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Rename per nom. Well-spotted and argued.
NLeeuw (
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Rename, while this involved quite a few disasters after all, the proposed name better reflects what is meant here.
Marcocapelle (
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Thanks! that is very helpful. Does that capitalization rule also include collective nouns? So like Indigenous group or Indigenous tribe or Indigenous organization?
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Nominator's rationale: The vast majority of these matches actually took place outside of the Las Vegas city limits.
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Marcocapelle, would you be opposed to the rename if the category is not merged? —
Qwerfjkltalk 12:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Fair question. In principle diffusing by Las Vegas Valley does not make a lot of sense because the far majority of human activity in Nevada takes place there. But, considering nominator's rationale, closing this as no consensus is the worst possible outcome. So the answer to the question is no, I would not be opposed.
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Category:Vampires in animated television
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Oppose: Honestly, looking at shows in this category, half of these seem to be not really surround narration about vampires. is Duck Dodgers, Adventure Time, Gravedale High, Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi really "about vampires" or various topics that happen to include a vampire? The previous title seems to match this relatively small cycle of tv series.
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I mean, those topics would not be
WP:DEFINING anyway and should probably be removed.
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Purge and rename per above discussion.
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Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for now. These categories were all made by the same user for the page
Golaghat highway accident, who has been advised to not create duplicate/single page categories. There is no need to have a category with a single page in it. If not merged, the categories should be renamed to "Golaghat district".
Mason (
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Question What's China got to do with it? Don't you mean India?
NLeeuw (
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Good question! @
Nederlandse Leeuw I was basing it off of the category it was already in (
Disasters in China by province). But, obviously, the target should be Disasters in India. I'll also update the category... to reflect reality
[1].
Mason (
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Haha thanks. The name "Golaghat" didn't seem very Chinese to me, and it all seemed to have happened in India, so I had to ask.
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Just delete 1 and Merge 2 per Marcocapelle.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge or delete. This isn't helpful for navigation to carve out two abbeys that are associated with a saint
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Oppose The abbeys and the saint are two different concepts. What's the issue to have different categories?
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There shouldn't be two categories as this is largely a matter of
WP:SHAREDNAME. It is merely a coincidence that one of the two articles does contain some legendary information about Saint Anthony the Great.
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Nominator's rationale: The only item is child
Category:European-American gangs right now, and all of them are groups that were or are active in the United States. This doesn't fit in parents
Category:Crime in Europe or
Category:Culture of Europe. No doubt there are what you might call "gangs" in Europe, but they are not to be found in this category. For this, the
Category:Gangs in Europe already exists. But I don't think a merger would make much sense, as there is little overlap between the two.
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Support per nom.
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Nominator's rationale:WP:OVERLAPCAT. Same scope. Note: I've speedied the target category to be renamed to
Category:Culture of Mexico by state. If approved, I will change the target in this nomination. But I think the situation is simple enough to already propose this merger. DoneNLeeuw (
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Merge and purge the Basque subcat, per nom.
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Nominator's rationale:merge, currently only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation between articles.
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Merge per nom.
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Nominator's rationale: Category with only one entry.
PepperBeast(talk) 11:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. It is not useful to categorize the article by language since no less than 23 languages are involved.
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Delete per nom and Marcocapelle.
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Merge per nom.
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Support per nom.
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Category:63 BC disestablishments
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Delete per nom.
NLeeuw (
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Upmerge to 63 BC and 1st-century BC disestablishments.
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Delete per nom
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Nominator's rationale:WP:ARBITRARYCATWP:CROSSCAT. The words "regional" and "Spanish" take up multiple ambiguous meanings, depending on the child category. "Spanish" can mean "Spain", "Spanish nationality", "Spanish diaspora" or "Spanish language", while "regional" can mean "city", "autonomous community", "country" (Spain, Canada and the United States), "continent(s)" (Spanish America) or "archipelago" (Caribbean). This is a mishmash. If anything, we should adhere to the category tree, which is indicated by parent
Category:Culture of Spain.
Category:Culture by city in Spain and
Category:Spanish culture by autonomous community fit in that tree, and shoud be upmerged to this parent. The rest does not, and should be Purged.
NLeeuw (
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We might interpret cities as "regions" in the sense of administrative divisions, but yes. Even so, they would still be a redundant layer, so upmerging is the best course of action.
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Keep: All of my rationales for this and similar categories can be found at the
January 2023 discussion about Laura Nyro tribute albums, for which there was no consensus. I can recreate those arguments here if desired. What I would really like to do is to have a larger discussion on this and seek consensus for categorization across the various tribute albums categories. Thanks to all for their contributions.
KConWiki (
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I agree that a larger conversation is warranted. KCon, should you agree, ping me here and I'll close this conversation on this particular category. ―
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@Koavf - Sounds good to me, let me know where the discussion will be taking place. Thanks for your efforts.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only item is
Music of Navarre and La Rioja, which has been an unsourced three-sentence stub since 2005.
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Quite likely that there is potential for it. But as for now it is too early to create the category, because there aren't any British directly in
Category:Women cryptographers.
Marcocapelle (
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Upmerge for now without prejudice.
NLeeuw (
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support upmerge for now
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Category:Expressways in Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China
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Nominator's rationale: Two articles only. One of the articles is about an entirely hypothetical motorway as indicated in the entry, the other hypothetical by and beyond the straits. Rename to hypothetical expressways of the People's Republic of China.
121.202.28.169 (
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Comment. The IP hasn't tagged the nominated category.
Mason (
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Thanks, I had overlooked that. I have tagged it now.
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Delete, a road doesn't exist in a notional entity. Already covered in an existing category as mentioned, although other parent categories might also apply.
CMD (
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Comment: Is there any category for notional matters of this country?
58.152.55.172 (
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Delete per Marco. IP, what's your goal here? You have better things to do with your time than this.
Mason (
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Matters related to that country which makes the irredentist claims gotta be identified with that country itself. These matters do not belong to the actual location to which they are designated by that country.
58.152.55.172 (
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The target category you may be looking for would be Cross-strait relations.
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Rename per nom. Well-spotted and argued.
NLeeuw (
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Rename, while this involved quite a few disasters after all, the proposed name better reflects what is meant here.
Marcocapelle (
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Thanks! that is very helpful. Does that capitalization rule also include collective nouns? So like Indigenous group or Indigenous tribe or Indigenous organization?
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Nominator's rationale: The vast majority of these matches actually took place outside of the Las Vegas city limits.
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Marcocapelle, would you be opposed to the rename if the category is not merged? —
Qwerfjkltalk 12:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Fair question. In principle diffusing by Las Vegas Valley does not make a lot of sense because the far majority of human activity in Nevada takes place there. But, considering nominator's rationale, closing this as no consensus is the worst possible outcome. So the answer to the question is no, I would not be opposed.
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Oppose: Honestly, looking at shows in this category, half of these seem to be not really surround narration about vampires. is Duck Dodgers, Adventure Time, Gravedale High, Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi really "about vampires" or various topics that happen to include a vampire? The previous title seems to match this relatively small cycle of tv series.
Andrzejbanas (
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I mean, those topics would not be
WP:DEFINING anyway and should probably be removed.
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Purge and rename per above discussion.
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Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for now. These categories were all made by the same user for the page
Golaghat highway accident, who has been advised to not create duplicate/single page categories. There is no need to have a category with a single page in it. If not merged, the categories should be renamed to "Golaghat district".
Mason (
talk) 21:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Question What's China got to do with it? Don't you mean India?
NLeeuw (
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Good question! @
Nederlandse Leeuw I was basing it off of the category it was already in (
Disasters in China by province). But, obviously, the target should be Disasters in India. I'll also update the category... to reflect reality
[1].
Mason (
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Haha thanks. The name "Golaghat" didn't seem very Chinese to me, and it all seemed to have happened in India, so I had to ask.
NLeeuw (
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Just delete 1 and Merge 2 per Marcocapelle.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge or delete. This isn't helpful for navigation to carve out two abbeys that are associated with a saint
Mason (
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Oppose The abbeys and the saint are two different concepts. What's the issue to have different categories?
Yann (
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There shouldn't be two categories as this is largely a matter of
WP:SHAREDNAME. It is merely a coincidence that one of the two articles does contain some legendary information about Saint Anthony the Great.
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Nominator's rationale: The only item is child
Category:European-American gangs right now, and all of them are groups that were or are active in the United States. This doesn't fit in parents
Category:Crime in Europe or
Category:Culture of Europe. No doubt there are what you might call "gangs" in Europe, but they are not to be found in this category. For this, the
Category:Gangs in Europe already exists. But I don't think a merger would make much sense, as there is little overlap between the two.
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Support per nom.
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Nominator's rationale:WP:OVERLAPCAT. Same scope. Note: I've speedied the target category to be renamed to
Category:Culture of Mexico by state. If approved, I will change the target in this nomination. But I think the situation is simple enough to already propose this merger. DoneNLeeuw (
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Merge and purge the Basque subcat, per nom.
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Category:I-Kiribati chiefs
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Nominator's rationale:merge, currently only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation between articles.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge per nom.
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Nominator's rationale: Category with only one entry.
PepperBeast(talk) 11:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. It is not useful to categorize the article by language since no less than 23 languages are involved.
Marcocapelle (
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Delete per nom and Marcocapelle.
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Category:Irish people of Antigua and Barbuda descent
Category:Islands of the Caribbean part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands
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Merge per nom.
NLeeuw (
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Support per nom.
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Category:Service industries in the Dutch Caribbean
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Category:63 BC disestablishments
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Delete per nom.
NLeeuw (
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Upmerge to 63 BC and 1st-century BC disestablishments.
58.152.55.172 (
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Delete per nom
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Category:Regional Spanish culture
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Nominator's rationale:WP:ARBITRARYCATWP:CROSSCAT. The words "regional" and "Spanish" take up multiple ambiguous meanings, depending on the child category. "Spanish" can mean "Spain", "Spanish nationality", "Spanish diaspora" or "Spanish language", while "regional" can mean "city", "autonomous community", "country" (Spain, Canada and the United States), "continent(s)" (Spanish America) or "archipelago" (Caribbean). This is a mishmash. If anything, we should adhere to the category tree, which is indicated by parent
Category:Culture of Spain.
Category:Culture by city in Spain and
Category:Spanish culture by autonomous community fit in that tree, and shoud be upmerged to this parent. The rest does not, and should be Purged.
NLeeuw (
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We might interpret cities as "regions" in the sense of administrative divisions, but yes. Even so, they would still be a redundant layer, so upmerging is the best course of action.
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Category:Victoria Williams tribute albums
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Keep: All of my rationales for this and similar categories can be found at the
January 2023 discussion about Laura Nyro tribute albums, for which there was no consensus. I can recreate those arguments here if desired. What I would really like to do is to have a larger discussion on this and seek consensus for categorization across the various tribute albums categories. Thanks to all for their contributions.
KConWiki (
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I agree that a larger conversation is warranted. KCon, should you agree, ping me here and I'll close this conversation on this particular category. ―
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@Koavf - Sounds good to me, let me know where the discussion will be taking place. Thanks for your efforts.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only item is
Music of Navarre and La Rioja, which has been an unsourced three-sentence stub since 2005.
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Quite likely that there is potential for it. But as for now it is too early to create the category, because there aren't any British directly in
Category:Women cryptographers.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Upmerge for now without prejudice.
NLeeuw (
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support upmerge for now
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Category:Expressways in Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China
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Nominator's rationale: Two articles only. One of the articles is about an entirely hypothetical motorway as indicated in the entry, the other hypothetical by and beyond the straits. Rename to hypothetical expressways of the People's Republic of China.
121.202.28.169 (
talk) 12:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. The IP hasn't tagged the nominated category.
Mason (
talk) 23:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Thanks, I had overlooked that. I have tagged it now.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Rename or delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (
talk · he/him) 00:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete, a road doesn't exist in a notional entity. Already covered in an existing category as mentioned, although other parent categories might also apply.
CMD (
talk) 07:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment: Is there any category for notional matters of this country?
58.152.55.172 (
talk) 08:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete per Marco. IP, what's your goal here? You have better things to do with your time than this.
Mason (
talk) 22:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Matters related to that country which makes the irredentist claims gotta be identified with that country itself. These matters do not belong to the actual location to which they are designated by that country.
58.152.55.172 (
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The target category you may be looking for would be Cross-strait relations.
46.226.162.228 (
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Category:Wikipedians who are sick of blue categories
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Category:Wikipedians who enjoy cracking wise with categories
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