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The result was delete. Looks like this one fails a wide variety of things - RS, N, FICTION, etc. If there is something in the article that someone wants to merge, ping me and I'll copy it over to your userspace. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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This article fails to establish notability. There is no particular reason to retain such a minor fictional element. TTN ( talk) 22:46, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was Keep but discuss a move. On the one hand, the WP:GNG-based keep claims are well taken and most people don't appear to be convinced that WP:NOTMEMORIAL would justify deletion here (I am also a little unsure what "there's already a perfectly good WP:NOT which applies here" refers to). And as pointed out the "one event" policies and guidelines allow for a repurposing of a noncompliant article in lieu of deletion. On the other hand, the WP:BLP1E (i.e the individual is not notable) arguments are also well taken and a number of people have suggested that a move would be appropriate although I note there is no unanimity on the issue. There was also some discussion of a merge and of a second AFD if no WP:LASTING coverage emerged; these didn't get much discussion but can perhaps be considered outside/after this AFD. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 10:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Julie Berman (transgender activist)

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WP:BIO1E of a person whose only stated or sourced indication of notability is a two-day blip of media coverage upon her death. As always, people are not automatically notable just because their death made it into the news -- if that were how it worked, we would have to keep an article about every single person who ever died in a car accident or a house fire or a workplace safety incident. But there's no other discernible claim of preexisting notability in life here: she's stated as an "activist", but the only evidence of activism being presented is that she volunteered for the local community centre, which is not "inherently" notable work in and of itself. And I checked both Google and ProQuest to find older coverage that might bolster her notability, but was completely unable to find a single piece of reliable source coverage about her, in any context whatsoever, prior to the death blip. Wikipedia is not a free platform for memorializing everybody who ever died, but there's just not enough substance, or enough sourcing for anything apart from her death itself, to deem her notable enough for permanent coverage in an international encyclopedia — the notability test for activists is not automatically passed just because the article and/or its sources use the word "activist", but requires properly sourceable evidence of significant and noteworthy and externally-reported-upon accomplishments as an activist. Bearcat ( talk) 22:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep and potentially rename to "Murder of Julie Berman" per WP:BLP1E and User:Clovermoss below; Comment - I haven't formed an opinion yet, but I object to the premise that someone must have demonstrated notability prior to their death for the facts of their death to be valid or relevant. This isn't someone who died randomly in a car accident or house fire; this is someone who was murdered, and for whom there is widespread (even international) concern that her murder is related to her prior advocacy work. Said advocacy may only have gotten news coverage because she died, but it seems clear why the Toronto LGBT+ community (and the LGBT+ community writ large) is treating her death as notable; here's some specific information about her:
    From Globalnews.ca (also picked up in From CBC.ca):
    She had helped out with various events at The 519, an LGBTQ charity in Toronto, over the last 30 years, they said. "Berman worked on the charity’s Trans Access project, an education program that focused on needs in the trans community.

    Julie has suffered violence in the past and it’s important that we remember her advocacy in openly willing to talk about what happens inside the trans community, and her ability to advocate for rights of all members, that made the community better,” said Olivia Nuamah, the executive director of Pride Toronto."

    From CNN:

    Two years ago, Berman served on the center's organizing committee for the Transgender Day of Remembrance, an international event that memorializes transgender people killed in transphobic attacks over the past year.

    At the 2017 vigil, Berman spoke out on anti-transgender violence, and mourned people she knew who had been killed, according to Susan Gapka, an organizer and educator with The 519.

    I agree she's not notable for advocacy alone--sadly 30 years of noble and needed volunteer work, including Transgender Day of Remembrance organizing, does not make one notable--I believe it's important to focus on the actual reason she may or may not ultimately be notable, which is that she was an outspoken transgender rights advocate who was murdered, with much preliminary public discussion already over how much the two things are related. Shelbystripes ( talk) 06:32, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Updated above with !vote. I wouldn't be opposed to a 2nd AfD in a year or two if there's no WP:LASTING impact, but it's too early to make that call, and her death has gotten the sort of outsized international attention that (IMO) supports notability. Shelbystripes ( talk) 18:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Shelbystripes. If she is not notable, her death is. Since WP:BLP1E states that "the general rule is to cover the event, not the person", I would support the article title being changed to "Murder of Julie Berman" with the current title becoming a redirect. That said, I'm willing to change my !vote if someone can demonstrate her activism as notable in itself. Also, while there was increased coverage during those two days, more recent coverage exists. Some examples include: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Clovermoss (talk) 21:54, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Passes general notability guidelines. Missvain ( talk) 21:32, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete unfortunately, I have to agree with Bearcat's one event argument, and also bring up WP:NOTMEMORIAL, which as a part of WP:NOT trumps WP:GNG. I cannot find any coverage of her that isn't about her incredibly tragic murder, and even though there's more recent coverage it's all a part of the same event. I do have two hopes: 1) someone will find sources that shows she was notable before her death and we can keep this; 2) if not, that we can add her to a list, or somewhere else in the encyclopaedia, but unfortunately this should not be a standalone article at this time. But unfortunately the WP:NOT is spot on, and I agree with that. SportingFlyer T· C 00:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
As a comment, I don't think WP:NOTMEMORIAL is relevant here. No one commenting (that I'm aware of) knew the victim personally or is making arguments based on personal connections or feelings; the discussion is whether a victim of an internationally publicized murder is notable as such. There's no requirement that people achieve notability before their death, and there are many examples of an otherwise non-notable person's death making them notable enough for inclusion ( Matthew Shepard, Trayvon Martin, Death of Brian Wells, Emmett Till, Murder of James Craig Anderson, Jaime Zapata, etc.). I'm not saying Julie Berman is definitely notable like those, but I am saying that's the discussion, notability resulting from her death. WP:NOTMEMORIAL only requires the article subject must meet notability requirements. It doesn't say they had to be notable while they were alive. Shelbystripes ( talk) 19:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Well, discussing WP:NOTMEMORIAL's a bit of a red herring as there's already a perfectly good WP:NOT which applies here, but this is close to an obituary as written. I did a news search and all of the coverage is from around the time she passed :( but the event doesn't seem to have any lasting significance yet. All of the blue links you posted received by far and away significant coverage that I just don't see here yet. SportingFlyer T· C 11:24, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I'd support a merge to that page, considering all of the news articles on her were from late December. The fact it went international doesn't mean the event suddenly passes WP:NOTNEWS. I'm still hopeful we can find more information on her. SportingFlyer T· C 11:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Google searches are not reliable sources. Reliable sources are reliable sources. Sandstein 10:10, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Khelo India Youth Games 2020

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We don't have articles for the first two seasons of Khelo India Youth Games. This us about the third edition and it may not be necassary to keep a national junior level competition in the encyclopedia. It clearly fails WP:GNG. Abishe ( talk) 11:56, 9 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Many India media is covering it including Newspaper, Online, TV News etc it is youth games but have generated more coverage than National Games. The article should remain in wikipedia. ( talk) 17:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Clearly not notable on the basis of GNG. There is some discussion about whether WP:ARTIST-based notability exists, but there isn't a consensus on this and most people did not address it. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Auksė Miliukaitė

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Can a qualified user continue this process for me? I've looked at the sources cited in the article, and searched Google books and generally online, and there just doesn't seem to be anything justifying this individual as the subject of an article. The fact that the lead specifies her to be "emerging" is borne out by the fact that she doesn't seem to have done anything that would make her really "notable" per the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines. The only real achievements presented are that she had an exhibition at the Rooster Gallery, Vilnius, which is specifically for young Lithuanian artists that aren't established, and won a minor prize (unnamed) in 2007, since when it doesn't seem she's increased in notability at all. The other sites cited seem to be all based on the "young artists that may be big in the future" (collectgoodstuff.com claims to be "an inspiring platform and marketplace with a curated selection of emerging artists, new talents and unique art-related products. Our mission is to discover promising talents, work with outstanding artists on new collaborations and provide collectors with compelling artistic contents", i.e. promotion of works for their art sales site; art-bites.com gives a very similar spiel); since she hasn't yet reached that stage, nor is there any particular reason to assume that she definitely will, it seems to be putting the cart considerably before the horse to give her an article, certainly at this point. Thank you. 78.144.65.128 ( talk) 20:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Nomination on behalf of IP user. Tyw7 ( 🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then ( ping me) 22:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ David Eppstein:, I was ready to be swayed so I checked the Lewben Foundation out. Its information is hosted on the Lewben group site, a company " an integrated business services group whose companies provide their clients with asset and wealth management services". It seems to be a private collection housed in a company, which is not the exactly the same as a notable museum or gallery mentioned in WP:ARTIST 4 d). In face, it was only in 2015 that they decided to " present to the public for the first time part of (their) collection of contemporary international artists", at an art fair in Vilnius. I do see some other shows they have lent art to. In the end though it is a private collection; these have variable standards, based on how well they are staffed. Not sure about that one. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 19:07, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete art-bites.com is a website whose "primary concerns are to nurture and push our artists into new opportunities". It is owned and operated by The Rooster Gallery.
    galerija101.lt, I think, is the same as https://www.vdu.lt/en/about-vmu/cultural-activities/vmu-art-spaces-and-museums/gallery-101/ a university gallery. Since it's an interview and published by the gallery where she exhibited, it is not an independent source.
    7md.lt is an interview about a group of three painters that include Miliukaitė, but besides a number of images of her work, doesn't discuss her. The introduction mentions that the three are "still unknown".
    roostergallery.eu, per its own website: "represents the youngest generation."
    artnews.lt appears to be a press release for an exhibition at the Vytautas Magnus University Art Gallery 101 mentioned above, in 2013, when Miliukaitė was still in school.
    In summary, I see no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, and and artist who is still very much at the beginning of her career. It's too soon for an article. Vexations ( talk) 15:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:TOOSOON - this is admittedly an "emerging" young artist. No independent coverage. Bearian ( talk) 20:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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This is a non-notable residential building in New York City. Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable sources, failing WP:GNG. All references provided merely mention building announcing construction or as it relates to the new neighborhood- it's a random apartment building. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 21:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Udeoji Chukwuma Godfrey

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Article about a self-published singer, quite possibly autobiographical. No indication subject passes WP:MUSICBIO. Draftspace version was rejected at WP:AfC. SuperMarioMan ( Talk) 20:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Matt Jaissle

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I gave his name a search and it seems like he has made several mildly notable Z-films, but he does not appear to be notable himself. ★Trekker ( talk) 20:05, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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I believe I was the one who added this article originally. I do agree that he is not, at this time, notable enough to maintain on WP. I vote in favor of deletion. Cyberherbalist ( talk) 00:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. kingboyk ( talk) 13:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Wolf-Dieter Storl

