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Hey, the banned user Qwerck recently reached out to me as I know him on another forum... hm, not exactly to ask for help, more like to vent a bit, as he was disappointed that all of his contributions were removed, even ones that he thought improved things... anyway, I looked at the edit histories to try to understand this mess a little, saw that (at first glance) this outcome seems to have been kinda his own fault for not paying much attention to Wikipedia's rules and ignoring warnings, but I asked him if there was anything in particular that he wanted me to help try and save.

He mentioned Category:Merry Littlemen (and the former Merry Littlemen article), The Golden Ball (novel) and Ai and Ky in the Realm of the Invisible Numbers.

Regarding the latter two, I really don't know anything about them at all, but I wonder if it would be possible to request a proper (rather than speedy) deletion discussion, as at least at first glance, they seem like they could be legitimate articles that could be improved, or proper sources found.

Regarding the first, though, I'd like to request un-deletion with the understanding that I'd try to improve it so that there are no issues. There was indeed a real Soviet series with some animated series and book, and has an article ( ru:Весёлые человечки) in the Russian Wikipedia that could be used as a basis. The article before it was deleted could indeed have used a lot of improvement and the English name should probably be "Merry Little Men", but it seems like it wouldn't be too hard.

Thanks. Esn ( talk) 06:56, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi @ Esn! Firstly I should clarify that I’m not an administrator, and so won’t be able to help with the undeletion request - I’ll stick {{ admin help}} above your message in a second so that you can receive a response on that front if nothing else.

I should also clarify that I have no previous knowledge of User:Qwerck, and so (if it helps, though I appreciate it may well not) this was in no way intended a personal act towards them. My involvement in this started when I saw Bbb23’s comment on AN/I here. As Qwerck had been blocked as a suspected sockpuppet of a banned user ( User:Unserefahne), any edits they made on that account were in violation of (and evading) a ban. Per WP:BANREVERT, any contributions made while evading a ban are liable to be undone by any user - the reason it was me is because I saw the comment on AN/I, and had nothing better to do with my time, so decided to do the reverting myself.

(To responding admin: as well as Esn’s undeletion request, if there’s anything worth saying that I’ve missed out or unintentionally misrepresented in this response, I’d appreciate being filled in on that as well! Many thanks in advance - and sorry! )

Esn: Let me know if you have any questions about anything I’ve said, if you think I’ve misunderstood anything you’ve said, or if I’ve missed anything.

All the best, ^user:A smart kitten _meow 07:28, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

No misunderstandings, and thanks for the prompt response! To be honest, it's been a while since I was really a prolific editor here, and I'm rusty on some of the procedures, so I appreciate the help. I don't have the time to devote too much attention to this matter either, but I'd like to fix a few of the more obvious things that could be fixed (that is, that I would be able to find proper sources for).

Also, do you know if there is a way to see the titles of articles created by a certain user on Wikipedia that were deleted? Esn ( talk) 07:57, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

I'd also like to add the request for an undeletion of Vovka and Winter in Faraway Tsardom, due to the reasons given here. Frankly, the sources already included in the article should have been enough to establish notability (although it's understandable that this was overlooked, as it seems that none were English publications). Esn ( talk) 09:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Esn: I will try to answer some of the points you have raised.

