completely happy clientele nightly at the Captain's Bar of the Mandarin Hotel, plans to visit New York and Los Angeles next month. While he is there, he will try to make arrangements to move himself and his two brothers, Rudy and Romeo — who make up the other two-thirds of the trio to the United States. ... Although the youngest of the three Diaz brothers who make up the trio, Danny is unquestionably the leader, because, as one of his brothers once said "he's simply the best musician in the family." And when you come from a family like Danny's, that is really saying something. The Diaz clan is one of those Filipino families in which everybody has a good deal of talent. Danny is one of nine children, all of whom show great musical aptitude. His father is a professional musician, too."
The article notes: "Comedy is a very special art and its best left to comedians. Danny and the boys are wonderful musicians and they can easily streamline this act and simply let their musical ability speak for them. Romeo is superb on alto, flute and organ, Danny and Rudy sing and dance with tremendous fire and Michael Sampson on the drums (the plus) element in the group, works at his craft with almost maniacal fervour. Their repertoire is varied everything from and lively A Certain Smile which Johnny Mathis, made famous to Send in the Clowns, Steven Sondheim's big hit, to Glen Campbell's Rhinestone Cowboy. There is also plenty of calypso, a disco version of Never Can Say Goodbye and a show-stopping rendition of First Time Ever I Saw Your Face by Romeo on the alto. This was an excellent arrangement along the lines of something that Ray Coniff might have done. Romeo handles all the musical arrangements and clearly does a fine job."
The article notes: "Danny, the lead guitarist and super vocalist, Rudy, bass guitarist and vocalist, and Romeo, organist, pianist, saxo- phonist and flautist, are three of the sons raised by a Filipino family, whose household head was also a professional musician, They have virtually worked all of their musical lives in Hong Kong, reaping considerable fame in Southeast Asia when they won a contemporary music contest, The Battle of the Sounds, staged by Levi's in a football stadium, with $10,000 and trips around the world for the winners. They were known as Danny Diaz and the Checkmates in their contest days, ultimately became a trio which played at the Mandarin Hotel in Hong Kong from early 1969 until April of 1973. ... A convincing piece amidst all of this is Joy, by Bach, a fine instrumental built mostly around Romeo's work on organ and flute."
The caption verifies that Romeo Diaz was born in 1948 or 1949. The caption notes: "Looking at home with a rickshaw at Marble Arch, London, are Danny Diaz and the Checkmates, a Hongkong pop group on a visit to this country. The group comprises three brothers, Danny Diaz (19), in the rickshaw; Romeo Diaz (20), in shafts; and Rudi Diaz (21), right; and Domingo Tantengco."
The article notes: "to the oddly disco-tinged scoring of Romeo Diaz, one of the film's four credited composers — he has done similar honors for Just Heroes, the Chinese Ghost Story's, Bullet in the Head, and the Once Upon A Time in China series"
The book notes: "... 的《雲飛飛》,作曲的是 Romeo Diaz (曾用的中文名有「羅迪」、「戴樂民」,是地道香港人,卻也是菲律賓樂師的後代)。"
From Google Translate: "... "Yun Fei Fei", composed by Romeo Diaz (the Chinese names he used were "Lo-dik" and "Tai Lok-man", he is a native of Hong Kong, but he is also a descendant of Filipino musicians)."
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The result was merge to International rugby league in 2022. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Following comment on original discussion that all referenced content must be moved to the appropriate article, I am reopening this discussion (in AfD as advised) as that has now been done for this page. CONCERN: Information here is just a copy of International rugby league in 2017 and has no unique information. Pacific games don't need there own page per size split policy. Please also see deletion discussion for Pacific Rugby League International. Mn1548 ( talk) 17:50, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was moot, speedydeleted. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 18:14, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Unsourced, unnotable ( Wikipedia:Notability (web)), and somewhat promotional. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 17:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Rough consensus that the expansion is sufficient to merit a keep. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 ( t • c) 13:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:NOLY and WP:SPORTSCRIT. There appears to be a NZ police officer of the same name which could be him, but coverage doesn't satisfy WP:SIGCOV. LibStar ( talk) 05:48, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; additionally we've got plenty of decent coverage from the Taranaki Daily News, which shows a pass of WP:SPORTCRIT, which makes no disqualifications for those which cover police careers (and several of those also cover his Olympic career as well), only for databases, which does not apply here. Pinging those who !voted delete prior to the substantial expansion and uncovering of sources: @ Tails Wx, Go4thProsper, and NotAGenious: BeanieFan11 ( talk) 17:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Blair Telford, 4m clear at one stage for NPOB, appeared to slow up at the line and look over his right shoulder and South Brighton's Anthony Dorreen nipped in the left-hand side to steal the gold.Repeating a hundred such primary recaps and prosifying event stats is not an encyclopedia article.None of the Taranaki Daily News pieces are about his sports career. If we were to go off the secondary sourcing that actually has substance, this would be an article about the administrative changes across four years in the career of a rural police chief. Should we also have articles on Telford's predecessor Fiona Prestidge, who has received at least as much coverage [15] [16] for her own career transitions? Or Telford's successors? JoelleJay ( talk) 20:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; i.e. the sources do not have to be SIGCOV to demonstrate notability, provided that the sources we do have are enough to write a decent-sized biography. I wasn't arguing notability based on The Press sources alone, but them combined along with all the other sources, which provide enough to paint a detailed picture of his life and fulfill the purpose of being an encyclopedia. As for
None of the Taranaki Daily News pieces are about his sports career, I would disagree; the first one I clicked on, actually has 200 words on him and mentions how he
has returned to the pinnacle of world sports ... Telford, appointed area commander in January 2011, is one of a handful of New Zealand police working at the Games. He was a New Zealand representative in the bobsled at the 1988 Winter Olympics which were held in Calgary– of course, the coverage covering someone doesn't have to cover a certain aspect of someone's life to count towards notability, as long as there's a topic that's reasonably encyclopedic. Additionally, you state that
If we were to go off the secondary sourcing that actually has substance, this would be an article about the administrative changes across four years in the career of a rural police chief, but there is no requirement anywhere that we must only get text from sources that cover someone in-depth – that's what WP:NBASIC is for. Also, on your point
Should we also have articles on Telford's predecessor Fiona Prestidge, who has received at least as much coverage for her own career transitions? Or Telford's successors?– See WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 21:10, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
And the point of mentioning other police chiefs is to highlight the utter absurdity of applying your exact standards of coverage (and ignoring of NOTNEWS) to all subjects– I'm not applying the same standards of coverage to all of them; in fact, I would probably suggest deleting some of the other police chiefs if all the notability they had was holding said position: the thing is, were they all Olympians too? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 22:19, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
"" "Chch women surfers shine" (stats):Blair Telford: Aged 22. New Plymouth. Four-man bob, crewman, two-man bob, reserve. Former leading surf life-saver.
"" "Six from Canterbury picked for surf test" (routine announcement/roster):3. Junior: B. Telford (New Plymouth Old Boys), 1
The Age, "Experience pays off for surf team" (routine event recap):B. Telford (N.P.O.B.)
The Press, "Surfing" (stats):But the close runner-up in both the sprint and flags events was World representative, Blair Telford, from New Plymouth in New Zealand. Telford, 18, had never before competed at the senior level in the flags event, but missed the Gold medal at Ocean Grove by a whisker. In the sprint, he pushed Peters closer than anybody else has for several years and led him for most of the 100 metres.
. "" "Taylor's Mistake takes third at surf titles" (routine event recap):Blair Telford (NZ)
News Hub, "Beijing Winter Olympics: New Zealand at Winter Olympics 1952-2022" (list):Blair Telford, 4m clear at one stage for N.P.O.B., appeared to slow up at the line and look over his right shoulder and South Brighton's Anthony Dorreen nipped in the left-hand side to steal the gold.