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Unsourced and flagged since 2010. He's written some books but I'm not seeing significant third-party coverage. There's an Imbd listing of talkshow appearances, but again, that's the same problem as here - not RS and likely created as self-promotion. As no one has seen fit to improve it after ten years... - CorbieVreccan 19:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Looking at the German version, the largest sections of content are either unsourced, or only sourced to his own writings. - CorbieVreccan 22:49, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Indeed after another look, it is not as good at it first appeared. I think there is some German sources but Delete or Draftify as it stands. Mattg82 ( talk) 23:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:50, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was that he Does not appear to meet WP:NFOOTY. Yet to appear in a fully professional league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 19:25, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Fenix down ( talk) 08:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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BLP without decent references. Tells us how successful he is. Rathfelder ( talk) 18:57, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - no evidence of notability and not worth a redirect. Giant Snowman 13:17, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment – I'm abstaining, as this is out of my jurisdiction of subject matter expert-ness, but, I did find two sources that might help y'all out:
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The result was keep. Withdrawn by nom (non-admin closure) CatcherStorm talk 05:35, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

David M. Gilbert

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There are zero references and only two external links for this article, one of them being the professor's personal page at the FSU website. The other link makes no mention of the subject at all. CatcherStorm talk 17:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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 Comment: Per WP:PROF the subject of the article may be notable since the article claims he has won awards, but the external link to the professor's page may not be acceptable under WP:RS since the professor himself may have contributed to the page. CatcherStorm talk 17:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy keep Passes WP:PROF for holding a named chair and having been elected an AAAS Fellow (easily verified with the AAAS website, and now properly sourced in the article). Cleanup is required, but that's not what AfD is for. Links to professors' departmental or faculty webpages are commonplace on academic biographies. They are primary sources, but acceptable (generally, sources affiliated with an academic, like the university where they are employed, are suitable for uncontroversial claims, like the title they hold or the year they were hired). XOR'easter ( talk) 18:12, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Snow keep. Easy pass of WP:PROF#C1 (heavily cited publications on Google Scholar), #C3 (multiple society fellowships), and #C5 (named professorship). — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. And salt, given the history of Meade Skelton. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:51, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Meade Skelton (singer)

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An article about the same person, without the (unnecessary) disambiguator, was deleted following an AfD all the way back in 2005, but, as far as I can tell, was recreated several times over the following years before finally being protected... but that didn't stop this article from being recreated again under this name in 2017. Even without such a history, I don't feel the subject is notable at all, as Google failed to bring up any reliable non-primary sources other than the six already cited in the article, plus it seems the subject is only known for narcissistic behaviour in Internet forums back in the 2000s. ⓋᎯ☧ǿᖇǥ@ℤε 💬 16:57, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

List of GameHouse Original Stories

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A long list of non-notable video games, none with its own article. Sourced primarily by its publisher and digital distribution channels. WP:NOTCATALOG. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 16:54, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. It's up to editors whether to create a redirect, opinion is divided about this. But consensus is clearly not to keep this. I'm ignoring BOZ's pure vote as usual. Sandstein 10:14, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Seawolf (Dungeons & Dragons)

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Very minor, non-notable fictional creature. There are only a handful of primary sources being used. Searching for sources brings up plenty of results on the many other topics with the same name. However, the D&D version has nothing in reliable, secondary sources, meaning its a clear failure of the WP:GNG. Rorshacma ( talk) 16:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment - The issue is that there is a pattern where D&D articles that are simply redirected/merged, even if that was the result of consensus at a previous discussion, are restored by anonymous IPs later, forcing us to go through the whole procedure again. Deleting the article first, even if a Redirect is then created after, prevents this from occurring. Rorshacma ( talk) 00:50, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Couldn't we just ask for the pages to be protected to prevent that? ★Trekker ( talk) 01:17, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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One misspelt star wars charater and one other; does not seem necessary to me. TheLongTone ( talk) 16:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) hueman1 (talk) 15:57, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The page was moved to draftspace. hueman1 (talk) 15:56, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 10:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Bertrand (film)

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Does not meet WP:NFILM or WP:GNG, have been unable to find significant coverage outside the smh review included in the article (it is included in IMDB here), for example, a search under various permutations at the NFSA site ( such as "Romilly Cavan") and the ABC ( like this) brings up nothing, would suggest that a mention at the writer's wikiarticle is probably enough but unfortunately Romilly Cavan does not have a lesson (although she may be notable?). Also, there is no mention at Ken Hannam, the director's article. Coolabahapple ( talk) 10:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment Still thinking about this one and still looking. I did find this which gives some reasonable content: "TELEVISION AND RADIO TODAY". The Canberra Times. Australian Capital Territory, Australia. 27 May 1964. p. 33. Retrieved 10 January 2020 – via Trove.. Aoziwe ( talk) 12:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is too heavily based on IMDb to show notability. GNG requires multiple reliable sources which we clearly do not have. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can actually do better than this. There is one good source in the article, but making a film notable just because it exists requires more than just one source — and as I don't have any viable access to databases of Australian media coverage from the 1960s, I cannot speak to whether any other coverage exists to salvage it with. But we don't keep inadequately sourced articles about films that haven't been properly shown to clear WP:NFILM just because we assume that better notability-building sources might exist — we keep such articles only if better notability-building sources are shown to exist. So if somebody with better access than I've got to Australian newspaper archives can find sufficient sourcing, that would change things — but until that happens, one source isn't enough. Bearcat ( talk) 18:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC) reply
There is also the one I found above. But that would make only two reasonable references. So, I still think not quite enough yet. (Re Aussie newspapers. You should be able to access TROVE - which for Aussie content should be a critical part of BEFORE). Aoziwe ( talk) 22:51, 13 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ User:Aoziwe: May I ask why you think it's still not enough, given that that's exactly what WP:GNG requires? Modernponderer ( talk) 12:29, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Just conservative I suppose. While I do like to keep articles, or at least content, if at all possible, I just like to feel comfortable that they will not come back again and again, which some seem to. (Sorry was working on the post below before I saw your post here.) Aoziwe ( talk) 12:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
PS Sorry, it is getting late here so I might have missed it, but where exactly does it say "two"? Aoziwe ( talk) 12:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ User:Aoziwe: The GNG requires "multiple" sources, i.e. at least two. More is better, of course. Modernponderer ( talk) 12:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Okay. But I like to hang on by more than my finger nails. Cheers. Aoziwe ( talk) 13:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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@ User:Boneymau: Did you mean to add a different reference? Because the one you added is the second one that was already posted here... Modernponderer ( talk) 18:25, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
I didn't realise that they were the same until you pointed it out. Apologies, only two references at this point. Boneymau ( talk) 21:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 14:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Don Bosco English Medium CBSE School, Shirva, Karnataka

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No evidence of any notability for what is a blatant marketing handout Slatersteven ( talk) 13:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. I just cleaned up the page as much as I could. Despite having provisional board of secondary education affiliation, this is a K–8 primary school, for which any assertions of notability cannot be attributed to independent reliable sources. Since the creator is persistently trying to use the page as an advertising vehicle, delete and do not redirect to locality. • Gene93k ( talk) 07:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Gulnar Virk Krishna

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Not notable, doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO. In search results, her name appears in the context of "wife-of" or "bride-of" her notable husband. Of the four sources cited, the first is a self-placed advertisement, two say virtually nothing about her, and one speaks of her involvement in one event. Largoplazo ( talk) 13:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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No, still agree with merging over the personal life info. Looks like they have a kid now. JamieWhat ( talk) 14:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
I disagree with moving the detailed information about her to his article, giving undue weight to information that isn't about him, WP:COATRACK. That would amount to a subterfuge to get around WP:N by embedding an article about her into an article about him. Largoplazo ( talk) 18:06, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
directly? No. But the essence is the same. We should not be giving out (awarding) redirects because someone tried to promote themselves, or just because the subject achieved to get (verifiably) connected with something else notable. Like non notable CEO of notable company, or in some cases subject acheiving to get married to someone notable. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:29, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 14:13, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Planetouched

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This fails to establish notability. The previous AfD seems to have been an "it's important" argument rather than anything to do with passing WP:N. TTN ( talk) 12:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Cicero#Notable fictional portrayals. Being bold and closing this one early. SNOW for redirect. Missvain ( talk) 22:29, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Marcus Tullius Cicero (Rome character)

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This article fails to establish notability. TTN ( talk) 12:24, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 14:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Swadeshi Jagaran Manch

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All sources are routine coverages. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. S. M. Nazmus Shakib ( talk) 11:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep Comprehensively passes both the WP:GNG and WP:NORG. The article in its current state is a respectable stub with sufficient sources and if needed can be expanded with countless sources which exist in multiple languages and multiple form of written media. 1, 2 3, 4, 5, 6. Razer( talk) 17:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Razer, See below.
1 and 2 are same source repeated twice. Please remove one. It is a book about Hindutva, so it is expected that it will cover all affiliates of RSS, including this one. And even then SJM does not get a chapter and the source only covers the subject in a few lines.
3 only mentions the subject in passing.
4 National Herald is not a reliable source.
5 is a passing mention of the subject.
6. is an interview of the office bearer of the subject. That is not independent coverage and cannot be used for WP:ORGCRIT
Based on this I dont think a separate article is merited. It is an outfit of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and should be covered at RSS' article. DBig Xray 17:46, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
DBigXray, I can list countless more sources. It is a major organisation and although affiliated to RSS has sufficient coverage to warrant its own article. 1 , 2 , 3, 4, 5 RSS is a umbrella organisation and has countless organisation working under it. Even the current ruling party of India , BJP started as a RSS affiliate. Being a affiliate to RSS in no way affects the notability of Swadeshi Jagaran Manch. Razer( talk) 17:54, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Most of these, with the exception of Quint, are again WP:NOTNEWS type coverages. BJP not just started as, but still is an affiliate of RSS, although BJP is a notable affiliate, but not all affiliates are notable to have their own article. Affiliation to RSS, is the reason why SJM is getting these WP:NOTNEWS type of passing mentions, or else it would not have received even those. The link 1 in your first comment mentions that "RSS directs its affiliates" and "RSS derives its significance from its affiliates". Due to these reasons, I believe it would be better to discuss the subject in a para at Sangh_Parivar#Economics. DBig Xray 18:12, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
DBigXray, Instead of throwing wiki policies around, you should attempt to at-least read some of them. The primary criteria of WP:ORGCRITE is
significant coverage in-
  • multiple
  • independent,
  • reliable
  • secondary sources.
Which Swadeshi Jagaran Manch seems to pass easily. Razer( talk) 18:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
For Swadeshi Jagaran Manch , the more specific criteria is WP:NONPROFIT. Which lists
  • The scope of their activities is national or international in scale. - Yes
  • The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization. - Yes
Frankly , This is such clear case that I am tempted to mention WP:BEFORE here. Razer( talk) 18:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
These links are being mentioned as you seem to be ignoring/oblivious of them. I have read it and since you feel that I have not, leads me to think that you skipped the most relevant line of ORGCRIT, let me point it for you.

Note that an individual source must meet all of these criteria to be counted towards notability. I.e. each source needs to be significant, independent, reliable, and secondary. Then, there must be multiple of such qualifying sources. If the suitability of a source is in doubt, it is better to exercise caution and to exclude the source for the purposes of establishing notability.

Under ORGCRIT the more specific criteria for it will be WP:BRANCH as it is a sub organisation of RSS (and not NONPROFIT). DBig Xray 18:51, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
DBigXray, SJM is at best an affiliate to RSS and certainly not a branch. Heck it even opposes RSS on certain issues and has its own independent hierarchy of management. You are clutching on straws here. Razer( talk) 12:30, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Razer2115, The quint link you gave above, says in the opening line "SJM is the economic arm of RSS". So it is obvious that WP:BRANCH is applicable. Rest of your comment, is off topic. DBig Xray 13:19, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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Keep Article has significant coverage from secondary sources. Tayi Arajakate ( talk) 16:04, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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BJYM Mumbai

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All sources are routine coverages. It fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG. S. M. Nazmus Shakib ( talk) 11:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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BJYM Karnataka

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All sources are routine coverages. It fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG. S. M. Nazmus Shakib ( talk) 11:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and lacks non promo content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. During an election the party and its wings may get minor passing mentions as WP:NOTNEWS type coverage but those don't help with the notability. -- DBig Xray 12:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
I just reverted an edit of yours at the article, an edit that deleted coverage by the Indian Express, one of the more established, and presumably reliable, Indian news sources. You might legitimately complain that this subject lacks notability but please don't remove such indications of notability at the same time, unless you give a more complete explanation for that removal. Dhtwiki ( talk) 02:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
The " Annexation of Hyderabad" is notable and the topic of that coverage, the proposed memorial was never built. Removed per WP:CRYSTAL.-- DBig Xray 09:09, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ DBigXray: you remved the content again. I have reinstated it. It is not at all what WP:CRYSTAL is about. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:56, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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Yuva Sena

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A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and no content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. DBig Xray 09:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:55, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and no content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. DBig Xray 09:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and no content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. DBig Xray 09:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Redirects at editorial discretion. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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No sign of notability and promotional Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 08:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. Reads like an advertisement. Single source cited doesn't add up to notability and I don't see any other significant sources on the web. Glendoremus ( talk) 03:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or redirect to Meyer Corporation: The topic of this particular product line is covered in a wider context on the page about the company, and I am not seeing enough specific sources to justify a specific topic article by WP:NPRODUCT. (In passing I'll mention I bake bread every other day using a Circulon loaf tin, and very good it is too.) AllyD ( talk) 11:40, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Taking to AfD rather than prod in case I'm missing something. Could possibly redirect to Kitelife, but I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 08:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. No independent, reliable Sources found on the web of the subject but merely, interviews, blogs which are not independent. Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO.
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The result was keep. Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Mhhossein talk 15:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Since this article was created by me during my days when I wasn't so good at avoiding copyvios, I feel it is better to delete it so I can recreate it afresh, a.k.a. the phoenix being reborn. The old copyvio revisions (basically, all older revisions) will anyway be deleted, so it's best to let the whole article be deleted; I have saved my revamp elsewhere and can recreate the article using it. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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This article has been tagged since 2008 for in-universe style, reliance on primary refs and lack of notability. Most of it isn’t sourced at all. Some sections may be merged to City of Heroes but for the most part it does not meet our notability requirements. Mccapra ( talk) 05:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Article topic does not appear to be notable per WP:GNG. This search of the WP:VG/SE pulls up nothing of interest or significance. Izno ( talk) 05:17, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. I remember trying to upsell this when I worked at EB Games, just to get it off the shelf...no dice. Kind of amusing to see it here, once more failing to thrive. ♠ PMC(talk) 07:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Article topic does not appear to be notable based on this search on the WP:VG/SE. Metacritic similarly lists no professional reviews from print sources. Izno ( talk) 05:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:14, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Sandra Natachi Okeke

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Subject is a fitness trainer and blogger. Sources provided on the page are not reliable as they are mainly blog or style magazines. Sources found on line are interviews (not independent), social media sites or blog. Subject fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO CASSIOPEIA( talk) 04:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. The delete camp does go into more detail about why the sources are inadequate to establish inclusion against WP:NOTNEWS Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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The article was originally proposed for deletion per WP:NOTNEWS, but the article creator objected. The reason for the original proposal still stands. A minor earthquake with no damage or casualties is not even remotely a notable WP:EVENT. TornadoLGS ( talk) 03:49, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

  • DELETE - Easy delete here. Very minor earthquake, no fatalities, no injuries, no serious damage, I can't find any sources referencing this beyond the date that it happened. It's just a very minor earthquake, and those don't deserve articles. Shelbystripes ( talk) 04:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • KeepMeets WP:GNG. A topic may be presumed notable (i.e. capable of being noted or worthy of notice) if it is noticed in one or more independent, reliable, and verifiable sources. Watchbotx ( talk) 08:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • DELETE - A sure Delete for me. It is estimated that around 500,000 earthquakes occur each year, detectable with current instrumentation. About 100,000 of these can be felt. Magnitude of less than 4 is minor and minor earthquakes occur nearly constantly around the world. Also no fatalities or impacts. TJ aka 08:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) ( talk)
  • Keep There's no question it has enough sources to meet WP:GNG]. If 500k other earthquakes get news coverage, they can have articles too. Wikipedia isn't out of disk space. XeroxKleenex ( talk) 09:31, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The notability test for an earthquake is not just "has sources", because every earthquake always has sources: if it's felt by the general public at all, then one or more local news stories will always exist about that, and even if it isn't felt by the general public, the National Earthquake Center's database (which records every earthquake that happens at all) will always still have an entry. But our role here is not to simply replicate the federal earthquake database by indiscriminately maintaining an article about every single earthquake that occurs — our role is to maintain articles about earthquakes that can show a genuine, ten-year test passing claim of significance (major damage, significant loss of human life, an unusual new type of earthquake activity that generates special study by seismologists, etc.), not just every earthquake that has ever happened at all.
    GNG is not just "count up the sources and keep anything that hits or exceeds two": it also takes into account factors like the depth of the coverage, the geographic range of the coverage, and the context of what the topic is getting covered for, and some types of coverage simply don't count for as much as some other types. It's the same as the reasons why unelected political candidates are not exempted from having to pass NPOL just because a handful of local campaign coverage exists; bands are not exempted from having to pass NMUSIC just because they have a couple of hits in their local hometown media about them accomplishing things of purely local interest; high school athletes are not exempted from having to pass our notability standards for sportspeople just because they had a couple of pieces of human interest coverage in their local media about their recovery from an injury; and on and so forth: GNG evaluates a lot more than just the raw number of footnotes that happen to be present. An article can have 30 footnotes and still fail GNG if those 30 footnotes all fail one or more of the depth, range and context tests. Bearcat ( talk) 13:50, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The single Earthquake might not be enough for an article, but as it was the strongest earthquake in an 18 earthquake series, the name/page should be changed to that series. Elijahandskip ( talk) 15:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Lupine Record label

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Procedural nomination: I declined WP:PROD per the guidelines because the article has been PRODed (and deleted) once before. The nominator User:Chubbles' rationale was:

Gerard Starkie is the only possibly-notable signee to this label; the others mentioned were only on a limited-edition vinyl release. The label seems only to have put out a couple of Starkie's albums and the compilation. Not "one of the more important indie labels" per WP:MUSIC