1. First, an easy one. If you go to https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org you can see a list of pages created by a particular editor. There are several options, such as to show deleted pages or non-deleted ones or both.
2. "The sources already included in the article should have been enough to establish notability (although it's understandable that this was overlooked...)" is missing the point, because the deletion had nothing whatever to do with whether the subject was notable or not.
3. Unfortunately there are people who, having been blocked from editing because of past problems, persistently try to evade the effect of the block by various methods, the commonest bring just continually creating new accounts to carry on. For these people, just blocking new accounts as they come up is ineffective, as each time they just create another account. One of the things we can do and which stand some chance of success is to let them find that their attempts to evade blocks just don't work, because anything they do while block-evading just gets deleted or reverted. It doesn't miraculously work immediately, but if it keeps happening, in a significant proportion of cases eventually the editor gets the message. Sometimes this has the unfortunate effect of losing some reasonable material, but in the long run the policy gains much more than it loses.
4. I have checked all the references that this person put in the article Merry Littlemen. None of them even begins to show notability by English Wikipedia standards. (The article was also very poorly written, with glaring errors in English.)
5. Wikipedia policy is that a blocked editor may not get another editor to help them evade the effect of a block, and any editor who helps them to do so may be subject to sanctions.
6. The way for a blocked editor to return to editing, without seeing all their work reverted, is to request an unblock, and make it clear that they are willing in future to abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, not to try to evade the block, whether by creating sockpuppet accounts, by soliciting help in evading the block from other editors, or by any other means.

There is more that I could say, but I think that covers the main points. However, please feel welcome to ask me if anything I have said needs clarification. JBW ( talk) 17:38, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Thanks, JBW. A few points/questions:

1. My help wasn't solicited, I offered it without being asked, and only for the content which I felt qualified enough to contribute to myself.

2. "Wikipedia policy is that a blocked editor may not get another editor to help them evade the effect of a block, and any editor who helps them to do so may be subject to sanctions." - Does this policy mean that any article that is first created by a banned Wikipedia user and then deleted as part of the sanctions against them can never be recreated again unless the banned user "requests an unblock, and makes it clear that they are willing in future to abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines"? If there is indeed such a policy, it seems kind of easy to abuse... get yourself banned, then be the first to create articles about news items, thereby preventing Wikipedia from ever adding them.

A smart kitten mentioned here that other editors may, if they wish, take "ownership of the contributions themselves", but wasn't very familiar with the rules there. Could I do something like that? Maybe I could get a source of the original deleted edits, copy it to userspace, and improve it there until it's good enough to add back in?

I only want to salvage some content. Regarding Merry Littlemen, I was talking of the Russian Wikipedia article, not the English one, which I acknowledge was substandard. It's a series of books and films by notable authors/directors that was pretty widely known post-WW2. It would seem to be that WP:NOTTEMPORARY and WP:GNG should apply, particularly the part that says "Sources do not have to be available online or written in English."

Esn ( talk) 19:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

There is nothing to stop another editor from independently creating a completely new article on a subject for which one has been deleted as having been created by a block-evading editor. JBW ( talk) 19:53, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Thanks... is there a way to get the wikitext from before it was deleted, to make the job a bit faster? (I had a look at Qwerck's recently-deleted articles and frankly there are a number there that I know have corresponding well-cited articles on the Russian Wikipedia). *sigh*... well, if there isn't a way to easily get the wikitext, I guess I could use the existing Russian Wikipedia articles combined with archive.org's Wayback Machine, though that process is kinda tedious and long... Esn ( talk) 19:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Please note what I said above: "There is nothing to stop another editor from independently creating a completely new article on a subject for which one has been deleted as having been created by a block-evading editor." Trying to restore the deleted article, or something closely derived from it, is a very different matter. If the blocked editor sees that someone has substantially restored what they did, or something dertived from it, then that completely underminse the purpose of the deletion. Also, since you have openly stated that what you are doing follows from an offer to help the blocked editor to "save" material that they had created, you should read the policy on meatpuppetry, which covers this kind of editing on behalf of another editor. To put it absolutely bluntly, if you take any action which appears to be aimed at helping a blocked editor to fully or partially remove the effect of the block then you are likely to be blocked from editing too. JBW ( talk) 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

I've read WP:MEAT and I see that the definition seems to be about 1) "new editors" as well as 2) "bringing like-minded editors into the dispute" - I don't think that applies to me, as I am not like-minded on a whole range of issues with Qwerck and have no intention of entering into any discussions regarding the validity of the user ban (also... I have a 17-year almost unblemished history on this site). In any case, I see a bunch of unsourced opinions in those deleted articles that I would not try to reproduce in any new versions I made. However, I would obviously try to reproduce things like film templates pretty closely to how they looked in the deleted article, because there's no way of getting around that... plot summaries may be pretty close as well (aside from any POV language in them).

