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Nominator's rationale: Not sure why we even have this, it seems to be an extension of the POV issues plaguing Mr. Gyurcsány here and it also seems to curiously exclude Fizdez, his primary opposition.
Allan Nonymous (
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Delete, we do not have an opposition category for every separate government.
Marcocapelle (
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Delete Some of the political parties listed here have nearly 40 years of history. Some of the members were probably not even alive during Gyurcsány's term in office. Not a useful categorization for parties.
Dimadick (
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Support in principle, but... should we then also delete
Category:Opposition to Viktor Orbán? Both categories were created last year and seem to serve a similar purpose.
NLeeuw (
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@
Allan Nonymous what do you think as nom? You might not have seen this. There could be a reason for having both, having neither, or having one but not the other. Technically speaking, Gyurcsány has been in "opposition" to Orbán since 2010, and since 2022 the opposition leader, so if we mean formal parliamentary opposition, the scope of the
Category:Opposition to Ferenc Gyurcsány should be limited to 2004 to 2009, while
Category:Opposition to Viktor Orbán could be scoped to 1998-2002 and 2010-present. Then again, maybe we should call it "Opposition to the Orban Government(s)" or something instead of "to Viktor Orbán" personally.
NLeeuw (
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That is a fair point I can agree with. As I said, There could be a reason for having both, having neither, or having one but not the other. I'm not saying we should treat them equally (Orban is in a much more authoritarian position than Gyurcsány ever was), but I do think we should compare the two categories, and then make a decision.
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Category:Native American characters in video games
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Delete as duplicative, as nom states. Nothing lost in deletion anyways, as there were many instances of the newer version being wrongly or poorly implemented anyways. (Many DEFINING violations.)
Sergecross73msg me 21:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep there's a difference between these two categories. "characters in video games" are notable characters in the game while "protagonists" are lead characters. By comparison, there is a category called "
Category:Black characters in video games" and also
Category:Video games featuring black protagonists. Native American characters in video games are a lot rarer and deserve categories to help people find them, raise awareness and for research.
Artanisen (
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But that's just it. How often is a game's non-protagonist side character's race going to be an DEFINING trait of a game on a whole? And as ferret notes, it doesn't make sense that your category is framed as about characters but was mostly applied to video game articles, not character articles.
Sergecross73msg me 21:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree that in some games the Native American character plays a (very) minor role, while in others they are an important part of the story and gaming experience. If their role is too minor then they can be removed from the category. For example in the Red Dead Redemption games and Red Dead Revolver, the Native American characters play a significant role in the storyline, but they aren't protagonists. As in defining, well the interaction between the cowboys and Native Americans is an essential part of the main story and activities. -
Artanisen (
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The counter-argument categories are populated with characters. This one is populated with video games, except for one (Nightwolf), who is in the duplicative category already. --
ferret (
talk) 23:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I put Nightwolf in "Native American characters in video games", because he's an important character in Mortal Kombat, but not a protagonist. Other characters are described in the articles of the video games. If necessary more information can be added about the characters. This game
Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, the title of the game "Guardian of Light" refers to the Mayan warrior named Totec. Totec is playable in cooperative play. So Totec is one of the most important characters in this game together with Lara Croft. In
Shadow Hearts: From the New World, the protagonist is Johnny Garland, while Shania is his female counterpart.
Red Dead Redemption and
Red Dead Redemption 2, each have a couple of important native American characters. Without these characters the story wouldn't work. -
Artanisen (
talk) 09:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, if it is not about a protagonist then it is nor a defining characteristic.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment - when I first read this category title, I thought it was for Native American characters who debuted in video games, not for video games with Native American characters. Maybe the category could just be redefined.
(Oinkers42) (
talk) 14:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree, but I believe that the necessary reworking would pretty much lead us to the category ferret noted already exists.
Sergecross73msg me 15:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. Note that
Category:Fictional Native American people in video games already exists for categorizing characters (not necessarily the games they are part of), although note hatnote that this category is for A) American Indians in the United States, and B) Is not for fictional characters merely "coded" with some American Indian attributes. I suspect that this category might be a better use of what the category creator intended.
