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Category:Year of work unknown

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. (Dual merge to Works by year unnecessary; child is already in Songs by year). NLeeuw ( talk) 06:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Drum Corps Associates corps

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Drum Corps Associates corps

Category:Paleontology portal

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 13#Category:Paleontology portal

16th century in the Mughal Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated year and decade categories, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 07:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2004 video games with demos

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete all. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Absolutely not a defining trait. Thousands upon thousands of video games have demos, and none of them are defined by that. I nominated 2004, then noticed the parent and several others. All should go. -- ferret ( talk) 13:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
It would be very sad you you delete :(
Not all games have demos. Thousands? Ok, they are divided by years.
Demo is important - because it freely distributable, and we can download it from some websites. This is imprtant for abandonware, for example Armies of Exigo - you cannot buy this game - we have only torrents or great demo.
And often demos is like a beta version of the game, that looks differently from the release version - this is important for the history and research. I am surprised that you want to delete such category :( Vitaly Zdanevich ( talk) 16:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Because it is not a defining trait of the games. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. -- ferret ( talk) 17:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment -I assume all of the additional subcats of Category:Video games with demos should be deleted as well? (Oinkers42) ( talk) 02:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes -- ferret ( talk) 04:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag all of the subcategories; if there is no further participation in a week we should be all set for deleting them.
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  • The whole set is now tagged. – Fayenatic London 11:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all per nom per WP:NONDEFINING. I'm sure some abandonware game demos are very interesting to torrent, but that's not Wikipedia's business. NLeeuw ( talk) 07:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Studies of right-wing politics

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 13#Category:Studies of right-wing politics

Category:Disasters in Philippines by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: delete. No reason to keep this open. Liz Read! Talk! 05:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The Philippines has no "territories" to speak of, as every square inch of the country is incorporated (i.e., there is no " unincorporated area" or unorganized areas). Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:44, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisting comment: Delete?
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  • Delete, once a previous CfD closure is implemented this category is empty. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. HueMan1 ( talk) 01:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment This category is empty now so there is nothing to Merge. Liz Read! Talk! 05:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arab-American gangs

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Arab gangs. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to Category:Arab gangs instead. AHI-3000 ( talk) 21:33, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Companies that operate fighter jets

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Category:Arab gangs

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Category:Wikipedians in Ngong Hills

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:49, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No other user pages in the parent category mention this location. – Fayenatic London 10:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Scholars of Greek language

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Category:Eastern Europe in fiction

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge articles. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Extremely WP:ARBITRARYCAT (really; read the category description). Indirect follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 27#Category:Video games set in Northern Europe (upmerged). Note: the "by country" child categories do not have to be upmerged; they are already in Category:Europe in fiction by country. Child category about video games has also been nominated for upmerging. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:38, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Manually merge per nom. In real life Eastern Europe is a fuzzy concept, even more in fiction. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Swingin' Utters

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient content for WP:EPONYMOUS category. – Fayenatic London 09:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Video games set in Eastern Europe

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The result of the discussion was: manually merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 27#Category:Video games set in Northern Europe (upmerged). Note: the "by country" child categories do not have to be upmerged; they are already in Category:Video games set in Europe by country. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Manually merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    agree with marco and nom. There's no need to cluster video settings by region. Mason ( talk) 23:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Eastern European restaurants

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT, unnecessary grouping of 3 restaurants which are already in the Russian, Ukrainian and Polish restaurants trees. I recommend Just Delete, there's no point in merging. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Central European art groups

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. There doesn't seem to be anything particularly "Central European" to the articles in this group. Some things are Czech, some Swiss, one German, one Austrian, one Swiss-Austrian and one Luxemburgish, but that's it. The contents do not suggest a larger "Central European" scope, let alone that the category has properly defined its scope. According to several definitions, Luxembourg and Switzerland belong to "Western Europe", while Czechia belongs to "Eastern Europe". The present grouping seems WP:OR. Upmerging to "Europe" resolves the arbitrariness. NLeeuw ( talk) 05:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Central European cuisine

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Just delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Main article Central European cuisine is already in parent Category:European cuisine and all subcategories just duplicate Category:European cuisine by country. NLeeuw ( talk) 05:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:National Heroes of North Korea

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Heroes of the Republic (North Korea). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Main article: Hero of the Republic. Not sure what the best name for this category is; should it specify North Korea in parentheses? I don't think "National" should be a part of the title; there doesn't seem to be any indication that it is in either Korean or English. toobigtokale ( talk) 21:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisting comment: Rename or delete?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: rename or delete?
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Category:1990s Japanese superhero films

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. As Liz says. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Why do we need this which has only a few entries? All content has been transferred to Category:Japanese superhero films and Category:1990s Japanese films. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
See other similar cats. Again, 2 subcats and 3 articles does not strike me as an indecently low number: 'Categories which intersect two (or more) topics or characteristics can result in very narrow categories with few members. Such categories should only be created when both parent categories are large enough for diffusion to be an option, and when similar intersections can be made for related categories.' That seems to be the case here and up-merge seems unnecessary.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Lapinjärvi (municipality)

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 21:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Renamed the main article Lapinjärvi, Finland. Peltimikko ( talk) 17:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Revert article rename, it is unnecessary to add ", Finland", there is no ambiguity and other municipalities in Category:Municipalities of Eastern Uusimaa do not have this addition either. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I agree with Marco; keep this category and per WP:BOLDMOVE (If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself) I have undone the move. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There ARE other municipilities with added ”, Finland” in Category:Cities and towns in Finland, such as Nokia, Finland or Rauma, Finland or Outokumpu, Finland. Only Lapinjärvi is ”(municipality)”. Peltimikko ( talk) 03:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • For Nokia a disambiguator is necessary because the article Nokia is about the company. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:09, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Let's see if the RM concludes as moved, or if there is consensus to rename here.
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If I may make a suggestion to the closer, I think closing this as no consensus is the best way forward. All of the above comments will be irrelevant once the RM is closed, and therefore a fresh discussion will be more productive than trying to continue this one. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia

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Category:Wikipedians with autism

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Autistic Wikipedians. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is about Person-first/identity-first language.

For many conditions/disabilities/traits, the use of person-first language is preferred or there is no consensus. This was also true in the past for autistic people. However, within the last few years, particularly since the rise of the Autism_rights_movement and its focus on self-advocacy, use of identity-first language has become much more preferred and prominent among people who are actually autistic.

While neurotypical people have no consensus on person-first or identity-first language, this category is used specifically by people who are actually autistic. So, in order to better represent people who self-identify with the category, it would be better for it to be named "Autistic Wikipedians".

A notable American organisation supporting person-first language is Autism Speaks. However, Autism Speaks has been criticised and boycott by the autism rights movement because it does not reflect the needs or desires of self-advocating autistic people.

References within Wikipedia articles

Although some prefer to use the person-first terminology person with autism, most members of the autistic community prefer autistic person or autistic in formal English, to stress that autism is a part of their identity rather than a disease they have. In addition, phrases like suffers from autism are objectionable to many people, and are discouraged by prominent style guides.

—  Autism_rights_movement#Terminology

Identity-first language is preferred by many autistic people and organizations run by them.

—  People-first_language#Criticism

References from reliable sources

Autistic adults and parents were more likely to select an [identity-first language] term. The identity-first terms “I am autistic” (64.1%) and “I have autism” (13.1%) were the most common terms selected.

—  Preferences for identity-first versus person-first language in a US sample of autism stakeholders by Amanda Taboas, Karla Doepke, Corinne Zimmerman in the United States.

This article shows autistic people generally prefer identity-first language, while other people who aren't autistic may prefer person-first language or may have no preference. Since this category is about Wikipedians who are autistic self-identifying, it makes sense to use identity-first language. This is more likely to respect the identity of the people in the category.

There has been a recent shift from person-first to identity-first language to describe autism. In this study, Australian adults who reported having a diagnosis of autism (N 198) rated and ranked autism-terms for preference and offensiveness, and explained their choice in free-text. ‘Autistic’, ‘Person on the Autism Spectrum’, and ‘Autistic Person’ were rated most preferred and least offensive overall. [...] Statements in this theme reflected that being autistic is core to these participants’ sense of self, and not something that can be removed or separated from them (i.e., their autism is not an ‘accessory’)

—  “It Defines Who I Am” or “It’s Something I Have” by Simon M. Bury, Rachel Jellett, Jennifer R. Spoor, Darren Hedley in Australia.

Alternatives considered

  • No change: "Category:Autistic Wikipedians" is a redirect to "Category:Wikipedians with autism". It is not possible for Wikipedians to add the "Autistic Wikipedians" category to their user page. This is because bots will edit their user page to "Category:Wikipedians with autism" in an attempt to "fix" the redirect.
  • Another name: As per the Australian paper, the term "Person on the Autism Spectrum" was most consistently ranked and offended the fewest people, though it wasn't the most preferred term as frequently as "Autistic Person".

While "Autistic Person" may not appeal to every single person who self-identifies as autistic, it overall has greater appeal in English-speaking communities than "Person with autism". CauliflowerMoon ( talk) 09:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Support making a change. My impression has been that the general preference in the community is to use Identity first language rather than person first language. Annoyingly, I could have sworn that the APA style guide used autism as an example for identity first preference... but it seems I was either misremembering or it was changed [1]. One core tenent that I think is extremely applicable from the APA guide: "Use person-first or identity-first language as is appropriate for the community or person being discussed. The language used should be selected with the understanding that disabled people's expressed preferences regarding identification supersede matters of style. " I think creating three categories with a user box template could be a workable solution. We could have the main category be: Category:Wikipedians on the Autism Spectrum, and have two child categories with Category:Autistic Wikipedians and Category:Wikipedians with autism. Mason ( talk) 00:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Mixed Do whatever you want. But this seems a little bit pointless to me, maybe that's just me. As an autistic person myself i don't care what happens, both seem fine to me AuroraANovaUma ( talk) 23:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Emigrants from British North America

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:30, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's only one category in here, whish isn't helpful for navigation. Also a followup to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_24 Mason ( talk) 01:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. As in the previous discussion, I would be ok with a follow-up proposal to rename pre-confederation Canada to British North America. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian association football cup seasons

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. @ GiantSnowman, you may wish to start a new nomination. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Suggesting rename for consistency with Category:Soccer cup competitions in Australia. – Fayenatic London 16:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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April 4

Category:Hualien County high schools

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Mason ( talk) 20:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Same disruptive OP. @ Liz, can you block him from category space? Mason ( talk) 20:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, again a whole tree for a single article. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Just a note that Category:High schools in Hualien City has been emptied. Regarding the editor I think you are referring to, I gave him a final warning but I guess it had no impact. Ponyo has already blocked them from category space, indefinitely. I would have gone to a limited duration block but they can always appeal. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Ponyo thanks for the block, Liz thanks for the explanation. NLeeuw ( talk) 00:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:18th-century Roman Catholic churches in the Canary Islands

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. There's not enough content to diffuse these churches by century. Mason ( talk) 19:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Mayors of populated places in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Page out of phase with its siblings in Category:Mayors by country. This was speedy-moved to its current name in November with a rationale that wasn't entirely applicable to it -- it cited the precedent of several "American X by city" containers having been moved to "American X by populated place", but this isn't subject to that same issue because it wasn't "Mayors of cities".
All other countries across the board are at "Mayors of places" rather than "Mayors of populated places", with this as the only outlier -- and while there may be a case that they should be at "populated places" too, that would have to be done to all categories right across the board, because it's not just a special US-specific issue. Further, all of the state-level subcategories here have also been left at "mayors of places" rather than "mayors of populated places", but they would also all have to be moved on the same grounds too.
The problem with "by city" isn't automatically applicable to "by place" as well — the problem with the former is that sometimes towns and villages also have relevant content that can't be accurately categorized as "city", but "places" isn't subject to that same issue because towns and villages are also places, and obviously an unpopulated place can't have a mayor by definition. So moving "mayors of places" to "mayors of populated places" would be a valid discussion to have as to whether it's needed or not, but it isn't automatically militated by anything that's happening to "by city" categories because it isn't the same issue.
Accordingly, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody's willing to tackle a comprehensive batch move of all "Mayors of places" categories to "Mayors of populated places", but there's no reason why this one specific category would need to stand alone as a unique divergence from all of the other categories. Bearcat ( talk) 18:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Assassinated people by year

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Ungrammatical naming convention. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 14:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Strong support. Lots of people will have been killed in a different century than they were born. This renaming centres the time of death, and makes the category's purpose unambiguously clear. In this context, the date of birth is WP:NONDEFINING.
NLeeuw ( talk) 16:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename, while I don't really expect that people have been categorized by date of birth, the proposed names are nevertheless clearer than the current names. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support rename! Mason ( talk) 19:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:NRW Trophy

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American Football (band)

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Category:International Challenge Cup

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The result of the discussion was: delete as unopposed and empty. ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Empty category. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Yes, it only contains an empty category. Liz Read! Talk! 19:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
And now it is completely empty. Liz Read! Talk! 20:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American insect pathologists

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Category:People convicted in the Offenburg trials

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 02:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. The only person in this category was convicted in the Buchenwald trial. Offenburg trials is not even a page on Wikipedia Mason ( talk) 00:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the article does not mention he was convicted in the Buchenwald trials. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I was basing it on the infobox. But delete is also good with me. Mason ( talk) 19:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I have removed it from the infobox. The subject of the article is not listed in Buchenwald trial while that seems an exhaustive list. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 3

Category:Categories by state or territory of Taiwan

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Just a huge mess delete/merge these duplicate categories Mason ( talk) 23:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete, a huge tree for only a few articles is not helpful at all. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Architecture in Asia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant categories/duplicate categories by the same user Mason ( talk) 23:28, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Terrorist incidents in Upper Kohistan District, Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. If not merged, the category needs to be renamed to reflect that this is Upper Kohistan District Mason ( talk) 23:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Crime in Shangla, Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was: delete/alt merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. If not merged, the category needs to be renamed to reflect that this is Shangla District Mason ( talk) 23:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Modernist architecture in Taiwan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: unhelpful categories made by the same disruptive user. Only have one page in them related to a current event. Mason ( talk) 22:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Asian culture by state or territory

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Nonsensical categories. Mason ( talk) 22:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • These categories are currently empty. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, recently created empty duplicates of existing cats. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tourist attractions in Taiwan by populated place

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful by the same disruptive category creator. Also the template the page creator used for Historic-Cultural Monuments only applies to California. OP keeps making categories and refuses to take feedback. Mason ( talk) 22:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Buchenwald concentration camp medical personnel

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation when you only have one person in here Mason ( talk) 23:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Transgender genocide

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate categorization: other than the main article, none of these topics are defined by their association with the disputed concept of transgender genocide. Some articles may need upmerging. ( t · c) buidhe 21:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 22:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Brazilian city councillors

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The result of the discussion was: rename as unopposed. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 02:55, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Juridically, it's called municipality, not city. See also subcategories/siblings at Category:Councillors in South America. -- MikutoH talk! 21:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Czech saints

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Category:Babson Beavers

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 02:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun ( talk) 18:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. Standard categorization scheme. Jweiss11 ( talk) 00:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
What guideline is that? Let'srun ( talk) 13:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
No formal guideline that I know of it, but it reflects the standard practice for scores of editors for more than a decade in topic areas covering hundreds of thousands of articles. What guideline is "lacks subjects"? Jweiss11 ( talk) 02:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. No objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Merge for now. "Standard categorization scheme." is not a good reason to keep a category. Its effectively saying this is how its been done, so no need to change it. It's effectively Argument from inertia. Mason ( talk) 21:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Crafts deities

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Category:Words and phrases by language

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Category:Magazine editors by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mason ( talk) 13:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No need to diffuse by nationality with 1 (possibly 2 categories) Mason ( talk) 13:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Giorgio Cini Foundation

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: unhelpful for navigation to have the contents of the category are only vaguely related. a link would be suffient Mason ( talk) 13:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Food gods

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Category:Children of Charairongba

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Totally unnecessary cat with just two entries PepperBeast (talk) 11:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Italian publication editors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic of the only article in the category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. I have formally warned the page creator, who has not been responsive to the wall of messages on their talk page. Mason ( talk) 13:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages with own distinct writing systems

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Definition of "distinctive" seems to make this a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT PepperBeast (talk) 04:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei script

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Meitei script

Category:Shumang Kumhei

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Category:Meitei Brahmins

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Meitei Brahmins

Category:Titular Meitei princes

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Confusing, at best. None of these people seems to be titled, or a Prince. They just seem to share a surname and are somehow related to royalty. PepperBeast (talk) 04:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei princesses

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Indian princesses and Category:Meitei royalty. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Very small cat, overlapping. PepperBeast (talk) 04:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sanaleipak

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Grab-bag of unrelated items WP:SHAREDNAME PepperBeast (talk) 03:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei as a second or foreign language

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Definitely WP:NONDEF PepperBeast (talk) 03:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom Mason ( talk) 13:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. WP:OR as well. English is probably the second language of most continental Europeans, but we're not gonna put all ethnic groups in continential Europe in a category just because of that. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:31, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei language in Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Just two articles. PepperBeast (talk) 03:37, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Linguistic groups of the constitutionally recognised official languages of India

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rather convoluted thinking, and definitely WP:NONDEF. PepperBeast (talk) 03:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Phouoibi

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Tiny category of one eponymous article, one film, and one play. PepperBeast (talk) 03:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Kangla

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Basically duplicates the disambiguation page of the same name. PepperBeast (talk) 03:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Translations into Meitei

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Tiny category of only two pages. PepperBeast (talk) 03:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Medicine goddesses

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems like a lot of overlap/duplication. PepperBeast (talk) 03:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Not sure about the semantics, but seems like medicine is a human activity or product, while health is said to be bestowed upon humans as a blessing by deities. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Abundance goddesses

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The result of the discussion was: Aborted. I think I've ballsed this up slightly and will re-list. (non-admin closure) PepperBeast (talk) 11:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems like a lot of overlap. PepperBeast (talk) 02:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Maintenance deities

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rather strange category. I couldn't really find much to support it as WP:CATV, and the articles included weren't much help. PepperBeast (talk) 02:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Agreed The majority of pages in this category don't make much sense being here. Vishnu would be the only exception, but he may be better referred to as a god of preservation. Invokingvajras ( talk) 03:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support deletion, what the hell does "Maintenance deities" even mean anyways? Also delete Category:Abundance deities too for the same reasons. AHI-3000 ( talk) 21:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I actually think Abundance deities should be changed to Wealth deities and Commerce deities should be merged into that. PepperBeast (talk) 01:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Never heard of them, and there don't seem to be RS for them either. Seems like some Wikipedia category maintenance is in order... NLeeuw ( talk) 20:22, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Non-binary people by sexual orientation

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Non-binary people by sexual orientation


Category:Company editors

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I'm nominating this category and, by extension Category:Italian company editors and Category:Italian company editors by type because I can't find a definition on Wikipedia of what a "company editor" is and so I don't know who would or would not be included in this category. Categorization on Wikipedia is not supposed to be ambiguous and so I think either a definition should be included on a main space article or this category needs to be deleted or renamed. Liz Read! Talk! 01:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:20th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Aruba

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There are only 4 churches in this entire tree, which is not helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 2

Category:People executed by Sweden by guillotine

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one person in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 22:08, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge per nom. I would say "for now", but I wouldn't expect this cat to have potential for growth. Then again, WP:CRYSTAL... NLeeuw ( talk) 20:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • merge per nom. According to the one article in the category, only one person was ever executed by guillotine in Sweden, so there are no other articles which could be added (or missing articles which could be written). Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 19:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Vandalism on Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: Category:Vandalism on Wikipedia has only one page on it. What's the point in keeping it around? TheTechie (formerly Mseingth2133444) ( t/ c) 15:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisting comment: The category was not tagged; I will do so.
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Category:Translators from Quebec

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCLOCATION, not meeting either of the two criteria on which that would be allowed. The parent categories are not otherwise subdivided by province of origin at all, and are not large enough to need diffusion on size grounds, so this isn't part of any comprehensive scheme -- but being from Quebec does not define a translator differently than being from anywhere else in Canada does, so Quebec doesn't need special treatment here that other provinces aren't also getting. (And no, it doesn't map neatly to whether the person is an English-to-French translator or a French-to-English translator, either -- Quebec anglophones and ROC francophones both still exist, so a person from anywhere in Canada can equally do either thing.) So this is a scheme that would really only be necessary if it were possible to all-ten-provinces-and-three-territories it right across the board, and is not a thing Quebec needs in isolation. Bearcat ( talk) 14:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. It also escapes me why there are gendered categories for translators. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support in principle. But also merge to Writers from Quebec‎. The gender intersection is because one of the parents is writers. Mason ( talk) 23:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Still, that does not require every subcategory to be split by gender too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not at all wedded to the necessity of subdividing translators by gender — most countries don't have that at all (India has one for women, but not for men, and even for women it's the only other country I know of that has one), and even the Canadian ones featured here were newly created by the same editor who created these Quebec subcategories on the same day just under a month ago, so there's absolutely a valid argument to be made that the gendered categories aren't necessary either. But that would be a fundamentally different argument than the one against these Quebec subcategories, so it wouldn't have made sense at all to bundle them directly into this discussion. They can certainly be nominated for a separate discussion if you feel strongly about it, but I didn't nominate them here simply because the question of whether gendered categories are necessary or not is a completely separate issue from whether Quebec categories are necessary or not. Bearcat ( talk) 17:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
We don't need a subcategory just for Quebec if no other Canadian province has one. That's not a "one province gets special treatment because hey why not" scenario, it's an "either all 13 provinces and territories get subcategories across the board or none do, with no middle ground" scenario. Bearcat ( talk) 03:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:The Sultan of Two Lands and the Khan of Two Seas

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (Though I will note that WP:SMALLCAT has been deprecated.) (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Textbook WP:SMALLCAT and rather pointless. This is one of several subsidiary titles of the Ottoman Sultans, and not a distinguishing feature as such. We don't even have an article on this specific title, unlike e.g. analogues such as King of the Four Corners which are notable precisely because they were reused by successive polities and their rulers. Constantine ✍ 20:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic and overlaps with Ottoman sultans. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF. Note: Smallcat has been deprecated and is no longer applicable. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages used in Doordarshan

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Category:Scholars by language of study

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Redundant layer. Both other children are already in target. NLeeuw ( talk) 16:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. As both other children are already in the target this is in fact just a deletion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support as the category creator. I think my reasoning was that not all Basque language scholars were linguists, but I don't feel strongly about it. Mason ( talk) 20:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:The Breakfast Club

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: With only a song from the film as the only other article, I don't think this warrants a category. -- wooden superman 15:48, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the articles already link to each other directly. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Grammarians of Arabic

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Grammarians of Arabic to Category:Linguists of Arabic. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an opposed speedy renaming nomination:
Copy of speedy nom
  • Category:Grammarians of Arabic to Category:Linguists of Arabic – C2C: Siblings within Category:Linguists by language of study are all named Linguists of Fooian. NLeeuw ( talk) 01:18, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Oppose Is the tharget the same as Category:Arabists? – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 01:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I don't think so. "Foo-ists" usually refers to scholars of both language and culture, whereas "linguists of Fooian" restrict themselves to, well, linguistics. It might be useful to draw a comparison with my own cultural milieu here. My native language is Dutch, my country of residence and nationality is the Netherlands. The study of both country and language is known as Category:Dutch studies (Neerlandistiek in Dutch), but you'll immediately notice that the contents of the category are very much focused on the country of the Netherlands and not so much on the Dutch language (also widely spoken and written in Belgium and Suriname, though these countries tend not to be of great interest, as the category seems to show). Similarly, in my experience, there is a lot of overlap between Arabists and scholars of Islam, as Arabic culture and Islamic religion are considered closely intertwined, even though linguistics are strictly speaking a separate discipline. But maybe it's better to move to full because there are lots of nuances to be made here. NLeeuw ( talk) 02:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Ok I've just found Category:Philologists of Arabic and now I'm confused as to what the difference is between the three. Let's just move go full. NLeeuw ( talk) 02:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Related discussion going on here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 2#Category:Grammarians of Persian.
I thought grammarians and linguists were synonyms, and this cat should be renamed in accordance with its siblings in Category:Linguists by language of study. But I'm not so sure anymore after some colleagues pointed out that previous CfDs resulted in Keeping grammarians of ancient languages, and that grammarians are just one type of linguists, just like philologists, lexicographers, and in this case Arabists. So, maybe renaming isn't a good idea, but instead we should make Category:Linguists of Arabic a parent of Category:Grammarians of Arabic, Category:Philologists of Arabic, Category:Arabists, and perhaps other members of subdisciplines of Arabic linguistics? NLeeuw ( talk) 15:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Pinging @ LaundryPizza03, Fayenatic london, and Marcocapelle: from closely related discussions. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Option 1 It is not yet clear if there are enough linguists here who are not grammarians. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 01:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hah, seems like I'm gonna convince you after all. :) NLeeuw ( talk) 22:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion

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Category:LGBT people by identity

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The result of the discussion was: merge all to Category:LGBT people. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: As concerned here and here, the term identity is sketchy since sexual orientation isn't necessarily a sexual identity (and some argue identity is a choice compared to the term orientation). The original category uses "by variation". Not sure if it's the best. We can reparent these categories anyways.
Also, separating transgender from marginalized sexual orientations is exclusionary, as concerned here
-- MikutoH talk! 02:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Variation is not a term I’ve ever heard use by anyone referring to their orientation or identity. It sounds very inhumane and may actually be considered a form of othering - so I do not think that that could be used to refer to people - especially since all of these categories require positive self identification of the people tagged with these categories.
The worldwide WP:COMMONNAME use of the terms are “ sexual orientation”, " romantic orientation" and “ gender identity” - that is what the LGBTQ+ community, as well as the scientific community use. Anything else would be strange and artificial - Wikipedia follows, not leads in definitions.
Many people have multiple gender identities and sexual and romantic orientations. All of these are part of their overall Identity as an individual, hence "identity" is the overall root. Raladic ( talk) 04:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Has this been notified to the LGBT project? It really needs to be. Sympathetic to some simplfication, but I'd like to hear from those more involved, who I'm sure will have views. I'm pretty sure "variation" won't fly. I notice all our Category:Queer people seem to be female (or... not gay men anyway) which I don't think is how the term is generally used. Johnbod ( talk) 11:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I came here from WP:LGBT/Alerts, but a notice on the talk page might get more attention.-- Trystan ( talk) 13:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support alternative merge. I do like the alternative merge and grouping with sort keys. Strong Oppose to rename. "Variation"? I really really do not like the term variation, and would definitely be bothered if someone referred to my sexual orientation or gender identity as variation. (I know that this is anecdotal, and just one queer person, but that's my immediate reaction to the term). Mason ( talk) 21:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I noticed Lists of LGBT people#LGBT people by demographic uses "by demographic" instead of identity. Would this suit better? -- MikutoH talk! 23:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • @ MikutoH: "demographic" is, like "variation", also a word that is almost never used in common language in this particular context. Why would you want to keep this category layer in the first place? Isn't it much more natural to find lesbian, transgender etc. people directly under LGBT? Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I second the concern with demographic. Demographic is typicalyl used to describe a variety of groupings. If I were to see the term by demographic in the title of a wiki category, I'd assume it was looking at the intersections of nationality, race, and other broad classes of groupings. It would never occur to be that it would contain non-intersections, like Lesbian, Gay, Queer, Trans, etc. Mason ( talk) 23:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle: The only reason presented here to merge all container layers to the general category is making them all visible at it. Because merging both subcategories into "by identity" would solve the problem regarding them being separated. I'm not the only one supporting keeping it, it seems that Raladic supports status quo, and you also supported both choices suggested by Trystan, one of them supports keeping "by identity" cat and merging its subcategories.
    Why am I bringing "by variation" and "by demographic" here? Because then we can move the category in simplewiki (it hasn't RfD) and change the list section title. -- MikutoH talk! 23:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose as constituted, but not fundamentally against other alternatives. "Variation" is absolutely not the right word for what this entails, so that's a non-starter — but just upmerging them to the parent would be fine. Bearcat ( talk) 17:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment, if we merge "by gender identity" somewhere, Category:People with non-binary gender identities and Category:Transgender people should be reparented to Category:People by gender too. -- MikutoH talk! 00:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose either "by variation" (at worst othering, at best a confusing term which nobody else uses) and "by demographic" (I agree with Mason's interpretation above of what that would suggest, and it doesn't seem to fit the current category). Support the merge suggested by Marcocapelle. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 19:42, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province activities

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as in the updated nomination. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant and WP:OVERLAPCAT, I suspect nearly all activities would fit into Category:ISIS (K) terrorist incidents. Brandmeister talk 10:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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FFS, the category creator made more! Delete/merge all. Mason ( talk) 21:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ Smasongarrison: which ones? Feel free to add them here. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Oh sorry, I was reacting to the fact that you had found more categories by the creator. There aren't new ones beyond this list. Mason ( talk) 13:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Forts in the Caribbean

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The result of the discussion was: split/merge/rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:58, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only a few islands have fortifications other than forts, so using "forts" will be more useful, enabling categorisation directly within Forts by country. Some unnecessary layers can be merged, and some names need correcting/disambiguating. – Fayenatic London 08:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment

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The result of the discussion was: purge of biographies. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: purge biographies, as members of Hamas, al-Qaeda etc the view of these people towards Israel is obvious and does not define these people individually. Add a header on the category page that the category is not meant for biographies. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. This seems like a reasonable decision to me. XTheBedrockX ( talk) 14:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. thanks for the ping:) I really like the idea of adding the header on the category page. Soyembika ( talk) 22:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to Category:Anti-Zionism, I don't think we really need this category. Otherwise, I still support purging if this category is kept. AHI-3000 ( talk) 20:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I support purging, but not merging. Mason ( talk) 19:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jewish communities in Palestine temporarily abandoned during the mandate period

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Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms by Muslims 1941-49

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Category:18th-century American slave owners

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Category:Grammarians of Persian

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Same scope. All grammarians are linguists and vice versa. NLeeuw ( talk) 01:25, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 1

Category:Sole survivors of indigenous peoples

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Last known members of an Indigenous people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: alternative name, sole survivors has a disaster connotation. I'm modeling it off of Category:Last known speakers of a language Mason ( talk) 23:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Boxing matches in Las Vegas

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley with no prejudice against speedy renomination for a merger. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The vast majority of these matches actually took place outside of the Las Vegas city limits. User:Namiba 01:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I would prefer it fit neatly into Category:Sports competitions in the Las Vegas Valley-- User:Namiba 12:45, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Marcocapelle, would you be opposed to the rename if the category is not merged? —  Qwerfjkl talk 12:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Fair question. In principle diffusing by Las Vegas Valley does not make a lot of sense because the far majority of human activity in Nevada takes place there. But, considering nominator's rationale, closing this as no consensus is the worst possible outcome. So the answer to the question is no, I would not be opposed. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:29, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Vampires in animated television

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The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This name feels more rigidly defining and less open to interpretation. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 22:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Rename to Category:Animated television shows about vampires to match other categories. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 00:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose: Honestly, looking at shows in this category, half of these seem to be not really surround narration about vampires. is Duck Dodgers, Adventure Time, Gravedale High, Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi really "about vampires" or various topics that happen to include a vampire? The previous title seems to match this relatively small cycle of tv series. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 21:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I mean, those topics would not be WP:DEFINING anyway and should probably be removed. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 15:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cheese and Pasta

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Category:Disasters in Golaghat

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The result of the discussion was: delete Category:Disasters in Golaghat; merge Category:History of Golaghat to Category:History of Assam and Category:Golaghat district. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for now. These categories were all made by the same user for the page Golaghat highway accident, who has been advised to not create duplicate/single page categories. There is no need to have a category with a single page in it. If not merged, the categories should be renamed to "Golaghat district". Mason ( talk) 21:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages associated with classical dances of India

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't seem to be a particularly natural or useful category. PepperBeast (talk) 20:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Bulgarian encyclopedias

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Category:Saint Anthony the Great abbeys

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:29, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge or delete. This isn't helpful for navigation to carve out two abbeys that are associated with a saint Mason ( talk) 13:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There shouldn't be two categories as this is largely a matter of WP:SHAREDNAME. It is merely a coincidence that one of the two articles does contain some legendary information about Saint Anthony the Great. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:European gangs

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The only item is child Category:European-American gangs‎ right now, and all of them are groups that were or are active in the United States. This doesn't fit in parents Category:Crime in Europe or Category:Culture of Europe. No doubt there are what you might call "gangs" in Europe, but they are not to be found in this category. For this, the Category:Gangs in Europe already exists. But I don't think a merger would make much sense, as there is little overlap between the two. NLeeuw ( talk) 16:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 00:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Regional Mexican culture

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Same scope. Note: I've speedied the target category to be renamed to Category:Culture of Mexico by state. If approved, I will change the target in this nomination. But I think the situation is simple enough to already propose this merger.  Done NLeeuw ( talk) 15:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Regional French culture

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Unlike Category:Regional Spanish culture that I nominated earlier today, this cat almost completely overlaps with its parent. The only difference is the child Category:Culture of the Basque Country, which is mostly focussed on culture in the Basque Country (autonomous community) in Spain, and has virtually nothing to do with the French Basque Country. Anything that is relevant to French Basque culture could be placed in Category:Culture of Nouvelle-Aquitaine if necessary. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:I-Kiribati chiefs

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, currently only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Klingon-language operas

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Category:Dutch encyclopedias

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Category:Meitei language encyclopedias

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category with only one entry. PepperBeast (talk) 11:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. It is not useful to categorize the article by language since no less than 23 languages are involved. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom and Marcocapelle. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Irish people of Antigua and Barbuda descent

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Category:Islands of the Caribbean part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an unnecessary layer just holding the historical Islands of the Netherlands Antilles and Islands of Aruba. The parent hierarchy Dutch Caribbean may need a complete overhaul, but this layer can easily be merged first. – Fayenatic London 11:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Service industries in the Dutch Caribbean

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer with only one sub-cat. – Fayenatic London 12:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:63 BC disestablishments

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, isolated year category while the other disestablishments in this period are categorized by century. Move article Seleucid dynasty to Category:1st-century disestablishments. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Regional Spanish culture

