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Hi, Liz, esteemed colleague! I'm afraid I've declined your WP:A7 at that page, as there is some vestigial claim of significance there and I don't think it quite qualifies as G11. I agree it shouldn't be part of the encyclopaedia, leaving it to you to choose how best to bring that about. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 08:27, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Liz, and thanks for all the good work you do at AFD. I mean that sincerely, I appreciate the care you exhibit and your willingness to close more difficult odiscussions.
I was surprised to see you close the discussion after your involvement here and here. I recognise that the numbers are clearly on the same side as your comments on my talk page, but I think myself and one other provided a robust and careful policy-based argument against deletion.
I hope you will support this request to re-open and let someone else uninvolved close it, please? CT55555( talk) 23:56, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, this article Jazz (Transformers) AFD has been relisted for 8 days now, so I think it's time to close it now. Davidgoodheart ( talk) 00:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
I've left you three pings but to no avail as yet. Could you please head over to that talk page and respond? Schwede 66 23:33, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
I see that you have deleted my draft of this article, in accordance with established Wikipedia guidelines, and I have no issue with you doing this. However I would like to please ask for your help. Unfortunately I kept coming up against what i though was extremely tight interpretation of Wikipedia policies and no matter what I did, it was never allowed to appear on Wikipedia. The main references were from BBC-provided programme schedules which is allied to, both slightly independent of, the BBC website, taken from a listings magazine which, at the time, was owned by the BBC. Other references were from recordings of the programme. These sources were seen as unacceptable and the article was draftified. Therefore, if you can give me any help with getting this article onto Wikipedia, it would be much appreciated. The article is about a shortish-lived 1990s radio programme on a station which was broadcast across all of the UK.
To my huge frustration I forgot to add the article to my Sandbox so I have requested that it be returned to draftspace so that I can copy and paste it into my sandbox.
Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide. Rillington ( talk) 00:11, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
I saw you deleted (moved to drafts) my article YΔ- and ΔY-transformations. The reason you give is "Userpage or subpage of a nonexistent user". But I am very much an existent user. I am new so there might be something I don't understand. I would appreciate if we could revert this step. MWinter4 ( talk) 13:04, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello... I don't know if you got any of my replies yet!?!? I would tag you but that offends people... Sorry to disturb you by the way... CPLANAS1985 🇵🇷 🇺🇸 (Male • T • C • IG • FB) 18:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The author of this article is running riot over Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikigrannies, indulging predominantly in personal attacks rather than making any kind of constructive contribution. I don't think engaging with them there will serve any useful purpose - however, they have picked up on your comment that the nomination was "silly" and I'd be quite interested to know why you thought it so. I obviously didn't think it was when I made it, but as I have long respected your opinion at AfD I'd be happy to put right and/or given the opportunity to discuss. Dorsetonian ( talk) 19:11, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
You deleted both draft and test page. Please help me and don't do it, is important to be on this page. Danavirgiliu ( talk) 08:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
You have put much information how to edit Wikipedia and the five pillars ... I am more of visual learner so ,would you please suggest me any videos that are live online if you know, for me to better understand Wikipedia's guidelines!? Worldviewfrom ( talk) 23:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi there Liz, if you have a minute, could you take a look at Gabe Amo along with the conversation on the talk page? The article was recently redirected as a result of a AfD and then almost immediately recreated on account of the circumstances surrounding the subject changing. Not sure what the correct/best/appropriate approach is in this situation. Thanks! - Skipple ☎ 04:36, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
I have new material and documentation that I recently found that I was planning to add this week. I believe that this additional information would make this proposed entry meet Wikipedia standards. — Carl n8vz ( talk) 13:49, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Liz. I believe you probably delete more
R2's than anyone, so I wonder if you have any thoughts on whether new-page reviewers should have suppressredirect
in order to avoid leaving cross-namespace redirects when draftifying (either bundled in new-page reviewer or through requesting page-mover specifically for draftifying). See Primefac's proposal
WP:VPR#Give NPR additional rights?
SilverLocust
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17:56, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
This was/is at afd. I was protecting to stop the creator form move warring. -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 22:32, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Greetings Liz, I was wondering why the two categories I recently created were nominated for SD and I somehow did not find the reason why, I was hoping to get a reason so that I can learn from my mistakes as I thought the categories were to be like Category:AKA (rapper), what is preventing those from being like that instead be nominated for SD? shelovesneo ( talk) 02:39, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
hi Liz, I am new to wikipedia.I would want to address any concerns that were raised that is making it marked as to be deleted.The page provides valuable information to readers and has got many references . Jjmgwiki ( talk) 14:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, for Salaga Senior High School(SASS) you said [1] that WP:R3 doesn't apply to page move URLs but I had thought that redirect would probably be eligible under the "unless the moved page was also recently created" criteria since the article was only at that title from 00:44, 6 June 2023 to 04:35, 6 June 2023. Sounds that sound right, or is it because the redirect itself is reaching the end of that period, probably? Thanks! (Either way no worries just curious for any potential future nominations.) Skynxnex ( talk) 23:21, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
I think Surat antcomp copied and pasted it from user:Ir. Indah Megahwati, MP I think they are the same person. I think the latter wanted to rename and did not know how. It's all very confusing. -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 08:58, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Were you moshing to Angry Samoans back in the day...? ;)
Thanks for everything you do. Caro7200 ( talk) 14:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi @ Liz, thank you so much for taking the time to reach out regarding my first article - Massimo Vidoni AKA The Truffleman. I'd really appreciate your insight into the re-written article Draft:Massimo Vidoni (AKA The Truffleman)
Best,
Nanwikieditor01 ( talk) 18:46, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I have read that when there is an issue I should seek a recently active admin. Ive been offline for several days, but before, I removed a link to a pedophilia advocacy groups website, which got someone to start cussing me out. Can you check [2] and help me understand if this is acceptable? Underwoods Witch ( talk) 03:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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I indicated in my edit summary for the deletion of User:Fred Luciano that the user already had the same content in a sandbox of which he also has another. Now, that very-confused new user has a third copy at Draft:The Shrine of the Five Wounds of Our Lord Jesus Christ thanks to you, at least one of which you were supposed to delete. Chris Troutman ( talk) 12:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:55, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi i would like to request an undeletion of Article page @ Qing madi into draft for further edits. Recent information has been discovered on account of this page as regards chart entries and Nominations.
Thank You
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qing Madi George Nyiam ( talk) 15:05, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, I removed the speedy tag suggesting this one go to AfD due to possible notability. Then I saw you had tagged it; I would have contacted you first before doing this. There are multiple gushy refs but my reasoning was that they are refs nonetheless even if marginal.
Honestly, sometimes I do this sort of thing based on my interpretation of Wikipedia’s guidelines, then look again at what I untagged and wonder why. I see I just untagged an article that fails my own non-binding, invalid, unpopular, personal guideline for many popular culture articles. (In a nutshell: “Why do we want these?)
You do what’s best. — A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 03:29, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I see that you deleted Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/List of Bath City F.C. seasons/archive1 per G6 but left Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/List of Bath City F.C. managers/archive1 alone. They were virtually identical: why one and not the other? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:10, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I think there's been some confusion with the naming. Right now we're trying to separate the actual video game character lists from articles in a list-format per a discussion here. That's why it was moved to the Characters title, because there's some dev/reception going on there instead of a straightfoward list like the Smash Bros. or Animal Crossing ones. Kung Fu Man ( talk) 21:35, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I was surprised that you chose to delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Witchcraft (traditional) while commenting that the content appeared to be valid enough to continue work. I don't understand why the proper venue would be to push it into draft space; I understand the purpose of that is to be part of the AfC process to reduce creation of spam and other inappropriate content by anonymous users. I'm not sure what the benefit of requiring it to go through the clogged AfC process would be. My understanding of Wikipedia is mainspace is supposed to provide constant opportunity for revision and improvement. Regardless, I would very much like to resume providing editing the page to provide sourced material on the topic. Darker Dreams ( talk) 01:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello. A category was recently created to accomodate 100 Years (film). I think this category (and similar others) is of little encyclopedic use, given the utter uncertainty such a release going through (the copy could be damaged or destroyed, someone could steal the safe, the company could change their mind fifty years from now, etc.). While it could be argued that any category for an unreleased work is a crystal ball, something this far out is just too imprecise to serve as anything other than a curiosity. 2803:4600:1116:F44:88B1:E34E:B521:CBD6 ( talk) 04:08, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Please WP:REFUND the deleted Sudden Death Seven-ball to User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Sudden Death Seven-ball; a summarized version of it would make reasonable list content, if we do a list of cue-sports media (there are several prior deleted article that would also make good entries). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:15, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, Liz. How are you? I am unsatisfied for deletion of Ruslan Sabirly page and don’t agree with the result. Unfortunately, i could not participate in discussion, as I knew about it after page deletion. And also page was deleted with only 3 delete comment. Also it seems Azerbaijani Togrul R. has its own conflict with Ruslan Sabirly as wants delete his page everywhere. This is not first time he does it. Anyway Togrul R. says: “The fact that he is the first verified user in the region doesn't make them notable”. But this is not shown as a reason, this is just like title, because he got verified in 2014, when this was not available in Azerbaijan. He got it from Germany producers, while worked there on movie project. From another point why Togrul mention only this, but not Ruslan Sabirly’s career and activity?
He also mentioned that "Foreign tourism expert" isn't a notable role. But Ruslan Sabirly has played 9 leading roles on famous movies and TV series, which are mentioned in page.
Another Delete comment is: article's sourcing consists of promotional blurbs in clearly unreliable Azerbaijani websites, and passing mentions in slightly better but still probably unreliable Azerbaijani websites. That is not true, there are a lot of articles and interview about him and his career on Ministry of Culture of Azerbaijan Republic’s, governmental news agency AzerTag’s, and Azerbaijani leading news websites as 1news.az, trend.az, milli.az, day.az, azernews.az. these are alla reliable news portals and sources. If you Google his name Ruslan Sabirly (in English) and as Ruslan Sabirli (in Azerbaijani), you can see all this articles and Google Knowledge page. By the way i went through link in deletion discussion panel and it searched “Ruslan Sabirly” which make sense for search result and it brings not correct results.
So, Ruslan Sabirly is not the promo page. Also he was anchor on TV morning show. Also he was directed movie The Call. Also he is founder and producer of big festival which is held with support of government and other organizations for 5 year. This festival brings writers and cinematographers in together, helped them realize theirselves and make them popular to whole country. This project was a first time event in such theme. All mentioned above makes him encyclopedic person. And that is why i am kindly asking yo to undelete this page, please. Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Russolini1979 ( talk • contribs) 11:34, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, request undelete the above page under Draft - G13 so I could work on it. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 03:32, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello! Please restore deleted page Kristiāna Zacmane - Latvian women's national team player. I will provide more sources. Thank you Renārs Krīgers ( talk) 13:30, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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voorts ( talk/ contributions) 23:52, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Hello this article created by same person with another name and change title just 25days after deletion by discussion to bypass wikipedia rules : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitra_Rafee_Nia
The article deleted via discussion : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mitra_Rafee Moaijf92 ( talk) 09:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, I have edited Wikipedia because it's fun and interesting. I get the feeling I'm doing something useful for society.
That feeling has been fading away since the start of the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalki Avatar and Muhammad. I put in a lot of work with nothing to show for it but a lot of abuse (and your note).
This blatant abuse was tolerated by administrators at:
And now today at:
I try scrupulously to follow the rules and keep my cool even as I'm goaded to try to force a misstep on my part. It's hard work but I think I do it pretty well.
In these discussions, I got attacked. If the abuser lost momentum, other related abusers magically appeared. Finally, some admin maybe stepped in and maybe waved their arms at the abusers - but nothing really changed.
Meanwhile, I get told by regular editors or admins I should maybe have done something differently:
So the abusers get off and I go away chastened, unvalidated and a bit less enthusiastic about helping here.
I think some admin(s) need to seriously put their feet down.
Or am I just a slow learner in the wrong environment? -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 04:09, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
The above two places Tambaram and Avadi were considered suburban areas of Chennai City and are part of it's Metropolitan Area.Recently they were upgraded to Municipal Corporation status by merging adjoining suburbs and local bodies.In India,a Municipal Corporation is considered a City,not a suburb of another City.Please look into the same. Raghavan( Talk) 05:48, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz! I noticed you deleted The Frog Princess (film) under CSD G8. I’m just leaving this message to request its undeletion, as - prior to this edit by the sockpuppet - it seems that it was a valid redirect to The Princess and the Frog. (I’m hoping that’s the right diff I’ve linked there — I got it from the contribs page that I had open before the deletion took place.)