The Press, "Nine chosen for Calgary" (routine announcement/roster):Blair Telford (bobsled)
. "" "Sprinter in bobsled team" (list):Blair Telford
"" "Kiwis finish training" (announcement/roster):a leading surf life-saver, Blair Telford
"" "Caribbean Cup to NZ pair" (event recap):...the reserve team of Owen Pinnell and Blair Telford
So please tell me how these ~150 words of independent coverage, almost 1/3 of which are just straight stats/rosters with the rest exclusively from primary event recaps, justify the nearly 600 words dedicated to Telford's sports career?? JoelleJay ( talk) 22:54, 6 September 2023 (UTC)Pinnell and crew, Blair Telford, thirty-first
An article should not give undue weight to minor aspects of its subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject. For example, a description of isolated events, quotes, criticisms, or news reports related to one subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic. This is a concern especially for recent events that may be in the news.This is policy. Namedrops and passing mentions in a series of rosters/stats/recaps, especially when they're almost all from one newspaper, emphatically do not deserve coverage in an article. JoelleJay ( talk) 16:33, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject. If we don't have IRS to support the importance of this aspect relative to other aspects, it is not acceptable to emphasize it in the article. If all the sourcing says about his Olympic appearance is
Blair Telford: Aged 22. New Plymouth. Four-man bob, crewman, two-man bob, reserve. Former leading surf life-saver.
Blair Telford (bobsled)
Blair Telford
with all but the second from one local publication, then clearly we do not have sufficient coverage to warrant more than a brief mention in the article. JoelleJay ( talk) 19:11, 7 September 2023 (UTC)a leading surf life-saver, Blair Telford
The fact that no journalists have written secondary prose directly on him and his sports accomplishments is strong evidence that those aspects are not noteworthy- that is one very big assumption. And it's likely a wrong assumption. Telford had his sporting peak in the late 1980s. There is exactly one New Zealand newspaper available online - The Press based in Christchurch (online up to 30 December 1989) - that covers that period. That The Press doesn't have anything extensive about him is of little surprise given that Telford was from New Plymouth; that's not even on the same island. There may very well be lengthy stuff available for him; we simply don't know about it as it's a matter of going to the relevant library and searching through microfiche records. I would be very surprised if the Taranaki Herald did not do some in-depth reporting on Telford back in 1988. Schwede 66 01:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Further, I'd note that the article "Kiwis finish training" says:"Telford's tenacity exemplified the enthusiasm and determination of the World team, despite their lack of experience in Australian conditions."
Moreover, the article "Caribbean Cup to NZ pair" discusses in some depth the discarded third run of Owen Pinnell in the two-man bobsled event at Calgary. It should be noted that Pinnell was the driver of the two-man bobsled in which Telford was the brakeman, so that the following excerpt also applies to Telford:"...the reserve team of Owen Pinnell and Blair Telford finished five days of official practice runs yesterday afternoon and will wait until the draw for the competition is made this morning. It is now likely that the second bobsleigh team will be allowed to compete in the actual two-day competion this week-end after providing satisfactory results in recent days."
Paora ( talk) 10:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)"Pinnell was bemused, the victim of a draw which, in normal circumstances, should have been of great benefit to him. Starting last on the first day, he bore the brunt of a deteriorating track and lost at least two seconds. On Monday, he slid down the track in a time of 58.86 seconds to record the fastest time of 27 starters before the day’s competition was cancelled. Yesterday, when the competition was restarted Pinnell was again first away in the field, but ironically the ice track was slower than usual at the start and his time was almost three seconds slower, a problem the first dozen or so sledders faced before the track began to get faster. Pinnell says this is one of the oddities that sometimes happens in bobsledding, and it was most unfortunate that it had to happen in the Olympics. He says that while he is disappointed in finishing thirty-first, he is happy to have finished where he did considering the track conditions."
