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Please note that Mario Camus died on 18 september according to spanish wikipedia. Thank you. -- 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 11:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Could an admin who can provide deleted page history look into this? I noticed on the article List of formerly unidentified decedents, 2020–2029 that there was a closing ref tag missing from the section on Greece John Doe, but in trying to fix it I found it may have been a corruption occurring from a merger from a now deleted article, List of unidentified decedents in the United States. There was no way for me to recover the original citation to figure out what it was supposed to be, since most of it was missing — it had instead been replaced with the section's text occurring immediately before what had been added, namely that the victim has been identified but his identity has not been released to the public. I put a [citation needed] tag for the time being until we can fix it. That's all that needs done. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 17:59, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
How can a new law be put into a policy?. Mohmad Abdul sahib 14:01, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
RudolfRed I have another question. I am working on translating this article Joy buzzer. But I don't understand what this means: (((the pen can be turned to make it release the point))). So explain to me what this means so that I can understand. Mohmad Abdul sahib 11:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Anomie Referring to me is more important than answering!, I wanted to make sure that the matter was correct, but I searched and did not find any information, so what is this type of commercial ballpoint pen called? I need to make sure because I have not found such a kind that does electrocution. Mohmad Abdul sahib 01:46, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Backlog elimination drive: Album covers is an attempt to reduce Category:Album infoboxes lacking a cover, which currently has 24,000 entries. Participation welcome! -- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:29, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
https://altilunium.github.io/patroltool/
It's en-wikipedia's last 1000 changes, but sorted by byte counts. Rtnf ( talk) 09:57, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
So I have created a new language, but I cant figure out how to make letters so I can type digitally. If you could help me with this that would be cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzh123j ( talk • contribs) 22:39, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi there. What can I do to create this article? It has references, and what is written is well founded. The person in question is the current Vice Chancellor of the Universidad de los Andes, he has repeated his execution time in 2020 due to his work in the first period (2016-2018) and is a well-known columnist for the newspaper El Tiempo, the most important of Colombia. What else do I need to reference or add to show that the subject in question is indeed relevant? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuchoVCJMuzik ( talk • contribs) 19:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Note that Bala V Balachandran died on 28 september according to Google. Thank you. -- 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 07:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Black sea or African users? Requesting visit to article Draft:Avret Esir Pazarları – an article about the state of non-elite common women slavery in Ottoman times. Draft is only 75% done 25% scope for expansion still remaining. If topic interests you please come on board and help the draft expansion. Feel free to pass on the message to users who might be interested.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 08:42, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
This is just to briefly inform you that we will be running a low-traffic test during the first week of October.
What does this mean? This means that banners will be visible to some non-logged-in users throughout the whole 7 days. We will only be running them at a traffic level of 7%, which means readers have a small chance of seeing a banner on each pageview, and no readers will see continuous banners.
We're exploring this type of test format, as it allows us to take a better sample of the readership population. If you have any questions or comments please go to the Fundraising talk page JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 06:38, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello all; I'm including the short version of this full announcement below. Please let me know if you have any questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 02:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
This is a short message with an update from the Movement Charter process. The call for candidates for the Drafting Committee closed September 14, and we got a diverse range of candidates. The committee will consist of 15 members, and those will be (s)elected via a 3-step process:
The community elections will take place between October 11 and October 24. The other process will take place in parallel, so that all processes will be concluded by November 1.
For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030wikimedia.org). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeno (WMF) ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone who provided statements. Users may endorse those statements they feel are important at m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Election Compass Statements until October 3rd.
Feel free to let me know if you have questions about this process. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 15:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Nusipkhan Konbay is a male. How can Dalelkhan Sugirbayev's son marry to Nusipkhan Konbay?-- Kaiyr ( talk) 09:00, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
The Azerbaijani language has switched from Cyrillic to Latin script in 1992, and the new Latin-based Azerbaijani alphabet is being used locally. However, mainly because of accustomedness from the Cyrillic era, in English usage Azerbaijani personal or geographic proper names are routinely Anglicized, either directly from Azerbaijani or through the transliteration of the Russian spelling of the Azerbaijani noun, which often leads to those names becoming much more common in English-language sources. As a result, often an article about an Azerbaijani person/place which was started with the local spelling is moved to the Anglicized form once it becomes more known in English-speaking world.
Currently both forms can be seen in Wikipedia. While the Anglicized forms are more common, the local forms for lesser-known people and places aren't an uncommon sight either. I believe either the use of the local spelling or the method of Anglicization should be standardized. There are about five possible ways this could be dealt with as I see it:
c → j
, ç → ch
, ə → a
, ğ → gh
, x → kh
, İ/ı → I/i
, q → g
, ö → o
, ş → sh
, ü → u
:
While I like the option four, I don't know how to make this an official policy, and I want it to be discussed first. – anlztrk ( talk) 09:30, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, just a reminder that editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2021 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2021 (UTC). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Did yesterday's (5 October 2021) outage of Facebook and other social media have any effect on our traffic? I'm imagining the possibility that people who could not access their usual cyber-haunts might have visited WP instead. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 08:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Don't know if this is where this comment goes. However, accessing Wikipedia with Chrome browser has been a problem since September 30. The following is the reason given: NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID. Judging from the numerous comments at Google Chrome Help, it's affecting many Chrome users. This is the explanation given when I click on Advanced:
I'm using Safari to access Wikipedia -- and I don't like using S for editing. I'm sure many Wikipedia readers and editors are encountering the Chrome browser problem. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 13:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Anybody know how to place the Head of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan above the acting prime minister's entry, at the infobox of Acting Third Deputy Prime Minister Abdul Kabir bio? I've tried for hours, but wasn't able to accomplish the feat. It kept ending up underneath the prime minister's entry. My reason for attempting the edit, is because the 'head of the IEA' outranks the prime minister. Been trying to match its placement, with the infoboxes at Acting First Deputy Prime Minister Abdul Ghani Baradar & Acting Second Deputy Prime Minister Abdul Salam Hanafi bios. GoodDay ( talk) 15:09, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Right folks, we're running this competition again after 5 long years - see Wikipedia:Take the lead! Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 12:34, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
--- In fact it means that to write Tatar language in latin is prohibited, and even punctuation of Chukchi language is regulated by RF government. 195.114.148.255 ( talk) 05:32, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello!
Have you noticed that some wikis have a different desktop interface? Are you curious about the next steps? Maybe you have questions or ideas regarding the design or technical matters?
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Hello, this is a reminder that the Universal Code of Conduct Draft Enforcement Guidelines are open for local review and comment (comments may also be left on Meta, and at other local venues). The Drafting Committee will start working on revisions and improvement after October 17, so it will be helpful to provide thoughts before then.
There is also a newly-published abstract that provides an overview of the draft guidelines..
We are also hosting another conversation hour on October 15, 2021 03:00 and 14:00 UTC, as well as another functionary consultation October 7 18:00 UTC (tomorrow).
On behalf of the Drafting Committee, many thanks to everyone who has given ideas so far. We hope to hear from more of you - the Guidelines will be much stronger if more opinions are included. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 16:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 4, October 2021
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeno (WMF) ( talk • contribs) 03:14, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, just a reminder that all editors are invited to provide feedback on the nominations to serve on the 2021 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59, 15 October 2021 (UTC). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 08:24, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
I still remember the days you all drafted Lil Nas X album. The editors say the album article should be drafted until there's an official announcement. While we all know Lil Nas X has already revealed the tracklist, it's still drafted WHILE the editors don't do the same to Adele's album. Now she only reveals the title AND its article has already been released. What's wrong with Wikipedia editors? Racism? Or homophobia? Should I complain Mr. Jimbo to solve this internalized homophobic/racism behaviour? - GogoLion ( talk) 14:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Fram, You talk like I didn't know there was any discussion before drafting. The Adele's album already discussed. YES IT EXISTS. But what the editors do? They want to keep it. Why? Because she is white. Yup, white and straight. And what about drafting discussion of the Lil Nas X's album? Did it exist? If it exists, what the editors say? Why they draft it? Why they don't accept official announcement from the artist (Lil Nas X, the black gay man)? Why you don'think this is not racism/homophobia? Can you explain? Where's the drafting discussion of Lil Nas X's album? - GogoLion ( talk) 16:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Fram, ok bye. I want to talk with another editor.
LivelyRatification what's good? - GogoLion ( talk) 16:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
LivelyRatification, so people drafted the Lil Nas X album because they use Twitter for reference? This is weird... Look at Adele discography, they using Instagram as reference for Easy On Me but nobody cares about "is it acceptable or not?". Also, Lil Nas X's announcement also had official announcement from acceptable sources (one of them is People magazine) but the editors still make it as draft until it really been released. - GogoLion ( talk) 21:05, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
are editors who push homophobic/racist points of view". Thankfully all the admins I know are adept at spotting people like that and showing them the door. ~ TNT (she/her • talk) 17:20, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi all. I'm posting here as a co-curator of the 'Sister projects' track for WikidataCon 2021, which will take place online on 29-31 October 2021. The conference website is at [1].
Integration with Wikidata is a controversial topic here, and we would like to talk about both the pros and cons of Wikidata integration with the other Wikimedia projects during this conference. Whether you like Wikidata or not, please consider submitting a session proposal to explore the issues that you are most interested in.
You can find information about how to submit a session proposal at [2], and you can access the submission form at [3]. Please submit a session proposal through the Pretalx process so that we can review and schedule it appropriately - and make sure to mark it as a 'Sister projects' track proposal. Please note that we cannot accept a session outside of the Pretalx process. We also encourage you to submit talks to other tracks if you are interested!
Note that the deadline for submitting proposals is the 20th October - sorry for the short notice! Thanks. Mike Peel ( talk) 19:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello!
Communities typically block edits from IP addresses that obscure individual users. Usually, it has been about “ open proxies” or virtual private networks (VPNs). Now, there's a new Apple service called iCloud Private Relay that obscures the IP addresses of desktop and mobile users of the Safari browser.
As Apple users adopt this new service, we estimate that 3-5% of all logged-in and logged-out editors will have these obscured IP addresses. If we don't change anything, they may be blocked within a few months. This wiki may be severely affected. A lot of people editing here use the Safari browser. Next, other browser providers may do the same. The problem will grow.
The communities, users with advanced MediaWiki permissions, the Wikimedia Foundation and others need to work together. We all need to decide how the security of the wikis can be maintained. At the same time, the pathways to editing should remain open for all good-faith participants.
Read more on Apple iCloud Private Relay. Answer the questions and comment on its talk page.
Thank you!
SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 21:34, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Movement Strategy Implementation Grants provide resources and support for implementing strategy plans and ideas. The Movement Strategy and Governance team is available to provide support. Learn more. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 15:53, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
"Movement Strategy Implementation Grants support projects that take the current state of a Movement Strategy Initiative and push it one step forward. This way, all initiatives are implemented collectively one step at a time, from research and planning to development and launch. " That... doesn't really make sense. If you want to "collectively" implement them one step at a time, then all initiatives first need to take step 1, then all need to take step 2, and so on. However, the grants are for one initiative at a time. So, which is it? Fram ( talk) 16:02, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm doing some research for something. Interested in knowing where the conventions came from, when we ditched horizontal rules in favor of level-2 headings, and so on. I recall reading something about this years ago, but of course can't find it. Enterprisey ( talk!) 08:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Before talk pages. Moxy- 01:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Voting to elect members to the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians are running for 7 seats in these elections.
Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.
We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. It helps show which candidates hold positions similar to the choices entered.
According to the set up process, the committee will initially consist of 15 members in total. 7 members elected in this process, 6 members selected by Wikimedia affiliates, and 2 members appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. Up to 3 additional members may be appointed by the committee, and steps may be taken to replace members as needed.
More details and the voting link is on Meta.
Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions about this process.
Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 17:15, 12 October 2021 (UTC) (Movement Strategy & Governance Team, Wikimedia Foundation)
← As a gentle reminder, the voting period is about halfway through, and will be closing about 6 days from now. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 13:15, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Guys, I'm thinking to prepare these three articles for Good Article nomination but something is a puzzle to me. As the title of my section clearly shows, May I nominate an article to become a good article with persian references? I want to translate the persian version to english because I think there are not that much about these three articles in english. Ab Pakhsh, Bushehr Province, Bushehr Rohalamin ( talk) 19:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will begin on 27 October (Wednesday) at 14:30 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.
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See MediaWiki talk:Common.css § Orange bar of doom now peach bar of doom. Johnuniq ( talk) 01:24, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Now is the time to make some leads in articles with crappy leads for a chance to win prizes and help all mobile users! See Wikipedia:Take_the_lead! - starting in a matter of hours.... Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 18:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
The Movement Charter Drafting Committee election and selection processes are complete.
The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can appoint up to three more members to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.
If you are interested in engaging with Movement Charter drafting process, follow the updates on Meta and join the Telegram group.
With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 16:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
The picture, a lithograph, is a very poor example of what it presumably illustrates. There is no shoulder in it. It was a real stretch to choose that text for that picture. Wis2fan ( talk) 03:49, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Many of these pictures are of U.S. Treasury secretaries. Who cares about these non-entities? Surely there are people who have made real contributions to the world whose pictures could be featured here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:57C1:DD00:79DD:79EE:AF23:796C ( talk) 06:24, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
For many years I've been an editor focused mostly on improving existing articles rather than writing new articles. In particular I like to do a lot of the dirty, unglamorous work of checking references and improving them. One thing I've come to believe is that references without specific pages and quotes are half-useless. For one, because our articles are in continual flux, over time references tend to drift way from the sentences they support. BUT it's practically impossible to notice this unless you are absurdly familiar with the reference. Another problem is that people are really bad at keeping meaning the same when rewording statements. Many times I check a reference, spending the time to track down the specific text, only to discover "hey, the Wikipedian either didn't understand the text or distorted its meaning". Very very few editors are checking references once they are inserted. The page and quote parameters dramatically help solve these problems. It makes it MUCH less time consuming to check a source. AND at an instant, all editors can check that the Wikipedia text aligns with the meaning of the source text. In my opinion, we need to get all editors to agree to ALWAYS use the page and quote parameters if possible. The only time they should not be used is when it doesn't make sense because the Wikipedia statements are a synthesis of what's said in a much larger body of text. Jason Quinn ( talk) 03:08, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See, Fair Use Index, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians.
|quote=
parameter in cite templates here, which is usually only used for very small quotes. I'm not talking about {{
Blockquote}} which is normally used for larger quotes.) You make a good point to mention international copyright laws but despite trying my best, I am completely failing to see your concerns are valid.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 15:25, 9 October 2021 (UTC)<blockquote>...</blockquote>
(or {{
blockquote}}
or other appropriate template) or you can create a separate footnotes section to hold quoted text. Wherever you put the quoted text, cite it at that location; don't put the quotation in the citation. Quoted text should have a citation; citations should not have quoted text.|quote=
is used. The example you gave is a remarkably ugly usage of the quote parameter. But it's under no serious risk being guilty of a copyright violation. That particular citation should have been improved by being split into several. I would agree that editors should try quote the minimal amount of text necessary, in part to keep such quotes from being overwhelming as you say. But since the quotes I'm discussing really aren't part of the "article proper", there's no need to use them directly via blockquote or direct quoting. These quotes aren't meant to be read unless a reader wants to check the veracity of the main text. As I argued at the start of the thread, the value in using |quote=
is to maintain the integrity of the article. I don't think the assertion that "citations should not have quoted text" follows from the argument presented.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 03:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)|quote=
material is to support other material in an article. This effectively guarantees it is being used transformatively. In the discussion thread you linked,
Moonriddengirl also worries about the market value of the copyright work being impacted as per section 107 of the Copyright Code. That too is an important legal aspect to consider but ultimately nothing to worry about. Even taken in isolation, a defense attorney should be able to easily defend against such a claim. But that doesn't even matter; focusing on just that aspect alone is a case of not
seeing the forest for the trees in US copyright law: Broad latitude is given to people to use copyright material for educational/research and non-profit purposes and we fall under those umbrellas. I looked at the specific version of the article they were worried about. It's completely fine by normal application of Fair Use.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 03:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
|quote=
. Using the same reasoning a person might argue "It's possible to violate copyright by editing Wikipedia and therefore Wikipedia shouldn't exist, even though I've used it myself." I have edited probably 100,000 cite templates and have yet to come across an example like what you claim. They must be exceedingly rare. Using something so rare to establish a "balanced approached" seems to be applying undue weight to them. Generally speaking nothing more should be quoted than necessary to support the text in the article proper. I am promoting more extensive usage of quote, under the assumption, of course, that it's not being abused, which would be pretty obvious in practice.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 08:20, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Agree with
User:Jason Quinn's original comment.
Graeme, you can put aside your concerns about copyright infringement in text included in |quote=
params inside {{
citation}} templates and {{
blockquote}}s and safely use quotations to your heart's content. I assume you've used Google books before and perhaps added some content to an article based on what you read in snippet or preview mode there. As you've no doubt noticed, although Google books that are available in preview mode only provide a fraction of the book content for open viewing, there are frequently runs of several consecutive pages available, and even whole chapters are not rare. While the copyright status of this open display was not always clear, it is now; it was decided in 2015 as fair use under U.S. copyright law.
[1] I'm not recommending that you copy an entire page, or a book chapter from Google books into a citation or a blockquote; even if U.S. law on fair use approves, Wikipedia guidelines would not. But in deciding whether to use |quote=
and how much text you may place into it while improving an article at Wikipedia,
U.S. copyright law regarding fair use is not a factor.
Mathglot (
talk) 18:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
References
Hi, does English wikipedia have relevance criteria/notability criteria for professional gamers and internet personalities like tiktokers and youtubers? And can i get a link if so? -- JOestby ( talk) 11:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
I found a major issue with a particular article, but it’s talk page was so dead the last discussion wrapped up in 2007. I also noticed that people have tried to fix this major issue already but have been stopped by bots for changing the article too much. I wanted to know if there was a place to discuss cases like these, where you won’t attract anything by posting on the talk page but if you post it in this theoretical place their attention would be directed towards that lonely article for a hot minute. Givemesomesteviewonder ( talk) 11:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
In cleaning out a bunch of unused templates, I've found a lot of new articles accidentally created in the Template namespace. I have no idea how this happens, since WP:CREATE handles a lot of the nitty gritty of article creation. Anyone have any theories? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 01:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
{{Wanted title}}
instead of [[Wanted title]]
.
PrimeHunter3 (
talk) 07:31, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Dear all,
Next month, on the 30th of November, the Wikimedia Foundation will be launching its annual fundraising banner campaign on English Wikipedia in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The campaign will run throughout December. I will be in touch again closer to the time with more details. In the meanwhile we are still running banner tests so you might already see banners around if you are not logged in.
We are always looking for ways to improve our campaigns and appreciate your feedback regarding banner messages and design.
Additionally, this year we are testing a new message for a subset of recurring donors to let them know that they can create a Wikipedia account (and get involved in editing if they are interested). After creating their account, they will get directed to Growth features, which are a new onboarding experience for new editors that have been in trial here in English Wikipedia. We also tell them that by creating this account and staying logged in, they will avoid seeing fundraising banners during the campaign in December. This option will not be sent to a large set of donor emails but you might see some new faces around trying out the Growth features.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
Best wishes,
JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 11:18, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Additionally, this year we are testing a new message for a subset of recurring donors to let them know that they can create a Wikipedia account (and get involved in editing if they are interested).– Such a message should be the entirety of the fundraising banner. On the English Wikipedia, it doesn't affect us whether the fundraising banner income is raised or not. It does affect us that we have been haemorraging volunteers for the last 10 years. Everybody I speak to in real life about the issue feels guilty, or like they are doing their bit, based on whether they are donating money to Wikipedia—they have no idea that what Wikipedians actually want is their labour (not necessarily tons of it, just a little help here and there goes a long way). Nor, of course, do any of them understand what the money is put towards, because of the deliberately melodramatic fundraising lies about "paying for server space". — Bilorv ( talk) 14:15, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm sure I didn't dream it... I could swear there used to be a template telling specific bots to stay away.
Qwerfjkl (bot) has just trampled over the article
Ordinal indicator because it is unaware of the
use-mention distinction in the article. It is necessary to write 1<sup>st</sup>
to write about that style of ordinal indicator; 1st
is a different style. I have reverted but no doubt it will be back. So how do I fend it off? --
John Maynard Friedman (
talk) 20:13, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
{{
bots}}
Anyone got anything on how page views vary per hour? I'd be happy with something showing the sum of page views for all pages on a 24-hour cycle, so I could distribute the daily page views using the same pattern. I'm looking to see how many people viewed various pages during specific intervals of minutes/hours as part of User:Enterprisey/AIV analysis - I'm looking to answer "how many people viewed these pages while they were being vandalized at high speed". Enterprisey ( talk!) 07:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Is it OK to put portraits of one's minor children on one's userpage? Keeping in mind that you can't prove it's really your kid. Of course, that's true of all portraits. But these are minors... might be that a proof ticket should be required? Asking. And I mean, even if you took the photo (and have the copyright), the subject didn't consent to be published because they can't... but guardian's rights probably allow it?
I couldn't find anything saying its not OK, not at Wikipedia:User pages or Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy which would be the place I think. That page says children themselves should not post their "date of birth, first and last name, current age, relative or family information, the location (including the country, state, province, city, county, or district) in which they currently live or have previously lived, their current school and grade level, email address, phone number, home address, or the address of a location they attend or visit regularly", but:
So... good to go? Maybe I'm overthinking this? Herostratus ( talk) 08:58, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
I've come to notice that some articles that I've created, or worked on, at times very noticeably spike in numbers of daily viewers. I assume this is because a link to the page was posted in some highly frequented site, such as a forum, social media or maybe a youtube video. I'm curious to know if it's possible to know where viewers are arriving from, and not, if it's possible to implement such a functionality. I think it would be interesting. Wareno ( talk) 20:58, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
The UK arm of retailer Aldi is running online ads featuring mocked-up images of a Wikipedia article about their advertising mascot Kevin the Carrot. ( imgur mirror). I think it's part of a lengthy Christmas advertising campaign (because apparently it's Christmas here in Britain...) It's perhaps a good idea if a few people watchlist that (red) article. -- Finlay McWalter··–· Talk 00:59, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
In the “ Series overview”, “Originally aired” is divided into “First aired” and “Last aired”. Is it possible to combine several “info” into a similar cell in the header of the template? Jolf Staler ( talk) 16:00, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As a reminder, For the 2021 ArbCom elections, eligible users are invited to submit a nomination statement for the Arbitration Committee elections at the elections page. There are about 60 hours remaining to self-nominate. — xaosflux Talk 12:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm really sorry if I'm doing something wrong. I've never used the "Village Pump" before so if this is the wrong use for it then I apologize. TubbDoose ( talk) 01:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Put out spot commercials to increase donations. You should tout your benefits, encourage or shame people into donations, underline ease of giving, and very briefly highlight significant donors. Advertise on TV (for us oldsters with lots of cash -we love free stuff we can trust and we feel guilty about it) and on serious social media. Make a snappy slogan: "Not Fake News", or whatever. Hire a firm on commission (no, not me). Keep in mind psychology studies say people will share only if it's not anonymous; And, hiring professional for-profit fund raisers will net you way more than otherwise. You could try a time-limited experiment to help re-assure your volunteers that you're not sullying their work. Good Luck! — Preceding unsigned comment added by EricDKins ( talk • contribs) 17:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, all. Hundreds of editors have been using the [reply]
button from the
Wikipedia:Talk pages project. You can try it now, on this page, by clicking this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)?dtenable=1 That link will give you several fun new tools, including a [subscribe] button. Go ahead; click it, and then subscribe here. You can even change the section heading, and it will still remember that you want to get
Special:Notifications for every new comment that gets posted to this section. (It won't bother you about typo fixes or that sort of thing; for those, check your watchlist.)
