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Vennli

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Fails the notability guideline for companies. Coverage in purely local sources or from alumni publications does not contribute to notability. – Tera tix 17:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Archie Vaughan

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So what exactly makes this guy notable? Being the son of Michael Vaughan, is all I can tell. He hasn't played cricket at a senior level and hasn't done anything of note in cricket to warrant inclusion. No amount of WP:ROUTINE refbombs can hide that he is a WP:GNG fail. AA ( talk) 17:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep. I don’t understand whether he has already played for Somerset and the England U19 to pass WP:NCRIC, but signing a contract with the club and being called up to the U19 team is being covered in the media, which indicates the passage WP:SIGCOV. I will list several secondary sources, you can easily find more [1] [2] [3] Tau Corvi ( talk) 14:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
But why is that notable? Plenty of people get signed by major sports teams and never go onto do anything. Is the bar really set this low? Again, if his father wasn't a famous cricketer, he would not get any coverage. AA ( talk) 22:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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6 Engineer Squadron

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The subject of the article does not seem to be notable. There is a lack of independent references provided. PercyPigUK ( talk) 11:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep As one would expect for such an old unit, there's numerous references to the unit in the media throughout the wars. Even a 1946 book, and discussion in numerous other books about operations in both World Wars as they participated in battles like Vimy Ridge and on Juno Beach on D-Day. The German execution of three captured prisoners (2 from this unit) at the hands of Wilhelm Mohnke in 1944 gets media attention, such as ProQuest  239462705 and also discussed in a book. Nfitz ( talk) 16:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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DWAD-TV

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This was marked as {{ db-hoax}} by Myrabert01. Not sure whether it is a hoax or not, but it is certainly unsourced and was until recently about a different station of the same name. Expert attention needed to decide what should be done here. See also the talk page. — Kusma ( talk) 15:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Death of Jay Slater

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This seems like a prime example of NOTNEWS to me; there is no indication that this is an event that rises to encyclopedic notability, and the history is replete with the removal of excessive tabloid-style detail and suggestion. Pinging the three editors that weighed in at WP:BLPN: notwally, Bon courage, DeCausa. Drmies ( talk) 16:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of shooting ranges in Akershus

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WP:NOTDIRECTORY. As noted in discussion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shooting ranges in Norway, this fails WP:LISTCRITERIA. It's a nice list and interesting geodata... but not encyclopaedic content. Hemmers ( talk) 16:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Air Malta destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, and plain old common sense.

Let's start with common sense: why on earth do we have an article listing destinations that Air Malta DOES NOT FLY TO! Every destination here is listed as "terminated" or "Airport Closed"!

WP:NOT is failed under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". This is a straight forward listing of services that Air Malta possibly provided at some point but now no longer does.

WP:NCORP is failed because there is no evidence at all that the services offered by Air Malta are a notable topic based on reliable, independent, third-party sources that would meet WP:ORGIND. I could go through every single one of the sources cited but there is little point in repeating the same statement over and over - these are all either company announcements, or reports in local/industry press based entirely on company press-releases and statements. For example the Malta Today story is based entirely on a statement by a company spokesman.

This is also original research. None of these sources show that these flights were offered (or terminated) in January 2023. This can be said because none of the sources are dated to January 2023 - some are later, some are anything up to a decade or more earlier.

This is essentially an article entirely about run-of-the-mill announcements about services from a company that can change from one week to the next. It is the equivalent of an article trying to list the locations of all Burger Kings in August 1987 or all Pizza Huts in December 1998. Simply the worst kind of indiscriminate information. FOARP ( talk) 16:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete indiscriminate list of services possibly provided at some point in time, per nom.

News9 Plus

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AfDed per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/News9Live Twinkle1990 ( talk) 15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Civic technology companies

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Largely redundant of civic technology and dubious sources throughout. The list is largely non-notable organizations. Anything useful here could be merged into civic technology. ZimZalaBim talk 15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Khais Millen

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Immediately refunded after soft deletion in 2023 but no change to address concerns in first AfD. Film writer/director who does not pass WP:GNG, WP:NCREATIVE, WP:NBIO. Most sources are [WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS]] if they mention him at all; there's an interview that's a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE and a single example of WP:SIGCOV that exhibits all the hallmarks of unreliable content of WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Not enough to pass. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 15:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep: fairly meets WP:DIRECTOR AND WP:CREATIVE with at least 3 2 notable films directed and 3 2 written (not mentioning the fact he produced. 2); the said films are notable creations that received independent and in-depth coverage mentioning him. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    What part of WP:DIRECTOR are you referring to with "three notable films"? (Only two films he has been involved in even have en-wiki pages and only one of those he directed.) The only criterion I could plausibly see cited is "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work," but there's no evidence that any of his works are "significant or well-known." Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I consider his debut film as director notable enough. See coverage about it online. It has no page yet on WP, true. Added 2 links to the article. Writer: my bad, I had counted Lipstick, which is a short. Even if it's only two or even if it it was only one, he would pass both SNGs because these works can be considered significant, as coverage shows. I'll leave it at that as he is a really clear pass imv.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) (number of significant films; clarification: 3 or 4 films including 2 directed (Thala; and I count Aakashvani), 2 written (Adithattu and Thala, to which one can add again Aakashvani)); the 1st has received a significant award and is clearly significant imv).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment on the opening assertion in the nomination: sorry but no change to address concerns in first AfD is an inaccurate statement.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Fine, no substantive change. The addition of WP:TRIVIALMENTION citations does not address the concerns in the AfD. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I beg to differ. If those mentions (trivial or not) allow to verify he had an essential role in notable productions they do address the concerns, especially as one mentioned the award for Best Second film that was not mentioned before, unless I am mistaken. I remember checking them (or even adding some) myself back then. I should leave it at that that, as I had said, sorry. Thanks, anyway. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Girish Tanti

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WP:NOTRESUME. Fails WP:GNG WP:BASIC. Initially, I tried to draftify the page, but there is already a rejected draft in existence. Charlie ( talk) 15:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Michael Lejsek

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Redirect to Czech Republic at the 2022 Winter Olympics#Luge as I could not find enough in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG. I've checked corresponding Wikipedia article in other languages, especially the Czech one that might help copy over English article, but none of them provide significant coverage on him. One-time Olympics participant, Lejsek was not even one of the three luge medalists in pre-mentioned tournament either. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 15:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Iain McKee

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG - a WP:BEFORE search turned up no focused coverage, just passing mentions in coverage about projects he was associated with in some way. Also does not appear to meet WP:NACTOR as his roles are mostly non-significant. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) Talk to Me! 14:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of permanent Ambisonic playback systems

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Wikipedia is not a directory this article contains very few internal links to notable articles, all that is included is external links, which has become a means of promotion. There is nothing encyclopedic about this article that is currently worth saving VViking Talk Edits 14:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of anthropogenic disasters by death toll

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This whole article is one long mess, which if you look at the talk page has been very contentious for years. It's heavily biased in many ways and doesn't appear to have any clear rules regarding what is actually included. It describes itself as a list of events with a "measurable drop in human population" yet also contains many events with as few as 40 deaths, and repeats itself at multiple points, such as listing "Various Fascist/Marxist leaders" as distinct events along with each major leader as a unique event. All in all this article is unnecessary, as it contains nothing that is not duplicated on other better articles such as List of wars by death toll. I fully believe WP:TNT applies here. CoconutOctopus talk 13:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Indian prime ministerial firsts