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Eep! The sourcing on that one doesn't exceed the sourcing on this deletion-worthy article. I'll add it to my rescue list. Thanks for the heads up! 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 18:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. with the sources now provided, article now fulfils WP:GEOLAND. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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It isn't content that should be on an encyclopedia. It only cites one source, isn't really full sentences, and isn't notable. Minecrafter0271 ( talk) 02:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. This discussion is not a vote, but a method of establishing consensus by making convincing arguments in the light of Wikipedia's established policies and practices. It contains many "keep" opinions, but all of them must be disregarded because they do not address the reason for which deletion is requested. That reason is alleged lack of notability ( WP:N) for lack of substantial coverage in reliable sources. In response to such a nomination, "keep" opinions must identify such coverage in order to be taken into account. But none do, as SportingFlyer points out. Instead we read things like "he's big on Youtube", "he's well known", "there are too many AfDs" and some personal attacks. The complaints about the previous AfDs, in particular, are not convincing because they all resulted in no consensus. None of these assertions address the nominator's contention that there are not enough reliable sources about this person for us to write an article about him. As such, I must treat this contention as unrebutted and therefore determinative for the outcome of this discussion. Sandstein 20:58, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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There is no substantial RS coverage of this person, making it near-impossible to write a Wikipedia article on him. There are only four RS (per the RSP list [16]) that mention Kulinski: two that list him as one of multiple founders of the Justice Democrats, and two Fox News pieces that note that he shared clips on Twitter defending Cenk Uygur. While the Justice Democrats are notable (as substantiated by RS coverage) and Cenk Uygur are notable (as substantiated by RS coverage), Kulinski is not (as shown by the dearth of RS coverage). A previous AfD discussion ended in "no consensus" because the subject of the article directed supporters to the AfD, creating absolute chaos in the AfD discussion. The first and second AfD discussions (which took place in 2017) were poorly attended and ended in "no consensus". Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 02:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep see my previous comments at one of the other three AfDs. One just ended Dec 19. WP:DELAFD It can be disruptive to repeatedly nominate a page in the hope of getting a different outcome. Lightburst ( talk) 03:16, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
The closer of the 3rd nomination suggested that a fourth AfD might be wise (for what it's worth, before the canvassing, the AfD vote was overwhelmingly heading towards Delete). I also brought this up on the Admin noticeboard. Nobody expressed opposition to re-doing the AfD. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 03:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Redirect to Justice Democrats (seeing no need to delete the history and a redirect is inevitable since it's a notable organization he co-founded). A search for sources found a few mentions, a few quotes, and lots of primary sources, but not enough in-depth coverage about this person to satisfy WP:GNG (for the small amount of coverage there is, WP:NOPAGE applies given the very logical alternative page). Any keep argument at this point really needs to surface some additional sources. [copied/adapted from what I said last time] — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Before the subject of the article and his Reddit fan-clubs directed people to the AfD, the tally was 6 delete votes and 1 keep vote. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 14:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
You like to truncate the count, close the ballot box, toss the votes and choose the votes that suit your desired result. Your privilege I guess. But it is both wrong and unprincipled. 7&6=thirteen ( ) 15:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Being able to successfully send your followers to disrupt an AfD is not an indicator of notability to me (if it were, it would set a bad precedent and encourage more of the same). There was no controversy on the 1st and 2nd AfD – they were just poorly attended and ended in 'no consensus'. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 20:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Yes, you've made that opinion known several times. Others disagree with your assessment. What exactly is the upside of deleting an article that gets at minimum hundreds, at times many thousands, of visits per day? -Jordgette [talk] 22:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Strong Keep On principle alone, closers should never listen to JPL above. He is a constant, serial Delete vote on virtually every article. Its a thought-less reflex. I'd rather not go into further ad hominem, but its there. I'm well into my second decade of protecting content on wikipedia. There aren't enough of us doing this vs the hordes of automatons, JPL being the worst example. I got dragged into this years ago and have watched a lot of this activity. The NOM of this article seems to be a leader of a movement trying to dismiss anything associated with the Justice Democrats, including its co-founder Kulinski. A lot of (possibly paid) political operatives are pounding on any associate of another co-founder Cenk Uygur, now a congressional candidate and his extremely popular YouTube oriented network The Young Turks. Kulinski's primary show is distributed on the network. A lot of the sources reporting on Kulinski are part of the wave of "new media" outlets rather than old school sources, a concept which wikipedia needs to adapt to. Instead, this group of editors, snoogans the most active this election cycle, have been using WP:WIKILAWYERING techniques to dismiss the significance of any sources associated with this "new media." [17] [18] [19] They will respond as wikilawyers here. They blatantly remove content and sources, then report anything remaining as unsourced or poorly sourced. Gee, now this article looks disreputable, better delete it. And now after being rebuffed a third time, they didn't like mom's answer, so lets try again with dad. WP:NPOV, WP:IDON'TLIKEIT. Same editors, same techniques. They just don't like the political content Mr. Kulinski, The Young Turks and the " Bernie Would Have Won" oriented progressive movement are presenting. They are particularly aggressive now that Sanders is in the lead in 2020, slicing and dicing to remove as much of that content as possible across a variety of articles. We can't let undecided voters see this. Effectively, I believe you would call that censorship to fulfill an WP:AGENDA. Trackinfo ( talk) 21:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Saying that an editor should be ignored, is thoughtless, has a political agenda, advocates for censorship, and might be engaging in UPE, certainly constitutes a personal attack. You should delete this comment. BubbaJoe123456 ( talk) 20:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Look at this: In the time it took me to write above, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media coverage of Bernie Sanders (3rd nomination) appeared, again. Same stuff, different day. And actually, because of the way that article has been perverted since its initial creation, I might just support deletion, in favor of recreating the proper version of that content. Trackinfo ( talk) 21:29, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - It's remarkable that in lieu of any substance/sourcing, most of the keep !votes thus far are based entirely on ad hominem/wikilawyering, whether that those who don't think he should have a stand-alone article are part of some secret conspiracy, or pushing an agenda, or that it shouldn't have been renominated (despite the closing statement of the previous nom), or that someone's opinion should be discounted because they only !vote one way (which is technically true, but just an ad hominem, and ironically raised by someone who only !votes one way and misses the mark about three times as often). Still waiting for actual evidence of in depth coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject that justify a stand-alone article rather than inheriting notability from the org he founded... (also, btw, I had never heard of this person until coming across the AfD -- I often look through relisted/renominated XfDs) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:42, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I first heard of Kyle Kulinski just before I created the 3rd AfD nomination (I didn't nominate him the 1st and 2nd time). I wanted to learn more about him, found that his Wikipedia page was entirely barren of reliable content, and that I was incapable of finding any RS content to actually add to his page. Thus, I nominated the page for deletion. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 22:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I also wasn't familiar with him either until the last nomination. As someone who votes at a lot of political AfDs, he simply does not meet our requirements based on the available sourcing. If there's someone who wants to bring sources to the discussion, I'd be happy to listen. SportingFlyer T· C 00:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I've just added more sources that these other people somehow can't seem to find. I think I've already added ten to this article. I've seen the substance behind the subject. I've also watched the unwarranted attacks on this content and above have reported on the patterns of behavior that would become obvious to any unclouded observer. I've developed quite a sarcastic attitude to the repetition. Here we go again. Trackinfo ( talk) 04:57, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Snoogans is so aggressive in his attempt to deplete this article of sources, that here he deleted a segment discussing the oft quoted tweets by Kulinski, including a piece by the Washington Examiner that spends several paragraphs attacking Kulinski, because the sources quote tweets. How absurd is that? Contemporary "new media' stars use tweets and other social media to expand their message. The fact that sources quote those tweets show their significance well above and beyond some bozo telling what he ate for dinner. The current president rules by tweet. He literally tells his every thought by tweet. Stephen Colbert spends more than half his monologue quoting those tweets every night. Are you going to AfD Colbert now? Trackinfo ( talk) 06:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • None of the sources you added are reliable sources. They're either retweets or very brief mentions that he has a show. There's still nothing in the article that passes WP:GNG. You're also welcome to link to the sources in this AfD discussion so we can review them more easily if you find any more. SportingFlyer T· C 08:13, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • You're really bringing in another ad hominem because snoogans removed this?? To an already contentious subject you added an opinion column in the Washington Examiner in which the author says nothing at all about Kulinski apart from using his tweet to make point? Even if it were a good source, it doesn't do anything for notability. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Would the Washington Examiner spend its time trashing a tweet by a non-notable bum off the street? Of course not. They raised his tweet as a (negative) example because he was a significant political commentator from the opposite persuasion. Trackinfo ( talk) 09:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
It's clearly not significant coverage, which doesn't contribute to notability. SportingFlyer T· C 11:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
There is no notability criterion of "has written a tweet that annoyed someone at the Washington Examiner enough to write up a little rant about it". So many of these !votes are trying to find a good indicator of notability (number of subscribers, a tweet being responded to in the Examiner, etc.) but nobody has actually found notability in the form of in-depth coverage in good sources. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:49, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
The Washington Post refers to him as a "internet idol." [20] Is that a reliable source? Trackinfo ( talk) 03:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
That article doesn't count towards WP:GNG since it only name-drops him once, and we require coverage to be significant. But it is reliable, and if you can find a couple more like those which discuss him significantly, that would change the nature of the discussion. SportingFlyer T· C 04:08, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Well-known in political and media spheres, highly influential, and ever-increasing media presence. This article literally just survived another deletion nomination, and has been nominated repeatedly in the past yet remained. Use to repeat nominations to hinder productivity, and even punitively (threatening another burecratic nomination if other people edit the article in a way they don't like) is inappropriate and problematic IMHO.-- PlanespotterA320 ( talk) 22:54, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Request - Per WP:THREE, would an editor please list the best 3 sources which provide substantial, independent, secondary coverage of the article subject? - Ryk72 talk 09:06, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep If you don't like how the previous AFD ended, the same editor who nominated it shouldn't be able to do it yet again a month later. This is ridiculous! This should be closed for wasting everyone's time. Also the article says he has over 645 million YouTube views, so he easily passes the subject specific guideline for WP:ENTERTAINER. "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." Dream Focus 15:05, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep clearly passes WP:GNG and he is a well known political journalist who also got fame for criticising Trump's administration. Wikipedia has a list of articles about commentators and journalists who might not have even passed WP:GNG. The subject is notable enough but the article needs much improvement and work. Abishe ( talk) 06:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I've wondered why we had no article on this guy. Now I'm starting to understand a few things... I'm not knowledgeable enough to have anything new to add, but will instead refer to editor Trackinfo where I learned a lot... Like many young articles, it can use some improvement. Gandydancer ( talk) 19:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Snooganssnoogans, Rhododendrites, SportingFlyer. Ryk72 and John Pack Lambert have made good points in their review of the reliable sources. This is not significant coverage. We don't go by total views,the total subscribers is still under 1 million which makes it a minor channel in YouTube terms. There simply isn't enough reliably sourced content yet for an encyclopedia article. Kulinski may generate enough press to meet WP:GNG in the future but right now it's WP:TOOSOON. Dartslilly ( talk) 19:58, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Keep. I !voted to Delete in the last AfD due to the lack of reliable significant coverage. Again, I still think this is the case in this situation as the subject as not reached significant coverage from reliable sources. However, the fact this has been nominated so soon after the last AfD in an attempt to get it deleted does not sit well with me.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 22:45, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • This is mentioned above, but the admin who closed the previous nomination was explicit about this in the closing statement: perhaps folks could also consider a new AFD discussion that is protected from the get-go. That's what this is. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:00, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Clearly doesn't meet GNG. Redirect to Justice Democrats would make sense. BubbaJoe123456 ( talk) 23:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The claim above that I always vote delete is demonstrably false. The ad hominen attacks on well reasoned votes is unjustified, and the beligerent's towards people who do not let Wikipedia be filled up with poorly sourced articles on people of non-notability is unjustified. Well, I should say who seek to change the status quo of Wikipedia being filled with poorly sourced articles on non-notable living individuals. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:26, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment There's still not a single keep !voter here who has discussed which sources actually show notability. SportingFlyer T· C 04:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Uh, like, all of them . . . and all of the censored deleted ones are well. We have a swath of sources that were removed because they quoted tweets. That is a large part of what Kulinski does to promote his show. His tweets would not be quoted by other Reliable sources unless they were relevant and he was a notable figure. Trackinfo ( talk) 07:08, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
I'm afraid that's not true about the sources. There are currently five links to external pages on this page and only one of them is to a source which only mentioned him in passing. Tweets are primary and are in no way reliable, and you're even admitting they're purely promotional. Neither of those demonstrate notability. There's not much that's been changed since the last AfD, which the closer noted was much closer to delete in spite of the canvassing concerns. If you want to post sources that pass WP:GNG, I'd be happy to review them, but not a single keep !voter has done that so far. SportingFlyer T· C 09:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
These articles are reviewed and maintained by a team of volunteers. These sources don't show the kind of the significant coverage editors want for biographies about living persons. BLPs require more community resources to maintain than probably any other type of article and that this one is mostly promotional at this stage is not even being disputed. It's just TOOSOON. Dartslilly ( talk) 13:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Primarily a list of winners of its awards. I am not a good judge of notability here due to my unfamiliarity with the topic, but this feels like it may not meet WP:GNG. Raymie ( tc) 01:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Amateur radio operating award. Except Logbook of The World. Content can be merged from history if desired. Sandstein 20:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Summits on the Air

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the same arguments apply to both all of these articles. These are both all sourced from sources which are either the contest's own website, amateur radio blogs, or the websites of entities which are closely associated with the contests (i.e. ARRL, RSGB) and are thus not WP:INDEPENDENT. My own searching didn't find anything better. There's also Draft:Parks on the Air, which I'm not formally including in this AfD since it's a draft, but basically this all applies there as well.

There's a few others in Category:Amateur radio operating awards, but the ones I've noted above seem the most egregious. For example, Jamboree on the Air, has a couple of good WP:RS (Irish Times, Christian Science Monitor) and thus qualifies for WP:GNG on its own.

As an WP:ATD, it might make sense to merge these all into Amateur radio operating award, which could be expanded to include a section on each one. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Updated: Upon further research, I've added most of Category:Amateur radio operating awards. All of these articles suffer from the same problem of non WP:RS sourcing, and have significant overlap. They would all be better covered in a combined article. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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Logbook of The World is not an operating award so should not be included in this list.-- Harumphy ( talk) 16:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
It suffers the same poor sourcing problems as the other articles, but you are correct that it's different from the others so I've struck it from the nomination. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Merge The eight awards in the nom should be combined as separate sections of Amateur radio operating award to retain the images and references for each. Amateur radio is a somewhat esoteric and technical hobby and will always have the sourcing problem identified in the nom. Nonetheless, several million persons are licensed amateurs globally and the hobby has resulted in STEM careers for many. Dhpage ( talk) 01:30, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Just for the record, I think ham radio is great. I never got my license (mostly because when I was a kid, I didn't have the patience to learn morse code), but I do remember building a Heathkit receiver when I was in high school (googling around a bit now, I'm thinking HR-10B). I didn't have the theory at the time to actually understand how it worked, but I still remember the feeling of amazement when I powered it up for the first time and it worked! But, still, WP:GNG and WP:RS rule the day here. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:36, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Looks like this one fails a wide variety of things - RS, N, FICTION, etc. If there is something in the article that someone wants to merge, ping me and I'll copy it over to your userspace. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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This article fails to establish notability. There is no particular reason to retain such a minor fictional element. TTN ( talk) 22:46, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was Keep but discuss a move. On the one hand, the WP:GNG-based keep claims are well taken and most people don't appear to be convinced that WP:NOTMEMORIAL would justify deletion here (I am also a little unsure what "there's already a perfectly good WP:NOT which applies here" refers to). And as pointed out the "one event" policies and guidelines allow for a repurposing of a noncompliant article in lieu of deletion. On the other hand, the WP:BLP1E (i.e the individual is not notable) arguments are also well taken and a number of people have suggested that a move would be appropriate although I note there is no unanimity on the issue. There was also some discussion of a merge and of a second AFD if no WP:LASTING coverage emerged; these didn't get much discussion but can perhaps be considered outside/after this AFD. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 10:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Julie Berman (transgender activist)

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WP:BIO1E of a person whose only stated or sourced indication of notability is a two-day blip of media coverage upon her death. As always, people are not automatically notable just because their death made it into the news -- if that were how it worked, we would have to keep an article about every single person who ever died in a car accident or a house fire or a workplace safety incident. But there's no other discernible claim of preexisting notability in life here: she's stated as an "activist", but the only evidence of activism being presented is that she volunteered for the local community centre, which is not "inherently" notable work in and of itself. And I checked both Google and ProQuest to find older coverage that might bolster her notability, but was completely unable to find a single piece of reliable source coverage about her, in any context whatsoever, prior to the death blip. Wikipedia is not a free platform for memorializing everybody who ever died, but there's just not enough substance, or enough sourcing for anything apart from her death itself, to deem her notable enough for permanent coverage in an international encyclopedia — the notability test for activists is not automatically passed just because the article and/or its sources use the word "activist", but requires properly sourceable evidence of significant and noteworthy and externally-reported-upon accomplishments as an activist. Bearcat ( talk) 22:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep and potentially rename to "Murder of Julie Berman" per WP:BLP1E and User:Clovermoss below; Comment - I haven't formed an opinion yet, but I object to the premise that someone must have demonstrated notability prior to their death for the facts of their death to be valid or relevant. This isn't someone who died randomly in a car accident or house fire; this is someone who was murdered, and for whom there is widespread (even international) concern that her murder is related to her prior advocacy work. Said advocacy may only have gotten news coverage because she died, but it seems clear why the Toronto LGBT+ community (and the LGBT+ community writ large) is treating her death as notable; here's some specific information about her:
    From Globalnews.ca (also picked up in From CBC.ca):
    She had helped out with various events at The 519, an LGBTQ charity in Toronto, over the last 30 years, they said. "Berman worked on the charity’s Trans Access project, an education program that focused on needs in the trans community.

    Julie has suffered violence in the past and it’s important that we remember her advocacy in openly willing to talk about what happens inside the trans community, and her ability to advocate for rights of all members, that made the community better,” said Olivia Nuamah, the executive director of Pride Toronto."

    From CNN:

    Two years ago, Berman served on the center's organizing committee for the Transgender Day of Remembrance, an international event that memorializes transgender people killed in transphobic attacks over the past year.

    At the 2017 vigil, Berman spoke out on anti-transgender violence, and mourned people she knew who had been killed, according to Susan Gapka, an organizer and educator with The 519.

    I agree she's not notable for advocacy alone--sadly 30 years of noble and needed volunteer work, including Transgender Day of Remembrance organizing, does not make one notable--I believe it's important to focus on the actual reason she may or may not ultimately be notable, which is that she was an outspoken transgender rights advocate who was murdered, with much preliminary public discussion already over how much the two things are related. Shelbystripes ( talk) 06:32, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Updated above with !vote. I wouldn't be opposed to a 2nd AfD in a year or two if there's no WP:LASTING impact, but it's too early to make that call, and her death has gotten the sort of outsized international attention that (IMO) supports notability. Shelbystripes ( talk) 18:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Shelbystripes. If she is not notable, her death is. Since WP:BLP1E states that "the general rule is to cover the event, not the person", I would support the article title being changed to "Murder of Julie Berman" with the current title becoming a redirect. That said, I'm willing to change my !vote if someone can demonstrate her activism as notable in itself. Also, while there was increased coverage during those two days, more recent coverage exists. Some examples include: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Clovermoss (talk) 21:54, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Passes general notability guidelines. Missvain ( talk) 21:32, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete unfortunately, I have to agree with Bearcat's one event argument, and also bring up WP:NOTMEMORIAL, which as a part of WP:NOT trumps WP:GNG. I cannot find any coverage of her that isn't about her incredibly tragic murder, and even though there's more recent coverage it's all a part of the same event. I do have two hopes: 1) someone will find sources that shows she was notable before her death and we can keep this; 2) if not, that we can add her to a list, or somewhere else in the encyclopaedia, but unfortunately this should not be a standalone article at this time. But unfortunately the WP:NOT is spot on, and I agree with that. SportingFlyer T· C 00:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
As a comment, I don't think WP:NOTMEMORIAL is relevant here. No one commenting (that I'm aware of) knew the victim personally or is making arguments based on personal connections or feelings; the discussion is whether a victim of an internationally publicized murder is notable as such. There's no requirement that people achieve notability before their death, and there are many examples of an otherwise non-notable person's death making them notable enough for inclusion ( Matthew Shepard, Trayvon Martin, Death of Brian Wells, Emmett Till, Murder of James Craig Anderson, Jaime Zapata, etc.). I'm not saying Julie Berman is definitely notable like those, but I am saying that's the discussion, notability resulting from her death. WP:NOTMEMORIAL only requires the article subject must meet notability requirements. It doesn't say they had to be notable while they were alive. Shelbystripes ( talk) 19:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Well, discussing WP:NOTMEMORIAL's a bit of a red herring as there's already a perfectly good WP:NOT which applies here, but this is close to an obituary as written. I did a news search and all of the coverage is from around the time she passed :( but the event doesn't seem to have any lasting significance yet. All of the blue links you posted received by far and away significant coverage that I just don't see here yet. SportingFlyer T· C 11:24, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I'd support a merge to that page, considering all of the news articles on her were from late December. The fact it went international doesn't mean the event suddenly passes WP:NOTNEWS. I'm still hopeful we can find more information on her. SportingFlyer T· C 11:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Google searches are not reliable sources. Reliable sources are reliable sources. Sandstein 10:10, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Khelo India Youth Games 2020

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We don't have articles for the first two seasons of Khelo India Youth Games. This us about the third edition and it may not be necassary to keep a national junior level competition in the encyclopedia. It clearly fails WP:GNG. Abishe ( talk) 11:56, 9 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Many India media is covering it including Newspaper, Online, TV News etc it is youth games but have generated more coverage than National Games. The article should remain in wikipedia. ( talk) 17:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Clearly not notable on the basis of GNG. There is some discussion about whether WP:ARTIST-based notability exists, but there isn't a consensus on this and most people did not address it. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Auksė Miliukaitė

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Can a qualified user continue this process for me? I've looked at the sources cited in the article, and searched Google books and generally online, and there just doesn't seem to be anything justifying this individual as the subject of an article. The fact that the lead specifies her to be "emerging" is borne out by the fact that she doesn't seem to have done anything that would make her really "notable" per the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines. The only real achievements presented are that she had an exhibition at the Rooster Gallery, Vilnius, which is specifically for young Lithuanian artists that aren't established, and won a minor prize (unnamed) in 2007, since when it doesn't seem she's increased in notability at all. The other sites cited seem to be all based on the "young artists that may be big in the future" (collectgoodstuff.com claims to be "an inspiring platform and marketplace with a curated selection of emerging artists, new talents and unique art-related products. Our mission is to discover promising talents, work with outstanding artists on new collaborations and provide collectors with compelling artistic contents", i.e. promotion of works for their art sales site; art-bites.com gives a very similar spiel); since she hasn't yet reached that stage, nor is there any particular reason to assume that she definitely will, it seems to be putting the cart considerably before the horse to give her an article, certainly at this point. Thank you. 78.144.65.128 ( talk) 20:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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@ David Eppstein:, I was ready to be swayed so I checked the Lewben Foundation out. Its information is hosted on the Lewben group site, a company " an integrated business services group whose companies provide their clients with asset and wealth management services". It seems to be a private collection housed in a company, which is not the exactly the same as a notable museum or gallery mentioned in WP:ARTIST 4 d). In face, it was only in 2015 that they decided to " present to the public for the first time part of (their) collection of contemporary international artists", at an art fair in Vilnius. I do see some other shows they have lent art to. In the end though it is a private collection; these have variable standards, based on how well they are staffed. Not sure about that one. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 19:07, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete art-bites.com is a website whose "primary concerns are to nurture and push our artists into new opportunities". It is owned and operated by The Rooster Gallery.
    galerija101.lt, I think, is the same as https://www.vdu.lt/en/about-vmu/cultural-activities/vmu-art-spaces-and-museums/gallery-101/ a university gallery. Since it's an interview and published by the gallery where she exhibited, it is not an independent source.
    7md.lt is an interview about a group of three painters that include Miliukaitė, but besides a number of images of her work, doesn't discuss her. The introduction mentions that the three are "still unknown".
    roostergallery.eu, per its own website: "represents the youngest generation."
    artnews.lt appears to be a press release for an exhibition at the Vytautas Magnus University Art Gallery 101 mentioned above, in 2013, when Miliukaitė was still in school.
    In summary, I see no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, and and artist who is still very much at the beginning of her career. It's too soon for an article. Vexations ( talk) 15:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:TOOSOON - this is admittedly an "emerging" young artist. No independent coverage. Bearian ( talk) 20:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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This is a non-notable residential building in New York City. Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable sources, failing WP:GNG. All references provided merely mention building announcing construction or as it relates to the new neighborhood- it's a random apartment building. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 21:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Article about a self-published singer, quite possibly autobiographical. No indication subject passes WP:MUSICBIO. Draftspace version was rejected at WP:AfC. SuperMarioMan ( Talk) 20:14, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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I gave his name a search and it seems like he has made several mildly notable Z-films, but he does not appear to be notable himself. ★Trekker ( talk) 20:05, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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I believe I was the one who added this article originally. I do agree that he is not, at this time, notable enough to maintain on WP. I vote in favor of deletion. Cyberherbalist ( talk) 00:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. kingboyk ( talk) 13:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Unsourced and flagged since 2010. He's written some books but I'm not seeing significant third-party coverage. There's an Imbd listing of talkshow appearances, but again, that's the same problem as here - not RS and likely created as self-promotion. As no one has seen fit to improve it after ten years... - CorbieVreccan 19:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Looking at the German version, the largest sections of content are either unsourced, or only sourced to his own writings. - CorbieVreccan 22:49, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Indeed after another look, it is not as good at it first appeared. I think there is some German sources but Delete or Draftify as it stands. Mattg82 ( talk) 23:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:50, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was that he Does not appear to meet WP:NFOOTY. Yet to appear in a fully professional league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 19:25, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Fenix down ( talk) 08:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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BLP without decent references. Tells us how successful he is. Rathfelder ( talk) 18:57, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - no evidence of notability and not worth a redirect. Giant Snowman 13:17, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment – I'm abstaining, as this is out of my jurisdiction of subject matter expert-ness, but, I did find two sources that might help y'all out:
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The result was keep. Withdrawn by nom (non-admin closure) CatcherStorm talk 05:35, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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There are zero references and only two external links for this article, one of them being the professor's personal page at the FSU website. The other link makes no mention of the subject at all. CatcherStorm talk 17:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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 Comment: Per WP:PROF the subject of the article may be notable since the article claims he has won awards, but the external link to the professor's page may not be acceptable under WP:RS since the professor himself may have contributed to the page. CatcherStorm talk 17:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy keep Passes WP:PROF for holding a named chair and having been elected an AAAS Fellow (easily verified with the AAAS website, and now properly sourced in the article). Cleanup is required, but that's not what AfD is for. Links to professors' departmental or faculty webpages are commonplace on academic biographies. They are primary sources, but acceptable (generally, sources affiliated with an academic, like the university where they are employed, are suitable for uncontroversial claims, like the title they hold or the year they were hired). XOR'easter ( talk) 18:12, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Snow keep. Easy pass of WP:PROF#C1 (heavily cited publications on Google Scholar), #C3 (multiple society fellowships), and #C5 (named professorship). — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. And salt, given the history of Meade Skelton. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:51, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Meade Skelton (singer)

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An article about the same person, without the (unnecessary) disambiguator, was deleted following an AfD all the way back in 2005, but, as far as I can tell, was recreated several times over the following years before finally being protected... but that didn't stop this article from being recreated again under this name in 2017. Even without such a history, I don't feel the subject is notable at all, as Google failed to bring up any reliable non-primary sources other than the six already cited in the article, plus it seems the subject is only known for narcissistic behaviour in Internet forums back in the 2000s. ⓋᎯ☧ǿᖇǥ@ℤε 💬 16:57, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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A long list of non-notable video games, none with its own article. Sourced primarily by its publisher and digital distribution channels. WP:NOTCATALOG. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 16:54, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. It's up to editors whether to create a redirect, opinion is divided about this. But consensus is clearly not to keep this. I'm ignoring BOZ's pure vote as usual. Sandstein 10:14, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Seawolf (Dungeons & Dragons)

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Very minor, non-notable fictional creature. There are only a handful of primary sources being used. Searching for sources brings up plenty of results on the many other topics with the same name. However, the D&D version has nothing in reliable, secondary sources, meaning its a clear failure of the WP:GNG. Rorshacma ( talk) 16:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment - The issue is that there is a pattern where D&D articles that are simply redirected/merged, even if that was the result of consensus at a previous discussion, are restored by anonymous IPs later, forcing us to go through the whole procedure again. Deleting the article first, even if a Redirect is then created after, prevents this from occurring. Rorshacma ( talk) 00:50, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Couldn't we just ask for the pages to be protected to prevent that? ★Trekker ( talk) 01:17, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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One misspelt star wars charater and one other; does not seem necessary to me. TheLongTone ( talk) 16:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) hueman1 (talk) 15:57, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The page was moved to draftspace. hueman1 (talk) 15:56, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 10:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Bertrand (film)

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Does not meet WP:NFILM or WP:GNG, have been unable to find significant coverage outside the smh review included in the article (it is included in IMDB here), for example, a search under various permutations at the NFSA site ( such as "Romilly Cavan") and the ABC ( like this) brings up nothing, would suggest that a mention at the writer's wikiarticle is probably enough but unfortunately Romilly Cavan does not have a lesson (although she may be notable?). Also, there is no mention at Ken Hannam, the director's article. Coolabahapple ( talk) 10:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment Still thinking about this one and still looking. I did find this which gives some reasonable content: "TELEVISION AND RADIO TODAY". The Canberra Times. Australian Capital Territory, Australia. 27 May 1964. p. 33. Retrieved 10 January 2020 – via Trove.. Aoziwe ( talk) 12:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete This is too heavily based on IMDb to show notability. GNG requires multiple reliable sources which we clearly do not have. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can actually do better than this. There is one good source in the article, but making a film notable just because it exists requires more than just one source — and as I don't have any viable access to databases of Australian media coverage from the 1960s, I cannot speak to whether any other coverage exists to salvage it with. But we don't keep inadequately sourced articles about films that haven't been properly shown to clear WP:NFILM just because we assume that better notability-building sources might exist — we keep such articles only if better notability-building sources are shown to exist. So if somebody with better access than I've got to Australian newspaper archives can find sufficient sourcing, that would change things — but until that happens, one source isn't enough. Bearcat ( talk) 18:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC) reply
There is also the one I found above. But that would make only two reasonable references. So, I still think not quite enough yet. (Re Aussie newspapers. You should be able to access TROVE - which for Aussie content should be a critical part of BEFORE). Aoziwe ( talk) 22:51, 13 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ User:Aoziwe: May I ask why you think it's still not enough, given that that's exactly what WP:GNG requires? Modernponderer ( talk) 12:29, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Just conservative I suppose. While I do like to keep articles, or at least content, if at all possible, I just like to feel comfortable that they will not come back again and again, which some seem to. (Sorry was working on the post below before I saw your post here.) Aoziwe ( talk) 12:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
PS Sorry, it is getting late here so I might have missed it, but where exactly does it say "two"? Aoziwe ( talk) 12:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ User:Aoziwe: The GNG requires "multiple" sources, i.e. at least two. More is better, of course. Modernponderer ( talk) 12:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Okay. But I like to hang on by more than my finger nails. Cheers. Aoziwe ( talk) 13:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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@ User:Boneymau: Did you mean to add a different reference? Because the one you added is the second one that was already posted here... Modernponderer ( talk) 18:25, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
I didn't realise that they were the same until you pointed it out. Apologies, only two references at this point. Boneymau ( talk) 21:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 14:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Don Bosco English Medium CBSE School, Shirva, Karnataka

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No evidence of any notability for what is a blatant marketing handout Slatersteven ( talk) 13:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. I just cleaned up the page as much as I could. Despite having provisional board of secondary education affiliation, this is a K–8 primary school, for which any assertions of notability cannot be attributed to independent reliable sources. Since the creator is persistently trying to use the page as an advertising vehicle, delete and do not redirect to locality. • Gene93k ( talk) 07:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Gulnar Virk Krishna

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Not notable, doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO. In search results, her name appears in the context of "wife-of" or "bride-of" her notable husband. Of the four sources cited, the first is a self-placed advertisement, two say virtually nothing about her, and one speaks of her involvement in one event. Largoplazo ( talk) 13:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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No, still agree with merging over the personal life info. Looks like they have a kid now. JamieWhat ( talk) 14:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
I disagree with moving the detailed information about her to his article, giving undue weight to information that isn't about him, WP:COATRACK. That would amount to a subterfuge to get around WP:N by embedding an article about her into an article about him. Largoplazo ( talk) 18:06, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
directly? No. But the essence is the same. We should not be giving out (awarding) redirects because someone tried to promote themselves, or just because the subject achieved to get (verifiably) connected with something else notable. Like non notable CEO of notable company, or in some cases subject acheiving to get married to someone notable. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:29, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 14:13, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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This fails to establish notability. The previous AfD seems to have been an "it's important" argument rather than anything to do with passing WP:N. TTN ( talk) 12:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Cicero#Notable fictional portrayals. Being bold and closing this one early. SNOW for redirect. Missvain ( talk) 22:29, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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This article fails to establish notability. TTN ( talk) 12:24, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 14:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Swadeshi Jagaran Manch

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All sources are routine coverages. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. S. M. Nazmus Shakib ( talk) 11:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep Comprehensively passes both the WP:GNG and WP:NORG. The article in its current state is a respectable stub with sufficient sources and if needed can be expanded with countless sources which exist in multiple languages and multiple form of written media. 1, 2 3, 4, 5, 6. Razer( talk) 17:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Razer, See below.
1 and 2 are same source repeated twice. Please remove one. It is a book about Hindutva, so it is expected that it will cover all affiliates of RSS, including this one. And even then SJM does not get a chapter and the source only covers the subject in a few lines.
3 only mentions the subject in passing.
4 National Herald is not a reliable source.
5 is a passing mention of the subject.
6. is an interview of the office bearer of the subject. That is not independent coverage and cannot be used for WP:ORGCRIT
Based on this I dont think a separate article is merited. It is an outfit of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and should be covered at RSS' article. DBig Xray 17:46, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
DBigXray, I can list countless more sources. It is a major organisation and although affiliated to RSS has sufficient coverage to warrant its own article. 1 , 2 , 3, 4, 5 RSS is a umbrella organisation and has countless organisation working under it. Even the current ruling party of India , BJP started as a RSS affiliate. Being a affiliate to RSS in no way affects the notability of Swadeshi Jagaran Manch. Razer( talk) 17:54, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Most of these, with the exception of Quint, are again WP:NOTNEWS type coverages. BJP not just started as, but still is an affiliate of RSS, although BJP is a notable affiliate, but not all affiliates are notable to have their own article. Affiliation to RSS, is the reason why SJM is getting these WP:NOTNEWS type of passing mentions, or else it would not have received even those. The link 1 in your first comment mentions that "RSS directs its affiliates" and "RSS derives its significance from its affiliates". Due to these reasons, I believe it would be better to discuss the subject in a para at Sangh_Parivar#Economics. DBig Xray 18:12, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
DBigXray, Instead of throwing wiki policies around, you should attempt to at-least read some of them. The primary criteria of WP:ORGCRITE is
significant coverage in-
  • multiple
  • independent,
  • reliable
  • secondary sources.
Which Swadeshi Jagaran Manch seems to pass easily. Razer( talk) 18:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
For Swadeshi Jagaran Manch , the more specific criteria is WP:NONPROFIT. Which lists
  • The scope of their activities is national or international in scale. - Yes
  • The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization. - Yes
Frankly , This is such clear case that I am tempted to mention WP:BEFORE here. Razer( talk) 18:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
These links are being mentioned as you seem to be ignoring/oblivious of them. I have read it and since you feel that I have not, leads me to think that you skipped the most relevant line of ORGCRIT, let me point it for you.

Note that an individual source must meet all of these criteria to be counted towards notability. I.e. each source needs to be significant, independent, reliable, and secondary. Then, there must be multiple of such qualifying sources. If the suitability of a source is in doubt, it is better to exercise caution and to exclude the source for the purposes of establishing notability.

