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Please don't reinstate dumb/trolling Talk page comments. It only feeds the trolls. Bon courage ( talk) 06:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Thinker78 (talk) 06:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Do not bite the newcomers: If someone does something against custom, assume it was an unwitting mistake; gently point out their mistake (referencing relevant policies and guidelines) and suggest a better approach.
@Thinker78: I will block you if you reinstate obvious nonsense again. Regard that as avoiding disruptive edit warring if you like, but a more accurate assessment would be that it is to avoid the destructive effect on the community of such comments becoming common. If you have a point you would like to make about the article or whatever, make it, but don't edit war to restore nonsense from who-knows-who. Johnuniq ( talk) 08:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
When disagreement occurs, try as best you can to explain and resolve the problem, not cause more conflict, and so give others the opportunity to reply in kind. Consider whether a dispute stems from different perspectives, and look for ways to reach consensus.
Do not bite the newcomers: If someone does something against custom, assume it was an unwitting mistake; gently point out their mistake (referencing relevant policies and guidelines) and suggest a better approach.
All edits should be explained (unless the reason for them is obvious)—either by clear edit summaries, or by discussion on the associated talk page. Substantive, informative explanations indicate what issues need to be addressed in subsequent efforts to reach consensus. Explanations are especially important when reverting another editor's good-faith work.
Except in cases affected by content policies or guidelines, most disputes over content may be resolved through minor changes rather than taking an all-or-nothing position. If your first edit is reverted, try to think of a compromise edit that addresses the other editor's concerns. If you can't, or if you do and your second edit is reverted, create a new section on the associated talk page to discuss the dispute.
Consensus is Wikipedia's fundamental method of decision making, and involves an effort to address editors' legitimate concerns through a process of compromise while following Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.
@Thinker78, you've picked a strange cause to attach yourself to. A drive-by comment asserting that calling conspiracy theorists conspiracy theorists is racist is at best obvious nonsense, and at worst trolling. Moving on to tone-police editors who describe nonsense as nonsense is a waste of your time and ours. Acroterion (talk) 13:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
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ScottishFinnishRadish (
talk) 03:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)I respectfully inquired and challenged your block [of another editor] at that time, citing relevant guidance. Now you come making accusations against me. Are the accusations unbiased and objective? I have to ask.You did not answer the question and instead proceeded to block me. I believe you should have left it to other administrators to review my case and I don't think it was appropriate from you to block me in this instance. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 03:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Thinker78 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
There are reasons I believe why the block against me is incorrect.
You were yet again forum shopping in places where user conduct is not discussed.They produced the diffs [5] [6], which are edits I made following the Dispute Resolution policy which I had read beforehand.
If your dispute is related to a certain content area, you can ask your question or publicize a related discussion on the talk page of relevant WikiProjects[a] or other pages. For example, a dispute at the article Battle of Stalingrad could be mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. To keep discussion centralized at the original talk page, you may just want to leave a link to the original talk page and a brief invitation to join the discussion, rather than restarting the discussion on the new talk page.
Queries placed on noticeboards and talk pages should be phrased as neutrally as possible, in order to get uninvolved and neutral additional opinions. Where multiple issues do exist, then the raising of the individual issues on the correct pages may be reasonable, but in that case it is normally best to give links to show where else you have raised the question.
You are also failing to listen to advice and warnings.As evidence they provided this diff, regarding my complaint to the other administrator (Johnuniq) that warned me of a block if I reinstated "obvious nonsense again". I did not reinstate. I simply provided my rationale for my previous revert, evidenced that my reverts were not edit warring but were according to policy, and complained about the threat of a block (which took me really by surprise). Therefore, I did not fail to listen as I did not do the action the other administrator warned me against. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 03:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I think your interpretations above are incorrect and that this is a good block. I too would advise you to read WP:NOTTHEM. 331dot ( talk) 08:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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The arguments "I just don't like it" and "I just like it" usually carry no weight whatsoever.
