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In the case of Sambucus australasica‎, the species Sambucus australasica‎ was named by Fritsch, the taxon was named by John Lindley. Please discuss the change you made in the talk page of the article, on my talk page, or here. That way, we may avoid an edit war. Gderrin ( talk) 21:29, 15 September 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Gderrin: Yes, and Sambucus australasica is the accepted species, which was named by Karl Fritsch, as you said. It was first described by John Lindley in a different genus, and that taxon has now become a synonym of Sambucus australasica. As I explained in my edit summary, the species as it stands was described by Karl Fritsch, hence the parentheses accrediting Lindley for the basionym.
Yes - Sambucus australasica is the accepted name. The species Tripetelus australasicus is a nomenclatural synonym of, and the basionym of Sambucus australasica, but the taxon was named by Lindley. Furthermore, Fritsch did not describe S. australasica in Die Natürlichen Pflanzenfamilien, he merely changed then name. [1] (Bottom of the page, "Sect.VII") You are confusing "species" with "taxon". Please add your opinion to the talk page for the article so we can have other editors involved in the discussion. Gderrin ( talk) 00:03, 16 September 2023 (UTC) reply

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The name articles you are proposing to delete are notable because they appear on the top 10 list of one country or another's most popular names. I created definition articles to link back to the list at List of most popular given names. They're referenced, provide information, and have existed for over a decade. What is the point of deleting them? Yes, I am an inclusionist. In any event, I will oppose attempts to delete all of these articles. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 14:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Bookworm857158367:I personally don't think that being in a top 10 list for one year provides enough WP:SIGCOV for notability. This falls into WP:NOTDICT territory. Additionally, many pages that have existed for years get PRODed or nominated for deletion; they had simply flown under the radar. I will copy this to the Maneh talk page for an admin to review. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 19:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I have never seen the point of deleting articles that provide useful information when they are accurate and referenced. I have a major problem with deleting articles en masse. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 19:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Bookworm857158367:What matters is notability. If all coverage is WP:ROUTINE then it is probably not suitable for a Wikipedia article. One can always find information about it on other, more relevant websites. I occasionally hold these attitudes as well, but Wikipedia has these rules in place for a good reason. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 19:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I don’t agree with that rationale. These rules have become increasingly bureaucratic and inflexible over the past few years and seem designed largely to discourage people from editing. In any event, I oppose attempts to delete those articles. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 21:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Bookworm857158367:Ok, well, you're entitled to your opinions, but I don't think discussions about the validity of the rules is really appropriate here, so if it looks like neither of us are going to change our minds, we should leave this discussion for an admin to review. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
On the same topic, this is unnecessarily personal. Please make comments about people's arguments, not about them. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 03:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Daniel: I realize that now. I am sorry, sincerely. I can get kind of frustrated when I believe efforts to improve the encyclopedia are being impeded, but I should have formulated a much better response. I will think things through better in the future. I hope you can accept my apologies. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Also, User:Bookworm857158367, as a response to your final response on the Pranvera AfD page, I kind of agree with the first sentence, that it can be, and I definitely agree with the second sentence. As for the third sentence, the "useful to someone somewhere" argument I believe kind of goes against WP:NOTEVERYTHING, and as for the last sentence, I guess I haven't been around as long as you have, but policy is generally community consensus and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of trivia. Anyway, this argument will probably keep circling back to notability, so I don't think it would be very productive to continue it much longer seeing as the discussion is now closed. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
No apology needed, but thanks for your comment, These conversations do get a little involved but I don’t think any of it is personal. I think we just come at a subject with different viewpoints. You do good work. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 00:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC) reply
User:Bookworm857158367, Thank you, yes, I don't mean for anything I say to be personal. I will probably keep responding to most of your votes though my replies may be intended more for passersby. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 06:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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User:LlywelynII, I am not sure exactly what you mean in "(a)", as the hatnote at Qianliyan was already how I believed it should be, and as for "(b)", I did forget to check the talk page, which I am at fault for. I don't recall blanking any content, but I'm not sure if you're referring to me there. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply
If you checked for (a) and just left it, then, yeah, nothing for you to do there. The 'blanking' in the talk page actually refers to the edit just before yours that turned the page into a 'one other' issue. I get it that your edits were entirely in good faith based on what you saw at the time. I do disagree that the other topics are non-notable or that readers are well served by blanking them and removing the dab page. Generally, you want to keep things tidy, but Wikipedia's general WP:BIAS means that even extremely notable Asian/African/&c topics fall by the wayside for some time. Even myself, I'm not invested enough to go source and create those topics. I just know they're notable enough to bear mentioning and future creation. —  LlywelynII 04:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply
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Thanks for your note at User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq. That editor decided to delete my advice, at [1]. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 08:59, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hmm. Civil war among the disambiguation titans?
Jokes aside, I do hope they heed your advice. Their edits are overall valuable but they do seem to act with unnecessary haste sometimes. Courtesy ping Shhhnotsoloud. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:02, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ AllTheUsernamesAreInUse how u doing? Jutos222 ( talk) 19:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Jutos222: Fine, thank you for asking. I noticed you had left a message on your userpage saying that you are leaving Wikipedia, then removed it. Is it true? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 01:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Am not leaving....very much active....making deep research on articles to create Jutos222 ( talk) 09:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Jutos222: It's good that you've decided to stay and try to improve the encyclopedia. I have two things to tell you:
1. I have edited your sandbox to fix the grammar and make the wording more encyclopedic. When you feel you're ready to submit it for review, let me know and I will tell you how to do so. You can read it and get a feel of how you should phrase things in the future.
2. Concerning the incident surrounding Fisayomi Abebi, there are no worries. It's okay that you, as an inexperienced editor, don't know all of the policies and guidelines; your mistake was not heeding the advice of editors that are experienced. Listen to them in the future. I also saw that you blanked your user page and talk page. I won't ask you why, but in case you are worried, I can assure you that no one will hold a grudge against you for your mistakes. Anyway, happy editing. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 23:47, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the editing.... Can you run a test through the sources(References). Have notice that if a subject is notable but lacks good sources. It may not be accepted. Jutos222 ( talk) 23:59, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Jutos222: Well, some of them seem to be primary and I am not sure of the reliability of several others, but on the surface there does seem to be WP:SIGCOV there. I'm no expert, though. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 00:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC) reply
I noticed this person is on the list of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/Nigeria and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Film producers. Jutos222 ( talk) 01:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Ah, well that’s usually a good sign, then. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:41, 25 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Explain how to submit an article using Afc method Jutos222 ( talk) 18:22, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply
To go through the AfC process, you would start an article with "Draft:" in the title, preceding the actual title. Once you feel that it is ready to be reviewed, you would click the button that says "submit for review". If the button is not there, then you would put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. You can also do this through a guided process called WP:Article Wizard. There is more information about it at WP:AFC. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Ok Thanks Jutos222 ( talk) 22:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lol, I assume you're referring to the similarity of our usernames, in which case it's no big deal. You could add a note to your potential userpage or something like that if you wanted to. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 20:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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...this, [2] which of the many links actually lead to a discussion page about the proposed deletion. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Baseball Bugs: You may start a discussion on the talk page of the article being proposed for deletion. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 02:36, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
You're the one that wants it deleted, after 5 years with no complaints. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Baseball Bugs: As it stands, the DAB is not valid per WP:ONEOTHER. No complaints - what about the user who initially tagged it with with {{ One other}}? PRODs, like speedy deletions, do not come with a discussion page, and so relevant information/discussion can go at the talk page of the article in question. If you can find additional topics with their own articles or that are discussed substantially within another article that may be referred to as "National League Park", great. If not, let it be deleted. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:26, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
This argument betrays ignorance of the origin of terms such as "League Park". ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Baseball Bugs: Could you clarify on why you're concerned with the origin of "League Park"? Also would you prefer that I keep pinging you? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The term "League Park" was used where there was only one professional team in a given city. The Phillies called their park "National League Park" because the American League also had a team in Philly. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I see. It's a valid concern, though disambiguations really only exist for navigational purposes, and I couldn't find any additional topics within Wikipedia that seemed likely to be referred to as National League Park that would have brought the DAB to meet WP:ONEOTHER. There may be varying shades of gray, but for the most part it's a kind of black-and-white subject. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 01:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I suppose the "see also" at the top of National League Park will have to do. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi AllTheUsernamesAreInUse, I noticed your note about joining the Wikipedia Library. Actually, access is automatic if an editor meets the criteria, account 6 months old and has 500 edits, which you do. If you click on the link above, then click on "The Wikipedia Library" link, it will take you the log in page and just click log in. The three I use the most are ProQuest, which has NYT archives, other newspapers and good for more contemporary topics, like in the past 20 years, Newspapers.com for more historical topics though it does have current LA Times, most of it is newspapers prior to 1985-ish and JSTOR which has various academic journals and find it good for historical topics and book reviews for academics. See WP:NEWSPAPERS.COM for how to make clippings and citations. For JSTOR, you can use the JSTOR link (ex. https://www.jstor.org/stable/25677052) which you can find in the JSTOR cite tool or on the first page when you download a document. ProQuest, as far as I know, you have to do manually but you can link to an article using Template:ProQuest. The ProQuest document id is in the "Details" page toward the bottom when you view a source which also has all the other info you need for a citation. I also add the template to the Id field when I cite an article. S0091 ( talk) 14:22, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Awesome, thanks for the tip. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 00:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Thanks for your work here. Just a short, friendly reminder that Category:Botanical taxa by author refers to the botanist who described the taxon, rather than the species. Gderrin ( talk) 03:41, 15 September 2023 (UTC) reply

