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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Creator bypassed AfC nomination process after numerous failed attempts to prove notability. This article is also to circumvent the salting of Blake Alma, a 2013 attempt at creation. Wylie pedia 23:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was merged to OkCupid, until such time as substantial content develops. Although a reasonable number of sources exist to show that the word exists and has a consistent definition, no showing has been made that the article can be increased beyond the current dicdef. It has been pointed out that this word has been used in contexts outside of OkCupid, but it remains clear that the primary association of the word is with OkCupid, and other uses can be discussed in the context of its origination with that website. bd2412 T 02:50, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Term is WP:NEO and is mainly used in reference to dating websites like OkCupid, as all of the sources in the article show. Although a few scholars have mentioned the term to document that it exists, it is not a term that academics use. It is not a sexual orientation. The current entry is also a WP:Dictionary entry. This topic can be easily covered in the Online dating service article. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 23:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

Indy beetle, what is there to state about the term beside the fact that it is a category used on some dating websites? WP:Stubs are not ideal. Per WP:Neo, neither are articles on neologisms. And per WP:No page, not every article needs its own Wikipedia page. This one certainly does not. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 00:26, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Merging also exists, which is why I noted that this topic can be easily covered in the Online dating service article. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 00:30, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete. The article is too esoteric and lacks widespread and in-depth coverage. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a passing fad in terms of it being a term. It is a case of Wikipedia:Too soon at the very least. Knox490 ( talk) 06:29, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Weak Delete and Soft-Redirect to Wiktionary. Clearly a neologism (from 5-ish years ago), but used well beyond OKCupid, so a redirect there would be inappropriate. (the "Further reading" shows examples, though that section has obvious issues). A soft-redirect to Wiktionary seems to be the best option here, as I see no content other than a WP:DICTDEF here. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 16:46, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    Comment I've just seen [3] (via Hacker News) about this. I have no prejudice against re-creation with better sources in the future. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - DictDef. Or Non Notable Neologism. Pick one. Carrite ( talk) 03:20, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Passes WP:GNG - all WP:NEO says is that there must be secondary sources on it - which do exist. It does not put a especially higher standard for neologisms, just that merely being used is not enough. I think there's also enough on cultural perception etc for WP:WORDISSUBJECT. Stuff like With increased visibility has come a backlash: Some say declaring a sexual preference based on intelligence is pretentious, elitist or insulting to people with disabilities. etc. As powerenwiki pointed out, there's a journal artice on it published in Intelligence (journal) [4] that uses the term. Could add some information from that. Won't be a huge article but that shouldn't matter. I think there's enough for a criticism section from articles, history section on its first use and emergence as a term, and psychology section using that study. There's easily enough coverage unrelated to okcupid, not sure where that's from. Not sure if I'll have the time now to expand on it - I'd request userfication if it's deleted and I'll see about expanding it if i can. Like this daily dot article says - Sapiosexual: It’s the latest sexual identity causing a lot of controversies. You may have heard of it from OkCupid, which has included it as a sexual orientation on its dating platform, or from the Daily Beast’s Samantha Allen, who criticized the term’s very existence. Or maybe you stumbled across the New York Times‘ sapiosexual exposé from June 2017, exploring what it means to be more attracted to someone’s brain over their looks. Not just okcupid. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 08:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. The topic clearly is "worthy of notice" given the discussion in the New York Times, etc—this means it passes our general notability guidelines for inclusion in Wikipedia. Currently the article is a stub and dictionary definition; however, the article can and should be expanded rather than deleted. Malinaccier ( talk) 00:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Note: See Talk:Sapiosexuality for Czar's take on the concept's notability and the article's possibility for expansion. Malinaccier ( talk) 00:46, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete--a few recent write-ups (well, old ones, and no new ones--so it hasn't really caught on) do not make for a subject that meets the GNG; we're falling victim to a recentist addiction to fairly trivial mentions. If this weren't trivial, we'd have more and more serious hits in books etc. than this footnote--which isn't better than our article (and makes me question Wiley). I have, however, ordered a copy of this book--mreow. Drmies ( talk) 00:51, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - despite the Delete and Salt SNOW vote on the last (3rd) AfD, the term appears to now be a notable thing. This just popped up today in the Daily Mail. [ [5]] From the article: The term 'sapiosexual' has recently received widespread media attention and speculation as it grows in popularity. And this yesterday: [ [6]] TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Does not appear notable with significant coverage in independent sources either as an actor ( WP:ACTOR) or an artist ( WP:NARTIST) Boneymau ( talk) 23:34, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Can't see the claim to notability here, and no significant coverage in independent sources. She played minor roles in a number of stage works and performed with live shows for Disney. I can't find independent corroboration of playing the role Marianne in Shout!, she certainly didn't originate the role. She does not appear to be credited on the Sardi single. Boneymau ( talk) 21:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was kept. bd2412 T 03:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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This subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:FILMMAKER. Source searches are only providing passing mentions. North America 1000 21:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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Indian editors can help to find sources but even the sources that I have posted are in my opinion enough. I was considering erring on the side of caution as this is a biography of a living person and he may meet TOOSOON but there are probably sources out there that are hard to access and often need custom searches or perhaps there is more stuff in print only (unlikely in my opinion). I'm unsure why all the sources I have found are post-September; maybe it's a problem with my search. I don't think the sources are quite passing mention in response to NA1000's statement.
In conclusion, yes he fails WP:DIRECTOR but he does pass the general notability guideline and thus whether he passes WP:CREATIVE or not is moot. Also, he may pass WP:JOURNALIST (same as CREATIVE, DIRECTOR, and FILMMAKER) under criterion 4c: The person's work (or works) has [sic] won significant critical attention due to his numerous awards for journalism (let's hope they're not made up). J 947 ( c · m) 22:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • I think it should be G Prajesh Sen from my searches, and it definitely confused me but I think they are the same. Also, his role as a journalist seems to be the main source of coverage. J 947 ( contribs · mail) 22:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was Merge to Outer Hebrides#Transport which I've already done [7] (non-admin closure)Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:25, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Non notable bus company, Fails GNG – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 20:21, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Recreation of a previously deleted article. Still no reliable, third-party sources to establish notability, largely promotional and supported only by self-published fringe sources. Famous dog (c) 19:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete looks like a classic promotional article. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete without prejudice to re-creation, preferably as a redirect  The article itself uses future tense, and after reading [8], suggests that the article's future tense is advancing a split from the founding ideas of NLP.  For reference, one of the two primary sources is a biography with extensive detail, [9], and the second is written by the topic.
    As for the topic itself, reading the article on NLP shows analysis that reaches into concepts of religion, just as the second primary source lists "Spiritual" as an additional layer of the "NeuroLogical levels".  The NLP article's mention of New Age quasi-religion fits in with the topic's association with University of California at Santa Cruz.  The NLP article has 11 cites to the topic at hand.  I see that the topic at hand has been translated into Russian, German, French, and Italian.  I find in Google searches that the topic has a patent regarding biofeedback, and the primary-source biography couples his work with the biofeedback game "Wild Divine", a topic with Ghits in Google Scholar.  Certainly Wikipedia notable as per the lede and nutshell; although if we are having trouble getting a standalone article on the topic, space could be created at NLP to identify him in a section called HistoryUnscintillating ( talk) 22:07, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete this is a CV with a few promotional sentences tacked on. No claim of meeting WP:NAUTHOR. No independent references, and I was unable to find any. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 17:02, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
No opinion on whether a redirect to Neuro-linguistic programming is appropriate. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 17:03, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam. Redirection is the appropriate action per WP:ATD-R and the absence of BLP concerns. A Train talk 18:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Clearly does not meet WP:GNG, and certainly doesn't pass WP:NSOLDIER. Onel5969 TT me 19:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:53, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails notability criteria, all the press is about his death, so WP:BIO1E applies. Onel5969 TT me 19:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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While an interesting footnote to the cold war, simply not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 19:13, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. A Train talk 19:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Minor tv personality who doesn't meet WP:GNG, and certainly doesn't meet either WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:NSOLDIER, or WP:NPOL. Onel5969 TT me 19:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete non-notable mayor and TV anchorman. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 23:37, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment  The Illinois legislature is filled with notable people who gave the topic attention, but I'm having trouble finding sources on Google.  [ This page provides something he did as mayor.  WGN is a 50,000 watt radio station, which at night can be heard over most of the populated US and I assume Canada.  WGN-TV went on the air in 1948, so was one of the earliest broadcasters.  His father was associated with the Tribune newspaper.  It seems likely that someone with access to Chicago newspaper archives would have a chance of finding more on this topic.  Unscintillating ( talk) 04:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete unless the article sees significant improvement. Neither being a smalltown mayor nor being a single-market local TV or radio personality is an automatic notability pass that entitles a person to keep an article that's this weakly sourced. And saying that improved sourcing might be possible is not enough in and of itself to get an article kept, either — somebody needs to show the evidence that enough sourcing to get him over GNG does exist, preferably by actually improving the article but at least by showing some hard results from an actual search of Chicago newspaper archives in this discussion, and it is not enough to just theorize that maybe better sources might exist. Bearcat ( talk) 04:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. WP:NSPORT is met, no consensus about WP:SOLDIER. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki ( π, ν) 17:19, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Uncited. Does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NSOLDIER. Onel5969 TT me 19:02, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Per source searches and citation checks, this subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:NACADEMIC. North America 1000 18:18, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Katie talk 20:21, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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Unnecessary spin-out articles of List of National Weather Service Weather Forecast Offices. Provides little additional information. The offices on their own fails WP:ORG, an office does not inherit notability from the National Weather Service. Also sourcing in these articles are either limited or non-existent. Some articles likely contain WP:OR. Rusf10 ( talk) 17:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The Chicago, IL article is little more than a list of radio stations. The Lincoln, IL is one of the better written articles, but I still believe it fails WP:ORG.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 19:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Articles seem to be well sourced, though to non-independent (government) sources. Also, as with most mass-noms, there are issues with some likely having better sources out there than others and there are not links to previous AfDs. Hobit ( talk) 20:43, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep By far a WP:SOFIXIT proposition rather than full deletion for any of these (especially major city offices and Norman, Oklahoma, which the nom seems to have failed to do the most basic of WP:BEFORE and most know as the major research center/forecast authority for tornadoes in the United States; same with Miami and the National Hurricane Center). Nate ( chatter) 22:15, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
@ Mrschimpf:I think you may have confused the local NWS office in Norman, OK with the Storm Prediction Center (also located in Norman, OK), I believe they are two separate offices.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 23:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Whatever their connection is, you have 20+ sources in the Norman NWS article and they definitely don't have a stone wall between them. Nate ( chatter) 23:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
The Norman article is not quite as good as it appears on the surface. It starts off with a mostly unsourced history section, then it goes into a discussion about a notable weather event which already has its own article, next comes a description of its website (this section should just be deleted regardless), and then a list of radio stations. That's it, almost all of the sources are the NWS website.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 23:28, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep Would be throwing away an enormous amount of valuable and perfectly notable work. Unnecessary spin-out really. What is the purpose of any encyclopedia if not for spin out articles. scope_creep ( talk) 18:23, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Apart from most of the articles have many valid sources this AfD bundling is in the territory of WP:TRAINWRECK which hinders meaningful assessment of individual article and further worsen the AfD process. I will support examining each on its merit or at most 3 in AfD. Saying they contain OR is hasty generalization (which is caused by the bundling) and did not match what I see in many of the articles – Ammarpad ( talk) 01:36, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Chronic deletionism at its worst from one of our most strident deletionists. Sadly, Rusf10 has made admonished after having made previous bulk nominations and has too often failed to make the most basic analysis required by WP:BEFORE. Above and beyond failing to look for sources for each of the articles bundled into this nomination, it's unclear if there was even an effort to read articles such as National Weather Service Lincoln, Illinois, National Weather Service Miami, Florida and National Weather Service Norman, Oklahoma, which are indisputably notable. An out-and-out ban on AfD for Rusf10 should be seriously considered to end the further abuse of process. Alansohn ( talk) 02:18, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Mr. Sohn (I know you don't like me calling you by your first name), do you have an actual policy reason to keep these? Because that is an outright personal attack and nothing else.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 02:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Read WP:OUTING and start using my full username; this is not the first time that you have violated WP:HARASS and this is an explicit final warning. The policy argument is that this bulk nomination is an abuse of process from an editor who has been warned previously about bulk nominations. Alansohn ( talk) 03:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Hey you picked your username, not me.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 03:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Sherlock, the user name is eight characters and makes no indication of how it is to be parsed; that's based solely on you;re attempts to disclose information about me in violation of WP:OUTING. Read WP:HARASS and follow it; else dig your own grave. As you seem to be following me around, you'll see that I have participated in AfDs above and beyond those included in your initial threats aimed at me, both now and for the past dozen years. When a bulk AfD popped up, I was astounded to see that an editor like you who had already been warned against making abusive bulk deletions was at it again. I thus participated. Alansohn ( talk) 03:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
So you just admitted you decided to participate after you saw I nominated it. Youre clearing following me around (not the other way around), but that's okay.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 03:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Bulshit, dude. I said I saw a bulk nomination on AfD and was surprised to see your name on it after I had edited the nom. Remember Sherlock that you're the one who promised to delete articles because you believed they were connected to me (see this threat, as a reminder). Take a look at how participation is tracking here and tell me where consensus is? Are you going to withdraw the nomination or will you just keep battling away in the true spirit of disruptive deletionism? Alansohn ( talk) 04:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Clearly a WP:SOFIXIT. Given the size of the city and the various other similar articles for similar sized cities, I don't see why the article was ever nominated for deletion. The National Wealther Service does important work. Deletionism at its worst is at play here. Knox490 ( talk)
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The result was delete. After relisting, consensus has developed that the article fails WP:OR and doesn't have proper attribution for copying within Wikipedia. ansh 666 19:47, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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The phrase "frontier strip" appears to have been invented solely for this Wikipedia namespace. I can not find any historical or scholarly examples of the phrase "frontier strip" being used in relation to the United States, and as far as I can tell the phrase "frontier strip" does not appear in any of the article's listed references . The small number of Google search hits (regular search, books and scholar) for "frontier strip" appear to be traceable back to this article, with the exception of some references that are clearly about other countries.

