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Well done. Any change you could get an article done about the first album Promosexual also? It generally got better reviews than The Lime Green Album did and was considered succesful within the milieu that it circulated (as an underground album.)
Also I see to recall another Nancy Boy album circa 2004 with Donovan on the cover in a straight jacket. What was this, and any chances of an article on that one?
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Thank you also. All the refs are invaluable in saving the article from being AfD'ed due to lack of notability. Hopefully the same can be done for other Morse Band albums—they've always been sparse on refs. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 22:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi Caro7200. I feel like the "jangle pop" genre attribution for Down in the Shacks Where the Satellite Dishes Grow might be a stretch, as WP:EXPLICITGENRE notes that the genre has to be clearly stated in direct language via a reliable source in order to be included. To that end, the "jangly guitar pop" and "guitar jangle" descriptors in reviews wouldn't be the same thing as a source overtly stating that the album is " jangle pop," I'd think. If it will help, I can pitch this to WT:ALBUMS and see what others think.— The Keymaster ( talk) 21:06, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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What's with you removing the word "then" in the sentence about Ronald Reagan? He was president from 1981 to 1989 and has been dead since 2004. How is including the word "then" in that sentence unnecessary? 174.243.145.142 ( talk) 23:52, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hey @ Caro7200! Looking at your talk page I was surprised to see you are a very active editor (all these bot messages don't make it look so)! I'm reading out because I'm currently working on articles relating to Billy Pilgrim and I'm in need of some specific sources relating to their albums: Billy Pilgrim (the self-titled one) and Bloom. I found it impossible to find sources relating to these works since they're a 90s band, and all of my searches yield only sources about Slaughterhouse Five and Harold Bloom. I have to be doing something wrong
You found a lot of sources for Bloom when you created this article last year. Where can I find more of these? What keywords do I have to use to find them? Stuff like that. I just need to find that starting point. I'm especially looking for the reviews from Rolling Stone as I know 100% they exist (they gave Bloom a 4/5), but I just don't know where to find this information! Panini! • 🥪 00:16, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you for the work you've been doing. Sorry for undoing your good faith edit. The reason I standardize as "November the following year" is because usually the month is incorrect in these releases, and when I confirm that I try to correct it easily. In the case of American Garage, there are no citable sources that can confirm November as the release date; AllMusic is the most reliable one, and they have November 1 (which is definitely wrong), and "side bar" info can be edited by users.
Sometimes the months can be confirmed on the ecm website, but currently in lists the reissue date. I couldn't find any older versions on the wayback machine either. TlonicChronic ( talk) 00:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for your suggestion that we discuss the recent edits. On Wikipedia:Blogs as sources, it states: "Is the article you're sourcing via a blog of a non-biographical nature (i.e., about computer science? Cooking? History about deceased individuals?) from a website that is known in the relevant subject circles as a source or authority? If the specific author of the specific blog post an expert or authority? In either case, the blog post may be fine to use." Given the fact that the site's been around so long, has a good reputation, and has so many writers, a number of whom publish reviews elsewhere, I thought the review would be ok. What are your thoughts? Thanks for your time and work. Regards, Helen Puffer Thwait ( talk) 16:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Can you point me to the discussion about this and if it was definitively agreed upon? DepressedPer ( talk) 20:20, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Hope you and yours are having a wonderful day! J04n( talk page) 18:06, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
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I am so impressed by your frequent, well written, and well sourced pages on albums. Your choice of notable albums that have been overlooked by other editors is noteworthy. Wikipedia is better because of you. J04n( talk page) 15:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC) |
Hi, if you're looking for a page to beef up, please consider Here They Come!, thanks J04n( talk page) 21:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi again,
I noticed your "unreliable source" tag on the Cecil Taylor Unit page, and was wondering what your thoughts were. Phil Freeman is a widely-published writer ( https://philipdfreeman.com/articles/), has written three books on music ( https://philipdfreeman.com/books), and seems to be pretty well-known in the jazz / free jazz field. Some issues of Burning Ambulance are also available in magazine form. Just curious as to why you found it unreliable.
Thank you - I hope you're doing well.
Helen Puffer Thwait ( talk) 19:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Greetings. Where does it say in MOS:ALBUM to omit non-notable executive producers? He's not listed as management or special thanks. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 13:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for making Wikipedia a better place. With the creation of properly written, well cited articles, I have decided to give you this award that you rightfully deserve! Alon Alush ( talk) 15:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Well done. Any change you could get an article done about the first album Promosexual also? It generally got better reviews than The Lime Green Album did and was considered succesful within the milieu that it circulated (as an underground album.)