SnowFire (
talk) 15:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes,
Category:Fictional Native American people in video games has a lot of overlap with this category. Usually the term "character" is used for video game characters instead of "Fictional people". Native American usually refers to indigenous people from the USA. It could also be used as a broader term for indigenous people from the Americas (North, Central and South America). -
Artanisen (
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This shows further duplication with existing categories that can (and do) serve this purpose. --
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Category:Recipients of Indian civil awards and decorations
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Nominator's rationale:rename to clarify that this is about
feminist philosophy rather than a category of philosophers who happen to support feminism.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom. Same logic as the rename for Atheism writers to writers about atheism.
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Category:International Booker Prize winners
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Category:Feminist theologians
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Nominator's rationale:rename to clarify that this is about
feminist theology rather than a category of theologians who happen to support feminism.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom. Same logic as the rename for Atheism writers to writers about atheism.
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Category:Recipients of the Sahitya Akademi Fellowship
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Category:People associated with identity politics
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Delete per
WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH. It's also typically an accusation against an opponent, which is usually denied. Few people will proudly advocate for identity politics themselves. So per
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT it should also be deleted.
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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category contains only one item.
PepperBeast(talk) 20:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom but add the article to the parent categories manually.
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Category:Recipients of the Padma Shri in literature & education
Category:16th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Africa
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Nominator's rationale: There's not enough content to justify this level of diffusion. Please be aware that the IP making all of these requests is being extremely disruptive on CFD. And is evading their
blockMason (
talk) 15:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
With eight and six articles respectively (and more to come) would you consider differently?
46.229.243.187 (
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Keep. Define what's "not enough content". There are many churches in the oldest former colonies which date back to the 17th or 16th century. Meanwhile @Samasongarrison please clarify your point about IP being disruptive.
46.229.243.187 (
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Qwerfjkltalk 19:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Considering the current content of the categories, I am withdrawing my support.
Marcocapelle (
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That's fair, especially now that there's content.
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Category:16th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Portuguese Macau
Nominator's rationale: This seems anachronistic. These forts were not "in the United States" when they were built and only became so later on.
User:Namiba 02:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment if these forts still existed at the time Canada was established, then the category is correct. And there was also the colony of
Canada, New France and colony of
United Canadas, British North America --
65.92.247.66 (
talk) 05:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment if these forts still existed at the time that the USA took over the territory, then they are correct. Such as many forts acquired in the Louisiana Purchase. Or any ruins/museums that still exist today --
65.92.247.66 (
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This is not only a proposed renaming but also an extension of scope; forts in New France that were not in provinces which became the United States will be covered as a result.
61.244.93.97 (
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Which is perfectly fine. New France has never been divided in an American and a Canadian part.
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Qwerfjkltalk 12:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
PS: An Alt Rename might be Category:Former French forts in the United States or Category:French-built forts in the United States, but I think that requires renaming the underlying main article
List of French forts in North America first.
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Nominator's rationale:delete,
Rathore is not a defining characteristic of these articles.
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✗plicit 13:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, cleanup, possibly rename. Looks defining for many pages in it. -
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Nominator's rationale: Merge categories with only one or two members to all parents. Rename the last
WP:C2C. –
FayenaticLondon 08:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support per nom
Mason (
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Oppose. Sint Maarten and Curaçao are not part of the Netherlands. For the BES islands merge the categories to one named Caribbean Netherlands instead so that they are subcategorized under both the Netherlands and the Caribbean categories.
46.229.243.187 (
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@
Fayenatic london: It doesn't sound nice to lump together the BES islands with those of the CAS islands.
46.229.243.187 (
talk) 14:29, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
When you use terms that may not be common knowledge, please link them, e.g.
BES islands and
CAS islands.
Sorry if IYHO it doesn't sound nice to use Dutch Caribbean, but setting up a separate sub-hierarchy for Caribbean Netherlands would require many perpetually small categories. The best hierarchy we have is Dutch Caribbean. –
FayenaticLondon 17:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm no expert on the history or current politics, I'm just looking at how our categories are structured at the moment. Would you support a split of the whole
Dutch Caribbean hierarchy? If so, I suggest you make a nomination to split some representative categories at the top levels. But until that has happened, the tiny sub-topic of medical schools should follow the existing hierarchy. –
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Qwerfjkltalk 19:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep Category:Medical schools in Sint Maarten and keep it under Category:Medical schools in the Caribbean and Category:Medical schools by country (along with Category:Medical schools in Curaçao and Category:Medical schools in Aruba). Group medical schools of the BES islands under Caribbean Netherlands and keep them under both Category:Medical schools in the Caribbean and Category:Medical schools in the Netherlands.
46.229.243.187 (
talk) 16:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Fix the spelling and
Caribbean Netherlands (mnemonic: it's named after the
Carib people) comprises the BES islands.
Just as obiter dicta, what should be done with
Category:Dutch Caribbean? Split/rename the whole hierarchy to "Kingdom of the Netherlands" (including Curacao, Aruba, Sint Maarten) and "Caribbean Netherlands" for BES? After that, Dutch Caribbean could be disambiguated between Caribbean Netherlands and the historical
Islands of the Netherlands Antilles. –
FayenaticLondon 11:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
You are right about my spelling mistake and, more importantly, right about the way to solve this problem more generally.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Just as obiter dictum, should Category:Dutch Caribbean be kept just to hold a small number of subcategories and topics that are common to both BES and CAS (or ABC and SSS)?
46.229.243.187 (
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It's "non-existence" yet it's a good collective term to refer to these special municipalities altogether. It's somehow like referring to an additional province although they aren't.
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A category for medical schools in the
Caribbean Netherlands would be too small, as there are only 2 members in the current cats for Bonaire and Saba. If there is no consensus to merging to the intermediate level
Dutch Caribbean, then revert to my original merge proposal, but omit the Netherlands category in the case of Sint Maarten. –
FayenaticLondon 15:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Category:Citizens of Hungary through descent
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Nominator's rationale: Merge to Transgender and medicine. This category is a based on the ICD-11 equivalent of
Gender dysphoria, and is a odd carve out of the parent category. If not merged, I think it should be renamed to Gender dysphoria because the bulk of the actual contents are about dysphoria, not incongruence.
Mason (
talk) 00:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Disperse, the category contains an odd mix of transgender-related and non-transgender-related articles and redirects.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Upmerge for now per nom. It is indeed an odd mixture. As nom says,
gender incongruence is a redirect to a section in
ICD-11, where it is called a synonym of
gender dysphoria, but the article
causes of gender incongruence claims it is the cause of gender dysphoria. At any rate, it's irregular to have a "causes of X" article if there is no main article of the same name. It also supports upmerging to a category where at least the article
gender dysphoria itself can be found.
NLeeuw (
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Disperse per Marcocapelle.
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Nominator's rationale: Not sure why we even have this, it seems to be an extension of the POV issues plaguing Mr. Gyurcsány here and it also seems to curiously exclude Fizdez, his primary opposition.
Allan Nonymous (
talk) 22:11, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, we do not have an opposition category for every separate government.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Some of the political parties listed here have nearly 40 years of history. Some of the members were probably not even alive during Gyurcsány's term in office. Not a useful categorization for parties.
Dimadick (
talk) 14:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Support in principle, but... should we then also delete
Category:Opposition to Viktor Orbán? Both categories were created last year and seem to serve a similar purpose.
NLeeuw (
talk) 19:04, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Allan Nonymous what do you think as nom? You might not have seen this. There could be a reason for having both, having neither, or having one but not the other. Technically speaking, Gyurcsány has been in "opposition" to Orbán since 2010, and since 2022 the opposition leader, so if we mean formal parliamentary opposition, the scope of the
Category:Opposition to Ferenc Gyurcsány should be limited to 2004 to 2009, while
Category:Opposition to Viktor Orbán could be scoped to 1998-2002 and 2010-present. Then again, maybe we should call it "Opposition to the Orban Government(s)" or something instead of "to Viktor Orbán" personally.
NLeeuw (
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That is a fair point I can agree with. As I said, There could be a reason for having both, having neither, or having one but not the other. I'm not saying we should treat them equally (Orban is in a much more authoritarian position than Gyurcsány ever was), but I do think we should compare the two categories, and then make a decision.
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Delete as duplicative, as nom states. Nothing lost in deletion anyways, as there were many instances of the newer version being wrongly or poorly implemented anyways. (Many DEFINING violations.)
Sergecross73msg me 21:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep there's a difference between these two categories. "characters in video games" are notable characters in the game while "protagonists" are lead characters. By comparison, there is a category called "
Category:Black characters in video games" and also
Category:Video games featuring black protagonists. Native American characters in video games are a lot rarer and deserve categories to help people find them, raise awareness and for research.
Artanisen (
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But that's just it. How often is a game's non-protagonist side character's race going to be an DEFINING trait of a game on a whole? And as ferret notes, it doesn't make sense that your category is framed as about characters but was mostly applied to video game articles, not character articles.