In sum, this page's definition of a "frontier strip" is not a recognized grouping of U.S. states. In addition, the general topic is already thoroughly reviewed by American frontier and other state and regional pages. Thomas H. White ( talk) 15:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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I agree--it should be deleted. I cannot find any usage. Rjensen ( talk) 15:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Rename to something, I'm not sure what, or Merge into American Frontier. Leave no redirect from "Frontier Strip". Looking at newspapers.com, frontier strip seems to be a term occasionally used to describe regions near frontlines of battles, but I agree it doesn't work here. Also, the "Last American Frontier", which is used to in this article, generally refers to Alaska and not this region. Smmurphy( Talk) 16:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Rename / Merge - this is a difficult one - as this article dates back to 2005 making Wikipedia->source contamination quite an issue. I have found some sources referring to these as "Frontier Strip". Post 2005: [13] [14] [15] [16]. But I am unable to find older sources using this name for Texas to Dakota. Icewhiz ( talk) 17:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC) Modified to delete as it seems most the contents are copy pssted from other wiki articles. Icewhiz ( talk) 20:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Rename- Unfortunately this article has been around for a long time and people have put a lot of work into it. However, it seems to be a made-up name for geographic region. I think the easier thing to do would be to move the page to American Great Plains. Alternately candidates for merges would be American Frontier (as above) or Great Plains (although this article includes Canada too, which is why I prefer the rename).-- Rusf10 ( talk) 23:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
How about renaming to History of the Great Plains or History of the American Great Plains (I think the former is better right now, since American Great Plains redirects to Great Plains). This would be a minor repurposing, with frontier strip replaced with great plains in the text and the image perhaps replaced with File:Map of the Great Plains.png. The description section doesn't really have anything not in Great Plains, and this page would, I think, be better kept separate but referred to in the history section of that article. Smmurphy( Talk)
While most of the article deals with history, some things would not fit into an article titled "History of". That's why I'd prefer renaming to "American Great Plains" with a hatnote at the top going to the existing "Great Plains" article.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 15:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
I agree, but American Great Plains already exists (is a redirect to Great Plains). As I meant to say, the non-history stuff from this article could be merged into that article, except it is already there, so it can just be trimmed in this article. Smmurphy( Talk) 16:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Merge each section into the history section of a relevant state or region article such as American West or Great Plains. See Below The edit history of this article is eye-opening: The original is nothing more than a list of states accompanied by an unsourced and speculative explanation. A later revision attempts to attribute it to the US Census, but this is also fails to support the grouping of the states. Everything else seems to be a mishmash of events that occurred within or around this group of states, but there is still nothing that ties it together as a cohesive region. – dlthewave 21:05, 20 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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Not really, but destroy the history; Cheers -- J. D. Redding 20:20, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. I'm withdrawing this; I ma nominate in a year or two when opinion about promotionalism becomes more rational DGG ( talk ) 23:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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essentially promotional , so it violates NOT ADVERTISING, one of our fundamental policies. I do not know whether or not it's really notable, but it doesn't matter. notability is secondary to basic policy WP:NOT. The previous discussion argued on the grounds of notability, but I do not see why. DGG ( talk ) 16:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy keep. I'm withdrawing this; I see the reaction to the sockpuppettry has caused an unfortunate-- but I hope temporary -- change in our views on promotionalism. I'll probably renominate once we return to rationality. DGG ( talk ) 00:01, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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very small chain, with only the expected local coverage except for inclusion on lists . The previous discussion was closed because of sockpuppettry, but that shouldn't prevent an immediate renomination. DGG ( talk ) 16:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - per my !vote on the previous nomination. Non-notable as a chain, but main location notable as a significant tourist attraction in Nashville. I've never been there, I don't like "hot chicken", but I recognized the topic from reading somewhere. In my estimation it is a topic likely to be looked up by readers looking for encyclopedic information. Meets GNG comfortably. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Plenty of substantial national and local coverage from established sources, and it is regularly noted as one of the main culinary attractions in Nashville. And in reading through the previous deletion discussion it was very heavily influenced by misleading arguments and analysis from sockpuppets.-- Bernie44 ( talk) 19:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep There's substantial coverage to establish notability as already shown above. And I believe any article that's not G11'ble, that's means it is promotional tone is fixable if there's any. And existence of more sources already shown both in the previous AfD and here. – Ammarpad ( talk) 19:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • keep its fine. i trimmed a bunch of padding about hot chicken but it meets GNG for sure. Jytdog ( talk) 20:42, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. I don't see the promotional tone here but this is a clear WP:NORG fail. No prejudice against recreation with better sources. A Train talk 20:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Nothing of significant kind to pass WP:NORG. Störm (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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So where is coverage to pass WP:NORG? Störm (talk) 12:24, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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A defunct amateur club. Does not pass either wp:gng or WP:NFOOTY. Onel5969 TT me 16:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Pure listcruft. I checked the first couple names in most of the sections and none are notable. Page is unsourced, and save for one bluelink is a dead end. I see nowhere to go with this. Primefac ( talk) 16:13, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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All references are in non- reliable sources. WP:BEFORE turns up credulous reports of amazing psychic powers but no actual evidence. A large portion of the current article has no cites and the sources of the claims are not verifiable. Fails the Biographies of Living Persons policy and even general notability is very doubtful. While it is undoubtedly possible for fraudulent psychics, etc. to become notable (e.g., Jeane Dixon), the coverage of this boy does not appear to rise to the necessary level as yet. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:00, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to Preludes (Messiaen). There appears to be some content in this article that's not present at the redirect target but yes, power~enwiki is correct, this could have been handled at the article's talk page. A Train talk 20:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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There is already an article about the set of 8 preludes that contain this piece. This article adds nothing to it. Squandermania ( talk) 15:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:52, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Wayne Sisk was a junior NCO in E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) during World War II; his rank ( sergeant) and lack of high-level awards (highest Bronze Star Medal) make him non-notable under WP:SOLDIER; he was mentioned in Ambrose's Band of Brothers as being involved in the killing of a Nazi officer in Austria under orders of the company commander, Ronald Speirs. Post-war, he was ordained as a Baptist minister but, outside his local area in West Virginia, enjoyed little notability; his wife appeared in local news stories more often than Sisk himself. He was portrayed in nine of the ten episodes of the miniseries. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 14:09, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:24, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Businessman who does not seem to meet WP:GNG. Appears to be written by an editor with an undeclared conflict of interest. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 13:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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This article is sourced entirely to 2 primary sources, and the google hits aren't very promising. In addition, an editor claiming to be the subject insists that the information is largely incorrect; an assertion that is difficult to dismiss without quality sources to check. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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@ Rusf10: Don't feel bad. My first interaction with this article was when a person claiming to be the BLP in question asked for information to be changed. I had literally started to comment "RUN!! It's a zombie!!" before I noticed the spelling and checked the article. Luckily, I hadn't hit "Publish changes" yet. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:35, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment I've found some local news articles such as [27] and there are mentions in news articles outside of the region such as Washington Post [28] and The News-Gazette / Champaign-Urbana [29] The stuff the editor wrote saying things were incorrect were mainly concerning his degrees at educational institutions. He still was a conductor for Atlanta, Emory, and LaGrange [30] AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 02:34, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was procedural close. I didn’t even find evidence that this page ever existed. I have, however, flagged your user page per U1, if that’s what you want. ( non-admin closure) LaundryPizza03 ( talk) 13:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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This page is useless ChristiWilken ( talk) 12:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ben · Salvidrim!  15:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Of the hundreds of Bitcoin wallets available, this defunct wallet does not stand out. Notability not established. Ysangkok ( talk) 12:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Keep has plenty of reliable sources coverage in the article such as CBS, USA Today, CNN, PC Magazine, NYT blog (blogs are allowed from NYT). I don't see any mention of bitcoin in the article. Atlantic306 ( talk) 13:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 20:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Seems to be a non-notable lawyer who unsuccessfully represented a client in an action against a celebrity, and failed to win a nomination to the Senate. I don't believe he meets WP:GNG. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 12:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. The rule of law is important and he does appear to be politically/civically engaged, but given the overabundance of lawyers now, he really has to separate himself from the pack. He fails to do this. I don't see adequate in-depth coverage from reliable sources. Knox490 ( talk) 03:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete defeated candidates for state legislature are not notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Where I live I see his commercials (and just recently I hired a lawyer like Steinger to represent me after I was struck by a car while out for my morning walk) for his law firm all the time. That said, not notable lawyer and failed politician. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment An article on this person was previously deleted after an AFD. The discussion can be found here. I nominated this article for speedy deletion and suggest both articles be SALTED if this edition is deleted again. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:22, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Condorito. (non-admin closure) Ben · Salvidrim!  14:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Completely WP:INUNIVERSE (except for the first sentence), unreferenced, some WP:OR, no indication of real-world notability. At the very least, could be redirected to Condorito along with the other two town names mentioned in the article; that’s why I didn’t PROD it. LaundryPizza03 ( talk) 12:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedily deleted under criteria A7 and G11. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:43, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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no indication of either CORP or GNG here. This is simply an advitorial John from Idegon ( talk) 10:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 12:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:NACTOR. Run-of-the-mill actor. Edwardx ( talk) 14:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 12:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable voice actor whose filmography consists of minor roles. No reliable third-party sources cited to support any claims. Does not pass WP:NACTOR or WP:NOTE. Disputed prod — Farix ( t |  c) 01:20, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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So based on this, he does not meet WP:ENT Chances of finding featured news articles about him are slim. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 17:32, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Weak keep or draftify - Considering his lack of major roles, he arguably does not pass WP:ENT. He does however, been covered in at least two Japanese-language sources: this and this. Both are interviews, and consensus is mixed on whether or not interviews are enough to establish notability, but these do exist. Non-interview sources were harder to find, but some do exist, like this one. With the sourcing available and the fact that Japanese voice acting coverage can be limited to begin with, the coverage out there might just be enough to pass at the very least WP:GNG. If consensus is not to keep, I would suggest draftifying the article instead of complete deletion in case he gets more roles and/or gets more coverate in the future. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 02:13, 16 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Existing references are completely insufficient for a WP:BLP. The "wait-and-see" approach advocated by BabbaQ is not appropriate for a BLP. A Train talk 13:19, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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No evidence of any notability. He does appear to have written some songs performed by others, but there is no evidence that any reliable and independent sources have written about him. Appears to be competent jobbing song writer. Has been templated since September 2017 as needing sources. Searches only reveal the same sort of material - track listings etc. Fails WP:GNG   Velella   Velella Talk   00:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • There is a difference between wanting sources and non notability. A article could nedd more sources and still be notable like in this case. This article passes WP:GNG. AfD is not a clean-up service. BabbaQ ( talk) 19:59, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 12:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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I do not believe this article meets the general notability guidelines. I have been keeping track of this subject for a while hoping to be able to create an article on it someday, but only one reliable source has ever covered it (that being Bloody Disgusting, twice: [34] [35]). Nearly all of the citations currently used in the article are primary sources linking to the webcomic itself, Tapastic, Tumblr, Youtube, etc. There is also this blog post, which is not a reliable source and this top list, which is not reliable or notable either. Seeing as Erma does not meet the general notability guidelines, this article should be deleted. It is unfortunate, seeing as how much work seems to have gone into it. ~ Mable ( chat) 09:59, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Yep. It's borderline, but both articles are pretty detailed. Technically qualifies as "multiple" and there is enough there to build an article around. But it isn't an obvious case. A !vote to delete is certainly justifiable. Hobit ( talk) 19:56, 24 December 2017 (UTC) reply
@ Hobit: I think the stronger case is that multiple articles from the same publication does not qualify as multiple sources. This is suggested by the note for the 'sources' part of GNG, which states that "a series of publications by the same author or in the same periodical is normally counted as one source." The GNG also specifically states that "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." I feel like these parts of GNG were specifically directed at clarifying what I would assume to be the common sense interpretation of 'multiple sources': what is required is different sources, independent of each other. Cjhard ( talk) 12:46, 26 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Per Hobit.
  • Delete not enough coverage in reliable sources, fails WP:N. Also, probably WP:TOOSOON. Sources are supposed to be intellectually independent of the others. This means sources are supposed to be from various publishers. Not multiple sources from the same publisher. Create this article later, when more sources emerge. --- Steve Quinn ( talk) 07:44, 28 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. A Train talk 13:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:CRYSTALBALL and GNG, can be recreated in future James ( talk/ contribs) 21:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Redirect - For now at least. It is far too soon to create these types of articles. When All-Star discussion for this game exists, it can be re-created. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 03:20, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Per WP:CRYSTAL: "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." The host city, date, and venue has been announced, and there is no reason to think the event will not be notable, as all past annual NBA All-Star Games have been. At this point, WP:IAR, as there is nothing to be gained by creating a bureaucracy to delete only to inevitably recreate again.— Bagumba ( talk) 09:25, 26 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • It is inconsistent to advocate "redirect" and state that it fails WP:DEL8, so I struck that.  I am adding that it fails WP:DEL14 and WP:Notability (events)WP:DEL14 is for WP:NOT, and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER #2 states, "most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion. For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, [or] sports...is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia."  Perhaps WP:Notability (events) gets to the core issue when it states, "In evaluating an event, editors should evaluate various aspects of the event and the coverage: the impact, depth, duration, geographical scope, [and] diversity...of the coverage."  18:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC) [Note: DEL12 changed to DEl14.  Unscintillating ( talk) 01:24, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep It is typical to keep a planned major sporting event once the date and venue has been decided, or when the process of selection is advanced to the point that the process is noteworthy. This achieves that. Trackinfo ( talk) 07:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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Since everybody else was too lazy to do so, I added the current story about the event to the article, discussing the known knowns. Trackinfo ( talk) 02:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. I'm sympathetic to the idea that the designation "key bus route" is not being set by an independent source, but one could make the same argument for List of Michelin 3-star restaurants, for example. This is not me trotting out an other-stuff-exists defense; what I am saying is that perhaps there should be an SNG discussion to decide the issue more broadly.

