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I started a thread in August of last year about how
YouTube Music steals Wikipedia content without attribution.
[1] Anyways pretty much nothing has happened since then and they're still just stealing our content because copyleft is a joke now. I'm wondering what we could do on our end. For one, I'm thinking of listing YouTube Music at mirrors and forks. I haven't written any music artist ledes, but should I rewrite one so I can send a DMCA or something? Can I even send a DMCA if it isn't UGC? Are these bios UGC? Who knows.
But on another note, a WMF person told us they'd reach out to Google. Supposedly they have contacts there. Yet nothing happened. What does that say about the WMF's relationship with Google that even they can't get something done? Why are we giving money (I've donated hundreds but likely not again) to the WMF to make "partnerships" with Google
[2] if that partnership is so evidently useless? There's 11 people on the partnerships team.
[3] 11 people! Their entire job is to maintain so-called "partnerships" with organizations like Google, and obviously especially Google since it's their top listed "partner". What are they doing all day when they can't use this partnership to advocate on behalf of enwiki? I wonder if a member of the Partnerships team can explain what they're doing or not doing. Because if they reached out with their "contacts" and Google just didn't care that's one thing, but if they're not bothering to try that's another.
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on reply) 19:16, 18 January 2022 (UTC)The Call for Feedback: Board of Trustees elections is now open and will close on 7 16 February 2022.
With this Call for Feedback, the Movement Strategy and Governance team is taking a different approach. This approach incorporates community feedback from 2021. Instead of leading with proposals, the Call is framed around key questions from the Board of Trustees. The key questions came from the feedback about the 2021 Board of Trustees election. The intention is to inspire collective conversation and collaborative proposal development about these key questions.
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Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 01:49, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi All,
Thank you to everyone who participated in the Call for Feedback: Board of Trustees elections so far. The Movement Strategy and Governance team has announced the last key question:
How should affiliates participate in elections?
Affiliates are an important part of the Wikimedia movement. Two seats of the Board of Trustees due to be filled this year were filled in 2019 through the Affiliate-selected Board seats process. A change in the Bylaws removed the distinction between community and affiliate seats. This leaves the important question: How should affiliates be involved in the selection of new seats?
The question is broad in the sense that the answers may refer not just to the two seats mentioned, but also to other, Community- and Affiliate-selected seats. The Board is hoping to find an approach that will both engage the affiliates and give them actual agency, and also optimize the outcomes in terms of selecting people with top skills, experience, diversity, and wide community’s support.
The Board of Trustees is seeking feedback about this question especially, although not solely, from the affiliate community. Everyone is invited to share proposals and join the conversation in the Call for Feedback channels. In addition to collecting online feedback, the Movement Strategy and Governance team will organize several video calls with affiliate members to collect feedback. These calls will be at different times and include Trustees.
Due to the late addition of this third question, the Call will be extended until 16 February.
Best regards,
Movement Strategy and Governance
Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 02:24, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Template:Nom has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you.
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Please remove sentence 'For Sunnis, the crossing of the Red Sea by Moses occurred on this day.' from article Islamic calendar#Notable dates because sea cannot be crossed on foot by anyone. -- 5.43.74.120 ( talk) 23:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
In the article Dorothy Kilgallan, I added information on her appearances as herself and as a fictional character in 3 novels by Max Allan Collins. My footnote covered all the facts in the list. It was replaced by a footnote that only covers 1 of the three. Why? Wis2fan ( talk) 05:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
I’m sorry, I don’t know how to do those two things. I’m learning as I go along. But I don’t understand, why is it not sufficient for a author himself to say I based x on y? Also, on my iPad I can no longer access the base page to edit. I can edit text but italics show as italics and footnotes as numbers, not code and text. Do you know why? Anyway, thanks for being patient with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wis2fan ( talk • contribs) 20:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
The confusion was caused by me, I used the italic code instead of " for the chapter title. Mea culpa. Thanks for all the advice. I also forgot to sign my question. I do that, too. Wis2fan ( talk) 21:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi all; let's support our colleague Rehman, he is a great Wikipedian, and currently is in a critical economic situation. If you wish to support, please click on commons:User:A.Savin/Rehman fundraising and click there on the campaign link. Any donation and sharing this campaign (including Social media) is highly appreciated. Happy New Year. Best regards -- A.Savin ( talk) 14:38, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
I was looking at English Wikipedia, and I was puzzled it did not provide a breakdown by nationality for our international community. Presumably, the biggest group of English Wikipedia editors is American, but do we have any hard numbers? The old ~2010 survey concerned the entire Wikimedia Community (see Wikipedia:Wikipedians back then 20% of the Wikimedia community was American), and didn't provide a breakdown by project. We have a pagrviews breakdown which can be used as a form of a proxy assuming that views correlate with the level of contributions (which they do, but not ideally; anyway, link is [5], data is from 2018, please let me know if we have a new, more up to date version of this). We also have the Category:Wikipedians by ethnicity and nationality, but I am not sure how to easily visualize the data or even get a simple count in for a spreadsheet to make a graph. Anything better? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:10, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi all,
I am a student journalist working on an article about Wikipedia, Wikipedians, and what motivates you all to spend time contributing to this website for free. If any editors here would be interested in being interviewed or even just explaining the procedures and culture on this website, please message me. Any help you can offer would be appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eg8526a ( talk • contribs) 00:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, the Universal Code of Conduct News has been re-cast, now appearing is the Movement Strategy and Governance News! I've added some direct links in the shortened version below, if you want to skip right to the subjects for this issue. Please let me know if you have any questions. The Movement Strategy and Governance team is inviting input about the newsletter (past, present, future) at m:Talk:Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 02:57, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Welcome to the fifth issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News (formerly known as Universal Code of Conduct News)! This revamped newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the Movement Charter, Universal Code of Conduct, Movement Strategy Implementation grants, Board elections and other relevant Movement Strategy and Governance topics.
This Newsletter will be distributed quarterly, while more frequent Updates will also be delivered weekly or bi-weekly to subscribers. Please remember to subscribe here if you would like to receive these updates.
Please see additional details now available about the Universal Code of Conduct Ratification topic. There will be a live call with the project team and drafting committee members this Friday. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 18:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) Enforcement Guidelines were published 24 January 2022 as a proposed way to apply the Universal Code of Conduct across the movement. Comments about the guidelines can be shared here or the Meta-wiki talk page.
There will be conversations on Zoom on 4 February 2022 at 15:00 UTC, 25 February 2022 at 12:00 UTC, and 4 March 2022 at 15:00 UTC. Join the UCoC project team and drafting committee members to discuss the guidelines and voting process.
The timeline is available on Meta-wiki. The voting period is March 7 to 21. See the voting information page for more details.
Thank you to everyone who has participated so far.
Sincerely,
Movement Strategy and Governance
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As someone who just recently started editing again about about a year, I noticed something peculiar: I noticed the number of administrators on the English Wikipedia has went down by almost 200 from when I last noticed (which is approximately 1/6th from the about 1200 I remember.) I'm just curious ... was there any particular event that caused such a massive drop in administrators? Steel1943 ( talk) 20:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I've started a "Request for Comment" (RfC) on Meta for globally banning Niveles and his socks. As at least one of the accounts has edited on this project, I had to notify you. The discussion will be held at m:Requests for comment/Global ban for Niveles and socks. Thank you. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 18:05, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
The Community Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is supporting the creation of a global, community-driven Leadership Development Task Force. The purpose of the task force is to advise leadership development work.
The team is looking for feedback about the responsibilities of the Leadership Development Task Force. This Meta page shares the proposal for a Leadership Development Task Force and how you can help. Feedback on the proposal will be collected from 7 to 25 February 2022.
The team is also hosting Community Calls, including an introductory call on 23 February 2022 at 15:00 UTC where community members are invited to share their experiences. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 03:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
The last patent for MPEG-2 format expired four years ago, yet not one such non-free file has been found. If everyone is already aware of the patent expiration, then why do I see mpg files stored in Commons and not Wikipedia? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:32, 10 February 2022 (UTC); edited, 08:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I have started a Request for Comment about whether the "Confederate States of America" article should use the terms "slaves" / "African slaves" or should use the terms "enslaved people" / "enslaved Africans". This question also applies to other articles. Interested editors are encouraged to comment at Talk:Confederate States of America#Request for comment: "slaves" vs. "enslaved people" (and not here, to keep the discussion all in one place). Thanks. — Mudwater ( Talk) 01:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Once you've created a lot of Wikipedia articles, it is useful to have some insights about them. How many biographies? How many articles about buildings? How many articles in the US? Using Wikidata and Xtools Created pages tool, I've build a small tool which analyse your list of created pages : https://observablehq.com/@pac02/look-at-your-list-of-created-articles-through-wikidata. I've a similar tool focused on gender : https://observablehq.com/@pac02/user-level-gender-statistics-for-wikipedia?collection=@pac02/pages-created. Your feedback is welcome. PAC2 ( talk) 21:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
A vote in SecurePoll from 7 to 21 March 2022 is scheduled as part of the ratification process for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) Enforcement guidelines. Eligible voters are invited to answer a poll question and share comments. Read voter information and eligibility details. During the poll, voters will be asked if they support the enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct based on the proposed guidelines.
The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire movement. The revised enforcement guidelines were published 24 January 2022 as a proposed way to apply the policy across the movement. A Wikimedia Foundation Board statement calls for a ratification process where eligible voters will have an opportunity to support or oppose the adoption of the UCoC Enforcement guidelines in a vote. Wikimedians are invited to translate and share important information. For more information about the UCoC, please see the project page and frequently asked questions on Meta-wiki.
There are events scheduled to learn more and discuss:
You can comment on Meta-wiki talk pages in any language. You may also contact either team by email: msgwikimedia.org or ucocprojectwikimedia.org
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Hi, I am a
Wikipedian from the
Chinese Wikipedia. Chinese Wikipedia, when the community is just created, applied a lot of English Wikipedia policies. Nowadays, for
some reasons, the Chinese Wikipedian Community is having a lot of differences from the English one, thus a lot of policies is no longer suit the Chinese Wikipedian Community. For example, some Wikipedians are thinking of "Why
RFA/
RFB uses a voting system while other roles (for example,
Rollbackers) uses a simple
consensus system?"
However,
Jimbo Wales said that sysop is just like normal Wikipedians:
So, why does RFA/RFB use a voting system, that's different from the other roles? Wiki Emoji | [[User:Emojiwiki| Talk~~ 11:26, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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What, if anything, do you do when you notice an IP who is clearly not a newbie?
No particular "incident" for AN here, but clearly 94.252.4.105 ( talk · contribs) has hit the ground running starting yesterday, and is familiar with categorization ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5), finding and adding articles to "See also" ( 6, 7, 8, 9), retargeting redirects ( 10) and the details of Image syntax ( 11). It's safe to say they've edited before. (In addition, there is an active page block on range 94.252.0.0/17 placed on 6 February by Ohnoitsjamie.)
