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I'm trying to create a query to find non-existent templates which have at least one transclusion. I'd like to filter out userspace .css
/.js
pages from the results as well. I tried with
quarry:query/51274 and
quarry:query/51273, but both run very slowly and/or end up getting killed. Does anyone know how I can improve the efficiency of these queries? Thanks in advance. -
FASTILY 09:10, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
page_content_model = "wikitext"
or page_conent_model not in ("javascript", "css")
may be quicker than page_title not like "%.js"
. Modules have their own content model, "scribunto".--
Snaevar (
talk) 18:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Hopefully an easily answered question, is there a tool or script that can count the number of red links in a particular article? I've searched the archives of this and other project pages, thanks. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 17:10, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
class="new"
. You certainly could create a userscript to count these if you wanted to. —
xaosflux
Talk 17:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
$('.mw-parser-output > *:not(.navbox) .new').length
This will give you the count of all red links in the page content but excluding navboxes. –
SD0001 (
talk) 08:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Is there a substitute for Dispensers dablinks tool? The tool seems to be unavailable even via the links given at {{ dablinks}}. Nthep ( talk) 10:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
While filing a SPI today, I observed that the "User compare report" link [1] that is produced for case pages is a deadlink (presumably due to being a Betacommand tool...). The link should possibly be removed, I think, unless the tool has been moved (in which case it needs to be updated)? - The Bushranger One ping only 01:51, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Is there currently a way, when guest-starring on other-language projects, to have the UI in my native language so that I can actually navigate? I appreciate that it's fun to learn new languages and attempt to navigate by touch and feel in, say, Arabic or Belorussian, but ain't nobody got time for dat, I would typically prefer to edit using an interface in a language that I understand, even if the content is cast in a completely unintelligible tongue. Is there currently a preference for this, or a phab that I can glom onto? Thanks! Elizium23 ( talk) 06:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I received a ping notification related to this edit - but I cannot see my name mentioned? Giant Snowman 22:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
are there any stats available on wiki websites, indicating number (or percentage) of users on mobile vs desktop..also any info on operating systems in use..many thanks Gfigs talk 07:38, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Due to phab:T257066, musical scores through LilyPond have been partially disabled since last summer. However, for the moment it's possible to restore the display of the scores at least by commenting out the "vorbis=1" argument with percent signs. Since it does not look like the matter is close to being resolved, I'd like to propose creating a bot that will do such commenting out on all pages that use the extension, and then un-comment it once the functionality has been restored. I want to sound out the idea here before writing and requesting approval for such a bot, because it would involve making a large number of trivial edits, so I don't know what the community support would be for this. -- Ipatrol ( talk) 21:04, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi. Can the editing toolbar ("This is sometimes called the '2010 wikitext editor'") be customised so it only shows the redirect button? I have no use for the other editing tools, but do use the redirect syntax a lot. Grateful for any help or code I can drop into my custom .css. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
section | group | tool |
---|---|---|
main | format | bold italic |
main | insert | link file reference template-wizard |
main | codemirror | CodeMirror |
$( '#wpTextbox1' ).wikiEditor( 'removeFromToolbar', {
'section': 'characters'
});
Hello, I usually edit pages, and they are auto saved to my watchlist. This stopped happening for some reason? Also, I'm not getting certain on-wiki notifications such as reverts. I checked these settings, and they appear to be set correctly. Also, the email notifications are going through, just not the on-wiki ones. Huggums537 ( talk) 14:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
markasread
part.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 17:02, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
what is to be expected (or done) with a tech problem, that seems to have stalled..?
Gfigs talk 12:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I apologize for posting with such a minute issue, but I didn't receive a response at the help desk and this has been bothering me for a while now! Wondering if anyone knows how to solve a formatting oddity at some of the medieval music templates I've been maintaining, such as {{ Ars nova}}, {{ Ars subtilior}} and {{ Medieval music}}, where the bottom of the template is unable to center consistently, while also including the navigational arrows. The Medieval music one for example pushes the Category, Portal and WikiProject to the left when the "Renaissance music →" is put on the same line, though I'm unsure how to resolve this, even after much experimentation. Any help would be appreciated. Aza24 ( talk) 08:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
{{align|left|{{spaces|10|em}}}}
. If there is already something there but it's shorter then add something like {{spaces|5|em}}
to it.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 11:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)I use to have a feature at the top of my page that showed when a page was created, by whom, and a few stats such as its length. Now, I don't see this info.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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16:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Goal: Transclude all the links returned by wikidata call.
I got some help on the Module: wd help page that got me part way to a solution.
I'm using: {{#invoke:wd|properties|linked|Q151973|P26|format=\{\{:%p\}\} }}
To give me this list of Richard Burton's spouses:
{{: Elizabeth Taylor}} {{: Sybil Christopher}} {{: Suzy Miller}} {{: Elizabeth Taylor}} {{: Sally Burton}}
And I can kinda make it transclude them by doing this:
{{subst:#invoke:wd|properties|Q151973|P26|format=\{\{:%p\}\} }}
But, upon saving, subst will do what it does and replace the wikitext with its substituted translusion links, which is what I'm trying to avoid.
Is there a way to achieve the same result, without using subst? Because if a new spouse were added to Richard Burton, I want my page to automatically capture that and take it into account and transclude the new spouse's page too.
Been trying workarounds like recursive subst through a template but nothing seems to manage this. Any help would be appreciated. El Dubs ( talk) 00:25, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
I am working on a historical biography that's kind of a mess MOS-wise and reference-wise. It contains content copied wholesale from a book (published in 1850 and now public-domain). I have searched for an appropriate somewhat generic public-domain source template to use, similar to the Encyclopedia Brittanica {{EB1911}} & {{EB1922}} Templates but have been unsuccessful. Help please! Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 19:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Page information shows you "Total number of edits", but is this not available via a MediaWiki API? API:Info doesn't seem to cover it. Nardog ( talk) 00:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Regarding fourth and fifth comment, here is the example that proves that tag should not be there: Special:Diff/1001276030/1001368163, Special:Diff/1001368163/next. Kalimoun's contribution line should not have (Tag: Reverted) at the end because that is not related to his/her contribution as other user reverted that edit indeed; other user's contribution can have (Tag: Undo) because it is describing the contribution in question. Solution can be to alter (Tag: Reverted) so that it is (Tag: Reverted by other user) and (Tag: Reverted by contrib user) or something like that, and when accompanied with tag Undo – e.g. (Tags: Undo, Reverted previous or one of previous contribs). Contributions in View history need to be clean. Also, by that line, '(cur | prev)' should be separated from the line some way, as well as (talk | contribs) and total page size and (undo) function. I know this is kind of talkable matter but I see it consistent that way or something similar to that way. -- 5.43.83.177 ( talk) 13:57, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Consider this ordered list:
I'd like to hide the "0." (without breaking the indentation), but the rest of the labels should stay. How can I achieve that? Cheers, intforce ( talk) 00:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I've raised this issue here; perhaps someone can shed a light on this issue. Thanks, intforce ( talk) 12:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I just finished creating my first article and when I came back from a break, I discovered that the page was empty. As if someone close it and erased everything. What happened? Can I recover my text? Please help.
Many thanks, Jessica Wein — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwein101 ( talk • contribs) 04:00, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
When I look at the Parser profiling data on a particular page on en-wiki, I see (among other things), "Expensive parser function count: 15/500". But when I look at mw:Manual:$wgExpensiveParserFunctionLimit I see "99" listed as the maximum. Is "500" some kind of max limited by Mw software, and "99" is the configurable limit it has been set to on en-wiki? Or how exactly should I interpret each of those? Put another way: why doesn't the first one say, "15/99"? Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 19:25, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
{{#ifexpr: {{REMAININGEXPENSIVE}} < 5 | just do the important stuff | do everything}}
? Thanks,
Mathglot (
talk) 20:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Teahouse#Archival databases as sources where SacKate needs help on how to reference information extracted from a database. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 06:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Both have updated this week. On my iPad Chrome shows "inspect diff". Doug Weller talk 15:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
mw.loader.load("https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/commonHistory.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
It's not worked for me this morning - is there a wider problem or is it just me? Giant Snowman 10:05, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Any idea why it is adding a 1970 date to websites published earlier today, such as this? I've manually remedied. Giant Snowman 22:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
On my en.wikipedia watchlist I noticed:
The 'Wikidata for Firefox 🦊' leads there to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Tools/Wikidata_for_Firefox because of it, on WikiData, being a Wikilink ' WikiData:Wikidata for Firefox'. It should lead to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata_for_Firefox but because it is displayed here, the 'Wikidata:' is being interpreted as an interwiki, not as a namespace on WikiData. Is there any way to change this so that the links lead to the right place? -- Dirk Beetstra T C 11:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
[[d:Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox|Wikidata for Firefox]]
then it will work both at Wikidata and other wikis. Here it gives
Wikidata for Firefox. [[wikidata:Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox|Wikidata for Firefox]]
would give
Wikidata for Firefox which works here but not at Wikidata where the first wikidata:
would be interpreted as the namespace.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 11:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata_for_Firefox Wikidata for Firefox 🦊]
(with single brackets), it should always lead to where it's supposed to lead, right? Is it a good idea to do so? How can I reproduce this bug?--
Shisma (
talk) 17:50, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
[[d:Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox|Wikidata for Firefox]]
. To reproduce the problem: Enable "Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist" at
Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist here at enwiki. Watch an enwiki page which had a recent edit with the tool at its Wikidata item, e.g.
MØ. (I don't know whether all Wikidata edits appear in enwiki watchlists but the MØ edit does). View
Special:Watchlist. The edit summary in
[7] had a link to
Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox.
[8]. Viewed in an enwiki watchlist it gives the same wrong result as in my post. The Wikidata target does say: "There is a page at
Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox". That link works at Wikidata. Here at enwiki I had to pipe it with d:
in front to get it to work. But the link only shows at Wikidata if the user has the default language "en - English" at
wikidata:Special:Preferences. That's because it's made by a customized message at
wikidata:MediaWiki:Wikibase-noentity which includes: {{#ifexist:Wikidata:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|*There is a page at [[Wikidata:{{FULLPAGENAME}}]].}}
. The customized message has not been translated to any other languages at Wikidata according to
wikidata:Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki:Wikibase-noentity. Unregistered users also get the English message but that's nearly irrelevant since unregistered users don't have watchlists. The problem can also occur at other wikis, e.g. the German Wikipedia where some users will have set German at Wikidata, or have a global preference for German.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 20:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)It could be because of WP's 20th anniversary. But why is Wikipedia logging me out when I load a page? Sometimes even if I log back in it won't stay logged in. And I do have cookies enabled! Nearly but not perfect ( talk) 05:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Flori4nK
t •
c 12:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Flori4nK
t •
c 21:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)Template:Redirect2/doc is an example of template documentation that contains links to PAGE1, which is an actual article. These should probably appear as redlinks like PAGE2, PAGE3, PAGE4 for the purpose in this usage. I think there are around 40 doc pages that link to PAGE1. Is there any way to fix this short of manually editing them all? MB 15:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I understand how to manage my own Watchlist, linking to pages I have personally edited.
But if I join one of the many Wikipedia Projects, some of which have their own Watchlists (associated with the Project, and not a specific User), how do I get alerted of changes to one of the watched pages?
I could, I suppose, place a ghost edit on each article within the category, but that would be tedious. One project I follow has 1,500 pages on its watchlist. Or is this somehow automatic, if I add my name to the participants list? Sorry I couldn't find this on the help FAQ. Jax MN ( talk) 22:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I went to upload something to wikisource just now and was surprised to discover I wasn't logged in automatically with my wikipedia account. Does unified login not include wikisource? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
There can be problems displaying the equal sign (=) and the minus sign (-).
<math>\frac{dM}{dt} = Q - S = Q - \frac{M}{\tau}</math>
sometimes renders correctly and sometimes does not:
and in some contexts, such as here, always fails to display the minus sign.
{{center|size bar: 30 µm}}
displays as expected, while
{{center|size bar = 30 µm}}
does not display at all. That is, the presence of the equal sign suppresses the display altogether — Epipelagic ( talk) 21:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
{{center|size bar = 30 µm}}
is interpreted as assigning the value 30 µm
to a template parameter called size bar
. You can get around it by writing {{center|1=size bar = 30 µm}}
or {{center|size bar {{=}} 30 µm}}
. See
Help:Template#Usage hints and workarounds.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 23:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, could anyone tell me is there an option/setting to change the (white) background color of WP (if yes, and what options are available)? Thank You!( KIENGIR ( talk) 17:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC))
change Chrome default color scheme
(change "Chrome
" to the name of the browser you use). Or try
this search.
Mathglot (
talk) 09:13, 11 January 2021 (UTC).mw-body {
background-color: #ccc;
}
/* Per [[MediaWiki talk:Monobook.css/Archive 4#Better rendering for .diffchange in diff's...]] */
/* See also: Wikipedia:Catalogue of CSS classes, Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_37#Diff coloring again */
.diffchange {padding: 0px 2px 0px 2px; border: 1px dotted red; margin: 0px 1px 0px 0px}
[Fixed with Infobox OS parameter website special value of hide ] Lent ( talk) 03:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
The "Official Website" for SUPER-UX ( this version) is no longer valid. The displayed information is retrieved from Wikidata via Template:Infobox OS, as the website parameter is blank. The Wikidata information allows other language Wikipedia projects to use, and in this case provide, the website URL and have the information consumed and displayed by each of the Wikipedia projects.
I asked and updated the information as no longer valid, per a project chat over on Wikidata.
See: (On Wikidata) Best way to deal with link rot on "Official Website"
The Wikidata solution of setting the end time (P582) qualifier to the Wikidata statement(data) has been done. The rationale, I gather, is that old Wikidata information can be tagged with the end time (P582) to say the statement(data) was valid, up to and including the end time value. This implies, I gather, that some time after the specified end time value, the statement(data) should be treated as no longer valid.
As the Official Website still is rendered by the Infobox OS, I'm assuming that the official website (P856) value from SUPER-UX (Q2665351) is being used anyway.
What is the best way to resolve this?
Or a mixture of the preceding?
Enquiring minds want to know :) Lent ( talk) 12:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
|website=hide
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 13:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see WT:20th anniversary#A celebratory userbox I need help on how to allow users to select between two different versions of either just the date, or perhaps the entire text, whichever is simplest. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 08:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Is it possible for me to Hide the phrase "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" , written below every article title. Perhaps some change into the commons.css or my skin ? Thank you. -- Walrus Ji ( talk) 10:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
#siteSub {display: none;}
Has the EN.Wikipedia reading font been recently changed? I find it to be too small and hard to read. Fonts on other websites are OK including those on FR.Wikipedia, DE.Wikipedia and NL.Wikipedia. Is there a way to increase the font size just for EN.Wikipedia? Changing the Chrome (Version 87.0.4280.141) font setting makes the EN.Wikipedia font better but makes the font too large for all other sites. I use Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.746). Thanks. TheTrolleyPole ( talk) 15:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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So...I have stumbled upon this article - It's Only a Play. While refs are present with good/correct information, none of them use the Citation Style 1 templates - cite web/news/journal etc. What tool should I be using to fix the refs? I have tried to run my ref tools on the article but either I get a message back that all is well or (literally) nothing happens. I think I need to update my tools - like Reflinks/reFill2/etc on my common etc pages - but am not sure what needs to be fixed. If some of you wonderful tech-wizards could figure out what I am doing wrong and tell me what I need to do to get it right, that would be awesome and a big help. Cheers & thanks - Shearonink ( talk) 17:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Anyone else getting 503 varnish backend errors? I just lost an edit I was trying to save from classic source editor. And VE has slowed to a crawl. Pelagic ( messages ) – (20:04 Sat 23, AEDT) 09:04, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
On iOS mobile device (Safari and Chrome), while playing Webm and ogv embedded in an Wikipedia article, it directs users to download the file rather than a simple playback (which is ridiculous for a >100Mb video). On Android (Chrome), while ogv works perfectly, Webm could only be played from the beginning, ignoring the time tag commands (Note: most users specify a starting time of the video so that it corresponds to relevant content to the article). The above issues does not happen on desktop computers. Is there a fix? -- love.wh 04:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
I was wondering how you can get an automatically updated featured content section by the JL-Bot to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Zimbabwe/Rhodesia_task_force similar to what WP:WikiProject YouTube and WP:X/showcase have please? The C of E God Save the Queen! ( talk) 14:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I found something strange, every page that starts with "MediaWiki:Bad image list/" exists, and its specific text is
The format is as follows: Only list items (lines starting with *) are considered. The first link on a line must be a link to a bad file. Any subsequent links on the same line are considered to be exceptions, i.e. pages where the file may occur inline.
The more strange thing: none of these pages even actually exist: [14]. For example: MediaWiki:Bad image list/Archive 6, MediaWiki:Bad image list/MediaWiki:Bad image list, MediaWiki:Bad image list/hexuhv8o7d4ghfxg3sjiuyvh4s7dihrt876wtghf7.
I have no idea how this happened, but could someone please explain it to me? JJP...MASTER! [talk to] JJP... master? 23:45, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
On Alexei Navalny, is anyone else having an alignment issue with the "Leader of the Russia of the Future Party" in the infobox? For me (Safari 14.0.2, OS 11.1), "Russia of the Future" is rendering slightly below the rest of the text; the problem goes away if you get rid of the link or the footnote at the end. Esszet ( talk) 02:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Template talk:R to project namespace#RfC: Should we categorize redirects to the same namespace? There have been some late comments. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 20:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
For some reason, the ContentSub text style, used for things like short descriptions, has a much taller bottom margin. I'm using the legacy Vector skin and, to me, it looks off, having gotten used to the original spacing. - BRAINULATOR9 ( TALK) 03:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Counting the categories via {{PAGESINNAMESPACE:14}}
does not work here – the
PAGESINNAMESPACE magic word is expensive and so is
disabled on this wiki. Is there a statistics page somewhere that will say (roughly) how many pages exist here in each namespace? —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me 20:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Blocked users currently see this text when they try to edit: MediaWiki:Blockedtext. However, if a blocked user is subject to multiple blocks (for example, they're directly blocked and their IP address is also hardblocked), they instead see this default text: MediaWiki:Blockedtext-composite. This is a wholly useless message, especially in comparison to the carefully designed MediaWiki:Blockedtext. It's worse than it looks on first glance; when I was testing, I found that "$2" is always replaced with something generically useless like "there are multiple blocks affecting your account". Could someone look into replacing it with a modified copy of MediaWiki:Blockedtext, especially by adding links to WP:AAB and WP:GAB? I would do it but unfortunately I don't have the time right now. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 21:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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18:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
The Special:Contributions seems broken when processing IP6 addresses. It cannot accept the format used by [&action=history] links. Special:Contributions requires upper case IP6 while [&action=history] generates lower case IP6. If you enter one into the other it comes up null. Special:Contributions should accept any miniscule/majiscule mix-and-match. (a regexp for recognizing an IPv6 entry and then either upcasing or downcasing the input to further process seems like a solution). This is a problem when manually adding {{ unsigned}}. Also, this is a MediaWiki problem when accessing user pages. Could real user could masquerade as an IP address by using a different case or mixed case name? Where do we leave talk messages to such a user, since they appear to be different usernames with different userspace/usertalkspace pages?
Example:
-- 70.31.205.108 ( talk) 13:57, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
A workaround is probably needed. I started with a suggestion at Template talk:IPvandal#IPv6 needs to be uppercase. Johnuniq ( talk) 00:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I understood that there are categories about Serres regional unit, of Central Macedonia Region at Greece that have problem to the name. Category "People from Skoutari" refers to municipal unit of Skoutari, however there is the village of Skoutari (the capital of municipal unit), too. Or the category People from Nea Zichni. This category refers to Municipal of Nea Zichni but there are also the municipal unit of Nea Zichni and the village of Nea Zichni (capital of the Municipal and the municipal unit.) Maybe someone user can help to the rename of the categories? BILL1 ( talk) 01:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I think that category about the people from Nea Zichni must rename to "People from Nea Zichni (municipal)" (because there is also village and municipal unit with this name. A possible future category about people from Nea Zichni municipal unit can named "People from Nea Zichni (municipal unit) and a possible future category about the people from Nea Zichni village can named "People from Nea Zichni". BILL1 ( talk) 01:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Izno can you help me? BILL1 ( talk) 03:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
When looking at the diff for the only revision of a page (e.g.
Special:Diff/1002959183/prev) on Monobook, the background heading is white which stand out from the off-white Monobook background. The culprit is a CSS constraint table.diff, td.diff-otitle, td.diff-ntitle { background-color: white; }
but I couldn't find it in the site's common.css or monobook.css so is this a recent change on the parser side? —
Wug·
a·po·des 20:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I am aware that this has been discussed before since I had a quick search of the archives. But the problem still persists that the captcha shown when you create an account or add a link to an article is not accessible to blind people such as myself.
Yes, you can request that someone creates an account for you, which is what I did when I joined. But many people may be put off by this.
I feel that Wikipedia should provide an audio challenge or use something like reCAPTCHA v2's I'm not a robot tick box. Many website's use either of these methods, and Wikipedia is one of the few I can think of that doesn't.
What are your thoughts on this, and is anyone currently working on a solution?
Many thanks. KaraLG84 ( talk) 14:21, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello.
Could someone please do something about {{ Category U.S. State elections by decade}}, which doesn't work properly after a category move.
See several subcategories of Category:Elections in Washington, D.C., for instance Category:1970s elections in Washington, D.C..
Thank you.
HandsomeFella ( talk) 07:30, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
I reupload this image page sandbox for tests, because my picture is a jpeg, not png. Can I go ahead, upload my file, and then use that as a file sandbox? 54nd60x ( talk) 04:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Free France#Section edit links missing for a summary of a problem at the Free France article, which currently has no section edit links. I've seen this before elsewhere, and it's usually a template problem. I searched back as far as 2017 (e.g., rev 809824702) which also displays the same problem, and it's extremely unlikely it was not noticed at the article this long and furthermore, the history shows plenty of section links auto-generated by the edit section procedure. Most probably, the article is transcluding a template that was recently changed and not fully tested. It's possible the problem is my own, since I do edit templates, but nothing lately, and I don't see it at first glance. Can anyone have a quick look, to see if you can find the culprit? Thanks. Mathglot ( talk) 23:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
General Leclerc’s second armored division included two units of female volunteers: The Rochambeau Group in the infantry (dozens of women) and the Woman Service of the Naval Fleet in the marines (9 women). Their role consisted of administering first aid to the first line of injured soldiers (often to stop bleeding) before evacuating them by stretcher to ambulances and then driving these ambulances under enemy fire to care centers several kilometers behind the lines.<ref>{{cite web|title=Les Filles de la DB|url=http://www.marinettes-et-rochambelles.com/|website=www.marinettes-et-rochambelles.com|access-date=2018-10-24}}</ref>.<table class="plainlinks metadata ambox ambox-notice" role="presentation"><tr><td class="mbox-image"><div style="width:52px">[[File:Replacement filing cabinet.svg|50x40px|Archive|alt=|link=]]</div></td><td class="mbox-text"><div class="mbox-text-span">This page is an [[Help:Archiving a talk page|archive]]. '''Do not edit the contents of this page'''. Please direct any additional comments to the [[Femmes dans la Résistance intérieure française|current talk page]].</div></td></tr></table>__NOEDITSECTION__ __NONEWSECTIONLINK__I've fixed the issue now. -- Izno ( talk) 23:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Greetings and felicitations. I've enabled the "Display categories" gadget in mobile. I use Safari under the latest version of iOS, and the Vector (default) skin (i.e., I'm using a browser, not the Wiki app). I appreciate the option, but IMHO there is one small problem with the appearance: the categories have nothing separating them from external links if an "External links" section is toggled open, and in that browser the link color is the same whether a link is internal or external, so the link(s) and the category/ies are crowded together and difficult to distinguish at first glance. Would it be possible to add a carriage return/line break or other separator to the end of the last section when it's toggled open? — DocWatson42 ( talk) 01:13, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
When I'm using mobile I'm getting multiple "An attempt to load a user script has failed" error messages (apparently in my case it seems to involve DYKhelper). Other editors I've talked to on Discord have reported a similar issue. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 23:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I assume this is a nonstarterWhy? That's exactly what we're doing with the globals. It just takes someone doing it. -- Izno ( talk) 00:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript
, like many of its cousins, was deprecated in
MediaWiki 1.29. 1.29 was formally released nearly 4 years ago at this point. I am 100% certain we have seen at least one Tech News covering the deprecation.Code that you insert on this page could contain malicious content capable of compromising your account. If you import a script from another page with "importScript" or "iusc", take note that this causes you to dynamically load a remote script, which could be changed by others.If importScript has long been deprecated, should this text be modified? – Jonesey95 ( talk) 03:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I definitely can help in migrating, just currently busy with thousands of usages of deprecated globals (just counting mediawiki namespace). Once I'm done with that, ping me and I help with this one too User:Jon (WMF) Ladsgroup overleg 05:59, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Are we talking about a retrospective change to all user scripts that still use the equivalent of {{ iusc}} / {{ Install user script}} to use {{ Lusc}} / {{ Load user script}} instead? — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 13:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
From WP:IANB:
Empty function body is fine here for making sure the errors don't flood our logs, but obviously doesn't help with getting this fixed on the long term. For most scripts, the fix is for user scripts to stop running the code on mobile. Do we know how this code even got onto mobile? On other wikis, this has been because users edited Special:MyPage/minerva.js but here it seems that people had no idea how they loaded the code in question. Perhaps we need to review the MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition - it's possible some gadgets have been marked to mobile but don't work there which is why so many people saw the error. Jon (WMF) ( talk) 16:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Jon (WMF), it's not gadgets:
- User adds script to their common.js subpage
- User goes to mobile page
- That's all that's needed, yeah? If it never produced a (visible) error or change, no end user would have known until now. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 17:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- (this.) I easily suspect this occurs rampantly - mobile view is still loading wiki:User/common.js and meta:User/global.js correct? Because these get polluted by tons of copypasta all the time by users that don't really know what they are doing - often importing scripts that then import more scripts as well. — xaosflux Talk 17:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
No. Mobile does not load common.js subpage. Instead it loads Special:mypage/minerva.js (or perhaps mobile.js - I can't remember the status quo). Perhaps it's originating in global JS from meta.wiki? That does load on mobile? Jon (WMF) ( talk) 18:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- @ Jon (WMF): I put something in my User:Xaosflux/common.js and it loaded on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page as well as /info/en/?search=Main_Page?useskin=minerva. — xaosflux Talk 18:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps you are thinking about the sitelocal common.js, not the sitelocal user:common.js ? — xaosflux Talk 18:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting. I guess we changed this sometime recently, but I can't remember why and when! Okay, well at least that explains this. User common.js runs on mobile. I guess the correct thing for users to do is to move that to their desktop skin JS, as this code throwing errors it definitely not common to all skins. :) Jon (WMF) ( talk) 19:03, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
One of the affected users, Celestina007, has 3 Javascript pages locally: User:Celestina007/common.js, User:Celestina007/twinkleoptions.js, User:Celestina007/redwarnConfig.js, and a JSON page User:Celestina007/raterPrefs.json. I'd guess the 'config' pages aren't relevant. -- Izno ( talk) 18:56, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript
and friends, it's going to be "just make it work".(extra Javascript load, not exactly the same function at the end of the day anyway re asynchronicity, etc.)please elaborate ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 01:14, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript
, importStylesheet
, addOnloadHook
, and even addPortletLink
that will need doing. I don't see a viable path beyond blanking and botting given the numbers. An RfC or something could determine the dividing line — userspace owner hasn't edited in X years, script not edited in Y years, etc. — but it's either shim forever or blank and bot, no? ~ Amory (
u •
t •
c) 02:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
whenever that happensI mean, on an infinite timescale... One advantage of a shim is, as we've seen, that we can message users through it. Console notices progressing to a weekly/daily message, that sort of thing. Could be handy.By blank and bot, I mean that there are tens of thousands of unused user scripts and skin pages. One could imagine authorizing a bot to clean up every page as long as the owner had been active within a couple years or the script had been edited lately or something, and blanking otherwise. "Blanking" could even be a "if you see this message it was blanked by RfC, see link and do this fix" kind of thing. Just spitballing, but trying to say that given the scale we're talking about the viable options are limited. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 03:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript("User:Example user/script.js");
If I'm looking for an editor's contribs from date x onwards, I go to their contribs, then "search for contributions", then I add two dates: from date x, to date y.
I can never get the "from" date to work. When, after entering the dates, I go to "oldest", I'm taken to the editor's first edit, not the first edit on the "from" date. What am I doing wrong? SarahSV (talk) 21:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20190101010000&dir=prev&contribs=user&target=SlimVirgin
where the "offset=" is YYYYMMDDhhmm format. —
xaosflux
Talk 22:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)My cheatsheet:
Johnuniq ( talk) 01:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Usually, when you click on
a red link like this while logged in, it will takes you to the editor for that article to create (i.e. it links to
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=a_red_link_like_this&action=edit&redlink=1
instead of
/info/en/?search=a_red_link_like_this
). I personally find this rather annoying, so I'd like to ask if there are any way of stopping the editor to launch automatically and have the red links go to Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. message instead.
NotCory ( talk) 07:54, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
$("a.new").each((i,el)=>$(el).attr("href", $(el).attr("href").match(/(\/w\/index.php\?title=.+)&action=edit&redlink=1/)[1]));
. What it does is replaces every red link's
href property with the href without the part that says &action=edit&redlink=1
. Hope this helped! ―
sportzpikachu
my talk
contribs 08:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)References
{{subst:lusc|1=User:Awesome Aasim/noeditredlinks.js}}
@ Sportzpikachu: and @ PrimeHunter: I'm honestly surprised that this function is not available in the settings page. Thanks! NotCory ( talk) 09:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi all
I've been looking at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources and wondering if there would be some way of showing on the Wikipedia article for those sources that they are considered a reliable source by Wikipedia or not. This could be helpful for both new and experienced users who are researching a new topic to identify which reference sources are reliable, especially if they are not aware of this table which a lot of work has gone into, and also possibly readers who wanted to know more about a news or other reference source's reliability.
I'm unsure how technically reading information off the table at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources but I have a few initial ideas on what this could look like.
Please let me know what you think of this idea or possibly how it could be implemented
Thanks very much
John Cummings ( talk) 22:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks very much @ The Earwig: and @ Izno:, these look like very useful tool. What I've tried to describe is different to these (if I understand what they are doing). I would like to be able to go the Wikipedia article for a reference source on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources eg Daily Mail and somewhere on the article or the talk page without installing any plug ins to be able to to see something like to:
Wikipedia does not use NAME OF ARTICLE as a reliable source. There is community consensus from a request for comment to deprecate NAME OF ARTICLE as a source. The source is considered generally unreliable, and use of the source is generally prohibited. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources for more information on reliable sources.
This would only be added to articles or talk pages that exist on the perennial sources page, so would only be around 500 pages or so. My guess is the easiest way this could be achieved in a template on the talk page which somehow can keep up with changes on the main perennial sources page.
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 23:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to know why Category:The Walt Disney Company is a distant subcategory of Category:Finnish people, but what's the fastest way to find it out? I don't want to click the blue ►'s on a category page until I find the connection. 87.95.206.253 ( talk) 18:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
The page Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/Israel hasn't been updated in a week. During that time I created a Wikidata item eligible for inclusion on the page via the automated (Listeria) update, but it understandably doesn't appear in the list. As manual additions are removed by the next update, I chose to engage "Update the list now." The result was a full-screen message: Listeria: Killed by OS for overloading memory. (Also: "Check out the current bot status" - which displayed a table beyond my understanding.). What to do now? (I wrote here because the WikiProject page is in the EN WP.) -- Deborahjay ( talk) 12:25, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
(UTC)
and not (UTC)''
. If you want the user parts to be in italics then you can enter ''-- [[User:Deborahjay|Deborahjay]] ([[User talk:Deborahjay|talk]])''
in the Signature field at
Special:Preferences and enable "Treat the above as wiki markup".
PrimeHunter (
talk) 13:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Maybe this is a non-issue, but I always have to go through and unwatch pages that are archived (old PRs, GAs, FACs etc.) and I certainly have forgotten to do so plenty of times. Is there a reason that we're able to continue watching archived pages? Maybe this is a non-issue, as in it doesn't take anything extra to watch them, but at the same time it seems pointless. Any thoughts? Apologies if this has been discussed before. Aza24 ( talk) 00:18, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Can anybody explain why this edit by GeneralNotability ( talk · contribs) is shown as "Reverted"? Subsequent edits (of which there are two as I write this) do not reinstate the content removed by GeneralNotability. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:56, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi All, I thought I had asked this question before, but, not able to find in the archives, so, I am beginning to wonder if I ever asked this question here at all.
While working at WP:ITN and WP:ITNRD we want to answer a simple question. What fraction of an article's page views come from clicks on the homepage when an article is listed on ITN. So, all I am looking for is referral data for a page saying of x page views, y came in from the homepage. This referral data seems like it would be collected for sure, but, have not seen this in the page views tool. Is there some other place where we can find this information? We want to use this data to get a better understanding of what links the users click on our homepage, and more specifically on the ITN panel. Thanks in advance. Ktin ( talk) 23:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
John_le_Carré Main_Page other 1713
John_le_Carré_bibliography Main_Page other 31
Main_Page John_le_Carré:_The_Biography other 51
Main_Page John_le_Carré_bibliography other 163
Main_Page John_le_Carré other 23500
In
this edit, a page which was originally written with (((...)))
instead of [[...]]
was fixed to use the later. Is there some other platform (i.e. one from which this might have been copied) that uses triple parens for markup? --
RoySmith
(talk) 19:38, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Has anybody noticed any changes to how radio buttons display in page histories next to (cur | prev)? Feels like it used to be more like:
(cur | prev) 🔘 🔘
But now it's more like:
(cur | prev)🔘🔘
with radio buttons touching each other, and also closer to the closing parenthesis.
First saw it on on Win 10 Chrome, but I also see it on Win 10 Edge while logged out, so I don't think it has anything to do with my browser or account settings. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:06, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Ex. here. The relevant user is not only auto-confirmed, but also extended-confirmed, but their changes are somehow not getting auto-accepted. Is this a known issue? RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 02:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Syntax highlighting on this page was disabled because it took too long. The maximum allowed highlighting time is 20ms, and your computer took 27ms. Try closing some tabs and programs and clicking "Show preview" or "Show changes". If that doesn't work, try a different web browser, and if that doesn't work, try a faster computer.
"Try a faster computer."??? We aren't working at some computer fair where we can hop about and sign on to one computer after another. This whole message above has randomly been popping up the last day or so. As I'm typing this, everything went back to normal - and I did not shut one tab or doing anything else it suggests. But this is a pain. Reminds me of the old, old days of Wikipedia when we had to save our stuff every few minutes. My computer did not suddenly become old, or slow. And it only seems to be on this wikipedia. I just did a test on Wikisource, and it looks like it has always looked on my computer. Not happening on Commons, either. — Maile ( talk) 16:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
wish to insert Help:Table example, to make width of wikitable from 200px to 800px. although, seems to have no effect..
× | 1 | 2 | 3 |
---|---|---|---|
1 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
2 | 2 | 4 | 6 |
3 | 3 | 6 | 9 |
4 | 4 | 8 | 12 |
5 | 5 | 10 | 15 |
please advise Gfigs ( talk) 00:10, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
width: 20%
. That requests the cell width to be 20% of the whole table. Browsers don't cut off content to satisfy a width constraint. They make the cell as wide as needed to show the whole content.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 09:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Table |
Gfigs ( talk) 07:45, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Table |
Interwiki links break on nonexistent pages break if they are very long. An example is here. I am using chrome version 88.0.4324.104. - 322UbnBr2 ( Talk | Contributions | Actions) 00:58, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Special:Search/
in {{
No article text/sister projects}} and that pushes it over a 255-byte limit. It works in a local link:{{PAGENAME}}
and not attempt to make interwiki links if it's too long. We could either omit links completely or use external link syntax which does work:
Wiktionary.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 02:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
wiktionary:
plus 255 A's and works:wikt:
plus 256 A's and fails:[[wikt:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA]]
Hello, just checking if anyone else is having similar issues or if it's just my computer playing silly devils. For the past couple of days, if I sign in, look at my watchlist page, then go to another page, when I move to the other page, I get signed out. It also happens sometimes if I switch pages between other, non-watchlist, pages. Not sure what the possible cause could be. Red Fiona ( talk) 16:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
This is NOT a discussion about deleting the main page, rather a technical question I have after reading the page Wikipedia:Don't delete the main page. Is it really true that administrators can't delete the main page? And what does it mean that it might work? It was confusing and hard to understand, but I still want to know what technically happens when you try to delete the main page. 54nd60x ( talk) 11:45, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
You cannot delete or move the main page.
, this is because of a custom hack for the configuration that only applies to enwiki that intercepts that action. —
xaosflux
Talk 12:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
As some of you may be aware, using the bare global variables (e.g. wgPageTitle
or wgNamespaceNumber
) has been
deprecated for some time, where instead mw.config.get('wgPageTitle')
should be used (more info at
mediawiki). A lot of customized user javascript pages still use these deprecated global "wg" variables, but as these will at some point stop working, the
most imported scripts have now either been dealt with or will be in the near future.
Remaining, though, are users' individual skin customization pages (e.g. common.js or vector.js). Alongside some discussion on WP:IANB, I've made a list of every such skin page using legacy variables, and would like to start fixing the pages of active users so these deprecated things can be turned off without causing mass-disruption; every edit would be manual with regex and AWB, a process already effective. That discussion has some links to prior discussion and more info, and although this should be a largely unnoticed process, I thought folks should be aware of it. Global interface editors and staffers have already been making edits, and will continue do so otherwise. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 22:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I've been looking for a fix or work-around for a minor issue regarding quoted text in articles.
Under the usual rules in journalism ( Strunk & White, et. al.), when an author inserts additional info in a quotation for clarification it is placed in brackets rather than parentheses to indicate this is not part of the original quote.
In Wikipedia such additional info is often in the form of a link, especially where non-English sources are being quoted. However, since links are formatted using brackets, there seems to be no way to also use brackets to indicate that this is additional info. Any attempt to do so messes up the formatting. The fallback is to use parentheses, but this is misleading to the reader as it appears to be part of the actual quote.
As an example from my most recent work: "The 84th Guards Division (commanded by Major General Georgii Borisovich Peters) was formed in the Kuybyshevsky district of Moscow as the 4th Moscow Division of the People's Militia ( Narodnoe Opolcheniye)." In this instance the first parentheses are from the the original document. The second is from my insertion of a relevant link, and it should be in brackets, but I can't figure out any way to make it so. Wreck Smurfy ( talk) 02:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi there, im writing om behalf of Hindi Wikipedia, we have been redesigning our main page, ive been doing most of the work on it. However, the 'Main Page' title still appears on our [hi.wikipedia.org main page], we want to remove it. I however have no Idea on how to do it. can someone pleae help me with it, or help direct me to a place where I can get help. Thankyou. 🙏 Innocentbunny TALK 22:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
body.page-Main_Page.action-view h1.firstHeading, body.page-Main_Page.action-submit h1.firstHeading { display: none; }
- this should hide the main page title. See
mw:Manual:FAQ#How do I hide the main page title? ✨
Ed
talk! ✨ 22:57, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
footer-info-lastmod
because the page itself is rarely edited and we don't want readers to think we aren't updated. The English Wikipedia does not allow images in signatures per
Wikipedia:Signatures#Images.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 23:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
So I had come across what I thought could be a helpful tool to have in Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation shortcuts. I put it in my common.js and saved before I realised that the template it links to in Template:Navshortcuts has been deleted. It appears users thought it wasn't a template and then it was a test page. So it maybe a case that this is all so old now and not usable but I'm wondering if there is anything can be done to recreate it? I'd even have the script on one of my own pages if we can have the original template back. I just don't know what the script will be. NZFC (talk) (cont) 02:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
mw.loader.load('/?title=User:Jsimlo/shortcuts.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
–
BrandonXLF (
talk) 04:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript(...)
/mw.loader.load(...)
seems to be because the script adds some extra configuration to your common.js. —
The Earwig
talk 20:25, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Cython#Example. The bottom half of the image on the right isn't clickable, likely due to the syntax-highlighted paragraph on the left. How to fix it? -- fireattack ( talk) 12:09, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Lilac Soul/popups.js is another of these locked user JS pages by users who rarely or never edit any more that's causing problems for the redirect bot to move from Category:Foo to Category:X1. Can someone with the technical access/knowhow please either move it or better still zap the problem completely? Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering ( talk) 12:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Ira Leviton kindly corrected the punctuation in three {{cite book}} entries on a page I created, where a stray comma had been left after the publisher's address. As far as I remember, all three were created by using the cite book template, entering the ISBN, and accepting whatever it returned. Obviously, in future I shall keep an eye on the punctuation that it leaves lying around. I am wondering, though, if this is a problem with the cite book template, or with the Wikidata content on which (I assume) it relies?
Verbarson ( talk) 20:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-maint {display: inline;} /* display Citation Style 1 maintenance messages */
to your personal CSS page, which will display many other "possibly wrong" things (which is why maintenance messages are hidden by default). --
Izno (
talk) 20:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)I have placed the Userbox {{User lives in|England}} in my user page where it forms part of a table. In order to get the table to display correctly, I had to add </td><td> after the template to start a new cell, instead of putting ||. This still happens when I remove the England parameter (and live on Planet Earth). It does not occur for any of the other userboxes I currently use. I assume this is a bug in the template, as it appears no different to other Userboxes in usage or presentation.
Verbarson ( talk) 20:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
||
to separate cells must be on a line starting with |
. Before my edit, the template broke that. You could have started the next cell on a new line with |
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 21:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)I attempted to move 東京 to 東京 (disambiguation). The move should overwrite the redirect at 東京 (disambiguation), which points to 東京 and only has one edit. However an error message popped up preventing me from moving the page. HELP 053pvr ( talk) 22:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Sometimes in Talk or Wikipedia namespace it's useful to be able to link to sources that would never be acceptable in Main space. My current occurrence was naturalnews, but some others were while trying to edit old archives from WP:ITN which included now blacklisted links. Anyway, maybe take a feature to selectively enable that feature by namespace. -- LaserLegs ( talk) 02:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey, could somebody take a look at WT:Wikipedia Signpost#Single-page edition doesn't work ... it looks like it might be due to a template-too-large error. We have implemented a workaround, so it's not a showstopper, but it should get fixed before the next edition. ☆ Bri ( talk) 02:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
I noted here that I am no longer able to set Pending Changes protection for articles. I have full access to the semi-protection fields, and the Move Protection option opens up when I click "unlock further protect options", but the Pending Changes box remains greyed-out and unclickable. I've tried logging out and back in again and the same issue occurs whether I use Firefox (my default browser) or Chrome. I'm using the Monobook Skin. @ Xaosflux:.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
"error": { "code": "stabilize_denied", "info": "Permission denied.", "*": "See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at < https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes." }, "servedby": "mw1363"
Hello everyone, a brief update on this issue. When we noticed this issue, we decided to rollback all wikis to previous MediaWiki version (wmf.27), which fixed this. Right now, we believe the issue is successfully fixed by reverting two problematic patches, and we tested the fix at test2.wikipedia.org, which has FlaggedRevs enabled. Right now, all wikis but Wikipedias (including the English Wikipedia) are at wmf.28, while Wikipedias are still at wmf.27. Wikipedias should be upgraded later today, so we can proceed with the next version (wmf.29) on Tuesday, per the regular process. We're pretty certain the issue is fixed, and won't reappear, but if this becomes a problem again, please ping me, so I can investigate more. Best, -- Martin Urbanec ( talk) 14:17, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I'm on ckbwiki. A while ago, Mediawiki had added a new level of protection called editautoautorollprotected. Now, that level is not in Module:Protected edit request/active. For example, see ckb:وتووێژی داڕێژە:زانیاریدانی ئەنیمانگا/سەر, which is written that the protection level (editautoautorollprotected) is unknown as an error message. I edited the module according to exist codes (See the diff), but it didn't work. Can anyone help us? Thank you! ⇒ Aram Talk 20:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
It's 2021, and our sortable tables still somehow aren't sortable on mobile. Is this sitting as a request somewhere, and if so, how do we give it a boost? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 23:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to second the need to prioritize this. It is frustrating and honestly rude to the reader that this functionality is removed on mobile – both the app and mobile browser. And on mobile Chrome browser "Request Desktop Site" just redirects back to the mobile page, even though I can manually remove the "m." from the url and sortability works. Wikipedia used to have many duplicative articles (actually still does) with related data but sorted differently, but sortable tables made these unnecessary and encouraged merges. The long-term failure to implement this capability removes the ability of mobile readers to get the best understanding in an article that its writers deliberately made possible. Thanks, Reywas92 Talk 04:25, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Not that I want to create the page yet, but I am wondering, why is it impossible to create the page? Unlike trying to edit the page WP:123, which instantly redirects to Wikipedia:123, the skin page doesn’t work when you are logged in. In fact, you can’t even protect the page (I’m not admin) but when I tried to do it https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:54nd60x&action=protect it went to User:54nd60x/timeless.css a few seconds later because I use the timeless skin. So who can directly create the page? It wouldn’t be a problem for non-logged in users (I tried going to the skin.css page while logged out it doesn’t redirect.) Again, I’m not trying to create the page, but I just noticed this unusual pattern while trying to create the page and it surprised me. 54nd60x ( talk) 03:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
I uploaded this animation and tried adding it to 2020 SO:
but the animation does not play despite only being the small thumbnail.
On the file's pages (Commons and WP) it displays: Note: Due to technical limitations, thumbnails of high resolution GIF images such as this one will not be animated.
How to add it in a way to make it play without having to upload a smaller version (there already are smaller rendered other resolutions)?
If that's currently not possible are there phabricator issues for this problem?
-- Prototyperspective ( talk) 23:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I was just browsing Wikipedia on my mobile device and I came across this “skin:”
However, it is not one of the five skins in preferences, and it is also not cologneblue or apioutput.. Doesn’t look like the Nostalgia skin either. So is this even a skin? If yes, what skin is this? If not, why and when does this appear? This “skin” doesn’t appear to me too often but it does occur occasionally. 54nd60x ( talk) 09:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
For example, on WWE Raw the episode number is manually increased by +1 each week. This can be easily missed by editors, and if there's a factual error it means we're worsening the problem by adding a number each week. It would be grand if there was a way for this number to increase by one automatically every Monday. WWE rarely ever misses shows of Raw: they even filmed a live one on Christmas Day in 2019. Automating this seems like a no-brainer. Additionally, it would need to start on 1445 as that's the current number of episodes. — Czello 16:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#expr:1000 + {{age in weeks|January 1, 2016}}}}
→ 1434. If they ever went off schedule, you could adjust the starting point. That said, I'm not convinced this is a great idea. —
The Earwig
talk 16:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)According to IMDB the 28th season had 56 episodes. This suggest not all are 7 days apart, need to verify. -- Green C 17:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
I guess it would be pretty simple: {{#expr:{{Time ago|2021-02-01|magnitude=weeks|numeric=y}} + 1445}}
though I added a new |numeric=
feature to {{
time ago}}
to make it work. It says add the number of weeks since 2021-02-01 to 1445. --
Green
C 18:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#expr:{{Time ago|2021-02-01|magnitude=weeks|numeric=y}} + {{#expr:1445<!--Shows as of 2021-02-01--> - (1<!--Christmas 2020 no show--> + 1<!--Easter no show-->) + (1<!--Special show 06-01-2021--> + 1<!-- Special show 08-01-2021-->)}}}}
so it is self-documenting. --
Green
C 18:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Why are Parser string functions not being expanded in Special:ExpandTemplates? Or in my sandbox, or here either, for that matter:
I'm pretty sure this worked before. I must be doing something incredibly dumb; when you stop snickering, please clue me in; what am I missing? Mathglot ( talk) 21:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Notes
In the future, can I post edit requests to the MediaWiki namespace here instead of on the talk page? I submitted some edit requests and the talk page says "Talk pages in this namespace are generally not watched by many users." I know that the edit requests are tracked, but I still think that announcing it here would bring more people to the discussion. 54nd60x ( talk) 02:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
I went to post a note on the template talk page, and noted others were having the same problem. For me, it works in Chrome and FF on MS, but not in FF on Mint. (Though it does work in Falkon on Mint.) Others have had problems in Chrome, dating back to Sept., but didn't specify their OS. — kwami ( talk) 07:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
I prepared the wikitext of a response to a question at the Reference Desk offline in a text editor and then copied it over to the Wikipedia edit window using copy–
paste. In doing so I must have made the mistake of giving the paste command twice, because the text was duplicated. At least, I assume that was my fault. In previewing I did not notice the duplication, but I saw a mark-up error, which I corrected in the second pasted copy before "publishing". Afterwards, it turned out there had been another modification, in the first of the two pasted copies: the text "the realm of" has been replaced there by "the [[Category:realm]] of
". I swear I did not make this senseless change. Its provenance is a complete mystery to me. Does this ring any bells with anyone? --
Lambiam 12:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
[[Category:]]
in the "Wiki markup" selection of the drop-down menu below the edit area.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all
I've spent quite a lot of time building a resource to help keep people's multiple sandboxes organised to make writing draft articles and publishing them a bit easier
Whilst people can simply copy the page and change the name in the wiki text manually I would really like to make a page on Wikipedia where people can make their own version of this simply by clicking a button, this will make it easier to discover and also use the tool.
To make a version of this page for other users all that needs to happen is for my name to be replaced in the wikicode with the user who wants to use it (I have instructions at the bottom of the page for doing this manually). Because the page uses multiple tools there are two versions of the username that have to be replaced, one which replaces a space with a '+' and another which replaces a space with _, eg John+Cummings and John_Cummings.
Does anyone have an idea of how to create a button that would
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 15:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
{{ROOTPAGENAME}}
to automatically get the username in an unchanged copy.
[32] I also made some other changes. PAGENAMEE
with EE
makes url encoding in magic words.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 11:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
§ion=new
will add a new section with the preload whether the page exists or not:
[33]&preloadtitle=
can specify a section name which will also be in the automatic edit summary. It's blank in my example. I don't think you can make a preload command to overwrite existing content. You cannot preload from another wiki. mfb's link makes /Sandbox with uppercase S. This is not the link on "sandbox" in the default interface.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 14:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Jonesey95:, @ Mathglot:, @ PrimeHunter:, @ Mfb: thanks so much for your work on this, I've got a bit lost with the technical language, could someone recap to now what works and doesn't work? I'm not sure how to test it myself as I already have it on my sandbox and if I blank it and try to load the link above it just loads a blank page. Just FYI it seems that @ Headbomb: has created a template at 'Template:Sandbox organizer' but not sure how this works or if it could be helpful building a button for people to use to make their own sandbox organiser. John Cummings ( talk) 10:10, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks @ Mfb: I created User:John_Cummings/sandbox2 using https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:MyPage/sandbox&preload=User:Template:Sandbox_organiser&action=edit however it doesn't work correctly and just makes broken links in the page, I just tried to import all the changes that @ PrimeHunter: made to my userpage over to the template and it broke the template. Any ideas how to fix it? I feel like we are very close to making it work and then I can write all the documentation. Thanks very much for your help John Cummings ( talk) 15:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
{{ROOTPAGENAME}}
. Users who copy it may find it odd and wonder whether something is wrong if they see somebody else's username 15 times in the wikitext. At
Template:Sandbox organizer the current code in
User:John Cummings/sandbox would make links for
User:Sandbox organizer. I have created that account and can mail you the password if you want to use it as an example user.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 20:52, 28 January 2021 (UTC){{ROOTPAGENAME}}
with {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|10|Example|{{ROOTPAGENAME}}}}
. That is designed to also work at other wikis. If it only has to work at the English Wikipedia then it could use {{
template other}} and say {{template other|Example|{{ROOTPAGENAME}}}}
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:38, 28 January 2021 (UTC)Hi @ PrimeHunter:
Thanks so much for trying to explain things, honestly I'm pretty lost now with the new account and the template stuff, whatever way you think works best. Maybe if I just outline again the functionality and you make the magic happen whichever way you think will be the best option?
I was thinking about asking for the button to be added to the bottom of the sandbox organiser as well but encouraging people to go get the most up to date version on the centralised page is probably a good idea. I assume people will adapt it to specific use cases and perhaps there could be several different ones people could chose from.
Thanks again
John Cummings ( talk) 00:10, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
@ PrimeHunter: @ Mfb: did I do this part right? User:Sandbox organizer/sandbox and then I just need to use a link but this one doesn't work and I don't understand why.... https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:MyPage/sandbox&preload=User:Sandbox_organizer/sandbox&action=edit ? John Cummings ( talk) 19:12, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Template:Excerpt doesn't recognize en-dashes when taking out some paragraphs, only hyphens, and if I put an en dash there it just thinks nothing is there at all. Since MOS:DASH and some some scripts that I use to clean up are a thing, it makes it a bit tricky. Could someone go in there and make it accept en dashes or something? Thanks. Flalf Talk 05:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
{{Excerpt|Foobar|paragraphs=1–2}}
, using an en-dash (1–2) instead of a hyphen (1-2)? If so, that's technically possible but... highly inadvisable, in my opinion. The template argument isn't prose so MOS:DASH needn't apply.
This diff suggests the dashes user script should leave it alone. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 05:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't know if anyone watches the talk page, so reporting here as well. See: Module talk:Excerpt#Bug report: Failure to display templated content in fragment and parameter problem. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 09:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Take a look at the summary of
this diff. Even though I used [[:/æ/ raising]]
with a colon in the summary as I did on the page (
proof), it's linked to
Talk:Near-open front unrounded vowel/æ/ raising, not
/æ/ raising. (1) Has it always been like this? IIRC I feel like the summary parser would correctly point a link like this to the page in the main namespace. (2) Is there a way to link to
/æ/ raising in a summary in a namespace that allows subpages?
Nardog (
talk) 14:14, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
[[::/æ/ raising]]
fails.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 14:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
/
is usually fine, although there are certain combinations of /
with .
that are disallowed.
the wub
"?!" 00:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[[w:en:/æ/ raising]]
isaacl (
talk) 19:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi all
I'm working on a tool to help people organise their sandbox and with a lot of help from PrimeHunter I'm 99.9% of the way there. However I'm stuck with one last thing, I want to create a button which people click on to create the tool in their sandbox, however the link is a little complicated and is confusing the template I'm trying to use. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to embed this link into a button?
Currently I'm trying to use 'blue button' but its getting a bit confused and puts brackets around the link and adds a pipe to the title of the section it creates
[ Click here to create a Sandbox organiser in your sanbox
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 11:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
elink
parameter for external link syntax. The below uses that and the more portable fullurl, plus plainlinks
to omit the external link icon.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Click here to create a Sandbox organiser in your sandbox
My watchlist has become sentient. It thinks it knows what I want and has decided to act upon what it thinks. How can I control this before it is too late? - John Connor wooF 19:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I created the redirect And just like that but there is not currently an article called And Just Like That.... When one is created, my redirect will have to be changed to redirect to the new article. I can't just redirect to the proposed article name because the bot will get to it first.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
#REDIRECT [[some wikitext which produces the page name]]
was possible (this is
phab:T3575 from 2005) then we could use existing features to code things like: "redirect to PAGE1 if PAGE1 is an article, redirect to the same target as PAGE1 if PAGE1 is a redirect, and redirect to PAGE2 if PAGE1 doesn't exist". None of this is possible now.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Whenever I visit CentralAuth for an account, it almost always has local accounts on login.wikimedia.org or meta.wikimedia.org, even if it was just created. But occasionally it lacks them, like here and here.
And sometimes an account has no CentralAuth profile at all (i.e. it returns "There is no global account for '...'") even though it has some local edits here and was created long after the SUL finalization (I'm afraid I couldn't dig up an example of this, but I've seen it).
How do they happen? I'd like to know if it reveals anything about the accounts (e.g. created in some unusual way), which might help us combat cross-wiki abuse. Nardog ( talk) 02:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
$wgCentralAuthAutoCreateWikis = [ 'loginwiki', 'metawiki' ];
says to - but I think that process also fails gracefully if for whatever reason it doesn't pass. These types of users will normally end up getting these SUL users once they log in again. —
xaosflux
Talk 04:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)@ Xaosflux: Also, I noticed some unusual cases that have accounts on centralauth with 0 attached wikis, but are totally impossible to create and I don't know why it ended up on there. For example, this username contains the invalid characters "{" and "}". Also this, and this. None of those accounts are possible to create as those usernames contain unsupported characters, so what is that about? 54nd60x ( talk) 14:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
For more details, please visit T269831. Therefore, please use "repair single page" or its similar function before the task is solved.-- Alcremie ( talk) 01:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
My understanding, backed by multiple Google tests, is that redirects shouldn't appear in search engine hits and that their target is retrieved instead. However, Fish-eye disease shows as first result in Fish eye disease Wikipedia, tho doesn't in DDG. I tried to explain this by features like being connected to a WD item or being an R from merge, but results show this is irrelevant. Any explanation I'm missing? Assem Khidhr ( talk) 01:27, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow">
noindex
in the HTML.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 02:38, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Sandbox Organiser A place to help you organise your work |
Hi all
Wikipedia:Sandbox organiser is a set of tools to help you better organise your draft articles and other pages in your userspace. It also includes areas to keep your to do lists, bookmarks, list of tools. You can customise your sandbox organiser to add new features and sections. Once created you can access it simply by clicking the sandbox link at the top of the page. You can create and then customise your own sandbox organiser just by clicking the button. All ideas for improvements and other versions would be really appreciated.
Huge thanks to PrimeHunter and NavinoEvans for their work on the technical parts, without them it wouldn't have happened.
John Cummings ( talk) 10:44, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the Classical music related changes is showing conversations and edits from the tea house & help desk? Best - Aza24 ( talk) 10:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Fussed by the lack of a preference (any longer) I've edited Help:Preferences here basing myself on WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153#Edit box size Could someone savvy review this please? Since this is no longer a preference option maybe it should be somewhere else. Or maybe it is. Thincat ( talk) 12:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the smart place for this or not, but with regard to Preferences > Gadgets > Strike out usernames that have been blocked is there any way to strike out IPs that are part of rangeblocks? Or maybe dotted strikes for rangeblocks with partial site blocks? Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 01:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I was looking at pages in all namespaces on this wiki with over 200 byte long titles when I found multiple pages which are archive subpages which are over 20 levels deep. One example is Talk:Clan Campbell/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1, which ClueBot created. See quarry:query/4320. User:Cobi is the botmaster. What happened here?-- Snaevar ( talk) 21:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
== ==
in the lead
[35] before {{
User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}}
which should be in the lead. Is it or isn't it in the lead afterwards? ClueBot III couldn't make up its mind. It's only a valid archive request if it's in the lead and ClueBot III apparently thought it was because it archived the page. It should only archive non-lead sections but it archived the "section" including the archive request.
[36] In the next run it saw the archived archive request and thought it was a request to archive the archive so it dutyfully continued doing so recursively until it hit the 255-byte limit on page names.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:24, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I've found some additional messed-up pages; should these be MfD'd?
jp× g 22:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
Talkarchive}}
or similar, then the fake archive can be tagged with {{
db-error}}
(there are not many valid uses for
WP:CSD#G6, but this is one of them). --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 23:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}}
was put in the wrong place - in a section of the talk page, instead of before the first heading of that page. If re-archiving like this is not stopped when detected, it will continue until the software limitations (which I believe are a limit of 255 characters after the "User talk:" part) cause the process to bomb out. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 20:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Can I disable 2FA with scratch codes? ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA talk 12:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
is there any way on Wiki, Chrome (mobile), or Android phone, to view what a mobile article page looks like in various custom screen sizes ? Gfigs ( talk) 08:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Is there a way to disable that obnoxious [reply] button, preferably one that doesn't require logging in? I've been using the preview mode workaround but it's really getting old. 78.28.44.204 ( talk) 12:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
#reply-link-wrapper {display: none;}
in the css should do the job. Without login you would need to do that in your browser, logged in you can use the custom css page.
mfb (
talk) 13:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
.dt-init-replylink-buttons {display: none !important;}
. The class reply-link-wrapper
is used by
User:Enterprisey/reply-link which is loaded in
User:Mfb/monobook.js. It's not targeted with #reply-link-wrapper
but with .reply-link-wrapper {display: none;}
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 14:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to report that an article is heavily vandalized. Please help to restore its initial form. It is: The Three Fools. Thanks in advance for the help!-- MrPanyGoff ( talk) 20:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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OK, in full — Templates (and their module children) are not strictly deterministic as they can output non-deterministic data (such as the time), but the evaluation is isolated and module code cannot write to anything outside of the evaluation of the current template. i.e. A template/module can only output HTML/wikitext and cannot alter any existing wikitext, cannot write to Wikidata, cannot write to any database anywhere and cannot alter any "global" or system variables. This means that a template/module cannot "pass" any information to another template/module other than the children being expanded within their own expansion. That right? — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 19:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
So, while investigating how to trim the banner spam, I noticed on mobile a blank section between two project notices (Lebanon and Organizations)
Switched over to desktop mode and found the page renders correctly with "Military History" being listed between the two.
A look at the wiki markup doesn't show any obvious reason this project wouldn't render on mobile. Though as I cut and paste I notice the importance field is missing.
{{WikiProject Lebanon|class=GA|importance=High}} {{WikiProject Military history|class=GA|Middle-Eastern=y|Post-Cold-War=y}} {{WikiProject Organizations|class=GA|importance=High}}
Slywriter ( talk) 22:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
In User:Redrose64/monobook.css I have the rule
/* monospace font for input boxes */
textarea.oo-ui-inputWidget-input {
font-family: monospace;
font-size: 13.3333px;
}
and this works for most multi-line text input boxes, such as the one that I used to type this in. But it's ignored in the large text input box at Special:EmailUser/Oversight (or any other recipient name), where I'm getting a PS font. How might I get a monospace font there also? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
/* monospace font for input boxes */
textarea.oo-ui-inputWidget-input,
.oo-ui-textInputWidget .oo-ui-inputWidget-input
{
font-family: monospace;
font-size: 13.3333px;
}
/* monospace font for input boxes */
textarea.oo-ui-inputWidget-input,
#mw-input-wpText .oo-ui-inputWidget-input {
font-family: monospace;
font-size: 13.3333px;
}
font-family: inherit;
for .oo-ui-textInputWidget .oo-ui-inputWidget-input
, which will have precedence over your rule. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 23:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)If I go to a page with the CSS content model, highlight two or more lines, copy to clipboard and paste those elsewhere, there are two linefeeds (U+000A) after each line instead of one, the result being a blank line between consecutive "real" lines. This appears to be a recent change: how may I restore the old behaviour? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:51, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Typically I log in direct to my watchlist, then click through to any interesting-looking pages. Recently, when I begin to say edit an article, I sometimes find that I am no longer logged in and my edit is recorded under my IP address. This has begun to happen quite often. Is it a known issue, and if so is it more likely to be a server or browser bug? — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 16:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
I keep getting this type of message popping up, "You are importing User:Lupin/popups.js into common.js" and to remove it as it's unmaintained. I am not sure why I started getting it today, and how to get rid of it. Any help? Govvy ( talk) 12:27, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I just made a post on a user talk page, and somehow this was added to my watchlist for only 28 days. I did not select 28 days, I always leave it at the default permanently. What is occurring? DuncanHill ( talk) 17:55, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm seeing drop-down menus (More, TW, etc) getting stuck open. Any idea what's going on? -- RoySmith (talk) 18:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi, this might have been answered before, but I cant find it.
Whenever I visit an XfD page, I get a popup orange box in the top right hand corner of my screen saying "XFDcloser is now a gadget! Please upgrade to the gadget version." The thing is, I *have* upgraded to the gadget version. The box goes away if I click on it, but it's still slightly annoying. Can I stop it from appearing? (Firefox 85.0, Win10) Black Kite (talk) 21:51, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
importScript('User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js');
. By the way, if you follow the link "
upgrade to the gadget version", it should tell you to do this. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 22:15, 9 February 2021 (UTC)It was seen here that I will edit something with addition with multiple columns in one row. There were 50 states plus DC, and its 5 territories of the U.S., but how does it work to equal the number in the totals? (Note that it also takes >8 seconds to load this template page and also errors/problems while loading the table's visual editor, since it was repeated and doesn't work).
Also, how to subtract three columns, to equal something in one row (for example,in the same page table, it was total confirmed cases - deaths - recoveries = active cases)? Evan0512 ( talk) 03:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
I was inspecting the output produced by a module (not relevant here, but see "UNIQ--nowiki" at permalink if wanted). That output included strip markers from nowiki tags resulting from the module expanding color templates for political parties. For example:
<nowiki>#DDDDDD</nowiki>
<nowiki />#D50000
Why is the nowiki used? If someone puts {{Independent politician/meta/color}} on a page in normal wikitext, the nowiki stops #
from being interpreted as a numbered list item. However it looks like these templates are being used in wikitext or HTML to generate a table. The resulting HTML gives a table cell like the following:
<td style="background-color:{{align|left|{{spaces|10|em}}}}"></td>
which is transformed to
<td style="background-color:#DDDDDD"></td>
Are those nowiki really desirable? Johnuniq ( talk) 04:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Hey all, looking at this request from Yashthepunisher, they appear to have moved an article into Talk space, and yet the talk page has gone missing. Anyone have any ideas for where it could have gone and how to restore the pages to their original locations where they can be safely moved? Much appreciated. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 04:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Wikimedia is applying as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2021 and Outreachy Round 22. We're currently gathering project ideas for the application.
If you have ideas for projects, share them here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270429
-- The Wikimedia GSoC & Outreachy Organization Administrators
-- qedk ( t 愛 c) 15:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi. Why is this function so intermittent? I added it via the gadgets page in my preferences, and it works from time to time. But quite a lot of the time, clicking the button just sends it off spinning and doesn't do anything. Clicking cancel gives the "Error: Citations request failed". I'm using the latest version of Firefox. Anyone else having the same issues? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
When creating an article, is there any way to suppress or collapse or otherwise hide the box that says, "Before creating an article, please read Wikipedia:Your first article. We recommend that new editors ..." etc.? If there isn't, could a way to suppress that box be added to Preferences? Abductive ( reasoning) 16:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
.mw-newarticletext {display: none}
In IBM System/370#Architecture details I have a table with several long sections. There is a heading row showing bit positions, and I want cells in subsequent rows to align with those headings, so I don't want to put those sections in nested tables. I would like to make each of Control Registers and General Registers separately collapsible. Is there a way to do that? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul ( talk) 22:55, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
I cannot see the useful "reverted" tag in some contributions that were reverted. Examples of mw-reverted are in recent changes but what about these:
Am I missing something or is this hopefully a temporary glitch? Johnuniq ( talk) 03:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC))
The mw-reverted change tag is applied shortly after the revert is made...-- RoySmith (talk) 03:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I have come across both versions of messages attempting to upload files on other wikis. The first one says “Permission error” and then says “The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Administrators.” See wikt:Special:Upload. The first one isn’t quite hard to understand. However, the second title says “Uploads disabled.” Then it says “Local file uploads are disabled. Please upload to Wikimedia Commons.” See d:Special:Upload. I have a question about the second message: Does the second message mean that not even administrators can upload images on that wiki? If so, then who can upload? I always thought that administrators could do “everything” on the wiki; by everything I don’t mean literally everything, but something like uploading images should be available to sysops or at least someone on every wiki. 54nd60x ( talk) 04:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
$wgEnableUploads
is set to false
in MediaWiki. Wikidata doesn't need any locally hosted files, so it's disabled there. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 05:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Is there any way to turn off the endless stream of Wikidata notices? It's rendered my "inbox" useless. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 12:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
How I can see new articles from Category:Bilateral relations by country and its subcategorieres? Eurohunter ( talk) 16:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Why default user sandbox isn't capitalised as any other namespace? So we should have User:Example/Sandbox instead User:Example/sandbox. Eurohunter ( talk) 18:01, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Just noticed that Category:Astronomy templates is not hidden at Solar radio emission and is displayed alongside encyclopedic categories (more fresh eyes than mine are needed). Btw, could we run a bot that will detect all unhidden maintenance categories and hide them? Brandmeister talk 20:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
when it should have been inside, ideally placed in the documentation page (see
WP:CAT#T).
Category:Astronomy templates is not a maintenance category, and there should be no reason to hide it - otherwise it wouldn't be shown at
Template:The Sun, where its display is highly appropriate. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 14:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)I had an interesting thing happen to me this evening. My main machine was down, so I dug out an old laptop and tried to use that. Trying to log in to wikipedia, I got, "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form. You may receive this message if you are blocking cookies".
To make a long story short, if you ever get that, take a look at what version browser you're running. If it's something ancient, try updating your browser :-)— Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time it's enemy action.Ian Fleming, Goldfinger. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I know this is incredibly minor but it's bugging me. Take a look at Arithmetic mean, in the example as part of the definition. The first, fourth and 7th plus (+) signs not properly formed. my initial thought was that it was an artifact of my monitor or some temporary rendition problem, I believe it persists, and I can reproduce it in other browsers.
I created:
Note that the problem does not exist an example 2 but does an example 1 and example 3.
I think that suggests that it has something to do with the header, But I can't think why that would be.-- S Philbrick (Talk) 16:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I've been using the Wikipedia mobile app to edit on my Android phone. Ever since enabling 2FA, the app logs me out every few days, which is incredibly frustrating as I have to go into authenticatior every time to log back in. Is this a known issue / something I am doing wrong? Elliot321 ( talk | contribs) 03:29, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm trying to get this wikitable format to look more like this div style one. In making a new project page for Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music I was advised to not use divs since they leave a huge white space when the window is decreased and are not optimal on many devices. I figured the best way would to put this in a table format but I'm having trouble finding a way to have it not looked so crammed; is there a way to put space between columns and rows? Best - Aza24 ( talk) 23:04, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
<hr>
. The lower dividers, between rows 2 & 3, use <hr>
. The border version has a small break between cells, but maybe that doesn't disturb you much.role="presentation"
to my sample code, as it's purely for layout. The div sample might be improved by relaxing some of the constraints on it. As it is now, it can't resize either larger or smaller to adapt to various display sizes. —
JohnFromPinckney (
talk) 01:56, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Every browser has the ability to increase and decrease scale. That is a first step to emulate large and small screens, before even going to different software and hardware (e.g. various screen height/width ratios) set-ups. When performing such first step checks you should see that your proposed layout (especially the second) is extremely problematic. For clarity, such checks, when working with <div> tags, are html student 1.0 steps. Note that the MediaWiki software allows to use <div> tags directly, but usually that shouldn't be done: <div> tags are, in wiki environment, commonly operated via templates and other features, without most editors actually ever seeing them. That is because they are tricky, and the template implementations of them at least avoid to make the most common mistakes. So, if you can't find a template to implement a layout feature, it should normally better not be implemented with html code directly, while those that are a bit more experienced in html specifically tried to avoid them (by not including them in a template or some such).So I've interpreted this as I should be using a Wiki Template, not pure HTML and a Wikitable seemed the only possibility...? Aza24 ( talk) 02:15, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Every browser ... set-ups.This is more or less reasonable. The word that we are looking for there is responsive, that is, a page design is responsive when it can change to fit the screen on which it is viewed. (Tangent: In reality the best way to test different resolutions is actually to test different resolutions by increasing or decreasing the width of the browser viewport. Zooming, which I assume is what is meant by increase/decrease scale, is usually secondary to that assessment.)
but usually that shouldn't be doneIs more or less reasonable when dealing with article space because article space can be changed often, and where simplicity/wikitext is preferred anyway so that it is easy to use there (see WP:MOS#Use simple markup; especially, these reasons are not really the reasons proffered). It becomes unreasonable in a non-reader facing area, which usually do not change and where you might prefer to be fairly creative. Go hogwild!
Label 1 | Data 1 |
---|---|
Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text | |
am doing this comparison from Chrome (mobile). please toggle the width entries, in above code, to see if you can change sizes of parts of the Infobox, in both desktop and mobile views. the only width entry seems to be functioning for me (in desktop view) is "bodystyle" and "titlestyle". I cannot change headerstyle, labelstyle, or datastyle widths in desktop. and none of width entries seem to have any effect in mobile view. please check for errors in above code. is this expected behaviour ? or should it be reported, if so, where (or to whom) ? Gfigs ( talk) 08:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Label 1 | Data 1 |
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Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text | |
Label 1 | Data 1 |
---|---|
Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text | |
Label 1 | Data 1 |
---|---|
Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text |
Hi. I have noticed that template links in the form of (eg) {{t|R from colloquial name}} are now displaying a massive redirect banner across the site. Eg:
Looking closer, I think this was probably caused by a recent move of the main template page from Template:TL to Template:Template link.
Not entirely sure how to or whether I have the permissions to fix this personally, so I'm posting here. BlackholeWA ( talk) 22:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
I have recently tried to install MediaWiki skins for use on Wikipedia, however the instructions are super unclear and I end up getting random characters when I try to open the file. Is it because the extensions don't work for Wikimedia? Are those extensions for use on Wikimedia, or can they be used on other sites using MediaWiki? I would like help with installing a skin, thanks. 54nd60x ( talk) 15:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
See my recent comments at Template talk:Native name. Nobody has responded there yet. I haven't been able to get even a vague impression of where these language codes are actually listed. The change itself is relatively minor, but I don't actually know who to even ask about it. Beeblebrox ( talk) 21:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
This search returns about 265 results, most of which appear to be section headers. Yet, when you click on the individual results, the headers look normal. Why are stripmarkers showing up in the search results? And what is a postMath stripmarker?
I discovered this at
Special:Permalink/1006770866. When I remove the {{#invoke:}}
that gives the Lua script error, I get this:
Special:Permalink/1006769917 which is the expected result.
Why is that? Does a Lua script error prevent MediaWiki from 'completing' its job on an errored page?
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 18:41, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
===<math>F_\beta</math>===
and the search result includes "F-score (section ?'"`UNIQ--postMath-00000003-QINU`"'?)". Another example is
Encoder (digital) with heading === <math>2^n</math>-to-n encoders ===
and search result "Encoder (digital) (section ?'"`UNIQ--postMath-00000001-QINU`"'?-to-n encoders)". Perhaps the search index is constructed at some middle step during saving a page and the math rendering is incomplete?? How you got that message is another mystery—I don't see any math.
Johnuniq (
talk) 22:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Hi, for some reason, several templates are now showing the http code for |os_grid_reference=
, and it's causing the infoboxes to take up almost the entire page width. I don't know which sub-template is causing this to happen. See:
Template:Infobox UK place/doc/London, or
Template:Gbmapping. Appreciate any help! Thanks,
Funandtrvl (
talk) 00:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Would it be possible to create a template that takes in a date and returns it formatted either mdy, dmy, or YYYY-MM-DD based on whether {{ use mdy dates}}, {{ use dmy dates}}, or neither is present? This relates to this thread, and has some other potential applications as well. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 23:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
I cannot get the table syntax to work per the documentation.
{| |+ [caption text] |- ! scope="col" | [column header 1] !! scope="col" | [column header 2] !! scope="col" | [column header 3] |- ! scope="row" | [row header 1] || [normal cell 1,2] || [normal cell 1,3] |}
produces:
[column header 1] | [column header 2] | [column header 3] |
---|---|---|
[row header 1] | [normal cell 1,2] | [normal cell 1,3] |
But instead of the row header being emboldened, the whole row is.
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
{| |+ [caption text] |- ! scope="col" | [column header 1] ! scope="col" | [column header 2] ! scope="col" | [column header 3] |- ! scope="row" | [row header 1] | [normal cell 1,2] || [normal cell 1,3] |}
[column header 1] | [column header 2] | [column header 3] |
---|---|---|
[row header 1] | [normal cell 1,2] | [normal cell 1,3] |
!
) or data (pipe, |
). All of the cells in that source line are then marked up the same way as the first. If the source line begins with a header cell, double exclamation marks and double pipes may then be used indiscriminately in that line without affecting the cell type - all will be header cells; but if the source line begins with a data cell, only double pipes may be used for subsequent cells - exclamation marks (single or double) are treated as plain text. Hence, to have different cell types in the same table row, you need to use at least one line for each type. This has been the case for several years. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 13:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)When I am on my user contributions page and hover over the "hist" link for an article, the times that appear in the window that pops up are one hour earlier than the (correct) times that appear when I click on the the link and display the article's history page. Anyone else see/report this issue? Firefox is my browser FWIW. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 15:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
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There is a recent pattern of strange {{
cite web}}
markup involving the word "fetch" or bollixed parameters. I'd like it to stop. Here are some examples.
Article | Bad markup link | Editor | Bad markup |
---|---|---|---|
Oxford Street, Sydney | edit of 15:13, 29 December 2020 | BugMenn | {{Cite web|last=LaughlinNovember 23|first=Shaya|last2=comments)</span>`; }); });|first2=2017-5:35PMWentworth Courier/* global newscorpau */ fetch then then innerHTML = `${data} comments`; document querySelector innerHTML += ` <span>}|date=2017-11-23|title=No tram for Bondi Rd corridor|url=https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/wentworth-courier/council-votes-to-reject-any-proposals-for-light-rail-long-bondi-rd/news-story/8570d0a66fe1a31e41ec532d1c612768|access-date=2020-12-29|website=dailytelegraph|language=en}}
|
Sarah Henderson | edit of 17:58, 1 February 2021 | MarnetteD | {{Cite web|url=https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/corangamite-mp-sarah-henderson-quiet-on-gay-marriage-debate-in-canberra/news-story/e278a94f7ed86cdf12ebca6abc4f3438|title=Floor walking and plebiscite talking|first1=Alex Sinnottless than 2 min|last1=readAugust 2|first2=2017-2:15PMGeelong Advertiser/* global newscorpau */ fetch then then innerHTML = `${data} comments`; document querySelector innerHTML += ` <span>}|last2=comments)</span>`; }); });|date=2 August 2017|website=adelaidenow}}
|
Mark Robinson (Australian politician) | edit of 02:37, 9 February 2021 | MarnetteD | {{Cite web|url=https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/churchs-almighty-religious-lobby-lords-it-over-state-lnp/news-story/583a8c8ca25aeac44d35d54be090c26b|title=Church lords it over State LNP|first1=2 min|last1=readNovember 7|first2=2010-12:00AMThe Sunday Mail/* global newscorpau */ fetch then then innerHTML = `${data} comments`; document querySelector innerHTML += ` <span>}|last2=comments)</span>`; }); });|date=6 November 2010|website=couriermail}}
|
Flower Hill, New York | edit of 21:58, 18 October 2020 | LINYperson615 | {{Cite web|last=August 6|first=Updated|last2=Pm|first2=2020 3:06|title=See photos of Tropical Storm Isaias' effect on Long Island|url=https://www.newsday.com/long-island/tropical-storm-isaias-li-1.47737460|access-date=2020-10-18|website=Newsday|language=en}}
|
These are just 3 examples I've found and corrected recently. I'd like to get to the bottom of this. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 22:42, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
I added a 4th example that may be part of a different pattern. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 23:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
|website=The New York Times
". Is there such a database, and if so, is there a page for recommending additions to it? Some useful additions would be along the lines of "Facebook entries should use |via=Facebook
" and "YouTube entries should use {{Cite AV media ... |via=YouTube}}
. I say "along the lines of" because there are exceptions to both. —
Anomalocaris (
talk) 00:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
In checking the history of an article which is currently being discussed both at WP:ANI and at AFD, I saw that the page was created in draft space, and was then moved by another editor to article space, and the move is listed in the page history as a minor edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sarah_A._Matthews&diff=prev&oldid=1006628272&diffmode=source
This seems to be sufficiently inconsistent with the concept of a minor edit that it ought not to be allowed. I was about to write that I did not know whether it was labeled as minor by intentional action, by unintentional action, or by lack of action. Then I checked my own contribution history, and I see that when I move a page, either to disambiguate it or to accept a draft, it is labeled as a minor edit. So it appears to be a lack of action. In any case, labeling a page move as a minor edit is wrong and is the Wrong Thing to do. Page moves are often contentious. Can this be changed? Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
If an user has an option checked to mark all changes as minor in their settings then page moves get marked as minor.-- Snaevar ( talk) 02:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
(minoredit)
that we give to all registered users (not IP's) and by community discussion we could remove the ability for it to be used from "all users" and restrict it to only admins/bots or other collections of users (e.g. rollbackers maybe). Feel free to work up a proposal if you want to pursue that. —
xaosflux
Talk 20:16, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
enwiki specific configuration, which is why I've pointed interested editors to the discussion at the ticket. If it was an enwiki specific configuration we could come up with a community consensus to update our specific option - but there is no such option to alter this by project today. — xaosflux Talk 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Is there any way to have edit description buttons? Eurohunter ( talk) 13:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi! I hope this isn't too dumb a question: where do we set our temporary watching preferences? I've looked in the Watchlist tab of my user preferences, and looked at Help:Watchlist, but I'm no wiser. The system seems to be choosing for me that certain pages should be watched for a while only, and I'd like it to stop. I do not want to have to visit each of those pages to reset the watchlist expiry. Advice, anyone? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:53, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
how should you interpret this ? Help:Download_as_PDF#Issues
1.PDFs are rendered in a single full-width column; this cannot be changed.
since PDF Page Sizes A0-A3, for articles with Infoboxes, seem to have at least two columns ? Gfigs ( talk) 09:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
this is for printing a PDF article on A0 size paper, that is 84cm x 119cm.. Gfigs ( talk) 03:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I don’t understand what this is about. “Some things do some thing” is a terrible problem description. Please give exact links to pages, steps u are taking, result expected and result given (where possible with a screenshot) if u want ppl to help u along. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 19:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I've been editing Tizard Bank which has a citation to the Sailing Directions for the South China Sea. This used the enroute template with parameters 161|2017|13. The citation displayed correctly, but when following the link to the pdf I got a 404 not found error. This also happens with other parameter combinations and with the example given in the template article. I've used another form of citation as a temporary fix, but it would be convenient to have this working. Kognos ( talk) 22:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
Cite enroute|161|2017|13}}
, and it returned
[1], rather than
https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/SDEnroute, which is the link you want?References
{{u| Sdkb}} talk 23:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
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I just updated the pre-release date on Sumatra PDF. Before I edited the page, the stable release date was listed as "3.2 / 15 March 2020; 10 months ago". After I edited the pre-release date, it turned into "3.2 / 15 March 2020; 11 months ago". Since the 15th was yesterday, why wasn't it "11 months ago" already? 93.136.144.94 ( talk) 14:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
Birth date and age}}
(614,000 mainspace transclusions), e.g. {{
birth date and age|1963|2|17}}
in
Michael Jordan where it currently produces <span style="display:none"> (<span class="bday">1963-02-17</span>) </span>February 17, 1963<span class="noprint ForceAgeToShow"> (age 57)</span>
. That is standardized and specific enough to allow JavaScript manipulation without random unwanted changes. Somebody (not me) could make a userscript for this and some other templates like {{
Start date and age}} (86,000 mainspace transclusions). I don't think it should be default.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 20:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Hello, I have a question regarding one of the seven skins installed on Wikipedia. Obviously, the six of the seven are Vector, MinervaNeue, Modern, MonoBook, Timeless, and Cologne Blue. The last skin is a bit confusing to me. I can arguably say that the last is not a skin because it does not appear on Special:Version on any wiki, and mw:Special:Search/Skin:ApiOutput returns zero results. However, I can also say that it is a skin in that its appearance does not appear to duplicate any existing skin. ApiOutput appears to be a skin for not just Wikimedia, but for other wiki farms like Fandom. For example: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=apioutput Is this because this skin is a special case, or is this not even a skin at all? 54nd60x ( talk) 12:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I noticed Cebu was in Category:Pages with bad rounding precision, and when viewing it, much of the article was filled with red warning messages that said something like "time to run script exceeded". This article pulls a lot of information from WD. This was what I saw when viewing the last saved version of the article ( this one). That version of the article, and subsequent ones, now appear normal to me, so there is nothing to show. But there were dozens of timeout messages displayed. I'm guessing this has something to do with server response time and this article is reaching some limit and times-out. MB 02:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Lua time usage: 8.909/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 41585746/52428800 bytes ... Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 12844.075 1 -total 65.46% 8408.099 55 Template:PH_town_table 62.71% 8054.449 53 Template:PH_town_table/mid 45.12% 5795.319 337 Template:PH_wikidata 25.83% 3317.306 270 Template:Rnd 19.81% 2544.300 159 Template:Wd
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As I noted in the last issue, I received a grant from the WMF to develop the global watchlist script into an extension. That extension has now been deployed on Meta. Visit m:Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings to get started.
I do not plan on any further developments being made to the user script. I have released version 9.1.0 to both the dev and stable versions, which includes a notification about the extension being available when you use the user script. You can dismiss the notification, and the script still works, but it will no longer be maintained.
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This will likely be the last update sent to this list.
Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 19:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I'm hoping someone might be able to provide me with an answer about user account renames. In my work as an admin, and even as an editor, I've looked at user logs and frequently I find log entries about user renames missing. I'd say, 50% of the time, there is no information about a rename even when I know the previous name of the account I'm looking at or the editor is open about the fact that they've been renamed. I look in the logs under Global rename log (where I have never found any relevant information) and User rename log (which sometimes has information) but frequently, there is no information present at all about this change. This can be useful information as an admin, especially if you have dealt with an account before under a previous name. When you are looking at an editor's behavior, it's useful to know if you have already interacted with them before under a different username.
Aren't all renames logged or somehow noted on the user's account? Is there some step global renamers need to take so that the change is in the editor's user logs? Why would it be missing and could it start always being noted in the user logs? Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 21:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
I want to do a SQL query for users whose first edit was a long time (say, more than a year) after their account was registered. Any suggestions on query strategy which isn't absurdly inefficient? -- RoySmith (talk) 16:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
This might not be a technical question but I was wondering how to update this list. The last time it was updated was nearly two years ago by an IP editor, not a bot.
Any idea where to find a list of nonexistent articles with the most links to their blank pages? Liz Read! Talk! 20:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
It was pointed out to me earlier that on mobile Discord, surrounding links with less than/greater than symbols (which disables the link preview) causes the greater-than symbol to be appended to the end of the link (so for example, instead of a link to
/info/en/?search=Main_Page, you'd get a link to
/info/en/?search=Main_Page%3E). This can be detected relatively simply, and a "Did you mean" suggestion displayed, via
MediaWiki:Title-invalid-characters (which displays the body of the "Bad title" message), since the second parameter ($2
) is the title the reader attempted to access (in the same style as is already done on
MediaWiki:Noarticletext, for example if the accessed title is missing a closing parenthesis). As an example, see
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Title-invalid-characters?action=edit and
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Dark_Magician%3E. I thought about
just adding this, but decided that would probably be too bold, and that it would be a better idea to ask here first (which would also allow others more clever than me to suggest potential better ways to go about this). 「
ディノ奴
千?!」
☎ Dinoguy1000 03:14, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Example_(musician)
in plain text and wants to make a link then it's a choice whether to guess the ending )
is part of the url or part of the surrounding text. Smart software could look for a matching (
to make the guess but wrong guesses are not bugs and no software will always guess correctly. If
Discord (software) has a feature to write <...>
around a url like </info/en/?search=Main_Page>
and the same software then treats >
as part of the url then it certainly sounds like a bug which may be fixed. Is this the actual situation, or does the problem arise if somebody copies </info/en/?search=Main_Page>
to somewhere else without removing >
?
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)<url>
is a typical way of writing URLs in plain-text emails and someone could copy the trailing bracket by mistake), and there are no downsides that I can think of at all? —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 18:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
#explode
so it must be coded differently. But how far should we go in trying to guess errors? Some users mix up external and wikilink syntax and write stuff like [/info/en/?search=Main_Page|Main Page]
which gives
Page. Should the message check if you get an existing page by both dropping a pipe and everything after it?
PrimeHunter (
talk) 21:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#ifexists:$3|{{Did you mean box|1=$3}}}}
. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 23:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)Hi all, I wonder if someone could kindly explain why I can't see a Check mark? Instead, I get a box with four tiny letters inside. I imagine it's something to do with installed character sets. I am using FF 47 on XP SP3 (yes, I know it's ancient and insecure). While I'm here, what might I need to do in order to see Japanese, Chinese, Arabic characters etc.? I have an XP SP3 install CD. Cheers, > MinorProphet ( talk) 21:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
the 15th of January 2001 is widely recognized as the Wikipedia birthdate. What about the French Wikipedia's birthdate ?
On the 11th of May 2001, posted on the Wikipedia mailing list, a
message advertised the creation of french.wikipedia.com. But in the introduction of the article
French Wikipedia, 23 March 2001 is mentioned as the starting date of the french edition of Wikipedia (until the
20th of July 2006, the introduction displayed August 2001 as the birthdate. On the
28th of January 2019, the 23 March 2001 date appeared with a
citation (24th of September 2010) from
ZDNet France). The article's
french version does mention the same date, but with a "citation needed" warning.
The
oldest version of the french home page is available on Internet Archive (IA) and dates back to the 19 of may 2001. Unfortunately, the archive only shows the 4th revision. On fr.wikipedia.org, the
oldest revision of the home page dates back to the 11th of October 2002.
I've wondered whether frWiki could have been mistaken for the french version of
Nupedia.
According to IA, a Nupedia French Language Translation Project was open since at least the 9 April 2001. A
thread of messages (IA archive) from Francais-L mailing list, hosted on www.nupedia.com, shows however that the french Nupedia was not online before the 1st of April 2001 (see
messages' content on IA).
On Wikipedia-l mailing list, the 16th of March 2001,
Jimmy Wales wrote:
"I want to set up some alternative language wikipedias. French and German would be good [...] I intend to setup the following domain names and wikis: french.wikipedia.com, francais.wikipedia.com (both pointing to the same thing)".
On the 16th of April 2001, on the Francais-L mailing list,
Larry Sanger posted the
following message (IA archive):
"Another thing to consider is to encourage Jimmy Wales [...] to create a French Wikipedia, under the title http://fr.wikipedia.com. I've already asked him to do this for all the foreign languages we're translating into on Nupedia, but I think Jimmy is busy these days--so if you encourage him, he'll create it soon, I am guessing. (If you were to tell him that you have an article, in French, that you want to add, that would probably persuade him.)"
This confirms that fr.wikipedia.com was not available before April 2001.
On fr.wikipedia.org, the first revision of the known oldest article, Paul Héroult, dates back to the 4th of August 2001. On IA, a 19th of May 2001 version is available. Some revisions are apparently missing on fr.wikipedia.org...
The fr.wikipedia.com to fr.wikipedia.org change took place on the 2nd of November 2002.
Questions: what is the accurate French Wikipedia's birthdate ? Does a reliable source exist about it ? Could relevant Wikipedia revisions be retrieved ?
Note: this message may not be considered a technical issue, so, please, feel free to move it into a Village pump section you think is more appropriate.
-- ContributorQ ( talk) 18:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
{{NUMBEROF|fr|birthdate}}
, which could be added to a new column in
List of Wikipedias and many other places ({{
NUMBEROF}}
has been exported to 70+ wiki langs). The date table should be open to change and discussion, I suspect Commons Tabular is better than Wikidata for this purpose, possibly a page on meta.wikimedia.org. Wherever easily machine readable and commonly available. --
Green
C 19:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)@ ContributorQ: Double-pinging you because I think I've struck gold here! This directory of database dumps contains a file called wiki-fr.tar.gz. Inside that gz archive under the "/wiki-fr/lib-http/db/wiki" directory, the first line says "990174692³3HomePage³3*³30³3217.14.192.xxx³30³3id³2111". 990174692 is a Unix timestamp and is equivalent to 18 May 2001, 08:31:32 (UTC/GMT). The line also indicates that the edit was made by the IP address 217.14.192.xxx (the last octet of IP addresses was always obscured by UseModWiki). The corresponding entry in the difflog file does indeed sound like it could be the French Wikipedia's very first homepage edit. I will place the original text at fr:Utilisateur:Graham87/HomePage, for want of a better location, because (a) it relates to the French Wikipedia and (b) I don't know how to format it within this message. Frwiki editors can do whatever they like with my subpage.
@ Graham87: Excellent! Thank you very much for your time and the job done. It helps a lot. With the informations you provided, I could retrace a more precise sequence of events.
In the
March 2001 Wikipedia-l archive there is no message announcing that a french version of Wikipedia has been created. On the 16th of March 2001,
Jimmy Wales posted his wish to create one, a Catalan wikipedia and a German Wikipedia. A few minutes later, he also announced the
online availability of deutsche.wikipedia.com. A
message by
JimboWales, on Wikipedia ("Multilingual coordination" meta page), confirms that:
"I have set up Catalan and Deutsch (or Deutsche, that's still up in the air!), and I anxiously expect there to be some problems or complaints as people start to use them[...]
I think that we should have French and Spanish next, but I don't know how to write 'French' and 'Spanish' correctly. If someone will tell me, I will set them up."
On the 19th of March 2001, JimboWales announced the
creation of nihongo.wikipedia.com ("Multilingual coordination" meta page). The day after, a
confirmation of the online availabality of catalan.wikipedia.com, deutsche.wikipedia.com and nihongo.wikipedia.com has been published.
On the 11th of May 2001, on Wikipedia-l, Jason Richey
announced the creation of the french.wikipedia.com subdomain and eight other new wikis or subdomains (xx.wikipedia.com, xx = chinese, esperanto, hebrew, italian, japanese, portuguese, spanish or russian).
On the 13th of May 2001,
someone asked for a french version ("Multilingual coordination" meta page).
On the 16th of April 2001, on the Francais-L mailing list, hosted on www.nupedia.com,
Larry Sanger posted the
following message (IA archive):
"Another thing to consider is to encourage Jimmy Wales [...] to create a French Wikipedia, under the title http://fr.wikipedia.com. I've already asked him to do this for all the foreign languages we're translating into on Nupedia, but I think Jimmy is busy these days--so if you encourage him, he'll create it soon, I am guessing. (If you were to tell him that you have an article, in French, that you want to add, that would probably persuade him.)"
On the 18th of May 2001, in a
reply to a
request made on the 15th of May 2001 by Jimmy Wales, Jason Richey implicitly announced, on Wikipedia-l, the creation of the alias fr.wikipedia.com which was
confirmed by Larry Sanger, the same day ("Multilingual coordination" meta page). Three days later, on the "Multilingual coordination" meta page,
JasonR announced the
creation of sv.wikipedia.com.
The table below shows data extracted from the frWiki dump (wiki-fr.tar.gz). The timestamps and other data are infos retrieved from revisions logged in the "recent changes" file (rclog) and "diff log" file (diff_log).
Revision # | Timestamp | Date | Page | Content |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 990174692 | 2001-05-18 8:31:32 | Home page | This is the home of the new French Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate en francais, and start writing! |
4 | 990259515 | 2001-05-19 8:05:15 | Home page (see record on IA) | This is the home of the new French Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate en francais, and start writing! Please see our instructions (sorry, in English) on how to edit a page. (Perhaps these could be translated... Paul (Louis-Toussaint) Héroult |
1 | 990259529 | 2001-05-19 8:05:29 | Paul Heroult (see history page on IA) | [...] |
5 | 991380665 | 2001-06-01 7:31:05 | Home page | Cette page est la racine de Wikipedia en Français, que vous êtes invités à faire grandir ... Please see our instructions (sorry, in English) on how to edit a page. (Perhaps these could be translated... Voir our instructions (sorry, in English) pour le mode d'emploi : comment éditer une page. A suivre ... BernardVatant |
1 | 991380815 | 2001-06-01 7:33:35 | BernardVatant (see on frWiki) | Page contact pour Bernard Vatant Très intéressé par ce projet collaboratif. J'espère pouvoir y consacrer un peu de temps. Mes passions : l'Astronomie et le partage des connaissances. Pour en savoir plus : http://www.universimmedia.com Me contacter : bernard@[...] |
All collected infos are consistent with the May 2001 birthdate (11th, or 18th); none does tally with the 23 March 2001.
The tables below show data extracted from some pther wikis dumps. The timestamps and other data are infos retrieved from the first revision logged in the "recent changes" file (rclog) and "diff log" file (diff_log).
Timestamp | Date | Home page's content (www.wikipedia.com) |
---|---|---|
979586833 | 2001-01-15 19:27:13 | This is the new WikiPedia! |
Wiki | Timestamp | Date | Home page's content |
---|---|---|---|
de | 984703365 | 2001-03-16 00:42:45 | This is the new German language wikipedia. I obviously need to translate all of the error messages, page text, etc Advice solicited! Just write here on the homepage for a couple of days, and then we'll get started next week. I do not speak German. Larry Sanger speaks some. So only English speaking people (who also speak German) are likely to be able to effectively communicate with me. |
ca | 984776841 | 2001-03-16 21:07:21 (see history page on IA) | This is for the Catalan language wiki project. |
ja | 985041045 | 2001-03-19 22:30:45 | irrashaimase! kore wa nihongo no wikipedia desu. kakite kudasai. |
eo | 990174584 | 2001-05-18 8:29:44 | This is the home of the new Esperanto Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate in Esperanto, and get to work! |
fr | 990174692 | 2001-05-18 8:31:32 | This is the home of the new French Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate en francais, and start writing! |
it | 990174783 | 2001-05-18 8:33:03 | This is the home of the new Italian Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate in Italian, and start writing! |
pt | 990175390 | 2001-05-18 8:43:10 | This is the home of the new Portuguese Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate in Portugues, and start writing! Please see our instructions (sorry, in English) on how to edit a page. (Perhaps these could be translated...) |
sv | 990611216 | 2001-05-23 9:46:56 | Välkomna till Svenska Wikipedia! Denna sidan är startsidan (HomePage) för den svenska wikipedian. Målet med Wikipedia är att skapa ett uppslagsverk med uppslagsord av alla möjliga typer där allt innehåll är fritt att använda enligt GNU Free Documentation License.[...] |
nl | 992991055 | 2001-06-19 22:50:55 | Welkom bij de nieuwe (19/06/2001) Nederlandstalige Wikipedia. Wikipedia is een gemeenschapsproject met het doel vanaf nul een complete encyclopdie te creëren. De Engelstalige versie is in januari 2001 opgestart en bevat al meer dan 9000 pagina's. We zouden graag voor de Nederlandstalige pagina's een vergelijkbaar succes zien[...] |
pl | 1001517728 | 2001-09-26 15:22:08 | = Polskia Edycjia Wikipedii = 26 Wrzesnia 2001 postanowilismy wystartowac polska edycje Wikipedii Zapraszamy wszystkich do tworzenia nowych artykulów i tlumaczen tekstow z wikipedii. |
@ GreenC: FYI.
PS: It would be nice to import in each current xxWiki database the very first revision of the homepage and the first article.
-- ContributorQ ( talk) 17:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
On https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:CiteThisPage&page=Julius_Lekakeny_Sunkuli&id=856705571, we have
MLA Style Manual
Shouldn't the second one be Wikimedia Foundation
Also on /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Citing_Wikipedia, we have
There's a contradiction here. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 17:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Is there any way to mark articles I'm watching from templates or categories? Eurohunter ( talk) 18:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
References
{{subst:lusc|1=User:קיפודנחש/watchlistMark.js}}
Sometimes I come across a notable topic that we don't have an article for, and I want to quickly create a stub and seed it with some references, but it's a topic that I don't have experience creating articles about, so I don't know how these articles are "supposed" to look or what they're "supposed" to have.
I'm dreaming of a tool that will let me quickly create a stub by having templates for various topics, where I can choose the topic, fill out some basic information (like infobox parameters and a paragraph of prose) and references, and it will create the page with the correct infobox, navboxes, categories, create the talk page with the right WikiProject tags, etc. Basically, select the article topic (e.g. athlete, scientist, album, book, car, town, school, etc.), fill out a form, click, and it makes a stub with all the right parts. Editors could create new templates for new topics, or custom/personalized/alternate templates, kind of like custom warnings in Twinkle.
Does anything like this exist? Levivich harass/ hound 08:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Levivich Are you looking for something like Template:Biography? Slywriter ( talk) 17:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Would somebody be able to pull me a dump from sometime in the week of February 7 or 14, and throw me a list of the contents of Category:Canadian films as of that date in my sandbox at User:Bearcat/Temp? The category currently has 4,627 articles in it, but I know for a fact (I check it on a regular basis, what with that being my primary editing domain these days) that there were 4,655 just a couple of days ago — and since this is after I added three new films today, that means 31 films have disappeared from the category within the past day or two. One or two, I could handwave away as either an article getting deleted or a technical counting error, but not 31, so I need to figure out what's been disappearing and why. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 01:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
How do I force two consecutive {{ rquote}} templates to break onto new lines? Such as the two quotes here. ➧ datumizer ☎ 10:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
A few editors including myself have been notified of multiple unsuccessful attempts to login using the user's account and a wrong password. It appears that there is someone whom I will call a whacker, a poor imitation of a hacker, trying to log in using various user accounts. I have checked my Contribution History, and all of the edits are edits that I made. I have no reason to think that any of the login attempts succeeded. I have no intention of changing my password, because it isn't compromised, and is working as it should. So I have a two-part question. First, does anyone have a guess as to what the whacker is doing or trying to do? It probably doesn't matter.
Second, I have a technical question. When does the system lock out an IP address? Is there a rule so that after 3 or 5 unsuccessful attempts to log in from an IP address, the device is locked for a reasonable length of time, such as an hour? It isn't so much a matter of protecting the system, since strong passwords appear to be a sufficient protection. It is more a matter of maybe discouraging the whacker.
Third, and this is just a wild guess. I wonder whether the whacker is hoping that one of the humans behind the accounts will panic and will change their password to something easily guessed. Don't do that, then. Robert McClenon ( talk) 19:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
See discussion Template talk:WikiProject banner shell#Add class/importance attribute on shell and please advise where else is right forum to discuss. I know it's potentially a major change. Shushugah ( talk) 20:15, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm randomly logged out since few deys (monday?). What is the problem this time? Why this problem keeps coming back from time to time? Like atleast 1-2 periods a year. Eurohunter ( talk) 18:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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I'm trying to create a query to find non-existent templates which have at least one transclusion. I'd like to filter out userspace .css
/.js
pages from the results as well. I tried with
quarry:query/51274 and
quarry:query/51273, but both run very slowly and/or end up getting killed. Does anyone know how I can improve the efficiency of these queries? Thanks in advance. -
FASTILY 09:10, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
page_content_model = "wikitext"
or page_conent_model not in ("javascript", "css")
may be quicker than page_title not like "%.js"
. Modules have their own content model, "scribunto".--
Snaevar (
talk) 18:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Hopefully an easily answered question, is there a tool or script that can count the number of red links in a particular article? I've searched the archives of this and other project pages, thanks. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 17:10, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
class="new"
. You certainly could create a userscript to count these if you wanted to. —
xaosflux
Talk 17:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
$('.mw-parser-output > *:not(.navbox) .new').length
This will give you the count of all red links in the page content but excluding navboxes. –
SD0001 (
talk) 08:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Is there a substitute for Dispensers dablinks tool? The tool seems to be unavailable even via the links given at {{ dablinks}}. Nthep ( talk) 10:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
While filing a SPI today, I observed that the "User compare report" link [1] that is produced for case pages is a deadlink (presumably due to being a Betacommand tool...). The link should possibly be removed, I think, unless the tool has been moved (in which case it needs to be updated)? - The Bushranger One ping only 01:51, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Is there currently a way, when guest-starring on other-language projects, to have the UI in my native language so that I can actually navigate? I appreciate that it's fun to learn new languages and attempt to navigate by touch and feel in, say, Arabic or Belorussian, but ain't nobody got time for dat, I would typically prefer to edit using an interface in a language that I understand, even if the content is cast in a completely unintelligible tongue. Is there currently a preference for this, or a phab that I can glom onto? Thanks! Elizium23 ( talk) 06:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I received a ping notification related to this edit - but I cannot see my name mentioned? Giant Snowman 22:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
are there any stats available on wiki websites, indicating number (or percentage) of users on mobile vs desktop..also any info on operating systems in use..many thanks Gfigs talk 07:38, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Due to phab:T257066, musical scores through LilyPond have been partially disabled since last summer. However, for the moment it's possible to restore the display of the scores at least by commenting out the "vorbis=1" argument with percent signs. Since it does not look like the matter is close to being resolved, I'd like to propose creating a bot that will do such commenting out on all pages that use the extension, and then un-comment it once the functionality has been restored. I want to sound out the idea here before writing and requesting approval for such a bot, because it would involve making a large number of trivial edits, so I don't know what the community support would be for this. -- Ipatrol ( talk) 21:04, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi. Can the editing toolbar ("This is sometimes called the '2010 wikitext editor'") be customised so it only shows the redirect button? I have no use for the other editing tools, but do use the redirect syntax a lot. Grateful for any help or code I can drop into my custom .css. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
section | group | tool |
---|---|---|
main | format | bold italic |
main | insert | link file reference template-wizard |
main | codemirror | CodeMirror |
$( '#wpTextbox1' ).wikiEditor( 'removeFromToolbar', {
'section': 'characters'
});
Hello, I usually edit pages, and they are auto saved to my watchlist. This stopped happening for some reason? Also, I'm not getting certain on-wiki notifications such as reverts. I checked these settings, and they appear to be set correctly. Also, the email notifications are going through, just not the on-wiki ones. Huggums537 ( talk) 14:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
markasread
part.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 17:02, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
what is to be expected (or done) with a tech problem, that seems to have stalled..?
Gfigs talk 12:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I apologize for posting with such a minute issue, but I didn't receive a response at the help desk and this has been bothering me for a while now! Wondering if anyone knows how to solve a formatting oddity at some of the medieval music templates I've been maintaining, such as {{ Ars nova}}, {{ Ars subtilior}} and {{ Medieval music}}, where the bottom of the template is unable to center consistently, while also including the navigational arrows. The Medieval music one for example pushes the Category, Portal and WikiProject to the left when the "Renaissance music →" is put on the same line, though I'm unsure how to resolve this, even after much experimentation. Any help would be appreciated. Aza24 ( talk) 08:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
{{align|left|{{spaces|10|em}}}}
. If there is already something there but it's shorter then add something like {{spaces|5|em}}
to it.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 11:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)I use to have a feature at the top of my page that showed when a page was created, by whom, and a few stats such as its length. Now, I don't see this info.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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Goal: Transclude all the links returned by wikidata call.
I got some help on the Module: wd help page that got me part way to a solution.
I'm using: {{#invoke:wd|properties|linked|Q151973|P26|format=\{\{:%p\}\} }}
To give me this list of Richard Burton's spouses:
{{: Elizabeth Taylor}} {{: Sybil Christopher}} {{: Suzy Miller}} {{: Elizabeth Taylor}} {{: Sally Burton}}
And I can kinda make it transclude them by doing this:
{{subst:#invoke:wd|properties|Q151973|P26|format=\{\{:%p\}\} }}
But, upon saving, subst will do what it does and replace the wikitext with its substituted translusion links, which is what I'm trying to avoid.
Is there a way to achieve the same result, without using subst? Because if a new spouse were added to Richard Burton, I want my page to automatically capture that and take it into account and transclude the new spouse's page too.
Been trying workarounds like recursive subst through a template but nothing seems to manage this. Any help would be appreciated. El Dubs ( talk) 00:25, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
I am working on a historical biography that's kind of a mess MOS-wise and reference-wise. It contains content copied wholesale from a book (published in 1850 and now public-domain). I have searched for an appropriate somewhat generic public-domain source template to use, similar to the Encyclopedia Brittanica {{EB1911}} & {{EB1922}} Templates but have been unsuccessful. Help please! Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 19:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Page information shows you "Total number of edits", but is this not available via a MediaWiki API? API:Info doesn't seem to cover it. Nardog ( talk) 00:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Regarding fourth and fifth comment, here is the example that proves that tag should not be there: Special:Diff/1001276030/1001368163, Special:Diff/1001368163/next. Kalimoun's contribution line should not have (Tag: Reverted) at the end because that is not related to his/her contribution as other user reverted that edit indeed; other user's contribution can have (Tag: Undo) because it is describing the contribution in question. Solution can be to alter (Tag: Reverted) so that it is (Tag: Reverted by other user) and (Tag: Reverted by contrib user) or something like that, and when accompanied with tag Undo – e.g. (Tags: Undo, Reverted previous or one of previous contribs). Contributions in View history need to be clean. Also, by that line, '(cur | prev)' should be separated from the line some way, as well as (talk | contribs) and total page size and (undo) function. I know this is kind of talkable matter but I see it consistent that way or something similar to that way. -- 5.43.83.177 ( talk) 13:57, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Consider this ordered list:
I'd like to hide the "0." (without breaking the indentation), but the rest of the labels should stay. How can I achieve that? Cheers, intforce ( talk) 00:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I've raised this issue here; perhaps someone can shed a light on this issue. Thanks, intforce ( talk) 12:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I just finished creating my first article and when I came back from a break, I discovered that the page was empty. As if someone close it and erased everything. What happened? Can I recover my text? Please help.
Many thanks, Jessica Wein — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwein101 ( talk • contribs) 04:00, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
When I look at the Parser profiling data on a particular page on en-wiki, I see (among other things), "Expensive parser function count: 15/500". But when I look at mw:Manual:$wgExpensiveParserFunctionLimit I see "99" listed as the maximum. Is "500" some kind of max limited by Mw software, and "99" is the configurable limit it has been set to on en-wiki? Or how exactly should I interpret each of those? Put another way: why doesn't the first one say, "15/99"? Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 19:25, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
{{#ifexpr: {{REMAININGEXPENSIVE}} < 5 | just do the important stuff | do everything}}
? Thanks,
Mathglot (
talk) 20:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Teahouse#Archival databases as sources where SacKate needs help on how to reference information extracted from a database. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 06:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Both have updated this week. On my iPad Chrome shows "inspect diff". Doug Weller talk 15:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
mw.loader.load("https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/commonHistory.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
It's not worked for me this morning - is there a wider problem or is it just me? Giant Snowman 10:05, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Any idea why it is adding a 1970 date to websites published earlier today, such as this? I've manually remedied. Giant Snowman 22:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
On my en.wikipedia watchlist I noticed:
The 'Wikidata for Firefox 🦊' leads there to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Tools/Wikidata_for_Firefox because of it, on WikiData, being a Wikilink ' WikiData:Wikidata for Firefox'. It should lead to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata_for_Firefox but because it is displayed here, the 'Wikidata:' is being interpreted as an interwiki, not as a namespace on WikiData. Is there any way to change this so that the links lead to the right place? -- Dirk Beetstra T C 11:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
[[d:Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox|Wikidata for Firefox]]
then it will work both at Wikidata and other wikis. Here it gives
Wikidata for Firefox. [[wikidata:Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox|Wikidata for Firefox]]
would give
Wikidata for Firefox which works here but not at Wikidata where the first wikidata:
would be interpreted as the namespace.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 11:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata_for_Firefox Wikidata for Firefox 🦊]
(with single brackets), it should always lead to where it's supposed to lead, right? Is it a good idea to do so? How can I reproduce this bug?--
Shisma (
talk) 17:50, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
[[d:Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox|Wikidata for Firefox]]
. To reproduce the problem: Enable "Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist" at
Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist here at enwiki. Watch an enwiki page which had a recent edit with the tool at its Wikidata item, e.g.
MØ. (I don't know whether all Wikidata edits appear in enwiki watchlists but the MØ edit does). View
Special:Watchlist. The edit summary in
[7] had a link to
Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox.
[8]. Viewed in an enwiki watchlist it gives the same wrong result as in my post. The Wikidata target does say: "There is a page at
Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Firefox". That link works at Wikidata. Here at enwiki I had to pipe it with d:
in front to get it to work. But the link only shows at Wikidata if the user has the default language "en - English" at
wikidata:Special:Preferences. That's because it's made by a customized message at
wikidata:MediaWiki:Wikibase-noentity which includes: {{#ifexist:Wikidata:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|*There is a page at [[Wikidata:{{FULLPAGENAME}}]].}}
. The customized message has not been translated to any other languages at Wikidata according to
wikidata:Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki:Wikibase-noentity. Unregistered users also get the English message but that's nearly irrelevant since unregistered users don't have watchlists. The problem can also occur at other wikis, e.g. the German Wikipedia where some users will have set German at Wikidata, or have a global preference for German.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 20:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)It could be because of WP's 20th anniversary. But why is Wikipedia logging me out when I load a page? Sometimes even if I log back in it won't stay logged in. And I do have cookies enabled! Nearly but not perfect ( talk) 05:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Flori4nK
t •
c 12:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Flori4nK
t •
c 21:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)Template:Redirect2/doc is an example of template documentation that contains links to PAGE1, which is an actual article. These should probably appear as redlinks like PAGE2, PAGE3, PAGE4 for the purpose in this usage. I think there are around 40 doc pages that link to PAGE1. Is there any way to fix this short of manually editing them all? MB 15:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I understand how to manage my own Watchlist, linking to pages I have personally edited.
But if I join one of the many Wikipedia Projects, some of which have their own Watchlists (associated with the Project, and not a specific User), how do I get alerted of changes to one of the watched pages?
I could, I suppose, place a ghost edit on each article within the category, but that would be tedious. One project I follow has 1,500 pages on its watchlist. Or is this somehow automatic, if I add my name to the participants list? Sorry I couldn't find this on the help FAQ. Jax MN ( talk) 22:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I went to upload something to wikisource just now and was surprised to discover I wasn't logged in automatically with my wikipedia account. Does unified login not include wikisource? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
There can be problems displaying the equal sign (=) and the minus sign (-).
<math>\frac{dM}{dt} = Q - S = Q - \frac{M}{\tau}</math>
sometimes renders correctly and sometimes does not:
and in some contexts, such as here, always fails to display the minus sign.
{{center|size bar: 30 µm}}
displays as expected, while
{{center|size bar = 30 µm}}
does not display at all. That is, the presence of the equal sign suppresses the display altogether — Epipelagic ( talk) 21:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
{{center|size bar = 30 µm}}
is interpreted as assigning the value 30 µm
to a template parameter called size bar
. You can get around it by writing {{center|1=size bar = 30 µm}}
or {{center|size bar {{=}} 30 µm}}
. See
Help:Template#Usage hints and workarounds.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 23:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, could anyone tell me is there an option/setting to change the (white) background color of WP (if yes, and what options are available)? Thank You!( KIENGIR ( talk) 17:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC))
change Chrome default color scheme
(change "Chrome
" to the name of the browser you use). Or try
this search.
Mathglot (
talk) 09:13, 11 January 2021 (UTC).mw-body {
background-color: #ccc;
}
/* Per [[MediaWiki talk:Monobook.css/Archive 4#Better rendering for .diffchange in diff's...]] */
/* See also: Wikipedia:Catalogue of CSS classes, Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_37#Diff coloring again */
.diffchange {padding: 0px 2px 0px 2px; border: 1px dotted red; margin: 0px 1px 0px 0px}
[Fixed with Infobox OS parameter website special value of hide ] Lent ( talk) 03:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
The "Official Website" for SUPER-UX ( this version) is no longer valid. The displayed information is retrieved from Wikidata via Template:Infobox OS, as the website parameter is blank. The Wikidata information allows other language Wikipedia projects to use, and in this case provide, the website URL and have the information consumed and displayed by each of the Wikipedia projects.
I asked and updated the information as no longer valid, per a project chat over on Wikidata.
See: (On Wikidata) Best way to deal with link rot on "Official Website"
The Wikidata solution of setting the end time (P582) qualifier to the Wikidata statement(data) has been done. The rationale, I gather, is that old Wikidata information can be tagged with the end time (P582) to say the statement(data) was valid, up to and including the end time value. This implies, I gather, that some time after the specified end time value, the statement(data) should be treated as no longer valid.
As the Official Website still is rendered by the Infobox OS, I'm assuming that the official website (P856) value from SUPER-UX (Q2665351) is being used anyway.
What is the best way to resolve this?
Or a mixture of the preceding?
Enquiring minds want to know :) Lent ( talk) 12:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
|website=hide
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 13:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see WT:20th anniversary#A celebratory userbox I need help on how to allow users to select between two different versions of either just the date, or perhaps the entire text, whichever is simplest. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 08:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Is it possible for me to Hide the phrase "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" , written below every article title. Perhaps some change into the commons.css or my skin ? Thank you. -- Walrus Ji ( talk) 10:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
#siteSub {display: none;}
Has the EN.Wikipedia reading font been recently changed? I find it to be too small and hard to read. Fonts on other websites are OK including those on FR.Wikipedia, DE.Wikipedia and NL.Wikipedia. Is there a way to increase the font size just for EN.Wikipedia? Changing the Chrome (Version 87.0.4280.141) font setting makes the EN.Wikipedia font better but makes the font too large for all other sites. I use Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.746). Thanks. TheTrolleyPole ( talk) 15:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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So...I have stumbled upon this article - It's Only a Play. While refs are present with good/correct information, none of them use the Citation Style 1 templates - cite web/news/journal etc. What tool should I be using to fix the refs? I have tried to run my ref tools on the article but either I get a message back that all is well or (literally) nothing happens. I think I need to update my tools - like Reflinks/reFill2/etc on my common etc pages - but am not sure what needs to be fixed. If some of you wonderful tech-wizards could figure out what I am doing wrong and tell me what I need to do to get it right, that would be awesome and a big help. Cheers & thanks - Shearonink ( talk) 17:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Anyone else getting 503 varnish backend errors? I just lost an edit I was trying to save from classic source editor. And VE has slowed to a crawl. Pelagic ( messages ) – (20:04 Sat 23, AEDT) 09:04, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
On iOS mobile device (Safari and Chrome), while playing Webm and ogv embedded in an Wikipedia article, it directs users to download the file rather than a simple playback (which is ridiculous for a >100Mb video). On Android (Chrome), while ogv works perfectly, Webm could only be played from the beginning, ignoring the time tag commands (Note: most users specify a starting time of the video so that it corresponds to relevant content to the article). The above issues does not happen on desktop computers. Is there a fix? -- love.wh 04:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
I was wondering how you can get an automatically updated featured content section by the JL-Bot to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Zimbabwe/Rhodesia_task_force similar to what WP:WikiProject YouTube and WP:X/showcase have please? The C of E God Save the Queen! ( talk) 14:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I found something strange, every page that starts with "MediaWiki:Bad image list/" exists, and its specific text is
The format is as follows: Only list items (lines starting with *) are considered. The first link on a line must be a link to a bad file. Any subsequent links on the same line are considered to be exceptions, i.e. pages where the file may occur inline.
The more strange thing: none of these pages even actually exist: [14]. For example: MediaWiki:Bad image list/Archive 6, MediaWiki:Bad image list/MediaWiki:Bad image list, MediaWiki:Bad image list/hexuhv8o7d4ghfxg3sjiuyvh4s7dihrt876wtghf7.
I have no idea how this happened, but could someone please explain it to me? JJP...MASTER! [talk to] JJP... master? 23:45, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
On Alexei Navalny, is anyone else having an alignment issue with the "Leader of the Russia of the Future Party" in the infobox? For me (Safari 14.0.2, OS 11.1), "Russia of the Future" is rendering slightly below the rest of the text; the problem goes away if you get rid of the link or the footnote at the end. Esszet ( talk) 02:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Template talk:R to project namespace#RfC: Should we categorize redirects to the same namespace? There have been some late comments. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 20:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
For some reason, the ContentSub text style, used for things like short descriptions, has a much taller bottom margin. I'm using the legacy Vector skin and, to me, it looks off, having gotten used to the original spacing. - BRAINULATOR9 ( TALK) 03:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Counting the categories via {{PAGESINNAMESPACE:14}}
does not work here – the
PAGESINNAMESPACE magic word is expensive and so is
disabled on this wiki. Is there a statistics page somewhere that will say (roughly) how many pages exist here in each namespace? —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me 20:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Blocked users currently see this text when they try to edit: MediaWiki:Blockedtext. However, if a blocked user is subject to multiple blocks (for example, they're directly blocked and their IP address is also hardblocked), they instead see this default text: MediaWiki:Blockedtext-composite. This is a wholly useless message, especially in comparison to the carefully designed MediaWiki:Blockedtext. It's worse than it looks on first glance; when I was testing, I found that "$2" is always replaced with something generically useless like "there are multiple blocks affecting your account". Could someone look into replacing it with a modified copy of MediaWiki:Blockedtext, especially by adding links to WP:AAB and WP:GAB? I would do it but unfortunately I don't have the time right now. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 21:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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18:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
The Special:Contributions seems broken when processing IP6 addresses. It cannot accept the format used by [&action=history] links. Special:Contributions requires upper case IP6 while [&action=history] generates lower case IP6. If you enter one into the other it comes up null. Special:Contributions should accept any miniscule/majiscule mix-and-match. (a regexp for recognizing an IPv6 entry and then either upcasing or downcasing the input to further process seems like a solution). This is a problem when manually adding {{ unsigned}}. Also, this is a MediaWiki problem when accessing user pages. Could real user could masquerade as an IP address by using a different case or mixed case name? Where do we leave talk messages to such a user, since they appear to be different usernames with different userspace/usertalkspace pages?
Example:
-- 70.31.205.108 ( talk) 13:57, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
A workaround is probably needed. I started with a suggestion at Template talk:IPvandal#IPv6 needs to be uppercase. Johnuniq ( talk) 00:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I understood that there are categories about Serres regional unit, of Central Macedonia Region at Greece that have problem to the name. Category "People from Skoutari" refers to municipal unit of Skoutari, however there is the village of Skoutari (the capital of municipal unit), too. Or the category People from Nea Zichni. This category refers to Municipal of Nea Zichni but there are also the municipal unit of Nea Zichni and the village of Nea Zichni (capital of the Municipal and the municipal unit.) Maybe someone user can help to the rename of the categories? BILL1 ( talk) 01:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I think that category about the people from Nea Zichni must rename to "People from Nea Zichni (municipal)" (because there is also village and municipal unit with this name. A possible future category about people from Nea Zichni municipal unit can named "People from Nea Zichni (municipal unit) and a possible future category about the people from Nea Zichni village can named "People from Nea Zichni". BILL1 ( talk) 01:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Izno can you help me? BILL1 ( talk) 03:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
When looking at the diff for the only revision of a page (e.g.
Special:Diff/1002959183/prev) on Monobook, the background heading is white which stand out from the off-white Monobook background. The culprit is a CSS constraint table.diff, td.diff-otitle, td.diff-ntitle { background-color: white; }
but I couldn't find it in the site's common.css or monobook.css so is this a recent change on the parser side? —
Wug·
a·po·des 20:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I am aware that this has been discussed before since I had a quick search of the archives. But the problem still persists that the captcha shown when you create an account or add a link to an article is not accessible to blind people such as myself.
Yes, you can request that someone creates an account for you, which is what I did when I joined. But many people may be put off by this.
I feel that Wikipedia should provide an audio challenge or use something like reCAPTCHA v2's I'm not a robot tick box. Many website's use either of these methods, and Wikipedia is one of the few I can think of that doesn't.
What are your thoughts on this, and is anyone currently working on a solution?
Many thanks. KaraLG84 ( talk) 14:21, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello.
Could someone please do something about {{ Category U.S. State elections by decade}}, which doesn't work properly after a category move.
See several subcategories of Category:Elections in Washington, D.C., for instance Category:1970s elections in Washington, D.C..
Thank you.
HandsomeFella ( talk) 07:30, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
I reupload this image page sandbox for tests, because my picture is a jpeg, not png. Can I go ahead, upload my file, and then use that as a file sandbox? 54nd60x ( talk) 04:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Free France#Section edit links missing for a summary of a problem at the Free France article, which currently has no section edit links. I've seen this before elsewhere, and it's usually a template problem. I searched back as far as 2017 (e.g., rev 809824702) which also displays the same problem, and it's extremely unlikely it was not noticed at the article this long and furthermore, the history shows plenty of section links auto-generated by the edit section procedure. Most probably, the article is transcluding a template that was recently changed and not fully tested. It's possible the problem is my own, since I do edit templates, but nothing lately, and I don't see it at first glance. Can anyone have a quick look, to see if you can find the culprit? Thanks. Mathglot ( talk) 23:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
General Leclerc’s second armored division included two units of female volunteers: The Rochambeau Group in the infantry (dozens of women) and the Woman Service of the Naval Fleet in the marines (9 women). Their role consisted of administering first aid to the first line of injured soldiers (often to stop bleeding) before evacuating them by stretcher to ambulances and then driving these ambulances under enemy fire to care centers several kilometers behind the lines.<ref>{{cite web|title=Les Filles de la DB|url=http://www.marinettes-et-rochambelles.com/|website=www.marinettes-et-rochambelles.com|access-date=2018-10-24}}</ref>.<table class="plainlinks metadata ambox ambox-notice" role="presentation"><tr><td class="mbox-image"><div style="width:52px">[[File:Replacement filing cabinet.svg|50x40px|Archive|alt=|link=]]</div></td><td class="mbox-text"><div class="mbox-text-span">This page is an [[Help:Archiving a talk page|archive]]. '''Do not edit the contents of this page'''. Please direct any additional comments to the [[Femmes dans la Résistance intérieure française|current talk page]].</div></td></tr></table>__NOEDITSECTION__ __NONEWSECTIONLINK__I've fixed the issue now. -- Izno ( talk) 23:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Greetings and felicitations. I've enabled the "Display categories" gadget in mobile. I use Safari under the latest version of iOS, and the Vector (default) skin (i.e., I'm using a browser, not the Wiki app). I appreciate the option, but IMHO there is one small problem with the appearance: the categories have nothing separating them from external links if an "External links" section is toggled open, and in that browser the link color is the same whether a link is internal or external, so the link(s) and the category/ies are crowded together and difficult to distinguish at first glance. Would it be possible to add a carriage return/line break or other separator to the end of the last section when it's toggled open? — DocWatson42 ( talk) 01:13, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
When I'm using mobile I'm getting multiple "An attempt to load a user script has failed" error messages (apparently in my case it seems to involve DYKhelper). Other editors I've talked to on Discord have reported a similar issue. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 23:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I assume this is a nonstarterWhy? That's exactly what we're doing with the globals. It just takes someone doing it. -- Izno ( talk) 00:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript
, like many of its cousins, was deprecated in
MediaWiki 1.29. 1.29 was formally released nearly 4 years ago at this point. I am 100% certain we have seen at least one Tech News covering the deprecation.Code that you insert on this page could contain malicious content capable of compromising your account. If you import a script from another page with "importScript" or "iusc", take note that this causes you to dynamically load a remote script, which could be changed by others.If importScript has long been deprecated, should this text be modified? – Jonesey95 ( talk) 03:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I definitely can help in migrating, just currently busy with thousands of usages of deprecated globals (just counting mediawiki namespace). Once I'm done with that, ping me and I help with this one too User:Jon (WMF) Ladsgroup overleg 05:59, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Are we talking about a retrospective change to all user scripts that still use the equivalent of {{ iusc}} / {{ Install user script}} to use {{ Lusc}} / {{ Load user script}} instead? — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 13:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
From WP:IANB:
Empty function body is fine here for making sure the errors don't flood our logs, but obviously doesn't help with getting this fixed on the long term. For most scripts, the fix is for user scripts to stop running the code on mobile. Do we know how this code even got onto mobile? On other wikis, this has been because users edited Special:MyPage/minerva.js but here it seems that people had no idea how they loaded the code in question. Perhaps we need to review the MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition - it's possible some gadgets have been marked to mobile but don't work there which is why so many people saw the error. Jon (WMF) ( talk) 16:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Jon (WMF), it's not gadgets:
- User adds script to their common.js subpage
- User goes to mobile page
- That's all that's needed, yeah? If it never produced a (visible) error or change, no end user would have known until now. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 17:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- (this.) I easily suspect this occurs rampantly - mobile view is still loading wiki:User/common.js and meta:User/global.js correct? Because these get polluted by tons of copypasta all the time by users that don't really know what they are doing - often importing scripts that then import more scripts as well. — xaosflux Talk 17:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
No. Mobile does not load common.js subpage. Instead it loads Special:mypage/minerva.js (or perhaps mobile.js - I can't remember the status quo). Perhaps it's originating in global JS from meta.wiki? That does load on mobile? Jon (WMF) ( talk) 18:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- @ Jon (WMF): I put something in my User:Xaosflux/common.js and it loaded on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page as well as /info/en/?search=Main_Page?useskin=minerva. — xaosflux Talk 18:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps you are thinking about the sitelocal common.js, not the sitelocal user:common.js ? — xaosflux Talk 18:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting. I guess we changed this sometime recently, but I can't remember why and when! Okay, well at least that explains this. User common.js runs on mobile. I guess the correct thing for users to do is to move that to their desktop skin JS, as this code throwing errors it definitely not common to all skins. :) Jon (WMF) ( talk) 19:03, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
One of the affected users, Celestina007, has 3 Javascript pages locally: User:Celestina007/common.js, User:Celestina007/twinkleoptions.js, User:Celestina007/redwarnConfig.js, and a JSON page User:Celestina007/raterPrefs.json. I'd guess the 'config' pages aren't relevant. -- Izno ( talk) 18:56, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript
and friends, it's going to be "just make it work".(extra Javascript load, not exactly the same function at the end of the day anyway re asynchronicity, etc.)please elaborate ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 01:14, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript
, importStylesheet
, addOnloadHook
, and even addPortletLink
that will need doing. I don't see a viable path beyond blanking and botting given the numbers. An RfC or something could determine the dividing line — userspace owner hasn't edited in X years, script not edited in Y years, etc. — but it's either shim forever or blank and bot, no? ~ Amory (
u •
t •
c) 02:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
whenever that happensI mean, on an infinite timescale... One advantage of a shim is, as we've seen, that we can message users through it. Console notices progressing to a weekly/daily message, that sort of thing. Could be handy.By blank and bot, I mean that there are tens of thousands of unused user scripts and skin pages. One could imagine authorizing a bot to clean up every page as long as the owner had been active within a couple years or the script had been edited lately or something, and blanking otherwise. "Blanking" could even be a "if you see this message it was blanked by RfC, see link and do this fix" kind of thing. Just spitballing, but trying to say that given the scale we're talking about the viable options are limited. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 03:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript("User:Example user/script.js");
If I'm looking for an editor's contribs from date x onwards, I go to their contribs, then "search for contributions", then I add two dates: from date x, to date y.
I can never get the "from" date to work. When, after entering the dates, I go to "oldest", I'm taken to the editor's first edit, not the first edit on the "from" date. What am I doing wrong? SarahSV (talk) 21:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20190101010000&dir=prev&contribs=user&target=SlimVirgin
where the "offset=" is YYYYMMDDhhmm format. —
xaosflux
Talk 22:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)My cheatsheet:
Johnuniq ( talk) 01:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Usually, when you click on
a red link like this while logged in, it will takes you to the editor for that article to create (i.e. it links to
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=a_red_link_like_this&action=edit&redlink=1
instead of
/info/en/?search=a_red_link_like_this
). I personally find this rather annoying, so I'd like to ask if there are any way of stopping the editor to launch automatically and have the red links go to Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. message instead.
NotCory ( talk) 07:54, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
$("a.new").each((i,el)=>$(el).attr("href", $(el).attr("href").match(/(\/w\/index.php\?title=.+)&action=edit&redlink=1/)[1]));
. What it does is replaces every red link's
href property with the href without the part that says &action=edit&redlink=1
. Hope this helped! ―
sportzpikachu
my talk
contribs 08:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)References
{{subst:lusc|1=User:Awesome Aasim/noeditredlinks.js}}
@ Sportzpikachu: and @ PrimeHunter: I'm honestly surprised that this function is not available in the settings page. Thanks! NotCory ( talk) 09:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi all
I've been looking at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources and wondering if there would be some way of showing on the Wikipedia article for those sources that they are considered a reliable source by Wikipedia or not. This could be helpful for both new and experienced users who are researching a new topic to identify which reference sources are reliable, especially if they are not aware of this table which a lot of work has gone into, and also possibly readers who wanted to know more about a news or other reference source's reliability.
I'm unsure how technically reading information off the table at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources but I have a few initial ideas on what this could look like.
Please let me know what you think of this idea or possibly how it could be implemented
Thanks very much
John Cummings ( talk) 22:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks very much @ The Earwig: and @ Izno:, these look like very useful tool. What I've tried to describe is different to these (if I understand what they are doing). I would like to be able to go the Wikipedia article for a reference source on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources eg Daily Mail and somewhere on the article or the talk page without installing any plug ins to be able to to see something like to:
Wikipedia does not use NAME OF ARTICLE as a reliable source. There is community consensus from a request for comment to deprecate NAME OF ARTICLE as a source. The source is considered generally unreliable, and use of the source is generally prohibited. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources for more information on reliable sources.
This would only be added to articles or talk pages that exist on the perennial sources page, so would only be around 500 pages or so. My guess is the easiest way this could be achieved in a template on the talk page which somehow can keep up with changes on the main perennial sources page.
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 23:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to know why Category:The Walt Disney Company is a distant subcategory of Category:Finnish people, but what's the fastest way to find it out? I don't want to click the blue ►'s on a category page until I find the connection. 87.95.206.253 ( talk) 18:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
The page Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/Israel hasn't been updated in a week. During that time I created a Wikidata item eligible for inclusion on the page via the automated (Listeria) update, but it understandably doesn't appear in the list. As manual additions are removed by the next update, I chose to engage "Update the list now." The result was a full-screen message: Listeria: Killed by OS for overloading memory. (Also: "Check out the current bot status" - which displayed a table beyond my understanding.). What to do now? (I wrote here because the WikiProject page is in the EN WP.) -- Deborahjay ( talk) 12:25, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
(UTC)
and not (UTC)''
. If you want the user parts to be in italics then you can enter ''-- [[User:Deborahjay|Deborahjay]] ([[User talk:Deborahjay|talk]])''
in the Signature field at
Special:Preferences and enable "Treat the above as wiki markup".
PrimeHunter (
talk) 13:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Maybe this is a non-issue, but I always have to go through and unwatch pages that are archived (old PRs, GAs, FACs etc.) and I certainly have forgotten to do so plenty of times. Is there a reason that we're able to continue watching archived pages? Maybe this is a non-issue, as in it doesn't take anything extra to watch them, but at the same time it seems pointless. Any thoughts? Apologies if this has been discussed before. Aza24 ( talk) 00:18, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Can anybody explain why this edit by GeneralNotability ( talk · contribs) is shown as "Reverted"? Subsequent edits (of which there are two as I write this) do not reinstate the content removed by GeneralNotability. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:56, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi All, I thought I had asked this question before, but, not able to find in the archives, so, I am beginning to wonder if I ever asked this question here at all.
While working at WP:ITN and WP:ITNRD we want to answer a simple question. What fraction of an article's page views come from clicks on the homepage when an article is listed on ITN. So, all I am looking for is referral data for a page saying of x page views, y came in from the homepage. This referral data seems like it would be collected for sure, but, have not seen this in the page views tool. Is there some other place where we can find this information? We want to use this data to get a better understanding of what links the users click on our homepage, and more specifically on the ITN panel. Thanks in advance. Ktin ( talk) 23:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
John_le_Carré Main_Page other 1713
John_le_Carré_bibliography Main_Page other 31
Main_Page John_le_Carré:_The_Biography other 51
Main_Page John_le_Carré_bibliography other 163
Main_Page John_le_Carré other 23500
In
this edit, a page which was originally written with (((...)))
instead of [[...]]
was fixed to use the later. Is there some other platform (i.e. one from which this might have been copied) that uses triple parens for markup? --
RoySmith
(talk) 19:38, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Has anybody noticed any changes to how radio buttons display in page histories next to (cur | prev)? Feels like it used to be more like:
(cur | prev) 🔘 🔘
But now it's more like:
(cur | prev)🔘🔘
with radio buttons touching each other, and also closer to the closing parenthesis.
First saw it on on Win 10 Chrome, but I also see it on Win 10 Edge while logged out, so I don't think it has anything to do with my browser or account settings. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 20:06, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Ex. here. The relevant user is not only auto-confirmed, but also extended-confirmed, but their changes are somehow not getting auto-accepted. Is this a known issue? RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 02:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Syntax highlighting on this page was disabled because it took too long. The maximum allowed highlighting time is 20ms, and your computer took 27ms. Try closing some tabs and programs and clicking "Show preview" or "Show changes". If that doesn't work, try a different web browser, and if that doesn't work, try a faster computer.
"Try a faster computer."??? We aren't working at some computer fair where we can hop about and sign on to one computer after another. This whole message above has randomly been popping up the last day or so. As I'm typing this, everything went back to normal - and I did not shut one tab or doing anything else it suggests. But this is a pain. Reminds me of the old, old days of Wikipedia when we had to save our stuff every few minutes. My computer did not suddenly become old, or slow. And it only seems to be on this wikipedia. I just did a test on Wikisource, and it looks like it has always looked on my computer. Not happening on Commons, either. — Maile ( talk) 16:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
wish to insert Help:Table example, to make width of wikitable from 200px to 800px. although, seems to have no effect..
× | 1 | 2 | 3 |
---|---|---|---|
1 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
2 | 2 | 4 | 6 |
3 | 3 | 6 | 9 |
4 | 4 | 8 | 12 |
5 | 5 | 10 | 15 |
please advise Gfigs ( talk) 00:10, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
width: 20%
. That requests the cell width to be 20% of the whole table. Browsers don't cut off content to satisfy a width constraint. They make the cell as wide as needed to show the whole content.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 09:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Table |
Gfigs ( talk) 07:45, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Table |
Interwiki links break on nonexistent pages break if they are very long. An example is here. I am using chrome version 88.0.4324.104. - 322UbnBr2 ( Talk | Contributions | Actions) 00:58, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Special:Search/
in {{
No article text/sister projects}} and that pushes it over a 255-byte limit. It works in a local link:{{PAGENAME}}
and not attempt to make interwiki links if it's too long. We could either omit links completely or use external link syntax which does work:
Wiktionary.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 02:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
wiktionary:
plus 255 A's and works:wikt:
plus 256 A's and fails:[[wikt:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA]]
Hello, just checking if anyone else is having similar issues or if it's just my computer playing silly devils. For the past couple of days, if I sign in, look at my watchlist page, then go to another page, when I move to the other page, I get signed out. It also happens sometimes if I switch pages between other, non-watchlist, pages. Not sure what the possible cause could be. Red Fiona ( talk) 16:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
This is NOT a discussion about deleting the main page, rather a technical question I have after reading the page Wikipedia:Don't delete the main page. Is it really true that administrators can't delete the main page? And what does it mean that it might work? It was confusing and hard to understand, but I still want to know what technically happens when you try to delete the main page. 54nd60x ( talk) 11:45, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
You cannot delete or move the main page.
, this is because of a custom hack for the configuration that only applies to enwiki that intercepts that action. —
xaosflux
Talk 12:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
As some of you may be aware, using the bare global variables (e.g. wgPageTitle
or wgNamespaceNumber
) has been
deprecated for some time, where instead mw.config.get('wgPageTitle')
should be used (more info at
mediawiki). A lot of customized user javascript pages still use these deprecated global "wg" variables, but as these will at some point stop working, the
most imported scripts have now either been dealt with or will be in the near future.
Remaining, though, are users' individual skin customization pages (e.g. common.js or vector.js). Alongside some discussion on WP:IANB, I've made a list of every such skin page using legacy variables, and would like to start fixing the pages of active users so these deprecated things can be turned off without causing mass-disruption; every edit would be manual with regex and AWB, a process already effective. That discussion has some links to prior discussion and more info, and although this should be a largely unnoticed process, I thought folks should be aware of it. Global interface editors and staffers have already been making edits, and will continue do so otherwise. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 22:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I've been looking for a fix or work-around for a minor issue regarding quoted text in articles.
Under the usual rules in journalism ( Strunk & White, et. al.), when an author inserts additional info in a quotation for clarification it is placed in brackets rather than parentheses to indicate this is not part of the original quote.
In Wikipedia such additional info is often in the form of a link, especially where non-English sources are being quoted. However, since links are formatted using brackets, there seems to be no way to also use brackets to indicate that this is additional info. Any attempt to do so messes up the formatting. The fallback is to use parentheses, but this is misleading to the reader as it appears to be part of the actual quote.
As an example from my most recent work: "The 84th Guards Division (commanded by Major General Georgii Borisovich Peters) was formed in the Kuybyshevsky district of Moscow as the 4th Moscow Division of the People's Militia ( Narodnoe Opolcheniye)." In this instance the first parentheses are from the the original document. The second is from my insertion of a relevant link, and it should be in brackets, but I can't figure out any way to make it so. Wreck Smurfy ( talk) 02:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi there, im writing om behalf of Hindi Wikipedia, we have been redesigning our main page, ive been doing most of the work on it. However, the 'Main Page' title still appears on our [hi.wikipedia.org main page], we want to remove it. I however have no Idea on how to do it. can someone pleae help me with it, or help direct me to a place where I can get help. Thankyou. 🙏 Innocentbunny TALK 22:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
body.page-Main_Page.action-view h1.firstHeading, body.page-Main_Page.action-submit h1.firstHeading { display: none; }
- this should hide the main page title. See
mw:Manual:FAQ#How do I hide the main page title? ✨
Ed
talk! ✨ 22:57, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
footer-info-lastmod
because the page itself is rarely edited and we don't want readers to think we aren't updated. The English Wikipedia does not allow images in signatures per
Wikipedia:Signatures#Images.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 23:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
So I had come across what I thought could be a helpful tool to have in Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation shortcuts. I put it in my common.js and saved before I realised that the template it links to in Template:Navshortcuts has been deleted. It appears users thought it wasn't a template and then it was a test page. So it maybe a case that this is all so old now and not usable but I'm wondering if there is anything can be done to recreate it? I'd even have the script on one of my own pages if we can have the original template back. I just don't know what the script will be. NZFC (talk) (cont) 02:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
mw.loader.load('/?title=User:Jsimlo/shortcuts.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
–
BrandonXLF (
talk) 04:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
importScript(...)
/mw.loader.load(...)
seems to be because the script adds some extra configuration to your common.js. —
The Earwig
talk 20:25, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Cython#Example. The bottom half of the image on the right isn't clickable, likely due to the syntax-highlighted paragraph on the left. How to fix it? -- fireattack ( talk) 12:09, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Lilac Soul/popups.js is another of these locked user JS pages by users who rarely or never edit any more that's causing problems for the redirect bot to move from Category:Foo to Category:X1. Can someone with the technical access/knowhow please either move it or better still zap the problem completely? Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering ( talk) 12:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Ira Leviton kindly corrected the punctuation in three {{cite book}} entries on a page I created, where a stray comma had been left after the publisher's address. As far as I remember, all three were created by using the cite book template, entering the ISBN, and accepting whatever it returned. Obviously, in future I shall keep an eye on the punctuation that it leaves lying around. I am wondering, though, if this is a problem with the cite book template, or with the Wikidata content on which (I assume) it relies?
Verbarson ( talk) 20:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-maint {display: inline;} /* display Citation Style 1 maintenance messages */
to your personal CSS page, which will display many other "possibly wrong" things (which is why maintenance messages are hidden by default). --
Izno (
talk) 20:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)I have placed the Userbox {{User lives in|England}} in my user page where it forms part of a table. In order to get the table to display correctly, I had to add </td><td> after the template to start a new cell, instead of putting ||. This still happens when I remove the England parameter (and live on Planet Earth). It does not occur for any of the other userboxes I currently use. I assume this is a bug in the template, as it appears no different to other Userboxes in usage or presentation.
Verbarson ( talk) 20:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
||
to separate cells must be on a line starting with |
. Before my edit, the template broke that. You could have started the next cell on a new line with |
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 21:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)I attempted to move 東京 to 東京 (disambiguation). The move should overwrite the redirect at 東京 (disambiguation), which points to 東京 and only has one edit. However an error message popped up preventing me from moving the page. HELP 053pvr ( talk) 22:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Sometimes in Talk or Wikipedia namespace it's useful to be able to link to sources that would never be acceptable in Main space. My current occurrence was naturalnews, but some others were while trying to edit old archives from WP:ITN which included now blacklisted links. Anyway, maybe take a feature to selectively enable that feature by namespace. -- LaserLegs ( talk) 02:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey, could somebody take a look at WT:Wikipedia Signpost#Single-page edition doesn't work ... it looks like it might be due to a template-too-large error. We have implemented a workaround, so it's not a showstopper, but it should get fixed before the next edition. ☆ Bri ( talk) 02:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
I noted here that I am no longer able to set Pending Changes protection for articles. I have full access to the semi-protection fields, and the Move Protection option opens up when I click "unlock further protect options", but the Pending Changes box remains greyed-out and unclickable. I've tried logging out and back in again and the same issue occurs whether I use Firefox (my default browser) or Chrome. I'm using the Monobook Skin. @ Xaosflux:.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
"error": { "code": "stabilize_denied", "info": "Permission denied.", "*": "See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at < https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes." }, "servedby": "mw1363"
Hello everyone, a brief update on this issue. When we noticed this issue, we decided to rollback all wikis to previous MediaWiki version (wmf.27), which fixed this. Right now, we believe the issue is successfully fixed by reverting two problematic patches, and we tested the fix at test2.wikipedia.org, which has FlaggedRevs enabled. Right now, all wikis but Wikipedias (including the English Wikipedia) are at wmf.28, while Wikipedias are still at wmf.27. Wikipedias should be upgraded later today, so we can proceed with the next version (wmf.29) on Tuesday, per the regular process. We're pretty certain the issue is fixed, and won't reappear, but if this becomes a problem again, please ping me, so I can investigate more. Best, -- Martin Urbanec ( talk) 14:17, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I'm on ckbwiki. A while ago, Mediawiki had added a new level of protection called editautoautorollprotected. Now, that level is not in Module:Protected edit request/active. For example, see ckb:وتووێژی داڕێژە:زانیاریدانی ئەنیمانگا/سەر, which is written that the protection level (editautoautorollprotected) is unknown as an error message. I edited the module according to exist codes (See the diff), but it didn't work. Can anyone help us? Thank you! ⇒ Aram Talk 20:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
It's 2021, and our sortable tables still somehow aren't sortable on mobile. Is this sitting as a request somewhere, and if so, how do we give it a boost? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 23:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to second the need to prioritize this. It is frustrating and honestly rude to the reader that this functionality is removed on mobile – both the app and mobile browser. And on mobile Chrome browser "Request Desktop Site" just redirects back to the mobile page, even though I can manually remove the "m." from the url and sortability works. Wikipedia used to have many duplicative articles (actually still does) with related data but sorted differently, but sortable tables made these unnecessary and encouraged merges. The long-term failure to implement this capability removes the ability of mobile readers to get the best understanding in an article that its writers deliberately made possible. Thanks, Reywas92 Talk 04:25, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Not that I want to create the page yet, but I am wondering, why is it impossible to create the page? Unlike trying to edit the page WP:123, which instantly redirects to Wikipedia:123, the skin page doesn’t work when you are logged in. In fact, you can’t even protect the page (I’m not admin) but when I tried to do it https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:54nd60x&action=protect it went to User:54nd60x/timeless.css a few seconds later because I use the timeless skin. So who can directly create the page? It wouldn’t be a problem for non-logged in users (I tried going to the skin.css page while logged out it doesn’t redirect.) Again, I’m not trying to create the page, but I just noticed this unusual pattern while trying to create the page and it surprised me. 54nd60x ( talk) 03:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
I uploaded this animation and tried adding it to 2020 SO:
but the animation does not play despite only being the small thumbnail.
On the file's pages (Commons and WP) it displays: Note: Due to technical limitations, thumbnails of high resolution GIF images such as this one will not be animated.
How to add it in a way to make it play without having to upload a smaller version (there already are smaller rendered other resolutions)?
If that's currently not possible are there phabricator issues for this problem?
-- Prototyperspective ( talk) 23:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I was just browsing Wikipedia on my mobile device and I came across this “skin:”
However, it is not one of the five skins in preferences, and it is also not cologneblue or apioutput.. Doesn’t look like the Nostalgia skin either. So is this even a skin? If yes, what skin is this? If not, why and when does this appear? This “skin” doesn’t appear to me too often but it does occur occasionally. 54nd60x ( talk) 09:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
For example, on WWE Raw the episode number is manually increased by +1 each week. This can be easily missed by editors, and if there's a factual error it means we're worsening the problem by adding a number each week. It would be grand if there was a way for this number to increase by one automatically every Monday. WWE rarely ever misses shows of Raw: they even filmed a live one on Christmas Day in 2019. Automating this seems like a no-brainer. Additionally, it would need to start on 1445 as that's the current number of episodes. — Czello 16:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#expr:1000 + {{age in weeks|January 1, 2016}}}}
→ 1434. If they ever went off schedule, you could adjust the starting point. That said, I'm not convinced this is a great idea. —
The Earwig
talk 16:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)According to IMDB the 28th season had 56 episodes. This suggest not all are 7 days apart, need to verify. -- Green C 17:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
I guess it would be pretty simple: {{#expr:{{Time ago|2021-02-01|magnitude=weeks|numeric=y}} + 1445}}
though I added a new |numeric=
feature to {{
time ago}}
to make it work. It says add the number of weeks since 2021-02-01 to 1445. --
Green
C 18:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#expr:{{Time ago|2021-02-01|magnitude=weeks|numeric=y}} + {{#expr:1445<!--Shows as of 2021-02-01--> - (1<!--Christmas 2020 no show--> + 1<!--Easter no show-->) + (1<!--Special show 06-01-2021--> + 1<!-- Special show 08-01-2021-->)}}}}
so it is self-documenting. --
Green
C 18:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Why are Parser string functions not being expanded in Special:ExpandTemplates? Or in my sandbox, or here either, for that matter:
I'm pretty sure this worked before. I must be doing something incredibly dumb; when you stop snickering, please clue me in; what am I missing? Mathglot ( talk) 21:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Notes
In the future, can I post edit requests to the MediaWiki namespace here instead of on the talk page? I submitted some edit requests and the talk page says "Talk pages in this namespace are generally not watched by many users." I know that the edit requests are tracked, but I still think that announcing it here would bring more people to the discussion. 54nd60x ( talk) 02:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
I went to post a note on the template talk page, and noted others were having the same problem. For me, it works in Chrome and FF on MS, but not in FF on Mint. (Though it does work in Falkon on Mint.) Others have had problems in Chrome, dating back to Sept., but didn't specify their OS. — kwami ( talk) 07:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
I prepared the wikitext of a response to a question at the Reference Desk offline in a text editor and then copied it over to the Wikipedia edit window using copy–
paste. In doing so I must have made the mistake of giving the paste command twice, because the text was duplicated. At least, I assume that was my fault. In previewing I did not notice the duplication, but I saw a mark-up error, which I corrected in the second pasted copy before "publishing". Afterwards, it turned out there had been another modification, in the first of the two pasted copies: the text "the realm of" has been replaced there by "the [[Category:realm]] of
". I swear I did not make this senseless change. Its provenance is a complete mystery to me. Does this ring any bells with anyone? --
Lambiam 12:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
[[Category:]]
in the "Wiki markup" selection of the drop-down menu below the edit area.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi all
I've spent quite a lot of time building a resource to help keep people's multiple sandboxes organised to make writing draft articles and publishing them a bit easier
Whilst people can simply copy the page and change the name in the wiki text manually I would really like to make a page on Wikipedia where people can make their own version of this simply by clicking a button, this will make it easier to discover and also use the tool.
To make a version of this page for other users all that needs to happen is for my name to be replaced in the wikicode with the user who wants to use it (I have instructions at the bottom of the page for doing this manually). Because the page uses multiple tools there are two versions of the username that have to be replaced, one which replaces a space with a '+' and another which replaces a space with _, eg John+Cummings and John_Cummings.
Does anyone have an idea of how to create a button that would
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 15:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
{{ROOTPAGENAME}}
to automatically get the username in an unchanged copy.
[32] I also made some other changes. PAGENAMEE
with EE
makes url encoding in magic words.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 11:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
§ion=new
will add a new section with the preload whether the page exists or not:
[33]&preloadtitle=
can specify a section name which will also be in the automatic edit summary. It's blank in my example. I don't think you can make a preload command to overwrite existing content. You cannot preload from another wiki. mfb's link makes /Sandbox with uppercase S. This is not the link on "sandbox" in the default interface.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 14:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Jonesey95:, @ Mathglot:, @ PrimeHunter:, @ Mfb: thanks so much for your work on this, I've got a bit lost with the technical language, could someone recap to now what works and doesn't work? I'm not sure how to test it myself as I already have it on my sandbox and if I blank it and try to load the link above it just loads a blank page. Just FYI it seems that @ Headbomb: has created a template at 'Template:Sandbox organizer' but not sure how this works or if it could be helpful building a button for people to use to make their own sandbox organiser. John Cummings ( talk) 10:10, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks @ Mfb: I created User:John_Cummings/sandbox2 using https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:MyPage/sandbox&preload=User:Template:Sandbox_organiser&action=edit however it doesn't work correctly and just makes broken links in the page, I just tried to import all the changes that @ PrimeHunter: made to my userpage over to the template and it broke the template. Any ideas how to fix it? I feel like we are very close to making it work and then I can write all the documentation. Thanks very much for your help John Cummings ( talk) 15:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
{{ROOTPAGENAME}}
. Users who copy it may find it odd and wonder whether something is wrong if they see somebody else's username 15 times in the wikitext. At
Template:Sandbox organizer the current code in
User:John Cummings/sandbox would make links for
User:Sandbox organizer. I have created that account and can mail you the password if you want to use it as an example user.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 20:52, 28 January 2021 (UTC){{ROOTPAGENAME}}
with {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|10|Example|{{ROOTPAGENAME}}}}
. That is designed to also work at other wikis. If it only has to work at the English Wikipedia then it could use {{
template other}} and say {{template other|Example|{{ROOTPAGENAME}}}}
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:38, 28 January 2021 (UTC)Hi @ PrimeHunter:
Thanks so much for trying to explain things, honestly I'm pretty lost now with the new account and the template stuff, whatever way you think works best. Maybe if I just outline again the functionality and you make the magic happen whichever way you think will be the best option?
I was thinking about asking for the button to be added to the bottom of the sandbox organiser as well but encouraging people to go get the most up to date version on the centralised page is probably a good idea. I assume people will adapt it to specific use cases and perhaps there could be several different ones people could chose from.
Thanks again
John Cummings ( talk) 00:10, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
@ PrimeHunter: @ Mfb: did I do this part right? User:Sandbox organizer/sandbox and then I just need to use a link but this one doesn't work and I don't understand why.... https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:MyPage/sandbox&preload=User:Sandbox_organizer/sandbox&action=edit ? John Cummings ( talk) 19:12, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Template:Excerpt doesn't recognize en-dashes when taking out some paragraphs, only hyphens, and if I put an en dash there it just thinks nothing is there at all. Since MOS:DASH and some some scripts that I use to clean up are a thing, it makes it a bit tricky. Could someone go in there and make it accept en dashes or something? Thanks. Flalf Talk 05:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
{{Excerpt|Foobar|paragraphs=1–2}}
, using an en-dash (1–2) instead of a hyphen (1-2)? If so, that's technically possible but... highly inadvisable, in my opinion. The template argument isn't prose so MOS:DASH needn't apply.
This diff suggests the dashes user script should leave it alone. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 05:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't know if anyone watches the talk page, so reporting here as well. See: Module talk:Excerpt#Bug report: Failure to display templated content in fragment and parameter problem. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 09:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Take a look at the summary of
this diff. Even though I used [[:/æ/ raising]]
with a colon in the summary as I did on the page (
proof), it's linked to
Talk:Near-open front unrounded vowel/æ/ raising, not
/æ/ raising. (1) Has it always been like this? IIRC I feel like the summary parser would correctly point a link like this to the page in the main namespace. (2) Is there a way to link to
/æ/ raising in a summary in a namespace that allows subpages?
Nardog (
talk) 14:14, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
[[::/æ/ raising]]
fails.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 14:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
/
is usually fine, although there are certain combinations of /
with .
that are disallowed.
the wub
"?!" 00:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[[w:en:/æ/ raising]]
isaacl (
talk) 19:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi all
I'm working on a tool to help people organise their sandbox and with a lot of help from PrimeHunter I'm 99.9% of the way there. However I'm stuck with one last thing, I want to create a button which people click on to create the tool in their sandbox, however the link is a little complicated and is confusing the template I'm trying to use. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to embed this link into a button?
Currently I'm trying to use 'blue button' but its getting a bit confused and puts brackets around the link and adds a pipe to the title of the section it creates
[ Click here to create a Sandbox organiser in your sanbox
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks
John Cummings ( talk) 11:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
elink
parameter for external link syntax. The below uses that and the more portable fullurl, plus plainlinks
to omit the external link icon.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Click here to create a Sandbox organiser in your sandbox
My watchlist has become sentient. It thinks it knows what I want and has decided to act upon what it thinks. How can I control this before it is too late? - John Connor wooF 19:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I created the redirect And just like that but there is not currently an article called And Just Like That.... When one is created, my redirect will have to be changed to redirect to the new article. I can't just redirect to the proposed article name because the bot will get to it first.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
#REDIRECT [[some wikitext which produces the page name]]
was possible (this is
phab:T3575 from 2005) then we could use existing features to code things like: "redirect to PAGE1 if PAGE1 is an article, redirect to the same target as PAGE1 if PAGE1 is a redirect, and redirect to PAGE2 if PAGE1 doesn't exist". None of this is possible now.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Whenever I visit CentralAuth for an account, it almost always has local accounts on login.wikimedia.org or meta.wikimedia.org, even if it was just created. But occasionally it lacks them, like here and here.
And sometimes an account has no CentralAuth profile at all (i.e. it returns "There is no global account for '...'") even though it has some local edits here and was created long after the SUL finalization (I'm afraid I couldn't dig up an example of this, but I've seen it).
How do they happen? I'd like to know if it reveals anything about the accounts (e.g. created in some unusual way), which might help us combat cross-wiki abuse. Nardog ( talk) 02:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
$wgCentralAuthAutoCreateWikis = [ 'loginwiki', 'metawiki' ];
says to - but I think that process also fails gracefully if for whatever reason it doesn't pass. These types of users will normally end up getting these SUL users once they log in again. —
xaosflux
Talk 04:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)@ Xaosflux: Also, I noticed some unusual cases that have accounts on centralauth with 0 attached wikis, but are totally impossible to create and I don't know why it ended up on there. For example, this username contains the invalid characters "{" and "}". Also this, and this. None of those accounts are possible to create as those usernames contain unsupported characters, so what is that about? 54nd60x ( talk) 14:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
For more details, please visit T269831. Therefore, please use "repair single page" or its similar function before the task is solved.-- Alcremie ( talk) 01:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
My understanding, backed by multiple Google tests, is that redirects shouldn't appear in search engine hits and that their target is retrieved instead. However, Fish-eye disease shows as first result in Fish eye disease Wikipedia, tho doesn't in DDG. I tried to explain this by features like being connected to a WD item or being an R from merge, but results show this is irrelevant. Any explanation I'm missing? Assem Khidhr ( talk) 01:27, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow">
noindex
in the HTML.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 02:38, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Sandbox Organiser A place to help you organise your work |
Hi all
Wikipedia:Sandbox organiser is a set of tools to help you better organise your draft articles and other pages in your userspace. It also includes areas to keep your to do lists, bookmarks, list of tools. You can customise your sandbox organiser to add new features and sections. Once created you can access it simply by clicking the sandbox link at the top of the page. You can create and then customise your own sandbox organiser just by clicking the button. All ideas for improvements and other versions would be really appreciated.
Huge thanks to PrimeHunter and NavinoEvans for their work on the technical parts, without them it wouldn't have happened.
John Cummings ( talk) 10:44, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the Classical music related changes is showing conversations and edits from the tea house & help desk? Best - Aza24 ( talk) 10:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Fussed by the lack of a preference (any longer) I've edited Help:Preferences here basing myself on WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153#Edit box size Could someone savvy review this please? Since this is no longer a preference option maybe it should be somewhere else. Or maybe it is. Thincat ( talk) 12:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the smart place for this or not, but with regard to Preferences > Gadgets > Strike out usernames that have been blocked is there any way to strike out IPs that are part of rangeblocks? Or maybe dotted strikes for rangeblocks with partial site blocks? Thanks! Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 01:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I was looking at pages in all namespaces on this wiki with over 200 byte long titles when I found multiple pages which are archive subpages which are over 20 levels deep. One example is Talk:Clan Campbell/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1/Archives/2018 1, which ClueBot created. See quarry:query/4320. User:Cobi is the botmaster. What happened here?-- Snaevar ( talk) 21:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
== ==
in the lead
[35] before {{
User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}}
which should be in the lead. Is it or isn't it in the lead afterwards? ClueBot III couldn't make up its mind. It's only a valid archive request if it's in the lead and ClueBot III apparently thought it was because it archived the page. It should only archive non-lead sections but it archived the "section" including the archive request.
[36] In the next run it saw the archived archive request and thought it was a request to archive the archive so it dutyfully continued doing so recursively until it hit the 255-byte limit on page names.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 22:24, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I've found some additional messed-up pages; should these be MfD'd?
jp× g 22:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
Talkarchive}}
or similar, then the fake archive can be tagged with {{
db-error}}
(there are not many valid uses for
WP:CSD#G6, but this is one of them). --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 23:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}}
was put in the wrong place - in a section of the talk page, instead of before the first heading of that page. If re-archiving like this is not stopped when detected, it will continue until the software limitations (which I believe are a limit of 255 characters after the "User talk:" part) cause the process to bomb out. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 20:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Can I disable 2FA with scratch codes? ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA talk 12:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
is there any way on Wiki, Chrome (mobile), or Android phone, to view what a mobile article page looks like in various custom screen sizes ? Gfigs ( talk) 08:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Is there a way to disable that obnoxious [reply] button, preferably one that doesn't require logging in? I've been using the preview mode workaround but it's really getting old. 78.28.44.204 ( talk) 12:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
#reply-link-wrapper {display: none;}
in the css should do the job. Without login you would need to do that in your browser, logged in you can use the custom css page.
mfb (
talk) 13:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
.dt-init-replylink-buttons {display: none !important;}
. The class reply-link-wrapper
is used by
User:Enterprisey/reply-link which is loaded in
User:Mfb/monobook.js. It's not targeted with #reply-link-wrapper
but with .reply-link-wrapper {display: none;}
.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 14:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to report that an article is heavily vandalized. Please help to restore its initial form. It is: The Three Fools. Thanks in advance for the help!-- MrPanyGoff ( talk) 20:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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17:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
OK, in full — Templates (and their module children) are not strictly deterministic as they can output non-deterministic data (such as the time), but the evaluation is isolated and module code cannot write to anything outside of the evaluation of the current template. i.e. A template/module can only output HTML/wikitext and cannot alter any existing wikitext, cannot write to Wikidata, cannot write to any database anywhere and cannot alter any "global" or system variables. This means that a template/module cannot "pass" any information to another template/module other than the children being expanded within their own expansion. That right? — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 19:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
So, while investigating how to trim the banner spam, I noticed on mobile a blank section between two project notices (Lebanon and Organizations)
Switched over to desktop mode and found the page renders correctly with "Military History" being listed between the two.
A look at the wiki markup doesn't show any obvious reason this project wouldn't render on mobile. Though as I cut and paste I notice the importance field is missing.
{{WikiProject Lebanon|class=GA|importance=High}} {{WikiProject Military history|class=GA|Middle-Eastern=y|Post-Cold-War=y}} {{WikiProject Organizations|class=GA|importance=High}}
Slywriter ( talk) 22:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
In User:Redrose64/monobook.css I have the rule
/* monospace font for input boxes */
textarea.oo-ui-inputWidget-input {
font-family: monospace;
font-size: 13.3333px;
}
and this works for most multi-line text input boxes, such as the one that I used to type this in. But it's ignored in the large text input box at Special:EmailUser/Oversight (or any other recipient name), where I'm getting a PS font. How might I get a monospace font there also? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
/* monospace font for input boxes */
textarea.oo-ui-inputWidget-input,
.oo-ui-textInputWidget .oo-ui-inputWidget-input
{
font-family: monospace;
font-size: 13.3333px;
}
/* monospace font for input boxes */
textarea.oo-ui-inputWidget-input,
#mw-input-wpText .oo-ui-inputWidget-input {
font-family: monospace;
font-size: 13.3333px;
}
font-family: inherit;
for .oo-ui-textInputWidget .oo-ui-inputWidget-input
, which will have precedence over your rule. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 23:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)If I go to a page with the CSS content model, highlight two or more lines, copy to clipboard and paste those elsewhere, there are two linefeeds (U+000A) after each line instead of one, the result being a blank line between consecutive "real" lines. This appears to be a recent change: how may I restore the old behaviour? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:51, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Typically I log in direct to my watchlist, then click through to any interesting-looking pages. Recently, when I begin to say edit an article, I sometimes find that I am no longer logged in and my edit is recorded under my IP address. This has begun to happen quite often. Is it a known issue, and if so is it more likely to be a server or browser bug? — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 16:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
I keep getting this type of message popping up, "You are importing User:Lupin/popups.js into common.js" and to remove it as it's unmaintained. I am not sure why I started getting it today, and how to get rid of it. Any help? Govvy ( talk) 12:27, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I just made a post on a user talk page, and somehow this was added to my watchlist for only 28 days. I did not select 28 days, I always leave it at the default permanently. What is occurring? DuncanHill ( talk) 17:55, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm seeing drop-down menus (More, TW, etc) getting stuck open. Any idea what's going on? -- RoySmith (talk) 18:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi, this might have been answered before, but I cant find it.
Whenever I visit an XfD page, I get a popup orange box in the top right hand corner of my screen saying "XFDcloser is now a gadget! Please upgrade to the gadget version." The thing is, I *have* upgraded to the gadget version. The box goes away if I click on it, but it's still slightly annoying. Can I stop it from appearing? (Firefox 85.0, Win10) Black Kite (talk) 21:51, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
importScript('User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js');
. By the way, if you follow the link "
upgrade to the gadget version", it should tell you to do this. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 22:15, 9 February 2021 (UTC)It was seen here that I will edit something with addition with multiple columns in one row. There were 50 states plus DC, and its 5 territories of the U.S., but how does it work to equal the number in the totals? (Note that it also takes >8 seconds to load this template page and also errors/problems while loading the table's visual editor, since it was repeated and doesn't work).
Also, how to subtract three columns, to equal something in one row (for example,in the same page table, it was total confirmed cases - deaths - recoveries = active cases)? Evan0512 ( talk) 03:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
I was inspecting the output produced by a module (not relevant here, but see "UNIQ--nowiki" at permalink if wanted). That output included strip markers from nowiki tags resulting from the module expanding color templates for political parties. For example:
<nowiki>#DDDDDD</nowiki>
<nowiki />#D50000
Why is the nowiki used? If someone puts {{Independent politician/meta/color}} on a page in normal wikitext, the nowiki stops #
from being interpreted as a numbered list item. However it looks like these templates are being used in wikitext or HTML to generate a table. The resulting HTML gives a table cell like the following:
<td style="background-color:{{align|left|{{spaces|10|em}}}}"></td>
which is transformed to
<td style="background-color:#DDDDDD"></td>
Are those nowiki really desirable? Johnuniq ( talk) 04:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Hey all, looking at this request from Yashthepunisher, they appear to have moved an article into Talk space, and yet the talk page has gone missing. Anyone have any ideas for where it could have gone and how to restore the pages to their original locations where they can be safely moved? Much appreciated. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 04:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Wikimedia is applying as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2021 and Outreachy Round 22. We're currently gathering project ideas for the application.
If you have ideas for projects, share them here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270429
-- The Wikimedia GSoC & Outreachy Organization Administrators
-- qedk ( t 愛 c) 15:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi. Why is this function so intermittent? I added it via the gadgets page in my preferences, and it works from time to time. But quite a lot of the time, clicking the button just sends it off spinning and doesn't do anything. Clicking cancel gives the "Error: Citations request failed". I'm using the latest version of Firefox. Anyone else having the same issues? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
When creating an article, is there any way to suppress or collapse or otherwise hide the box that says, "Before creating an article, please read Wikipedia:Your first article. We recommend that new editors ..." etc.? If there isn't, could a way to suppress that box be added to Preferences? Abductive ( reasoning) 16:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
.mw-newarticletext {display: none}
In IBM System/370#Architecture details I have a table with several long sections. There is a heading row showing bit positions, and I want cells in subsequent rows to align with those headings, so I don't want to put those sections in nested tables. I would like to make each of Control Registers and General Registers separately collapsible. Is there a way to do that? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul ( talk) 22:55, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
I cannot see the useful "reverted" tag in some contributions that were reverted. Examples of mw-reverted are in recent changes but what about these:
Am I missing something or is this hopefully a temporary glitch? Johnuniq ( talk) 03:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC))
The mw-reverted change tag is applied shortly after the revert is made...-- RoySmith (talk) 03:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I have come across both versions of messages attempting to upload files on other wikis. The first one says “Permission error” and then says “The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Administrators.” See wikt:Special:Upload. The first one isn’t quite hard to understand. However, the second title says “Uploads disabled.” Then it says “Local file uploads are disabled. Please upload to Wikimedia Commons.” See d:Special:Upload. I have a question about the second message: Does the second message mean that not even administrators can upload images on that wiki? If so, then who can upload? I always thought that administrators could do “everything” on the wiki; by everything I don’t mean literally everything, but something like uploading images should be available to sysops or at least someone on every wiki. 54nd60x ( talk) 04:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
$wgEnableUploads
is set to false
in MediaWiki. Wikidata doesn't need any locally hosted files, so it's disabled there. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 05:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Is there any way to turn off the endless stream of Wikidata notices? It's rendered my "inbox" useless. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 12:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
How I can see new articles from Category:Bilateral relations by country and its subcategorieres? Eurohunter ( talk) 16:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Why default user sandbox isn't capitalised as any other namespace? So we should have User:Example/Sandbox instead User:Example/sandbox. Eurohunter ( talk) 18:01, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Just noticed that Category:Astronomy templates is not hidden at Solar radio emission and is displayed alongside encyclopedic categories (more fresh eyes than mine are needed). Btw, could we run a bot that will detect all unhidden maintenance categories and hide them? Brandmeister talk 20:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
when it should have been inside, ideally placed in the documentation page (see
WP:CAT#T).
Category:Astronomy templates is not a maintenance category, and there should be no reason to hide it - otherwise it wouldn't be shown at
Template:The Sun, where its display is highly appropriate. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 14:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)I had an interesting thing happen to me this evening. My main machine was down, so I dug out an old laptop and tried to use that. Trying to log in to wikipedia, I got, "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form. You may receive this message if you are blocking cookies".
To make a long story short, if you ever get that, take a look at what version browser you're running. If it's something ancient, try updating your browser :-)— Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time it's enemy action.Ian Fleming, Goldfinger. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I know this is incredibly minor but it's bugging me. Take a look at Arithmetic mean, in the example as part of the definition. The first, fourth and 7th plus (+) signs not properly formed. my initial thought was that it was an artifact of my monitor or some temporary rendition problem, I believe it persists, and I can reproduce it in other browsers.
I created:
Note that the problem does not exist an example 2 but does an example 1 and example 3.
I think that suggests that it has something to do with the header, But I can't think why that would be.-- S Philbrick (Talk) 16:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I've been using the Wikipedia mobile app to edit on my Android phone. Ever since enabling 2FA, the app logs me out every few days, which is incredibly frustrating as I have to go into authenticatior every time to log back in. Is this a known issue / something I am doing wrong? Elliot321 ( talk | contribs) 03:29, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm trying to get this wikitable format to look more like this div style one. In making a new project page for Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music I was advised to not use divs since they leave a huge white space when the window is decreased and are not optimal on many devices. I figured the best way would to put this in a table format but I'm having trouble finding a way to have it not looked so crammed; is there a way to put space between columns and rows? Best - Aza24 ( talk) 23:04, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
<hr>
. The lower dividers, between rows 2 & 3, use <hr>
. The border version has a small break between cells, but maybe that doesn't disturb you much.role="presentation"
to my sample code, as it's purely for layout. The div sample might be improved by relaxing some of the constraints on it. As it is now, it can't resize either larger or smaller to adapt to various display sizes. —
JohnFromPinckney (
talk) 01:56, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Every browser has the ability to increase and decrease scale. That is a first step to emulate large and small screens, before even going to different software and hardware (e.g. various screen height/width ratios) set-ups. When performing such first step checks you should see that your proposed layout (especially the second) is extremely problematic. For clarity, such checks, when working with <div> tags, are html student 1.0 steps. Note that the MediaWiki software allows to use <div> tags directly, but usually that shouldn't be done: <div> tags are, in wiki environment, commonly operated via templates and other features, without most editors actually ever seeing them. That is because they are tricky, and the template implementations of them at least avoid to make the most common mistakes. So, if you can't find a template to implement a layout feature, it should normally better not be implemented with html code directly, while those that are a bit more experienced in html specifically tried to avoid them (by not including them in a template or some such).So I've interpreted this as I should be using a Wiki Template, not pure HTML and a Wikitable seemed the only possibility...? Aza24 ( talk) 02:15, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Every browser ... set-ups.This is more or less reasonable. The word that we are looking for there is responsive, that is, a page design is responsive when it can change to fit the screen on which it is viewed. (Tangent: In reality the best way to test different resolutions is actually to test different resolutions by increasing or decreasing the width of the browser viewport. Zooming, which I assume is what is meant by increase/decrease scale, is usually secondary to that assessment.)
but usually that shouldn't be doneIs more or less reasonable when dealing with article space because article space can be changed often, and where simplicity/wikitext is preferred anyway so that it is easy to use there (see WP:MOS#Use simple markup; especially, these reasons are not really the reasons proffered). It becomes unreasonable in a non-reader facing area, which usually do not change and where you might prefer to be fairly creative. Go hogwild!
Label 1 | Data 1 |
---|---|
Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text | |
am doing this comparison from Chrome (mobile). please toggle the width entries, in above code, to see if you can change sizes of parts of the Infobox, in both desktop and mobile views. the only width entry seems to be functioning for me (in desktop view) is "bodystyle" and "titlestyle". I cannot change headerstyle, labelstyle, or datastyle widths in desktop. and none of width entries seem to have any effect in mobile view. please check for errors in above code. is this expected behaviour ? or should it be reported, if so, where (or to whom) ? Gfigs ( talk) 08:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Label 1 | Data 1 |
---|---|
Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text | |
Label 1 | Data 1 |
---|---|
Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text | |
Label 1 | Data 1 |
---|---|
Label 2 | Data 2 |
Label 3 | Data 3 |
Header 4 | |
Label 5 | Data 5: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. |
Below text |
Hi. I have noticed that template links in the form of (eg) {{t|R from colloquial name}} are now displaying a massive redirect banner across the site. Eg:
Looking closer, I think this was probably caused by a recent move of the main template page from Template:TL to Template:Template link.
Not entirely sure how to or whether I have the permissions to fix this personally, so I'm posting here. BlackholeWA ( talk) 22:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
I have recently tried to install MediaWiki skins for use on Wikipedia, however the instructions are super unclear and I end up getting random characters when I try to open the file. Is it because the extensions don't work for Wikimedia? Are those extensions for use on Wikimedia, or can they be used on other sites using MediaWiki? I would like help with installing a skin, thanks. 54nd60x ( talk) 15:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
See my recent comments at Template talk:Native name. Nobody has responded there yet. I haven't been able to get even a vague impression of where these language codes are actually listed. The change itself is relatively minor, but I don't actually know who to even ask about it. Beeblebrox ( talk) 21:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
This search returns about 265 results, most of which appear to be section headers. Yet, when you click on the individual results, the headers look normal. Why are stripmarkers showing up in the search results? And what is a postMath stripmarker?
I discovered this at
Special:Permalink/1006770866. When I remove the {{#invoke:}}
that gives the Lua script error, I get this:
Special:Permalink/1006769917 which is the expected result.
Why is that? Does a Lua script error prevent MediaWiki from 'completing' its job on an errored page?
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 18:41, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
===<math>F_\beta</math>===
and the search result includes "F-score (section ?'"`UNIQ--postMath-00000003-QINU`"'?)". Another example is
Encoder (digital) with heading === <math>2^n</math>-to-n encoders ===
and search result "Encoder (digital) (section ?'"`UNIQ--postMath-00000001-QINU`"'?-to-n encoders)". Perhaps the search index is constructed at some middle step during saving a page and the math rendering is incomplete?? How you got that message is another mystery—I don't see any math.
Johnuniq (
talk) 22:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Hi, for some reason, several templates are now showing the http code for |os_grid_reference=
, and it's causing the infoboxes to take up almost the entire page width. I don't know which sub-template is causing this to happen. See:
Template:Infobox UK place/doc/London, or
Template:Gbmapping. Appreciate any help! Thanks,
Funandtrvl (
talk) 00:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Would it be possible to create a template that takes in a date and returns it formatted either mdy, dmy, or YYYY-MM-DD based on whether {{ use mdy dates}}, {{ use dmy dates}}, or neither is present? This relates to this thread, and has some other potential applications as well. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 23:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
I cannot get the table syntax to work per the documentation.
{| |+ [caption text] |- ! scope="col" | [column header 1] !! scope="col" | [column header 2] !! scope="col" | [column header 3] |- ! scope="row" | [row header 1] || [normal cell 1,2] || [normal cell 1,3] |}
produces:
[column header 1] | [column header 2] | [column header 3] |
---|---|---|
[row header 1] | [normal cell 1,2] | [normal cell 1,3] |
But instead of the row header being emboldened, the whole row is.
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
{| |+ [caption text] |- ! scope="col" | [column header 1] ! scope="col" | [column header 2] ! scope="col" | [column header 3] |- ! scope="row" | [row header 1] | [normal cell 1,2] || [normal cell 1,3] |}
[column header 1] | [column header 2] | [column header 3] |
---|---|---|
[row header 1] | [normal cell 1,2] | [normal cell 1,3] |
!
) or data (pipe, |
). All of the cells in that source line are then marked up the same way as the first. If the source line begins with a header cell, double exclamation marks and double pipes may then be used indiscriminately in that line without affecting the cell type - all will be header cells; but if the source line begins with a data cell, only double pipes may be used for subsequent cells - exclamation marks (single or double) are treated as plain text. Hence, to have different cell types in the same table row, you need to use at least one line for each type. This has been the case for several years. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 13:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)When I am on my user contributions page and hover over the "hist" link for an article, the times that appear in the window that pops up are one hour earlier than the (correct) times that appear when I click on the the link and display the article's history page. Anyone else see/report this issue? Firefox is my browser FWIW. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 15:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
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There is a recent pattern of strange {{
cite web}}
markup involving the word "fetch" or bollixed parameters. I'd like it to stop. Here are some examples.
Article | Bad markup link | Editor | Bad markup |
---|---|---|---|
Oxford Street, Sydney | edit of 15:13, 29 December 2020 | BugMenn | {{Cite web|last=LaughlinNovember 23|first=Shaya|last2=comments)</span>`; }); });|first2=2017-5:35PMWentworth Courier/* global newscorpau */ fetch then then innerHTML = `${data} comments`; document querySelector innerHTML += ` <span>}|date=2017-11-23|title=No tram for Bondi Rd corridor|url=https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/wentworth-courier/council-votes-to-reject-any-proposals-for-light-rail-long-bondi-rd/news-story/8570d0a66fe1a31e41ec532d1c612768|access-date=2020-12-29|website=dailytelegraph|language=en}}
|
Sarah Henderson | edit of 17:58, 1 February 2021 | MarnetteD | {{Cite web|url=https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/corangamite-mp-sarah-henderson-quiet-on-gay-marriage-debate-in-canberra/news-story/e278a94f7ed86cdf12ebca6abc4f3438|title=Floor walking and plebiscite talking|first1=Alex Sinnottless than 2 min|last1=readAugust 2|first2=2017-2:15PMGeelong Advertiser/* global newscorpau */ fetch then then innerHTML = `${data} comments`; document querySelector innerHTML += ` <span>}|last2=comments)</span>`; }); });|date=2 August 2017|website=adelaidenow}}
|
Mark Robinson (Australian politician) | edit of 02:37, 9 February 2021 | MarnetteD | {{Cite web|url=https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/churchs-almighty-religious-lobby-lords-it-over-state-lnp/news-story/583a8c8ca25aeac44d35d54be090c26b|title=Church lords it over State LNP|first1=2 min|last1=readNovember 7|first2=2010-12:00AMThe Sunday Mail/* global newscorpau */ fetch then then innerHTML = `${data} comments`; document querySelector innerHTML += ` <span>}|last2=comments)</span>`; }); });|date=6 November 2010|website=couriermail}}
|
Flower Hill, New York | edit of 21:58, 18 October 2020 | LINYperson615 | {{Cite web|last=August 6|first=Updated|last2=Pm|first2=2020 3:06|title=See photos of Tropical Storm Isaias' effect on Long Island|url=https://www.newsday.com/long-island/tropical-storm-isaias-li-1.47737460|access-date=2020-10-18|website=Newsday|language=en}}
|
These are just 3 examples I've found and corrected recently. I'd like to get to the bottom of this. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 22:42, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
I added a 4th example that may be part of a different pattern. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 23:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
|website=The New York Times
". Is there such a database, and if so, is there a page for recommending additions to it? Some useful additions would be along the lines of "Facebook entries should use |via=Facebook
" and "YouTube entries should use {{Cite AV media ... |via=YouTube}}
. I say "along the lines of" because there are exceptions to both. —
Anomalocaris (
talk) 00:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
In checking the history of an article which is currently being discussed both at WP:ANI and at AFD, I saw that the page was created in draft space, and was then moved by another editor to article space, and the move is listed in the page history as a minor edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sarah_A._Matthews&diff=prev&oldid=1006628272&diffmode=source
This seems to be sufficiently inconsistent with the concept of a minor edit that it ought not to be allowed. I was about to write that I did not know whether it was labeled as minor by intentional action, by unintentional action, or by lack of action. Then I checked my own contribution history, and I see that when I move a page, either to disambiguate it or to accept a draft, it is labeled as a minor edit. So it appears to be a lack of action. In any case, labeling a page move as a minor edit is wrong and is the Wrong Thing to do. Page moves are often contentious. Can this be changed? Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
If an user has an option checked to mark all changes as minor in their settings then page moves get marked as minor.-- Snaevar ( talk) 02:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
(minoredit)
that we give to all registered users (not IP's) and by community discussion we could remove the ability for it to be used from "all users" and restrict it to only admins/bots or other collections of users (e.g. rollbackers maybe). Feel free to work up a proposal if you want to pursue that. —
xaosflux
Talk 20:16, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
enwiki specific configuration, which is why I've pointed interested editors to the discussion at the ticket. If it was an enwiki specific configuration we could come up with a community consensus to update our specific option - but there is no such option to alter this by project today. — xaosflux Talk 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Is there any way to have edit description buttons? Eurohunter ( talk) 13:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi! I hope this isn't too dumb a question: where do we set our temporary watching preferences? I've looked in the Watchlist tab of my user preferences, and looked at Help:Watchlist, but I'm no wiser. The system seems to be choosing for me that certain pages should be watched for a while only, and I'd like it to stop. I do not want to have to visit each of those pages to reset the watchlist expiry. Advice, anyone? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:53, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
how should you interpret this ? Help:Download_as_PDF#Issues
1.PDFs are rendered in a single full-width column; this cannot be changed.
since PDF Page Sizes A0-A3, for articles with Infoboxes, seem to have at least two columns ? Gfigs ( talk) 09:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
this is for printing a PDF article on A0 size paper, that is 84cm x 119cm.. Gfigs ( talk) 03:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I don’t understand what this is about. “Some things do some thing” is a terrible problem description. Please give exact links to pages, steps u are taking, result expected and result given (where possible with a screenshot) if u want ppl to help u along. — TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 19:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I've been editing Tizard Bank which has a citation to the Sailing Directions for the South China Sea. This used the enroute template with parameters 161|2017|13. The citation displayed correctly, but when following the link to the pdf I got a 404 not found error. This also happens with other parameter combinations and with the example given in the template article. I've used another form of citation as a temporary fix, but it would be convenient to have this working. Kognos ( talk) 22:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
Cite enroute|161|2017|13}}
, and it returned
[1], rather than
https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/SDEnroute, which is the link you want?References
{{u| Sdkb}} talk 23:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
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I just updated the pre-release date on Sumatra PDF. Before I edited the page, the stable release date was listed as "3.2 / 15 March 2020; 10 months ago". After I edited the pre-release date, it turned into "3.2 / 15 March 2020; 11 months ago". Since the 15th was yesterday, why wasn't it "11 months ago" already? 93.136.144.94 ( talk) 14:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
{{
Birth date and age}}
(614,000 mainspace transclusions), e.g. {{
birth date and age|1963|2|17}}
in
Michael Jordan where it currently produces <span style="display:none"> (<span class="bday">1963-02-17</span>) </span>February 17, 1963<span class="noprint ForceAgeToShow"> (age 57)</span>
. That is standardized and specific enough to allow JavaScript manipulation without random unwanted changes. Somebody (not me) could make a userscript for this and some other templates like {{
Start date and age}} (86,000 mainspace transclusions). I don't think it should be default.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 20:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Hello, I have a question regarding one of the seven skins installed on Wikipedia. Obviously, the six of the seven are Vector, MinervaNeue, Modern, MonoBook, Timeless, and Cologne Blue. The last skin is a bit confusing to me. I can arguably say that the last is not a skin because it does not appear on Special:Version on any wiki, and mw:Special:Search/Skin:ApiOutput returns zero results. However, I can also say that it is a skin in that its appearance does not appear to duplicate any existing skin. ApiOutput appears to be a skin for not just Wikimedia, but for other wiki farms like Fandom. For example: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=apioutput Is this because this skin is a special case, or is this not even a skin at all? 54nd60x ( talk) 12:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I noticed Cebu was in Category:Pages with bad rounding precision, and when viewing it, much of the article was filled with red warning messages that said something like "time to run script exceeded". This article pulls a lot of information from WD. This was what I saw when viewing the last saved version of the article ( this one). That version of the article, and subsequent ones, now appear normal to me, so there is nothing to show. But there were dozens of timeout messages displayed. I'm guessing this has something to do with server response time and this article is reaching some limit and times-out. MB 02:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Lua time usage: 8.909/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 41585746/52428800 bytes ... Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 12844.075 1 -total 65.46% 8408.099 55 Template:PH_town_table 62.71% 8054.449 53 Template:PH_town_table/mid 45.12% 5795.319 337 Template:PH_wikidata 25.83% 3317.306 270 Template:Rnd 19.81% 2544.300 159 Template:Wd
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This will likely be the last update sent to this list.
Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 19:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I'm hoping someone might be able to provide me with an answer about user account renames. In my work as an admin, and even as an editor, I've looked at user logs and frequently I find log entries about user renames missing. I'd say, 50% of the time, there is no information about a rename even when I know the previous name of the account I'm looking at or the editor is open about the fact that they've been renamed. I look in the logs under Global rename log (where I have never found any relevant information) and User rename log (which sometimes has information) but frequently, there is no information present at all about this change. This can be useful information as an admin, especially if you have dealt with an account before under a previous name. When you are looking at an editor's behavior, it's useful to know if you have already interacted with them before under a different username.
Aren't all renames logged or somehow noted on the user's account? Is there some step global renamers need to take so that the change is in the editor's user logs? Why would it be missing and could it start always being noted in the user logs? Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 21:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
I want to do a SQL query for users whose first edit was a long time (say, more than a year) after their account was registered. Any suggestions on query strategy which isn't absurdly inefficient? -- RoySmith (talk) 16:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
This might not be a technical question but I was wondering how to update this list. The last time it was updated was nearly two years ago by an IP editor, not a bot.
Any idea where to find a list of nonexistent articles with the most links to their blank pages? Liz Read! Talk! 20:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
It was pointed out to me earlier that on mobile Discord, surrounding links with less than/greater than symbols (which disables the link preview) causes the greater-than symbol to be appended to the end of the link (so for example, instead of a link to
/info/en/?search=Main_Page, you'd get a link to
/info/en/?search=Main_Page%3E). This can be detected relatively simply, and a "Did you mean" suggestion displayed, via
MediaWiki:Title-invalid-characters (which displays the body of the "Bad title" message), since the second parameter ($2
) is the title the reader attempted to access (in the same style as is already done on
MediaWiki:Noarticletext, for example if the accessed title is missing a closing parenthesis). As an example, see
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Title-invalid-characters?action=edit and
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Dark_Magician%3E. I thought about
just adding this, but decided that would probably be too bold, and that it would be a better idea to ask here first (which would also allow others more clever than me to suggest potential better ways to go about this). 「
ディノ奴
千?!」
☎ Dinoguy1000 03:14, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Example_(musician)
in plain text and wants to make a link then it's a choice whether to guess the ending )
is part of the url or part of the surrounding text. Smart software could look for a matching (
to make the guess but wrong guesses are not bugs and no software will always guess correctly. If
Discord (software) has a feature to write <...>
around a url like </info/en/?search=Main_Page>
and the same software then treats >
as part of the url then it certainly sounds like a bug which may be fixed. Is this the actual situation, or does the problem arise if somebody copies </info/en/?search=Main_Page>
to somewhere else without removing >
?
PrimeHunter (
talk) 12:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)<url>
is a typical way of writing URLs in plain-text emails and someone could copy the trailing bracket by mistake), and there are no downsides that I can think of at all? —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 18:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
#explode
so it must be coded differently. But how far should we go in trying to guess errors? Some users mix up external and wikilink syntax and write stuff like [/info/en/?search=Main_Page|Main Page]
which gives
Page. Should the message check if you get an existing page by both dropping a pipe and everything after it?
PrimeHunter (
talk) 21:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
{{#ifexists:$3|{{Did you mean box|1=$3}}}}
. —
The Earwig ⟨
talk⟩ 23:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)Hi all, I wonder if someone could kindly explain why I can't see a Check mark? Instead, I get a box with four tiny letters inside. I imagine it's something to do with installed character sets. I am using FF 47 on XP SP3 (yes, I know it's ancient and insecure). While I'm here, what might I need to do in order to see Japanese, Chinese, Arabic characters etc.? I have an XP SP3 install CD. Cheers, > MinorProphet ( talk) 21:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
the 15th of January 2001 is widely recognized as the Wikipedia birthdate. What about the French Wikipedia's birthdate ?
On the 11th of May 2001, posted on the Wikipedia mailing list, a
message advertised the creation of french.wikipedia.com. But in the introduction of the article
French Wikipedia, 23 March 2001 is mentioned as the starting date of the french edition of Wikipedia (until the
20th of July 2006, the introduction displayed August 2001 as the birthdate. On the
28th of January 2019, the 23 March 2001 date appeared with a
citation (24th of September 2010) from
ZDNet France). The article's
french version does mention the same date, but with a "citation needed" warning.
The
oldest version of the french home page is available on Internet Archive (IA) and dates back to the 19 of may 2001. Unfortunately, the archive only shows the 4th revision. On fr.wikipedia.org, the
oldest revision of the home page dates back to the 11th of October 2002.
I've wondered whether frWiki could have been mistaken for the french version of
Nupedia.
According to IA, a Nupedia French Language Translation Project was open since at least the 9 April 2001. A
thread of messages (IA archive) from Francais-L mailing list, hosted on www.nupedia.com, shows however that the french Nupedia was not online before the 1st of April 2001 (see
messages' content on IA).
On Wikipedia-l mailing list, the 16th of March 2001,
Jimmy Wales wrote:
"I want to set up some alternative language wikipedias. French and German would be good [...] I intend to setup the following domain names and wikis: french.wikipedia.com, francais.wikipedia.com (both pointing to the same thing)".
On the 16th of April 2001, on the Francais-L mailing list,
Larry Sanger posted the
following message (IA archive):
"Another thing to consider is to encourage Jimmy Wales [...] to create a French Wikipedia, under the title http://fr.wikipedia.com. I've already asked him to do this for all the foreign languages we're translating into on Nupedia, but I think Jimmy is busy these days--so if you encourage him, he'll create it soon, I am guessing. (If you were to tell him that you have an article, in French, that you want to add, that would probably persuade him.)"
This confirms that fr.wikipedia.com was not available before April 2001.
On fr.wikipedia.org, the first revision of the known oldest article, Paul Héroult, dates back to the 4th of August 2001. On IA, a 19th of May 2001 version is available. Some revisions are apparently missing on fr.wikipedia.org...
The fr.wikipedia.com to fr.wikipedia.org change took place on the 2nd of November 2002.
Questions: what is the accurate French Wikipedia's birthdate ? Does a reliable source exist about it ? Could relevant Wikipedia revisions be retrieved ?
Note: this message may not be considered a technical issue, so, please, feel free to move it into a Village pump section you think is more appropriate.
-- ContributorQ ( talk) 18:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
{{NUMBEROF|fr|birthdate}}
, which could be added to a new column in
List of Wikipedias and many other places ({{
NUMBEROF}}
has been exported to 70+ wiki langs). The date table should be open to change and discussion, I suspect Commons Tabular is better than Wikidata for this purpose, possibly a page on meta.wikimedia.org. Wherever easily machine readable and commonly available. --
Green
C 19:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)@ ContributorQ: Double-pinging you because I think I've struck gold here! This directory of database dumps contains a file called wiki-fr.tar.gz. Inside that gz archive under the "/wiki-fr/lib-http/db/wiki" directory, the first line says "990174692³3HomePage³3*³30³3217.14.192.xxx³30³3id³2111". 990174692 is a Unix timestamp and is equivalent to 18 May 2001, 08:31:32 (UTC/GMT). The line also indicates that the edit was made by the IP address 217.14.192.xxx (the last octet of IP addresses was always obscured by UseModWiki). The corresponding entry in the difflog file does indeed sound like it could be the French Wikipedia's very first homepage edit. I will place the original text at fr:Utilisateur:Graham87/HomePage, for want of a better location, because (a) it relates to the French Wikipedia and (b) I don't know how to format it within this message. Frwiki editors can do whatever they like with my subpage.
@ Graham87: Excellent! Thank you very much for your time and the job done. It helps a lot. With the informations you provided, I could retrace a more precise sequence of events.
In the
March 2001 Wikipedia-l archive there is no message announcing that a french version of Wikipedia has been created. On the 16th of March 2001,
Jimmy Wales posted his wish to create one, a Catalan wikipedia and a German Wikipedia. A few minutes later, he also announced the
online availability of deutsche.wikipedia.com. A
message by
JimboWales, on Wikipedia ("Multilingual coordination" meta page), confirms that:
"I have set up Catalan and Deutsch (or Deutsche, that's still up in the air!), and I anxiously expect there to be some problems or complaints as people start to use them[...]
I think that we should have French and Spanish next, but I don't know how to write 'French' and 'Spanish' correctly. If someone will tell me, I will set them up."
On the 19th of March 2001, JimboWales announced the
creation of nihongo.wikipedia.com ("Multilingual coordination" meta page). The day after, a
confirmation of the online availabality of catalan.wikipedia.com, deutsche.wikipedia.com and nihongo.wikipedia.com has been published.
On the 11th of May 2001, on Wikipedia-l, Jason Richey
announced the creation of the french.wikipedia.com subdomain and eight other new wikis or subdomains (xx.wikipedia.com, xx = chinese, esperanto, hebrew, italian, japanese, portuguese, spanish or russian).
On the 13th of May 2001,
someone asked for a french version ("Multilingual coordination" meta page).
On the 16th of April 2001, on the Francais-L mailing list, hosted on www.nupedia.com,
Larry Sanger posted the
following message (IA archive):
"Another thing to consider is to encourage Jimmy Wales [...] to create a French Wikipedia, under the title http://fr.wikipedia.com. I've already asked him to do this for all the foreign languages we're translating into on Nupedia, but I think Jimmy is busy these days--so if you encourage him, he'll create it soon, I am guessing. (If you were to tell him that you have an article, in French, that you want to add, that would probably persuade him.)"
On the 18th of May 2001, in a
reply to a
request made on the 15th of May 2001 by Jimmy Wales, Jason Richey implicitly announced, on Wikipedia-l, the creation of the alias fr.wikipedia.com which was
confirmed by Larry Sanger, the same day ("Multilingual coordination" meta page). Three days later, on the "Multilingual coordination" meta page,
JasonR announced the
creation of sv.wikipedia.com.
The table below shows data extracted from the frWiki dump (wiki-fr.tar.gz). The timestamps and other data are infos retrieved from revisions logged in the "recent changes" file (rclog) and "diff log" file (diff_log).
Revision # | Timestamp | Date | Page | Content |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 990174692 | 2001-05-18 8:31:32 | Home page | This is the home of the new French Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate en francais, and start writing! |
4 | 990259515 | 2001-05-19 8:05:15 | Home page (see record on IA) | This is the home of the new French Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate en francais, and start writing! Please see our instructions (sorry, in English) on how to edit a page. (Perhaps these could be translated... Paul (Louis-Toussaint) Héroult |
1 | 990259529 | 2001-05-19 8:05:29 | Paul Heroult (see history page on IA) | [...] |
5 | 991380665 | 2001-06-01 7:31:05 | Home page | Cette page est la racine de Wikipedia en Français, que vous êtes invités à faire grandir ... Please see our instructions (sorry, in English) on how to edit a page. (Perhaps these could be translated... Voir our instructions (sorry, in English) pour le mode d'emploi : comment éditer une page. A suivre ... BernardVatant |
1 | 991380815 | 2001-06-01 7:33:35 | BernardVatant (see on frWiki) | Page contact pour Bernard Vatant Très intéressé par ce projet collaboratif. J'espère pouvoir y consacrer un peu de temps. Mes passions : l'Astronomie et le partage des connaissances. Pour en savoir plus : http://www.universimmedia.com Me contacter : bernard@[...] |
All collected infos are consistent with the May 2001 birthdate (11th, or 18th); none does tally with the 23 March 2001.
The tables below show data extracted from some pther wikis dumps. The timestamps and other data are infos retrieved from the first revision logged in the "recent changes" file (rclog) and "diff log" file (diff_log).
Timestamp | Date | Home page's content (www.wikipedia.com) |
---|---|---|
979586833 | 2001-01-15 19:27:13 | This is the new WikiPedia! |
Wiki | Timestamp | Date | Home page's content |
---|---|---|---|
de | 984703365 | 2001-03-16 00:42:45 | This is the new German language wikipedia. I obviously need to translate all of the error messages, page text, etc Advice solicited! Just write here on the homepage for a couple of days, and then we'll get started next week. I do not speak German. Larry Sanger speaks some. So only English speaking people (who also speak German) are likely to be able to effectively communicate with me. |
ca | 984776841 | 2001-03-16 21:07:21 (see history page on IA) | This is for the Catalan language wiki project. |
ja | 985041045 | 2001-03-19 22:30:45 | irrashaimase! kore wa nihongo no wikipedia desu. kakite kudasai. |
eo | 990174584 | 2001-05-18 8:29:44 | This is the home of the new Esperanto Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate in Esperanto, and get to work! |
fr | 990174692 | 2001-05-18 8:31:32 | This is the home of the new French Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate en francais, and start writing! |
it | 990174783 | 2001-05-18 8:33:03 | This is the home of the new Italian Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate in Italian, and start writing! |
pt | 990175390 | 2001-05-18 8:43:10 | This is the home of the new Portuguese Wikipedia. Please replace this text with something appropriate in Portugues, and start writing! Please see our instructions (sorry, in English) on how to edit a page. (Perhaps these could be translated...) |
sv | 990611216 | 2001-05-23 9:46:56 | Välkomna till Svenska Wikipedia! Denna sidan är startsidan (HomePage) för den svenska wikipedian. Målet med Wikipedia är att skapa ett uppslagsverk med uppslagsord av alla möjliga typer där allt innehåll är fritt att använda enligt GNU Free Documentation License.[...] |
nl | 992991055 | 2001-06-19 22:50:55 | Welkom bij de nieuwe (19/06/2001) Nederlandstalige Wikipedia. Wikipedia is een gemeenschapsproject met het doel vanaf nul een complete encyclopdie te creëren. De Engelstalige versie is in januari 2001 opgestart en bevat al meer dan 9000 pagina's. We zouden graag voor de Nederlandstalige pagina's een vergelijkbaar succes zien[...] |
pl | 1001517728 | 2001-09-26 15:22:08 | = Polskia Edycjia Wikipedii = 26 Wrzesnia 2001 postanowilismy wystartowac polska edycje Wikipedii Zapraszamy wszystkich do tworzenia nowych artykulów i tlumaczen tekstow z wikipedii. |
@ GreenC: FYI.
PS: It would be nice to import in each current xxWiki database the very first revision of the homepage and the first article.
-- ContributorQ ( talk) 17:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
On https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:CiteThisPage&page=Julius_Lekakeny_Sunkuli&id=856705571, we have
MLA Style Manual
Shouldn't the second one be Wikimedia Foundation
Also on /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Citing_Wikipedia, we have
There's a contradiction here. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 17:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Is there any way to mark articles I'm watching from templates or categories? Eurohunter ( talk) 18:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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Sometimes I come across a notable topic that we don't have an article for, and I want to quickly create a stub and seed it with some references, but it's a topic that I don't have experience creating articles about, so I don't know how these articles are "supposed" to look or what they're "supposed" to have.
I'm dreaming of a tool that will let me quickly create a stub by having templates for various topics, where I can choose the topic, fill out some basic information (like infobox parameters and a paragraph of prose) and references, and it will create the page with the correct infobox, navboxes, categories, create the talk page with the right WikiProject tags, etc. Basically, select the article topic (e.g. athlete, scientist, album, book, car, town, school, etc.), fill out a form, click, and it makes a stub with all the right parts. Editors could create new templates for new topics, or custom/personalized/alternate templates, kind of like custom warnings in Twinkle.
Does anything like this exist? Levivich harass/ hound 08:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Levivich Are you looking for something like Template:Biography? Slywriter ( talk) 17:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Would somebody be able to pull me a dump from sometime in the week of February 7 or 14, and throw me a list of the contents of Category:Canadian films as of that date in my sandbox at User:Bearcat/Temp? The category currently has 4,627 articles in it, but I know for a fact (I check it on a regular basis, what with that being my primary editing domain these days) that there were 4,655 just a couple of days ago — and since this is after I added three new films today, that means 31 films have disappeared from the category within the past day or two. One or two, I could handwave away as either an article getting deleted or a technical counting error, but not 31, so I need to figure out what's been disappearing and why. Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 01:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
How do I force two consecutive {{ rquote}} templates to break onto new lines? Such as the two quotes here. ➧ datumizer ☎ 10:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
A few editors including myself have been notified of multiple unsuccessful attempts to login using the user's account and a wrong password. It appears that there is someone whom I will call a whacker, a poor imitation of a hacker, trying to log in using various user accounts. I have checked my Contribution History, and all of the edits are edits that I made. I have no reason to think that any of the login attempts succeeded. I have no intention of changing my password, because it isn't compromised, and is working as it should. So I have a two-part question. First, does anyone have a guess as to what the whacker is doing or trying to do? It probably doesn't matter.
Second, I have a technical question. When does the system lock out an IP address? Is there a rule so that after 3 or 5 unsuccessful attempts to log in from an IP address, the device is locked for a reasonable length of time, such as an hour? It isn't so much a matter of protecting the system, since strong passwords appear to be a sufficient protection. It is more a matter of maybe discouraging the whacker.
Third, and this is just a wild guess. I wonder whether the whacker is hoping that one of the humans behind the accounts will panic and will change their password to something easily guessed. Don't do that, then. Robert McClenon ( talk) 19:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
See discussion Template talk:WikiProject banner shell#Add class/importance attribute on shell and please advise where else is right forum to discuss. I know it's potentially a major change. Shushugah ( talk) 20:15, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm randomly logged out since few deys (monday?). What is the problem this time? Why this problem keeps coming back from time to time? Like atleast 1-2 periods a year. Eurohunter ( talk) 18:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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