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Hello Ian, I am currently a University student working on making edits to the topic listed above and had a few questions. When viewing the text logs from the previous editors, it seems as if this page hasn't been updated in a long time. I was making edits to the table and was wondering if you thought it would be okay to list just the genus of the animals instead of individually listing each one off due to the large amount of them. Secondly, there is a portion under these tables that include the use of these toxins in recreational use. I was wondering if you thought this was a relevant and needed bit of information for the subject of poisonous amphibians. I believe that this shouldn't be apart of this particular topic, but I would like a second opinion. Thank you so much for the help! Joseph73780 ( talk) 07:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian,
I wanted to follow up since it has been a week since I posted my questions here and I haven't heard from you. My article is due in two days now for class so if we could resolve the couple issues I'm having soon that would be wonderful. Thank you and have a great day.
Chipmonkey9 ( talk) 17:05, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ian,
I am editing, Central Time Zone, and I would like to change the article to "Central Time Zone (UTC-6)." Central Time Zone leaves an amount of ambiguity to the article as a few nations have a central time zone. The addition of UTC-6 specifies the actual zone being searched. Are there stipulations in regard to changing the title of an article? Bubbalicious82 ( talk) 19:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with renaming my sandbox. I'm currently drafting an article in my sandbox for Ron J. MacLaren, but I accidently titled it "Ron J. Maclaren" without capitalizing the L in his last name. How do I fix this?
Thank you!
-- HondainaPot ( talk) 22:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
I am working on the Femicide in Latin America article for a class right now, and have completely moved my contribution onto the existing article. If you could take a look at it and give me feedback I would appreciate it! Stud3nt1947 ( talk) 16:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hello.
I need help with... publishing my work
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Ohunayo (
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Hello.
I need help with being able to edit a template, to create my bibliography. -- BryceKubasta ( talk) 00:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Courtesy link: User:EricY.22/sandbox
Hello Ian,
Hope all is well. I would like to publish my sandbox named "User:EricY.22/sandbox" but unfortunately, Wikipedia is not letting me rename the article. Could you please help me in renaming the article to "The Gee Family in Houston."
Best,
Eric — Preceding unsigned comment added by EricY.22 ( talk • contribs) 07:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
|page=
parameter to your footnotes (or use {{
rp}} after a <ref>.)The page in question was moved from their sandbox to main space by EricY on 30 Nov. ( diff), and moved back to their sandbox on Dec. 1 without leaving a redirect by Mathglot ( diff) for referencing problems. Mathglot ( talk) 01:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
Tonight I came across 5 student projects moved to main space and none of them are main space ready. They still had the user sandbox tags on them! There has been no effort to adapt a student paper to a Wikipedia main space article.
Please tell instructors not to suggest that students move their articles from User space to main space without running them through AFC. I moved these pages to Draft space but I've found students often do not get the hint and if they are moved back, they will be deleted. This happens towards the end of every school term. Liz Read! Talk! 06:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian,
I am @ Erdabravest2001 and am in CHEM 300 at UBC. My partner @ Bird flock and I were wondering if you are able to take a look at the Computational chemistry page and see whether or not it is a "Good Article" by peer review.
Erdabravest2001 ( talk) 09:21, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Algorithm: Investigate the electronic structure (or nuclear structure) (principally the ground state) of many-body systems, in particular atoms, molecules, and the condensed phases.
Hi Ian, my partner Erdabravest2001 and I wanted to know if this image would violate copyright.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CjUnDTFKW7tjz0ltBxoHlDdFlyFsrPS0/view?usp=sharing
We took the format of the image from
https://journals.aps.org/rmp/abstract/10.1103/RevModPhys.92.015003 at figure 5 and reproduced the image for with our own equations. However, we are concerned that doing this would violate copyright. We were wondering if you could give your thoughts on if this is an acceptable reproduction. My partner says that the information and format is common for quantum circuits in general, but would like your thoughts first. Many thanks.
Bird flock (
talk) 05:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with...
getting back into my sandbox. I guess I did not publish it frequently enough, or left the window open for too long, and all of my work is gone and it is now saying that I don't have a user page created for this project and I can't make/find the sandbox for my MRGPRX2 project. Please help me.
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IrisBellweather (
talk) 23:25, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with...publishing my edit, its giving me no stacked found error and i cannot publish what i edited
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CryingEM (
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Hi Ian, I see that you are the WikiEd expert for Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/University of Pennsylvania/Medical missionaries to Community Partners (Fall 2023). I have had issues in the past with the notability of numbers of articles created out of this course. Today I moved to draft Draft:Sarah Goodman which would appear to be the most egregious - the lead makes the claim to notability of an 8 day short term mission trip in 2019. I have left a note on the student's page, but my question is where is the training and/or accountability for the class/instructor if this kind of thing is happening? Thanks Melcous ( talk) 05:04, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
User:Icocci image license-violations and possibly even bad-faith image content. See their talk-page. DMacks ( talk) 08:04, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian, following up on User:DMacks message regarding the figures we uploaded on NMR article. Could you please guide us on how we can fix this issue? Melikajvn ( talk) 01:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian I am a student and I just published my article on Maternity care deserts in the United States and quickly received some feedback. I was wondering if I could ask for help on the advice that I received that my article was too argumentative/personal essay kind of writing.