Please let me know whether that seems good-faith enough.

If you're unsure, like I said, I could try creating the articles in user-space first then ask for input before they go into mainspace. Esn ( talk) 21:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Also, frankly, that very section about meatpuppetry also says that it may be seen as derogatory and should be used with care, which I'm not sure it was here... the only real connection I have with Qwerck is that some of the topics we're interested in are the same (we're both interested in Russian/Soviet animation); that is why I was disappointed to see that some of the articles he made got deleted and am offering to create them again but without the issues they had before. Whether that counts as a service to him personally or to Wikipedia as a project, and which one takes precedence here, is up to others to decide, I guess. For what it's worth, he sent me a message today to not waste my time with this. Esn ( talk) 21:28, 18 September 2023 (UTC) reply

I have thought long and carefully about your email, and I have also read your message on the editor's talk page. I do see what you mean about the editor possibly basing their edits on genuine dissatisfaction with the way the school operates, but even if that is so, I see the particular way of expressing their concerns as vandalism. Note that, for example, they did not replace "is a mixed sex comprehensive secondary school" with something like "is a queerphobic mixed sex comprehensive secondary school" or "is a mixed sex comprehensive secondary school which is run in a queerphobic way", which could have been a sincere attempt to express their concerns; they replaced it with "is a mixed sex queerphobic secondary school", as though a "queerphobic secondary school" were a category of school, on a par with a comprehensive secondary school. As for "Extremist views are praised with flags illegaly portraying societaly political views", I'm not at all sure exactly what that is intended to mean, but I think it extremely unlikely that it is a reasonable description of the running of an English comprehensive school, and if it were then I think it highly improbable that my searches for reports concerning the praising of "extremist" views would have failed to find anything. However, I shall ask a couple of other administrators to give opinions on the block. JBW ( talk) 18:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC) reply

I have asked for comments from two administrators. Neither of them has responded yet, but I have had one unsolicited comment about the block from the administrator Ferret, who was not one of those I asked. Their comment was "These are purely disruptive edits that I would see as vandalism, regardless of how the editor may have felt they were justified, and blocks do not require 4 strikes and you're out. Good block. The editor can always appeal and explain themselves." JBW ( talk) 19:35, 19 September 2023 (UTC) reply

@ JBW: Fair enough. If two administrators (who are much more experienced than mysef) concur on this then I’m more than happy to defer to your judgements. Thank you for taking my email seriously and responsing - and I’m sorry for wasting yours and others’ time for what now seems like such a clear cut case. ^user:A smart kitten _meow 19:48, 19 September 2023 (UTC) reply

OK. Thanks for answering. However, I have now received a response to my request from Deepfriedokra, and although you have indicated that you don't need any further opinion, I may as well let you know about it. Deepfriedokra not only concurs that the block was justified, but actually goes further than that, by expressing the opinion that the edits could be revision deleted as violations of the policy on biographies of living persons. Well, I suppose they could, as there are unsubstantiated accusations, including accusations of illegal activity, against living persons, though personally I regard just reverting them, and blocking to prevent their being reinstated, as enough. JBW ( talk) 20:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Hey! I was wondering if you might want to chime in on this since you were involved in the recently concluded discussion for its counterpart?

Cheers! Enix150 ( talk) 23:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi @ Enix150! I’ll take a look, though I can’t promise I’ll have enough coherent thoughts to write down lol.

To be honest, with the emoji redirects that are coming to RfD, I’ve been thinking that it might actually be beneficial at this point to hold an ‘emoji redirect’ RfC. WP:REMOJI is currently part of an essay, not a guideline; and I think it would really help to have community consensus that would allow us to have a consistent baseline when thinking about these redirects.