At first glance, their edits (at least at this IP) seem consistently beneficial. I left them a standard IP welcome message which includes an invitation to WP:REGISTER, but other than that, is there anything to do or note here? Mathglot ( talk) 22:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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A number of global users may have been erroneously indefinitely blocked at the Indonesian Wikipedia by Stephensuleeman in 2014, who has sadly since passed away, for "invalid username." Examples of this include 8ty3hree (my former username) and Surv1v4l1st. I requested id-wiki admin User:Bennylin to request an unblock and he confirmed that the block was in error. "Surv1v4l1st" may be an exception, as id-wiki proscribes substituting numbers for similar-looking letters as in 1ove or he11o. However, I do not feel it was necessary to preemptively block global users who have never edited the Indonesian Wikipedia and do not know the vagaries of id-wiki's username policy. I do not know of any other language Wikimedia projects that have done this, as my global account was never blocked on the 104 other projects there. Additionally, having a single block for a language globally is very problematic, for example at Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, which requires users blocked on any project to manually request an exemption. Ideally I would have put this at a noticeboard for id-wiki admins but I do not speak Indonesian, and while many of those editors may speak English, it involves other languages outside the two as well. 93 ( talk) 01:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi... I am recently open up RfC on the usage of image2 parameter on infobox in Talk:Belize Defence Force#RFC on usage of image2 parameter on infobox. I have notify related Wikiproject, but since it was low traffic article in the beginning with, barely any comment there.... So, perhaps by posting it here... we can have more input. Your comments would be welcome. Ckfasdf ( talk) 05:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
"The Hidden Image Descriptions Making the Internet Accessible". nytimes.com. Retrieved 19 February 2022. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:05, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
It would be helpful to have a picture of the actual work on the Murder in Mississippi (painting) article. Most of Rockwell's art articles have a picture, but that one does not, for whatever reason. However, I am not sure on the copyright mechanics, et al., on adding this. Any assistance would be great. Thanks. --Surv1v4l1st ╠ Talk║ Contribs╣ 00:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I know this has been discussed previously without any real resolution, but a single-purpose account that's been going from one article to the next adding lots of criticism has raised my concern that there's a serious NPOV and UNDUE problem with them. Even if the language is toned down (e.g. a section header in the Netflix article labeled "DVD spinoff disaster"), we're left with a one-sided litany of Reasons Why This Thing Is Bad. Criticism of The Walt Disney Company, for example, is basically a bitchfest about the company, almost as large as the article about the company itself: essentially a POV fork. There's one article that talks about the company neutrally, and another that tells you everything people don't like about the company. That isn't NPOV. These sections/articles then act as magnets for WP:ADVOCACY and WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 16:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi! I looked through a PhD thesis ( seen here) that describes the workings of the Draft:American Embassy School in detail. I cannot find a specific statement from the author which explains why they chose the school as their case study, but do you think the thesis bolsters the school's notability anyway? WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I can see that spin-off films are included in the lists of film series in the List of feature film series with (number) entries articles. I don't think it's actually correct, as spin-off films are not a part of the film series, but a separate film in the same franchise as the film series. So I think we should either remove every spin-off films from these lists in these articles or rename the articles where the word series is replaced with the word franchise. What is the most correct thing to do here? Karamellpudding1999 ( talk) 09:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I stumbled onto Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Autism#Please update symbolism and language. Est. 2021 ( talk · contribs) 18:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
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Greetings from Wiki Loves Folklore International Team,
We are pleased to inform you that Wiki Loves Folklore an international photographic contest on Wikimedia Commons has been extended till the 15th of March 2022. The scope of the contest is focused on folk culture of different regions on categories, such as, but not limited to, folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, etc.
We would like to have your immense participation in the photographic contest to document your local Folk culture on Wikipedia. You can also help with the translation of project pages and share a word in your local language.
Best wishes,
International Team
Wiki Loves Folklore
MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 04:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
(Chinese)各位好,我在许多条目中发现了一些原创的地域名称,例如指代云南的“Diantnam”(不列滇)和“Great Diantnam”(大不列滇),指代四川的“Basuria”(巴蜀利亚)。但是我查遍整个中文互联网,在推特和Medium之外没有见到任何来源。我想知道“Diantnam”(不列滇)、"Great Diantnam"(大不列滇)“Basuria”(巴蜀利亚)这种名称是否有可靠参考来源,是否并非原创研究,以及是否需要继续保留在条目里?
据我自己所知。这些名称应当属于原创研究,他们非常的古怪,明显是生造的。例如“Diantnam”这个名称,看起来是“滇南”(意思是“云南的南部”),但是其中的“dian”来自汉语拼音“滇”,tnam的来源却是一个问题。依照汉语拼音“南”应该写作“nan”,依照古汉语发音应该是“nam”,可是“t”是哪里来的?这个“Diantnam”是不是来源于某位用户自己发明的汉语转写方案?还是说“tnam”其实是来源于越南的名称“Vietnam”?而且据我所知,云南也从来没有“滇南”之称,“滇南”只是指云南的南部,类似于“鲁南”、“苏南”这些称呼。
在谷歌上搜索,会发现发明了“Diantnam”一词的网友也发明了一个对应的中文词汇“不列滇”,“不列滇”和“大不列滇”一词是对“不列颠”和“大不列颠”的拙劣模仿,我最初以为这个词完全是网友开玩笑的,直到我在维基共享资源和维基百科上发现这个名称。
所谓“Basuria”一词中的“ria”是哪里来的?我认为“ria”一词来自欧洲语言的词根,这显然是生编乱造的。
需要注意的是,确实有一群人长期活跃在各个维基百科版本上,并持之以恒地给中国的地区或者语言起新的名字,亦或者上传自己虚构的旗帜。原创研究的地名的例子有“Yuyencia”“Diantnam”“Basuria”。原创研究的语言的例子有有人给大连话起名“青丘话”、给胶辽官话起名“齐语”、“东齐语”、“莱语”;给冀鲁官话起名“鲁语”;创造了一个新概念“燕语”,所谓的“燕语”包括北京官话、部分东北官话和部分胶辽官话。关于“燕语”的说法完整存在于所谓“Yuyencia”的官方网站上(见yuyencia.org)。毫无疑问,这些跨维基的原创研究是同一批人干的。
我曾经试图在多个维基上清除这些内容,在除了粤语维基百科之外的维基百科上都取得了成功。粤语维基的一些编辑者认为我清除原创研究和无来源内容的行为属于“政治审查”,基本上我每一笔编辑被回退了。根据我在粤语维基百科上的经验,维基百科社群是不允许私自移除原创研究内容的。因此我发布在这里,希望社群能够达成一个关于“Basuria”和“Diantnam”的共识。我期望英语维基百科也能够移除错误内容,从而保卫社群社群的价值观,捍卫百科全书的价值。
(English by Google Translate) Hello everyone, I found some original regional names in many articles, such as "Diantnam" (不列滇)and "The Great Diantnam"(大不列滇) referring to Yunnan and "Basuria"(巴蜀利亚) referring to Sichuan. But I checked the Chinese Internet and found no source except on Twitter and BBS. I want to know whether the names "Diantnam", "great Diantnam" and "Basuria" have reliable reference sources, whether they are not original research, and whether they need to continue to be kept in the articles?
As far as I know. These names should belong to original research. They are very strange and obviously made up. For example, the name "Diantnam" looks like “滇南” (meaning "Southern Yunnan"), but the "dian" in it comes from the Chinese pinyin "dian"(滇), and the source of "tnam" is a problem. According to the Chinese Pinyin, "南" should be written as "nan", according to the middle Chinese pronunciation should be "nam", but where does "t" come from? Does this "Diantnam" come from a Chinese transcription scheme invented by a wikipedia user? Or is "tnam" actually derived from "Vietnam"? And as far as I know, Yunnan has never been called "Diannan"(滇南). "Diannan" only refers to the south of Yunnan, similar to the terms "鲁南" (Lunan, Southern Shandong) and "苏南" (Sunan, Southern Jiangsu).
When you search on Google, you will find that the netizen who invented the word "Diantnam" also invented a corresponding Chinese word "Buliedian"(不列滇), "Buliedian" and "Da Buliedian"(大不列滇), which are a poor imitation of "Britain" and "Great Britain"(Britain in Chinese is " 不列颠"). At first, I thought this word was completely joked by netizens until I found this name on wikicommons and Wikipedia.
Where does the "-ria" in the "Basuria" come from? I think the "-ria" comes from European languages. This name is obviously fictional.
It should be noted that there are indeed a group of people who have been active in various Wikipedia versions for a long time, and constantly give new names to Chinese regions or languages, or upload their fictional flags. Examples of original regional names of regions are "Yuyencia", "Diantnam" and "Basuria". Examples of the language are that some people named Dalian dialect to "Qingqiu dialect" or "Qingqiu Language" and Jiaoliao Mandarin to "Qi language", "Dongqi language" and "Lai language"; Name the Jilu Mandarin to "Lu language"; Created a new concept "Yan language". The so-called "Yan language" includes Beijing Mandarin, some Northeast Mandarin and some Jiaoliao Mandarin. The statement of "Yan language" completely exists on the official website of the so-called "Yuyencia"(See [8]). There is no doubt that the original research across wikis was done by the same group.
I have tried to clear these contents on several wikis and have been successful on many Wikipedia sites except Cantonese Wikipedia. Some editors on Cantonese Wikipedia think that my act of eliminating original research and non sourced content is "political censorship", and almost every edit of me has been backed down. According to my experience on Cantonese Wikipedia, the Wikipedia community is not allowed to remove the original research content without permission. Therefore, I post here in the hope that the community can reach a consensus on "Basuria" and "Diantnam". I hope English Wikipedia can eliminate these errors, and defend the values of community and encyclopedia.-- Eguersi ( talk) 10:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Maryana Iskander, the new CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation, is inviting your comments about puzzles within our movement as well as trends in the broader world that impact the work of the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia movement. Feedback is welcome here and on the Meta-Wiki talk pages through March 4. In April, the Foundation will also host community conversations on the draft focus areas for our upcoming annual plan. -- KStineRowe (WMF) ( talk) 18:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
There are thousands of news articles from reliable sources containing the term "loneliness epidemic", including government agencies in both the United States and the United Kingdom. This has been "a thing" mentioned in the media since well before covid. Might this be notable enough for its own article separate from loneliness and social isolation, as its own historical event? MarshallKe ( talk) 15:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I use Wikipedia almost daily. It is a great resource and I want to donate to Wikipedia. But when I try to donate online, inexplicably I am REQUIRED to give my email. Why the f#ck do you need my email. I'm willing to give my credit card because that is nessary to make a donation, but there NO legitimate necessity that you have my email for me to make a donation. If you remove this unnecessary intrusion to my privacy on you donation site, I'll donate, but not until that happens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1014:B064:E039:0:56:B1D3:6101 ( talk) 22:47, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, dear Wikipedians!
Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and
Ukrainian Institute, has launched the second edition of writing challenge "
Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 17 February to 17 March 2022. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that made a contribution to world culture. The most active contesters will receive
prizes.
We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! -- ValentynNefedov (WMUA) ( talk) 08:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Iranians have started blocking Wikipedia mobile Corp of Iran, TCE,fixed line or data. bi ( talk) 10:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all,
I'm an undergraduate currently doing a senior capstone in rhetoric and political science; as part of this project, I'm researching what hints a state actor may leave, in particular on a platform like Wikipedia. Accordingly, I'd like to examine cases where state actors have edited Wikipedia articles, especially without disclosing the obvious conflict of interest. I'm also interested in other forms of confirmed non-organic Wikipedia editing (e.g., edits made by Congressional aides, edits made by the subject of the article themselves, etc.). What are some particularly notable cases (especially ones that are well-documented, i.e. have received news coverage or been acknowledged by the government/other actor who made the non-organic edit)? I appreciate any help you can offer! 2604:2800:0:8B9E:8DF:B89B:E335:2B0 ( talk) 19:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=La_Mancha_Negra
Hello I added image to this article did I do it right
FelixAnon ( talk) 16:14, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey all - as a follow-up to #Call for Feedback about the Board of Trustees elections is now open: the call is now closed and reports are available for review. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 03:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
The Call for Feedback: Board of Trustees elections is now closed. This Call ran from 10 January and closed on 16 February 2022. The Call focused on three key questions and received broad discussion on Meta-wiki, during meetings with affiliates, and in various community conversations. The community and affiliates provided many proposals and discussion points. The reports are on Meta-wiki.
This information will be shared with the Board of Trustees and Elections Committee so they can make informed decisions about the upcoming Board of Trustees election. The Board of Trustees will then follow with an announcement after they have discussed the information.
Thank you to everyone who participated in the Call for Feedback to help improve Board election processes.
Best regards,
Movement Strategy and Governance
Xeno (WMF) (
talk) 03:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
I got an email from a long-term (2007), very active (100,000+) editor here. He says he had to delete some information from his phone and accidentally deleted his WP password. I guess he can't remember it. Is there any way to do what commercial operations do, namely email him a temporary password so he can log in and get things back set up? I don't know if WP keeps a record of our emails at all, so maybe this is not possible? Any advice, from people more savvy than me, would be very welcome. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:46, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
This is interesting (inspired by Pyb's post at Wikipedia Weekly FB group):
More stats here. Mathglot ( talk) 07:36, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I apologize if this isn't the place to put this question, I couldn't seem to find a better place.
I've noticed that when admins block vandals, they often do it for 31 hours. Why specifically 31 hours? It just seems like an odd number. InterstateFive ( talk) - just another roadgeek 19:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
:)
See also
quarry:query/60552, showing the very first one. (AFAICT, SlimVirgin's 31-hour blocks in July of '05 were just coincidental, so it's Magister Mathematicae's a few months later that kicked it off.) --
Tamzin
cetacean needed (she/they) 20:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)Hello everyone,
The ratification voting process for the revised enforcement guidelines of the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) is now open! Voting commenced on SecurePoll on 7 March 2022 and will conclude on 21 March 2022. Please read more on the voter information and eligibility details.
The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire movement. The revised enforcement guidelines were published 24 January 2022 as a proposed way to apply the policy across the movement. You can read more about the UCoC project.
You can also comment on Meta-wiki talk pages in any language. You may also contact the team by email: ucocprojectwikimedia.org
Sincerely,
Movement Strategy and Governance
Wikimedia Foundation
MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 10:22, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey all - I'm including below an invitation to the upcoming Saturday 12 March Global Conversation about Hubs, which are being explored as a way to help coordinate support for communities. Please see more details below.
Hello!
The Movement Strategy and Governance team of the Wikimedia Foundation would like to invite you to the next event about "Regional and Thematic Hubs". The Wikimedia Movement is in the process of understanding what Regional and Thematic Hubs should be. Our workshop in November was a good start ( read the report), but we're not finished yet.
Over the last weeks we conducted about 16 interviews with groups working on establishing a Hub in their context ( see Hubs Dialogue). These interviews informed a report that will serve as a foundation for discussion on March 12. The report is planned to be published on March 9.
The event will take place on March 12, 13:00 to 16:00 UTC on Zoom. Interpretation will be provided in French, Spanish, Arabic, Russian, and Portuguese. Registration is open, and will close on March 10. Anyone interested in the topic is invited to join us. More information on the event on Meta-wiki.
Best regards,
Kaarel Vaidla
Movement Strategy
Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 17:31, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Just to give an example from my watchlist: This is what I had to do in order to make the article compliant with our policies. The information is arguably credible (I did not attempt to look for more sources), but the two sources added to the article are (i) partisan from the same side and (ii) do not even make an attempt to verify the info, instead citing social media belonging to some newsmakers. Note that at least one of the sources is RS, and the second one looks more or less fine. I could have reverted, I have chosen to attribute the opinions instead. This is now massively happening across hundreds of articles. There is probably very little we can do about it, since Russian reporting is clearly just a lie and should not be added in any case, and people take Ukrainian reporting subcritically and still want to add into into articles. But it is something to have in mind, that we are now full of badly sourced partisan info. As I said elsewhere, the Russian invasion should motivate us to add high-quality info to our articles but is not an excuse to lowering our standards.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 11:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm basically looking for a centralised tree of knowledge, where you can collaborate with the public to construct mind-maps within each topic
As with Wiki pages - lots of hyperlinks, anyone can edit the articles.
However, wikipedia presents information as long passages of text. Often it is easier to present information as a logical flowchart or mind map, rather than as passages of text.
I'm familiar with the existance of specific 'wiki' sites, however that is not what I mean. I'm looking for a site containing "mind maps", rather than passages of text (as you see in a traditional wikipedia article)
I'm looking for a site which allows crowdsourced contributions to a universal "mind map"
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Vitreology ( talk) 07:08, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
My article, Stepan (cat), created on March 3, has not yet been reviewed. ✍A.WagnerC ( talk) 03:37, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
I wish to make an anonymous factual addition to an article, based on first hand experience, and this is the only hope I can find to achieve this. The facts are easily verified. The Article refers to Chester Seabury, who broke the educational color barrier in the State of Florida (which is correctly stated in the article about him). The following is first hand knowledge: Chester also broke the color barrier another way while at Stranahan, by singing in the boys chorus, which, under the direction of Peggy Barber, won multiple competitions including the Florida State 'Boys Chorus Competition' in Daytona. Participation required that Chet room in an all-white hotel with three other members of the chorus, who were white... Submitted anonymously by a fellow member of the chorus. Hopefully, this method will work and the article will be amended. MPC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:143:580:4CA0:D580:F190:3B29:87EB ( talk) 03:52, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
International photographic contest Wiki Loves Folklore 2022 ends on 15th March 2022 23:59:59 UTC. This is the last chance of the year to upload images about local folk culture, festival, cuisine, costume, folklore etc on Wikimedia Commons. Watch out our social media handles for regular updates and declaration of Winners.
( Facebook , Twitter , Instagram)
The writing competition Feminism and Folklore will run till 31st of March 2022 23:59:59 UTC. Write about your local folk tradition, women, folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, folklore, and tradition, including ballads, folktales, fairy tales, legends, traditional song and dance, folk plays, games, seasonal events, calendar customs, folk arts, folk religion, mythology etc. on your local Wikipedia. Check if your local Wikipedia is participating
A special competition called Wiki Loves Falles is organised in Spain and the world during 15th March 2022 till 15th April 2022 to document local folk culture and Falles in Valencia, Spain. Learn more about it on Catalan Wikipedia project page.
We look forward for your immense co-operation.
Thanks Wiki Loves Folklore international Team MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:40, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, following the call for feedback last month for the Leadership Development Working Group, I would like to share the summary of input (note the terminology change to Working Group) along with an invitation to apply. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 01:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
Thank you to everyone who participated in the feedback period for the Leadership Development Working Group initiative. A summary of the feedback can be found on Meta-wiki. This feedback will be shared with the working group to inform their work. The application period to join the Working Group is now open and will close on April 10, 2022. Please review the information about the working group, share with community members who might be interested, and apply if you are interested.
Thank you,
From the Community Development team
Let me know if you have questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 01:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
can anyone please find a pre-2006 source confirming that Nelumbo nucifera is referred to as such? RZuo ( talk) 11:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
I apologize if this is the wrong place for this. If it is, please tell me where it should go.
I've learned that Shane Warne was a legendary cricket player, but does his death really deserve to be the top news story on the front page for an entire week? There's a major war going on right now, that has the potential to become much much worse.
Is Warne's story likely to be updated anytime soon? Was there anything suspicious about it? I'm not trying to belittle the death of someone who was very widely beloved and admired, but there are large portions of the world that know little or nothing about cricket. I myself (I'm American) know very little about it. I wouldn't expect the death of an American athlete to completely monopolize the news at the beginning of an international crisis. -- JDspeeder1 ( talk) 07:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
The Ukrainian president is much in the news, and various spellings are used by reliable sources. Your feedback would be appreciated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine#Zelensky or Zelenskyy. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 07:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
When I was finding the origin of speedy deletion, I found no discussions about why this has to be set up. So, where are the discussions? Wiki Emoji | Emojiwiki Talk~~ 23:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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I've been a bit hesitant to bring this up since it might exacerbate the issue I'm having, but when I first made my user page on Wikipedia in 2015, I included a lot of personal information about myself. Although I have long since removed the info from my user page, it still shows up in my user page history.
I was wondering if an admin could remove the earlier revisions containing my personal info, as I do have a lot of privacy concerns regarding this. Thanks!
-- Dtale1984 ( talk) 16:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Many editors, myself included, have spent a lot of time trying to make consistent the articles listing the cities, towns, villages, etc. of every state in the country (and of various other political entities around the world). One question has come up several times: how do we define "municipality"? We've settled on Lists of municipalities as a catch-all so we don't end up with separate lists for villages and cities in a state where the only legal difference is an arbitrary population cutoff. However, to that end we've been using "municipality" to mean "incorporated municipality", so as to exclude (and list separately) CDPs, civil townships, and the like. There seems to be a lot of agreement that this is good: we should list incorporated cities, towns, and villages, etc. separately from unincorporated CDPs and townships.
However, another possible definition of "municipality" is "a single administrative division having corporate status and powers of self-government or jurisdiction". One example of where this gets fuzzy is Michigan: Michigan only has two kinds of incorporated municipalities – cities and villages – but its unincorporated townships do have powers of self-government, and its unincorporated charter townships have even more self-government or jurisdiction. So should these be listed in a List of municipalities in Michigan? In other cases (see Wisconsin and South Dakota, both of which are still awaiting a merge) there is a consensus not to include civil townships, even if they have limited self-government.
As a further example, Vermont has 5 unincorporated towns, which are otherwise equivalent to the rest of the state's towns. Should these five towns be excluded from the list of municipalities because they aren't incorporated? If so, then shouldn't Michigan's townships be excluded from their list of municipalities? Is consistency even that important? Dylanvt ( talk) 02:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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Here [9] is the withdrawn Wikipedia page deletion request. Please, close this request. Thank you - -- Ooligan ( talk) 00:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Apologies for cross-posting this, I wanted to make sure that as many people as possible knew this was going to happen, so people aren't surprised when it appears.
Starting the week of 28 March 2022, the Wikimedia Foundation will conduct a quarterly anonymous survey about safety perceptions among the English Wikipedia community members.
This survey responds to a Universal Code of Conduct community recommendation, and we encourage you to participate.
There are more details about the survey on the project page, and you can also leave comments.
Best regards, Community Safety Survey team –– STei (WMF) ( talk) 21:25, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Just wondering if any of you have seen this new front page article, it’s pretty concerning. https://theintercept.com/2022/03/21/missouri-senator-steven-roberts-wikipedia/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfecnot ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
On this page I discovered a logo combined the coat of arms of Ukraine and four fleurs-de-lis, who know about that? -- Great Brightstar ( talk) 17:28, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
The Community Resilience and Sustainability team at the Wikimedia Foundation is hosting a conversation hour led by its Vice President Maggie Dennis.
Topics within scope for this call include Movement Strategy, Board Governance, Trust and Safety, the Universal Code of Conduct, Community Development, and Human Rights. Come with your questions and feedback, and let's talk! You can also send us your questions in advance.
The meeting will be on 24 March 2022 at 15:00 UTC ( check your local time).
You can read details on Meta-wiki. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 02:48, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
What happened to our talk page button? It displays the text ‘Fa tiban ka ho’! I hope someone fixes this. ·~ dictátor· mundꟾ 10:56, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
See heading. MarshallKe ( talk) 00:07, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
In reading about Ursula von der Leyen, I did a double-take on finding a linked article named Hannover Medical School. "Hannover" is the German spelling of the city known in English as "Hanover". Does it make any sense for the English language WP to name an article partly in German and partly in English? This would be like naming an article Bayerisch football derbies or whatever, in the many articles about Bavarian entities.
The opening of the article says "The Hannover Medical School ( German: Medizinische Hochschule Hannover ... is a university medical centre in the city of Hanover, in Germany, part of a regional medical network," and thereafter in the text the German spelling Hannover is consistently used. The talk page contains only one untitled, undated and unsigned [2007, anon IP] entry; and most edits to the article are made by either IPs or bots, with no named active user having made more than a single edit. Thus there's really no one to ask or discuss the question with.
I try to limit my own edits mostly to spelling, grammar, and adding links where it seems useful, or occasionally rephrasing a confusing sentence. In any event I'm not about to repeat my tyro mistake of moving an article - although if someone else agrees and moves it from "Hannover" to "Hanover", I would happily change the spellings in the text. Milkunderwood ( talk) 01:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey, if you don't watch the technical section you may accidentally ignore an important message you perhaps would prefer not to ignore, so this is like a redirect within the VP to increase the visibility.
I'm writing on behalf of a Wikimedia Foundation team working on the new desktop interface. We're building the last features now. In a few months, we'll complete the project. We've prepared the last (fourth) prototype with improvements to the sidebar and page tools menu (aka More menu). This prototype is for you to check out and share feedback. On Tuesday, March 29, 19:00 18:00 UTC, we're having a meeting for anyone interested in the project. Read more on VP (technical) and see you on Tuesday.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (
talk) 02:18, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Greetings,
Adequate and nuanced overview for even non– Muslim audience is expected out of the articles Muslims and Muslim world. Whether the articles are achieving that purpose adequately? Requesting and expecting proactive participation in providing inputs from non–Muslim audience too along with Muslim users.