The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 17:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
WP:BLP of a musician, not properly referenced as passing WP:NMUSIC. The notability claim here is that he and his work exist, with no indication of any particular distinctions such as awards or chart success, and the referencing is parked almost entirely on unreliable sources that are not support for notability -- fully half of the footnotes here are to discogs.com directory entries, and then there's promotional content self-published by himself or his own record label, blogs and Q&A interviews in which he's talking about himself in the first person -- literally the only thing here that comes close to being acceptable support for notability (Flood) is a short blurb, not substantive enough to singlehandedly carry passage of GNG all by itself if all of the other sourcing around it is junk. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have better referencing than this. Bearcat ( talk) 16:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Eddie891 Talk Work 17:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 15:52, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to Republic of Artsakh. Please do not suggest a Merge or Redirect to a non-existent article. That's impossible for a closer to do. Liz Read! Talk! 23:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:GNG: no reliable sources, only a single non-neutral primary source cited after two and a half years of editing. — Michael Z. 15:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of Sirius XM Radio channels#Former channels. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Subject lacks WP:SIGCOV as a defunct satellite radio station. No opposition for a redirect to List of Sirius XM Radio channels#Former channels, where the subject is mentioned. Let'srun ( talk) 15:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Bit of a terminological issue here, but ultimately this should be merged with Raisin. BenKuykendall ( talk) 15:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 14:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails to meet WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. He has directed, produced, and written several films that do not meet notability criteria. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 14:19, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 14:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Does not seem to meet WP:N(E) or GNG, a search on google books bring zero results for a Battle of Kelmendi article is an orphan, none of the sources mention a significant battle but clashes, engagements or skirmishes that took place between 1624 and 1638 (already mentioned on the Kelmendi and Nora of Kelmendi articles) as well as content from a legendary folktale. No historical significance & no sufficient sourcing for a standalone article. Wafflesvarog ( talk) 13:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Eldon Garnet. ✗ plicit 14:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Unsourced since 2004. No indication of notability. Only sources I could find were clearly copied from Wikipedia or just confirmed the statue's existence. Even if it's notable, it can't be sourced. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 13:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Subject does not pass WP:GNG. Is a case of WP:BLP1E as the winner of a minor beauty pageant. Let'srun ( talk) 13:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 13:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Subject is a case of WP:BLP1E as a winner of a minor beauty pageant, and does not meet WP:GNG. Let'srun ( talk) 12:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of DC Comics characters: K. ✗ plicit 13:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Barely sourced obscure DC comics character. All plot. Fails WP:GNG, search results mainly return references to Batman: Knightfall. Kleuske ( talk) 11:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:05, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Questionable notability - the National Wrestling League itself does not have a Wikipedia name, nor do many of the wrestlers who held the titles. McPhail ( talk) 10:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 12:05, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Questionable notability - the National Wrestling League itself does not have a Wikipedia name, nor do many of the wrestlers who held the title. McPhail ( talk) 10:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy delete. CSD A7 Liz Read! Talk! 21:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Autobiography moved from draft after decline, fails WP:GNG nothing to suggest they are notable, zero independent, reliable sources. Theroadislong ( talk) 10:52, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 12:06, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:BIO. References are profiles, PR and interviews. scope_creep Talk 10:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Mojo Hand ( talk) 23:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable fictional character. References is WP:PRIMARY and routine annoucements. scope_creep Talk 09:03, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Gorillaz. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:02, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Non-notable. References are WP:PRIMARY and profiles and social media. No real sourcing. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 09:02, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
There is some groundwork to build a reception section from out there. The GScholar links provide a few hits like "'The Digital Won't Let Me Go': Constructions of the Virtual and the Real in Gorillaz' 'Clint Eastwood'" published in Journal of Popular Music Studies and the book Pop Music and Easy Listening, where Johnson spends well over WP:100W (an essay, I know, but a measurement I find sufficient) discussing the "techno Orientalism" anthropomorphized by Noodle on pp 18-19. Also "Virtual pop: gender, ethnicity, and identity in virtual bands and vocaloid", apparently unpublished, but worth scholarly analysis for a PhD thesis that has been cited at least four times, where Stark dedicates the entire Chapter 5 to discussing Noodle outside of the mentions in the greater discussion. Also, GBooks gives a good hit in Chapter 9 "'Feel Good' with Gorillaz and 'Reject False Icons'" from The Oxford Handbook of Music and Virtuality where Rambarran has a 1.5-2 pg section dedicated to discussing Noodle outside the greater analysis on Noodle's part in the song.
