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The "Mongol invasions" of the "Islamosphere" is missing from this article.
The Mongol invader were deciples of Vajrayana Buddhism and their invasions devastated the "Muslim World".
Muslim response to the "Crusade" is missing.
Muslim response to "Zionist" Jewish community is also missing. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
There are missing passages about the tensions between the Arab and the "Ajam".
Missing passages about incidents of tension between the Sunni, Shia and Ibadi. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:29, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
The image of the economist Muhammad Yunus should be removed for he isn't an advocate of the Islamosphere, but rather a person of intellect. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
This article should only contain images or passages of Islam related to "antiquity" and not:
images inspired by cosmic phenomenon or reality in human terms. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Shia Muslims make up 28% of Muslims in Turkey? Where are the ref or sources? Even 47% Shias in Yemen seem exaggerated Nlivataye ( talk) 12:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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Paragraph about Muslims in the world 2001:16A2:4427:E100:2431:4598:5A0B:3F82 ( talk) 12:33, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Syria and Lebanon does not fit to the context as state religion in their Constitutions, I believe the term that would be right for them is "other" since they nowhere fit as secular states, nor Islamic states, or state religion. The world atlas reported 4 types of government and religion in which countries that does not fit to Islamic states, state religion, or secular states, will be counted as a distinct one. This is the case for Tunisia aswell, though it plans to abolish Islam as their state religion, they will still require the president to be Muslim by law. https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/factbox-whats-tunisias-proposed-new-constitution-2022-07-01/ Jeremy Kusumatmadja ( talk) 04:32, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
not endorse Islam as the state religionwhen its constitution states that Islamic jurisprudence shall be a major source of legislation, and the law prohibits conversion from Islam?
requiring the President to be of a certain religionnot any religion: the president is required to be a Muslim. M.Bitton ( talk) 11:24, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
prohibits religious discrimination, the establishment of a state religion, and religiously based political parties.How can a Country have a state Religion, when the Constitution of the Country bans the establishment of state Religion itself. Now can I put back the Gambia on the List of Secular states by the current references provided? Jeremy Kusumatmadja ( talk) 12:23, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Secular Muslim Majority Countries. The Constitution of the Gambia also did not mention that Gambia is Islamic State, it's even state the parliament can not pass a bill to establish certain religion as state religion (article 100.2.b).
State religionas it didn't aligned with the listed source. Ckfasdf ( talk) 03:45, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
the claim that Gambia is a secular state that needs to be substantiated (using Gambia's constitution and official sources), the claim that Gambia is a state religion should also substantiated (using Gambia's constitution and official sources). And if we look up Constitution of Gambia, while no explicit mention that Gambia is a secular state, article 100.2.b explicitly states
The National Assembly shall not pass a Bill to establish any religion as a state religion. Ckfasdf ( talk) 21:09, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Islamic jurisprudence shall be a major source of legislation, which put heavy emphasis in Islam. So, I think Syria still can be considered as State Religion. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:24, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Lebanon is a democratic parliamentary republic based upon the respect of public freedoms, freedom of opinion and freedom of belief; and of social justice and equality in rights and duties among all citizens, without distinction or preference.. It does have distribution of power governed by National Pact, which states its president is always Maronite Christians and its premiership is always Sunni Muslims. But, that should not justify Lebanon as state religion. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:38, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
The Gambia is a Sovereign Secular Republic. Ckfasdf ( talk) 22:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
The redirect The Muslim World has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 24 § The Muslim World until a consensus is reached. – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 18:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Do you agree in the context of the above statement critically discuss how timbuktu was a model city that development in songhai 41.113.117.21 ( talk) 08:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Ref 321 in the current version of the article, used in two places, is "Madden (1975), pp. 423–30". However, nowhere in the article is a full citation given. This seems to go back some way in the article history. A search on Google Books restricted to the year 1975 doesn't find anything for Madden Islam. Any help is welcome in finding the full citation for this source. MartinPoulter ( talk) 17:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
The same applies to ref. 300 "Turner, H. (1997) pp. 136–38", ref. 307 "Maya Shatzmiller, p. 36." and ref. 310 "Ettinghausen (2003), p. 3", . No citations are given for these books in the present version of the article. MartinPoulter ( talk) 16:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Well, that's been a very long dive into the article history. On 25 February 2007, in this edit, a user added a large block of text. Looking into their contribution record, it emerges that they were moving the text from this version of the Islam article. They copied the whole section with inline refs, but missed out the full citations at the foot of the article. So I've been able to supply citations for Madden (1975), Turner, H. (1997) and Ettinghausen (2003). Still looking for the Maya Shatzmiller ref. The citations are still incomplete and could benefit from web links and other identifiers. MartinPoulter ( talk) 21:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
The "Maya Shatzmiller, p. 36." ref was added [in this edit]. I found a Maya Shatzmiller book about Labour in Medieval Islamic World, on Google Books and it said that (though not on p36) that tiraz were not really factories: the opposite of what it's used in the article to support. Whatever the truth, the citation is just inadequate, so I've deleted the clause and its citation from the article. MartinPoulter ( talk) 19:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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change Nine Islamic States to Eight, as Turkey does NOT have a state religion. Change from 21 to 22 Secular countries, adding Turkey 82.215.111.75 ( talk) 23:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
In 1900 Muslims only numbered 200 million followers or 12% of the world population. This percentage drastically increased over the last 100 years due to higher birth rate in Muslim majority countries. [1] [2] Pew Research have estimated the number will be around 2.2 billion in 2030 and 2.8 billion, or 30 percent of world population, in 2050. [3] [4]
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Manticore could you clarify why you deleted this sentences in a different reason;
First you claimed it was out of topic, poor written (it could targetted non English contributors) or WP:CRYSTAL (but in Religion Growth Population had cited Pew Research estimated).
QalasQalas ( talk) 11:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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I dont agree with since the number of people who embrace Islam and those who leave Islam are roughly equal the evidence is from 2011 and new reasearch says that the people who leave islam are 25% less than the people entering islam JNext55 ( talk) 21:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Why is Turkey listed as an Islamic State in the "Government and religion" category? Islam hasn't been the official religion of Turkey since 1928. Even though the current President (Erdoğan) is an Islamist, the Constitution of Turkey still declares Turkey to be Secular. It should be moved back to Secular State, before the vandalism on the page. 142.67.89.165 ( talk) 00:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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Move Turkey to secular states to fix vandalism, possibly remove edit rights of repeat vandals. ElementLover ( talk) 10:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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change Nine Islamic States to Eight, as Turkey does NOT have a state religion. Change from 21 to 22 Secular countries, adding Turkey. (Sorry for not following the format in the previous request, new around here, sources that are currently added for Turkey support the change I am proposing, no need for new sources). ElementLover ( talk) 10:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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The "Mongol invasions" of the "Islamosphere" is missing from this article.
The Mongol invader were deciples of Vajrayana Buddhism and their invasions devastated the "Muslim World".
Muslim response to the "Crusade" is missing.
Muslim response to "Zionist" Jewish community is also missing. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
There are missing passages about the tensions between the Arab and the "Ajam".
Missing passages about incidents of tension between the Sunni, Shia and Ibadi. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:29, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
The image of the economist Muhammad Yunus should be removed for he isn't an advocate of the Islamosphere, but rather a person of intellect. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
This article should only contain images or passages of Islam related to "antiquity" and not:
images inspired by cosmic phenomenon or reality in human terms. 137.59.221.36 ( talk) 15:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Shia Muslims make up 28% of Muslims in Turkey? Where are the ref or sources? Even 47% Shias in Yemen seem exaggerated Nlivataye ( talk) 12:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Greetings,
Adequate and nuanced overview for even non– Muslim audience is expected out of the articles Muslims and Muslim world. Whether the articles are achieving that purpose adequately? Requesting and expecting proactive participation in providing inputs from non–Muslim audience too along with Muslim users.
Since the article Muslim world is tagged various improvements it can not be submitted to formal review process still I feel the article deserves more inputs for content improvement.
Requesting your visit to the articles
Thanks
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' ( talk) 06:25, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Paragraph about Muslims in the world 2001:16A2:4427:E100:2431:4598:5A0B:3F82 ( talk) 12:33, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Syria and Lebanon does not fit to the context as state religion in their Constitutions, I believe the term that would be right for them is "other" since they nowhere fit as secular states, nor Islamic states, or state religion. The world atlas reported 4 types of government and religion in which countries that does not fit to Islamic states, state religion, or secular states, will be counted as a distinct one. This is the case for Tunisia aswell, though it plans to abolish Islam as their state religion, they will still require the president to be Muslim by law. https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/factbox-whats-tunisias-proposed-new-constitution-2022-07-01/ Jeremy Kusumatmadja ( talk) 04:32, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
not endorse Islam as the state religionwhen its constitution states that Islamic jurisprudence shall be a major source of legislation, and the law prohibits conversion from Islam?
requiring the President to be of a certain religionnot any religion: the president is required to be a Muslim. M.Bitton ( talk) 11:24, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
prohibits religious discrimination, the establishment of a state religion, and religiously based political parties.How can a Country have a state Religion, when the Constitution of the Country bans the establishment of state Religion itself. Now can I put back the Gambia on the List of Secular states by the current references provided? Jeremy Kusumatmadja ( talk) 12:23, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Secular Muslim Majority Countries. The Constitution of the Gambia also did not mention that Gambia is Islamic State, it's even state the parliament can not pass a bill to establish certain religion as state religion (article 100.2.b).
State religionas it didn't aligned with the listed source. Ckfasdf ( talk) 03:45, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
the claim that Gambia is a secular state that needs to be substantiated (using Gambia's constitution and official sources), the claim that Gambia is a state religion should also substantiated (using Gambia's constitution and official sources). And if we look up Constitution of Gambia, while no explicit mention that Gambia is a secular state, article 100.2.b explicitly states
The National Assembly shall not pass a Bill to establish any religion as a state religion. Ckfasdf ( talk) 21:09, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Islamic jurisprudence shall be a major source of legislation, which put heavy emphasis in Islam. So, I think Syria still can be considered as State Religion. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:24, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Lebanon is a democratic parliamentary republic based upon the respect of public freedoms, freedom of opinion and freedom of belief; and of social justice and equality in rights and duties among all citizens, without distinction or preference.. It does have distribution of power governed by National Pact, which states its president is always Maronite Christians and its premiership is always Sunni Muslims. But, that should not justify Lebanon as state religion. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:38, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
The Gambia is a Sovereign Secular Republic. Ckfasdf ( talk) 22:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
The redirect The Muslim World has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 24 § The Muslim World until a consensus is reached. – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 18:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Do you agree in the context of the above statement critically discuss how timbuktu was a model city that development in songhai 41.113.117.21 ( talk) 08:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Ref 321 in the current version of the article, used in two places, is "Madden (1975), pp. 423–30". However, nowhere in the article is a full citation given. This seems to go back some way in the article history. A search on Google Books restricted to the year 1975 doesn't find anything for Madden Islam. Any help is welcome in finding the full citation for this source. MartinPoulter ( talk) 17:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
The same applies to ref. 300 "Turner, H. (1997) pp. 136–38", ref. 307 "Maya Shatzmiller, p. 36." and ref. 310 "Ettinghausen (2003), p. 3", . No citations are given for these books in the present version of the article. MartinPoulter ( talk) 16:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Well, that's been a very long dive into the article history. On 25 February 2007, in this edit, a user added a large block of text. Looking into their contribution record, it emerges that they were moving the text from this version of the Islam article. They copied the whole section with inline refs, but missed out the full citations at the foot of the article. So I've been able to supply citations for Madden (1975), Turner, H. (1997) and Ettinghausen (2003). Still looking for the Maya Shatzmiller ref. The citations are still incomplete and could benefit from web links and other identifiers. MartinPoulter ( talk) 21:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
The "Maya Shatzmiller, p. 36." ref was added [in this edit]. I found a Maya Shatzmiller book about Labour in Medieval Islamic World, on Google Books and it said that (though not on p36) that tiraz were not really factories: the opposite of what it's used in the article to support. Whatever the truth, the citation is just inadequate, so I've deleted the clause and its citation from the article. MartinPoulter ( talk) 19:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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change Nine Islamic States to Eight, as Turkey does NOT have a state religion. Change from 21 to 22 Secular countries, adding Turkey 82.215.111.75 ( talk) 23:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
In 1900 Muslims only numbered 200 million followers or 12% of the world population. This percentage drastically increased over the last 100 years due to higher birth rate in Muslim majority countries. [1] [2] Pew Research have estimated the number will be around 2.2 billion in 2030 and 2.8 billion, or 30 percent of world population, in 2050. [3] [4]
Argued by @
Humanise
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Manticore could you clarify why you deleted this sentences in a different reason;
First you claimed it was out of topic, poor written (it could targetted non English contributors) or WP:CRYSTAL (but in Religion Growth Population had cited Pew Research estimated).
QalasQalas ( talk) 11:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Welcome to Gboard clipboard, any text you copy will be saved here.  37.111.137.144 ( talk) 14:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I dont agree with since the number of people who embrace Islam and those who leave Islam are roughly equal the evidence is from 2011 and new reasearch says that the people who leave islam are 25% less than the people entering islam JNext55 ( talk) 21:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Why is Turkey listed as an Islamic State in the "Government and religion" category? Islam hasn't been the official religion of Turkey since 1928. Even though the current President (Erdoğan) is an Islamist, the Constitution of Turkey still declares Turkey to be Secular. It should be moved back to Secular State, before the vandalism on the page. 142.67.89.165 ( talk) 00:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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Move Turkey to secular states to fix vandalism, possibly remove edit rights of repeat vandals. ElementLover ( talk) 10:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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change Nine Islamic States to Eight, as Turkey does NOT have a state religion. Change from 21 to 22 Secular countries, adding Turkey. (Sorry for not following the format in the previous request, new around here, sources that are currently added for Turkey support the change I am proposing, no need for new sources). ElementLover ( talk) 10:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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