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Per WP:NOR. Bus routes are almost always non-notable and an article with an non-specific inclusion criteria and a selection of 15 artitrary routes. Most of the sources fail to provide an evidence of notability Ajf773 ( talk) 06:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Partial Merge to MBTA Bus. There are several other articles on Boston bus routes; I can't find any rule-based reason to keep those pages or the per-route descriptions (in the "Route list" section). However, the designation of these as "key routes" isn't WP:OR and there's enough information that it should be mentioned somewhere. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 19:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep (and rename) - The nominator appears to misunderstand the subject matter here, which I can understand given the title. This is not a subjective and original list of key bus routes in a city, it's a page describing a category of bus routes in Boston formally designated as "Key Bus Routes", a unique status with distinct features (both operationally and legally/funding-related) that differentiate them from other MBTA bus routes. Multiple reliable secondary sources confirm this usage, as indicated above. While the MBTA is a primary source, many transportation articles rely partially on primary sources for the simple reason that secondary sources just don't repeat material found in primary sources. However, since this page is more than a mere list and ask explains the history and characteristics of Key Bus Routes, I would propose removing the confusing "List of" and renaming to MBTA Key Bus Routes. I would be willing to do post-move cleanup work to better serve the new title. Shelbystripes ( talk) 14:51, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    (To be clear, I endorse keeping either way, whether the move/rename is also adopted or not.) Shelbystripes ( talk) 14:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • I understand the subject matter perfectly. The AfD questions both the criteria of key bus routes being original research and whether any of the bus routes are notable in their own right (or as a collective). It appears from all the sources presented, that the key bus routes criteria is a self published by the bus brand themselves and that notability is yet to be established as the sources are mostly trivial mentions. Ajf773 ( talk) 17:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep (or rename to MBTA Key Bus Routes program) - The article needs to be expanded to include more about the history of the program and the current improvements they're working on for these routes, but it has gotten a lot of press over the years for the reasons others have stated, including late night service and key-route-specific bus stop improvements and treatments. I don't understand the "original research" claim by the nominator as that is for editors on Wikipedia, not government agencies providing the service in question. As for "self published", where else would this information come from if not the MBTA? Other editors have provided link after link of sources from reliable news outlets outside of the MBTA's control to show the notoriety and depth of press coverage in the region. While someone in another country might not care much about a list of bus routes in a random medium-sized city in the US, can't that be said about a vast majority of articles on Wikipedia about local and regional matters? Grk1011 ( talk) 22:59, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Again. Routine coverage about night services and bus stop improvements is trivial at best. Where is some actual resources showing the history of these "key routes" from valid third party and independent (non MBTA published) sources. Wikipedia is not a bus fansite catered to a small audience. Ajf773 ( talk) 23:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Independent third party sources discussing Key Bus Routes were already provided above by another user. Shelbystripes ( talk) 05:20, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
        • Which ones, and be specific. Ajf773 ( talk) 06:59, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
          • I haven't been involved in AfDs much very recently, but you're being a bit inflammatory here. Editors can state their reasons and provide whatever backup they feel is necessary. An admin will then read over the responses and make a decision based on the apparent consensus (not votes) of the community. There is no requirement that you, as the nominator, are satisfied with the responses. Grk1011 ( talk) 19:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
            • I'm aware that an AfD is a consensus, not a vote. I am, like anyone else participating, allowed to dispute claims. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
              • Your objections have been clearly noted by now. You are coming across as berating each and every editor who votes, not adding anything new in the process, just repeating what you'd already said before they voted. Clearly not everyone agrees with your interpretation of WP:ROUTINE or WP:NOR or WP:N regarding this topic, and they should be free to express votes or ideas contrary to yours without fear of beratement. Assuming in good faith that this is not your intent, your tone and repetition still come across as hostile and may discourage editors who would disagree with you from commenting, undermining the integrity of the AfD process. Please consider the consequences of your continued aggressive responses. Newly participating editors can already consider the quality of sources provided (for example) and your objections to them, since your objections are already recorded further above in full. Shelbystripes ( talk) 19:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                • Given you understand this is a debate and I am allowed agree or disagree with everything that is added this this discussion, from where I see it. I don't see the need for you to post this, it adds nothing of value to the discussion. Ajf773 ( talk) 21:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                  • I agree with that. Those who want to keep this article need to actually produce secondary sources that specifically discuss this set of routes, instead of attacking an editor who points out the lack of significant wider secondary coverage. Charles ( talk) 22:12, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                    • The issue was that over a dozen secondary sources were linked in the various responses above, but this editor does not appear to like them, claiming they are either regional press (and somehow bad) or the source of their articles is the primary source (MBTA). I simply pointed out that asking the same question to every single commenter when it's has already been answered is disruptive. It's bizarre that we're expected by this one editor to find some outside source to prove that the MBTA has designated its own routes as key. Only the MBTA can decide that and the criteria for being "key" are listed and sourced. As a government body, its procedures are transparent. Grk1011 ( talk) 23:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                      • I have mentioned why I don't think they are up to the standard of sources required for notability. Bus routes are not notable unless there is significant and independent coverage in secondary sources. MBTA itself is a primary source. Other sources which mention things like service changes are trivial (and most of them don't even mention any of the route numbers or any mention of "key routes". As there is a lot of historical content in the article space but a lack of sources validating them, I'm still unconvinced. Ajf773 ( talk) 23:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                        • That's fine, as long as you actually understand the requirement here is not to convince you personally. Your personal approval is not necessary. Other editors clearly do accept the sources already provided, even if you don't. They're not required to convince you if you insist on remaining unconvinced. You do understand that, right? Shelbystripes ( talk) 06:32, 20 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep  Merge was discussed and rejected back in 2008 on the talk page.  The point is not to say that this topic should or should not be merged, but that it is a violation of WP:Deletion policy to use WP:DEL8 to delete topics with merge targets, and there is no argument made here for IAR.  Unscintillating ( talk) 02:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as per Charles and nom - Fails WP:NOTDIR, WP:NOTTRAVEL, WP:BUSCRUFT and WP:GNG - Back in 2014 the UK bus routes were all deleted due to a lack of notability and there's nothing different with these, Also if a passenger wants to know where a bus goes to and from then they should check the bus operators website - not an encyclopedia!, and last but not least a lot of these all become outdated anyway (One article a few years back was 5 years out of date!), In short this whole article fails GNG as well as the bus-related guidelines. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:47, 27 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    As noted above, this page is more than a mere list and is not intended to just provide route information; it's a description of a specific subset of bus routes that are treated differently than other bus routes for MBTA operational and funding purposes. To prevent confusion on this point, I proposed above that the article be moved to MBTA Key Bus Routes (and volunteered to do cleanup work to this effect). Several other editors commented in favor of this approach. Shelbystripes ( talk) 22:47, 27 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Please read the article (and perhaps a few sources) rather than rashly claiming this is a travel guide. Detailing the frequency and span-of-service standards that the agency uses is not a schedule. Giving the official names of the routes (the MBTA and its predecessors have always used number + terminal/route as the official name) is no more a travel guide than saying that Amtrak trains 1/2 is the Sunset Limited. And the map - notably not the current map - is used to illustrate that the agency considers the routes important enough to include on the rapid transit map, not as a map to actually navigate the system. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 03:14, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
All in a nutshell it's a travel guide, As you spend your time with everything MBTA it's blatantly obvious you're going to debunk everyones !votes and harp on repeating the same hymn about how it's not a travel guide and how we're all wrong- I'll save you the bother - It's a travel guide, No matter what way or which way you look at it ... it's a travel guide, As I said it includes prices, destinations, bus company names, maps ..... Telling me the map is for this and the prices are for that doesn't prove a thing - I'm judging the article on an outside perspective and how I personally percieve it. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 04:33, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Where does the article include prices? (Apart from mentioning the $10 million price tag for the Key Bus Routes Improvement Project.) XOR'easter ( talk) 19:49, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Simply linking to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a non-response and adds no value to the discussion. It's an essay (not a policy) and notes that there can be "valid or invalid" reasons for raising "other stuff exists" as an argument, and that when the point is fairly argued, "these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes." It seems to me that a valid question was raised (what distinguishes this article from an array of other articles that have been established on Wikipedia), and it is fair to expect a valid answer from you on that, not just a link to an essay that can cut both ways. Shelbystripes ( talk) 17:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • You are using circular logic and mischaracterizing the content of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. It specifically says that precedent and concistency are valid reasons to consider, and the question posed to you was what about this article makes it worthy of deletions when other similar articles exist. You completely ignored that question, and posted a link to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS instead of an actual answer. You're now taking that one step further, using the potential for some other articles to be deleted in the future, to argue that this one should be deleted now also. The fate of those AfDs is far from assured, since they haven't even begun yet. Now, can you give a valid explanation for what makes this article less notable than other articles in the same category, as you were asked? Shelbystripes ( talk) 22:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS appears to be the obvious answer from the original question. We simply do not use the existence of other articles as a basis for keeping or deleting articles. We are discussing this article on its own merits, not the merits of other articles. There are plenty of reasons already given in this discussion why I believe this article does not comply with the basic policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. Ajf773 ( talk) 10:41, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • That's not the point. Ajf773 was the one who invoked WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS to justify deleting an article. As a mere essay, it alone is not a valid reason to delete any article, when (as actually observed on WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS), "identifying articles of the same nature that have been established and continue to exist on Wikipedia may provide extremely important insight into the general concept of notability". Someone identified an entire category of similar articles, and so far no valid reason has been given for disregarding that whole category of articles when considering this particular AfD. Shelbystripes ( talk) 22:21, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
My point in bring up the category is that there are 64 lists of bus routes in that US based category (and more globally). Other than this one, I haven't found one that has been taken to AfD. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Key MBTA bus routes dating back to 2006, meaning this has been around for, actually 12 and a half years. Poor wikipedia has been in disrepute for all this time because of its existence (that's sarcasm). It also means this one has been taken to AfD twice now. Again, what makes this one special? At the time it was saved as no consensus, even though there were 5 Keeps to 3 Deletes. One of the Delete votes commented astutely; "Delete its a bag of crap.", another was just "per nom", so the argument of that third delete vote had to be a doozey to outweigh all those Keeps. One Keep respondent noted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Buses route 1 which was a Speedy Keep-Withdrawn. If you are prepared to take all of those 64+ lists to AfD, then that is a different wholesale discussion. Otherwise the long term existence of all of this stuff proves a de facto validity to keeping these lists. Trackinfo ( talk) 05:46, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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Certainly, so someone in the delete camp needs to explain why this list is deficient, not arguing that the general concept of such a list should be deleted. Trackinfo ( talk) 15:36, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
If the content comes from external sources, it's not original research, even if those sources were published in Boston (which not all of them were). XOR'easter ( talk) 16:33, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
"Certainly, so someone in the delete camp needs to explain why this list is deficient" .... we have ... a good 2-3 times, If you want to ignore policy based reasons then that's up to you but asking everyone to repeat their reasons again and again and again is disruptive, You have your answers above and you have also have solid policy-based !Delete arguments bove .... unlike the !Keeps which are all essentially "Keep because WP:ITSNOTABLE". – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 18:21, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
You are failing to understand that the set of routes taken together need secondary sources. Urban planning studies are primary sources. Charles ( talk) 19:22, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
We already have two references not from the MBTA that discuss the grouping of these routes into a common category. In fact, that's what the list is sourced to at the moment. The point of citing references that discuss specific routes within that category is to make historical information available about those specific routes — information that is independent of the MBTA and not characteristic of a travel guide. XOR'easter ( talk) 19:41, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Per WP:NOR 45 sources, many of them from government agencies but multiple government agencies reporting this information. Clearly refuted.
Bus routes are almost always non-notable proved false by the existence of the 64 other lists I identified.
an article with an non-specific inclusion criteria and a selection of 15 artitrary routes. Most of the sources fail to provide an evidence of notability. the sources I found in a simple Google search shows these are specifically identified routes based on federal, state, associated cities and the agency itself. The identification of these routes are sourced in the article dating back to 2006, clearly a dozen years before the NOM. Did you really read that? So the basis of the entire NOM is disingenuous to begin with.
Delete per WP:OR, WP:NOTGUIDE, WP:NOTTRAVEL and above all WP:N an astute echo of the NOM.
Delete as per Charles and nom - Fails WP:NOTDIR, WP:NOTTRAVEL, WP:BUSCRUFT and WP:GNG Another echo. And there is no WP:BUSCRUFT, you made that up. Following that, yes, finally there is a true statement Category:Lists of bus routes in the United Kingdom has been decimated by noms by you Davey2010. And with a discussion by a microscopic number of commenters. What a terrible disservice to people outside of London. The perceived salt of that action is probably what is preventing the other content from reappearing. As to the statement if a passenger wants to know where a bus goes to and from then they should check the bus operators website. We, wikipedia, are the primary source of information on the internet. People come here to learn. Even locally, I am astounded how few people know the name of their local bus operator. I happen to have done a documentary that broached this subject so I have done actual research. Ok that statement was WP:OR but its also not in the article. At least here in the US, people don't know how to find the local operator. We, as the place people come for information, should have the information. Then at best they are three clicks away from finding the company, its website and the generic schedule page in varying forms of presentation (some of which absolutely suck). If editors have gone through the trouble to present this information, someone explain in actual words (rather than ambiguous essays or non-existent policy statements), what is the problem with wikipedia having this information publicly available?
I've never been to Massachusetts, I have no dog in this fight. Nor do I have a dog in UK, though I have visited decades ago. What I learn is from what is in the article, its attached sources and Google. Unlike a lot of AfDs, there is a lot of there there. I extremely dislike aggressive stupidity trying to push legitimate content off of wikipedia. Trackinfo ( talk) 22:24, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Comment - This AfD has been relisted multiple times and there is clearly, at a minimum, no consensus to delete. I propose closing the AfD without deletion. Shelbystripes ( talk) 00:10, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Comment - Shelbystripes has !voted Keep above so ofcourse they're going to say this, Consensus in my eyes is towards delete due to the GNG-failing at best however I !voted delete so shan't say what I believe. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 00:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
I'm eager for an outside observer to weigh in now. With the number of editors who have !voted Keep (and given consistent reasoning for doing so) and the utter failure of the Delete commenters to explain why this post warrants deletion when many similar articles are considered notable, I can't see anything remotely close to a Delete consensus. Perhaps someone who hasn't weighed in yet will be able to resolve this mystery. Shelbystripes ( talk) 02:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
We've explained a good 3-4 times why it should be deleted, All of the keeps are nothing more than " WP:ILIKEIT - not a valid reason to keep, Alls we need is an admin to come a long, read the consensus and smack the delete button. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 02:14, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Wow, that's almost the exact opposite of the actual discussion. One Delete commenter literally just linked to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and when pressed on the fact that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS actually says a general body of articles may be considered when evaluating notability in an AfD, basically said "Well I want to nominate those other articles for deletion too". You cannot use your hypothetical future AfDs of other similar articles to justify deleting this article. That is not how Wikipedia works. And reading the rest of the discussion, the consistency of editors weighing in against Delete, and the fact that two relistings were required and still couldn't generate consensus, I can't see how any rational person would interpret this discussion as a consensus for Delete. Shelbystripes ( talk) 02:39, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
I honestly don't believe this AfD will end up with a consensus. Ajf773 ( talk) 04:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Nor do I. XOR'easter ( talk) 17:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
I also agree that there's no consensus; the multiple different content change / merge proposals can be discussed elsewhere. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 18:01, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
Only an uninvolved admin can decide whether there is a concensus, having given due weight to policy based argument. Charles ( talk) 21:26, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 12:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    No sources cited at all and fails  WP:Notability. It is very much written like a how-to-do page. Page here: [51]. Ernestchuajiasheng ( talk) 11:24, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. While I am sympathetic to Zagalejo's arguments, there is consensus to delete the article. This may be due to the difficulty English-speaking westerners to assess the coverage of the PBA, but the current notability consensus for basketball does not include the PBA (perhaps this should change). Malinaccier ( talk) 00:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Fails WP:NBASKETBALL. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 00:03, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete Fails WP:GNG; I'm not seeing enough significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Does not meet WP:NBASKETBALL, as PBA is not one of the SNGs listed leagues.— Bagumba ( talk) 15:31, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • delete Doesn't meet any notability standards and lacks the coverage required by WP:GNG. Sandals1 ( talk) 21:26, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Weak keep Wikipedia has massive amounts of unsourced content on Filipino basketball, but I do believe a lot of this material is salvageable. In the case of Salamat, I found this, this, and this, for starters, and there's probably more material out there somewhere. I suspect that there's a massive amount of print material on Filipino basketball that most Western editors will never see. (Some tantalizing evidence here.) There's probably a lot of additional material that was once available online, but has been lost to the ages (unless you know exactly where to look in the Internet Archive). It's clear that all of this data in the Wikipedia articles isn't being passed down by oral tradition! Zagalejo ^^^ 18:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    These sources seem like routine sports reporting and are all about his hopes to get back up to the PBA, which isn't even considered a top level league. Sandals1 ( talk) 19:20, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    People keep citing WP:NBASKETBALL like it's holy scripture, but I think a case could be made for including the PBA. There is a fairly recent discussion about that here. In terms of talent, the PBA may not rank very high, but in terms of fan interest and media coverage, it's a reasonably significant league. The definition of "routine sports coverage" is a tricky one, but these articles at least go beyond the basic reporting of game scores and league transactions. Zagalejo ^^^ 20:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    It's a personal call, but I don't think 3 short articles saying he wants to get back to the PBA meets WP:GNG. Sandals1 ( talk) 20:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was keep. It would be good if the sources turned up in this discussion could make their way into the article. A Train talk 13:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    The subject fails WP:NCORP, WP:GNG due to the lack of in-depth coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The article fails WP:NOTADVERTISING. Rentier ( talk) 00:36, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was no consensus. Nothing so controversial here to warrant an extraordinary third relist. A Train talk 13:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    This page was a suggestion a while ago but I didn't create it as I found it non-notable. The mention in Kotaku is not a "significant" one but only mentions it off hand as an example of one of the crappiest games promoted by Sony. That leaves Eurogamer and Jimquisition as the only significant mentions and according to WP:VG/S "[The Jimquisiton] cannot be used to demonstrate notability. It fails WP:GNG. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 20:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was keep. Nomination rationale has been clearly rebutted by Nick Moyes. A Train talk 13:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    1) No sources 2) cannot find reliable secondary/tertiary sources on this subject suggesting it isn't that important 3) Wikipedia is not a dictionary — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvilxFish ( talkcontribs) 09:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Well, it's certainly an established term - plenty of articles on Scholar use it [53], and there's extended definitions in textbooks [54]. Whether that's enough for an article, I don't know. If not, merge to electrical conductance? At least some sort of definition (maybe in that article) would be good. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 09:52, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep I've address both long-standing flags for no sources and no links (orphan). I've also managed to find and insert quite a range of independent WP:RS to show this term is in use across a number of scientific research fields. I'd never heard of it before, but that's no reason for deletion. Nor would WP:NOTDICT apply any more, as this article has now been expanded sufficiently to being more than a mere definition. Note to nom: do remember to sign your AfDs in future, please. Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk) 02:03, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    Sorry I do normally sign my comments, must have just slipped my mind. Thank you for expanding on it I couldn't find any good secondary sources when I tried. EvilxFish ( talk) 13:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. A Train talk 13:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Struggling to find enough independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Promotional article. Edwardx ( talk) 17:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. I'm interpreting LaundryPizza03's comment as support for deletion. No prejudice against recreation as a redirect to UZi if a good article can be written there. A Train talk 13:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO and WP:MUSICBIO. This singer is notable primarily for his work as a member of the musical duo UZi. The sources cited in the article consist of primary source interviews, articles which make trivial mention of this person, or sources that support his notability through his work in the duo UZi. A online search revealed few secondary sources to support notability, independent of UZi. Magnolia677 ( talk) 14:32, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 12:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    At first glance, the number of sources create the illusion of extensive coverage. However, many of these sources are either unreliable or do not describe this musician in-depth. I'm afraid Beckner does not pass WP:GNG; his bands are not notable, his albums were released independently, and I can't find any major chart listings/awards. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 09:30, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    I also suspect that the page creator ( Mediaforthemasses) may be associated with Beckner, such as his agent or PR person. 331dot ( talk) 09:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was redirect to Dreamcatcher (band). No prejudice against restoring article if sufficient coverage can be found to warrant it. A Train talk 12:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Fall Asleep In the Mirror (without the disambiguation) was redirected to Dreamcatcher (band) a few hours ago by Explicit and was proposed for deletion on 26 December by Boleyn. I haven't looked for sources much, though there is an English-language review which may or may not have had editorial oversight. The Korean Wikipedia article has no sources, though there are probably some Korean-language reviews out there. Jc86035 ( talk) 09:25, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    Comment KpopBoy, if you disagree with a page being turned it a redirect, challenge it, don't create another article the same at a different title, that's disruptive and confusing. Boleyn ( talk) 16:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was no consensus. A Train talk 12:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Promotional article, created by a WP:SPA. Edwardx ( talk) 12:20, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    No sweat. If you have changed your mind, you could withdraw the AfD. 104.163.153.162 ( talk) 00:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Comment. The refs in the article don't support notability so I can see why this is at AFD. The refs provided above are better but still look on the weak side so i'm leaning to delete but will reserve judgement as better refs might be forthcoming. Szzuk ( talk) 21:07, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. ansh 666 06:59, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Non-notable. Non of the articles listed as reference or in google search go even an inch towards notability  — comment added by Force Radical ( talkcontribs) 10:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    I would like to note that the "sources" given by Arsh 18 consists mainly of trivial interveiw with the subject in question. Also the mention at Bharya (TV series) is unsourced .Most of the coverage the actress has received seems to be from fan mags and a few interviews from newspapers — comment added by Force Radical 🎆 talk 🎄 contribs🎆 09:09, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    Keep: Finding her funny bone on tv, Anchor-actor Alina Padikkal on her journey & Romance is not my cup of tea, I love action more: Alina Padikkil ; these articles from the most valued and taken news websites has proven that the actress is more notable to be encyclopedic. -- Arsh 18 ( talk) 12:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    I don't have any idea about Indian TV, but Bharya (TV series) suggests she is notable. She seems to be similarly notable as Ronson Vincent. Xx236 ( talk) 13:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was no consensus. Sandstein 12:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Minimal coverage, fails WP:NALBUM. Merry Christmas! Baby miss fortune 03:53, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    1. https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22805-rune-husk-ep/
    2. https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/01/of-montreal-unveil-surprise-rune-husk-ep-stream-download/
    3. https://news.avclub.com/of-montreal-releases-new-ep-with-uncharacteristically-l-1798256277
    4. https://www.axs.com/of-montreal-drop-surprise-ep-rune-husk-113000
    5. https://www.stereogum.com/1919718/stream-of-montreal-rune-husk-ep/music/album-stream/
    6. https://exclaim.ca/music/article/of_montreal_deliver_surprise_rune_husk_ep
    Enough to meet the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 19:42, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was no consensus. There's clearly no consensus to delete, so the question is whether to merge this content to Donald Trump on social media or keep it separate. But we don't have consensus about this either. The merger discussion can continue on the article talk page. Sandstein 12:32, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Listing the nicknames of people Donald Trump assigns them on Twitter is trivial at best. Jay Coop · Talk · Contributions 08:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    Here's some evidence for a GNG Keep: "Trump's nicknames for rivals, from 'Rocket Man' to 'Pocahontas,'" Fox News. Carrite ( talk) 04:52, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "It's not just 'Rocket Man.' Trump has long history of nicknaming his foes," USA Today. Carrite ( talk) 04:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "The running list of President Trump’s nicknames for political rivals," New York Daily News. Carrite ( talk) 04:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "From 'Sleepy Eyes' to 'Rocket Man', the list of nicknames Trump has invented," Singapore Straits Times. Carrite ( talk) 04:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "Presidential name-calling: What 'Little Marco' has to do with 'Rocket Man' (and nuclear weapons)," CNN. Carrite ( talk) 05:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "Did Trump nickname people in school, too?," NBC (video). Carrite ( talk) 05:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "Trump's nicknames for rivals, from 'Rocket Man' to 'Crooked Hillary.'" TownHall.com. Carrite ( talk) 05:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "No, Donald Trump Is Not Good at Nicknames," Slate.com. Carrite ( talk) 05:07, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "An illustrated guide to the weird names Trump called his rivals," Revelist.com. Carrite ( talk) 05:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    And "'Crooked Hillary,' 'Lyin' Ted Cruz': How Donald Trump Picks His Disparaging Nicknames for the Other Election Players," People magazine. Carrite ( talk) 05:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Oppose merging, especially with Donald Trump on social media, since a lot of the nicknames do not originate from his usage of social media. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 04:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Under WP:GNG given frequent coverage; unlikely to be temporary; analogous article exists for Bush; and not all on social media, so I wouldn't combine with that. Understand the concern above about his comments on mental health (and the abusive, insulting, childish nature of these nicknames) - would be all for making it clearer that these are just verbatim quotes not endorsements, if that isn't sufficiently clear, but I don't think that negates the usefulness of having an article compiling them. Perhaps more balance could be instilled, and useful context provided, by [[[editing]]] to add a prose section on commentary around/response to the insults.` Wikiminaj123 ( talk) 04:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep - The use of nicknames will be a noted historical aspect of Donald Trump and his presidency. It will be considered a major staple of his brand. It is essential that this article be kept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Flying Soda ( talkcontribs) 05:14, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Significant news coverage of this topic in aggregate - [55], [56], [57], [58], [59], etc. etc. Samsara 06:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was Keep. bd2412 T 03:07, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    DePRODed by creator. Concern was: Bit part/voice actor in animations. No in-depth sources in mainstream media. Fails WP:NACTOR. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 08:24, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Keep, original PROD rationale was incorrect, there are a number of mainstream sources on the page, not all film credits are from animations, either. I would say it passes point 1 of WP:NACTOR in part, the multiple films however is an issue, which I am looking to resolve. Dana has recently been on stage but I'm struggling to find any sources. Night fury 09:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete only one significant role, and that is as a voice actress, which just does not bring the same level of attention to the performer as live roles do. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Hmmm. I guess one could make the argument that she has "only one significant role, and that is as a voice actress", but it's both blatantly not true and it's a featured role in the Despicable Me (franchise), described as "the highest-grossing animated film franchise in box office history, and the 12th highest-grossing film franchise of all time." Again, the rush to deletionism leads editors to arrogate the role of deciding that notability is based on what they think is unimportatnt. Just because I'm uninterested in country music and have decided that being a country music performer "does not bring the same level of attention to the performer" of other forms of music (the ones I like, of course) would be a piss-poor argument for deletion of an article about a country music performer and it's equally invalid here as an excuse for deletion. The claim for notability is strong and the sources here and those available elsewhere establish that claim. Alansohn ( talk) 16:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was merge to Melbourne Beth Din. The only particularly strong keep argument is from Alansohn and there is a rough consensus to delete. However, Melbourne Beth Din is a valid redirect target (per WP:ATD-R) and since the subject is (long?) dead there are no BLP concerns from keeping the article history intact. A Train talk 21:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Sources in article are passing mentions. BEFORE doesn't bring much better (a few more passing mentions, in particular regarding his brother/sons). Heading a beth-din by self-appointment does not seem sufficient for WP:JUDGE. Icewhiz ( talk) 08:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Keep His role in his community for 40 years and certainly his role as a judge for 20 years are strong claims of notability. The source from ABC (Australian TV channel) is entirely about him and his role at the bet din. In the absence of a hierarchical structure in Judaism, most judges will be self appointed and what's relevant here is not that he appointed himself but that he was accepted by the community at large for two decades combined with the issues of how he conducted himself, all of which were covered in depth by a reliable and verifiable source. Other, similarly strong sources are also available to be added, and I'm sure that if I knew Australia better that there would be further references available. Alansohn ( talk) 16:22, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • The ABC source is a radio show from 2002 upon the dissolution of the beit din. Most beit din heads are actually not self appointed - this only happens in small or new communities. Current sources do not support GNG for this individual. Icewhiz ( talk) 20:30, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
        • I'll call bullshit here. The ABC source is the transcript of a radio show (I'm unsure how bolding impacts the quality of the source) that covers him in-depth in the context of his beit din. How it was formed is irrelevant and I'm not sure why you're passing the source of as non-print justifies blowing off the source. Alansohn ( talk) 20:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
          • The other 2 sources in the article are crap (Not only is their RSness questionable - they barely mention the guy). The ABC radio interview/roundtable is primarily about the dissolution of the beit din and prospect forward - and not about Gutnick. It is possibly usable (not sure if ABC stands behind what interviewees say - you may have to attribute) - but claiming SIGCOV off of one radio show (that is primarily about a different subject, some coverage of him)? That is a stretch. Icewhiz ( talk) 21:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep - Google Books results also show evidence of notability. Υπογράφω ( talk) 16:57, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      All 7 of them are passing mentions or directory entries - often in the context of other Gutnicks (His son, father,or brothers). Icewhiz ( talk) 20:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete- sourcing is too weak to establish notability as per Icewhiz-- Rusf10 ( talk) 01:10, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep- He is a notable person in the community, especially since his removal was not retirement but due to allegations of corruption and extortion from a print article that I could not find online. I am looking for it. An alternative because the online sources are a bit thin would be delete and I could move the information into a new article about the Melbourne Beth Din.-- smellytap 22:30, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • You do have BLPCRIME (or is he dead? You do not have a date of death issues) for the bio. I do agree that the dissolution of the beth din in 2002 would be relevant information on an article on the beth din. Icewhiz ( talk) 19:35, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Delete -- a nn individual; does not meet WP:ANYBIO / WP:GNG, for lack of sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail. A "notable person in the community" means just that: the subject is only of local interest and is not suitable for inclusion. Allegations of nepotism and running a one-man show are exactly the things we should not be putting in an article on a recently deceased person. K.e.coffman ( talk) 20:37, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete -- On reflection there is not much about this individual, and most of the publicly relevant information can be inserted into other pages. to answer the other question, he is dead. smellytap 16:41, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete not enough sources that discuss this indivdual in detail. Of course after seeing som many articles sourced only to the non-reliable IMDb, I begin to wonder if using reliable sources is still a thing on Wikipedia. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:05, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Merge to Melbourne Beth Din per WP:BIO1E. Really only notable for the allegations surrounding his role at the Beth Din, and two reliable sources (an Age article and ABC radio story) does not exactly meet the bar of significant coverage. The article is nothing more than a stub anyway. Kb.au ( talk) 06:08, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 05:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Notability issue, As most reference are from Wikipedia itself and none of them written about subject in depth. ·•· 1997 kB 03:52, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Keep References 4, 6, 7, and 10 are independent RS discussing the subject in significant depth. GNG is met. Jclemens ( talk) 05:34, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete -- both sources offered above are interviews and are not suitable for establishing notability:
    • Before he knew it. Tilton had perfected an impressive (!) blackjack strategy that was working quite well for him.
    “Necessity is the mother of invention, and the result was the creation of a virtually undetectable system, something never before documented,” he said. This discovery prompted him to write the book, “The Blackjack Life.”
    The coverage is clearly PR-driven and WP:SPIP, not independent of the subject. Sources in the article is of the same quality: "Blackjack ace from Newburyport turns to financial planning". Newburyportnews.com. Etc. Basically, promotional 'cruft on a nn individual. K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:20, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Keep The sources about him in reliable and verifiable sources establish his notability as a blackjack player / author. There are some crappy, irrelevant and promotional sourcing, but that's an issue for cleanup not an excuse for deletion. Alansohn ( talk) 19:12, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete, of the "sources" presented here as being the best, one is a primary source, and the other is pretty obvious marketing fluff. Neither are useful in demonstrating that this individual meets the WP:GNG. I don't see much better in the sources used in the article, which are either not independent of the subject, or in niche publications that look to have somewhat dubious reliability. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 02:25, 6 January 2018 (UTC). reply
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    The result was merge to List of shopping malls in Malaysia. Sandstein 12:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Another non-notable list of shopping malls. Fails WP: NOTDIR. Vnonymous ( talk) 10:45, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 12:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    None of the source prove notability. ─ 1997 kB 11:47, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 12:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    speedy declined because 'they are signed to a notable label', in this case an only possibly notable offshoot of a conglomerate. A horrible bunch of promotional fluff about a band tat barely exist, which is why I don't think they are notable. TheLongTone ( talk) 15:01, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Comment What is the "notable label" that are signed to? Without a reference how can such a claim be verified? All I can find is they've posted stuff on spotify and other self-download sites. I'm abstaining from voting because researching this AfD will require--I suspect--reading French (which I can't do). However I am immediately suspicious that any musical act that was formed little over than a year ago and whose first release, as of this writing, is three weeks old, can be considered encylopedic worthy. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 18:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    I don't think you need to be able to read French, ShelbyMarion, there are mentions in reliable sources in English: [62], [63]. However, this all reeks of WP:TOOSOON and WP:PROMO, with lots of peacock language, such as a total misuse of the word "breakthrough". Richard3120 ( talk) 20:50, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    fails WP:NPOL John from Idegon ( talk) 07:15, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    San Marcos has made national headlines numerous times this year and is one of two small cities in Texas whose mayor has signed the climate mayors. Now more than ever our politicians need to be accessible. I believe through edits this page can pass the guidelines through non promotion and notability. -kmo26 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmo26 ( talkcontribs) 07:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    http://climatemayors.org Climate Mayors are the only leadership in our country who have collectively vowed to stand with the world and combat up against climate change. Happy Holidays to you, too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmo26 ( talkcontribs) 11:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    fails WP:NPOL John from Idegon ( talk) 07:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was merge to Bundi State. Spartaz Humbug! 05:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Delete: It relies entirely on only one source, which is a website and websites are not reliable sources in historical articles. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 07:09, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    Yes, you can check it too. It just lists a list of rulers of Bundi, without ever citing a historical book or any scholarly work. You can find the source on the article's page. Besides, websites can provide as secondary sources for an article, but when it relies entirely on one source, a website, then it can be deleted. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 10:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    • Comment A relatively minor ruler in 16th century India is going to be hard to source. That he is mentioned at all speaks volumes. We need to examine the website in particular. IT may or may not be written by someone knowledgeable. It feels like it was taken from an old printed source. If so, that would suffice for me. We need to search for more sources. It might wind up that we need to merge this into a List of rulers of Bundi. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 13:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep He was the rules of an indepent state. As long as his existence is verifiable we should keep the article. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    The article is indeed notable, but it relies on only one, unreliable source and we cannot just assume that it is from an old printed source, either delete or redirect to History of Bundi. See WP:HSC for more information on citing historical articles. After conducting research on Rao Surtan, I found some websites in which he is mentioned( http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsFarEast/IndiaRajputanaBundi.htm) but none of them ever give a source to where did they get this information. Most of the sites where he is mentioned are mirror sites of Wikipedia. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 06:47, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    That being the case, the thing to do is to add a "refimprove"" tag and contact Wikiproject India to see if they can help with sourcing. Perhaps speedy keep as nominator says subject is notable. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 04:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    If you check the article, you will see that it has had a refimprove tag since March 2014, but no references have been added. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 14:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    After a detailed analysis of the website( http://members.iinet.net.au/~royalty/ips/b/bundi.html), I found it does list some books as sources, but they do not cite Rao Surtan. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 15:24, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    So, what's the final desicion? I've seen that the discussion has been inactive for 2 days. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 14:15, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply

    @ Hagoromo's Susanoo: Yeah, about that. Deletion discussions run at least seven days. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 14:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:50, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Fails WP:PRODUCT. No significant coverage found. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 05:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Biography of a politician whose only claim of notability is as a non-winning candidate for office. As always, this is not a claim of notability that passes WP:NPOL -- a person has to win the election and thereby hold a notable office to get a Wikipedia article because of politics per se, and otherwise he has to have preexisting notability for some other reason. But the only other potential notability claim here is that he was the chairman of the horticultural committee for a smalltown Rotary Club, which is in no sense whatsoever a reason why somebody would qualify for an encyclopedia article either -- and the only sources here are a census transcript on a genealogy site, and a glancing namecheck of his existence as chairman of the horticultural committee in a 75th anniversary overview of the entire Rotary chapter. None of this, neither the substance nor the sourcing, offers an actual reason why he would warrant an encyclopedia article. Bearcat ( talk) 05:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was redirect to The Voice (U.S. season 10). Killiondude ( talk) 05:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Poorly sourced article about a musician, whose only substantive claim of notability is having been a non-winning contestant on a reality show. As always, this is not a claim of notability in and of itself -- a non-winning contestant can still get a Wikipedia article by actually passing WP:NMUSIC, but is not handed an automatic inclusion freebie just for being on a reality show per se. But there's no claim to passing NMUSIC here, and no strong reliable source coverage to carry it: the referencing is entirely to primary sources, social media, podcasts and unreliable blogs, except for a single reliable source which contains no information about the subject at all, but rather is here to support the tangential fact that Nashville is called the country music capital of the world -- which is entirely irrelevant to Wakefield's notability. As always, no prejudice against recreation if and when his notability claim and sourceability actually clear the bar, but nothing here is enough as of right now -- we are not a promotional platform for aspiring future stars, but an encyclopedia about those who've already made it. Bearcat ( talk) 04:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was Delete and potentially merge some of the material. Will move it to the creators user page. Let me know if you wish the preexisting text. Have added a redirect. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply


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    Fails notability criterion. This organization has not received significant coverage from independent secondary sources. The few sources that speak on this organization are local, with one regional example. Additionally this entire article seems to be written and maintained by a member of this organizations board of directors that has cited their own documents. Criticality Incident ( talk) 04:25, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply


    KEEP - I am the author of this article. There are five independent sources for six of the ten references for this article. Those sources include the major radio and print outlets in the region in which Camp Rising Sun operates (two newspapers and one radio station), and the independent Charity Navigator which reflects the organization's valid 501c3 status. Most importantly the New York Times, a globally recognized news source, covered the situation in depth and fairly, and recognized the existence and role of SaveCRS. Documents from Camp Rising Sun's own website have been included to provide a complete and balanced portrayal of the facts and history.

    This wiki article has far more information and independent sourcing than many nonprofit wiki pages.

    Lastly the Wiki editor who suggested deletion is an alumnus of Camp Rising Sun who has edited no wiki pages except for Camp Rising Sun /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Criticality_Incident and the suggestion for deletion is politically motivated. Rsarlls ( talk) 04:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete (possibly with selective merge into Camp Rising Sun (New York)) - There isn't evidence of encyclopedic notability for this organization, other than material that relates to the camp and thus can be covered on the camp page. I make no opinion on whether the camp page is notable (since it's not up for AfD) but if this camp-related non-profit has any notability at all, it's in relation to the camp and can be covered on the camp's page. Shelbystripes ( talk) 05:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Redirect and merge to Camp Rising Sun (New York). The New York Times article discusses this group only in the context of longer coverage of the camp, its history, its alumni and its financial crisis. Charity Navigator listings do not confer notability. The motivations of the nominator are not relevant if their reasoning is otherwise sound. This article fails WP:Notability (organizations and companies). Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete (Perhaps merge some of the article with the section on financial difficulties in Camp Rising Sun (New York).) The newspapers are local, not regional, and I agree with Cullen328 that the NYT coverage is in the context of their coverage of the camp itself. Yes, I came out of lurking to work on the camp rising sun page, but almost exclusively to delete sections without npov (there were times when the article looked like it came straight out of a brochure) and to delete attacks on the board members. The fact that other articles on non-profits have even less attention from independent secondary sources is a sign that those articles should also be put up for deletion, not a sign that we should add to the pile. Criticality Incident ( talk) 23:52, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    KEEP - SaveCRS is a legitimate spin out from the CRS LAJF community and should enjoy notability no different than that of the Protestants or splintered off political groups. Attempting to silence hundreds of dissenting voices has not, and will never work to resolves any differences. Here is an example of a group that was born out of similar circumstances, albeit on a larger scale: /info/en/?search=National_Woman_Suffrage_Association. An even more recent and relevant example of groups splintering off as a result of an organization's financial missteps can be found on this page /info/en/?search=Cooper_Union_financial_crisis_and_tuition_protests#Free_Cooper_Union, which is separate from the main Cooper Union page /info/en/?search=Cooper_Union. Are we going to start deleting and/or merging pages of every organization in history that has branched, spun, or otherwise splintered off from an established or larger group? TigerJackson ( talk) 14:40, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Does not satisfy biographical notability or general notability. Most of the references are not independent. Google search turns up nothing that has been independently written about him, but the usual vanity hits of what he and GreenRope have written. (Google search also finds another Lars Helgeson, but they are clearly different people.) Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    • Delete the section on his career is too fully of buzz words and promotionalism. Even if we could find a way to fix this flaw, there is just no sign that he is notable. Wikipedia is not Linkedin, and that is exactly what this article reads like. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Spam article changed to a redirect then reverted from redirect multiple times by COI editor (see tag). No evidence in reliable sources this is a notable company or notable person fails WP:N and WP:CORP. The Wikipedia article claims the company name and person's name are interchageable but no sources presented support this claim WP:OR. The references should be removed as spam, but then there would be no references. Steve Quinn ( talk) 03:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NACTOR John from Idegon ( talk) 02:35, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was no consensus. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

    I made a bad call here. Re-closing as delete. There was essentially only one user vying for a keep while three others argued for deletion. It is irregular at best to change the decision after this amount of time has passed. I apologize. Killiondude ( talk) 22:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Does not seem to meet notability criteria Kevin McE ( talk) 22:52, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The sources are better, but he still does not meet the criteria on WP:NCYCLING. — Formal Dude( talk) 21:53, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    You seem to be arguing that because he does not meet WP:NCYCLING (which strictly speaking and as far as I've been able to determine, is true, albeit by a margin of literally seconds), he is automatically ineligible for inclusion. That's not how WP:NCYCLING or other subject-specific inclusion criteria work. If the article does meet the criteria set forth below, then it is likely that sufficient sources exist to satisfy  the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article -- in other words, if he had won the 2002 national ITT, then I could convincingly argue that sources were likely to exist without necessarily producing them. However, failing to meet the criteria in this guideline means that notability will need to be established in other ways. This is what the sources in the article achieve, showing that a) he received significant coverage for his cycling achievements in both sport-specific and general media even prior to his death, b) his death was covered not merely as a routine traffic fatality but as the death of a notable athlete, and c) the available web sources indicate that there's likely additional coverage available in print archives. In short, it doesn't matter if he doesn't meet WP:NCYCLING because the sources show that he meets WP:GNG. Υπογράφω ( talk) 02:04, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    I really don't think that this does meet GNG. Local newspaper items are not generally considered sufficient, the reports on his death are featured as a case of driver asleep at the wheel rather than victim-centered, and if even the very small circulation national special interest publication only gives 3 lines to the national record, we are talking very niche. The lack of any real biographical info suggests that the press may have considered his results worth reporting, but not himself highly noteworthy. But Wikipedia is not a repository of specialist event results in national level events in minority sports. Kevin McE ( talk) 11:42, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    I don't think it proves your points at all, the sources do not prove he was covered for his cycling achievements by general media. They are not from independent websites. The ones from independent websites all only cover his death. — Formal Dude( talk) 22:45, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Killiondude ( talk) 05:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Fails WP:GNG, WP:ORGDEPTH, and WP:MUSICBIO. Except for this and this (which reads like a press release), there is almost nothing published about Raider Klan--except for trivial Soundcloud stuff--to establish notability. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:58, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    WP:CFORK of two barely-related articles ( Terrorism in the United States and List of assassinations#United_States). No need for a combined list. ansh 666 01:53, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was no consensus. This could possibly have been adjudged a "keep", but the bottom line is that there is not sufficient consensus to delete this article. Discussion as to an appropriate move or merge can continue on the article's talk page. A Train talk 07:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    The article seems to have no encyclopdeic value, in addition to maybe being a violation of WP:NPOV. Jdavi333 ( talk) 01:23, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete and do not merge into Political appointments by Donald Trump as some others might suggest. No other lists exists for ex-presidents. Corky  Buzz by the Hornet's Nest 02:53, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep -- This article was nominated for deletion based on an assertion of WP:NPOV issues. Those issues will be resolved with references. The article will eventually be MOVEd to Trump nominees who withdrew. I suspect we will discover in retrospect that this administration suffered a higher attrition rate of appointees and nominees than any other administration. citation needed original research? (See, I saved you the work). Creation of the article is BOLD. Secondary sources exist. CNN quoted this: "relative to the number of confirmed people, Trump's percentage of failed nominations is very high," with numbers that followed. More references will follow. In the mean time, we should not lose this article. Rhadow ( talk) 11:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Comment I agree with Rhadow. Other administrations don't need a list because they don't have controversial descisions to put controversial people in government positions. AFAICR no other administration has had the problems dishing out the spoils that the current one has. L3X1 (distænt write) 15:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I, on the other hand, disagree with both @L3X1 and @Rhadow. I find their proposals partisan and selective, and based on their own personal points of view, which their own laughably self-righteous and POV rationales confirm:

      "I suspect we will discover in retrospect that this administration suffered a higher attrition rate of appointees and nominees than any other administration. citation needed original research? (See, I saved you the work). Creation of the article is BOLD.")

      and

      "Other administrations don't need a list because they don't have controversial descisions to put controversial people in government positions."

      Ummm, can anyone say CRYSTAL and OR?? If you create such an article list for Trump, then one should be created for every POTUS (FDR, Reagan, Nixon, and Clinton would appear particularly apropos, but ALL POTUSES should be covered in the interests of fairness and consistency). Quis separabit? 22:21, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Quick response is that OR is for article content not whether or not to have an article. L3X1 (distænt write) 23:18, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Upon further (though relatively shallow) digging, most of the other POTUS's seem to only have these issues regarding Supreme Court appointees, not for the Cabinet and other positions. I'm sorry if I appear self-righteous, but I think calling OSE to be just as big a non-solution: This can't exist till everything else that probably should exist exists. As for NPOV, the facts are that Trump nominated people for a position, and they withdrew. L3X1 (distænt write) 23:58, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    "most of the other POTUS's seem to only have these issues regarding Supreme Court appointees, not for the Cabinet and other positions." -- that does not sound either reliably sourced or genuinely investigative in nature. What's more, such a list is pointless, partisan, and divisive. Quis separabit? 01:40, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Strong keep - As pointed out above by Rhadow, the unusually high number of withdrawn nominations is based on observations in secondary sources and is not OR. The fact that other pages don't exist is not a good reason to delete this page. Not every presidency is the same or has the same issues. It's not unprofessional or political to simply create pages for notable events supported by secondary sources. Shelbystripes ( talk) 06:30, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Comment -- This discussion has turned personal and partisan. There are plenty of other places to pursue it on the web, but not on an article talk page. Arguments based on WP:OR, WP:NPOV, or even WP:CRYSTAL are fine. Please leave unprofessional, self-righteous, pointless, partisan, and divisive out of the conversation. If you wish to to add to the article that the current administration has been extraordinarily successful at placing appeals court nominees, that's fine. That's a fact. Rhadow ( talk) 12:07, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was keep. Killiondude ( talk) 05:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    No evidence of notability, and all but one source is from the organisation's own website. — Formal Dude( talk) 01:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Keep I don't agree all sources are from the organization's site, where we have sources from respectable newspapers like Taipei Times and Taiwan Today. In addition to source from Historical Dictionary of Taiwan Cinema which is invaluable academic reference material. This is poor nomination as you've not done WP:BEFORE properly with clear contradiction of your statement and the actual content of the article. Ammarpad ( talk) 10:25, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    @ Ammarpad: All of the current sources were added after I had nominated for deletion. See here. — Formal Dude( talk) 23:48, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    That's why WP:BEFORE is recommend. If you had properly followed the process you are the one who would've found the sources and add. Nominating for AfD usually is the last resort after search fails to bring up any meaninful source or no evidence that sources can be found. – Ammarpad ( talk) 00:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Non-notable corporate entity. Viennese Waltz 15:06, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete - this is basically a corporate training department not a "university". There's nothing to merge, as the article does not cite any sources and nor does it contain any meaningful encyclopedic prose. The entire article is pretty much this:
    • ...founded in 2001 through the merger of all the training and education departments of the group. Eni Corporate University mainly shares the goals of the typical Corporate university, and in addition it is responsible for recruitment.
    This could be said of any corporate training department. A redirect is pointless; since typing in Eni would bring the reader to the page of the company. K.e.coffman ( talk) 01:34, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete unreferenced and no secondary references found. I don't believe it attempts to issue any academic credentials, merely being an internal training division with a fancy name. [75] suggests one of its divisions might accept students and offer a degree, but without at least one secondary reference to that effect this can't be kept. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 19:11, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. There is a consensus among registered editors that the subject's many quotes to do not constitute in-depth coverage of the subject. A Train talk 07:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Non-notable individual lacking non-trivial, in-depth support. reddogsix ( talk) 20:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    • Keep: Cameron Howe is a Melbourne-based journalist who regularly works with larger media outlets including, Fairfax and News Limited newspapers, in addition to writing for a number of independent publications. This site should not be deleted for the above reasons.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.26.130 ( talk) 121.214.26.130 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
    • Save- the above comments regarding the deletion of this webpage fail to support their claims with any meaningful information, and other Wikipedia users have not been given the opportunity to add further information to this webpage. The comments regarding the deletion of this webpage can only be described as cyber bulling — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.26.130 ( talk) 07:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Comment - There is no cyberbulling here and your comment only shows your lack of understanding of Wikipedia guidelines. Please see WP:N for information about article inclusion requirements, also please read WP:AGF before responding to anyone's comments. reddogsix ( talk) 15:49, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Comment-Lets be accurate, the full quote is, "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.". The coverage fails to support notability. reddogsix ( talk) 03:18, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Keep The coverage is of state significance on a host of political issues that could determine the result of the next state election in 2018, not to mention that the Mordialloc Chronicle which he writes for has received a capital injection. The Chronicle Newspaper Group is challenging News Corp's Leader newspaper group with the intention of having 55 newspaper by the end of 2018. He currently writes for 3 newspapers and again regularly commentates on issues of state political significance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.108.231 ( talk) 06:05, 28 December 2017 (UTC) 1.144.108.231 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply

    Just to add. He is a media source quoted in national newspapers owned by Fairfax Media - The Age, Bendigo Advertiser, etc and News Corp - The Herald Sun, Leader, The Daily Telegraph etc. Also referred to in a press release by a notable political in state government and had his views read out in Parliament — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.108.231 ( talk) 06:08, 28 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    • Comment - Quotes are neither in-depth nor non-trivial coverage. reddogsix ( talk)}
    How about just common sense? reddogsix ( talk) 06:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    • Comment It should be noted that all keep novotes, except for the one made by Subuey, have been made by IP accounts with no other prior contributions to the project (except one with 3 edits to another article). -- Crystallizedcarbon ( talk) 17:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete there's no claim that he meets any SNG (including WP:NAUTHOR) or is particularly important in any way. The references (other than his personal website) are him acting as a spokesperson in local news, and are very much reference-bombing (SIX references for "is a frequent media commentator", all of which are simply places he has been quoted in news stories, and not about him or his media-commentating actions). power~enwiki ( π, ν) 11:51, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Was redirected to Jumanji the movie by another user. I figured it was worth debating instead. Coin945 ( talk) 00:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    • Delete no coverage in reliable sources. Nothing indicates this game achieved any kind of notoriety. I tried several different searches, under varying search terms, and used the "newspapers" search. The article has been on Wikipedia since 2012. So, there has been plenty of time to gather reliable sources and there aren't any in the "references" section. Fails WP:N and WP:NWEB - this topic does not merit a standalone article. --- Steve Quinn ( talk) 02:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    Delete I couldn't find any references for this. Not sure it meets GNG. Lee Vilenski( talk) 12:37, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 00:19, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    subject is not notable Johnathlon ( talk) 00:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete One insubstantial mention in The Toronto Star is all I find. [76]
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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Creator bypassed AfC nomination process after numerous failed attempts to prove notability. This article is also to circumvent the salting of Blake Alma, a 2013 attempt at creation. Wylie pedia 23:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was merged to OkCupid, until such time as substantial content develops. Although a reasonable number of sources exist to show that the word exists and has a consistent definition, no showing has been made that the article can be increased beyond the current dicdef. It has been pointed out that this word has been used in contexts outside of OkCupid, but it remains clear that the primary association of the word is with OkCupid, and other uses can be discussed in the context of its origination with that website. bd2412 T 02:50, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Term is WP:NEO and is mainly used in reference to dating websites like OkCupid, as all of the sources in the article show. Although a few scholars have mentioned the term to document that it exists, it is not a term that academics use. It is not a sexual orientation. The current entry is also a WP:Dictionary entry. This topic can be easily covered in the Online dating service article. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 23:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    Indy beetle, what is there to state about the term beside the fact that it is a category used on some dating websites? WP:Stubs are not ideal. Per WP:Neo, neither are articles on neologisms. And per WP:No page, not every article needs its own Wikipedia page. This one certainly does not. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 00:26, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Merging also exists, which is why I noted that this topic can be easily covered in the Online dating service article. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 00:30, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Delete. The article is too esoteric and lacks widespread and in-depth coverage. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a passing fad in terms of it being a term. It is a case of Wikipedia:Too soon at the very least. Knox490 ( talk) 06:29, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Weak Delete and Soft-Redirect to Wiktionary. Clearly a neologism (from 5-ish years ago), but used well beyond OKCupid, so a redirect there would be inappropriate. (the "Further reading" shows examples, though that section has obvious issues). A soft-redirect to Wiktionary seems to be the best option here, as I see no content other than a WP:DICTDEF here. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 16:46, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      Comment I've just seen [3] (via Hacker News) about this. I have no prejudice against re-creation with better sources in the future. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete - DictDef. Or Non Notable Neologism. Pick one. Carrite ( talk) 03:20, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Passes WP:GNG - all WP:NEO says is that there must be secondary sources on it - which do exist. It does not put a especially higher standard for neologisms, just that merely being used is not enough. I think there's also enough on cultural perception etc for WP:WORDISSUBJECT. Stuff like With increased visibility has come a backlash: Some say declaring a sexual preference based on intelligence is pretentious, elitist or insulting to people with disabilities. etc. As powerenwiki pointed out, there's a journal artice on it published in Intelligence (journal) [4] that uses the term. Could add some information from that. Won't be a huge article but that shouldn't matter. I think there's enough for a criticism section from articles, history section on its first use and emergence as a term, and psychology section using that study. There's easily enough coverage unrelated to okcupid, not sure where that's from. Not sure if I'll have the time now to expand on it - I'd request userfication if it's deleted and I'll see about expanding it if i can. Like this daily dot article says - Sapiosexual: It’s the latest sexual identity causing a lot of controversies. You may have heard of it from OkCupid, which has included it as a sexual orientation on its dating platform, or from the Daily Beast’s Samantha Allen, who criticized the term’s very existence. Or maybe you stumbled across the New York Times‘ sapiosexual exposé from June 2017, exploring what it means to be more attracted to someone’s brain over their looks. Not just okcupid. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 08:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep. The topic clearly is "worthy of notice" given the discussion in the New York Times, etc—this means it passes our general notability guidelines for inclusion in Wikipedia. Currently the article is a stub and dictionary definition; however, the article can and should be expanded rather than deleted. Malinaccier ( talk) 00:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Note: See Talk:Sapiosexuality for Czar's take on the concept's notability and the article's possibility for expansion. Malinaccier ( talk) 00:46, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete--a few recent write-ups (well, old ones, and no new ones--so it hasn't really caught on) do not make for a subject that meets the GNG; we're falling victim to a recentist addiction to fairly trivial mentions. If this weren't trivial, we'd have more and more serious hits in books etc. than this footnote--which isn't better than our article (and makes me question Wiley). I have, however, ordered a copy of this book--mreow. Drmies ( talk) 00:51, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep - despite the Delete and Salt SNOW vote on the last (3rd) AfD, the term appears to now be a notable thing. This just popped up today in the Daily Mail. [ [5]] From the article: The term 'sapiosexual' has recently received widespread media attention and speculation as it grows in popularity. And this yesterday: [ [6]] TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Does not appear notable with significant coverage in independent sources either as an actor ( WP:ACTOR) or an artist ( WP:NARTIST) Boneymau ( talk) 23:34, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Can't see the claim to notability here, and no significant coverage in independent sources. She played minor roles in a number of stage works and performed with live shows for Disney. I can't find independent corroboration of playing the role Marianne in Shout!, she certainly didn't originate the role. She does not appear to be credited on the Sardi single. Boneymau ( talk) 21:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was kept. bd2412 T 03:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    This subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:FILMMAKER. Source searches are only providing passing mentions. North America 1000 21:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    Indian editors can help to find sources but even the sources that I have posted are in my opinion enough. I was considering erring on the side of caution as this is a biography of a living person and he may meet TOOSOON but there are probably sources out there that are hard to access and often need custom searches or perhaps there is more stuff in print only (unlikely in my opinion). I'm unsure why all the sources I have found are post-September; maybe it's a problem with my search. I don't think the sources are quite passing mention in response to NA1000's statement.
    In conclusion, yes he fails WP:DIRECTOR but he does pass the general notability guideline and thus whether he passes WP:CREATIVE or not is moot. Also, he may pass WP:JOURNALIST (same as CREATIVE, DIRECTOR, and FILMMAKER) under criterion 4c: The person's work (or works) has [sic] won significant critical attention due to his numerous awards for journalism (let's hope they're not made up). J 947 ( c · m) 22:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I think it should be G Prajesh Sen from my searches, and it definitely confused me but I think they are the same. Also, his role as a journalist seems to be the main source of coverage. J 947 ( contribs · mail) 22:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was Merge to Outer Hebrides#Transport which I've already done [7] (non-admin closure)Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:25, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Non notable bus company, Fails GNG – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 20:21, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Recreation of a previously deleted article. Still no reliable, third-party sources to establish notability, largely promotional and supported only by self-published fringe sources. Famous dog (c) 19:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete looks like a classic promotional article. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete without prejudice to re-creation, preferably as a redirect  The article itself uses future tense, and after reading [8], suggests that the article's future tense is advancing a split from the founding ideas of NLP.  For reference, one of the two primary sources is a biography with extensive detail, [9], and the second is written by the topic.
      As for the topic itself, reading the article on NLP shows analysis that reaches into concepts of religion, just as the second primary source lists "Spiritual" as an additional layer of the "NeuroLogical levels".  The NLP article's mention of New Age quasi-religion fits in with the topic's association with University of California at Santa Cruz.  The NLP article has 11 cites to the topic at hand.  I see that the topic at hand has been translated into Russian, German, French, and Italian.  I find in Google searches that the topic has a patent regarding biofeedback, and the primary-source biography couples his work with the biofeedback game "Wild Divine", a topic with Ghits in Google Scholar.  Certainly Wikipedia notable as per the lede and nutshell; although if we are having trouble getting a standalone article on the topic, space could be created at NLP to identify him in a section called HistoryUnscintillating ( talk) 22:07, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete this is a CV with a few promotional sentences tacked on. No claim of meeting WP:NAUTHOR. No independent references, and I was unable to find any. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 17:02, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    No opinion on whether a redirect to Neuro-linguistic programming is appropriate. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 17:03, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was redirect to Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam. Redirection is the appropriate action per WP:ATD-R and the absence of BLP concerns. A Train talk 18:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Clearly does not meet WP:GNG, and certainly doesn't pass WP:NSOLDIER. Onel5969 TT me 19:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 20:53, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Fails notability criteria, all the press is about his death, so WP:BIO1E applies. Onel5969 TT me 19:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    While an interesting footnote to the cold war, simply not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 19:13, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. A Train talk 19:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Minor tv personality who doesn't meet WP:GNG, and certainly doesn't meet either WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:NSOLDIER, or WP:NPOL. Onel5969 TT me 19:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete non-notable mayor and TV anchorman. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 23:37, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Comment  The Illinois legislature is filled with notable people who gave the topic attention, but I'm having trouble finding sources on Google.  [ This page provides something he did as mayor.  WGN is a 50,000 watt radio station, which at night can be heard over most of the populated US and I assume Canada.  WGN-TV went on the air in 1948, so was one of the earliest broadcasters.  His father was associated with the Tribune newspaper.  It seems likely that someone with access to Chicago newspaper archives would have a chance of finding more on this topic.  Unscintillating ( talk) 04:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete unless the article sees significant improvement. Neither being a smalltown mayor nor being a single-market local TV or radio personality is an automatic notability pass that entitles a person to keep an article that's this weakly sourced. And saying that improved sourcing might be possible is not enough in and of itself to get an article kept, either — somebody needs to show the evidence that enough sourcing to get him over GNG does exist, preferably by actually improving the article but at least by showing some hard results from an actual search of Chicago newspaper archives in this discussion, and it is not enough to just theorize that maybe better sources might exist. Bearcat ( talk) 04:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was keep. WP:NSPORT is met, no consensus about WP:SOLDIER. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki ( π, ν) 17:19, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Uncited. Does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NSOLDIER. Onel5969 TT me 19:02, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Per source searches and citation checks, this subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:NACADEMIC. North America 1000 18:18, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was keep. Katie talk 20:21, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    Unnecessary spin-out articles of List of National Weather Service Weather Forecast Offices. Provides little additional information. The offices on their own fails WP:ORG, an office does not inherit notability from the National Weather Service. Also sourcing in these articles are either limited or non-existent. Some articles likely contain WP:OR. Rusf10 ( talk) 17:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The Chicago, IL article is little more than a list of radio stations. The Lincoln, IL is one of the better written articles, but I still believe it fails WP:ORG.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 19:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Articles seem to be well sourced, though to non-independent (government) sources. Also, as with most mass-noms, there are issues with some likely having better sources out there than others and there are not links to previous AfDs. Hobit ( talk) 20:43, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep By far a WP:SOFIXIT proposition rather than full deletion for any of these (especially major city offices and Norman, Oklahoma, which the nom seems to have failed to do the most basic of WP:BEFORE and most know as the major research center/forecast authority for tornadoes in the United States; same with Miami and the National Hurricane Center). Nate ( chatter) 22:15, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    @ Mrschimpf:I think you may have confused the local NWS office in Norman, OK with the Storm Prediction Center (also located in Norman, OK), I believe they are two separate offices.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 23:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Whatever their connection is, you have 20+ sources in the Norman NWS article and they definitely don't have a stone wall between them. Nate ( chatter) 23:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    The Norman article is not quite as good as it appears on the surface. It starts off with a mostly unsourced history section, then it goes into a discussion about a notable weather event which already has its own article, next comes a description of its website (this section should just be deleted regardless), and then a list of radio stations. That's it, almost all of the sources are the NWS website.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 23:28, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Keep Would be throwing away an enormous amount of valuable and perfectly notable work. Unnecessary spin-out really. What is the purpose of any encyclopedia if not for spin out articles. scope_creep ( talk) 18:23, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Apart from most of the articles have many valid sources this AfD bundling is in the territory of WP:TRAINWRECK which hinders meaningful assessment of individual article and further worsen the AfD process. I will support examining each on its merit or at most 3 in AfD. Saying they contain OR is hasty generalization (which is caused by the bundling) and did not match what I see in many of the articles – Ammarpad ( talk) 01:36, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Chronic deletionism at its worst from one of our most strident deletionists. Sadly, Rusf10 has made admonished after having made previous bulk nominations and has too often failed to make the most basic analysis required by WP:BEFORE. Above and beyond failing to look for sources for each of the articles bundled into this nomination, it's unclear if there was even an effort to read articles such as National Weather Service Lincoln, Illinois, National Weather Service Miami, Florida and National Weather Service Norman, Oklahoma, which are indisputably notable. An out-and-out ban on AfD for Rusf10 should be seriously considered to end the further abuse of process. Alansohn ( talk) 02:18, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Mr. Sohn (I know you don't like me calling you by your first name), do you have an actual policy reason to keep these? Because that is an outright personal attack and nothing else.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 02:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Read WP:OUTING and start using my full username; this is not the first time that you have violated WP:HARASS and this is an explicit final warning. The policy argument is that this bulk nomination is an abuse of process from an editor who has been warned previously about bulk nominations. Alansohn ( talk) 03:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Hey you picked your username, not me.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 03:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Sherlock, the user name is eight characters and makes no indication of how it is to be parsed; that's based solely on you;re attempts to disclose information about me in violation of WP:OUTING. Read WP:HARASS and follow it; else dig your own grave. As you seem to be following me around, you'll see that I have participated in AfDs above and beyond those included in your initial threats aimed at me, both now and for the past dozen years. When a bulk AfD popped up, I was astounded to see that an editor like you who had already been warned against making abusive bulk deletions was at it again. I thus participated. Alansohn ( talk) 03:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    So you just admitted you decided to participate after you saw I nominated it. Youre clearing following me around (not the other way around), but that's okay.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 03:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Bulshit, dude. I said I saw a bulk nomination on AfD and was surprised to see your name on it after I had edited the nom. Remember Sherlock that you're the one who promised to delete articles because you believed they were connected to me (see this threat, as a reminder). Take a look at how participation is tracking here and tell me where consensus is? Are you going to withdraw the nomination or will you just keep battling away in the true spirit of disruptive deletionism? Alansohn ( talk) 04:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep. Clearly a WP:SOFIXIT. Given the size of the city and the various other similar articles for similar sized cities, I don't see why the article was ever nominated for deletion. The National Wealther Service does important work. Deletionism at its worst is at play here. Knox490 ( talk)
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    The result was delete. After relisting, consensus has developed that the article fails WP:OR and doesn't have proper attribution for copying within Wikipedia. ansh 666 19:47, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    The phrase "frontier strip" appears to have been invented solely for this Wikipedia namespace. I can not find any historical or scholarly examples of the phrase "frontier strip" being used in relation to the United States, and as far as I can tell the phrase "frontier strip" does not appear in any of the article's listed references . The small number of Google search hits (regular search, books and scholar) for "frontier strip" appear to be traceable back to this article, with the exception of some references that are clearly about other countries.

    In sum, this page's definition of a "frontier strip" is not a recognized grouping of U.S. states. In addition, the general topic is already thoroughly reviewed by American frontier and other state and regional pages. Thomas H. White ( talk) 15:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    I agree--it should be deleted. I cannot find any usage. Rjensen ( talk) 15:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Rename to something, I'm not sure what, or Merge into American Frontier. Leave no redirect from "Frontier Strip". Looking at newspapers.com, frontier strip seems to be a term occasionally used to describe regions near frontlines of battles, but I agree it doesn't work here. Also, the "Last American Frontier", which is used to in this article, generally refers to Alaska and not this region. Smmurphy( Talk) 16:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete Rename / Merge - this is a difficult one - as this article dates back to 2005 making Wikipedia->source contamination quite an issue. I have found some sources referring to these as "Frontier Strip". Post 2005: [13] [14] [15] [16]. But I am unable to find older sources using this name for Texas to Dakota. Icewhiz ( talk) 17:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC) Modified to delete as it seems most the contents are copy pssted from other wiki articles. Icewhiz ( talk) 20:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Rename- Unfortunately this article has been around for a long time and people have put a lot of work into it. However, it seems to be a made-up name for geographic region. I think the easier thing to do would be to move the page to American Great Plains. Alternately candidates for merges would be American Frontier (as above) or Great Plains (although this article includes Canada too, which is why I prefer the rename).-- Rusf10 ( talk) 23:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    How about renaming to History of the Great Plains or History of the American Great Plains (I think the former is better right now, since American Great Plains redirects to Great Plains). This would be a minor repurposing, with frontier strip replaced with great plains in the text and the image perhaps replaced with File:Map of the Great Plains.png. The description section doesn't really have anything not in Great Plains, and this page would, I think, be better kept separate but referred to in the history section of that article. Smmurphy( Talk)
    While most of the article deals with history, some things would not fit into an article titled "History of". That's why I'd prefer renaming to "American Great Plains" with a hatnote at the top going to the existing "Great Plains" article.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 15:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    I agree, but American Great Plains already exists (is a redirect to Great Plains). As I meant to say, the non-history stuff from this article could be merged into that article, except it is already there, so it can just be trimmed in this article. Smmurphy( Talk) 16:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Merge each section into the history section of a relevant state or region article such as American West or Great Plains. See Below The edit history of this article is eye-opening: The original is nothing more than a list of states accompanied by an unsourced and speculative explanation. A later revision attempts to attribute it to the US Census, but this is also fails to support the grouping of the states. Everything else seems to be a mishmash of events that occurred within or around this group of states, but there is still nothing that ties it together as a cohesive region. – dlthewave 21:05, 20 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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    Don't worry, most of your contributions will be retained in the articles from which they were copied. – dlthewave 16:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Not really, but destroy the history; Cheers -- J. D. Redding 20:20, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was speedy keep. I'm withdrawing this; I ma nominate in a year or two when opinion about promotionalism becomes more rational DGG ( talk ) 23:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    essentially promotional , so it violates NOT ADVERTISING, one of our fundamental policies. I do not know whether or not it's really notable, but it doesn't matter. notability is secondary to basic policy WP:NOT. The previous discussion argued on the grounds of notability, but I do not see why. DGG ( talk ) 16:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was speedy keep. I'm withdrawing this; I see the reaction to the sockpuppettry has caused an unfortunate-- but I hope temporary -- change in our views on promotionalism. I'll probably renominate once we return to rationality. DGG ( talk ) 00:01, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    very small chain, with only the expected local coverage except for inclusion on lists . The previous discussion was closed because of sockpuppettry, but that shouldn't prevent an immediate renomination. DGG ( talk ) 16:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    • Keep - per my !vote on the previous nomination. Non-notable as a chain, but main location notable as a significant tourist attraction in Nashville. I've never been there, I don't like "hot chicken", but I recognized the topic from reading somewhere. In my estimation it is a topic likely to be looked up by readers looking for encyclopedic information. Meets GNG comfortably. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep. Plenty of substantial national and local coverage from established sources, and it is regularly noted as one of the main culinary attractions in Nashville. And in reading through the previous deletion discussion it was very heavily influenced by misleading arguments and analysis from sockpuppets.-- Bernie44 ( talk) 19:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep There's substantial coverage to establish notability as already shown above. And I believe any article that's not G11'ble, that's means it is promotional tone is fixable if there's any. And existence of more sources already shown both in the previous AfD and here. – Ammarpad ( talk) 19:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • keep its fine. i trimmed a bunch of padding about hot chicken but it meets GNG for sure. Jytdog ( talk) 20:42, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. I don't see the promotional tone here but this is a clear WP:NORG fail. No prejudice against recreation with better sources. A Train talk 20:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Nothing of significant kind to pass WP:NORG. Störm (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    So where is coverage to pass WP:NORG? Störm (talk) 12:24, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    A defunct amateur club. Does not pass either wp:gng or WP:NFOOTY. Onel5969 TT me 16:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Pure listcruft. I checked the first couple names in most of the sections and none are notable. Page is unsourced, and save for one bluelink is a dead end. I see nowhere to go with this. Primefac ( talk) 16:13, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    All references are in non- reliable sources. WP:BEFORE turns up credulous reports of amazing psychic powers but no actual evidence. A large portion of the current article has no cites and the sources of the claims are not verifiable. Fails the Biographies of Living Persons policy and even general notability is very doubtful. While it is undoubtedly possible for fraudulent psychics, etc. to become notable (e.g., Jeane Dixon), the coverage of this boy does not appear to rise to the necessary level as yet. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:00, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was merge to Preludes (Messiaen). There appears to be some content in this article that's not present at the redirect target but yes, power~enwiki is correct, this could have been handled at the article's talk page. A Train talk 20:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    There is already an article about the set of 8 preludes that contain this piece. This article adds nothing to it. Squandermania ( talk) 15:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 20:52, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Wayne Sisk was a junior NCO in E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) during World War II; his rank ( sergeant) and lack of high-level awards (highest Bronze Star Medal) make him non-notable under WP:SOLDIER; he was mentioned in Ambrose's Band of Brothers as being involved in the killing of a Nazi officer in Austria under orders of the company commander, Ronald Speirs. Post-war, he was ordained as a Baptist minister but, outside his local area in West Virginia, enjoyed little notability; his wife appeared in local news stories more often than Sisk himself. He was portrayed in nine of the ten episodes of the miniseries. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 14:09, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 16:24, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Businessman who does not seem to meet WP:GNG. Appears to be written by an editor with an undeclared conflict of interest. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 13:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 20:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    This article is sourced entirely to 2 primary sources, and the google hits aren't very promising. In addition, an editor claiming to be the subject insists that the information is largely incorrect; an assertion that is difficult to dismiss without quality sources to check. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    @ Rusf10: Don't feel bad. My first interaction with this article was when a person claiming to be the BLP in question asked for information to be changed. I had literally started to comment "RUN!! It's a zombie!!" before I noticed the spelling and checked the article. Luckily, I hadn't hit "Publish changes" yet. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:35, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    • Comment I've found some local news articles such as [27] and there are mentions in news articles outside of the region such as Washington Post [28] and The News-Gazette / Champaign-Urbana [29] The stuff the editor wrote saying things were incorrect were mainly concerning his degrees at educational institutions. He still was a conductor for Atlanta, Emory, and LaGrange [30] AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 02:34, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was procedural close. I didn’t even find evidence that this page ever existed. I have, however, flagged your user page per U1, if that’s what you want. ( non-admin closure) LaundryPizza03 ( talk) 13:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    This page is useless ChristiWilken ( talk) 12:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ben · Salvidrim!  15:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Of the hundreds of Bitcoin wallets available, this defunct wallet does not stand out. Notability not established. Ysangkok ( talk) 12:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