Since the article Muslim world is tagged various improvements it can not be submitted to formal review process still I feel the article deserves more inputs for content improvement.
Requesting your visit to the articles
Thanks
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 06:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Feminism and Folklore 2022 which is an international writing contest organized at Wikipedia ends soon that is on 31 March 2022 11:59 UTC. This is the last chance of the year to write about feminism, women biographies and gender-focused topics such as folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, fairy tales, folk plays, folk arts, folk religion, mythology, folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales and more
Keep an eye on the project page for declaration of Winners.
We look forward for your immense co-operation.
Thanks Wiki Loves Folklore international Team MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Prompted by an RfC discussion at the BRD discussion page.
This is about content or substance edits, not proofing or html-publishing-related edits. 50.74.109.2 ( talk) 13:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Bold editing is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia. All editors are welcome to make positive contributions. It's how new information is added to Wikipedia. When in doubt, edit! Either the edit will get the attention of interested editors, or you will simply improve the page. Either is a good outcome.StarryGrandma ( talk) 00:38, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I am trying to created Category:SafeSport. But as an IP, cannot. I tried Article Wizard, but it just send me in a circle.
Articles that might be considered for it include SafeSport for starters, and some of the articles that link to SafeSport.
A parent category might be Category:Child sexual abuse in the United States. Also Category:Sexual assaults in the United States and Category:United States at the Olympics.
Can someone perhaps help and start it for me?
Thanks! -- 2603:7000:2143:8500:84D0:51DB:559E:8F08 ( talk) 19:55, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Any conjectures on why Talk:Speech synthesis receives a particularly large number of drive-by additions of new sections, added by single-edit IP users, that consist of gibberish or sentence fragments in Indonesian or both? I'm particularly intrigued by the ones (in Indonesian) that translate to "salaam aleikum to all bus passengers from johor bahru to malacca will be departing soon we from larkin sentral would like to wish you a happy hari raya" [10], "Ayang beautiful there is a whatsapp from my handsome" [11], "Moskona you love but how come you're so naughty" [12], "Hi adam there's a whatsapp message coming in" [13], and "the child has a whatsapp entry from the girl" [14], covering a span of more than two months. Largoplazo ( talk) 16:36, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Largoplazo I thought it was some sort of weird meme; the Indonesian version of the article was also protected due to similar spam. Talk:Twilight Sparkle and Talk:15.ai are also targets for this weird Southeast Asian spam. wizzito | say hello! 17:01, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Anyone else got the banner for a survey by Wikimedia Switzerland? Links to here, and besides not knowing why they are asking me, I also have no clue what they are going on about. Why should we care if they call it an Innolab or an Experimentation Space? Is this really something that should be put at the top of X% (all?) editors pages? Fram ( talk) 09:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Dear community members from South Africa,
I wanted to inform you that the Wikimedia Foundation fundraising campaign on Wikipedia in South Africa will be running from the 23rd of May to the 20th of June. The banners will be visible to non-logged in readers from South Africa.
Prior to the start of the banner campaign, we are planning to run some tests in April and May, so you might see banners for 3-5 hours a couple of times before the campaign starts. This activity will ensure that our technical infrastructure works. We are currently working on the messages for the banners and I will share examples with you later.
Generally, before and during the campaign, you can contact us:
Thanks you and regards,
Julia JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 07:26, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Ok, first off, please forgive me if this has already been disccussed somewhere. I did a search and didn't find much.
My concern is this: Film and television always have had a rather large overlap when it comes to "groupings". Genres, are just one example.
And on Wikipedia we group such things in categories, lists, and navboxes.
Well, with the onset of streaming, the lines have really become blurred. They are all now "filmed presentations", with the difference mainly being whether they are " episodic" or not.
We've seen the various industries try to keep them separate for things such as the Academy Awards and the Emmy Awards, but we're also starting to see the conglomerates combine such departments, for example: NBCUniversal Television and Streaming.
(And note a lot of this applies to radio as well, but that might get more "muddy". But we should probably keep that in mind.)
Now I am not proposing that we merge everything yet. As I don't think the industry is there yet (see also WP:CRYSTAL). But I do think at this point we can probably merge together all the different genre explanation pages, just for one example. Renaming them to something more neutral. And merging filmed genres (regardless of format - tv, cable, film, video, streamed, etc). The pages, categories, lists, and navboxes.
The way we have it now, there is a fair amount of duplication, as well as splitting, which is to the detriment to our readership and navigation.
So first, this thread is about proposing such mergers, and to see what all may be entailed. Perhaps a new shared workgroup amongst the affected wikiprojects?
Second, it would be nice if we had a single term for all these filmed presentations. I did a preliminary google search, but I think there are others of you who might be better at finding authoritative sources on this topic. I do want to avoid WP:NEO of course : )
I look forward to everyone's thoughts and contributions concerning this. - jc37 09:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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In a recent ANI thread, users disagreed on various issues related to the community magazine here on wiki. In light of this, various questions arise which I believe it would be beneficial for both the Signpost team, the community, and how the Signpost is portrayed in media for us to answer. Namely, these are:
General comments on how to improve the signpost or its strengths are also welcome. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 23:46, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Two points:
To answer this discussion's question, however (unlike the other 2 venues this conversation is taking place in...):
A number of users have that quote on their userpages, but I wonder how many remember the context in which TBotNL said that. I do, because I happen to have started the thread he said it in, concerning some projectspace drama du jour. TBotNL, who had been on a vacation from projectspace to focus exclusively on the article Genie (feral child), spoke in the context of what he'd learned from that experience, and how it put our petty squabbles in perspective. Well, I've been working lately on List of journalists killed during the Russo-Ukrainian War—five civilian journalists killed in the line of duty since the full-scale invasion began, two Ukrainian, three international; plus two Ukrainian journalists killed going about their daily lives. And so nine years after TBotNL said that to me, I think I now get exactly what he meant. None of this arguing goes anywhere. It's just a wild goose chase entirely independent of actually improving this encyclopedia. This one fucking Signpost editorial is now the subject of an MfD, DRV, ANI, VPM, and Signpost talk thread, and people all seem more than happy to chip in and argue. Meanwhile Template:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has multiple redlinks on it, and List of people and organizations sanctioned during the Russo-Ukrainian War, which I recently pared down to a readable condition, still needs a massive update to be brought in line with International sanctions during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Spending five minutes on improving any article in that navbox will do much more good for the world than any projectspace argument will, and hopefully will"Our work together here should be our armor, not some sharp, angry, burning sword. I would strongly recommend that everyone here find an article to work on for a while; not the cliche "random article", but something that gives you a nice tug at the heartstrings. It feels great to be out there doing work on something you genuinely care about, and I assure you it'll help you regain the sense of why you're here."
help you regain the sense of why you're here. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 02:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
nearly every item in the current edition of the Signpost is either pro-Ukrainian, anti-Russian, or both
Now I don't think this [...] is a bad thing.
encyclopedic content. That core content policy also mentions "article" and "articles" over 30 times. The policy never mentions talk pages or project space. This is in contrast to another really important policy, WP:BLP, which goes out of its way to say that it applies everywhere on Wikipedia, without exception. Clearly, this editorial cannot be in violation of NPOV because that policy does not apply to The Signpost, or any other civil, non-disruptive expressions of reasonable opinion outside of encyclopedia articles. The OP and some other editors object to the phrase "stand in solidarity" in the headline but Solidarity is described in our own article as
an awareness of shared interests, objectives, standards, and sympathies creating a psychological sense of unity of groups or classes. Wikipedia, after all, is
written and maintained by a community of volunteers through a model of open collaborationand our goal is free educational content for all of humanity, including the residents of Ukraine and Russia. The actual content of the editorial seems perfectly compatible with Wikipedia's goals, and the body of the editorial was calling for improved coverage of Russia, Ukraine and the current war. How can any Wikipedian object to that? Cullen328 ( talk) 04:30, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
We stand with Ukraine
germane to the goal of building an encyclopedia, then please explain how blanket declaration of support for one side in armed conflict is
germane to the goal of building an encyclopedia. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 19:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
against the goals of building an encyclopedia.
BrownHairedGirl, this harping on "Americans, Americans, Americans" is not at all helpful because the governments of a large majority of the world's nations have called this Russsian invasion aggressive and unlawful, and the vast majority of the reliable sources frequently cited on Wikipedia and published in countries all over the world with foreign policy expertise say the exact same thing. The main sources defending the Russian invasion have been determined to be unreliable long before this war broke out a little over a month ago. This is not an "American" issue and the countries to the immediate west of Russia are demonstrably more alarmed than Americans are. Cullen328 ( talk) 06:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC) ( contribs) 05:46, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
applies to usernames, articles, drafts, categories, files, talk page discussions, templates, and user pages, none of which describes the Signpost. Stretching that policy to cover the extremely anodyne editorial currently being argued over would also require the deletion of many — I daresay most — essays on this website. XOR'easter ( talk) 05:17, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
On real-world issues, the Signpost should uphold NPOV, just as it applies to articles. Otherwise the Signpost becomes a soapbox, as it did in this case, contrary to WP:SOAPBOX.I am taking that at face value. NPOV applies even when there is no
partisan political stanceinvolved, so the only conclusion I can draw is that, accepting your premise, the Signpost can never take a position in any editorial, whether or not there's a war afoot. XOR'easter ( talk) 05:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
neutral enough to not be an issue in the long term. I think that's one possibly viable reading of the community's assessment.
They have been careful to limit their editorial to discussing the impacts of the war on Wikipedia rather than diving into political tangentsis blatantly untrue. If it were true, this discussion would not be happening. The editorial explicitly dives into political tangents. The only information about the war's affect on Wikipedia is that editors are updating relevant pages. CMD ( talk) 16:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
We stand in solidarity with Israel, would that be okay? Where is the line drawn? Some1 ( talk) 23:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
an insufferable social justice soapboxuses the terminology of the political right in the USA, commonly used to attack social movements such as BLM and LGBT rights.
free and open societiesis a propaganda term which is commonly used by propagandists to include the most imprisoned society on earth in which the Black Lives Matter movement protests what they see as systematic repression; those two facts alone are enough to show that the world is more complex than your crude division of the world into free and notfree.
Explain (what you perceive to be) the truth or reality of a current or historical political, religious, or moral issue... which is what the Signpost editorial did.
The above are just some examples of journalistic standards. Most legitimate news publications have them.
There are several different types of newspaper articles:
- News articles - these are found at the front of a newspaper. They inform readers about things that are happening in the world or in the local area. They will be full of facts, like names, dates and places.
- Feature articles - these explore news stories in more depth. The purpose of a feature is not just to tell you what has happened, but to explore or analyse the reasons why. These kind of pieces normally name the writer who wrote them - a byline.
- Editorials, columns and opinion pieces - these are pieces by 'personality' writers. They might be there to inform (because the writer's expert opinion is valued), or they might be there to entertain (because the writer has a comic or interesting way of describing everyday life). They are likely to have a more personal style that the writer regularly uses when writing - this could be shown through particular vocabulary or the opinion of the writer.
I don't care if the signpost wants to run an editorial, or opinion piece. Just make it clear.
The link above lists types of articles, I think this could be a decent place to start for denoting the type of an article. (Though perhaps more categories than we need.) - jc37 05:07, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
posting essays about their views on world affairs? Shift the goalposts much? –– FormalDude talk 22:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
is a monthly community magazine written and edited by users like youmay not be enough to clarify it is not a publication endorsed by the whole community or an offical publication for it? I remember as a new editor (in the olde days of 6 months ago) I genuinely thought the Signpost was official even after reading all these sections. I can't see further clarity on that point not helping. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 16:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
attacked by a genocidal despot, and your view is clearly in a large majority. I personally share that view.
abject evilof American waterboarding, or British "enhanced interrogation" in Northern Ireland or the genocide of native Americans or Burmese persecution of the Rohinga?