Sergecross73msg me 21:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree that in some games the Native American character plays a (very) minor role, while in others they are an important part of the story and gaming experience. If their role is too minor then they can be removed from the category. For example in the Red Dead Redemption games and Red Dead Revolver, the Native American characters play a significant role in the storyline, but they aren't protagonists. As in defining, well the interaction between the cowboys and Native Americans is an essential part of the main story and activities. -
Artanisen (
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The counter-argument categories are populated with characters. This one is populated with video games, except for one (Nightwolf), who is in the duplicative category already. --
ferret (
talk) 23:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I put Nightwolf in "Native American characters in video games", because he's an important character in Mortal Kombat, but not a protagonist. Other characters are described in the articles of the video games. If necessary more information can be added about the characters. This game
Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, the title of the game "Guardian of Light" refers to the Mayan warrior named Totec. Totec is playable in cooperative play. So Totec is one of the most important characters in this game together with Lara Croft. In
Shadow Hearts: From the New World, the protagonist is Johnny Garland, while Shania is his female counterpart.
Red Dead Redemption and
Red Dead Redemption 2, each have a couple of important native American characters. Without these characters the story wouldn't work. -
Artanisen (
talk) 09:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, if it is not about a protagonist then it is nor a defining characteristic.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment - when I first read this category title, I thought it was for Native American characters who debuted in video games, not for video games with Native American characters. Maybe the category could just be redefined.
(Oinkers42) (
talk) 14:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree, but I believe that the necessary reworking would pretty much lead us to the category ferret noted already exists.
Sergecross73msg me 15:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. Note that
Category:Fictional Native American people in video games already exists for categorizing characters (not necessarily the games they are part of), although note hatnote that this category is for A) American Indians in the United States, and B) Is not for fictional characters merely "coded" with some American Indian attributes. I suspect that this category might be a better use of what the category creator intended.
SnowFire (
talk) 15:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes,
Category:Fictional Native American people in video games has a lot of overlap with this category. Usually the term "character" is used for video game characters instead of "Fictional people". Native American usually refers to indigenous people from the USA. It could also be used as a broader term for indigenous people from the Americas (North, Central and South America). -
Artanisen (
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This shows further duplication with existing categories that can (and do) serve this purpose. --
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Nominator's rationale:rename to clarify that this is about
feminist philosophy rather than a category of philosophers who happen to support feminism.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom. Same logic as the rename for Atheism writers to writers about atheism.
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Category:International Booker Prize winners
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Category:Feminist theologians
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Nominator's rationale:rename to clarify that this is about
feminist theology rather than a category of theologians who happen to support feminism.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom. Same logic as the rename for Atheism writers to writers about atheism.
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Category:Recipients of the Sahitya Akademi Fellowship
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Category:People associated with identity politics
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Delete per
WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH. It's also typically an accusation against an opponent, which is usually denied. Few people will proudly advocate for identity politics themselves. So per
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT it should also be deleted.
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Category:Odisha Sahitya Akademi
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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category contains only one item.
PepperBeast(talk) 20:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom but add the article to the parent categories manually.
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Category:Israel Prize in translation recipients
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Category:Recipients of the Padma Shri in literature & education
Category:16th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in Africa
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Nominator's rationale: There's not enough content to justify this level of diffusion. Please be aware that the IP making all of these requests is being extremely disruptive on CFD. And is evading their
blockMason (
talk) 15:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
With eight and six articles respectively (and more to come) would you consider differently?
46.229.243.187 (
talk) 20:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. Define what's "not enough content". There are many churches in the oldest former colonies which date back to the 17th or 16th century. Meanwhile @Samasongarrison please clarify your point about IP being disruptive.
46.229.243.187 (
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Qwerfjkltalk 19:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Considering the current content of the categories, I am withdrawing my support.
Marcocapelle (
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That's fair, especially now that there's content.
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Category:16th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Portuguese Macau
Nominator's rationale: This seems anachronistic. These forts were not "in the United States" when they were built and only became so later on.
User:Namiba 02:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment if these forts still existed at the time Canada was established, then the category is correct. And there was also the colony of
Canada, New France and colony of
United Canadas, British North America --
65.92.247.66 (
talk) 05:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment if these forts still existed at the time that the USA took over the territory, then they are correct. Such as many forts acquired in the Louisiana Purchase. Or any ruins/museums that still exist today --
65.92.247.66 (
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This is not only a proposed renaming but also an extension of scope; forts in New France that were not in provinces which became the United States will be covered as a result.