All the best (also I love your editnotice!), user:A smart kitten meow 15:47, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
I see you rejected this draft here. I removed some unsourced content today, and I'm not sure the article is ready for prime-time. Do you feel it should move back to draft? Thanks. Magnolia677 ( talk) 20:14, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
I need to talk to you a lot. The topic is about Wikipedia. You give your whatsapp phone number. Then I will talk through whatsapp. Srabanta Deb ( talk) 00:59, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Deauthorized. ( talk) 02:57, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Look, I understand that the individual D.I.C.E. Awards may not be defining but I have to point that there are category pages for the British Academy Game Awards winners at Category:BAFTA winners (video games). In my opinion, the D.I.C.E. Awards are more defining than the British Academy Game Awards. There are also categories for Category:Game Developers Choice Award winners, Category:Golden Joystick Award winners, and even Category:New York Game Award winners. There also category GOTY winner categories for the Game Developers Choice Awards and Golden Joystick Awards. At the very least I will be recreating the categories for D.I.C.E. Award winners and D.I.C.E. Award for Game of the Year winners. MR.RockGamer17 ( talk) 14:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Liz! I tagged the copyvio rewrite proposed at Talk:Mary Raine (football)/Temp for deletion as G6 as it could not be used to replace the copyvio article Mary Raine (football) because it was not copyvio–free (but was not bad enough to be eligible for deletion as G12). It's a mystery to me why you thought that moving an unrepaired copyvio to draft space was a good idea, but I've gone ahead and deleted it myself this time around. Just a note to remind you that pages with titles such as Talk:Foo/Temp and Draft talk:Bar/Temp are special copyvio rewrite pages. If they're usable they can be moved to replace the existing copyvio page; if they aren't, they should be deleted. I don't know what criterion other than G6 could apply in most such cases, so that's the criterion I use (it's also the criterion I use to delete copyvios that have been listed for over seven days at WP:CP without resolution). Regards, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:06, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
Thank you for your query, there is a simple explanation. I had an old draft page for Alex Matos, but I became aware that a page on main space for that football player exists, so my draft had become superfluous. So I deleted the info and used the template to create a page Jefry Valverde, another football player on my to-do list. I appreciate if that’s lazy, I hadn’t done it before and I will happily not do it again, turns out it doesn’t actually save that much time anyway (I’m just meant to be on holiday, and not doing things like that)
best wishes G Hildreth gazzard ( talk) 20:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Kia ora Liz,
I noticed that you recently deleted the above redirect, which was created following a page move of the article now at Charles Sound, stating that the redirect was "obviously an error". It's not actually an error, but rather the official name of the fiord and has been the article title multiple times in the past. I'm wondering whether it would be possible for you to undo the deletion? Ngā mihi, Turnagra ( talk) 09:34, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
about the deletion discussion in jeremy wood, where's the actual discussion? cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 11:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Why did delete Gopalji Radhabihari Ashram (Santdham) from Wikipedia? All information in this register was reliable and accurate. Why did you delete this edit anyway? Why are you suggesting and deleting all the edits I wrote? You are insulting me and deleting all the edits without showing respect to any of my edits. Again now Nimbarka Ashram, Sylhet and Kathiababa Ka Sthan,Vrindavan and started proposing to delete. You will also delete them. I regret to inform you that I will not be making new edits and entries on Wikipedia. Because you are deleting all my edits. stay well I hope to get the correct answer to my question. Feel free to let me know any feedback you have. Srabanta Deb ( talk) 13:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Modern_Muse. Sorry, but consensus schmonsensus. I doubt those people even looked. There aren't *any* reliable sources in the article, and given the UPE block of the original creator, the lack of any link to the proposed target, this just doesn't make any sense. If this had been created yesterday, it would have been a no-brainer G11. At least a relist might give a chance for a few more people to take a look and come to the only reasonable conclusion on this one. 35.139.154.158 ( talk) 17:40, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I removed your speedy deletion request for Category:Category-Class Celts articles, because it appears to be a project category for Wikipedia:WikiProject Celts ...no, I'd never heard of the project before either, despite editing Wales articles for 10 years :) Sionk ( talk) 13:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
I have read the article twice and didn't seem to find anything wrong with it, what was the reason for the deletion? And, if it was bad, why wasn't it rewritten instead of removed? FandomCereal ( talk) 15:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Yet again, I have asked Scope creep to leave me alone. I don't know what else can be done but I've had enough. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Knowing you often have words of wisdom for less experienced editors, and seeing that you have already posted some on the editor's talk page (below the item I am linking to), do you have anything you might suggest to them to allow them to remain enthusiastic, but to temper their knee jerk reactions, please?
The full link to the conversation is User talk:OlifanofmrTennant#About a draft you accepted 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:45, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello there. Is this an abuse of the process, as I am sure it is? This article should have been automatically deleted long ago, right? — Smuckola (talk) 17:50, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi I noticed you deleted "613 Torah Ave" because you couldn't find sources other than online stores. This isn't true. Apparently you don't seem to know "Orthodox Judaism". These are albums that every single kid grew up on. There are numerous articles written on it. Why don't you do more research before deleting it. Or at least give someone a chance to defend the claim. Thanks. BangKettle ( talk) 21:05, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Unsourced article. Only found listings on online stores and trivial mentions in some books, lacks significant coverage or reviews to pass WP:MUSICAs an expired PROD, you can request its restoration at WP:RFU. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I tagged that page with WP:A3 because of the misspelled "Ussr", which means that it was technically in mainspace. However, I admit that a better approach would have been to simply move it to userspace and tag the resulting redirect with R2. Dsuke1998AEOS ( talk) 02:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, can you reopen the WP:Articles for deletion/Civilian casualties in the Second Intifada as there has been a late comment at WP:Requests for undeletion#Civilian casualties in the Second Intifada. Jay 💬 05:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up after the latest incident. Do you think you could go ahead and revdel the stuff from Kianni from the other day as well? It's more of the same. Box of wolves ( feed) 02:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi. This is definitely not a big deal, but I moved Wildwood Cemetery to Wildwood Cemetery (Winchester, Massachusetts) to make way for a dab page (thanks for moving that one, btw). Only problem is along the way I accidentally moved it to Wildwood Cemetery (Wincester, Massachusetts), a misspelling. I thought G7 would apply since I'm the one who created the misspelled redirect a few minutes earlier. It's only housekeeping, so we can just leave it as an R from misspelling, but just wanted to let you know my thinking. Station1 ( talk) 03:44, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Ahsan Khalil is Pakistani notable writer as you can check his google knowledge panel as well ([ [3]]). Kindly restore it, so can wirk on it and replace it resources to independent and reliable resources. Skt34 ( talk) 07:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Why would you do that? The whole point of removing backlinks is that the pages are not notable. G5 and some other speedy deletion is not followed by any notability discussion. Pelmeen10 ( talk) 09:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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who has once created this? Thanks in advance.-- U. M. Owen ( talk) 00:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Greetings. Did this AfD close correctly? It doesn't seem so. - The Gnome ( talk) 07:52, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Liz. There's a new editor, Akaspo, that has a history of suspiciously sockpuppet-esque activity. The articles Battle of Chumb (1965) and Rajasthan Front were recently deleted, but they have since been recreated by this WP:SPA. Also created have been Draft:Battle of Batapur and Draft:First Battle Of Hilli. Additional actiivties by this user have been to change articles relating to Pakistani wars by spreading pro-Pakistani propaganda (e.g. "changed it to pakistani victory"; "Pkiatsni [sic] Victory, the other person did not put any source"; "There is nothing that implies 18 Pakistani soldiers were killed"; "Pakistani military victory, Diplomatic stalemate", "changed the claims"). All of the drafts and articles they create are riddled with pro-Pakistan propaganda using poor, pro-Pakistan sources. I believe both of these articlespace articles should be re-deleted until they can be reinstated by a neutral editor, as they are so thoroughly riddled with propaganda that they're beyond salvaging.
Additionally, they have attempted to externally network with blocked, known-sockpuppet accounts such as Altay74 and Pr0pulsion 123, learning Pr0pulsion's Facebook account and going so far as to confirm that they added Altay74 on their Instagram account ("I added you"). (Incidentally, Pr0pulsion 123 has gone on to throw a tantrum over their ban, which is how I found this in the first place). It is abundantly clear, therefore, that this band of users will continue to sockpuppet, and thus I believe these articles should also be WP:SALTed for extended-confirmed protection under WP:CT/IPA.
Although their edits on existing articles have been reverted, I feel like these users are knowingly employing a Gish gallop-style exploitation of Wikipedia's ease of article creation, wherein it takes considerably more effort both to get an article deleted than it does to revert an edit and to even find the article in the first place.
This has all been done in the span of under two weeks and is very clearly an instance of Pakistani nationalism, WP:NOTHERE, and extraordinarily likely sockpuppetry being coordinated outside of Wikipedia. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 00:16, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing my muck-up at Template talk:John Cain Jr sidebar. Sorry: thought I knew what I was doing and got carried away. AukusRuckus ( talk) 16:22, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello!
Thank you for your time. It looks like you are the editor that reviewed an article I recently just tried to publish. On the Redirect to deleted page "User:Aidan Park") Tag: Twinkle ( thank). May I please get more clarification on what this means exactly so I can make the changes necessary and know what to do moving forward?
Thank you, have a great evening! Nscheuerman95 ( talk) 03:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
This draft isn't written in a neutral tone...). After you address it, you can click the button that say
Submit the draft for review!. After that, prepare to wait for a while; it may take a while for a reviewer to get to your draft. Hope that helped, Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 20:04, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of George Andrews Reserve. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Govvy ( talk) 19:26, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Randal Alexander McDonnell, 10th Earl of Antrim. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Pilaz ( talk) 13:36, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Why did you delete this article? A founding member of the IOC, he was an important and notable sports administrator internationally. Norden1990 ( talk) 19:22, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
I saw that you deleted the 2023-24 North Dakota State Bison men's basketball team page on September 26th, due to the reason of "Relying on a non-existent page". I was curious of the exact page that it relied on, as typically sports team pages will reference a couple different pages that will be created later on in the season due to the lack of relevance on those pages at the present moment. No harm, no foul of course, I just was curious why this page got deleted versus the other pages created for the 2023-24 NCAA Division I men's basketball season that do the same thing and didn't get deleted. I am requesting either an exact page that caused the deletion and/or the undeletion of the article or at least moving it to draft space so I able to remedy the reason for deletion.
Thanks, natethegreat4226 natethegreat4226 ( talk) 14:35, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, you were pinged at User talk:Jayneelyn#Paid editing. Jay 💬 17:25, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
You recently restored the following page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada (2nd nomination), in addition to the Israeli casualty page, and the master second intifada page.
Revisions were commenced on all three pages, but an editor just swooped in and deleted the Palestinian Civilian casualties page while there still was a discussion going on as to the proper future to the page (this has now hobbled the master article, and other editors are now pushing again for the deletion of all three under the justification that one of the articles was already deleted).
Looking to have the page restored per the last undelete so revisions may continue. And if deletion is ultimately necessary, given that this is an ARBPIA topic, isn’t it in accordance with contentious topics guidelines that more discussion and consensus seeking is warranted before things as severe as deletion occurs? Mistamystery ( talk) 19:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi friend. Hope you're having a good weekend. Normally I'd restore a G13 with just a ping, but wanted to ask if I was missing anything here since it didn't seem stale. It's not enough to go to mainspace, but I think there may be enough sourcing. Any red flags I should know about? Thanks either way. Star Mississippi 01:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi @ Liz, To respond to your comment of " bludgeoning" in this discussion. I am not trying to persuade others to my point of view but to participate in the discussion. What I find challenging during an AfD is when an editor casts a KEEP vote claiming that "lots of supporting sources exist" without providing them, and then other editors (often from the same WP) start showing up to also vote KEEP per that editor’s “findings”. I must admit that I get frustrated by this, as I have seen it happen before and it can be a pretty effective way (when combined with votestacking, stealth canvassing..etc) to rig the system. Wafflesvarrg ( talk) 09:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
@ Liz Happen to come across Special:Contributions/Hussain5121472 seems has spammed some number and info in multiple articles, most still not reverted. Idk if a case of doxing or just spamming.
Approached you since you seem to be last active admin on ANI. Bookku ( talk) 10:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Calv. The nomination also included Route 4/Thorn and Roots, and that article is now also CSD A9 eligible. Would you be able to take care of that one as well? Many thanks! Dorsetonian ( talk) 16:55, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
I want to make an article about Raditya Adi Mars1117 ( talk) 02:56, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
the article for my band (wristmeetrazor) has been repeatedly edited to remove my legal name, as i am in the process of scrubbing in from the internet. someone has made it a point to replace my name and harass me about how i “shouldn’t be in a band” if i don’t want my name online. i’m trying to either gain admin access to the article, or have it completely removed, so that i can fully remove the sensitive info from the edit history. the article is also abandoned and not being kept up to date, and i would like to have full control over it myself to be able to run it properly Userelaine ( talk) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
sensitive infoand
is also abandoned and not being kept up to date. See our deletion policies to see if there are any legitimate reasons that fit your needs. While Liz may have some additional thoughts on the matter, you may be better off asking at the Teahouse or the Help Desk to receive a broader answer to whether or not your concerns merit removing the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
If you have accidentally posted anything that might lead to your being outed, ... it is important that you act promptly to have the edit(s) oversighted. Do not otherwise draw attention to the information.I now suggest Oversight as your next step; though the only outing of your connection to that name was called out by you. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:37, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I would like File:Catalan Girl wearing Estelada as Cape.jpeg to be deleted please! I was the person who uploaded the file, but now I would like it to be deleted please and thank you! 😅 — SnowieLuna1212 ( talk) 21:32, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Good morning, please can you help me to access or check my drafts I made yesterday. It was two drafts here are they Draft:Caroline A. Wanga and Draft:Nicolas M. Chaillan Wappa PZ ( talk) 21:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
I suppose you receive a lot of these, but I wanted to show my appreciation for all that you do regarding deletion. After being active in speedy deletion for some months now, I can see the incredible amount of effort you put into this side of the project. Please accept a heartfelt thank you for your tireless work; I don't know where we would be without you. Schminnte ( talk • contribs) 17:45, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
It's taken long but I wish to revive now the article about
Minus one (music) which I orphaned back in 2022, for the dearth of effective (non-blog) citations. I would like to give it another try. May I respectfully request for its undeletion, if still possible? Help, please.