That you can't discern it, refuse to discern it, or espouse extreme neutralism in the face of abject evil does not mean that others, including Signpost editors, are not allowed to have a viewpoint on anything.
abject evilat each item on a list of great wrongs I throw at you. As a historian, I could keep that list running for days. And with a few stiff drinks and some drama training I might even be able to emulate some of the rage-filled aggression and tunnel vision which you have displayed here.
abject evilis to
think Russia is in the right. That is a particularly crass and nasty instance of the logical fallacy known as false dilemma. It is false because it excludes any other alternative views; and it is nasty because it is designed to imply that anyone who disagrees with Headbomb backs a war of aggression. As with any dispute, there are many logically possible stances apart from these two wild extremes ... and there are also many editors who want project pages to be used to build the encyclopedia rather than have them used as a venue for the repeated smear tactics of an editor whose aggression is matched by a hyperbolically Manichean worldview. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 08:59, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
"that we apply the same criteria in all cases"has not been your argument. You have continued to oppose showing support for Ukraine in the name of NPOV as your primary point. My point is that this isn't a NPOV issue, this is a human rights issue. And I understand there is a difference between simply advocating against the actions themselves instead of the governments that carry them out as a matter of policy, and a difference between advocating against those actions and other actions of that government. But this is all one larger topic, not separate issues. The Russian government is seemingly enacting a policy of enforced compliance with their line of information, specifically related to their invasion of Ukraine. And if your argument here is to pursue a line of greater nuance in how we present support for Ukraine and opposition to the Russian government, I am all for it. But that is not what you've been arguing outside of this. You have been arguing for a blanket ban on taking any side. Which, as I somewhat mentioned earlier, is itself taking a side. Vermont ( talk) 00:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
"That includes human rights issues, because many of those issues are disputed"told me all I needed to know. Vermont ( talk) 22:38, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
the work of building encyclopedic coverage of the war, and the difficulties faced by Wikipedians who have been caught up in the conflict in whatever way; I believe the below sentences in the editorial may be of interest.
People are coming to the Wikimedia projects to learn facts, and Wikimedians around the world are collaborating to share their knowledge. Contributors are helping however they can, from documenting the crisis in over 100 languages, to ensuring that coverage of Ukraine and Russia-related articles is thorough, to assisting other users who need support.
We are also working to document and unearth as much as we can about the war and those affected, publishing reports on disinformation, spotlighting the voices of Ukrainians impacted, featuring the rich history of Ukraine, and much more.
the difficulties faced by Wikipedians who have been caught up in the conflict in whatever way, the "Disinformation report" with information on disinformation in Wikipedia regarding conflict-related articles... and the list goes on. Respectfully, I believe that the Signpost has covered appropriately the relation between our encyclopedic content and the Russo-Ukrainian War, and I would appreciate if this coverage would be considered in the evaluation of the Signpost currently undergoing here. Please let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 23:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
expresses the opinion of an author usually not affiliated with the publication's editorial board., but instead this piece is an editorial, intended to express the opinion of the editorial board. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 23:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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I started a thread in August of last year about how
YouTube Music steals Wikipedia content without attribution.
[1] Anyways pretty much nothing has happened since then and they're still just stealing our content because copyleft is a joke now. I'm wondering what we could do on our end. For one, I'm thinking of listing YouTube Music at mirrors and forks. I haven't written any music artist ledes, but should I rewrite one so I can send a DMCA or something? Can I even send a DMCA if it isn't UGC? Are these bios UGC? Who knows.
But on another note, a WMF person told us they'd reach out to Google. Supposedly they have contacts there. Yet nothing happened. What does that say about the WMF's relationship with Google that even they can't get something done? Why are we giving money (I've donated hundreds but likely not again) to the WMF to make "partnerships" with Google
[2] if that partnership is so evidently useless? There's 11 people on the partnerships team.
[3] 11 people! Their entire job is to maintain so-called "partnerships" with organizations like Google, and obviously especially Google since it's their top listed "partner". What are they doing all day when they can't use this partnership to advocate on behalf of enwiki? I wonder if a member of the Partnerships team can explain what they're doing or not doing. Because if they reached out with their "contacts" and Google just didn't care that's one thing, but if they're not bothering to try that's another.
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Please remove sentence 'For Sunnis, the crossing of the Red Sea by Moses occurred on this day.' from article Islamic calendar#Notable dates because sea cannot be crossed on foot by anyone. -- 5.43.74.120 ( talk) 23:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
In the article Dorothy Kilgallan, I added information on her appearances as herself and as a fictional character in 3 novels by Max Allan Collins. My footnote covered all the facts in the list. It was replaced by a footnote that only covers 1 of the three. Why? Wis2fan ( talk) 05:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
I’m sorry, I don’t know how to do those two things. I’m learning as I go along. But I don’t understand, why is it not sufficient for a author himself to say I based x on y? Also, on my iPad I can no longer access the base page to edit. I can edit text but italics show as italics and footnotes as numbers, not code and text. Do you know why? Anyway, thanks for being patient with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wis2fan ( talk • contribs) 20:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
The confusion was caused by me, I used the italic code instead of " for the chapter title. Mea culpa. Thanks for all the advice. I also forgot to sign my question. I do that, too. Wis2fan ( talk) 21:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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I was looking at English Wikipedia, and I was puzzled it did not provide a breakdown by nationality for our international community. Presumably, the biggest group of English Wikipedia editors is American, but do we have any hard numbers? The old ~2010 survey concerned the entire Wikimedia Community (see Wikipedia:Wikipedians back then 20% of the Wikimedia community was American), and didn't provide a breakdown by project. We have a pagrviews breakdown which can be used as a form of a proxy assuming that views correlate with the level of contributions (which they do, but not ideally; anyway, link is [5], data is from 2018, please let me know if we have a new, more up to date version of this). We also have the Category:Wikipedians by ethnicity and nationality, but I am not sure how to easily visualize the data or even get a simple count in for a spreadsheet to make a graph. Anything better? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:10, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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As someone who just recently started editing again about about a year, I noticed something peculiar: I noticed the number of administrators on the English Wikipedia has went down by almost 200 from when I last noticed (which is approximately 1/6th from the about 1200 I remember.) I'm just curious ... was there any particular event that caused such a massive drop in administrators? Steel1943 ( talk) 20:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I've started a "Request for Comment" (RfC) on Meta for globally banning Niveles and his socks. As at least one of the accounts has edited on this project, I had to notify you. The discussion will be held at m:Requests for comment/Global ban for Niveles and socks. Thank you. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 18:05, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
The Community Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is supporting the creation of a global, community-driven Leadership Development Task Force. The purpose of the task force is to advise leadership development work.
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The last patent for MPEG-2 format expired four years ago, yet not one such non-free file has been found. If everyone is already aware of the patent expiration, then why do I see mpg files stored in Commons and not Wikipedia? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:32, 10 February 2022 (UTC); edited, 08:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I have started a Request for Comment about whether the "Confederate States of America" article should use the terms "slaves" / "African slaves" or should use the terms "enslaved people" / "enslaved Africans". This question also applies to other articles. Interested editors are encouraged to comment at Talk:Confederate States of America#Request for comment: "slaves" vs. "enslaved people" (and not here, to keep the discussion all in one place). Thanks. — Mudwater ( Talk) 01:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Once you've created a lot of Wikipedia articles, it is useful to have some insights about them. How many biographies? How many articles about buildings? How many articles in the US? Using Wikidata and Xtools Created pages tool, I've build a small tool which analyse your list of created pages : https://observablehq.com/@pac02/look-at-your-list-of-created-articles-through-wikidata. I've a similar tool focused on gender : https://observablehq.com/@pac02/user-level-gender-statistics-for-wikipedia?collection=@pac02/pages-created. Your feedback is welcome. PAC2 ( talk) 21:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, I am a
Wikipedian from the
Chinese Wikipedia. Chinese Wikipedia, when the community is just created, applied a lot of English Wikipedia policies. Nowadays, for
some reasons, the Chinese Wikipedian Community is having a lot of differences from the English one, thus a lot of policies is no longer suit the Chinese Wikipedian Community. For example, some Wikipedians are thinking of "Why
RFA/
RFB uses a voting system while other roles (for example,
Rollbackers) uses a simple
consensus system?"
However,
Jimbo Wales said that sysop is just like normal Wikipedians:
So, why does RFA/RFB use a voting system, that's different from the other roles? Wiki Emoji | [[User:Emojiwiki| Talk~~ 11:26, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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What, if anything, do you do when you notice an IP who is clearly not a newbie?
No particular "incident" for AN here, but clearly 94.252.4.105 ( talk · contribs) has hit the ground running starting yesterday, and is familiar with categorization ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5), finding and adding articles to "See also" ( 6, 7, 8, 9), retargeting redirects ( 10) and the details of Image syntax ( 11). It's safe to say they've edited before. (In addition, there is an active page block on range 94.252.0.0/17 placed on 6 February by Ohnoitsjamie.)
At first glance, their edits (at least at this IP) seem consistently beneficial. I left them a standard IP welcome message which includes an invitation to WP:REGISTER, but other than that, is there anything to do or note here? Mathglot ( talk) 22:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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A number of global users may have been erroneously indefinitely blocked at the Indonesian Wikipedia by Stephensuleeman in 2014, who has sadly since passed away, for "invalid username." Examples of this include 8ty3hree (my former username) and Surv1v4l1st. I requested id-wiki admin User:Bennylin to request an unblock and he confirmed that the block was in error. "Surv1v4l1st" may be an exception, as id-wiki proscribes substituting numbers for similar-looking letters as in 1ove or he11o. However, I do not feel it was necessary to preemptively block global users who have never edited the Indonesian Wikipedia and do not know the vagaries of id-wiki's username policy. I do not know of any other language Wikimedia projects that have done this, as my global account was never blocked on the 104 other projects there. Additionally, having a single block for a language globally is very problematic, for example at Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, which requires users blocked on any project to manually request an exemption. Ideally I would have put this at a noticeboard for id-wiki admins but I do not speak Indonesian, and while many of those editors may speak English, it involves other languages outside the two as well. 93 ( talk) 01:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi... I am recently open up RfC on the usage of image2 parameter on infobox in Talk:Belize Defence Force#RFC on usage of image2 parameter on infobox. I have notify related Wikiproject, but since it was low traffic article in the beginning with, barely any comment there.... So, perhaps by posting it here... we can have more input. Your comments would be welcome. Ckfasdf ( talk) 05:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
"The Hidden Image Descriptions Making the Internet Accessible". nytimes.com. Retrieved 19 February 2022. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:05, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
It would be helpful to have a picture of the actual work on the Murder in Mississippi (painting) article. Most of Rockwell's art articles have a picture, but that one does not, for whatever reason. However, I am not sure on the copyright mechanics, et al., on adding this. Any assistance would be great. Thanks. --Surv1v4l1st ╠ Talk║ Contribs╣ 00:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I know this has been discussed previously without any real resolution, but a single-purpose account that's been going from one article to the next adding lots of criticism has raised my concern that there's a serious NPOV and UNDUE problem with them. Even if the language is toned down (e.g. a section header in the Netflix article labeled "DVD spinoff disaster"), we're left with a one-sided litany of Reasons Why This Thing Is Bad. Criticism of The Walt Disney Company, for example, is basically a bitchfest about the company, almost as large as the article about the company itself: essentially a POV fork. There's one article that talks about the company neutrally, and another that tells you everything people don't like about the company. That isn't NPOV. These sections/articles then act as magnets for WP:ADVOCACY and WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 16:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi! I looked through a PhD thesis ( seen here) that describes the workings of the Draft:American Embassy School in detail. I cannot find a specific statement from the author which explains why they chose the school as their case study, but do you think the thesis bolsters the school's notability anyway? WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I can see that spin-off films are included in the lists of film series in the List of feature film series with (number) entries articles. I don't think it's actually correct, as spin-off films are not a part of the film series, but a separate film in the same franchise as the film series. So I think we should either remove every spin-off films from these lists in these articles or rename the articles where the word series is replaced with the word franchise. What is the most correct thing to do here? Karamellpudding1999 ( talk) 09:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I stumbled onto Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Autism#Please update symbolism and language. Est. 2021 ( talk · contribs) 18:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
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Greetings from Wiki Loves Folklore International Team,
We are pleased to inform you that Wiki Loves Folklore an international photographic contest on Wikimedia Commons has been extended till the 15th of March 2022. The scope of the contest is focused on folk culture of different regions on categories, such as, but not limited to, folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, etc.