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Request reason:
Brief: Following guidance, I made edits and two requests. I did not do forum shopping but instead I followed proper Wikipedia guidance. I heeded the warning of an administrator. I did not fail to listen. Following the fundamental principles of the Five Pillars, my edits were not disruptive but rather contribute to a better encyclopedia, written from a neutral point of view, that anyone can use, edit, and distribute, in an environment where editors should treat each other with respect and civility and understanding that Wikipedia has no firm rules, where the principles and spirit matter more than literal wording.
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You were yet again forum shopping in places where user conduct is not discussed.
If your dispute is related to a certain content area, you can ask your question or publicize a related discussion on the talk page of relevant WikiProjects[a] or other pages. For example, a dispute at the article Battle of Stalingrad could be mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. To keep discussion centralized at the original talk page, you may just want to leave a link to the original talk page and a brief invitation to join the discussion, rather than restarting the discussion on the new talk page.
Queries placed on noticeboards and talk pages should be phrased as neutrally as possible, in order to get uninvolved and neutral additional opinions. Where multiple issues do exist, then the raising of the individual issues on the correct pages may be reasonable, but in that case it is normally best to give links to show where else you have raised the question.
You are also failing to listen to advice and warnings. For necessity of context, I include this info: an administrator (not the one blocking), had warned me of a block if I reinstated "obvious nonsense again". I did not reinstate. Therefore, I did not fail to listen to the warning. I simply had provided my rationale for my previous revert, had evidenced that my reverts were not edit warring but were according to policy, and had made a complaint.
When I see (seldom) what in my opinion is an undue revert even of what seems to be trolls, I analyze it, I investigate the context, and if it is not indeed just vandalism or unconstructive edits (which sometimes I also remove myself), I restore them.
I stand for the principle and spirit behind the policy that Wikipedia is not censored and the neutral point of view, respecting relevant Wikipedia guidance.*Per the Guide to appealing blocks, I provided evidence why I did not disrupt Wikipedia and why my edits were and are legitimate. Thanks for your attention.
Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Decline reason:
For wikilawyering and timewasting unblock requests following on wikilawyering and timewasting talkpage editing, your talkpage access has been revoked. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, you should contact administrators by submitting a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. I should perhaps warn you that the UTRS admins will also soon enough get tired of having their time and patience wasted, so in your own interest, try to be more concise. Bishonen | tålk 19:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Talk page guidelines page. This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Assume good faith page.They are not noticeboards. This is not the first time you've gone to the talk pages of random guidelines over an editor behavior complaint. Third, as far as consensus goes you should read the room a bit and look at the myriad responses here. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 19:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Thinker78. You have written me an e-mail asking to have your talkpage access restored. I will reply here: The way I see it, you have been exhausting the patience of administrators by submitting several long elaborate unblock requests and, in between, arguing in a bureaucratic way with the blocking admin and the admin who declined your first request. See Vexatious litigation. That's why I revoked your talkpage access. You can discuss any problems you see with my rejection of your request for unblock, and/or my revocation of talkpage access, with the admins at UTRS. It is not an inferior option to write to them and explain why you think you should be unblocked and/or have your tpa back. It won't be as public, that's all. UTRS admins, feel free to unblock and/or restore tpa without consulting me, if you think it appropriate. Bishonen | tålk 01:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC).
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I admire the principle under which you restored the talk page comment. To most editors, though, it's clear that this is a trolling comment - apart from anything else there's clearly nothing "racist" about calling chem-trails a "conspiracy theory". If it's not clear to you, even in retrospect, you need to steer clear of intervening in this kind of thing in future.
Having said that, I do think admins could have been a little more gentle in the subsequent events. That, however, is not something that is likely to change overnight, so stepping lightly is advised. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough 18:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC).