All the best, ^user:A smart kitten _meow 05:28, 21 September 2023 (UTC) reply

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I came across the article 2023–24 SA20, and was going to tag it with {{ history merge}}, as it appears to be a simple cut-and-paste move from 2024 SA20. However, I noticed that 2023–24 SA20 has a very small amount of history prior to the copy-and-paste move. As I’m not overly familiar with histmerges, I’m therefore not sure if this is a barrier to performing a history merge/whether or not this is a suitable candidate for a history merge.

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The page should have been moved, rather than the content cut and pasted. There is attribution in the editing history, but even so, merging the histories is a clearer way of dealing with it, so I shall history merge them. Thanks for pointing this out. JBW ( talk) 21:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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There are three problems with this revert -

First, it is procedural ("a change that should be made by consensus").

Second, a bold edit has consensus until someone reverts it with a substantive rationale. See wp:PGBOLD.

Third, you don't give a substantive rationale. While you add "it widens one of the redirect guideline’s reasons for deletion," you don't say whether you believe that is a good idea or a bad one. And you don't give a rationale for that belief.

See generally, wp:DRNC. Butwhatdoiknow ( talk) 15:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Butwhatdoiknow: Thank you for your message. I’ve taken on board your feedback, and I’ll try to do better next time. (You may be interested in my response on WT:R.)

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You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. - Butwhatdoiknow ( talk) 02:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for:

accidentally published last edit before finished

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@ LunaEatsTuna: thanks for the trout! your message about the fact you seeing my edits made you smile, made me smile :)

All the best, ^user: A smart kitten _meow 22:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC) reply

I blame my fingers^/hj, my hand was stimming at the time I hit the first ‘move forward with edit’ button, then before I knew it I’d accidentally hit the ‘publish’ button as well without even so much as an edit summary :P ^user: A smart kitten _meow 22:55, 12 December 2023 (UTC) reply

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Hi there, I noticed you've been classifying articles recently - I wanted to make sure you were aware of the WP:RATER tool? As this may make your work easier. Thanks. - Kj cheetham ( talk) 16:25, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Kj cheetham: Thanks for the message (and apologies for the delay)! I am aware of Rater; however, I do most of my editing on mobile at the moment, so I don’t know if the tool would currently work well for me. In addition, the edits I’ve been making have been mostly to resolve rating conflicts/merge duplicate banners, and I don’t know if Rater would be best/work well for these types of maintenance tasks (granted, though, due to editing on mobile, I haven’t actually checked on this front). Thank you for letting me know about it though

All the best, ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 21:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Not to worry about the delay. :) I personally use Rater for solving rating conflicts, but I've never tried it on mobile. Keep up the good work in any case! - Kj cheetham ( talk) 16:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

Clovermoss

Dennis Brown

• Julia W
• Marasmusine
• PBS

CheckUser changes

• Aoidh
• HJ Mitchell
• Sdrqaz
• Spicy
• ToBeFree
• Vanamonde93
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Oversighter changes

• Aoidh
• Firefly
• Sdrqaz
• ToBeFree
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Arbitration

• Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
• The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

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	For your work on helping sort out talk page banners! Kj cheetham ( talk) 12:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Kj cheetham: Thank you! My brain likes a good repetitive task sometimes... ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 17:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I'd just like to say that:

1. I think you did a good job of your report at ANI
2. I think it was the right thing to do
3. If the ANI thread turns into a cesspit or otherwise steamrolls away, it doesn't reflect badly on you for starting the thread, it reflects badly on the other editors

Maybe this is unnecessary, and you aren't worrying about ANI at all. But I know I would be anxious if I had started the thread, and a word of reassurance is never amiss. Happy editing, 🌺 Cremastra ( talk) 22:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you, Cremastra. I really appreciate the message ^/gen