Truly yours,
Buszmail (
talk)
Hello, Liz! I noticed this FfD from August 2023. It should be noted this user has been blocked indefinitely on Commons for disruptive editing and changing images with no comments or reply after multiple times. I would suggest if they proceed with any future vandalism, an indef from the File namespace should be done. – The Grid ( talk) 15:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar |
To the administrators who've been deleting my many user pages as I clear out the chaff: I imagine its tedious work, and thank you for your patience and professionalism! I'm finally done, and further want to express my appreciation for the expediency all of you demonstrated. I wish you the best! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 16:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC) |
Liz, please reopen this discussion. It does not seem proper to hinge the fate of a decades-old article with dozens of editors on such a brief and low-participation outcome. BD2412 T 16:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, thanks for checking the deletion discussion. I think the main consensus was deletion of the article, as seen by the three deletion votes, one redirect vote, and two keep votes (one of whom was the original article creator and the other failed to provide arguments on how this article fulfilled WP:Notability). I think it will be reasonable to reconsider the no consensus tag, or at the very least, reopening the discussion. Makeandtoss ( talk) 19:35, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
My point wasn't about the editors ethnicities, my point is that there's likely off-wiki canvassing going on in that AFD. Any accusation of canvassing is obviously an aspersion, but it think it's something closer should assess. The cryptocurrency topic area is notiorous for UPE/COI promotional issues. Hemiauchenia ( talk) 05:20, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I wanted to let you know that this page ( India–Vanuatu relations) was seemingly recreated, after this AfD discussion resulted in a delete vote back in December 2021. I'm letting you know this because you re-deleted the page under CSD G4 back in June 2022. However, it's not "back" in its original form, but is a redirect to a NEW page. That page is India-Pacific Islands Relations, and almost exclusively focuses on India's relationship with Vanuatu. I can't see what the original India-Vanuatu page content entailed, but whether this is the same type of article, or different, I wasn't sure whether or not this would fall under the same umbrella as the last deletions. Anyway, thank you for your time! Utopes ( talk / cont) 06:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for taking the time to close the proposed deletion of Battle of Kelmendi; I'm not sure I understand your decision since by closing that AfD as “no consensus” we keep an article that has been twice nominated for deletion, is likely only supported by primary sources and as such is failing GNG and WP:EVENTCRITERIA guidelines. That last comment by @ JoelleJay was a request to see non primary sources in support of notability. The discussion was closed after that. According to your assessment: “This is not a comment on the article content, sources or page title which can be discussed on the article talk page” but how do you judge if sources contribute to GNG and WP:NOTABILITY without discussing them? It would have been worth extending the discussion a little more to finally find out. You did not answer my previous message and I suppose you are too busy but this whole process has been quite a disappointment. Have a good day. Wafflesvarrg ( talk) 09:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Can you please explain why you closed the AfD as delete? There was a clear alternative to deletion which I explained in the discussion. Can you please undo so I can redirect and keep the history? There's no reason why that can't be done. Deus et lex ( talk) 11:47, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Liz, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trimble County High School, the nominator has withdrawn the nomination. There are 5 keep votes (there was 1 merge, changed to keep) and no discussion in favor of deletion. Do the 7 days have to roll by before it can be closed? Can it be closed by anyone other than the nominator? Thanks! — Jacona ( talk) 17:32, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm posting this here because I don't know where I would post an edit request for a special page. User:Nosebagbear has very unfortunately passed away but they're still listed as a mentor which can cause some issues as the assigned mentees will not be able to have their questions answered. Can you use Special:ManageMentors to remove their mentorship? Thanks. FatalFit | ✉ | ✓ 02:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I do not understand why this /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Aquadoodle was delete instead of merge. As I noted, there are sources online such as https://www.proquest.com/docview/219290997/6E57753E1A144653PQ/11 and https://www.proquest.com/docview/330502121/1DC3FE7F5A264022PQ/15 to support the material. Can you please draftify the article so that I can merge the content? - Indefensible ( talk) 17:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Kind regards! Many thanks for following the AfD discussion of Arepera Socialista. I wanted to ask: given the minimal participation, wouldn't the outcome be closer to a soft delete instead of "no consensus", like other similar discussions about Venezuela? Best wishes and many thanks in advance. NoonIcarus ( talk) 19:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § RfC on the "Airlines and destinations" tables in airport articles. I saw that you participated in a
discussion on a similar topic.
Sunnya343 (
talk)
18:35, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz,
The draft is obvious UPE with no proper sources and an npov-infested text that was composed by an SPA. I mean, look at this: [4], Special:Diff/1179211692 – which account created just four days ago is so good at editing Wikipedia? The editing pace also doesn't match someone who is new but gets good advice. Please have a second look. All best, -- Johannes ( Talk) ( Contribs) ( Articles) 21:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz -- I wonder if you would consider reopening this AfD for further comment and source analysis? I have found the deletion proposer to be rather indiscriminate in their deletion/redirect work; they do not seem to perform adequate searches, and disagree with what I believe to be consensus on fictional character notability. In the course of contesting their redirection of Horatio Caine, I came across multiple sources for Mac Taylor, suggestive -- in addition to those found during the AfD -- that the character might be notable. Thanks, Espresso Addict ( talk) 01:51, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Just giving you the head's up that, per request at WP:RFU, I have restored an article that you speedily deleted, and have nominated the same for deletion via AfD. BD2412 T 01:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
Thank you for inviting me to the TEA house. I joined, I think that will be so helpful! :-) Mwikiforce ( talk) 01:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Regarding this. Would you be so kind as to fix the nominator's mistake shown? They apparently reopened the closed discussion to renominate the article and then just removed the previous discussion thinking that fixed the error. Thanks. 4.37.252.50 ( talk) 19:47, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, yet another refund request for Draft:Makita AWS, found myself hunting for the information yet again, and realised it never got migrated to article space. — Sladen ( talk) 07:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, just stopping by to say thanks for adding your observations. That's a weird sock who has caused quite a disruption so its good when we can nip them in the bud quickly. S0091 ( talk) 17:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
...in a discussion I've started about administrators and notifications. I simply mentioned you as an example of an administrator who (to my knowledge uncontroversially) does not have them enabled, so there is nothing to worry about, but you may be interested in the discussion. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Good day dear @ Liz i had an issue today moving an article to draft space so i can work more on it having no idea how that works i just tried to do it the way i can the article has already but i felt it needed more work thats why i moved it to draft so i can work on it better but then i see that it was deleted by you kindly explain this is it Keithian (singer). with love and have a blissful day. Randomwookiemarley ( talk) 20:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Did you even look at this? Talk:Marshall_Islands_national_football_team. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 22:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Scotched English. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. CiphriusKane ( talk) 06:40, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
I see you moved Kang (Android) (disambiguation) back to Kang (Android) rather than speedily deleting it per G6. However, as stated in the reason provided for CSD, Kang (Android), the original page Kang (Android) (disambiguation) associated with, has been deleted and no other topic in Kang couls match the qualifier "Android". That's why I self-reverted the same move I made to hold the base name, and requested G6 deletion instead, which is quite a similar situation like Eastern (country subdivision) (disambiguation).
Thanks, NmWTfs85lXusaybq ( talk) 06:41, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Note:
Kang (Android) has been retargeted to
AOKP by
Curb Safe Charmer which finished the job.
NmWTfs85lXusaybq (
talk)
11:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
G5 should not be applied to transcluded templates or populated categories unless they have been transcluded or populated entirely by the banned or blocked user; these edits need to be reverted before deletion.
Please can you revert all of the edits made by Teslacarowner then, as per
WP:DENY? It's much easier for an admin to mass revert these. All of these categories also violate
WP:SMALLCAT, which isn't surprising given that they're the sockpuppet of someone stopped from editing due to CIR. Keeping loads of crap categories created by a sockpuppet is not beneficial to the encyclopedia.
Joseph
2302 (
talk)
08:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Really?? Would you redirect Central Park to New York Yankees because they have trained there?? Why would you redirect a whole entire park to a football club? That makes no sense, can you please fix your redirect and point it too Keilor Downs, Victoria and it needs merging into that article too. WP:COMMONSENSE applies. Can you please fix this close, as from my point of view, it's a poor close. Govvy ( talk) 13:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Hey Liz! Could you undelete several of the WikiProject Adele quality templates deleted on 29 March 2022, like Category:High-importance Adele articles and Category:B-Class Adele articles? The project has recently become active again. This would be a big help.-- N Ø 14:37, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, would you be willing to userfy XMedia Recode after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/XMedia Recode. I understand consensus shifted on that, but I'm confident the article can be reworked to be less promotional, and to highlight the notability. I will not merely add the sources I already found and move it back to mainspace. — siro χ o 01:06, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
I think I might have discovered who one of the watchers of my user/talk page is. :)
Or maybe it was a chance crossing of paths. In either case, thank you for the assist regarding the near deletion of Outline of reptiles.
By the way, I'd like to run something by you, to see what you make of it...
I've been using an AI search engine/chatbot, but I don't have anybody to talk to about it. Everyone else in the household here are technophobes when it comes to AI.
It's not quite advanced enough to talk intelligently about itself, in the first person, in a satisfying way, otherwise, I would be having this conversation with it — though it is getting scarily close. It's writing quality varies, but fairly often it writes (erm, produces output) better than I do.
It's called perplexity.ai. It's free, and it doesn't require registration, which is why I use this one.
It's an app built on top of various 3rd-party server-powered APIs, though there are murmurs across the Web that the company is developing its own in order to escape dependence on other companies' programs and fee structures. As far as I can tell, its an integration of at least 4 AIs so far, and they don't appear to be generally aware of what each other is doing, which makes the thing come across as somewhat schizophrenic from time to time.
The 4 AIs that I know of are:
So, what can it do besides look up a simple search term?
Well, you can type at it conversationally, and it answers apparently intelligently, much of the time. It remembers the current thread quite a ways back, and so you can discuss or have it modify previous responses, or refer to aspects of those responses, and it will answer in context. For example, you can have it write an essay, or build a table, and then specify how you want it to change or expand it. Or, if you've just had it search for a movie, and you tell it to "summarize the plot", it will summarize that movie's plot and not the plot of some random novel, short story, or Shakespearean play.
When you ask it a question, it delves into the webpages returned by the search engine and formulates a response from those, and pulls the answer out for you. It can integrate what it finds into a single response, or it can report what each page's relevant answer is. This saves you the time it takes to skim the pages to find specific facts. It pulls them out very fast.
Because it answers from the web pages it has found, it bypasses most of the problems with "hallucinations" or making things up that other chatbots have. But there are fringe use cases that it chokes on, and spits out delusionary content. If you force it to make a list of like 100 wikipedia articles, some of them may not be real. If you ask about that in a later prompt, it might even confess.
If you ask it a question in different ways, it tends to find different material to work from, which can reveal more about a topic as you go along.
You can also provide it with your own input. Like an essay for it to edit, improve, stylize, transform, translate, or whatever. Though the size is limited.
It can produce output in a variety of formats, which is more of a function of GPT-3.5 than of perplexity.ai per se. When you start asking it about itself, sometimes it describes perplexity, and sometimes it talks about its own capabilities. It's easier to find out about what it can do by asking it about ChatGPT, which it has most of the functionality of, but for which there is far more coverage online than for perplexity.
You can specify style and format, and it will comply much of the time. It can write the output in English and who knows how many other languages. It can write output as articles, essays, profiles, book summaries, outlines, resumes, poems, song lyrics, bullet lists, tables, or software programs in something like 20 programming languages and CSS. It can provide output in html, xml, JSON, wiki source text, etc. You can specify style, such as "like a Pulitzer Prize-winning article from the New York Times", to "in the style of William Shakespeare". Or you can be less specific, like "in a journalistic style", or "in the style of an expert scientist on the subject".
It can summarize subjects, stories, news coverage, and specific web pages. It can write initial drafts of emails, invitations, birthday cards, Wikipedia talk posts, etc. It can answer as if it is a particular person, in the first person.
I think its limits are dependent in large part on the imagination of the user.
The one thing that annoys me the most about the thing is that it sure apologizes a lot. And, no matter how many times I ask or instruct it not to, it does anyways, even in the same response that it promises not to do it anymore. It's coming from a part of the program other than GPT-3.5, and that answer engine isn't aware that the apologies are being added to its responses. To avoid the apologies, don't criticize or point out errors. :) Good practice for being diplomatic.
A weird trait that the answer engine has is that it can be pretty literal, like an evil genie purposefully corrupting the wishes that it grants by twisting your words. So if you ask it "How can this Wikipedia article be improved?", it may answer by explaining how to go about improving it (like "visit WikiProject X") rather than recommend specific improvements. It makes you think more about how you phrase things.
Aside from its quirks, it is next generation compared to conventional search engines. And while I rely on it the most (and have been doing so since February), I still use duckduckgo, in combination with Snap Links, such as for scanning my favorite 50 news sites, etc. I switch back and forth a lot. Perplexity is really good at clarifying or expanding on specific points, and homing in on the epitome of things. So even when I'm not using it to produce something, I have it on standby on a separate screen to answer quick questions.
What does this have to do with Wikipedia?