Hi - Perhaps you can look into this matter. My Userpage has been "played with" without any record of the manipulation in the history. The images have been moved about repeatedly in recent months, but I have made no adjustments prior to these changes. When I manually restore the content, the images are soon moved to make them asymmetrical. This is a form of "soft" vandalism, is it not? Can you provide some advice on how to detect who is doing this? 36hourblock ( talk) 18:36, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Thinker78 :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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See WP:DTTR. There was no need of this. Capitals00 ( talk) 02:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
You reverted an ip post, claiming later that it was "blatant trolling". Investigating the claims of the ip, I found they were valid and submitted the relevant sources in said talk page., seemed pretty pertinent to me. That it was framed with some boilerplate AGF template content is kinda irrelevant. (That said, lots of us make perhaps "over-protective" mistakes when it comes to IP-address editors adding/changing things without citing sources adequately or at all; mistakes definitely happen in that direction, and I've made some of those myself.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 15:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for doing it this way, but only for a minute left before break ends. Can you check your statements for word count? You might need an extension or trimming to get under 500 words. -- Super Goku V ( talk) 23:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi. You've participated in discussions on the Joan of Arc talk page, and I've begun a consensus discussion there now. Can you offer your opinion? Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 03:45, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
I also think this ties into a long-standing WMF organizational lifecycle problem, of operating like a software company with a userbase instead of as a public-interest nonprofit with a constituency.Interesting point. I do think this reflects the situation where many ips and new users are treated with undue intolerance, a measure of contempt, and not really in a welcoming manner. I mean if many admins don't treat collegially experienced editors, much less they may be inclined to do so with ips or new users.
close to its founderat least in Wikipedia I heard otherwise. Jimbo reportedly had an arbitration case against him and it ended up in not a good way for him. Check out his permissions. He is listed now only as founder. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 04:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello Thinker78,
[12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], and now the case request I have recused from because I was recipient of one of these messages too and am annoyed to see this behavior hasn't changed since August 2022.
Can you stop attempting to educate experienced users about basic policies, please? Disagreement with experienced contributors doesn't mean that they misunderstand a policy.
Best regards,
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posting notices at policy/guideline talk pages. Are you saying editors should not post notices at policy/guidelines talk pages to publicize discussions? Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee have declined the case request Consensus process, censorship, administrators' warnings and blocks in dispute, and responses to appeals. You may view the declined case request using this link. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 18:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Noah, AA Talk 12:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
As a result of the above discussion, you are banned from editing and I have indefinitely blocked your account. This is a community ban which you can appeal at any time by following the instructions at WP:UNBAN; you still have access to your talk page. – Joe ( talk) 13:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
(Hello Thinker78, at the bottom of WP:Administrative action review's current revision, I referred to the "section above", which is yours. It hasn't been archived yet and a case that is similar in my opinion arised, so I mentioned it.) ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 22:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please don't reinstate dumb/trolling Talk page comments. It only feeds the trolls. Bon courage ( talk) 06:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Thinker78 (talk) 06:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Do not bite the newcomers: If someone does something against custom, assume it was an unwitting mistake; gently point out their mistake (referencing relevant policies and guidelines) and suggest a better approach.
@Thinker78: I will block you if you reinstate obvious nonsense again. Regard that as avoiding disruptive edit warring if you like, but a more accurate assessment would be that it is to avoid the destructive effect on the community of such comments becoming common. If you have a point you would like to make about the article or whatever, make it, but don't edit war to restore nonsense from who-knows-who. Johnuniq ( talk) 08:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
When disagreement occurs, try as best you can to explain and resolve the problem, not cause more conflict, and so give others the opportunity to reply in kind. Consider whether a dispute stems from different perspectives, and look for ways to reach consensus.
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@Thinker78, you've picked a strange cause to attach yourself to. A drive-by comment asserting that calling conspiracy theorists conspiracy theorists is racist is at best obvious nonsense, and at worst trolling. Moving on to tone-police editors who describe nonsense as nonsense is a waste of your time and ours. Acroterion (talk) 13:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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talk) 03:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)I respectfully inquired and challenged your block [of another editor] at that time, citing relevant guidance. Now you come making accusations against me. Are the accusations unbiased and objective? I have to ask.You did not answer the question and instead proceeded to block me. I believe you should have left it to other administrators to review my case and I don't think it was appropriate from you to block me in this instance. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 03:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Thinker78 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
There are reasons I believe why the block against me is incorrect.
You were yet again forum shopping in places where user conduct is not discussed.They produced the diffs [5] [6], which are edits I made following the Dispute Resolution policy which I had read beforehand.
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You are also failing to listen to advice and warnings.As evidence they provided this diff, regarding my complaint to the other administrator (Johnuniq) that warned me of a block if I reinstated "obvious nonsense again". I did not reinstate. I simply provided my rationale for my previous revert, evidenced that my reverts were not edit warring but were according to policy, and complained about the threat of a block (which took me really by surprise). Therefore, I did not fail to listen as I did not do the action the other administrator warned me against. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 03:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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I think your interpretations above are incorrect and that this is a good block. I too would advise you to read WP:NOTTHEM. 331dot ( talk) 08:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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Thinker78 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Brief: Following guidance, I made edits and two requests. I did not do forum shopping but instead I followed proper Wikipedia guidance. I heeded the warning of an administrator. I did not fail to listen. Following the fundamental principles of the Five Pillars, my edits were not disruptive but rather contribute to a better encyclopedia, written from a neutral point of view, that anyone can use, edit, and distribute, in an environment where editors should treat each other with respect and civility and understanding that Wikipedia has no firm rules, where the principles and spirit matter more than literal wording.
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You were yet again forum shopping in places where user conduct is not discussed.
If your dispute is related to a certain content area, you can ask your question or publicize a related discussion on the talk page of relevant WikiProjects[a] or other pages. For example, a dispute at the article Battle of Stalingrad could be mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. To keep discussion centralized at the original talk page, you may just want to leave a link to the original talk page and a brief invitation to join the discussion, rather than restarting the discussion on the new talk page.
Queries placed on noticeboards and talk pages should be phrased as neutrally as possible, in order to get uninvolved and neutral additional opinions. Where multiple issues do exist, then the raising of the individual issues on the correct pages may be reasonable, but in that case it is normally best to give links to show where else you have raised the question.
You are also failing to listen to advice and warnings. For necessity of context, I include this info: an administrator (not the one blocking), had warned me of a block if I reinstated "obvious nonsense again". I did not reinstate. Therefore, I did not fail to listen to the warning. I simply had provided my rationale for my previous revert, had evidenced that my reverts were not edit warring but were according to policy, and had made a complaint.
When I see (seldom) what in my opinion is an undue revert even of what seems to be trolls, I analyze it, I investigate the context, and if it is not indeed just vandalism or unconstructive edits (which sometimes I also remove myself), I restore them.
I stand for the principle and spirit behind the policy that Wikipedia is not censored and the neutral point of view, respecting relevant Wikipedia guidance.*Per the Guide to appealing blocks, I provided evidence why I did not disrupt Wikipedia and why my edits were and are legitimate. Thanks for your attention.
Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Decline reason:
For wikilawyering and timewasting unblock requests following on wikilawyering and timewasting talkpage editing, your talkpage access has been revoked. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, you should contact administrators by submitting a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. I should perhaps warn you that the UTRS admins will also soon enough get tired of having their time and patience wasted, so in your own interest, try to be more concise. Bishonen | tålk 19:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Talk page guidelines page. This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Assume good faith page.They are not noticeboards. This is not the first time you've gone to the talk pages of random guidelines over an editor behavior complaint. Third, as far as consensus goes you should read the room a bit and look at the myriad responses here. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 19:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Thinker78. You have written me an e-mail asking to have your talkpage access restored. I will reply here: The way I see it, you have been exhausting the patience of administrators by submitting several long elaborate unblock requests and, in between, arguing in a bureaucratic way with the blocking admin and the admin who declined your first request. See Vexatious litigation. That's why I revoked your talkpage access. You can discuss any problems you see with my rejection of your request for unblock, and/or my revocation of talkpage access, with the admins at UTRS. It is not an inferior option to write to them and explain why you think you should be unblocked and/or have your tpa back. It won't be as public, that's all. UTRS admins, feel free to unblock and/or restore tpa without consulting me, if you think it appropriate. Bishonen | tålk 01:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC).
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I admire the principle under which you restored the talk page comment. To most editors, though, it's clear that this is a trolling comment - apart from anything else there's clearly nothing "racist" about calling chem-trails a "conspiracy theory". If it's not clear to you, even in retrospect, you need to steer clear of intervening in this kind of thing in future.
Having said that, I do think admins could have been a little more gentle in the subsequent events. That, however, is not something that is likely to change overnight, so stepping lightly is advised. All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough 18:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC).
Hi - Perhaps you can look into this matter. My Userpage has been "played with" without any record of the manipulation in the history. The images have been moved about repeatedly in recent months, but I have made no adjustments prior to these changes. When I manually restore the content, the images are soon moved to make them asymmetrical. This is a form of "soft" vandalism, is it not? Can you provide some advice on how to detect who is doing this? 36hourblock ( talk) 18:36, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Thinker78 :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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See WP:DTTR. There was no need of this. Capitals00 ( talk) 02:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
You reverted an ip post, claiming later that it was "blatant trolling". Investigating the claims of the ip, I found they were valid and submitted the relevant sources in said talk page., seemed pretty pertinent to me. That it was framed with some boilerplate AGF template content is kinda irrelevant. (That said, lots of us make perhaps "over-protective" mistakes when it comes to IP-address editors adding/changing things without citing sources adequately or at all; mistakes definitely happen in that direction, and I've made some of those myself.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 15:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for doing it this way, but only for a minute left before break ends. Can you check your statements for word count? You might need an extension or trimming to get under 500 words. -- Super Goku V ( talk) 23:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi. You've participated in discussions on the Joan of Arc talk page, and I've begun a consensus discussion there now. Can you offer your opinion? Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 03:45, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
I also think this ties into a long-standing WMF organizational lifecycle problem, of operating like a software company with a userbase instead of as a public-interest nonprofit with a constituency.Interesting point. I do think this reflects the situation where many ips and new users are treated with undue intolerance, a measure of contempt, and not really in a welcoming manner. I mean if many admins don't treat collegially experienced editors, much less they may be inclined to do so with ips or new users.
close to its founderat least in Wikipedia I heard otherwise. Jimbo reportedly had an arbitration case against him and it ended up in not a good way for him. Check out his permissions. He is listed now only as founder. Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 04:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello Thinker78,
[12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], and now the case request I have recused from because I was recipient of one of these messages too and am annoyed to see this behavior hasn't changed since August 2022.
Can you stop attempting to educate experienced users about basic policies, please? Disagreement with experienced contributors doesn't mean that they misunderstand a policy.
Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (
talk) 16:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
posting notices at policy/guideline talk pages. Are you saying editors should not post notices at policy/guidelines talk pages to publicize discussions? Sincerely, Thinker78 (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee have declined the case request Consensus process, censorship, administrators' warnings and blocks in dispute, and responses to appeals. You may view the declined case request using this link. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 18:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Noah, AA Talk 12:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
As a result of the above discussion, you are banned from editing and I have indefinitely blocked your account. This is a community ban which you can appeal at any time by following the instructions at WP:UNBAN; you still have access to your talk page. – Joe ( talk) 13:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
(Hello Thinker78, at the bottom of WP:Administrative action review's current revision, I referred to the "section above", which is yours. It hasn't been archived yet and a case that is similar in my opinion arised, so I mentioned it.) ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 22:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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