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Imzadi 1979 → 22:41, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Hi WMrapids. I've closed you most recent RFC at
WP:RSN, it's not the way to get the answers to the questions you asked. If you want clarification of the close of an RFC such as the original La Patilla, your first step should be to ask the closer. If you don't think their answer is satisfactory you can ask for the close to be reviewed at
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WMrapids, after Siroxo closed the first RFC, and ActivelyDisinterested closed the second RFC, you queried Siroxo about contentious topics, and Siroxo clarified. There are no general sanctions on Venezuelan topics; BLPs are a contentious topic, Venezuela is not. Telesur is not a BLP or a contentious topic. And yet, you are doing this. Which part of the summary at WP:RSP of the close of La Patilla do you think supports your edit warring at Telesur? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hello WMrapids -- I've declined this speedy deletion request as G11 is meant for articles that are irredeemable promotion, with no factual content or reliable sources. Generally, if you feel the need to explain why something should be deleted, speedy is not the appropriate route. Regards, Espresso Addict ( talk) 02:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Good afternoon comrade. Just letting you know that I did notice your recent tag but won't be replying on the talk page. I have not been paying much attention to the regime change pages lately, since Guaidó has left the scene and appointed himself visiting professor at some red-neck U.S. university. Reward for service. Btw, I do admire your patience. Solidarity!! Burrobert ( talk) 05:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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An FYI; see where attribution is not needed. The idea behind the copying within guideline is that Wikipedia's licensing requires that individual's contributions be attributed; when you wholly write content and then (with no editor having changed that content) add the exact content you wrote to another article, CWW attribution isn't needed. It's all your work; no one else needs to be attributed. When in doubt, attribute, but in this case, as the edits were back to back, it was extra work you didn't need to do.
Separately, since summary style was used to trim the main article when the sub-article was created (because the main article was too long), let's not bloat the main article with individual opinions again-- that's why there's a sub-article. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:42, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
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In the recent weeks, this is probably the most egregious case of blanking that I have encountered with you so far. Not only you continue saying that the text is not in the sources despite proof of the opposite in the talk page, but you're asking me to "discuss first" when you have not engaged in the talk page. I'll remind that I have already complained about blanking in the past, and will not doubt to do it again if needed. Regards, NoonIcarus ( talk) 19:18, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
I suggest when you allege that an editor has made POV editing across multiple pages in a topic area, (as done here with NoonIcarus) that you make those allegations on that editor's talk page rather than in one of the many articles. The focus on the talk page should be more on the article in question rather than the editor's overall behavior here. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 22:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
"[a]void posting a generic warning template if you are actively involved in the edit war yourself; it can be seen as aggressive."Such templates placed by NoonIcarus, who was also edit warring, seemed to be inappropriate and intended to further add fuel to the fire (especially since they have a history of making things personal).
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After being asked/reminded many times over many months to focus on content and avoid personalizing and casting aspersions, this issue continues. With a quick search, I find at least here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here (there may be more).
Specifically, when you asserted in October that "Honestly, this seems more like Wikihounding behavior by both you and NoonIcarus" (re a Copying Within Wikipedia issue I raised that had nothing to do with NoonIcarus-- CWW is a personal interest of mine as I participate at WP:CCI), I reminded you that "the aspersions need to stop. It is ludicrous to suggest that I followed you to an article I created and wrote most of. And I am not NoonIcarus; you've been asked once already at ANI to cease the aspersions; please do." You seem intent on implying that I edit at NoonIcarus's behest or in collusion with him.
Repeating that behavior again months later, at the current ANI, you appear to insinuate tag-teaming or collusion between Bobfrombrockley and NoonIcarus, which was politely corrected by BobFromBrockley:
I know that you two have worked pretty closely together on removing some info from United States involvement in regime change. ... WMrapids (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
And although he very politely corrects you with:
By "worked together closely", I think you mean that we have at times agreed on what the content should look like and you've disagreed. ... BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
... only days later, you repeat the behavior with another false personalization aimed at me, with: [3]
"SandyGeorgia and NoonIcarus do have a history of collaborating together for years, however, which makes it interesting that SandyGeorgia began editing again at the same time this ANI was opened and became involved after NoonIcarus contacted them in their talk page"
and then did not retract when you were questioned on this by another editor, with: [4]
but the timing is curious to post something to a talk page which will be usually emailed.
And several days later, you have still not retracted or struck the false claim, in spite of repeated explanations from me ... thereby again derailing and unnecessarily lengthening a discussion.
It pains me to be using my vacation time to deal with this, but this is no longer tolerable. Your insinuations are false. For the record, I have reviewed my email and I have exactly two (count 'em, TWO) very brief email threads with NoonIcarus. One last November where I emailed him a simple question, and he simply responded weeks later. And one from mid-December where NoonIcarus (like dozens of others) emailed me to wish me well after reading on Wikipedia of the real life difficulties I've been going through, and NOTHING else. Sum total of all our emails (and I don't engage any other form of off-Wiki contact either).
That you could turn the well wishes from many editors who watch my talk page and worried that I was gone into something more sinister is repulsive. NoonIcarus has never attempted to sway my editing via any contact on or off Wikipedia. I explained what circumstances led to me having enough time after I saw David Tornheim's ping after I arrived at my son's house to check on Venezuelan content, which led me to the ANI, and yet you haven't struck your insinuation/accusation. And what led me to finally check my email and re-engage somewhat had nothing to do with Venezuelan editing, rather seeing news of developments in the Cassava Sciences debacle led me to review my gmail, where I have google alerts set up, and Tornheim's ping was the first at the top of my email when I logged in.
This whole debacle is another sad example of your behaviors that impede collaboration and result in lengthy threads no one wants to read, and discourages people from participating on Wikipedia. I am again reminding you to check your AGF, avoid personalizing, and confine your commentary to content. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 05:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
"the last one remaining"( inaccurately), you said that they were
"the only editor"that
"has broad knowledge of what all the sources say."I'm not sure if things have changed since 2020, but NoonIcarus' inappropriate "failed verification" removals, their attempt to make a fringe and extremist source more accepted, their use of an essay as policy to remove citations, alongside the concerns of numerous editors, makes it seem like this
"broad knowledge"no longer exists, only a deep POV. While this may seem like I'm trying to accuse you of misbehavior, again, you have your own opinion on NoonIcarus that seemed approving towards them; this in itself is not bad (we all have different opinions on different topics), but this is why I was having some concerns about them specifically trying to get your attention in their own time of need. This is also the reason why I noted past, significant collaborations NoonIcarus had with other editors; not to minimize the other editors in some way, but to track potential canvassing from NoonIcarus if necessary. Hopefully this is understandable for you.
"if the point is wanting to add chapter titles to the citations so it will be easier for readers who are in a similar position to you and reading from Kindle, I think that's nice. But it's not incumbent upon WMrapids to add."Overall, I proved that my sources were not inaccurate in the ANI (despite their lack of specificity) and reflecting on citation edits, I admittedly may have become lazy after facing constant stonewalls from NoonIcarus since I thought (and evidenced with the ANI) that detailed citations did not really matter to them. Like what JArthur1984 said, I felt like users were trying to make me create citations to fit their own preferences, but after seeing the recommendation from Goldsztajn in the ANI, I will remember to be as thorough as possible with my citations.
"suggest sanctions/warnings". You also have taken the time out of your family holiday, your recent losses and your own physical difficulties to become involved in an already lengthy ANI discussion. I admire the determination that you have and understand that this may be a way for you to cope with what may be going on, but I hope that this is not something personal. As I have detailed above, my opinion for you has always been one of respect, even if we did have disagreements or differing opinions.
"reinstated a POV tag that had been resolved, [and] re-added UNDUE material that had been many times discussed, without engaging talk". However, I only reverted things back to the way you left it since there wasn't much discussion (maybe I missed it?) and NoonIcarus began making edits on their own. I know this may be asking a lot since you have had to be so patient with me, but could you strike this as an act of good faith as well?