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WP:NOTTRIVIA, does not meet WP:LISTN. Along the same lines as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States vice presidential firsts. signed, Rosguill talk 13:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Anthony Akinwunmi Richards

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There are no enough reliable sources to establish WP:PRODUCER. Ibjaja055 ( talk) 12:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Enterprise Group (Ghana)

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This company does not meet any notability requirement. In the article's current form, all sources are primary and there is nothing out there to indicate notability per before search Ednabrenze ( talk) 08:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Ľubomír Bajtoš

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Another long-unsourced stub regarding a Slovak men's footballer who played a total of 47 minutes before suddenly disappearing in 1999. SME might be the best reliable secondary source that mentions his name, but it's only in an image caption which does not count towards significant coverage. Article fails WP:GNG overall. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 11:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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International Anarchist Congresses

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In a previous iteration of this article, it consisted of a list of various different congresses held by different organisations with little tying them together but the broad "anarchist" label. That list was recently dynamited by Czar, leaving nothing but a contextless list of congresses of the International Workingmen's Association, which I don't think have ever been described as "anarchist congresses" in any sources (the IWMA consisted of various different socialist tendencies, not just anarchists). As this article would, at best, be a random list of various, disconnected congresses for different disconnected organisations; and as it is utterly worthless in its current state, I'm recommending the article be deleted. Grnrchst ( talk) 11:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • There might be a case for creating a list of anarchist congresses but we'd have to do some digging for sourcing. Or that might be a better job for a category. czar 13:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Since there's useful stuff in the page history and the topic is broadly notable we should be avoiding deletion if possible. A list is better than a category in this case, I think, since the entries will need more context to be useful (as noted by nom, the current state of the article isn't useful because it lacks that context). We also have a lot of incoming links here. Even in this extremely reduced state, it does at least have some "see also" that are relevant to the topic at hand. I agree with czar that it's not great to have unsourced sections hanging around forever, but I think deleting the whole thing is an unnecessary amount of TNT. -- asilvering ( talk) 17:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Speaking of incoming links, @ czar, a bunch of the links aim at one of the sections you TNT'd. I think we might be able to source at least a skeleton of this to Skirda - but is there an easier way to search in the "what links here" results that I'm missing? I'd like to find the ones that redirect to a particular section without having to scroll through hundreds of results. -- asilvering ( talk) 17:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Special:WhatLinksHere/International_Anarchist_Congresses showed the redirects and the sections they targeted. I cleaned up a bunch that should have been pointing to Anti-authoritarian International article sections. czar 18:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Firmex

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Fails WP:NCORP. Tristancr ( talk) 12:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Marc Douglas Berardo

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None of the sources here are ones I know to be reliable, and most appear to be small/local coverage. Nothing else here suggests an NBAND pass. One of his albums is already up for a separate AfD as well. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 12:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

No Depression is reliable source. It is a highly respected music magazine. MarySue Twohy is program director at Sirius XM. Folk Dj is a international organization with a radio station It's part of Folk Alliance International. I believe he meets the criteria for having a single on national music chart if you consider Folk Alliance International https://www.folkradio.org/ Currently his new record is currently #24 on this chart. Two of his vidoes for singles were reviewed by Americana Highways, another respectable music publication although they are not listed in this article. The festivals that he won or was finalist are national competitions Lyle Lovett and Nanci Griffith were finalists at Kerrville. Most of the other references such as who he performed with were added to support a statement as being true. I agree it needs to be updated, but I not deleted. Performer Research ( talk) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I don't think Folk Alliance International would be considered a valid chart as I would assume it falls under SINGLEVENDOR. No Depression should be reliable and Americana Highways is as far as I know (bit surprised to see neither listed at RSMUSIC), but it's still a bit limited. This could be turned around though. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
It would also help if you could link to the Americana Highways articles and any others you bring up that aren't already present. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hubertus van der Vaart

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Have carried out WP:BEFORE for this unreferenced article about a businessperson, and not found independent, reliable sources to add. I don't think he meets WP:GNG, WP:NBUSINESSPEOPLE or WP:ANYBIO. Tacyarg ( talk) 11:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sexual Chocolate

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There are no Wikipedia pages by this title to disambiguate. Gjs238 ( talk) 11:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Celebrations4u

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All the sources mentioned in the article are part of regular brand promotions/ interviews/ PRs. No significant coverage from independent sources. Fails GNG Jeraxmoira🐉 ( talk) 10:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Vietnam Airlines destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP.

Specifically this is a catalogue of the services of a company and as such is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". This is essentially an article entirely about run-of-the-mill announcements about services from a company, the equivalent of an article trying to list the locations of all Burger Kings or Pizza Huts. Any information that is not simply run-of-the-mill is already included at the Vietnam Airlines article.

Other headings under WP:NOT that are failed include WP:NOTTRIVIA (since this is a listing of rapidly-changing temporary company services that can change on a scale of days/weeks), WP:IINFO (since this is an indiscriminate effort to provide a complete listing of all services offered by a company regardless of significance, instead of summarising them), WP:PROMO (since this is effectively an advert for the company's services based on sources controlled ultimately by the company), WP:NOR (since this is the compiling of a list of company services to state things not stated in the original sources - for example that services to Russia are terminated now because they were suspended in 2022, or that services to Tegel were previously operated when the source only says that Tegel is now shut, and more broadly that all of these services are operating now when the sources are only true for the date they were published), WP:NOTGUIDE (since this is effectively a travel guide), WP:NOTNEWS (since this appears to be an attempt to create a list of up-to-the-minute services offered by the company), and WP:CRYSTAL (since nearly every announcement used discusses plans to start doing something in the future, and since dates in the future are included - for example announcements for October 2024).

WP:NCORP is also failed. Most of the listings here are unsourced, and realistically cannot be sourced from anywhere but the company website, press-releases, company spokespeople, or other sources controlled by the company, meaning that it automatically fails WP:ORGIND, because this information cannot be obtained from a source independent of the company.

That this is true can be seen from the sources provided in the article. Going through these one-by-one we get:

  1. The Vietnam Airlines website
  2. A Saigon Times article about a government announcement about restructuring of the airline that does not mention any destinations
  3. A profile in industry-press based entirely on information from the airline
  4. The Vietnam Airlines website
  5. An industry-press article based on a company press-release
  6. A local news story based on a company press-release
  7. A link to the Berlin airport website saying that Tegel airport has been shut down - the conclusion that Vietnam airlines ever flew here is not supported and basically OR
  8. An announcement about future plans in industry press, with comments from the CEO of Munich airport who are obviously also not independent of the airline as they are a business-partner of theirs
  9. An announcement in government-controlled press about flights to India, since Vietnam Airlines is state-owned and managed by a board appointed by the government this is not independent
  10. Announcements from the company about future plans relayed via Aeroroutes, which is a blog/industry press, and also not significant coverage since it so short
  11. Another Aeroroutes link regarding future plans
  12. A short Reuters piece about flights to Moscow being suspended in 2022 based on an announcement in Vietnamese state-owned press - not significant coverage of the topic of the destinations since it is so short and is anyway not reliably and independently sourced. Additionally this does not support the statement that flights are terminated now in 2024 so this is OR.
  13. Another brief Aeroroutes link about future plans
  14. A Condé Nast travel-magazine article based on a statement from the Vietnam Airlines CEO. Whilst other sources are also quoted in the article, all of these sources ultimately track back to Vietnam Airlines - the Airline Geeks article (industry press/blog) is sourced to a company press release, the Vietnam+ article is sourced to statements by the CEO, the Twitter source is from Vietnam Airlines Twitter account. There is no independent reporting here.