If you click that link, or if visit
Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures and turn on "Discussion tools", you'll see a new little [reply]
button after each comment. When you click that, you get a little box to type your message in. It automatically signs your comments and counts all the ::::
colons for you. You can choose between visual and wikitext source modes; the source mode comes with a live preview of your message. Both versions let you type @
and get a list of editors who previously commented in this section, just in case you want to ping anyone.
During the last month, the [reply] tool has been used about 10,000 times here at the English Wikipedia. It's been used almost half a million times total, across all wikis since the beginning. The mw:Editing team is almost ready to offer this tool by default for all editors at the English Wikipedia. But I wanted to stop by and ask again:
NB that if you turn on the Beta Feature, you get [reply] plus the New Discussion tool plus [subscribe] plus (soon) some other things. Only the little [reply] tool is ready to be deployed to everyone. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 05:34, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
// compact "Reply" links
$( ".ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" ).text('💬');
[reply]
with [💬]
You can put whatever text or emoji you want where the 💬 is in the second line.
Whatamidoing (WMF) (
talk) 17:22, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
$( ".ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket" ).text('');
which loses the [ brackets ] and looks a little cleaner —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me 11:19, 19 November 2021 (UTC)__NOEDITSECTION__
(which includes any pages using the archive templates). --
Ahecht (
TALKFirst off, please tell me if this question belongs somewhere else. I wasn't sure on where to ask, so it's here.
There are some articles ( Among Us, *cough cough*), that make it so you can't even edit the talk page. I'm so confused on why this is because while it's limited to established users it still means people like me who aren't signed in can't do anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.116.194 ( talk) 20:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
It seems that the tracks from the crossover of CTA lines to Halsted St Station (near 26th st, demolished) still exists, and it is a part of Illini and Saluki's route.
PS: That means that St. Charles Air Line starts from the crossover of CTA lines and ends to Halsted Street station.-- Johnson.Xia ( talk) 00:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Some time ago, I raised the issue of pages with too much content, or markup. I worked to reduce the worst excesses. Some editors wiki-lawyered over the meaning of WP:TOOBIG, or argued that their pet pages wore somehow special exemptions.
I have just checked Special:LongPages again, and we now have 93 pages with over 400,000 bytes of markup, and 1756 with over 350,000 bytes.
For example, even my pretty punchy Dell XPS laptop is struggling to render 2021 in mammal paleontology, which has 290,852 bytes. Goodness knows how readers on mobile cope. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Regarding rendered size, the only thing that comes to mind is Category:Pages where post-expand include size is exceeded but I am not sure that "rendered size"="post-expand include size" ( Whatamidoing (WMF)) and of course it has a high threshold. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 10:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
I am currently stumbling through the Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia and I'm noticing many broken links therein. Is there a broken link checking tool that could be used on the page to, en mass, identify the broken links? Deicas ( talk) 04:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
Next week, on the 30th of November, the Wikimedia Foundation will be launching its annual fundraising banner campaign on English Wikipedia in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The campaign will run throughout December. I will be in touch again on the campaign start day and throughout December.
We are always looking for ways to improve our campaigns and appreciate your feedback regarding banner messages and design.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 11:23, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi all. I was reading File:Enwp retention vs active editors.png for some reason. Would we happen to have a more-recent version? I don't think the official statistics website tracks such a number. (Maybe the WMF Growth Team has it?) Enterprisey ( talk!) 08:28, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
WP:Long-term abuse has its uses, I've found a few of the pages there helpful at identifying socks, but beyond a certain point there's a genuine WP:BEANS issue with specific LTA pages. Over the last couple years I've blanked several of people who'd either died or gone inactive, since I saw a couple really lame copycats who clearly got ideas from LTA, and LTA isn't supposed to be a shrine to vandals. Plus, keeping unnecessary names and details there just makes it harder to find what you're looking for. Is there some way to put together a detailed review of what still belongs there and what can be blanked or deleted? The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい) 22:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
If you want the pages to only be accessible to admins, you could delete them? DS ( talk) 15:56, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I can't do this since the article is semi-protected, so I'm asking if any user could do it. Mikelsons' exclusion seems like a big hole in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.22.80.189 ( talk) 20:04, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello!
We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on 30 November (Tuesday), 18:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.
Agenda
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 20:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
We are launching the Wikimedia Foundation’s annual English banner fundraising campaign later today. This means that if you are not logged into your Wikipedia account and are based in Australia, Canada, Ireland, the UK, the US, or New Zealand, you will see our fundraising banners on Wikipedia. The campaign will be running throughout December but we may adjust impression rates or take the banners down at certain points in December. I will be in touch on a regular basis and provide you all with updates on the campaign and answer any questions that arise here or on the fundraising meta talk page. I am aiming at posting the first update on the 7th of December. In the meanwhile:
Thank you all very much for your support and understanding during the campaign and thank you for making Wikipedia an incredible resource for everyone.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 13:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
I feel like I've seen requests for this over the years, but the issue is always that it would be prohibitively expensive, API-wise, to have a bot emulating the effects of Special:Watchlist on user subpages. It occurred to me recently, though, that that wouldn't be the case if you just had a bot periodically update a given user subpage with links to pages they've edited recently; Special:RecentChangesLinked for that page would then function identically to a watchlist for those pages, meaning the bot wouldn't have to actually update on each edit. I got this idea after realizing I could use Special:RecentChangesLinked/User:Tamzin/spihelper log to track SPIs I've been involved in. This would be the same principle.
I'm bringing this up here at VPM, rather than VPT, because it's not really a question of how to make it. I already have an idea of how to code the bot in a manner that would pass BRFA, and can explain those details to anyone interested in doing it themself (since I won't have time to for a month or two, probably). What I'd like to know, though, is if this is something that the editor-base at large would be interested in. I know I'd use it, because I'm the kind of person who often checks their contribs and looks for ones that aren't "current", rather than using my watchlist, but I don't know how common a tendency that is. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 23:07, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Im came by here and want to ask about a question relating about questioning or objecting if it is correct or wrong on the edit that is once proper but then revert due to copyediting. 122.11.214.200 ( talk) 08:16, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Non-contextual words in a document resulted in a search result from google:
I notice that the overall daily pageviews have not exceeded the 250 million mark since 12 September. This is by far the longest period below that mark since the current stats began in 2015. They are still falling - 222 M for the 10th. Johnbod ( talk) 02:36, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
If one goes to Wikipedia: Requested articles, and clicks on the link "Biography", one will see that most of the names are in red wikilinks. However, today I made a request for an article on Scott Erickson, the visual artist. The link was in blue, because there are already articles on people with that name in Wikipedia. None of these, however, were on the person for whom I am requesting an article. Seeing the link in blue may have confused Wikipedians, as it may have led to people thinking there was already an article on the visual artist called Scott Erickson. How can we stop the problem of unintentional blue wikilinks at Wikipedia: Requested articles? YTKJ ( talk) 12:56, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
From my experience, iP's making certain edits are a lot more likely to be reverted than a well-established registered user in good standing making the same edits. This is unfair. Just because you're an IP doesn't mean drastic reformulations are bad, worse, incorrect or incomplete. -- 2A02:AA1:1009:3306:BDA3:4FD1:9B42:F7FD ( talk) 18:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
I’m not donating any more money until MF DOOM is spelled properly in all caps on his page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:1B84:AE00:D0EF:76C6:2CBE:7308 ( talk) 19:40, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
I’m kinda new here and wasn’t sure how to edit Rose Leslie‘s page correctly, so I decided to just let you guys know, that rose Leslie is also narrating in the audible audiobook: “Carmilla” by Sheridan Le Fanu. If I picked the wrong category to address the issue, please let me know where to point out things like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruby Glimmberg ( talk • contribs) 13:53, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
The first week of our English fundraising banner campaign is behind us and I would like to thank you all for your support and understanding. So far our campaign has run smoothly and we have been trying different messaging in all of our banners to see what resonates most with readers.
Several comments have been left both here and on the talk:fundraising page. We will post comments to those in the next few days.
Hear from the donors:
I am a guest lecturer on cruise ships and turn to Wikipedia for information on the ports and places so I can prepare my PowerPoints and presentations. Without access to Wikipedia my work would be so much harder. And you keep making it better, deeper and more intuitive. (donor from the US)
Yeah 2020 felt like the earths magnetic core finally flipped. I work in icu so I’ve seen more death than usual and you’d b surprised at how much we use Wikipedia for basic info to save lives. We know most stuff but once in awhile we like to refresh or just look up new meds that no one has heard of so in a way ur helping us help society. Thanks for all of it. (donor from the US)
Recently an article about my wife, [...], was put up. We are very, very grateful because she wanted to get a page. I had even started an account with the goal of writing the page when, lo and behold, it appeared one day, once more proving that if I just lay around the house like a no-good husband good things will still happen. We think this effort might be attributable to the Wiki Women in Red campaign." (donor from the US)
In the meanwhile:
Thank you all very much for your support and understanding during the campaign. I will be in touch again latest by the 22nd of December.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 07:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
I have donated but not on this device. I has a rather snippy tone I do not care to see after giving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.42.231.26 ( talk) 21:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
We currently have United States starts with the official name, as the United Kingdom, while having various countries or political-entities start with their common name first. I presume the rationale for full official name would be that the main article title at the top is already the common name, therefore new information takes precedency. However, I'd like to request community's opinion on this since it seems rather incoherent throughout the site. Lolitart ( talk) 10:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
the page title should be the subject of the first sentencebut
it may appear in a slightly different form. There are exceptions, such as MOS:FULLNAME for biographies, but I don't see one which applies here. Certes ( talk) 00:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi can someone please tell me why my edit on the page about the Fast & Furious film series was reverted? It doesn't really have to be a national movie with some of the same characters from the series to be considered a spin-off movie. Foreign remakes can also be considered spin-off movies. Take a look at this example: Step Up (franchise). There's a Chinese remake of this American film series named Step Up: Year of the Dance. It's a Chinese remake that doesn't have anything to do with the American films, but it's still considered a spin-off movie. Karamellpudding1999 ( talk) 07:52, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
I wanted to give you a quick update on our annual fundraiser. We have been seeing all your valuable feedback here as well as on our Fundraising Talk Page on Meta and very much appreciate it, in particular, your suggestions for improvement. There are quite a few aspects we would like to take forward and will do so in the next couple of days.
As of Friday, December 17th, 4pm PST (midnight UTC) we will be pausing our Annual Fund banners and we plan to come back with Endowment banners next week, Monday, December 20th. In the meantime, we are working on improvements based on the feedback we’ve received.
We hope that this will significantly lighten the burden of the volunteers who have been so patiently helping readers and donors across English Wikipedia. Thank you very much for all your work!