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The result of the discussion was: purge and merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:CROSSCAT. The words "regional" and "Spanish" take up multiple ambiguous meanings, depending on the child category. "Spanish" can mean "Spain", "Spanish nationality", "Spanish diaspora" or "Spanish language", while "regional" can mean "city", "autonomous community", "country" (Spain, Canada and the United States), "continent(s)" (Spanish America) or "archipelago" (Caribbean). This is a mishmash. If anything, we should adhere to the category tree, which is indicated by parent Category:Culture of Spain. Category:Culture by city in Spain and Category:Spanish culture by autonomous community‎ fit in that tree, and shoud be upmerged to this parent. The rest does not, and should be Purged. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Victoria Williams tribute albums

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The result of the discussion was: procedural keep. @ Koavf. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 09:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:05, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: All of my rationales for this and similar categories can be found at the January 2023 discussion about Laura Nyro tribute albums, for which there was no consensus. I can recreate those arguments here if desired. What I would really like to do is to have a larger discussion on this and seek consensus for categorization across the various tribute albums categories. Thanks to all for their contributions. KConWiki ( talk) 01:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I agree that a larger conversation is warranted. KCon, should you agree, ping me here and I'll close this conversation on this particular category. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 16:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @Koavf - Sounds good to me, let me know where the discussion will be taking place. Thanks for your efforts. KConWiki ( talk) 00:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Anti-Zionist Christians

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Category:Riojan music

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 12:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only item is Music of Navarre and La Rioja, which has been an unsourced three-sentence stub since 2005. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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PS: 2nd target was renamed to Category:Culture of La Rioja. NLeeuw ( talk) 19:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Christian anti-Zionism

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Category:Women cryptographers by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 13:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    support upmerge for now Mason ( talk) 02:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Inactive anime conventions

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Category:Expressways in Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Two articles only. One of the articles is about an entirely hypothetical motorway as indicated in the entry, the other hypothetical by and beyond the straits. Rename to hypothetical expressways of the People's Republic of China. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 12:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename or delete?
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  • Delete, I think inclusion in Category:Proposed roads in Taiwan is accurate and sufficient. It's not really accurate to say that a road is "in" a purely notional province. — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs) 16:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, a road doesn't exist in a notional entity. Already covered in an existing category as mentioned, although other parent categories might also apply. CMD ( talk) 07:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Is there any category for notional matters of this country? 58.152.55.172 ( talk) 08:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Delete per Marco. IP, what's your goal here? You have better things to do with your time than this. Mason ( talk) 22:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Matters related to that country which makes the irredentist claims gotta be identified with that country itself. These matters do not belong to the actual location to which they are designated by that country. 58.152.55.172 ( talk) 08:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The target category you may be looking for would be Cross-strait relations. 46.226.162.228 ( talk) 19:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who are sick of blue categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Annual serious nomination of inappropriate joke categories on April Fools Day. Fails WP:USERCATNO. No reason for this to need to exist to defer open uprising against consensus since the sole member is long gone. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who enjoy cracking wise with categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Annual serious nomination of inappropriate joke categories on April Fools Day. Fails WP:USERCATNO. No reason for this to need to exist to defer open uprising against consensus since one of the members is long gone and the other has not objected to a previous joke category being deleted. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 31

Category:Arabian freedmen

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason ( talk) 23:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Just delete, the article is still in Category:Slaves from the Abbasid Caliphate. Presumably it was not standard to free one's slaves but I can imagine that a larger proportion of notable slaves have been freed, so that the concepts are more overlapping in Wikipedia than they were in everyday medieval life. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Works for me Mason ( talk) 16:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Monochamini

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The article Monochamini redirects to Lamiini where they are listed as synonyms. Pichpich ( talk) 21:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:15th-century Maltese philosophers

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one person in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 18:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Infrastructure

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Category:14th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Moldavia

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one bishop in here, which isn't very helpful for navgation Mason ( talk) 18:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:16th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Portuguese Macau

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Category:16th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Africa

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Category:Malawian music by city

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary overcategorization of a small number of articles -- in both Blantyre and Lilongwe, the creator started "Musicians from [City]" categories that are fine on their own, but then vastly overdid everything else around them.
Firstly, they do not each require a separate "singers" subcategory: the musicians categories have just ten and seven articles in them, respectively, which is not large enough to require diffusion for different types of musicians, and the singers subcategories in turn have just two and four articles in them -- and obviously if the singers categories aren't necessary, then neither is Category:Malawian singers by city.
Secondly, with just two categories they don't need a dedicated Category:Malawian musicians by city container either, and can just be filed directly in Category:Malawian musicians.
Thirdly, they also don't need "Music in (City)" parents that don't have anything else in them (and have nothing else in the "City" parents that can be refiled into them either), which also vitiates the need for Category:Malawian music by city.
Fourthly, neither Category:People from Blantyre nor Category:People from Lilongwe have enough occupational subcategories to require chunking them out into "People from X by occupation" containers, and if those aren't needed then Category:Malawian people by city and occupation and Category:Malawian people by occupation and city also aren't needed either.
Again, the musicians subcategories themselves are fine, but they don't need any of these as parent or child categories -- they can both just be filed directly in Category:Malawian musicians and the appropriate "People from X", and don't need this many layers of redundancy added to their family trees. Bearcat ( talk) 15:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom, this makes navigation through the tree a nightmare. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Bearcat, @ Marcocapelle There are many articles that need to be included in the categories above that haven't yet been added. If the categories are intended to be merged or deleted, I just wonder how this survives which uses the very same style and structure. If the intention is to have at least many articles into them, well then, would you give it a little time as I would look for articles to add into them (or even create some). Hopefully Wikipedia is work in progress. Thanks. Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 17:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Just because that exists doesn't mean this has to as well, because it's entirely within the realm of possibility that that shouldn't exist either. Nothing stops anybody from creating any unwarranted thing at any time, so the existence of one thing is not automatically validation for the existence of another. Bearcat ( talk) 17:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:British Kenya

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename, seems a straightforward case of WP:C2D but having this for full discussion just in case it isn't that straightforward. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • 'Support I see no reason to object and it is indeed close to a WP:C2D. Pichpich ( talk) 21:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arab-Jewish culture in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename as part of as part of Category:Arab-Jewish diaspora. This suggestion had some support at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 21#Category:Arab-Jewish culture in the United States. "Diaspora" would match some parent categories such as Egyptian-Jewish diaspora. I acknowledge that these are also part of Jewish culture by country, but IMHO conforming within Arab-Jewish diaspora would be most helpful. – Fayenatic London 07:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, the proposed names clarify better what these categories are about. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meta-Wiki autoconfirmed users

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for utterly lacking collaborative value. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who like Super Mario

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The result of the discussion was: delete. In line with previous consensus. It's worth noting the category contains only one member. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for utterly lacking collaborative value. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Pichpich ( talk) 21:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    It shouldn't be deleted because I keep expanding the page. Hjajajsbbxb12 ( talk) 15:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • That is not a reason to keep it. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:16, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • User:Hjajajsbbxb12, the size of the page isn't a factor. If the category is kept I'd recommend cleaning up the userbox clutter. It's normal and fine to have some userboxes appear on categories like this, but the page is pretty disorganized right now.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:USERCATYES. In my opinion this category is totally fine per Appropriate types of user categories § Categories which group users by interest in a subject: "This includes any grouping of users by interest in a subject – that is, interest in editing articles related to a certain topic – so long as the topic is not overly narrow or vague (see below: Categories that are overly narrow in scope, Categories that are vaguely defined)." These sorts of "Wikipedians who like x" are fairly common additions to userpages and I'd say Super Mario is a large enough series with an active enough base of interested Wikipedia editors improving the subject's coverage that it's reasonable for such a category to exist. I can't see anything in WP:USERCATNO that would suggest this an example of an inappropriate user category, as I don't think it's so narrow that it cannot conceivably be relevant to a broad number of users' editing.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 00:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Liking something is completely different than willingness to improve the encyclopedia with respect to this topic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I can't say I agree. I think it could reasonably go on the userpage of a member of the WikiProject Video games Nintendo task force because it seems analagous to the very populous Category:Wikipedians who like Pokémon. Of course, one could always say that category needs to go as well and nominate it here, but I think at that point you'd have to argue there should be no "Wikipedians who like <x>" categories of any sort and they should all be deleted, but that seems like the sort of thing that would require broader discussion about user category guidelines at some other venue. So for me personally, I'd need some convincing that this category is less related to improving the encyclopedia than other analagous categories which have long been understood to be acceptable.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Reading through that discussion, I agree with what Diriector_Doc had to say. I'll add that I think a better solution (if there exists a problem in the first place) would be to rename some of these "Wikipedians who like <x>" categories to "Wikipedians interested in <x>" so long as the subject is not too narrow to realistically relate to any editing areas. One thing that stood out as confusing in that previous deletion discussion was that the nom intentionally spared " Category:Wikipedians who like Game Center CX" solely because GameCenter CX is a show rather than a video game. What does that have to do with the collaborative value of the category? The bar for being kept versus deleted should be that a subject has enough coverage on Wikipedia that there exists an editing community (which can be said about some of those deleted categories), not "delete if it's a game series, keep if it's a television series."  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedian disc golfers

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for utterly lacking collaborative value, compare Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/User/Archive/April_2008#Category:Wikipedians_who_play_golf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pppery ( talk • contribs) 01:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 30

Category:History organizations based in Kazakhstan

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:18th-century Slovak physicians

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge as nominated. Categorization of Samuel Genersich can, of course, be discussed at Talk:Samuel Genersich. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Triple upmerge for now. There are only two people in this category, while the parent (18th-century Slovak people) has 6. Right now this isn't helpful for navigation to diffuse by occupation and century and nationality. Mason ( talk) 19:22, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Centuries in Almaty

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:French forts in the United States

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Category:Slovenian geriatricians

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 21:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse this medical specialty by nationality to this degree. Each of these noms have one or two people in them Mason ( talk) 22:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • That is a circular argument. After the merge very little of the tree will be left. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional categories were added to the nomination, relisting to allow time for discussion.
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Relisting comment: Due to suspected WP:MEAT.
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  • Merge in principle, but I'd prefer an RfC on the matter of upmerging categories for the sake of navigation. —  Qwerfjkl talk 19:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons

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The result of the discussion was: single merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects and does not aid navigation. Let'srun ( talk) 02:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now with only two articles, but presumably dual merge also to Category:College football seasons. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • dual merge also to Category:College football seasons – Huh? Why the heck would we want to merge a mere two of 30,000+ college football season articles to create a brand-new category called "College football seasons" – that makes absolutely zero sense. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      • It can be populated with many more articles when all subcategories with one or two articles are merged. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:33, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
        • That still makes no sense. If I wanted to find seasons of this team, I would look up "Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons", not a broad "College football seasons" category that has the potential for hundreds of thousands of entries! Not to mention such a category would be missing tens of thousands of articles for programs which have more than a few seasons with articles. It just doesn't make sense. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:42, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ Marcocapelle: are you alright with a single merge? House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Children of Ottoman sultans

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not all of the princes and princesses included in this list are children of the sultan, some are grandchildren. Векочел ( talk) 14:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. It is also a redudant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The fact that you mentioned is good reason to keep the category, it should be used for specifically children of Sultans, illegitimate ones too. ★Trekker ( talk) 18:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Academics of the College of the Resurrection

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Category:Aphex Twin songs

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Category:E7 nations

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Associated articles E7 (countries) deleted at AfD. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Political posters of Italy

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Category:Converts from Nontrinitarianism

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Early modern history by city

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, overlaps with Category:Centuries by city and Category:Decades by city. If kept, rename Category:Early modern history by city to Category:Early modern period by city per article Early modern period and parent Category:Early modern period. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:19, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Support rename if kept per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:English people by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:English people by descent. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A. rename per usage of "descent" in the subcategory names. B. purge Category:English Jews because the latter isn't about their ancestors but about what they are themselves (i.e. it is about ethnicity rather than about descent). This is part of a larger stale speedy nomination in which User:1234qwer1234qwer4, User:Anomalous+0 and User:Smasongarrison participated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep the existing name. The wording suggests it's about something broader than descent; and indeed national origin may not be something to do with or the same as ethnicity or ethnic origin. 83.229.61.201 ( talk) 15:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is not in fact broader, because the subcategories are by descent too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. I'm fine with adding Category:English Jews to the parent category. Being Jewish is nested under both ethnicity and religion, so as long as we have it in English people as well as the religion sub cat, I'm fine with purging. (otherwise it gets hidden in English people by religion) Mason ( talk) 17:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 21:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Is this discussion tied to the hundreds of "by ethnic or national origin" categories that have been sitting in Speedy Renames for weeks on the CFD page? If so, that should be mentioned that this one category rename could impact hundreds of other categories. Liz Read! Talk! 21:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Male television actors by ethnic or national descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not necessary, the subcategory is already part of Category:Belgian male television actors. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 01:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake

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Category:Kosovan LGBT-related films

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only page in here is already in the relevant subcategories of Kosovan films and LGBT-related films Mason ( talk) 01:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arabian agnostics

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Middle Eastern agnostics. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category is too small for navigation, isn't a nationality, and is probably not a defining intersection Mason ( talk) 01:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Asia and Category:Bangladeshi Roman Catholic bishops. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:20, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's only one list in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 00:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Administrations of prime ministers of the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:British premierships. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:British premierships. Administrations of PM's is the same as the Premiership. Since it refers to the same thing, this category is a redundant layer of subcats. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 00:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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29 to 35 days old

March 29

Category:Sunak administration

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Similar to categories for American presidencies. Examples being Category:Presidency of Joe Biden which relates to the Biden Administration which refers to the presidency/tenure of Biden as President. The same is true for a Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Their tenure is referred to as a Premiership and the main article is Premiership of Rishi Sunak. Not Sunak administration which refers to the premiership. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 23:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The ministry is the government which in itself is part of the administration. Even with the reshuffling of cabinet members, it doesn't warrant it's own category as it as part of one adminstration. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 14:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jessie (2011 TV series)

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The result of the discussion was: keep. WP:SMALLCAT is an invalid rationale, and the nom did not sufficiently argue how WP:EPONYMOUS applies here. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is the second time this category has been created, the first time being on April 20, 2021, and this current time being on March 21, 2024. It was previously deleted on May 12, 2021, per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Category:Jessie (2011 TV series), and nothing has really changed since then, so this should be deleted again.

What I said back then is still applicable now. To restate some of it: At absolute minimum, a template or category needs half a dozen items to be worth it, which, at present, this category has. However, that still does not necessarily merit inclusion, just like if something passes WP:V, it doesn't necessarily mean it should be included due to WP:DUE vs. WP:UNDUE. This category is also WP:EPONYMOUS, which means that only things related to the main topic should be listed here. In this case, the episode lists certainly don't belong here, which would bring the number of items down to four, but I even question the Indian adaptation. See also WP:SMALLCAT. Amaury • 22:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep as category creator. This seems very similar to the case of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Henry Danger. I really fail to see how the episode lists should not be included here. Plus WP:SMALLCAT has been deprecated since the original discussion. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 02:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nothing has changed since the last time you tried creating this, and I don't know what made you think something had. The other category has no relevance to this one. Amaury • 07:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep, it seems to me that this category was previously deleted per WP:SMALLCAT, which is now deprecated. Every single delete vote from 2021 mentions SMALLCAT. Di (they-them) ( talk) 05:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Medical schools in the Caribbean

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Category:IIHF Women's World Ice Hockey Championships

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Official tournament name as used by the IIHF. Maiō T. ( talk) 20:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:History of the Jamaica Province of the Moravian Church

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, the only article is mainly about Baptists rather than about the Moravian Church. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:.io video games

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Category:Rathores

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Category:2004 video games with demos

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Early modern period

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with Early modern period and Category:Early modern period. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of Italy by province

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. The subcategory is already in the tree of Category:History of Italy by region so a merge is not needed. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:42, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ethnonymic surnames

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:Toponymic surnames. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No such concept Ethnonymic surname in reliable sources. As original research, category created by banned user from created lots of mess in anthroponymic articles/categories.- Altenmann >talk 05:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:20th-century Bosnia and Herzegovina mathematicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There are only three Bosnia and Herzegovina mathematicians in the entire tree. Upmerge for now, there's no need to diffuse this category by century Mason ( talk) 03:42, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American consulting businesspeople

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 00:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Just delete, with very few exceptions these aren't management consultants at all, and "consulting" alone is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 28

Category:Swadesh lists

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in category PepperBeast (talk) 17:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Swadesh lists are sometimes embedded in sections of language family articles, but I've never seen then as stand-alone articles. Probably not notable enough for them either. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:24, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Šako Polumenta albums

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A category of redirects that all go to the same article with no info there on any of the albums except in a discography list. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 16:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Georgia at the UEFA European Championship

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Georgia national football team. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category with no imminent prospect of expansion. 2024 is apparently the first time Georgia have ever qualified for the UEFA, so there isn't any significant volume of Georgia-UEFA content to file here yet -- the base article itself is the only thing there is, and the country does not yet have any of the spinoff content that populates other countries' subcategories of Category:Countries at the UEFA European Championship. So no prejudice against recreation in the future if and when there's more content for it, but it isn't needed just for one article -- the article can just be filed in the base countries category (where it already is) and Category:Georgia national football team in the meantime. Bearcat ( talk) 15:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Under 20 Rugby Championship

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Too-small category for a brand-new thing. This is a new level of competition just being introduced for the first time at this year's Rugby Championships, so the 2024 edition is not just the only article filed here now, but the only article that can be filed here at this time. So no prejudice against recreation in the future when there are enough other articles to justify a category, but it isn't necessary for just one thing, and can be catted as part of the parent entity in the interim. Bearcat ( talk) 15:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. I created the cat - the author of the 2024 article had added it as a redlinked cat - might have been better deleting it! Agree with the nominator's rationale. Bcp67 ( talk) 17:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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New York (state) city template subcategories

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: both categories consists only of one navbox. —⁠ andrybak ( talk) 14:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom (the two pages are already in the target, so deletion suffices). Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arms (video game) characters

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only one article ( Twintelle). Seems to be a WP:NARROWCAT. No good merge targets. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 14:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as the creator. This was created before Min Min was redirected. No prejudice to recreation if Arms gets more character articles. QuicoleJR ( talk) 14:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sportspeople from Bastrop, Texas

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article, checked for more and there are none. User:Namiba 13:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Botswana male actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There are only two Botswana actresses in the entire tree (and three actors total). There's no need to diffuse by century, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 13:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate the categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:1990s Japanese superhero films

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Category:Australian association football cup seasons

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Category:Wikipedians with autism

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Category:Irish history awards

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article each, this is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate any of these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Disasters in Cotabato

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article, this is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 19:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Songs written by Carmol Taylor

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: redlink songwriter ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 02:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Songs written by Wayland Patton

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redlink songwriter ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 02:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Disasters in Philippines by province or territory

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Category:Events in the Philippines by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Events in the Philippines by province. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:00, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Events in the Philippines by province Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Categories by province or territory of the Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Categories by province of the Philippines. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Categories by province of the Philippines. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge or reverse merge, clearly duplicates. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:47, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The Philippines has no "territories". HueMan1 ( talk) 10:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of the Philippines by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of the Philippines by province. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:History of the Philippines by province. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of the Philippines. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category of Category:History of the Philippines. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:National Heroes of North Korea

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Category:Provinces and territories of the Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Provinces of the Philippines. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category of Category:Provinces of the Philippines.. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2010s Japanese superhero films

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 19:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All content has been transferred to the related categories Category:2010s Japanese films, Category:Japanese superhero films and Category:2010s superhero films. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
What do you mean, "content has been transferred"? You mean you've added those categories before the merge was decided? I'm not sure I like the idea, to be honest. I would have waited for this discussion to be closed (again) before doing that. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisting comment: 16 pages and 2 subcategories as of relisting.
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Category:Philipino culture by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Aside from being laughingly misspelled, it is a duplicate of Category:Philippine culture by province. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Hypergryph

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only has two pages, and one is a redirect. Even if we were to have an article for this, it should be named after Arknights and not the company, since Arknights is all that they are known for. We have Category:Doki Doki Literature Club! and Category:Bluey (2018 TV series), not Category:Team Salvato and Category:Ludo Studios. QuicoleJR ( talk) 01:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles about this topic are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 27

Category:E7 (countries)

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete or merge. The main article was deleted. The subcategory is enough. -- MikutoH talk! 23:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:United Football League (2009–2012) venues by team

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The league is defunct, the categories are small, and they are all already in Category:United Football League (2009–2012) venues. User:Namiba 14:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Members of the Philippine House of Representatives

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category; see Category:Members of the House of Representatives of the Philippines. Either way, we don't categorize representatives directly to categories such as this. Howard the Duck ( talk) 11:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Savannah Bananas players

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 10:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The Savannah Bananas are an exhibition barnstorming team. USA Today says to [t]hink of them like the Harlem Globetrotters, but for baseball. These notable individuals who are now categorized as playing for them did so as a one-time stunt. They do not "play" for the team. The few articles I've spot checked make no mention of their Bananas "tenure". This is a non-defining characteristic. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 18:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per nom. I agree, its a non-defining characteristic if these players appeared only once or twice as a publicity stunt. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Don't Delete only remove those that appeared a few times. They have full-time players though and the category should not be deleted. Batgirl-Awsomeness ( talk) 00:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The Savannah Bananas used to be a collegiate summer league team in the Coastal Plain League. This is defining for those players. However, the team eventually became an exhibition team, which is generally not defining for most of the players. I think we need purge those who made singular appearances but keep the category. Look at the articles in the category and you will see plenty of non-exhibition players.-- User:Namiba 18:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The question are they full-time players? Like do they regularly play like they would with a Major League team? I checked a few articles at random and it doesn't even mention they played with the team. One ex-major leaguer appeared in a few games in 2022 but not beyond that.
(Also, don't confuse the players for Savannah Sand Gnats as regular players for the Savannah Bananas. On a quick glance, it may seem like its the same team but the latter is a minor league team). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Rylan Bannon and Cade Marlowe are two players whose articles indicate that they played for the collegiate league team. More research is needed for the others in the category.-- User:Namiba 12:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC) reply
It is akin to the better known Category:Cape Cod Baseball League and is definitely defining.-- User:Namiba 13:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep, the team is notable per references at its page, and its players, if they have an article, certainly rate a categorization. Randy Kryn ( talk) 13:31, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Nazis in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: containerise. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 10:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not a notable list. The sub-categories are notable due to criminal or treasonous behavior. Additional members will appear to be guilty by association. Johnjbarton ( talk) 16:49, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Containerize (do not delete), the articles directly in this category are about people who may have been Nazi symphatisants, but that was mainly before they migrated to the United States. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I assume "containerize" means using Wikipedia:Container_category? What happens when an editor adds the category to an article? Johnjbarton ( talk) 17:45, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Then everyone can revert that, preferably with a reference in the edit summary to the containerization discussion if there was any. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      Thank you for your explanation. This solution then creates an ongoing maintenance issue that would not occur if we delete the category. Is there any notable reason to keep the category? Johnjbarton ( talk) 18:20, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      • It's not much different in maintenance than everyone being able to recreate a deleted category and everyone else being able to get it deleted again as G4. Having said that, I doubt if the two smaller subcategories are appropriate (one nominated above) and if they don't stay there isn't any reason to keep Category:Nazis in the United States after all. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lean containerise. I can live with helping with the maintenance if that's the only barrier. Mason ( talk) 19:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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English-language Bahamian films

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per longstanding stated criteria on precedents Category:English-language singers and Category:Songs in English, English-language categories should be excluded for countries where English is the majority language. The Bahamian category includes 100% of the articles about Bahamian films, making it pointless. The others may be a little more useful since they are siblings of Irish-language films, Scottish Gaelic-language films, Scots-language films and Welsh-language films, but as the the majority of the output from those countries is in English, I believe the English-language categories should be deleted as WP:OVERLAPCAT. Note that Irish, Scottish and Welsh have been explicitly excluded from the singers and songs categories since 2012. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • The oppose does not really address WP:OVERLAPCAT, these categories largely overlap with the whole tree of their parent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:26, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Minor league coaches

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a revisioned version of a previous Cfd related to Minor league coaches. These particular teams are defunct now and have only one and two articles respectively in them. Propose upmerging these two to the parent category. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 09:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose as it would break the scheme and eliminate them from a category connection with the team.-- User:Namiba 18:34, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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What I mean is that by deleting the team coaches category, there will no longer be any category linking them to that team. If there were a Category:Jamestown Expos, for example, I would support merging to that and the minor league coaches category.-- User:Namiba 11:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Christianity in Austria-Hungary

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no Category:Religion in Austria-Hungary as a potential merge target. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Griffith family

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The result of the discussion was: delete, but for real :) (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is supposed to have already been deleted but wasn't. Yours6700 ( talk) 07:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural comment, the category wasn't tagged back then, nor was it now. I just tagged it after all. A category won't be deleted by the bot if the page has not been tagged. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per Yours6700's original reasoning, which still applies to the category now. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 02:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per original CfD. Probably was just a technical issue. -- Lenticel ( talk) 02:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Family businesses of Germany

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per others in category - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 06:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:Nazis who died by suicide. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, partially trivial intersection (if their suicide was unrelated to being a Nazi), partially a very narrow intersection (while Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody should suffice). Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:01, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 22:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support as nominated Johnjbarton ( talk) 02:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose The list is of at least minor historical interest. It may not be something a large number of people would be interested in, but remember that "Wikipedia is not paper" and we are not forced to prioritize and choose between one article/list over another because we have virtually unlimited space, unlike a traditional paper encyclopedia. If the list doesn't contain any irreconcilably incorrect information or other serious issue that can't be fixed then what is the point of deleting it? I can think of plenty of potential reasons why someone may be interested to see the information the list provides.
Also, the logic behind "partially trivial intersection (if their suicide was unrelated to being a Nazi)" could also apply to other articles, for example, List of suicides of LGBT people if their suicide was unrelated to their being LGBT. Vontheri ( talk) 14:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I just wanted to point out that the two "support" votes are both basically just WP:PERX (one is even exactly word-for-word "per nom"). I'm the only one other than the nominator (so far, at least) who has actually given any real argument. Vontheri ( talk) 22:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Vontheri, If the rationale provided in a comment includes a comprehensive argument, specific policy references and/or a compelling presentation of evidence in favour of keeping or deletion, an endorsement of that argument may be sufficient. (Example: "Delete per nom. I find their argument that such and such policy is not met compelling")—  Qwerfjkl talk 21:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ Qwerfjkl I was told in another discussion that my "keep" comment was invalid based on WP:PERX because I said something like "keep, for the reasons given above by [another editor]". The [other editor] certainly gave a specific argument for keeping the pertinent article. So, that made me think that any vote with a reason given as similar to "per nom" was invalid. I don't want to start a tangent here, but this policy (like so many others) seems to be inconsistently interpreted and inconsistently enforced.
Regardless, to be on topic, my opinion on the deletion of this list remains oppose for the reasons as I already stated. Vontheri ( talk) 22:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Vontheri, There is a difference between supporting a nomination as compared to agreeing with something that a non-nominator has added to the discussion. In the first case, supporting is effectively saying I find the basis of this nomination reasonable, and I do not wish to write a lot to effectively say what you have already said.
Moreover, there have been several other nominations supporting the fact that the intersection between suicide, political orientation, and location isn't defining, with extremely rare exception. [ Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 11#Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Nazi Germany] Mason ( talk) 01:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I'd also like to state that I do not think that the comparison between the page:" List of suicides of LGBT people " and the category Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States is a fair comparison.
1) categories are not lists.
2) even if we were to hold this list to the same standard, there is a long history of literature on the fact that the intersection between sexual orientation and suicide is defining, there is not for the intersection of nazism, suicide, and suicide in the united states.
3) it is worth noting that the question is whether the intersection of the three, is defining, not merely whether nazism and suicide is defining.
4) LGBT is an EGRS category, while being a Nazi is not, so I find this entire line of comparison troubling.
Mason ( talk) 01:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Unless you happened to be a rocket scientist who only became a Nazi to 'advance his career' (which, of course, is a totally acceptable reason for joining the Nazi party. How else can you continue your life-long ambition of making huge explosions? /sarcasm), then execution, imprisonment, managing to create a new false identity, or suicide are generally the outcomes faced by those who were at least greater than low-ranking Nazis during WW2. Note that the leader of the Nazi party himself died by suicide, as did most of the other highest-ranking party members. So, yes, there definitely is an intersection between being a Nazi and suicide, and this has been documented numerous times over. Here are three of many potential examples: [1] [2], and [3]
Is there an intersection of the three that includes the United States? Let's look a bit more closely at the individual entrants in the category. With one exception ( Petras Polekauskas), all of the entrants either do not say the circumstances of their suicide or the relevant person either committed suicide while being prosecuted for their Nazi activities or while incarcerated, again, for their Nazi activities. So it does seem to me like there is an intersection between the three, and given that not all (or even most) of them were actually in prison when they ended their lives, moving them all to Category: Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody would not suffice. There is enough historical relevancy to keep the category, certainly more historical relevancy than this category: Category:Farmers who died by suicide (and I'm not proposing a purge, by the way)
Perhaps creating a new category called "Nazis who died by suicide by country" would be the best path forward, and then merging Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States" into it. As I mentioned before, "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is not sufficient.
By the way, what do you mean by "4) LGBT is an EGRS category, while being a Nazi is not, so I find this entire line of comparison troubling."? Because both LGBT and Nazism are political and "touchy" subjects, in rather opposite directions? Can we please use logic and reason and avoid emotions clouding our judgements while building an encyclopedia? And it seems EGRS categories were created for a somewhat opposite reason than implied, not as "protection" categories, but to avoid censorship.
I virtually never say anything personal about myself on Wikipedia (for an explanation of why, please see my user page), but I will make an exception one time because I feel I've been misunderstood: I lost one of my closest friends I've ever had about ten years ago now to suicide, and one of the largest reasons for his suicide was because he was gay and his family did not know and he feared that they would have a strongly negative reaction if they found out. So I'm not throwing around comparisons between LGBT suicide and Nazi suicides in the way I sense you are implying by "I find this entire line of comparison troubling." I intend to practice the Socratic Method at all times during discussions. That doesn't mean I'm perfect but it is my intent. I intentionally separate collective emotion of society from logic when engaging in "disputes" (I would say "arguments", but fear it would me misinterpreted, as I intend the old, original Socratic meaning of the word "argument") and, hoping I don't sound immodest, but I have been told that I have a gift for dealing with "heavy subjects" in an objective way.
An unrelated issue I found: " Michael Popczuk" redirects to a list that doesn't include or even mention him. I've made a post about it on the relevant talk page. Vontheri ( talk) 20:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Vontheri ( talk) 20:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
So I don't have the bandwidth to unpack your wall of text. But I will say two more things. 1) No one is disputing that the intersection between nazism and suicide is defining. But, there's no need to diffuse by location of suicide. 2.a) my use of EGRS is to make it clear that these categories are very different. One is a historically marginalized group oppressed by the Nazis, and the other is well, Nazis. So I think this attempt to make a subject less heavy falls flat. For me personally, I find the conversation more heavy when marginalized communities are involved (regardless of whether I am a member of that community). 2.b) I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Mason ( talk) 01:27, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I write the length of text necessary to come as close as possible to adequately describing the concepts and ideas in my head. That is an impossible task, as language is much simpler than human thought, but I certainly don't write at length to attempt to create a "wall of text". (it really wasn't that long, and calling it a "wall of text" is a bit demeaning to the effort and thought I put into writing it, but anyway...)
I think the "heaviness" of a topic is a hindrance to objectively creating an encyclopedia, which, as a defining feature of [nearly all] encyclopedias, neutrality and objectivity should be at the absolute core. Why should the oppression or oppressor status of a group of people have anything to do with whether or not we document their suicides or other traits/actions? We should attempt to put aside our personal views or the views of society at large and use the pursuit of truth as a guide. I look to Socrates as a role model in this respect, although he did lose me quite a bit when he tried to justify his own execution.
But, if the heaviness of LGBT suicide cannot be overcome, then, as I already mentioned, what about replacing my use of the LGBT suicide category with the category " Category:Farmers who died by suicide" or " Category:Artists who died by suicide, with nearly the same arguments applied? For example, is it a trivial intersection if their suicide had nothing to do with being a farmer or nothing to do with being an artist? I assume the answer is "no"? So why would it be a trivial intersection in the case of Nazis?
To summarize: We should neutrally document reality. Many Nazis died by suicide. Not all Nazi suicides occurred while that person was in prison, thus the category "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is insufficient. I would be fine with removing this category of Nazi suicides in the United States if it is replaced by a new category called something like "Nazi suicides by country", which is surely of interest to researches of history, but, although it would make things a bit less convenient for some readers, a category simply called "Nazis who died by suicide" would be acceptable in my opinion. But, perhaps my most important point here: having only "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is absolutely not sufficient as not all Nazis who died by suicide committed their suicide in prison custody!
My proposal at this point: delete this category, but *ONLY* if it is replaced by a new category called something like "Category:Nazis who died by suicide by country" or simply "Category:Nazis who died by suicide", given that "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is insufficient on its own for the reasons I have given. *OTHERWISE* If it is not replaced after deletion, then my vote is simply "keep". Vontheri ( talk) 05:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
No one was disputing the need for a category for nazis who died by suicide. That category already exists. You were the one who brought LGBT suicides into the conversation, making the conversation much heavier than necessary.
In response to your question: "Why should the oppression or oppressor status of a group of people have anything to do with whether or not we document their suicides or other traits/actions?" You had asked me why I found the comparison troubling.
I would strongly encourage you to reconsider using LGBT people as your counter arguments to Nazis. That comparison comes with A LOT OF BAGGAGE, especially when your talking to people from the LGBT community. Mason ( talk) 00:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ LIFE. Time Inc. p. 32. ISSN  0024-3019. Retrieved 20 Mar 2024.
  2. ^ Goeschel, Christian (2006). "Suicide at the End of the Third Reich". Journal of Contemporary History. 41 (1). Sage Publications, Ltd.: 153–173. ISSN  0022-0094. JSTOR  30036375. Retrieved 20 Mar 2024.
  3. ^ Goeschel, Christian. "Suicide in Nazi Germany". academic.oup.com. Retrieved 20 Mar 2024.

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Relisting comment: What are people's thoughts on the most recent proposal to transform this into Category:Nazis who died by suicide (which could contain the articles in the current category, Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody, and any other Nazis who died by suicide)?
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Despite my seemingly clear memory of previously searching for it, somehow I hadn't even noticed that "Nazis who died by suicide" was already a category. I must be having some sort of Mandella effect moment going on here... So my proposal may have been slightly different had I been aware that the category already existed.
Regardless, If others support that proposal, I'm wondering what people suggest should happen with the subcategories " Category:Nazis who died by suicide in Germany" and " Category:Nazis who died by suicide in Austria‎", as well as the other subcategories listed in Category:Nazis who died by suicide? My view would be keep them as they are, and if consensus is against keeping Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States, then simply add those names to the category "Nazis who died by suicide" without adding to a subcategory, unless of course the individual also fits with another subcategory, such as "Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody".
(Also, not especially relevant to the current discussion, but how exactly are we defining "Nazi" for the purpose of these lists/categories? Is it limited only to people who were members of the German Nazi Party during during and/or prior to WW2, or are we including "Neo-Nazis"? What about former Nazis who renounced their Nazi beliefs but still later died by suicide? I certainly assume we are not including Fascists, which is so often erroneously used as a synonym for "Nazi". While they are both related and share many similarities, they are still distinct far-right political ideologies with defining differences.) Vontheri ( talk) 04:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Adding Neo-Nazis in this category tree would be weird because the whole point here is people escaping their trial or imprisonment for what they did in WWII. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:39, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I wasn't proposing to add neo-nazis, just creating an open question for of thinking for exactly how we should define "Nazi" for the sake of these categories.
The problem with having there only be the two lists, one "Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" and "Nazis who died by suicide in World War II" is that there are also Nazis who died from suicide who committed their suicide after (sometimes long after) WWII and also were not in prison custody when they committed suicide. They didn't all commit suicide for the reasons of escaping trial or imprisonment (or, at the time, execution). That was a common reason, but certainly not the only reason. Some were so deeply indoctrinated into the Nazi ideology that they saw no hope for a future life in a post-war world in which the Nazis lost the war. There was even a wave of suicide among German civilians after the war ended, as well, and they were certainly not people under threat of trial or imprisonment. (See the two references I gave earlier in the discussion written by Christian Goeschel for more information about this.) So having only those two categories would leave out some notable people, for just one example, see: Petras_Polekauskas#Death. Petras Polekauskas died by suicide but was neither in prison custody nor was his suicide during or even shortly after the war, but was just over 20 years after the war ended. Vontheri ( talk) 09:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Articles that would fall in neither of the two categories could still remain in Category:Nazis who died by suicide. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Oh sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were proposing to not have that category anymore "Category:Nazis who died by suicide" and to only have the two categories "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" and " Category:Nazis who died by suicide in World War II". I think I would be fine with something similar to what you are proposing; but I see a couple issues that would need to be sorted out first:
    First we would need to determine exactly when a start and end date for "World War II" would be. Are we defining WW2 as ending when Germany surrendered on May 8, 1945, or are we extending to when the entire war ended (ie. September 2, 1945, when Japan surrendered)? The latter definition isn't especially relevant to this context, as we are talking about Germans and not Japanese, and the former definition has the problem that the primary wave of suicides occurred during a period that overlapped with the date of May 8, 1945. Some of the relevant suicides were just before May 8th when defeat of Germany seemed inevitable, but others of the relevant suicides occurred after May 8th after defeat was official. For example, Heinrich Himmler died by suicide after May 8th. Vontheri ( talk) 01:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    So effectively, upmerge the category to Category:Nazis who died by suicide? I'm fine with that. Mason ( talk) 00:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Please forgive my ignorance, but I don't exactly understand what "upmerge" means in this context. Can you elaborate, please? Vontheri ( talk) 06:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    It means that the contents of this category would be added to the parent category (Category:Nazis who died by suicide), and then Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States would be deleted. Mason ( talk) 19:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Memorials to A. K. Fazlul Huq

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The result of the discussion was: delete. This one gave me a chuckle :) (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Most of these pages don't belong in this category. Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium is a stadium, not a monument or memorial. Purge the category, and if there are sufficient contents, then rename as proposed. Mason ( talk) 00:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support in principle per nom. The nomination is very carefully phrased, one may also simply say "delete per WP:SHAREDNAME". Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Lol, I forgot that existed Mason ( talk) 00:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia

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Category:Pre-1900 Pacific hurricane seasons

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Pacific hurricane seasons and Category:19th-century meteorology. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Pre-1900 isn't very helpful or clear. I'm very open for alternative same. Mason ( talk) 22:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tems

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient content for WP:EPONYMOUSCAT. – Fayenatic London 22:34, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the article and subcategories are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Janów Podlaski

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is a mixture of the Janów Podlaski farm and the village which bears the same name ( Janów Podlaski). Pretty much nothing in here is defined by the village OR the farm, and does not help with navigation Mason ( talk) 19:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment I created this when I was researching the area, just to save anyone else the trouble and also hopefully so that others would add further articles to the category. It didn't seem any different from other geographic categories, but I have no particular view on whether it stays or goes.-- Northernhenge ( talk) 21:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose deletion: Correcting nom, the category is not a mixture, though the article mentions both village and stud. There are no members of this category that are not related to the stud farm; they are all articles about horses born at the stud, or stallions breeding there, or related articles. I suggest renaming the category to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud, and putting it under Category:Horse farms. The Janów Podlaski Stud is well known, more so than the village. The stud is a Historic Monument of Poland. Search google scholar for "Janów Podlaski Stud" and you get hundreds of results. I'm not sure why no one has yet created a wiki article for the Janów Podlaski stud, but there's one in Polish-wiki, pl:Stadnina Koni Janów Podlaski.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 09:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC) Okay, okay, you twisted my arm... I'm working on translating the article here: Draft:Janów Podlaski Stud Farm.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep per I am Grorp. There is enough regional distinction in this area and enough articles to justify a category. Montanabw (talk) 15:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Though this might well need renaming, that is not the nomination. There are two oppositions to the nomination and no additional comments during one relist period, so I am unsure why you relisted it. If you want to rename it to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud, I'm sure no one would object.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 22:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud, or perhaps even better, to Category:Horses of Janów Podlaski Stud, per actual content of the category. It almost only contains articles about horses. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'd be fine with either rename. Mason ( talk) 22:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Not "Horses of", because I can conceive of placing other types of articles in that category.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC) Currently there are 2 towns, 1 man, a horse breed article, and another stud categorized there. Shortly will be the main article for the stud, Draft:Janów Podlaski Stud Farm, and the Polish wiki has 7 or so articles for men associated with this stud that might get translated to English wiki. So naming it "Horses of" would be wrong today, and wrong in the future.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 15:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Horse farms in Spain

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's not need to diffuse horse farms to this degree (as in every country gets a farm). Upmerge categories with one or two members Mason ( talk) 19:26, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Oppose: Note that most of the category members are nation-owned stud farms for breeds of horse originating in those countries, or are facilities of historical interest. These aren't just "farms". The word "splitting" made no sense to me because I checked each one of the articles, and all but maybe two are already in their second "farm" categories. As long as you change them from [Category:Horse farms in _______] to Category:Horse farms (so they are not lost), then I'm okay with the change.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 08:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC) Changing 'comment' to opposed' based on Montanabw's rationale as well as my own reading since I wrote the above.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 23:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose: The stud farms in these European nations are quite distinct entities from mere “farms.” The historic importance of these places was often linked to training animals for military purposes. It would be sort of like merging “military contractors” into “factories.” Montanabw (talk) 15:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Though someone named these categories "horse farms" in English Wikipedia, the correct term in English is "stud farm". Our word "farm" connotes agriculture related to food production. However, stud farms were the genetic source for transportation and other elite activities, never a food source, which puts them in an entirely different category to other types of "farming". I'm not sure how other [non-English] languages handle it and whether there is a common word like "farm" tying together two different types of concepts (food versus transport) or if there is a clear distinction in those languages, but a quick skip through google translation tells me they don't. (en:stud farm/farm, sp: ganadería/granja, fr:haras/ferme, de:Gestüt/Bauernhof, hu:ménesbirtok/Farm, pl:stadnina koni/gospodarstwo rolne)   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 18:14, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • According to Stud farm, they are for breeding rather than for transport. I'd say that still makes them a type of farm. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Facepalm Facepalm. For breeding (genetics), not raising as agricultural commodities. From Farm: with the primary objective of producing food and other crops; it is the basic facility in food production. The WP:WikiProject Transport editors would argue that horses were primarily "power"; transportation machines for riding, or pulling objects. Also, cats, dogs, tigers, and many other animal species are "bred" but not "farmed". "Breeding" is not identical to "farming", though farming livestock certainly involves breeding. I don't know why you are arguing this.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 23:04, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Reports of puppy farms (on Wikipedia as Puppy mill) use the term "farm" in a negative way, whereas the term dog breeder (can't quickly find an article other than Dog breeding) has more of a "stud" connotation. In the UK, I've never heard anyone say "horse farm" but if they did, I'd assume either they were being negative, so equivalent to puppy farm, or neutral about food production in countries where they eat horses. Regarding transport, there must have been a term used to describe mass production of horses when they were used in enormous numbers for transport, but I don't know what that term would have been. Farm might have made sense then. I agree that stud is a much better term than farm for specialist horse breeding as distinct from mass production. -- Northernhenge ( talk) 11:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Grorp Do you have an alternative target for merging? Mason ( talk) 18:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Smasongarrison: I don't see why it needs merging at all. Is there some policy requiring there to be 2 entries before you can create a category similar to other categories on the subject? For those of us who work in the "horse breed" topic, we know our breeds by their place of origin. If you remove each country category that only has 1 or 2 entries, and lump them all together under Category:Horse farms, then we would have to click on every single one of them to find, say, stud farms in Russia. I don't think removing any of these subcategories improves anything, and you will instead lose what I would consider valuable information. It's not like these stud farm articles are overcategorized. I don't think there's anything in WP:Categorization or WP:Overcategorization that says we can't have subcategories with a single entry in them. I consider the subcategorization by country valuable information. You may not be interested in horse breeds, history/origin of horse breeds, or breeding in various countries, but some people are and this is not fancruft... it's history. I went through every article and made sure they weren't categorized in both Farm and Horse farms (unless they were both).   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
So the purpose of categories is to help navigation. But I would like to know where you thing these categories should belogn. If these categories do not belong in farms, where should they be nested? @ Grorp Mason ( talk) 01:35, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I like how they are currently done. But maybe we're not not talking the same language? I understand H:CATS. There is nothing in WP:CFD that explains "splitting". WP:CI was zero help. And I read through WP:CAT. There just doesn't seem to be any explanation of "splitting".
My interpretation of your original suggestion was to remove/delete the [Category:Horse farms in countryX] if the category has only 1 entry, and recategorize its article with [Category:Horse farms] plus [Category:Farms in countryX]. If that's not what the proposal meant, then please explain "propose splitting". If I understood you correctly, then no... don't do it.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 04:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
1) The nomination is to "upmerge for now". There is a problem with how one of the tools works, that it labeling as spilt instead of merge.
2) I don't understand why you aren't answering my question. It seems like much of your argument is that Horse farms aren't farms. I am trying to understand where the category should be nested if does not belong in farms. Hence I have asked: "If these categories do not belong in farms, where should they be nested?" You saying that you like it as is, is not helpful. I am trying to understand your perspective on the category. This is a sperate issue than whether the category gets upmerged or not. If the current structure is wrong, then I would like to understand what is the problem. Mason ( talk) 01:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
(1) Well that's messed up; split and merge are opposites. But thanks for explaining that.
(2) Stud farm articles belong more to Category:Horse breeding and studs than they ever would to Category:Farms, but Category:Horse farms is already under both. And I'm not sure why it's important to not also have them under Category:Farms. Maybe the solution is with diffusing/nondiffusing subcategories (a concept which is still hard to wrap my head around but seems to be related to this issue), making Category:Horse breeding and studs the primary 'parent' category of Category:Horse farms, and Category:Farms one of those alternative 'parent' categories of Category:Horse farms.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 07:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep all no compelling reason in the nom. As the above discussion shows, the naming here is dubious. "Horse farm" is just not a thing in British English, and has no article. A search on the term shows many places that were "horse farms" in the US & elsewhere in the 19th century or before, when mass-breeding of working horse was a thing. Current places that are notable tend not to use "horse farm", even in the US, and can be divided into stud farms or racing stables, with some overlap. Probably our categories should be re-arranged this way. Johnbod ( talk) 14:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    My experience in this area is not significant, but my impression was that a horse farm usually (but not quite always, especially in terms of simple searches; see "one-horse farm") means a stud farm, and horse farming means that you have an ordinary old-fashioned farm with a horse to pull the plow (as contrasted with tractor farming). This is sufficiently confusing that I could wish for completely different names in these categories. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 22:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Why was this relisted? The nomination is based on "not needed" and there are two simple "agree per nom" votes, and four very strong "oppose the nom" votes with reasoning. Though there is some discussion that something could be done with the categories, there is still a clear consensus of opposition to the nomination. So why has this been relisted?   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 22:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Comment. There's not a "clear consensus of opposition". This is likely headed toward non-consensus. Mason ( talk) 22:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    The outcome is the same.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Warren Spector

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Video games designed by Warren Spector without prejudice against recreating Category:Warren Spector when more articles are available. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: More useful than an eponymous category. If the new name is agreed, only Warren Spector should be removed, but he and the category should remain linked. – Fayenatic London 21:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Both categories could be useful. For example there is Category:Hideo Kojima and multiple sub-categories for video games and other article types. Category:Video games designed by Hideo Kojima is a sub-category with game pages. So we could use both for Warren Spector too. -22:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC) Artanisen ( talk) 22:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename, apart from the eponymous article all content is about video games. No objection to restoring this category after a few more articles not about video games are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Crusader video games

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only 2 games so not really a franchise. Both articles are interlinked and in plenty of other categories already. – Fayenatic London 21:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 00:06, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Upscale areas of Dhaka

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. May be suitable for a list if it can be supported with citations from WP:RS. – Fayenatic London 21:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Super Bowl halftime show sponsors

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not WP:DEFINING. – Fayenatic London 21:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Thank you for nominating this. I got busy IRL and was going to come back to do this one, too. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 22:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as a non-defining category. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Super Bowl halftime show performers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. WP:PERFCAT is a very strong argument, giving those in favor of deletion the numbers as well as the strength of arguments. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Is this a defining quality of these acts? Overcategorization per WP:PERFCAT. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 20:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. We put readers first over editors in Wikipedia. This is not overcategorization. They list the performers who performed in the Super Bowl Halftime Show. Abhiramakella ( talk) 22:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
"We put readers first over editors in Wikipedia. " I don't understand what you mean by this. Mason ( talk) 22:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:People from Ghardaïa

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:30, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. only one person in this category, which is unhelpful from navigation Mason ( talk) 05:53, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • There are still only three biographies in the category and none in the parent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Drum Corps Associates corps

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Category:American expatriate male actors in England

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The result of the discussion was: merge. No convincing argument that these are defining (etc). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: New category, intersection of where someone is from and where they live and what they do and what their gender is. WP:NONDEF or WP:NARROWCAT or at least some form of WP:OVERCAT? I just realized there are others like these, I may go searching for them and add them later, or others are welcome to. Largoplazo ( talk) 11:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Are they really "largeish"? EGRS's examples are categories that would have over a thousand entries if unsplit, not a mere hundred or so. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 06:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:American female winemakers

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The result of the discussion was: keep. I am convinced by the arguments in opposition, who provided evidence that being a female winemaker is a defining characteristic. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. I don't think this meets the criteria under EGRS at the intersection of gender, occupation, and nationality. I've already added everyone to an American women category. Mason ( talk) 04:55, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, trivial intersection between occupation and gender. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Hardly "trivial" here. It's not even as if there's a global Category:Female winemakers to merge into. Johnbod ( talk) 15:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Johnbod How is it defining, under EGRS? Mason ( talk) 18:34, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    What is this EGRS you keep talking about? Would renaming to Category:Female winemakers help with the bureaucracy? It seems to me we ought to have such a category. Johnbod ( talk) 18:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Probably Wikipedia:Categorizing articles about people, which says: “As another example, a female heads of government category is valid as a topic of special encyclopedic interest, though it does not need to be balanced directly against a "Male heads of government" category, as historically the vast majority of political leaders have been male.” So if historically the vast majority of winemakers have been male, there is an argument in favour of keeping this category. It should be a member of Category:Female winemakers though, and then – for example – we’d need Category:German female winemakers etc etc. There are presumably too many of them to put everyone into a single category. -- Northernhenge ( talk) 20:21, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Not, it seems, with articles on Wikipedia. A global Category:Female winemakers would, probably should, be set up, to keep the gender aspect alive. It would (see below) not be enormous. Johnbod ( talk) 01:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Northernhenge has found the gender specific example. But more broadly, @ Johnbod, Wikipedia:EGRS requires that the intersection be defining. In other words, "where that combination is itself recognized as a defining topic that has already been established in sources as academically or culturally significant in its own right." So there has to be evidence/sources to support the argument that the intersection between being female and being a winemaker is defining. Mason ( talk) 20:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    The paucity of articles in the other national winemaker cats is very strong evidence for this: only 2-3 in Italy (including Countess Cinzano, who inherited), amazingly only one in the 68 Australians, and she married an owner. The 67 French are similar - a couple of inheritances, & only Christine Barbe, whose career has all been in California. The only Spanish female is "María Isabel Mijares García-Pelayo (1942 – 10 February 2024) was a Spanish oenologist. She was considered the first woman in the profession and the first woman to run a winery in Spain. [1] It would be nice if we could disentangle "vineyard owners" from "winemakers" who know one end of a syphon pipe from the other, but I don't suppose we can. Johnbod ( talk) 01:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep as defining, a Google books search for female winemakers finds four books that look like reliable sources, all from 2000 or later.
  • Crushed by Women: Women and Wine (Jeni Port, 2000)
  • Women of Wine: The Rise of Women in the Global Wine Industry (Ann B. Matasar, 2006)
  • Women Winemakers: Personal Odysseys (Lucia Albino Gilbert, ‎John C. Gilbert, 2020)
  • Women of the Vine: Inside the World of Women Who Make, Taste, and Enjoy Wine (Deborah Brenner, 2007) TSventon ( talk) 03:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
And do those sources refer specifically to American women?
The conundrum here is that, per Johnbod, we don't actually have a generic "female winemakers" category, and we need to establish whether that is an oversight first. Because it's difficult to establish that being a woman in the winemaking industry is a particularly notable thing in the United States relative to the wider world. And even then, the reason that we don't have a blanket "women in occupation X" exception is because the main reason for most of those categories to be small is the historical tendency for society to discourage women from running businesses, which is more a society thing than a women thing. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 06:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Not really; once we have "a generic "female winemakers" category", as we now do, whether a diffusion to a US national category is viable is simply a matter of numbers. No special sources for US examples are needed, though it is utterly unsurprising that WhatamIdoing has very kindly been able to find some (see below). And no doubt US women figure largely in the non-specific books TSventon found above, for which also thanks. I think our work here is done. Johnbod ( talk) 04:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree that the main issue is whether there should be a generic "female winemakers" category, so I have created Category:Women winemakers. American women winemakers are likely to be most numerous as the US has the largest wine industry in an English speaking country and there are a lot of American editors on en Wikipedia. TSventon ( talk) 14:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks! It is easy to see they are the most numerous, & at present no other national sub-cats seem likely to survive the Cfd Eye of Mordor. Johnbod ( talk) 23:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, at least for now. There are books like Wine Country Women of Napa Valley (ISBN 978-1944903183) and journal articles like doi: 10.1111/1468-0424 "Donne in the Vineyards: Italian‐American Women in the California Wine Industry" that are exclusively about women making wine in the US. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 03:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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References

  1. ^ Lázaro, Agapito Ojosnegros (11 February 2024). "Fallece a los 81 años Isabel Mijares, enóloga pionera y exponente del sector del vino". El Norte de Castilla (in Spanish). Retrieved 11 February 2024.
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Category:Napoleonic looting of art

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Assassinated Burundian monarchs

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Burundian kings and Category:Assassinated Burundian people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one monard in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 20:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Did you check PetScan to see if there are more? Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 22:06, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I did not check petscan in this case. But I did look through all the assassinated Burundian people to see if there were any other monarchs I had missed. Mason ( talk) 01:28, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. Traditionally some "by nationality" categories only have one entry. This is because the full by nationality tree is intended to contain all nationalities intersecting with the topic. I think leaving out categories from the parent Category:Assassinated monarchs by nationality only because they have one or few entries provides for incomplete information regarding the topic of assassinated monarchs.
The intention is to build it up collaboratively in time to include all nations where at least one monarch was assassinated. I do think that having a separate category with only one or few entries in a parent category "by nationality" aids in navigation because the reader can simply browse through the nationality category looking for relevant assassinated monarchs. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 00:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge, also because it is odd to ghettoize monarchs of a nationality in an assassinated subcategory and separate them from non-assassinated monarchs. This is more something for lists. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Honestly, it makes me think we should mark assassinated categories as non-diffusing so that assassinated folks aren't ghettoized. Mason ( talk) 01:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I don't agree with this drive to limit diffusion of categories so much. There are niche interests of readers for a variety of reasons. From specialized researchers to specific interests or intellectual needs. Although I understand NotEverything, I also understand that diffusing assassinated monarchs by nationality is reasonable because assassination of monarchs is of historical interest and the assassination of monarchs in their nations is something notable in its own. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 00:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Thinker78 What do you think about marking the assassination categories as non-diffusing for monarchs of that nationality? Mason ( talk) 00:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Example? Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 02:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I don't understand your request for an example, but I will try my best.@ Thinker78 For example, Assassinated Burundian monarchs is a diffusing category of Burundian monarchs, which means that if a Burundian monarch is assassinated they are removed from Burundian monarchs category and placed in the Assassinated Burundian monarchs category. However, because there is only one assassinated Burundian monarch, that means that monarch is isolated from the rest of the monarchs. And it makes them hidden away from people interested in Burundian monarchs, regardless of their cause of death. If the category were not diffusing, then the assassinated Burundian monarch would also be in the Burundian monarch category, making it easier to find Burundian monarchs, but also allowing people who are interested in assassinations to find that information. Mason ( talk) 19:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I understand your concern. The solution would be listing the monarch in both the "Burundian monarchs" and the "Assassinated burundian monarchs" categories. I point out that your concern is something I have often thought about when placing a page in a subcategory, removing it from a parent category. That's why I initially left pages in both a parent category and a subcategory and I still have mixed feelings about the situation.
    According to WP:PARENTCAT,

    articles should rarely be placed in both a given category and any of its sub- or parent (super-) categories.

    I guess this case could fit under "rarely", given your concerns. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:21st-century European male musicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: We don't need to diffuse male musicians by continent Mason ( talk) 20:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Anti-Zionism by former country

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Category:Words and phrases by language

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Category:Vandalism on Wikipedia

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Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina jujutsuka

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. SMALLCAT has been deprecated, and thus the opposition was rebutted fully. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
adding to bundle per (@ Marcocapelle:) Mason ( talk) 00:20, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 13:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge, per nom. Many sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support all as many siblings have now been added to the nomination. Thank you Mason! Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Dyne Foundation

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Even if this is an organization Dyne Foundation, there's no need to add software to the category. Mason ( talk) 13:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi @ Smasongarrison - I see your nomination, but I am not sure why deletion? Do you think there should be between Category:Dyne Foundation > Dyne Foundation software >...actual individual software pages like it is with Category:Google for example...I am not sure that applies better then category Category:Blender Foundation (also Dutch also FLOSS). Curious to hear your arguments and recommendations! Have a good Easter weekend :-) Zblace ( talk) 06:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I proposed deletion rather than merging or renaming because I think this category doesn't meet the criteria for WP:defining. A good rule of thumb is whether the category name would be used in the lead of the article (by a random editor, not merely the category creator). Consider Devuan's lead, (and ignoring the fact that the Dyne Foundation isn't mentioned anywhere in the text).

Devuan is a fork of the Debian Linux distribution that uses sysvinit, runit or OpenRC instead of systemd.[3][4][5][6] Devuan aims to avoid "lock-in" by projects like systemd[7][8] and aims to maintain compatibility with other init systems to avoid detaching Linux from other Unix systems.

I can't envision a plausible scenario in which the Dyne Foundation would be mentioned in the lead. "The fork is maintained by the Dyne Foundation." But I don't see how that would be relevant, nor am I sure that that statement is true. If the Dyne Foundation had brand recognitation, maybe... but even that would be hard to fit it. It doesn't seem relevant to the lead. Mason ( talk) 19:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Camping World

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient content for eponymous category, containing only one company and an example of its sponsorship. – Fayenatic London 13:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Honored Science and Technology Figure of Ukraine

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable award category. Merited Science and Technology Functionary of Ukraine, piped as "Honored Science and Technology Functionary of Ukraine", is one of many redlinked entries listed at Honorary_titles_of_Ukraine#Merited_titles. – Fayenatic London 12:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Portland Duffs

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per NARROWCAT. User:Namiba 12:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Webtoon webcomic stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete both. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:58, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete template and category, both unused. – Fayenatic London 12:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:TV3 (Norway)

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:58, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Moved article per WP:NCBC without RM so can't speedy. Category should move for the same reason. Gonnym ( talk) 11:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province activities

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Category:People convicted of attempted voluntary manslaughter

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American people convicted of manslaughter. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one person in this category, upmerge for now. Mason ( talk) 02:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Danish pharmacists

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:21st-century pharmacists. No prejudice against further nominations of the pharmacists-by-century category tree. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one person in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 01:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Why are pharmacists sorted by century at all? I'm inclined to suggest deleting entirely.-- User:Namiba 00:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is a good question but deletion would require a broader discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paleontology portal

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Category:Murdered CIA agents

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Assassinated CIA agents. No consensus to change "agents" to "officers". (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: More accurate. Agents refers to someone recruited to spy, rather than an agent handler referred to as a case officer. This category includes agent handlers who were employees of CIA, rather than people the CIA recruited to spy on their behalf. Longhornsg ( talk) 00:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Alt rename and re-parent to "Assassinated" instead of "Murdered" and purge articles about more casual murders. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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I like the alternative per marco. Mason ( talk) 01:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American theatre people by populated place

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 00:48, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think that we should repurpose this category to contain all of the theater people form Cleveland rather than delete it. Mason ( talk) 22:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Dramatists and playwrights from Cleveland

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The result of the discussion was: split and merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 00:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no need to diffuse American dramatists and playwrights by city. Notably this is the _only_ city category. Mason ( talk) 22:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Acquitted evangelical leaders

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A trivial intersection. User:Namiba 19:44, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages used in recruitment of Central Armed Police Forces of India

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is all kind of language trivia and this is content that is better covered in the relevant articles and in Category:Official languages of India. PepperBeast (talk) 19:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Combined authorities

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Combined authorities and combined county authorities. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The article Combined authorities and combined county authorities has been amended to include combined county authorities as they are similar to combined authorities. Other articles have been amended to reflect this change. The category should reflect this in the same manner, as it currently includes pages linked to it which are CCAs but appear in this category as CAs. TheBishopAndHolyPrince ( talk) 13:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Ok, but add "in England" (or is it UK?) for clarity. Johnbod ( talk) 14:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The main article does not include "in England". The template Template:Combined authorities and combined county authorities does not either. I would therefore propose to leave out "in England" so that it matches with the template, the article and the other text on the category page. 15:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC) TheBishopAndHolyPrince ( talk) 15:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Categories often need clearer names than articles, as here. Johnbod ( talk) 04:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Probably better the other way round as the article is confusing attempting to cover 2 separate things, the article needs splitting not the categories merging. Keith D ( talk) 22:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I don't think it ne_eds to affect this discussion but the nominator has been indefinitely blocked so don't expect any response to questions. Liz Read! Talk! 04:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, I didn't think he'd last. Johnbod ( talk) 04:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Rename to match the main article. I don't see why "in England" is necessary. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Follow article, in this case rename category as nominated. If the article is split, per User:Keith D, then by all means follow that too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Use England as this will collect various authorities that have been variously combined -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 05:12, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Culture by city in China

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category excludes all cities in Taiwan, which has a separate category: Category:Culture by city in Taiwan. Therefore, it's not all of 'China', but the PRC specifically. It should therefore also be re-parented from Category:Chinese culture to Category:People's Republic of China culture (now nommed for speedy renaming to Category:Culture of the People's Republic of China per C2D main article Culture of the People's Republic of China). Compare how the parent of Category:Culture by city in Taiwan is Category:Culture of Taiwan, not Category:Chinese culture. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment: Those who voted for the China–PRC merger never bothered to figure out what to do with topics as such. Topics associated with culture of the PRC, e.g., should certainly be fed to a category similarly named but such scenarios have simply been ignored. 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 07:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
There are topical subcategories for the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Serbia and Montenegro, the United Provinces of the Netherlands (the Dutch Republic), the Orange Free State, the Transvaal Republic, the United Province of Canada, the Kingdom of Great Britain, the Confederate State of America, Pakistan, the United Kingdom, the United Arab Emirates, and so on and so forth. Why can't there be subcategories for the PRC? 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 16:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • What about Indian foo and Foo of the Republic of India, for instance? The former may according to contexts covers Pakistan and/or Bangladesh and that the latter is a subset of the former. 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 08:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • From when on would it be right to equate the Soviet Union with Russia, or Malaya with Malaysia, or England or Great Britain with the United Kingdom, for the purpose of categorisation on Wikipedia? 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 08:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Roman villas in Germany

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one villa in here, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 03:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep: Seems useful in connection with Category:Roman villas by country.-- Ipigott ( talk) 06:27, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep as part of a wider scheme Category:Roman villas by country. Plus others may well be added over time. Johnbod ( talk) 14:32, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The category can be recreated when there are more pages to add. I really tried to find anything that could be added, and turned up nothing. Mason ( talk) 16:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:11th-century Indian medical doctors

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Personifications in mythology and religion‎

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something that it does not differentiate them at all. Put it more precisely, it is not defining that they are the personification of something, it is only defining what they personify, and Category:Deities by association suffices for the latter purpose. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support, if only because most if not all polytheistic deities are personifications of various concepts, and I agree that Category:Deities by association serves that purpose better. AHI-3000 ( talk) 22:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, these well-populated categories, per nom that "it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something" seems to be a fact and observation in favor of keeping the pages instead of a negative blow to their existence. Personifications are a "thing", not an abstract thought or whim. Randy Kryn ( talk) 11:04, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: those categories are sufficiently and clearly defined within their contexts in mythology and folklore, since all of them were/are considered to be inseparable from the things they personify. Personifications have been a thing since a very long time, and are easily recognised and differentiated. Moreover, all those categories have enough pages that merging them would do the opposite of cleaning up. Deiadameian ( talk) 10:11, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: The issue may be the misunderstanding and misuse of the category. Most deities in Greek and Roman myths are not personifications; they embody or possess certain powers (and "associations"), but they are both cultivated as deities and treated as superhuman figures who play roles in narratives (myths). Personifications, however, are properly single-focus divinities such as Virtus or Fides (deity) who embody abstractions such as virtues or ideas; these are not actually "mythological" figures because they have no myths (no stories). They have temples, for example, or serve as icons, as on coins. In that sense they are part of Roman religion, not Roman mythology. I don't know what the nominator means in the phrase "something that it does not differentiate them at all." Medieval personification is also not the same as ancient, since personifications are allegorical or mystical aspects within a monotheistic tradition; they are not deities but are part of what we might neutrally call Christian mythology in a technical sense of narratives that explore universal truths. "Lady Liberty," by contrast, is an example of a secular (or secularized) personification. Cynwolfe ( talk) 14:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This would very strongly reduce the content of these categories. It is (in quantitative sense) much closer to delete than to keep. I just wonder if it would be maintainable like that. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tamil clans

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Social groups of Tamil Nadu. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: New category outside existing hierarchies, with only one member page. Category:Clans includes Gurjar clans, Rajput clans and Vellalar clans, but I believe those are the only other categories for "clans" within Category:Social groups of India. – Fayenatic London 17:38, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Funerals in Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer now that all contents are in a "State funerals" subcat. – Fayenatic London 16:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Latter Day Saint Style Guide Rename

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The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against a fresh nomination with analysis of what terms reliable sources use. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: According to the official style guide for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, When a shortened reference is needed, the terms “the Church” or the “Church of Jesus Christ” are encouraged. The “restored Church of Jesus Christ” is also accurate and encouraged. DarthTanner421 ( talk) 16:34, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This is not a convincing argument. You need to make a case that reliable sources commonly use the expression "The Church of Jesus Christ". Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I second Marco on this. Unless you can demonstrate that this is standard practice or in numerous non-affiliated credible style guides, I oppose this rename. Mason ( talk) 23:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Rob Gronkowski

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only Super Bowl LIII and Super Bowl LV, insufficient content for WP:EPONCAT. – Fayenatic London 16:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Private space missions

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:03, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect. Space mission redirects to Spaceflight#Terminology. – Fayenatic London 15:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now as it is a very small category. Hypothetically this could become a set category while Category:Private spaceflight would serve as a topic category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep it is merely not being populated. All the missions currently in Category:New Shepard missions would qualify for this category (though not necessarily all of them in the future, if a government charters a spaceflight); as would most of the missions in Category:SpaceShipTwo except the one chartered by the Italian Space Agency and the ones that did not reach space; as would all the missions in Category:Axiom Space; and all the space missions in Category:SpaceShipOne not including the ones that did not reach space. There's also the Russian movie filmed on the ISS, which would be its own space mission, in addition to riding with people on other missions. -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 21:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Translators from Quebec

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Category:Alumni of Diocesan Girls' School

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The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against a nomination of the entire tree. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:52, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Typo. Diocesan Girls' School is a girls' school and the word "alumnae" should be used instead. Prince of Erebor（ The Book of Mazarbul） 10:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose. We don't use the female version for alumni for categories. Mason ( talk) 23:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

My impression is that all the names follow the convention for co-ed schools. Mason ( talk) 23:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:LGBT people by identity

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Category:Russian comedians by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:13, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one city in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 01:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nightclubs in Brussels

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:35, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge for now as it currently has only one member article. – Fayenatic London 22:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Identical twin male child actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. No need to diffuse by gender. The novelty is in the intersection of twinness and age, not their gender. Mason ( talk) 21:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Identical twin child actors by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Only one nationality in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 21:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Identical twin politicians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between sibling status and occupation. Mason ( talk) 21:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Saint Anthony the Great abbeys

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Category:International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Semiconductor technology. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category:International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors currently contains one other article ( International Roadmap for Devices and Systems is called a successor to the eponymous article's topic) besides the eponymous article. Although WP:OCEPON is imprecise, this category doesn't currently have "enough directly-related articles" within it that indicate the category was justified in its creation. Pngdeity ( talk) 18:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ministers of Ilunga Government

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I looked through Category:National cabinets, and we don't seem to categorise ministers by cabinet membership. I think it would be akin to WP:PERFCAT. – Fayenatic London 18:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, if we would adopt and expand this concept (hypthetically) it would lead to overcategorization of politicians articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:19, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Mexican-born author

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete, non-standard category. The member page is now in Category:Writers from Mexico City. – Fayenatic London 17:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 21:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Members of the Confederation of Tribal Associations of Katanga

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge new category per article name CONAKAT. Both member pages are biographies of people who were politicians. – Fayenatic London 17:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Swiss evangelicals

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:16, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, "evangelical" has a very specific meaning in American Christianity which does not apply to these Swiss people. See also Evangelical (disambiguation). Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:46, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The supposedly "very specific meaning in American Christianity" is exactly the same in most European Protestant countries and their languages, as Evangelicalism is at pains to stress. Looking at the contents of the cat, all Calvinist church people, it does seem to apply fine. Why do you think it does not? Johnbod ( talk) 14:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Evangelicalism is typified by a personal born-again experience and the term wasn't used this way before the 18th century. It is not equivalent to Calvinism, and Calvinists in mainland Europe are hardly ever calling themselves Evangelical. Lutherans in mainland Europe do call themselves Evangelical, but still not with the same connotation as in the Anglo-American tradition. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Unconvinced - the English term born again may be relatively recent, but the concept is not - see also Evangelicalism again. Historically, the vast majority of Swiss Protestants are Calvinists (the Lutherans having been agressively chased off the patch very early on). We certainly shouldn't be treating "Evangelicals" as an exclusively English-speaking group; even for here that would be outrageous. Johnbod ( talk) 19:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It does not have to be exclusively English-speaking as I suppose there are a lot of evangelical converts around the world due to the work of American (and possibly British) evangelical missionaries. But that has nothing to do with the Swiss people in this category. Again, Evangelicalism isn't synonymous to Calvinism and mainland European Calvinists do not identify as Evangelicals. The closest to Evangelicalism we had in mainland Europe is Pietism. I agree that the word Evangelical is older than the 18th century, that is exactly why it is in the name of most Lutheran churches, but that has no relationship with the meaning of the word nowadays. The article Evangelicalism describes how the meaning of the word has evolved. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:31, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:French Baroque viol players

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between style, nationality, and specific kind of designer. Mason ( talk) 01:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose re French Baroque viol players. These musicians constitute a distinct sub-genre of music and the reader who starts with e.g. Marin Marais would like to easily find other persons who belong to the same school. If Wikipedia would allow to easily search for people who belong to categories Baroque musicians AND viol players AND French musicians it might be redundant, but that's not the case, right? even if it was possible, this category is much more accessible. Meizy ( talk) 08:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Stong Oppose both, and please don't mix different noms this way! What we should do is delete the ridiculous Category:French Baroque people, and the Italian and Spanish equivalents - oh, I see you just set these up today - bad idea. We could rename along the lines of the main article, French formal garden, but French Baroque garden style dominated Europe for over a century, & is highly defining. Unsurprisingly, all of the French viol players except for two contemporary Early Music players, are in the Baroque sub-cat, and it is useful to keep them separate. This was another speciality of the French Baroque period, which effectively ended with it. Gardeners are not normally treated as "artists", and I don't think we should start now. I can't for the life of me see why it is ok to have Category:French Baroque painters (which it is), but not ok to have Category:French Baroque garden designers - please explain your thinking here. Johnbod ( talk) 03:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Johnbod First, I didn't see this as different noms, hence the bundling. 2nd, I only made the French Baroque one to match the rest that already existed. 3rd, neither of these French FOOian categories had non-nationality specific categories. There is no Baroque garden designers or Category:Baroque viol players. An alternative would be to create/broaden these into parent categories, which I would be fine with if there's sufficient content. Mason ( talk) 14:12, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Or better yet, do nothing at all! You haven't answered my question on the grounds of the nom. One could easily set up Baroque garden designers and Category:Baroque viol players, but I think the first would only have a French sub-category, plus a handful of English and other names. The whole Category:Baroque people tree should be deleted, or at least renamed to something like Category:People in the arts during the Baroque period, which is what it is trying to be. Nobody ever uses this term, and we don't have any similar categories - Category:Gothic people (ok - for Goths), Category:Mannerist people, Category:Neoclassical people, Category:Romantic people, Category:Impressionist people. Johnbod ( talk) 14:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    What do you mean? "you haven't answered my question on the grounds of the nom." You asked me to explain my thinking; I did explain my thinking see 1,2,3. Furthermore: the nomination says non-defining intersection. So I don't know what "grounds" you're asking for. But I did answer the question you asked. Mason ( talk) 21:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Polish painters of Jewish descent

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Jewish Polish artists with no prejudice against speedy renomination for a merge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category to be able the broader vocation of Jewish Polish artists (instead of being a specific kind of artist). If not broadened, the category should be renamed to Jewish Polish painters. Mason ( talk) 05:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Massacres of men

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, the main article of the category is Androcide but the articles in the category aren't related to Androcide. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:52, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 12:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose, that's a really weird nonsensical reason to just suddenly delete a well-populated category with 141 pages. Besides we also have Category:Massacres of women. AHI-3000 ( talk) 20:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per nom. [T]he articles in the category aren't related to Androcide is an excellent reason to delete a category, no matter how populated it is. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:24, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Boxing matches in Las Vegas

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Category:Fictional coffeehouses and cafés

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The result of the discussion was: purge and merge to Category:Fictional restaurants. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There is only one article that belongs in this category, Monk's Café. The rest are either redirects or not actually about the fictional restaurants themselves. Easily contained within Category:Fictional restaurants. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 16:53, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Purge and merge, quite a few articles are about works about coffeehouses which is something else. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Panamanian men

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have one category in here. Sole category member already in FOOian-century Panamanian singers‎ Mason ( talk) 16:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:14th-century Chinese male actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge as suggested by Marcocapelle. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think we should repurpose this category to include actresses/male actors of any nationality. Right now there's only one or two people in each, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 18:43, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Is the 13th-century Jurchen empire considered part of China and the peoples considered Chinese? 61.244.93.97 ( talk) 06:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Not really, but which of these actors were active in the Jurchen empire? Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Montreal Metro artists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. If someone wants to make a list, the contents are Frédéric Back, Jordi Bonet, Charles Daudelin, Jean Dumontier, Marcelle Ferron, Pierre Granche, Hector Guimard, Julien Hébert, Raoul Hunter, Jean-Paul Mousseau, Osterrath, Yves Trudeau (artist), and Claude Vermette. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A non-defining characteristic. User:Namiba 23:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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All of the artists who are from Quebec and/or Montreal are now appropriately categorized. Several artists are not from Quebec.-- User:Namiba 17:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as non-defining. No objection to a list if someone wants to create one. - Eureka Lott 18:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Expressways in Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China

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Category:Julian Edelman

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only contains the lead article and Super Bowl LIII, insufficient for an eponymous category. ( WP:EPONYMOUS) – Fayenatic London 08:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Andorran people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:21st-century Andorran people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one category in here, should be broadened to not be limited to occupation Mason ( talk) 05:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Inactive anime conventions

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Canadian LGBT people by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:People from FOOian province and a relevant Category:Canadian LGBT people child category (as suggested by Mason). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Although these were previously deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 February 27#Category:LGBT people from Canada by province or territory, that was a full decade ago, and thus I don't feel comfortable just speedying them without a new discussion.
This is, however, still a violation of WP:OCLOCATION -- there is no defining relationship between one's province of birth and their LGBT identity per se, but the parent category (which is already well-diffused on other criteria) doesn't need this for size control purposes either.
As always, just because the United States does something does not automatically mean Canada has to match it: the US is almost ten times larger than Canada by population, and thus has at least ten times as many articles to worry about, so the existence of an "X by state" scheme does not mean Canada automatically has to imitate it with an "X by province" replication. Many of the people so categorized, further, do not possess notability claims that are all that closely tied to their province of origin: Jann Arden and k.d. lang and Tegan and Sara are not notable as Albertans per se, they're notable as national or international pop stars whose birthplaces have almost nothing to do with their grounds for notability; Betty Baxter attained her notability in British Columbia, not in Alberta; Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman is notable as a Hollywood actor, not as an Alberta actor; and on and so forth.
These, further, were created by an editor who has a history of being a serial overcategorizer who's had a lot of things taken to CFD, and does not have any established record of being any sort of expert in what categories Canada does or doesn't need.
These just don't pass the tests that would justify this scheme: the intersection of these people's province of birth with their LGBTness isn't defining in and of itself, but the parent category is already so well-diffused that it doesn't need this for size control either. Bearcat ( talk) 02:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support in principle. But, because non of the categories are tagged with non-diffusion, we'll need to ensure that these people are in the relevant parents. Thus they should be selectively merged into Category:People from FOOian province and a relevant Category:Canadian LGBT people child category. Mason ( talk) 03:13, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
No problem with it as such, but I'm not entirely clear on what merging is particularly needed. Everything here would or should already be in appropriate LGBT and/or geographic categories anyway, so I don't really know what would be missing in most cases, though obviously people should be added to anything that is genuinely missing. Bearcat ( talk) 17:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Concur with Bearcat, there isn't really anything to merge to. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:ISIS-K terrorist incidents in Afghanistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:ISIL terrorist incidents in Afghanistan and Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. No need to have a category with a single event. Mason ( talk) 01:28, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment It's not just this category. There are parent categories that just hold this category. Kind of like a house of cards. Liz Read! Talk! 03:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Attacks on public buildings in 2024

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: duplicate category Mason ( talk) 01:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Emigrants from British North America to the United States

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Emigrants from the British Empire to the United States. The opposition was squarely rebutted by Bearcat, giving those in support of a merge the numbers as well as the strength of arguments. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary level of intermediary categorization between a category and its natural parent. As I've noted more than once in other past CFD discussions, "British North America" was never a polity in its own right -- it was just a collective geographic term for all of Britain's colonies in North America, but each of those colonies was its own standalone thing and there was never any overarching entity called "British North America" that they were all subordinate parts of. That is, it was not like "England + Scotland + Wales + Northern Ireland = United Kingdom" or "Massachusetts + New York + New Jersey + California + Wyoming + 45 other US states = United States", it was always like "Thailand + Vietnam + Laos + Cambodia + Burma = Indochina" or "Jamaica + Haiti + Montserrat + St. Kitts + the Bahamas + Puerto Rico + Cuba = Caribbean". An umbrella term for multiple separate things in a region, not a "parent" term for subordinate parts of a unified thing.
There is exactly no point in history at which it was ever incorrect in any way to refer to a resident of Toronto or Montreal as "Canadian", or correct in any way to refer to them as "British North American" instead, because that simply isn't how those terms worked: Canada, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Jamaica, et al were always each their own things, and "British North America" was just an umbrella term, and was never the nationality of any Canadian, New Brunswicker, Nova Scotian, Newfoundlander or Jamaican in any sense.
Of about 80 people in here when I found it, every last manjack one was directly recattable as Category:Pre-Confederation Canadian emigrants to the United States or one of its subcategories -- so that category can just directly stand as its own direct subcategory of the merge target, without needing this as an intermediary, because "British North America" never existed as an intermediary thing between "pre-Confederation Canada" and "British Empire". Bearcat ( talk) 01:17, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom, and the dozens of CFDs that have been surrounding this point. Mason ( talk) 01:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale is not wrong, and nominator is incidentally highly knowledgeable on the subject of Canadian history. Upper Canada, Lower Canada and the united Province of Canada each had their own legislative assemblies, New Brunswick had its own legislative assembly, Nova Scotia had its own legislative assembly, Newfoundland had its own legislative assembly, and on and so forth — but never was there ever any such thing as the "Legislative Assembly of British North America" at all. Each colony had its own direct one-on-one relationship with the motherland, and there was never any overarching "British North America" layer of government between them. Bearcat ( talk) 19:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • For the record, I would not object to renaming the subcategory to British North America, but that would require a different discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Bank bombings in Afghanistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, this is an extremely narrow cat. Only one event is in this entire tree. So I'm proposing deleting the parent cats at the same time. Mason ( talk) 01:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The same category creator created 15 separate categories for one article on a military documentary film. And I could never track down what article that was because the categories were all empty except for containing other empty child categories. They are now all CSD C1'd. Liz Read! Talk! 03:17, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Attacks on civilians during the Israel–Hamas war

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. Vaguely defined. This category has considerable overlap with Category:Civilians killed in the Israel–Hamas war Mason ( talk) 01:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, we do not have any other "attacks on civilians" categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Former Ikawa Line Stations

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be a different spelling of Category:Stations of Ōigawa Railway. No other sub-cats of Category:Railway stations in Japan by company have "former" sub-cats except for the special case of Category:Kabe Line suspended stations. – Fayenatic London 21:14, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Post–World War II synagogue architecture

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, overlaps with Category:Synagogues by year of completion. In contrast to what the parent category suggests, the content is not about a particular architecturale style. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 21:11, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Puerto Rican luthiers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American luthiers. Marcocapelle's argument allows us to sidestep the question of what Puerto Rico counts as in terms of being American. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category. (The person is already in Puerto Rican music educators, so only one target is needed) Mason ( talk) 21:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Civil servants from Winnipeg

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category for an overly narrow intersection of characteristics. There's no defining relationship between civil service and being from Winnipeg per se, so the only basis for this would be if the parent category needed diffusion on size grounds -- but with only three people here and only four in the parent, that hasn't been established. (Upmerging to Category:People from Winnipeg not needed, as all three people here are already in other subcategories of that as it is.) Bearcat ( talk) 20:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion

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Category:Asian American music

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American musicians of Asian descent. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Other than Asian Americans in music, all the articles here are people. Current title could infer types of music specifically made by Asian Americans, and I'm not sure any such genre exists. Couldn't really think of anything else that would go in here other than more people. Adding the hyphen as C2C with the rest of Category:Asian-American culture. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 20:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment. The category already exists, and is called. Category:American musicians of Asian descent. Also if the category isn't merged, then it should be renamed to Asian-American music. Mason ( talk) 20:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Brain cancers

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason ( talk) 20:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Brain cancer survivors

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. We don't have other cancer survivor categories. Mason ( talk) 20:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:LGBT criminals

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an extremely problematic category, under WP:EGRS. We do not need an intersection of sexual orientation and crime. Similar categories have been deleted at the intersection of crime and race. Mason ( talk) 19:54, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Filipino police generals

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The one member makes no mention of "general"; I have already removed it from Category:Filipino generals. – Fayenatic London 17:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 03:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Director General of National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category created by inexperienced editor with only one member and no parents. – Fayenatic London 17:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings in the Falkland Islands

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. The IP's opposition is not particularly cogent: they are already in the tree of the sovereign power. And I will add that personal attacks (The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations) never make one's argument stronger. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:29, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one church in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 14:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate any of these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose in the cases of the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar. Dependent territory categories don't get under the categories of the sovereign powers this way. The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 11:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Sigh... this is probably the same IP ( Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:185.104.63.112_reported_by_User:Smasongarrison_(Result:_Blocked)) that's been making a mess. @ Bbb23 is there a mechanism to report this as a ban evasion? Mason ( talk) 14:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Confusingly in the case of Reunion further above on this page, IP went in the opposite direction. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yeah, I think that the IP has much stronger feelings about HK and Macao because they're in Hong Kong. Mason ( talk) 19:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Maliseet and Category:Maliseet people

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:49, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Maliseet is becoming more of an outdated name for the peoples; Wolastoqiyik is its official name and is becoming more & preferably used including by the area's governments: New Brunswick, Quebec, and Maine. Wolastoqiyik is also preferred by the Canadian Encyclopedia, Dartmouth, CBC, etc. Additionally, my move discussion for the main article under this topic (formerly 'Maliseet') to 'Wolastoqiyik' received unanimous support and was successfully moved, so it makes sense to move the relevant categories as well. This discussion also includes Category:Maliseet people. B3251 ( talk) 14:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:ISIS (K) terrorist incidents by continent

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province terrorist incidents. Note that the target category was speedy renamed. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one continent in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 13:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Guayana Esequiba

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Guayana Esequiba is not an administrative division of Guyana and shouldn't be categorized as if it is. It is the Venezuelan name of the area that is disputed by Venezuela. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Guayana Esequiba one of the geographical areas of the Guianas, like it is the case with the British, French and Dutch Guianas. It can be compared to the Patagonia or the Rocky Mountains, they don't have to be limited by administrative dvisions.
    The categories currently has articles about its flora and fauna. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 11:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • The comparison with Patagonia does not hold because the name Patagonia is used in the country itself and in many other countries. In contrast, Guayana Esequiba is only used in Venezuela. It is a matter of NPOV. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      • Not used only by Venezuela. It's just the Spanish name for the region. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 11:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
        • Whether or not it is a region at all is a matter of POV. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete, irredentist claim rather than a useful category tree. Looked to see if we had a similar one for Taiwan Province or Tskhinvali Region and we do not seem to. CMD ( talk) 12:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: There is indeed a Taiwan Province on parts of the island of Taiwan and the islands of Pescadores, which don't cover Taipei since 1967 and Kaohsiung since 1979. It still exists on paper even after it was streamlined. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 11:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Adding plants and animals into a category about a terroritorial dispute doesn't make much sense. The category is about a geographical region. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 16:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    That is exactly why I said "related material". If necessary, Category:Fauna of Guyana, Category:Fauna of the Guianas, Category:Flora of Guyana and Category:Flora of The Guianas can be used. As explained above and in the linked move discussion, "Guayana Esequiba" is a term promoted by Venezuela. WMrapids ( talk) 17:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks football games

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun ( talk) 23:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is 191 subcategories and 5 articles to be precise. A dual merge would make that 190 subcategories and 6 articles. I can't see how that hurts navigation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
None of the 5 are about an individual game.-- User:Namiba 13:50, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Palestinian people by descent

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Clearer and less ambiguous, the category:Palestinian people encompasses all individuals of Palestinian ethnicity. This name, "Palestinian people by descent," might be interpreted as including those individuals of Palestinian ethnicity whose ancestors were of a different ethnicity or nationality. However, this category actually comprises people from the State of Palestine, categorized by their descent.The term 'Palestinian' may also refer to people from the Palestine (region) or those from Mandatory Palestine, which are similarly categorized by descent. Stisorder ( talk) 20:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose. This rename changes the scope of the category for the worse, IMO. These people are Palestinians, period. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. We also have Category:People from the State of Palestine. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose many of the people in these categories are not from the State of Palestine. It goes without saying that Palestinians have been a largely refugee and diasporic people since 1948. If we remove those who are not from the State of Palestine, we would be essentially erasing their Palestinian heritage.-- User:Namiba 17:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I briefly looked through these categories and didn't find anyone not from the State of Palestine. -- Yorkporter ( talk) 17:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Here are seven examples I found through a non-exhaustive search Mai Masri, Lisa Taraki, Elyanna, Roberto Kettlun, Alexis Norambuena, Camilo Saldaña, Pablo Tamburrini. There are many footballers who represent Palestine because of their descent and are otherwise citizens of other countries such as Chile.-- User:Namiba 00:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Indeed, as User:Namiba said, there are many ethnic Palestinians who are not citizens of the State of Palestine. However, as far as I can see, we do not classify people by ethnicity and descent‎ simultaneously. See also similar case here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023_December 26#Category:Arab people by descent. Place Clichy and Nederlandse Leeuw probably know more whether we categorize people based on the shared aspects of their ethnicity and descent. Yorkporter ( talk) 17:48, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Note: I was pinged. We only categorise people based on their descent if it is known and relevant; this may differ from their citizenship (or subject-hood) or nationality. There have been endless discussions about when it is "relevant", which need not be repeated here. Suffice to say that ethnicity and descent tend to be a lot more controversial than someone's legal affinity to a jurisdiction (unless the status of that jurisdiction is disputed). NLeeuw ( talk) 17:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose as this changes the scope. People with a defining link to Palestine in other eras also deserve to be called Palestinian. This includes for instance people at the time of the British Mandate, and not just the Arabs. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Place Clichy A Category:People from Mandatory Palestine by descent already exists. Review who is actually included now in the categories being discussed. Yorkporter ( talk) 19:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    That was just an example. The State of Palestine was declared in 2013 IIRC. There were Palestinian people before then. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I also wanted to add that Category:Palestinian people of Israeli descent is absolutely the wrong way of framing it. The Arab Palestinian population within the state of Israel are largely self-defined as Palestinian. An Arab citizen of Israel who represents the Palestinian national football team is Palestinian, not of Israeli descent. So this category should be deleted, period.-- User:Namiba 18:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Here I agree with you. Category:Israeli emigrants to Palestine should be deleted as well. Yorkporter ( talk) 21:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep Israeli emigrants to Palestine. 203.186.171.150 ( talk) 12:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep all. Does Palestine overlap entirely and congruently with the State of Palestine? 203.186.171.150 ( talk) 12:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose per User:Namiba and User:Place Clichy's rationale and examples. There are many Palestinians who were not born within the current borders of the State of Palestine. These things are not always clear cut, especially in this case. – Starklinson 05:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:10th-century Danish clergy

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:20, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have one person in here. Mason ( talk) 04:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete is fine. Let's just close this one out. Mason ( talk) 19:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Slovenian geriatricians

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Category:Executed American revolutionaries

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason ( talk) 04:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pre-computer cryptographers

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The result of the discussion was: split as follows:

Thanks, (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: The current name isn't very helpful (not that mine is much better. But I'm trying to contrast Category:Modern cryptographers). I would love better suggestions. Mason ( talk) 04:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The above alternative better aligns with the existing category trees. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:54, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support alternative. Even better! Thank you :) Mason ( talk) 14:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:15th-century Indian politicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge (or delete, whichever term you fancy). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:42, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is a redundant layer that's unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sammarinese historians

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sammarinese writers. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category with only one person in it, isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sammarinese women poets

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse women writers yet, with only one poet in here. Mason ( talk) 00:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Government agencies established in 1484

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to have categories by year when there's only one year in this entire century. It's not helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 23:36, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Erythrotes stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Stub category for a genus with a single species. Too small a category to be useful Plantdrew ( talk) 22:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Template:Erythrotes-stub

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Stub template for a genus with a single species. Too small a category to be warranted Plantdrew ( talk) 22:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Exiled politicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge all to Category:Exiled politicians. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmgerge for now. There's no need to have just one (or two) politicians in these categories. Mason ( talk) 20:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages officially written in Indic scripts

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Languages written in Brahmic scripts (the target category was renamed). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The scripts are mostly not so much official as just conventional, and I don't think the distinction is particularly useful. PepperBeast (talk) 17:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Aphex Twin songs

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Category:Grand Crosses of the Order of Vasa

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The proper name for this grade of this order. Richiepip ( talk) 15:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Academics of the College of the Resurrection

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Category:Children of Ottoman sultans

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Category:Ice hockey people by state

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:34, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article each; merge, for now, with parent category. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 15:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose The primary category tree for these articles is the ice hockey people tree and American Ice hockey people by state. Merging to the generic sportspeople category would remove the articles from the more important category tree. DJSasso ( talk) 01:19, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The two category trees serve different purposes. The American ice hockey players is based on their international playing status/nationality. The other tree is based on where they are born. They portray two different sets of information which yes most often overlaps but doesn't always. - DJSasso ( talk) 18:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Ice hockey people from Kansas

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Omnis Scientia ( talk) 15:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose The primary category tree for these articles is the ice hockey people tree and American Ice hockey people by state. Merging to the generic sportspeople category would remove the articles from the more important category tree. DJSasso ( talk) 01:20, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The two category trees serve different purposes. The American ice hockey players is based on their international playing status/nationality. The other tree is based on where they are born. They portray two different sets of information which yes most often overlaps but doesn't always. - DJSasso ( talk) 18:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Moroccan educators by century

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one century in it. Mason ( talk) 04:20, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:12th-century Danish historians

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. If people wish to pursue the creation of a writers category, the members of the 12th century category are Sven Aggesen and Saxo Grammaticus, and the member of the 13th century category is Saxo Grammaticus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now there's only one or two people in these categories, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 01:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Generals from Kavajë

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only two generals in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 13:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Buildings damaged by the 2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per main article move. Article's name is now 2023 Al Haouz earthquake. Main category is nominated below. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 12:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake

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Category:Auckland rugby league clubs

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per its parents Category:Rugby league teams in New Zealand and Category:Rugby league teams by populated place, and per all the other subcats of the latter. Grutness... wha? 11:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Yagi clan

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, only two articles and they are not really about the clan. The two articles are also directly connected in Category:Historic Sites of Japan. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:47, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Indian independence activists from Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, Bangladesh did not exist for a long time after these people were independence activists and West Bengal at least not before the independence of India. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 20:07, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Question: What about maintaining separate categories for East and West Bengals? 61.244.93.97 ( talk) 09:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Please read the nomination rationale, it is anachronistic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Colonial United States (French)

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:New France. No prejudice either for or against creating further categories. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per article New France. I have not listed this at speedy in case I might oversee something. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Danish metalsmiths

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. There's only one page in each, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 05:53, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Now keep the 18th century but delete the 21st century. The latter consists of articles about people who were mainly active in the 20th century, per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I have now added four new biographies and weeded out a couple of the oldest people who did not seem to ghave been very active after the turn of the century. The four new biographies are all about people who are either still active or have been so until fairly recently. Ramblersen2 ( talk) 11:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Software licenses

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be a topic category not a set category. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:French forts in the United States

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Category:Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons

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Category:Dallas Crusaders seasons

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun ( talk) 02:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Hong Kong

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse by denomination of church. Mason ( talk) 00:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I would not object to upmerging to the Chinese categories. Hong Kong has become part of China even if it has a bit of autonomy. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This isn't relevant. There are dependencies which are possessions of different sovereign nations and got little or no autonomy. 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 14:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Agree. What matters is the fact that Hong Kong is now part of China. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • No it isn't part of that in the same way like provinces or province-level municipalities. It's just like Curaçao and Sint Maarten that are not part of the Netherlands in the same manner as Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba are. 46.229.243.187 ( talk) 08:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Curaçao is not part of the Netherlands at all. Hong Kong is part of China. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Populate with what? If there are any articles that belong here, feel free to add them right away. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • As an IP user you can vote as many times as you want but don't expect this will be taken seriously by the closer of the discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Major League Baseball players with one career hit

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Non-defining. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per Arbitrary Cat User:Namiba 00:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Defining characteristic. Let'srun ( talk) 19:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    How is it defining? This seems very arbitrary to me. Why not two career hits? Mason ( talk) 20:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Letsrun. One hit only players are talked about in media, two not so much. - DJSasso ( talk) 14:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Trivia is often discussed in the media. WP:CATDEF says "The defining characteristics of an article's topic are central to categorizing the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to[1] in describing the topic, such as the nationality of a person or the geographic location of a place." Does the fact that a player managed only a single career hit rise to this level?-- User:Namiba 15:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete how is this defining? I am getting zero relevent results when I search major league baseball players with one career hit -wikipedia. Do any of the keepers have links to reliable sources which discuss one hitters as such? House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:29, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 21


March 20

Category:National Heroes of North Korea

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Category:Cleveland Indians

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Teams who stay in the same location but change their name don't have their own categories - minus the personnel - and it should be the same for this. The only other similar tree I found was the Angels' three name changes and I've nominated them for merging as well. Merge these and also redirect. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Eureka Lott, @ Namiba, pinging from related Cfd(s). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tampa Bay Devil Rays owners

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article and he was the owner of the same team. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Los Angeles Angels

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:32, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
more Angels categories for merging
Nominator's rationale: merge and leave a redirect per WP:OVERLAP; while they went through a few nickname variations, the team did not change locations so there is no need to have three seperate trees for what is essentially the same team. Note: I've purposefully left out the field personnel because they always have a category. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 16:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian association football cup seasons

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Category:20th-century Japanese short stories

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Japanese short stories and Category:20th-century Japanese literature. The sole keep !voter was rebutted by Mason, who pointed out that WP:SMALLCAT has been deprecated (which means potential for growth is no longer a reason for keeping a category). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:28, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge to all parents. Category has only one member and no similar siblings. – Fayenatic London 14:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose It seems pointless and counter-productive. It's also based on an assumption that there are no other such stories, rather than the temporary situation of en:WP not yet having written anything about them. We ought to move forwards, not back. This sort of action is counter-productive and very discouraging to those who might otherwise be writing those articles. Andy Dingley ( talk) 22:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now. If more pages are created or can be found, then the category would be helpful. But encouraging page creation isn't the purpose of categories. And, I not sure that a lone category would encourage or discourage a page creator. (fyi: Potential for growth is no longer a criteria for keeping a category (see WP:SMALLCAT) Mason ( talk) 01:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Film articles

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The result of the discussion was: merge to the parent categories. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category not used anymore at Template:WikiProject Film. Upmerge the only sub-category. Gonnym ( talk) 09:29, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Gonnym: do you want to merge to Category:Film articles needing attention, Category:Pages incorrectly tagged for a WikiProject, and Category:WikiProject Film tracking categories (all parent categories), just a subset of those, or something else entirely? You officially proposed deleting the category, but your comment suggests you envisioned a merge. Thanks, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Category:Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Film articles is not linked to from anywhere (unlike what it still claims to in the category text). Category:Pages using WikiProject Film with unknown parameters should not be left without a parent, so re-parent it to this category's parent categories. Gonnym ( talk) 14:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Assyrian geography

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The intended purpose of the category seems to be "places relevant to the history of the Assyrians", assuming Assyrian continuity. However, the name of the category seems to incorrectly suggest that Assyrian geography is separate from non-Assyrian geography. A similar category does not exist regarding any other ethnic group that I can find (for example, Kurdish geography and Armenian geography don't exist but instead have Geography of Kurdistan and Geography of Armenia). Therefore, I think this category should be purged of modern content and re-focused to be about the geography of the Assyrian empire. I don't believe recategorization will be necessary because all the items for which Assyrian is defining will already be in relevant categories (such as all the diocese articles). ( t · c) buidhe 07:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Geography of West Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not needed because the subcategory is already in Category:Foreign relations of West Germany. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 13:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The subcategory is already part of the tree of these two merge targets. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fishing in West Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not needed because the subcategory is already in Category:Merchant ships of West Germany. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 13:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2020s Japanese superhero films

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:10, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge with Category:2020s superhero films as well. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Hello Kailash29792, This was closed two days ago as non-consensus (with 2 relists...). Maybe ask the user who did the close to relist one last time if they want (so that you don't need to ping other participants and re-format all these discussions (1990, 2000, 2010s...) so that they can be discussed together, as was the case for the first Cfd). Thanks. (If that is not what happens, I am obviously still against the merge, and also disapprove of the speedy renom, especially with the 4 cats discussed individually again.....). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose for now. I think waiting at least a month is a good idea, given how recent the discussion was. Mason ( talk) 13:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Ok, I agree the timing was bad, but given the success of the Indian version (all cats such as 2000s Indian superhero films being deleted recently) I thought this was in a similar position. On 20 April 2024 IST, I will open a mass CfD to upmerge all these categories. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Kailash29792: would you like to withdraw this nomination for now? (please ping on reply) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes. And how do I do that? Simply say Withdraw in bold? Cos I'm doing that now. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Churches of Sabirabad district

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. it's unhelpful to have a single church building. If not deleted/merged, the category needs to be renamed Mason ( talk) 05:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wives of Hasan ibn Ali

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The result of the discussion was: merge as in the updated nom. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have two wives in a category. Mason ( talk) 05:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Added to nom. Mason ( talk) 13:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Villages of Sabirabad district

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. unhelpful for navigation to only have one village in this category. Mason ( talk) 05:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, all villages categories should be merged to populated places regardless of their size, for consistency with many earlier closures in the past year. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2010s Japanese superhero films

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Category:People from Qalaqayın

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one person in this village's category. Mason ( talk) 04:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:1990s Japanese superhero films

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Category:Mass shootings in West Germany

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection between political regime/era and type of violence. Morever, There's only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 03:06, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century mayors by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. On the numbers, there are three people who support a merge to two who oppose. However, consensus is not a vote. Looking at the strength of the arguments presented, it is clear that those in support of a merge have refuted the argument presented by the opposition. No "by country" categories are being merged; the "by country" categories are being moved. Therefore, there is consensus to merge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Redudant category layer that's unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 01:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:18, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep There are already 31 different categories by U.S. state in Category:20th-century mayors of populated places in the United States. By merging the categories, as requested in the nomination, all categories for all mayors anywhere in the globe would be lumped together in one worldwide category by century. Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. This is a layer that is anything but redundant and would be extremely helpful for navigation. What am I missing here that the encyclopedia and its readers are better off having all categories for all mayors on Earth thrown together into a single parent category for every hundred-year period? Alansohn ( talk) 16:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This is an apparent misunderstanding of the nomination. The US categories aren't nominated for merger and there is no lumping together. The only thing the nomination achieves is removing an empty "by country" layer. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I agree that this seems like a misunderstanding. But I think the other important thing is that there are no other country categories in here right now. The nomination reflects that right now there are no other categories to jumble up. ". Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. " The nomination explicitly states "for now" because there are no other categories to jumble up. Mason ( talk) 00:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    So long as eg. Category:21st-century mayors of populated places in the United States‎ is not deleted, the United States mayors will not get jumbled together with Ukrainian majors. The parent category would instead have the United States category alongside Category:21st-century mayors of populated places in Ukraine. CMD ( talk) 07:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, redundant layer at the moment, given no alternative mayor category trees. CMD ( talk) 07:30, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Alansohn. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 11:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • That category is no longer needed and will be deleted as empty. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Year of work unknown

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. (Dual merge to Works by year unnecessary; child is already in Songs by year). NLeeuw ( talk) 06:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Drum Corps Associates corps

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Drum Corps Associates corps

Category:Paleontology portal

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 13#Category:Paleontology portal

16th century in the Mughal Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated year and decade categories, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 07:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2004 video games with demos

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The result of the discussion was: delete all. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Absolutely not a defining trait. Thousands upon thousands of video games have demos, and none of them are defined by that. I nominated 2004, then noticed the parent and several others. All should go. -- ferret ( talk) 13:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
It would be very sad you you delete :(
Not all games have demos. Thousands? Ok, they are divided by years.
Demo is important - because it freely distributable, and we can download it from some websites. This is imprtant for abandonware, for example Armies of Exigo - you cannot buy this game - we have only torrents or great demo.
And often demos is like a beta version of the game, that looks differently from the release version - this is important for the history and research. I am surprised that you want to delete such category :( Vitaly Zdanevich ( talk) 16:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Because it is not a defining trait of the games. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. -- ferret ( talk) 17:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment -I assume all of the additional subcats of Category:Video games with demos should be deleted as well? (Oinkers42) ( talk) 02:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes -- ferret ( talk) 04:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag all of the subcategories; if there is no further participation in a week we should be all set for deleting them.
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  • The whole set is now tagged. – Fayenatic London 11:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all per nom per WP:NONDEFINING. I'm sure some abandonware game demos are very interesting to torrent, but that's not Wikipedia's business. NLeeuw ( talk) 07:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Studies of right-wing politics

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Category:Disasters in Philippines by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: delete. No reason to keep this open. Liz Read! Talk! 05:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The Philippines has no "territories" to speak of, as every square inch of the country is incorporated (i.e., there is no " unincorporated area" or unorganized areas). Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:44, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete?
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  • Delete, once a previous CfD closure is implemented this category is empty. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. HueMan1 ( talk) 01:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment This category is empty now so there is nothing to Merge. Liz Read! Talk! 05:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arab-American gangs

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Arab gangs. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to Category:Arab gangs instead. AHI-3000 ( talk) 21:33, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Companies that operate fighter jets

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Category:Arab gangs

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Category:Wikipedians in Ngong Hills

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:49, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No other user pages in the parent category mention this location. – Fayenatic London 10:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Scholars of Greek language

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Category:Eastern Europe in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: merge articles. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Extremely WP:ARBITRARYCAT (really; read the category description). Indirect follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 27#Category:Video games set in Northern Europe (upmerged). Note: the "by country" child categories do not have to be upmerged; they are already in Category:Europe in fiction by country. Child category about video games has also been nominated for upmerging. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:38, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Manually merge per nom. In real life Eastern Europe is a fuzzy concept, even more in fiction. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Swingin' Utters

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient content for WP:EPONYMOUS category. – Fayenatic London 09:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Video games set in Eastern Europe

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The result of the discussion was: manually merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 27#Category:Video games set in Northern Europe (upmerged). Note: the "by country" child categories do not have to be upmerged; they are already in Category:Video games set in Europe by country. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Manually merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    agree with marco and nom. There's no need to cluster video settings by region. Mason ( talk) 23:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Eastern European restaurants

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT, unnecessary grouping of 3 restaurants which are already in the Russian, Ukrainian and Polish restaurants trees. I recommend Just Delete, there's no point in merging. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Central European art groups

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. There doesn't seem to be anything particularly "Central European" to the articles in this group. Some things are Czech, some Swiss, one German, one Austrian, one Swiss-Austrian and one Luxemburgish, but that's it. The contents do not suggest a larger "Central European" scope, let alone that the category has properly defined its scope. According to several definitions, Luxembourg and Switzerland belong to "Western Europe", while Czechia belongs to "Eastern Europe". The present grouping seems WP:OR. Upmerging to "Europe" resolves the arbitrariness. NLeeuw ( talk) 05:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Central European cuisine

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Just delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Main article Central European cuisine is already in parent Category:European cuisine and all subcategories just duplicate Category:European cuisine by country. NLeeuw ( talk) 05:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:National Heroes of North Korea

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Heroes of the Republic (North Korea). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Main article: Hero of the Republic. Not sure what the best name for this category is; should it specify North Korea in parentheses? I don't think "National" should be a part of the title; there doesn't seem to be any indication that it is in either Korean or English. toobigtokale ( talk) 21:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisting comment: Rename or delete?
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Relisting comment: Same question: rename or delete?
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Category:1990s Japanese superhero films

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. As Liz says. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Why do we need this which has only a few entries? All content has been transferred to Category:Japanese superhero films and Category:1990s Japanese films. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
See other similar cats. Again, 2 subcats and 3 articles does not strike me as an indecently low number: 'Categories which intersect two (or more) topics or characteristics can result in very narrow categories with few members. Such categories should only be created when both parent categories are large enough for diffusion to be an option, and when similar intersections can be made for related categories.' That seems to be the case here and up-merge seems unnecessary.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Lapinjärvi (municipality)

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 21:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Renamed the main article Lapinjärvi, Finland. Peltimikko ( talk) 17:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Revert article rename, it is unnecessary to add ", Finland", there is no ambiguity and other municipalities in Category:Municipalities of Eastern Uusimaa do not have this addition either. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I agree with Marco; keep this category and per WP:BOLDMOVE (If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself) I have undone the move. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There ARE other municipilities with added ”, Finland” in Category:Cities and towns in Finland, such as Nokia, Finland or Rauma, Finland or Outokumpu, Finland. Only Lapinjärvi is ”(municipality)”. Peltimikko ( talk) 03:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • For Nokia a disambiguator is necessary because the article Nokia is about the company. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:09, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Relisting comment: Let's see if the RM concludes as moved, or if there is consensus to rename here.
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If I may make a suggestion to the closer, I think closing this as no consensus is the best way forward. All of the above comments will be irrelevant once the RM is closed, and therefore a fresh discussion will be more productive than trying to continue this one. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia

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Category:Wikipedians with autism

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Autistic Wikipedians. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is about Person-first/identity-first language.