In the case of Sambucus australasica‎, the species Sambucus australasica‎ was named by Fritsch, the taxon was named by John Lindley. Please discuss the change you made in the talk page of the article, on my talk page, or here. That way, we may avoid an edit war. Gderrin ( talk) 21:29, 15 September 2023 (UTC) reply
@ Gderrin: Yes, and Sambucus australasica is the accepted species, which was named by Karl Fritsch, as you said. It was first described by John Lindley in a different genus, and that taxon has now become a synonym of Sambucus australasica. As I explained in my edit summary, the species as it stands was described by Karl Fritsch, hence the parentheses accrediting Lindley for the basionym.
Yes - Sambucus australasica is the accepted name. The species Tripetelus australasicus is a nomenclatural synonym of, and the basionym of Sambucus australasica, but the taxon was named by Lindley. Furthermore, Fritsch did not describe S. australasica in Die Natürlichen Pflanzenfamilien, he merely changed then name. [1] (Bottom of the page, "Sect.VII") You are confusing "species" with "taxon". Please add your opinion to the talk page for the article so we can have other editors involved in the discussion. Gderrin ( talk) 00:03, 16 September 2023 (UTC) reply

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  1. ^ Fritsch, Karl (1891). Die Natürlichen Pflanzenfamilien nebst ihren Gattungen und wichtigeren Arten. Leipzig. p. 162. Retrieved 15 September 2023.{{ cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher ( link)