We will post another update on the campaign by mid-next week. Best wishes, Ppena (WMF) ( talk) 20:13, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
On meta:Talk:Fundraising, Elli floated the idea of an RfC to disable the fundraising banners. Is there interest in such an RfC? It would surely be difficult to get anything done quickly enough for it to matter, with Christmas looming; on the other hand, it might have symbolic value and be instructive even for many Wikipedians who are unaware of just how much the WMF's money demands have increased, and how much the perception created by the banners is at odds with the financial realities (I estimate the WMF currently has $350 million to $400 million in cash, short-term and long-term investments, including the Endowment. In 2020/2021, it had a roughly $50 million surplus of revenue over expenses, but still went to South American countries hard hit by Covid, saying it needed money.) -- Andreas JN 466 11:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
In progress here can mean under construction, running in office, etc. I want to use that to see what can I improve on the article SpaceX Starship - in-dev launch vehicle. The closer topic of the article to Starship the better, but I don't mind that too much. CactiStaccingCrane ( talk) 15:34, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Do we have any existing page (even an article) that explains how to write about statistics/percentages, and specifically a page that explains that "10% as likely" is not even remotely the same thing as "10% more likely"? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
The Board of Trustees is preparing a call for feedback about the upcoming Board Elections, from January 7 - February 10, 2022.
While details will be finalized the week before the call, we have confirmed at least two questions that will be asked during this call for feedback:
While additional questions may be added, the Movement Strategy and Governance team wants to provide time for community members and affiliates to consider and prepare ideas on the confirmed questions before the call opens. We apologize for not having a complete list of questions at this time. The list of questions should only grow by one or two questions. The intention is to not overwhelm the community with requests, but provide notice and welcome feedback on these important questions.
Do you want to help organize local conversation during this Call?
Contact the Movement Strategy and Governance team on Meta, on Telegram, or via email at msgwikimedia.org.
Reach out if you have any questions or concerns. The Movement Strategy and Governance team will be minimally staffed until January 3. Please excuse any delayed response during this time. We also recognize some community members and affiliates are offline during the December holidays. We apologize if our message has reached you while you are on holiday.
Best,
Movement Strategy and Governance
Thank you. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 20:12, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
We are entering the last phase of the English banner fundraising campaign and banners are scheduled to be removed from Wikipedia on the 31st of December. While we will have part of the fundraising team working through the end of the year, many of our colleagues, including me, are taking time off between now and the first weeks of January. Please bear with us as we reply to any questions or comments here or on the fundraising meta talk page in mid-January.
Some updates on the banners:
Last week, we lowered the number of banners a reader/IP address sees from 10 banners to 6. Banners are no longer shown for people who have already donated, closed a banner, or seen 6 banners. We are currently showing banners on less than half of the eligible pageviews in the campaign countries for these reasons. Banners are not being shown to logged in readers, as has been the set up for many years. We are planning to disable banners from the 23rd to the 27th of December. Similar to past years, we will run our final end of year reminder with the Endowment banners, between December 27th through the 31st.
The team has received valuable feedback from volunteers during the campaign. One suggestion was to include a message on the confirmation donor thank you page about how to disable banners across multiple devices. We are currently monitoring the response to this new message on the page. Thank you for this great idea to improve the reading experience for our donors. We have also adjusted banner messaging (e.g. removed the sentence including the number of fundraising banners we’ve shown). The team continues to incorporate feedback and work on improvements for our donors in the last few days we have left of the campaign.
At this time of year, we receive thousands of notes from readers and donors. Please take a look at a few of these notes:
My £21 donation to Wiki P.
so learning's available for folks like me
Includes the 80p admin fee.
With appreciation to you Jimm ee…
(Donor from the UK)
Just wanted to let you know that I increased my donation from a one-time donation to a monthly donation based on your team. After making my initial donation, I asked how I could avoid being asked again each time I accessed your site. I received a quick and very helpful response, to which I replied with a thank you, and received a follow up “glad we could help” message. Now I know you don’t just provide a great website, but great customer service. And great customer service is a rarity these days! Thank you, Wikipedia, and Happy Holidays to you and your staff
(Donor from the US)
Thank you for your kind words of gratitude for such a small donation.
I do look up Wikipedia from time to time and it would be a real shame not to have this wonderful resource available at our fingertips.
What a legacy you have created, founding Wikipedia 20 years ago. I hope you and your staff enjoy your 20th year celebration and I hope there are many more years to come.
You should be very proud of your and your staffs achievements.
(Donor from Australia)
In the meanwhile:
Thank you all very much for your support and understanding during the campaign. We realise there has been pressure on volunteers monitoring the Teahouse and the Helpdesk these past weeks and we are very thankful to all of you who patiently responded to donor questions, complaints, and feedback.
I will be in touch again briefly at the start of January.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 13:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey look, another bunch of people paying the WMF and thanking Wikipedia. It's almost as if they believe that the banners they see on Wikipedia go directly to fund Wikipedia, and not to fund the organisation behind it which does many, many things, some of them even beneficial for Wikipedia! And of course, all of them believing that their donations are needed to keep Wikipedia running. As if... Fram ( talk) 14:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi all.
I guess there is some deadlock on the talk page of List of Taiwanese inventions and discoveries. We need some help especially editors who are familiar with Political status of Taiwan.
In brief, an editor added Bopomofo in the list for its inventor is a citizen of Republic of China, which is formally named Taiwan. However, some Taiwanese editor don't agree the editing because Bopomofo was published in 1918 while Taiwan is still under the rule of Japan. The inventor of Bopomofo is not a Taiwanese yet, though he came to Taiwan with the government of Republic of China in 1949. We think the definition of "Taiwanese" is better if only included citizen of Republic of China since 1945 or 1949 (more similar as the definition of article Taiwanese people, or it could make some problem (for example, if Mao Zedong invited something before 1949, that would be a Taiwanese invention). But the original editor like since 1912 more because he thinks the ROC which is named Taiwan also today is the same country as the ROC before. Now that a citizen of ROC today is Taiwanese, it no reason to a citizen of ROC before 1945 can't be seen as a Taiwanese.
The same debate also happen on Chinese Wikipedia. A third part editor renamed (moved) the article to "List of inventions and discoveries of Taiwan in post-war period" then ended the debate. However I understand there are different rule between Wikipedia in different languages, maybe it not work in here. However, to ask some third part opinion may be helpful.-- Reke ( talk) 07:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey folks! Sharing here a discussion on the List of most expensive artworks by living artists, specifically at Talk:List_of_most_expensive_artworks_by_living_artists#RfC:_Categorizing_NFT_sales_in_the_list_of_most_expensive_artworks_by_living_artists. Working through the question of whether NTFs (or NFT art) should be included in this list. If anyone has thoughts or comments, would appreciate additional input! SiliconRed ( talk) 22:08, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
The English fundraising campaign banners came down yesterday and are now no longer shown for non logged in users. We would like to thank all of you for your support, patience and understanding during the last month.
It is thanks to your support that we are able to sustain Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects.
Many of our colleagues will be taking the next week off so any questions you might post here or on the fundraising meta talk page will not be answered until mid-January.
Thank you again.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 10:09, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Anyone want to tackle nominating this category and its sub-categories for deletion as Wikipedia:Overcategorization when there is already Category:Living people and xxxx births. Thanks. -- Bamyers99 ( talk) 22:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
incategory:"living people"
to find biographies which should be BLP compliant. All current subcategories of
Category:Living people by year were created yesterday by
Jph, apparently without a discussion. That seems a little too bold for something that would require around a million new categorizations if applied to all of
Category:Living people.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 15:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)Done Nominated: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 2#Category:Living people by year -- Bamyers99 ( talk) 19:27, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
See Special:Diff/1063886411. Simply removing a } will delete the tag from the article without the abuse filter noticing.
This is a bugfix request not a tip to other editors, I can't find where to report bugs and it isn't really that related to WMF so I'm putting it here. Anpang01 ( talk) 12:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
I'd like to have a comprehensive directory of things a new wikipedian could get involved in if they want to do more than just write content but don't know what's available or needed. I started User:RoySmith/How can I help?, but I don't want to invest a lot of effort if it's just duplicating something that already exists. Please feel free to add entries, and if this ever reaches any kind of critical mass, I'll move it into WP space. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2022 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.
You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.
You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.
Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.
Kind regards,
Wiki loves Folklore International Team
-- MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:14, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
I organized with two colleagues the wikicontest of the Month Oceania ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Mois_oc%C3%A9anien_Wikip%C3%A9dia/2021) on the French version of wikipedia which took place in December 2021. It is now over. I would like to know if a Wikipedian living in a country in Oceania would agree to send from his country of residence, postcards in the colors of the competition. It would be a nice nod to the three competition winners who will soon be named. All the costs of printing these postcards and sending them will be covered by the Wikimedia France association. Concretely, the Wikipedian would receive in his mailbox the postcards already printed. He would just have to write the address on the back, place a stamp there that he would buy and then drop them off at the post office. The purchase of stamps for France or any other country of residence of the winners would of course be reimbursed.
Would anyone be interested?
-- Girart de Roussillon ( talk) 22:17, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
So my question is basically for my understanding of what metadata means that means the right to violate privacy then I give us a company or organization government whoever the right to violate someone's privacy am I correct to assume have to excuse me my phone is not acting correctly but obviously been Meta Meta data didn't know that I was being mad at it but anyways and I know more enjoy your most people know don't know that they're being actually violated from their privacy but anyways is that's what this means metadata can somebody please answer that for me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:447:C000:4F50:6532:B7A1:B6D9:A641 ( talk) 04:49, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
Greetings! You are invited to participate in Feminism and Folklore 2022 writing competion. This year Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women biographies and gender-focused topics for the project in league with Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus with folk culture theme on Wikipedia.
You can help us in enriching the folklore documentation on Wikipedia from your region by creating or improving articles focused on folklore around the world, including, but not limited to folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer personalities in folklore, folk culture (folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales and more. You can contribute to new articles or translate from the list of suggested articles here.
You can also support us in organizing the contest on your local Wikipedia by signing up your community to participate in this project and also translating the project page and help us spread the word in your native language.
Learn more about the contest and prizes from our project page. Feel free to contact us on our talk page or via Email if you need any assistance...
Thank you.
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I've been impressed by this website which takes IPA (e.g. /ˈbɜːrmɪŋəm/) as input, and pronounces it. Could we do something similar? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I spend a lot of time on Wikipediaso they might be amenable to helping us out, but the tool relies on Amazon Polly, which I doubt is open source. Still probably worth reaching out to see what they say. Cheers, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 20:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I've created a task for this topic, at Phabricator. Link above. Please feel free to add useful notes or links, etc, there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:06, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Its name was The Quest and it was a retro pixel game with the icon resembling a pixelated knight holding a sword upwards. I really need a link or something. It was a really fun game (For me at least) and I have seen no articles so if anyone knows ANYTHING about this please edit a reply, I want to make a wiki for The Quest but I need more information then I already know. I think there was more than one character in the game. LeggoMyEggoNOW ( talk) 20:08, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
The Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is now open!
This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 23 January, or comment on other proposals to help make them better.
The communities will vote on the proposals between 28 January and 11 February.
The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals! SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 18:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
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I just discovered Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green recently, which I think is an awesome thing to have, a WikiProject dedicated specifically to article improvement, and a cool bookend to Women in Red which is dedicated to creating new articles. Does anyone know of any other WikiProjects dedicated specifically to improving other types of articles? Should there be more like this one to cover other areas? I could see how it would be great to have places to go for people looking for a project, and maybe have ones like History, Math/Science/Medicine, Sports, Popular culture, etc. BOZ ( talk) 13:37, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I can see that spin-off films are listed in the List of film series articles, just look here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Is it correct to list spin-off films there? Althrough a spin-off film is a part of the franchise, it's not a part of the film series. It's a standalone movie in the same franchise as the film series. Karamellpudding1999 ( talk) 08:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
There is a user on Wikibooks looking for assistance from a Wikipedia administrator regarding an IP block.
Their request can be found on Wikibooks:Reading room/Assistance.
I figured I'd ask on their behalf, since they've tried a few different things and the issue is apparently unresolved. -- Mbrickn ( talk) 22:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Please note that Mario Camus died on 18 september according to spanish wikipedia. Thank you. -- 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 11:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Could an admin who can provide deleted page history look into this? I noticed on the article List of formerly unidentified decedents, 2020–2029 that there was a closing ref tag missing from the section on Greece John Doe, but in trying to fix it I found it may have been a corruption occurring from a merger from a now deleted article, List of unidentified decedents in the United States. There was no way for me to recover the original citation to figure out what it was supposed to be, since most of it was missing — it had instead been replaced with the section's text occurring immediately before what had been added, namely that the victim has been identified but his identity has not been released to the public. I put a [citation needed] tag for the time being until we can fix it. That's all that needs done. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 17:59, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
How can a new law be put into a policy?. Mohmad Abdul sahib 14:01, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
RudolfRed I have another question. I am working on translating this article Joy buzzer. But I don't understand what this means: (((the pen can be turned to make it release the point))). So explain to me what this means so that I can understand. Mohmad Abdul sahib 11:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Anomie Referring to me is more important than answering!, I wanted to make sure that the matter was correct, but I searched and did not find any information, so what is this type of commercial ballpoint pen called? I need to make sure because I have not found such a kind that does electrocution. Mohmad Abdul sahib 01:46, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Backlog elimination drive: Album covers is an attempt to reduce Category:Album infoboxes lacking a cover, which currently has 24,000 entries. Participation welcome! -- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:29, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
https://altilunium.github.io/patroltool/
It's en-wikipedia's last 1000 changes, but sorted by byte counts. Rtnf ( talk) 09:57, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
So I have created a new language, but I cant figure out how to make letters so I can type digitally. If you could help me with this that would be cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzh123j ( talk • contribs) 22:39, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi there. What can I do to create this article? It has references, and what is written is well founded. The person in question is the current Vice Chancellor of the Universidad de los Andes, he has repeated his execution time in 2020 due to his work in the first period (2016-2018) and is a well-known columnist for the newspaper El Tiempo, the most important of Colombia. What else do I need to reference or add to show that the subject in question is indeed relevant? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuchoVCJMuzik ( talk • contribs) 19:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Note that Bala V Balachandran died on 28 september according to Google. Thank you. -- 109.185.175.84 ( talk) 07:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Black sea or African users? Requesting visit to article Draft:Avret Esir Pazarları – an article about the state of non-elite common women slavery in Ottoman times. Draft is only 75% done 25% scope for expansion still remaining. If topic interests you please come on board and help the draft expansion. Feel free to pass on the message to users who might be interested.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 08:42, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
This is just to briefly inform you that we will be running a low-traffic test during the first week of October.
What does this mean? This means that banners will be visible to some non-logged-in users throughout the whole 7 days. We will only be running them at a traffic level of 7%, which means readers have a small chance of seeing a banner on each pageview, and no readers will see continuous banners.
We're exploring this type of test format, as it allows us to take a better sample of the readership population. If you have any questions or comments please go to the Fundraising talk page JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 06:38, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello all; I'm including the short version of this full announcement below. Please let me know if you have any questions. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 02:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
This is a short message with an update from the Movement Charter process. The call for candidates for the Drafting Committee closed September 14, and we got a diverse range of candidates. The committee will consist of 15 members, and those will be (s)elected via a 3-step process:
The community elections will take place between October 11 and October 24. The other process will take place in parallel, so that all processes will be concluded by November 1.
For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030wikimedia.org). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeno (WMF) ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone who provided statements. Users may endorse those statements they feel are important at m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Charter/Drafting Committee/Election Compass Statements until October 3rd.
Feel free to let me know if you have questions about this process. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 15:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Nusipkhan Konbay is a male. How can Dalelkhan Sugirbayev's son marry to Nusipkhan Konbay?-- Kaiyr ( talk) 09:00, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
The Azerbaijani language has switched from Cyrillic to Latin script in 1992, and the new Latin-based Azerbaijani alphabet is being used locally. However, mainly because of accustomedness from the Cyrillic era, in English usage Azerbaijani personal or geographic proper names are routinely Anglicized, either directly from Azerbaijani or through the transliteration of the Russian spelling of the Azerbaijani noun, which often leads to those names becoming much more common in English-language sources. As a result, often an article about an Azerbaijani person/place which was started with the local spelling is moved to the Anglicized form once it becomes more known in English-speaking world.
Currently both forms can be seen in Wikipedia. While the Anglicized forms are more common, the local forms for lesser-known people and places aren't an uncommon sight either. I believe either the use of the local spelling or the method of Anglicization should be standardized. There are about five possible ways this could be dealt with as I see it:
c → j
, ç → ch
, ə → a
, ğ → gh
, x → kh
, İ/ı → I/i
, q → g
, ö → o
, ş → sh
, ü → u
:
While I like the option four, I don't know how to make this an official policy, and I want it to be discussed first. – anlztrk ( talk) 09:30, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, just a reminder that editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2021 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2021 (UTC). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Did yesterday's (5 October 2021) outage of Facebook and other social media have any effect on our traffic? I'm imagining the possibility that people who could not access their usual cyber-haunts might have visited WP instead. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 08:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Don't know if this is where this comment goes. However, accessing Wikipedia with Chrome browser has been a problem since September 30. The following is the reason given: NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID. Judging from the numerous comments at Google Chrome Help, it's affecting many Chrome users. This is the explanation given when I click on Advanced:
I'm using Safari to access Wikipedia -- and I don't like using S for editing. I'm sure many Wikipedia readers and editors are encountering the Chrome browser problem. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 13:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Anybody know how to place the Head of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan above the acting prime minister's entry, at the infobox of Acting Third Deputy Prime Minister Abdul Kabir bio? I've tried for hours, but wasn't able to accomplish the feat. It kept ending up underneath the prime minister's entry. My reason for attempting the edit, is because the 'head of the IEA' outranks the prime minister. Been trying to match its placement, with the infoboxes at Acting First Deputy Prime Minister Abdul Ghani Baradar & Acting Second Deputy Prime Minister Abdul Salam Hanafi bios. GoodDay ( talk) 15:09, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Right folks, we're running this competition again after 5 long years - see Wikipedia:Take the lead! Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 12:34, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
--- In fact it means that to write Tatar language in latin is prohibited, and even punctuation of Chukchi language is regulated by RF government. 195.114.148.255 ( talk) 05:32, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, this is a reminder that the Universal Code of Conduct Draft Enforcement Guidelines are open for local review and comment (comments may also be left on Meta, and at other local venues). The Drafting Committee will start working on revisions and improvement after October 17, so it will be helpful to provide thoughts before then.
There is also a newly-published abstract that provides an overview of the draft guidelines..
We are also hosting another conversation hour on October 15, 2021 03:00 and 14:00 UTC, as well as another functionary consultation October 7 18:00 UTC (tomorrow).
On behalf of the Drafting Committee, many thanks to everyone who has given ideas so far. We hope to hear from more of you - the Guidelines will be much stronger if more opinions are included. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 16:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 4, October 2021
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeno (WMF) ( talk • contribs) 03:14, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, just a reminder that all editors are invited to provide feedback on the nominations to serve on the 2021 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59, 15 October 2021 (UTC). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 08:24, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
I still remember the days you all drafted Lil Nas X album. The editors say the album article should be drafted until there's an official announcement. While we all know Lil Nas X has already revealed the tracklist, it's still drafted WHILE the editors don't do the same to Adele's album. Now she only reveals the title AND its article has already been released. What's wrong with Wikipedia editors? Racism? Or homophobia? Should I complain Mr. Jimbo to solve this internalized homophobic/racism behaviour? - GogoLion ( talk) 14:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Fram, You talk like I didn't know there was any discussion before drafting. The Adele's album already discussed. YES IT EXISTS. But what the editors do? They want to keep it. Why? Because she is white. Yup, white and straight. And what about drafting discussion of the Lil Nas X's album? Did it exist? If it exists, what the editors say? Why they draft it? Why they don't accept official announcement from the artist (Lil Nas X, the black gay man)? Why you don'think this is not racism/homophobia? Can you explain? Where's the drafting discussion of Lil Nas X's album? - GogoLion ( talk) 16:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Fram, ok bye. I want to talk with another editor.
LivelyRatification what's good? - GogoLion ( talk) 16:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
LivelyRatification, so people drafted the Lil Nas X album because they use Twitter for reference? This is weird... Look at Adele discography, they using Instagram as reference for Easy On Me but nobody cares about "is it acceptable or not?". Also, Lil Nas X's announcement also had official announcement from acceptable sources (one of them is People magazine) but the editors still make it as draft until it really been released. - GogoLion ( talk) 21:05, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
are editors who push homophobic/racist points of view". Thankfully all the admins I know are adept at spotting people like that and showing them the door. ~ TNT (she/her • talk) 17:20, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi all. I'm posting here as a co-curator of the 'Sister projects' track for WikidataCon 2021, which will take place online on 29-31 October 2021. The conference website is at [1].
Integration with Wikidata is a controversial topic here, and we would like to talk about both the pros and cons of Wikidata integration with the other Wikimedia projects during this conference. Whether you like Wikidata or not, please consider submitting a session proposal to explore the issues that you are most interested in.
You can find information about how to submit a session proposal at [2], and you can access the submission form at [3]. Please submit a session proposal through the Pretalx process so that we can review and schedule it appropriately - and make sure to mark it as a 'Sister projects' track proposal. Please note that we cannot accept a session outside of the Pretalx process. We also encourage you to submit talks to other tracks if you are interested!
Note that the deadline for submitting proposals is the 20th October - sorry for the short notice! Thanks. Mike Peel ( talk) 19:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello!
Communities typically block edits from IP addresses that obscure individual users. Usually, it has been about “ open proxies” or virtual private networks (VPNs). Now, there's a new Apple service called iCloud Private Relay that obscures the IP addresses of desktop and mobile users of the Safari browser.
As Apple users adopt this new service, we estimate that 3-5% of all logged-in and logged-out editors will have these obscured IP addresses. If we don't change anything, they may be blocked within a few months. This wiki may be severely affected. A lot of people editing here use the Safari browser. Next, other browser providers may do the same. The problem will grow.
The communities, users with advanced MediaWiki permissions, the Wikimedia Foundation and others need to work together. We all need to decide how the security of the wikis can be maintained. At the same time, the pathways to editing should remain open for all good-faith participants.
Read more on Apple iCloud Private Relay. Answer the questions and comment on its talk page.
Thank you!
SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 21:34, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Movement Strategy Implementation Grants provide resources and support for implementing strategy plans and ideas. The Movement Strategy and Governance team is available to provide support. Learn more. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 15:53, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
"Movement Strategy Implementation Grants support projects that take the current state of a Movement Strategy Initiative and push it one step forward. This way, all initiatives are implemented collectively one step at a time, from research and planning to development and launch. " That... doesn't really make sense. If you want to "collectively" implement them one step at a time, then all initiatives first need to take step 1, then all need to take step 2, and so on. However, the grants are for one initiative at a time. So, which is it? Fram ( talk) 16:02, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm doing some research for something. Interested in knowing where the conventions came from, when we ditched horizontal rules in favor of level-2 headings, and so on. I recall reading something about this years ago, but of course can't find it. Enterprisey ( talk!) 08:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Before talk pages. Moxy- 01:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Voting to elect members to the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians are running for 7 seats in these elections.
Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.
We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. It helps show which candidates hold positions similar to the choices entered.
According to the set up process, the committee will initially consist of 15 members in total. 7 members elected in this process, 6 members selected by Wikimedia affiliates, and 2 members appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. Up to 3 additional members may be appointed by the committee, and steps may be taken to replace members as needed.
More details and the voting link is on Meta.
Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions about this process.
Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 17:15, 12 October 2021 (UTC) (Movement Strategy & Governance Team, Wikimedia Foundation)
← As a gentle reminder, the voting period is about halfway through, and will be closing about 6 days from now. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 13:15, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Guys, I'm thinking to prepare these three articles for Good Article nomination but something is a puzzle to me. As the title of my section clearly shows, May I nominate an article to become a good article with persian references? I want to translate the persian version to english because I think there are not that much about these three articles in english. Ab Pakhsh, Bushehr Province, Bushehr Rohalamin ( talk) 19:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will begin on 27 October (Wednesday) at 14:30 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.
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The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.
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We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
See MediaWiki talk:Common.css § Orange bar of doom now peach bar of doom. Johnuniq ( talk) 01:24, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Now is the time to make some leads in articles with crappy leads for a chance to win prizes and help all mobile users! See Wikipedia:Take_the_lead! - starting in a matter of hours.... Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 18:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
The Movement Charter Drafting Committee election and selection processes are complete.
The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can appoint up to three more members to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.
If you are interested in engaging with Movement Charter drafting process, follow the updates on Meta and join the Telegram group.
With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 16:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
The picture, a lithograph, is a very poor example of what it presumably illustrates. There is no shoulder in it. It was a real stretch to choose that text for that picture. Wis2fan ( talk) 03:49, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Many of these pictures are of U.S. Treasury secretaries. Who cares about these non-entities? Surely there are people who have made real contributions to the world whose pictures could be featured here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:57C1:DD00:79DD:79EE:AF23:796C ( talk) 06:24, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
For many years I've been an editor focused mostly on improving existing articles rather than writing new articles. In particular I like to do a lot of the dirty, unglamorous work of checking references and improving them. One thing I've come to believe is that references without specific pages and quotes are half-useless. For one, because our articles are in continual flux, over time references tend to drift way from the sentences they support. BUT it's practically impossible to notice this unless you are absurdly familiar with the reference. Another problem is that people are really bad at keeping meaning the same when rewording statements. Many times I check a reference, spending the time to track down the specific text, only to discover "hey, the Wikipedian either didn't understand the text or distorted its meaning". Very very few editors are checking references once they are inserted. The page and quote parameters dramatically help solve these problems. It makes it MUCH less time consuming to check a source. AND at an instant, all editors can check that the Wikipedia text aligns with the meaning of the source text. In my opinion, we need to get all editors to agree to ALWAYS use the page and quote parameters if possible. The only time they should not be used is when it doesn't make sense because the Wikipedia statements are a synthesis of what's said in a much larger body of text. Jason Quinn ( talk) 03:08, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See, Fair Use Index, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians.
|quote=
parameter in cite templates here, which is usually only used for very small quotes. I'm not talking about {{
Blockquote}} which is normally used for larger quotes.) You make a good point to mention international copyright laws but despite trying my best, I am completely failing to see your concerns are valid.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 15:25, 9 October 2021 (UTC)<blockquote>...</blockquote>
(or {{
blockquote}}
or other appropriate template) or you can create a separate footnotes section to hold quoted text. Wherever you put the quoted text, cite it at that location; don't put the quotation in the citation. Quoted text should have a citation; citations should not have quoted text.|quote=
is used. The example you gave is a remarkably ugly usage of the quote parameter. But it's under no serious risk being guilty of a copyright violation. That particular citation should have been improved by being split into several. I would agree that editors should try quote the minimal amount of text necessary, in part to keep such quotes from being overwhelming as you say. But since the quotes I'm discussing really aren't part of the "article proper", there's no need to use them directly via blockquote or direct quoting. These quotes aren't meant to be read unless a reader wants to check the veracity of the main text. As I argued at the start of the thread, the value in using |quote=
is to maintain the integrity of the article. I don't think the assertion that "citations should not have quoted text" follows from the argument presented.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 03:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)|quote=
material is to support other material in an article. This effectively guarantees it is being used transformatively. In the discussion thread you linked,
Moonriddengirl also worries about the market value of the copyright work being impacted as per section 107 of the Copyright Code. That too is an important legal aspect to consider but ultimately nothing to worry about. Even taken in isolation, a defense attorney should be able to easily defend against such a claim. But that doesn't even matter; focusing on just that aspect alone is a case of not
seeing the forest for the trees in US copyright law: Broad latitude is given to people to use copyright material for educational/research and non-profit purposes and we fall under those umbrellas. I looked at the specific version of the article they were worried about. It's completely fine by normal application of Fair Use.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 03:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
|quote=
. Using the same reasoning a person might argue "It's possible to violate copyright by editing Wikipedia and therefore Wikipedia shouldn't exist, even though I've used it myself." I have edited probably 100,000 cite templates and have yet to come across an example like what you claim. They must be exceedingly rare. Using something so rare to establish a "balanced approached" seems to be applying undue weight to them. Generally speaking nothing more should be quoted than necessary to support the text in the article proper. I am promoting more extensive usage of quote, under the assumption, of course, that it's not being abused, which would be pretty obvious in practice.
Jason Quinn (
talk) 08:20, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Agree with
User:Jason Quinn's original comment.
Graeme, you can put aside your concerns about copyright infringement in text included in |quote=
params inside {{
citation}} templates and {{
blockquote}}s and safely use quotations to your heart's content. I assume you've used Google books before and perhaps added some content to an article based on what you read in snippet or preview mode there. As you've no doubt noticed, although Google books that are available in preview mode only provide a fraction of the book content for open viewing, there are frequently runs of several consecutive pages available, and even whole chapters are not rare. While the copyright status of this open display was not always clear, it is now; it was decided in 2015 as fair use under U.S. copyright law.
[1] I'm not recommending that you copy an entire page, or a book chapter from Google books into a citation or a blockquote; even if U.S. law on fair use approves, Wikipedia guidelines would not. But in deciding whether to use |quote=
and how much text you may place into it while improving an article at Wikipedia,
U.S. copyright law regarding fair use is not a factor.
Mathglot (
talk) 18:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
References
Hi, does English wikipedia have relevance criteria/notability criteria for professional gamers and internet personalities like tiktokers and youtubers? And can i get a link if so? -- JOestby ( talk) 11:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
I found a major issue with a particular article, but it’s talk page was so dead the last discussion wrapped up in 2007. I also noticed that people have tried to fix this major issue already but have been stopped by bots for changing the article too much. I wanted to know if there was a place to discuss cases like these, where you won’t attract anything by posting on the talk page but if you post it in this theoretical place their attention would be directed towards that lonely article for a hot minute. Givemesomesteviewonder ( talk) 11:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
In cleaning out a bunch of unused templates, I've found a lot of new articles accidentally created in the Template namespace. I have no idea how this happens, since WP:CREATE handles a lot of the nitty gritty of article creation. Anyone have any theories? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 01:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
{{Wanted title}}
instead of [[Wanted title]]
.
PrimeHunter3 (
talk) 07:31, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Dear all,
Next month, on the 30th of November, the Wikimedia Foundation will be launching its annual fundraising banner campaign on English Wikipedia in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The campaign will run throughout December. I will be in touch again closer to the time with more details. In the meanwhile we are still running banner tests so you might already see banners around if you are not logged in.
We are always looking for ways to improve our campaigns and appreciate your feedback regarding banner messages and design.
Additionally, this year we are testing a new message for a subset of recurring donors to let them know that they can create a Wikipedia account (and get involved in editing if they are interested). After creating their account, they will get directed to Growth features, which are a new onboarding experience for new editors that have been in trial here in English Wikipedia. We also tell them that by creating this account and staying logged in, they will avoid seeing fundraising banners during the campaign in December. This option will not be sent to a large set of donor emails but you might see some new faces around trying out the Growth features.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
Best wishes,
JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 11:18, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Additionally, this year we are testing a new message for a subset of recurring donors to let them know that they can create a Wikipedia account (and get involved in editing if they are interested).– Such a message should be the entirety of the fundraising banner. On the English Wikipedia, it doesn't affect us whether the fundraising banner income is raised or not. It does affect us that we have been haemorraging volunteers for the last 10 years. Everybody I speak to in real life about the issue feels guilty, or like they are doing their bit, based on whether they are donating money to Wikipedia—they have no idea that what Wikipedians actually want is their labour (not necessarily tons of it, just a little help here and there goes a long way). Nor, of course, do any of them understand what the money is put towards, because of the deliberately melodramatic fundraising lies about "paying for server space". — Bilorv ( talk) 14:15, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm sure I didn't dream it... I could swear there used to be a template telling specific bots to stay away.
Qwerfjkl (bot) has just trampled over the article
Ordinal indicator because it is unaware of the
use-mention distinction in the article. It is necessary to write 1<sup>st</sup>
to write about that style of ordinal indicator; 1st
is a different style. I have reverted but no doubt it will be back. So how do I fend it off? --
John Maynard Friedman (
talk) 20:13, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
{{
bots}}
Anyone got anything on how page views vary per hour? I'd be happy with something showing the sum of page views for all pages on a 24-hour cycle, so I could distribute the daily page views using the same pattern. I'm looking to see how many people viewed various pages during specific intervals of minutes/hours as part of User:Enterprisey/AIV analysis - I'm looking to answer "how many people viewed these pages while they were being vandalized at high speed". Enterprisey ( talk!) 07:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Is it OK to put portraits of one's minor children on one's userpage? Keeping in mind that you can't prove it's really your kid. Of course, that's true of all portraits. But these are minors... might be that a proof ticket should be required? Asking. And I mean, even if you took the photo (and have the copyright), the subject didn't consent to be published because they can't... but guardian's rights probably allow it?
I couldn't find anything saying its not OK, not at Wikipedia:User pages or Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy which would be the place I think. That page says children themselves should not post their "date of birth, first and last name, current age, relative or family information, the location (including the country, state, province, city, county, or district) in which they currently live or have previously lived, their current school and grade level, email address, phone number, home address, or the address of a location they attend or visit regularly", but:
So... good to go? Maybe I'm overthinking this? Herostratus ( talk) 08:58, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
I've come to notice that some articles that I've created, or worked on, at times very noticeably spike in numbers of daily viewers. I assume this is because a link to the page was posted in some highly frequented site, such as a forum, social media or maybe a youtube video. I'm curious to know if it's possible to know where viewers are arriving from, and not, if it's possible to implement such a functionality. I think it would be interesting. Wareno ( talk) 20:58, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
The UK arm of retailer Aldi is running online ads featuring mocked-up images of a Wikipedia article about their advertising mascot Kevin the Carrot. ( imgur mirror). I think it's part of a lengthy Christmas advertising campaign (because apparently it's Christmas here in Britain...) It's perhaps a good idea if a few people watchlist that (red) article. -- Finlay McWalter··–· Talk 00:59, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
In the “ Series overview”, “Originally aired” is divided into “First aired” and “Last aired”. Is it possible to combine several “info” into a similar cell in the header of the template? Jolf Staler ( talk) 16:00, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As a reminder, For the 2021 ArbCom elections, eligible users are invited to submit a nomination statement for the Arbitration Committee elections at the elections page. There are about 60 hours remaining to self-nominate. — xaosflux Talk 12:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm really sorry if I'm doing something wrong. I've never used the "Village Pump" before so if this is the wrong use for it then I apologize. TubbDoose ( talk) 01:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Put out spot commercials to increase donations. You should tout your benefits, encourage or shame people into donations, underline ease of giving, and very briefly highlight significant donors. Advertise on TV (for us oldsters with lots of cash -we love free stuff we can trust and we feel guilty about it) and on serious social media. Make a snappy slogan: "Not Fake News", or whatever. Hire a firm on commission (no, not me). Keep in mind psychology studies say people will share only if it's not anonymous; And, hiring professional for-profit fund raisers will net you way more than otherwise. You could try a time-limited experiment to help re-assure your volunteers that you're not sullying their work. Good Luck! — Preceding unsigned comment added by EricDKins ( talk • contribs) 17:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, all. Hundreds of editors have been using the [reply]
button from the
Wikipedia:Talk pages project. You can try it now, on this page, by clicking this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)?dtenable=1 That link will give you several fun new tools, including a [subscribe] button. Go ahead; click it, and then subscribe here. You can even change the section heading, and it will still remember that you want to get
Special:Notifications for every new comment that gets posted to this section. (It won't bother you about typo fixes or that sort of thing; for those, check your watchlist.)