For many conditions/disabilities/traits, the use of person-first language is preferred or there is no consensus. This was also true in the past for autistic people. However, within the last few years, particularly since the rise of the Autism_rights_movement and its focus on self-advocacy, use of identity-first language has become much more preferred and prominent among people who are actually autistic.

While neurotypical people have no consensus on person-first or identity-first language, this category is used specifically by people who are actually autistic. So, in order to better represent people who self-identify with the category, it would be better for it to be named "Autistic Wikipedians".

A notable American organisation supporting person-first language is Autism Speaks. However, Autism Speaks has been criticised and boycott by the autism rights movement because it does not reflect the needs or desires of self-advocating autistic people.

References within Wikipedia articles

Although some prefer to use the person-first terminology person with autism, most members of the autistic community prefer autistic person or autistic in formal English, to stress that autism is a part of their identity rather than a disease they have. In addition, phrases like suffers from autism are objectionable to many people, and are discouraged by prominent style guides.

—  Autism_rights_movement#Terminology

Identity-first language is preferred by many autistic people and organizations run by them.

—  People-first_language#Criticism

References from reliable sources

Autistic adults and parents were more likely to select an [identity-first language] term. The identity-first terms “I am autistic” (64.1%) and “I have autism” (13.1%) were the most common terms selected.

—  Preferences for identity-first versus person-first language in a US sample of autism stakeholders by Amanda Taboas, Karla Doepke, Corinne Zimmerman in the United States.

This article shows autistic people generally prefer identity-first language, while other people who aren't autistic may prefer person-first language or may have no preference. Since this category is about Wikipedians who are autistic self-identifying, it makes sense to use identity-first language. This is more likely to respect the identity of the people in the category.

There has been a recent shift from person-first to identity-first language to describe autism. In this study, Australian adults who reported having a diagnosis of autism (N 198) rated and ranked autism-terms for preference and offensiveness, and explained their choice in free-text. ‘Autistic’, ‘Person on the Autism Spectrum’, and ‘Autistic Person’ were rated most preferred and least offensive overall. [...] Statements in this theme reflected that being autistic is core to these participants’ sense of self, and not something that can be removed or separated from them (i.e., their autism is not an ‘accessory’)

—  “It Defines Who I Am” or “It’s Something I Have” by Simon M. Bury, Rachel Jellett, Jennifer R. Spoor, Darren Hedley in Australia.

Alternatives considered

  • No change: "Category:Autistic Wikipedians" is a redirect to "Category:Wikipedians with autism". It is not possible for Wikipedians to add the "Autistic Wikipedians" category to their user page. This is because bots will edit their user page to "Category:Wikipedians with autism" in an attempt to "fix" the redirect.
  • Another name: As per the Australian paper, the term "Person on the Autism Spectrum" was most consistently ranked and offended the fewest people, though it wasn't the most preferred term as frequently as "Autistic Person".

While "Autistic Person" may not appeal to every single person who self-identifies as autistic, it overall has greater appeal in English-speaking communities than "Person with autism". CauliflowerMoon ( talk) 09:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Support making a change. My impression has been that the general preference in the community is to use Identity first language rather than person first language. Annoyingly, I could have sworn that the APA style guide used autism as an example for identity first preference... but it seems I was either misremembering or it was changed [1]. One core tenent that I think is extremely applicable from the APA guide: "Use person-first or identity-first language as is appropriate for the community or person being discussed. The language used should be selected with the understanding that disabled people's expressed preferences regarding identification supersede matters of style. " I think creating three categories with a user box template could be a workable solution. We could have the main category be: Category:Wikipedians on the Autism Spectrum, and have two child categories with Category:Autistic Wikipedians and Category:Wikipedians with autism. Mason ( talk) 00:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Mixed Do whatever you want. But this seems a little bit pointless to me, maybe that's just me. As an autistic person myself i don't care what happens, both seem fine to me AuroraANovaUma ( talk) 23:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Emigrants from British North America

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:30, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's only one category in here, whish isn't helpful for navigation. Also a followup to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_24 Mason ( talk) 01:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. As in the previous discussion, I would be ok with a follow-up proposal to rename pre-confederation Canada to British North America. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian association football cup seasons

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. @ GiantSnowman, you may wish to start a new nomination. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Suggesting rename for consistency with Category:Soccer cup competitions in Australia. – Fayenatic London 16:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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April 4

Category:Hualien County high schools

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Mason ( talk) 20:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Same disruptive OP. @ Liz, can you block him from category space? Mason ( talk) 20:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, again a whole tree for a single article. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Just a note that Category:High schools in Hualien City has been emptied. Regarding the editor I think you are referring to, I gave him a final warning but I guess it had no impact. Ponyo has already blocked them from category space, indefinitely. I would have gone to a limited duration block but they can always appeal. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Ponyo thanks for the block, Liz thanks for the explanation. NLeeuw ( talk) 00:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:18th-century Roman Catholic churches in the Canary Islands

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. There's not enough content to diffuse these churches by century. Mason ( talk) 19:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Mayors of populated places in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Page out of phase with its siblings in Category:Mayors by country. This was speedy-moved to its current name in November with a rationale that wasn't entirely applicable to it -- it cited the precedent of several "American X by city" containers having been moved to "American X by populated place", but this isn't subject to that same issue because it wasn't "Mayors of cities".
All other countries across the board are at "Mayors of places" rather than "Mayors of populated places", with this as the only outlier -- and while there may be a case that they should be at "populated places" too, that would have to be done to all categories right across the board, because it's not just a special US-specific issue. Further, all of the state-level subcategories here have also been left at "mayors of places" rather than "mayors of populated places", but they would also all have to be moved on the same grounds too.
The problem with "by city" isn't automatically applicable to "by place" as well — the problem with the former is that sometimes towns and villages also have relevant content that can't be accurately categorized as "city", but "places" isn't subject to that same issue because towns and villages are also places, and obviously an unpopulated place can't have a mayor by definition. So moving "mayors of places" to "mayors of populated places" would be a valid discussion to have as to whether it's needed or not, but it isn't automatically militated by anything that's happening to "by city" categories because it isn't the same issue.
Accordingly, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody's willing to tackle a comprehensive batch move of all "Mayors of places" categories to "Mayors of populated places", but there's no reason why this one specific category would need to stand alone as a unique divergence from all of the other categories. Bearcat ( talk) 18:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Assassinated people by year

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Ungrammatical naming convention. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 14:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Strong support. Lots of people will have been killed in a different century than they were born. This renaming centres the time of death, and makes the category's purpose unambiguously clear. In this context, the date of birth is WP:NONDEFINING.
NLeeuw ( talk) 16:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename, while I don't really expect that people have been categorized by date of birth, the proposed names are nevertheless clearer than the current names. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support rename! Mason ( talk) 19:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:NRW Trophy

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American Football (band)

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Category:International Challenge Cup

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The result of the discussion was: delete as unopposed and empty. ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 00:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Empty category. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Yes, it only contains an empty category. Liz Read! Talk! 19:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
And now it is completely empty. Liz Read! Talk! 20:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American insect pathologists

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Category:People convicted in the Offenburg trials

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 02:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. The only person in this category was convicted in the Buchenwald trial. Offenburg trials is not even a page on Wikipedia Mason ( talk) 00:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the article does not mention he was convicted in the Buchenwald trials. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I was basing it on the infobox. But delete is also good with me. Mason ( talk) 19:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I have removed it from the infobox. The subject of the article is not listed in Buchenwald trial while that seems an exhaustive list. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 3

Category:Categories by state or territory of Taiwan

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Just a huge mess delete/merge these duplicate categories Mason ( talk) 23:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete, a huge tree for only a few articles is not helpful at all. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Architecture in Asia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant categories/duplicate categories by the same user Mason ( talk) 23:28, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Terrorist incidents in Upper Kohistan District, Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. If not merged, the category needs to be renamed to reflect that this is Upper Kohistan District Mason ( talk) 23:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Crime in Shangla, Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was: delete/alt merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. If not merged, the category needs to be renamed to reflect that this is Shangla District Mason ( talk) 23:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Modernist architecture in Taiwan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: unhelpful categories made by the same disruptive user. Only have one page in them related to a current event. Mason ( talk) 22:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Asian culture by state or territory

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Nonsensical categories. Mason ( talk) 22:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • These categories are currently empty. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, recently created empty duplicates of existing cats. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tourist attractions in Taiwan by populated place

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful by the same disruptive category creator. Also the template the page creator used for Historic-Cultural Monuments only applies to California. OP keeps making categories and refuses to take feedback. Mason ( talk) 22:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Buchenwald concentration camp medical personnel

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation when you only have one person in here Mason ( talk) 23:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Transgender genocide

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate categorization: other than the main article, none of these topics are defined by their association with the disputed concept of transgender genocide. Some articles may need upmerging. ( t · c) buidhe 21:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 22:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Brazilian city councillors

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The result of the discussion was: rename as unopposed. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 02:55, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Juridically, it's called municipality, not city. See also subcategories/siblings at Category:Councillors in South America. -- MikutoH talk! 21:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Czech saints

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Czech saints

Category:Babson Beavers

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 02:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun ( talk) 18:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. Standard categorization scheme. Jweiss11 ( talk) 00:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
What guideline is that? Let'srun ( talk) 13:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
No formal guideline that I know of it, but it reflects the standard practice for scores of editors for more than a decade in topic areas covering hundreds of thousands of articles. What guideline is "lacks subjects"? Jweiss11 ( talk) 02:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. No objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Merge for now. "Standard categorization scheme." is not a good reason to keep a category. Its effectively saying this is how its been done, so no need to change it. It's effectively Argument from inertia. Mason ( talk) 21:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Crafts deities

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Crafts deities

Category:Words and phrases by language

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Words and phrases by language

Category:Magazine editors by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mason ( talk) 13:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No need to diffuse by nationality with 1 (possibly 2 categories) Mason ( talk) 13:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Giorgio Cini Foundation

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: unhelpful for navigation to have the contents of the category are only vaguely related. a link would be suffient Mason ( talk) 13:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Food gods

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 14#Category:Food gods

Category:Children of Charairongba

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Totally unnecessary cat with just two entries PepperBeast (talk) 11:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Italian publication editors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic of the only article in the category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. I have formally warned the page creator, who has not been responsive to the wall of messages on their talk page. Mason ( talk) 13:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages with own distinct writing systems

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Definition of "distinctive" seems to make this a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT PepperBeast (talk) 04:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei script

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Meitei script

Category:Shumang Kumhei

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Shumang Kumhei

Category:Meitei Brahmins

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Meitei Brahmins

Category:Titular Meitei princes

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Confusing, at best. None of these people seems to be titled, or a Prince. They just seem to share a surname and are somehow related to royalty. PepperBeast (talk) 04:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei princesses

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Indian princesses and Category:Meitei royalty. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Very small cat, overlapping. PepperBeast (talk) 04:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sanaleipak

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Grab-bag of unrelated items WP:SHAREDNAME PepperBeast (talk) 03:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei as a second or foreign language

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Definitely WP:NONDEF PepperBeast (talk) 03:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom Mason ( talk) 13:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. WP:OR as well. English is probably the second language of most continental Europeans, but we're not gonna put all ethnic groups in continential Europe in a category just because of that. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:31, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meitei language in Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Just two articles. PepperBeast (talk) 03:37, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Linguistic groups of the constitutionally recognised official languages of India

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rather convoluted thinking, and definitely WP:NONDEF. PepperBeast (talk) 03:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Phouoibi

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Tiny category of one eponymous article, one film, and one play. PepperBeast (talk) 03:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Kangla

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Basically duplicates the disambiguation page of the same name. PepperBeast (talk) 03:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Translations into Meitei

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Tiny category of only two pages. PepperBeast (talk) 03:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Medicine goddesses

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 14:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems like a lot of overlap/duplication. PepperBeast (talk) 03:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Not sure about the semantics, but seems like medicine is a human activity or product, while health is said to be bestowed upon humans as a blessing by deities. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Abundance goddesses

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The result of the discussion was: Aborted. I think I've ballsed this up slightly and will re-list. (non-admin closure) PepperBeast (talk) 11:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems like a lot of overlap. PepperBeast (talk) 02:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Maintenance deities

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rather strange category. I couldn't really find much to support it as WP:CATV, and the articles included weren't much help. PepperBeast (talk) 02:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Agreed The majority of pages in this category don't make much sense being here. Vishnu would be the only exception, but he may be better referred to as a god of preservation. Invokingvajras ( talk) 03:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support deletion, what the hell does "Maintenance deities" even mean anyways? Also delete Category:Abundance deities too for the same reasons. AHI-3000 ( talk) 21:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I actually think Abundance deities should be changed to Wealth deities and Commerce deities should be merged into that. PepperBeast (talk) 01:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Never heard of them, and there don't seem to be RS for them either. Seems like some Wikipedia category maintenance is in order... NLeeuw ( talk) 20:22, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Non-binary people by sexual orientation

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 11#Category:Non-binary people by sexual orientation


Category:Company editors

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I'm nominating this category and, by extension Category:Italian company editors and Category:Italian company editors by type because I can't find a definition on Wikipedia of what a "company editor" is and so I don't know who would or would not be included in this category. Categorization on Wikipedia is not supposed to be ambiguous and so I think either a definition should be included on a main space article or this category needs to be deleted or renamed. Liz Read! Talk! 01:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:20th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Aruba

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There are only 4 churches in this entire tree, which is not helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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April 2

Category:People executed by Sweden by guillotine

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one person in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 22:08, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge per nom. I would say "for now", but I wouldn't expect this cat to have potential for growth. Then again, WP:CRYSTAL... NLeeuw ( talk) 20:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • merge per nom. According to the one article in the category, only one person was ever executed by guillotine in Sweden, so there are no other articles which could be added (or missing articles which could be written). Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 19:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Vandalism on Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: Category:Vandalism on Wikipedia has only one page on it. What's the point in keeping it around? TheTechie (formerly Mseingth2133444) ( t/ c) 15:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The category was not tagged; I will do so.
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Category:Translators from Quebec

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCLOCATION, not meeting either of the two criteria on which that would be allowed. The parent categories are not otherwise subdivided by province of origin at all, and are not large enough to need diffusion on size grounds, so this isn't part of any comprehensive scheme -- but being from Quebec does not define a translator differently than being from anywhere else in Canada does, so Quebec doesn't need special treatment here that other provinces aren't also getting. (And no, it doesn't map neatly to whether the person is an English-to-French translator or a French-to-English translator, either -- Quebec anglophones and ROC francophones both still exist, so a person from anywhere in Canada can equally do either thing.) So this is a scheme that would really only be necessary if it were possible to all-ten-provinces-and-three-territories it right across the board, and is not a thing Quebec needs in isolation. Bearcat ( talk) 14:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. It also escapes me why there are gendered categories for translators. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support in principle. But also merge to Writers from Quebec‎. The gender intersection is because one of the parents is writers. Mason ( talk) 23:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Still, that does not require every subcategory to be split by gender too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not at all wedded to the necessity of subdividing translators by gender — most countries don't have that at all (India has one for women, but not for men, and even for women it's the only other country I know of that has one), and even the Canadian ones featured here were newly created by the same editor who created these Quebec subcategories on the same day just under a month ago, so there's absolutely a valid argument to be made that the gendered categories aren't necessary either. But that would be a fundamentally different argument than the one against these Quebec subcategories, so it wouldn't have made sense at all to bundle them directly into this discussion. They can certainly be nominated for a separate discussion if you feel strongly about it, but I didn't nominate them here simply because the question of whether gendered categories are necessary or not is a completely separate issue from whether Quebec categories are necessary or not. Bearcat ( talk) 17:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
We don't need a subcategory just for Quebec if no other Canadian province has one. That's not a "one province gets special treatment because hey why not" scenario, it's an "either all 13 provinces and territories get subcategories across the board or none do, with no middle ground" scenario. Bearcat ( talk) 03:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:The Sultan of Two Lands and the Khan of Two Seas

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (Though I will note that WP:SMALLCAT has been deprecated.) (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Textbook WP:SMALLCAT and rather pointless. This is one of several subsidiary titles of the Ottoman Sultans, and not a distinguishing feature as such. We don't even have an article on this specific title, unlike e.g. analogues such as King of the Four Corners which are notable precisely because they were reused by successive polities and their rulers. Constantine ✍ 20:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic and overlaps with Ottoman sultans. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF. Note: Smallcat has been deprecated and is no longer applicable. NLeeuw ( talk) 20:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages used in Doordarshan

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Category:Scholars by language of study

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Redundant layer. Both other children are already in target. NLeeuw ( talk) 16:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. As both other children are already in the target this is in fact just a deletion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support as the category creator. I think my reasoning was that not all Basque language scholars were linguists, but I don't feel strongly about it. Mason ( talk) 20:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:The Breakfast Club

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: With only a song from the film as the only other article, I don't think this warrants a category. -- wooden superman 15:48, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the articles already link to each other directly. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Grammarians of Arabic

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Grammarians of Arabic to Category:Linguists of Arabic. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an opposed speedy renaming nomination:
Copy of speedy nom
  • Category:Grammarians of Arabic to Category:Linguists of Arabic – C2C: Siblings within Category:Linguists by language of study are all named Linguists of Fooian. NLeeuw ( talk) 01:18, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Oppose Is the tharget the same as Category:Arabists? – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 01:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I don't think so. "Foo-ists" usually refers to scholars of both language and culture, whereas "linguists of Fooian" restrict themselves to, well, linguistics. It might be useful to draw a comparison with my own cultural milieu here. My native language is Dutch, my country of residence and nationality is the Netherlands. The study of both country and language is known as Category:Dutch studies (Neerlandistiek in Dutch), but you'll immediately notice that the contents of the category are very much focused on the country of the Netherlands and not so much on the Dutch language (also widely spoken and written in Belgium and Suriname, though these countries tend not to be of great interest, as the category seems to show). Similarly, in my experience, there is a lot of overlap between Arabists and scholars of Islam, as Arabic culture and Islamic religion are considered closely intertwined, even though linguistics are strictly speaking a separate discipline. But maybe it's better to move to full because there are lots of nuances to be made here. NLeeuw ( talk) 02:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Ok I've just found Category:Philologists of Arabic and now I'm confused as to what the difference is between the three. Let's just move go full. NLeeuw ( talk) 02:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Related discussion going on here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 2#Category:Grammarians of Persian.
I thought grammarians and linguists were synonyms, and this cat should be renamed in accordance with its siblings in Category:Linguists by language of study. But I'm not so sure anymore after some colleagues pointed out that previous CfDs resulted in Keeping grammarians of ancient languages, and that grammarians are just one type of linguists, just like philologists, lexicographers, and in this case Arabists. So, maybe renaming isn't a good idea, but instead we should make Category:Linguists of Arabic a parent of Category:Grammarians of Arabic, Category:Philologists of Arabic, Category:Arabists, and perhaps other members of subdisciplines of Arabic linguistics? NLeeuw ( talk) 15:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Pinging @ LaundryPizza03, Fayenatic london, and Marcocapelle: from closely related discussions. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Option 1 It is not yet clear if there are enough linguists here who are not grammarians. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 01:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Hah, seems like I'm gonna convince you after all. :) NLeeuw ( talk) 22:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion

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Category:LGBT people by identity

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The result of the discussion was: merge all to Category:LGBT people. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: As concerned here and here, the term identity is sketchy since sexual orientation isn't necessarily a sexual identity (and some argue identity is a choice compared to the term orientation). The original category uses "by variation". Not sure if it's the best. We can reparent these categories anyways.
Also, separating transgender from marginalized sexual orientations is exclusionary, as concerned here
-- MikutoH talk! 02:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Variation is not a term I’ve ever heard use by anyone referring to their orientation or identity. It sounds very inhumane and may actually be considered a form of othering - so I do not think that that could be used to refer to people - especially since all of these categories require positive self identification of the people tagged with these categories.
The worldwide WP:COMMONNAME use of the terms are “ sexual orientation”, " romantic orientation" and “ gender identity” - that is what the LGBTQ+ community, as well as the scientific community use. Anything else would be strange and artificial - Wikipedia follows, not leads in definitions.
Many people have multiple gender identities and sexual and romantic orientations. All of these are part of their overall Identity as an individual, hence "identity" is the overall root. Raladic ( talk) 04:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Has this been notified to the LGBT project? It really needs to be. Sympathetic to some simplfication, but I'd like to hear from those more involved, who I'm sure will have views. I'm pretty sure "variation" won't fly. I notice all our Category:Queer people seem to be female (or... not gay men anyway) which I don't think is how the term is generally used. Johnbod ( talk) 11:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I came here from WP:LGBT/Alerts, but a notice on the talk page might get more attention.-- Trystan ( talk) 13:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support alternative merge. I do like the alternative merge and grouping with sort keys. Strong Oppose to rename. "Variation"? I really really do not like the term variation, and would definitely be bothered if someone referred to my sexual orientation or gender identity as variation. (I know that this is anecdotal, and just one queer person, but that's my immediate reaction to the term). Mason ( talk) 21:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I noticed Lists of LGBT people#LGBT people by demographic uses "by demographic" instead of identity. Would this suit better? -- MikutoH talk! 23:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • @ MikutoH: "demographic" is, like "variation", also a word that is almost never used in common language in this particular context. Why would you want to keep this category layer in the first place? Isn't it much more natural to find lesbian, transgender etc. people directly under LGBT? Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I second the concern with demographic. Demographic is typicalyl used to describe a variety of groupings. If I were to see the term by demographic in the title of a wiki category, I'd assume it was looking at the intersections of nationality, race, and other broad classes of groupings. It would never occur to be that it would contain non-intersections, like Lesbian, Gay, Queer, Trans, etc. Mason ( talk) 23:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Marcocapelle: The only reason presented here to merge all container layers to the general category is making them all visible at it. Because merging both subcategories into "by identity" would solve the problem regarding them being separated. I'm not the only one supporting keeping it, it seems that Raladic supports status quo, and you also supported both choices suggested by Trystan, one of them supports keeping "by identity" cat and merging its subcategories.
    Why am I bringing "by variation" and "by demographic" here? Because then we can move the category in simplewiki (it hasn't RfD) and change the list section title. -- MikutoH talk! 23:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose as constituted, but not fundamentally against other alternatives. "Variation" is absolutely not the right word for what this entails, so that's a non-starter — but just upmerging them to the parent would be fine. Bearcat ( talk) 17:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment, if we merge "by gender identity" somewhere, Category:People with non-binary gender identities and Category:Transgender people should be reparented to Category:People by gender too. -- MikutoH talk! 00:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose either "by variation" (at worst othering, at best a confusing term which nobody else uses) and "by demographic" (I agree with Mason's interpretation above of what that would suggest, and it doesn't seem to fit the current category). Support the merge suggested by Marcocapelle. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 19:42, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province activities

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as in the updated nomination. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant and WP:OVERLAPCAT, I suspect nearly all activities would fit into Category:ISIS (K) terrorist incidents. Brandmeister talk 10:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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FFS, the category creator made more! Delete/merge all. Mason ( talk) 21:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • @ Smasongarrison: which ones? Feel free to add them here. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Oh sorry, I was reacting to the fact that you had found more categories by the creator. There aren't new ones beyond this list. Mason ( talk) 13:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Forts in the Caribbean

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The result of the discussion was: split/merge/rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 16:58, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only a few islands have fortifications other than forts, so using "forts" will be more useful, enabling categorisation directly within Forts by country. Some unnecessary layers can be merged, and some names need correcting/disambiguating. – Fayenatic London 08:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment

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The result of the discussion was: purge of biographies. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: purge biographies, as members of Hamas, al-Qaeda etc the view of these people towards Israel is obvious and does not define these people individually. Add a header on the category page that the category is not meant for biographies. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. This seems like a reasonable decision to me. XTheBedrockX ( talk) 14:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. thanks for the ping:) I really like the idea of adding the header on the category page. Soyembika ( talk) 22:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to Category:Anti-Zionism, I don't think we really need this category. Otherwise, I still support purging if this category is kept. AHI-3000 ( talk) 20:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I support purging, but not merging. Mason ( talk) 19:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jewish communities in Palestine temporarily abandoned during the mandate period

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Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms by Muslims 1941-49

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Category:18th-century American slave owners

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Category:Grammarians of Persian

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Same scope. All grammarians are linguists and vice versa. NLeeuw ( talk) 01:25, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sole survivors of indigenous peoples

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Last known members of an Indigenous people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: alternative name, sole survivors has a disaster connotation. I'm modeling it off of Category:Last known speakers of a language Mason ( talk) 23:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Boxing matches in Las Vegas

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley with no prejudice against speedy renomination for a merger. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The vast majority of these matches actually took place outside of the Las Vegas city limits. User:Namiba 01:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I would prefer it fit neatly into Category:Sports competitions in the Las Vegas Valley-- User:Namiba 12:45, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Marcocapelle, would you be opposed to the rename if the category is not merged? —  Qwerfjkl talk 12:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Fair question. In principle diffusing by Las Vegas Valley does not make a lot of sense because the far majority of human activity in Nevada takes place there. But, considering nominator's rationale, closing this as no consensus is the worst possible outcome. So the answer to the question is no, I would not be opposed. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:29, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Vampires in animated television

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The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This name feels more rigidly defining and less open to interpretation. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 22:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Rename to Category:Animated television shows about vampires to match other categories. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 00:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose: Honestly, looking at shows in this category, half of these seem to be not really surround narration about vampires. is Duck Dodgers, Adventure Time, Gravedale High, Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi really "about vampires" or various topics that happen to include a vampire? The previous title seems to match this relatively small cycle of tv series. Andrzejbanas ( talk) 21:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I mean, those topics would not be WP:DEFINING anyway and should probably be removed. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 15:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cheese and Pasta

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Category:Disasters in Golaghat

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The result of the discussion was: delete Category:Disasters in Golaghat; merge Category:History of Golaghat to Category:History of Assam and Category:Golaghat district. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for now. These categories were all made by the same user for the page Golaghat highway accident, who has been advised to not create duplicate/single page categories. There is no need to have a category with a single page in it. If not merged, the categories should be renamed to "Golaghat district". Mason ( talk) 21:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages associated with classical dances of India

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't seem to be a particularly natural or useful category. PepperBeast (talk) 20:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Bulgarian encyclopedias

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Category:Saint Anthony the Great abbeys

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:29, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge or delete. This isn't helpful for navigation to carve out two abbeys that are associated with a saint Mason ( talk) 13:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There shouldn't be two categories as this is largely a matter of WP:SHAREDNAME. It is merely a coincidence that one of the two articles does contain some legendary information about Saint Anthony the Great. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:European gangs

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The only item is child Category:European-American gangs‎ right now, and all of them are groups that were or are active in the United States. This doesn't fit in parents Category:Crime in Europe or Category:Culture of Europe. No doubt there are what you might call "gangs" in Europe, but they are not to be found in this category. For this, the Category:Gangs in Europe already exists. But I don't think a merger would make much sense, as there is little overlap between the two. NLeeuw ( talk) 16:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 00:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Regional Mexican culture

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Same scope. Note: I've speedied the target category to be renamed to Category:Culture of Mexico by state. If approved, I will change the target in this nomination. But I think the situation is simple enough to already propose this merger.  Done NLeeuw ( talk) 15:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Regional French culture

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Unlike Category:Regional Spanish culture that I nominated earlier today, this cat almost completely overlaps with its parent. The only difference is the child Category:Culture of the Basque Country, which is mostly focussed on culture in the Basque Country (autonomous community) in Spain, and has virtually nothing to do with the French Basque Country. Anything that is relevant to French Basque culture could be placed in Category:Culture of Nouvelle-Aquitaine if necessary. NLeeuw ( talk) 15:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:I-Kiribati chiefs

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, currently only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Klingon-language operas

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Category:Dutch encyclopedias

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Category:Meitei language encyclopedias

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category with only one entry. PepperBeast (talk) 11:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. It is not useful to categorize the article by language since no less than 23 languages are involved. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom and Marcocapelle. NLeeuw ( talk) 12:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Irish people of Antigua and Barbuda descent

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Category:Islands of the Caribbean part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an unnecessary layer just holding the historical Islands of the Netherlands Antilles and Islands of Aruba. The parent hierarchy Dutch Caribbean may need a complete overhaul, but this layer can easily be merged first. – Fayenatic London 11:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Service industries in the Dutch Caribbean

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer with only one sub-cat. – Fayenatic London 12:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:63 BC disestablishments

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, isolated year category while the other disestablishments in this period are categorized by century. Move article Seleucid dynasty to Category:1st-century disestablishments. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Regional Spanish culture

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The result of the discussion was: purge and merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:CROSSCAT. The words "regional" and "Spanish" take up multiple ambiguous meanings, depending on the child category. "Spanish" can mean "Spain", "Spanish nationality", "Spanish diaspora" or "Spanish language", while "regional" can mean "city", "autonomous community", "country" (Spain, Canada and the United States), "continent(s)" (Spanish America) or "archipelago" (Caribbean). This is a mishmash. If anything, we should adhere to the category tree, which is indicated by parent Category:Culture of Spain. Category:Culture by city in Spain and Category:Spanish culture by autonomous community‎ fit in that tree, and shoud be upmerged to this parent. The rest does not, and should be Purged. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Victoria Williams tribute albums

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The result of the discussion was: procedural keep. @ Koavf. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 09:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:05, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: All of my rationales for this and similar categories can be found at the January 2023 discussion about Laura Nyro tribute albums, for which there was no consensus. I can recreate those arguments here if desired. What I would really like to do is to have a larger discussion on this and seek consensus for categorization across the various tribute albums categories. Thanks to all for their contributions. KConWiki ( talk) 01:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    I agree that a larger conversation is warranted. KCon, should you agree, ping me here and I'll close this conversation on this particular category. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 16:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • @Koavf - Sounds good to me, let me know where the discussion will be taking place. Thanks for your efforts. KConWiki ( talk) 00:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Anti-Zionist Christians

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Category:Riojan music

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 12:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only item is Music of Navarre and La Rioja, which has been an unsourced three-sentence stub since 2005. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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PS: 2nd target was renamed to Category:Culture of La Rioja. NLeeuw ( talk) 19:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Category:Christian anti-Zionism

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Category:Women cryptographers by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 13:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    support upmerge for now Mason ( talk) 02:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Inactive anime conventions

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Category:Expressways in Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Two articles only. One of the articles is about an entirely hypothetical motorway as indicated in the entry, the other hypothetical by and beyond the straits. Rename to hypothetical expressways of the People's Republic of China. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 12:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete, I think inclusion in Category:Proposed roads in Taiwan is accurate and sufficient. It's not really accurate to say that a road is "in" a purely notional province. — Mx. Granger ( talk · contribs) 16:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, a road doesn't exist in a notional entity. Already covered in an existing category as mentioned, although other parent categories might also apply. CMD ( talk) 07:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Is there any category for notional matters of this country? 58.152.55.172 ( talk) 08:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Delete per Marco. IP, what's your goal here? You have better things to do with your time than this. Mason ( talk) 22:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Matters related to that country which makes the irredentist claims gotta be identified with that country itself. These matters do not belong to the actual location to which they are designated by that country. 58.152.55.172 ( talk) 08:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The target category you may be looking for would be Cross-strait relations. 46.226.162.228 ( talk) 19:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who are sick of blue categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Annual serious nomination of inappropriate joke categories on April Fools Day. Fails WP:USERCATNO. No reason for this to need to exist to defer open uprising against consensus since the sole member is long gone. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who enjoy cracking wise with categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Annual serious nomination of inappropriate joke categories on April Fools Day. Fails WP:USERCATNO. No reason for this to need to exist to defer open uprising against consensus since one of the members is long gone and the other has not objected to a previous joke category being deleted. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 31

Category:Arabian freedmen

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason ( talk) 23:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Just delete, the article is still in Category:Slaves from the Abbasid Caliphate. Presumably it was not standard to free one's slaves but I can imagine that a larger proportion of notable slaves have been freed, so that the concepts are more overlapping in Wikipedia than they were in everyday medieval life. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    Works for me Mason ( talk) 16:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Monochamini

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The article Monochamini redirects to Lamiini where they are listed as synonyms. Pichpich ( talk) 21:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:15th-century Maltese philosophers

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one person in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 18:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Infrastructure

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Category:14th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Moldavia

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one bishop in here, which isn't very helpful for navgation Mason ( talk) 18:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:16th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Portuguese Macau

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Category:16th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Africa

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Category:Malawian music by city

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary overcategorization of a small number of articles -- in both Blantyre and Lilongwe, the creator started "Musicians from [City]" categories that are fine on their own, but then vastly overdid everything else around them.
Firstly, they do not each require a separate "singers" subcategory: the musicians categories have just ten and seven articles in them, respectively, which is not large enough to require diffusion for different types of musicians, and the singers subcategories in turn have just two and four articles in them -- and obviously if the singers categories aren't necessary, then neither is Category:Malawian singers by city.
Secondly, with just two categories they don't need a dedicated Category:Malawian musicians by city container either, and can just be filed directly in Category:Malawian musicians.
Thirdly, they also don't need "Music in (City)" parents that don't have anything else in them (and have nothing else in the "City" parents that can be refiled into them either), which also vitiates the need for Category:Malawian music by city.
Fourthly, neither Category:People from Blantyre nor Category:People from Lilongwe have enough occupational subcategories to require chunking them out into "People from X by occupation" containers, and if those aren't needed then Category:Malawian people by city and occupation and Category:Malawian people by occupation and city also aren't needed either.
Again, the musicians subcategories themselves are fine, but they don't need any of these as parent or child categories -- they can both just be filed directly in Category:Malawian musicians and the appropriate "People from X", and don't need this many layers of redundancy added to their family trees. Bearcat ( talk) 15:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom, this makes navigation through the tree a nightmare. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Bearcat, @ Marcocapelle There are many articles that need to be included in the categories above that haven't yet been added. If the categories are intended to be merged or deleted, I just wonder how this survives which uses the very same style and structure. If the intention is to have at least many articles into them, well then, would you give it a little time as I would look for articles to add into them (or even create some). Hopefully Wikipedia is work in progress. Thanks. Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 17:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Just because that exists doesn't mean this has to as well, because it's entirely within the realm of possibility that that shouldn't exist either. Nothing stops anybody from creating any unwarranted thing at any time, so the existence of one thing is not automatically validation for the existence of another. Bearcat ( talk) 17:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:British Kenya

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename, seems a straightforward case of WP:C2D but having this for full discussion just in case it isn't that straightforward. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • 'Support I see no reason to object and it is indeed close to a WP:C2D. Pichpich ( talk) 21:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arab-Jewish culture in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename as part of as part of Category:Arab-Jewish diaspora. This suggestion had some support at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 21#Category:Arab-Jewish culture in the United States. "Diaspora" would match some parent categories such as Egyptian-Jewish diaspora. I acknowledge that these are also part of Jewish culture by country, but IMHO conforming within Arab-Jewish diaspora would be most helpful. – Fayenatic London 07:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support, the proposed names clarify better what these categories are about. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Meta-Wiki autoconfirmed users

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for utterly lacking collaborative value. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedians who like Super Mario

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The result of the discussion was: delete. In line with previous consensus. It's worth noting the category contains only one member. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for utterly lacking collaborative value. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Pichpich ( talk) 21:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    It shouldn't be deleted because I keep expanding the page. Hjajajsbbxb12 ( talk) 15:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • That is not a reason to keep it. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:16, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
    • User:Hjajajsbbxb12, the size of the page isn't a factor. If the category is kept I'd recommend cleaning up the userbox clutter. It's normal and fine to have some userboxes appear on categories like this, but the page is pretty disorganized right now.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:USERCATYES. In my opinion this category is totally fine per Appropriate types of user categories § Categories which group users by interest in a subject: "This includes any grouping of users by interest in a subject – that is, interest in editing articles related to a certain topic – so long as the topic is not overly narrow or vague (see below: Categories that are overly narrow in scope, Categories that are vaguely defined)." These sorts of "Wikipedians who like x" are fairly common additions to userpages and I'd say Super Mario is a large enough series with an active enough base of interested Wikipedia editors improving the subject's coverage that it's reasonable for such a category to exist. I can't see anything in WP:USERCATNO that would suggest this an example of an inappropriate user category, as I don't think it's so narrow that it cannot conceivably be relevant to a broad number of users' editing.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 00:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Liking something is completely different than willingness to improve the encyclopedia with respect to this topic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I can't say I agree. I think it could reasonably go on the userpage of a member of the WikiProject Video games Nintendo task force because it seems analagous to the very populous Category:Wikipedians who like Pokémon. Of course, one could always say that category needs to go as well and nominate it here, but I think at that point you'd have to argue there should be no "Wikipedians who like <x>" categories of any sort and they should all be deleted, but that seems like the sort of thing that would require broader discussion about user category guidelines at some other venue. So for me personally, I'd need some convincing that this category is less related to improving the encyclopedia than other analagous categories which have long been understood to be acceptable.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Reading through that discussion, I agree with what Diriector_Doc had to say. I'll add that I think a better solution (if there exists a problem in the first place) would be to rename some of these "Wikipedians who like <x>" categories to "Wikipedians interested in <x>" so long as the subject is not too narrow to realistically relate to any editing areas. One thing that stood out as confusing in that previous deletion discussion was that the nom intentionally spared " Category:Wikipedians who like Game Center CX" solely because GameCenter CX is a show rather than a video game. What does that have to do with the collaborative value of the category? The bar for being kept versus deleted should be that a subject has enough coverage on Wikipedia that there exists an editing community (which can be said about some of those deleted categories), not "delete if it's a game series, keep if it's a television series."  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedian disc golfers

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for utterly lacking collaborative value, compare Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/User/Archive/April_2008#Category:Wikipedians_who_play_golf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pppery ( talk • contribs) 01:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 30

Category:History organizations based in Kazakhstan

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:18th-century Slovak physicians

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge as nominated. Categorization of Samuel Genersich can, of course, be discussed at Talk:Samuel Genersich. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Triple upmerge for now. There are only two people in this category, while the parent (18th-century Slovak people) has 6. Right now this isn't helpful for navigation to diffuse by occupation and century and nationality. Mason ( talk) 19:22, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Centuries in Almaty

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:French forts in the United States

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Category:Slovenian geriatricians

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Toadette Edit! 21:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse this medical specialty by nationality to this degree. Each of these noms have one or two people in them Mason ( talk) 22:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • That is a circular argument. After the merge very little of the tree will be left. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional categories were added to the nomination, relisting to allow time for discussion.
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Relisting comment: Due to suspected WP:MEAT.
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  • Merge in principle, but I'd prefer an RfC on the matter of upmerging categories for the sake of navigation. —  Qwerfjkl talk 19:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons

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The result of the discussion was: single merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects and does not aid navigation. Let'srun ( talk) 02:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now with only two articles, but presumably dual merge also to Category:College football seasons. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • dual merge also to Category:College football seasons – Huh? Why the heck would we want to merge a mere two of 30,000+ college football season articles to create a brand-new category called "College football seasons" – that makes absolutely zero sense. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      • It can be populated with many more articles when all subcategories with one or two articles are merged. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:33, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
        • That still makes no sense. If I wanted to find seasons of this team, I would look up "Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons", not a broad "College football seasons" category that has the potential for hundreds of thousands of entries! Not to mention such a category would be missing tens of thousands of articles for programs which have more than a few seasons with articles. It just doesn't make sense. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:42, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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@ Marcocapelle: are you alright with a single merge? House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Children of Ottoman sultans

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not all of the princes and princesses included in this list are children of the sultan, some are grandchildren. Векочел ( talk) 14:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. It is also a redudant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The fact that you mentioned is good reason to keep the category, it should be used for specifically children of Sultans, illegitimate ones too. ★Trekker ( talk) 18:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Academics of the College of the Resurrection

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Category:Aphex Twin songs

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Category:E7 nations

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Associated articles E7 (countries) deleted at AfD. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Political posters of Italy

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Category:Converts from Nontrinitarianism

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Early modern history by city

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, overlaps with Category:Centuries by city and Category:Decades by city. If kept, rename Category:Early modern history by city to Category:Early modern period by city per article Early modern period and parent Category:Early modern period. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:19, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Support rename if kept per nom. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:English people by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:English people by descent. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 22:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A. rename per usage of "descent" in the subcategory names. B. purge Category:English Jews because the latter isn't about their ancestors but about what they are themselves (i.e. it is about ethnicity rather than about descent). This is part of a larger stale speedy nomination in which User:1234qwer1234qwer4, User:Anomalous+0 and User:Smasongarrison participated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep the existing name. The wording suggests it's about something broader than descent; and indeed national origin may not be something to do with or the same as ethnicity or ethnic origin. 83.229.61.201 ( talk) 15:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is not in fact broader, because the subcategories are by descent too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. I'm fine with adding Category:English Jews to the parent category. Being Jewish is nested under both ethnicity and religion, so as long as we have it in English people as well as the religion sub cat, I'm fine with purging. (otherwise it gets hidden in English people by religion) Mason ( talk) 17:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 21:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Is this discussion tied to the hundreds of "by ethnic or national origin" categories that have been sitting in Speedy Renames for weeks on the CFD page? If so, that should be mentioned that this one category rename could impact hundreds of other categories. Liz Read! Talk! 21:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Male television actors by ethnic or national descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not necessary, the subcategory is already part of Category:Belgian male television actors. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 01:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake

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Category:Kosovan LGBT-related films

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only page in here is already in the relevant subcategories of Kosovan films and LGBT-related films Mason ( talk) 01:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arabian agnostics

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Middle Eastern agnostics. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category is too small for navigation, isn't a nationality, and is probably not a defining intersection Mason ( talk) 01:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Asia and Category:Bangladeshi Roman Catholic bishops. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:20, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's only one list in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 00:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Administrations of prime ministers of the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:British premierships. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:British premierships. Administrations of PM's is the same as the Premiership. Since it refers to the same thing, this category is a redundant layer of subcats. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 00:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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29 to 35 days old

March 29

Category:Sunak administration

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Similar to categories for American presidencies. Examples being Category:Presidency of Joe Biden which relates to the Biden Administration which refers to the presidency/tenure of Biden as President. The same is true for a Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Their tenure is referred to as a Premiership and the main article is Premiership of Rishi Sunak. Not Sunak administration which refers to the premiership. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 23:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The ministry is the government which in itself is part of the administration. Even with the reshuffling of cabinet members, it doesn't warrant it's own category as it as part of one adminstration. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 14:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Jessie (2011 TV series)

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The result of the discussion was: keep. WP:SMALLCAT is an invalid rationale, and the nom did not sufficiently argue how WP:EPONYMOUS applies here. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is the second time this category has been created, the first time being on April 20, 2021, and this current time being on March 21, 2024. It was previously deleted on May 12, 2021, per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Category:Jessie (2011 TV series), and nothing has really changed since then, so this should be deleted again.

What I said back then is still applicable now. To restate some of it: At absolute minimum, a template or category needs half a dozen items to be worth it, which, at present, this category has. However, that still does not necessarily merit inclusion, just like if something passes WP:V, it doesn't necessarily mean it should be included due to WP:DUE vs. WP:UNDUE. This category is also WP:EPONYMOUS, which means that only things related to the main topic should be listed here. In this case, the episode lists certainly don't belong here, which would bring the number of items down to four, but I even question the Indian adaptation. See also WP:SMALLCAT. Amaury • 22:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep as category creator. This seems very similar to the case of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Henry Danger. I really fail to see how the episode lists should not be included here. Plus WP:SMALLCAT has been deprecated since the original discussion. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 02:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nothing has changed since the last time you tried creating this, and I don't know what made you think something had. The other category has no relevance to this one. Amaury • 07:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep, it seems to me that this category was previously deleted per WP:SMALLCAT, which is now deprecated. Every single delete vote from 2021 mentions SMALLCAT. Di (they-them) ( talk) 05:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Medical schools in the Caribbean

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Category:IIHF Women's World Ice Hockey Championships

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Official tournament name as used by the IIHF. Maiō T. ( talk) 20:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:History of the Jamaica Province of the Moravian Church

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, the only article is mainly about Baptists rather than about the Moravian Church. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:.io video games

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Category:Rathores

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Category:2004 video games with demos

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Early modern period

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with Early modern period and Category:Early modern period. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of Italy by province

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 18:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. The subcategory is already in the tree of Category:History of Italy by region so a merge is not needed. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:42, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ethnonymic surnames

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:Toponymic surnames. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No such concept Ethnonymic surname in reliable sources. As original research, category created by banned user from created lots of mess in anthroponymic articles/categories.- Altenmann >talk 05:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:20th-century Bosnia and Herzegovina mathematicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There are only three Bosnia and Herzegovina mathematicians in the entire tree. Upmerge for now, there's no need to diffuse this category by century Mason ( talk) 03:42, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American consulting businesspeople

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 00:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Just delete, with very few exceptions these aren't management consultants at all, and "consulting" alone is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 28

Category:Swadesh lists

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in category PepperBeast (talk) 17:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Swadesh lists are sometimes embedded in sections of language family articles, but I've never seen then as stand-alone articles. Probably not notable enough for them either. NLeeuw ( talk) 14:24, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Šako Polumenta albums

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A category of redirects that all go to the same article with no info there on any of the albums except in a discography list. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 16:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Georgia at the UEFA European Championship

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Georgia national football team. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category with no imminent prospect of expansion. 2024 is apparently the first time Georgia have ever qualified for the UEFA, so there isn't any significant volume of Georgia-UEFA content to file here yet -- the base article itself is the only thing there is, and the country does not yet have any of the spinoff content that populates other countries' subcategories of Category:Countries at the UEFA European Championship. So no prejudice against recreation in the future if and when there's more content for it, but it isn't needed just for one article -- the article can just be filed in the base countries category (where it already is) and Category:Georgia national football team in the meantime. Bearcat ( talk) 15:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Under 20 Rugby Championship

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Too-small category for a brand-new thing. This is a new level of competition just being introduced for the first time at this year's Rugby Championships, so the 2024 edition is not just the only article filed here now, but the only article that can be filed here at this time. So no prejudice against recreation in the future when there are enough other articles to justify a category, but it isn't necessary for just one thing, and can be catted as part of the parent entity in the interim. Bearcat ( talk) 15:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support. I created the cat - the author of the 2024 article had added it as a redlinked cat - might have been better deleting it! Agree with the nominator's rationale. Bcp67 ( talk) 17:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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New York (state) city template subcategories

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: both categories consists only of one navbox. —⁠ andrybak ( talk) 14:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom (the two pages are already in the target, so deletion suffices). Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Arms (video game) characters

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only one article ( Twintelle). Seems to be a WP:NARROWCAT. No good merge targets. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 14:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as the creator. This was created before Min Min was redirected. No prejudice to recreation if Arms gets more character articles. QuicoleJR ( talk) 14:08, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sportspeople from Bastrop, Texas

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article, checked for more and there are none. User:Namiba 13:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Botswana male actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There are only two Botswana actresses in the entire tree (and three actors total). There's no need to diffuse by century, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 13:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate the categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:1990s Japanese superhero films

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Category:Australian association football cup seasons

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Category:Wikipedians with autism

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Category:Irish history awards

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article each, this is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate any of these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 19:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Disasters in Cotabato

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article, this is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 19:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Songs written by Carmol Taylor

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: redlink songwriter ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 02:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Songs written by Wayland Patton

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Redlink songwriter ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 02:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Disasters in Philippines by province or territory

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Category:Events in the Philippines by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Events in the Philippines by province. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:00, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Events in the Philippines by province Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Categories by province or territory of the Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Categories by province of the Philippines. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Categories by province of the Philippines. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge or reverse merge, clearly duplicates. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:47, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The Philippines has no "territories". HueMan1 ( talk) 10:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of the Philippines by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of the Philippines by province. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:History of the Philippines by province. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of the Philippines. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category of Category:History of the Philippines. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:National Heroes of North Korea

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Category:Provinces and territories of the Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Provinces of the Philippines. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category of Category:Provinces of the Philippines.. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2010s Japanese superhero films

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 19:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All content has been transferred to the related categories Category:2010s Japanese films, Category:Japanese superhero films and Category:2010s superhero films. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
What do you mean, "content has been transferred"? You mean you've added those categories before the merge was decided? I'm not sure I like the idea, to be honest. I would have waited for this discussion to be closed (again) before doing that. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Philipino culture by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Aside from being laughingly misspelled, it is a duplicate of Category:Philippine culture by province. Howard the Duck ( talk) 01:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Hypergryph

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only has two pages, and one is a redirect. Even if we were to have an article for this, it should be named after Arknights and not the company, since Arknights is all that they are known for. We have Category:Doki Doki Literature Club! and Category:Bluey (2018 TV series), not Category:Team Salvato and Category:Ludo Studios. QuicoleJR ( talk) 01:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles about this topic are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:E7 (countries)

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete or merge. The main article was deleted. The subcategory is enough. -- MikutoH talk! 23:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:United Football League (2009–2012) venues by team

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The league is defunct, the categories are small, and they are all already in Category:United Football League (2009–2012) venues. User:Namiba 14:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Members of the Philippine House of Representatives

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category; see Category:Members of the House of Representatives of the Philippines. Either way, we don't categorize representatives directly to categories such as this. Howard the Duck ( talk) 11:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Savannah Bananas players

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 10:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The Savannah Bananas are an exhibition barnstorming team. USA Today says to [t]hink of them like the Harlem Globetrotters, but for baseball. These notable individuals who are now categorized as playing for them did so as a one-time stunt. They do not "play" for the team. The few articles I've spot checked make no mention of their Bananas "tenure". This is a non-defining characteristic. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 18:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete per nom. I agree, its a non-defining characteristic if these players appeared only once or twice as a publicity stunt. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Don't Delete only remove those that appeared a few times. They have full-time players though and the category should not be deleted. Batgirl-Awsomeness ( talk) 00:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The Savannah Bananas used to be a collegiate summer league team in the Coastal Plain League. This is defining for those players. However, the team eventually became an exhibition team, which is generally not defining for most of the players. I think we need purge those who made singular appearances but keep the category. Look at the articles in the category and you will see plenty of non-exhibition players.-- User:Namiba 18:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The question are they full-time players? Like do they regularly play like they would with a Major League team? I checked a few articles at random and it doesn't even mention they played with the team. One ex-major leaguer appeared in a few games in 2022 but not beyond that.
(Also, don't confuse the players for Savannah Sand Gnats as regular players for the Savannah Bananas. On a quick glance, it may seem like its the same team but the latter is a minor league team). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Rylan Bannon and Cade Marlowe are two players whose articles indicate that they played for the collegiate league team. More research is needed for the others in the category.-- User:Namiba 12:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC) reply
It is akin to the better known Category:Cape Cod Baseball League and is definitely defining.-- User:Namiba 13:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep, the team is notable per references at its page, and its players, if they have an article, certainly rate a categorization. Randy Kryn ( talk) 13:31, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Nazis in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: containerise. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 10:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not a notable list. The sub-categories are notable due to criminal or treasonous behavior. Additional members will appear to be guilty by association. Johnjbarton ( talk) 16:49, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Containerize (do not delete), the articles directly in this category are about people who may have been Nazi symphatisants, but that was mainly before they migrated to the United States. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I assume "containerize" means using Wikipedia:Container_category? What happens when an editor adds the category to an article? Johnjbarton ( talk) 17:45, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • Then everyone can revert that, preferably with a reference in the edit summary to the containerization discussion if there was any. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      Thank you for your explanation. This solution then creates an ongoing maintenance issue that would not occur if we delete the category. Is there any notable reason to keep the category? Johnjbarton ( talk) 18:20, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      • It's not much different in maintenance than everyone being able to recreate a deleted category and everyone else being able to get it deleted again as G4. Having said that, I doubt if the two smaller subcategories are appropriate (one nominated above) and if they don't stay there isn't any reason to keep Category:Nazis in the United States after all. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lean containerise. I can live with helping with the maintenance if that's the only barrier. Mason ( talk) 19:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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English-language Bahamian films

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per longstanding stated criteria on precedents Category:English-language singers and Category:Songs in English, English-language categories should be excluded for countries where English is the majority language. The Bahamian category includes 100% of the articles about Bahamian films, making it pointless. The others may be a little more useful since they are siblings of Irish-language films, Scottish Gaelic-language films, Scots-language films and Welsh-language films, but as the the majority of the output from those countries is in English, I believe the English-language categories should be deleted as WP:OVERLAPCAT. Note that Irish, Scottish and Welsh have been explicitly excluded from the singers and songs categories since 2012. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • The oppose does not really address WP:OVERLAPCAT, these categories largely overlap with the whole tree of their parent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:26, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Minor league coaches

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a revisioned version of a previous Cfd related to Minor league coaches. These particular teams are defunct now and have only one and two articles respectively in them. Propose upmerging these two to the parent category. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 09:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose as it would break the scheme and eliminate them from a category connection with the team.-- User:Namiba 18:34, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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What I mean is that by deleting the team coaches category, there will no longer be any category linking them to that team. If there were a Category:Jamestown Expos, for example, I would support merging to that and the minor league coaches category.-- User:Namiba 11:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Christianity in Austria-Hungary

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no Category:Religion in Austria-Hungary as a potential merge target. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 00:08, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Griffith family

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The result of the discussion was: delete, but for real :) (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is supposed to have already been deleted but wasn't. Yours6700 ( talk) 07:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural comment, the category wasn't tagged back then, nor was it now. I just tagged it after all. A category won't be deleted by the bot if the page has not been tagged. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per Yours6700's original reasoning, which still applies to the category now. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 02:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per original CfD. Probably was just a technical issue. -- Lenticel ( talk) 02:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Family businesses of Germany

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per others in category - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 06:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:Nazis who died by suicide. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, partially trivial intersection (if their suicide was unrelated to being a Nazi), partially a very narrow intersection (while Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody should suffice). Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:01, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 22:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support as nominated Johnjbarton ( talk) 02:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose The list is of at least minor historical interest. It may not be something a large number of people would be interested in, but remember that "Wikipedia is not paper" and we are not forced to prioritize and choose between one article/list over another because we have virtually unlimited space, unlike a traditional paper encyclopedia. If the list doesn't contain any irreconcilably incorrect information or other serious issue that can't be fixed then what is the point of deleting it? I can think of plenty of potential reasons why someone may be interested to see the information the list provides.
Also, the logic behind "partially trivial intersection (if their suicide was unrelated to being a Nazi)" could also apply to other articles, for example, List of suicides of LGBT people if their suicide was unrelated to their being LGBT. Vontheri ( talk) 14:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I just wanted to point out that the two "support" votes are both basically just WP:PERX (one is even exactly word-for-word "per nom"). I'm the only one other than the nominator (so far, at least) who has actually given any real argument. Vontheri ( talk) 22:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Vontheri, If the rationale provided in a comment includes a comprehensive argument, specific policy references and/or a compelling presentation of evidence in favour of keeping or deletion, an endorsement of that argument may be sufficient. (Example: "Delete per nom. I find their argument that such and such policy is not met compelling")—  Qwerfjkl talk 21:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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@ Qwerfjkl I was told in another discussion that my "keep" comment was invalid based on WP:PERX because I said something like "keep, for the reasons given above by [another editor]". The [other editor] certainly gave a specific argument for keeping the pertinent article. So, that made me think that any vote with a reason given as similar to "per nom" was invalid. I don't want to start a tangent here, but this policy (like so many others) seems to be inconsistently interpreted and inconsistently enforced.
Regardless, to be on topic, my opinion on the deletion of this list remains oppose for the reasons as I already stated. Vontheri ( talk) 22:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Vontheri, There is a difference between supporting a nomination as compared to agreeing with something that a non-nominator has added to the discussion. In the first case, supporting is effectively saying I find the basis of this nomination reasonable, and I do not wish to write a lot to effectively say what you have already said.
Moreover, there have been several other nominations supporting the fact that the intersection between suicide, political orientation, and location isn't defining, with extremely rare exception. [ Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 11#Category:Nazis who committed suicide in Nazi Germany] Mason ( talk) 01:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I'd also like to state that I do not think that the comparison between the page:" List of suicides of LGBT people " and the category Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States is a fair comparison.
1) categories are not lists.
2) even if we were to hold this list to the same standard, there is a long history of literature on the fact that the intersection between sexual orientation and suicide is defining, there is not for the intersection of nazism, suicide, and suicide in the united states.
3) it is worth noting that the question is whether the intersection of the three, is defining, not merely whether nazism and suicide is defining.
4) LGBT is an EGRS category, while being a Nazi is not, so I find this entire line of comparison troubling.
Mason ( talk) 01:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Unless you happened to be a rocket scientist who only became a Nazi to 'advance his career' (which, of course, is a totally acceptable reason for joining the Nazi party. How else can you continue your life-long ambition of making huge explosions? /sarcasm), then execution, imprisonment, managing to create a new false identity, or suicide are generally the outcomes faced by those who were at least greater than low-ranking Nazis during WW2. Note that the leader of the Nazi party himself died by suicide, as did most of the other highest-ranking party members. So, yes, there definitely is an intersection between being a Nazi and suicide, and this has been documented numerous times over. Here are three of many potential examples: [1] [2], and [3]
Is there an intersection of the three that includes the United States? Let's look a bit more closely at the individual entrants in the category. With one exception ( Petras Polekauskas), all of the entrants either do not say the circumstances of their suicide or the relevant person either committed suicide while being prosecuted for their Nazi activities or while incarcerated, again, for their Nazi activities. So it does seem to me like there is an intersection between the three, and given that not all (or even most) of them were actually in prison when they ended their lives, moving them all to Category: Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody would not suffice. There is enough historical relevancy to keep the category, certainly more historical relevancy than this category: Category:Farmers who died by suicide (and I'm not proposing a purge, by the way)
Perhaps creating a new category called "Nazis who died by suicide by country" would be the best path forward, and then merging Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States" into it. As I mentioned before, "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is not sufficient.
By the way, what do you mean by "4) LGBT is an EGRS category, while being a Nazi is not, so I find this entire line of comparison troubling."? Because both LGBT and Nazism are political and "touchy" subjects, in rather opposite directions? Can we please use logic and reason and avoid emotions clouding our judgements while building an encyclopedia? And it seems EGRS categories were created for a somewhat opposite reason than implied, not as "protection" categories, but to avoid censorship.
I virtually never say anything personal about myself on Wikipedia (for an explanation of why, please see my user page), but I will make an exception one time because I feel I've been misunderstood: I lost one of my closest friends I've ever had about ten years ago now to suicide, and one of the largest reasons for his suicide was because he was gay and his family did not know and he feared that they would have a strongly negative reaction if they found out. So I'm not throwing around comparisons between LGBT suicide and Nazi suicides in the way I sense you are implying by "I find this entire line of comparison troubling." I intend to practice the Socratic Method at all times during discussions. That doesn't mean I'm perfect but it is my intent. I intentionally separate collective emotion of society from logic when engaging in "disputes" (I would say "arguments", but fear it would me misinterpreted, as I intend the old, original Socratic meaning of the word "argument") and, hoping I don't sound immodest, but I have been told that I have a gift for dealing with "heavy subjects" in an objective way.
An unrelated issue I found: " Michael Popczuk" redirects to a list that doesn't include or even mention him. I've made a post about it on the relevant talk page. Vontheri ( talk) 20:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Vontheri ( talk) 20:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
So I don't have the bandwidth to unpack your wall of text. But I will say two more things. 1) No one is disputing that the intersection between nazism and suicide is defining. But, there's no need to diffuse by location of suicide. 2.a) my use of EGRS is to make it clear that these categories are very different. One is a historically marginalized group oppressed by the Nazis, and the other is well, Nazis. So I think this attempt to make a subject less heavy falls flat. For me personally, I find the conversation more heavy when marginalized communities are involved (regardless of whether I am a member of that community). 2.b) I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Mason ( talk) 01:27, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I write the length of text necessary to come as close as possible to adequately describing the concepts and ideas in my head. That is an impossible task, as language is much simpler than human thought, but I certainly don't write at length to attempt to create a "wall of text". (it really wasn't that long, and calling it a "wall of text" is a bit demeaning to the effort and thought I put into writing it, but anyway...)
I think the "heaviness" of a topic is a hindrance to objectively creating an encyclopedia, which, as a defining feature of [nearly all] encyclopedias, neutrality and objectivity should be at the absolute core. Why should the oppression or oppressor status of a group of people have anything to do with whether or not we document their suicides or other traits/actions? We should attempt to put aside our personal views or the views of society at large and use the pursuit of truth as a guide. I look to Socrates as a role model in this respect, although he did lose me quite a bit when he tried to justify his own execution.
But, if the heaviness of LGBT suicide cannot be overcome, then, as I already mentioned, what about replacing my use of the LGBT suicide category with the category " Category:Farmers who died by suicide" or " Category:Artists who died by suicide, with nearly the same arguments applied? For example, is it a trivial intersection if their suicide had nothing to do with being a farmer or nothing to do with being an artist? I assume the answer is "no"? So why would it be a trivial intersection in the case of Nazis?
To summarize: We should neutrally document reality. Many Nazis died by suicide. Not all Nazi suicides occurred while that person was in prison, thus the category "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is insufficient. I would be fine with removing this category of Nazi suicides in the United States if it is replaced by a new category called something like "Nazi suicides by country", which is surely of interest to researches of history, but, although it would make things a bit less convenient for some readers, a category simply called "Nazis who died by suicide" would be acceptable in my opinion. But, perhaps my most important point here: having only "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is absolutely not sufficient as not all Nazis who died by suicide committed their suicide in prison custody!
My proposal at this point: delete this category, but *ONLY* if it is replaced by a new category called something like "Category:Nazis who died by suicide by country" or simply "Category:Nazis who died by suicide", given that "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" is insufficient on its own for the reasons I have given. *OTHERWISE* If it is not replaced after deletion, then my vote is simply "keep". Vontheri ( talk) 05:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
No one was disputing the need for a category for nazis who died by suicide. That category already exists. You were the one who brought LGBT suicides into the conversation, making the conversation much heavier than necessary.
In response to your question: "Why should the oppression or oppressor status of a group of people have anything to do with whether or not we document their suicides or other traits/actions?" You had asked me why I found the comparison troubling.
I would strongly encourage you to reconsider using LGBT people as your counter arguments to Nazis. That comparison comes with A LOT OF BAGGAGE, especially when your talking to people from the LGBT community. Mason ( talk) 00:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ LIFE. Time Inc. p. 32. ISSN  0024-3019. Retrieved 20 Mar 2024.
  2. ^ Goeschel, Christian (2006). "Suicide at the End of the Third Reich". Journal of Contemporary History. 41 (1). Sage Publications, Ltd.: 153–173. ISSN  0022-0094. JSTOR  30036375. Retrieved 20 Mar 2024.
  3. ^ Goeschel, Christian. "Suicide in Nazi Germany". academic.oup.com. Retrieved 20 Mar 2024.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: What are people's thoughts on the most recent proposal to transform this into Category:Nazis who died by suicide (which could contain the articles in the current category, Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody, and any other Nazis who died by suicide)?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Despite my seemingly clear memory of previously searching for it, somehow I hadn't even noticed that "Nazis who died by suicide" was already a category. I must be having some sort of Mandella effect moment going on here... So my proposal may have been slightly different had I been aware that the category already existed.
Regardless, If others support that proposal, I'm wondering what people suggest should happen with the subcategories " Category:Nazis who died by suicide in Germany" and " Category:Nazis who died by suicide in Austria‎", as well as the other subcategories listed in Category:Nazis who died by suicide? My view would be keep them as they are, and if consensus is against keeping Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States, then simply add those names to the category "Nazis who died by suicide" without adding to a subcategory, unless of course the individual also fits with another subcategory, such as "Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody".
(Also, not especially relevant to the current discussion, but how exactly are we defining "Nazi" for the purpose of these lists/categories? Is it limited only to people who were members of the German Nazi Party during during and/or prior to WW2, or are we including "Neo-Nazis"? What about former Nazis who renounced their Nazi beliefs but still later died by suicide? I certainly assume we are not including Fascists, which is so often erroneously used as a synonym for "Nazi". While they are both related and share many similarities, they are still distinct far-right political ideologies with defining differences.) Vontheri ( talk) 04:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Adding Neo-Nazis in this category tree would be weird because the whole point here is people escaping their trial or imprisonment for what they did in WWII. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:39, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I wasn't proposing to add neo-nazis, just creating an open question for of thinking for exactly how we should define "Nazi" for the sake of these categories.
The problem with having there only be the two lists, one "Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" and "Nazis who died by suicide in World War II" is that there are also Nazis who died from suicide who committed their suicide after (sometimes long after) WWII and also were not in prison custody when they committed suicide. They didn't all commit suicide for the reasons of escaping trial or imprisonment (or, at the time, execution). That was a common reason, but certainly not the only reason. Some were so deeply indoctrinated into the Nazi ideology that they saw no hope for a future life in a post-war world in which the Nazis lost the war. There was even a wave of suicide among German civilians after the war ended, as well, and they were certainly not people under threat of trial or imprisonment. (See the two references I gave earlier in the discussion written by Christian Goeschel for more information about this.) So having only those two categories would leave out some notable people, for just one example, see: Petras_Polekauskas#Death. Petras Polekauskas died by suicide but was neither in prison custody nor was his suicide during or even shortly after the war, but was just over 20 years after the war ended. Vontheri ( talk) 09:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Articles that would fall in neither of the two categories could still remain in Category:Nazis who died by suicide. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Oh sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were proposing to not have that category anymore "Category:Nazis who died by suicide" and to only have the two categories "Category:Nazis who died by suicide in prison custody" and " Category:Nazis who died by suicide in World War II". I think I would be fine with something similar to what you are proposing; but I see a couple issues that would need to be sorted out first:
    First we would need to determine exactly when a start and end date for "World War II" would be. Are we defining WW2 as ending when Germany surrendered on May 8, 1945, or are we extending to when the entire war ended (ie. September 2, 1945, when Japan surrendered)? The latter definition isn't especially relevant to this context, as we are talking about Germans and not Japanese, and the former definition has the problem that the primary wave of suicides occurred during a period that overlapped with the date of May 8, 1945. Some of the relevant suicides were just before May 8th when defeat of Germany seemed inevitable, but others of the relevant suicides occurred after May 8th after defeat was official. For example, Heinrich Himmler died by suicide after May 8th. Vontheri ( talk) 01:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    So effectively, upmerge the category to Category:Nazis who died by suicide? I'm fine with that. Mason ( talk) 00:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Please forgive my ignorance, but I don't exactly understand what "upmerge" means in this context. Can you elaborate, please? Vontheri ( talk) 06:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    It means that the contents of this category would be added to the parent category (Category:Nazis who died by suicide), and then Category:Nazis who died by suicide in the United States would be deleted. Mason ( talk) 19:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Memorials to A. K. Fazlul Huq

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The result of the discussion was: delete. This one gave me a chuckle :) (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Most of these pages don't belong in this category. Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium is a stadium, not a monument or memorial. Purge the category, and if there are sufficient contents, then rename as proposed. Mason ( talk) 00:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support in principle per nom. The nomination is very carefully phrased, one may also simply say "delete per WP:SHAREDNAME". Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Lol, I forgot that existed Mason ( talk) 00:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 5#Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia

Category:Pre-1900 Pacific hurricane seasons

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Pacific hurricane seasons and Category:19th-century meteorology. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Pre-1900 isn't very helpful or clear. I'm very open for alternative same. Mason ( talk) 22:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tems

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient content for WP:EPONYMOUSCAT. – Fayenatic London 22:34, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, the article and subcategories are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Janów Podlaski

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is a mixture of the Janów Podlaski farm and the village which bears the same name ( Janów Podlaski). Pretty much nothing in here is defined by the village OR the farm, and does not help with navigation Mason ( talk) 19:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment I created this when I was researching the area, just to save anyone else the trouble and also hopefully so that others would add further articles to the category. It didn't seem any different from other geographic categories, but I have no particular view on whether it stays or goes.-- Northernhenge ( talk) 21:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose deletion: Correcting nom, the category is not a mixture, though the article mentions both village and stud. There are no members of this category that are not related to the stud farm; they are all articles about horses born at the stud, or stallions breeding there, or related articles. I suggest renaming the category to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud, and putting it under Category:Horse farms. The Janów Podlaski Stud is well known, more so than the village. The stud is a Historic Monument of Poland. Search google scholar for "Janów Podlaski Stud" and you get hundreds of results. I'm not sure why no one has yet created a wiki article for the Janów Podlaski stud, but there's one in Polish-wiki, pl:Stadnina Koni Janów Podlaski.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 09:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC) Okay, okay, you twisted my arm... I'm working on translating the article here: Draft:Janów Podlaski Stud Farm.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep per I am Grorp. There is enough regional distinction in this area and enough articles to justify a category. Montanabw (talk) 15:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 19:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: rename?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 21:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Comment: Though this might well need renaming, that is not the nomination. There are two oppositions to the nomination and no additional comments during one relist period, so I am unsure why you relisted it. If you want to rename it to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud, I'm sure no one would object.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 22:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename to Category:Janów Podlaski Stud, or perhaps even better, to Category:Horses of Janów Podlaski Stud, per actual content of the category. It almost only contains articles about horses. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I'd be fine with either rename. Mason ( talk) 22:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Not "Horses of", because I can conceive of placing other types of articles in that category.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC) Currently there are 2 towns, 1 man, a horse breed article, and another stud categorized there. Shortly will be the main article for the stud, Draft:Janów Podlaski Stud Farm, and the Polish wiki has 7 or so articles for men associated with this stud that might get translated to English wiki. So naming it "Horses of" would be wrong today, and wrong in the future.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 15:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Horse farms in Spain

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's not need to diffuse horse farms to this degree (as in every country gets a farm). Upmerge categories with one or two members Mason ( talk) 19:26, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Oppose: Note that most of the category members are nation-owned stud farms for breeds of horse originating in those countries, or are facilities of historical interest. These aren't just "farms". The word "splitting" made no sense to me because I checked each one of the articles, and all but maybe two are already in their second "farm" categories. As long as you change them from [Category:Horse farms in _______] to Category:Horse farms (so they are not lost), then I'm okay with the change.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 08:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC) Changing 'comment' to opposed' based on Montanabw's rationale as well as my own reading since I wrote the above.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 23:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose: The stud farms in these European nations are quite distinct entities from mere “farms.” The historic importance of these places was often linked to training animals for military purposes. It would be sort of like merging “military contractors” into “factories.” Montanabw (talk) 15:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Though someone named these categories "horse farms" in English Wikipedia, the correct term in English is "stud farm". Our word "farm" connotes agriculture related to food production. However, stud farms were the genetic source for transportation and other elite activities, never a food source, which puts them in an entirely different category to other types of "farming". I'm not sure how other [non-English] languages handle it and whether there is a common word like "farm" tying together two different types of concepts (food versus transport) or if there is a clear distinction in those languages, but a quick skip through google translation tells me they don't. (en:stud farm/farm, sp: ganadería/granja, fr:haras/ferme, de:Gestüt/Bauernhof, hu:ménesbirtok/Farm, pl:stadnina koni/gospodarstwo rolne)   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 18:14, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • According to Stud farm, they are for breeding rather than for transport. I'd say that still makes them a type of farm. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Facepalm Facepalm. For breeding (genetics), not raising as agricultural commodities. From Farm: with the primary objective of producing food and other crops; it is the basic facility in food production. The WP:WikiProject Transport editors would argue that horses were primarily "power"; transportation machines for riding, or pulling objects. Also, cats, dogs, tigers, and many other animal species are "bred" but not "farmed". "Breeding" is not identical to "farming", though farming livestock certainly involves breeding. I don't know why you are arguing this.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 23:04, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Reports of puppy farms (on Wikipedia as Puppy mill) use the term "farm" in a negative way, whereas the term dog breeder (can't quickly find an article other than Dog breeding) has more of a "stud" connotation. In the UK, I've never heard anyone say "horse farm" but if they did, I'd assume either they were being negative, so equivalent to puppy farm, or neutral about food production in countries where they eat horses. Regarding transport, there must have been a term used to describe mass production of horses when they were used in enormous numbers for transport, but I don't know what that term would have been. Farm might have made sense then. I agree that stud is a much better term than farm for specialist horse breeding as distinct from mass production. -- Northernhenge ( talk) 11:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Grorp Do you have an alternative target for merging? Mason ( talk) 18:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Smasongarrison: I don't see why it needs merging at all. Is there some policy requiring there to be 2 entries before you can create a category similar to other categories on the subject? For those of us who work in the "horse breed" topic, we know our breeds by their place of origin. If you remove each country category that only has 1 or 2 entries, and lump them all together under Category:Horse farms, then we would have to click on every single one of them to find, say, stud farms in Russia. I don't think removing any of these subcategories improves anything, and you will instead lose what I would consider valuable information. It's not like these stud farm articles are overcategorized. I don't think there's anything in WP:Categorization or WP:Overcategorization that says we can't have subcategories with a single entry in them. I consider the subcategorization by country valuable information. You may not be interested in horse breeds, history/origin of horse breeds, or breeding in various countries, but some people are and this is not fancruft... it's history. I went through every article and made sure they weren't categorized in both Farm and Horse farms (unless they were both).   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
So the purpose of categories is to help navigation. But I would like to know where you thing these categories should belogn. If these categories do not belong in farms, where should they be nested? @ Grorp Mason ( talk) 01:35, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I like how they are currently done. But maybe we're not not talking the same language? I understand H:CATS. There is nothing in WP:CFD that explains "splitting". WP:CI was zero help. And I read through WP:CAT. There just doesn't seem to be any explanation of "splitting".
My interpretation of your original suggestion was to remove/delete the [Category:Horse farms in countryX] if the category has only 1 entry, and recategorize its article with [Category:Horse farms] plus [Category:Farms in countryX]. If that's not what the proposal meant, then please explain "propose splitting". If I understood you correctly, then no... don't do it.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 04:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
1) The nomination is to "upmerge for now". There is a problem with how one of the tools works, that it labeling as spilt instead of merge.
2) I don't understand why you aren't answering my question. It seems like much of your argument is that Horse farms aren't farms. I am trying to understand where the category should be nested if does not belong in farms. Hence I have asked: "If these categories do not belong in farms, where should they be nested?" You saying that you like it as is, is not helpful. I am trying to understand your perspective on the category. This is a sperate issue than whether the category gets upmerged or not. If the current structure is wrong, then I would like to understand what is the problem. Mason ( talk) 01:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
(1) Well that's messed up; split and merge are opposites. But thanks for explaining that.
(2) Stud farm articles belong more to Category:Horse breeding and studs than they ever would to Category:Farms, but Category:Horse farms is already under both. And I'm not sure why it's important to not also have them under Category:Farms. Maybe the solution is with diffusing/nondiffusing subcategories (a concept which is still hard to wrap my head around but seems to be related to this issue), making Category:Horse breeding and studs the primary 'parent' category of Category:Horse farms, and Category:Farms one of those alternative 'parent' categories of Category:Horse farms.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 07:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep all no compelling reason in the nom. As the above discussion shows, the naming here is dubious. "Horse farm" is just not a thing in British English, and has no article. A search on the term shows many places that were "horse farms" in the US & elsewhere in the 19th century or before, when mass-breeding of working horse was a thing. Current places that are notable tend not to use "horse farm", even in the US, and can be divided into stud farms or racing stables, with some overlap. Probably our categories should be re-arranged this way. Johnbod ( talk) 14:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    My experience in this area is not significant, but my impression was that a horse farm usually (but not quite always, especially in terms of simple searches; see "one-horse farm") means a stud farm, and horse farming means that you have an ordinary old-fashioned farm with a horse to pull the plow (as contrasted with tractor farming). This is sufficiently confusing that I could wish for completely different names in these categories. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 22:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Why was this relisted? The nomination is based on "not needed" and there are two simple "agree per nom" votes, and four very strong "oppose the nom" votes with reasoning. Though there is some discussion that something could be done with the categories, there is still a clear consensus of opposition to the nomination. So why has this been relisted?   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 22:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Comment. There's not a "clear consensus of opposition". This is likely headed toward non-consensus. Mason ( talk) 22:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    The outcome is the same.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 01:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Warren Spector

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Video games designed by Warren Spector without prejudice against recreating Category:Warren Spector when more articles are available. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: More useful than an eponymous category. If the new name is agreed, only Warren Spector should be removed, but he and the category should remain linked. – Fayenatic London 21:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Both categories could be useful. For example there is Category:Hideo Kojima and multiple sub-categories for video games and other article types. Category:Video games designed by Hideo Kojima is a sub-category with game pages. So we could use both for Warren Spector too. -22:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC) Artanisen ( talk) 22:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Rename, apart from the eponymous article all content is about video games. No objection to restoring this category after a few more articles not about video games are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Crusader video games

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only 2 games so not really a franchise. Both articles are interlinked and in plenty of other categories already. – Fayenatic London 21:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 00:06, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Upscale areas of Dhaka

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. May be suitable for a list if it can be supported with citations from WP:RS. – Fayenatic London 21:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Super Bowl halftime show sponsors

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not WP:DEFINING. – Fayenatic London 21:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Thank you for nominating this. I got busy IRL and was going to come back to do this one, too. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 22:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as a non-defining category. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Srijanx22 ( talk) 22:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Super Bowl halftime show performers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. WP:PERFCAT is a very strong argument, giving those in favor of deletion the numbers as well as the strength of arguments. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Is this a defining quality of these acts? Overcategorization per WP:PERFCAT. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 20:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep. We put readers first over editors in Wikipedia. This is not overcategorization. They list the performers who performed in the Super Bowl Halftime Show. Abhiramakella ( talk) 22:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
"We put readers first over editors in Wikipedia. " I don't understand what you mean by this. Mason ( talk) 22:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:People from Ghardaïa

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:30, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. only one person in this category, which is unhelpful from navigation Mason ( talk) 05:53, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • There are still only three biographies in the category and none in the parent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Drum Corps Associates corps

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Category:American expatriate male actors in England

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The result of the discussion was: merge. No convincing argument that these are defining (etc). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: New category, intersection of where someone is from and where they live and what they do and what their gender is. WP:NONDEF or WP:NARROWCAT or at least some form of WP:OVERCAT? I just realized there are others like these, I may go searching for them and add them later, or others are welcome to. Largoplazo ( talk) 11:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Are they really "largeish"? EGRS's examples are categories that would have over a thousand entries if unsplit, not a mere hundred or so. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 06:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:American female winemakers

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The result of the discussion was: keep. I am convinced by the arguments in opposition, who provided evidence that being a female winemaker is a defining characteristic. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. I don't think this meets the criteria under EGRS at the intersection of gender, occupation, and nationality. I've already added everyone to an American women category. Mason ( talk) 04:55, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, trivial intersection between occupation and gender. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Hardly "trivial" here. It's not even as if there's a global Category:Female winemakers to merge into. Johnbod ( talk) 15:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Johnbod How is it defining, under EGRS? Mason ( talk) 18:34, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    What is this EGRS you keep talking about? Would renaming to Category:Female winemakers help with the bureaucracy? It seems to me we ought to have such a category. Johnbod ( talk) 18:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Probably Wikipedia:Categorizing articles about people, which says: “As another example, a female heads of government category is valid as a topic of special encyclopedic interest, though it does not need to be balanced directly against a "Male heads of government" category, as historically the vast majority of political leaders have been male.” So if historically the vast majority of winemakers have been male, there is an argument in favour of keeping this category. It should be a member of Category:Female winemakers though, and then – for example – we’d need Category:German female winemakers etc etc. There are presumably too many of them to put everyone into a single category. -- Northernhenge ( talk) 20:21, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Not, it seems, with articles on Wikipedia. A global Category:Female winemakers would, probably should, be set up, to keep the gender aspect alive. It would (see below) not be enormous. Johnbod ( talk) 01:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Northernhenge has found the gender specific example. But more broadly, @ Johnbod, Wikipedia:EGRS requires that the intersection be defining. In other words, "where that combination is itself recognized as a defining topic that has already been established in sources as academically or culturally significant in its own right." So there has to be evidence/sources to support the argument that the intersection between being female and being a winemaker is defining. Mason ( talk) 20:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    The paucity of articles in the other national winemaker cats is very strong evidence for this: only 2-3 in Italy (including Countess Cinzano, who inherited), amazingly only one in the 68 Australians, and she married an owner. The 67 French are similar - a couple of inheritances, & only Christine Barbe, whose career has all been in California. The only Spanish female is "María Isabel Mijares García-Pelayo (1942 – 10 February 2024) was a Spanish oenologist. She was considered the first woman in the profession and the first woman to run a winery in Spain. [1] It would be nice if we could disentangle "vineyard owners" from "winemakers" who know one end of a syphon pipe from the other, but I don't suppose we can. Johnbod ( talk) 01:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep as defining, a Google books search for female winemakers finds four books that look like reliable sources, all from 2000 or later.
  • Crushed by Women: Women and Wine (Jeni Port, 2000)
  • Women of Wine: The Rise of Women in the Global Wine Industry (Ann B. Matasar, 2006)
  • Women Winemakers: Personal Odysseys (Lucia Albino Gilbert, ‎John C. Gilbert, 2020)
  • Women of the Vine: Inside the World of Women Who Make, Taste, and Enjoy Wine (Deborah Brenner, 2007) TSventon ( talk) 03:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
And do those sources refer specifically to American women?
The conundrum here is that, per Johnbod, we don't actually have a generic "female winemakers" category, and we need to establish whether that is an oversight first. Because it's difficult to establish that being a woman in the winemaking industry is a particularly notable thing in the United States relative to the wider world. And even then, the reason that we don't have a blanket "women in occupation X" exception is because the main reason for most of those categories to be small is the historical tendency for society to discourage women from running businesses, which is more a society thing than a women thing. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 06:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Not really; once we have "a generic "female winemakers" category", as we now do, whether a diffusion to a US national category is viable is simply a matter of numbers. No special sources for US examples are needed, though it is utterly unsurprising that WhatamIdoing has very kindly been able to find some (see below). And no doubt US women figure largely in the non-specific books TSventon found above, for which also thanks. I think our work here is done. Johnbod ( talk) 04:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I agree that the main issue is whether there should be a generic "female winemakers" category, so I have created Category:Women winemakers. American women winemakers are likely to be most numerous as the US has the largest wine industry in an English speaking country and there are a lot of American editors on en Wikipedia. TSventon ( talk) 14:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks! It is easy to see they are the most numerous, & at present no other national sub-cats seem likely to survive the Cfd Eye of Mordor. Johnbod ( talk) 23:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, at least for now. There are books like Wine Country Women of Napa Valley (ISBN 978-1944903183) and journal articles like doi: 10.1111/1468-0424 "Donne in the Vineyards: Italian‐American Women in the California Wine Industry" that are exclusively about women making wine in the US. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 03:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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References

  1. ^ Lázaro, Agapito Ojosnegros (11 February 2024). "Fallece a los 81 años Isabel Mijares, enóloga pionera y exponente del sector del vino". El Norte de Castilla (in Spanish). Retrieved 11 February 2024.
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Category:Napoleonic looting of art

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge these categories are extremely overlapping Mason ( talk) 03:45, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Assassinated Burundian monarchs

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Burundian kings and Category:Assassinated Burundian people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one monard in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 20:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Did you check PetScan to see if there are more? Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 22:06, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I did not check petscan in this case. But I did look through all the assassinated Burundian people to see if there were any other monarchs I had missed. Mason ( talk) 01:28, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. Traditionally some "by nationality" categories only have one entry. This is because the full by nationality tree is intended to contain all nationalities intersecting with the topic. I think leaving out categories from the parent Category:Assassinated monarchs by nationality only because they have one or few entries provides for incomplete information regarding the topic of assassinated monarchs.
The intention is to build it up collaboratively in time to include all nations where at least one monarch was assassinated. I do think that having a separate category with only one or few entries in a parent category "by nationality" aids in navigation because the reader can simply browse through the nationality category looking for relevant assassinated monarchs. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 00:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge, also because it is odd to ghettoize monarchs of a nationality in an assassinated subcategory and separate them from non-assassinated monarchs. This is more something for lists. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Honestly, it makes me think we should mark assassinated categories as non-diffusing so that assassinated folks aren't ghettoized. Mason ( talk) 01:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I don't agree with this drive to limit diffusion of categories so much. There are niche interests of readers for a variety of reasons. From specialized researchers to specific interests or intellectual needs. Although I understand NotEverything, I also understand that diffusing assassinated monarchs by nationality is reasonable because assassination of monarchs is of historical interest and the assassination of monarchs in their nations is something notable in its own. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 00:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Thinker78 What do you think about marking the assassination categories as non-diffusing for monarchs of that nationality? Mason ( talk) 00:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Example? Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 02:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I don't understand your request for an example, but I will try my best.@ Thinker78 For example, Assassinated Burundian monarchs is a diffusing category of Burundian monarchs, which means that if a Burundian monarch is assassinated they are removed from Burundian monarchs category and placed in the Assassinated Burundian monarchs category. However, because there is only one assassinated Burundian monarch, that means that monarch is isolated from the rest of the monarchs. And it makes them hidden away from people interested in Burundian monarchs, regardless of their cause of death. If the category were not diffusing, then the assassinated Burundian monarch would also be in the Burundian monarch category, making it easier to find Burundian monarchs, but also allowing people who are interested in assassinations to find that information. Mason ( talk) 19:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I understand your concern. The solution would be listing the monarch in both the "Burundian monarchs" and the "Assassinated burundian monarchs" categories. I point out that your concern is something I have often thought about when placing a page in a subcategory, removing it from a parent category. That's why I initially left pages in both a parent category and a subcategory and I still have mixed feelings about the situation.
    According to WP:PARENTCAT,

    articles should rarely be placed in both a given category and any of its sub- or parent (super-) categories.

    I guess this case could fit under "rarely", given your concerns. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:21st-century European male musicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: We don't need to diffuse male musicians by continent Mason ( talk) 20:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Anti-Zionism by former country

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Category:Words and phrases by language

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Category:Vandalism on Wikipedia

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Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina jujutsuka

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. SMALLCAT has been deprecated, and thus the opposition was rebutted fully. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
adding to bundle per (@ Marcocapelle:) Mason ( talk) 00:20, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 13:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Dual merge, per nom. Many sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support all as many siblings have now been added to the nomination. Thank you Mason! Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Dyne Foundation

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Even if this is an organization Dyne Foundation, there's no need to add software to the category. Mason ( talk) 13:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi @ Smasongarrison - I see your nomination, but I am not sure why deletion? Do you think there should be between Category:Dyne Foundation > Dyne Foundation software >...actual individual software pages like it is with Category:Google for example...I am not sure that applies better then category Category:Blender Foundation (also Dutch also FLOSS). Curious to hear your arguments and recommendations! Have a good Easter weekend :-) Zblace ( talk) 06:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I proposed deletion rather than merging or renaming because I think this category doesn't meet the criteria for WP:defining. A good rule of thumb is whether the category name would be used in the lead of the article (by a random editor, not merely the category creator). Consider Devuan's lead, (and ignoring the fact that the Dyne Foundation isn't mentioned anywhere in the text).

Devuan is a fork of the Debian Linux distribution that uses sysvinit, runit or OpenRC instead of systemd.[3][4][5][6] Devuan aims to avoid "lock-in" by projects like systemd[7][8] and aims to maintain compatibility with other init systems to avoid detaching Linux from other Unix systems.

I can't envision a plausible scenario in which the Dyne Foundation would be mentioned in the lead. "The fork is maintained by the Dyne Foundation." But I don't see how that would be relevant, nor am I sure that that statement is true. If the Dyne Foundation had brand recognitation, maybe... but even that would be hard to fit it. It doesn't seem relevant to the lead. Mason ( talk) 19:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Camping World

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient content for eponymous category, containing only one company and an example of its sponsorship. – Fayenatic London 13:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Honored Science and Technology Figure of Ukraine

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable award category. Merited Science and Technology Functionary of Ukraine, piped as "Honored Science and Technology Functionary of Ukraine", is one of many redlinked entries listed at Honorary_titles_of_Ukraine#Merited_titles. – Fayenatic London 12:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Portland Duffs

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per NARROWCAT. User:Namiba 12:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Webtoon webcomic stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete both. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:58, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete template and category, both unused. – Fayenatic London 12:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:TV3 (Norway)

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:58, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Moved article per WP:NCBC without RM so can't speedy. Category should move for the same reason. Gonnym ( talk) 11:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province activities

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Category:People convicted of attempted voluntary manslaughter

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American people convicted of manslaughter. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 13:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one person in this category, upmerge for now. Mason ( talk) 02:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Danish pharmacists

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:21st-century pharmacists. No prejudice against further nominations of the pharmacists-by-century category tree. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 15:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one person in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 01:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Why are pharmacists sorted by century at all? I'm inclined to suggest deleting entirely.-- User:Namiba 00:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is a good question but deletion would require a broader discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Paleontology portal

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March 25

Category:Murdered CIA agents

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Assassinated CIA agents. No consensus to change "agents" to "officers". (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: More accurate. Agents refers to someone recruited to spy, rather than an agent handler referred to as a case officer. This category includes agent handlers who were employees of CIA, rather than people the CIA recruited to spy on their behalf. Longhornsg ( talk) 00:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Alt rename and re-parent to "Assassinated" instead of "Murdered" and purge articles about more casual murders. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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I like the alternative per marco. Mason ( talk) 01:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:American theatre people by populated place

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 00:48, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think that we should repurpose this category to contain all of the theater people form Cleveland rather than delete it. Mason ( talk) 22:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Dramatists and playwrights from Cleveland

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The result of the discussion was: split and merge. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 00:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no need to diffuse American dramatists and playwrights by city. Notably this is the _only_ city category. Mason ( talk) 22:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Acquitted evangelical leaders

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A trivial intersection. User:Namiba 19:44, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages used in recruitment of Central Armed Police Forces of India

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is all kind of language trivia and this is content that is better covered in the relevant articles and in Category:Official languages of India. PepperBeast (talk) 19:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Combined authorities

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Combined authorities and combined county authorities. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The article Combined authorities and combined county authorities has been amended to include combined county authorities as they are similar to combined authorities. Other articles have been amended to reflect this change. The category should reflect this in the same manner, as it currently includes pages linked to it which are CCAs but appear in this category as CAs. TheBishopAndHolyPrince ( talk) 13:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Ok, but add "in England" (or is it UK?) for clarity. Johnbod ( talk) 14:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The main article does not include "in England". The template Template:Combined authorities and combined county authorities does not either. I would therefore propose to leave out "in England" so that it matches with the template, the article and the other text on the category page. 15:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC) TheBishopAndHolyPrince ( talk) 15:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Categories often need clearer names than articles, as here. Johnbod ( talk) 04:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Probably better the other way round as the article is confusing attempting to cover 2 separate things, the article needs splitting not the categories merging. Keith D ( talk) 22:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I don't think it ne_eds to affect this discussion but the nominator has been indefinitely blocked so don't expect any response to questions. Liz Read! Talk! 04:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, I didn't think he'd last. Johnbod ( talk) 04:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Rename to match the main article. I don't see why "in England" is necessary. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Follow article, in this case rename category as nominated. If the article is split, per User:Keith D, then by all means follow that too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Use England as this will collect various authorities that have been variously combined -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 05:12, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Culture by city in China

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category excludes all cities in Taiwan, which has a separate category: Category:Culture by city in Taiwan. Therefore, it's not all of 'China', but the PRC specifically. It should therefore also be re-parented from Category:Chinese culture to Category:People's Republic of China culture (now nommed for speedy renaming to Category:Culture of the People's Republic of China per C2D main article Culture of the People's Republic of China). Compare how the parent of Category:Culture by city in Taiwan is Category:Culture of Taiwan, not Category:Chinese culture. NLeeuw ( talk) 09:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment: Those who voted for the China–PRC merger never bothered to figure out what to do with topics as such. Topics associated with culture of the PRC, e.g., should certainly be fed to a category similarly named but such scenarios have simply been ignored. 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 07:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply
There are topical subcategories for the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Serbia and Montenegro, the United Provinces of the Netherlands (the Dutch Republic), the Orange Free State, the Transvaal Republic, the United Province of Canada, the Kingdom of Great Britain, the Confederate State of America, Pakistan, the United Kingdom, the United Arab Emirates, and so on and so forth. Why can't there be subcategories for the PRC? 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 16:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • What about Indian foo and Foo of the Republic of India, for instance? The former may according to contexts covers Pakistan and/or Bangladesh and that the latter is a subset of the former. 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 08:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • From when on would it be right to equate the Soviet Union with Russia, or Malaya with Malaysia, or England or Great Britain with the United Kingdom, for the purpose of categorisation on Wikipedia? 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 08:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Roman villas in Germany

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one villa in here, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 03:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep: Seems useful in connection with Category:Roman villas by country.-- Ipigott ( talk) 06:27, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep as part of a wider scheme Category:Roman villas by country. Plus others may well be added over time. Johnbod ( talk) 14:32, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The category can be recreated when there are more pages to add. I really tried to find anything that could be added, and turned up nothing. Mason ( talk) 16:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:11th-century Indian medical doctors

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Personifications in mythology and religion‎

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 20:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something that it does not differentiate them at all. Put it more precisely, it is not defining that they are the personification of something, it is only defining what they personify, and Category:Deities by association suffices for the latter purpose. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support, if only because most if not all polytheistic deities are personifications of various concepts, and I agree that Category:Deities by association serves that purpose better. AHI-3000 ( talk) 22:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, these well-populated categories, per nom that "it happens so often that deities of these ancient and medieval mythologies are personifications of something" seems to be a fact and observation in favor of keeping the pages instead of a negative blow to their existence. Personifications are a "thing", not an abstract thought or whim. Randy Kryn ( talk) 11:04, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: those categories are sufficiently and clearly defined within their contexts in mythology and folklore, since all of them were/are considered to be inseparable from the things they personify. Personifications have been a thing since a very long time, and are easily recognised and differentiated. Moreover, all those categories have enough pages that merging them would do the opposite of cleaning up. Deiadameian ( talk) 10:11, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep: The issue may be the misunderstanding and misuse of the category. Most deities in Greek and Roman myths are not personifications; they embody or possess certain powers (and "associations"), but they are both cultivated as deities and treated as superhuman figures who play roles in narratives (myths). Personifications, however, are properly single-focus divinities such as Virtus or Fides (deity) who embody abstractions such as virtues or ideas; these are not actually "mythological" figures because they have no myths (no stories). They have temples, for example, or serve as icons, as on coins. In that sense they are part of Roman religion, not Roman mythology. I don't know what the nominator means in the phrase "something that it does not differentiate them at all." Medieval personification is also not the same as ancient, since personifications are allegorical or mystical aspects within a monotheistic tradition; they are not deities but are part of what we might neutrally call Christian mythology in a technical sense of narratives that explore universal truths. "Lady Liberty," by contrast, is an example of a secular (or secularized) personification. Cynwolfe ( talk) 14:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This would very strongly reduce the content of these categories. It is (in quantitative sense) much closer to delete than to keep. I just wonder if it would be maintainable like that. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tamil clans

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Social groups of Tamil Nadu. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: New category outside existing hierarchies, with only one member page. Category:Clans includes Gurjar clans, Rajput clans and Vellalar clans, but I believe those are the only other categories for "clans" within Category:Social groups of India. – Fayenatic London 17:38, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Funerals in Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer now that all contents are in a "State funerals" subcat. – Fayenatic London 16:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Latter Day Saint Style Guide Rename

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The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against a fresh nomination with analysis of what terms reliable sources use. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 23:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: According to the official style guide for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, When a shortened reference is needed, the terms “the Church” or the “Church of Jesus Christ” are encouraged. The “restored Church of Jesus Christ” is also accurate and encouraged. DarthTanner421 ( talk) 16:34, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This is not a convincing argument. You need to make a case that reliable sources commonly use the expression "The Church of Jesus Christ". Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I second Marco on this. Unless you can demonstrate that this is standard practice or in numerous non-affiliated credible style guides, I oppose this rename. Mason ( talk) 23:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Rob Gronkowski

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Contains only Super Bowl LIII and Super Bowl LV, insufficient content for WP:EPONCAT. – Fayenatic London 16:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Private space missions

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 14:03, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect. Space mission redirects to Spaceflight#Terminology. – Fayenatic London 15:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now as it is a very small category. Hypothetically this could become a set category while Category:Private spaceflight would serve as a topic category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep it is merely not being populated. All the missions currently in Category:New Shepard missions would qualify for this category (though not necessarily all of them in the future, if a government charters a spaceflight); as would most of the missions in Category:SpaceShipTwo except the one chartered by the Italian Space Agency and the ones that did not reach space; as would all the missions in Category:Axiom Space; and all the space missions in Category:SpaceShipOne not including the ones that did not reach space. There's also the Russian movie filmed on the ISS, which would be its own space mission, in addition to riding with people on other missions. -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 21:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Translators from Quebec

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Category:Alumni of Diocesan Girls' School

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The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against a nomination of the entire tree. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:52, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Typo. Diocesan Girls' School is a girls' school and the word "alumnae" should be used instead. Prince of Erebor（ The Book of Mazarbul） 10:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose. We don't use the female version for alumni for categories. Mason ( talk) 23:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply

My impression is that all the names follow the convention for co-ed schools. Mason ( talk) 23:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:LGBT people by identity

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Category:Russian comedians by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:13, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one city in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 01:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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March 24

Category:Nightclubs in Brussels

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:35, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge for now as it currently has only one member article. – Fayenatic London 22:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Identical twin male child actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. No need to diffuse by gender. The novelty is in the intersection of twinness and age, not their gender. Mason ( talk) 21:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Identical twin child actors by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Only one nationality in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 21:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Identical twin politicians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between sibling status and occupation. Mason ( talk) 21:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Saint Anthony the Great abbeys

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Category:International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Semiconductor technology. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category:International Technology Roadmap for Semiconductors currently contains one other article ( International Roadmap for Devices and Systems is called a successor to the eponymous article's topic) besides the eponymous article. Although WP:OCEPON is imprecise, this category doesn't currently have "enough directly-related articles" within it that indicate the category was justified in its creation. Pngdeity ( talk) 18:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ministers of Ilunga Government