Also I see to recall another Nancy Boy album circa 2004 with Donovan on the cover in a straight jacket. What was this, and any chances of an article on that one?
Romomusicfan (
talk) 14:40, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Thank you also. All the refs are invaluable in saving the article from being AfD'ed due to lack of notability. Hopefully the same can be done for other Morse Band albums—they've always been sparse on refs. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 22:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi Caro7200. I feel like the "jangle pop" genre attribution for Down in the Shacks Where the Satellite Dishes Grow might be a stretch, as WP:EXPLICITGENRE notes that the genre has to be clearly stated in direct language via a reliable source in order to be included. To that end, the "jangly guitar pop" and "guitar jangle" descriptors in reviews wouldn't be the same thing as a source overtly stating that the album is " jangle pop," I'd think. If it will help, I can pitch this to WT:ALBUMS and see what others think.— The Keymaster ( talk) 21:06, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello Caro7200!
Thank you for your consideration. We hope to see you around!
Sent by Zippybonzo using MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 08:45, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
What's with you removing the word "then" in the sentence about Ronald Reagan? He was president from 1981 to 1989 and has been dead since 2004. How is including the word "then" in that sentence unnecessary? 174.243.145.142 ( talk) 23:52, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hey @ Caro7200! Looking at your talk page I was surprised to see you are a very active editor (all these bot messages don't make it look so)! I'm reading out because I'm currently working on articles relating to Billy Pilgrim and I'm in need of some specific sources relating to their albums: Billy Pilgrim (the self-titled one) and Bloom. I found it impossible to find sources relating to these works since they're a 90s band, and all of my searches yield only sources about Slaughterhouse Five and Harold Bloom. I have to be doing something wrong
You found a lot of sources for Bloom when you created this article last year. Where can I find more of these? What keywords do I have to use to find them? Stuff like that. I just need to find that starting point. I'm especially looking for the reviews from Rolling Stone as I know 100% they exist (they gave Bloom a 4/5), but I just don't know where to find this information! Panini! • 🥪 00:16, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you for the work you've been doing. Sorry for undoing your good faith edit. The reason I standardize as "November the following year" is because usually the month is incorrect in these releases, and when I confirm that I try to correct it easily. In the case of American Garage, there are no citable sources that can confirm November as the release date; AllMusic is the most reliable one, and they have November 1 (which is definitely wrong), and "side bar" info can be edited by users.
Sometimes the months can be confirmed on the ecm website, but currently in lists the reissue date. I couldn't find any older versions on the wayback machine either. TlonicChronic ( talk) 00:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for your suggestion that we discuss the recent edits. On Wikipedia:Blogs as sources, it states: "Is the article you're sourcing via a blog of a non-biographical nature (i.e., about computer science? Cooking? History about deceased individuals?) from a website that is known in the relevant subject circles as a source or authority? If the specific author of the specific blog post an expert or authority? In either case, the blog post may be fine to use." Given the fact that the site's been around so long, has a good reputation, and has so many writers, a number of whom publish reviews elsewhere, I thought the review would be ok. What are your thoughts? Thanks for your time and work. Regards, Helen Puffer Thwait ( talk) 16:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Can you point me to the discussion about this and if it was definitively agreed upon? DepressedPer ( talk) 20:20, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Hope you and yours are having a wonderful day! J04n( talk page) 18:06, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
The WikiProject Albums Barnstar | ||
I am so impressed by your frequent, well written, and well sourced pages on albums. Your choice of notable albums that have been overlooked by other editors is noteworthy. Wikipedia is better because of you. J04n( talk page) 15:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC) |
Hi, if you're looking for a page to beef up, please consider Here They Come!, thanks J04n( talk page) 21:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi again,
I noticed your "unreliable source" tag on the Cecil Taylor Unit page, and was wondering what your thoughts were. Phil Freeman is a widely-published writer ( https://philipdfreeman.com/articles/), has written three books on music ( https://philipdfreeman.com/books), and seems to be pretty well-known in the jazz / free jazz field. Some issues of Burning Ambulance are also available in magazine form. Just curious as to why you found it unreliable.
Thank you - I hope you're doing well.
Helen Puffer Thwait ( talk) 19:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Greetings. Where does it say in MOS:ALBUM to omit non-notable executive producers? He's not listed as management or special thanks. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 13:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | ||
Thanks for making Wikipedia a better place. With the creation of properly written, well cited articles, I have decided to give you this award that you rightfully deserve! Alon Alush ( talk) 15:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |