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Sorry to bother wikipedians, but I have an unsolvable problem. Recently I went to https://ilostat.ilo.org/topics/informality/ and downloaded the table "informal employment and informal sector" there, and there was a layout specifically for informal employment in the formal sector and informal employment in the informal sector. Today I go there to clarify links and there is no indicator. Just cry, even shoot, well, there is none in nature at all! Moreover, there is a description of the indicator, but it is generally absent in nature. Please, who knows where he is, please help! -- Vyacheslav84 ( talk) 15:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
I have put in a request for a geo-targeted CentralNotice for a virtual Asia-Pacific Wikipedia 20 event on January 16. See the request on meta at m:CentralNotice/Request/WP20 Asia-Pacific.-- Pharos ( talk) 20:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, can you help me at this article? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prof.Bilmiş ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
A Stanford Internet Observatory article titled "Inauthentic Editing: Changing Wikipedia to Win Elections and Influence People" discusses "one case of 'inauthentic editing'—where individuals targeted the Wikipedia pages of two contending politicians during the 2020 British Columbia (BC) general provincial election." ( John Horgan and Andrew Wilkinson.) I thought I would share it here in case anyone else finds the perspective to be helpful. Best, Tony Tan · talk 17:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello! I'm Ed Erhart, part of the Wikimedia Foundation's Communications department. (You might know me better as The ed17.)
Have you ever wanted to ask an astronaut a question about living in space or the science that's done on the International Space Station (ISS)? Or perhaps you're expanding an article on human spaceflight and can't find a citation for an important bit of information? We're looking for community input on questions to ask a NASA astronaut.
For Wikipedia's 20th birthday, coming up on 15 January, and 20 years of continuous occupation of the ISS, we're working with Modest Genius to broadcast an interview with that NASA astronaut. Suitable topics would include Wikipedia's coverage of astronautics, scientific contributions made by crewed spaceflight over the last twenty years, and plans for the next two decades of spaceflight. We'll select the best questions to put to the astronaut.
If you have questions to submit, please respond below or send them to me via email by Sunday, 10 January (UTC). Thank you! Ed Erhart (WMF) ( talk) 22:51, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
This category is exclusively comprised of transclusions of the main AfD log, which by definition is not supposed to be deleted, and it does not even transclude the G7 template, nor even mention G7. JJP...MASTER! [talk to] JJP... master? 13:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a discussion ongoing at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 3#Category:University of Zagreb faculty about this topic, input would be welcome so we don't end up with yet another barely noticed no-consensus discussion. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 18:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § Proposal to change logo for 20th anniversary. — Wug· a·po·des 22:47, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm working on a revamp of some of the instructions for student editors in Wiki Education courses, specifically for when they are assigned to either evaluate an article (as an early assignment to learn about Wikipedia article quality standards and think critically about content and sources) or to peer review a classmate's draft work. I want to include links to a collection of examples of the kinds of useful and substantive feedback they should be aiming for, and I want to cover a range of quality levels and article topics. It's easy to find good examples for really well-deleveloped articles (for example, in GA and FA reviews), but I'm having trouble finding a diverse range of examples of good feedback for articles in the Start to B range.
If you have examples of critical, substantive, useful feedback on articles that have a long way to go, please share some!-- Sage (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 21:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
There have been over 2000 attempts to log in to my account in the last day. Usually, it is just a couple a week. Wondering if anyone else is seeing activity like this... -- Sam uelWantman 21:50, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Over the last few days, I've gotten warnings about 'multiple failed login attempts from a new device' targeting my account on en wiki. Is there anything I can do besides what is described in Help:Two-factor authentication? I think my password is strong but is there a way to disable access to my account for some period from any new device? Can I get information on what device/IP attempted to access my account? (I'll also add that I've been a subject of wiki-related real-life harassment of which Trust&Safety and ArbCom are aware of, and this leads me to conclude - Ockham's razor - that said attempts are coming from an individual who received a site ban for similar activities). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Is there anything like a commemorative badge or logo that we can place on our user pages to show "I was here"? Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 11:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
FYI, in an interview published by Der Spiegel on Jan. 11,
Jimmy Wales was quoted as saying: "Wir würden nie eine Spende akzeptieren, die unsere redaktionelle Unabhängigkeit kompromittiert."
(English:) "We would never accept a (subsidy/gift/contribution) that compromised our editorial independence." (My trans.)
Presumably he said it in English, but the
article is in German (and alas it's paywalled, too). –
Sca (
talk) 16:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Are there categories for people who saved the life or someone else? Also for people who died while saving other people? For people like Emmanuel Mensah (soldier).
Not sure Category:Humanitarians apply for such cases because Category:Humanitarians might be about people who make donations, campaigns, and other things planned in time, for a cause, and not for people who get to act with courage spontaneously in unexpected situations.
Lucas Silverio Mendoza is another example. They both belong to some categories like: "Rescuers who saved human lives" - "People who died from saving others" and also "People who have streets named after them".
How about lists containing people like these two? Barecode ( talk) 22:13, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Here is how the scam works:
Most of the time it will not work, but some times it will, that is enough if you live in a place where $100 is good money. I think there is evidence these extortionists are real and the AfD system can be/has been compromised. It's not worse than the low grade phone scam corruption we all deal with, in fact pretty similar. -- Green C 23:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to other languages.. Thank you!
Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.
ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi there! The WMF starts a Call for Feedback about community-and-affiliated seat selection processes, resulting from the recent approval of bylaws amendments. This call for feedback is going to start on Monday Feb 1 and will run until March 14.
Full details will be published on Monday at Call for Feedback:Community Board Seats. Discuss on the Talk page for general comments. Translated pages welcome discussions in multiple languages. If you are a user of Telegram, you can receive updates in the announcement Telegram group or join the discussion in this discussion Telegram group.
Furthermore we are organizing three different office hour sessions (for different time zones) on Tuesday, Feb 2 (see Call for Feedback:Community Board Seats). There we will introduce the call for feedback and will be available for any questions and comments.
We are looking for a broad representation of opinions. We welcome conversations in any language and in any channel. If you want us to organize a conversation or a meeting for your wiki project or your affiliate, please contact us. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 21:52, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
This is the announcement for the
Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.
For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:
Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.
We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and
submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!
Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrantswikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 08:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
I've been going through ESP and EEP requests, but now I just realised there's well over 100 entries on this one... Some additional hands on deck to clear this backlog would not be a bad idea. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Note that Tochinoumi Teruyoshi died on 29 january. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 11:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Could an admin protect the Vajiralongkorn article against IP-edits? A lot of vandalism is going on. -- FredTC ( talk) 13:08, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I´m looking for someone who knows how wikitables work to fix one at Climate emergency declaration.
I´d like to fix the table placed in /info/en/?search=Climate_emergency_declaration#Countries_and_jurisdictions_that_have_declared_Climate_Emergency and improve it ( /info/en/?search=Talk:Climate_emergency_declaration#Let%C2%B4s_improve_the_table) Thank you very much, -- Javiermes ( talk) 11:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing new free, full-access, accounts to reliable sources as part of our research access program. You can sign up to access research materials on the Library Card platform:
We have a wide array of other collections available, and a significant number now no longer require individual applications to access! Read more in our blog post.
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects!
--12:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
I will never donate to you when you post leftist opinions describing conservative representatives. Shame on you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.24.157 ( talk) 23:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Please, check is this edit correct. I’m not sure in it. 217.117.125.88 ( talk) 10:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I wonder if any Wikipedians are involved with projects to mass-archive publications? I found copies of the Hong Kong Daily Press online from 1941 on back.
This ties into Wikipedia as these articles can be used as sources in the future.
There are about 25K or so issues on the internet that I would like to see archived due to the unpredictability of the government in HK. Would any Wikimedians suggest some people who are willing to do this?
Thanks, WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.
You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.
Please support us in translating the project page and a banner message to help us spread the word in your native language.
Kind regards,
Wiki loves Folklore International Team
MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Please note that Samuel Vestey died on 4 february according to Google. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 16:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello! I am currently conducting research with York University, To, ON, CA. The research project is focused on the effort made by Wikipedians to uphold Wikipedia as effective, legitimate and useful. If you are interested please just comment, if you have any ideas to contribute it would be greatly appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reciprocal learning yute ( talk • contribs) 02:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Dear colleagues! From 25 January to 10 March 2021, Wikimedia RU is organising a thematic competition dedicated to the creation and expansion of Wikipedia articles about works of new Russian literature, derived works, as well as all significant authors writing in Russian after 1990. In nomination No. 2, articles in English are accepted. Read more about the rules of the competition on its official page. JukoFF ( talk) 22:36, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I'm working on some edits, at one place I need a template that returns me the current date in mm/dd/yyyy format ( for example, 02/09/2021 for today, February 09, 2021) All existing date templates I found after extensive searching in Category:Date-computing_templates_based_on_current_time returns the month in words not in numerical digits. I request that someone please make a template to return the current date in mm/dd/yyyy format. Thank you! CX Zoom ( talk) 16:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#time:m/d/Y}}
gives 04/27/2024.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 17:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
{{Div col|colwidth, {{Cast listing|, {{columns-list|colwidth - don't work anymore, why? The lists are not split anymore, this is bad. Can you provide a link to discuss this issue? 92.100.124.8 ( talk) 01:18, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I want to announce the first weekly report for the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats is published.
The Call for Feedback about Community Board seats selection processes is happening February 1 and March 14. With the help of a team of community facilitators, we are organizing conversations and gathering feedback. During this call for feedback we publish weekly reports and we draft the final report that will be delivered to the Board. This report covers new activity February 1-7.
If you think anything relevant is missing, let us know in the Talk page and we will consider its inclusion in the next weekly report. Your feedback is welcome and appreciated.
Finally, it is not too late to join the conversation! Talk to you all soon! Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 18:22, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
Greetings!
You are invited to participate in Feminism and Folklore writing contest. This year Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's biographies and gender-focused topics for the project in league with Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus with folk culture theme on Wikipedia. folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, fairy tales, folk plays, folk arts, folk religion, mythology, etc.
You can help us in enriching the folklore documentation on Wikipedia from your region by creating or improving articles centered on folklore around the world, including, but not limited to folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer personalities in folklore, folk culture (folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch-hunting, fairy tales and more. You can contribute to new articles or translate from the list of suggested articles here.
You can also support us in translating the project page and help us spread the word in your native language.
Learn more about the contest and prizes from our project page. Thank you.
Feminism and Folklore team,
Joy Agyepong ( talk) 02:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I want to announce the second office hours for the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats.
The Call for Feedback about Community Board seats selection processes is happening February 1 and March 14. With the help of a team of community facilitators, we are organizing conversations and gathering feedback. It is not too late to join the conversation! Talk to you all soon! Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 22:52, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
(WP:VP is an abbreviated link to Wikipedia: Village Pump - may be just English wikipedia - unsure.)
I've just been reading a couple of posts on the Policy village pump and come across some abbreviations I don't know. POV is Point of View. What is SPA? But more to the point, there is no obvious link to a page that defines any and all abbreviations used on the village pump pages. Surely there should be such a page - and if there is it should be readily findable. -- SGBailey ( talk) 17:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Can somebody please settle a discussion here: Talk:Eirik Kristoffersen#Awards, again-- Znuddel ( talk) 22:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Designer Linus Bowman recently made a (likely controversial) YouTube critique of Wikipedia's logo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deemTUM58cs. It's very well-informed for someone not a Wikipedian, and—agree or disagree—it's definitely well thought through. What do you all think? (Discovery credit to Geni earlier on Discord.) {{u| Sdkb}} talk 19:05, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
.mw-wiki-logo { background-image: url(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg)}
Vexations (
talk) 20:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
$('#p-logo').hide().removeAttr('id');
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GhostInTheMachine
talk to me 15:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)This video is hard to take into consideration when he is directly blaming the Wikipedia community for their "incompetence" as to why the logo is the way that it is. And although i do agree not everyone is a professional at Wikipedia, that doesn't mean there aren't any professionals at all. I do agree the logo needs refinement, but I disagree that the logo is "bad" overall, and it's still iconic to this day. Another gripe I have with the video is the claims he's the majority of people when he says the logo is bad. I'm not against the argument, but without any substantial proof, it's just another attempt to seem like Wikipedia is out of touch with the community and blaming the logo because of it. I just do not agree with the approach. What's worst about the video is he gave vague advice but didn't give a hint as to how to tackle the problem.
With that said, It's a personal passion for me to study and review logo designs as a hobby. I don't think most of the points are I'm not against refining the logo or changing it. But if that topic is to come up, I think it would be more productive to not highlight that specific video and just the points. Based on my inspection of the logo, it continues to have an "early-internet" vibe, and it's not because of the graphic. The Word-mark aspect of the logo appears to be just the word "Wikipedia" with the W and A at slightly different font size and some minor modified spacing. The awkward spacing causes some issues with the W appears more separated from the rest of the text. I would even say that the font used is out-dated. These are just my opinions of course. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 22:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
As was posted earlier on VPT, we're participating in Outreachy/GSoC, which means that students will be paid to work on some of our bugs or feature requests. If anyone has a community wishlist item that hasn't yet been done but would be very impactful, please let me know (here or on my talk page). Unfortunately, I can't mentor anything involving PHP or MediaWiki extensions (because I know next to nothing about the former), but I can do stuff involving new tools, bots, or user scripts. If you would also like to get involved as a mentor (i.e. project manager - see this guide), that would be most appreciated, and would make the project much more likely to be "accepted" and actually have someone work on it. Enterprisey ( talk!) 09:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
I love Wikipedia, depend on it, and support it, and the Main Page is my home page. I read it every day. I understand why you have, for example, sports information, even though I don't care about sports. But over time, the choice of articles seems to dwell too heavily on a few obscure topics. I think most of us have seen more than enough about the administrators of Georgetown University and about Indonesian cinema. Thanks! Curmudgeonly Pedant ( talk) 20:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Besides adding that there's also been enough about the Australian military, I take issue with Izno's comment that implies the problem (or what I see as a problem) is my fault. I cannot be the case that the three topics I've mentioned are so heavily represented among new content that whoever chooses what to feature has no choice but to include them so often. Curmudgeonly Pedant ( talk) 16:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Curmudgeonly Pedant has pointed out a very valid problem that too much of the content on the Main Page is chosen to satisfy editors as opposed to readers. There's no reason that we have to restrict ourselves to drawing DYKs from new articles (which means that some topics will always make outsized appearances because specialist editors will nominate their own new work), or that we couldn't take a harder stance about TFAs with recent similar precedents or the flood of sports ITN items. Dismissing that concern with "well then go create some articles yourself" is not only patronizing (people should be allowed to point out problems without becoming obligated to solve them) but misses the point. Yes, we'd always like new contributors, but unless contributors become more evenly distributed across content areas (which won't happen anytime soon), the problem won't solve itself. We need to start putting readers first and designing the main page to interest them, rather than just using it to reward ourselves with prominent placement for our work. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 21:42, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
chosen to satisfy editors as opposed to readersIf in fact you mean "satisfy the general requirements that we have for all articles, desiring not to showcase articles that don't", sure. I am not dismissing the concern; I am indicating that there is a fix already available to the person in question--hence why I used the word ensure. He literally can be the person to change what is featured on the main page. Changing how our processes works in any significant fashion so as to highlight articles which don't meet some fairly low but arbitrary bars is about as likely as your tangent about content diversity. Anything else refuses to acknowledge the realities of how our main page works, which is also patronizing. -- Izno ( talk) 21:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Friends, I'm delighted that my comment didn't just fall into a hole. I'm also humbled to think more about how much work by dedicated people, at many levels, goes into the main page (and all of Wikipedia): I've been badly trained as an American consumer, and I'll just take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributes to this vitally important project. I poked around enough to find out that Wikipedia editors identify Featured Articles/Pictures (no further process information found) and then two individuals choose the Featured Article of the Day; once these two became real people in my mind, well, if one of them has a fondness for Georgetown University and the other for the Australian military, I'll accept that as the price of admission; similarly for the Featured Picture skewing towards Indonesian cinema. However, I would speculate, contrary to some of the comments above, that it is not the case that there are just so many outstanding articles/pictures on these three topics written/photographed that the (unexplained) process of nominations for Featured status and then the choice of main page placement give proportional representation to all topics. And finally, yes, I should ping everyone who has commented on this thread, and I looked up how to do so; the very complete article was not composed for someone who is new to editing Wikipedia, although I'm sure it's clear as day to all of you; this may be a good example of how difficult it is for us newbies to get involved. Curmudgeonly Pedant ( talk) 14:27, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
What exactly are we hoping to resolve with this discussion?-- WaltCip-( talk) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi Curmudgeonly Pedant! I understand your main concern here. Unfortunately, this problem is a perpetual problem. If we were to focus on reader's interest, then we should consider that most readers are from Anglophone countries, causing us to only include materials that are well known to anglophone countries in the mainpage, thus completely going against one of our current goals in Wikipedia. But I'm thinking about something in the middle, probably non-specific country articles are proper enough to satisfy readers but still in line with countering bias. Do you consider biology topics interesting enough to appear in the mainpage? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
As an aside, can we please refrain from displaying articles with vulgar language on the front page? The DIY section that details the Reddit username "DeepFuckingValue" seems unnecessary. There are many children that use this sight, not to mention it looks unprofessional. TalkingOrder 12:27, 19 February 2021 (CST)
It was jarring to look at the main page one day, see a picture of Porfirije in the news, and then the next day see him ten years younger and in a very bad mood. I'm just saying. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 14:42, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I am writing here to let you know a few things:
Do reach out if you have any questions or comments. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 13:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
I wonder if its possible to execute javascript in Wikipedia user pages, so that I can stop my user page from being able to be vandalised with a solution like putting wgRestrictionEdit:["4D4850"]; or something else to cause protection. Please can someone tell me if executable javascript is usable in the user namespace? 4D4850 ( talk) 23:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
01:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I have been working with Wiki for several years (see User:Beebuk). Lately, I have had to give up my old computer and begin on a new one, and, when I tried to log into Wikipedia, I was told that either my user name or my password was wrong (even though I had a written record of both). After much searching, I discovered that, according to my account information, my user name is listed, not as Beebuk, but as Rfstorey. When I tried to change it to Beebuk, I only ended up with a new account, as evidenced by my signature, in red, at the end of this query. How in the world can I retrieve my old identity? Beebuk ( talk) 22:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Apparent solution: [3]
Important lessons:
-- Guy Macon ( talk) 01:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
There were several attempts in the last few hours to guess my password. This is usually directed against a large number of accounts. Just a heads up. ☆ Bri ( talk) 19:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
If this is on other apps that have 2fa get a titan key so your account can only be opened by that key its a physical usb thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9004:915:7000:1C50:6220:1437:9C88 ( talk) 20:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
The Facilitation team invites you to a round of panel sessions March 12 - 14 in the last days of the Call for feedback: Community Board seats.
We are confirming guests and times, and we are updating the wiki pages accordingly. Expect 90-minute sessions with video recording: 45 minutes for a panel to dive deep into possible scenarios followed by 45 minutes to continue the conversation with open mic for all participants. You can share your questions and comments now on the panel Talk pages. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 20:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
I just commented at Talk:List of Wikipedia mobile applications (section: F-Droid or Google Play?) about the opportunity of including a link to F-Droid,s version of the official app (besides Google Play's) on the main page (I mean https://www.wikipedia.org/).
I am leaving the suggestion there, as it is also a consistency issue between that article and the main page, but I am not sure if/where I have to report specifically for changes to the main page. 194.230.155.139 ( talk) 14:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
I believe this is the complaints section? For another illustration of how broken Wikidata is, consider COSI which is showing a not-very-helpful error ("Lua error in Module:Mapframe at line 379: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'lat_d' (a nil value)") in the infobox. That error was caused by a 9 March 2021 edit by DeltaBot at Wikidata: diff ("move claim coordinate location (P625) -> headquarters location (P159)"). In other words, an article here using the optimistic {{ Wikidatacoord}} to get coordinates from Wikidata will break if something decides the coordinates actually should be called something else. Presumably, from the point of view of the Wikidata design, the error is the fault of the enwiki template which should know to try getting coordinates from each of the dozen different places where they might be applied, now or in the future. Johnuniq ( talk) 09:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I just spent a long time working out why five articles are displaying "No value was provided for longitude" errors: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5. It's because d:Q21578 had the same bot edit to rename the coordinates entry. @ Sdkb: As the author of Template:U.S. News top 10, I was going to drop the problem on you when I worked out the problem. What can be done? Johnuniq ( talk) 06:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
{{wikidata|property|raw|page={{{1}}}|coord}}
here so that they accept coordinates that are qualifiers of P159 rather than just given as P625. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk 07:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Hello
I summarized our need and the rationale here c:Commons talk:Wiki Loves Africa 2021/jury. In short, last year, some national teams have asked for help from Commonists (from other countries !) to join the selection juries. We would wholeheartedly welcome a handfull of volunteers, speaking either of those languages: English, Arabic and French. I am sharing with you last year list of local teams who run a selection process Commons:Wiki Loves Africa 2020/National winners. I think that this year they will be less numerous though, but they will be from these countries pool. Add your name if you have super skills in photography and if you are willing to help ! Thanks in advance Anthere ( talk) 13:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion on the Manual of Style talk page about whether or not to capitalise internet when referring to the Internet; if you wish to participate, please see Wikipedia_talk:Manual of style#The capitalisation of "Internet" (referring to the global interconnected network generally used today). Thank you. DesertPipeline ( talk) 13:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at MediaWiki talk:Linkshere regarding adding a link to LinkCount to the WhatLinksHere special page, any feedback about the tool is also welcome. See MediaWiki talk:Linkshere#Protected edit request on 8 March 2021 to participate. Thank you. – BrandonXLF ( talk) 17:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Just a short message to call people interested to review, comment and discuss my PhD thesis on Wikimedia movement. All the best, Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact (French native speaker) 19:28, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I am a Wikipedian of the Spanish Wikipedia. We have been arguing at our village pump for weeks because we cannot agree on the date of our 20th anniversary. Some say May 11, others May 18, others May 20 ... and others directly want to celebrate the entire month of May. I appeal to the English Wikipedia for help...! Isn't there a way that we can clearly know the precise day? Thanks. – El Mono Español ( talk) 13:36, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Imagine you’ve just spent 10 minutes working on what you earnestly thought would be a helpful edit to your favorite article. You click that bright blue “Publish changes” button for the very first time, and you see your edit go live! Weeee! But 10 seconds later, you refresh the page and discover that your edit has been reverted.
Actually, an AI system - called ORES- has contributed to the judgement of hundreds of thousands of edits on Wikipedia. ORES is a machine learning system that automatically predicts edit and article quality to support editing tools in Wikipedia.
I'm exploring strategies for tuning ORES predictions about quality and vandalism to your needs and I'd like to work with you. I am are looking for editors to discuss the values of Wikipedia as it relates to ORES.
If you are interested in participating, please fill out the short survey below. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe7itK8GM6Y7vgWdtcFXXnsJ8iWe9ysjQI8S1KVtomfonbkxw/viewform -- EpochFail ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Please see Category talk:Faculty by university or college#Request for comment on naming. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 15:33, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability § RfC: Visual changes to the new article editnotice. The discussion is a little old, but a related edit request was just declined with advice to seek further input, so additional participation is needed. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:22, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
I blocked User:Ayuel Monykuch Arop a while ago and found I couldn't delete the user page even though it constitutes advertising. Other than replacing it with a template - and I can't find a suitable one - I don't know what to do about it. Deb ( talk) 10:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the Commons Picture of the year competition for 2020 will get started? ( COM:POTY) I haven't asked there as COM:POTY doesn't seem to have a talk page. -- SGBailey ( talk) 08:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sweep § Project launch. This new project aims to comprehensively review every article created in Wikipedia's early days to ensure basic conformity to modern standards. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 04:16, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
We have concluded the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats. Thank you everyone who participated.
During the Call for Feedback period from February 1 to March 14, a team of 10 facilitators organized open and inclusive community discussions to gather feedback about ideas for trustee selection processes for community-and-affiliate Board seats. Some facilitators had a regional focus; some had a language focus. The intention was for the combined facilitation team to obtain a fair representation of the movement’s diversity and create a report for the Board. The facilitation team used the Weekly Reports as the main source of information to create the main report.
A draft of the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats main report is now available. It will be available for community comment until Monday, March 29.
After the community comment period the facilitation team will send the main report to the Board. The feedback in the main report informs the Board’s decision about these potential changes to trustee selection processes, procedures, and tools to meet the goals of the Board.
Please reach out if you have any questions or comments. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 13:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia has always grown organically. Many articles have grown from stubs to FA's. Moving articles out of main space doesn't seem very conducive to this, but this is being done at an accelerating rate recently.
OK I admit my stub for Winner Take All (1975 film)] wasn't much, but it was a start. It was something that could be built on, there were plenty of notable actors etc involved. There's a clear WP:RECENTISM bias in wikipedia in that relatively obscure films from the 70s have difficulty finding internet sources while recent films have no such problems. It seems to me this trend of ghettoising new articles is yet another discouragement to new editors (as well as a bit insulting to more experienced editors). Could we slow down the moving to draft space trend? MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 11:42, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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tags-block the save. Crude but not devastating.The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello! Is it possible for you to correct errors regarding flags of Bulgaria and South Korea and also Spain at the Olympic Games. In the 1948 Winter Olympics the Bulgarian flag should be that from 1948 until 1967 regarding that they changed the flag three days prior to the games. South Korea used the variant until 1948 in both the 1948 Summer and Winter Olympics because they changed flag in October of that year. In the 1984 Summer and Winter Olympics they used the flag until 1984 on both occasions until they changed flag in October of that year. Spain's flag at the 1980 Olympics should be the Spanish Olympic Committee flag and not the Olympic flag. Check sources and see what you find out. Sincerely yours, Sondre -- 80.212.169.236 ( talk) 20:40, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Sailing moose just told me about Unpaywall, which is a browser extension that lets you locate free versions of paywalled scholarly articles. Just spreading the word about what looks like an amazingly useful tool. If you belong to a wikiproject that works on academic research topics, please let them know about this. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I just want to put a suggestion to whoever is in-charge of putting the banner/ads which we see occasionally. Which is the right venue?
I've been a longstanding editor and it doesn't reflect well that I myself don't know where to post this.
Ugog-public (
talk) 04:09, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Should Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan have an admin template placed on her article due to User:Xaosflux/Requests for adminship/Wikipe-tan? (Oinkers42) ( talk) 23:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I was just curious if there was a website out there that maybe doesn't preserve the video format, but the content of the videos. Videos are harder to archive so i was curious if there was an alternative out there. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 13:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
This template need some rework. The Type row made this template weird.-- John123521 ( Talk- Contib.) 14:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
It’s Wikipedia:Wikipedia Challenges, I have a BFDI-related one and you can suggest your own. Another Wiki User the 2nd ( talk) 20:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
It is time we ended this nonsense. It was all very well when wikipedia started, but now wikipedia is serious. No other encyclopedia runs close to the influence wikipedia has. Also, the April Fool Day fun is restricted to a very few countries and many users of wikipedia will have no idea what it is about. (originally posted at the Teahouse) -- Bduke ( talk) 02:01, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
When "Curtido" is searched in google, the wikipedia preview says the country of Origin is Mexico, but in the page itself on Wikipedia it says El Salvador. I have no idea how to correct this. Just reporting it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:280:4100:6140:55DB:A9C:79A8:F3D7 ( talk) 09:51, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a universal baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire Wikimedia movement and all its projects. The project is currently in Phase 2, outlining clear enforcement pathways. You can read more about the whole project on its project page.
The Wikimedia Foundation is recruiting volunteers to join a committee to draft how to make the code enforceable. Volunteers on the committee will commit between 2 and 6 hours per week from late April through July and again in October and November. It is important that the committee be diverse and inclusive, and have a range of experiences, including both experienced users and newcomers, and those who have received or responded to, as well as those who have been falsely accused of harassment.
To apply and learn more about the process, see Universal Code of Conduct/Drafting committee.
From 5 April – 5 May 2021 there will be conversations on many Wikimedia projects about how to enforce the UCoC. We are looking for volunteers to translate key material, as well as to help host consultations on their own languages or projects using suggested key questions. If you are interested in volunteering for either of these roles, please contact us in whatever language you are most comfortable.
To learn more about this work and other conversations taking place, see Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations.
-- Xeno (WMF) ( talk)
20:45, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Further to the above, I've opened an RfC at Wikipedia:Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultation, and community comments are invited. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 22:40, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello!
According to the list, your wiki project is currently opted in to the global bot policy. As such, I want to let you know about some changes that were made after the global RfC was closed.
Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
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Thanks for the fish!
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contribs 18:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Look at Talk:Emily Brooke. I just posted in that talk page a message and I want to know if anyone has opinions about it. (Please make only comments that would be valid with ANY requested move that one might want to propose but that they're too afraid there will be lots of oppose votes.) Georgia guy ( talk) 21:41, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
As I type these words, it is April 1 2021, which is Maundy Thursday in 2021. It is also April Fool's Day. Can I therefore ask all Recent Changes Watchers to be especially vigilant of newly created articles today, as some of them might be hoaxes as April Fool's Day jokes. There was a very famous hoax in which Panorama declared that spaghetti grows on trees - it was an April Fool's Day joke. If it was not Panorama, it might have been Horizon. Rollo August ( talk) 16:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
All right I shall confess that when I was editing Wikipedia under the name Vorbee (I have a new laptop now) I did create a joke article on a made-up pop group called "Heidegger Returns to Ontology" on April 1. This was deleted almost immediately as a mild celebration of April Fool's Day. Rollo August ( talk) 21:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Dennis F. Rasmussen needs an advertisement-like hatnote ( puffery)
Hi all! The Community Resilience & Sustainability team at the Wikimedia Foundation is hosting an office hour led by its Vice President Maggie Dennis. Topics within scope for this call include Movement Strategy coordination (recently transferred to CR&S), Trust and Safety (and the Universal Code of Conduct), Community Development, and Human Rights. Come with your questions or feedback, and let’s talk! You can also send us your questions in advance.
The meeting will be on April 17 at 15:00 UTC check your local time.
You can check all the details on Meta. Hope to see you there!
Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 20:37, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
See User_talk:Uni3993#Citations_needed. Perhaps the help pages need more material on the How to add the citation. The existing documentation for citations is a step up in skills needed, when compared to the Help tutorial. -- Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 00:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
I learned something today: it looks very much like Google does not index orphan articles. Either that, or there's some other explanation why Christ Community Health Services is not in Google's index after a month in main space. This article was created by a Wiki Education student as a user subpage on 11 February, and moved to main space on 15 March. In my experience, Google finds and indexes new Wikipedia articles in minutes or hours. It cannot be an aberration that one month later, this article is still not in their index.
Note that it is not the case that Google is unaware of the url; on the contrary, clearly it is aware of it, and has multiple in-links to it in their index. A targeted site search at wikipedia.org returns nine total pages at Wikipedia with the exact phrase "Christ Community Health Services", but the article itself is not among them, although it would clearly be the most relevant result, if indexed. The search results are eight Category pages, including Category:Orphaned articles from March 2021, as well as the non-category page Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics/New articles. Since it's not that Google doesn't know about the page; it must be that the article doesn't meet the criteria for appearing in the index (or at the very least, in their query results, which practically speaking is the same thing). (It may be that soon there will be ten pages in the search results, once Google sees this page and indexes it. Somebody please note the timestamp, when you first notice that.)
I'd ask that readers here not de-orphan the article for a few days, in order to give other interested users here the ability to observe and verify this first, and to comment if they wish to. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 19:56, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Several thousand articles exist for purported places in Azerbaijan that were mass-created in a problematic way from GEOnet. We have had similar problems with Iran articles (see earlier on the same noticeboard) and California articles (see Wikipedia:Reliability of GNIS data and Wikipedia:WikiProject California/GNIS cleanup task force) and have quite a number of areas not even tackled yet (e.g. "Corner" articles in the U.S. state of Virginia that were probably once the sites of marker trees for land surveys, that Wikipedia is declaring to be human communities). A discussion of which articles we do not trust to be fundamentally accurate in the context that they give to readers/editors, and whether and what to mass-delete, is on-going on the Administrators' main noticeboard. Uncle G ( talk) 02:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Several thousand articles exist for purported places in Azerbaijan and Armenia that were mass-created in a problematic way from GEOnet. We have had similar problems with Iran articles (see earlier on the same noticeboard) and California articles (see Wikipedia:Reliability of GNIS data and Wikipedia:WikiProject California/GNIS cleanup task force) and have quite a number of areas not even tackled yet. A discussion of which articles we do not trust to be fundamentally accurate in the context that they give to readers/editors, and whether and what to mass-delete; as well as ways to filter out the good articles, and any articles that are simply duplicates because places have been renamed; is on-going on the Administrators' main noticeboard.
We are also, please note, on the cusp of mass-deleting a couple of hundred articles from the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh/ Republic of Artsakh area that were mass-created with a notice that they could not be found otherwise than from the source GEOnet database. If you have any concerns, now is the time to speak up.
Uncle G ( talk) 06:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi All! The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees met last week to decide on a plan for the 2021 Board elections. The Board Governance Committee created this proposal, based on the Call for Feedback about Community Board Seats. Please check the related announcement for details. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 16:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
I developed a Gadget that generates a link to a structured description of a given Wikimedia category based on the commonly used Wikidata statements to efficiently define its direct members. Please find the description of the Gadget at
d:Wikidata:Structured Categories and its JavaScript source code at
meta:MediaWiki:Gadget-StructuredCategories.js.
I invite you to test it by inserting this code to
Special:MyPage/common.js: mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-StructuredCategories.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
Yours Sincerely,
-- Csisc ( talk) 14:16, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Someone can check the modification in this page;
Peshawar, Afghanistan (
|
talk |
history |
protect |
delete |
links |
watch |
logs |
views).
I think most vandalism come from pakistani people who modified it to sample
Peshawar, KP article.
Thanks, -- Anas1712 ( talk) 15:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I count at least five editors who, in the past 24 hours, have created userpages that consist solely of {{
UserboxCOI|<some redlink>}}
(a different redlink in each case). Is there a reason for that sort of thing to happen organically? (Not linking the users because I don't want to bite any newcomers if there is in fact a good explanation. If there isn't, I'll post to an enforcement board.) --
Tamzin (they/she) |
o toki tawa mi. 03:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Draft:
in the parameter. That's perfectly understandable considering they are asked to post the template before starting the draft and seeing it gets Draft:
in the name. See e.g.
Special:Contributions/Bradrave who posted {{UserboxCOI|1=OWLSTAR}}
before creating
Draft:OWLSTAR. We should modify the instructions.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 00:40, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Can you look at the country data template for Bahamas?. Can you correct or add new variants to the template?. The 1869 variant should be Flag of the Bahamas (1869–1904).svg
. And can you add the 1964 variant to the template that is Flag of the Bahamas (1964–1973).svg
.
Yours sincerely, Sondre --
80.212.169.236 (
talk) 10:23, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Can you correct the variants for the Saint Lucia country data template?. The 1875 variant should be Flag of Saint Lucia (1875-1939).svg
and the 1939 variant should be Flag of Saint Lucia (1939-1966).svg
.
Yours sincerely, Sondre --
80.212.169.236 (
talk) 10:25, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Not sure where else to ask about this. Got an email this morning that appears to suggest I have been welcomed to the Vietnamese Wikipedia, which is baffling as a) I am not Vietnamese b) I have never to my knowledge visited the Vietnamese version of WP and c) I do not speak the language. The latter point prevents me from confirming what is happening nor eliminating it, but the message I received takes me to this link: [5] which sure looks like a welcome message of some sort, including my user name, and the notification was emailed to the email address I associate with my WP account. What happened here, and how do I get rid of it? Concerned I may have been compromised although if so this is a weird way to go about that. Are the other projects in the habit of randomly welcoming users from the English WP and creating user pages they haven't asked for? If so it's the first time I've experienced this in my over 10 years on WP. Echoedmyron ( talk) 23:02, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello there,
We are inviting you to participate in Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2021, a global contest scheduled to run from July through August 2021.
Participants will choose among Wikipedia pages without photo images, then add a suitable file from among the many thousands of photos in the Wikimedia Commons, especially those uploaded from thematic contests (Wiki Loves Africa, Wiki Loves Earth, Wiki Loves Folklore, etc.) over the years.
In its first year (2020), 36 Wikimedia communities in 27 countries joined the campaign. Events relating to the campaign included training organized by at least 18 Wikimedia communities in 14 countries.
The campaign resulted in the addition of media files (photos, audios and videos) to more than 90,000 Wikipedia articles in 272 languages.
Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos (WPWP) offers an ideal task for recruiting and guiding new editors through the steps of adding content to existing pages. Besides individual participation, the WPWP campaign can be used by user groups and chapters to organize editing workshops and edit-a-thons.
The organizing team is looking for a contact person to coordinate WPWP participation at the Wikimedia user group or chapter level (geographically or thematically) or for a language WP. We’d be glad for you to reply to this message, or sign up directly at WPWP Participating Communities.
Please feel free to contact Organizing Team if you have any query.
Kind regards,
Tulsi
Communication Manager
Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos Campaign
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talk ] 06:46, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
I frequently use Discord to chat regarding various subjects. I'm aware that there's an IRC chat for Wikipedia, but is there a Discord server as well? Félix An ( talk) 13:20, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Would you like to get more people taking part in the Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees election?
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees announced the plan for the 2021 Board elections. That plan includes outreach and communication support for the Board elections. The Board election facilitators will:
Voter turnout in prior elections was about 10% globally. It was better in communities with volunteer election support. Some of those communities reached over 20% voter turnout. We know we can get more voters to help assess and promote the best candidates, but to do that, we need your help.
We are looking for volunteers to serve as Election Volunteers. Election Volunteers should have a good understanding of their communities. The facilitation team sees Election Volunteers as doing the following:
Who are the Election Volunteers to connect your community with this movement effort? Is it you? Or someone you know? Check out more details about Election Volunteers and add your name next to the community you will support in this table or get in contact with a facilitator. We aim to have at least one Election Volunteer for Wiki Projects in the top 30 for eligible voters. Even better if there are two or more sharing the work.
Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 19:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
There is a case where a user is making cosmetic changes to articles, inserting {{ndash}} in place of -, or changing phrasing in articles without substantially adding or removing content (which is also not correcting outright grammatical errors or not outright making sentences clearer/more concise). I checked the manual of style at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#En_dashes, for example, relating to ndashes and it states that either HTML or ndash forms can be used.
There could be an argument where the likes of {{ndash}} is preferable to -, for example, or one could argue certain phrasing uses fewer words than another. At the same time there's an argument which a series of edits which do not significantly add or remove content, and/or which don't improve the article (as in not actually correcting outright grammatical errors or unclear phrasing) but merely add to an edit count may cause increased blockage on watchlists.
So it is a good general practice to make multiple minor cosmetic changes to articles? WhisperToMe ( talk) 23:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Cosmetic changes to the wikitext are sometimes the most controversial, either in themselves or because they clutter page histories, watchlists, and/or the recent changes feed with edits that are not worth the time spent reviewing them. Such changes should not usually be done on their own, but may be allowed in an edit that also includes a substantive change.Like the others say, don't edit war over it. But anyone making mass cosmetic changes without consensus can be blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
covers the operation of all bots and automated scripts used to provide automation of Wikipedia edits, whether completely automated, higher speed, or simply assisting human editors in their own work. This has been read broadly in the past. You can see the problem; without consensus, one editor could be changing things one way, and another changing them the opposite way, and even if they were not edit warring against each other, they would still be disruptively cluttering page histories and watchlists. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
The user User:Skews Peas is now blocked as a sock, so I think this discussion is over. WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
It's been about 14 months since this script was created, and since its inception it became one of the most imported scripts (currently #54, with 286+ adopters).
Since last year, it's been significantly expanded to cover more bad sources, and is more useful than ever, so I figured it would be a good time to bring up the script up again. This way others who might not know about it can take a look and try it for themselves. I would highly recommend that anyone doing citation work, who writes/expands articles, or does bad-sourcing/BLP cleanup work installs the script.
The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:08, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello, all. The Board of Trustees’ Community Affairs Committee (CAC) is hosting its first office hour on May 13, 2021 at 19:00 UTC.
The CAC is a new Board of Trustees committee established to assess, explore and address current and future community-related efforts. The Committee's Charter lists its full responsibilities, with the first 3 being a priority for this coming year. As part of our commitment to foster better communications with the Wikimedia Movement Community, and based on feedback received from community members requesting more availability from the Board of Trustees, the CAC will be hosting its first Office hours.
All the details are on Meta. Send registration requests and questions to: askcacwikimedia.org. Please help us spread the word by sharing this message with your local / online communities. Hoping to see as many of you as possible! Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 20:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
The Universal Code of Conduct project facilitation team will be hosting round-table discussions for Wikimedians to talk together about how to enforce the Universal Code of Conduct on 15 and 29 May 2021 at 15:00 UTC.
The calls will last between 60 and 90 minutes, and will include a 5-10 minute introduction about the purpose of the call, followed by structured discussions using the key enforcement questions. The ideas shared during the calls will be shared with the committee working to draft an enforcement policy. Please sign up ahead of time to join. In addition to these calls, input can still be provided on the key questions at local discussions or on Meta in any language.
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the Universal Code of Conduct 2021 consultations so far. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 19:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
As I have pointed out elsewhere, the English Wikipedia is hemorrhaging active editors and the ones who remain are unable to hold back the tide of vandalism, misinformation, and bad writing that is overwhelming the Wikipedia project.
I just caught and fixed this vandalism that has been in the lead paragraph of the article on the United States Department of Health and Human Services for 9 years. (The error is obvious to anyone with experience in American health care law; the agency is always referred to as HHS, not the Health Department.) I regularly run into similar vandalism in many other less important articles but do not have the time or energy to fix them all. I am pleased to see that the Wikimedia 2030 project seems to be trying to address Wikipedia's long-term problems but they really need to hurry up. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 04:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
To whom it may concern,
Good faith newbie editor here trying to create a relatively uncomplicated entry on a subject that is red-linked. Unsure as to where and how to get help. Having fulfilled WIKI: BLOP guidelines and provided over 5 reliable, independent and verifiable sources article still rejected on somewhat confusing grounds, someone please help, Morayce ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Morayce ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I really need some help as I don't speak the Arabic language, so what I am asking is for someone who speaks Arabic to correct a problem at the Arabic Wikipedia. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd ( talk) 15:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
At Oliver Cromwell's head...I also asked about this issue at PBS's user talk since they had edited the article but thought maybe getting some more eyes on my dilemma could be helpful.
A source was added to the Oliver Cromwell's head article by PeterSymonds here (in 2009) and adjusted in 2014 here (in 2014). The article or book is referred to in a book published in 2014 - Severed: A History of Heads Lost and Heads Found written by Frances Larson. In the book's Sources section the reference is mentioned in the "Prologue:Oliver Cromwell's Head" subsection as:
I've been trying to fix up the Harvard cite issues at the Oliver Cromwell's head article but I've run into a severe problem with this source...it doesn't seem to exist (or at least I cannot find it). The Archaeological Data Service
website which holds the archives for The Royal Archaeological Institute/The Archaeological Journal (the RAI is the organization which publishes the Journal) has no results for H. Howarth or Henry Howarth or any article under the title of The Embalmed Head of Oliver Cromwell.
So, here is the issue:
Unfortunately the PeterSymonds account seems to have gone dormant so I can't ask him where he got the info but it bothers me that I have been unable to find where it came from. Frances Larson does refer to this Howarth content and to it being published by an "Archaeological Journal" located in London but why can't I find it?!? I need some help here - maybe someone reading this can find the actual source material or maybe the sources have somehow possibly gotten mangled in the telling and re-telling of history and sources?...I dunno! Help! Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 17:35, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
There seem to be an awful lot of sports player articles on Wikipedia, and many of them are quite non-notable. Why is there an article on Tracy Baker for example, when, in contrast, WP:PROF makes it exceedingly difficult for the average professor to have an article? Praemonitus ( talk) 03:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
On Wikipedia, nearly every professional athlete in every professional sport is notable. When nearly everyone is notable, no one is notable - it is a catalog or database. Thus we mock them in conversations like this which are perennial. -- Green C 01:10, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Since the beginning of the pandemic, there have been editors adding lines to e.g. amusement parks or colleges saying e.g. In March 2020, it shut down operations due to the
COVID-19 pandemic.
For a while, the clear path was to revert these additions as obvious inappropriate
recentism. We're not fully through the pandemic yet, but it's gone on long enough that it seems like it may ultimately be seen as more of a mini historical era and warrant brief mention the same way we might have a sentence in a history section describing how an institution navigated WW2. To the extent that it's possible to comment on a generalized issue (which I realize is limited), where do you all stand on this question? It ties in to some broader editorial philosophy questions about how to balance the huge reader demand for more current information with the encyclopedic objective of writing for the long term. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk 21:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry if I'm on the wrong place for this, it's my first time using the community pages and I wasn't sure where to approach for this, but I thought it was better to give it a shoot and give notice of this than to let the interface intimidate me from doing it.
I was looking at Category of Lists of proposals and discovered that the page List of proposed Amendments to the US Constitution is almost a carbon copy of List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution, with what few differences it has being product of copying an earlier version of the page. The latter was created in 2004, while the former was a draft created in 2020 which was approved 5 days ago. Maybe I'm missing something, but I think there's no reason for this duplicate to exist. BirdCities ( talk) 21:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Which method is the most popular for editing? Is it the visual editor or the wikitext editor? -- Hey mid ( contribs) 02:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, please see the bot request Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VRTS Migration Bot regarding the migration of OTRS templates visible in articles and files. Thank you. -- Krd 10:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm not linking this trash to avoid any unnecessary exposure. Quote from the post about Gates: Gates, UNICEF & WHO have already been credibly accused of intentionally sterilizing Kenyan children through the use of a hidden HCG antigen in tetanus vaccines.
(for anyone who is curious, try
Reuters)
The problem is that this site is used as a source in dozens of articles. Shouldn't we just blacklist this garbage? — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 13:37, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
This is a friendly notice about a proposal to have yearly based WikiProjects. You can find the proposal by clicking here. Feel free to drop your opinion about it. Elijahandskip ( talk) 14:11, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
UPDATE: Friends, I'm posting this here again because we're looking for more volunteers to cover more parts of the community. Thanks for hearing this message again.
Would you like to get more people taking part in the Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees election?
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees announced the plan for the 2021 Board elections. That plan includes outreach and communication support for the Board elections. The Board election facilitators will:
Voter turnout in prior elections was about 10% globally. It was better in communities with volunteer election support. Some of those communities reached over 20% voter turnout. We know we can get more voters to help assess and promote the best candidates, but to do that, we need your help.
We are looking for volunteers to serve as Election Volunteers. Election Volunteers should have a good understanding of their communities. The facilitation team sees Election Volunteers as doing the following:
Who are the Election Volunteers to connect your community with this movement effort? Is it you? Or someone you know? Check out more details about Election Volunteers and add your name next to the community you will support in this table or get in contact with a facilitator. We aim to have at least one Election Volunteer for Wiki Projects in the top 30 for eligible voters. Even better if there are two or more sharing the work.
Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 19:59, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
How do I create a cool signature with out having to keep copying and pasting stuff on pages? On another wiki called Inkipedia, which is a independent wiki outside of fandom, the users are allowed to create their own signature pages with something like: User:CoolGuy27/sig and then type {{User:CoolGuy27/sig}} on talk pages. Thank you in advance.
-- Yaxops ( talk) 16:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you sorry I didn't use teahouse. Yaxops ( talk) 17:11, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
How does this look?: Yaxops Banter 17:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC) and also I know you were not criticizing, I'm over apologetic.
Okay thank you. I reused that signature from another wiki which is has a black back round so I'll change it. Thank you. Yaxops Banter 17:48, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
@ User:Xaosflux hows this one: Yaxops Banter 17:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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Is it a phishing site? It's even referenced by some Wikipedia articles: [6]. Sasha1024 ( talk) 14:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I won’t bother anymore doing any good faith editing. Leave the laughable errors where they lie, I say. As a person with specialist knowledge, if I see an obvious error, I correct it. I don’t if the statement is more spin or opinion as I’m not visiting the page to engage in arguments, just to check names, dates and similar facts or to use the long-lat link to view a precise location on Google Maps. However, whatever I change is immediately changed back by someone who knows nothing about the topic, citing “lack of sources”. This includes when I have read the cited sources and simply note they don’t actually say what the previous writer claims. Rather than follow the existing cited link to see if I am correct, a Wiki-nerd would rather restore the error. I hated typing up (yes, on a typewriter) the footnotes and bibliography for my undergraduate essays but this is all you really want to read, isn’t it? You are not interested in the actual essay, only the citations. Apparently, to correct laughable errors in one’s area of expertise, one has to also spend the time first becoming a Wiki nerd, specializing solely in Wikipedia. I spent decades slowly developing specialist knowledge but learning computer programs and similar online procedures as I enter my seventh decade is a waste of my time as software and social media change every few months and I then have to start over. In the end it seems that on Wikipedia, the generalist trumps the specialist, the young edit the old, and your pages are dominated by those who know nothing except how to properly edit Wikipedia. Enjoy your hobby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 11:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
This includes when I have read the cited sources and simply note they don’t actually say what the previous writer claims. Rather than follow the existing cited link to see if I am correct, a Wiki-nerd would rather restore the error.", that's not what actually happened. You identified that the quote wasn't in the linked source, and someone found an archived copy of the source from before the quote was removed and updated the reference to refer to that copy. Anomie ⚔ 11:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes, after I “yelled” at you. Also, the anachronistic use of “Blue Max” pre-WWI continues so I correct it when I see it. Sometimes it’s reversed, sometimes not. Most recently, placing von Clausewitz at the Battle of Göhrde was removed, despite the contents of Wiki page on the Russo-German Legion. In short, enjoy your hobby, which is not publishing encyclopedic knowledge but publishing Wikipedia as an end in itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk • contribs)
This lacks common sense. Do two minutes of research before changing it back, even just within Wikipedia. If someone says Carl von Clausewitz was a commander at the Battle of Göhrde (as Chief of Staff of the Russo-German Legion), assume he was in fact just that. What’s the risk? Why would I lie? It’s not like I’m going in and adding Israel to a list of countries committing ethnic cleansing, ethno-chauvinism, and breaches of international law. That would be controversial even if true, and should be watched for closely. Your approach just preserves the status quo, even if it is laughably wrong. For example, look at the page for “Seven Days to the River Rhine”. Some yahoo has listed several Western European Communist Party leaders as “Commanders & Leaders” of the Warsaw Pact forces. They weren’t. There is no source cited. This is just someone’s political spin. The Red Army did not take George Marchais into its confidence. He had no role in formulating this Plan. But if I change this, you’ll just change it back so why bother. I could go upstairs, pull the book off the shelf, and cite Donald Stoker, “Clausewitz: His Life and Work”, Oxford University Press, chapter 8, pages 185-187, but how do you know that’s not also a lie? What strikes me is the complete lack of subject-matter knowledge of the Wiki person determining that the content must not change. You have built a system destined to deliver uninformed and static content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk • contribs)
Actually, you don’t verify content, only changes. Go look at the example I just gave (“Seven Days to the River Rhine”). This joke will now stand until the end of time under your careful watch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk • contribs)
To prove a negative? Can you prove you are not a CIA agent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 23:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
assume he was in fact just thatif you say so? — El Millo ( talk) 23:45, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I gave you a source above — Donald Stocker’s book — but also asked, how do you know I didn’t make that up? If I’m a lying vandal, why would I draw the line at fake sources? Doing lying vandals have a moral code that stops them from falsifying sources?
Here’s a crazy idea. Before you delete something that common sense says looks at least plausible, open another tab on your browser and Google “von Clausewitz battle of Göhrde“. There you will immediately see (no scrolling, no digging) three pages pages confirming he was in fact a commander at Göhrde.
If so, don’t go to the trouble of editing the page. Just leave it alone because it seems to be right. You do know what Google is, don’t you? The first search page on Google turns up this:
“This Week's Discovery: Eleonore Prochaska, the legendary woman who fought against Napoleon dressed as a man, did serve under Clausewitz. She was wounded and died in the Battle of Göhrde, the same battle Clausewitz, as chief of staff for Wallmoden Corps, planned and led troops. After Göhrde, Clausewitz was promoted to a full colonel.”
OR
“Clausewitz spent the rest of 1813 and the campaign of 1814 serving with the Russo-German Legion, the unit he was originally appointed to raise in 1812. In 1813 this legion was part of Wallmoden's corps, itself part of Bernadotte's Army of the North. Wallmoden had a mixed force, mainly made up of levies or recent volunteers, with a small core of regular troops. It was used on the campaign around Hamburg. During this period Clausewitz commanded at the Action of the Göhrde (16 September 1813), a minor Allied victory in which a French force under General Marc-Nicolas-Louis Pécheux was forced to retreat into Hamburg.”
OR
“As a Russian officer he superin tended the formation of the Landwehr of East Prussia, and in the campaign of 1813 served as chief of staff to Count Wallmoden. He conducted the fight at Göhrde, and after the armistice, with Gneisenau's permission, published an account of the campaign (Der Feldzug von 1813 bis zum Waffenstillstand, Leipzig, 1813).”
The point is, deleting something is a conscious decision to suppress new information, preserving an omission. Over time, you are advancing ignorance, not knowledge. Make a little effort or do nothing at all is what I’m saying. If you don’t know, do nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 00:13, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Okay, it’s there now. Let’s see if it stays. :| — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 15:57, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
We hope this message finds you well and safe. The COVID 19 situation continues to affect many of us across the globe and our thoughts are with everyone affected. We are also aware that there are several processes currently in progress that demand volunteer time and we do not want to add more work to anyone's plate.
We do want to draw your attention to our new Regional Committees for Grants though as they are an opportunity for you to have an active say in the future of our Movement!
📣 So today, we invite you to join our new Regional Committees for Grants! 📣
We encourage Wikimedians and Free Knowledge advocates to be part of the new Regional Committees that the WMF Community Resources team is setting up as part of the grants strategy relaunch [7]. You will be a key strategic thought partner to help understand the complexities of any region, provide knowledge and expertise to applicants, to support successful movement activities, and make funding decisions for grant applications in the region.
👉Find out more on meta [8].
Regional Committees will be established for the following regions:
👉All details about the Committees and how to apply can be found on meta [10]. Applications have to be submitted by June 4, 2021!
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Just in case someone wanted to know. It tracks category sizes over time. {{ CatTrack}} and toolforge:apersonbot/cat-track for more. Enterprisey ( talk!) 00:24, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:The Core Contest will be running again from June 1, in case anyone wants to flex their writing muscles :) Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:49, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
I do not propose a change of policies. I propose that you simplify your signature.
(Background: Earlier today,
User:Jorm explained to me on
Wikipedia talk:Signatures how confusing our signature system is for newbies. Are the people with red/green/orange signatures moderators? Or what does the colour coding mean? Why does the response to a post signed
苦思馬 start with {{
re|Kusma}}
? Confusion about any of these points can cost us potential editors. According to Jorm, it is a widespread problem).
Please do not ask anyone else personally to change their signature, as they might be quite attached to it. Just simplify your signature if you can. Do it for the newbies. Thank you. —
Kusma (
talk) 22:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Can I download a dump that contains only texts, with only the first section of the article, like in here [12]?
If no, will it be problematic to download thousands of articles (one article at a time)?
Thank you! רן כהן ( talk) 07:14, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Sorry to bother wikipedians, but I have an unsolvable problem. Recently I went to https://ilostat.ilo.org/topics/informality/ and downloaded the table "informal employment and informal sector" there, and there was a layout specifically for informal employment in the formal sector and informal employment in the informal sector. Today I go there to clarify links and there is no indicator. Just cry, even shoot, well, there is none in nature at all! Moreover, there is a description of the indicator, but it is generally absent in nature. Please, who knows where he is, please help! -- Vyacheslav84 ( talk) 15:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
I have put in a request for a geo-targeted CentralNotice for a virtual Asia-Pacific Wikipedia 20 event on January 16. See the request on meta at m:CentralNotice/Request/WP20 Asia-Pacific.-- Pharos ( talk) 20:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, can you help me at this article? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prof.Bilmiş ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
A Stanford Internet Observatory article titled "Inauthentic Editing: Changing Wikipedia to Win Elections and Influence People" discusses "one case of 'inauthentic editing'—where individuals targeted the Wikipedia pages of two contending politicians during the 2020 British Columbia (BC) general provincial election." ( John Horgan and Andrew Wilkinson.) I thought I would share it here in case anyone else finds the perspective to be helpful. Best, Tony Tan · talk 17:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello! I'm Ed Erhart, part of the Wikimedia Foundation's Communications department. (You might know me better as The ed17.)
Have you ever wanted to ask an astronaut a question about living in space or the science that's done on the International Space Station (ISS)? Or perhaps you're expanding an article on human spaceflight and can't find a citation for an important bit of information? We're looking for community input on questions to ask a NASA astronaut.
For Wikipedia's 20th birthday, coming up on 15 January, and 20 years of continuous occupation of the ISS, we're working with Modest Genius to broadcast an interview with that NASA astronaut. Suitable topics would include Wikipedia's coverage of astronautics, scientific contributions made by crewed spaceflight over the last twenty years, and plans for the next two decades of spaceflight. We'll select the best questions to put to the astronaut.
If you have questions to submit, please respond below or send them to me via email by Sunday, 10 January (UTC). Thank you! Ed Erhart (WMF) ( talk) 22:51, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
This category is exclusively comprised of transclusions of the main AfD log, which by definition is not supposed to be deleted, and it does not even transclude the G7 template, nor even mention G7. JJP...MASTER! [talk to] JJP... master? 13:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a discussion ongoing at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 3#Category:University of Zagreb faculty about this topic, input would be welcome so we don't end up with yet another barely noticed no-consensus discussion. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 18:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § Proposal to change logo for 20th anniversary. — Wug· a·po·des 22:47, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm working on a revamp of some of the instructions for student editors in Wiki Education courses, specifically for when they are assigned to either evaluate an article (as an early assignment to learn about Wikipedia article quality standards and think critically about content and sources) or to peer review a classmate's draft work. I want to include links to a collection of examples of the kinds of useful and substantive feedback they should be aiming for, and I want to cover a range of quality levels and article topics. It's easy to find good examples for really well-deleveloped articles (for example, in GA and FA reviews), but I'm having trouble finding a diverse range of examples of good feedback for articles in the Start to B range.
If you have examples of critical, substantive, useful feedback on articles that have a long way to go, please share some!-- Sage (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 21:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
There have been over 2000 attempts to log in to my account in the last day. Usually, it is just a couple a week. Wondering if anyone else is seeing activity like this... -- Sam uelWantman 21:50, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Over the last few days, I've gotten warnings about 'multiple failed login attempts from a new device' targeting my account on en wiki. Is there anything I can do besides what is described in Help:Two-factor authentication? I think my password is strong but is there a way to disable access to my account for some period from any new device? Can I get information on what device/IP attempted to access my account? (I'll also add that I've been a subject of wiki-related real-life harassment of which Trust&Safety and ArbCom are aware of, and this leads me to conclude - Ockham's razor - that said attempts are coming from an individual who received a site ban for similar activities). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Is there anything like a commemorative badge or logo that we can place on our user pages to show "I was here"? Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 11:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
FYI, in an interview published by Der Spiegel on Jan. 11,
Jimmy Wales was quoted as saying: "Wir würden nie eine Spende akzeptieren, die unsere redaktionelle Unabhängigkeit kompromittiert."
(English:) "We would never accept a (subsidy/gift/contribution) that compromised our editorial independence." (My trans.)
Presumably he said it in English, but the
article is in German (and alas it's paywalled, too). –
Sca (
talk) 16:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Are there categories for people who saved the life or someone else? Also for people who died while saving other people? For people like Emmanuel Mensah (soldier).
Not sure Category:Humanitarians apply for such cases because Category:Humanitarians might be about people who make donations, campaigns, and other things planned in time, for a cause, and not for people who get to act with courage spontaneously in unexpected situations.
Lucas Silverio Mendoza is another example. They both belong to some categories like: "Rescuers who saved human lives" - "People who died from saving others" and also "People who have streets named after them".
How about lists containing people like these two? Barecode ( talk) 22:13, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Here is how the scam works:
Most of the time it will not work, but some times it will, that is enough if you live in a place where $100 is good money. I think there is evidence these extortionists are real and the AfD system can be/has been compromised. It's not worse than the low grade phone scam corruption we all deal with, in fact pretty similar. -- Green C 23:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
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Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.
ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi there! The WMF starts a Call for Feedback about community-and-affiliated seat selection processes, resulting from the recent approval of bylaws amendments. This call for feedback is going to start on Monday Feb 1 and will run until March 14.
Full details will be published on Monday at Call for Feedback:Community Board Seats. Discuss on the Talk page for general comments. Translated pages welcome discussions in multiple languages. If you are a user of Telegram, you can receive updates in the announcement Telegram group or join the discussion in this discussion Telegram group.
Furthermore we are organizing three different office hour sessions (for different time zones) on Tuesday, Feb 2 (see Call for Feedback:Community Board Seats). There we will introduce the call for feedback and will be available for any questions and comments.
We are looking for a broad representation of opinions. We welcome conversations in any language and in any channel. If you want us to organize a conversation or a meeting for your wiki project or your affiliate, please contact us. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 21:52, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
This is the announcement for the
Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.
For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:
Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.
We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and
submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!
Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrantswikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 08:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
I've been going through ESP and EEP requests, but now I just realised there's well over 100 entries on this one... Some additional hands on deck to clear this backlog would not be a bad idea. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 15:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Note that Tochinoumi Teruyoshi died on 29 january. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 11:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Could an admin protect the Vajiralongkorn article against IP-edits? A lot of vandalism is going on. -- FredTC ( talk) 13:08, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I´m looking for someone who knows how wikitables work to fix one at Climate emergency declaration.
I´d like to fix the table placed in /info/en/?search=Climate_emergency_declaration#Countries_and_jurisdictions_that_have_declared_Climate_Emergency and improve it ( /info/en/?search=Talk:Climate_emergency_declaration#Let%C2%B4s_improve_the_table) Thank you very much, -- Javiermes ( talk) 11:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing new free, full-access, accounts to reliable sources as part of our research access program. You can sign up to access research materials on the Library Card platform:
We have a wide array of other collections available, and a significant number now no longer require individual applications to access! Read more in our blog post.
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects!
--12:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
I will never donate to you when you post leftist opinions describing conservative representatives. Shame on you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.24.157 ( talk) 23:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Please, check is this edit correct. I’m not sure in it. 217.117.125.88 ( talk) 10:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I wonder if any Wikipedians are involved with projects to mass-archive publications? I found copies of the Hong Kong Daily Press online from 1941 on back.
This ties into Wikipedia as these articles can be used as sources in the future.
There are about 25K or so issues on the internet that I would like to see archived due to the unpredictability of the government in HK. Would any Wikimedians suggest some people who are willing to do this?
Thanks, WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.
You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.
Please support us in translating the project page and a banner message to help us spread the word in your native language.
Kind regards,
Wiki loves Folklore International Team
MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Please note that Samuel Vestey died on 4 february according to Google. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 16:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello! I am currently conducting research with York University, To, ON, CA. The research project is focused on the effort made by Wikipedians to uphold Wikipedia as effective, legitimate and useful. If you are interested please just comment, if you have any ideas to contribute it would be greatly appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reciprocal learning yute ( talk • contribs) 02:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Dear colleagues! From 25 January to 10 March 2021, Wikimedia RU is organising a thematic competition dedicated to the creation and expansion of Wikipedia articles about works of new Russian literature, derived works, as well as all significant authors writing in Russian after 1990. In nomination No. 2, articles in English are accepted. Read more about the rules of the competition on its official page. JukoFF ( talk) 22:36, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I'm working on some edits, at one place I need a template that returns me the current date in mm/dd/yyyy format ( for example, 02/09/2021 for today, February 09, 2021) All existing date templates I found after extensive searching in Category:Date-computing_templates_based_on_current_time returns the month in words not in numerical digits. I request that someone please make a template to return the current date in mm/dd/yyyy format. Thank you! CX Zoom ( talk) 16:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#time:m/d/Y}}
gives 04/27/2024.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 17:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
{{Div col|colwidth, {{Cast listing|, {{columns-list|colwidth - don't work anymore, why? The lists are not split anymore, this is bad. Can you provide a link to discuss this issue? 92.100.124.8 ( talk) 01:18, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I want to announce the first weekly report for the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats is published.
The Call for Feedback about Community Board seats selection processes is happening February 1 and March 14. With the help of a team of community facilitators, we are organizing conversations and gathering feedback. During this call for feedback we publish weekly reports and we draft the final report that will be delivered to the Board. This report covers new activity February 1-7.
If you think anything relevant is missing, let us know in the Talk page and we will consider its inclusion in the next weekly report. Your feedback is welcome and appreciated.
Finally, it is not too late to join the conversation! Talk to you all soon! Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 18:22, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
Greetings!
You are invited to participate in Feminism and Folklore writing contest. This year Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's biographies and gender-focused topics for the project in league with Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus with folk culture theme on Wikipedia. folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, fairy tales, folk plays, folk arts, folk religion, mythology, etc.
You can help us in enriching the folklore documentation on Wikipedia from your region by creating or improving articles centered on folklore around the world, including, but not limited to folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer personalities in folklore, folk culture (folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch-hunting, fairy tales and more. You can contribute to new articles or translate from the list of suggested articles here.
You can also support us in translating the project page and help us spread the word in your native language.
Learn more about the contest and prizes from our project page. Thank you.
Feminism and Folklore team,
Joy Agyepong ( talk) 02:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I want to announce the second office hours for the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats.
The Call for Feedback about Community Board seats selection processes is happening February 1 and March 14. With the help of a team of community facilitators, we are organizing conversations and gathering feedback. It is not too late to join the conversation! Talk to you all soon! Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 22:52, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
(WP:VP is an abbreviated link to Wikipedia: Village Pump - may be just English wikipedia - unsure.)
I've just been reading a couple of posts on the Policy village pump and come across some abbreviations I don't know. POV is Point of View. What is SPA? But more to the point, there is no obvious link to a page that defines any and all abbreviations used on the village pump pages. Surely there should be such a page - and if there is it should be readily findable. -- SGBailey ( talk) 17:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Can somebody please settle a discussion here: Talk:Eirik Kristoffersen#Awards, again-- Znuddel ( talk) 22:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Designer Linus Bowman recently made a (likely controversial) YouTube critique of Wikipedia's logo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deemTUM58cs. It's very well-informed for someone not a Wikipedian, and—agree or disagree—it's definitely well thought through. What do you all think? (Discovery credit to Geni earlier on Discord.) {{u| Sdkb}} talk 19:05, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
.mw-wiki-logo { background-image: url(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg)}
Vexations (
talk) 20:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
$('#p-logo').hide().removeAttr('id');
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GhostInTheMachine
talk to me 15:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)This video is hard to take into consideration when he is directly blaming the Wikipedia community for their "incompetence" as to why the logo is the way that it is. And although i do agree not everyone is a professional at Wikipedia, that doesn't mean there aren't any professionals at all. I do agree the logo needs refinement, but I disagree that the logo is "bad" overall, and it's still iconic to this day. Another gripe I have with the video is the claims he's the majority of people when he says the logo is bad. I'm not against the argument, but without any substantial proof, it's just another attempt to seem like Wikipedia is out of touch with the community and blaming the logo because of it. I just do not agree with the approach. What's worst about the video is he gave vague advice but didn't give a hint as to how to tackle the problem.
With that said, It's a personal passion for me to study and review logo designs as a hobby. I don't think most of the points are I'm not against refining the logo or changing it. But if that topic is to come up, I think it would be more productive to not highlight that specific video and just the points. Based on my inspection of the logo, it continues to have an "early-internet" vibe, and it's not because of the graphic. The Word-mark aspect of the logo appears to be just the word "Wikipedia" with the W and A at slightly different font size and some minor modified spacing. The awkward spacing causes some issues with the W appears more separated from the rest of the text. I would even say that the font used is out-dated. These are just my opinions of course. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 22:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
As was posted earlier on VPT, we're participating in Outreachy/GSoC, which means that students will be paid to work on some of our bugs or feature requests. If anyone has a community wishlist item that hasn't yet been done but would be very impactful, please let me know (here or on my talk page). Unfortunately, I can't mentor anything involving PHP or MediaWiki extensions (because I know next to nothing about the former), but I can do stuff involving new tools, bots, or user scripts. If you would also like to get involved as a mentor (i.e. project manager - see this guide), that would be most appreciated, and would make the project much more likely to be "accepted" and actually have someone work on it. Enterprisey ( talk!) 09:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
I love Wikipedia, depend on it, and support it, and the Main Page is my home page. I read it every day. I understand why you have, for example, sports information, even though I don't care about sports. But over time, the choice of articles seems to dwell too heavily on a few obscure topics. I think most of us have seen more than enough about the administrators of Georgetown University and about Indonesian cinema. Thanks! Curmudgeonly Pedant ( talk) 20:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Besides adding that there's also been enough about the Australian military, I take issue with Izno's comment that implies the problem (or what I see as a problem) is my fault. I cannot be the case that the three topics I've mentioned are so heavily represented among new content that whoever chooses what to feature has no choice but to include them so often. Curmudgeonly Pedant ( talk) 16:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Curmudgeonly Pedant has pointed out a very valid problem that too much of the content on the Main Page is chosen to satisfy editors as opposed to readers. There's no reason that we have to restrict ourselves to drawing DYKs from new articles (which means that some topics will always make outsized appearances because specialist editors will nominate their own new work), or that we couldn't take a harder stance about TFAs with recent similar precedents or the flood of sports ITN items. Dismissing that concern with "well then go create some articles yourself" is not only patronizing (people should be allowed to point out problems without becoming obligated to solve them) but misses the point. Yes, we'd always like new contributors, but unless contributors become more evenly distributed across content areas (which won't happen anytime soon), the problem won't solve itself. We need to start putting readers first and designing the main page to interest them, rather than just using it to reward ourselves with prominent placement for our work. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 21:42, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
chosen to satisfy editors as opposed to readersIf in fact you mean "satisfy the general requirements that we have for all articles, desiring not to showcase articles that don't", sure. I am not dismissing the concern; I am indicating that there is a fix already available to the person in question--hence why I used the word ensure. He literally can be the person to change what is featured on the main page. Changing how our processes works in any significant fashion so as to highlight articles which don't meet some fairly low but arbitrary bars is about as likely as your tangent about content diversity. Anything else refuses to acknowledge the realities of how our main page works, which is also patronizing. -- Izno ( talk) 21:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Friends, I'm delighted that my comment didn't just fall into a hole. I'm also humbled to think more about how much work by dedicated people, at many levels, goes into the main page (and all of Wikipedia): I've been badly trained as an American consumer, and I'll just take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributes to this vitally important project. I poked around enough to find out that Wikipedia editors identify Featured Articles/Pictures (no further process information found) and then two individuals choose the Featured Article of the Day; once these two became real people in my mind, well, if one of them has a fondness for Georgetown University and the other for the Australian military, I'll accept that as the price of admission; similarly for the Featured Picture skewing towards Indonesian cinema. However, I would speculate, contrary to some of the comments above, that it is not the case that there are just so many outstanding articles/pictures on these three topics written/photographed that the (unexplained) process of nominations for Featured status and then the choice of main page placement give proportional representation to all topics. And finally, yes, I should ping everyone who has commented on this thread, and I looked up how to do so; the very complete article was not composed for someone who is new to editing Wikipedia, although I'm sure it's clear as day to all of you; this may be a good example of how difficult it is for us newbies to get involved. Curmudgeonly Pedant ( talk) 14:27, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
What exactly are we hoping to resolve with this discussion?-- WaltCip-( talk) 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi Curmudgeonly Pedant! I understand your main concern here. Unfortunately, this problem is a perpetual problem. If we were to focus on reader's interest, then we should consider that most readers are from Anglophone countries, causing us to only include materials that are well known to anglophone countries in the mainpage, thus completely going against one of our current goals in Wikipedia. But I'm thinking about something in the middle, probably non-specific country articles are proper enough to satisfy readers but still in line with countering bias. Do you consider biology topics interesting enough to appear in the mainpage? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
As an aside, can we please refrain from displaying articles with vulgar language on the front page? The DIY section that details the Reddit username "DeepFuckingValue" seems unnecessary. There are many children that use this sight, not to mention it looks unprofessional. TalkingOrder 12:27, 19 February 2021 (CST)
It was jarring to look at the main page one day, see a picture of Porfirije in the news, and then the next day see him ten years younger and in a very bad mood. I'm just saying. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 14:42, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, I am writing here to let you know a few things:
Do reach out if you have any questions or comments. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 13:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
I wonder if its possible to execute javascript in Wikipedia user pages, so that I can stop my user page from being able to be vandalised with a solution like putting wgRestrictionEdit:["4D4850"]; or something else to cause protection. Please can someone tell me if executable javascript is usable in the user namespace? 4D4850 ( talk) 23:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
01:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I have been working with Wiki for several years (see User:Beebuk). Lately, I have had to give up my old computer and begin on a new one, and, when I tried to log into Wikipedia, I was told that either my user name or my password was wrong (even though I had a written record of both). After much searching, I discovered that, according to my account information, my user name is listed, not as Beebuk, but as Rfstorey. When I tried to change it to Beebuk, I only ended up with a new account, as evidenced by my signature, in red, at the end of this query. How in the world can I retrieve my old identity? Beebuk ( talk) 22:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Apparent solution: [3]
Important lessons:
-- Guy Macon ( talk) 01:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
There were several attempts in the last few hours to guess my password. This is usually directed against a large number of accounts. Just a heads up. ☆ Bri ( talk) 19:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
If this is on other apps that have 2fa get a titan key so your account can only be opened by that key its a physical usb thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9004:915:7000:1C50:6220:1437:9C88 ( talk) 20:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
The Facilitation team invites you to a round of panel sessions March 12 - 14 in the last days of the Call for feedback: Community Board seats.
We are confirming guests and times, and we are updating the wiki pages accordingly. Expect 90-minute sessions with video recording: 45 minutes for a panel to dive deep into possible scenarios followed by 45 minutes to continue the conversation with open mic for all participants. You can share your questions and comments now on the panel Talk pages. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 20:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
I just commented at Talk:List of Wikipedia mobile applications (section: F-Droid or Google Play?) about the opportunity of including a link to F-Droid,s version of the official app (besides Google Play's) on the main page (I mean https://www.wikipedia.org/).
I am leaving the suggestion there, as it is also a consistency issue between that article and the main page, but I am not sure if/where I have to report specifically for changes to the main page. 194.230.155.139 ( talk) 14:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
I believe this is the complaints section? For another illustration of how broken Wikidata is, consider COSI which is showing a not-very-helpful error ("Lua error in Module:Mapframe at line 379: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'lat_d' (a nil value)") in the infobox. That error was caused by a 9 March 2021 edit by DeltaBot at Wikidata: diff ("move claim coordinate location (P625) -> headquarters location (P159)"). In other words, an article here using the optimistic {{ Wikidatacoord}} to get coordinates from Wikidata will break if something decides the coordinates actually should be called something else. Presumably, from the point of view of the Wikidata design, the error is the fault of the enwiki template which should know to try getting coordinates from each of the dozen different places where they might be applied, now or in the future. Johnuniq ( talk) 09:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I just spent a long time working out why five articles are displaying "No value was provided for longitude" errors: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5. It's because d:Q21578 had the same bot edit to rename the coordinates entry. @ Sdkb: As the author of Template:U.S. News top 10, I was going to drop the problem on you when I worked out the problem. What can be done? Johnuniq ( talk) 06:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
{{wikidata|property|raw|page={{{1}}}|coord}}
here so that they accept coordinates that are qualifiers of P159 rather than just given as P625. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk 07:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Hello
I summarized our need and the rationale here c:Commons talk:Wiki Loves Africa 2021/jury. In short, last year, some national teams have asked for help from Commonists (from other countries !) to join the selection juries. We would wholeheartedly welcome a handfull of volunteers, speaking either of those languages: English, Arabic and French. I am sharing with you last year list of local teams who run a selection process Commons:Wiki Loves Africa 2020/National winners. I think that this year they will be less numerous though, but they will be from these countries pool. Add your name if you have super skills in photography and if you are willing to help ! Thanks in advance Anthere ( talk) 13:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion on the Manual of Style talk page about whether or not to capitalise internet when referring to the Internet; if you wish to participate, please see Wikipedia_talk:Manual of style#The capitalisation of "Internet" (referring to the global interconnected network generally used today). Thank you. DesertPipeline ( talk) 13:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at MediaWiki talk:Linkshere regarding adding a link to LinkCount to the WhatLinksHere special page, any feedback about the tool is also welcome. See MediaWiki talk:Linkshere#Protected edit request on 8 March 2021 to participate. Thank you. – BrandonXLF ( talk) 17:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Just a short message to call people interested to review, comment and discuss my PhD thesis on Wikimedia movement. All the best, Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact (French native speaker) 19:28, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I am a Wikipedian of the Spanish Wikipedia. We have been arguing at our village pump for weeks because we cannot agree on the date of our 20th anniversary. Some say May 11, others May 18, others May 20 ... and others directly want to celebrate the entire month of May. I appeal to the English Wikipedia for help...! Isn't there a way that we can clearly know the precise day? Thanks. – El Mono Español ( talk) 13:36, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Imagine you’ve just spent 10 minutes working on what you earnestly thought would be a helpful edit to your favorite article. You click that bright blue “Publish changes” button for the very first time, and you see your edit go live! Weeee! But 10 seconds later, you refresh the page and discover that your edit has been reverted.
Actually, an AI system - called ORES- has contributed to the judgement of hundreds of thousands of edits on Wikipedia. ORES is a machine learning system that automatically predicts edit and article quality to support editing tools in Wikipedia.
I'm exploring strategies for tuning ORES predictions about quality and vandalism to your needs and I'd like to work with you. I am are looking for editors to discuss the values of Wikipedia as it relates to ORES.
If you are interested in participating, please fill out the short survey below. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe7itK8GM6Y7vgWdtcFXXnsJ8iWe9ysjQI8S1KVtomfonbkxw/viewform -- EpochFail ( talk • contribs) 19:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Please see Category talk:Faculty by university or college#Request for comment on naming. -- Joy [shallot] ( talk) 15:33, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability § RfC: Visual changes to the new article editnotice. The discussion is a little old, but a related edit request was just declined with advice to seek further input, so additional participation is needed. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:22, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
I blocked User:Ayuel Monykuch Arop a while ago and found I couldn't delete the user page even though it constitutes advertising. Other than replacing it with a template - and I can't find a suitable one - I don't know what to do about it. Deb ( talk) 10:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the Commons Picture of the year competition for 2020 will get started? ( COM:POTY) I haven't asked there as COM:POTY doesn't seem to have a talk page. -- SGBailey ( talk) 08:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sweep § Project launch. This new project aims to comprehensively review every article created in Wikipedia's early days to ensure basic conformity to modern standards. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 04:16, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
We have concluded the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats. Thank you everyone who participated.
During the Call for Feedback period from February 1 to March 14, a team of 10 facilitators organized open and inclusive community discussions to gather feedback about ideas for trustee selection processes for community-and-affiliate Board seats. Some facilitators had a regional focus; some had a language focus. The intention was for the combined facilitation team to obtain a fair representation of the movement’s diversity and create a report for the Board. The facilitation team used the Weekly Reports as the main source of information to create the main report.
A draft of the Call for Feedback: Community Board seats main report is now available. It will be available for community comment until Monday, March 29.
After the community comment period the facilitation team will send the main report to the Board. The feedback in the main report informs the Board’s decision about these potential changes to trustee selection processes, procedures, and tools to meet the goals of the Board.
Please reach out if you have any questions or comments. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 13:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia has always grown organically. Many articles have grown from stubs to FA's. Moving articles out of main space doesn't seem very conducive to this, but this is being done at an accelerating rate recently.
OK I admit my stub for Winner Take All (1975 film)] wasn't much, but it was a start. It was something that could be built on, there were plenty of notable actors etc involved. There's a clear WP:RECENTISM bias in wikipedia in that relatively obscure films from the 70s have difficulty finding internet sources while recent films have no such problems. It seems to me this trend of ghettoising new articles is yet another discouragement to new editors (as well as a bit insulting to more experienced editors). Could we slow down the moving to draft space trend? MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 11:42, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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tags-block the save. Crude but not devastating.The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello! Is it possible for you to correct errors regarding flags of Bulgaria and South Korea and also Spain at the Olympic Games. In the 1948 Winter Olympics the Bulgarian flag should be that from 1948 until 1967 regarding that they changed the flag three days prior to the games. South Korea used the variant until 1948 in both the 1948 Summer and Winter Olympics because they changed flag in October of that year. In the 1984 Summer and Winter Olympics they used the flag until 1984 on both occasions until they changed flag in October of that year. Spain's flag at the 1980 Olympics should be the Spanish Olympic Committee flag and not the Olympic flag. Check sources and see what you find out. Sincerely yours, Sondre -- 80.212.169.236 ( talk) 20:40, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Sailing moose just told me about Unpaywall, which is a browser extension that lets you locate free versions of paywalled scholarly articles. Just spreading the word about what looks like an amazingly useful tool. If you belong to a wikiproject that works on academic research topics, please let them know about this. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I just want to put a suggestion to whoever is in-charge of putting the banner/ads which we see occasionally. Which is the right venue?
I've been a longstanding editor and it doesn't reflect well that I myself don't know where to post this.
Ugog-public (
talk) 04:09, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Should Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan have an admin template placed on her article due to User:Xaosflux/Requests for adminship/Wikipe-tan? (Oinkers42) ( talk) 23:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I was just curious if there was a website out there that maybe doesn't preserve the video format, but the content of the videos. Videos are harder to archive so i was curious if there was an alternative out there. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 13:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
This template need some rework. The Type row made this template weird.-- John123521 ( Talk- Contib.) 14:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
It’s Wikipedia:Wikipedia Challenges, I have a BFDI-related one and you can suggest your own. Another Wiki User the 2nd ( talk) 20:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
It is time we ended this nonsense. It was all very well when wikipedia started, but now wikipedia is serious. No other encyclopedia runs close to the influence wikipedia has. Also, the April Fool Day fun is restricted to a very few countries and many users of wikipedia will have no idea what it is about. (originally posted at the Teahouse) -- Bduke ( talk) 02:01, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
When "Curtido" is searched in google, the wikipedia preview says the country of Origin is Mexico, but in the page itself on Wikipedia it says El Salvador. I have no idea how to correct this. Just reporting it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:280:4100:6140:55DB:A9C:79A8:F3D7 ( talk) 09:51, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a universal baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire Wikimedia movement and all its projects. The project is currently in Phase 2, outlining clear enforcement pathways. You can read more about the whole project on its project page.
The Wikimedia Foundation is recruiting volunteers to join a committee to draft how to make the code enforceable. Volunteers on the committee will commit between 2 and 6 hours per week from late April through July and again in October and November. It is important that the committee be diverse and inclusive, and have a range of experiences, including both experienced users and newcomers, and those who have received or responded to, as well as those who have been falsely accused of harassment.
To apply and learn more about the process, see Universal Code of Conduct/Drafting committee.
From 5 April – 5 May 2021 there will be conversations on many Wikimedia projects about how to enforce the UCoC. We are looking for volunteers to translate key material, as well as to help host consultations on their own languages or projects using suggested key questions. If you are interested in volunteering for either of these roles, please contact us in whatever language you are most comfortable.
To learn more about this work and other conversations taking place, see Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations.
-- Xeno (WMF) ( talk)
20:45, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Further to the above, I've opened an RfC at Wikipedia:Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultation, and community comments are invited. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 22:40, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello!
According to the list, your wiki project is currently opted in to the global bot policy. As such, I want to let you know about some changes that were made after the global RfC was closed.
Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
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Thanks for the fish!
talk•
contribs 18:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Look at Talk:Emily Brooke. I just posted in that talk page a message and I want to know if anyone has opinions about it. (Please make only comments that would be valid with ANY requested move that one might want to propose but that they're too afraid there will be lots of oppose votes.) Georgia guy ( talk) 21:41, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
As I type these words, it is April 1 2021, which is Maundy Thursday in 2021. It is also April Fool's Day. Can I therefore ask all Recent Changes Watchers to be especially vigilant of newly created articles today, as some of them might be hoaxes as April Fool's Day jokes. There was a very famous hoax in which Panorama declared that spaghetti grows on trees - it was an April Fool's Day joke. If it was not Panorama, it might have been Horizon. Rollo August ( talk) 16:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
All right I shall confess that when I was editing Wikipedia under the name Vorbee (I have a new laptop now) I did create a joke article on a made-up pop group called "Heidegger Returns to Ontology" on April 1. This was deleted almost immediately as a mild celebration of April Fool's Day. Rollo August ( talk) 21:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Dennis F. Rasmussen needs an advertisement-like hatnote ( puffery)
Hi all! The Community Resilience & Sustainability team at the Wikimedia Foundation is hosting an office hour led by its Vice President Maggie Dennis. Topics within scope for this call include Movement Strategy coordination (recently transferred to CR&S), Trust and Safety (and the Universal Code of Conduct), Community Development, and Human Rights. Come with your questions or feedback, and let’s talk! You can also send us your questions in advance.
The meeting will be on April 17 at 15:00 UTC check your local time.
You can check all the details on Meta. Hope to see you there!
Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 20:37, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
See User_talk:Uni3993#Citations_needed. Perhaps the help pages need more material on the How to add the citation. The existing documentation for citations is a step up in skills needed, when compared to the Help tutorial. -- Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 00:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
I learned something today: it looks very much like Google does not index orphan articles. Either that, or there's some other explanation why Christ Community Health Services is not in Google's index after a month in main space. This article was created by a Wiki Education student as a user subpage on 11 February, and moved to main space on 15 March. In my experience, Google finds and indexes new Wikipedia articles in minutes or hours. It cannot be an aberration that one month later, this article is still not in their index.
Note that it is not the case that Google is unaware of the url; on the contrary, clearly it is aware of it, and has multiple in-links to it in their index. A targeted site search at wikipedia.org returns nine total pages at Wikipedia with the exact phrase "Christ Community Health Services", but the article itself is not among them, although it would clearly be the most relevant result, if indexed. The search results are eight Category pages, including Category:Orphaned articles from March 2021, as well as the non-category page Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics/New articles. Since it's not that Google doesn't know about the page; it must be that the article doesn't meet the criteria for appearing in the index (or at the very least, in their query results, which practically speaking is the same thing). (It may be that soon there will be ten pages in the search results, once Google sees this page and indexes it. Somebody please note the timestamp, when you first notice that.)
I'd ask that readers here not de-orphan the article for a few days, in order to give other interested users here the ability to observe and verify this first, and to comment if they wish to. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 19:56, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Several thousand articles exist for purported places in Azerbaijan that were mass-created in a problematic way from GEOnet. We have had similar problems with Iran articles (see earlier on the same noticeboard) and California articles (see Wikipedia:Reliability of GNIS data and Wikipedia:WikiProject California/GNIS cleanup task force) and have quite a number of areas not even tackled yet (e.g. "Corner" articles in the U.S. state of Virginia that were probably once the sites of marker trees for land surveys, that Wikipedia is declaring to be human communities). A discussion of which articles we do not trust to be fundamentally accurate in the context that they give to readers/editors, and whether and what to mass-delete, is on-going on the Administrators' main noticeboard. Uncle G ( talk) 02:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Several thousand articles exist for purported places in Azerbaijan and Armenia that were mass-created in a problematic way from GEOnet. We have had similar problems with Iran articles (see earlier on the same noticeboard) and California articles (see Wikipedia:Reliability of GNIS data and Wikipedia:WikiProject California/GNIS cleanup task force) and have quite a number of areas not even tackled yet. A discussion of which articles we do not trust to be fundamentally accurate in the context that they give to readers/editors, and whether and what to mass-delete; as well as ways to filter out the good articles, and any articles that are simply duplicates because places have been renamed; is on-going on the Administrators' main noticeboard.
We are also, please note, on the cusp of mass-deleting a couple of hundred articles from the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh/ Republic of Artsakh area that were mass-created with a notice that they could not be found otherwise than from the source GEOnet database. If you have any concerns, now is the time to speak up.
Uncle G ( talk) 06:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi All! The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees met last week to decide on a plan for the 2021 Board elections. The Board Governance Committee created this proposal, based on the Call for Feedback about Community Board Seats. Please check the related announcement for details. Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 16:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
I developed a Gadget that generates a link to a structured description of a given Wikimedia category based on the commonly used Wikidata statements to efficiently define its direct members. Please find the description of the Gadget at
d:Wikidata:Structured Categories and its JavaScript source code at
meta:MediaWiki:Gadget-StructuredCategories.js.
I invite you to test it by inserting this code to
Special:MyPage/common.js: mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-StructuredCategories.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
Yours Sincerely,
-- Csisc ( talk) 14:16, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Someone can check the modification in this page;
Peshawar, Afghanistan (
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talk |
history |
protect |
delete |
links |
watch |
logs |
views).
I think most vandalism come from pakistani people who modified it to sample
Peshawar, KP article.
Thanks, -- Anas1712 ( talk) 15:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I count at least five editors who, in the past 24 hours, have created userpages that consist solely of {{
UserboxCOI|<some redlink>}}
(a different redlink in each case). Is there a reason for that sort of thing to happen organically? (Not linking the users because I don't want to bite any newcomers if there is in fact a good explanation. If there isn't, I'll post to an enforcement board.) --
Tamzin (they/she) |
o toki tawa mi. 03:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Draft:
in the parameter. That's perfectly understandable considering they are asked to post the template before starting the draft and seeing it gets Draft:
in the name. See e.g.
Special:Contributions/Bradrave who posted {{UserboxCOI|1=OWLSTAR}}
before creating
Draft:OWLSTAR. We should modify the instructions.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 00:40, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Can you look at the country data template for Bahamas?. Can you correct or add new variants to the template?. The 1869 variant should be Flag of the Bahamas (1869–1904).svg
. And can you add the 1964 variant to the template that is Flag of the Bahamas (1964–1973).svg
.
Yours sincerely, Sondre --
80.212.169.236 (
talk) 10:23, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Can you correct the variants for the Saint Lucia country data template?. The 1875 variant should be Flag of Saint Lucia (1875-1939).svg
and the 1939 variant should be Flag of Saint Lucia (1939-1966).svg
.
Yours sincerely, Sondre --
80.212.169.236 (
talk) 10:25, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Not sure where else to ask about this. Got an email this morning that appears to suggest I have been welcomed to the Vietnamese Wikipedia, which is baffling as a) I am not Vietnamese b) I have never to my knowledge visited the Vietnamese version of WP and c) I do not speak the language. The latter point prevents me from confirming what is happening nor eliminating it, but the message I received takes me to this link: [5] which sure looks like a welcome message of some sort, including my user name, and the notification was emailed to the email address I associate with my WP account. What happened here, and how do I get rid of it? Concerned I may have been compromised although if so this is a weird way to go about that. Are the other projects in the habit of randomly welcoming users from the English WP and creating user pages they haven't asked for? If so it's the first time I've experienced this in my over 10 years on WP. Echoedmyron ( talk) 23:02, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello there,
We are inviting you to participate in Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos 2021, a global contest scheduled to run from July through August 2021.
Participants will choose among Wikipedia pages without photo images, then add a suitable file from among the many thousands of photos in the Wikimedia Commons, especially those uploaded from thematic contests (Wiki Loves Africa, Wiki Loves Earth, Wiki Loves Folklore, etc.) over the years.
In its first year (2020), 36 Wikimedia communities in 27 countries joined the campaign. Events relating to the campaign included training organized by at least 18 Wikimedia communities in 14 countries.
The campaign resulted in the addition of media files (photos, audios and videos) to more than 90,000 Wikipedia articles in 272 languages.
Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos (WPWP) offers an ideal task for recruiting and guiding new editors through the steps of adding content to existing pages. Besides individual participation, the WPWP campaign can be used by user groups and chapters to organize editing workshops and edit-a-thons.
The organizing team is looking for a contact person to coordinate WPWP participation at the Wikimedia user group or chapter level (geographically or thematically) or for a language WP. We’d be glad for you to reply to this message, or sign up directly at WPWP Participating Communities.
Please feel free to contact Organizing Team if you have any query.
Kind regards,
Tulsi
Communication Manager
Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos Campaign
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Tulsi Bhagat [
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talk ] 06:46, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
I frequently use Discord to chat regarding various subjects. I'm aware that there's an IRC chat for Wikipedia, but is there a Discord server as well? Félix An ( talk) 13:20, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Would you like to get more people taking part in the Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees election?
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees announced the plan for the 2021 Board elections. That plan includes outreach and communication support for the Board elections. The Board election facilitators will:
Voter turnout in prior elections was about 10% globally. It was better in communities with volunteer election support. Some of those communities reached over 20% voter turnout. We know we can get more voters to help assess and promote the best candidates, but to do that, we need your help.
We are looking for volunteers to serve as Election Volunteers. Election Volunteers should have a good understanding of their communities. The facilitation team sees Election Volunteers as doing the following:
Who are the Election Volunteers to connect your community with this movement effort? Is it you? Or someone you know? Check out more details about Election Volunteers and add your name next to the community you will support in this table or get in contact with a facilitator. We aim to have at least one Election Volunteer for Wiki Projects in the top 30 for eligible voters. Even better if there are two or more sharing the work.
Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 19:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
There is a case where a user is making cosmetic changes to articles, inserting {{ndash}} in place of -, or changing phrasing in articles without substantially adding or removing content (which is also not correcting outright grammatical errors or not outright making sentences clearer/more concise). I checked the manual of style at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#En_dashes, for example, relating to ndashes and it states that either HTML or ndash forms can be used.
There could be an argument where the likes of {{ndash}} is preferable to -, for example, or one could argue certain phrasing uses fewer words than another. At the same time there's an argument which a series of edits which do not significantly add or remove content, and/or which don't improve the article (as in not actually correcting outright grammatical errors or unclear phrasing) but merely add to an edit count may cause increased blockage on watchlists.
So it is a good general practice to make multiple minor cosmetic changes to articles? WhisperToMe ( talk) 23:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Cosmetic changes to the wikitext are sometimes the most controversial, either in themselves or because they clutter page histories, watchlists, and/or the recent changes feed with edits that are not worth the time spent reviewing them. Such changes should not usually be done on their own, but may be allowed in an edit that also includes a substantive change.Like the others say, don't edit war over it. But anyone making mass cosmetic changes without consensus can be blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
covers the operation of all bots and automated scripts used to provide automation of Wikipedia edits, whether completely automated, higher speed, or simply assisting human editors in their own work. This has been read broadly in the past. You can see the problem; without consensus, one editor could be changing things one way, and another changing them the opposite way, and even if they were not edit warring against each other, they would still be disruptively cluttering page histories and watchlists. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
The user User:Skews Peas is now blocked as a sock, so I think this discussion is over. WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
It's been about 14 months since this script was created, and since its inception it became one of the most imported scripts (currently #54, with 286+ adopters).
Since last year, it's been significantly expanded to cover more bad sources, and is more useful than ever, so I figured it would be a good time to bring up the script up again. This way others who might not know about it can take a look and try it for themselves. I would highly recommend that anyone doing citation work, who writes/expands articles, or does bad-sourcing/BLP cleanup work installs the script.
The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:08, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello, all. The Board of Trustees’ Community Affairs Committee (CAC) is hosting its first office hour on May 13, 2021 at 19:00 UTC.
The CAC is a new Board of Trustees committee established to assess, explore and address current and future community-related efforts. The Committee's Charter lists its full responsibilities, with the first 3 being a priority for this coming year. As part of our commitment to foster better communications with the Wikimedia Movement Community, and based on feedback received from community members requesting more availability from the Board of Trustees, the CAC will be hosting its first Office hours.
All the details are on Meta. Send registration requests and questions to: askcacwikimedia.org. Please help us spread the word by sharing this message with your local / online communities. Hoping to see as many of you as possible! Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 20:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
The Universal Code of Conduct project facilitation team will be hosting round-table discussions for Wikimedians to talk together about how to enforce the Universal Code of Conduct on 15 and 29 May 2021 at 15:00 UTC.
The calls will last between 60 and 90 minutes, and will include a 5-10 minute introduction about the purpose of the call, followed by structured discussions using the key enforcement questions. The ideas shared during the calls will be shared with the committee working to draft an enforcement policy. Please sign up ahead of time to join. In addition to these calls, input can still be provided on the key questions at local discussions or on Meta in any language.
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the Universal Code of Conduct 2021 consultations so far. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 19:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
As I have pointed out elsewhere, the English Wikipedia is hemorrhaging active editors and the ones who remain are unable to hold back the tide of vandalism, misinformation, and bad writing that is overwhelming the Wikipedia project.
I just caught and fixed this vandalism that has been in the lead paragraph of the article on the United States Department of Health and Human Services for 9 years. (The error is obvious to anyone with experience in American health care law; the agency is always referred to as HHS, not the Health Department.) I regularly run into similar vandalism in many other less important articles but do not have the time or energy to fix them all. I am pleased to see that the Wikimedia 2030 project seems to be trying to address Wikipedia's long-term problems but they really need to hurry up. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 04:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
To whom it may concern,
Good faith newbie editor here trying to create a relatively uncomplicated entry on a subject that is red-linked. Unsure as to where and how to get help. Having fulfilled WIKI: BLOP guidelines and provided over 5 reliable, independent and verifiable sources article still rejected on somewhat confusing grounds, someone please help, Morayce ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Morayce ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I really need some help as I don't speak the Arabic language, so what I am asking is for someone who speaks Arabic to correct a problem at the Arabic Wikipedia. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd ( talk) 15:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
At Oliver Cromwell's head...I also asked about this issue at PBS's user talk since they had edited the article but thought maybe getting some more eyes on my dilemma could be helpful.
A source was added to the Oliver Cromwell's head article by PeterSymonds here (in 2009) and adjusted in 2014 here (in 2014). The article or book is referred to in a book published in 2014 - Severed: A History of Heads Lost and Heads Found written by Frances Larson. In the book's Sources section the reference is mentioned in the "Prologue:Oliver Cromwell's Head" subsection as:
I've been trying to fix up the Harvard cite issues at the Oliver Cromwell's head article but I've run into a severe problem with this source...it doesn't seem to exist (or at least I cannot find it). The Archaeological Data Service
website which holds the archives for The Royal Archaeological Institute/The Archaeological Journal (the RAI is the organization which publishes the Journal) has no results for H. Howarth or Henry Howarth or any article under the title of The Embalmed Head of Oliver Cromwell.
So, here is the issue:
Unfortunately the PeterSymonds account seems to have gone dormant so I can't ask him where he got the info but it bothers me that I have been unable to find where it came from. Frances Larson does refer to this Howarth content and to it being published by an "Archaeological Journal" located in London but why can't I find it?!? I need some help here - maybe someone reading this can find the actual source material or maybe the sources have somehow possibly gotten mangled in the telling and re-telling of history and sources?...I dunno! Help! Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 17:35, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
There seem to be an awful lot of sports player articles on Wikipedia, and many of them are quite non-notable. Why is there an article on Tracy Baker for example, when, in contrast, WP:PROF makes it exceedingly difficult for the average professor to have an article? Praemonitus ( talk) 03:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
On Wikipedia, nearly every professional athlete in every professional sport is notable. When nearly everyone is notable, no one is notable - it is a catalog or database. Thus we mock them in conversations like this which are perennial. -- Green C 01:10, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Since the beginning of the pandemic, there have been editors adding lines to e.g. amusement parks or colleges saying e.g. In March 2020, it shut down operations due to the
COVID-19 pandemic.
For a while, the clear path was to revert these additions as obvious inappropriate
recentism. We're not fully through the pandemic yet, but it's gone on long enough that it seems like it may ultimately be seen as more of a mini historical era and warrant brief mention the same way we might have a sentence in a history section describing how an institution navigated WW2. To the extent that it's possible to comment on a generalized issue (which I realize is limited), where do you all stand on this question? It ties in to some broader editorial philosophy questions about how to balance the huge reader demand for more current information with the encyclopedic objective of writing for the long term. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk 21:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry if I'm on the wrong place for this, it's my first time using the community pages and I wasn't sure where to approach for this, but I thought it was better to give it a shoot and give notice of this than to let the interface intimidate me from doing it.
I was looking at Category of Lists of proposals and discovered that the page List of proposed Amendments to the US Constitution is almost a carbon copy of List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution, with what few differences it has being product of copying an earlier version of the page. The latter was created in 2004, while the former was a draft created in 2020 which was approved 5 days ago. Maybe I'm missing something, but I think there's no reason for this duplicate to exist. BirdCities ( talk) 21:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Which method is the most popular for editing? Is it the visual editor or the wikitext editor? -- Hey mid ( contribs) 02:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, please see the bot request Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VRTS Migration Bot regarding the migration of OTRS templates visible in articles and files. Thank you. -- Krd 10:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm not linking this trash to avoid any unnecessary exposure. Quote from the post about Gates: Gates, UNICEF & WHO have already been credibly accused of intentionally sterilizing Kenyan children through the use of a hidden HCG antigen in tetanus vaccines.
(for anyone who is curious, try
Reuters)
The problem is that this site is used as a source in dozens of articles. Shouldn't we just blacklist this garbage? — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 13:37, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
This is a friendly notice about a proposal to have yearly based WikiProjects. You can find the proposal by clicking here. Feel free to drop your opinion about it. Elijahandskip ( talk) 14:11, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
UPDATE: Friends, I'm posting this here again because we're looking for more volunteers to cover more parts of the community. Thanks for hearing this message again.
Would you like to get more people taking part in the Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees election?
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees announced the plan for the 2021 Board elections. That plan includes outreach and communication support for the Board elections. The Board election facilitators will:
Voter turnout in prior elections was about 10% globally. It was better in communities with volunteer election support. Some of those communities reached over 20% voter turnout. We know we can get more voters to help assess and promote the best candidates, but to do that, we need your help.
We are looking for volunteers to serve as Election Volunteers. Election Volunteers should have a good understanding of their communities. The facilitation team sees Election Volunteers as doing the following:
Who are the Election Volunteers to connect your community with this movement effort? Is it you? Or someone you know? Check out more details about Election Volunteers and add your name next to the community you will support in this table or get in contact with a facilitator. We aim to have at least one Election Volunteer for Wiki Projects in the top 30 for eligible voters. Even better if there are two or more sharing the work.
Best, JKoerner (WMF) ( talk) 19:59, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
How do I create a cool signature with out having to keep copying and pasting stuff on pages? On another wiki called Inkipedia, which is a independent wiki outside of fandom, the users are allowed to create their own signature pages with something like: User:CoolGuy27/sig and then type {{User:CoolGuy27/sig}} on talk pages. Thank you in advance.
-- Yaxops ( talk) 16:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you sorry I didn't use teahouse. Yaxops ( talk) 17:11, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
How does this look?: Yaxops Banter 17:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC) and also I know you were not criticizing, I'm over apologetic.
Okay thank you. I reused that signature from another wiki which is has a black back round so I'll change it. Thank you. Yaxops Banter 17:48, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
@ User:Xaosflux hows this one: Yaxops Banter 17:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Is it a phishing site? It's even referenced by some Wikipedia articles: [6]. Sasha1024 ( talk) 14:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I won’t bother anymore doing any good faith editing. Leave the laughable errors where they lie, I say. As a person with specialist knowledge, if I see an obvious error, I correct it. I don’t if the statement is more spin or opinion as I’m not visiting the page to engage in arguments, just to check names, dates and similar facts or to use the long-lat link to view a precise location on Google Maps. However, whatever I change is immediately changed back by someone who knows nothing about the topic, citing “lack of sources”. This includes when I have read the cited sources and simply note they don’t actually say what the previous writer claims. Rather than follow the existing cited link to see if I am correct, a Wiki-nerd would rather restore the error. I hated typing up (yes, on a typewriter) the footnotes and bibliography for my undergraduate essays but this is all you really want to read, isn’t it? You are not interested in the actual essay, only the citations. Apparently, to correct laughable errors in one’s area of expertise, one has to also spend the time first becoming a Wiki nerd, specializing solely in Wikipedia. I spent decades slowly developing specialist knowledge but learning computer programs and similar online procedures as I enter my seventh decade is a waste of my time as software and social media change every few months and I then have to start over. In the end it seems that on Wikipedia, the generalist trumps the specialist, the young edit the old, and your pages are dominated by those who know nothing except how to properly edit Wikipedia. Enjoy your hobby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 11:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
This includes when I have read the cited sources and simply note they don’t actually say what the previous writer claims. Rather than follow the existing cited link to see if I am correct, a Wiki-nerd would rather restore the error.", that's not what actually happened. You identified that the quote wasn't in the linked source, and someone found an archived copy of the source from before the quote was removed and updated the reference to refer to that copy. Anomie ⚔ 11:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes, after I “yelled” at you. Also, the anachronistic use of “Blue Max” pre-WWI continues so I correct it when I see it. Sometimes it’s reversed, sometimes not. Most recently, placing von Clausewitz at the Battle of Göhrde was removed, despite the contents of Wiki page on the Russo-German Legion. In short, enjoy your hobby, which is not publishing encyclopedic knowledge but publishing Wikipedia as an end in itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk • contribs)
This lacks common sense. Do two minutes of research before changing it back, even just within Wikipedia. If someone says Carl von Clausewitz was a commander at the Battle of Göhrde (as Chief of Staff of the Russo-German Legion), assume he was in fact just that. What’s the risk? Why would I lie? It’s not like I’m going in and adding Israel to a list of countries committing ethnic cleansing, ethno-chauvinism, and breaches of international law. That would be controversial even if true, and should be watched for closely. Your approach just preserves the status quo, even if it is laughably wrong. For example, look at the page for “Seven Days to the River Rhine”. Some yahoo has listed several Western European Communist Party leaders as “Commanders & Leaders” of the Warsaw Pact forces. They weren’t. There is no source cited. This is just someone’s political spin. The Red Army did not take George Marchais into its confidence. He had no role in formulating this Plan. But if I change this, you’ll just change it back so why bother. I could go upstairs, pull the book off the shelf, and cite Donald Stoker, “Clausewitz: His Life and Work”, Oxford University Press, chapter 8, pages 185-187, but how do you know that’s not also a lie? What strikes me is the complete lack of subject-matter knowledge of the Wiki person determining that the content must not change. You have built a system destined to deliver uninformed and static content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk • contribs)
Actually, you don’t verify content, only changes. Go look at the example I just gave (“Seven Days to the River Rhine”). This joke will now stand until the end of time under your careful watch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk • contribs)
To prove a negative? Can you prove you are not a CIA agent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 23:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
assume he was in fact just thatif you say so? — El Millo ( talk) 23:45, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I gave you a source above — Donald Stocker’s book — but also asked, how do you know I didn’t make that up? If I’m a lying vandal, why would I draw the line at fake sources? Doing lying vandals have a moral code that stops them from falsifying sources?
Here’s a crazy idea. Before you delete something that common sense says looks at least plausible, open another tab on your browser and Google “von Clausewitz battle of Göhrde“. There you will immediately see (no scrolling, no digging) three pages pages confirming he was in fact a commander at Göhrde.
If so, don’t go to the trouble of editing the page. Just leave it alone because it seems to be right. You do know what Google is, don’t you? The first search page on Google turns up this:
“This Week's Discovery: Eleonore Prochaska, the legendary woman who fought against Napoleon dressed as a man, did serve under Clausewitz. She was wounded and died in the Battle of Göhrde, the same battle Clausewitz, as chief of staff for Wallmoden Corps, planned and led troops. After Göhrde, Clausewitz was promoted to a full colonel.”
OR
“Clausewitz spent the rest of 1813 and the campaign of 1814 serving with the Russo-German Legion, the unit he was originally appointed to raise in 1812. In 1813 this legion was part of Wallmoden's corps, itself part of Bernadotte's Army of the North. Wallmoden had a mixed force, mainly made up of levies or recent volunteers, with a small core of regular troops. It was used on the campaign around Hamburg. During this period Clausewitz commanded at the Action of the Göhrde (16 September 1813), a minor Allied victory in which a French force under General Marc-Nicolas-Louis Pécheux was forced to retreat into Hamburg.”
OR
“As a Russian officer he superin tended the formation of the Landwehr of East Prussia, and in the campaign of 1813 served as chief of staff to Count Wallmoden. He conducted the fight at Göhrde, and after the armistice, with Gneisenau's permission, published an account of the campaign (Der Feldzug von 1813 bis zum Waffenstillstand, Leipzig, 1813).”
The point is, deleting something is a conscious decision to suppress new information, preserving an omission. Over time, you are advancing ignorance, not knowledge. Make a little effort or do nothing at all is what I’m saying. If you don’t know, do nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 00:13, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Okay, it’s there now. Let’s see if it stays. :| — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.2.35.250 ( talk) 15:57, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
We hope this message finds you well and safe. The COVID 19 situation continues to affect many of us across the globe and our thoughts are with everyone affected. We are also aware that there are several processes currently in progress that demand volunteer time and we do not want to add more work to anyone's plate.
We do want to draw your attention to our new Regional Committees for Grants though as they are an opportunity for you to have an active say in the future of our Movement!
📣 So today, we invite you to join our new Regional Committees for Grants! 📣
We encourage Wikimedians and Free Knowledge advocates to be part of the new Regional Committees that the WMF Community Resources team is setting up as part of the grants strategy relaunch [7]. You will be a key strategic thought partner to help understand the complexities of any region, provide knowledge and expertise to applicants, to support successful movement activities, and make funding decisions for grant applications in the region.
👉Find out more on meta [8].
Regional Committees will be established for the following regions:
👉All details about the Committees and how to apply can be found on meta [10]. Applications have to be submitted by June 4, 2021!
If you have any questions or comments, please use the meta discussion page [11].
Please do share this announcement widely with your Network.
Best wishes,
JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 06:22, 21 May 2021 (UTC) on behalf of the Community Resources Team
Just in case someone wanted to know. It tracks category sizes over time. {{ CatTrack}} and toolforge:apersonbot/cat-track for more. Enterprisey ( talk!) 00:24, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:The Core Contest will be running again from June 1, in case anyone wants to flex their writing muscles :) Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 03:49, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
I do not propose a change of policies. I propose that you simplify your signature.
(Background: Earlier today,
User:Jorm explained to me on
Wikipedia talk:Signatures how confusing our signature system is for newbies. Are the people with red/green/orange signatures moderators? Or what does the colour coding mean? Why does the response to a post signed
苦思馬 start with {{
re|Kusma}}
? Confusion about any of these points can cost us potential editors. According to Jorm, it is a widespread problem).
Please do not ask anyone else personally to change their signature, as they might be quite attached to it. Just simplify your signature if you can. Do it for the newbies. Thank you. —
Kusma (
talk) 22:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Can I download a dump that contains only texts, with only the first section of the article, like in here [12]?
If no, will it be problematic to download thousands of articles (one article at a time)?
Thank you! רן כהן ( talk) 07:14, 31 May 2021 (UTC)