Under ORGCRIT the more specific criteria for it will be WP:BRANCH as it is a sub organisation of RSS (and not NONPROFIT). DBig Xray 18:51, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
DBigXray, SJM is at best an affiliate to RSS and certainly not a branch. Heck it even opposes RSS on certain issues and has its own independent hierarchy of management. You are clutching on straws here. Razer( talk) 12:30, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Razer2115, The quint link you gave above, says in the opening line "SJM is the economic arm of RSS". So it is obvious that WP:BRANCH is applicable. Rest of your comment, is off topic. DBig Xray 13:19, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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Keep Article has significant coverage from secondary sources. Tayi Arajakate ( talk) 16:04, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain ( talk) 17:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

BJYM Mumbai

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All sources are routine coverages. It fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG. S. M. Nazmus Shakib ( talk) 11:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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BJYM Karnataka

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All sources are routine coverages. It fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG. S. M. Nazmus Shakib ( talk) 11:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and lacks non promo content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. During an election the party and its wings may get minor passing mentions as WP:NOTNEWS type coverage but those don't help with the notability. -- DBig Xray 12:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
I just reverted an edit of yours at the article, an edit that deleted coverage by the Indian Express, one of the more established, and presumably reliable, Indian news sources. You might legitimately complain that this subject lacks notability but please don't remove such indications of notability at the same time, unless you give a more complete explanation for that removal. Dhtwiki ( talk) 02:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
The " Annexation of Hyderabad" is notable and the topic of that coverage, the proposed memorial was never built. Removed per WP:CRYSTAL.-- DBig Xray 09:09, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
@ DBigXray: you remved the content again. I have reinstated it. It is not at all what WP:CRYSTAL is about. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:56, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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Yuva Sena

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A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and no content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. DBig Xray 09:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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BJP OBC Morcha

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A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and no content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. DBig Xray 09:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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A wing of a political party that fails WP:NORG due to lack of significant independent coverage in reliable media. This subset of a political party is not independently notable and no content to expand. Article had been created with the sole purpose to WP:Promote its office bearers. DBig Xray 09:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Redirects at editorial discretion. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Circulon

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No sign of notability and promotional Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 08:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. Reads like an advertisement. Single source cited doesn't add up to notability and I don't see any other significant sources on the web. Glendoremus ( talk) 03:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete or redirect to Meyer Corporation: The topic of this particular product line is covered in a wider context on the page about the company, and I am not seeing enough specific sources to justify a specific topic article by WP:NPRODUCT. (In passing I'll mention I bake bread every other day using a Circulon loaf tin, and very good it is too.) AllyD ( talk) 11:40, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

John Barresi

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Taking to AfD rather than prod in case I'm missing something. Could possibly redirect to Kitelife, but I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 08:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. No independent, reliable Sources found on the web of the subject but merely, interviews, blogs which are not independent. Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO.
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The result was keep. Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Mhhossein talk 15:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Mappillai (1952 film)

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Since this article was created by me during my days when I wasn't so good at avoiding copyvios, I feel it is better to delete it so I can recreate it afresh, a.k.a. the phoenix being reborn. The old copyvio revisions (basically, all older revisions) will anyway be deleted, so it's best to let the whole article be deleted; I have saved my revamp elsewhere and can recreate the article using it. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

List of City of Heroes characters

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This article has been tagged since 2008 for in-universe style, reliance on primary refs and lack of notability. Most of it isn’t sourced at all. Some sections may be merged to City of Heroes but for the most part it does not meet our notability requirements. Mccapra ( talk) 05:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Article topic does not appear to be notable per WP:GNG. This search of the WP:VG/SE pulls up nothing of interest or significance. Izno ( talk) 05:17, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. I remember trying to upsell this when I worked at EB Games, just to get it off the shelf...no dice. Kind of amusing to see it here, once more failing to thrive. ♠ PMC(talk) 07:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Lawnmower Racing Mania 2007

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Article topic does not appear to be notable based on this search on the WP:VG/SE. Metacritic similarly lists no professional reviews from print sources. Izno ( talk) 05:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:14, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Sandra Natachi Okeke

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Subject is a fitness trainer and blogger. Sources provided on the page are not reliable as they are mainly blog or style magazines. Sources found on line are interviews (not independent), social media sites or blog. Subject fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO CASSIOPEIA( talk) 04:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. The delete camp does go into more detail about why the sources are inadequate to establish inclusion against WP:NOTNEWS Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

2019 Lilbourn, Missouri Earthquake

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The article was originally proposed for deletion per WP:NOTNEWS, but the article creator objected. The reason for the original proposal still stands. A minor earthquake with no damage or casualties is not even remotely a notable WP:EVENT. TornadoLGS ( talk) 03:49, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

  • DELETE - Easy delete here. Very minor earthquake, no fatalities, no injuries, no serious damage, I can't find any sources referencing this beyond the date that it happened. It's just a very minor earthquake, and those don't deserve articles. Shelbystripes ( talk) 04:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • KeepMeets WP:GNG. A topic may be presumed notable (i.e. capable of being noted or worthy of notice) if it is noticed in one or more independent, reliable, and verifiable sources. Watchbotx ( talk) 08:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • DELETE - A sure Delete for me. It is estimated that around 500,000 earthquakes occur each year, detectable with current instrumentation. About 100,000 of these can be felt. Magnitude of less than 4 is minor and minor earthquakes occur nearly constantly around the world. Also no fatalities or impacts. TJ aka 08:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) ( talk)
  • Keep There's no question it has enough sources to meet WP:GNG]. If 500k other earthquakes get news coverage, they can have articles too. Wikipedia isn't out of disk space. XeroxKleenex ( talk) 09:31, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The notability test for an earthquake is not just "has sources", because every earthquake always has sources: if it's felt by the general public at all, then one or more local news stories will always exist about that, and even if it isn't felt by the general public, the National Earthquake Center's database (which records every earthquake that happens at all) will always still have an entry. But our role here is not to simply replicate the federal earthquake database by indiscriminately maintaining an article about every single earthquake that occurs — our role is to maintain articles about earthquakes that can show a genuine, ten-year test passing claim of significance (major damage, significant loss of human life, an unusual new type of earthquake activity that generates special study by seismologists, etc.), not just every earthquake that has ever happened at all.
    GNG is not just "count up the sources and keep anything that hits or exceeds two": it also takes into account factors like the depth of the coverage, the geographic range of the coverage, and the context of what the topic is getting covered for, and some types of coverage simply don't count for as much as some other types. It's the same as the reasons why unelected political candidates are not exempted from having to pass NPOL just because a handful of local campaign coverage exists; bands are not exempted from having to pass NMUSIC just because they have a couple of hits in their local hometown media about them accomplishing things of purely local interest; high school athletes are not exempted from having to pass our notability standards for sportspeople just because they had a couple of pieces of human interest coverage in their local media about their recovery from an injury; and on and so forth: GNG evaluates a lot more than just the raw number of footnotes that happen to be present. An article can have 30 footnotes and still fail GNG if those 30 footnotes all fail one or more of the depth, range and context tests. Bearcat ( talk) 13:50, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The single Earthquake might not be enough for an article, but as it was the strongest earthquake in an 18 earthquake series, the name/page should be changed to that series. Elijahandskip ( talk) 15:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Lupine Record label

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Procedural nomination: I declined WP:PROD per the guidelines because the article has been PRODed (and deleted) once before. The nominator User:Chubbles' rationale was:

Gerard Starkie is the only possibly-notable signee to this label; the others mentioned were only on a limited-edition vinyl release. The label seems only to have put out a couple of Starkie's albums and the compilation. Not "one of the more important indie labels" per WP:MUSIC

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Eep! The sourcing on that one doesn't exceed the sourcing on this deletion-worthy article. I'll add it to my rescue list. Thanks for the heads up! 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 18:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. with the sources now provided, article now fulfils WP:GEOLAND. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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It isn't content that should be on an encyclopedia. It only cites one source, isn't really full sentences, and isn't notable. Minecrafter0271 ( talk) 02:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. This discussion is not a vote, but a method of establishing consensus by making convincing arguments in the light of Wikipedia's established policies and practices. It contains many "keep" opinions, but all of them must be disregarded because they do not address the reason for which deletion is requested. That reason is alleged lack of notability ( WP:N) for lack of substantial coverage in reliable sources. In response to such a nomination, "keep" opinions must identify such coverage in order to be taken into account. But none do, as SportingFlyer points out. Instead we read things like "he's big on Youtube", "he's well known", "there are too many AfDs" and some personal attacks. The complaints about the previous AfDs, in particular, are not convincing because they all resulted in no consensus. None of these assertions address the nominator's contention that there are not enough reliable sources about this person for us to write an article about him. As such, I must treat this contention as unrebutted and therefore determinative for the outcome of this discussion. Sandstein 20:58, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Kyle Kulinski