As a list split from a larger article, this still needs to have stand-alone notability per WP:AVOIDSPLIT, but it clearly does not since it fails the relevant notability guide for company products and services ( WP:NCORP). FOARP ( talk) 10:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Centaur (Dungeons & Dragons)

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AfD'ed in 2007 and 2016 (both closed as keep), I closed the 2020 AfD as "delete", the article was later draftified but then moved back to main space without much change nearly 3 years later. My WP:G4 speedy nomination was declined with the note "this may yet need to face a 3rd AfD". WP:Notability per WP:GNG is still in question. This article should either be fully and officially be re-accepted in WP's D&D coverage including being listed in Template:D&D topics, or be re-deleted. – sgeureka tc 10:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Comment - That article is simply a summary of the information about Centaurs taken directly from Mythic Odysseys of Theros, and offers no actual commentary or analysis. It is simply a summary of the official information presented in the book. The same goes for this article, which is the only other one in the search that provides more than minor coverage - its simply summarizing the exact content from the official book, without a single bit of commentary or analysis. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep this is yet another iteration of the prejudice against game content in mythical creatures articles. The topic of this is article 'centaur', not 'centaurs in Dungeons & Dragons' but is maintained in a separate article due to SIZE and other considerations. Merging it all (not "delete by calling it a merge and eventually deleting all of the content") to Centaur would be most appropriate, but failing that, keeping it as a separate article focusing on the game aspect of the same topic is appropriate. Jclemens ( talk) 16:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Centaurs get their own heading in Keith Ammann's The Monsters Know What They're Doing, which in combination with the content already in the article is good enough for me. Someone might want to add content from TMKWTD, though. BD2412 T 17:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Apna Jobs

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No notability, fails NCORP, promo. Sources are not reliable. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 10:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete obviously corporate promotion, possibly using paid news? Dazzling4 ( talk) 17:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

EPACK Prefab

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Promotional company page, fails WP:NCORP. Trivial sources only. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 09:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Julian Adyeri Omalla

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not notable per WP ANYBIO guidelines. Possible original research and WP Resume. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 09:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Aave Protocol

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Not notable per sources' evaluation. Some sources are crypto-related websites. Bloomberg and TechCrunch coverage does not fulfill WP requirements. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 09:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hayate Usui

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about a martial artist, and added two references, though one is a passing mention. I do not think Usui meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMMA. Tacyarg ( talk) 08:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Geoffrey Girard

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Appears to fail WP:GNG & WP:NAUTHOR. Most sources were either WP:INTERVIEWS or simply do not establish notability. Did not find any independent reliable sources. The article itself is very promotional, and was majorly written by individuals using SPAs with a COI that are closely tied to the subject. If article is kept, it will need a major rewrite. ⁂CountHacker ( talk) 08:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Los Angeles County shootings

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This shooting does not appear to have drawn any sustained coverage outside of local routine coverage. Fails WP:NEVENT, particularly WP:LASTING. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 07:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Please consider the fact that because this happened in the United States events like these are quickly removed from the news cycle. Raskuly ( talk) 07:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete. For exactly that reason events like these are not automatically notable. Athel cb ( talk) 08:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Please consider doing this to other articles on the List of mass shootings in the United States article then since this article's deletion seems inevitable at this point right after you had my other article deleted. Raskuly ( talk) 10:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Note categories at the bottom of the article, and the navbox that has five years of shootings around the United States. Why delete this one, and keep all the rest? I'm surprised there is not a Wikipedia project for this subject. — Maile ( talk) 13:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: I agree, it never got national coverage, and so fails WP:NEVENT Carson004 ( talk) 18:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

SMK TTDI Jaya

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Article does not satisfy Wikipedia's general notability guidelines (see WP:GNG.) The school already has an article in Malay Wikipedia so an English one would be unnecessary. N niyaz ( talk) 07:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge: We should not delete the article on SMK TTDI Jaya. Yes, there is a parallel in another Wikipedia edition. Yet, each language edition has distinct readers and needs. The English version fails WP:GNG due to a lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. In that case, it may be suitable to merge the English content into a broader article about schools in the region. Or, we can draftify it until we find more sources. This approach respects the need for information on other language Wikipedias. It also maintains the quality and notability standards of English Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AstridMitch ( talkcontribs) 07:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment ms:Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan TTDI Jaya is the other article; unfortunately it is completely unsourced. Walsh90210 ( talk) 15:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Joseph James Nantomah

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Life coach, serial entrepreneur, but I don't see any significant independent coverage. The only articles I see are praising the guy's amazing skills in his voice. BrigadierG ( talk) 09:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

These three sources are not included in the article. Best, Reading Beans 10:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete We have independent coverage requirements to pass notability, and I don't see it on these sources. The links in the article, as well as the additional links suggested by @ Reading Beans do read as if they were pulled by a self-penned biography package. If you look at the PM News article from a certain angle it looks like independent reporting, possibly just paraphrasing/rewriting but more of an editorial effort. Oblivy ( talk) 10:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Oblivy, I usually and always disapprove of badgering of !votes but what is the proof of the non-independency of these sources? The tone? I just want to naively believe that it’s the tone. But is it? Best, Reading Beans 14:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
It's the way the articles just say things about him, often things that only he would know or which would be difficult to track down. And doing so without any of the the curiosity or skepticism or contextualization one might expect from an independent journalistic exercise. Oblivy ( talk) 00:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
This may sound WP:OR but there are a lot, I mean, a lot interviews out there. Do you prefer I cite interviews (which I think is where these informations were actually gotten)? As I said earlier, we always make a mistake of judging sources from Africa with Western standards. Best, Reading Beans 09:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
For the information, I am from Nigeria. Best, Reading Beans 09:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
If you have other sources that qualify for WP:GNG feel free to add them or cite them here. I had a look at each of the existing sources, plus the ones you selected above, and made my vote based on what I saw - a bunch of puff pieces and an article announcing he got an honorary degree from an unaccredited college. This has nothing to do with misapplying Western standards. Oblivy ( talk) 09:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Sometimes we follow the content of the article, which most often appears promotional though can be cleaned easily. Others will leave WP:GNG, and rush to additional criteria that can presume notability. However, this context presents a good narrative of the subject. It's also unfortunate that this generation will neglect someone being a migration officer (formed word) or copy writer, but in the olden days, we see people being that and still appear on sources like the current generation. No matter the promotional (which I don't seem to find) contents in he article, it doesn't depict the fact of being notable, or treated in multiple independent sources. I first was following the discussion especially when it found this article by Vanguard as a well written non advertorial source, and it prompted me reading others. Here is my conclusion, the three Nigerian sources are all reliable per WP:NGRS, and is very satisfiable for WP:GNG. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 19:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: The subject has received coverage in multiple reliable sources, including the ones posted here by RB. The article meets WP:GNG, and sources are fine from here. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 19:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Reason for notability seems unclear in the article. Additionally, the sources are questionable in my mind. For example, the first source has a banner asking people to join their Whatsapp group and the third and fourth sources have links to their Whatsapp group. The The third and fourth sources also link to the same website, tribuneonlineng.com. The method of contacting pmnewsnigeria.com, the second source, is a Google Form, which seems unprofessional for an independent news site. Ternera ( talk) 15:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of surnames in Russia