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The name articles you are proposing to delete are notable because they appear on the top 10 list of one country or another's most popular names. I created definition articles to link back to the list at List of most popular given names. They're referenced, provide information, and have existed for over a decade. What is the point of deleting them? Yes, I am an inclusionist. In any event, I will oppose attempts to delete all of these articles. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 14:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Bookworm857158367:I personally don't think that being in a top 10 list for one year provides enough WP:SIGCOV for notability. This falls into WP:NOTDICT territory. Additionally, many pages that have existed for years get PRODed or nominated for deletion; they had simply flown under the radar. I will copy this to the Maneh talk page for an admin to review. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 19:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I have never seen the point of deleting articles that provide useful information when they are accurate and referenced. I have a major problem with deleting articles en masse. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 19:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Bookworm857158367:What matters is notability. If all coverage is WP:ROUTINE then it is probably not suitable for a Wikipedia article. One can always find information about it on other, more relevant websites. I occasionally hold these attitudes as well, but Wikipedia has these rules in place for a good reason. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 19:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I don’t agree with that rationale. These rules have become increasingly bureaucratic and inflexible over the past few years and seem designed largely to discourage people from editing. In any event, I oppose attempts to delete those articles. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 21:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Bookworm857158367:Ok, well, you're entitled to your opinions, but I don't think discussions about the validity of the rules is really appropriate here, so if it looks like neither of us are going to change our minds, we should leave this discussion for an admin to review. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
On the same topic, this is unnecessarily personal. Please make comments about people's arguments, not about them. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 03:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Daniel: I realize that now. I am sorry, sincerely. I can get kind of frustrated when I believe efforts to improve the encyclopedia are being impeded, but I should have formulated a much better response. I will think things through better in the future. I hope you can accept my apologies. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Also, User:Bookworm857158367, as a response to your final response on the Pranvera AfD page, I kind of agree with the first sentence, that it can be, and I definitely agree with the second sentence. As for the third sentence, the "useful to someone somewhere" argument I believe kind of goes against WP:NOTEVERYTHING, and as for the last sentence, I guess I haven't been around as long as you have, but policy is generally community consensus and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of trivia. Anyway, this argument will probably keep circling back to notability, so I don't think it would be very productive to continue it much longer seeing as the discussion is now closed. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
No apology needed, but thanks for your comment, These conversations do get a little involved but I don’t think any of it is personal. I think we just come at a subject with different viewpoints. You do good work. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 00:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC) reply
User:Bookworm857158367, Thank you, yes, I don't mean for anything I say to be personal. I will probably keep responding to most of your votes though my replies may be intended more for passersby. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 06:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Qianliyan, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! —  LlywelynII 04:41, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply

In particular in this case, you may have been working in good faith from some monitoring software, but you (a) failed to fix the hatnote on the linked page to cover the information on the page you were proposing to delete and (b) ignored the talk page message that already covered your concern. It probably wouldn't affect any other of the pages I've worked on but it'd be better if you avoided similar mistakes in the future, just generally. Cleaning up is fine. Blanking content or ignoring existing discussion should be avoided. —  LlywelynII 04:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply

User:LlywelynII, I am not sure exactly what you mean in "(a)", as the hatnote at Qianliyan was already how I believed it should be, and as for "(b)", I did forget to check the talk page, which I am at fault for. I don't recall blanking any content, but I'm not sure if you're referring to me there. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply
If you checked for (a) and just left it, then, yeah, nothing for you to do there. The 'blanking' in the talk page actually refers to the edit just before yours that turned the page into a 'one other' issue. I get it that your edits were entirely in good faith based on what you saw at the time. I do disagree that the other topics are non-notable or that readers are well served by blanking them and removing the dab page. Generally, you want to keep things tidy, but Wikipedia's general WP:BIAS means that even extremely notable Asian/African/&c topics fall by the wayside for some time. Even myself, I'm not invested enough to go source and create those topics. I just know they're notable enough to bear mentioning and future creation. —  LlywelynII 04:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply
FYI, AfD has been issued for this dab. NmWTfs85lXusaybq ( talk) 06:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ NmWTfs85lXusaybq: That makes a lot of sense. I somehow did not know this. Thank you for telling me and thanks to the other editors for fixing my mistakes yet again. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC) reply

NmWTfs85lXusaybq

Thanks for your note at User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq. That editor decided to delete my advice, at [1]. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 08:59, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hmm. Civil war among the disambiguation titans?
Jokes aside, I do hope they heed your advice. Their edits are overall valuable but they do seem to act with unnecessary haste sometimes. Courtesy ping Shhhnotsoloud. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:02, 14 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi

@ AllTheUsernamesAreInUse how u doing? Jutos222 ( talk) 19:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Jutos222: Fine, thank you for asking. I noticed you had left a message on your userpage saying that you are leaving Wikipedia, then removed it. Is it true? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 01:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Am not leaving....very much active....making deep research on articles to create Jutos222 ( talk) 09:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Jutos222: It's good that you've decided to stay and try to improve the encyclopedia. I have two things to tell you:
1. I have edited your sandbox to fix the grammar and make the wording more encyclopedic. When you feel you're ready to submit it for review, let me know and I will tell you how to do so. You can read it and get a feel of how you should phrase things in the future.
2. Concerning the incident surrounding Fisayomi Abebi, there are no worries. It's okay that you, as an inexperienced editor, don't know all of the policies and guidelines; your mistake was not heeding the advice of editors that are experienced. Listen to them in the future. I also saw that you blanked your user page and talk page. I won't ask you why, but in case you are worried, I can assure you that no one will hold a grudge against you for your mistakes. Anyway, happy editing. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 23:47, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the editing.... Can you run a test through the sources(References). Have notice that if a subject is notable but lacks good sources. It may not be accepted. Jutos222 ( talk) 23:59, 24 February 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Jutos222: Well, some of them seem to be primary and I am not sure of the reliability of several others, but on the surface there does seem to be WP:SIGCOV there. I'm no expert, though. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 00:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC) reply
I noticed this person is on the list of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/Nigeria and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Film producers. Jutos222 ( talk) 01:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Ah, well that’s usually a good sign, then. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:41, 25 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Explain how to submit an article using Afc method Jutos222 ( talk) 18:22, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply
To go through the AfC process, you would start an article with "Draft:" in the title, preceding the actual title. Once you feel that it is ready to be reviewed, you would click the button that says "submit for review". If the button is not there, then you would put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. You can also do this through a guided process called WP:Article Wizard. There is more information about it at WP:AFC. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply
Ok Thanks Jutos222 ( talk) 22:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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Shit

Shit Alltheusernames ( talk) 11:42, 3 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Lol, I assume you're referring to the similarity of our usernames, in which case it's no big deal. You could add a note to your potential userpage or something like that if you wanted to. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 20:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Regarding...

...this, [2] which of the many links actually lead to a discussion page about the proposed deletion. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Baseball Bugs: You may start a discussion on the talk page of the article being proposed for deletion. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 02:36, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
You're the one that wants it deleted, after 5 years with no complaints. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Baseball Bugs: As it stands, the DAB is not valid per WP:ONEOTHER. No complaints - what about the user who initially tagged it with with {{ One other}}? PRODs, like speedy deletions, do not come with a discussion page, and so relevant information/discussion can go at the talk page of the article in question. If you can find additional topics with their own articles or that are discussed substantially within another article that may be referred to as "National League Park", great. If not, let it be deleted. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:26, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
This argument betrays ignorance of the origin of terms such as "League Park". ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Baseball Bugs: Could you clarify on why you're concerned with the origin of "League Park"? Also would you prefer that I keep pinging you? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 04:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The term "League Park" was used where there was only one professional team in a given city. The Phillies called their park "National League Park" because the American League also had a team in Philly. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I see. It's a valid concern, though disambiguations really only exist for navigational purposes, and I couldn't find any additional topics within Wikipedia that seemed likely to be referred to as National League Park that would have brought the DAB to meet WP:ONEOTHER. There may be varying shades of gray, but for the most part it's a kind of black-and-white subject. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 01:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I suppose the "see also" at the top of National League Park will have to do. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi AllTheUsernamesAreInUse, I noticed your note about joining the Wikipedia Library. Actually, access is automatic if an editor meets the criteria, account 6 months old and has 500 edits, which you do. If you click on the link above, then click on "The Wikipedia Library" link, it will take you the log in page and just click log in. The three I use the most are ProQuest, which has NYT archives, other newspapers and good for more contemporary topics, like in the past 20 years, Newspapers.com for more historical topics though it does have current LA Times, most of it is newspapers prior to 1985-ish and JSTOR which has various academic journals and find it good for historical topics and book reviews for academics. See WP:NEWSPAPERS.COM for how to make clippings and citations. For JSTOR, you can use the JSTOR link (ex. https://www.jstor.org/stable/25677052) which you can find in the JSTOR cite tool or on the first page when you download a document. ProQuest, as far as I know, you have to do manually but you can link to an article using Template:ProQuest. The ProQuest document id is in the "Details" page toward the bottom when you view a source which also has all the other info you need for a citation. I also add the template to the Id field when I cite an article. S0091 ( talk) 14:22, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Awesome, thanks for the tip. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 00:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Thank you! I'm glad to be able to lighten the workload of other editors. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 03:59, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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