If you click that link, or if visit
Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures and turn on "Discussion tools", you'll see a new little [reply]
button after each comment. When you click that, you get a little box to type your message in. It automatically signs your comments and counts all the ::::
colons for you. You can choose between visual and wikitext source modes; the source mode comes with a live preview of your message. Both versions let you type @
and get a list of editors who previously commented in this section, just in case you want to ping anyone.
During the last month, the [reply] tool has been used about 10,000 times here at the English Wikipedia. It's been used almost half a million times total, across all wikis since the beginning. The mw:Editing team is almost ready to offer this tool by default for all editors at the English Wikipedia. But I wanted to stop by and ask again:
NB that if you turn on the Beta Feature, you get [reply] plus the New Discussion tool plus [subscribe] plus (soon) some other things. Only the little [reply] tool is ready to be deployed to everyone. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 05:34, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
// compact "Reply" links
$( ".ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" ).text('💬');
[reply]
with [💬]
You can put whatever text or emoji you want where the 💬 is in the second line.
Whatamidoing (WMF) (
talk) 17:22, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
$( ".ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket" ).text('');
which loses the [ brackets ] and looks a little cleaner —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me 11:19, 19 November 2021 (UTC)__NOEDITSECTION__
(which includes any pages using the archive templates). --
Ahecht (
TALKFirst off, please tell me if this question belongs somewhere else. I wasn't sure on where to ask, so it's here.
There are some articles ( Among Us, *cough cough*), that make it so you can't even edit the talk page. I'm so confused on why this is because while it's limited to established users it still means people like me who aren't signed in can't do anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.116.194 ( talk) 20:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
It seems that the tracks from the crossover of CTA lines to Halsted St Station (near 26th st, demolished) still exists, and it is a part of Illini and Saluki's route.
PS: That means that St. Charles Air Line starts from the crossover of CTA lines and ends to Halsted Street station.-- Johnson.Xia ( talk) 00:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Some time ago, I raised the issue of pages with too much content, or markup. I worked to reduce the worst excesses. Some editors wiki-lawyered over the meaning of WP:TOOBIG, or argued that their pet pages wore somehow special exemptions.
I have just checked Special:LongPages again, and we now have 93 pages with over 400,000 bytes of markup, and 1756 with over 350,000 bytes.
For example, even my pretty punchy Dell XPS laptop is struggling to render 2021 in mammal paleontology, which has 290,852 bytes. Goodness knows how readers on mobile cope. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Regarding rendered size, the only thing that comes to mind is Category:Pages where post-expand include size is exceeded but I am not sure that "rendered size"="post-expand include size" ( Whatamidoing (WMF)) and of course it has a high threshold. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 10:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
I am currently stumbling through the Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia and I'm noticing many broken links therein. Is there a broken link checking tool that could be used on the page to, en mass, identify the broken links? Deicas ( talk) 04:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
Next week, on the 30th of November, the Wikimedia Foundation will be launching its annual fundraising banner campaign on English Wikipedia in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The campaign will run throughout December. I will be in touch again on the campaign start day and throughout December.
We are always looking for ways to improve our campaigns and appreciate your feedback regarding banner messages and design.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 11:23, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi all. I was reading File:Enwp retention vs active editors.png for some reason. Would we happen to have a more-recent version? I don't think the official statistics website tracks such a number. (Maybe the WMF Growth Team has it?) Enterprisey ( talk!) 08:28, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
WP:Long-term abuse has its uses, I've found a few of the pages there helpful at identifying socks, but beyond a certain point there's a genuine WP:BEANS issue with specific LTA pages. Over the last couple years I've blanked several of people who'd either died or gone inactive, since I saw a couple really lame copycats who clearly got ideas from LTA, and LTA isn't supposed to be a shrine to vandals. Plus, keeping unnecessary names and details there just makes it harder to find what you're looking for. Is there some way to put together a detailed review of what still belongs there and what can be blanked or deleted? The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい) 22:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
If you want the pages to only be accessible to admins, you could delete them? DS ( talk) 15:56, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I can't do this since the article is semi-protected, so I'm asking if any user could do it. Mikelsons' exclusion seems like a big hole in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.22.80.189 ( talk) 20:04, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello!
We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on 30 November (Tuesday), 18:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.
Agenda
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 20:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
We are launching the Wikimedia Foundation’s annual English banner fundraising campaign later today. This means that if you are not logged into your Wikipedia account and are based in Australia, Canada, Ireland, the UK, the US, or New Zealand, you will see our fundraising banners on Wikipedia. The campaign will be running throughout December but we may adjust impression rates or take the banners down at certain points in December. I will be in touch on a regular basis and provide you all with updates on the campaign and answer any questions that arise here or on the fundraising meta talk page. I am aiming at posting the first update on the 7th of December. In the meanwhile:
Thank you all very much for your support and understanding during the campaign and thank you for making Wikipedia an incredible resource for everyone.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 13:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
I feel like I've seen requests for this over the years, but the issue is always that it would be prohibitively expensive, API-wise, to have a bot emulating the effects of Special:Watchlist on user subpages. It occurred to me recently, though, that that wouldn't be the case if you just had a bot periodically update a given user subpage with links to pages they've edited recently; Special:RecentChangesLinked for that page would then function identically to a watchlist for those pages, meaning the bot wouldn't have to actually update on each edit. I got this idea after realizing I could use Special:RecentChangesLinked/User:Tamzin/spihelper log to track SPIs I've been involved in. This would be the same principle.
I'm bringing this up here at VPM, rather than VPT, because it's not really a question of how to make it. I already have an idea of how to code the bot in a manner that would pass BRFA, and can explain those details to anyone interested in doing it themself (since I won't have time to for a month or two, probably). What I'd like to know, though, is if this is something that the editor-base at large would be interested in. I know I'd use it, because I'm the kind of person who often checks their contribs and looks for ones that aren't "current", rather than using my watchlist, but I don't know how common a tendency that is. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 23:07, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Im came by here and want to ask about a question relating about questioning or objecting if it is correct or wrong on the edit that is once proper but then revert due to copyediting. 122.11.214.200 ( talk) 08:16, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Non-contextual words in a document resulted in a search result from google:
I notice that the overall daily pageviews have not exceeded the 250 million mark since 12 September. This is by far the longest period below that mark since the current stats began in 2015. They are still falling - 222 M for the 10th. Johnbod ( talk) 02:36, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
If one goes to Wikipedia: Requested articles, and clicks on the link "Biography", one will see that most of the names are in red wikilinks. However, today I made a request for an article on Scott Erickson, the visual artist. The link was in blue, because there are already articles on people with that name in Wikipedia. None of these, however, were on the person for whom I am requesting an article. Seeing the link in blue may have confused Wikipedians, as it may have led to people thinking there was already an article on the visual artist called Scott Erickson. How can we stop the problem of unintentional blue wikilinks at Wikipedia: Requested articles? YTKJ ( talk) 12:56, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
From my experience, iP's making certain edits are a lot more likely to be reverted than a well-established registered user in good standing making the same edits. This is unfair. Just because you're an IP doesn't mean drastic reformulations are bad, worse, incorrect or incomplete. -- 2A02:AA1:1009:3306:BDA3:4FD1:9B42:F7FD ( talk) 18:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
I’m not donating any more money until MF DOOM is spelled properly in all caps on his page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:1B84:AE00:D0EF:76C6:2CBE:7308 ( talk) 19:40, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
I’m kinda new here and wasn’t sure how to edit Rose Leslie‘s page correctly, so I decided to just let you guys know, that rose Leslie is also narrating in the audible audiobook: “Carmilla” by Sheridan Le Fanu. If I picked the wrong category to address the issue, please let me know where to point out things like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruby Glimmberg ( talk • contribs) 13:53, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
The first week of our English fundraising banner campaign is behind us and I would like to thank you all for your support and understanding. So far our campaign has run smoothly and we have been trying different messaging in all of our banners to see what resonates most with readers.
Several comments have been left both here and on the talk:fundraising page. We will post comments to those in the next few days.
Hear from the donors:
I am a guest lecturer on cruise ships and turn to Wikipedia for information on the ports and places so I can prepare my PowerPoints and presentations. Without access to Wikipedia my work would be so much harder. And you keep making it better, deeper and more intuitive. (donor from the US)
Yeah 2020 felt like the earths magnetic core finally flipped. I work in icu so I’ve seen more death than usual and you’d b surprised at how much we use Wikipedia for basic info to save lives. We know most stuff but once in awhile we like to refresh or just look up new meds that no one has heard of so in a way ur helping us help society. Thanks for all of it. (donor from the US)
Recently an article about my wife, [...], was put up. We are very, very grateful because she wanted to get a page. I had even started an account with the goal of writing the page when, lo and behold, it appeared one day, once more proving that if I just lay around the house like a no-good husband good things will still happen. We think this effort might be attributable to the Wiki Women in Red campaign." (donor from the US)
In the meanwhile:
Thank you all very much for your support and understanding during the campaign. I will be in touch again latest by the 22nd of December.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 07:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
I have donated but not on this device. I has a rather snippy tone I do not care to see after giving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.42.231.26 ( talk) 21:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
We currently have United States starts with the official name, as the United Kingdom, while having various countries or political-entities start with their common name first. I presume the rationale for full official name would be that the main article title at the top is already the common name, therefore new information takes precedency. However, I'd like to request community's opinion on this since it seems rather incoherent throughout the site. Lolitart ( talk) 10:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
the page title should be the subject of the first sentencebut
it may appear in a slightly different form. There are exceptions, such as MOS:FULLNAME for biographies, but I don't see one which applies here. Certes ( talk) 00:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi can someone please tell me why my edit on the page about the Fast & Furious film series was reverted? It doesn't really have to be a national movie with some of the same characters from the series to be considered a spin-off movie. Foreign remakes can also be considered spin-off movies. Take a look at this example: Step Up (franchise). There's a Chinese remake of this American film series named Step Up: Year of the Dance. It's a Chinese remake that doesn't have anything to do with the American films, but it's still considered a spin-off movie. Karamellpudding1999 ( talk) 07:52, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
I wanted to give you a quick update on our annual fundraiser. We have been seeing all your valuable feedback here as well as on our Fundraising Talk Page on Meta and very much appreciate it, in particular, your suggestions for improvement. There are quite a few aspects we would like to take forward and will do so in the next couple of days.
As of Friday, December 17th, 4pm PST (midnight UTC) we will be pausing our Annual Fund banners and we plan to come back with Endowment banners next week, Monday, December 20th. In the meantime, we are working on improvements based on the feedback we’ve received.
We hope that this will significantly lighten the burden of the volunteers who have been so patiently helping readers and donors across English Wikipedia. Thank you very much for all your work!
We will post another update on the campaign by mid-next week. Best wishes, Ppena (WMF) ( talk) 20:13, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
On meta:Talk:Fundraising, Elli floated the idea of an RfC to disable the fundraising banners. Is there interest in such an RfC? It would surely be difficult to get anything done quickly enough for it to matter, with Christmas looming; on the other hand, it might have symbolic value and be instructive even for many Wikipedians who are unaware of just how much the WMF's money demands have increased, and how much the perception created by the banners is at odds with the financial realities (I estimate the WMF currently has $350 million to $400 million in cash, short-term and long-term investments, including the Endowment. In 2020/2021, it had a roughly $50 million surplus of revenue over expenses, but still went to South American countries hard hit by Covid, saying it needed money.) -- Andreas JN 466 11:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
In progress here can mean under construction, running in office, etc. I want to use that to see what can I improve on the article SpaceX Starship - in-dev launch vehicle. The closer topic of the article to Starship the better, but I don't mind that too much. CactiStaccingCrane ( talk) 15:34, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Do we have any existing page (even an article) that explains how to write about statistics/percentages, and specifically a page that explains that "10% as likely" is not even remotely the same thing as "10% more likely"? WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
The Board of Trustees is preparing a call for feedback about the upcoming Board Elections, from January 7 - February 10, 2022.
While details will be finalized the week before the call, we have confirmed at least two questions that will be asked during this call for feedback:
While additional questions may be added, the Movement Strategy and Governance team wants to provide time for community members and affiliates to consider and prepare ideas on the confirmed questions before the call opens. We apologize for not having a complete list of questions at this time. The list of questions should only grow by one or two questions. The intention is to not overwhelm the community with requests, but provide notice and welcome feedback on these important questions.
Do you want to help organize local conversation during this Call?
Contact the Movement Strategy and Governance team on Meta, on Telegram, or via email at msgwikimedia.org.
Reach out if you have any questions or concerns. The Movement Strategy and Governance team will be minimally staffed until January 3. Please excuse any delayed response during this time. We also recognize some community members and affiliates are offline during the December holidays. We apologize if our message has reached you while you are on holiday.
Best,
Movement Strategy and Governance
Thank you. Xeno (WMF) ( talk) 20:12, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
We are entering the last phase of the English banner fundraising campaign and banners are scheduled to be removed from Wikipedia on the 31st of December. While we will have part of the fundraising team working through the end of the year, many of our colleagues, including me, are taking time off between now and the first weeks of January. Please bear with us as we reply to any questions or comments here or on the fundraising meta talk page in mid-January.
Some updates on the banners:
Last week, we lowered the number of banners a reader/IP address sees from 10 banners to 6. Banners are no longer shown for people who have already donated, closed a banner, or seen 6 banners. We are currently showing banners on less than half of the eligible pageviews in the campaign countries for these reasons. Banners are not being shown to logged in readers, as has been the set up for many years. We are planning to disable banners from the 23rd to the 27th of December. Similar to past years, we will run our final end of year reminder with the Endowment banners, between December 27th through the 31st.
The team has received valuable feedback from volunteers during the campaign. One suggestion was to include a message on the confirmation donor thank you page about how to disable banners across multiple devices. We are currently monitoring the response to this new message on the page. Thank you for this great idea to improve the reading experience for our donors. We have also adjusted banner messaging (e.g. removed the sentence including the number of fundraising banners we’ve shown). The team continues to incorporate feedback and work on improvements for our donors in the last few days we have left of the campaign.
At this time of year, we receive thousands of notes from readers and donors. Please take a look at a few of these notes:
My £21 donation to Wiki P.
so learning's available for folks like me
Includes the 80p admin fee.
With appreciation to you Jimm ee…
(Donor from the UK)
Just wanted to let you know that I increased my donation from a one-time donation to a monthly donation based on your team. After making my initial donation, I asked how I could avoid being asked again each time I accessed your site. I received a quick and very helpful response, to which I replied with a thank you, and received a follow up “glad we could help” message. Now I know you don’t just provide a great website, but great customer service. And great customer service is a rarity these days! Thank you, Wikipedia, and Happy Holidays to you and your staff
(Donor from the US)
Thank you for your kind words of gratitude for such a small donation.
I do look up Wikipedia from time to time and it would be a real shame not to have this wonderful resource available at our fingertips.
What a legacy you have created, founding Wikipedia 20 years ago. I hope you and your staff enjoy your 20th year celebration and I hope there are many more years to come.
You should be very proud of your and your staffs achievements.
(Donor from Australia)
In the meanwhile:
Thank you all very much for your support and understanding during the campaign. We realise there has been pressure on volunteers monitoring the Teahouse and the Helpdesk these past weeks and we are very thankful to all of you who patiently responded to donor questions, complaints, and feedback.
I will be in touch again briefly at the start of January.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 13:56, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey look, another bunch of people paying the WMF and thanking Wikipedia. It's almost as if they believe that the banners they see on Wikipedia go directly to fund Wikipedia, and not to fund the organisation behind it which does many, many things, some of them even beneficial for Wikipedia! And of course, all of them believing that their donations are needed to keep Wikipedia running. As if... Fram ( talk) 14:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi all.
I guess there is some deadlock on the talk page of List of Taiwanese inventions and discoveries. We need some help especially editors who are familiar with Political status of Taiwan.
In brief, an editor added Bopomofo in the list for its inventor is a citizen of Republic of China, which is formally named Taiwan. However, some Taiwanese editor don't agree the editing because Bopomofo was published in 1918 while Taiwan is still under the rule of Japan. The inventor of Bopomofo is not a Taiwanese yet, though he came to Taiwan with the government of Republic of China in 1949. We think the definition of "Taiwanese" is better if only included citizen of Republic of China since 1945 or 1949 (more similar as the definition of article Taiwanese people, or it could make some problem (for example, if Mao Zedong invited something before 1949, that would be a Taiwanese invention). But the original editor like since 1912 more because he thinks the ROC which is named Taiwan also today is the same country as the ROC before. Now that a citizen of ROC today is Taiwanese, it no reason to a citizen of ROC before 1945 can't be seen as a Taiwanese.
The same debate also happen on Chinese Wikipedia. A third part editor renamed (moved) the article to "List of inventions and discoveries of Taiwan in post-war period" then ended the debate. However I understand there are different rule between Wikipedia in different languages, maybe it not work in here. However, to ask some third part opinion may be helpful.-- Reke ( talk) 07:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey folks! Sharing here a discussion on the List of most expensive artworks by living artists, specifically at Talk:List_of_most_expensive_artworks_by_living_artists#RfC:_Categorizing_NFT_sales_in_the_list_of_most_expensive_artworks_by_living_artists. Working through the question of whether NTFs (or NFT art) should be included in this list. If anyone has thoughts or comments, would appreciate additional input! SiliconRed ( talk) 22:08, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear all,
The English fundraising campaign banners came down yesterday and are now no longer shown for non logged in users. We would like to thank all of you for your support, patience and understanding during the last month.
It is thanks to your support that we are able to sustain Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects.
Many of our colleagues will be taking the next week off so any questions you might post here or on the fundraising meta talk page will not be answered until mid-January.
Thank you again.
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 10:09, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Anyone want to tackle nominating this category and its sub-categories for deletion as Wikipedia:Overcategorization when there is already Category:Living people and xxxx births. Thanks. -- Bamyers99 ( talk) 22:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
incategory:"living people"
to find biographies which should be BLP compliant. All current subcategories of
Category:Living people by year were created yesterday by
Jph, apparently without a discussion. That seems a little too bold for something that would require around a million new categorizations if applied to all of
Category:Living people.
PrimeHunter (
talk) 15:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)Done Nominated: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 2#Category:Living people by year -- Bamyers99 ( talk) 19:27, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
See Special:Diff/1063886411. Simply removing a } will delete the tag from the article without the abuse filter noticing.
This is a bugfix request not a tip to other editors, I can't find where to report bugs and it isn't really that related to WMF so I'm putting it here. Anpang01 ( talk) 12:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
I'd like to have a comprehensive directory of things a new wikipedian could get involved in if they want to do more than just write content but don't know what's available or needed. I started User:RoySmith/How can I help?, but I don't want to invest a lot of effort if it's just duplicating something that already exists. Please feel free to add entries, and if this ever reaches any kind of critical mass, I'll move it into WP space. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2022 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.
You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.
You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.
Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.
Kind regards,
Wiki loves Folklore International Team
-- MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:14, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
I organized with two colleagues the wikicontest of the Month Oceania ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Mois_oc%C3%A9anien_Wikip%C3%A9dia/2021) on the French version of wikipedia which took place in December 2021. It is now over. I would like to know if a Wikipedian living in a country in Oceania would agree to send from his country of residence, postcards in the colors of the competition. It would be a nice nod to the three competition winners who will soon be named. All the costs of printing these postcards and sending them will be covered by the Wikimedia France association. Concretely, the Wikipedian would receive in his mailbox the postcards already printed. He would just have to write the address on the back, place a stamp there that he would buy and then drop them off at the post office. The purchase of stamps for France or any other country of residence of the winners would of course be reimbursed.
Would anyone be interested?
-- Girart de Roussillon ( talk) 22:17, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
So my question is basically for my understanding of what metadata means that means the right to violate privacy then I give us a company or organization government whoever the right to violate someone's privacy am I correct to assume have to excuse me my phone is not acting correctly but obviously been Meta Meta data didn't know that I was being mad at it but anyways and I know more enjoy your most people know don't know that they're being actually violated from their privacy but anyways is that's what this means metadata can somebody please answer that for me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:447:C000:4F50:6532:B7A1:B6D9:A641 ( talk) 04:49, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Please help translate to other languages.
Greetings! You are invited to participate in Feminism and Folklore 2022 writing competion. This year Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women biographies and gender-focused topics for the project in league with Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus with folk culture theme on Wikipedia.
You can help us in enriching the folklore documentation on Wikipedia from your region by creating or improving articles focused on folklore around the world, including, but not limited to folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer personalities in folklore, folk culture (folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales and more. You can contribute to new articles or translate from the list of suggested articles here.
You can also support us in organizing the contest on your local Wikipedia by signing up your community to participate in this project and also translating the project page and help us spread the word in your native language.
Learn more about the contest and prizes from our project page. Feel free to contact us on our talk page or via Email if you need any assistance...
Thank you.
Feminism and Folklore Team,
Tiven2240 --05:49, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
I've been impressed by this website which takes IPA (e.g. /ˈbɜːrmɪŋəm/) as input, and pronounces it. Could we do something similar? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I spend a lot of time on Wikipediaso they might be amenable to helping us out, but the tool relies on Amazon Polly, which I doubt is open source. Still probably worth reaching out to see what they say. Cheers, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 20:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I've created a task for this topic, at Phabricator. Link above. Please feel free to add useful notes or links, etc, there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:06, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Its name was The Quest and it was a retro pixel game with the icon resembling a pixelated knight holding a sword upwards. I really need a link or something. It was a really fun game (For me at least) and I have seen no articles so if anyone knows ANYTHING about this please edit a reply, I want to make a wiki for The Quest but I need more information then I already know. I think there was more than one character in the game. LeggoMyEggoNOW ( talk) 20:08, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
The Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is now open!
This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 23 January, or comment on other proposals to help make them better.
The communities will vote on the proposals between 28 January and 11 February.
The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals! SGrabarczuk (WMF) ( talk) 18:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Voting Planning Development work
Voting Planning Development work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdnwhDAdrxE&t=2173s -- RoySmith (talk) 00:05, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
I just discovered Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green recently, which I think is an awesome thing to have, a WikiProject dedicated specifically to article improvement, and a cool bookend to Women in Red which is dedicated to creating new articles. Does anyone know of any other WikiProjects dedicated specifically to improving other types of articles? Should there be more like this one to cover other areas? I could see how it would be great to have places to go for people looking for a project, and maybe have ones like History, Math/Science/Medicine, Sports, Popular culture, etc. BOZ ( talk) 13:37, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I can see that spin-off films are listed in the List of film series articles, just look here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Is it correct to list spin-off films there? Althrough a spin-off film is a part of the franchise, it's not a part of the film series. It's a standalone movie in the same franchise as the film series. Karamellpudding1999 ( talk) 08:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello,
There is a user on Wikibooks looking for assistance from a Wikipedia administrator regarding an IP block.
Their request can be found on Wikibooks:Reading room/Assistance.
I figured I'd ask on their behalf, since they've tried a few different things and the issue is apparently unresolved. -- Mbrickn ( talk) 22:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)