All the best, ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 22:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I'd like to echo Cremastra's sentiments as well, especially point #2. - I think it was the right thing to do. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 19:44, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Hello friend. I saw this edit and was wondering if it's correct to put banners in the redirect category shell? The documentation for the template says the h parameter is for hatnotes, so maybe it'd fit better outside the shell? Thanks! – Novem Linguae ( talk) 18:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Hello @ Novem Linguae, thanks for the message To be honest, I moved it inside the shell because - in my mind at the time - it seemed like it would fit better within the shell than outside it, and because I may have thought at the time that the banner looked better inside of the shell than on top of it (looking back now, though, I'm conflicted about this!).

However, since receiving your message, I've realised that I haven't actually read anywhere that it's okay and/or standard to put these sorts of banners in the shell - I remember the hatnote at Barron Trump being the first example I saw of custom text within the {{ Rcat shell}}, and I think my brain must have extrapolated from there regarding adding the {{ humor}} banner in the h= parameter! If you think the banner would be better outside the redirect category shell, I have no objection to you undoing my edit (or, alternatively, I'm more than happy to self-revert). Apologies for the potentially incorrect edit, and thanks again for the message :) All the best, ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 20:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Sounds good. I'll go ahead and undo. Thanks for the quick response. Happy editing :) – Novem Linguae ( talk) 20:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi,

Thanks for your recent input at Talk:Lewisham North (disambiguation). Everything is now back where I'd put it on January 8th. I'd assumed that this would be an uncontroversial move on the basis of page views. We live and learn.

There are many analogous situations involving other UK parliamentary constituencies past and present, where [[X (UK Parliament constituency)]] is primary on the basis of page views, but the disambiguation page is at [[X]] instead of [[X (disambiguation)]] - examples are " Hackney North and Stoke Newington" and " Lewisham East", but there are many more. Do you know of any way to streamline the process of bulk-moving all such pages? Is this sort of thing worth the trouble, in your opinion?

Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle ( talk) 12:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi Jean-de-Nivelle, and no problem! For uncontroversial moves, it'd be easiest to just boldly move the disambiguation pages and retarget the resulting redirects (although given the recent reversion, maybe that might not be the best idea here). Otherwise, it's possible to start an RM for multiple pages at once (assuming you're not already aware of that, apologies if you are). There's the risk of a WP:TRAINWRECK-type situation with that; although - if the primary topic is abundantly clear for all the nominated pages (as it seems like it might be from the Hackney North and Stoke Newington example) - that might be less of a worry than otherwise.

Let me know if I've explained anything poorly or if you have any other queries. All the best :) ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 20:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

No, that's all very clear, thank you. It's just that I'm not very experienced in this sort of thing, and I'm still not really sure why my page move of Lewisham North was reverted. The pagemover involved ( NmWTfs85lXusaybq) doesn't seem inclined to be communicative. I'm reluctant to make more bold moves in case it all just becomes a fruitless time sink. I suppose the thing to do would be to come up with a better list of all the candidates for moving and make a decision on that basis. I notice you didn't respond to my last question... Jean-de-Nivelle ( talk) 20:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Jean-de-Nivelle: I'm not sure why the move was reverted either, given that WP:MALPLACED didn't seem to apply in that case. To answer the question, personally, I'd say it's worth doing when the parliamentary constituency is the primary topic for a term (although I can only speak for myself - please don't feel compelled in any way to take on such a task, if you would rather not for any reason).

As it happens, I'm currently in the middle of going through a list of constituencies on Wikipedia for another reason, so if I come across any similar situations where there should be a redirect from the base name to the constituency, I might open individual RMs for them myself. (Also, apologies - I should have answered your question in my last message). All the best :) ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 22:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you. This issue is sort of a side-project of a side-project. I began following and selectively reverting the work of a very prolific block-evader, which led me to wonder how best to rationalise linking in articles on UK politics... and CBBC... and Hampshire... and National Trust properties... and EastEnders. You start tugging on a loose end, and suddenly everything begins to unravel. I think the lesson to be learnt may be that when things start unravelling, I should stop tugging. Thanks again, and best wishes. Jean-de-Nivelle ( talk) 22:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Jean-de-Nivelle: I know that feeling all too well! I started an RM at Talk:The Beekeeper (album), from which I randomly checked the list of current RMs, from which I found your RM, from which I found WP:NCUKPARL, from which I decided to start going through UK parliamentary constituencies to add {{ R from less specific name}} to already-redirected base names, from where I noticed inconsistencies in disambiguation pages relating to place names/stations & started this project that I might never get around to 😅. Best wishes to you also :) ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 23:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hello again,

Just FYI, this was Harry the house, and so was this.

Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle ( talk) 16:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Jean-de-Nivelle: Thanks for the heads up :) Best, ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 00:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC) reply

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes

• Red-tailed hawk
• Robertsky

• Ameliorate!
• Ancheta Wis
• Anthony Bradbury ( deceased)
• Cobi
• Ev
• Moondyne
• Worm That Turned

Bureaucrat changes

Worm That Turned

CheckUser changes

Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

• Enterprisey
• Izno

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

• Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. ( T326065)

Arbitration

• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
• Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

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• Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
• Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
• The Unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{ Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

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The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima ( submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

• AirshipJungleman29 ( submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
• Vami_IV ( submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
• MaranoFan ( submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
• Skyshifter ( submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
• Sammi Brie ( submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
• voorts ( submissions) and Elli ( submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges ( Cwmhiraeth ( talk · contribs), Epicgenius ( talk · contribs), and Frostly ( talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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Thank you, Clovermoss! I can't promise that my answers will be that good, but I'll try and give it a go when I can :) ‍—‍ a smart kitten_{[ meow} 17:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi smart kitten. You recently accepted this page into mainspace. It doesn't seem notable to me and I'm wondering on what basis you found it notable? Thanks Cabrils ( talk) 06:03, 26 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi Cabrils :) For context, I moved this page back into mainspace while reverting some of the many inappropriate draftifications made by the draftifying editor - see AN/I thread for reference. I was therefore reverting the draftifications as apparent pagemove-vandalism, and I can only apologise if the subject of this page is not actually notable. (Looking at the page logs, Alexandermcnabb marked the page as reviewed the previous time it was moved out of draftspace, so he may be able to help you with your query.)

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The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

• Generalissima ( submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
• Vami_IV ( submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 ( submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
• Sammi Brie ( submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
• MaranoFan ( submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
• Skyshifter ( submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV ( submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes Sdkb The Night Watch East718 Isabelle Belato Mzajac Staecker Stan Shebs Sugarfish Tamzin

Bureaucrat changes SilkTork

Guideline and policy news

• Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
• Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

Technical news

• The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. ( T353388)

Miscellaneous

• The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

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Thx for noticing that little issue with the filter, thanks!

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no problem Geardona, and sorry for the late response :)

to be honest, at first, i wasn't sure that this filter would be a good idea - i can't remember exactly why, but maybe i assumed that it would be set to 'warn', and thought that it would have too many false-positives/be too difficult to maintain (due to the large variation of possibilities for rcat redirect titles)? anyway -- i ended up changing my mind completely - i now think that having a log/tag-only filter for uncategorized redirects is great^/gen, and it's great to be able to see a list of recently created redirects that need rcat-tagging. so thank you, for requesting the filter in the first place :)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

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• Kosack
• NrDg
• TLSuda

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.

Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. ( T313405)

Arbitration

• An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

Miscellaneous

• Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

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We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:

• Sammi Brie ( submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
• voorts ( submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs ( Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
• Generalissima ( submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
• SounderBruce ( submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
• Tamzin ( submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
• Kusma ( submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

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