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(Chinese)各位好,我在许多条目中发现了一些原创的地域名称,例如指代云南的“Diantnam”(不列滇)和“Great Diantnam”(大不列滇),指代四川的“Basuria”(巴蜀利亚)。但是我查遍整个中文互联网,在推特和Medium之外没有见到任何来源。我想知道“Diantnam”(不列滇)、"Great Diantnam"(大不列滇)“Basuria”(巴蜀利亚)这种名称是否有可靠参考来源,是否并非原创研究,以及是否需要继续保留在条目里?
据我自己所知。这些名称应当属于原创研究,他们非常的古怪,明显是生造的。例如“Diantnam”这个名称,看起来是“滇南”(意思是“云南的南部”),但是其中的“dian”来自汉语拼音“滇”,tnam的来源却是一个问题。依照汉语拼音“南”应该写作“nan”,依照古汉语发音应该是“nam”,可是“t”是哪里来的?这个“Diantnam”是不是来源于某位用户自己发明的汉语转写方案?还是说“tnam”其实是来源于越南的名称“Vietnam”?而且据我所知,云南也从来没有“滇南”之称,“滇南”只是指云南的南部,类似于“鲁南”、“苏南”这些称呼。
在谷歌上搜索,会发现发明了“Diantnam”一词的网友也发明了一个对应的中文词汇“不列滇”,“不列滇”和“大不列滇”一词是对“不列颠”和“大不列颠”的拙劣模仿,我最初以为这个词完全是网友开玩笑的,直到我在维基共享资源和维基百科上发现这个名称。
所谓“Basuria”一词中的“ria”是哪里来的?我认为“ria”一词来自欧洲语言的词根,这显然是生编乱造的。
需要注意的是,确实有一群人长期活跃在各个维基百科版本上,并持之以恒地给中国的地区或者语言起新的名字,亦或者上传自己虚构的旗帜。原创研究的地名的例子有“Yuyencia”“Diantnam”“Basuria”。原创研究的语言的例子有有人给大连话起名“青丘话”、给胶辽官话起名“齐语”、“东齐语”、“莱语”;给冀鲁官话起名“鲁语”;创造了一个新概念“燕语”,所谓的“燕语”包括北京官话、部分东北官话和部分胶辽官话。关于“燕语”的说法完整存在于所谓“Yuyencia”的官方网站上(见yuyencia.org)。毫无疑问,这些跨维基的原创研究是同一批人干的。
我曾经试图在多个维基上清除这些内容,在除了粤语维基百科之外的维基百科上都取得了成功。粤语维基的一些编辑者认为我清除原创研究和无来源内容的行为属于“政治审查”,基本上我每一笔编辑被回退了。根据我在粤语维基百科上的经验,维基百科社群是不允许私自移除原创研究内容的。因此我发布在这里,希望社群能够达成一个关于“Basuria”和“Diantnam”的共识。我期望英语维基百科也能够移除错误内容,从而保卫社群社群的价值观,捍卫百科全书的价值。
(English by Google Translate) Hello everyone, I found some original regional names in many articles, such as "Diantnam" (不列滇)and "The Great Diantnam"(大不列滇) referring to Yunnan and "Basuria"(巴蜀利亚) referring to Sichuan. But I checked the Chinese Internet and found no source except on Twitter and BBS. I want to know whether the names "Diantnam", "great Diantnam" and "Basuria" have reliable reference sources, whether they are not original research, and whether they need to continue to be kept in the articles?
As far as I know. These names should belong to original research. They are very strange and obviously made up. For example, the name "Diantnam" looks like “滇南” (meaning "Southern Yunnan"), but the "dian" in it comes from the Chinese pinyin "dian"(滇), and the source of "tnam" is a problem. According to the Chinese Pinyin, "南" should be written as "nan", according to the middle Chinese pronunciation should be "nam", but where does "t" come from? Does this "Diantnam" come from a Chinese transcription scheme invented by a wikipedia user? Or is "tnam" actually derived from "Vietnam"? And as far as I know, Yunnan has never been called "Diannan"(滇南). "Diannan" only refers to the south of Yunnan, similar to the terms "鲁南" (Lunan, Southern Shandong) and "苏南" (Sunan, Southern Jiangsu).
When you search on Google, you will find that the netizen who invented the word "Diantnam" also invented a corresponding Chinese word "Buliedian"(不列滇), "Buliedian" and "Da Buliedian"(大不列滇), which are a poor imitation of "Britain" and "Great Britain"(Britain in Chinese is " 不列颠"). At first, I thought this word was completely joked by netizens until I found this name on wikicommons and Wikipedia.
Where does the "-ria" in the "Basuria" come from? I think the "-ria" comes from European languages. This name is obviously fictional.
It should be noted that there are indeed a group of people who have been active in various Wikipedia versions for a long time, and constantly give new names to Chinese regions or languages, or upload their fictional flags. Examples of original regional names of regions are "Yuyencia", "Diantnam" and "Basuria". Examples of the language are that some people named Dalian dialect to "Qingqiu dialect" or "Qingqiu Language" and Jiaoliao Mandarin to "Qi language", "Dongqi language" and "Lai language"; Name the Jilu Mandarin to "Lu language"; Created a new concept "Yan language". The so-called "Yan language" includes Beijing Mandarin, some Northeast Mandarin and some Jiaoliao Mandarin. The statement of "Yan language" completely exists on the official website of the so-called "Yuyencia"(See [8]). There is no doubt that the original research across wikis was done by the same group.
I have tried to clear these contents on several wikis and have been successful on many Wikipedia sites except Cantonese Wikipedia. Some editors on Cantonese Wikipedia think that my act of eliminating original research and non sourced content is "political censorship", and almost every edit of me has been backed down. According to my experience on Cantonese Wikipedia, the Wikipedia community is not allowed to remove the original research content without permission. Therefore, I post here in the hope that the community can reach a consensus on "Basuria" and "Diantnam". I hope English Wikipedia can eliminate these errors, and defend the values of community and encyclopedia.-- Eguersi ( talk) 10:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Maryana Iskander, the new CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation, is inviting your comments about puzzles within our movement as well as trends in the broader world that impact the work of the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia movement. Feedback is welcome here and on the Meta-Wiki talk pages through March 4. In April, the Foundation will also host community conversations on the draft focus areas for our upcoming annual plan. -- KStineRowe (WMF) ( talk) 18:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
There are thousands of news articles from reliable sources containing the term "loneliness epidemic", including government agencies in both the United States and the United Kingdom. This has been "a thing" mentioned in the media since well before covid. Might this be notable enough for its own article separate from loneliness and social isolation, as its own historical event? MarshallKe ( talk) 15:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I use Wikipedia almost daily. It is a great resource and I want to donate to Wikipedia. But when I try to donate online, inexplicably I am REQUIRED to give my email. Why the f#ck do you need my email. I'm willing to give my credit card because that is nessary to make a donation, but there NO legitimate necessity that you have my email for me to make a donation. If you remove this unnecessary intrusion to my privacy on you donation site, I'll donate, but not until that happens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1014:B064:E039:0:56:B1D3:6101 ( talk) 22:47, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, dear Wikipedians!
Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and
Ukrainian Institute, has launched the second edition of writing challenge "
Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 17 February to 17 March 2022. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that made a contribution to world culture. The most active contesters will receive
prizes.
We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! -- ValentynNefedov (WMUA) ( talk) 08:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Iranians have started blocking Wikipedia mobile Corp of Iran, TCE,fixed line or data. bi ( talk) 10:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi all,
I'm an undergraduate currently doing a senior capstone in rhetoric and political science; as part of this project, I'm researching what hints a state actor may leave, in particular on a platform like Wikipedia. Accordingly, I'd like to examine cases where state actors have edited Wikipedia articles, especially without disclosing the obvious conflict of interest. I'm also interested in other forms of confirmed non-organic Wikipedia editing (e.g., edits made by Congressional aides, edits made by the subject of the article themselves, etc.). What are some particularly notable cases (especially ones that are well-documented, i.e. have received news coverage or been acknowledged by the government/other actor who made the non-organic edit)? I appreciate any help you can offer! 2604:2800:0:8B9E:8DF:B89B:E335:2B0 ( talk) 19:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
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FelixAnon ( talk) 16:14, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey all - as a follow-up to #Call for Feedback about the Board of Trustees elections is now open: the call is now closed and reports are available for review. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 03:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
The Call for Feedback: Board of Trustees elections is now closed. This Call ran from 10 January and closed on 16 February 2022. The Call focused on three key questions and received broad discussion on Meta-wiki, during meetings with affiliates, and in various community conversations. The community and affiliates provided many proposals and discussion points. The reports are on Meta-wiki.
This information will be shared with the Board of Trustees and Elections Committee so they can make informed decisions about the upcoming Board of Trustees election. The Board of Trustees will then follow with an announcement after they have discussed the information.
Thank you to everyone who participated in the Call for Feedback to help improve Board election processes.
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Xeno (WMF) (
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I got an email from a long-term (2007), very active (100,000+) editor here. He says he had to delete some information from his phone and accidentally deleted his WP password. I guess he can't remember it. Is there any way to do what commercial operations do, namely email him a temporary password so he can log in and get things back set up? I don't know if WP keeps a record of our emails at all, so maybe this is not possible? Any advice, from people more savvy than me, would be very welcome. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:46, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
This is interesting (inspired by Pyb's post at Wikipedia Weekly FB group):
More stats here. Mathglot ( talk) 07:36, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I apologize if this isn't the place to put this question, I couldn't seem to find a better place.
I've noticed that when admins block vandals, they often do it for 31 hours. Why specifically 31 hours? It just seems like an odd number. InterstateFive ( talk) - just another roadgeek 19:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
:)
See also
quarry:query/60552, showing the very first one. (AFAICT, SlimVirgin's 31-hour blocks in July of '05 were just coincidental, so it's Magister Mathematicae's a few months later that kicked it off.) --
Tamzin
cetacean needed (she/they) 20:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)Hello everyone,
The ratification voting process for the revised enforcement guidelines of the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) is now open! Voting commenced on SecurePoll on 7 March 2022 and will conclude on 21 March 2022. Please read more on the voter information and eligibility details.
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MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 10:22, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey all - I'm including below an invitation to the upcoming Saturday 12 March Global Conversation about Hubs, which are being explored as a way to help coordinate support for communities. Please see more details below.
Hello!
The Movement Strategy and Governance team of the Wikimedia Foundation would like to invite you to the next event about "Regional and Thematic Hubs". The Wikimedia Movement is in the process of understanding what Regional and Thematic Hubs should be. Our workshop in November was a good start ( read the report), but we're not finished yet.
Over the last weeks we conducted about 16 interviews with groups working on establishing a Hub in their context ( see Hubs Dialogue). These interviews informed a report that will serve as a foundation for discussion on March 12. The report is planned to be published on March 9.
The event will take place on March 12, 13:00 to 16:00 UTC on Zoom. Interpretation will be provided in French, Spanish, Arabic, Russian, and Portuguese. Registration is open, and will close on March 10. Anyone interested in the topic is invited to join us. More information on the event on Meta-wiki.
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Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 17:31, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Just to give an example from my watchlist: This is what I had to do in order to make the article compliant with our policies. The information is arguably credible (I did not attempt to look for more sources), but the two sources added to the article are (i) partisan from the same side and (ii) do not even make an attempt to verify the info, instead citing social media belonging to some newsmakers. Note that at least one of the sources is RS, and the second one looks more or less fine. I could have reverted, I have chosen to attribute the opinions instead. This is now massively happening across hundreds of articles. There is probably very little we can do about it, since Russian reporting is clearly just a lie and should not be added in any case, and people take Ukrainian reporting subcritically and still want to add into into articles. But it is something to have in mind, that we are now full of badly sourced partisan info. As I said elsewhere, the Russian invasion should motivate us to add high-quality info to our articles but is not an excuse to lowering our standards.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 11:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm basically looking for a centralised tree of knowledge, where you can collaborate with the public to construct mind-maps within each topic
As with Wiki pages - lots of hyperlinks, anyone can edit the articles.