/info/en/?search=Maternity_care_deserts_in_the_United_States
I wrote on section on solutions and wonder if thats what caused that flag...
any thougths? Kristudent194 ( talk) 14:23, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello @ Ian (Wiki Ed),
I am a student editing the wikipedia page on degloving. I am having an issue with citations in one of my image's captions. For some reason it creates new a new source even though it is the same source I am citing for each sentence in the caption. This is for the CT image in the diagnosis section for Morel-Lavallée lesions
Functional Frog ( talk) 17:03, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
I did a check of User:P!neapp13/Jewish-American organized crime and found much of the content was taken from a 4 chan /pol/ discussion thread. I tried to tag the page but the link was blacklisted. You might check it yourself and consider what should be done. We already have an fully formed article on Jewish-American organized crime so this is really unnecessary draft on a controversial subject. Liz Read! Talk! 07:08, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
hello Ian.. I had a question: for the Commodification article.
Hello, I'm new to editing Wikipedia, and went through WikiEdu training this semester and editing the Commodification article was a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2023 and 15 December 2023.
The question is, does moving sections within the article, Alphabetizing the Examples section, cause the Wikipedia bots to flag sections as plagiarism? No changes, but reorganizing the structure for clarity. If this is the case, please undo any removals. Mitsuo500 ( talk) 17:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Ian. I've removed the last 3 contributions from the Language and gender article by a student at CSU Northridge Gender and culture, mostly for lack of sourcing, but also for adding speculative nonsense like 'communication has existed since the beginning of time'. Hard to understand how they could complete a sourcing and citations module, and come up with this. My working theory, is that some students just don't quite believe we're serious about it, until the hammer comes down; or maybe they breeze through the module without really paying attention? I know I had my bad days in classes, sometimes. Sorry for the o/t musings but I can't help think what causes this, and I don't mean to pick on this particular editor, because it's not a rare phenomenon. Otoh, it's great to see the opposite: some new student coming up with beautifully written, fully filled-out {{ cite journal}} templates with all the trimmings added to their assigned article. Well, I guess that's why they have the bell curve. Mathglot ( talk) 20:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
I was looking at the wikipedia page about ravens, and I came across an Old English version of the page.
I’m curious how Wikipedia knows Old English, or even enough to create such a page? BlueBlurHog ( talk) 00:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
WikiEd left messages for User:Slmnknr, User:Lex_Lhotka, User:Eharting13, User:Raul.rivero006, User:Skylarklocker and User:Ellagiul but none of these are valid student editor accounts. They all changed their usernames so these are nonexistent editors. You might update your records or ones for the courses they are part of. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 19:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
I noticed that you are the Wikipedia Expert for
Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Southeastern Oklahoma State University/COMP II (Spring) and I have serious concerns about one of the articles that a student has taken on for their assignment/project/article. The course page states For one of their primary assignments for the course students will select an under-developed Wikipedia article with instructor guidance.
So...the underdeveoped article one student picked?
Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
Stating the obvious perhaps but this is not a Good Idea. Clearly the article is not underdeveloped - I mean sure it is presently rated C-Class but I think it is more likely B-Class. Also, this article has been one of the most contentious and vandalized and scrutinized articles in all of Wikipedia. Definitely not something for a newly-minted editor to tackle.
I have no official standing with WikiEd but I think it would be prudent for someone from WikiEd to contact the instructor and the student and suggest that some other, shorter, maybe a start-class or stub article or an article with loads of maintenance templates would probably be a much (much) better choice.
Thanks,
Shearonink (
talk) 05:14, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
Not many editors have yet been assigned a topic, but one has been assigned Ram Mandir which requires ECP. Even the post to Talk:Ram Mandir is a violation. Can you advise them? I also just noticed two courses in the GG area - these instructors need to be told about the sanctions, we don't want students having a difficult time here because they are unaware. Doug Weller talk 11:01, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
I just posted this on the talk page of the course: [1]. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 19:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I am working on the Vaginal Bleeding article for my Wiki class. I made edits into a sandbox last week, but have been unable to find them. I thought it was a sandbox specific to the vaginal bleeding page, however I don't see that as an option now. My personal sandbox is empty. I wasn't sure if t here was a way for you to find my contributions from last week at all so that i didn't have to start over.
Thank you!-- Abilli4 ( talk) 18:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I am hoping you can help me change my self assigned article for my Wiki class. I assigned myself an article for my assignment in class and my professor provided feedback saying that the article was too limiting and I should choose a new one. How do I delete the other article and upload the other one that my professor has approved? Deedeeedits ( talk) 19:58, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with... Finding the list of articles that I need to choose from. My professor created a list of articles that I should find on home page, but I cannot find them and I feel lost. Can you help me ?