It speeds up online research, and is one hell of a research tool. For example, you can ask it to make lists of citations, in MediaWiki wiki text format, for specific titles or URLs that you provide, like a list of news stories, and it will. It can summarize Wikipedia policy, and answer questions about Wikipedia and how to do things on Wikipedia.
I've experimented with it on building outlines, in Wikipedia outline style, but they're rudimentary at best, and it struggles with adding more than a few links at a time. But I haven't spent much time honing my prompts on this particular activity.
If you happen to be a user of it, or decide to try it out. Let me know what you think about it.
I hope I've piqued your curiosity, or that you at least found this post entertaining.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 09:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
I've never done a WP:CLOSECHALLENGE.
As you know, Wikipedia is built on consensus and not popular vote. In establishing consensus, users must back their assertions with a rationale.
While opposers of the opposition claimed in the deletion article that they saw GNG criteria being met, there was a lot of counter-discussion that what was being cited to assert GNG criteria being satisfied actually fell short/was unpersuasive. Others who asserted GNG criteria was met did not provide anything to back up their assertion.
Your close simply cited that the consensus was that "the individual meets GNG coverage even if they haven't acquired notability through WP:NPOL" utbdoes not elaborate on what was persuasively cited in establishing such a consensus. Could you elaborate on what means of achieving notability the consensus agreed on? If a consensus was reached that GNG was met, surely there was a solid means of general notability agreed about to reach such a consensus.
n SecretName101 ( talk) 17:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
You are setting the bar for articles on political candidates so far and above what is outlined in WP:GNG that I don't think most elected officials would meet it.and you dismissed sources that other editors stated establish that GNG had been met.
Hello! I think you have misunderstood my request. I nominated not only Maida of Aukh, but also Chakhig, Khour I, Khasi I, Khasi II, Surakat, Battle of Gebak-Ghala, Yanbek, Battle of Arm-Kurt as I mentioned at the beginning of the discussion. Best regards, WikiEditor1234567123 ( talk) 18:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Good afternoon ma'am. I wanted to ask if it possible to restore the category "anti-islam sentiment in Iran" in the future since there are legitimate cases and examples of such sentiment in the country. Firekong1 ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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no rush whatsoever and no answer needed, just leaving the note per your request. Star Mississippi 00:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I’m a Wikipedia contributor who has done work on several Wikipedia pages, such as the one for Emmanuel Daniel, founder of The Asian Banker, which was recently deleted in favour of a Nigerian footballer of the same name. I've been looking into how to get the page back up again (with the appropriate disambiguation pages, of course, for the second Emmanuel Daniel). I missed the notification in May pertaining to the discussion for deletion, to my regret, as I believe the entry has merit. Mr Daniel founded The Asian Banker in 1996, and the organisation has become a significant contributor to the financial services industry in APAC through journalism, research and events. As a journalist, Mr Daniel has interviewed significant figures in global finance and politics, including Mark Mobius, Barnie Frank and Chuck Prince, as well as prominent central bankers and former heads of state, most of whom have their own Wikipedia pages.
In the “ Articles for deletion/Emmanuel Daniel” project page, Mr Daniel is described as “non-notable” and “not much for sourcing” and “yet another influencer fluff piece". I believe these are unfair assessments. One comment, “I can’t find mentions of this individual” is puzzling, as a simple Google search will reveal a good online presence, most recently for his financial book The Great Transition, published on World Scientific press. You were so kind as to relist the discussion to "generate a more thorough and clearer consensus", I wish I'd joined in. Thank you very much for being fair-minded in light of the negativity. The main fault of the page is that it hasn't been maintained/updated. I guess these things happen.
I seek your advice about getting this page back on Wikipedia, and I believe there are two options: submit a request for un-deletion, or re-create the page and have it evaluated. Which course is more effective? I'd like to get the old page un-deleted, for its history, but it may not be the best course. I appreciate your thoughts, thanks. Citizenzen ( talk) 02:20, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, Greetings and thanks for the review of Priya article. As part of the Women in Red project, I have been creating pages for red links and also expanded articles for Indian woman medallists during Asian Games. I realised that All medallists at Asian Games pass notability criteria, as Asian Games is listed as a continental championship where top-8 are considered as notable as per the criteria in athletics and other games. Also of the five-member team, the same editor created pages for four others and they were reviewed and okayed. I also noticed that a lot of references and secondary, reliable sources are available, including from Manipur newspapers. So I am wondering, if the draft which exits can still be developed. Please advise... thanks and regards, david Davidindia ( talk) 12:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Wut? -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 21:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Reasonable verdict. Sent to AfD. To me it appears to be an org attempting to profiteer from the unpleasant conflict and which has fooled the creating editor. I had a 50:50 decision, draftify vs CSD. AfD is likely better than either. Time will tell. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:26, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi. I saw that you deleted the Name a Game article a couple of days ago.
There are definitely quite a few news sources on it:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/54130/end-of-an-era-for-name-a-game-dvd-service
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/the-name-a-game-dvd-service-is-wrapping-up-at-the-end-of-june-95905
https://www.footyalmanac.com.au/vale-name-a-game/
The service, though defunct, is an important historical aspect of cataloguing the game, and it has transitioned into a limited capacity into https://www.afl.com.au/matches/match-videos?comp=1
I think the page should be reinstated or put to a vote. Electricmaster ( talk) 02:49, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Diaspora (video game). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Mikesc86 ( talk) 10:02, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Głusza, Wałcz County. I just posted there with a comment noting I've started a deletion discussion on pl wiki and asked for more time to review arguments made there. That was two hours ago, now I was going to change my comment to weak keep, but you deleted this without addressing my comment. Would you mind going back and relisting this? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:16, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz. I was wondering why you added the category to this page? That category would usually be applied by a template, but the WikiProject has decided to stop using that class in their assessment scheme, so I am trying to empty the category — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 07:46, 18 October 2023 (UTC) Hello, MSGJ,
Hello Liz , hope you are well. I self requested this article for deletion even though it was successfully reviewed. I would like it to be undeleted so that I could continue working on it (improve it) as I found lots of references online. I could use WP:REFUND, but since I am the only author who created it and requested for deletion later, I thought of contacting you since you were the sysop who deleted it. However, if this is not reversible then I will understand. All the best. Thanks :) -- Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 18:33, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Category:14th-century Norwegian people by occupation has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason ( talk) 23:20, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
FYI, you gave a notice to this user on the 8th to which they failed to respond. You listed an account they may be coordinating with off-Wiki and was hoping you could share those insights at the SPI. Cheers! CNMall41 ( talk) 03:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Green Gully Reserve. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
Sorry Liz, but I feel strongly this still needs sorting out. Hope you understand, regards Govvy ( talk) 09:07, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
I refer to the message you placed on my talk page.
I answer to your "question", it ought to be obvious to you that I have no personal connection whatsoever to Jolly. I (and several other editors, including Dormskirk, PamD, TheBirdsShedTears, Das osmnezz and Atchom) reacted to two related indiscrimate mass draftifications of articles (including at least twelve obviously notable articles by Jolly that satisfy GNG, criteria 1 and 3 of ANYBIO, AUTHOR and POLITICIAN; and also a number of obviously notable articles by Atchom; and possibly articles by a few other editors). It is entirely usual for editors to oppose any indiscrimate mass draftification of obviously notable topics on the kind of scale that was performed.
I became aware of the draftification spree by Pilaz because I normally edit topics related to Who's Who, and the draftification spree by Pilaz was a campaign to delete articles that were originally referenced to Who's Who. I then became aware of the draftification spree by Smuckola when I looked at Jolly's talk page while I was investigating the mass draftification of obviously notable people who were Principal Private Secretary to the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in Who's Who by Pilaz. To cut a long story short, nine of the Smuckola draftifications that I found, and a further 17 pages that were pushed back into the mainspace by five other editors (namely Dormskirk, PamD, TheBirdsShedTears, Das osmnezz and Atchom) [5], were so obviously erroneous that it was obvious that the whole lot need to have a WP:BEFORE search done by someone other than Smuckola.
Please do not put a personal attack of that kind on my talk page ever again, as it is offensive. You might as well say something like "righteous deletionists have a holy right to go on indiscriminate deletion sprees of obviously notable articles, and any evil inclusionist who systematically opposes a particular deletion spree must be a sockpuppet or meatpuppet, because all inclusionists are bad faith trolls". Because that is how your comment actually comes across. (For the avoidance of doubt, I do not support the use of the labels "deletionist" and "inclusionist"). James500 ( talk) 22:11, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello
Liz, I see you have recently reverted my edit regarding CSD saying I should choose the options on Twinkle and not state my own reasons, if there's nothing I can find to explain my reason isn't that why there's a costume rationale option? I stand to be corrected and learn Thank you. dxneo (
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Greetings Liz,
Hope you are doing well. I think something sneaky is happening with reference to Akoto Ampaw. I have moved it to draft space due to notability issue. Then original creator again paste the content to main space. I later nominated it for quick deletion as A7. Another editor giving the false edit summary of clean up removed the quick deletion template twice. Requesting your attention here. Sorry for not providing diffs as it is not visible to non administrators. Maliner ( talk) 04:51, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Hey, the first and last time I started relisting some AfD discussions, you've notified me that I had done it too early. I've noticed that this AfD discussion has not been relisted for 17 days. I've already voted, but is it appropriate if I relist it now, since the one-week period has already passed, and this discussion is probably lost in the list of old discussions so that no one will see it? Aintabli ( talk) 23:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
I don't believe Randan should have been converted to a soft redirect to wikt when there are other articles that might be titled "Randan", and a disambiguation page at Randan (disambiguation). I have converted Randan to a disambiguation page with a wikt link, and converted Randan (disambiguation) to a WP:INTDAB link. I thought you'd like to know. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 09:14, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I noticed you reverted this creation of a redirect: [6] The same editor has redirected many standalone stabbing articles to List of mass stabbing incidents (2020–present). I see these as also being problematic, as there has been no discussion or consensus. Do you agree? Thanks, WWGB ( talk) 05:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, thank you for fulfilling my CSD G7 request for my old userpage User:SanemAyhan07. Could you please also delete the associated user talk page User talk:SanemAyhan07? 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 12:15, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
As one of the admins that processes G13s, you may be interested in efforts to fix the G13 category: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SDZeroBot 12. – Novem Linguae ( talk) 20:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, thanks for everything you do to look after Wikipedia. Hope you had a nice start to the week.
I saw you were the editor to recently close the discussion on the page for London International Awards (10/12). The page has been live on Wikipedia for over a decade, and it went through a relatively quick deletion process for a page that was live for so long. I scoured the internet for as many updated worthwhile sources I could find based on other editors' feedback, only to have the matter closed within a day of my numerous edits.
Are you able to provide any feedback on how I can best argue for its reinstatement? I read through the 'Why was the page I created deleted?' page and understand I am able to make an undeletion request to retrieve its text. I am not sure if a deletion review is the appropriate next step, or if it is better I first conduct further discussion with you. Please let me know if I can provide any other info.
Thank you in advance for your help. Chilled Bean ( talk) 00:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz. I guess you didn't realize it, but the template:Copyvio/core specifically asks users to create a temporary subpage using this format. Such pages should not be deleted or moved to draftspace. Thank you! — Diannaa ( talk) 12:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I recreated donvale christian college with new sources that were not present at previous deletion discussions. I don’t think a G4 was appropriate Jack4576 ( talk) 16:38, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, normally I do not have a problem but I do not understand how this can be a redirect after I responded to HighKing's analysis and was pending their response. You also said in the last relist that keep or no consensus was the most probable outcome, I do not see HighKing's analysis changing that. Is there a way to leave it open for a while longer for more discussion or close it as no consensus with an immediate renomination? - Indefensible ( talk) 03:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi! Query here not of your close, but of whether you recall an AfD recently which had a transclusion that needed to be enacted. Looking for it as a model for a solution, but can't find it. No worries if you can't either, I know you act on so many XfDs daily and thanks either way! Star Mississippi 00:15, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi I don't know why you removed my draft page Draft:Mesen (emulator) blazingly fast even that it's a draft, I wonder what makes it so promotional, I will remain silent since there is nothing I can do, whatever I write however I write somebody comes and stops me, and they spams me with a lot and a lot and a lot of pages to read and rules that makes me think that I am a criminal (I seriously started believing in this). But I think this is it, it's the end, I will never write again in wikipedia en. KaderRocket ( talk) 01:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
This category is no longer empty. Since 1 of the two editors who previously supported merger is no longer supporting merger, I think there is no consensus to remove it. So I am pretty sure adding to the category will not be seen as disruptive at this point. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 07:27, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, i replied to your message on my talk page, but apparently the ping didn't work. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 12:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Top of the day! Permit my indulgence on drawing your attention on the page Elliot Omose. It was place on AFD on the basis that some of the lines were not well sourced. The article was edited and more than 7 secondary sources which are very reliable was added. The page also meet the notability standard. However it was further deleted without the observation of these sources that are very independent. I am interested in reviewing the page ma'am, kindly look into this and restore so that i can properly edit it. Thank you. Randiajifo ( talk) 11:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz - Consensus among WikiProject Ice Hockey editors is that "Canadian expatriate hockey players in (foo)" categories are useless and should be removed if the player has moved on from whatever country the category is for. Please see the discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive82#Question_about_expatriate_players and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive81#Connor_McDavid. Regards, PK T(alk) 12:47, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, Liz, esteemed colleague! I'm afraid I've declined your WP:A7 at that page, as there is some vestigial claim of significance there and I don't think it quite qualifies as G11. I agree it shouldn't be part of the encyclopaedia, leaving it to you to choose how best to bring that about. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 08:27, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).
