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Money is more important for men and $9 an hour is way too much to pay poor people...
I was working on the War on women article where I copied this quote, "You could argue that money is more important for men. I think a guy in their first job, maybe because they expect to be a breadwinner someday, may be a little more money-conscious.", spoken by a Wisconsin state senator who supports Gov. Scott Walker's repeal of a law that protected workers from pay discrimination. His words brought my mind way back to the time that my beloved Aunt Rose, who had never married, retired after spending her entire working life (except for one year) as the city clerk and librarian of a small town in northern Minnesota. When Aunt Rose retired a man was hired to replace her. He started at a higher salary than Aunt Rose retired at because as a "breadwinner", he needed it. He didn't have to take care of the library either--"too distracting" they said.
That one year that Aunt Rose did not spend as the city clerk? She was a teacher that year. Aunt Rose was born with a disability, most likely caused by a stroke as she was being born. As a result she had a slight limp and little use of her left hand. Of course, like most children born with physical impairments, there was little that she was unable to do compared with other children. When she graduated with honors from high school she wanted to go to teachers college but was unsure because of her disability, so she went and talked to the school principal. He told her that it would not prevent the school from hiring her. So she went to school at the new Duluth teachers college and went away to South Dakota for her practice teaching. She came home and did teach for a year, but at the end of the school year the principal took her aside and told her that they would not be hiring her for the second year because of "her hand". She protested saying that it had not seemed to prevent her from teaching but the principal persisted saying, "But Rose, we wouldn't want to hurt the children, would we?"--as though seeing her weak hand would somehow damage the children. I get both angry and saddened to tears every time I recall this...
My Aunt Rose cared for me and my sister after our birth mother, a Duluth college graduate as well, died from a strange disease. Almost nobody has heard of this disease, but Wikipedia knows... Imagine my delight when I typed "sleeping sickness" (over 15 years ago! - how time flies!) and was led to the article Encephalitis lethargica. I love my mother and I love Wikipedia for not forgetting her. I feel that I celebrate and honor my mother Julia, my Aunt Rose, and my family heritage when I work on Minnesota articles. I honor my father and my youth when I write Colorado articles. I celebrate my gender by working on many woman-connected topics. I volunteer my time to work for a political system that provides for all, not only the rich white people. I edit against the growing problem of environmental pollution and unchecked corporate power. And I try to enjoy my time here and have fun. It's all time well-spent. ( talk) 16:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
A warning from Chris Hedges
Corporations write our legislation. They control our systems of information. They manage the political theater of electoral politics and impose our educational curriculum. They have turned the judiciary into one of their wholly owned subsidiaries. They have decimated labor unions and other independent mass organizations, as well as having bought off the Democratic Party, which once defended the rights of workers. With the evisceration of piecemeal and incremental reform—the primary role of liberal, democratic institutions—we are left defenseless against corporate power. ~ Chris Hedges
"They control our systems of information." Surely no one could be so naive as to believe that corporations do not have an interest in turning our encyclopedia into a corporate-approved encyclopedia.
Best diff ever (thanks to Barneca)
I don't know where you people think you are, but you definitely don't understand how WP:AN is supposed to work. Where's the disrespect? The attacking of each other's characters and motives? The entertaining temper tantrums? Please immediately review other threads on this noticeboard, so you can better participate in WP:AN. Right now you look like rookies. :I'm sorry, but you two appear to be:
- treating each other civilly
- accepting the possibility that your own actions might not have been correct
- trying to work out the best thing to do for the project without concern for you own egos.
I don't do AFD, so I have no opinion on whether to relist or not (couldn't hurt, tho, right?), but that's a good example of what should be going on here; useless babble without any helpful outcome. -- barneca ( talk) 02:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[ [1]]
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COI in research:
AllTrials
The ties between industry and university grows ever stronger (Paul J. van den Brink and neonic study): [2]
[3] How well is the EPA doing?
Wikipedia:Biomedical information
Sugar Industry Influence on the Scientific Agenda of the National Institute of Dental Research’s 1971 National Caries Program: A Historical Analysis of Internal Documents— PLOS Medicine
Education: [4]
Predatory open access publishing
Responsible conduct of research [6]
[7] Drug Data Shouldn't be Secret
[8] Medical Research Funding
[9] Seed companies control GM crop research
[10] Cash interests taint drug advice
[11] Ghost writers
[12] How objective are systematic reviews? Differences between reviews on complementary medicine
[13] A review article: A critical assessment of organic farming-and-food assertions with particular respect to the UK and the potential environmental benefits of no-till agriculture (They don't mention that Prof Trewavas is also a GM crop scientist, as well as a fervent opponent of organic farming, or that he is notorious for his attacks on scientists who publish research critical of GM. ~ GM Watch)
What is peer review and how it can go wrong
The Problem of Biased Data and Potential Solutions for Health and Environmental Assessments
Regulatory capture ~ An excellent Wikipedia article
Medical journals: [14] "When leading journals such as the NEJM publish studies that are not independent and objective, when the authors of such studies receive compensation and writing assistance from drug and device companies, practicing physicians and the public alike will no longer trust them."