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Hopelessly indiscriminate/random/subjective collection: here says they found 380 thousand different surnames of which core of 14 thousand surnames are used by 70% of the population... And with a misleading title: it lists only east slavic surnames, while there are plethora non-slavic people in Russia from the times of Russian Empire and Soviet Union: not a single surname ending in -shvili and only one ending in -dze, no one ending in -yan/ -ian i.e., Georgian surnames and Armenian surnames are thoroughly not represented. In is poorly maintained: I removed a couple obviously hoax (OK, mayby typos by nonslavic editors; AGF to them). Even slavic surnames are far from being complete: I immediately failed to find the surnames of my favorite writers: Ilf, Strugatsky, Nabokov Akunin, Zoshchenko, Bulychev, as well as other well known surnames Schmidt/ Shmidt, Goldfarb, no Zeitlin/Tseitlin/Tseytlin, good thing there is Abramovich :-) ; there are Tkachenko and Tkachyov, but no Tkachuk. For some reason there are both Pelevin and Pelyovin listed, but there are hundreds of other e/yo spelling variants missing ..... And so on, and so for. - Altenmann >talk 05:55, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Alameda Council

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WP:NORG and WP:ORGIND fail. If a suitable target can be found, it could be re-directed as suggested for WP:BRANCH, although this article certainly does not merit standalone Graywalls ( talk) 05:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete - Agree with OP.
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Men's Folio

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May not meet WP:NMAGAZINE and WP:GNG. Unable to find significant coverage of the publication. Article is supported by sole subject's About us page at the time of nomination. Article was dratified and then subsequently moved back to mainspace by the article creator. – robertsky ( talk) 05:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ilya Syrovatko

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Does not meet verifiability guidelines per WP:SPORTSPERSON. 333fortheain ( talk) 04:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep. The article needs to add more information and sources. Passes WP:SIGCOV, it’s easy to find reliable secondary sources in Russian that talk about his career and personal life [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] Tau Corvi ( talk) 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete article lacks in sources and in any information. The sources i found, including the ones presented by @Tau Corvi (Thank you for providing those) are, in my opinion, not enough to prove notability as per WP:SPORTCRIT - those are just narration of transfers, some tabloid coverage and game results. Vorann Gencov ( talk) 15:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Franco Pillarella

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. He gets a mere 3 google news hits and article is unreferenced. His involvement with Maher Arar can be covered in that article. The 2 CBC news articles quoted at end are dead. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 04:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Divedapper

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Draftification was undone so I'm bringing it to AfD. Both the sources used in the article and the sources found online as part of WP:BEFORE are uniquely interviews with the founder, with no sign of independent notability. In particular, WP:ORGCRITE is not met because of the lack of secondary sources. I suggest a Merge or Redirect to Kaveh Akbar as WP:ATD. Broc ( talk) 05:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Poetry and United States of America. Broc ( talk) 05:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    It is not correct that "sources found online as part of WP:BEFORE are uniquely interviews with the founder." Only three out of the eight sources are, and those are interviews with NPR, The Indianapolis Star, and a student newspaper of Butler University, each focused on a festival organized by Divedapper.
    It is also incorrect that " WP:ORGCRITE is not met because of the lack of secondary sources." In fact, all of the sources used are independent and third-party sources. None run afoul of WP:NIS. For them to be "primary sources," that would indicate that Divedapper owns or has financial or legal interests or ties to these sources. Nothing I find in my research suggests so.
    Can the page Divedapper be improved upon? Absolutely. As can any other page. What has no basis in facts is the notion that it fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
    If it does fail to meet any criteria, one would expect a proper notification to that effect. Instead, Broc commented out the magazine's logo and did not state that he did so in the Edit Summary, which I found suspect and led me to conclude some bad faith at work. I took a look at their Talk page and found that they had used such "unorthodox" --- their own words --- methods before and a User had complained about it. In that case, Broc moved an article to AfD; but when there was no consensus, Broc voted "Keep," and then draftified the article. A User described the move as "misleading." In response, Broc wrote: "I understand I might have bent the rules of the process a bit." If all editors bent Wikipedia rules at will, then the purpose of the site is defeated.
    "Misleading" and "bending the rules of the process a bit" are descriptions I'd use for Broc as it concerns Divedapper. I'd very much prefer for things to be done in the right manner. I'd say "Keep." LityNerdyNerd ( talk) 16:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Kirill Ilinski

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Fails WP:BIO. Despite looking like a lot of sources, 16 of the 32 sources are simply scientific articles by the subject. Google news comes up with 1 hit. And the company he founded Fusion Asset Management is up for deletion. LibStar ( talk) 04:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Herald Froy

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Invalid DAB: (1) two items only (2) none of potential targets defines it - Altenmann >talk 04:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Julie Marie

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Another bad, short compound given name list created by banned editor Neelix. The two articles, contrary to what it lists, are actually titled Julie Vinter Hansen and Julie Berman. Clarityfiend ( talk) 02:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Courtesy ping User:Geschichte and User:Walsh90210 if they'd like to reconsider their vote. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 19:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Why not? The only two entries are both hyphenated. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 01:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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CEFR companion volume

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The article does not meet WP:GNG and is poorly written. Notaoffensivename ( talk) 02:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Bratislava New Generation-Day FM Festival

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Not a notable music festival. Appears to have been a one-night, one-off event. Walsh90210 ( talk) 00:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Dialogue in writing

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This article is basically a textbook entry providing tips on writing dialogue for fiction. I believe it violates Wikipedia's "Not a Textbook" guideline. [13]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bull Goose Loony ( talkcontribs) 18:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

William J. Callahan

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Not all senior government officials are notable enough to justify a WP article. Mentions of Callahan in WP:RS are WP:TRIVIAL related to his WP:ROUTINE job duties and not WP:SIGCOV focused on Callahan that would establish his notability. Longhornsg ( talk) 01:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

MagicTracer

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This piece of paid software does not meet the WP:GNG as it lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not meet WP:NSOFT either, although that is just an essay. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Skwatta Kamp

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Doesn't meet WP:NMUSIC with no notable discography or chart activity, while their "numerous awards" mentioned in article include only two regional ones. Article has been a poorly-sourced stub since its 2015 creation, and searches turn up the usual niche sites (YouTube, Bandcamp, Genius, et al.) or stories about member deaths. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 00:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ainer Cleve

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC #5 (Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources.")

I created the article in 2020 when the old WP:NGRIDIRON presumed notability for NFL players -- we have database sources showing that Cleve appeared in 19 NFL games as a back and end from 1921-1924. When the presumption was reversed, User:Hey man im josh correctly tagged the article due to the need for additional sources. I thought that someone who appeared in 19 NFL games would have WP:SIGCOV, but my follow-up searches in 2022 didn't find any. I searched again today but didn't find anything rising to the level of SIGCOV. (FWIW: I did find some passing references where his given name was listed as "Ainar" [14] and others as "Einar" [15] [16].)