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local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to
note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.
Hi Liz, and thanks for all the good work you do at AFD. I mean that sincerely, I appreciate the care you exhibit and your willingness to close more difficult odiscussions.
I was surprised to see you close the discussion after your involvement here and here. I recognise that the numbers are clearly on the same side as your comments on my talk page, but I think myself and one other provided a robust and careful policy-based argument against deletion.
I hope you will support this request to re-open and let someone else uninvolved close it, please? CT55555( talk) 23:56, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, this article Jazz (Transformers) AFD has been relisted for 8 days now, so I think it's time to close it now. Davidgoodheart ( talk) 00:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
I've left you three pings but to no avail as yet. Could you please head over to that talk page and respond? Schwede 66 23:33, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
I see that you have deleted my draft of this article, in accordance with established Wikipedia guidelines, and I have no issue with you doing this. However I would like to please ask for your help. Unfortunately I kept coming up against what i though was extremely tight interpretation of Wikipedia policies and no matter what I did, it was never allowed to appear on Wikipedia. The main references were from BBC-provided programme schedules which is allied to, both slightly independent of, the BBC website, taken from a listings magazine which, at the time, was owned by the BBC. Other references were from recordings of the programme. These sources were seen as unacceptable and the article was draftified. Therefore, if you can give me any help with getting this article onto Wikipedia, it would be much appreciated. The article is about a shortish-lived 1990s radio programme on a station which was broadcast across all of the UK.
To my huge frustration I forgot to add the article to my Sandbox so I have requested that it be returned to draftspace so that I can copy and paste it into my sandbox.
Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide. Rillington ( talk) 00:11, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
I saw you deleted (moved to drafts) my article YΔ- and ΔY-transformations. The reason you give is "Userpage or subpage of a nonexistent user". But I am very much an existent user. I am new so there might be something I don't understand. I would appreciate if we could revert this step. MWinter4 ( talk) 13:04, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello... I don't know if you got any of my replies yet!?!? I would tag you but that offends people... Sorry to disturb you by the way... CPLANAS1985 🇵🇷 🇺🇸 (Male • T • C • IG • FB) 18:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The author of this article is running riot over Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikigrannies, indulging predominantly in personal attacks rather than making any kind of constructive contribution. I don't think engaging with them there will serve any useful purpose - however, they have picked up on your comment that the nomination was "silly" and I'd be quite interested to know why you thought it so. I obviously didn't think it was when I made it, but as I have long respected your opinion at AfD I'd be happy to put right and/or given the opportunity to discuss. Dorsetonian ( talk) 19:11, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
You deleted both draft and test page. Please help me and don't do it, is important to be on this page. Danavirgiliu ( talk) 08:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
You have put much information how to edit Wikipedia and the five pillars ... I am more of visual learner so ,would you please suggest me any videos that are live online if you know, for me to better understand Wikipedia's guidelines!? Worldviewfrom ( talk) 23:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi there Liz, if you have a minute, could you take a look at Gabe Amo along with the conversation on the talk page? The article was recently redirected as a result of a AfD and then almost immediately recreated on account of the circumstances surrounding the subject changing. Not sure what the correct/best/appropriate approach is in this situation. Thanks! - Skipple ☎ 04:36, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
I have new material and documentation that I recently found that I was planning to add this week. I believe that this additional information would make this proposed entry meet Wikipedia standards. — Carl n8vz ( talk) 13:49, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Liz. I believe you probably delete more
R2's than anyone, so I wonder if you have any thoughts on whether new-page reviewers should have suppressredirect
in order to avoid leaving cross-namespace redirects when draftifying (either bundled in new-page reviewer or through requesting page-mover specifically for draftifying). See Primefac's proposal
WP:VPR#Give NPR additional rights?
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This was/is at afd. I was protecting to stop the creator form move warring. -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 22:32, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Greetings Liz, I was wondering why the two categories I recently created were nominated for SD and I somehow did not find the reason why, I was hoping to get a reason so that I can learn from my mistakes as I thought the categories were to be like Category:AKA (rapper), what is preventing those from being like that instead be nominated for SD? shelovesneo ( talk) 02:39, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
hi Liz, I am new to wikipedia.I would want to address any concerns that were raised that is making it marked as to be deleted.The page provides valuable information to readers and has got many references . Jjmgwiki ( talk) 14:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, for Salaga Senior High School(SASS) you said [1] that WP:R3 doesn't apply to page move URLs but I had thought that redirect would probably be eligible under the "unless the moved page was also recently created" criteria since the article was only at that title from 00:44, 6 June 2023 to 04:35, 6 June 2023. Sounds that sound right, or is it because the redirect itself is reaching the end of that period, probably? Thanks! (Either way no worries just curious for any potential future nominations.) Skynxnex ( talk) 23:21, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
I think Surat antcomp copied and pasted it from user:Ir. Indah Megahwati, MP I think they are the same person. I think the latter wanted to rename and did not know how. It's all very confusing. -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 08:58, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Were you moshing to Angry Samoans back in the day...? ;)
Thanks for everything you do. Caro7200 ( talk) 14:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi @ Liz, thank you so much for taking the time to reach out regarding my first article - Massimo Vidoni AKA The Truffleman. I'd really appreciate your insight into the re-written article Draft:Massimo Vidoni (AKA The Truffleman)
Best,
Nanwikieditor01 ( talk) 18:46, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I have read that when there is an issue I should seek a recently active admin. Ive been offline for several days, but before, I removed a link to a pedophilia advocacy groups website, which got someone to start cussing me out. Can you check [2] and help me understand if this is acceptable? Underwoods Witch ( talk) 03:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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I indicated in my edit summary for the deletion of User:Fred Luciano that the user already had the same content in a sandbox of which he also has another. Now, that very-confused new user has a third copy at Draft:The Shrine of the Five Wounds of Our Lord Jesus Christ thanks to you, at least one of which you were supposed to delete. Chris Troutman ( talk) 12:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:55, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi i would like to request an undeletion of Article page @ Qing madi into draft for further edits. Recent information has been discovered on account of this page as regards chart entries and Nominations.
Thank You
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qing Madi George Nyiam ( talk) 15:05, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, I removed the speedy tag suggesting this one go to AfD due to possible notability. Then I saw you had tagged it; I would have contacted you first before doing this. There are multiple gushy refs but my reasoning was that they are refs nonetheless even if marginal.
Honestly, sometimes I do this sort of thing based on my interpretation of Wikipedia’s guidelines, then look again at what I untagged and wonder why. I see I just untagged an article that fails my own non-binding, invalid, unpopular, personal guideline for many popular culture articles. (In a nutshell: “Why do we want these?)
You do what’s best. — A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 03:29, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I see that you deleted Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/List of Bath City F.C. seasons/archive1 per G6 but left Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/List of Bath City F.C. managers/archive1 alone. They were virtually identical: why one and not the other? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:10, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I think there's been some confusion with the naming. Right now we're trying to separate the actual video game character lists from articles in a list-format per a discussion here. That's why it was moved to the Characters title, because there's some dev/reception going on there instead of a straightfoward list like the Smash Bros. or Animal Crossing ones. Kung Fu Man ( talk) 21:35, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I was surprised that you chose to delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Witchcraft (traditional) while commenting that the content appeared to be valid enough to continue work. I don't understand why the proper venue would be to push it into draft space; I understand the purpose of that is to be part of the AfC process to reduce creation of spam and other inappropriate content by anonymous users. I'm not sure what the benefit of requiring it to go through the clogged AfC process would be. My understanding of Wikipedia is mainspace is supposed to provide constant opportunity for revision and improvement. Regardless, I would very much like to resume providing editing the page to provide sourced material on the topic. Darker Dreams ( talk) 01:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello. A category was recently created to accomodate 100 Years (film). I think this category (and similar others) is of little encyclopedic use, given the utter uncertainty such a release going through (the copy could be damaged or destroyed, someone could steal the safe, the company could change their mind fifty years from now, etc.). While it could be argued that any category for an unreleased work is a crystal ball, something this far out is just too imprecise to serve as anything other than a curiosity. 2803:4600:1116:F44:88B1:E34E:B521:CBD6 ( talk) 04:08, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Please WP:REFUND the deleted Sudden Death Seven-ball to User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Sudden Death Seven-ball; a summarized version of it would make reasonable list content, if we do a list of cue-sports media (there are several prior deleted article that would also make good entries). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:15, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, Liz. How are you? I am unsatisfied for deletion of Ruslan Sabirly page and don’t agree with the result. Unfortunately, i could not participate in discussion, as I knew about it after page deletion. And also page was deleted with only 3 delete comment. Also it seems Azerbaijani Togrul R. has its own conflict with Ruslan Sabirly as wants delete his page everywhere. This is not first time he does it. Anyway Togrul R. says: “The fact that he is the first verified user in the region doesn't make them notable”. But this is not shown as a reason, this is just like title, because he got verified in 2014, when this was not available in Azerbaijan. He got it from Germany producers, while worked there on movie project. From another point why Togrul mention only this, but not Ruslan Sabirly’s career and activity?
He also mentioned that "Foreign tourism expert" isn't a notable role. But Ruslan Sabirly has played 9 leading roles on famous movies and TV series, which are mentioned in page.
Another Delete comment is: article's sourcing consists of promotional blurbs in clearly unreliable Azerbaijani websites, and passing mentions in slightly better but still probably unreliable Azerbaijani websites. That is not true, there are a lot of articles and interview about him and his career on Ministry of Culture of Azerbaijan Republic’s, governmental news agency AzerTag’s, and Azerbaijani leading news websites as 1news.az, trend.az, milli.az, day.az, azernews.az. these are alla reliable news portals and sources. If you Google his name Ruslan Sabirly (in English) and as Ruslan Sabirli (in Azerbaijani), you can see all this articles and Google Knowledge page. By the way i went through link in deletion discussion panel and it searched “Ruslan Sabirly” which make sense for search result and it brings not correct results.
So, Ruslan Sabirly is not the promo page. Also he was anchor on TV morning show. Also he was directed movie The Call. Also he is founder and producer of big festival which is held with support of government and other organizations for 5 year. This festival brings writers and cinematographers in together, helped them realize theirselves and make them popular to whole country. This project was a first time event in such theme. All mentioned above makes him encyclopedic person. And that is why i am kindly asking yo to undelete this page, please. Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Russolini1979 ( talk • contribs) 11:34, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, request undelete the above page under Draft - G13 so I could work on it. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 03:32, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello! Please restore deleted page Kristiāna Zacmane - Latvian women's national team player. I will provide more sources. Thank you Renārs Krīgers ( talk) 13:30, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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voorts ( talk/ contributions) 23:52, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Hello this article created by same person with another name and change title just 25days after deletion by discussion to bypass wikipedia rules : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitra_Rafee_Nia
The article deleted via discussion : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mitra_Rafee Moaijf92 ( talk) 09:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, I have edited Wikipedia because it's fun and interesting. I get the feeling I'm doing something useful for society.
That feeling has been fading away since the start of the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalki Avatar and Muhammad. I put in a lot of work with nothing to show for it but a lot of abuse (and your note).
This blatant abuse was tolerated by administrators at:
And now today at:
I try scrupulously to follow the rules and keep my cool even as I'm goaded to try to force a misstep on my part. It's hard work but I think I do it pretty well.
In these discussions, I got attacked. If the abuser lost momentum, other related abusers magically appeared. Finally, some admin maybe stepped in and maybe waved their arms at the abusers - but nothing really changed.
Meanwhile, I get told by regular editors or admins I should maybe have done something differently:
So the abusers get off and I go away chastened, unvalidated and a bit less enthusiastic about helping here.
I think some admin(s) need to seriously put their feet down.
Or am I just a slow learner in the wrong environment? -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 04:09, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
The above two places Tambaram and Avadi were considered suburban areas of Chennai City and are part of it's Metropolitan Area.Recently they were upgraded to Municipal Corporation status by merging adjoining suburbs and local bodies.In India,a Municipal Corporation is considered a City,not a suburb of another City.Please look into the same. Raghavan( Talk) 05:48, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz! I noticed you deleted The Frog Princess (film) under CSD G8. I’m just leaving this message to request its undeletion, as - prior to this edit by the sockpuppet - it seems that it was a valid redirect to The Princess and the Frog. (I’m hoping that’s the right diff I’ve linked there — I got it from the contribs page that I had open before the deletion took place.)