    • Keep has plenty of reliable sources coverage in the article such as CBS, USA Today, CNN, PC Magazine, NYT blog (blogs are allowed from NYT). I don't see any mention of bitcoin in the article. Atlantic306 ( talk) 13:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Sandstein 20:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Seems to be a non-notable lawyer who unsuccessfully represented a client in an action against a celebrity, and failed to win a nomination to the Senate. I don't believe he meets WP:GNG. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 12:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Delete. The rule of law is important and he does appear to be politically/civically engaged, but given the overabundance of lawyers now, he really has to separate himself from the pack. He fails to do this. I don't see adequate in-depth coverage from reliable sources. Knox490 ( talk) 03:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete defeated candidates for state legislature are not notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete Where I live I see his commercials (and just recently I hired a lawyer like Steinger to represent me after I was struck by a car while out for my morning walk) for his law firm all the time. That said, not notable lawyer and failed politician. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Comment An article on this person was previously deleted after an AFD. The discussion can be found here. I nominated this article for speedy deletion and suggest both articles be SALTED if this edition is deleted again. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:22, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was redirect to Condorito. (non-admin closure) Ben · Salvidrim!  14:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Completely WP:INUNIVERSE (except for the first sentence), unreferenced, some WP:OR, no indication of real-world notability. At the very least, could be redirected to Condorito along with the other two town names mentioned in the article; that’s why I didn’t PROD it. LaundryPizza03 ( talk) 12:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was speedily deleted under criteria A7 and G11. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:43, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    no indication of either CORP or GNG here. This is simply an advitorial John from Idegon ( talk) 10:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 12:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:NACTOR. Run-of-the-mill actor. Edwardx ( talk) 14:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    The result was delete. Sandstein 12:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Non-notable voice actor whose filmography consists of minor roles. No reliable third-party sources cited to support any claims. Does not pass WP:NACTOR or WP:NOTE. Disputed prod — Farix ( t |  c) 01:20, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    So based on this, he does not meet WP:ENT Chances of finding featured news articles about him are slim. AngusWOOF ( barksniff) 17:32, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Weak keep or draftify - Considering his lack of major roles, he arguably does not pass WP:ENT. He does however, been covered in at least two Japanese-language sources: this and this. Both are interviews, and consensus is mixed on whether or not interviews are enough to establish notability, but these do exist. Non-interview sources were harder to find, but some do exist, like this one. With the sourcing available and the fact that Japanese voice acting coverage can be limited to begin with, the coverage out there might just be enough to pass at the very least WP:GNG. If consensus is not to keep, I would suggest draftifying the article instead of complete deletion in case he gets more roles and/or gets more coverate in the future. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 02:13, 16 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Existing references are completely insufficient for a WP:BLP. The "wait-and-see" approach advocated by BabbaQ is not appropriate for a BLP. A Train talk 13:19, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    No evidence of any notability. He does appear to have written some songs performed by others, but there is no evidence that any reliable and independent sources have written about him. Appears to be competent jobbing song writer. Has been templated since September 2017 as needing sources. Searches only reveal the same sort of material - track listings etc. Fails WP:GNG   Velella   Velella Talk   00:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • There is a difference between wanting sources and non notability. A article could nedd more sources and still be notable like in this case. This article passes WP:GNG. AfD is not a clean-up service. BabbaQ ( talk) 19:59, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Sandstein 12:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    I do not believe this article meets the general notability guidelines. I have been keeping track of this subject for a while hoping to be able to create an article on it someday, but only one reliable source has ever covered it (that being Bloody Disgusting, twice: [34] [35]). Nearly all of the citations currently used in the article are primary sources linking to the webcomic itself, Tapastic, Tumblr, Youtube, etc. There is also this blog post, which is not a reliable source and this top list, which is not reliable or notable either. Seeing as Erma does not meet the general notability guidelines, this article should be deleted. It is unfortunate, seeing as how much work seems to have gone into it. ~ Mable ( chat) 09:59, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Yep. It's borderline, but both articles are pretty detailed. Technically qualifies as "multiple" and there is enough there to build an article around. But it isn't an obvious case. A !vote to delete is certainly justifiable. Hobit ( talk) 19:56, 24 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    @ Hobit: I think the stronger case is that multiple articles from the same publication does not qualify as multiple sources. This is suggested by the note for the 'sources' part of GNG, which states that "a series of publications by the same author or in the same periodical is normally counted as one source." The GNG also specifically states that "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." I feel like these parts of GNG were specifically directed at clarifying what I would assume to be the common sense interpretation of 'multiple sources': what is required is different sources, independent of each other. Cjhard ( talk) 12:46, 26 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Per Hobit.
    • Delete not enough coverage in reliable sources, fails WP:N. Also, probably WP:TOOSOON. Sources are supposed to be intellectually independent of the others. This means sources are supposed to be from various publishers. Not multiple sources from the same publisher. Create this article later, when more sources emerge. --- Steve Quinn ( talk) 07:44, 28 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    The result was no consensus. A Train talk 13:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Fails WP:CRYSTALBALL and GNG, can be recreated in future James ( talk/ contribs) 21:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Redirect - For now at least. It is far too soon to create these types of articles. When All-Star discussion for this game exists, it can be re-created. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 03:20, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep Per WP:CRYSTAL: "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." The host city, date, and venue has been announced, and there is no reason to think the event will not be notable, as all past annual NBA All-Star Games have been. At this point, WP:IAR, as there is nothing to be gained by creating a bureaucracy to delete only to inevitably recreate again.— Bagumba ( talk) 09:25, 26 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • It is inconsistent to advocate "redirect" and state that it fails WP:DEL8, so I struck that.  I am adding that it fails WP:DEL14 and WP:Notability (events)WP:DEL14 is for WP:NOT, and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER #2 states, "most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion. For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, [or] sports...is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia."  Perhaps WP:Notability (events) gets to the core issue when it states, "In evaluating an event, editors should evaluate various aspects of the event and the coverage: the impact, depth, duration, geographical scope, [and] diversity...of the coverage."  18:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC) [Note: DEL12 changed to DEl14.  Unscintillating ( talk) 01:24, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Keep It is typical to keep a planned major sporting event once the date and venue has been decided, or when the process of selection is advanced to the point that the process is noteworthy. This achieves that. Trackinfo ( talk) 07:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    Since everybody else was too lazy to do so, I added the current story about the event to the article, discussing the known knowns. Trackinfo ( talk) 02:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was no consensus. I'm sympathetic to the idea that the designation "key bus route" is not being set by an independent source, but one could make the same argument for List of Michelin 3-star restaurants, for example. This is not me trotting out an other-stuff-exists defense; what I am saying is that perhaps there should be an SNG discussion to decide the issue more broadly.