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I looked through Category:National cabinets, and we don't seem to categorise ministers by cabinet membership. I think it would be akin to WP:PERFCAT. – Fayenatic London 18:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, if we would adopt and expand this concept (hypthetically) it would lead to overcategorization of politicians articles. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:19, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Mexican-born author

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete, non-standard category. The member page is now in Category:Writers from Mexico City. – Fayenatic London 17:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 21:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Members of the Confederation of Tribal Associations of Katanga

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge new category per article name CONAKAT. Both member pages are biographies of people who were politicians. – Fayenatic London 17:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Swiss evangelicals

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:16, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, "evangelical" has a very specific meaning in American Christianity which does not apply to these Swiss people. See also Evangelical (disambiguation). Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:46, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The supposedly "very specific meaning in American Christianity" is exactly the same in most European Protestant countries and their languages, as Evangelicalism is at pains to stress. Looking at the contents of the cat, all Calvinist church people, it does seem to apply fine. Why do you think it does not? Johnbod ( talk) 14:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Evangelicalism is typified by a personal born-again experience and the term wasn't used this way before the 18th century. It is not equivalent to Calvinism, and Calvinists in mainland Europe are hardly ever calling themselves Evangelical. Lutherans in mainland Europe do call themselves Evangelical, but still not with the same connotation as in the Anglo-American tradition. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Unconvinced - the English term born again may be relatively recent, but the concept is not - see also Evangelicalism again. Historically, the vast majority of Swiss Protestants are Calvinists (the Lutherans having been agressively chased off the patch very early on). We certainly shouldn't be treating "Evangelicals" as an exclusively English-speaking group; even for here that would be outrageous. Johnbod ( talk) 19:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It does not have to be exclusively English-speaking as I suppose there are a lot of evangelical converts around the world due to the work of American (and possibly British) evangelical missionaries. But that has nothing to do with the Swiss people in this category. Again, Evangelicalism isn't synonymous to Calvinism and mainland European Calvinists do not identify as Evangelicals. The closest to Evangelicalism we had in mainland Europe is Pietism. I agree that the word Evangelical is older than the 18th century, that is exactly why it is in the name of most Lutheran churches, but that has no relationship with the meaning of the word nowadays. The article Evangelicalism describes how the meaning of the word has evolved. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:31, 9 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:French Baroque viol players

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between style, nationality, and specific kind of designer. Mason ( talk) 01:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose re French Baroque viol players. These musicians constitute a distinct sub-genre of music and the reader who starts with e.g. Marin Marais would like to easily find other persons who belong to the same school. If Wikipedia would allow to easily search for people who belong to categories Baroque musicians AND viol players AND French musicians it might be redundant, but that's not the case, right? even if it was possible, this category is much more accessible. Meizy ( talk) 08:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Stong Oppose both, and please don't mix different noms this way! What we should do is delete the ridiculous Category:French Baroque people, and the Italian and Spanish equivalents - oh, I see you just set these up today - bad idea. We could rename along the lines of the main article, French formal garden, but French Baroque garden style dominated Europe for over a century, & is highly defining. Unsurprisingly, all of the French viol players except for two contemporary Early Music players, are in the Baroque sub-cat, and it is useful to keep them separate. This was another speciality of the French Baroque period, which effectively ended with it. Gardeners are not normally treated as "artists", and I don't think we should start now. I can't for the life of me see why it is ok to have Category:French Baroque painters (which it is), but not ok to have Category:French Baroque garden designers - please explain your thinking here. Johnbod ( talk) 03:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Johnbod First, I didn't see this as different noms, hence the bundling. 2nd, I only made the French Baroque one to match the rest that already existed. 3rd, neither of these French FOOian categories had non-nationality specific categories. There is no Baroque garden designers or Category:Baroque viol players. An alternative would be to create/broaden these into parent categories, which I would be fine with if there's sufficient content. Mason ( talk) 14:12, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Or better yet, do nothing at all! You haven't answered my question on the grounds of the nom. One could easily set up Baroque garden designers and Category:Baroque viol players, but I think the first would only have a French sub-category, plus a handful of English and other names. The whole Category:Baroque people tree should be deleted, or at least renamed to something like Category:People in the arts during the Baroque period, which is what it is trying to be. Nobody ever uses this term, and we don't have any similar categories - Category:Gothic people (ok - for Goths), Category:Mannerist people, Category:Neoclassical people, Category:Romantic people, Category:Impressionist people. Johnbod ( talk) 14:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    What do you mean? "you haven't answered my question on the grounds of the nom." You asked me to explain my thinking; I did explain my thinking see 1,2,3. Furthermore: the nomination says non-defining intersection. So I don't know what "grounds" you're asking for. But I did answer the question you asked. Mason ( talk) 21:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Polish painters of Jewish descent

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Jewish Polish artists with no prejudice against speedy renomination for a merge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category to be able the broader vocation of Jewish Polish artists (instead of being a specific kind of artist). If not broadened, the category should be renamed to Jewish Polish painters. Mason ( talk) 05:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Massacres of men

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, the main article of the category is Androcide but the articles in the category aren't related to Androcide. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:52, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 12:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose, that's a really weird nonsensical reason to just suddenly delete a well-populated category with 141 pages. Besides we also have Category:Massacres of women. AHI-3000 ( talk) 20:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete per nom. [T]he articles in the category aren't related to Androcide is an excellent reason to delete a category, no matter how populated it is. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:24, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Boxing matches in Las Vegas

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Category:Fictional coffeehouses and cafés

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The result of the discussion was: purge and merge to Category:Fictional restaurants. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There is only one article that belongs in this category, Monk's Café. The rest are either redirects or not actually about the fictional restaurants themselves. Easily contained within Category:Fictional restaurants. (Oinkers42) ( talk) 16:53, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Purge and merge, quite a few articles are about works about coffeehouses which is something else. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Panamanian men

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have one category in here. Sole category member already in FOOian-century Panamanian singers‎ Mason ( talk) 16:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:14th-century Chinese male actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge as suggested by Marcocapelle. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I think we should repurpose this category to include actresses/male actors of any nationality. Right now there's only one or two people in each, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 18:43, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment: Is the 13th-century Jurchen empire considered part of China and the peoples considered Chinese? 61.244.93.97 ( talk) 06:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Not really, but which of these actors were active in the Jurchen empire? Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Montreal Metro artists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. If someone wants to make a list, the contents are Frédéric Back, Jordi Bonet, Charles Daudelin, Jean Dumontier, Marcelle Ferron, Pierre Granche, Hector Guimard, Julien Hébert, Raoul Hunter, Jean-Paul Mousseau, Osterrath, Yves Trudeau (artist), and Claude Vermette. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A non-defining characteristic. User:Namiba 23:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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All of the artists who are from Quebec and/or Montreal are now appropriately categorized. Several artists are not from Quebec.-- User:Namiba 17:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as non-defining. No objection to a list if someone wants to create one. - Eureka Lott 18:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Expressways in Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China

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Category:Julian Edelman

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only contains the lead article and Super Bowl LIII, insufficient for an eponymous category. ( WP:EPONYMOUS) – Fayenatic London 08:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Andorran people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:21st-century Andorran people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one category in here, should be broadened to not be limited to occupation Mason ( talk) 05:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Inactive anime conventions

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Canadian LGBT people by province or territory

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge to Category:People from FOOian province and a relevant Category:Canadian LGBT people child category (as suggested by Mason). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Although these were previously deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 February 27#Category:LGBT people from Canada by province or territory, that was a full decade ago, and thus I don't feel comfortable just speedying them without a new discussion.
This is, however, still a violation of WP:OCLOCATION -- there is no defining relationship between one's province of birth and their LGBT identity per se, but the parent category (which is already well-diffused on other criteria) doesn't need this for size control purposes either.
As always, just because the United States does something does not automatically mean Canada has to match it: the US is almost ten times larger than Canada by population, and thus has at least ten times as many articles to worry about, so the existence of an "X by state" scheme does not mean Canada automatically has to imitate it with an "X by province" replication. Many of the people so categorized, further, do not possess notability claims that are all that closely tied to their province of origin: Jann Arden and k.d. lang and Tegan and Sara are not notable as Albertans per se, they're notable as national or international pop stars whose birthplaces have almost nothing to do with their grounds for notability; Betty Baxter attained her notability in British Columbia, not in Alberta; Jeffrey Bowyer-Chapman is notable as a Hollywood actor, not as an Alberta actor; and on and so forth.
These, further, were created by an editor who has a history of being a serial overcategorizer who's had a lot of things taken to CFD, and does not have any established record of being any sort of expert in what categories Canada does or doesn't need.
These just don't pass the tests that would justify this scheme: the intersection of these people's province of birth with their LGBTness isn't defining in and of itself, but the parent category is already so well-diffused that it doesn't need this for size control either. Bearcat ( talk) 02:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support in principle. But, because non of the categories are tagged with non-diffusion, we'll need to ensure that these people are in the relevant parents. Thus they should be selectively merged into Category:People from FOOian province and a relevant Category:Canadian LGBT people child category. Mason ( talk) 03:13, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
No problem with it as such, but I'm not entirely clear on what merging is particularly needed. Everything here would or should already be in appropriate LGBT and/or geographic categories anyway, so I don't really know what would be missing in most cases, though obviously people should be added to anything that is genuinely missing. Bearcat ( talk) 17:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Concur with Bearcat, there isn't really anything to merge to. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:ISIS-K terrorist incidents in Afghanistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:ISIL terrorist incidents in Afghanistan and Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. No need to have a category with a single event. Mason ( talk) 01:28, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment It's not just this category. There are parent categories that just hold this category. Kind of like a house of cards. Liz Read! Talk! 03:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Attacks on public buildings in 2024

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: duplicate category Mason ( talk) 01:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Emigrants from British North America to the United States

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Emigrants from the British Empire to the United States. The opposition was squarely rebutted by Bearcat, giving those in support of a merge the numbers as well as the strength of arguments. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary level of intermediary categorization between a category and its natural parent. As I've noted more than once in other past CFD discussions, "British North America" was never a polity in its own right -- it was just a collective geographic term for all of Britain's colonies in North America, but each of those colonies was its own standalone thing and there was never any overarching entity called "British North America" that they were all subordinate parts of. That is, it was not like "England + Scotland + Wales + Northern Ireland = United Kingdom" or "Massachusetts + New York + New Jersey + California + Wyoming + 45 other US states = United States", it was always like "Thailand + Vietnam + Laos + Cambodia + Burma = Indochina" or "Jamaica + Haiti + Montserrat + St. Kitts + the Bahamas + Puerto Rico + Cuba = Caribbean". An umbrella term for multiple separate things in a region, not a "parent" term for subordinate parts of a unified thing.
There is exactly no point in history at which it was ever incorrect in any way to refer to a resident of Toronto or Montreal as "Canadian", or correct in any way to refer to them as "British North American" instead, because that simply isn't how those terms worked: Canada, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Jamaica, et al were always each their own things, and "British North America" was just an umbrella term, and was never the nationality of any Canadian, New Brunswicker, Nova Scotian, Newfoundlander or Jamaican in any sense.
Of about 80 people in here when I found it, every last manjack one was directly recattable as Category:Pre-Confederation Canadian emigrants to the United States or one of its subcategories -- so that category can just directly stand as its own direct subcategory of the merge target, without needing this as an intermediary, because "British North America" never existed as an intermediary thing between "pre-Confederation Canada" and "British Empire". Bearcat ( talk) 01:17, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom, and the dozens of CFDs that have been surrounding this point. Mason ( talk) 01:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale is not wrong, and nominator is incidentally highly knowledgeable on the subject of Canadian history. Upper Canada, Lower Canada and the united Province of Canada each had their own legislative assemblies, New Brunswick had its own legislative assembly, Nova Scotia had its own legislative assembly, Newfoundland had its own legislative assembly, and on and so forth — but never was there ever any such thing as the "Legislative Assembly of British North America" at all. Each colony had its own direct one-on-one relationship with the motherland, and there was never any overarching "British North America" layer of government between them. Bearcat ( talk) 19:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • For the record, I would not object to renaming the subcategory to British North America, but that would require a different discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Bank bombings in Afghanistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, this is an extremely narrow cat. Only one event is in this entire tree. So I'm proposing deleting the parent cats at the same time. Mason ( talk) 01:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The same category creator created 15 separate categories for one article on a military documentary film. And I could never track down what article that was because the categories were all empty except for containing other empty child categories. They are now all CSD C1'd. Liz Read! Talk! 03:17, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Attacks on civilians during the Israel–Hamas war

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. Vaguely defined. This category has considerable overlap with Category:Civilians killed in the Israel–Hamas war Mason ( talk) 01:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, we do not have any other "attacks on civilians" categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Former Ikawa Line Stations

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be a different spelling of Category:Stations of Ōigawa Railway. No other sub-cats of Category:Railway stations in Japan by company have "former" sub-cats except for the special case of Category:Kabe Line suspended stations. – Fayenatic London 21:14, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Post–World War II synagogue architecture

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, overlaps with Category:Synagogues by year of completion. In contrast to what the parent category suggests, the content is not about a particular architecturale style. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 21:11, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Puerto Rican luthiers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American luthiers. Marcocapelle's argument allows us to sidestep the question of what Puerto Rico counts as in terms of being American. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category. (The person is already in Puerto Rican music educators, so only one target is needed) Mason ( talk) 21:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Civil servants from Winnipeg

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category for an overly narrow intersection of characteristics. There's no defining relationship between civil service and being from Winnipeg per se, so the only basis for this would be if the parent category needed diffusion on size grounds -- but with only three people here and only four in the parent, that hasn't been established. (Upmerging to Category:People from Winnipeg not needed, as all three people here are already in other subcategories of that as it is.) Bearcat ( talk) 20:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Réunion

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Category:Asian American music

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:American musicians of Asian descent. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Other than Asian Americans in music, all the articles here are people. Current title could infer types of music specifically made by Asian Americans, and I'm not sure any such genre exists. Couldn't really think of anything else that would go in here other than more people. Adding the hyphen as C2C with the rest of Category:Asian-American culture. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 20:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Comment. The category already exists, and is called. Category:American musicians of Asian descent. Also if the category isn't merged, then it should be renamed to Asian-American music. Mason ( talk) 20:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Brain cancers

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason ( talk) 20:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Brain cancer survivors

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. We don't have other cancer survivor categories. Mason ( talk) 20:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:LGBT criminals

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is an extremely problematic category, under WP:EGRS. We do not need an intersection of sexual orientation and crime. Similar categories have been deleted at the intersection of crime and race. Mason ( talk) 19:54, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Filipino police generals

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The one member makes no mention of "general"; I have already removed it from Category:Filipino generals. – Fayenatic London 17:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 03:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Director General of National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category created by inexperienced editor with only one member and no parents. – Fayenatic London 17:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings in the Falkland Islands

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. The IP's opposition is not particularly cogent: they are already in the tree of the sovereign power. And I will add that personal attacks (The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations) never make one's argument stronger. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:29, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one church in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 14:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate any of these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose in the cases of the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar. Dependent territory categories don't get under the categories of the sovereign powers this way. The nominator gotta read more to make responsible nominations. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 11:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Sigh... this is probably the same IP ( Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:185.104.63.112_reported_by_User:Smasongarrison_(Result:_Blocked)) that's been making a mess. @ Bbb23 is there a mechanism to report this as a ban evasion? Mason ( talk) 14:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Confusingly in the case of Reunion further above on this page, IP went in the opposite direction. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Yeah, I think that the IP has much stronger feelings about HK and Macao because they're in Hong Kong. Mason ( talk) 19:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Maliseet and Category:Maliseet people

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:49, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Maliseet is becoming more of an outdated name for the peoples; Wolastoqiyik is its official name and is becoming more & preferably used including by the area's governments: New Brunswick, Quebec, and Maine. Wolastoqiyik is also preferred by the Canadian Encyclopedia, Dartmouth, CBC, etc. Additionally, my move discussion for the main article under this topic (formerly 'Maliseet') to 'Wolastoqiyik' received unanimous support and was successfully moved, so it makes sense to move the relevant categories as well. This discussion also includes Category:Maliseet people. B3251 ( talk) 14:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:ISIS (K) terrorist incidents by continent

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Islamic State – Khorasan Province terrorist incidents. Note that the target category was speedy renamed. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one continent in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 13:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Guayana Esequiba

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Guayana Esequiba is not an administrative division of Guyana and shouldn't be categorized as if it is. It is the Venezuelan name of the area that is disputed by Venezuela. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Guayana Esequiba one of the geographical areas of the Guianas, like it is the case with the British, French and Dutch Guianas. It can be compared to the Patagonia or the Rocky Mountains, they don't have to be limited by administrative dvisions.
    The categories currently has articles about its flora and fauna. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 11:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    • The comparison with Patagonia does not hold because the name Patagonia is used in the country itself and in many other countries. In contrast, Guayana Esequiba is only used in Venezuela. It is a matter of NPOV. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
      • Not used only by Venezuela. It's just the Spanish name for the region. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 11:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC) reply
        • Whether or not it is a region at all is a matter of POV. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete, irredentist claim rather than a useful category tree. Looked to see if we had a similar one for Taiwan Province or Tskhinvali Region and we do not seem to. CMD ( talk) 12:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: There is indeed a Taiwan Province on parts of the island of Taiwan and the islands of Pescadores, which don't cover Taipei since 1967 and Kaohsiung since 1979. It still exists on paper even after it was streamlined. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 11:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Adding plants and animals into a category about a terroritorial dispute doesn't make much sense. The category is about a geographical region. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 16:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    That is exactly why I said "related material". If necessary, Category:Fauna of Guyana, Category:Fauna of the Guianas, Category:Flora of Guyana and Category:Flora of The Guianas can be used. As explained above and in the linked move discussion, "Guayana Esequiba" is a term promoted by Venezuela. WMrapids ( talk) 17:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks football games

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun ( talk) 23:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is 191 subcategories and 5 articles to be precise. A dual merge would make that 190 subcategories and 6 articles. I can't see how that hurts navigation. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
None of the 5 are about an individual game.-- User:Namiba 13:50, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Palestinian people by descent

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Clearer and less ambiguous, the category:Palestinian people encompasses all individuals of Palestinian ethnicity. This name, "Palestinian people by descent," might be interpreted as including those individuals of Palestinian ethnicity whose ancestors were of a different ethnicity or nationality. However, this category actually comprises people from the State of Palestine, categorized by their descent.The term 'Palestinian' may also refer to people from the Palestine (region) or those from Mandatory Palestine, which are similarly categorized by descent. Stisorder ( talk) 20:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose. This rename changes the scope of the category for the worse, IMO. These people are Palestinians, period. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. We also have Category:People from the State of Palestine. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose many of the people in these categories are not from the State of Palestine. It goes without saying that Palestinians have been a largely refugee and diasporic people since 1948. If we remove those who are not from the State of Palestine, we would be essentially erasing their Palestinian heritage.-- User:Namiba 17:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I briefly looked through these categories and didn't find anyone not from the State of Palestine. -- Yorkporter ( talk) 17:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Here are seven examples I found through a non-exhaustive search Mai Masri, Lisa Taraki, Elyanna, Roberto Kettlun, Alexis Norambuena, Camilo Saldaña, Pablo Tamburrini. There are many footballers who represent Palestine because of their descent and are otherwise citizens of other countries such as Chile.-- User:Namiba 00:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Indeed, as User:Namiba said, there are many ethnic Palestinians who are not citizens of the State of Palestine. However, as far as I can see, we do not classify people by ethnicity and descent‎ simultaneously. See also similar case here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023_December 26#Category:Arab people by descent. Place Clichy and Nederlandse Leeuw probably know more whether we categorize people based on the shared aspects of their ethnicity and descent. Yorkporter ( talk) 17:48, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support per nom. Note: I was pinged. We only categorise people based on their descent if it is known and relevant; this may differ from their citizenship (or subject-hood) or nationality. There have been endless discussions about when it is "relevant", which need not be repeated here. Suffice to say that ethnicity and descent tend to be a lot more controversial than someone's legal affinity to a jurisdiction (unless the status of that jurisdiction is disputed). NLeeuw ( talk) 17:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose as this changes the scope. People with a defining link to Palestine in other eras also deserve to be called Palestinian. This includes for instance people at the time of the British Mandate, and not just the Arabs. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    @ Place Clichy A Category:People from Mandatory Palestine by descent already exists. Review who is actually included now in the categories being discussed. Yorkporter ( talk) 19:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    That was just an example. The State of Palestine was declared in 2013 IIRC. There were Palestinian people before then. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
I also wanted to add that Category:Palestinian people of Israeli descent is absolutely the wrong way of framing it. The Arab Palestinian population within the state of Israel are largely self-defined as Palestinian. An Arab citizen of Israel who represents the Palestinian national football team is Palestinian, not of Israeli descent. So this category should be deleted, period.-- User:Namiba 18:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Here I agree with you. Category:Israeli emigrants to Palestine should be deleted as well. Yorkporter ( talk) 21:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep Israeli emigrants to Palestine. 203.186.171.150 ( talk) 12:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep all. Does Palestine overlap entirely and congruently with the State of Palestine? 203.186.171.150 ( talk) 12:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose per User:Namiba and User:Place Clichy's rationale and examples. There are many Palestinians who were not born within the current borders of the State of Palestine. These things are not always clear cut, especially in this case. – Starklinson 05:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:10th-century Danish clergy

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:20, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have one person in here. Mason ( talk) 04:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete is fine. Let's just close this one out. Mason ( talk) 19:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Slovenian geriatricians

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Category:Executed American revolutionaries

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason ( talk) 04:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pre-computer cryptographers

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The result of the discussion was: split as follows:

Thanks, (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: The current name isn't very helpful (not that mine is much better. But I'm trying to contrast Category:Modern cryptographers). I would love better suggestions. Mason ( talk) 04:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The above alternative better aligns with the existing category trees. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:54, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Support alternative. Even better! Thank you :) Mason ( talk) 14:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:15th-century Indian politicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge (or delete, whichever term you fancy). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:42, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is a redundant layer that's unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sammarinese historians

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sammarinese writers. (non-admin closure) – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 12:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category with only one person in it, isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 00:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sammarinese women poets

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse women writers yet, with only one poet in here. Mason ( talk) 00:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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36 to 42 days old

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Category:Government agencies established in 1484

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to have categories by year when there's only one year in this entire century. It's not helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 23:36, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Erythrotes stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Stub category for a genus with a single species. Too small a category to be useful Plantdrew ( talk) 22:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Template:Erythrotes-stub

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Stub template for a genus with a single species. Too small a category to be warranted Plantdrew ( talk) 22:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Exiled politicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge all to Category:Exiled politicians. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmgerge for now. There's no need to have just one (or two) politicians in these categories. Mason ( talk) 20:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Languages officially written in Indic scripts

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Languages written in Brahmic scripts (the target category was renamed). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The scripts are mostly not so much official as just conventional, and I don't think the distinction is particularly useful. PepperBeast (talk) 17:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Aphex Twin songs

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Category:Grand Crosses of the Order of Vasa

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The proper name for this grade of this order. Richiepip ( talk) 15:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Academics of the College of the Resurrection

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Category:Children of Ottoman sultans

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Category:Ice hockey people by state

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:34, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article each; merge, for now, with parent category. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 15:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose The primary category tree for these articles is the ice hockey people tree and American Ice hockey people by state. Merging to the generic sportspeople category would remove the articles from the more important category tree. DJSasso ( talk) 01:19, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The two category trees serve different purposes. The American ice hockey players is based on their international playing status/nationality. The other tree is based on where they are born. They portray two different sets of information which yes most often overlaps but doesn't always. - DJSasso ( talk) 18:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Ice hockey people from Kansas

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Omnis Scientia ( talk) 15:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose The primary category tree for these articles is the ice hockey people tree and American Ice hockey people by state. Merging to the generic sportspeople category would remove the articles from the more important category tree. DJSasso ( talk) 01:20, 16 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The two category trees serve different purposes. The American ice hockey players is based on their international playing status/nationality. The other tree is based on where they are born. They portray two different sets of information which yes most often overlaps but doesn't always. - DJSasso ( talk) 18:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Moroccan educators by century

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one century in it. Mason ( talk) 04:20, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:12th-century Danish historians

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. If people wish to pursue the creation of a writers category, the members of the 12th century category are Sven Aggesen and Saxo Grammaticus, and the member of the 13th century category is Saxo Grammaticus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now there's only one or two people in these categories, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 01:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Generals from Kavajë

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only two generals in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 13:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Buildings damaged by the 2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per main article move. Article's name is now 2023 Al Haouz earthquake. Main category is nominated below. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 12:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake

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Category:Auckland rugby league clubs

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per its parents Category:Rugby league teams in New Zealand and Category:Rugby league teams by populated place, and per all the other subcats of the latter. Grutness... wha? 11:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Yagi clan

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, only two articles and they are not really about the clan. The two articles are also directly connected in Category:Historic Sites of Japan. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:47, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Indian independence activists from Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, Bangladesh did not exist for a long time after these people were independence activists and West Bengal at least not before the independence of India. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 20:07, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Question: What about maintaining separate categories for East and West Bengals? 61.244.93.97 ( talk) 09:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Please read the nomination rationale, it is anachronistic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Colonial United States (French)

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:New France. No prejudice either for or against creating further categories. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per article New France. I have not listed this at speedy in case I might oversee something. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century Danish metalsmiths

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. There's only one page in each, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason ( talk) 05:53, 6 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Now keep the 18th century but delete the 21st century. The latter consists of articles about people who were mainly active in the 20th century, per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I have now added four new biographies and weeded out a couple of the oldest people who did not seem to ghave been very active after the turn of the century. The four new biographies are all about people who are either still active or have been so until fairly recently. Ramblersen2 ( talk) 11:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Category:Software licenses

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The result of the discussion was: rename ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be a topic category not a set category. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:French forts in the United States

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Category:Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons

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Category:Dallas Crusaders seasons

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun ( talk) 02:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Hong Kong

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse by denomination of church. Mason ( talk) 00:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I would not object to upmerging to the Chinese categories. Hong Kong has become part of China even if it has a bit of autonomy. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This isn't relevant. There are dependencies which are possessions of different sovereign nations and got little or no autonomy. 188.211.233.131 ( talk) 14:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Agree. What matters is the fact that Hong Kong is now part of China. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • No it isn't part of that in the same way like provinces or province-level municipalities. It's just like Curaçao and Sint Maarten that are not part of the Netherlands in the same manner as Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba are. 46.229.243.187 ( talk) 08:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Curaçao is not part of the Netherlands at all. Hong Kong is part of China. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Populate with what? If there are any articles that belong here, feel free to add them right away. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • As an IP user you can vote as many times as you want but don't expect this will be taken seriously by the closer of the discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Major League Baseball players with one career hit

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Non-defining. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 12:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per Arbitrary Cat User:Namiba 00:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Defining characteristic. Let'srun ( talk) 19:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    How is it defining? This seems very arbitrary to me. Why not two career hits? Mason ( talk) 20:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Letsrun. One hit only players are talked about in media, two not so much. - DJSasso ( talk) 14:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Trivia is often discussed in the media. WP:CATDEF says "The defining characteristics of an article's topic are central to categorizing the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to[1] in describing the topic, such as the nationality of a person or the geographic location of a place." Does the fact that a player managed only a single career hit rise to this level?-- User:Namiba 15:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete how is this defining? I am getting zero relevent results when I search major league baseball players with one career hit -wikipedia. Do any of the keepers have links to reliable sources which discuss one hitters as such? House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 17:29, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 21


March 20

Category:National Heroes of North Korea

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Category:Cleveland Indians

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Teams who stay in the same location but change their name don't have their own categories - minus the personnel - and it should be the same for this. The only other similar tree I found was the Angels' three name changes and I've nominated them for merging as well. Merge these and also redirect. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Eureka Lott, @ Namiba, pinging from related Cfd(s). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Tampa Bay Devil Rays owners

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one article and he was the owner of the same team. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 17:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Los Angeles Angels

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:32, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
more Angels categories for merging
Nominator's rationale: merge and leave a redirect per WP:OVERLAP; while they went through a few nickname variations, the team did not change locations so there is no need to have three seperate trees for what is essentially the same team. Note: I've purposefully left out the field personnel because they always have a category. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 16:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian association football cup seasons

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Category:20th-century Japanese short stories

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Japanese short stories and Category:20th-century Japanese literature. The sole keep !voter was rebutted by Mason, who pointed out that WP:SMALLCAT has been deprecated (which means potential for growth is no longer a reason for keeping a category). (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:28, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge to all parents. Category has only one member and no similar siblings. – Fayenatic London 14:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose It seems pointless and counter-productive. It's also based on an assumption that there are no other such stories, rather than the temporary situation of en:WP not yet having written anything about them. We ought to move forwards, not back. This sort of action is counter-productive and very discouraging to those who might otherwise be writing those articles. Andy Dingley ( talk) 22:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Upmerge for now. If more pages are created or can be found, then the category would be helpful. But encouraging page creation isn't the purpose of categories. And, I not sure that a lone category would encourage or discourage a page creator. (fyi: Potential for growth is no longer a criteria for keeping a category (see WP:SMALLCAT) Mason ( talk) 01:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Film articles

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The result of the discussion was: merge to the parent categories. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category not used anymore at Template:WikiProject Film. Upmerge the only sub-category. Gonnym ( talk) 09:29, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Gonnym: do you want to merge to Category:Film articles needing attention, Category:Pages incorrectly tagged for a WikiProject, and Category:WikiProject Film tracking categories (all parent categories), just a subset of those, or something else entirely? You officially proposed deleting the category, but your comment suggests you envisioned a merge. Thanks, House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Category:Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Film articles is not linked to from anywhere (unlike what it still claims to in the category text). Category:Pages using WikiProject Film with unknown parameters should not be left without a parent, so re-parent it to this category's parent categories. Gonnym ( talk) 14:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Assyrian geography

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The intended purpose of the category seems to be "places relevant to the history of the Assyrians", assuming Assyrian continuity. However, the name of the category seems to incorrectly suggest that Assyrian geography is separate from non-Assyrian geography. A similar category does not exist regarding any other ethnic group that I can find (for example, Kurdish geography and Armenian geography don't exist but instead have Geography of Kurdistan and Geography of Armenia). Therefore, I think this category should be purged of modern content and re-focused to be about the geography of the Assyrian empire. I don't believe recategorization will be necessary because all the items for which Assyrian is defining will already be in relevant categories (such as all the diocese articles). ( t · c) buidhe 07:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Geography of West Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not needed because the subcategory is already in Category:Foreign relations of West Germany. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 13:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • The subcategory is already part of the tree of these two merge targets. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Fishing in West Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not needed because the subcategory is already in Category:Merchant ships of West Germany. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 13:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2020s Japanese superhero films

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:10, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge with Category:2020s superhero films as well. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Hello Kailash29792, This was closed two days ago as non-consensus (with 2 relists...). Maybe ask the user who did the close to relist one last time if they want (so that you don't need to ping other participants and re-format all these discussions (1990, 2000, 2010s...) so that they can be discussed together, as was the case for the first Cfd). Thanks. (If that is not what happens, I am obviously still against the merge, and also disapprove of the speedy renom, especially with the 4 cats discussed individually again.....). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Oppose for now. I think waiting at least a month is a good idea, given how recent the discussion was. Mason ( talk) 13:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Ok, I agree the timing was bad, but given the success of the Indian version (all cats such as 2000s Indian superhero films being deleted recently) I thought this was in a similar position. On 20 April 2024 IST, I will open a mass CfD to upmerge all these categories. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Kailash29792: would you like to withdraw this nomination for now? (please ping on reply) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes. And how do I do that? Simply say Withdraw in bold? Cos I'm doing that now. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Churches of Sabirabad district

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. it's unhelpful to have a single church building. If not deleted/merged, the category needs to be renamed Mason ( talk) 05:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wives of Hasan ibn Ali

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The result of the discussion was: merge as in the updated nom. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 01:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to only have two wives in a category. Mason ( talk) 05:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Added to nom. Mason ( talk) 13:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:Villages of Sabirabad district

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. unhelpful for navigation to only have one village in this category. Mason ( talk) 05:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, all villages categories should be merged to populated places regardless of their size, for consistency with many earlier closures in the past year. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:2010s Japanese superhero films

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Category:2010s Japanese superhero films

Category:People from Qalaqayın

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one person in this village's category. Mason ( talk) 04:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:1990s Japanese superhero films

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 28#Category:1990s Japanese superhero films

Category:Mass shootings in West Germany

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 03:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection between political regime/era and type of violence. Morever, There's only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 03:06, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st-century mayors by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. On the numbers, there are three people who support a merge to two who oppose. However, consensus is not a vote. Looking at the strength of the arguments presented, it is clear that those in support of a merge have refuted the argument presented by the opposition. No "by country" categories are being merged; the "by country" categories are being moved. Therefore, there is consensus to merge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 11:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Redudant category layer that's unhelpful for navigation Mason ( talk) 01:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:18, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep There are already 31 different categories by U.S. state in Category:20th-century mayors of populated places in the United States. By merging the categories, as requested in the nomination, all categories for all mayors anywhere in the globe would be lumped together in one worldwide category by century. Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. This is a layer that is anything but redundant and would be extremely helpful for navigation. What am I missing here that the encyclopedia and its readers are better off having all categories for all mayors on Earth thrown together into a single parent category for every hundred-year period? Alansohn ( talk) 16:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This is an apparent misunderstanding of the nomination. The US categories aren't nominated for merger and there is no lumping together. The only thing the nomination achieves is removing an empty "by country" layer. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    I agree that this seems like a misunderstanding. But I think the other important thing is that there are no other country categories in here right now. The nomination reflects that right now there are no other categories to jumble up. ". Mayors in the United States would be jumbled together with mayors from Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Uganda, once those categories are created. " The nomination explicitly states "for now" because there are no other categories to jumble up. Mason ( talk) 00:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    So long as eg. Category:21st-century mayors of populated places in the United States‎ is not deleted, the United States mayors will not get jumbled together with Ukrainian majors. The parent category would instead have the United States category alongside Category:21st-century mayors of populated places in Ukraine. CMD ( talk) 07:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, redundant layer at the moment, given no alternative mayor category trees. CMD ( talk) 07:30, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Alansohn. 121.202.28.169 ( talk) 11:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
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  • That category is no longer needed and will be deleted as empty. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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