Useful stuff
Using YouTube: The documentation you are looking for is at Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites. The answer to your question is: You should evaluate the source according to who posted it, not according to which software service they're using. If you're looking at a reputable television news show that happens to have an official channel on YouTube, then it's fine (assuming that it's something you'd cite to that news story by them anyway. We don't really care whether BBC News is posting at bbcnews.com or in their channel on YouTube). If it's not the official channel of a traditional publisher, then evaluate it like you would if it was on their own website, e.g., yes to official websites/blogs/videos and no to personal websites/blogs/vlogs/videos uploaded to YouTube. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 02:49, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle
Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style Wikipedia:Interviews
Image requested|in=Minnesota}} in the talk page, which adds the article to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Minnesota.
Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources
NOTES
Emotionsl ☻ [15]
PubMed Central [16]
The Comma Page: [17]
The most helpful user page ever [ [18]]
Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard [19]
Anna's handy page [20]
Judy's cakes [21]
Wikipedia:Tagging pages for problems
Google [24]
DoJ [25]
Wikipedia:How many Wikipedians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Guide to Grammar and Style, etc. [26] Sourcewatch [ [27]]
How the 50-year-old campaign against Silent Spring still distorts environmental debates. [28]
To do list:
For the Till article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8084210.stm and photographs [29] (dedicated to his mom on last page) Cave painting - Theories and interpretations section Neanderthals [ [30]] Drugs [31] [32] Pesticide registration
"If we can't have a bit of fun in Wikipedia without a lot of hand wringing, we're going in the wrong direction." ~ Jimbo Wales, 2018
| An editor thinks something is wrong with this page. They can't be bothered to fix it, but they think that they've done their encyclopedic duty by
sticking tags or even
tagbombing it. Please allow these tags to decorate indefinitely the page, since nobody can decipher what the tags mean. |
- Thanks to Dr.K. for this tag
Money is more important for men and $9 an hour is way too much to pay poor people...
I was working on the War on women article where I copied this quote, "You could argue that money is more important for men. I think a guy in their first job, maybe because they expect to be a breadwinner someday, may be a little more money-conscious.", spoken by a Wisconsin state senator who supports Gov. Scott Walker's repeal of a law that protected workers from pay discrimination. His words brought my mind way back to the time that my beloved Aunt Rose, who had never married, retired after spending her entire working life (except for one year) as the city clerk and librarian of a small town in northern Minnesota. When Aunt Rose retired a man was hired to replace her. He started at a higher salary than Aunt Rose retired at because as a "breadwinner", he needed it. He didn't have to take care of the library either--"too distracting" they said.
That one year that Aunt Rose did not spend as the city clerk? She was a teacher that year. Aunt Rose was born with a disability, most likely caused by a stroke as she was being born. As a result she had a slight limp and little use of her left hand. Of course, like most children born with physical impairments, there was little that she was unable to do compared with other children. When she graduated with honors from high school she wanted to go to teachers college but was unsure because of her disability, so she went and talked to the school principal. He told her that it would not prevent the school from hiring her. So she went to school at the new Duluth teachers college and went away to South Dakota for her practice teaching. She came home and did teach for a year, but at the end of the school year the principal took her aside and told her that they would not be hiring her for the second year because of "her hand". She protested saying that it had not seemed to prevent her from teaching but the principal persisted saying, "But Rose, we wouldn't want to hurt the children, would we?"--as though seeing her weak hand would somehow damage the children. I get both angry and saddened to tears every time I recall this...
My Aunt Rose cared for me and my sister after our birth mother, a Duluth college graduate as well, died from a strange disease. Almost nobody has heard of this disease, but Wikipedia knows... Imagine my delight when I typed "sleeping sickness" (over 15 years ago! - how time flies!) and was led to the article Encephalitis lethargica. I love my mother and I love Wikipedia for not forgetting her. I feel that I celebrate and honor my mother Julia, my Aunt Rose, and my family heritage when I work on Minnesota articles. I honor my father and my youth when I write Colorado articles. I celebrate my gender by working on many woman-connected topics. I volunteer my time to work for a political system that provides for all, not only the rich white people. I edit against the growing problem of environmental pollution and unchecked corporate power. And I try to enjoy my time here and have fun. It's all time well-spent. ( talk) 16:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
A warning from Chris Hedges
Corporations write our legislation. They control our systems of information. They manage the political theater of electoral politics and impose our educational curriculum. They have turned the judiciary into one of their wholly owned subsidiaries. They have decimated labor unions and other independent mass organizations, as well as having bought off the Democratic Party, which once defended the rights of workers. With the evisceration of piecemeal and incremental reform—the primary role of liberal, democratic institutions—we are left defenseless against corporate power. ~ Chris Hedges
"They control our systems of information." Surely no one could be so naive as to believe that corporations do not have an interest in turning our encyclopedia into a corporate-approved encyclopedia.
Best diff ever (thanks to Barneca)
I don't know where you people think you are, but you definitely don't understand how WP:AN is supposed to work. Where's the disrespect? The attacking of each other's characters and motives? The entertaining temper tantrums? Please immediately review other threads on this noticeboard, so you can better participate in WP:AN. Right now you look like rookies. :I'm sorry, but you two appear to be:
- treating each other civilly
- accepting the possibility that your own actions might not have been correct
- trying to work out the best thing to do for the project without concern for you own egos.
I don't do AFD, so I have no opinion on whether to relist or not (couldn't hurt, tho, right?), but that's a good example of what should be going on here; useless babble without any helpful outcome. -- barneca ( talk) 02:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[ [1]]
| This user is a
participant in WikiProject Minnesota. |
|
| This user is a
participant in WikiProject Colorado. |
| This user has been editing Wikipedia for more than 15 years. |
|
| This user is a participant in WikiProject Environment. |
COI in research:
AllTrials
The ties between industry and university grows ever stronger (Paul J. van den Brink and neonic study): [2]
[3] How well is the EPA doing?
Wikipedia:Biomedical information
Sugar Industry Influence on the Scientific Agenda of the National Institute of Dental Research’s 1971 National Caries Program: A Historical Analysis of Internal Documents— PLOS Medicine
Education: [4]
Predatory open access publishing
Responsible conduct of research [6]
[7] Drug Data Shouldn't be Secret
[8] Medical Research Funding
[9] Seed companies control GM crop research
[10] Cash interests taint drug advice
[11] Ghost writers
[12] How objective are systematic reviews? Differences between reviews on complementary medicine
[13] A review article: A critical assessment of organic farming-and-food assertions with particular respect to the UK and the potential environmental benefits of no-till agriculture (They don't mention that Prof Trewavas is also a GM crop scientist, as well as a fervent opponent of organic farming, or that he is notorious for his attacks on scientists who publish research critical of GM. ~ GM Watch)
What is peer review and how it can go wrong
The Problem of Biased Data and Potential Solutions for Health and Environmental Assessments
Regulatory capture ~ An excellent Wikipedia article
Medical journals: [14] "When leading journals such as the NEJM publish studies that are not independent and objective, when the authors of such studies receive compensation and writing assistance from drug and device companies, practicing physicians and the public alike will no longer trust them."
Useful stuff
Using YouTube: The documentation you are looking for is at Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites. The answer to your question is: You should evaluate the source according to who posted it, not according to which software service they're using. If you're looking at a reputable television news show that happens to have an official channel on YouTube, then it's fine (assuming that it's something you'd cite to that news story by them anyway. We don't really care whether BBC News is posting at bbcnews.com or in their channel on YouTube). If it's not the official channel of a traditional publisher, then evaluate it like you would if it was on their own website, e.g., yes to official websites/blogs/videos and no to personal websites/blogs/vlogs/videos uploaded to YouTube. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 02:49, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle
Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style Wikipedia:Interviews
Image requested|in=Minnesota}} in the talk page, which adds the article to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Minnesota.
Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources
NOTES
Emotionsl ☻ [15]
PubMed Central [16]
The Comma Page: [17]
The most helpful user page ever [ [18]]
Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard [19]
Anna's handy page [20]
Judy's cakes [21]
Wikipedia:Tagging pages for problems
Google [24]
DoJ [25]
Wikipedia:How many Wikipedians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Guide to Grammar and Style, etc. [26] Sourcewatch [ [27]]
How the 50-year-old campaign against Silent Spring still distorts environmental debates. [28]
To do list:
For the Till article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8084210.stm and photographs [29] (dedicated to his mom on last page) Cave painting - Theories and interpretations section Neanderthals [ [30]] Drugs [31] [32] Pesticide registration