    If a merge is appropriate, that can be discussed at the article's talk page. A Train talk 13:15, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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    Per WP:NOR. Bus routes are almost always non-notable and an article with an non-specific inclusion criteria and a selection of 15 artitrary routes. Most of the sources fail to provide an evidence of notability Ajf773 ( talk) 06:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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    • Partial Merge to MBTA Bus. There are several other articles on Boston bus routes; I can't find any rule-based reason to keep those pages or the per-route descriptions (in the "Route list" section). However, the designation of these as "key routes" isn't WP:OR and there's enough information that it should be mentioned somewhere. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 19:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep (and rename) - The nominator appears to misunderstand the subject matter here, which I can understand given the title. This is not a subjective and original list of key bus routes in a city, it's a page describing a category of bus routes in Boston formally designated as "Key Bus Routes", a unique status with distinct features (both operationally and legally/funding-related) that differentiate them from other MBTA bus routes. Multiple reliable secondary sources confirm this usage, as indicated above. While the MBTA is a primary source, many transportation articles rely partially on primary sources for the simple reason that secondary sources just don't repeat material found in primary sources. However, since this page is more than a mere list and ask explains the history and characteristics of Key Bus Routes, I would propose removing the confusing "List of" and renaming to MBTA Key Bus Routes. I would be willing to do post-move cleanup work to better serve the new title. Shelbystripes ( talk) 14:51, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      (To be clear, I endorse keeping either way, whether the move/rename is also adopted or not.) Shelbystripes ( talk) 14:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I understand the subject matter perfectly. The AfD questions both the criteria of key bus routes being original research and whether any of the bus routes are notable in their own right (or as a collective). It appears from all the sources presented, that the key bus routes criteria is a self published by the bus brand themselves and that notability is yet to be established as the sources are mostly trivial mentions. Ajf773 ( talk) 17:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep (or rename to MBTA Key Bus Routes program) - The article needs to be expanded to include more about the history of the program and the current improvements they're working on for these routes, but it has gotten a lot of press over the years for the reasons others have stated, including late night service and key-route-specific bus stop improvements and treatments. I don't understand the "original research" claim by the nominator as that is for editors on Wikipedia, not government agencies providing the service in question. As for "self published", where else would this information come from if not the MBTA? Other editors have provided link after link of sources from reliable news outlets outside of the MBTA's control to show the notoriety and depth of press coverage in the region. While someone in another country might not care much about a list of bus routes in a random medium-sized city in the US, can't that be said about a vast majority of articles on Wikipedia about local and regional matters? Grk1011 ( talk) 22:59, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Again. Routine coverage about night services and bus stop improvements is trivial at best. Where is some actual resources showing the history of these "key routes" from valid third party and independent (non MBTA published) sources. Wikipedia is not a bus fansite catered to a small audience. Ajf773 ( talk) 23:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
        • Independent third party sources discussing Key Bus Routes were already provided above by another user. Shelbystripes ( talk) 05:20, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
          • Which ones, and be specific. Ajf773 ( talk) 06:59, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
            • I haven't been involved in AfDs much very recently, but you're being a bit inflammatory here. Editors can state their reasons and provide whatever backup they feel is necessary. An admin will then read over the responses and make a decision based on the apparent consensus (not votes) of the community. There is no requirement that you, as the nominator, are satisfied with the responses. Grk1011 ( talk) 19:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
              • I'm aware that an AfD is a consensus, not a vote. I am, like anyone else participating, allowed to dispute claims. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                • Your objections have been clearly noted by now. You are coming across as berating each and every editor who votes, not adding anything new in the process, just repeating what you'd already said before they voted. Clearly not everyone agrees with your interpretation of WP:ROUTINE or WP:NOR or WP:N regarding this topic, and they should be free to express votes or ideas contrary to yours without fear of beratement. Assuming in good faith that this is not your intent, your tone and repetition still come across as hostile and may discourage editors who would disagree with you from commenting, undermining the integrity of the AfD process. Please consider the consequences of your continued aggressive responses. Newly participating editors can already consider the quality of sources provided (for example) and your objections to them, since your objections are already recorded further above in full. Shelbystripes ( talk) 19:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                  • Given you understand this is a debate and I am allowed agree or disagree with everything that is added this this discussion, from where I see it. I don't see the need for you to post this, it adds nothing of value to the discussion. Ajf773 ( talk) 21:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                    • I agree with that. Those who want to keep this article need to actually produce secondary sources that specifically discuss this set of routes, instead of attacking an editor who points out the lack of significant wider secondary coverage. Charles ( talk) 22:12, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                      • The issue was that over a dozen secondary sources were linked in the various responses above, but this editor does not appear to like them, claiming they are either regional press (and somehow bad) or the source of their articles is the primary source (MBTA). I simply pointed out that asking the same question to every single commenter when it's has already been answered is disruptive. It's bizarre that we're expected by this one editor to find some outside source to prove that the MBTA has designated its own routes as key. Only the MBTA can decide that and the criteria for being "key" are listed and sourced. As a government body, its procedures are transparent. Grk1011 ( talk) 23:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                        • I have mentioned why I don't think they are up to the standard of sources required for notability. Bus routes are not notable unless there is significant and independent coverage in secondary sources. MBTA itself is a primary source. Other sources which mention things like service changes are trivial (and most of them don't even mention any of the route numbers or any mention of "key routes". As there is a lot of historical content in the article space but a lack of sources validating them, I'm still unconvinced. Ajf773 ( talk) 23:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
                          • That's fine, as long as you actually understand the requirement here is not to convince you personally. Your personal approval is not necessary. Other editors clearly do accept the sources already provided, even if you don't. They're not required to convince you if you insist on remaining unconvinced. You do understand that, right? Shelbystripes ( talk) 06:32, 20 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    • Keep  Merge was discussed and rejected back in 2008 on the talk page.  The point is not to say that this topic should or should not be merged, but that it is a violation of WP:Deletion policy to use WP:DEL8 to delete topics with merge targets, and there is no argument made here for IAR.  Unscintillating ( talk) 02:22, 26 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Delete as per Charles and nom - Fails WP:NOTDIR, WP:NOTTRAVEL, WP:BUSCRUFT and WP:GNG - Back in 2014 the UK bus routes were all deleted due to a lack of notability and there's nothing different with these, Also if a passenger wants to know where a bus goes to and from then they should check the bus operators website - not an encyclopedia!, and last but not least a lot of these all become outdated anyway (One article a few years back was 5 years out of date!), In short this whole article fails GNG as well as the bus-related guidelines. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:47, 27 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      As noted above, this page is more than a mere list and is not intended to just provide route information; it's a description of a specific subset of bus routes that are treated differently than other bus routes for MBTA operational and funding purposes. To prevent confusion on this point, I proposed above that the article be moved to MBTA Key Bus Routes (and volunteered to do cleanup work to this effect). Several other editors commented in favor of this approach. Shelbystripes ( talk) 22:47, 27 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Please read the article (and perhaps a few sources) rather than rashly claiming this is a travel guide. Detailing the frequency and span-of-service standards that the agency uses is not a schedule. Giving the official names of the routes (the MBTA and its predecessors have always used number + terminal/route as the official name) is no more a travel guide than saying that Amtrak trains 1/2 is the Sunset Limited. And the map - notably not the current map - is used to illustrate that the agency considers the routes important enough to include on the rapid transit map, not as a map to actually navigate the system. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 03:14, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    All in a nutshell it's a travel guide, As you spend your time with everything MBTA it's blatantly obvious you're going to debunk everyones !votes and harp on repeating the same hymn about how it's not a travel guide and how we're all wrong- I'll save you the bother - It's a travel guide, No matter what way or which way you look at it ... it's a travel guide, As I said it includes prices, destinations, bus company names, maps ..... Telling me the map is for this and the prices are for that doesn't prove a thing - I'm judging the article on an outside perspective and how I personally percieve it. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 04:33, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Where does the article include prices? (Apart from mentioning the $10 million price tag for the Key Bus Routes Improvement Project.) XOR'easter ( talk) 19:49, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Simply linking to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a non-response and adds no value to the discussion. It's an essay (not a policy) and notes that there can be "valid or invalid" reasons for raising "other stuff exists" as an argument, and that when the point is fairly argued, "these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes." It seems to me that a valid question was raised (what distinguishes this article from an array of other articles that have been established on Wikipedia), and it is fair to expect a valid answer from you on that, not just a link to an essay that can cut both ways. Shelbystripes ( talk) 17:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • You are using circular logic and mischaracterizing the content of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. It specifically says that precedent and concistency are valid reasons to consider, and the question posed to you was what about this article makes it worthy of deletions when other similar articles exist. You completely ignored that question, and posted a link to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS instead of an actual answer. You're now taking that one step further, using the potential for some other articles to be deleted in the future, to argue that this one should be deleted now also. The fate of those AfDs is far from assured, since they haven't even begun yet. Now, can you give a valid explanation for what makes this article less notable than other articles in the same category, as you were asked? Shelbystripes ( talk) 22:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS appears to be the obvious answer from the original question. We simply do not use the existence of other articles as a basis for keeping or deleting articles. We are discussing this article on its own merits, not the merits of other articles. There are plenty of reasons already given in this discussion why I believe this article does not comply with the basic policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. Ajf773 ( talk) 10:41, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • That's not the point. Ajf773 was the one who invoked WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS to justify deleting an article. As a mere essay, it alone is not a valid reason to delete any article, when (as actually observed on WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS), "identifying articles of the same nature that have been established and continue to exist on Wikipedia may provide extremely important insight into the general concept of notability". Someone identified an entire category of similar articles, and so far no valid reason has been given for disregarding that whole category of articles when considering this particular AfD. Shelbystripes ( talk) 22:21, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    My point in bring up the category is that there are 64 lists of bus routes in that US based category (and more globally). Other than this one, I haven't found one that has been taken to AfD. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Key MBTA bus routes dating back to 2006, meaning this has been around for, actually 12 and a half years. Poor wikipedia has been in disrepute for all this time because of its existence (that's sarcasm). It also means this one has been taken to AfD twice now. Again, what makes this one special? At the time it was saved as no consensus, even though there were 5 Keeps to 3 Deletes. One of the Delete votes commented astutely; "Delete its a bag of crap.", another was just "per nom", so the argument of that third delete vote had to be a doozey to outweigh all those Keeps. One Keep respondent noted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Buses route 1 which was a Speedy Keep-Withdrawn. If you are prepared to take all of those 64+ lists to AfD, then that is a different wholesale discussion. Otherwise the long term existence of all of this stuff proves a de facto validity to keeping these lists. Trackinfo ( talk) 05:46, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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    Certainly, so someone in the delete camp needs to explain why this list is deficient, not arguing that the general concept of such a list should be deleted. Trackinfo ( talk) 15:36, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    If the content comes from external sources, it's not original research, even if those sources were published in Boston (which not all of them were). XOR'easter ( talk) 16:33, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    "Certainly, so someone in the delete camp needs to explain why this list is deficient" .... we have ... a good 2-3 times, If you want to ignore policy based reasons then that's up to you but asking everyone to repeat their reasons again and again and again is disruptive, You have your answers above and you have also have solid policy-based !Delete arguments bove .... unlike the !Keeps which are all essentially "Keep because WP:ITSNOTABLE". – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 18:21, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    You are failing to understand that the set of routes taken together need secondary sources. Urban planning studies are primary sources. Charles ( talk) 19:22, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    We already have two references not from the MBTA that discuss the grouping of these routes into a common category. In fact, that's what the list is sourced to at the moment. The point of citing references that discuss specific routes within that category is to make historical information available about those specific routes — information that is independent of the MBTA and not characteristic of a travel guide. XOR'easter ( talk) 19:41, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Per WP:NOR 45 sources, many of them from government agencies but multiple government agencies reporting this information. Clearly refuted.
    Bus routes are almost always non-notable proved false by the existence of the 64 other lists I identified.
    an article with an non-specific inclusion criteria and a selection of 15 artitrary routes. Most of the sources fail to provide an evidence of notability. the sources I found in a simple Google search shows these are specifically identified routes based on federal, state, associated cities and the agency itself. The identification of these routes are sourced in the article dating back to 2006, clearly a dozen years before the NOM. Did you really read that? So the basis of the entire NOM is disingenuous to begin with.
    Delete per WP:OR, WP:NOTGUIDE, WP:NOTTRAVEL and above all WP:N an astute echo of the NOM.
    Delete as per Charles and nom - Fails WP:NOTDIR, WP:NOTTRAVEL, WP:BUSCRUFT and WP:GNG Another echo. And there is no WP:BUSCRUFT, you made that up. Following that, yes, finally there is a true statement Category:Lists of bus routes in the United Kingdom has been decimated by noms by you Davey2010. And with a discussion by a microscopic number of commenters. What a terrible disservice to people outside of London. The perceived salt of that action is probably what is preventing the other content from reappearing. As to the statement if a passenger wants to know where a bus goes to and from then they should check the bus operators website. We, wikipedia, are the primary source of information on the internet. People come here to learn. Even locally, I am astounded how few people know the name of their local bus operator. I happen to have done a documentary that broached this subject so I have done actual research. Ok that statement was WP:OR but its also not in the article. At least here in the US, people don't know how to find the local operator. We, as the place people come for information, should have the information. Then at best they are three clicks away from finding the company, its website and the generic schedule page in varying forms of presentation (some of which absolutely suck). If editors have gone through the trouble to present this information, someone explain in actual words (rather than ambiguous essays or non-existent policy statements), what is the problem with wikipedia having this information publicly available?
    I've never been to Massachusetts, I have no dog in this fight. Nor do I have a dog in UK, though I have visited decades ago. What I learn is from what is in the article, its attached sources and Google. Unlike a lot of AfDs, there is a lot of there there. I extremely dislike aggressive stupidity trying to push legitimate content off of wikipedia. Trackinfo ( talk) 22:24, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    Comment - This AfD has been relisted multiple times and there is clearly, at a minimum, no consensus to delete. I propose closing the AfD without deletion. Shelbystripes ( talk) 00:10, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    Comment - Shelbystripes has !voted Keep above so ofcourse they're going to say this, Consensus in my eyes is towards delete due to the GNG-failing at best however I !voted delete so shan't say what I believe. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 00:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    I'm eager for an outside observer to weigh in now. With the number of editors who have !voted Keep (and given consistent reasoning for doing so) and the utter failure of the Delete commenters to explain why this post warrants deletion when many similar articles are considered notable, I can't see anything remotely close to a Delete consensus. Perhaps someone who hasn't weighed in yet will be able to resolve this mystery. Shelbystripes ( talk) 02:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    We've explained a good 3-4 times why it should be deleted, All of the keeps are nothing more than " WP:ILIKEIT - not a valid reason to keep, Alls we need is an admin to come a long, read the consensus and smack the delete button. – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 02:14, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    Wow, that's almost the exact opposite of the actual discussion. One Delete commenter literally just linked to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and when pressed on the fact that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS actually says a general body of articles may be considered when evaluating notability in an AfD, basically said "Well I want to nominate those other articles for deletion too". You cannot use your hypothetical future AfDs of other similar articles to justify deleting this article. That is not how Wikipedia works. And reading the rest of the discussion, the consistency of editors weighing in against Delete, and the fact that two relistings were required and still couldn't generate consensus, I can't see how any rational person would interpret this discussion as a consensus for Delete. Shelbystripes ( talk) 02:39, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    I honestly don't believe this AfD will end up with a consensus. Ajf773 ( talk) 04:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    Nor do I. XOR'easter ( talk) 17:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    I also agree that there's no consensus; the multiple different content change / merge proposals can be discussed elsewhere. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 18:01, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
    Only an uninvolved admin can decide whether there is a concensus, having given due weight to policy based argument. Charles ( talk) 21:26, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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    The result was delete. Sandstein 12:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      No sources cited at all and fails  WP:Notability. It is very much written like a how-to-do page. Page here: [51]. Ernestchuajiasheng ( talk) 11:24, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. While I am sympathetic to Zagalejo's arguments, there is consensus to delete the article. This may be due to the difficulty English-speaking westerners to assess the coverage of the PBA, but the current notability consensus for basketball does not include the PBA (perhaps this should change). Malinaccier ( talk) 00:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Fails WP:NBASKETBALL. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 00:03, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Delete Fails WP:GNG; I'm not seeing enough significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Does not meet WP:NBASKETBALL, as PBA is not one of the SNGs listed leagues.— Bagumba ( talk) 15:31, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • delete Doesn't meet any notability standards and lacks the coverage required by WP:GNG. Sandals1 ( talk) 21:26, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Weak keep Wikipedia has massive amounts of unsourced content on Filipino basketball, but I do believe a lot of this material is salvageable. In the case of Salamat, I found this, this, and this, for starters, and there's probably more material out there somewhere. I suspect that there's a massive amount of print material on Filipino basketball that most Western editors will never see. (Some tantalizing evidence here.) There's probably a lot of additional material that was once available online, but has been lost to the ages (unless you know exactly where to look in the Internet Archive). It's clear that all of this data in the Wikipedia articles isn't being passed down by oral tradition! Zagalejo ^^^ 18:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      These sources seem like routine sports reporting and are all about his hopes to get back up to the PBA, which isn't even considered a top level league. Sandals1 ( talk) 19:20, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      People keep citing WP:NBASKETBALL like it's holy scripture, but I think a case could be made for including the PBA. There is a fairly recent discussion about that here. In terms of talent, the PBA may not rank very high, but in terms of fan interest and media coverage, it's a reasonably significant league. The definition of "routine sports coverage" is a tricky one, but these articles at least go beyond the basic reporting of game scores and league transactions. Zagalejo ^^^ 20:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      It's a personal call, but I don't think 3 short articles saying he wants to get back to the PBA meets WP:GNG. Sandals1 ( talk) 20:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was keep. It would be good if the sources turned up in this discussion could make their way into the article. A Train talk 13:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      The subject fails WP:NCORP, WP:GNG due to the lack of in-depth coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The article fails WP:NOTADVERTISING. Rentier ( talk) 00:36, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was no consensus. Nothing so controversial here to warrant an extraordinary third relist. A Train talk 13:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      This page was a suggestion a while ago but I didn't create it as I found it non-notable. The mention in Kotaku is not a "significant" one but only mentions it off hand as an example of one of the crappiest games promoted by Sony. That leaves Eurogamer and Jimquisition as the only significant mentions and according to WP:VG/S "[The Jimquisiton] cannot be used to demonstrate notability. It fails WP:GNG. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 20:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was keep. Nomination rationale has been clearly rebutted by Nick Moyes. A Train talk 13:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      1) No sources 2) cannot find reliable secondary/tertiary sources on this subject suggesting it isn't that important 3) Wikipedia is not a dictionary — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvilxFish ( talkcontribs) 09:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Well, it's certainly an established term - plenty of articles on Scholar use it [53], and there's extended definitions in textbooks [54]. Whether that's enough for an article, I don't know. If not, merge to electrical conductance? At least some sort of definition (maybe in that article) would be good. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 09:52, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Keep I've address both long-standing flags for no sources and no links (orphan). I've also managed to find and insert quite a range of independent WP:RS to show this term is in use across a number of scientific research fields. I'd never heard of it before, but that's no reason for deletion. Nor would WP:NOTDICT apply any more, as this article has now been expanded sufficiently to being more than a mere definition. Note to nom: do remember to sign your AfDs in future, please. Regards, Nick Moyes ( talk) 02:03, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      Sorry I do normally sign my comments, must have just slipped my mind. Thank you for expanding on it I couldn't find any good secondary sources when I tried. EvilxFish ( talk) 13:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. A Train talk 13:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Struggling to find enough independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Promotional article. Edwardx ( talk) 17:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. I'm interpreting LaundryPizza03's comment as support for deletion. No prejudice against recreation as a redirect to UZi if a good article can be written there. A Train talk 13:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO and WP:MUSICBIO. This singer is notable primarily for his work as a member of the musical duo UZi. The sources cited in the article consist of primary source interviews, articles which make trivial mention of this person, or sources that support his notability through his work in the duo UZi. A online search revealed few secondary sources to support notability, independent of UZi. Magnolia677 ( talk) 14:32, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Sandstein 12:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      At first glance, the number of sources create the illusion of extensive coverage. However, many of these sources are either unreliable or do not describe this musician in-depth. I'm afraid Beckner does not pass WP:GNG; his bands are not notable, his albums were released independently, and I can't find any major chart listings/awards. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 09:30, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      I also suspect that the page creator ( Mediaforthemasses) may be associated with Beckner, such as his agent or PR person. 331dot ( talk) 09:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was redirect to Dreamcatcher (band). No prejudice against restoring article if sufficient coverage can be found to warrant it. A Train talk 12:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Fall Asleep In the Mirror (without the disambiguation) was redirected to Dreamcatcher (band) a few hours ago by Explicit and was proposed for deletion on 26 December by Boleyn. I haven't looked for sources much, though there is an English-language review which may or may not have had editorial oversight. The Korean Wikipedia article has no sources, though there are probably some Korean-language reviews out there. Jc86035 ( talk) 09:25, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      Comment KpopBoy, if you disagree with a page being turned it a redirect, challenge it, don't create another article the same at a different title, that's disruptive and confusing. Boleyn ( talk) 16:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was no consensus. A Train talk 12:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Promotional article, created by a WP:SPA. Edwardx ( talk) 12:20, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      No sweat. If you have changed your mind, you could withdraw the AfD. 104.163.153.162 ( talk) 00:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      • Comment. The refs in the article don't support notability so I can see why this is at AFD. The refs provided above are better but still look on the weak side so i'm leaning to delete but will reserve judgement as better refs might be forthcoming. Szzuk ( talk) 21:07, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. ansh 666 06:59, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Non-notable. Non of the articles listed as reference or in google search go even an inch towards notability  — comment added by Force Radical ( talkcontribs) 10:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      I would like to note that the "sources" given by Arsh 18 consists mainly of trivial interveiw with the subject in question. Also the mention at Bharya (TV series) is unsourced .Most of the coverage the actress has received seems to be from fan mags and a few interviews from newspapers — comment added by Force Radical 🎆 talk 🎄 contribs🎆 09:09, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      Keep: Finding her funny bone on tv, Anchor-actor Alina Padikkal on her journey & Romance is not my cup of tea, I love action more: Alina Padikkil ; these articles from the most valued and taken news websites has proven that the actress is more notable to be encyclopedic. -- Arsh 18 ( talk) 12:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      I don't have any idea about Indian TV, but Bharya (TV series) suggests she is notable. She seems to be similarly notable as Ronson Vincent. Xx236 ( talk) 13:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was no consensus. Sandstein 12:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Minimal coverage, fails WP:NALBUM. Merry Christmas! Baby miss fortune 03:53, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      1. https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22805-rune-husk-ep/
      2. https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/01/of-montreal-unveil-surprise-rune-husk-ep-stream-download/
      3. https://news.avclub.com/of-montreal-releases-new-ep-with-uncharacteristically-l-1798256277
      4. https://www.axs.com/of-montreal-drop-surprise-ep-rune-husk-113000
      5. https://www.stereogum.com/1919718/stream-of-montreal-rune-husk-ep/music/album-stream/
      6. https://exclaim.ca/music/article/of_montreal_deliver_surprise_rune_husk_ep
      Enough to meet the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 19:42, 18 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was no consensus. There's clearly no consensus to delete, so the question is whether to merge this content to Donald Trump on social media or keep it separate. But we don't have consensus about this either. The merger discussion can continue on the article talk page. Sandstein 12:32, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Listing the nicknames of people Donald Trump assigns them on Twitter is trivial at best. Jay Coop · Talk · Contributions 08:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      Here's some evidence for a GNG Keep: "Trump's nicknames for rivals, from 'Rocket Man' to 'Pocahontas,'" Fox News. Carrite ( talk) 04:52, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "It's not just 'Rocket Man.' Trump has long history of nicknaming his foes," USA Today. Carrite ( talk) 04:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "The running list of President Trump’s nicknames for political rivals," New York Daily News. Carrite ( talk) 04:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "From 'Sleepy Eyes' to 'Rocket Man', the list of nicknames Trump has invented," Singapore Straits Times. Carrite ( talk) 04:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "Presidential name-calling: What 'Little Marco' has to do with 'Rocket Man' (and nuclear weapons)," CNN. Carrite ( talk) 05:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "Did Trump nickname people in school, too?," NBC (video). Carrite ( talk) 05:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "Trump's nicknames for rivals, from 'Rocket Man' to 'Crooked Hillary.'" TownHall.com. Carrite ( talk) 05:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "No, Donald Trump Is Not Good at Nicknames," Slate.com. Carrite ( talk) 05:07, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "An illustrated guide to the weird names Trump called his rivals," Revelist.com. Carrite ( talk) 05:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      And "'Crooked Hillary,' 'Lyin' Ted Cruz': How Donald Trump Picks His Disparaging Nicknames for the Other Election Players," People magazine. Carrite ( talk) 05:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Keep Oppose merging, especially with Donald Trump on social media, since a lot of the nicknames do not originate from his usage of social media. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 04:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Keep Under WP:GNG given frequent coverage; unlikely to be temporary; analogous article exists for Bush; and not all on social media, so I wouldn't combine with that. Understand the concern above about his comments on mental health (and the abusive, insulting, childish nature of these nicknames) - would be all for making it clearer that these are just verbatim quotes not endorsements, if that isn't sufficiently clear, but I don't think that negates the usefulness of having an article compiling them. Perhaps more balance could be instilled, and useful context provided, by [[[editing]]] to add a prose section on commentary around/response to the insults.` Wikiminaj123 ( talk) 04:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Keep - The use of nicknames will be a noted historical aspect of Donald Trump and his presidency. It will be considered a major staple of his brand. It is essential that this article be kept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Flying Soda ( talkcontribs) 05:14, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Keep Significant news coverage of this topic in aggregate - [55], [56], [57], [58], [59], etc. etc. Samsara 06:42, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was Keep. bd2412 T 03:07, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      DePRODed by creator. Concern was: Bit part/voice actor in animations. No in-depth sources in mainstream media. Fails WP:NACTOR. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 08:24, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Keep, original PROD rationale was incorrect, there are a number of mainstream sources on the page, not all film credits are from animations, either. I would say it passes point 1 of WP:NACTOR in part, the multiple films however is an issue, which I am looking to resolve. Dana has recently been on stage but I'm struggling to find any sources. Night fury 09:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Delete only one significant role, and that is as a voice actress, which just does not bring the same level of attention to the performer as live roles do. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Keep Hmmm. I guess one could make the argument that she has "only one significant role, and that is as a voice actress", but it's both blatantly not true and it's a featured role in the Despicable Me (franchise), described as "the highest-grossing animated film franchise in box office history, and the 12th highest-grossing film franchise of all time." Again, the rush to deletionism leads editors to arrogate the role of deciding that notability is based on what they think is unimportatnt. Just because I'm uninterested in country music and have decided that being a country music performer "does not bring the same level of attention to the performer" of other forms of music (the ones I like, of course) would be a piss-poor argument for deletion of an article about a country music performer and it's equally invalid here as an excuse for deletion. The claim for notability is strong and the sources here and those available elsewhere establish that claim. Alansohn ( talk) 16:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was merge to Melbourne Beth Din. The only particularly strong keep argument is from Alansohn and there is a rough consensus to delete. However, Melbourne Beth Din is a valid redirect target (per WP:ATD-R) and since the subject is (long?) dead there are no BLP concerns from keeping the article history intact. A Train talk 21:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Sources in article are passing mentions. BEFORE doesn't bring much better (a few more passing mentions, in particular regarding his brother/sons). Heading a beth-din by self-appointment does not seem sufficient for WP:JUDGE. Icewhiz ( talk) 08:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Keep His role in his community for 40 years and certainly his role as a judge for 20 years are strong claims of notability. The source from ABC (Australian TV channel) is entirely about him and his role at the bet din. In the absence of a hierarchical structure in Judaism, most judges will be self appointed and what's relevant here is not that he appointed himself but that he was accepted by the community at large for two decades combined with the issues of how he conducted himself, all of which were covered in depth by a reliable and verifiable source. Other, similarly strong sources are also available to be added, and I'm sure that if I knew Australia better that there would be further references available. Alansohn ( talk) 16:22, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
        • The ABC source is a radio show from 2002 upon the dissolution of the beit din. Most beit din heads are actually not self appointed - this only happens in small or new communities. Current sources do not support GNG for this individual. Icewhiz ( talk) 20:30, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
          • I'll call bullshit here. The ABC source is the transcript of a radio show (I'm unsure how bolding impacts the quality of the source) that covers him in-depth in the context of his beit din. How it was formed is irrelevant and I'm not sure why you're passing the source of as non-print justifies blowing off the source. Alansohn ( talk) 20:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
            • The other 2 sources in the article are crap (Not only is their RSness questionable - they barely mention the guy). The ABC radio interview/roundtable is primarily about the dissolution of the beit din and prospect forward - and not about Gutnick. It is possibly usable (not sure if ABC stands behind what interviewees say - you may have to attribute) - but claiming SIGCOV off of one radio show (that is primarily about a different subject, some coverage of him)? That is a stretch. Icewhiz ( talk) 21:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Keep - Google Books results also show evidence of notability. Υπογράφω ( talk) 16:57, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
        All 7 of them are passing mentions or directory entries - often in the context of other Gutnicks (His son, father,or brothers). Icewhiz ( talk) 20:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Delete- sourcing is too weak to establish notability as per Icewhiz-- Rusf10 ( talk) 01:10, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Keep- He is a notable person in the community, especially since his removal was not retirement but due to allegations of corruption and extortion from a print article that I could not find online. I am looking for it. An alternative because the online sources are a bit thin would be delete and I could move the information into a new article about the Melbourne Beth Din.-- smellytap 22:30, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
        • You do have BLPCRIME (or is he dead? You do not have a date of death issues) for the bio. I do agree that the dissolution of the beth din in 2002 would be relevant information on an article on the beth din. Icewhiz ( talk) 19:35, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      • Delete -- a nn individual; does not meet WP:ANYBIO / WP:GNG, for lack of sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail. A "notable person in the community" means just that: the subject is only of local interest and is not suitable for inclusion. Allegations of nepotism and running a one-man show are exactly the things we should not be putting in an article on a recently deceased person. K.e.coffman ( talk) 20:37, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Delete -- On reflection there is not much about this individual, and most of the publicly relevant information can be inserted into other pages. to answer the other question, he is dead. smellytap 16:41, 1 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Delete not enough sources that discuss this indivdual in detail. Of course after seeing som many articles sourced only to the non-reliable IMDb, I begin to wonder if using reliable sources is still a thing on Wikipedia. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:05, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Merge to Melbourne Beth Din per WP:BIO1E. Really only notable for the allegations surrounding his role at the Beth Din, and two reliable sources (an Age article and ABC radio story) does not exactly meet the bar of significant coverage. The article is nothing more than a stub anyway. Kb.au ( talk) 06:08, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 05:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Notability issue, As most reference are from Wikipedia itself and none of them written about subject in depth. ·•· 1997 kB 03:52, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Keep References 4, 6, 7, and 10 are independent RS discussing the subject in significant depth. GNG is met. Jclemens ( talk) 05:34, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Delete -- both sources offered above are interviews and are not suitable for establishing notability:
      • Before he knew it. Tilton had perfected an impressive (!) blackjack strategy that was working quite well for him.
      “Necessity is the mother of invention, and the result was the creation of a virtually undetectable system, something never before documented,” he said. This discovery prompted him to write the book, “The Blackjack Life.”
      The coverage is clearly PR-driven and WP:SPIP, not independent of the subject. Sources in the article is of the same quality: "Blackjack ace from Newburyport turns to financial planning". Newburyportnews.com. Etc. Basically, promotional 'cruft on a nn individual. K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:20, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      • Keep The sources about him in reliable and verifiable sources establish his notability as a blackjack player / author. There are some crappy, irrelevant and promotional sourcing, but that's an issue for cleanup not an excuse for deletion. Alansohn ( talk) 19:12, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Delete, of the "sources" presented here as being the best, one is a primary source, and the other is pretty obvious marketing fluff. Neither are useful in demonstrating that this individual meets the WP:GNG. I don't see much better in the sources used in the article, which are either not independent of the subject, or in niche publications that look to have somewhat dubious reliability. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 02:25, 6 January 2018 (UTC). reply
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      The result was merge to List of shopping malls in Malaysia. Sandstein 12:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Another non-notable list of shopping malls. Fails WP: NOTDIR. Vnonymous ( talk) 10:45, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Sandstein 12:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      None of the source prove notability. ─ 1997 kB 11:47, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Sandstein 12:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      speedy declined because 'they are signed to a notable label', in this case an only possibly notable offshoot of a conglomerate. A horrible bunch of promotional fluff about a band tat barely exist, which is why I don't think they are notable. TheLongTone ( talk) 15:01, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Comment What is the "notable label" that are signed to? Without a reference how can such a claim be verified? All I can find is they've posted stuff on spotify and other self-download sites. I'm abstaining from voting because researching this AfD will require--I suspect--reading French (which I can't do). However I am immediately suspicious that any musical act that was formed little over than a year ago and whose first release, as of this writing, is three weeks old, can be considered encylopedic worthy. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 18:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      I don't think you need to be able to read French, ShelbyMarion, there are mentions in reliable sources in English: [62], [63]. However, this all reeks of WP:TOOSOON and WP:PROMO, with lots of peacock language, such as a total misuse of the word "breakthrough". Richard3120 ( talk) 20:50, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      fails WP:NPOL John from Idegon ( talk) 07:15, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      San Marcos has made national headlines numerous times this year and is one of two small cities in Texas whose mayor has signed the climate mayors. Now more than ever our politicians need to be accessible. I believe through edits this page can pass the guidelines through non promotion and notability. -kmo26 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmo26 ( talkcontribs) 07:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      http://climatemayors.org Climate Mayors are the only leadership in our country who have collectively vowed to stand with the world and combat up against climate change. Happy Holidays to you, too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmo26 ( talkcontribs) 11:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 05:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      fails WP:NPOL John from Idegon ( talk) 07:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was merge to Bundi State. Spartaz Humbug! 05:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Delete: It relies entirely on only one source, which is a website and websites are not reliable sources in historical articles. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 07:09, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      Yes, you can check it too. It just lists a list of rulers of Bundi, without ever citing a historical book or any scholarly work. You can find the source on the article's page. Besides, websites can provide as secondary sources for an article, but when it relies entirely on one source, a website, then it can be deleted. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 10:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      • Comment A relatively minor ruler in 16th century India is going to be hard to source. That he is mentioned at all speaks volumes. We need to examine the website in particular. IT may or may not be written by someone knowledgeable. It feels like it was taken from an old printed source. If so, that would suffice for me. We need to search for more sources. It might wind up that we need to merge this into a List of rulers of Bundi. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 13:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Keep He was the rules of an indepent state. As long as his existence is verifiable we should keep the article. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      The article is indeed notable, but it relies on only one, unreliable source and we cannot just assume that it is from an old printed source, either delete or redirect to History of Bundi. See WP:HSC for more information on citing historical articles. After conducting research on Rao Surtan, I found some websites in which he is mentioned( http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsFarEast/IndiaRajputanaBundi.htm) but none of them ever give a source to where did they get this information. Most of the sites where he is mentioned are mirror sites of Wikipedia. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 06:47, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      That being the case, the thing to do is to add a "refimprove"" tag and contact Wikiproject India to see if they can help with sourcing. Perhaps speedy keep as nominator says subject is notable. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 04:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      If you check the article, you will see that it has had a refimprove tag since March 2014, but no references have been added. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 14:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      After a detailed analysis of the website( http://members.iinet.net.au/~royalty/ips/b/bundi.html), I found it does list some books as sources, but they do not cite Rao Surtan. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 15:24, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      So, what's the final desicion? I've seen that the discussion has been inactive for 2 days. Hagoromo's Susanoo ( talk) 14:15, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply

      @ Hagoromo's Susanoo: Yeah, about that. Deletion discussions run at least seven days. -- Dlohcierekim ( talk) 14:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:50, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Fails WP:PRODUCT. No significant coverage found. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 05:41, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Biography of a politician whose only claim of notability is as a non-winning candidate for office. As always, this is not a claim of notability that passes WP:NPOL -- a person has to win the election and thereby hold a notable office to get a Wikipedia article because of politics per se, and otherwise he has to have preexisting notability for some other reason. But the only other potential notability claim here is that he was the chairman of the horticultural committee for a smalltown Rotary Club, which is in no sense whatsoever a reason why somebody would qualify for an encyclopedia article either -- and the only sources here are a census transcript on a genealogy site, and a glancing namecheck of his existence as chairman of the horticultural committee in a 75th anniversary overview of the entire Rotary chapter. None of this, neither the substance nor the sourcing, offers an actual reason why he would warrant an encyclopedia article. Bearcat ( talk) 05:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was redirect to The Voice (U.S. season 10). Killiondude ( talk) 05:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Poorly sourced article about a musician, whose only substantive claim of notability is having been a non-winning contestant on a reality show. As always, this is not a claim of notability in and of itself -- a non-winning contestant can still get a Wikipedia article by actually passing WP:NMUSIC, but is not handed an automatic inclusion freebie just for being on a reality show per se. But there's no claim to passing NMUSIC here, and no strong reliable source coverage to carry it: the referencing is entirely to primary sources, social media, podcasts and unreliable blogs, except for a single reliable source which contains no information about the subject at all, but rather is here to support the tangential fact that Nashville is called the country music capital of the world -- which is entirely irrelevant to Wakefield's notability. As always, no prejudice against recreation if and when his notability claim and sourceability actually clear the bar, but nothing here is enough as of right now -- we are not a promotional platform for aspiring future stars, but an encyclopedia about those who've already made it. Bearcat ( talk) 04:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was Delete and potentially merge some of the material. Will move it to the creators user page. Let me know if you wish the preexisting text. Have added a redirect. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 11:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply


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      Fails notability criterion. This organization has not received significant coverage from independent secondary sources. The few sources that speak on this organization are local, with one regional example. Additionally this entire article seems to be written and maintained by a member of this organizations board of directors that has cited their own documents. Criticality Incident ( talk) 04:25, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply


      KEEP - I am the author of this article. There are five independent sources for six of the ten references for this article. Those sources include the major radio and print outlets in the region in which Camp Rising Sun operates (two newspapers and one radio station), and the independent Charity Navigator which reflects the organization's valid 501c3 status. Most importantly the New York Times, a globally recognized news source, covered the situation in depth and fairly, and recognized the existence and role of SaveCRS. Documents from Camp Rising Sun's own website have been included to provide a complete and balanced portrayal of the facts and history.

      This wiki article has far more information and independent sourcing than many nonprofit wiki pages.

      Lastly the Wiki editor who suggested deletion is an alumnus of Camp Rising Sun who has edited no wiki pages except for Camp Rising Sun /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Criticality_Incident and the suggestion for deletion is politically motivated. Rsarlls ( talk) 04:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Delete (possibly with selective merge into Camp Rising Sun (New York)) - There isn't evidence of encyclopedic notability for this organization, other than material that relates to the camp and thus can be covered on the camp page. I make no opinion on whether the camp page is notable (since it's not up for AfD) but if this camp-related non-profit has any notability at all, it's in relation to the camp and can be covered on the camp's page. Shelbystripes ( talk) 05:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      • Redirect and merge to Camp Rising Sun (New York). The New York Times article discusses this group only in the context of longer coverage of the camp, its history, its alumni and its financial crisis. Charity Navigator listings do not confer notability. The motivations of the nominator are not relevant if their reasoning is otherwise sound. This article fails WP:Notability (organizations and companies). Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Delete (Perhaps merge some of the article with the section on financial difficulties in Camp Rising Sun (New York).) The newspapers are local, not regional, and I agree with Cullen328 that the NYT coverage is in the context of their coverage of the camp itself. Yes, I came out of lurking to work on the camp rising sun page, but almost exclusively to delete sections without npov (there were times when the article looked like it came straight out of a brochure) and to delete attacks on the board members. The fact that other articles on non-profits have even less attention from independent secondary sources is a sign that those articles should also be put up for deletion, not a sign that we should add to the pile. Criticality Incident ( talk) 23:52, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      KEEP - SaveCRS is a legitimate spin out from the CRS LAJF community and should enjoy notability no different than that of the Protestants or splintered off political groups. Attempting to silence hundreds of dissenting voices has not, and will never work to resolves any differences. Here is an example of a group that was born out of similar circumstances, albeit on a larger scale: /info/en/?search=National_Woman_Suffrage_Association. An even more recent and relevant example of groups splintering off as a result of an organization's financial missteps can be found on this page /info/en/?search=Cooper_Union_financial_crisis_and_tuition_protests#Free_Cooper_Union, which is separate from the main Cooper Union page /info/en/?search=Cooper_Union. Are we going to start deleting and/or merging pages of every organization in history that has branched, spun, or otherwise splintered off from an established or larger group? TigerJackson ( talk) 14:40, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Does not satisfy biographical notability or general notability. Most of the references are not independent. Google search turns up nothing that has been independently written about him, but the usual vanity hits of what he and GreenRope have written. (Google search also finds another Lars Helgeson, but they are clearly different people.) Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      • Delete the section on his career is too fully of buzz words and promotionalism. Even if we could find a way to fix this flaw, there is just no sign that he is notable. Wikipedia is not Linkedin, and that is exactly what this article reads like. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Spam article changed to a redirect then reverted from redirect multiple times by COI editor (see tag). No evidence in reliable sources this is a notable company or notable person fails WP:N and WP:CORP. The Wikipedia article claims the company name and person's name are interchageable but no sources presented support this claim WP:OR. The references should be removed as spam, but then there would be no references. Steve Quinn ( talk) 03:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NACTOR John from Idegon ( talk) 02:35, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was no consensus. Killiondude ( talk) 05:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

      I made a bad call here. Re-closing as delete. There was essentially only one user vying for a keep while three others argued for deletion. It is irregular at best to change the decision after this amount of time has passed. I apologize. Killiondude ( talk) 22:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Does not seem to meet notability criteria Kevin McE ( talk) 22:52, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The sources are better, but he still does not meet the criteria on WP:NCYCLING. — Formal Dude( talk) 21:53, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      You seem to be arguing that because he does not meet WP:NCYCLING (which strictly speaking and as far as I've been able to determine, is true, albeit by a margin of literally seconds), he is automatically ineligible for inclusion. That's not how WP:NCYCLING or other subject-specific inclusion criteria work. If the article does meet the criteria set forth below, then it is likely that sufficient sources exist to satisfy  the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article -- in other words, if he had won the 2002 national ITT, then I could convincingly argue that sources were likely to exist without necessarily producing them. However, failing to meet the criteria in this guideline means that notability will need to be established in other ways. This is what the sources in the article achieve, showing that a) he received significant coverage for his cycling achievements in both sport-specific and general media even prior to his death, b) his death was covered not merely as a routine traffic fatality but as the death of a notable athlete, and c) the available web sources indicate that there's likely additional coverage available in print archives. In short, it doesn't matter if he doesn't meet WP:NCYCLING because the sources show that he meets WP:GNG. Υπογράφω ( talk) 02:04, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      I really don't think that this does meet GNG. Local newspaper items are not generally considered sufficient, the reports on his death are featured as a case of driver asleep at the wheel rather than victim-centered, and if even the very small circulation national special interest publication only gives 3 lines to the national record, we are talking very niche. The lack of any real biographical info suggests that the press may have considered his results worth reporting, but not himself highly noteworthy. But Wikipedia is not a repository of specialist event results in national level events in minority sports. Kevin McE ( talk) 11:42, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      I don't think it proves your points at all, the sources do not prove he was covered for his cycling achievements by general media. They are not from independent websites. The ones from independent websites all only cover his death. — Formal Dude( talk) 22:45, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Killiondude ( talk) 05:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Fails WP:GNG, WP:ORGDEPTH, and WP:MUSICBIO. Except for this and this (which reads like a press release), there is almost nothing published about Raider Klan--except for trivial Soundcloud stuff--to establish notability. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:58, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      WP:CFORK of two barely-related articles ( Terrorism in the United States and List of assassinations#United_States). No need for a combined list. ansh 666 01:53, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      The result was no consensus. This could possibly have been adjudged a "keep", but the bottom line is that there is not sufficient consensus to delete this article. Discussion as to an appropriate move or merge can continue on the article's talk page. A Train talk 07:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      The article seems to have no encyclopdeic value, in addition to maybe being a violation of WP:NPOV. Jdavi333 ( talk) 01:23, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Delete and do not merge into Political appointments by Donald Trump as some others might suggest. No other lists exists for ex-presidents. Corky  Buzz by the Hornet's Nest 02:53, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Keep -- This article was nominated for deletion based on an assertion of WP:NPOV issues. Those issues will be resolved with references. The article will eventually be MOVEd to Trump nominees who withdrew. I suspect we will discover in retrospect that this administration suffered a higher attrition rate of appointees and nominees than any other administration. citation needed original research? (See, I saved you the work). Creation of the article is BOLD. Secondary sources exist. CNN quoted this: "relative to the number of confirmed people, Trump's percentage of failed nominations is very high," with numbers that followed. More references will follow. In the mean time, we should not lose this article. Rhadow ( talk) 11:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Comment I agree with Rhadow. Other administrations don't need a list because they don't have controversial descisions to put controversial people in government positions. AFAICR no other administration has had the problems dishing out the spoils that the current one has. L3X1 (distænt write) 15:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • I, on the other hand, disagree with both @L3X1 and @Rhadow. I find their proposals partisan and selective, and based on their own personal points of view, which their own laughably self-righteous and POV rationales confirm:

        "I suspect we will discover in retrospect that this administration suffered a higher attrition rate of appointees and nominees than any other administration. citation needed original research? (See, I saved you the work). Creation of the article is BOLD.")

        and

        "Other administrations don't need a list because they don't have controversial descisions to put controversial people in government positions."

        Ummm, can anyone say CRYSTAL and OR?? If you create such an article list for Trump, then one should be created for every POTUS (FDR, Reagan, Nixon, and Clinton would appear particularly apropos, but ALL POTUSES should be covered in the interests of fairness and consistency). Quis separabit? 22:21, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      Quick response is that OR is for article content not whether or not to have an article. L3X1 (distænt write) 23:18, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      Upon further (though relatively shallow) digging, most of the other POTUS's seem to only have these issues regarding Supreme Court appointees, not for the Cabinet and other positions. I'm sorry if I appear self-righteous, but I think calling OSE to be just as big a non-solution: This can't exist till everything else that probably should exist exists. As for NPOV, the facts are that Trump nominated people for a position, and they withdrew. L3X1 (distænt write) 23:58, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      "most of the other POTUS's seem to only have these issues regarding Supreme Court appointees, not for the Cabinet and other positions." -- that does not sound either reliably sourced or genuinely investigative in nature. What's more, such a list is pointless, partisan, and divisive. Quis separabit? 01:40, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Strong keep - As pointed out above by Rhadow, the unusually high number of withdrawn nominations is based on observations in secondary sources and is not OR. The fact that other pages don't exist is not a good reason to delete this page. Not every presidency is the same or has the same issues. It's not unprofessional or political to simply create pages for notable events supported by secondary sources. Shelbystripes ( talk) 06:30, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Comment -- This discussion has turned personal and partisan. There are plenty of other places to pursue it on the web, but not on an article talk page. Arguments based on WP:OR, WP:NPOV, or even WP:CRYSTAL are fine. Please leave unprofessional, self-righteous, pointless, partisan, and divisive out of the conversation. If you wish to to add to the article that the current administration has been extraordinarily successful at placing appeals court nominees, that's fine. That's a fact. Rhadow ( talk) 12:07, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was keep. Killiondude ( talk) 05:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      No evidence of notability, and all but one source is from the organisation's own website. — Formal Dude( talk) 01:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Keep I don't agree all sources are from the organization's site, where we have sources from respectable newspapers like Taipei Times and Taiwan Today. In addition to source from Historical Dictionary of Taiwan Cinema which is invaluable academic reference material. This is poor nomination as you've not done WP:BEFORE properly with clear contradiction of your statement and the actual content of the article. Ammarpad ( talk) 10:25, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      @ Ammarpad: All of the current sources were added after I had nominated for deletion. See here. — Formal Dude( talk) 23:48, 30 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      That's why WP:BEFORE is recommend. If you had properly followed the process you are the one who would've found the sources and add. Nominating for AfD usually is the last resort after search fails to bring up any meaninful source or no evidence that sources can be found. – Ammarpad ( talk) 00:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Non-notable corporate entity. Viennese Waltz 15:06, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      Changed to delete per KECoffman. L3X1 Happy2018! (distænt write) 14:21, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      • Delete - this is basically a corporate training department not a "university". There's nothing to merge, as the article does not cite any sources and nor does it contain any meaningful encyclopedic prose. The entire article is pretty much this:
      • ...founded in 2001 through the merger of all the training and education departments of the group. Eni Corporate University mainly shares the goals of the typical Corporate university, and in addition it is responsible for recruitment.
      This could be said of any corporate training department. A redirect is pointless; since typing in Eni would bring the reader to the page of the company. K.e.coffman ( talk) 01:34, 3 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Delete unreferenced and no secondary references found. I don't believe it attempts to issue any academic credentials, merely being an internal training division with a fancy name. [75] suggests one of its divisions might accept students and offer a degree, but without at least one secondary reference to that effect this can't be kept. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 19:11, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. There is a consensus among registered editors that the subject's many quotes to do not constitute in-depth coverage of the subject. A Train talk 07:46, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Non-notable individual lacking non-trivial, in-depth support. reddogsix ( talk) 20:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      • Keep: Cameron Howe is a Melbourne-based journalist who regularly works with larger media outlets including, Fairfax and News Limited newspapers, in addition to writing for a number of independent publications. This site should not be deleted for the above reasons.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.26.130 ( talk) 121.214.26.130 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
      • Save- the above comments regarding the deletion of this webpage fail to support their claims with any meaningful information, and other Wikipedia users have not been given the opportunity to add further information to this webpage. The comments regarding the deletion of this webpage can only be described as cyber bulling — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.26.130 ( talk) 07:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Comment - There is no cyberbulling here and your comment only shows your lack of understanding of Wikipedia guidelines. Please see WP:N for information about article inclusion requirements, also please read WP:AGF before responding to anyone's comments. reddogsix ( talk) 15:49, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      • Comment-Lets be accurate, the full quote is, "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.". The coverage fails to support notability. reddogsix ( talk) 03:18, 22 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      • Keep The coverage is of state significance on a host of political issues that could determine the result of the next state election in 2018, not to mention that the Mordialloc Chronicle which he writes for has received a capital injection. The Chronicle Newspaper Group is challenging News Corp's Leader newspaper group with the intention of having 55 newspaper by the end of 2018. He currently writes for 3 newspapers and again regularly commentates on issues of state political significance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.108.231 ( talk) 06:05, 28 December 2017 (UTC) 1.144.108.231 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply

      Just to add. He is a media source quoted in national newspapers owned by Fairfax Media - The Age, Bendigo Advertiser, etc and News Corp - The Herald Sun, Leader, The Daily Telegraph etc. Also referred to in a press release by a notable political in state government and had his views read out in Parliament — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.108.231 ( talk) 06:08, 28 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      • Comment - Quotes are neither in-depth nor non-trivial coverage. reddogsix ( talk)}
      How about just common sense? reddogsix ( talk) 06:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      • Comment It should be noted that all keep novotes, except for the one made by Subuey, have been made by IP accounts with no other prior contributions to the project (except one with 3 edits to another article). -- Crystallizedcarbon ( talk) 17:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC) reply
      • Delete there's no claim that he meets any SNG (including WP:NAUTHOR) or is particularly important in any way. The references (other than his personal website) are him acting as a spokesperson in local news, and are very much reference-bombing (SIX references for "is a frequent media commentator", all of which are simply places he has been quoted in news stories, and not about him or his media-commentating actions). power~enwiki ( π, ν) 11:51, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 05:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      Was redirected to Jumanji the movie by another user. I figured it was worth debating instead. Coin945 ( talk) 00:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

      • Delete no coverage in reliable sources. Nothing indicates this game achieved any kind of notoriety. I tried several different searches, under varying search terms, and used the "newspapers" search. The article has been on Wikipedia since 2012. So, there has been plenty of time to gather reliable sources and there aren't any in the "references" section. Fails WP:N and WP:NWEB - this topic does not merit a standalone article. --- Steve Quinn ( talk) 02:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply
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      Delete I couldn't find any references for this. Not sure it meets GNG. Lee Vilenski( talk) 12:37, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply
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      The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 00:19, 5 January 2018 (UTC) reply

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      subject is not notable Johnathlon ( talk) 00:29, 29 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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      • Delete One insubstantial mention in The Toronto Star is all I find. [76]
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