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There is no substantial RS coverage of this person, making it near-impossible to write a Wikipedia article on him. There are only four RS (per the RSP list [16]) that mention Kulinski: two that list him as one of multiple founders of the Justice Democrats, and two Fox News pieces that note that he shared clips on Twitter defending Cenk Uygur. While the Justice Democrats are notable (as substantiated by RS coverage) and Cenk Uygur are notable (as substantiated by RS coverage), Kulinski is not (as shown by the dearth of RS coverage). A previous AfD discussion ended in "no consensus" because the subject of the article directed supporters to the AfD, creating absolute chaos in the AfD discussion. The first and second AfD discussions (which took place in 2017) were poorly attended and ended in "no consensus". Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 02:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep see my previous comments at one of the other three AfDs. One just ended Dec 19. WP:DELAFD It can be disruptive to repeatedly nominate a page in the hope of getting a different outcome. Lightburst ( talk) 03:16, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
The closer of the 3rd nomination suggested that a fourth AfD might be wise (for what it's worth, before the canvassing, the AfD vote was overwhelmingly heading towards Delete). I also brought this up on the Admin noticeboard. Nobody expressed opposition to re-doing the AfD. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 03:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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  • Redirect to Justice Democrats (seeing no need to delete the history and a redirect is inevitable since it's a notable organization he co-founded). A search for sources found a few mentions, a few quotes, and lots of primary sources, but not enough in-depth coverage about this person to satisfy WP:GNG (for the small amount of coverage there is, WP:NOPAGE applies given the very logical alternative page). Any keep argument at this point really needs to surface some additional sources. [copied/adapted from what I said last time] — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Before the subject of the article and his Reddit fan-clubs directed people to the AfD, the tally was 6 delete votes and 1 keep vote. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 14:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC) reply
You like to truncate the count, close the ballot box, toss the votes and choose the votes that suit your desired result. Your privilege I guess. But it is both wrong and unprincipled. 7&6=thirteen ( ) 15:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Being able to successfully send your followers to disrupt an AfD is not an indicator of notability to me (if it were, it would set a bad precedent and encourage more of the same). There was no controversy on the 1st and 2nd AfD – they were just poorly attended and ended in 'no consensus'. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 20:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Yes, you've made that opinion known several times. Others disagree with your assessment. What exactly is the upside of deleting an article that gets at minimum hundreds, at times many thousands, of visits per day? -Jordgette [talk] 22:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Strong Keep On principle alone, closers should never listen to JPL above. He is a constant, serial Delete vote on virtually every article. Its a thought-less reflex. I'd rather not go into further ad hominem, but its there. I'm well into my second decade of protecting content on wikipedia. There aren't enough of us doing this vs the hordes of automatons, JPL being the worst example. I got dragged into this years ago and have watched a lot of this activity. The NOM of this article seems to be a leader of a movement trying to dismiss anything associated with the Justice Democrats, including its co-founder Kulinski. A lot of (possibly paid) political operatives are pounding on any associate of another co-founder Cenk Uygur, now a congressional candidate and his extremely popular YouTube oriented network The Young Turks. Kulinski's primary show is distributed on the network. A lot of the sources reporting on Kulinski are part of the wave of "new media" outlets rather than old school sources, a concept which wikipedia needs to adapt to. Instead, this group of editors, snoogans the most active this election cycle, have been using WP:WIKILAWYERING techniques to dismiss the significance of any sources associated with this "new media." [17] [18] [19] They will respond as wikilawyers here. They blatantly remove content and sources, then report anything remaining as unsourced or poorly sourced. Gee, now this article looks disreputable, better delete it. And now after being rebuffed a third time, they didn't like mom's answer, so lets try again with dad. WP:NPOV, WP:IDON'TLIKEIT. Same editors, same techniques. They just don't like the political content Mr. Kulinski, The Young Turks and the " Bernie Would Have Won" oriented progressive movement are presenting. They are particularly aggressive now that Sanders is in the lead in 2020, slicing and dicing to remove as much of that content as possible across a variety of articles. We can't let undecided voters see this. Effectively, I believe you would call that censorship to fulfill an WP:AGENDA. Trackinfo ( talk) 21:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Saying that an editor should be ignored, is thoughtless, has a political agenda, advocates for censorship, and might be engaging in UPE, certainly constitutes a personal attack. You should delete this comment. BubbaJoe123456 ( talk) 20:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Look at this: In the time it took me to write above, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media coverage of Bernie Sanders (3rd nomination) appeared, again. Same stuff, different day. And actually, because of the way that article has been perverted since its initial creation, I might just support deletion, in favor of recreating the proper version of that content. Trackinfo ( talk) 21:29, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - It's remarkable that in lieu of any substance/sourcing, most of the keep !votes thus far are based entirely on ad hominem/wikilawyering, whether that those who don't think he should have a stand-alone article are part of some secret conspiracy, or pushing an agenda, or that it shouldn't have been renominated (despite the closing statement of the previous nom), or that someone's opinion should be discounted because they only !vote one way (which is technically true, but just an ad hominem, and ironically raised by someone who only !votes one way and misses the mark about three times as often). Still waiting for actual evidence of in depth coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject that justify a stand-alone article rather than inheriting notability from the org he founded... (also, btw, I had never heard of this person until coming across the AfD -- I often look through relisted/renominated XfDs) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:42, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I first heard of Kyle Kulinski just before I created the 3rd AfD nomination (I didn't nominate him the 1st and 2nd time). I wanted to learn more about him, found that his Wikipedia page was entirely barren of reliable content, and that I was incapable of finding any RS content to actually add to his page. Thus, I nominated the page for deletion. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 22:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I also wasn't familiar with him either until the last nomination. As someone who votes at a lot of political AfDs, he simply does not meet our requirements based on the available sourcing. If there's someone who wants to bring sources to the discussion, I'd be happy to listen. SportingFlyer T· C 00:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I've just added more sources that these other people somehow can't seem to find. I think I've already added ten to this article. I've seen the substance behind the subject. I've also watched the unwarranted attacks on this content and above have reported on the patterns of behavior that would become obvious to any unclouded observer. I've developed quite a sarcastic attitude to the repetition. Here we go again. Trackinfo ( talk) 04:57, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Snoogans is so aggressive in his attempt to deplete this article of sources, that here he deleted a segment discussing the oft quoted tweets by Kulinski, including a piece by the Washington Examiner that spends several paragraphs attacking Kulinski, because the sources quote tweets. How absurd is that? Contemporary "new media' stars use tweets and other social media to expand their message. The fact that sources quote those tweets show their significance well above and beyond some bozo telling what he ate for dinner. The current president rules by tweet. He literally tells his every thought by tweet. Stephen Colbert spends more than half his monologue quoting those tweets every night. Are you going to AfD Colbert now? Trackinfo ( talk) 06:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • None of the sources you added are reliable sources. They're either retweets or very brief mentions that he has a show. There's still nothing in the article that passes WP:GNG. You're also welcome to link to the sources in this AfD discussion so we can review them more easily if you find any more. SportingFlyer T· C 08:13, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • You're really bringing in another ad hominem because snoogans removed this?? To an already contentious subject you added an opinion column in the Washington Examiner in which the author says nothing at all about Kulinski apart from using his tweet to make point? Even if it were a good source, it doesn't do anything for notability. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Would the Washington Examiner spend its time trashing a tweet by a non-notable bum off the street? Of course not. They raised his tweet as a (negative) example because he was a significant political commentator from the opposite persuasion. Trackinfo ( talk) 09:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
It's clearly not significant coverage, which doesn't contribute to notability. SportingFlyer T· C 11:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
There is no notability criterion of "has written a tweet that annoyed someone at the Washington Examiner enough to write up a little rant about it". So many of these !votes are trying to find a good indicator of notability (number of subscribers, a tweet being responded to in the Examiner, etc.) but nobody has actually found notability in the form of in-depth coverage in good sources. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:49, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
The Washington Post refers to him as a "internet idol." [20] Is that a reliable source? Trackinfo ( talk) 03:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
That article doesn't count towards WP:GNG since it only name-drops him once, and we require coverage to be significant. But it is reliable, and if you can find a couple more like those which discuss him significantly, that would change the nature of the discussion. SportingFlyer T· C 04:08, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Well-known in political and media spheres, highly influential, and ever-increasing media presence. This article literally just survived another deletion nomination, and has been nominated repeatedly in the past yet remained. Use to repeat nominations to hinder productivity, and even punitively (threatening another burecratic nomination if other people edit the article in a way they don't like) is inappropriate and problematic IMHO.-- PlanespotterA320 ( talk) 22:54, 27 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Request - Per WP:THREE, would an editor please list the best 3 sources which provide substantial, independent, secondary coverage of the article subject? - Ryk72 talk 09:06, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep If you don't like how the previous AFD ended, the same editor who nominated it shouldn't be able to do it yet again a month later. This is ridiculous! This should be closed for wasting everyone's time. Also the article says he has over 645 million YouTube views, so he easily passes the subject specific guideline for WP:ENTERTAINER. "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." Dream Focus 15:05, 28 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep clearly passes WP:GNG and he is a well known political journalist who also got fame for criticising Trump's administration. Wikipedia has a list of articles about commentators and journalists who might not have even passed WP:GNG. The subject is notable enough but the article needs much improvement and work. Abishe ( talk) 06:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I've wondered why we had no article on this guy. Now I'm starting to understand a few things... I'm not knowledgeable enough to have anything new to add, but will instead refer to editor Trackinfo where I learned a lot... Like many young articles, it can use some improvement. Gandydancer ( talk) 19:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Snooganssnoogans, Rhododendrites, SportingFlyer. Ryk72 and John Pack Lambert have made good points in their review of the reliable sources. This is not significant coverage. We don't go by total views,the total subscribers is still under 1 million which makes it a minor channel in YouTube terms. There simply isn't enough reliably sourced content yet for an encyclopedia article. Kulinski may generate enough press to meet WP:GNG in the future but right now it's WP:TOOSOON. Dartslilly ( talk) 19:58, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Keep. I !voted to Delete in the last AfD due to the lack of reliable significant coverage. Again, I still think this is the case in this situation as the subject as not reached significant coverage from reliable sources. However, the fact this has been nominated so soon after the last AfD in an attempt to get it deleted does not sit well with me.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 22:45, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • This is mentioned above, but the admin who closed the previous nomination was explicit about this in the closing statement: perhaps folks could also consider a new AFD discussion that is protected from the get-go. That's what this is. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:00, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Clearly doesn't meet GNG. Redirect to Justice Democrats would make sense. BubbaJoe123456 ( talk) 23:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The claim above that I always vote delete is demonstrably false. The ad hominen attacks on well reasoned votes is unjustified, and the beligerent's towards people who do not let Wikipedia be filled up with poorly sourced articles on people of non-notability is unjustified. Well, I should say who seek to change the status quo of Wikipedia being filled with poorly sourced articles on non-notable living individuals. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:26, 30 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment There's still not a single keep !voter here who has discussed which sources actually show notability. SportingFlyer T· C 04:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Uh, like, all of them . . . and all of the censored deleted ones are well. We have a swath of sources that were removed because they quoted tweets. That is a large part of what Kulinski does to promote his show. His tweets would not be quoted by other Reliable sources unless they were relevant and he was a notable figure. Trackinfo ( talk) 07:08, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
I'm afraid that's not true about the sources. There are currently five links to external pages on this page and only one of them is to a source which only mentioned him in passing. Tweets are primary and are in no way reliable, and you're even admitting they're purely promotional. Neither of those demonstrate notability. There's not much that's been changed since the last AfD, which the closer noted was much closer to delete in spite of the canvassing concerns. If you want to post sources that pass WP:GNG, I'd be happy to review them, but not a single keep !voter has done that so far. SportingFlyer T· C 09:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
These articles are reviewed and maintained by a team of volunteers. These sources don't show the kind of the significant coverage editors want for biographies about living persons. BLPs require more community resources to maintain than probably any other type of article and that this one is mostly promotional at this stage is not even being disputed. It's just TOOSOON. Dartslilly ( talk) 13:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:44, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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Primarily a list of winners of its awards. I am not a good judge of notability here due to my unfamiliarity with the topic, but this feels like it may not meet WP:GNG. Raymie ( tc) 01:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Amateur radio operating award. Except Logbook of The World. Content can be merged from history if desired. Sandstein 20:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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the same arguments apply to both all of these articles. These are both all sourced from sources which are either the contest's own website, amateur radio blogs, or the websites of entities which are closely associated with the contests (i.e. ARRL, RSGB) and are thus not WP:INDEPENDENT. My own searching didn't find anything better. There's also Draft:Parks on the Air, which I'm not formally including in this AfD since it's a draft, but basically this all applies there as well.

There's a few others in Category:Amateur radio operating awards, but the ones I've noted above seem the most egregious. For example, Jamboree on the Air, has a couple of good WP:RS (Irish Times, Christian Science Monitor) and thus qualifies for WP:GNG on its own.

As an WP:ATD, it might make sense to merge these all into Amateur radio operating award, which could be expanded to include a section on each one. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Updated: Upon further research, I've added most of Category:Amateur radio operating awards. All of these articles suffer from the same problem of non WP:RS sourcing, and have significant overlap. They would all be better covered in a combined article. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 00:21, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Logbook of The World is not an operating award so should not be included in this list.-- Harumphy ( talk) 16:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
It suffers the same poor sourcing problems as the other articles, but you are correct that it's different from the others so I've struck it from the nomination. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Merge The eight awards in the nom should be combined as separate sections of Amateur radio operating award to retain the images and references for each. Amateur radio is a somewhat esoteric and technical hobby and will always have the sourcing problem identified in the nom. Nonetheless, several million persons are licensed amateurs globally and the hobby has resulted in STEM careers for many. Dhpage ( talk) 01:30, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
Just for the record, I think ham radio is great. I never got my license (mostly because when I was a kid, I didn't have the patience to learn morse code), but I do remember building a Heathkit receiver when I was in high school (googling around a bit now, I'm thinking HR-10B). I didn't have the theory at the time to actually understand how it worked, but I still remember the feeling of amazement when I powered it up for the first time and it worked! But, still, WP:GNG and WP:RS rule the day here. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:36, 29 January 2020 (UTC) reply
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