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Imzadi 1979 → 22:41, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Hi WMrapids. I've closed you most recent RFC at
WP:RSN, it's not the way to get the answers to the questions you asked. If you want clarification of the close of an RFC such as the original La Patilla, your first step should be to ask the closer. If you don't think their answer is satisfactory you can ask for the close to be reviewed at
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RFCs are meant to be the last step in a process, not something you should rush into. I suggest you try discussion with other editors, and if you can't come to a consensus follow the advice at
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WP:RFCBEFORE. -- LCU
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WMrapids, after Siroxo closed the first RFC, and ActivelyDisinterested closed the second RFC, you queried Siroxo about contentious topics, and Siroxo clarified. There are no general sanctions on Venezuelan topics; BLPs are a contentious topic, Venezuela is not. Telesur is not a BLP or a contentious topic. And yet, you are doing this. Which part of the summary at WP:RSP of the close of La Patilla do you think supports your edit warring at Telesur? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hello WMrapids -- I've declined this speedy deletion request as G11 is meant for articles that are irredeemable promotion, with no factual content or reliable sources. Generally, if you feel the need to explain why something should be deleted, speedy is not the appropriate route. Regards, Espresso Addict ( talk) 02:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Good afternoon comrade. Just letting you know that I did notice your recent tag but won't be replying on the talk page. I have not been paying much attention to the regime change pages lately, since Guaidó has left the scene and appointed himself visiting professor at some red-neck U.S. university. Reward for service. Btw, I do admire your patience. Solidarity!! Burrobert ( talk) 05:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject Peru topicon has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym ( talk) 18:08, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, WMrapids. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Fujimorist propaganda".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗ plicit 14:13, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
An FYI; see where attribution is not needed. The idea behind the copying within guideline is that Wikipedia's licensing requires that individual's contributions be attributed; when you wholly write content and then (with no editor having changed that content) add the exact content you wrote to another article, CWW attribution isn't needed. It's all your work; no one else needs to be attributed. When in doubt, attribute, but in this case, as the edits were back to back, it was extra work you didn't need to do.
Separately, since summary style was used to trim the main article when the sub-article was created (because the main article was too long), let's not bloat the main article with individual opinions again-- that's why there's a sub-article. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:42, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
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We may not always agree on what's best, but I trust that we have been able to find common solutions many times. I sent you my warmest regards and wish you the best this season. Happy holidays! NoonIcarus ( talk) 20:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC) |
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In the recent weeks, this is probably the most egregious case of blanking that I have encountered with you so far. Not only you continue saying that the text is not in the sources despite proof of the opposite in the talk page, but you're asking me to "discuss first" when you have not engaged in the talk page. I'll remind that I have already complained about blanking in the past, and will not doubt to do it again if needed. Regards, NoonIcarus ( talk) 19:18, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
I suggest when you allege that an editor has made POV editing across multiple pages in a topic area, (as done here with NoonIcarus) that you make those allegations on that editor's talk page rather than in one of the many articles. The focus on the talk page should be more on the article in question rather than the editor's overall behavior here. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 22:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
"[a]void posting a generic warning template if you are actively involved in the edit war yourself; it can be seen as aggressive."Such templates placed by NoonIcarus, who was also edit warring, seemed to be inappropriate and intended to further add fuel to the fire (especially since they have a history of making things personal).
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The links to Stratfor in this edit
[2] don't work because they contain a duplication in the URL ("/article/article/").
So,
https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/article/venezuela-marigold-revolution
should be, https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/venezuela-marigold-revolution
Both links work once the extra "\article" is removed. Put this here rather than ANI as it's not directly relevant. -- LCU
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After being asked/reminded many times over many months to focus on content and avoid personalizing and casting aspersions, this issue continues. With a quick search, I find at least here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here (there may be more).
Specifically, when you asserted in October that "Honestly, this seems more like Wikihounding behavior by both you and NoonIcarus" (re a Copying Within Wikipedia issue I raised that had nothing to do with NoonIcarus-- CWW is a personal interest of mine as I participate at WP:CCI), I reminded you that "the aspersions need to stop. It is ludicrous to suggest that I followed you to an article I created and wrote most of. And I am not NoonIcarus; you've been asked once already at ANI to cease the aspersions; please do." You seem intent on implying that I edit at NoonIcarus's behest or in collusion with him.