However, wikipedia presents information as long passages of text. Often it is easier to present information as a logical flowchart or mind map, rather than as passages of text.
I'm familiar with the existance of specific 'wiki' sites, however that is not what I mean. I'm looking for a site containing "mind maps", rather than passages of text (as you see in a traditional wikipedia article)
I'm looking for a site which allows crowdsourced contributions to a universal "mind map"
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Vitreology ( talk) 07:08, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
My article, Stepan (cat), created on March 3, has not yet been reviewed. ✍A.WagnerC ( talk) 03:37, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
I wish to make an anonymous factual addition to an article, based on first hand experience, and this is the only hope I can find to achieve this. The facts are easily verified. The Article refers to Chester Seabury, who broke the educational color barrier in the State of Florida (which is correctly stated in the article about him). The following is first hand knowledge: Chester also broke the color barrier another way while at Stranahan, by singing in the boys chorus, which, under the direction of Peggy Barber, won multiple competitions including the Florida State 'Boys Chorus Competition' in Daytona. Participation required that Chet room in an all-white hotel with three other members of the chorus, who were white... Submitted anonymously by a fellow member of the chorus. Hopefully, this method will work and the article will be amended. MPC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:143:580:4CA0:D580:F190:3B29:87EB ( talk) 03:52, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
International photographic contest Wiki Loves Folklore 2022 ends on 15th March 2022 23:59:59 UTC. This is the last chance of the year to upload images about local folk culture, festival, cuisine, costume, folklore etc on Wikimedia Commons. Watch out our social media handles for regular updates and declaration of Winners.
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The writing competition Feminism and Folklore will run till 31st of March 2022 23:59:59 UTC. Write about your local folk tradition, women, folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, folklore, and tradition, including ballads, folktales, fairy tales, legends, traditional song and dance, folk plays, games, seasonal events, calendar customs, folk arts, folk religion, mythology etc. on your local Wikipedia. Check if your local Wikipedia is participating
A special competition called Wiki Loves Falles is organised in Spain and the world during 15th March 2022 till 15th April 2022 to document local folk culture and Falles in Valencia, Spain. Learn more about it on Catalan Wikipedia project page.
We look forward for your immense co-operation.
Thanks Wiki Loves Folklore international Team MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:40, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, following the call for feedback last month for the Leadership Development Working Group, I would like to share the summary of input (note the terminology change to Working Group) along with an invitation to apply. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 01:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
Thank you to everyone who participated in the feedback period for the Leadership Development Working Group initiative. A summary of the feedback can be found on Meta-wiki. This feedback will be shared with the working group to inform their work. The application period to join the Working Group is now open and will close on April 10, 2022. Please review the information about the working group, share with community members who might be interested, and apply if you are interested.
Thank you,
From the Community Development team
Let me know if you have questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 01:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
can anyone please find a pre-2006 source confirming that Nelumbo nucifera is referred to as such? RZuo ( talk) 11:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
I apologize if this is the wrong place for this. If it is, please tell me where it should go.
I've learned that Shane Warne was a legendary cricket player, but does his death really deserve to be the top news story on the front page for an entire week? There's a major war going on right now, that has the potential to become much much worse.
Is Warne's story likely to be updated anytime soon? Was there anything suspicious about it? I'm not trying to belittle the death of someone who was very widely beloved and admired, but there are large portions of the world that know little or nothing about cricket. I myself (I'm American) know very little about it. I wouldn't expect the death of an American athlete to completely monopolize the news at the beginning of an international crisis. -- JDspeeder1 ( talk) 07:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
The Ukrainian president is much in the news, and various spellings are used by reliable sources. Your feedback would be appreciated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine#Zelensky or Zelenskyy. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 07:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
When I was finding the origin of speedy deletion, I found no discussions about why this has to be set up. So, where are the discussions? Wiki Emoji | Emojiwiki Talk~~ 23:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I've been a bit hesitant to bring this up since it might exacerbate the issue I'm having, but when I first made my user page on Wikipedia in 2015, I included a lot of personal information about myself. Although I have long since removed the info from my user page, it still shows up in my user page history.
I was wondering if an admin could remove the earlier revisions containing my personal info, as I do have a lot of privacy concerns regarding this. Thanks!
-- Dtale1984 ( talk) 16:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Many editors, myself included, have spent a lot of time trying to make consistent the articles listing the cities, towns, villages, etc. of every state in the country (and of various other political entities around the world). One question has come up several times: how do we define "municipality"? We've settled on Lists of municipalities as a catch-all so we don't end up with separate lists for villages and cities in a state where the only legal difference is an arbitrary population cutoff. However, to that end we've been using "municipality" to mean "incorporated municipality", so as to exclude (and list separately) CDPs, civil townships, and the like. There seems to be a lot of agreement that this is good: we should list incorporated cities, towns, and villages, etc. separately from unincorporated CDPs and townships.
However, another possible definition of "municipality" is "a single administrative division having corporate status and powers of self-government or jurisdiction". One example of where this gets fuzzy is Michigan: Michigan only has two kinds of incorporated municipalities – cities and villages – but its unincorporated townships do have powers of self-government, and its unincorporated charter townships have even more self-government or jurisdiction. So should these be listed in a List of municipalities in Michigan? In other cases (see Wisconsin and South Dakota, both of which are still awaiting a merge) there is a consensus not to include civil townships, even if they have limited self-government.
As a further example, Vermont has 5 unincorporated towns, which are otherwise equivalent to the rest of the state's towns. Should these five towns be excluded from the list of municipalities because they aren't incorporated? If so, then shouldn't Michigan's townships be excluded from their list of municipalities? Is consistency even that important? Dylanvt ( talk) 02:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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Here [9] is the withdrawn Wikipedia page deletion request. Please, close this request. Thank you - -- Ooligan ( talk) 00:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Apologies for cross-posting this, I wanted to make sure that as many people as possible knew this was going to happen, so people aren't surprised when it appears.
Starting the week of 28 March 2022, the Wikimedia Foundation will conduct a quarterly anonymous survey about safety perceptions among the English Wikipedia community members.
This survey responds to a Universal Code of Conduct community recommendation, and we encourage you to participate.
There are more details about the survey on the project page, and you can also leave comments.
Best regards, Community Safety Survey team –– STei (WMF) ( talk) 21:25, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Just wondering if any of you have seen this new front page article, it’s pretty concerning. https://theintercept.com/2022/03/21/missouri-senator-steven-roberts-wikipedia/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfecnot ( talk • contribs) 12:24, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
On this page I discovered a logo combined the coat of arms of Ukraine and four fleurs-de-lis, who know about that? -- Great Brightstar ( talk) 17:28, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
The Community Resilience and Sustainability team at the Wikimedia Foundation is hosting a conversation hour led by its Vice President Maggie Dennis.
Topics within scope for this call include Movement Strategy, Board Governance, Trust and Safety, the Universal Code of Conduct, Community Development, and Human Rights. Come with your questions and feedback, and let's talk! You can also send us your questions in advance.
The meeting will be on 24 March 2022 at 15:00 UTC ( check your local time).
You can read details on Meta-wiki. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 02:48, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
What happened to our talk page button? It displays the text ‘Fa tiban ka ho’! I hope someone fixes this. ·~ dictátor· mundꟾ 10:56, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
See heading. MarshallKe ( talk) 00:07, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
In reading about Ursula von der Leyen, I did a double-take on finding a linked article named Hannover Medical School. "Hannover" is the German spelling of the city known in English as "Hanover". Does it make any sense for the English language WP to name an article partly in German and partly in English? This would be like naming an article Bayerisch football derbies or whatever, in the many articles about Bavarian entities.
The opening of the article says "The Hannover Medical School ( German: Medizinische Hochschule Hannover ... is a university medical centre in the city of Hanover, in Germany, part of a regional medical network," and thereafter in the text the German spelling Hannover is consistently used. The talk page contains only one untitled, undated and unsigned [2007, anon IP] entry; and most edits to the article are made by either IPs or bots, with no named active user having made more than a single edit. Thus there's really no one to ask or discuss the question with.
I try to limit my own edits mostly to spelling, grammar, and adding links where it seems useful, or occasionally rephrasing a confusing sentence. In any event I'm not about to repeat my tyro mistake of moving an article - although if someone else agrees and moves it from "Hannover" to "Hanover", I would happily change the spellings in the text. Milkunderwood ( talk) 01:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey, if you don't watch the technical section you may accidentally ignore an important message you perhaps would prefer not to ignore, so this is like a redirect within the VP to increase the visibility.
I'm writing on behalf of a Wikimedia Foundation team working on the new desktop interface. We're building the last features now. In a few months, we'll complete the project. We've prepared the last (fourth) prototype with improvements to the sidebar and page tools menu (aka More menu). This prototype is for you to check out and share feedback. On Tuesday, March 29, 19:00 18:00 UTC, we're having a meeting for anyone interested in the project. Read more on VP (technical) and see you on Tuesday.
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Greetings,
Adequate and nuanced overview for even non– Muslim audience is expected out of the articles Muslims and Muslim world. Whether the articles are achieving that purpose adequately? Requesting and expecting proactive participation in providing inputs from non–Muslim audience too along with Muslim users.
Since the article Muslim world is tagged various improvements it can not be submitted to formal review process still I feel the article deserves more inputs for content improvement.
Requesting your visit to the articles
Thanks
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 06:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Feminism and Folklore 2022 which is an international writing contest organized at Wikipedia ends soon that is on 31 March 2022 11:59 UTC. This is the last chance of the year to write about feminism, women biographies and gender-focused topics such as folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, fairy tales, folk plays, folk arts, folk religion, mythology, folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales and more
Keep an eye on the project page for declaration of Winners.
We look forward for your immense co-operation.
Thanks Wiki Loves Folklore international Team MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Prompted by an RfC discussion at the BRD discussion page.
This is about content or substance edits, not proofing or html-publishing-related edits. 50.74.109.2 ( talk) 13:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Bold editing is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia. All editors are welcome to make positive contributions. It's how new information is added to Wikipedia. When in doubt, edit! Either the edit will get the attention of interested editors, or you will simply improve the page. Either is a good outcome.StarryGrandma ( talk) 00:38, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I am trying to created Category:SafeSport. But as an IP, cannot. I tried Article Wizard, but it just send me in a circle.
Articles that might be considered for it include SafeSport for starters, and some of the articles that link to SafeSport.
A parent category might be Category:Child sexual abuse in the United States. Also Category:Sexual assaults in the United States and Category:United States at the Olympics.
Can someone perhaps help and start it for me?
Thanks! -- 2603:7000:2143:8500:84D0:51DB:559E:8F08 ( talk) 19:55, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Any conjectures on why Talk:Speech synthesis receives a particularly large number of drive-by additions of new sections, added by single-edit IP users, that consist of gibberish or sentence fragments in Indonesian or both? I'm particularly intrigued by the ones (in Indonesian) that translate to "salaam aleikum to all bus passengers from johor bahru to malacca will be departing soon we from larkin sentral would like to wish you a happy hari raya" [10], "Ayang beautiful there is a whatsapp from my handsome" [11], "Moskona you love but how come you're so naughty" [12], "Hi adam there's a whatsapp message coming in" [13], and "the child has a whatsapp entry from the girl" [14], covering a span of more than two months. Largoplazo ( talk) 16:36, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Largoplazo I thought it was some sort of weird meme; the Indonesian version of the article was also protected due to similar spam. Talk:Twilight Sparkle and Talk:15.ai are also targets for this weird Southeast Asian spam. wizzito | say hello! 17:01, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Anyone else got the banner for a survey by Wikimedia Switzerland? Links to here, and besides not knowing why they are asking me, I also have no clue what they are going on about. Why should we care if they call it an Innolab or an Experimentation Space? Is this really something that should be put at the top of X% (all?) editors pages? Fram ( talk) 09:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Dear community members from South Africa,
I wanted to inform you that the Wikimedia Foundation fundraising campaign on Wikipedia in South Africa will be running from the 23rd of May to the 20th of June. The banners will be visible to non-logged in readers from South Africa.