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 07:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 07:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Keep: She was in 475 episodes of a show referenced, surely this role is enough to pass WP:NACTOR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiwatyPhillipines ( talk • contribs) 14:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Another HC2/Innovate LPTV with no significant coverage to meet the GNG. Note that the apparent short history of the station is actually a bit misleading; it was actually first granted as the digital companion channel for an analog WDID-LP… but an article we had on that was deleted at AfD in 2020 for a similar lack of notability and coverage (and all indications are the history of only carrying national services, with no local programming, has continued). (Which thus makes this the third nomination for this station, as it was part of the failed bulk nomination of many HC2/Innovate station articles earlier this year; soft deletion is completely off the table here.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 05:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Does not meet the notability requirement; NBIO. Furthermore, the page was created by an editor who was barred due to their involvement in editing for promotional purposes, which contradicted the conflict of interest and notability guidelines. RPSkokie ( talk) 06:23, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Ages of Man. Content can be merged at editorial discretion. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 14:06, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Article is slightly incoherent, completely unsourced, and much of the text is a rather non-encyclopedic summary of a Greek Myth where the phrase "silver age" is used offhandedly.
I'm open if other users with more expertise feel that there is indeed enough material out there for this page to exist on it's own, but I'd like to propose deletion and/or for the article to be merged as a blurb on the Golden Age article. A MINOTAUR ( talk) 14:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
operated within a wider context of myths of the ages and reinterpreted them to fit his own objectives, pointing to
[e]vidence for earlier myths of the ages [which] has been found in Persian, Hebrew, and Vedic sources. Meisner gives several examples, citing these to West's The East Face of Helicon; looking at West, he appears to devote pp. 312–9 to this topic, which includes discussion of the silver age on its own. Meisner's book is on the topic of Orphic literature, and so discusses this in the context of the three races (gold, silver, Titanic) in the Orphic Rhapsodic Theogony, recorded by the Neoplatonist Proclus; the fragment of Proclus in question is a highly significant one, and Meisner devotes a fair portion of his discussion to the silver race, pointing out another two fragments (one from Proclus, one from Plutarch) which talk about the silver race specifically, as well as quoting West's The Orphic Poems, which talks about how the role of Cronus is altered from the Hesiodic narrative (i.e. he is demoted from gold to silver). To this can be added the interpretation of the ages by Proclus (in terms of his Neoplatonic schema), the interpretations of Hesiod's five ages by modern scholars, and, in Meisner's words, the
ancient authors from Plato to Juvenal [who] engaged with the Hesiodic myth of the ages, reworking the myth in their own ways that reflected their own interests, all the while making “implicit evaluations and creative interpretations” of Hesiod; Meisner points out Aratus as one significant example. I think there is definitely an article worth having here, and I think there is enough to be said about the silver age specifically to keep this separate from Ages of Man; I would be very much opposed to any suggestion that the Greek mythological details should simply be deleted. – Michael Aurel ( talk) 05:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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00:37, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting. But I'm leaning towards a Merge to
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Relisting comment: Relisting discussion. Although I was nudging towards a Merge, the comments made to that suggestion were that this was obvious the 2nd choice for editors arguing to Keep this article. I didn't appreciate the strong sentiments of those editors so I'm relisting this discussion, with the knowledge that there is also support for a Merge.
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05:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. There is a clear consensus that this is not an appropriate topic for a standalone article. While some interest was expressed in merging, it was not clear what the appropriate target would be, or indeed if such even exists. If a consensus is reached for where material should be merged and there's still interest in doing that, let me know and I'm happy to facilitate that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:09, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm nominating this article for deletion as it doesn't appear to meet
WP:GNG and possibly
WP:V too. I've reviewed the references and the only reliable source that has a non-trivial mention of the product is The Enquirer Inquirer (
WP:SIGCOV). There's no reliable evidence other than this eight year old article that the product even exists, as their web page no longer seems active. At the very least, this doesn't meet
WP:NSUSTAINED.
99% fad-free (
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09:47, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
--- Tito Pao ( talk) 10:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to University of Kerala. Just wanted to add that this is the typical closure for an academic department or institute. It takes exceptional notability to warrant a stand-alone article. Existence is not sufficient. Liz Read! Talk! 04:37, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Has never cited any secondary sources, no evidence of notability * Pppery * it has begun... 04:05, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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Source assessment table:
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https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Institute_of_Management_in_Kerala | This is a mirror of the Wikipedia page | ✘ No | ||
https://admissions.keralauniversity.ac.in/mba2023/mba_imk | This page is run by the university | This is a login-in portal | ✘ No | |
https://www.university.youth4work.com/imk_institute-of-management-in-kerala | ? | ? | Despite listing basic information about the Institute, this coverage is WP:Routine, basically a directory entry. | ✘ No |
https://www.shiksha.com/college/institute-of-management-in-kerala-university-of-kerala-thiruvananthapuram-20273 | ? | ? | Again, a routine directory entry. | ✘ No |
https://lawyerservices.in/Dr-KS-Chandrasekar-and-Others-Versus-The-Chancellor-University-of-Kerala-Thiruvananthapuram-and-Others-2023-03-24 | ? | This legal judgement does not mention the institute. I'm not sure what the proposed relevance is. | ✘ No | |
https://www.thestatesman.com/india | This news article expands on the legal case above. It pertains to withdrawing the nomination of the heads of the Institute of Management and departments of Music, Sanskrit and Philosophy as Ex-Officio members of Kerala University Senate.However, further information about the institute itself is not present, and WP:NOTINHERITED. |
✘ No | ||
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The subject earned at least three caps for the Latvia women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:13, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
The subject has earned three caps for the Latvia women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:11, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 04:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least one cap for the El Salvador women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. Liz Read! Talk! 04:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to List of El Salvador women's international footballers. The subject has earned at least three caps for the El Salvador women's national football team. I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources, failing WP:GNG. JTtheOG ( talk) 04:02, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Miss Vermont. Liz Read! Talk! 21:30, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
This subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NBEAUTY. Let'srun ( talk) 01:04, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
NN. Advert. fails GNG. Graywalls ( talk) 02:50, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 02:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
With only one film that has been released, an article seems premature and WP:TOOSOON. Per WP:FILMSERIES, a film series should not have its own article until it encompasses at least three films. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 02:45, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was merge to Lakhisarai. Liz Read! Talk! 02:53, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Laheriasarai is not a city or town. This articles don't have any real sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tera baap randi ( talk • contribs) 14:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 02:12, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Unclear notability. Draft declined. We now have one source from Dread Central that is RS, the rest aren't; the reviews appear from a WordPress and another site. I'm not seeing mentions in enough RS to keep the article. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Merge if @
Oaktree b: is okay with the sources on the prequel
Yeti: A Love Storys page. The sources on the prequel's page don't look that great, imo.
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02:37, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G5. ✗ plicit 06:33, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 01:46, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. ✗ plicit 00:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Not a useful list as per WP:LISTN. I see no possible use for this, beyond having 250,000 entries and people arguing about introduction dates. Mr.choppers | ✎ 00:42, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Bringing this to AfD as Speedy was declined. Very little sourcing found (links are described but not linked to online sources). What I've been able to track down is this [50], minimal coverage in a local newspaper. Bringing this to AfD to discuss, most filler used in the article talks about patents and the like, which don't add to notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 00:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
No sourcing found in RS. What's used to source the article is press-releases and lists in Forbes, nothing talking about the individual at length. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)