Repeating that behavior again months later, at the current ANI, you appear to insinuate tag-teaming or collusion between Bobfrombrockley and NoonIcarus, which was politely corrected by BobFromBrockley:
I know that you two have worked pretty closely together on removing some info from United States involvement in regime change. ... WMrapids (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
And although he very politely corrects you with:
By "worked together closely", I think you mean that we have at times agreed on what the content should look like and you've disagreed. ... BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
... only days later, you repeat the behavior with another false personalization aimed at me, with: [3]
"SandyGeorgia and NoonIcarus do have a history of collaborating together for years, however, which makes it interesting that SandyGeorgia began editing again at the same time this ANI was opened and became involved after NoonIcarus contacted them in their talk page"
and then did not retract when you were questioned on this by another editor, with: [4]
but the timing is curious to post something to a talk page which will be usually emailed.
And several days later, you have still not retracted or struck the false claim, in spite of repeated explanations from me ... thereby again derailing and unnecessarily lengthening a discussion.
It pains me to be using my vacation time to deal with this, but this is no longer tolerable. Your insinuations are false. For the record, I have reviewed my email and I have exactly two (count 'em, TWO) very brief email threads with NoonIcarus. One last November where I emailed him a simple question, and he simply responded weeks later. And one from mid-December where NoonIcarus (like dozens of others) emailed me to wish me well after reading on Wikipedia of the real life difficulties I've been going through, and NOTHING else. Sum total of all our emails (and I don't engage any other form of off-Wiki contact either).
That you could turn the well wishes from many editors who watch my talk page and worried that I was gone into something more sinister is repulsive. NoonIcarus has never attempted to sway my editing via any contact on or off Wikipedia. I explained what circumstances led to me having enough time after I saw David Tornheim's ping after I arrived at my son's house to check on Venezuelan content, which led me to the ANI, and yet you haven't struck your insinuation/accusation. And what led me to finally check my email and re-engage somewhat had nothing to do with Venezuelan editing, rather seeing news of developments in the Cassava Sciences debacle led me to review my gmail, where I have google alerts set up, and Tornheim's ping was the first at the top of my email when I logged in.
This whole debacle is another sad example of your behaviors that impede collaboration and result in lengthy threads no one wants to read, and discourages people from participating on Wikipedia. I am again reminding you to check your AGF, avoid personalizing, and confine your commentary to content. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 05:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
"the last one remaining"( inaccurately), you said that they were
"the only editor"that
"has broad knowledge of what all the sources say."I'm not sure if things have changed since 2020, but NoonIcarus' inappropriate "failed verification" removals, their attempt to make a fringe and extremist source more accepted, their use of an essay as policy to remove citations, alongside the concerns of numerous editors, makes it seem like this
"broad knowledge"no longer exists, only a deep POV. While this may seem like I'm trying to accuse you of misbehavior, again, you have your own opinion on NoonIcarus that seemed approving towards them; this in itself is not bad (we all have different opinions on different topics), but this is why I was having some concerns about them specifically trying to get your attention in their own time of need. This is also the reason why I noted past, significant collaborations NoonIcarus had with other editors; not to minimize the other editors in some way, but to track potential canvassing from NoonIcarus if necessary. Hopefully this is understandable for you.
"if the point is wanting to add chapter titles to the citations so it will be easier for readers who are in a similar position to you and reading from Kindle, I think that's nice. But it's not incumbent upon WMrapids to add."Overall, I proved that my sources were not inaccurate in the ANI (despite their lack of specificity) and reflecting on citation edits, I admittedly may have become lazy after facing constant stonewalls from NoonIcarus since I thought (and evidenced with the ANI) that detailed citations did not really matter to them. Like what JArthur1984 said, I felt like users were trying to make me create citations to fit their own preferences, but after seeing the recommendation from Goldsztajn in the ANI, I will remember to be as thorough as possible with my citations.
"suggest sanctions/warnings". You also have taken the time out of your family holiday, your recent losses and your own physical difficulties to become involved in an already lengthy ANI discussion. I admire the determination that you have and understand that this may be a way for you to cope with what may be going on, but I hope that this is not something personal. As I have detailed above, my opinion for you has always been one of respect, even if we did have disagreements or differing opinions.
"reinstated a POV tag that had been resolved, [and] re-added UNDUE material that had been many times discussed, without engaging talk". However, I only reverted things back to the way you left it since there wasn't much discussion (maybe I missed it?) and NoonIcarus began making edits on their own. I know this may be asking a lot since you have had to be so patient with me, but could you strike this as an act of good faith as well?
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