All the best (also I love your editnotice!), user:A smart kitten meow 15:47, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
I see you rejected this draft here. I removed some unsourced content today, and I'm not sure the article is ready for prime-time. Do you feel it should move back to draft? Thanks. Magnolia677 ( talk) 20:14, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
I need to talk to you a lot. The topic is about Wikipedia. You give your whatsapp phone number. Then I will talk through whatsapp. Srabanta Deb ( talk) 00:59, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Deauthorized. ( talk) 02:57, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Look, I understand that the individual D.I.C.E. Awards may not be defining but I have to point that there are category pages for the British Academy Game Awards winners at Category:BAFTA winners (video games). In my opinion, the D.I.C.E. Awards are more defining than the British Academy Game Awards. There are also categories for Category:Game Developers Choice Award winners, Category:Golden Joystick Award winners, and even Category:New York Game Award winners. There also category GOTY winner categories for the Game Developers Choice Awards and Golden Joystick Awards. At the very least I will be recreating the categories for D.I.C.E. Award winners and D.I.C.E. Award for Game of the Year winners. MR.RockGamer17 ( talk) 14:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Liz! I tagged the copyvio rewrite proposed at Talk:Mary Raine (football)/Temp for deletion as G6 as it could not be used to replace the copyvio article Mary Raine (football) because it was not copyvio–free (but was not bad enough to be eligible for deletion as G12). It's a mystery to me why you thought that moving an unrepaired copyvio to draft space was a good idea, but I've gone ahead and deleted it myself this time around. Just a note to remind you that pages with titles such as Talk:Foo/Temp and Draft talk:Bar/Temp are special copyvio rewrite pages. If they're usable they can be moved to replace the existing copyvio page; if they aren't, they should be deleted. I don't know what criterion other than G6 could apply in most such cases, so that's the criterion I use (it's also the criterion I use to delete copyvios that have been listed for over seven days at WP:CP without resolution). Regards, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:06, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
Thank you for your query, there is a simple explanation. I had an old draft page for Alex Matos, but I became aware that a page on main space for that football player exists, so my draft had become superfluous. So I deleted the info and used the template to create a page Jefry Valverde, another football player on my to-do list. I appreciate if that’s lazy, I hadn’t done it before and I will happily not do it again, turns out it doesn’t actually save that much time anyway (I’m just meant to be on holiday, and not doing things like that)
best wishes G Hildreth gazzard ( talk) 20:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Kia ora Liz,
I noticed that you recently deleted the above redirect, which was created following a page move of the article now at Charles Sound, stating that the redirect was "obviously an error". It's not actually an error, but rather the official name of the fiord and has been the article title multiple times in the past. I'm wondering whether it would be possible for you to undo the deletion? Ngā mihi, Turnagra ( talk) 09:34, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
about the deletion discussion in jeremy wood, where's the actual discussion? cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 11:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Why did delete Gopalji Radhabihari Ashram (Santdham) from Wikipedia? All information in this register was reliable and accurate. Why did you delete this edit anyway? Why are you suggesting and deleting all the edits I wrote? You are insulting me and deleting all the edits without showing respect to any of my edits. Again now Nimbarka Ashram, Sylhet and Kathiababa Ka Sthan,Vrindavan and started proposing to delete. You will also delete them. I regret to inform you that I will not be making new edits and entries on Wikipedia. Because you are deleting all my edits. stay well I hope to get the correct answer to my question. Feel free to let me know any feedback you have. Srabanta Deb ( talk) 13:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Modern_Muse. Sorry, but consensus schmonsensus. I doubt those people even looked. There aren't *any* reliable sources in the article, and given the UPE block of the original creator, the lack of any link to the proposed target, this just doesn't make any sense. If this had been created yesterday, it would have been a no-brainer G11. At least a relist might give a chance for a few more people to take a look and come to the only reasonable conclusion on this one. 35.139.154.158 ( talk) 17:40, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I removed your speedy deletion request for Category:Category-Class Celts articles, because it appears to be a project category for Wikipedia:WikiProject Celts ...no, I'd never heard of the project before either, despite editing Wales articles for 10 years :) Sionk ( talk) 13:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
I have read the article twice and didn't seem to find anything wrong with it, what was the reason for the deletion? And, if it was bad, why wasn't it rewritten instead of removed? FandomCereal ( talk) 15:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Yet again, I have asked Scope creep to leave me alone. I don't know what else can be done but I've had enough. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Knowing you often have words of wisdom for less experienced editors, and seeing that you have already posted some on the editor's talk page (below the item I am linking to), do you have anything you might suggest to them to allow them to remain enthusiastic, but to temper their knee jerk reactions, please?
The full link to the conversation is User talk:OlifanofmrTennant#About a draft you accepted 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hello there. Is this an abuse of the process, as I am sure it is? This article should have been automatically deleted long ago, right? — Smuckola (talk) 17:50, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi I noticed you deleted "613 Torah Ave" because you couldn't find sources other than online stores. This isn't true. Apparently you don't seem to know "Orthodox Judaism". These are albums that every single kid grew up on. There are numerous articles written on it. Why don't you do more research before deleting it. Or at least give someone a chance to defend the claim. Thanks. BangKettle ( talk) 21:05, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Unsourced article. Only found listings on online stores and trivial mentions in some books, lacks significant coverage or reviews to pass WP:MUSICAs an expired PROD, you can request its restoration at WP:RFU. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I tagged that page with WP:A3 because of the misspelled "Ussr", which means that it was technically in mainspace. However, I admit that a better approach would have been to simply move it to userspace and tag the resulting redirect with R2. Dsuke1998AEOS ( talk) 02:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, can you reopen the WP:Articles for deletion/Civilian casualties in the Second Intifada as there has been a late comment at WP:Requests for undeletion#Civilian casualties in the Second Intifada. Jay 💬 05:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up after the latest incident. Do you think you could go ahead and revdel the stuff from Kianni from the other day as well? It's more of the same. Box of wolves ( feed) 02:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi. This is definitely not a big deal, but I moved Wildwood Cemetery to Wildwood Cemetery (Winchester, Massachusetts) to make way for a dab page (thanks for moving that one, btw). Only problem is along the way I accidentally moved it to Wildwood Cemetery (Wincester, Massachusetts), a misspelling. I thought G7 would apply since I'm the one who created the misspelled redirect a few minutes earlier. It's only housekeeping, so we can just leave it as an R from misspelling, but just wanted to let you know my thinking. Station1 ( talk) 03:44, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Ahsan Khalil is Pakistani notable writer as you can check his google knowledge panel as well ([ [3]]). Kindly restore it, so can wirk on it and replace it resources to independent and reliable resources. Skt34 ( talk) 07:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Why would you do that? The whole point of removing backlinks is that the pages are not notable. G5 and some other speedy deletion is not followed by any notability discussion. Pelmeen10 ( talk) 09:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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who has once created this? Thanks in advance.-- U. M. Owen ( talk) 00:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Greetings. Did this AfD close correctly? It doesn't seem so. - The Gnome ( talk) 07:52, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Liz. There's a new editor, Akaspo, that has a history of suspiciously sockpuppet-esque activity. The articles Battle of Chumb (1965) and Rajasthan Front were recently deleted, but they have since been recreated by this WP:SPA. Also created have been Draft:Battle of Batapur and Draft:First Battle Of Hilli. Additional actiivties by this user have been to change articles relating to Pakistani wars by spreading pro-Pakistani propaganda (e.g. "changed it to pakistani victory"; "Pkiatsni [sic] Victory, the other person did not put any source"; "There is nothing that implies 18 Pakistani soldiers were killed"; "Pakistani military victory, Diplomatic stalemate", "changed the claims"). All of the drafts and articles they create are riddled with pro-Pakistan propaganda using poor, pro-Pakistan sources. I believe both of these articlespace articles should be re-deleted until they can be reinstated by a neutral editor, as they are so thoroughly riddled with propaganda that they're beyond salvaging.
Additionally, they have attempted to externally network with blocked, known-sockpuppet accounts such as Altay74 and Pr0pulsion 123, learning Pr0pulsion's Facebook account and going so far as to confirm that they added Altay74 on their Instagram account ("I added you"). (Incidentally, Pr0pulsion 123 has gone on to throw a tantrum over their ban, which is how I found this in the first place). It is abundantly clear, therefore, that this band of users will continue to sockpuppet, and thus I believe these articles should also be WP:SALTed for extended-confirmed protection under WP:CT/IPA.
Although their edits on existing articles have been reverted, I feel like these users are knowingly employing a Gish gallop-style exploitation of Wikipedia's ease of article creation, wherein it takes considerably more effort both to get an article deleted than it does to revert an edit and to even find the article in the first place.
This has all been done in the span of under two weeks and is very clearly an instance of Pakistani nationalism, WP:NOTHERE, and extraordinarily likely sockpuppetry being coordinated outside of Wikipedia. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 00:16, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing my muck-up at Template talk:John Cain Jr sidebar. Sorry: thought I knew what I was doing and got carried away. AukusRuckus ( talk) 16:22, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello!
Thank you for your time. It looks like you are the editor that reviewed an article I recently just tried to publish. On the Redirect to deleted page "User:Aidan Park") Tag: Twinkle ( thank). May I please get more clarification on what this means exactly so I can make the changes necessary and know what to do moving forward?
Thank you, have a great evening! Nscheuerman95 ( talk) 03:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
This draft isn't written in a neutral tone...). After you address it, you can click the button that say
Submit the draft for review!. After that, prepare to wait for a while; it may take a while for a reviewer to get to your draft. Hope that helped, Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 20:04, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of George Andrews Reserve. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Govvy ( talk) 19:26, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Randal Alexander McDonnell, 10th Earl of Antrim. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Pilaz ( talk) 13:36, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Why did you delete this article? A founding member of the IOC, he was an important and notable sports administrator internationally. Norden1990 ( talk) 19:22, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
I saw that you deleted the 2023-24 North Dakota State Bison men's basketball team page on September 26th, due to the reason of "Relying on a non-existent page". I was curious of the exact page that it relied on, as typically sports team pages will reference a couple different pages that will be created later on in the season due to the lack of relevance on those pages at the present moment. No harm, no foul of course, I just was curious why this page got deleted versus the other pages created for the 2023-24 NCAA Division I men's basketball season that do the same thing and didn't get deleted. I am requesting either an exact page that caused the deletion and/or the undeletion of the article or at least moving it to draft space so I able to remedy the reason for deletion.
Thanks, natethegreat4226 natethegreat4226 ( talk) 14:35, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Liz, you were pinged at User talk:Jayneelyn#Paid editing. Jay 💬 17:25, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
You recently restored the following page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada (2nd nomination), in addition to the Israeli casualty page, and the master second intifada page.
Revisions were commenced on all three pages, but an editor just swooped in and deleted the Palestinian Civilian casualties page while there still was a discussion going on as to the proper future to the page (this has now hobbled the master article, and other editors are now pushing again for the deletion of all three under the justification that one of the articles was already deleted).
Looking to have the page restored per the last undelete so revisions may continue. And if deletion is ultimately necessary, given that this is an ARBPIA topic, isn’t it in accordance with contentious topics guidelines that more discussion and consensus seeking is warranted before things as severe as deletion occurs? Mistamystery ( talk) 19:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi friend. Hope you're having a good weekend. Normally I'd restore a G13 with just a ping, but wanted to ask if I was missing anything here since it didn't seem stale. It's not enough to go to mainspace, but I think there may be enough sourcing. Any red flags I should know about? Thanks either way. Star Mississippi 01:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi @ Liz, To respond to your comment of " bludgeoning" in this discussion. I am not trying to persuade others to my point of view but to participate in the discussion. What I find challenging during an AfD is when an editor casts a KEEP vote claiming that "lots of supporting sources exist" without providing them, and then other editors (often from the same WP) start showing up to also vote KEEP per that editor’s “findings”. I must admit that I get frustrated by this, as I have seen it happen before and it can be a pretty effective way (when combined with votestacking, stealth canvassing..etc) to rig the system. Wafflesvarrg ( talk) 09:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
@ Liz Happen to come across Special:Contributions/Hussain5121472 seems has spammed some number and info in multiple articles, most still not reverted. Idk if a case of doxing or just spamming.
Approached you since you seem to be last active admin on ANI. Bookku ( talk) 10:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Calv. The nomination also included Route 4/Thorn and Roots, and that article is now also CSD A9 eligible. Would you be able to take care of that one as well? Many thanks! Dorsetonian ( talk) 16:55, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
I want to make an article about Raditya Adi Mars1117 ( talk) 02:56, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
the article for my band (wristmeetrazor) has been repeatedly edited to remove my legal name, as i am in the process of scrubbing in from the internet. someone has made it a point to replace my name and harass me about how i “shouldn’t be in a band” if i don’t want my name online. i’m trying to either gain admin access to the article, or have it completely removed, so that i can fully remove the sensitive info from the edit history. the article is also abandoned and not being kept up to date, and i would like to have full control over it myself to be able to run it properly Userelaine ( talk) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
sensitive infoand
is also abandoned and not being kept up to date. See our deletion policies to see if there are any legitimate reasons that fit your needs. While Liz may have some additional thoughts on the matter, you may be better off asking at the Teahouse or the Help Desk to receive a broader answer to whether or not your concerns merit removing the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
If you have accidentally posted anything that might lead to your being outed, ... it is important that you act promptly to have the edit(s) oversighted. Do not otherwise draw attention to the information.I now suggest Oversight as your next step; though the only outing of your connection to that name was called out by you. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:37, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I would like File:Catalan Girl wearing Estelada as Cape.jpeg to be deleted please! I was the person who uploaded the file, but now I would like it to be deleted please and thank you! 😅 — SnowieLuna1212 ( talk) 21:32, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Good morning, please can you help me to access or check my drafts I made yesterday. It was two drafts here are they Draft:Caroline A. Wanga and Draft:Nicolas M. Chaillan Wappa PZ ( talk) 21:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
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I suppose you receive a lot of these, but I wanted to show my appreciation for all that you do regarding deletion. After being active in speedy deletion for some months now, I can see the incredible amount of effort you put into this side of the project. Please accept a heartfelt thank you for your tireless work; I don't know where we would be without you. Schminnte ( talk • contribs) 17:45, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
It's taken long but I wish to revive now the article about
Minus one (music) which I orphaned back in 2022, for the dearth of effective (non-blog) citations. I would like to give it another try. May I respectfully request for its undeletion, if still possible? Help, please.
Truly yours,
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Hello, Liz! I noticed this FfD from August 2023. It should be noted this user has been blocked indefinitely on Commons for disruptive editing and changing images with no comments or reply after multiple times. I would suggest if they proceed with any future vandalism, an indef from the File namespace should be done. – The Grid ( talk) 15:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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To the administrators who've been deleting my many user pages as I clear out the chaff: I imagine its tedious work, and thank you for your patience and professionalism! I'm finally done, and further want to express my appreciation for the expediency all of you demonstrated. I wish you the best! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 16:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC) |
Liz, please reopen this discussion. It does not seem proper to hinge the fate of a decades-old article with dozens of editors on such a brief and low-participation outcome. BD2412 T 16:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, thanks for checking the deletion discussion. I think the main consensus was deletion of the article, as seen by the three deletion votes, one redirect vote, and two keep votes (one of whom was the original article creator and the other failed to provide arguments on how this article fulfilled WP:Notability). I think it will be reasonable to reconsider the no consensus tag, or at the very least, reopening the discussion. Makeandtoss ( talk) 19:35, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
My point wasn't about the editors ethnicities, my point is that there's likely off-wiki canvassing going on in that AFD. Any accusation of canvassing is obviously an aspersion, but it think it's something closer should assess. The cryptocurrency topic area is notiorous for UPE/COI promotional issues. Hemiauchenia ( talk) 05:20, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I wanted to let you know that this page ( India–Vanuatu relations) was seemingly recreated, after this AfD discussion resulted in a delete vote back in December 2021. I'm letting you know this because you re-deleted the page under CSD G4 back in June 2022. However, it's not "back" in its original form, but is a redirect to a NEW page. That page is India-Pacific Islands Relations, and almost exclusively focuses on India's relationship with Vanuatu. I can't see what the original India-Vanuatu page content entailed, but whether this is the same type of article, or different, I wasn't sure whether or not this would fall under the same umbrella as the last deletions. Anyway, thank you for your time! Utopes ( talk / cont) 06:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for taking the time to close the proposed deletion of Battle of Kelmendi; I'm not sure I understand your decision since by closing that AfD as “no consensus” we keep an article that has been twice nominated for deletion, is likely only supported by primary sources and as such is failing GNG and WP:EVENTCRITERIA guidelines. That last comment by @ JoelleJay was a request to see non primary sources in support of notability. The discussion was closed after that. According to your assessment: “This is not a comment on the article content, sources or page title which can be discussed on the article talk page” but how do you judge if sources contribute to GNG and WP:NOTABILITY without discussing them? It would have been worth extending the discussion a little more to finally find out. You did not answer my previous message and I suppose you are too busy but this whole process has been quite a disappointment. Have a good day. Wafflesvarrg ( talk) 09:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Can you please explain why you closed the AfD as delete? There was a clear alternative to deletion which I explained in the discussion. Can you please undo so I can redirect and keep the history? There's no reason why that can't be done. Deus et lex ( talk) 11:47, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Liz, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trimble County High School, the nominator has withdrawn the nomination. There are 5 keep votes (there was 1 merge, changed to keep) and no discussion in favor of deletion. Do the 7 days have to roll by before it can be closed? Can it be closed by anyone other than the nominator? Thanks! — Jacona ( talk) 17:32, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm posting this here because I don't know where I would post an edit request for a special page. User:Nosebagbear has very unfortunately passed away but they're still listed as a mentor which can cause some issues as the assigned mentees will not be able to have their questions answered. Can you use Special:ManageMentors to remove their mentorship? Thanks. FatalFit | ✉ | ✓ 02:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I do not understand why this /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Aquadoodle was delete instead of merge. As I noted, there are sources online such as https://www.proquest.com/docview/219290997/6E57753E1A144653PQ/11 and https://www.proquest.com/docview/330502121/1DC3FE7F5A264022PQ/15 to support the material. Can you please draftify the article so that I can merge the content? - Indefensible ( talk) 17:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Kind regards! Many thanks for following the AfD discussion of Arepera Socialista. I wanted to ask: given the minimal participation, wouldn't the outcome be closer to a soft delete instead of "no consensus", like other similar discussions about Venezuela? Best wishes and many thanks in advance. NoonIcarus ( talk) 19:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § RfC on the "Airlines and destinations" tables in airport articles. I saw that you participated in a
discussion on a similar topic.
Sunnya343 (
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18:35, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz,
The draft is obvious UPE with no proper sources and an npov-infested text that was composed by an SPA. I mean, look at this: [4], Special:Diff/1179211692 – which account created just four days ago is so good at editing Wikipedia? The editing pace also doesn't match someone who is new but gets good advice. Please have a second look. All best, -- Johannes ( Talk) ( Contribs) ( Articles) 21:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz -- I wonder if you would consider reopening this AfD for further comment and source analysis? I have found the deletion proposer to be rather indiscriminate in their deletion/redirect work; they do not seem to perform adequate searches, and disagree with what I believe to be consensus on fictional character notability. In the course of contesting their redirection of Horatio Caine, I came across multiple sources for Mac Taylor, suggestive -- in addition to those found during the AfD -- that the character might be notable. Thanks, Espresso Addict ( talk) 01:51, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Just giving you the head's up that, per request at WP:RFU, I have restored an article that you speedily deleted, and have nominated the same for deletion via AfD. BD2412 T 01:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
Thank you for inviting me to the TEA house. I joined, I think that will be so helpful! :-) Mwikiforce ( talk) 01:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Regarding this. Would you be so kind as to fix the nominator's mistake shown? They apparently reopened the closed discussion to renominate the article and then just removed the previous discussion thinking that fixed the error. Thanks. 4.37.252.50 ( talk) 19:47, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, yet another refund request for Draft:Makita AWS, found myself hunting for the information yet again, and realised it never got migrated to article space. — Sladen ( talk) 07:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, just stopping by to say thanks for adding your observations. That's a weird sock who has caused quite a disruption so its good when we can nip them in the bud quickly. S0091 ( talk) 17:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
...in a discussion I've started about administrators and notifications. I simply mentioned you as an example of an administrator who (to my knowledge uncontroversially) does not have them enabled, so there is nothing to worry about, but you may be interested in the discussion. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Good day dear @ Liz i had an issue today moving an article to draft space so i can work more on it having no idea how that works i just tried to do it the way i can the article has already but i felt it needed more work thats why i moved it to draft so i can work on it better but then i see that it was deleted by you kindly explain this is it Keithian (singer). with love and have a blissful day. Randomwookiemarley ( talk) 20:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Did you even look at this? Talk:Marshall_Islands_national_football_team. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 22:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Scotched English. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. CiphriusKane ( talk) 06:40, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz,
I see you moved Kang (Android) (disambiguation) back to Kang (Android) rather than speedily deleting it per G6. However, as stated in the reason provided for CSD, Kang (Android), the original page Kang (Android) (disambiguation) associated with, has been deleted and no other topic in Kang couls match the qualifier "Android". That's why I self-reverted the same move I made to hold the base name, and requested G6 deletion instead, which is quite a similar situation like Eastern (country subdivision) (disambiguation).
Thanks, NmWTfs85lXusaybq ( talk) 06:41, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Note:
Kang (Android) has been retargeted to
AOKP by
Curb Safe Charmer which finished the job.
NmWTfs85lXusaybq (
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11:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
G5 should not be applied to transcluded templates or populated categories unless they have been transcluded or populated entirely by the banned or blocked user; these edits need to be reverted before deletion.
Please can you revert all of the edits made by Teslacarowner then, as per
WP:DENY? It's much easier for an admin to mass revert these. All of these categories also violate
WP:SMALLCAT, which isn't surprising given that they're the sockpuppet of someone stopped from editing due to CIR. Keeping loads of crap categories created by a sockpuppet is not beneficial to the encyclopedia.
Joseph
2302 (
talk)
08:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Really?? Would you redirect Central Park to New York Yankees because they have trained there?? Why would you redirect a whole entire park to a football club? That makes no sense, can you please fix your redirect and point it too Keilor Downs, Victoria and it needs merging into that article too. WP:COMMONSENSE applies. Can you please fix this close, as from my point of view, it's a poor close. Govvy ( talk) 13:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Hey Liz! Could you undelete several of the WikiProject Adele quality templates deleted on 29 March 2022, like Category:High-importance Adele articles and Category:B-Class Adele articles? The project has recently become active again. This would be a big help.-- N Ø 14:37, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, would you be willing to userfy XMedia Recode after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/XMedia Recode. I understand consensus shifted on that, but I'm confident the article can be reworked to be less promotional, and to highlight the notability. I will not merely add the sources I already found and move it back to mainspace. — siro χ o 01:06, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
I think I might have discovered who one of the watchers of my user/talk page is. :)
Or maybe it was a chance crossing of paths. In either case, thank you for the assist regarding the near deletion of Outline of reptiles.
By the way, I'd like to run something by you, to see what you make of it...
I've been using an AI search engine/chatbot, but I don't have anybody to talk to about it. Everyone else in the household here are technophobes when it comes to AI.
It's not quite advanced enough to talk intelligently about itself, in the first person, in a satisfying way, otherwise, I would be having this conversation with it — though it is getting scarily close. It's writing quality varies, but fairly often it writes (erm, produces output) better than I do.
It's called perplexity.ai. It's free, and it doesn't require registration, which is why I use this one.
It's an app built on top of various 3rd-party server-powered APIs, though there are murmurs across the Web that the company is developing its own in order to escape dependence on other companies' programs and fee structures. As far as I can tell, its an integration of at least 4 AIs so far, and they don't appear to be generally aware of what each other is doing, which makes the thing come across as somewhat schizophrenic from time to time.
The 4 AIs that I know of are:
So, what can it do besides look up a simple search term?
Well, you can type at it conversationally, and it answers apparently intelligently, much of the time. It remembers the current thread quite a ways back, and so you can discuss or have it modify previous responses, or refer to aspects of those responses, and it will answer in context. For example, you can have it write an essay, or build a table, and then specify how you want it to change or expand it. Or, if you've just had it search for a movie, and you tell it to "summarize the plot", it will summarize that movie's plot and not the plot of some random novel, short story, or Shakespearean play.
When you ask it a question, it delves into the webpages returned by the search engine and formulates a response from those, and pulls the answer out for you. It can integrate what it finds into a single response, or it can report what each page's relevant answer is. This saves you the time it takes to skim the pages to find specific facts. It pulls them out very fast.
Because it answers from the web pages it has found, it bypasses most of the problems with "hallucinations" or making things up that other chatbots have. But there are fringe use cases that it chokes on, and spits out delusionary content. If you force it to make a list of like 100 wikipedia articles, some of them may not be real. If you ask about that in a later prompt, it might even confess.
If you ask it a question in different ways, it tends to find different material to work from, which can reveal more about a topic as you go along.
You can also provide it with your own input. Like an essay for it to edit, improve, stylize, transform, translate, or whatever. Though the size is limited.
It can produce output in a variety of formats, which is more of a function of GPT-3.5 than of perplexity.ai per se. When you start asking it about itself, sometimes it describes perplexity, and sometimes it talks about its own capabilities. It's easier to find out about what it can do by asking it about ChatGPT, which it has most of the functionality of, but for which there is far more coverage online than for perplexity.
You can specify style and format, and it will comply much of the time. It can write the output in English and who knows how many other languages. It can write output as articles, essays, profiles, book summaries, outlines, resumes, poems, song lyrics, bullet lists, tables, or software programs in something like 20 programming languages and CSS. It can provide output in html, xml, JSON, wiki source text, etc. You can specify style, such as "like a Pulitzer Prize-winning article from the New York Times", to "in the style of William Shakespeare". Or you can be less specific, like "in a journalistic style", or "in the style of an expert scientist on the subject".
It can summarize subjects, stories, news coverage, and specific web pages. It can write initial drafts of emails, invitations, birthday cards, Wikipedia talk posts, etc. It can answer as if it is a particular person, in the first person.
I think its limits are dependent in large part on the imagination of the user.
The one thing that annoys me the most about the thing is that it sure apologizes a lot. And, no matter how many times I ask or instruct it not to, it does anyways, even in the same response that it promises not to do it anymore. It's coming from a part of the program other than GPT-3.5, and that answer engine isn't aware that the apologies are being added to its responses. To avoid the apologies, don't criticize or point out errors. :) Good practice for being diplomatic.
A weird trait that the answer engine has is that it can be pretty literal, like an evil genie purposefully corrupting the wishes that it grants by twisting your words. So if you ask it "How can this Wikipedia article be improved?", it may answer by explaining how to go about improving it (like "visit WikiProject X") rather than recommend specific improvements. It makes you think more about how you phrase things.
Aside from its quirks, it is next generation compared to conventional search engines. And while I rely on it the most (and have been doing so since February), I still use duckduckgo, in combination with Snap Links, such as for scanning my favorite 50 news sites, etc. I switch back and forth a lot. Perplexity is really good at clarifying or expanding on specific points, and homing in on the epitome of things. So even when I'm not using it to produce something, I have it on standby on a separate screen to answer quick questions.
What does this have to do with Wikipedia?