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Hi Ian! I am one of the students in Prof. Danylevich's Race, Gender, and Medicine class. My group of three (w/ @ Samhivellala and our other member Marie) are deciding whether or not we should start a new page for "internalized ableism" or just add to the section, "Types of Ableism" that mentions it on the "Ableism" page. Do you have any advice on this for us? We are wondering if there are enough instances of internalized ableism being mentioned in other articles (I could only find two) and whether it is just simpler and more helpful to just compile the information we want to write about internalized ableism under the larger "Ableism" page. If you have any pointers, that would be great! Thanks! Gek21 ( talk) 22:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello Ian, hoping for your input at User talk:Jialeijiang about an ESL course. Thanks, Fritzmann ( message me) 14:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
I am using WikiEdu for a class and would like to select and assign tutorials and articles for my students. How can I do that? 212.36.194.12 ( talk) 14:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian! I just copyedited Medial patellofemoral ligament, which I didn't realize was being edited by WikiEd student Cg621 for an assignment. Should I revert myself? I don't want to step on anyone's toes. —asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 15:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
If a "Note: Edits to this page from new or unregistered users are subject to review prior to publication ( help)." appears when I switch to edit mode, will it affect my professor being able to see the changes I make on the article?
JulesJ2024 ( talk) 14:34, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
This editor changed their username several days ago so please leave messages on their new User talk page, instead of this one which needs to remain a Redirect. Many thanks and good luck with Spring Quarter! Liz Read! Talk! 20:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, dropping a note regarding Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Algoma University/Introduction to Community Economic and Social Development II (Winter 2024). A student has selected India, a FA, and has already been asked not to on the talkpage by two others. It is, in any case, ECPed. In general, I would say the course participants have chosen a number of very broad topic articles which seems likely to set them up for disappointment. The one choosing White supremacy may not do well either. Best, CMD ( talk) 10:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
We are seeing some students from this course move their own drafts, or those of their fellow students, into the main space of the project. Some of them actually don't look too bad but there are some issues (gigantic paragraphs, copyright checks, some iffy sources) and I'd like them to be reviewed by someone, like you, an instructor or AFC, before leaping into main space. Thanks for any oversight you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 18:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Please stop Wiki Education, whatever it is. It sets these people up for failure because they do not get the help they need to make good edits.
And since you are an admin (and I am not the first person who told you this 1 2) you know this already so I do not understand why you are involved with Wiki Edu. Make a list of 100 recent edits made by these "student editors" and check what percentage needs to be reverted.
They should not be editing controversial articles or articles containing medical claims and someone experienced should check every single edit made. Polygnotus ( talk) 20:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Make a list of 100 recent edits made by these "student editors" and check what percentage needs to be reverted.
I do not understand why you are involved with Wiki Edu
And since you are an admin
I expect you to be aware of the fact that these student editors are set up for failure because they do not get the help they need to make good edits.
Making good edits isn't hard (plenty of typos to fix) but expecting a student editor to actually improve an article about a controversial topic that has evolved over the years without giving them the guidance required is setting them up for failure.
Why is there no experienced editor that actually sits down with these students to help them?
Why does their work not get checked?
Why do they get assigned articles that they should not be editing without more guidance (e.g. those about controversial topics or those that contain medical claims)?
I didn't have time for 100, but here are 10 recent mainspace edits. I picked from the classes that were most active in the last 2 weeks, and picked the most recent mainspace edit from classes that were active in mainspace
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https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Propaganda_for_Japanese-American_internment&diff=prev&oldid=1217144263 | Replaced a reference to Wikipedia with an RS |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217164175 | Fixed a citation error created by VE |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217119211 | Could be better ("it has been proven" isn't great wording) but it's not something that needs immediate reversion |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Amanda_Jones_(librarian)&diff=prev&oldid=1217080516 | Added a citation where one wasn't before |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217165410 | Fixing their own error |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217241141 | Copyedit |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217119076 | Bad edit that should have been reverted |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217153901 | Looks ok |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217074685 | I don't like the way the article is laid out, but that pre-dated the student's work |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1216972628 | I wouldn't say I'm a fan of this type of a section (tropical fish hobbyist info on Wikipedia is mostly crufty) and I doubt the site is an RS, but it's a fair try for a newbie |
Ian (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello! Could you please tell your students not to publish their school assignments in mainspace? I've reverted their moves numerous times (more than a handful just today) and it is really becoming disruptive. Thank you. CycloneYoris talk! 06:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi! We are students trying to move our article to the main space but are getting a strange error. Our professor is not sure what to do and said we should ask you for help. Can you check out the page and tell us what is going on? Here is the error we are getting.
Link: Pālamanui Community Forest
This template is not to be used in article space.
This is the sandbox page where you will draft your initial Wikipedia contribution.
If you're starting a new article, you can develop it here until it's ready to go live.
If you're working on improvements to an existing article, copy only one section at a time of the article to this sandbox to work on, and be sure to use an edit summary linking to the article you copied from. Do not copy over the entire article. You can find additional instructions here.
Remember to save your work regularly using the "Publish page" button. (It just means 'save'; it will still be in the sandbox.) You can add bold formatting to your additions to differentiate them from existing content.
Leon02356 ( talk) 00:55, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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If I underestimated the amount of good edits caused by Wiki Edu that is awesome; as a pessimist I love being wrong. Perhaps you missed these questions:
(4) Please respond over at Nature therapy, like I asked you before. People do a lot of work, but it doesn't improve the article. (5) Can you please explain to the instructor that this is not a suitable topic for their course (6) and to the student why this is inappropriate for an encyclopedia? (7) Is there a blacklist of topics and article names somewhere? I honestly feel bad reverting 10k bytes from a good faithed editor who will get bitten because their instructor did not give them the help required. Polygnotus ( talk) 05:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC) (8) How do the teachers ensure students aren't simply using ChatGPT or something similar to violate the copyright of the sources? (9) Do the students work from home with no oversight or in a classroom? Polygnotus ( talk) 22:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Turns out they didn't do a lot of work. Bit of digging and I discovered they are introducing blatant copyright violations into Wikipedia, most likely with the help of ChatGPT (or something similar). Assuming good faith failed again. Polygnotus ( talk) 20:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Here you wrote:
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Hey Ian! I posted it wrong as user instead of article. And so now the page comes up as the user page instead of the article. How do I change this? MidnightStorm0819 ( talk) 17:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Hallo Ian, I've been surprised to see a message at the bottom of a talk page Talk:Louse, announcing that it's a student assignment. I'm used to seeing that information at the top of a talk page, which is where I would look for it if I was wondering whether a bunch of edits were from a student editor. I see the documentation of {{ Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} says it goes at the bottom, though if there is any further discussion added to that talk page it will gradually work its way up the page, surely - and possibly become archived if it's just in a standard post as this one is, perhaps incorrectly?
It would seem a lot clearer if the "this is a student assignment" message was in a neat little box in the top matter of the talk page, staying there as a permanent record that it was a student assignment at date x. (Though I don't see these messages mentioned anywhere within Wikipedia:Talk page layout#Lead (bannerspace), where I'd expect to see them.
It also seems slightly surprising that students are being let loose on invited to improve a Good Article - is that normal practice?
Pam
D 20:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
To the extent that we treat Wiki Ed student editors the same way as any other new editor.... What purpose is served by highlighting them?If I find that a new but slightly clueless editor has worked on a page on my watchlist, making a lot of systematic mistakes (all the section headings in Title Case, spaces before the references, person referred to by forename, over-linking of country names etc, that sort of thing), I might spend quite a bit of time cleaning up the article. If I then realise it's been done by a student who is earning their grade by contributing to the encyclopedia, I feel disgruntled: they'll be getting grade credit for my work. If I realise it's a student editor I might change one instance of each mistake and drop a note on their talk page pointing out the problems, maybe linking to the MOS, and suggesting that their instructor apparently failed to teach them this element of how to edit. So I think it is important for us, the general editors, to be made aware when edits are not being done by a volunteer but by someone editing for grade credit: it's a version of paid editing, really, when someone's motivation is not "improve the encyclopedia and have fun" but "do this assignment and get a good grade". Pam D 07:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey Ian! I appreciate your hard work. I wanted to reach out about an editor who made some edits because they were working on a "school project". Per discussion on their talk page a professor has assigned work, but they haven't posted the typical wikied disclaimers. Not sure if there's anything you can do, but wanted to make you aware! Best, glman ( talk) 23:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello Ian,
It looks like you removed the sustainability contribution from the Airbnb Wiki page and did not really explain why. You stated, "I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it is a poor translation." What does that mean? You did not provide any substantive or relevant feedback for me to view, so how would I revise my article? NorthShoreLife ( talk) 18:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
A number of students in the Comparative Management course appear to be posting AI-generated text and/or images in userspace:
Is this part of an assigned class activity? Omphalographer ( talk) 16:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello Ian, I am a student and just had a question about adding my own chart in a sandbox draft of an article. I have the information cited on where I got the information from and just thought a pie chart might add a section in my article. I was wondering if I was able to make my own pie chart on Canva using that information and if that is possible, how I would go about adding that into Wiki commons? Thank you! Bellamrome ( talk) 22:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
We've been dealing a lot with students prematurely moving their course work into the main space with incorrect article titles, sandbox tags on the page, poor referencing, all sorts of problems. Most of the time, these pages have to be returned to User space or moved over to Draft space.
But I noticed some superior work being moved into main space tonight that I think will only require a minimum amount of clean-up from our New Page Patrollers. They are students of Macalester College/Global Change Biology course and I just thought I'd let you know when students successfully manage to master editing and article composition on this project of ours. Thanks to you WikiEd folks and the instructor for the excellent instruction. Here's hoping they decide to stick around and continue contributing here. Liz Read! Talk! 06:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I did a rewrite of the cyberattack article, but it is stuck in an edit request that has not been actioned yet. A student in the ITI 200 Section 91 class, Tjb266, is listed as working on the article. It would be better to address the edit request before they start working on the article, otherwise it will be difficult to merge any changes that are made. Buidhe paid ( talk) 07:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I hope you are okay..I have a draft article on the user page.I have reviewed and made the necessary edit.Couldd you please help move it to the main space. I tried yesterday, it did not work out so well.
Kindly assist.Its part of course work that is needed by tommorow. Also please let me know whether the article is in order. Sharon Ng'ang'a ( talk) 03:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hello Ian, I am currently a University student working on making edits to the topic listed above and had a few questions. When viewing the text logs from the previous editors, it seems as if this page hasn't been updated in a long time. I was making edits to the table and was wondering if you thought it would be okay to list just the genus of the animals instead of individually listing each one off due to the large amount of them. Secondly, there is a portion under these tables that include the use of these toxins in recreational use. I was wondering if you thought this was a relevant and needed bit of information for the subject of poisonous amphibians. I believe that this shouldn't be apart of this particular topic, but I would like a second opinion. Thank you so much for the help! Joseph73780 ( talk) 07:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian,
I wanted to follow up since it has been a week since I posted my questions here and I haven't heard from you. My article is due in two days now for class so if we could resolve the couple issues I'm having soon that would be wonderful. Thank you and have a great day.
Chipmonkey9 ( talk) 17:05, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ian,
I am editing, Central Time Zone, and I would like to change the article to "Central Time Zone (UTC-6)." Central Time Zone leaves an amount of ambiguity to the article as a few nations have a central time zone. The addition of UTC-6 specifies the actual zone being searched. Are there stipulations in regard to changing the title of an article? Bubbalicious82 ( talk) 19:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with renaming my sandbox. I'm currently drafting an article in my sandbox for Ron J. MacLaren, but I accidently titled it "Ron J. Maclaren" without capitalizing the L in his last name. How do I fix this?
Thank you!
-- HondainaPot ( talk) 22:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
I am working on the Femicide in Latin America article for a class right now, and have completely moved my contribution onto the existing article. If you could take a look at it and give me feedback I would appreciate it! Stud3nt1947 ( talk) 16:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hello.
I need help with being able to edit a template, to create my bibliography. -- BryceKubasta ( talk) 00:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Courtesy link: User:EricY.22/sandbox
Hello Ian,
Hope all is well. I would like to publish my sandbox named "User:EricY.22/sandbox" but unfortunately, Wikipedia is not letting me rename the article. Could you please help me in renaming the article to "The Gee Family in Houston."
Best,
Eric — Preceding unsigned comment added by EricY.22 ( talk • contribs) 07:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
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parameter to your footnotes (or use {{
rp}} after a <ref>.)The page in question was moved from their sandbox to main space by EricY on 30 Nov. ( diff), and moved back to their sandbox on Dec. 1 without leaving a redirect by Mathglot ( diff) for referencing problems. Mathglot ( talk) 01:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
Tonight I came across 5 student projects moved to main space and none of them are main space ready. They still had the user sandbox tags on them! There has been no effort to adapt a student paper to a Wikipedia main space article.
Please tell instructors not to suggest that students move their articles from User space to main space without running them through AFC. I moved these pages to Draft space but I've found students often do not get the hint and if they are moved back, they will be deleted. This happens towards the end of every school term. Liz Read! Talk! 06:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian,
I am @ Erdabravest2001 and am in CHEM 300 at UBC. My partner @ Bird flock and I were wondering if you are able to take a look at the Computational chemistry page and see whether or not it is a "Good Article" by peer review.
Erdabravest2001 ( talk) 09:21, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Algorithm: Investigate the electronic structure (or nuclear structure) (principally the ground state) of many-body systems, in particular atoms, molecules, and the condensed phases.
Hi Ian, my partner Erdabravest2001 and I wanted to know if this image would violate copyright.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CjUnDTFKW7tjz0ltBxoHlDdFlyFsrPS0/view?usp=sharing
We took the format of the image from
https://journals.aps.org/rmp/abstract/10.1103/RevModPhys.92.015003 at figure 5 and reproduced the image for with our own equations. However, we are concerned that doing this would violate copyright. We were wondering if you could give your thoughts on if this is an acceptable reproduction. My partner says that the information and format is common for quantum circuits in general, but would like your thoughts first. Many thanks.
Bird flock (
talk) 05:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with...
getting back into my sandbox. I guess I did not publish it frequently enough, or left the window open for too long, and all of my work is gone and it is now saying that I don't have a user page created for this project and I can't make/find the sandbox for my MRGPRX2 project. Please help me.
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IrisBellweather (
talk) 23:25, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with...publishing my edit, its giving me no stacked found error and i cannot publish what i edited
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CryingEM (
talk) 06:06, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I see that you are the WikiEd expert for Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/University of Pennsylvania/Medical missionaries to Community Partners (Fall 2023). I have had issues in the past with the notability of numbers of articles created out of this course. Today I moved to draft Draft:Sarah Goodman which would appear to be the most egregious - the lead makes the claim to notability of an 8 day short term mission trip in 2019. I have left a note on the student's page, but my question is where is the training and/or accountability for the class/instructor if this kind of thing is happening? Thanks Melcous ( talk) 05:04, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
User:Icocci image license-violations and possibly even bad-faith image content. See their talk-page. DMacks ( talk) 08:04, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian, following up on User:DMacks message regarding the figures we uploaded on NMR article. Could you please guide us on how we can fix this issue? Melikajvn ( talk) 01:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ian I am a student and I just published my article on Maternity care deserts in the United States and quickly received some feedback. I was wondering if I could ask for help on the advice that I received that my article was too argumentative/personal essay kind of writing.
/info/en/?search=Maternity_care_deserts_in_the_United_States
I wrote on section on solutions and wonder if thats what caused that flag...
any thougths? Kristudent194 ( talk) 14:23, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello @ Ian (Wiki Ed),
I am a student editing the wikipedia page on degloving. I am having an issue with citations in one of my image's captions. For some reason it creates new a new source even though it is the same source I am citing for each sentence in the caption. This is for the CT image in the diagnosis section for Morel-Lavallée lesions
Functional Frog ( talk) 17:03, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
I did a check of User:P!neapp13/Jewish-American organized crime and found much of the content was taken from a 4 chan /pol/ discussion thread. I tried to tag the page but the link was blacklisted. You might check it yourself and consider what should be done. We already have an fully formed article on Jewish-American organized crime so this is really unnecessary draft on a controversial subject. Liz Read! Talk! 07:08, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
hello Ian.. I had a question: for the Commodification article.
Hello, I'm new to editing Wikipedia, and went through WikiEdu training this semester and editing the Commodification article was a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2023 and 15 December 2023.
The question is, does moving sections within the article, Alphabetizing the Examples section, cause the Wikipedia bots to flag sections as plagiarism? No changes, but reorganizing the structure for clarity. If this is the case, please undo any removals. Mitsuo500 ( talk) 17:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Ian. I've removed the last 3 contributions from the Language and gender article by a student at CSU Northridge Gender and culture, mostly for lack of sourcing, but also for adding speculative nonsense like 'communication has existed since the beginning of time'. Hard to understand how they could complete a sourcing and citations module, and come up with this. My working theory, is that some students just don't quite believe we're serious about it, until the hammer comes down; or maybe they breeze through the module without really paying attention? I know I had my bad days in classes, sometimes. Sorry for the o/t musings but I can't help think what causes this, and I don't mean to pick on this particular editor, because it's not a rare phenomenon. Otoh, it's great to see the opposite: some new student coming up with beautifully written, fully filled-out {{ cite journal}} templates with all the trimmings added to their assigned article. Well, I guess that's why they have the bell curve. Mathglot ( talk) 20:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
I was looking at the wikipedia page about ravens, and I came across an Old English version of the page.
I’m curious how Wikipedia knows Old English, or even enough to create such a page? BlueBlurHog ( talk) 00:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
WikiEd left messages for User:Slmnknr, User:Lex_Lhotka, User:Eharting13, User:Raul.rivero006, User:Skylarklocker and User:Ellagiul but none of these are valid student editor accounts. They all changed their usernames so these are nonexistent editors. You might update your records or ones for the courses they are part of. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 19:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
I noticed that you are the Wikipedia Expert for
Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Southeastern Oklahoma State University/COMP II (Spring) and I have serious concerns about one of the articles that a student has taken on for their assignment/project/article. The course page states For one of their primary assignments for the course students will select an under-developed Wikipedia article with instructor guidance.
So...the underdeveoped article one student picked?
Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
Stating the obvious perhaps but this is not a Good Idea. Clearly the article is not underdeveloped - I mean sure it is presently rated C-Class but I think it is more likely B-Class. Also, this article has been one of the most contentious and vandalized and scrutinized articles in all of Wikipedia. Definitely not something for a newly-minted editor to tackle.
I have no official standing with WikiEd but I think it would be prudent for someone from WikiEd to contact the instructor and the student and suggest that some other, shorter, maybe a start-class or stub article or an article with loads of maintenance templates would probably be a much (much) better choice.
Thanks,
Shearonink (
talk) 05:14, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
Not many editors have yet been assigned a topic, but one has been assigned Ram Mandir which requires ECP. Even the post to Talk:Ram Mandir is a violation. Can you advise them? I also just noticed two courses in the GG area - these instructors need to be told about the sanctions, we don't want students having a difficult time here because they are unaware. Doug Weller talk 11:01, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
I just posted this on the talk page of the course: [1]. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 19:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I am working on the Vaginal Bleeding article for my Wiki class. I made edits into a sandbox last week, but have been unable to find them. I thought it was a sandbox specific to the vaginal bleeding page, however I don't see that as an option now. My personal sandbox is empty. I wasn't sure if t here was a way for you to find my contributions from last week at all so that i didn't have to start over.
Thank you!-- Abilli4 ( talk) 18:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I am hoping you can help me change my self assigned article for my Wiki class. I assigned myself an article for my assignment in class and my professor provided feedback saying that the article was too limiting and I should choose a new one. How do I delete the other article and upload the other one that my professor has approved? Deedeeedits ( talk) 19:58, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello.
I need help with... Finding the list of articles that I need to choose from. My professor created a list of articles that I should find on home page, but I cannot find them and I feel lost. Can you help me ?
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N hatem2001 (
talk) 14:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian! I am one of the students in Prof. Danylevich's Race, Gender, and Medicine class. My group of three (w/ @ Samhivellala and our other member Marie) are deciding whether or not we should start a new page for "internalized ableism" or just add to the section, "Types of Ableism" that mentions it on the "Ableism" page. Do you have any advice on this for us? We are wondering if there are enough instances of internalized ableism being mentioned in other articles (I could only find two) and whether it is just simpler and more helpful to just compile the information we want to write about internalized ableism under the larger "Ableism" page. If you have any pointers, that would be great! Thanks! Gek21 ( talk) 22:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello Ian, hoping for your input at User talk:Jialeijiang about an ESL course. Thanks, Fritzmann ( message me) 14:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
I am using WikiEdu for a class and would like to select and assign tutorials and articles for my students. How can I do that? 212.36.194.12 ( talk) 14:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian! I just copyedited Medial patellofemoral ligament, which I didn't realize was being edited by WikiEd student Cg621 for an assignment. Should I revert myself? I don't want to step on anyone's toes. —asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 15:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
If a "Note: Edits to this page from new or unregistered users are subject to review prior to publication ( help)." appears when I switch to edit mode, will it affect my professor being able to see the changes I make on the article?
JulesJ2024 ( talk) 14:34, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
This editor changed their username several days ago so please leave messages on their new User talk page, instead of this one which needs to remain a Redirect. Many thanks and good luck with Spring Quarter! Liz Read! Talk! 20:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, dropping a note regarding Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Algoma University/Introduction to Community Economic and Social Development II (Winter 2024). A student has selected India, a FA, and has already been asked not to on the talkpage by two others. It is, in any case, ECPed. In general, I would say the course participants have chosen a number of very broad topic articles which seems likely to set them up for disappointment. The one choosing White supremacy may not do well either. Best, CMD ( talk) 10:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
We are seeing some students from this course move their own drafts, or those of their fellow students, into the main space of the project. Some of them actually don't look too bad but there are some issues (gigantic paragraphs, copyright checks, some iffy sources) and I'd like them to be reviewed by someone, like you, an instructor or AFC, before leaping into main space. Thanks for any oversight you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 18:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Please stop Wiki Education, whatever it is. It sets these people up for failure because they do not get the help they need to make good edits.
And since you are an admin (and I am not the first person who told you this 1 2) you know this already so I do not understand why you are involved with Wiki Edu. Make a list of 100 recent edits made by these "student editors" and check what percentage needs to be reverted.
They should not be editing controversial articles or articles containing medical claims and someone experienced should check every single edit made. Polygnotus ( talk) 20:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Make a list of 100 recent edits made by these "student editors" and check what percentage needs to be reverted.
I do not understand why you are involved with Wiki Edu
And since you are an admin
I expect you to be aware of the fact that these student editors are set up for failure because they do not get the help they need to make good edits.
Making good edits isn't hard (plenty of typos to fix) but expecting a student editor to actually improve an article about a controversial topic that has evolved over the years without giving them the guidance required is setting them up for failure.
Why is there no experienced editor that actually sits down with these students to help them?
Why does their work not get checked?
Why do they get assigned articles that they should not be editing without more guidance (e.g. those about controversial topics or those that contain medical claims)?
I didn't have time for 100, but here are 10 recent mainspace edits. I picked from the classes that were most active in the last 2 weeks, and picked the most recent mainspace edit from classes that were active in mainspace
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https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Propaganda_for_Japanese-American_internment&diff=prev&oldid=1217144263 | Replaced a reference to Wikipedia with an RS |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217164175 | Fixed a citation error created by VE |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217119211 | Could be better ("it has been proven" isn't great wording) but it's not something that needs immediate reversion |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Amanda_Jones_(librarian)&diff=prev&oldid=1217080516 | Added a citation where one wasn't before |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217165410 | Fixing their own error |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217241141 | Copyedit |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217119076 | Bad edit that should have been reverted |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217153901 | Looks ok |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1217074685 | I don't like the way the article is laid out, but that pre-dated the student's work |
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=1216972628 | I wouldn't say I'm a fan of this type of a section (tropical fish hobbyist info on Wikipedia is mostly crufty) and I doubt the site is an RS, but it's a fair try for a newbie |
Ian (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 17:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello! Could you please tell your students not to publish their school assignments in mainspace? I've reverted their moves numerous times (more than a handful just today) and it is really becoming disruptive. Thank you. CycloneYoris talk! 06:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi! We are students trying to move our article to the main space but are getting a strange error. Our professor is not sure what to do and said we should ask you for help. Can you check out the page and tell us what is going on? Here is the error we are getting.
Link: Pālamanui Community Forest
This template is not to be used in article space.
This is the sandbox page where you will draft your initial Wikipedia contribution.
If you're starting a new article, you can develop it here until it's ready to go live.
If you're working on improvements to an existing article, copy only one section at a time of the article to this sandbox to work on, and be sure to use an edit summary linking to the article you copied from. Do not copy over the entire article. You can find additional instructions here.
Remember to save your work regularly using the "Publish page" button. (It just means 'save'; it will still be in the sandbox.) You can add bold formatting to your additions to differentiate them from existing content.
Leon02356 ( talk) 00:55, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Revisiting WikiEd questions from
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If I underestimated the amount of good edits caused by Wiki Edu that is awesome; as a pessimist I love being wrong. Perhaps you missed these questions:
(4) Please respond over at Nature therapy, like I asked you before. People do a lot of work, but it doesn't improve the article. (5) Can you please explain to the instructor that this is not a suitable topic for their course (6) and to the student why this is inappropriate for an encyclopedia? (7) Is there a blacklist of topics and article names somewhere? I honestly feel bad reverting 10k bytes from a good faithed editor who will get bitten because their instructor did not give them the help required. Polygnotus ( talk) 05:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC) (8) How do the teachers ensure students aren't simply using ChatGPT or something similar to violate the copyright of the sources? (9) Do the students work from home with no oversight or in a classroom? Polygnotus ( talk) 22:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Turns out they didn't do a lot of work. Bit of digging and I discovered they are introducing blatant copyright violations into Wikipedia, most likely with the help of ChatGPT (or something similar). Assuming good faith failed again. Polygnotus ( talk) 20:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Here you wrote:
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You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Beetle nominations, as well as WikiEdu nominations. Narutolovehinata5 ( talk · contributions) 14:58, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey Ian! I posted it wrong as user instead of article. And so now the page comes up as the user page instead of the article. How do I change this? MidnightStorm0819 ( talk) 17:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Hallo Ian, I've been surprised to see a message at the bottom of a talk page Talk:Louse, announcing that it's a student assignment. I'm used to seeing that information at the top of a talk page, which is where I would look for it if I was wondering whether a bunch of edits were from a student editor. I see the documentation of {{ Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} says it goes at the bottom, though if there is any further discussion added to that talk page it will gradually work its way up the page, surely - and possibly become archived if it's just in a standard post as this one is, perhaps incorrectly?
It would seem a lot clearer if the "this is a student assignment" message was in a neat little box in the top matter of the talk page, staying there as a permanent record that it was a student assignment at date x. (Though I don't see these messages mentioned anywhere within Wikipedia:Talk page layout#Lead (bannerspace), where I'd expect to see them.
It also seems slightly surprising that students are being let loose on invited to improve a Good Article - is that normal practice?
Pam
D 20:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
To the extent that we treat Wiki Ed student editors the same way as any other new editor.... What purpose is served by highlighting them?If I find that a new but slightly clueless editor has worked on a page on my watchlist, making a lot of systematic mistakes (all the section headings in Title Case, spaces before the references, person referred to by forename, over-linking of country names etc, that sort of thing), I might spend quite a bit of time cleaning up the article. If I then realise it's been done by a student who is earning their grade by contributing to the encyclopedia, I feel disgruntled: they'll be getting grade credit for my work. If I realise it's a student editor I might change one instance of each mistake and drop a note on their talk page pointing out the problems, maybe linking to the MOS, and suggesting that their instructor apparently failed to teach them this element of how to edit. So I think it is important for us, the general editors, to be made aware when edits are not being done by a volunteer but by someone editing for grade credit: it's a version of paid editing, really, when someone's motivation is not "improve the encyclopedia and have fun" but "do this assignment and get a good grade". Pam D 07:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey Ian! I appreciate your hard work. I wanted to reach out about an editor who made some edits because they were working on a "school project". Per discussion on their talk page a professor has assigned work, but they haven't posted the typical wikied disclaimers. Not sure if there's anything you can do, but wanted to make you aware! Best, glman ( talk) 23:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello Ian,
It looks like you removed the sustainability contribution from the Airbnb Wiki page and did not really explain why. You stated, "I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it is a poor translation." What does that mean? You did not provide any substantive or relevant feedback for me to view, so how would I revise my article? NorthShoreLife ( talk) 18:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
A number of students in the Comparative Management course appear to be posting AI-generated text and/or images in userspace:
Is this part of an assigned class activity? Omphalographer ( talk) 16:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello Ian, I am a student and just had a question about adding my own chart in a sandbox draft of an article. I have the information cited on where I got the information from and just thought a pie chart might add a section in my article. I was wondering if I was able to make my own pie chart on Canva using that information and if that is possible, how I would go about adding that into Wiki commons? Thank you! Bellamrome ( talk) 22:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Ian,
We've been dealing a lot with students prematurely moving their course work into the main space with incorrect article titles, sandbox tags on the page, poor referencing, all sorts of problems. Most of the time, these pages have to be returned to User space or moved over to Draft space.
But I noticed some superior work being moved into main space tonight that I think will only require a minimum amount of clean-up from our New Page Patrollers. They are students of Macalester College/Global Change Biology course and I just thought I'd let you know when students successfully manage to master editing and article composition on this project of ours. Thanks to you WikiEd folks and the instructor for the excellent instruction. Here's hoping they decide to stick around and continue contributing here. Liz Read! Talk! 06:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I did a rewrite of the cyberattack article, but it is stuck in an edit request that has not been actioned yet. A student in the ITI 200 Section 91 class, Tjb266, is listed as working on the article. It would be better to address the edit request before they start working on the article, otherwise it will be difficult to merge any changes that are made. Buidhe paid ( talk) 07:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Ian, I hope you are okay..I have a draft article on the user page.I have reviewed and made the necessary edit.Couldd you please help move it to the main space. I tried yesterday, it did not work out so well.
Kindly assist.Its part of course work that is needed by tommorow. Also please let me know whether the article is in order. Sharon Ng'ang'a ( talk) 03:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)