Despite my efforts, the article still does not comply with our guidelines, so it's time for me to throw in the towel -- unless someone can dig up SIGCOV that I've been unable to find. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Newspapers.com is unavailable and will continue to be unavailable for the vast majority of users (including me) for an unknown amount of time. Could we at the very least draftify this? I can't even search for sources. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 00:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
No objection to that. Cbl62 ( talk) 14:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Taipei Economic and Cultural Center in Chennai

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Fails WP:ORG. 4 of the 5 sources are primary. Previous AfD was consensus for merge but the article has been recreated. LibStar ( talk) 00:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Vennli

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Fails the notability guideline for companies. Coverage in purely local sources or from alumni publications does not contribute to notability. – Tera tix 17:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Archie Vaughan

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So what exactly makes this guy notable? Being the son of Michael Vaughan, is all I can tell. He hasn't played cricket at a senior level and hasn't done anything of note in cricket to warrant inclusion. No amount of WP:ROUTINE refbombs can hide that he is a WP:GNG fail. AA ( talk) 17:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep. I don’t understand whether he has already played for Somerset and the England U19 to pass WP:NCRIC, but signing a contract with the club and being called up to the U19 team is being covered in the media, which indicates the passage WP:SIGCOV. I will list several secondary sources, you can easily find more [1] [2] [3] Tau Corvi ( talk) 14:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
But why is that notable? Plenty of people get signed by major sports teams and never go onto do anything. Is the bar really set this low? Again, if his father wasn't a famous cricketer, he would not get any coverage. AA ( talk) 22:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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6 Engineer Squadron

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The subject of the article does not seem to be notable. There is a lack of independent references provided. PercyPigUK ( talk) 11:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep As one would expect for such an old unit, there's numerous references to the unit in the media throughout the wars. Even a 1946 book, and discussion in numerous other books about operations in both World Wars as they participated in battles like Vimy Ridge and on Juno Beach on D-Day. The German execution of three captured prisoners (2 from this unit) at the hands of Wilhelm Mohnke in 1944 gets media attention, such as ProQuest  239462705 and also discussed in a book. Nfitz ( talk) 16:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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DWAD-TV

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This was marked as {{ db-hoax}} by Myrabert01. Not sure whether it is a hoax or not, but it is certainly unsourced and was until recently about a different station of the same name. Expert attention needed to decide what should be done here. See also the talk page. — Kusma ( talk) 15:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Death of Jay Slater

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This seems like a prime example of NOTNEWS to me; there is no indication that this is an event that rises to encyclopedic notability, and the history is replete with the removal of excessive tabloid-style detail and suggestion. Pinging the three editors that weighed in at WP:BLPN: notwally, Bon courage, DeCausa. Drmies ( talk) 16:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of shooting ranges in Akershus

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WP:NOTDIRECTORY. As noted in discussion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shooting ranges in Norway, this fails WP:LISTCRITERIA. It's a nice list and interesting geodata... but not encyclopaedic content. Hemmers ( talk) 16:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Air Malta destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, and plain old common sense.

Let's start with common sense: why on earth do we have an article listing destinations that Air Malta DOES NOT FLY TO! Every destination here is listed as "terminated" or "Airport Closed"!

WP:NOT is failed under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". This is a straight forward listing of services that Air Malta possibly provided at some point but now no longer does.

WP:NCORP is failed because there is no evidence at all that the services offered by Air Malta are a notable topic based on reliable, independent, third-party sources that would meet WP:ORGIND. I could go through every single one of the sources cited but there is little point in repeating the same statement over and over - these are all either company announcements, or reports in local/industry press based entirely on company press-releases and statements. For example the Malta Today story is based entirely on a statement by a company spokesman.

This is also original research. None of these sources show that these flights were offered (or terminated) in January 2023. This can be said because none of the sources are dated to January 2023 - some are later, some are anything up to a decade or more earlier.

This is essentially an article entirely about run-of-the-mill announcements about services from a company that can change from one week to the next. It is the equivalent of an article trying to list the locations of all Burger Kings in August 1987 or all Pizza Huts in December 1998. Simply the worst kind of indiscriminate information. FOARP ( talk) 16:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete indiscriminate list of services possibly provided at some point in time, per nom.

News9 Plus

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AfDed per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/News9Live Twinkle1990 ( talk) 15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Civic technology companies

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Largely redundant of civic technology and dubious sources throughout. The list is largely non-notable organizations. Anything useful here could be merged into civic technology. ZimZalaBim talk 15:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Khais Millen

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Immediately refunded after soft deletion in 2023 but no change to address concerns in first AfD. Film writer/director who does not pass WP:GNG, WP:NCREATIVE, WP:NBIO. Most sources are [WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS]] if they mention him at all; there's an interview that's a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE and a single example of WP:SIGCOV that exhibits all the hallmarks of unreliable content of WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Not enough to pass. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 15:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep: fairly meets WP:DIRECTOR AND WP:CREATIVE with at least 3 2 notable films directed and 3 2 written (not mentioning the fact he produced. 2); the said films are notable creations that received independent and in-depth coverage mentioning him. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    What part of WP:DIRECTOR are you referring to with "three notable films"? (Only two films he has been involved in even have en-wiki pages and only one of those he directed.) The only criterion I could plausibly see cited is "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work," but there's no evidence that any of his works are "significant or well-known." Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I consider his debut film as director notable enough. See coverage about it online. It has no page yet on WP, true. Added 2 links to the article. Writer: my bad, I had counted Lipstick, which is a short. Even if it's only two or even if it it was only one, he would pass both SNGs because these works can be considered significant, as coverage shows. I'll leave it at that as he is a really clear pass imv.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) (number of significant films; clarification: 3 or 4 films including 2 directed (Thala; and I count Aakashvani), 2 written (Adithattu and Thala, to which one can add again Aakashvani)); the 1st has received a significant award and is clearly significant imv).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment on the opening assertion in the nomination: sorry but no change to address concerns in first AfD is an inaccurate statement.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Fine, no substantive change. The addition of WP:TRIVIALMENTION citations does not address the concerns in the AfD. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    I beg to differ. If those mentions (trivial or not) allow to verify he had an essential role in notable productions they do address the concerns, especially as one mentioned the award for Best Second film that was not mentioned before, unless I am mistaken. I remember checking them (or even adding some) myself back then. I should leave it at that that, as I had said, sorry. Thanks, anyway. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Girish Tanti

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WP:NOTRESUME. Fails WP:GNG WP:BASIC. Initially, I tried to draftify the page, but there is already a rejected draft in existence. Charlie ( talk) 15:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Michael Lejsek

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Redirect to Czech Republic at the 2022 Winter Olympics#Luge as I could not find enough in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG. I've checked corresponding Wikipedia article in other languages, especially the Czech one that might help copy over English article, but none of them provide significant coverage on him. One-time Olympics participant, Lejsek was not even one of the three luge medalists in pre-mentioned tournament either. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 15:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Iain McKee

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG - a WP:BEFORE search turned up no focused coverage, just passing mentions in coverage about projects he was associated with in some way. Also does not appear to meet WP:NACTOR as his roles are mostly non-significant. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) Talk to Me! 14:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of permanent Ambisonic playback systems

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Wikipedia is not a directory this article contains very few internal links to notable articles, all that is included is external links, which has become a means of promotion. There is nothing encyclopedic about this article that is currently worth saving VViking Talk Edits 14:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of anthropogenic disasters by death toll

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This whole article is one long mess, which if you look at the talk page has been very contentious for years. It's heavily biased in many ways and doesn't appear to have any clear rules regarding what is actually included. It describes itself as a list of events with a "measurable drop in human population" yet also contains many events with as few as 40 deaths, and repeats itself at multiple points, such as listing "Various Fascist/Marxist leaders" as distinct events along with each major leader as a unique event. All in all this article is unnecessary, as it contains nothing that is not duplicated on other better articles such as List of wars by death toll. I fully believe WP:TNT applies here. CoconutOctopus talk 13:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Indian prime ministerial firsts

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WP:NOTTRIVIA, does not meet WP:LISTN. Along the same lines as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States vice presidential firsts. signed, Rosguill talk 13:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Anthony Akinwunmi Richards

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There are no enough reliable sources to establish WP:PRODUCER. Ibjaja055 ( talk) 12:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Enterprise Group (Ghana)

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This company does not meet any notability requirement. In the article's current form, all sources are primary and there is nothing out there to indicate notability per before search Ednabrenze ( talk) 08:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Ľubomír Bajtoš

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Another long-unsourced stub regarding a Slovak men's footballer who played a total of 47 minutes before suddenly disappearing in 1999. SME might be the best reliable secondary source that mentions his name, but it's only in an image caption which does not count towards significant coverage. Article fails WP:GNG overall. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 11:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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International Anarchist Congresses

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In a previous iteration of this article, it consisted of a list of various different congresses held by different organisations with little tying them together but the broad "anarchist" label. That list was recently dynamited by Czar, leaving nothing but a contextless list of congresses of the International Workingmen's Association, which I don't think have ever been described as "anarchist congresses" in any sources (the IWMA consisted of various different socialist tendencies, not just anarchists). As this article would, at best, be a random list of various, disconnected congresses for different disconnected organisations; and as it is utterly worthless in its current state, I'm recommending the article be deleted. Grnrchst ( talk) 11:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • There might be a case for creating a list of anarchist congresses but we'd have to do some digging for sourcing. Or that might be a better job for a category. czar 13:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Since there's useful stuff in the page history and the topic is broadly notable we should be avoiding deletion if possible. A list is better than a category in this case, I think, since the entries will need more context to be useful (as noted by nom, the current state of the article isn't useful because it lacks that context). We also have a lot of incoming links here. Even in this extremely reduced state, it does at least have some "see also" that are relevant to the topic at hand. I agree with czar that it's not great to have unsourced sections hanging around forever, but I think deleting the whole thing is an unnecessary amount of TNT. -- asilvering ( talk) 17:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Speaking of incoming links, @ czar, a bunch of the links aim at one of the sections you TNT'd. I think we might be able to source at least a skeleton of this to Skirda - but is there an easier way to search in the "what links here" results that I'm missing? I'd like to find the ones that redirect to a particular section without having to scroll through hundreds of results. -- asilvering ( talk) 17:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    Special:WhatLinksHere/International_Anarchist_Congresses showed the redirects and the sections they targeted. I cleaned up a bunch that should have been pointing to Anti-authoritarian International article sections. czar 18:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Firmex

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Fails WP:NCORP. Tristancr ( talk) 12:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Marc Douglas Berardo

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None of the sources here are ones I know to be reliable, and most appear to be small/local coverage. Nothing else here suggests an NBAND pass. One of his albums is already up for a separate AfD as well. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 12:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

No Depression is reliable source. It is a highly respected music magazine. MarySue Twohy is program director at Sirius XM. Folk Dj is a international organization with a radio station It's part of Folk Alliance International. I believe he meets the criteria for having a single on national music chart if you consider Folk Alliance International https://www.folkradio.org/ Currently his new record is currently #24 on this chart. Two of his vidoes for singles were reviewed by Americana Highways, another respectable music publication although they are not listed in this article. The festivals that he won or was finalist are national competitions Lyle Lovett and Nanci Griffith were finalists at Kerrville. Most of the other references such as who he performed with were added to support a statement as being true. I agree it needs to be updated, but I not deleted. Performer Research ( talk) 16:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
I don't think Folk Alliance International would be considered a valid chart as I would assume it falls under SINGLEVENDOR. No Depression should be reliable and Americana Highways is as far as I know (bit surprised to see neither listed at RSMUSIC), but it's still a bit limited. This could be turned around though. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
It would also help if you could link to the Americana Highways articles and any others you bring up that aren't already present. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 18:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hubertus van der Vaart

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Have carried out WP:BEFORE for this unreferenced article about a businessperson, and not found independent, reliable sources to add. I don't think he meets WP:GNG, WP:NBUSINESSPEOPLE or WP:ANYBIO. Tacyarg ( talk) 11:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Sexual Chocolate

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There are no Wikipedia pages by this title to disambiguate. Gjs238 ( talk) 11:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Celebrations4u

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All the sources mentioned in the article are part of regular brand promotions/ interviews/ PRs. No significant coverage from independent sources. Fails GNG Jeraxmoira🐉 ( talk) 10:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Vietnam Airlines destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP.

Specifically this is a catalogue of the services of a company and as such is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". This is essentially an article entirely about run-of-the-mill announcements about services from a company, the equivalent of an article trying to list the locations of all Burger Kings or Pizza Huts. Any information that is not simply run-of-the-mill is already included at the Vietnam Airlines article.

Other headings under WP:NOT that are failed include WP:NOTTRIVIA (since this is a listing of rapidly-changing temporary company services that can change on a scale of days/weeks), WP:IINFO (since this is an indiscriminate effort to provide a complete listing of all services offered by a company regardless of significance, instead of summarising them), WP:PROMO (since this is effectively an advert for the company's services based on sources controlled ultimately by the company), WP:NOR (since this is the compiling of a list of company services to state things not stated in the original sources - for example that services to Russia are terminated now because they were suspended in 2022, or that services to Tegel were previously operated when the source only says that Tegel is now shut, and more broadly that all of these services are operating now when the sources are only true for the date they were published), WP:NOTGUIDE (since this is effectively a travel guide), WP:NOTNEWS (since this appears to be an attempt to create a list of up-to-the-minute services offered by the company), and WP:CRYSTAL (since nearly every announcement used discusses plans to start doing something in the future, and since dates in the future are included - for example announcements for October 2024).

WP:NCORP is also failed. Most of the listings here are unsourced, and realistically cannot be sourced from anywhere but the company website, press-releases, company spokespeople, or other sources controlled by the company, meaning that it automatically fails WP:ORGIND, because this information cannot be obtained from a source independent of the company.

That this is true can be seen from the sources provided in the article. Going through these one-by-one we get:

  1. The Vietnam Airlines website
  2. A Saigon Times article about a government announcement about restructuring of the airline that does not mention any destinations
  3. A profile in industry-press based entirely on information from the airline
  4. The Vietnam Airlines website
  5. An industry-press article based on a company press-release
  6. A local news story based on a company press-release
  7. A link to the Berlin airport website saying that Tegel airport has been shut down - the conclusion that Vietnam airlines ever flew here is not supported and basically OR
  8. An announcement about future plans in industry press, with comments from the CEO of Munich airport who are obviously also not independent of the airline as they are a business-partner of theirs
  9. An announcement in government-controlled press about flights to India, since Vietnam Airlines is state-owned and managed by a board appointed by the government this is not independent
  10. Announcements from the company about future plans relayed via Aeroroutes, which is a blog/industry press, and also not significant coverage since it so short
  11. Another Aeroroutes link regarding future plans
  12. A short Reuters piece about flights to Moscow being suspended in 2022 based on an announcement in Vietnamese state-owned press - not significant coverage of the topic of the destinations since it is so short and is anyway not reliably and independently sourced. Additionally this does not support the statement that flights are terminated now in 2024 so this is OR.
  13. Another brief Aeroroutes link about future plans
  14. A Condé Nast travel-magazine article based on a statement from the Vietnam Airlines CEO. Whilst other sources are also quoted in the article, all of these sources ultimately track back to Vietnam Airlines - the Airline Geeks article (industry press/blog) is sourced to a company press release, the Vietnam+ article is sourced to statements by the CEO, the Twitter source is from Vietnam Airlines Twitter account. There is no independent reporting here.

As a list split from a larger article, this still needs to have stand-alone notability per WP:AVOIDSPLIT, but it clearly does not since it fails the relevant notability guide for company products and services ( WP:NCORP). FOARP ( talk) 10:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Centaur (Dungeons & Dragons)

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AfD'ed in 2007 and 2016 (both closed as keep), I closed the 2020 AfD as "delete", the article was later draftified but then moved back to main space without much change nearly 3 years later. My WP:G4 speedy nomination was declined with the note "this may yet need to face a 3rd AfD". WP:Notability per WP:GNG is still in question. This article should either be fully and officially be re-accepted in WP's D&D coverage including being listed in Template:D&D topics, or be re-deleted. – sgeureka tc 10:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Comment - That article is simply a summary of the information about Centaurs taken directly from Mythic Odysseys of Theros, and offers no actual commentary or analysis. It is simply a summary of the official information presented in the book. The same goes for this article, which is the only other one in the search that provides more than minor coverage - its simply summarizing the exact content from the official book, without a single bit of commentary or analysis. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep this is yet another iteration of the prejudice against game content in mythical creatures articles. The topic of this is article 'centaur', not 'centaurs in Dungeons & Dragons' but is maintained in a separate article due to SIZE and other considerations. Merging it all (not "delete by calling it a merge and eventually deleting all of the content") to Centaur would be most appropriate, but failing that, keeping it as a separate article focusing on the game aspect of the same topic is appropriate. Jclemens ( talk) 16:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Centaurs get their own heading in Keith Ammann's The Monsters Know What They're Doing, which in combination with the content already in the article is good enough for me. Someone might want to add content from TMKWTD, though. BD2412 T 17:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Apna Jobs

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No notability, fails NCORP, promo. Sources are not reliable. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 10:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete obviously corporate promotion, possibly using paid news? Dazzling4 ( talk) 17:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

EPACK Prefab

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Promotional company page, fails WP:NCORP. Trivial sources only. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 09:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Julian Adyeri Omalla

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not notable per WP ANYBIO guidelines. Possible original research and WP Resume. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 09:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Aave Protocol

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Not notable per sources' evaluation. Some sources are crypto-related websites. Bloomberg and TechCrunch coverage does not fulfill WP requirements. Old-AgedKid ( talk) 09:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Hayate Usui

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about a martial artist, and added two references, though one is a passing mention. I do not think Usui meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMMA. Tacyarg ( talk) 08:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Geoffrey Girard

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Appears to fail WP:GNG & WP:NAUTHOR. Most sources were either WP:INTERVIEWS or simply do not establish notability. Did not find any independent reliable sources. The article itself is very promotional, and was majorly written by individuals using SPAs with a COI that are closely tied to the subject. If article is kept, it will need a major rewrite. ⁂CountHacker ( talk) 08:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

2024 Los Angeles County shootings

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This shooting does not appear to have drawn any sustained coverage outside of local routine coverage. Fails WP:NEVENT, particularly WP:LASTING. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 07:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Please consider the fact that because this happened in the United States events like these are quickly removed from the news cycle. Raskuly ( talk) 07:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete. For exactly that reason events like these are not automatically notable. Athel cb ( talk) 08:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Please consider doing this to other articles on the List of mass shootings in the United States article then since this article's deletion seems inevitable at this point right after you had my other article deleted. Raskuly ( talk) 10:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Note categories at the bottom of the article, and the navbox that has five years of shootings around the United States. Why delete this one, and keep all the rest? I'm surprised there is not a Wikipedia project for this subject. — Maile ( talk) 13:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete: I agree, it never got national coverage, and so fails WP:NEVENT Carson004 ( talk) 18:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

SMK TTDI Jaya

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Article does not satisfy Wikipedia's general notability guidelines (see WP:GNG.) The school already has an article in Malay Wikipedia so an English one would be unnecessary. N niyaz ( talk) 07:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Merge: We should not delete the article on SMK TTDI Jaya. Yes, there is a parallel in another Wikipedia edition. Yet, each language edition has distinct readers and needs. The English version fails WP:GNG due to a lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. In that case, it may be suitable to merge the English content into a broader article about schools in the region. Or, we can draftify it until we find more sources. This approach respects the need for information on other language Wikipedias. It also maintains the quality and notability standards of English Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AstridMitch ( talkcontribs) 07:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment ms:Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan TTDI Jaya is the other article; unfortunately it is completely unsourced. Walsh90210 ( talk) 15:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Joseph James Nantomah

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Life coach, serial entrepreneur, but I don't see any significant independent coverage. The only articles I see are praising the guy's amazing skills in his voice. BrigadierG ( talk) 09:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

These three sources are not included in the article. Best, Reading Beans 10:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete We have independent coverage requirements to pass notability, and I don't see it on these sources. The links in the article, as well as the additional links suggested by @ Reading Beans do read as if they were pulled by a self-penned biography package. If you look at the PM News article from a certain angle it looks like independent reporting, possibly just paraphrasing/rewriting but more of an editorial effort. Oblivy ( talk) 10:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Oblivy, I usually and always disapprove of badgering of !votes but what is the proof of the non-independency of these sources? The tone? I just want to naively believe that it’s the tone. But is it? Best, Reading Beans 14:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
It's the way the articles just say things about him, often things that only he would know or which would be difficult to track down. And doing so without any of the the curiosity or skepticism or contextualization one might expect from an independent journalistic exercise. Oblivy ( talk) 00:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
This may sound WP:OR but there are a lot, I mean, a lot interviews out there. Do you prefer I cite interviews (which I think is where these informations were actually gotten)? As I said earlier, we always make a mistake of judging sources from Africa with Western standards. Best, Reading Beans 09:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
For the information, I am from Nigeria. Best, Reading Beans 09:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
If you have other sources that qualify for WP:GNG feel free to add them or cite them here. I had a look at each of the existing sources, plus the ones you selected above, and made my vote based on what I saw - a bunch of puff pieces and an article announcing he got an honorary degree from an unaccredited college. This has nothing to do with misapplying Western standards. Oblivy ( talk) 09:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Sometimes we follow the content of the article, which most often appears promotional though can be cleaned easily. Others will leave WP:GNG, and rush to additional criteria that can presume notability. However, this context presents a good narrative of the subject. It's also unfortunate that this generation will neglect someone being a migration officer (formed word) or copy writer, but in the olden days, we see people being that and still appear on sources like the current generation. No matter the promotional (which I don't seem to find) contents in he article, it doesn't depict the fact of being notable, or treated in multiple independent sources. I first was following the discussion especially when it found this article by Vanguard as a well written non advertorial source, and it prompted me reading others. Here is my conclusion, the three Nigerian sources are all reliable per WP:NGRS, and is very satisfiable for WP:GNG. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 19:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: The subject has received coverage in multiple reliable sources, including the ones posted here by RB. The article meets WP:GNG, and sources are fine from here. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 19:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Reason for notability seems unclear in the article. Additionally, the sources are questionable in my mind. For example, the first source has a banner asking people to join their Whatsapp group and the third and fourth sources have links to their Whatsapp group. The The third and fourth sources also link to the same website, tribuneonlineng.com. The method of contacting pmnewsnigeria.com, the second source, is a Google Form, which seems unprofessional for an independent news site. Ternera ( talk) 15:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of surnames in Russia

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Hopelessly indiscriminate/random/subjective collection: here says they found 380 thousand different surnames of which core of 14 thousand surnames are used by 70% of the population... And with a misleading title: it lists only east slavic surnames, while there are plethora non-slavic people in Russia from the times of Russian Empire and Soviet Union: not a single surname ending in -shvili and only one ending in -dze, no one ending in -yan/ -ian i.e., Georgian surnames and Armenian surnames are thoroughly not represented. In is poorly maintained: I removed a couple obviously hoax (OK, mayby typos by nonslavic editors; AGF to them). Even slavic surnames are far from being complete: I immediately failed to find the surnames of my favorite writers: Ilf, Strugatsky, Nabokov Akunin, Zoshchenko, Bulychev, as well as other well known surnames Schmidt/ Shmidt, Goldfarb, no Zeitlin/Tseitlin/Tseytlin, good thing there is Abramovich :-) ; there are Tkachenko and Tkachyov, but no Tkachuk. For some reason there are both Pelevin and Pelyovin listed, but there are hundreds of other e/yo spelling variants missing ..... And so on, and so for. - Altenmann >talk 05:55, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Alameda Council

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WP:NORG and WP:ORGIND fail. If a suitable target can be found, it could be re-directed as suggested for WP:BRANCH, although this article certainly does not merit standalone Graywalls ( talk) 05:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete - Agree with OP.
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Men's Folio

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May not meet WP:NMAGAZINE and WP:GNG. Unable to find significant coverage of the publication. Article is supported by sole subject's About us page at the time of nomination. Article was dratified and then subsequently moved back to mainspace by the article creator. – robertsky ( talk) 05:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ilya Syrovatko

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Does not meet verifiability guidelines per WP:SPORTSPERSON. 333fortheain ( talk) 04:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep. The article needs to add more information and sources. Passes WP:SIGCOV, it’s easy to find reliable secondary sources in Russian that talk about his career and personal life [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] Tau Corvi ( talk) 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete article lacks in sources and in any information. The sources i found, including the ones presented by @Tau Corvi (Thank you for providing those) are, in my opinion, not enough to prove notability as per WP:SPORTCRIT - those are just narration of transfers, some tabloid coverage and game results. Vorann Gencov ( talk) 15:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Franco Pillarella

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. He gets a mere 3 google news hits and article is unreferenced. His involvement with Maher Arar can be covered in that article. The 2 CBC news articles quoted at end are dead. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 04:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Divedapper

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Draftification was undone so I'm bringing it to AfD. Both the sources used in the article and the sources found online as part of WP:BEFORE are uniquely interviews with the founder, with no sign of independent notability. In particular, WP:ORGCRITE is not met because of the lack of secondary sources. I suggest a Merge or Redirect to Kaveh Akbar as WP:ATD. Broc ( talk) 05:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Poetry and United States of America. Broc ( talk) 05:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
    It is not correct that "sources found online as part of WP:BEFORE are uniquely interviews with the founder." Only three out of the eight sources are, and those are interviews with NPR, The Indianapolis Star, and a student newspaper of Butler University, each focused on a festival organized by Divedapper.
    It is also incorrect that " WP:ORGCRITE is not met because of the lack of secondary sources." In fact, all of the sources used are independent and third-party sources. None run afoul of WP:NIS. For them to be "primary sources," that would indicate that Divedapper owns or has financial or legal interests or ties to these sources. Nothing I find in my research suggests so.
    Can the page Divedapper be improved upon? Absolutely. As can any other page. What has no basis in facts is the notion that it fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
    If it does fail to meet any criteria, one would expect a proper notification to that effect. Instead, Broc commented out the magazine's logo and did not state that he did so in the Edit Summary, which I found suspect and led me to conclude some bad faith at work. I took a look at their Talk page and found that they had used such "unorthodox" --- their own words --- methods before and a User had complained about it. In that case, Broc moved an article to AfD; but when there was no consensus, Broc voted "Keep," and then draftified the article. A User described the move as "misleading." In response, Broc wrote: "I understand I might have bent the rules of the process a bit." If all editors bent Wikipedia rules at will, then the purpose of the site is defeated.
    "Misleading" and "bending the rules of the process a bit" are descriptions I'd use for Broc as it concerns Divedapper. I'd very much prefer for things to be done in the right manner. I'd say "Keep." LityNerdyNerd ( talk) 16:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Kirill Ilinski

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Fails WP:BIO. Despite looking like a lot of sources, 16 of the 32 sources are simply scientific articles by the subject. Google news comes up with 1 hit. And the company he founded Fusion Asset Management is up for deletion. LibStar ( talk) 04:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Herald Froy

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Invalid DAB: (1) two items only (2) none of potential targets defines it - Altenmann >talk 04:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Julie Marie

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Another bad, short compound given name list created by banned editor Neelix. The two articles, contrary to what it lists, are actually titled Julie Vinter Hansen and Julie Berman. Clarityfiend ( talk) 02:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Courtesy ping User:Geschichte and User:Walsh90210 if they'd like to reconsider their vote. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 19:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Why not? The only two entries are both hyphenated. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 01:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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CEFR companion volume

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The article does not meet WP:GNG and is poorly written. Notaoffensivename ( talk) 02:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Bratislava New Generation-Day FM Festival

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Not a notable music festival. Appears to have been a one-night, one-off event. Walsh90210 ( talk) 00:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Dialogue in writing

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This article is basically a textbook entry providing tips on writing dialogue for fiction. I believe it violates Wikipedia's "Not a Textbook" guideline. [13]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bull Goose Loony ( talkcontribs) 18:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

William J. Callahan

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Not all senior government officials are notable enough to justify a WP article. Mentions of Callahan in WP:RS are WP:TRIVIAL related to his WP:ROUTINE job duties and not WP:SIGCOV focused on Callahan that would establish his notability. Longhornsg ( talk) 01:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

MagicTracer

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This piece of paid software does not meet the WP:GNG as it lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not meet WP:NSOFT either, although that is just an essay. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Skwatta Kamp

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Doesn't meet WP:NMUSIC with no notable discography or chart activity, while their "numerous awards" mentioned in article include only two regional ones. Article has been a poorly-sourced stub since its 2015 creation, and searches turn up the usual niche sites (YouTube, Bandcamp, Genius, et al.) or stories about member deaths. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 00:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ainer Cleve

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC #5 (Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources.")

I created the article in 2020 when the old WP:NGRIDIRON presumed notability for NFL players -- we have database sources showing that Cleve appeared in 19 NFL games as a back and end from 1921-1924. When the presumption was reversed, User:Hey man im josh correctly tagged the article due to the need for additional sources. I thought that someone who appeared in 19 NFL games would have WP:SIGCOV, but my follow-up searches in 2022 didn't find any. I searched again today but didn't find anything rising to the level of SIGCOV. (FWIW: I did find some passing references where his given name was listed as "Ainar" [14] and others as "Einar" [15] [16].)

Despite my efforts, the article still does not comply with our guidelines, so it's time for me to throw in the towel -- unless someone can dig up SIGCOV that I've been unable to find. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Newspapers.com is unavailable and will continue to be unavailable for the vast majority of users (including me) for an unknown amount of time. Could we at the very least draftify this? I can't even search for sources. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 00:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply
No objection to that. Cbl62 ( talk) 14:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Taipei Economic and Cultural Center in Chennai

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Fails WP:ORG. 4 of the 5 sources are primary. Previous AfD was consensus for merge but the article has been recreated. LibStar ( talk) 00:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) reply


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