It speeds up online research, and is one hell of a research tool. For example, you can ask it to make lists of citations, in MediaWiki wiki text format, for specific titles or URLs that you provide, like a list of news stories, and it will. It can summarize Wikipedia policy, and answer questions about Wikipedia and how to do things on Wikipedia.
I've experimented with it on building outlines, in Wikipedia outline style, but they're rudimentary at best, and it struggles with adding more than a few links at a time. But I haven't spent much time honing my prompts on this particular activity.
If you happen to be a user of it, or decide to try it out. Let me know what you think about it.
I hope I've piqued your curiosity, or that you at least found this post entertaining.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 09:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
I've never done a WP:CLOSECHALLENGE.
As you know, Wikipedia is built on consensus and not popular vote. In establishing consensus, users must back their assertions with a rationale.
While opposers of the opposition claimed in the deletion article that they saw GNG criteria being met, there was a lot of counter-discussion that what was being cited to assert GNG criteria being satisfied actually fell short/was unpersuasive. Others who asserted GNG criteria was met did not provide anything to back up their assertion.
Your close simply cited that the consensus was that "the individual meets GNG coverage even if they haven't acquired notability through WP:NPOL" utbdoes not elaborate on what was persuasively cited in establishing such a consensus. Could you elaborate on what means of achieving notability the consensus agreed on? If a consensus was reached that GNG was met, surely there was a solid means of general notability agreed about to reach such a consensus.
n SecretName101 ( talk) 17:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
You are setting the bar for articles on political candidates so far and above what is outlined in WP:GNG that I don't think most elected officials would meet it.and you dismissed sources that other editors stated establish that GNG had been met.
Hello! I think you have misunderstood my request. I nominated not only Maida of Aukh, but also Chakhig, Khour I, Khasi I, Khasi II, Surakat, Battle of Gebak-Ghala, Yanbek, Battle of Arm-Kurt as I mentioned at the beginning of the discussion. Best regards, WikiEditor1234567123 ( talk) 18:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Good afternoon ma'am. I wanted to ask if it possible to restore the category "anti-islam sentiment in Iran" in the future since there are legitimate cases and examples of such sentiment in the country. Firekong1 ( talk) 20:17, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. –
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no rush whatsoever and no answer needed, just leaving the note per your request. Star Mississippi 00:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I’m a Wikipedia contributor who has done work on several Wikipedia pages, such as the one for Emmanuel Daniel, founder of The Asian Banker, which was recently deleted in favour of a Nigerian footballer of the same name. I've been looking into how to get the page back up again (with the appropriate disambiguation pages, of course, for the second Emmanuel Daniel). I missed the notification in May pertaining to the discussion for deletion, to my regret, as I believe the entry has merit. Mr Daniel founded The Asian Banker in 1996, and the organisation has become a significant contributor to the financial services industry in APAC through journalism, research and events. As a journalist, Mr Daniel has interviewed significant figures in global finance and politics, including Mark Mobius, Barnie Frank and Chuck Prince, as well as prominent central bankers and former heads of state, most of whom have their own Wikipedia pages.
In the “ Articles for deletion/Emmanuel Daniel” project page, Mr Daniel is described as “non-notable” and “not much for sourcing” and “yet another influencer fluff piece". I believe these are unfair assessments. One comment, “I can’t find mentions of this individual” is puzzling, as a simple Google search will reveal a good online presence, most recently for his financial book The Great Transition, published on World Scientific press. You were so kind as to relist the discussion to "generate a more thorough and clearer consensus", I wish I'd joined in. Thank you very much for being fair-minded in light of the negativity. The main fault of the page is that it hasn't been maintained/updated. I guess these things happen.
I seek your advice about getting this page back on Wikipedia, and I believe there are two options: submit a request for un-deletion, or re-create the page and have it evaluated. Which course is more effective? I'd like to get the old page un-deleted, for its history, but it may not be the best course. I appreciate your thoughts, thanks. Citizenzen ( talk) 02:20, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, Greetings and thanks for the review of Priya article. As part of the Women in Red project, I have been creating pages for red links and also expanded articles for Indian woman medallists during Asian Games. I realised that All medallists at Asian Games pass notability criteria, as Asian Games is listed as a continental championship where top-8 are considered as notable as per the criteria in athletics and other games. Also of the five-member team, the same editor created pages for four others and they were reviewed and okayed. I also noticed that a lot of references and secondary, reliable sources are available, including from Manipur newspapers. So I am wondering, if the draft which exits can still be developed. Please advise... thanks and regards, david Davidindia ( talk) 12:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Wut? -- Deepfriedokra ( talk) 21:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Reasonable verdict. Sent to AfD. To me it appears to be an org attempting to profiteer from the unpleasant conflict and which has fooled the creating editor. I had a 50:50 decision, draftify vs CSD. AfD is likely better than either. Time will tell. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:26, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi. I saw that you deleted the Name a Game article a couple of days ago.
There are definitely quite a few news sources on it:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/54130/end-of-an-era-for-name-a-game-dvd-service
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/the-name-a-game-dvd-service-is-wrapping-up-at-the-end-of-june-95905
https://www.footyalmanac.com.au/vale-name-a-game/
The service, though defunct, is an important historical aspect of cataloguing the game, and it has transitioned into a limited capacity into https://www.afl.com.au/matches/match-videos?comp=1
I think the page should be reinstated or put to a vote. Electricmaster ( talk) 02:49, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Diaspora (video game). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Mikesc86 ( talk) 10:02, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Trizek_(WMF) Talk 23:16, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Głusza, Wałcz County. I just posted there with a comment noting I've started a deletion discussion on pl wiki and asked for more time to review arguments made there. That was two hours ago, now I was going to change my comment to weak keep, but you deleted this without addressing my comment. Would you mind going back and relisting this? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:16, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz. I was wondering why you added the category to this page? That category would usually be applied by a template, but the WikiProject has decided to stop using that class in their assessment scheme, so I am trying to empty the category — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 07:46, 18 October 2023 (UTC) Hello, MSGJ,
Hello Liz , hope you are well. I self requested this article for deletion even though it was successfully reviewed. I would like it to be undeleted so that I could continue working on it (improve it) as I found lots of references online. I could use WP:REFUND, but since I am the only author who created it and requested for deletion later, I thought of contacting you since you were the sysop who deleted it. However, if this is not reversible then I will understand. All the best. Thanks :) -- Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 18:33, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Category:14th-century Norwegian people by occupation has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason ( talk) 23:20, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
FYI, you gave a notice to this user on the 8th to which they failed to respond. You listed an account they may be coordinating with off-Wiki and was hoping you could share those insights at the SPI. Cheers! CNMall41 ( talk) 03:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Green Gully Reserve. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
Sorry Liz, but I feel strongly this still needs sorting out. Hope you understand, regards Govvy ( talk) 09:07, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
I refer to the message you placed on my talk page.
I answer to your "question", it ought to be obvious to you that I have no personal connection whatsoever to Jolly. I (and several other editors, including Dormskirk, PamD, TheBirdsShedTears, Das osmnezz and Atchom) reacted to two related indiscrimate mass draftifications of articles (including at least twelve obviously notable articles by Jolly that satisfy GNG, criteria 1 and 3 of ANYBIO, AUTHOR and POLITICIAN; and also a number of obviously notable articles by Atchom; and possibly articles by a few other editors). It is entirely usual for editors to oppose any indiscrimate mass draftification of obviously notable topics on the kind of scale that was performed.
I became aware of the draftification spree by Pilaz because I normally edit topics related to Who's Who, and the draftification spree by Pilaz was a campaign to delete articles that were originally referenced to Who's Who. I then became aware of the draftification spree by Smuckola when I looked at Jolly's talk page while I was investigating the mass draftification of obviously notable people who were Principal Private Secretary to the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in Who's Who by Pilaz. To cut a long story short, nine of the Smuckola draftifications that I found, and a further 17 pages that were pushed back into the mainspace by five other editors (namely Dormskirk, PamD, TheBirdsShedTears, Das osmnezz and Atchom) [5], were so obviously erroneous that it was obvious that the whole lot need to have a WP:BEFORE search done by someone other than Smuckola.
Please do not put a personal attack of that kind on my talk page ever again, as it is offensive. You might as well say something like "righteous deletionists have a holy right to go on indiscriminate deletion sprees of obviously notable articles, and any evil inclusionist who systematically opposes a particular deletion spree must be a sockpuppet or meatpuppet, because all inclusionists are bad faith trolls". Because that is how your comment actually comes across. (For the avoidance of doubt, I do not support the use of the labels "deletionist" and "inclusionist"). James500 ( talk) 22:11, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello
Liz, I see you have recently reverted my edit regarding CSD saying I should choose the options on Twinkle and not state my own reasons, if there's nothing I can find to explain my reason isn't that why there's a costume rationale option? I stand to be corrected and learn Thank you. dxneo (
talk)
02:42, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Greetings Liz,
Hope you are doing well. I think something sneaky is happening with reference to Akoto Ampaw. I have moved it to draft space due to notability issue. Then original creator again paste the content to main space. I later nominated it for quick deletion as A7. Another editor giving the false edit summary of clean up removed the quick deletion template twice. Requesting your attention here. Sorry for not providing diffs as it is not visible to non administrators. Maliner ( talk) 04:51, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Hey, the first and last time I started relisting some AfD discussions, you've notified me that I had done it too early. I've noticed that this AfD discussion has not been relisted for 17 days. I've already voted, but is it appropriate if I relist it now, since the one-week period has already passed, and this discussion is probably lost in the list of old discussions so that no one will see it? Aintabli ( talk) 23:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
I don't believe Randan should have been converted to a soft redirect to wikt when there are other articles that might be titled "Randan", and a disambiguation page at Randan (disambiguation). I have converted Randan to a disambiguation page with a wikt link, and converted Randan (disambiguation) to a WP:INTDAB link. I thought you'd like to know. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 09:14, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I noticed you reverted this creation of a redirect: [6] The same editor has redirected many standalone stabbing articles to List of mass stabbing incidents (2020–present). I see these as also being problematic, as there has been no discussion or consensus. Do you agree? Thanks, WWGB ( talk) 05:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, thank you for fulfilling my CSD G7 request for my old userpage User:SanemAyhan07. Could you please also delete the associated user talk page User talk:SanemAyhan07? 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 12:15, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
As one of the admins that processes G13s, you may be interested in efforts to fix the G13 category: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SDZeroBot 12. – Novem Linguae ( talk) 20:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, thanks for everything you do to look after Wikipedia. Hope you had a nice start to the week.
I saw you were the editor to recently close the discussion on the page for London International Awards (10/12). The page has been live on Wikipedia for over a decade, and it went through a relatively quick deletion process for a page that was live for so long. I scoured the internet for as many updated worthwhile sources I could find based on other editors' feedback, only to have the matter closed within a day of my numerous edits.
Are you able to provide any feedback on how I can best argue for its reinstatement? I read through the 'Why was the page I created deleted?' page and understand I am able to make an undeletion request to retrieve its text. I am not sure if a deletion review is the appropriate next step, or if it is better I first conduct further discussion with you. Please let me know if I can provide any other info.
Thank you in advance for your help. Chilled Bean ( talk) 00:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz. I guess you didn't realize it, but the template:Copyvio/core specifically asks users to create a temporary subpage using this format. Such pages should not be deleted or moved to draftspace. Thank you! — Diannaa ( talk) 12:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, I recreated donvale christian college with new sources that were not present at previous deletion discussions. I don’t think a G4 was appropriate Jack4576 ( talk) 16:38, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz, normally I do not have a problem but I do not understand how this can be a redirect after I responded to HighKing's analysis and was pending their response. You also said in the last relist that keep or no consensus was the most probable outcome, I do not see HighKing's analysis changing that. Is there a way to leave it open for a while longer for more discussion or close it as no consensus with an immediate renomination? - Indefensible ( talk) 03:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi! Query here not of your close, but of whether you recall an AfD recently which had a transclusion that needed to be enacted. Looking for it as a model for a solution, but can't find it. No worries if you can't either, I know you act on so many XfDs daily and thanks either way! Star Mississippi 00:15, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi I don't know why you removed my draft page Draft:Mesen (emulator) blazingly fast even that it's a draft, I wonder what makes it so promotional, I will remain silent since there is nothing I can do, whatever I write however I write somebody comes and stops me, and they spams me with a lot and a lot and a lot of pages to read and rules that makes me think that I am a criminal (I seriously started believing in this). But I think this is it, it's the end, I will never write again in wikipedia en. KaderRocket ( talk) 01:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
This category is no longer empty. Since 1 of the two editors who previously supported merger is no longer supporting merger, I think there is no consensus to remove it. So I am pretty sure adding to the category will not be seen as disruptive at this point. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 07:27, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Liz, i replied to your message on my talk page, but apparently the ping didn't work. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 12:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Top of the day! Permit my indulgence on drawing your attention on the page Elliot Omose. It was place on AFD on the basis that some of the lines were not well sourced. The article was edited and more than 7 secondary sources which are very reliable was added. The page also meet the notability standard. However it was further deleted without the observation of these sources that are very independent. I am interested in reviewing the page ma'am, kindly look into this and restore so that i can properly edit it. Thank you. Randiajifo ( talk) 11:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Liz - Consensus among WikiProject Ice Hockey editors is that "Canadian expatriate hockey players in (foo)" categories are useless and should be removed if the player has moved on from whatever country the category is for. Please see the discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive82#Question_about_expatriate_players and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive81#Connor_McDavid. Regards, PK T(alk) 12:47, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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