61.244.93.97 (
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Which is perfectly fine. New France has never been divided in an American and a Canadian part.
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Qwerfjkltalk 12:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
PS: An Alt Rename might be Category:Former French forts in the United States or Category:French-built forts in the United States, but I think that requires renaming the underlying main article
List of French forts in North America first.
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Nominator's rationale:delete,
Rathore is not a defining characteristic of these articles.
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✗plicit 13:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, cleanup, possibly rename. Looks defining for many pages in it. -
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Nominator's rationale: Merge categories with only one or two members to all parents. Rename the last
WP:C2C. –
FayenaticLondon 08:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support per nom
Mason (
talk) 13:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Sint Maarten and Curaçao are not part of the Netherlands. For the BES islands merge the categories to one named Caribbean Netherlands instead so that they are subcategorized under both the Netherlands and the Caribbean categories.
46.229.243.187 (
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@
Fayenatic london: It doesn't sound nice to lump together the BES islands with those of the CAS islands.
46.229.243.187 (
talk) 14:29, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
When you use terms that may not be common knowledge, please link them, e.g.
BES islands and
CAS islands.
Sorry if IYHO it doesn't sound nice to use Dutch Caribbean, but setting up a separate sub-hierarchy for Caribbean Netherlands would require many perpetually small categories. The best hierarchy we have is Dutch Caribbean. –
FayenaticLondon 17:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm no expert on the history or current politics, I'm just looking at how our categories are structured at the moment. Would you support a split of the whole
Dutch Caribbean hierarchy? If so, I suggest you make a nomination to split some representative categories at the top levels. But until that has happened, the tiny sub-topic of medical schools should follow the existing hierarchy. –
FayenaticLondon 21:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Qwerfjkltalk 19:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep Category:Medical schools in Sint Maarten and keep it under Category:Medical schools in the Caribbean and Category:Medical schools by country (along with Category:Medical schools in Curaçao and Category:Medical schools in Aruba). Group medical schools of the BES islands under Caribbean Netherlands and keep them under both Category:Medical schools in the Caribbean and Category:Medical schools in the Netherlands.
46.229.243.187 (
talk) 16:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Fix the spelling and
Caribbean Netherlands (mnemonic: it's named after the
Carib people) comprises the BES islands.
Just as obiter dicta, what should be done with
Category:Dutch Caribbean? Split/rename the whole hierarchy to "Kingdom of the Netherlands" (including Curacao, Aruba, Sint Maarten) and "Caribbean Netherlands" for BES? After that, Dutch Caribbean could be disambiguated between Caribbean Netherlands and the historical
Islands of the Netherlands Antilles. –
FayenaticLondon 11:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
You are right about my spelling mistake and, more importantly, right about the way to solve this problem more generally.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Just as obiter dictum, should Category:Dutch Caribbean be kept just to hold a small number of subcategories and topics that are common to both BES and CAS (or ABC and SSS)?
46.229.243.187 (
talk) 12:02, 2 April 2024 (UTC)reply
It's "non-existence" yet it's a good collective term to refer to these special municipalities altogether. It's somehow like referring to an additional province although they aren't.
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Qwerfjkltalk 17:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
A category for medical schools in the
Caribbean Netherlands would be too small, as there are only 2 members in the current cats for Bonaire and Saba. If there is no consensus to merging to the intermediate level
Dutch Caribbean, then revert to my original merge proposal, but omit the Netherlands category in the case of Sint Maarten. –
FayenaticLondon 15:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Category:Citizens of Hungary through descent
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Nominator's rationale: Merge to Transgender and medicine. This category is a based on the ICD-11 equivalent of
Gender dysphoria, and is a odd carve out of the parent category. If not merged, I think it should be renamed to Gender dysphoria because the bulk of the actual contents are about dysphoria, not incongruence.
Mason (
talk) 00:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Disperse, the category contains an odd mix of transgender-related and non-transgender-related articles and redirects.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Upmerge for now per nom. It is indeed an odd mixture. As nom says,
gender incongruence is a redirect to a section in
ICD-11, where it is called a synonym of
gender dysphoria, but the article
causes of gender incongruence claims it is the cause of gender dysphoria. At any rate, it's irregular to have a "causes of X" article if there is no main article of the same name. It also supports upmerging to a category where at least the article
gender dysphoria itself can be found.
NLeeuw (
talk) 06:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Disperse per Marcocapelle.
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