Prior to the start of the banner campaign, we are planning to run some tests in April and May, so you might see banners for 3-5 hours a couple of times before the campaign starts. This activity will ensure that our technical infrastructure works. We are currently working on the messages for the banners and I will share examples with you later.
Generally, before and during the campaign, you can contact us:
Thanks you and regards,
Julia JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 07:26, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Ok, first off, please forgive me if this has already been disccussed somewhere. I did a search and didn't find much.
My concern is this: Film and television always have had a rather large overlap when it comes to "groupings". Genres, are just one example.
And on Wikipedia we group such things in categories, lists, and navboxes.
Well, with the onset of streaming, the lines have really become blurred. They are all now "filmed presentations", with the difference mainly being whether they are " episodic" or not.
We've seen the various industries try to keep them separate for things such as the Academy Awards and the Emmy Awards, but we're also starting to see the conglomerates combine such departments, for example: NBCUniversal Television and Streaming.
(And note a lot of this applies to radio as well, but that might get more "muddy". But we should probably keep that in mind.)
Now I am not proposing that we merge everything yet. As I don't think the industry is there yet (see also WP:CRYSTAL). But I do think at this point we can probably merge together all the different genre explanation pages, just for one example. Renaming them to something more neutral. And merging filmed genres (regardless of format - tv, cable, film, video, streamed, etc). The pages, categories, lists, and navboxes.
The way we have it now, there is a fair amount of duplication, as well as splitting, which is to the detriment to our readership and navigation.
So first, this thread is about proposing such mergers, and to see what all may be entailed. Perhaps a new shared workgroup amongst the affected wikiprojects?
Second, it would be nice if we had a single term for all these filmed presentations. I did a preliminary google search, but I think there are others of you who might be better at finding authoritative sources on this topic. I do want to avoid WP:NEO of course : )
I look forward to everyone's thoughts and contributions concerning this. - jc37 09:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
In a recent ANI thread, users disagreed on various issues related to the community magazine here on wiki. In light of this, various questions arise which I believe it would be beneficial for both the Signpost team, the community, and how the Signpost is portrayed in media for us to answer. Namely, these are:
General comments on how to improve the signpost or its strengths are also welcome. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 23:46, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Two points:
To answer this discussion's question, however (unlike the other 2 venues this conversation is taking place in...):
A number of users have that quote on their userpages, but I wonder how many remember the context in which TBotNL said that. I do, because I happen to have started the thread he said it in, concerning some projectspace drama du jour. TBotNL, who had been on a vacation from projectspace to focus exclusively on the article Genie (feral child), spoke in the context of what he'd learned from that experience, and how it put our petty squabbles in perspective. Well, I've been working lately on List of journalists killed during the Russo-Ukrainian War—five civilian journalists killed in the line of duty since the full-scale invasion began, two Ukrainian, three international; plus two Ukrainian journalists killed going about their daily lives. And so nine years after TBotNL said that to me, I think I now get exactly what he meant. None of this arguing goes anywhere. It's just a wild goose chase entirely independent of actually improving this encyclopedia. This one fucking Signpost editorial is now the subject of an MfD, DRV, ANI, VPM, and Signpost talk thread, and people all seem more than happy to chip in and argue. Meanwhile Template:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has multiple redlinks on it, and List of people and organizations sanctioned during the Russo-Ukrainian War, which I recently pared down to a readable condition, still needs a massive update to be brought in line with International sanctions during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Spending five minutes on improving any article in that navbox will do much more good for the world than any projectspace argument will, and hopefully will"Our work together here should be our armor, not some sharp, angry, burning sword. I would strongly recommend that everyone here find an article to work on for a while; not the cliche "random article", but something that gives you a nice tug at the heartstrings. It feels great to be out there doing work on something you genuinely care about, and I assure you it'll help you regain the sense of why you're here."
help you regain the sense of why you're here. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 02:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
nearly every item in the current edition of the Signpost is either pro-Ukrainian, anti-Russian, or both
Now I don't think this [...] is a bad thing.
encyclopedic content. That core content policy also mentions "article" and "articles" over 30 times. The policy never mentions talk pages or project space. This is in contrast to another really important policy, WP:BLP, which goes out of its way to say that it applies everywhere on Wikipedia, without exception. Clearly, this editorial cannot be in violation of NPOV because that policy does not apply to The Signpost, or any other civil, non-disruptive expressions of reasonable opinion outside of encyclopedia articles. The OP and some other editors object to the phrase "stand in solidarity" in the headline but Solidarity is described in our own article as
an awareness of shared interests, objectives, standards, and sympathies creating a psychological sense of unity of groups or classes. Wikipedia, after all, is
written and maintained by a community of volunteers through a model of open collaborationand our goal is free educational content for all of humanity, including the residents of Ukraine and Russia. The actual content of the editorial seems perfectly compatible with Wikipedia's goals, and the body of the editorial was calling for improved coverage of Russia, Ukraine and the current war. How can any Wikipedian object to that? Cullen328 ( talk) 04:30, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
We stand with Ukraine
germane to the goal of building an encyclopedia, then please explain how blanket declaration of support for one side in armed conflict is
germane to the goal of building an encyclopedia. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 19:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
against the goals of building an encyclopedia.
BrownHairedGirl, this harping on "Americans, Americans, Americans" is not at all helpful because the governments of a large majority of the world's nations have called this Russsian invasion aggressive and unlawful, and the vast majority of the reliable sources frequently cited on Wikipedia and published in countries all over the world with foreign policy expertise say the exact same thing. The main sources defending the Russian invasion have been determined to be unreliable long before this war broke out a little over a month ago. This is not an "American" issue and the countries to the immediate west of Russia are demonstrably more alarmed than Americans are. Cullen328 ( talk) 06:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC) ( contribs) 05:46, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
applies to usernames, articles, drafts, categories, files, talk page discussions, templates, and user pages, none of which describes the Signpost. Stretching that policy to cover the extremely anodyne editorial currently being argued over would also require the deletion of many — I daresay most — essays on this website. XOR'easter ( talk) 05:17, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
On real-world issues, the Signpost should uphold NPOV, just as it applies to articles. Otherwise the Signpost becomes a soapbox, as it did in this case, contrary to WP:SOAPBOX.I am taking that at face value. NPOV applies even when there is no
partisan political stanceinvolved, so the only conclusion I can draw is that, accepting your premise, the Signpost can never take a position in any editorial, whether or not there's a war afoot. XOR'easter ( talk) 05:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
neutral enough to not be an issue in the long term. I think that's one possibly viable reading of the community's assessment.
They have been careful to limit their editorial to discussing the impacts of the war on Wikipedia rather than diving into political tangentsis blatantly untrue. If it were true, this discussion would not be happening. The editorial explicitly dives into political tangents. The only information about the war's affect on Wikipedia is that editors are updating relevant pages. CMD ( talk) 16:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
We stand in solidarity with Israel, would that be okay? Where is the line drawn? Some1 ( talk) 23:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
an insufferable social justice soapboxuses the terminology of the political right in the USA, commonly used to attack social movements such as BLM and LGBT rights.
free and open societiesis a propaganda term which is commonly used by propagandists to include the most imprisoned society on earth in which the Black Lives Matter movement protests what they see as systematic repression; those two facts alone are enough to show that the world is more complex than your crude division of the world into free and notfree.
Explain (what you perceive to be) the truth or reality of a current or historical political, religious, or moral issue... which is what the Signpost editorial did.
The above are just some examples of journalistic standards. Most legitimate news publications have them.
There are several different types of newspaper articles:
- News articles - these are found at the front of a newspaper. They inform readers about things that are happening in the world or in the local area. They will be full of facts, like names, dates and places.
- Feature articles - these explore news stories in more depth. The purpose of a feature is not just to tell you what has happened, but to explore or analyse the reasons why. These kind of pieces normally name the writer who wrote them - a byline.
- Editorials, columns and opinion pieces - these are pieces by 'personality' writers. They might be there to inform (because the writer's expert opinion is valued), or they might be there to entertain (because the writer has a comic or interesting way of describing everyday life). They are likely to have a more personal style that the writer regularly uses when writing - this could be shown through particular vocabulary or the opinion of the writer.
I don't care if the signpost wants to run an editorial, or opinion piece. Just make it clear.
The link above lists types of articles, I think this could be a decent place to start for denoting the type of an article. (Though perhaps more categories than we need.) - jc37 05:07, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
posting essays about their views on world affairs? Shift the goalposts much? –– FormalDude talk 22:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
is a monthly community magazine written and edited by users like youmay not be enough to clarify it is not a publication endorsed by the whole community or an offical publication for it? I remember as a new editor (in the olde days of 6 months ago) I genuinely thought the Signpost was official even after reading all these sections. I can't see further clarity on that point not helping. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 16:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
attacked by a genocidal despot, and your view is clearly in a large majority. I personally share that view.
abject evilof American waterboarding, or British "enhanced interrogation" in Northern Ireland or the genocide of native Americans or Burmese persecution of the Rohinga?
That you can't discern it, refuse to discern it, or espouse extreme neutralism in the face of abject evil does not mean that others, including Signpost editors, are not allowed to have a viewpoint on anything.
abject evilat each item on a list of great wrongs I throw at you. As a historian, I could keep that list running for days. And with a few stiff drinks and some drama training I might even be able to emulate some of the rage-filled aggression and tunnel vision which you have displayed here.
abject evilis to
think Russia is in the right. That is a particularly crass and nasty instance of the logical fallacy known as false dilemma. It is false because it excludes any other alternative views; and it is nasty because it is designed to imply that anyone who disagrees with Headbomb backs a war of aggression. As with any dispute, there are many logically possible stances apart from these two wild extremes ... and there are also many editors who want project pages to be used to build the encyclopedia rather than have them used as a venue for the repeated smear tactics of an editor whose aggression is matched by a hyperbolically Manichean worldview. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 08:59, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
"that we apply the same criteria in all cases"has not been your argument. You have continued to oppose showing support for Ukraine in the name of NPOV as your primary point. My point is that this isn't a NPOV issue, this is a human rights issue. And I understand there is a difference between simply advocating against the actions themselves instead of the governments that carry them out as a matter of policy, and a difference between advocating against those actions and other actions of that government. But this is all one larger topic, not separate issues. The Russian government is seemingly enacting a policy of enforced compliance with their line of information, specifically related to their invasion of Ukraine. And if your argument here is to pursue a line of greater nuance in how we present support for Ukraine and opposition to the Russian government, I am all for it. But that is not what you've been arguing outside of this. You have been arguing for a blanket ban on taking any side. Which, as I somewhat mentioned earlier, is itself taking a side. Vermont ( talk) 00:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
"That includes human rights issues, because many of those issues are disputed"told me all I needed to know. Vermont ( talk) 22:38, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
the work of building encyclopedic coverage of the war, and the difficulties faced by Wikipedians who have been caught up in the conflict in whatever way; I believe the below sentences in the editorial may be of interest.
People are coming to the Wikimedia projects to learn facts, and Wikimedians around the world are collaborating to share their knowledge. Contributors are helping however they can, from documenting the crisis in over 100 languages, to ensuring that coverage of Ukraine and Russia-related articles is thorough, to assisting other users who need support.
We are also working to document and unearth as much as we can about the war and those affected, publishing reports on disinformation, spotlighting the voices of Ukrainians impacted, featuring the rich history of Ukraine, and much more.
the difficulties faced by Wikipedians who have been caught up in the conflict in whatever way, the "Disinformation report" with information on disinformation in Wikipedia regarding conflict-related articles... and the list goes on. Respectfully, I believe that the Signpost has covered appropriately the relation between our encyclopedic content and the Russo-Ukrainian War, and I would appreciate if this coverage would be considered in the evaluation of the Signpost currently undergoing here. Please let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 23:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
expresses the opinion of an author usually not affiliated with the publication's editorial board., but instead this piece is an editorial, intended to express the opinion of the editorial board. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 23:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC)