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The result was speedy delete. Per A7 and G11. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 10:58, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Defunct company, no notability. The only references within the article are to the dead website of the company. No coverage in independent sources. DferDaisy ( talk) 23:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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A non-notable recording by a notable artist. AllMusic lists it but has no info: https://www.allmusic.com/album/all-is-well-songs-for-christmas-walmart-exclusive-mw0001901307 I can't find any RSes that discuss the album. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 22:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 01:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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No evidence of any notability. The refs are trivial and unreliable. Fails WP:GNG   Velella   Velella Talk   21:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Firdaus Ramadhan (footballer, born 1993)

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Does not meet WP:BLP, WP:GNG, WP:NFOOTY as he didn't play in the top division (note: PSBL is in top division only in 2012 and he is anyway playing not in first team but U-23). Do not confuse with Firdaus Ramadhan Quek157 ( talk) 19:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 00:54, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Parent rogic theorem

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This appears to be a hoax. The cited publication by Parent and Rogic does not exist, and there are no references to this theorem or its supposed authors anywhere online. There is a Kevin Paul Parent at McGill, but he teaches accounting. CataracticPlanets ( talk) 18:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Cyrillization of chemical nomenclature

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The Cyrillization system outlined in the article is completely unsourced original research, and may in fact be entirely fraudulent/a hoax, as two different editors have pointed out on the article's talk page. The previous AfD was closed as Keep because it was bundled together with several other articles on Cyrillization which were deemed useful. So, resubmitting this on its own for comment. CataracticPlanets ( talk) 18:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Remo (band)

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Nominating as non-notable musical act. Half the citations are for the band's own website, and the chart history citations lead to a completely empty chart history on Billboard. In fact, the only Google result I get for "Remo the First Album" is for a Wikia page, presumably set up by the band itself. Firebag237 ( talk) 18:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:56, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

National Rural Touring Forum

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This article was created by a representative of the event's ticket agency. All sources are churnalism, PR pieces reprinted uncritically. No evidence it meets WP:GNG. Aside: as part of its target audience, I have never even heard of it. Guy ( Help!) 18:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

This appears to be exactly the sort of advertisement masquerading as something else ("... not identifiable as advertising to consumers ...", likely to "... mislead consumers into believing [it is] independent, impartial, or not from the sponsoring advertiser itself ...") that is considered "deceptive" – and thus illegal – in the United States under rules laid down by the Federal Trade Commission. Wikimedia projects are governed by American law. We do not tolerate promotion of any kind, and we certainly cannot tolerate promotion that may be illegal.
Oh, and it does not come close to satisfying the requirements of WP:NCORP. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 19:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Justlettersandnumbers: The creator of the article properly discloses the employer, both in the username and on the user page. This isn't a case of an undisclosed paid editor.
Not exactly, Anachronist – the user has disclosed a connection, but at the same time seems to be trying to maintain that he is not a paid editor. See for example "Those not familiar with how Sponsorship works, we are in fact giving the Fringe money while still doing voluntary work like keeping up this page". I suggest that that is considerably less than fully transparent. But yes, you're right, there's been some disclosure; I've changed "undisclosed" to "incompletely disclosed" in my post above. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The first line of his userpage says "Employee at Ticketsource". That is sufficient disclosure. Whether he wants to make contradictory statements is beside the point; the disclosure has been made. Ticktsource (the organization) may be doing voluntary work for Cardiff Fringe; that's irrelevant. He's a paid employee, editing within his area of interest, as directed by his employer. ~ Anachronist ( talk) 21:06, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The fact that Wikipedia is not an advertising platform, and the fact that being written by a PR means there is no non-spam version to roll back to. Hence WP:TNT. Guy ( Help!) 07:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Cardiff Fringe

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Created by a COI editor representing the ticket vendor, no credible assertion of meeting WP:GNG, the few sources are churnalism and teh googles provide nothing better. Guy ( Help!) 17:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC) Guy ( Help!) 17:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:53, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Center for Wilderness Safety

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Unsourced and per WP:DEL#8 and WP:DEL#14 ( WP:NOTDIRECTORY). I had added PROD to the article which was endorsed by John from Idegon stating that it had been deleted twice before. PROD was removed by GiantSnowman due to the article being "previously deleted by this method, needs to go to WP:AFD". So I've added the article here. Steven (Editor) ( talk) 17:46, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Fraser Tolmie

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WP:BLP, referenced only to his own primary source profile on the city government's own website with no evidence of reliable source coverage about him shown, of a person notable only as mayor of a city with a population of just 33K. This is not large enough to hand a mayor an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL #2 just because he exists -- at this size of city, a mayor needs to be more notable than the norm, such as by having an unusual volume and range and depth of more than just local media coverage or by also passing NPOL #1 for having served in the provincial or federal legislatures. (Every other past mayor of Moose Jaw who actually has a Wikipedia article got it for that latter reason, rather than getting it because mayor per se.) Simply being a mayor of a small city is not an automatic guarantee of a Wikipedia article in and of itself, but I can't find any evidence of the nationalized coverage it would take to make him a special case. Bearcat ( talk) 17:46, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Notability for Wikipedia's purposes is not measured by how many people might have heard of him — notability lives or dies on the depth of reliable source coverage about him in media that can be shown to support an article. "Not promotional" is very definitely not all that an article has to be to get kept: what it has to be is well-referenced to sources that get him over WP:GNG. Bearcat ( talk) 14:18, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Adiken

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PROD removed with "suggest merge instead". There is no cited info to merge. Searching indicates this company existed from 2002-2006 when operations ceased. Certainly not enough coverage for WP:NCORP MB 17:11, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete this ministub has not been expanded or referenced since it was created in 2006, nothing referenced to merge. If someone wants to write a properly sourced article suggest they can go through AFC and they would deserve the full creator credit 19:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Enigma msg 01:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Mursal Zulfikar (footballer)

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I can't find verification that this footballer has played a game in a professional league per WP:NFOOTY. ... discospinster talk 16:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Reza Fahlevi

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I can't find verification that this footballer has played a game in a professional league per WP:NFOOTY. See, e.g., this database. ... discospinster talk 16:43, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 01:11, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Luis Raul Gomez

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Non-notable MMA fighter - not even close to meeting WP:NMMA PRehse ( talk) 16:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Alfred Khashakyan

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No evidence of any notability. Appears to be a run-of-the-mill mixed martial arts contender who hasn't yet got into the top flight. Fails WP:NMMA   Velella   Velella Talk   15:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Consensus is that there are enough reliable sources to pass WP:GNG Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:46, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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No decent coverage in reliable sources other than a reproduction of a PR-piece, originally published in TOI concerned mainly with it's MBA-school-ranking-list.Hindu Business-Line and Medianama are almost-always typical PR-stuff. ~ Winged Blades Godric 08:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Gekko (optimization software)

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I found no substantial and independent coverage of this software to meet WP:GNG, once I excluded from a Google search a couple of phrases shared in common on a number of websites (suggesting promotional copy) and a mining company in Canada. Largoplazo ( talk) 15:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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Are the editors willing to consider other sources besides Google? Gekko publications have a longer history of publication in the scientific (rigorously peer-reviewed) literature. The Gekko name was not used during the development of the software (similar to how Intel has a different name for chips when in development than in production). The NSF Award page ( https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1547110) gives several references:

  • Eaton, A.N., Beal, L., Thorpe, S., Hubbell, C., Hedengren, J.D., Nybø, R., Aghito, M.. "Real Time Model Identification Using Multi-Fidelity Models in Managed Pressure Drilling," Computers and Chemical Engineering, v.97, 2017, p. 76. doi:10.1016/j.compchemeng.2016.11.008
  • Beal, L., Clark, J., Anderson, M., Warnick, S., Hedengren, J.D.. "Combined Scheduling and Control with Diurnal Constraints and Costs using a Discrete Time Formulation," FOCAPO / CPC 2017, 2017.
  • Beal, L., Park, J., Petersen, D., Warnick, S., Hedengren, J.D.. "Combined Model Predictive Control and Scheduling with Dominant Time Constant Compensation," Computers & Chemical Engineering, v.104, 2017. doi:10.1016/j.compchemeng.2017.04.024
  • Beal, L.D., Petersen D., Pila G., Davis, B., Warnick, S., and Hedengren, J.D.. "Economic Benefit from Progressive Integration of Scheduling and Control for Continuous Chemical Processes," Processes, v.5, 2017. doi:10.3390/pr5040084
  • Mojica, J.L., Petersen, D.J., Hansen, B., Powell, K.M., Hedengren, J.D.. "Optimal Combined Long-Term Facility Design and Short-Term Operational Strategy for CHP Capacity Investments," Energy, v.118, 2017. doi:10.1016/j.energy.2016.12.009
  • Petersen, D., Beal, L.D., Prestwich D., Warnick, S., and Hedengren, J. D.. "Combined Noncyclic Scheduling and Advanced Control for Continuous Chemical Processes," Processes, v.5, 2017. doi:10.3390/pr5040083
  • Udy, J., Blackburn, L., Hedengren, J.D., Darby, M.. "Reduced Order Modeling for Reservoir Injection Optimization and Forecasting," FOCAPO / CPC 2017, Tuscon, AZ, 2017.

Additional references are more recent:

  • Beal, L.D., Petersen, D., Grimsman, D., Warnick, S., Hedengren, J.D., Integrated Scheduling and Control in Discrete-time with Dynamic Parameters and Constraints, Computers & Chemical Engineering, 2018. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.compchemeng.2018.04.010
  • Hedengren, J.D., Brower, D.V., Wilson J.C., High, G., Witherow, K., New Flow Assurance System With High Speed Subsea Fiber Optic Monitoring Of Pressure And Temperature, Symposium 4 Pipelines, Risers, and Subsea Systems, ASME 37th International Conference on Ocean, Offshore and Arctic Engineering, OMAE2018/78079, Madrid, Spain, June 2018.

Logan Beal (Gekko creator) and I were editors on a new special issue book that was recently published that highlights developments in this area from multiple contributors:

A few additional contributions may appear soon but are currently under peer review or development:

The notability will continue to improve as additional independent articles are published. The peer review process and publication can take a while for any new contribution but it is currently on track to have a substantial body of references by the end of 2018. Perhaps this would be a better target for creating a new Gekko page on Wikipedia but it seems that there are many other Wikipedia articles in this area that have many fewer citations. See, for example, many of the software packages that are listed in the Mathematical Optimization Software list at the bottom of the Gekko (optimization software) page on Wikipedia. I understand that new articles need additional scrutiny but the Gekko article is clearly ahead of many of those that already exist in terms of citations in the academic literature. I will update the Gekko article to include additional citations to meet the notability requirements.

Jhedengren ( talk) 01:57, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Publications about a product by the people whose product it is aren't independent sources and, therefore, contribute nothing to a finding of notability. Also, the fact that a product has users is not an indication of notability, just as the fact that a business has customers, and lists them, isn't an indication of notability. Establishing notability for this encyclopedia isn't like establishing one's credentials for marketing, in grant applications, or for the benefit of organizers and attendees at conferences at which one hopes to present. Largoplazo ( talk) 02:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
I appreciate this discussion and your insights. The package was publicly released in 2018 and the adoption and peer review process is generally slow. One additional example of notability of Gekko is that it is used for advanced control education modules in the Temperature Control Lab (Google search: temperature tclab) that is used by many universities and individuals. The number of users suggests that additional independent publications are forthcoming, to further strengthen the notability. It is understandable that these are discounted because these specific references are not yet citable. My point is that Gekko is gaining significant notability in industry and academia and it will likely have many more citations in the near future, especially because it is free and open-source with novel capabilities.
However, I believe that Gekko already has sufficient independent sources to establish notability. One thing to clarify is that I'm the developer of APMonitor, not Gekko. Logan Beal developed Gekko and it is his product although I am his research advisor. Logan is completing his PhD studies and will be joining a company later this year. I suggest that article sources that don't list Logan are independent of the product developer, especially those where I am not the principal author. The common outcomes for page deletion listed in WP:COMPOUTCOMES suggests that "programming languages are usually kept, additionally, if they are well-cited in peer-reviewed computer science literature". However, the justification for this Gekko page deletion is lack of Google search results. I propose that (1) this page deletion request be removed or (2) the deletion request is delayed and then the deletion request removed when additional independent citations are added in a couple months. I respect the decision of the editors if this page is deemed not sufficiently notable and will be glad to add the page again when additional citations are added and notability is strengthened. Jhedengren ( talk) 14:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Let me clarify: You are not an independent source. As for expectations of future coverage, you are correct in your assessment that when the time comes, then it will be time. Please see WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. Largoplazo ( talk) 14:37, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
It seems that your quip on your user page sums up your qualifications for notability: "If Google returns fewer results for you than it does for me, you probably aren't notable. :-P". I'm not sure how many Google search results are returned for your name, but I think it is a mistake to ignore a significant body of peer-reviewed publications and base notability only on a Google search for "GEKKO Optimization". The peer review process helps to establish novelty and there are several independent examples of notability. I would appreciate a second editor's opinion on this before the article is deleted. Jhedengren ( talk) 19:05, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Again, notability for Wikipedia requires source(s) independent on the article subject. Papers written by authors of this software aren´t independent sources and so give no notability. Pavlor ( talk) 19:47, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
I believe that Gekko should pass the notability requirement, especially in comparison to some of the other software packages listed. Many of the articles related to optimization software only list sources that are from the software authors including Artelys_Knitro, FICO_Xpress, Gurobi, IPOPT, Pyomo, SNOPT, and TOMLAB (as of 1 May 2018). All of these are very notable but it appears that the standards for independent citations on Wikipedia has improved. This won't be a problem for Gekko - I can add additional citations that are independent. Jhedengren ( talk) 23:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC) reply
That other articles are as bad is without doubt no valid reason to keep this one... If you can provide independent reliable sources, that would certainly help. Pavlor ( talk) 06:25, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I added references 15-24 as other notable mentions of GEKKO. I can give additional references, if needed.
15. Mittleman, Hans (1 May 2018). "Decision Tree for Optimization Software". Plato. Arizona State University. Retrieved 1 May 2018. Object-oriented python library for mixed-integer and differential-algebraic equations
16. "Solver Solutions". Advanced Process Solutions, LLC. Retrieved 1 May 2018. GEKKO Python with APOPT or BPOPT Solvers
17. Everton, Colling. "Dynamic Optimization Projects". Petrobras. Petrobras, Statoil, Facebook. Retrieved 1 May 2018. Example Presentation: Everton Colling of Petrobras shares his experience with GEKKO for modeling and nonlinear control of distillation
18. "APMonitor Google Group: GEKKO". Google. Retrieved 1 May 2018.
19. "Computational Science: Is there a high quality nonlinear programming solver for Python?". SciComp. Retrieved 1 May 2018.
20. Kantor, Jeff (2 May 2018). "TCLab Documentation" (PDF). ReadTheDocs. University of Notre Dame. Retrieved 2 May 2018. pip install tclab
21. Kantor, Jeff (2 May 2018). "Chemical Process Control". GitHub. University of Notre Dame. Retrieved 2 May 2018. Using the Temperature Control Lab (TCLab)
22. Hedengren, John (2 May 2018). "Advanced Temperature Control Lab". Dynamic Optimization Course. Brigham Young University. Retrieved 2 May 2018. Hands-on applications of advanced temperature control
23. Sandrock, Carl (2 May 2018). "Jupyter notebooks for Dynamics and Control". GitHub. University of Pretoria, South Africa. Retrieved 2 May 2018. CPN321 (Process Dynamics), and CPB421 (Process Control) at the Chemical Engineering department of the University of Pretoria
24. "CACHE News (Winter 2018): Incorporating Dynamic Simulation into Chemical Engineering Curricula" (PDF). CACHE: Computer Aids for Chemical Engineering. University of Texas at Austin. 2 May 2018. Retrieved 2 May 2018. Short Course at the ASEE 2017 Summer School hosted at SCSU by Hedengren (BYU), Grover (Georgia Tech), and Badgwell (ExxonMobil)
Jhedengren ( talk) 12:24, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Too weak. Some are user generated content (GitHub), the other (24) doesn´t mention GEKKO at all (not even counting it is an advert for courses)! Pavlor ( talk) 12:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The course content references are to give an idea of the users of the TCLab that uses GEKKO. I can remove the TCLab references, if needed, but I think they give an idea of how GEKKO is being used. Here is the current distribution map of users: http://apmonitor.com/pdc/uploads/Main/tclab_users.png The CACHE new article from source ( https://cache.org) was published by Tom Edgar (UT Austin) for a session that was held at the American Society for Engineering Education in summer 2017 where we introduced advanced control features of the software with TCLab. It is not an advertisement for a future course. All of the course content is freely available as well. GEKKO is the name that was coined with the software release in Jan 2018 with the public release. Many of them do not mention "GEKKO" because the name is associated with the later public release. Before that, it was beta software with no official name. There are additional references that I can add soon. For example, Facebook is open-sourcing their trajectory optimization for HALE aircraft (Internet drones) soon that is based on GEKKO. Jhedengren ( talk) 16:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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Non-notable band with no coverage, despite having a few "blue linked" members (also of questionable notability.) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:21, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep- The band has been covered by reliable sources as can be seen in the reference section. Band members not having blue link simply means that the band members are not notable as individuals it does not mean that the band is not notable. The band has won notable awards, has released albums, and have received coverage is third party reliable sources. Vinegarymass911 ( talk) 19:10, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply
How do you figure that is significant coverage?
The first link is their own non-functional website
2 is an interview
3 is primarily an interview
is done by a freelance editor, the equivalent of an op-ed
makes no mention of the band

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The result was Delete Low participation despite being relisted three times, but I think the argument that the article does not meet notability guidelines is correct. Donald Albury 13:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Article does not include a single reliable source and is written like an advertisment by an obviously conntected editor. The page was previously deleted in November 2007 by @ Carlosguitar but subsequently recreated by the same user just a few days later, with no improvement on the previous deletion criteria. Topic fails WP:GNG/ WP:CORPDEPTH and lacks proper COI attribution on the talk page ( WP:DISCLOSE), and thus should be deleted. Lordtobi ( ✉) 07:16, 25 April 2018 (UTC) reply
>> I've added a "connected contributor" block to the talk page as per your requested. Don't confuse being an expert on a topic with having a conflict of interest. - Bedno added 19:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep Page does need improvement, neutral writing tone, and a better structure, but I don't think it deserves to be deleted. Despite the lack of reliable sources, judging from the information (and images) available, I think they are relatively known and I am going to cast a vote on that notion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by JenniferCraigCarter ( talk • contribs) 11:24, 25 April 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete I am unconvinced that the local coverage in the press page is sufficient to pass WP:GNG.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I am the volunteer earnestly trying to meet Wikipedia guidelines to provide introduction and history on the amazing and long lived local institution that is Triton Troupers Circus. I've overhauled this page several times already at editor requests. I'm at a loss at this point as to how a robust set of references including offsite links to decades of photos and pages of press clippings and even a governmental honor, somehow doesn't demonstrate significance. I am open to specific suggestions or arbitration. Please forgive my novice editor skills, I hope I've posted this correctly. Bedno 25 April 2018
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  • REVISIONS PLANNED, PATIENCE APPRECIATED. (Thanks Szzuk for relisting.) I've prioritized overhauling this entry *yet again* for neutral tone and other guidelines mentioned. But I again assert that this page is no differently written than ANY of those listed on your Circus_school page for example. And as a volunteer organization it's fundamentally not "written like an advertisment(sic)". Frankly the isolated critics seem oddly opinionated and vitriolic, but I'll incorporate their feedback anyway. Bedno added 19:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    Circus school is a terrible article to use as excuse, just look at it: It is an introductory sentence followed by a bulleted list of exemplary circus schools, there is no real content there. What makes it worse is that only the list entries are sourced, and not all of them, and those that are sourced are sourced using the homepages of the cirucses in question. It'd rather be another deletion candidate than a reason to keep TTC. Also, any article can be written like an advertisement, commercial or not. Reading the articles gives the impression that the circus is the best circus, most popular circus of the U.S. and that it employs many world-famous artists, neither of which appears to be the case. I've cleaned the article up a bit, but that just scratched the tip of the iceberg. Stripping the article off unreliable references only leaves one Chicago Tribune citation ( here's another also), which is not enough to pass notability guidelines on Wikipedia.
    Let alone that Google only finds 100 (yes, 100) results when searching for the circus (this might be due to regional restrictions, but even in Europe, 100 is way too low), a quick search returns practically only YouTube videos, Facebook pages and events lists, no press coverage, especially no subsistantial coverage. The only source I could find is the one linked previously, and that is not subsistantial either, just routine coverage. Please review WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH, and you will quickly realize that the article has no grounds to stay on Wikipedia. The circus might be for a good cause, but it is just not notable for Wikipedia, sorry. Lordtobi ( ✉) 22:08, 5 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Halfway (EastEnders). North America 1000 20:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:ENT. From what I can find out the actor has had a few roles in television. However, with the exception of EastEnders, all these roles only appear to be for one episode and do not appear to be notable roles. Of the two films he has appeared in, one was classed as a short film, the other he played a sale sign man, again neither would appear notable. I've also searched the stage plays he's been in and not really found anything on Google. I would assume if they were notable parts the search engine would have found something.

I suggest either deleting the article or redirecting it to Halfway (EastEnders). 5 albert square ( talk) 12:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. There is no option for "marginal keep". But according to the consensus here, there should be. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 19:26, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Poor source. Not notable. Siddiqsazzad001 </Talk> 17:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. I have just moved this article to Hertford British Hospital. The basic history is - Notable British Hospital in France for 100+ years - the hospital gets absorbed into French Health System and disappears - what is left is a charity of no importance. The article is now about the hospital. Szzuk ( talk) 19:43, 28 April 2018 (UTC) reply
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*Delete - Per WP:NHOSPITALS, I can only see one trivial independent source. I search the net but are just routine mentions, news neither. If there are any more sources, I will be willing to change the vote. Quek157 ( talk) 20:34, 12 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Further Comment- what to do with the redirect as this page is moved during this Afd, the redirect should also be deleted if this is deleted. No one cares to give anymore sources??? -- Quek157 ( talk) 19:52, 13 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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Access on that might be tricky, but anyone with either direct or library access should be able to get to Lancet - HBH in Paris (1), Lancet - HBH in Paris (2) or most encouragingly Lancet Vol 1 Part 1 - with encouraging snippet view. I despise trying to make a !vote on notability when there are potential sources in the offing, so any details much desired Nosebagbear ( talk) 15:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I've switched mine to a weak keep - however if someone could get some better access that would be greatly appreciated. Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:58, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
weak KeepRemoved my delete vote upon discovery of new sources (which is what I am waiting for), but will need someone to read or access those sources, prima facie case of notablity is established, promising development -- Quek157 ( talk) 15:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC) with these sources a marginal keep can be established, this is already relisted 3 times and no need a fourth -- Quek157 ( talk) 11:35, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Bordering on consensus to keep. This indicates that we probably won't delete these lists outright merely just because they contain redlinks, but that editorial cleanup efforts such as unlinking red links, merging, referencing, etc. may continue subject to editorial consensus. Individual lists that are deemed unverifiable can still be renominated. Sandstein 07:56, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

List of rulers of the Mossi state of Gwiriko ‎

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See here. Enigma msg 20:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are also lists of red-linked articles:

List of rulers of the Mossi state of Liptako (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Mossi state of Tenkodogo (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Mossi state of Wogodogo (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Mossi state of Yatenga (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Bilanga (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Bilayanga (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Bongandini (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Con (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Kuala (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Macakoali (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Nungu (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Piela (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Enigma msg 20:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep all. And for that matter, I'm not at all convinced that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Pama was correctly decided, despite the unanimous comments for deletion. The sole argument here has been that lists consisting exclusively of redlinks are eligible for deletion. I'm not sure that's the case. WP:CSC states that one of the criteria for inclusion for a stand-alone list is: "Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia. Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future." Rulers of recognized regions unquestionably meet the notability criteria, and these king lists are verifiable; they might have somewhat poor sourcing at the moment, but there are entire books on the topic of African rulers. So then we're faced with the question of whether the lack of articles in this topic requires the list deletion. The same guideline document has something to say there, too: "'Creation guide' lists—lists devoted to a large number of redlinked (unwritten) articles, for the purpose of keeping track of which articles still need to be written—don't belong in the main namespace." (emphasis mine). That's transparently not the purpose of these lists, and that's the only place in the list guidelines where I can see "everything is red" as a cause for deletion. Rather, these lists comprise redlinks nearly exclusively due to systemic bias. If all of the kings in List of rulers of Wales were redlinks, it would not stop that from being a valid article. Now, there's something to be said for handling these differently. Perhaps including the individual states as sections in a list of rulers of the Mossi people, for example, but that's an editorial determination, not a cause for deletion. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 22:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Strong keep - I agree with Squeamish Ossifrage, both on these articles and on List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Pama. Enigma, would you consider at least draftifying that now deleted article if I (we?) promised to fill in some redlinks before restoring it to article space? Smmurphy( Talk) 03:27, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    • No objection. Where would you like it moved? Enigma msg 03:35, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
      • How about, Draft:List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Pama. Smmurphy( Talk) 04:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
        • I'm striking my vote for now. I'm trying to figure out what, for instance, is the "state of Piela". Some of these entities may be provinces or regions in Burkino Faso and some may have been states in the Mossi Kingdom, but it isn't clear to me that all of them are. I'll try to look at it more closely tomorrow. In the meantime, feel free to draftify the Pama list; Pama was for sure a significant Chiefdom in the eighteenth century and while I haven't looked into who its leaders were, such information may be source-able with some effort. Smmurphy( Talk) 05:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
        •  Done By the way, I tried to read up on these regions on my own. Interesting note is that I didn't see them mentioned in Burkina Faso. Enigma msg 05:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
          • Our coverage of this entire topic area is beyond terrible. Burkina Faso needs some work at summary style for the information spun off to History of Burkina Faso; the only link to Mossi Kingdoms is in an image caption! Not that the Mossi Kingdoms article is in great shape, but it's something. These lists under discussion now are the lists of rulers of the various Mossi Kingdoms. Wogodogo, Tenkodo, and Yatenga were the most politically important and best-studied. With a little work, I think I can write sourced stubs for a good bit of their king lists. Most of the rest of the lists are the ones currently titled "Gurma Mossi state". The Gurma people are related to the Mossi, but technically separate. Sources tend to bundle these Gurma-majority kingdoms with the Mossi ones during the Mossi Kingdoms period. All these were sovereign, but showed various measures of deference to Wogodogo. As far as the Gurma kingdoms go, Nunga (=Nuga, =Fada N'Gourma) is by far the best studied and documented. A lot of sources just concede that there were [some number] of other kingdoms, but either give them no coverage or a cursory naming. I'm less confident in the ability to write valid articles for their kings. A special mention goes to the last one of of these, List of rulers of the Mossi state of Liptako. That's actually a list of the rulers of Liptako, a Gurma-majority kingdom that overlaps modern-day Burkina Faso, Niger, and Mali, and which appears to be considered distinct from the Mossi Kingdoms by most scholars. There's a lot written about Liptako, and I can (and will, hopefully today) clean that list up and source it appropriately. That said, it'll need a title change at some point. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 13:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment - so for the satisfaction of notability under these articles, under WP:LISTN, we need either grouping discussion or at least most of those mentioned within to have independent notability. I don't have many access rights when it comes to either JSTOR or google books, but if anyone does, at least a quick glance at African States and Rulers and Historical Dictionary of Burkina Faso (I'd like to note on that one, it's pretty detailed, and very detailed on a good few - not a direct failure on WP:DICTIONARY; — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nosebagbear ( talk • contribs) 12:50, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Returning to the Liptako list Squeamish Ossifage mentions, one book (Irwin, Paul. Liptako Speaks: history from oral tradition in Africa. Princeton University Press, 2014) discusses exactly this, with a king list in table form on page 84 [3] (If you don't have access to Project Muse, WP:TWL offers free accounts to Wikipedia editors!). Smmurphy( Talk) 18:12, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
      • I have a question for anyone, especially @ Squeamish Ossifrage: Going through these, and starting with Gwiriko, it looks like some (most/all?) of the kingdoms discussed don't have pages themselves. When adding sources, I find I am more interested in creating a page for the state/kingdom/chiefdom than only cleaning up these lists. Further, a list like these would be a good starting point for such a page. I'm not terribly impressed by the names of these lists, for instance the "Mossi state of X" formulation seems inaccurate in some cases. Rather than renaming them to something more appropriate and creating a separate page about the state/kingdom/chiefdom I propose as a part of updating, moving (not leaving redirect?) these pages to pages about the states/kingdoms/chiefdoms themselves. So I would like to move List of rulers of the Mossi state of Gwiriko to "Kingdom of Gwiriko" without leaving a redirect. Alternatively, the list could be renamed to "List of rulers of the Kingdom of Gwiriko" and a new page on the kingdom be created; but the page on the Kingdom itself wouldn't really be so long that a separate article on the Kingdom and King list is really necessary.
Note that currently the pages as they are are referenced to http://www.rulers.org/burktrad.html, which doesn't meet RS standards, I think. As such, I don't feel tied to the word "states" if they are given other names in more RS. Anyway, I'm not in favor of renaming pages during an AfD, but am going to be bold and edit pages with that end goal in mind. Let me know if you have a strong inclination for keeping the list as a list rather than recasting the list as an article about the kingdom itself. Thanks, Smmurphy( Talk) 18:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Well, if I got to pick how we handled this, most of these kingdoms should be discussed in Mossi Kingdoms, a historically important topic where our article is reprehensible. The Gurma kingdoms weren't ethnically Mossi, but they're still "Mossi Kingdoms" so far as historians go. So that's probably where I'd start. Now, there's actually a LOT written about the Mossi Kingdoms period, so I imagine that—even if we merge much of this in, rather than covering each individually—we'll eventually want to spin off a List of kings of the Mossi Kingdoms. Or something like that. The notable exception is the content in List of rulers of the Mossi state of Liptako, which is just... sloppy. Rulers.org doesn't likely meet RS standards (although it's sole editor does try real hard), but even it doesn't say that Liptako was one of the Mossi Kingdoms; just "related" (which is true, it was a neighboring region). If we want to be pedantic, there was a Mossi (okay, actually Gurma) kingdom in what later became Liptako, but that was called Koala, and isn't what the list contains. For what it's worth, fixing the Liptako content is what I'm currently working on, by rebuilding it from scratch with better sourcing. Expect a List of rulers of Liptako within the next day or three. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 19:14, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • I'd say that you more or less do get to pick how this is handled, as there are few editors in this area. Basically, the outcome of this AfD is likely to be keep, merge (to the list of kings of the Mossi Kingdoms perhaps) or no consensus (given our protests and the nature of the articles, I doubt we'd get a lot of delete !votes going forward). I don't know who else will work to clean these up (the original editor, User:JohnArmagh, is still occasionally active but didn't take part in the previous AfD); so at that point you, I, and whoever, can move the pages or turn them into redirects as we like. I'm working on Gwiriko along the lines I described - anyone watching that page should also watch this AfD, so by explaining my reasoning here and getting feedback, I feel like it is fair if I am bold with moving/redirecting as I think is best after the AfD (so long as we aren't using redirect to perform out-of-process deletions, such behavior is generally good for the project). You can do what you like with Liptako, I'll keep an eye on it and try to help if I can. If you don't mind, we can let each other know if we are moving on to another of these so we don't overlap our efforts too much. Smmurphy( Talk) 19:38, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Yes, agreed. They were sloppily created years ago and no one was ever interested enough to clean them up, including the article creator (who was notified of this AfD and the last AfD but didn't bother to weigh in), so if you have interest now, you do have carte blanche to do as you wish with them. Enigma msg 00:31, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • It's not a plausible search term so it doesn't make sense as a redirect, and there's nothing there worth salvaging, so I'll delete it after this AfD if there's no opposition, given that it's been supplanted by a superior article at a different location. Enigma msg 20:57, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Inclined to Keep unless each list can be merged to an article on the state that they ruled. However the red-links should be delinked to discourage the creation of stub articles, which will never get expanded on each of them. Such a merge might well be a better option. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • I've been trying to get some work done on the Tenkodogo / Wogodogo / Yentaki lists, but it's slow going... especially because scholars in the field seem to have, shall we say, a slight disagreement about the chronology of the entire region. One proposed chronology sets Oubri's founding of Oubritenga in 1182; a competing proposal sets the date circa 1485 (and add or subtract another 100 years for the minority opinions). I'm trying to track down more recent publications to ascertain the current state of scholarship on the topic and see if the 300-year discrepency has been resolved in any way, but most of the historians working in the field write in French and don't publish in the US. I read enough French to manage, but source access doesn't move quickly, and there's only so much I can do. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 19:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:45, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:N. All current sources are primary (official sites and a press release) or unreliable (MMO Huts). I looked for WP:VG/RS-approved reliable sources using the Reliable and Situational custom Google searches and found a handful of very trivial mentions and more press releases. This game does not appear to have received significant coverage in reliable sources. (Note:I will be nominating GetAmped2 for the same reason.) Woodroar ( talk) 23:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • This might be a problem of having web sources which are a) predominantly English and b) which have survived since original release of the game in the early 2000s, given that 4Gamer ( and IGN) indicates that the game was popular in Korea in 2006 (in an article for another game, mind you, but it's being used as the "here's what this game needs to beat") with some 11M users. GamesIndustry indicates the game is named "SplashFighters" in English-speaking countries, and under that name I see not a lot either (press releases and announcements, nothing treating the work with significance). There's a page (looks like an advert) in GameAxis. Here's a mention of the Chinese publisher. I think there's something notable here, but none of the sources available indicate it. That said, the developer has a page here at CyberStep, so, redirect as a viable search term. -- Izno ( talk) 00:38, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. North America 1000 06:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Ten year old stub that's gotten no development in that time. Unreferenced, except in a vague external-links way. Borderline WP:A7/ WP:G11. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Balete,_Aklan#Education.No clear keep votes (with the only keep saying it is also okay, but firstly preferring a merge). Selective merging to be done in history. Nomination withdrawn as per WP:ATD ( non-admin closure) Quek157 ( talk) 19:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

List of schools in Balete Aklan

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WP:LISTCRUFT, why not just expand Aklan#Universities_and_colleges. Don't even have to redirect as not much usage. Merger is a blur as all unverified and will just cause the page to decline in quality. Quek157 ( talk) 12:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • I'd flip that around and move the colleges and universities to this list, also simplify and trim the list to notable entries without such a complicated table, perhaps with a government listing to back it up any entries. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
do try, when done do ping me here and I will see if I will withdraw my nomination -- Quek157 ( talk) 19:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I've trimmed the list down to the high schools and it's small enough to move back to Balete, Aklan. If there aren't any colleges or other notable schools to add, then I would recommend Merge to Balete, Aklan. The region has about 28 thousand people so it should have a college/university maybe? AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 02:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ AngusWOOF:why not just copy the small list over as it just a list anyone can make, not much of attribution issues, with the copy summary as copied from the page and initial page will become a redirect. how's that?, so end with a redirect? Quek157 ( talk) 17:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. I think we want to have list-articles about high schools, perhaps in lieu of individual articles and AFDs. This one covers a private academy plus 5 public high schools, surprising to me for a town/city of 28,000. Is there a larger-area list-article that this could/should be merged to? Just "Keep" seems okay too. -- Doncram ( talk) 16:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Yes, the town's article can include the list as it stands. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 17:21, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
If no objection, this list will be added to the list in the town article and I will keep it as a redirect if there need be can be "resurrected", target will be Balete,_Aklan#Education which is now empty and this is the main article, clearly the article is not that long that we need to split right?, either copy / paste then histmerge or selective merging from history. -- Quek157 ( talk) 18:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Just a note, my town of 200,000 only have 1 pre university as well as around 20 secondary schools. So it's not surprising. Quek157 ( talk) 19:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Lists of pornographic actors

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Unnecessary list. Only three itens. Only link is the template {{ Pornography}}, where the three items in the list already exist. Guilherme Burn ( talk) 12:19, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Upkeep Maintenance Management

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fails WP:NCORP notable WP:CORPDEPTH. Mostly routine stuff including churnalism. nothing of interest found in a before search Dom from Paris ( talk) 12:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Consensus is for the article to be retained. North America 1000 06:52, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

13 (Zeitoun novel)

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Could find nothing to suggest this book passes WP:GNG. One of the top serch returns was the Wikipedia page for 13....not very promising whether you are superstitious or not. TheLongTone ( talk) 10:51, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep -- Note to nominator TheLongTone, there are certain kinds of topics where simple-minded web searches just aren't useful. You tried searching for "13", and were drowned in references to other kinds of thirteen? Well, I searched for the author, Zeitoun, and had no trouble finding other reviews. I included some of them in the article. Geo Swan ( talk) 05:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Aren't both GNG and WP:Notability (books) relevant when evualating the notability of books? Criteria #1 says: "The book has been the subject[1] of two or more non-trivial[2] published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself." The guideline requires at least two and the article now has three. Geo Swan ( talk) 06:16, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I did a number of searches. I am far from conviced by the references. The Quill & Quire ref is solid I agree, but the independence of the second seems questionable and the third is fundamentally about the author. And the world is littered with people who were included in 'ten to watch' type articles & who have subsequently sunk without trace. TheLongTone ( talk) 10:57, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • @ TheLongTone:, you write: "...but the independence of the second seems questionable..." but you don't explain this concern over its independence. Here is what WP:Notability_(books)#cite_note-independent-3 says about indepence: "Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book." Robertson is a literary guy, who, among other things, reviews books. His work was sufficientlly well respected that a publisher decided to publish a collection of his reviews. Forgive me, but it seems to me that, the only way you could argue his review did not measure up to the notability guide's definition of independence would be if Robertson worked for Zeitoun's publisher, or was related to Zeitoun. Is that what you meant? How did you establish Robertson was not independent from Zeitoun's publisher?
  • With regard to your comment: "...the world is littered with people who were included in 'ten to watch' type articles & who have subsequently sunk without trace." Well, this discussion shouldn't be about Zeitoun's personal notability, but rather about the novel's notability. I'll tell you what, if someone starts Mary-Lou Zeitoun, and someone else starts Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary-Lou Zeitoun I'll look forward to reading your arguments Zeitoun isn't notable there. I suggest those arguments are off-topic here.
  • If you are arguing the Globe and Mail reference doesn't measure up to the guidelines requirements, can I draw your attention to what WP:Notability_(books)#cite_note-subject-1 says? It says "The 'subject' of a work means non-trivial treatment and excludes mere mention of the book, its author or of its publication, price listings and other nonsubstantive detail treatment." Well, the Globe and Mail devoted a short paragraph to Zeitoun, and a longer paragraph to the novel. Is that one paragraph what the notability guideline means by trivial treatment? Is the coverage of the book a mere entry in a list? No, it is more than 100 words -- ie not a "passing mention." Geo Swan ( talk) 13:23, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
oh, and heres another one from Exclaim! magazine - "The only flaw is that being set in 1980 and by dwelling on Marnie's Lennon obsession, it's obvious from the beginning that the book's climax will in part be triggered by Lennon's assassination and the death of Marnie's idealism. But Zeitoun successfully avoids melodrama and any trace of sentimentality or nostalgia; her first-person voice is entirely convincing, and despite the novel's obvious time setting it speaks to universal and timeless teen angst.", oops, and i forgot to put in Keep as meeting WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG:)) Coolabahapple ( talk) 15:31, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as clearly meeting WP:NBOOK criteria 1. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 08:35, 18 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. As a rule, I'm profoundly unconvinced that any novel's article ever needs to exist before the writer who wrote the novel has an article — there can never be any such thing as a novel that's somehow notable despite being written by an author who isn't, because any notability claim that gets a novel over NBOOK by definition also gets its author over NAUTHOR — but this does plainly have the critical attention needed to stave off deletion, with the nominator's problems caused by searching for the general "13" (in which this would obviously disappear beneath waves of other usages) rather than the more targeted "13 Zeitoun" that would find the right stuff. Bearcat ( talk) 17:56, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 00:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Oyster Protocol

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Advertisement for newly-established, minor, non-notable business. Entirely sourced to advert/tech blogs. No decent independent sources or in-depth third party WP:RS coverage that is even near to passing WP:NCORP or WP:GNG, just press releases and advertorial. See also WP:Articles for deletion/8base. The Mighty Glen ( talk) 10:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:36, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Goodwill Industries of the Southern Rivers

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does not meet notability, orphan and COI tagged for three years. We don't have any other articles of local Goodwill franchisees, nor McDonald's... Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 10:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Cityflyer Routes A21 and NA21

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Unsourced, non notable bus route(s). Almost entirely written as a travel guide Ajf773 ( talk) 09:51, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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I concur Quek157 ( talk) 10:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
And it's been nominated too. Ajf773 ( talk) 10:10, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. apparently my error DGG ( talk ) 15:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Not my field, but does not seem to meet the requirement for athletes. DGG ( talk ) 09:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Sigh ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 00:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Free Melania

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Useless trivia/gossip. Not encyclopedic in the least. — JFG talk 09:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Comment/Pending Weak Keep - so I needlessly spent 15 minutes checking notability/sigcov before realising that that wasn't the deletion basis being used by Nom. I'm tempted to say that it isn't either trivia or gossip. The latter is that the cause of the movement may or may not have been created from gossip, but is a full discussed meme/concept, by actual news articles over a reasonable length of time. It isn't trivia given the level of coverage with reasoned analysis on it and any relation of free melania on Trump. I feel that trivia/gossip basis for deletion must be fairly clear.
This leads to why I am pending rather than going keep - nom is correct to point out these grounds for the article as it stands - it reads as gossip and wouldn't appear to add anything. There is easily available data that goes far beyond ceasing to be trivia/gossip - but this article hasn't yet done so. Normally I would be tempted to argue that WP:COMPLETE should mean it remains, but with regards to an article primarily about a living person, I feel a good case can be made for improvement being necessary to remain. Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Pending additional detail to be added to clarify as non-trivial/gossip, I feel weak keep is the correct position. Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Merging only really makes sense if it couldn't satisfy notability, which it can. That it is a protest against Trump doesn't mean it should go under. If it is too trivial/gossipy then it doesn't belong in wiki at all. Nosebagbear ( talk) 22:05, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Weak Keep. Should this be notable? No. Is this notable? Yes, by dint of repeated and lasting media coverage. It seems that in issues related to Trump, coverage turns the trivial into notable leading us to Trumpedia - so unless some adds an appropriate clause to WP:NOT (e.g. silly trivia related to the sitting US president is not notable until LASTING is established by coverage persisting 2 years after this term) - it merits an article. Icewhiz ( talk) 16:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. WP:GNG. Hmlarson ( talk) 19:18, 18 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:46, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Pioneer Records

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No evidence of notability. Article has been mostly untouched since 2010.  —  TORTOISE WRATH 09:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - only issued a single notable record in 1987. WP:NOTINHERITED. Bearian ( talk) 21:07, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: certainly fails WP:NCORP, and in any case I'm not convinced this article isn't a hoax. There is no sign of this Pioneer Records having released a Dizzy Gillespie album – the 1987 concert was broadcast by the BBC but doesn't seem to have been released on CD until 2000, by BBC Music. The 1989 concert at the Festival Hall was originally released by the Enja label. The other band and their EP mentioned in the article don't appear to exist. The creator's only other edit to Wikipedia was to insert a joke edit about Chuck Norris in another article. There have since been a couple of other Pioneer Record labels started up to release dance music, but they have nothing to do with this supposed label. Richard3120 ( talk) 21:25, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:32, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails the rigor of WP:NCORP.One news-article do not maketh encyclopedic notability. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. — Spaceman Spiff 12:05, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Inshorts

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Fails the rigor of WP:NCORP.Flooded withnews about funding stuff.Typical churnalism-practicing-sources. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:30, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete and redirect to Asha News. Consensus that content doesn't belong but possible search term, so deleting and redirecting. — Spaceman Spiff 07:48, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Seeking a redirect to Asha-News(which may be another non-notable channel), for now.Nil coverage in other reliable sources. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:28, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

The Citizen (India)

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Well.....A lot of eminent personalities have written pieces on the website.Nothing more, nothing less.And, zero mentions in reliable sources apart from some brouhaha over some spotlight grabbing stunts w.r.t to the Tarun Tezpal rape-case. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:25, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete As per nominator's comments. Plus, seems to be some bias in rebranding widespread criticism as a rise to 'prominence'. Any other facts on the page are simply referenced to the publication itself. Norcaes ( talk) 15:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Attila (metalcore band). Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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I cannot seem to find reliable indepth coverage--not even an AllMusic review. There is discogs and music download sites but those certainly do not count toward GNG TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 02:33, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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@ Sam Sailor: Sorry for the delay. I have been a frequent participant in album AfDs for the past few months and have noticed that this recommendation is becoming more frequent. As you said, it's a fair policy-based solution and I have no problem with it for sketchy album articles in general. But while redirects are cheap and easy, so is reversing them, and instead of just eliminating the data we leave open the chance for someone to bring it back into the light again and again. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 23:51, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Doomsdayer520: No worries. Alternatives to deletion is an often overlooked part of our deletion policy, and redirects from albums to e.g. an artist article or a discography article are so common we even have a specific WP:RCAT for these cases: {{ R from album}}.
I can't see anything in the article history that suggests we would have edit warring over a redirect. No need to cross bridges before we come to them. And should a problem arrise, a typical scenario would be an IP editor restoring the article without better sourcing, then a simple solution would be to put the redirect under WP:PCPP and eventually WP:SEMI, should the problem persist. In retaining the article's history rather than deleting it, we not only comply with deletion policy, we also comply with editing policy, and leave a little window open for someone to source the article adequately, rather than start from scratch.
Even if a case was made for deleting the current article for whatever reason, a Delete and recreate as redirect !vote would be more logical rather than just Delete: this title typically got 20–30 daily views in April, and if it did not exist and someone requested it at WP:AFC/R, I would not hesitate with creating it as an {{ R from album}}. Sam Sailor 17:30, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Sam Sailor: Well explained as always, but a question remains. This collection of policies appears to be so well established that it might as well be the outcome for most, or all, album AfDs. So why have discussions? If someone decides an album article should be deleted, when they hit "XfD" (or they start it manually), should the system just tell them to redirect to the artist's article and see if anyone reverses it later? --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 21:27, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Doomsdayer520: We have these discussions, I think, because Twinkle makes it far too easy to hit XfD, and does not come with a reminder saying "Before nominating an article, remember to consider alternatives to deletion" the same way the edit notice does. I am sure a function could be added to Twinkle that searched for e.g. {{ Infobox album}}, found the value in the |artist= parameter and suggested a redirect. Should we make a joint effort to propose such a function at WT:TWINKLE or WP:VPT (or whereever the best venue is)? But until then I think we should try to raise awareness about WP:ATD by participating in the AFDs listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albums and songs. (That is very much a reminder to myself.) ... Perhaps you would reconsider your "delete" !vote in this discussion? Best, Sam Sailor 07:36, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Evolver Music Inc.

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Non-notable company with no sources provided to back up claims. Tinton5 ( talk) 01:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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I mistakenly put award-winning and corrected since Betty Moon was actually nominated for multiple awards while on A&M/Universal records. This is now fixed, and all citations, links and relevant stats have been added to back the relevancy of the label. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbobbradley123 ( talk • contribs) 19:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect to Betty Moon: fails WP:NCORP and WP:NMUSIC. I can only find ten releases by the label, all of which are Ms Moon's own output. Of the references added by Mrbobbradley123, two fail to mention Evolver Music at all, three are simply "released on the Evolver Music label" passing mentions, and the only even vaguely noteworthy reference is the Soundgirls blog, in which Ms Moon writes her own article and uses it to plug her label, so it's a primary source. No evidence that this label has any notability beyond its founder. Richard3120 ( talk) 22:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Looks like another case of a self promoting company (links at bottom use words like "official") -- Sau226 ( talk) 09:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 16:59, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Islamictube

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Subject lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Meatsgains( talk) 01:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak Delete - there are multiple significant sources (some given in article) that have a small amount (4 or 5 lines, usually) on Islamictube, with a high repetition of data between them. There are also a couple of books that give a couple of lines on it. It all seems to come together to form a number of strong mentions in reliable sources. Because a large number of weak notability sources is still weak, it remains delete (especially since it is functionally the same couple of duplicated paragraphs), but it only needs a bit more to be a weak keep. Nosebagbear ( talk) 09:45, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - To me, the article's promotional tone fails NPOV. I don't find a clear way with existing sourcing to write an encyclopedic article with improved neutrality without primary sources. Smmurphy( Talk) 17:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

List of DART Bus Routes

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Unsourced list of routes, no evidence of notability. Fails WP:LISTN and WP:NOTDIR Ajf773 ( talk) 09:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:25, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Jeff Kassel

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Completely unreferenced and semi-advertorial WP:AUTOBIO (creator = User:JeffKassel) of an actor. While there are notability claims here that might qualify him for an article if they were properly referenced, the article claims nothing about him that's "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to clear WP:GNG -- but all I can find on a Google News search is a few glancing namechecks of his existence in coverage of other things or people, not coverage that's substantively about him for the purposes of helping to establish his notability. Bearcat ( talk) 16:04, 29 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. — Spaceman Spiff 04:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Thrillophilia

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I fail to see any significant and/or non-trivial coverage in reliable sources.Typical news about aspects of funding and/or promo-interviews and/or PR-releases.Fails WP:NWEB and/or WP:GNG. ~ Winged Blades Godric 12:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. — Spaceman Spiff 04:52, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

RummyCircle

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Fails WP:NWEB as well as WP:NCORP.No non-trivial and/or significant coverage in reliable sources. ~ Winged Blades Godric 12:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Delete as per nomination. VasuVR ( talk, contribs) 08:45, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Tagged for notability since February, with no improvements. Concerted searches on the net in English find only trivial mentions already cited in article: that she wrote these two plays and died in a plane crash. That's it. I tried searching in Japanese, but found nothing, not even a confirmation of the kanji of her name. This is not enough to pass WP:GNG or WP:AUTHOR, though if someone can find sufficient print materials, I will withdraw. Michitaro ( talk) 08:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Can you explain? To prove notability, there needs to be significant coverage that "addresses the topic directly and in detail" ( WP:SIGCOV). None of the sources cited--and none that could be found in net searches--do that. They offer nothing more than "A Japanese woman died at age 28 in a plane crash after writing 2 plays." Nothing about her birth, education, career, her writing style, approach to theater, specifics of her death, etc. Even her real name is unknown. Nothing. You cannot create an article from that. Michitaro ( talk) 12:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Clear consensus for deletion. North America 1000 20:23, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Some references have been addedsince the previous Af d. But almost all ofthem are at best advertorials--disguised press releases of the sort so common in Indian newspapers. The article in Economic Times, is not a press release, but it covers several such enterprises, with just a mention of this one among the others DGG ( talk ) 08:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. North America 1000 20:19, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Deleted in February 2018 - no more notable since then. Fails WP:BIO. References are routine announcements. Promotional article. There are interviews with a DIFFERENT Mike Aho at Vice and Hypebeast. Edwardx ( talk) 09:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 08:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:CORPDEPTH just a regular nurse staffing business nothing remarkable here. Should have been AfD'd not sent to Draft where we can't as easily have a deletion discussion involving notability. Legacypac ( talk) 14:43, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Enigma msg 08:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Doesn't meet the criteria of WP:ENTERTAINER B dash ( talk) 08:03, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 17:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Doesn't meet the criteria of WP:ENTERTAINER B dash ( talk) 08:02, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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http://scmp.com/lifestyle/fashion-beauty/article/2146391/miss-hong-kong-pageant-runner-who-was-big-winner-when , South China Morning Post (since 3 day ago) http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2008-07/23/content_6868870.htm , China Daily http://english.sina.com/p/1/2008/0720/172356.html , Sina english — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.50.214.138 ( talk) 11:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply

I added reliable sources in Main article and re-create new version and wiki style.

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:18, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NACTOR. The majority of his work is in short films, can only find blogs and interviews as sources. Rogermx ( talk) 15:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete When the article itself says an actor is best known for a film with a redlinked title, that's a bad sign. There is no indication in the article or in any searches that there has been any significant notice paid or that this actor's roles have had any impact. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 05:51, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Delete No indications of notability, most of the article promotes the founders and the services, entirely promotional, fails WP:SPIP. References fail the criteria for establishing notability, fails WP:ORGIND. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing ++ 17:00, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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WP:BLP of a musician, with no strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC and no strong reliable source coverage to carry him over WP:GNG in lieu. The strongest notability claim here is winning an award ("Indian Summer Music Award") that is not major enough to pass NMUSIC #8 in and of itself; while this tries to drag the word "Grammy" into things to make him sound more notable, he was not a Grammy nominee in his own right, but merely a session musician on somebody else's album (which is not a notability freebie at all). And performing at "numerous nationally advertised powwows, festivals, and churches" only counts as a pass of NMUSIC #4 (touring) if media produce and publish editorial content about the tour (e.g. concert reviews), and is not an automatic pass just because touring has been stated. But the only sources here are a blurb's worth of content about him in an overview article about one festival, and a brief glancing mention of his existence in a press release about a new age seminar. This is not enough coverage to make him notable, but the article claims nothing about him that's "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be sourced much better than this. Bearcat ( talk) 19:15, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:44, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:45, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America 1000 20:15, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Next to no discography, and only coverage is in a niche blog and that was after his death, which does not establish notability. Mentioned in passing in other sources. sixtynine • whaddya want? • 05:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 08:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Promoting of new minor business. Glorified with business listing and opening news. No indepth independent sources to pass WP:NCORP, no evidence of notability. – Ammarpad ( talk) 15:49, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 23:25, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP. They generate a lot of PR coverage from conducting surveys but the company itself receives no coverage. SmartSE ( talk) 10:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak Delete I'm inclined to go with nom - they receive a lot of mentions in various places, but only a few meeting WP:SIGCOV, including the actual Financial Times ref. The other bits are fasttrack working with the FT, and their paragraphs on each company on the list come across as more like advertising rather than reliable sources. Nothing else cropped up in my WP:BEFORE sweep. Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:13, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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I'm not clear on what the claim to notability is here. This is basically a resume and I'm not finding any substantial sourcing. Perhaps there are sufficient sources in another language, but as is, this article doesn't seem like it needs to exist. Marquardtika ( talk) 20:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Delete: as non-notable actor, specializing in guest appearances on television serials. Quis separabit? 02:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. I would close this as delete, but no one has addressed the concerns expressed by the article creator, and evidently aren't inclined to do so. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:54, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Speedy deleted before, now time for a full AfD. Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:BIO. Run-of-the-mill businessman. Legion M is of marginal notability, so hard to see how Scanlan could be notable. Promotional article, created by a WP:SPA, who has been repeatedly warned for COI editing. Edwardx ( talk) 09:46, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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Hi - I would like to address these two comments: "Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources" - citations from his page include Variety, NBC News, USA Today, Forbes, and LA Times.

"run of the mill businessman" - Paul has founded two companies which have secured hundreds of millions in funding (see MobiTV and Legion M pages: /info/en/?search=Legion_M, /info/en/?search=Legion_M) and are working to shape the technology and distribution models of the entertainment industries. MobiTV was the first company to stream live television to mobile devices, which is certainly a notable accomplishment. He is currently President of MobiTV.

Additionally, Paul's co-founder in Legion M and MobiTV (Jeff Annison) has a Wikipedia page that is very similar in source material and length, and his page has no comment for deletion: /info/en/?search=Jeff_Annison. Alexanderson89 ( talk) 00:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Appears to fail WP:GNG with minimal local news coverage (all from the same source Community Impact Newspaper, mostly brief mentions in the "Local Events" section and the one article about the Wild signing a lease to play in the H-E-B Center, which they have since lost) and a few WP:ROUTINE game coverage from other teams. The article seems to have been created with "presumed notability" as they claim they are professional, however, there is no guideline for such a claim in WP:NORG (specifically WP:ORGSIG) and we must judge on GNG alone. As this is currently a travel-only team that played a single home game (of which, I can find no independent coverage from against a semi-pro team), it is either WP:TOOSOON for significant coverage or possibly just not notable. Yosemiter ( talk) 17:56, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was Merge with Theories of urban planning.

Radical planning

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This article is a theory within urban planning and urban theory. I recommend that it be merged with urban planning under one of the subsections. For the AFD reasoning, this article only has one source and that source is WP:UNDUE academic research. It is not notable enough to have a stand alone page at this time. The existing page has been around for some time, it at least needs some secondary sources to not be WP:PROFRINGE. Randomeditor1000 ( talk) 16:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. I'm not really familiar with urban planning / urban theory concept at all, so my ability to evaluate sources in the content field is poor. That said, Google Scholar returns a lot of hits on the topic, some of which ( here, for example pdf link not so much working, but this article) seem to be quite independent of the originators of the term. Radical planning also appears to have been discussed here, in The Oxford Handbook of Urban Planning. I don't doubt that our current article has undue weight problems (and, in general, is just a lousy little stub). But I don't think this is a WP:FRINGE topic at all; fringe theories don't get section-level coverage in Oxford University Press books. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 13:40, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Comment, the link to the first source "Insurgent Planning" is broken. I personally would love to have the range of all planning theory on wikipedia, but WP:ISNOT a compendium of lesser or vague urban theory terms, nor is it a place for cutting edge ideas or practices (and there are many, trust me, urban planning is a field of acronyms, ideas, theories, practices many of which are not widely accepted). WP:OR applies to the first source. The second may be helpful but it is aspirational and based on WP:OR sources rather then being specifically encyclopedic. Randomeditor1000 ( talk) 20:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I'm really not interested in wading into this field of study. But I do think that an Oxford-published book cannot possibly constitute "original research" as we use that term in Wikipedia: a policy which prevents editors here from engaging in original research themselves. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 20:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Oxford Publishing publishes a number of different books, that doesn't make them wholly devoid of original research. In fact if you read the passages, you would note that the authors base their specific phrasing not in general, but based on three very specific research papers. A summary of original research is just that, still research. Let me give a contrast when I go search the American Planning Association's website [1] for radical planning I don't get anything related to this topic. Sure there are research papers that reference it but it is not generally as notable or used in common parlance like rational planning or synoptic planning. Randomeditor1000 ( talk) 15:09, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Notability? ~Moheen (keep talking) 04:57, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Union School District, San Jose. czar 03:03, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Union Middle School

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Fails to establish notability through reliable third-party sources. JTtheOG ( talk) 02:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Poletik

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Article about a YouTube series, referenced only to its own self-published content about itself with no evidence of reliable source coverage about it shown at all. As always, WP:NMEDIA does not confer an automatic inclusion freebie on every bit of media content that exists -- notability depends on it being the subject of coverage about it in media other than itself. Bearcat ( talk) 01:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. T. Canens ( talk) 23:05, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Bahati Remmy

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Subject lacks notability and significant coverage in reliable sources. Appears to be WP:ONEEVENT Meatsgains( talk) 03:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Why do you want to delete it... It has the links.. Check at the bottom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasaijaivan ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 14 February 2018 (UTC) reply

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References

  1. ^ Website Search. American Planning Association https://www.planning.org/search/?keyword=radical+planning. Retrieved 17 May 2018. {{ cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= ( help)
  2. ^ http://press.vosd.tv/video/t_9EZOMN9JpMU
  3. ^ http://matookerepublic.com/2017/01/09/nbs-journalist-bahati-remmy-in-fear-as-mysterious-man-stalks-spies-and-threatens-her-at-jinja-court/
  4. ^ https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/uganda-media-crackdown_us_56d5d6f5e4b0bf0dab33808c
  5. ^ https://hrnjuganda.org/?p=2557
  6. ^ https://www.howwe.biz/news/entertainment/10906/i-was-man-handled-and-sexually-harassed-by-police
  7. ^ http://press.vosd.tv/video/t_FuC6TqCIAds
  8. ^ http://enewsug.com/journalist-bahati-remmy-rewarded-big-at-nbs-tv/
These seem mostly to be videos and websites. The NBC "awards" are self-described as: After having Lunch with the CEO Kin Kariisa , I walked away with three awards and three Certificates of recognition. I have been awarded for being the most Daring reporter, Best person of the week and NBS TV Personality in other media. I have also won A cash prize, and a Dinner Voucher for two. You can't, with a straight face, be proposing that these demonstrate notability, right? Agricola44 ( talk) 18:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn with no outstanding delete !votes. (non-admin closure) GSS ( talk| c| em) 15:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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No notability demonstrated in the article whatsoever, only one source listed, and the entire article comes out to one sentence (not including a sparsely-populated infobox). - zfJames Please ping me in your reply on this page ( chat page , contribs) 01:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Keep per WP:DEFACTO-- Александр Мотин ( talk) 13:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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@ Gene93k: I wondered if there was a rule like that somewhere, but I didn't see it in the books. Thanks for pointing it out! Show me as requesting discussion closure. - zfJames Please ping me in your reply on this page ( chat page , contribs) 14:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. czar 02:52, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Pavle Stanimirovic

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Fails WP:NAUTHOR, WP:BLPCRIME, WP:NJOURNALIST and most importantly WP:ANYBIO. John from Idegon ( talk) 01:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • DELETE This article certainly fails WP:PERPETRATOR, but the fellow has a lot of media coverage... I'm somewhat conflicted, but I say 'delete' because there is not a lot of coverage that isn't incidental (i.e. he happens to be referenced as an 'expert' on a specific crime group in a few articles). - zfJames Please ping me in your reply on this page ( chat page , contribs) 01:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Indeed, my thought exactly. There's a clear failure of notability due to his criminal history, a clear failure of notability pertaining to him being an author and all other coverage of him is simply name checking. There is nothing even faintly resembling coverage in detail in multiple reliable sources, totally independent of the subject. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was merge to Brookfield, Connecticut#Arts and Culture. czar 02:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Brookfield Library

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small library, does not meet WP:ORG. In particular, it does not clear the WP:AUD requirement. Rusf10 ( talk) 01:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Comment Does this not meet inherent notability because it's part of NRHP? SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 13:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Nevermind, looks like it's non-contributing to that list. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 13:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The former Joyce Memorial Library was apparently located in the old town hall building on Whisconier Road which is part of the Brookfield Center Historic District (Brookfield, Connecticut) and now the historical society/museum. [9] [10]. 24.151.116.12 ( talk) 16:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Yeah, good point. I wouldn't say that qualified it then, this isn't an article about that building. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 17:10, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Does anyone else think it might be appropriate to mention that old location and its history and architecture as part of the history of the library within this article? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 19:50, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Sure, that's a good bit of history for sure. I just want to make sure we don't fall under the assumption that adding that bit of information means it's notable. Just because it was once in a building that later became an historic site won't help this page with its AfD. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 20:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Okay, but if this article is given substantial enough information on the NRHP contributing property (enough to make it virtually dually about the current location as the NRHP former location), then it should, as mentioned above, be inherently notable. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 20:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Because at that point it's better and more accurate to make a page just for that building. No one looking for information on "165 Whisconier Rd" is going to think to look up a wikipedia article of the library that was housed in it decades ago. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 20:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Agree, If there is enough sourcing to create a separate article about the historic building, I would not oppose it. The subject of this article is the town library which has not occupied that building in over 40 years.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 20:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Yes, I do. Here [11] is an old era photo that shows the old town hall with a "Joyce Memorial Library" sign over the front door. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy delete. Per A7 and G11. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 10:58, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Syntasoft

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Defunct company, no notability. The only references within the article are to the dead website of the company. No coverage in independent sources. DferDaisy ( talk) 23:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

All Is Well (EP)

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A non-notable recording by a notable artist. AllMusic lists it but has no info: https://www.allmusic.com/album/all-is-well-songs-for-christmas-walmart-exclusive-mw0001901307 I can't find any RSes that discuss the album. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 22:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 01:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Dami adenuga

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No evidence of any notability. The refs are trivial and unreliable. Fails WP:GNG   Velella   Velella Talk   21:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Firdaus Ramadhan (footballer, born 1993)

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Does not meet WP:BLP, WP:GNG, WP:NFOOTY as he didn't play in the top division (note: PSBL is in top division only in 2012 and he is anyway playing not in first team but U-23). Do not confuse with Firdaus Ramadhan Quek157 ( talk) 19:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 00:54, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Parent rogic theorem

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This appears to be a hoax. The cited publication by Parent and Rogic does not exist, and there are no references to this theorem or its supposed authors anywhere online. There is a Kevin Paul Parent at McGill, but he teaches accounting. CataracticPlanets ( talk) 18:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Cyrillization of chemical nomenclature

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The Cyrillization system outlined in the article is completely unsourced original research, and may in fact be entirely fraudulent/a hoax, as two different editors have pointed out on the article's talk page. The previous AfD was closed as Keep because it was bundled together with several other articles on Cyrillization which were deemed useful. So, resubmitting this on its own for comment. CataracticPlanets ( talk) 18:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Remo (band)

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Nominating as non-notable musical act. Half the citations are for the band's own website, and the chart history citations lead to a completely empty chart history on Billboard. In fact, the only Google result I get for "Remo the First Album" is for a Wikia page, presumably set up by the band itself. Firebag237 ( talk) 18:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:56, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

National Rural Touring Forum

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This article was created by a representative of the event's ticket agency. All sources are churnalism, PR pieces reprinted uncritically. No evidence it meets WP:GNG. Aside: as part of its target audience, I have never even heard of it. Guy ( Help!) 18:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

This appears to be exactly the sort of advertisement masquerading as something else ("... not identifiable as advertising to consumers ...", likely to "... mislead consumers into believing [it is] independent, impartial, or not from the sponsoring advertiser itself ...") that is considered "deceptive" – and thus illegal – in the United States under rules laid down by the Federal Trade Commission. Wikimedia projects are governed by American law. We do not tolerate promotion of any kind, and we certainly cannot tolerate promotion that may be illegal.
Oh, and it does not come close to satisfying the requirements of WP:NCORP. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 19:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Justlettersandnumbers: The creator of the article properly discloses the employer, both in the username and on the user page. This isn't a case of an undisclosed paid editor.
Not exactly, Anachronist – the user has disclosed a connection, but at the same time seems to be trying to maintain that he is not a paid editor. See for example "Those not familiar with how Sponsorship works, we are in fact giving the Fringe money while still doing voluntary work like keeping up this page". I suggest that that is considerably less than fully transparent. But yes, you're right, there's been some disclosure; I've changed "undisclosed" to "incompletely disclosed" in my post above. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 20:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The first line of his userpage says "Employee at Ticketsource". That is sufficient disclosure. Whether he wants to make contradictory statements is beside the point; the disclosure has been made. Ticktsource (the organization) may be doing voluntary work for Cardiff Fringe; that's irrelevant. He's a paid employee, editing within his area of interest, as directed by his employer. ~ Anachronist ( talk) 21:06, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The fact that Wikipedia is not an advertising platform, and the fact that being written by a PR means there is no non-spam version to roll back to. Hence WP:TNT. Guy ( Help!) 07:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Cardiff Fringe

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Created by a COI editor representing the ticket vendor, no credible assertion of meeting WP:GNG, the few sources are churnalism and teh googles provide nothing better. Guy ( Help!) 17:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC) Guy ( Help!) 17:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:53, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Center for Wilderness Safety

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Unsourced and per WP:DEL#8 and WP:DEL#14 ( WP:NOTDIRECTORY). I had added PROD to the article which was endorsed by John from Idegon stating that it had been deleted twice before. PROD was removed by GiantSnowman due to the article being "previously deleted by this method, needs to go to WP:AFD". So I've added the article here. Steven (Editor) ( talk) 17:46, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Fraser Tolmie

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WP:BLP, referenced only to his own primary source profile on the city government's own website with no evidence of reliable source coverage about him shown, of a person notable only as mayor of a city with a population of just 33K. This is not large enough to hand a mayor an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL #2 just because he exists -- at this size of city, a mayor needs to be more notable than the norm, such as by having an unusual volume and range and depth of more than just local media coverage or by also passing NPOL #1 for having served in the provincial or federal legislatures. (Every other past mayor of Moose Jaw who actually has a Wikipedia article got it for that latter reason, rather than getting it because mayor per se.) Simply being a mayor of a small city is not an automatic guarantee of a Wikipedia article in and of itself, but I can't find any evidence of the nationalized coverage it would take to make him a special case. Bearcat ( talk) 17:46, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Notability for Wikipedia's purposes is not measured by how many people might have heard of him — notability lives or dies on the depth of reliable source coverage about him in media that can be shown to support an article. "Not promotional" is very definitely not all that an article has to be to get kept: what it has to be is well-referenced to sources that get him over WP:GNG. Bearcat ( talk) 14:18, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Adiken

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PROD removed with "suggest merge instead". There is no cited info to merge. Searching indicates this company existed from 2002-2006 when operations ceased. Certainly not enough coverage for WP:NCORP MB 17:11, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete this ministub has not been expanded or referenced since it was created in 2006, nothing referenced to merge. If someone wants to write a properly sourced article suggest they can go through AFC and they would deserve the full creator credit 19:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Enigma msg 01:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Mursal Zulfikar (footballer)

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I can't find verification that this footballer has played a game in a professional league per WP:NFOOTY. ... discospinster talk 16:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Reza Fahlevi

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I can't find verification that this footballer has played a game in a professional league per WP:NFOOTY. See, e.g., this database. ... discospinster talk 16:43, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 01:11, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Luis Raul Gomez

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Non-notable MMA fighter - not even close to meeting WP:NMMA PRehse ( talk) 16:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Alfred Khashakyan

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No evidence of any notability. Appears to be a run-of-the-mill mixed martial arts contender who hasn't yet got into the top flight. Fails WP:NMMA   Velella   Velella Talk   15:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Consensus is that there are enough reliable sources to pass WP:GNG Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:46, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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No decent coverage in reliable sources other than a reproduction of a PR-piece, originally published in TOI concerned mainly with it's MBA-school-ranking-list.Hindu Business-Line and Medianama are almost-always typical PR-stuff. ~ Winged Blades Godric 08:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Gekko (optimization software)

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I found no substantial and independent coverage of this software to meet WP:GNG, once I excluded from a Google search a couple of phrases shared in common on a number of websites (suggesting promotional copy) and a mining company in Canada. Largoplazo ( talk) 15:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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Are the editors willing to consider other sources besides Google? Gekko publications have a longer history of publication in the scientific (rigorously peer-reviewed) literature. The Gekko name was not used during the development of the software (similar to how Intel has a different name for chips when in development than in production). The NSF Award page ( https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1547110) gives several references:

  • Eaton, A.N., Beal, L., Thorpe, S., Hubbell, C., Hedengren, J.D., Nybø, R., Aghito, M.. "Real Time Model Identification Using Multi-Fidelity Models in Managed Pressure Drilling," Computers and Chemical Engineering, v.97, 2017, p. 76. doi:10.1016/j.compchemeng.2016.11.008
  • Beal, L., Clark, J., Anderson, M., Warnick, S., Hedengren, J.D.. "Combined Scheduling and Control with Diurnal Constraints and Costs using a Discrete Time Formulation," FOCAPO / CPC 2017, 2017.
  • Beal, L., Park, J., Petersen, D., Warnick, S., Hedengren, J.D.. "Combined Model Predictive Control and Scheduling with Dominant Time Constant Compensation," Computers & Chemical Engineering, v.104, 2017. doi:10.1016/j.compchemeng.2017.04.024
  • Beal, L.D., Petersen D., Pila G., Davis, B., Warnick, S., and Hedengren, J.D.. "Economic Benefit from Progressive Integration of Scheduling and Control for Continuous Chemical Processes," Processes, v.5, 2017. doi:10.3390/pr5040084
  • Mojica, J.L., Petersen, D.J., Hansen, B., Powell, K.M., Hedengren, J.D.. "Optimal Combined Long-Term Facility Design and Short-Term Operational Strategy for CHP Capacity Investments," Energy, v.118, 2017. doi:10.1016/j.energy.2016.12.009
  • Petersen, D., Beal, L.D., Prestwich D., Warnick, S., and Hedengren, J. D.. "Combined Noncyclic Scheduling and Advanced Control for Continuous Chemical Processes," Processes, v.5, 2017. doi:10.3390/pr5040083
  • Udy, J., Blackburn, L., Hedengren, J.D., Darby, M.. "Reduced Order Modeling for Reservoir Injection Optimization and Forecasting," FOCAPO / CPC 2017, Tuscon, AZ, 2017.

Additional references are more recent:

  • Beal, L.D., Petersen, D., Grimsman, D., Warnick, S., Hedengren, J.D., Integrated Scheduling and Control in Discrete-time with Dynamic Parameters and Constraints, Computers & Chemical Engineering, 2018. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.compchemeng.2018.04.010
  • Hedengren, J.D., Brower, D.V., Wilson J.C., High, G., Witherow, K., New Flow Assurance System With High Speed Subsea Fiber Optic Monitoring Of Pressure And Temperature, Symposium 4 Pipelines, Risers, and Subsea Systems, ASME 37th International Conference on Ocean, Offshore and Arctic Engineering, OMAE2018/78079, Madrid, Spain, June 2018.

Logan Beal (Gekko creator) and I were editors on a new special issue book that was recently published that highlights developments in this area from multiple contributors:

A few additional contributions may appear soon but are currently under peer review or development:

The notability will continue to improve as additional independent articles are published. The peer review process and publication can take a while for any new contribution but it is currently on track to have a substantial body of references by the end of 2018. Perhaps this would be a better target for creating a new Gekko page on Wikipedia but it seems that there are many other Wikipedia articles in this area that have many fewer citations. See, for example, many of the software packages that are listed in the Mathematical Optimization Software list at the bottom of the Gekko (optimization software) page on Wikipedia. I understand that new articles need additional scrutiny but the Gekko article is clearly ahead of many of those that already exist in terms of citations in the academic literature. I will update the Gekko article to include additional citations to meet the notability requirements.

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Publications about a product by the people whose product it is aren't independent sources and, therefore, contribute nothing to a finding of notability. Also, the fact that a product has users is not an indication of notability, just as the fact that a business has customers, and lists them, isn't an indication of notability. Establishing notability for this encyclopedia isn't like establishing one's credentials for marketing, in grant applications, or for the benefit of organizers and attendees at conferences at which one hopes to present. Largoplazo ( talk) 02:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
I appreciate this discussion and your insights. The package was publicly released in 2018 and the adoption and peer review process is generally slow. One additional example of notability of Gekko is that it is used for advanced control education modules in the Temperature Control Lab (Google search: temperature tclab) that is used by many universities and individuals. The number of users suggests that additional independent publications are forthcoming, to further strengthen the notability. It is understandable that these are discounted because these specific references are not yet citable. My point is that Gekko is gaining significant notability in industry and academia and it will likely have many more citations in the near future, especially because it is free and open-source with novel capabilities.
However, I believe that Gekko already has sufficient independent sources to establish notability. One thing to clarify is that I'm the developer of APMonitor, not Gekko. Logan Beal developed Gekko and it is his product although I am his research advisor. Logan is completing his PhD studies and will be joining a company later this year. I suggest that article sources that don't list Logan are independent of the product developer, especially those where I am not the principal author. The common outcomes for page deletion listed in WP:COMPOUTCOMES suggests that "programming languages are usually kept, additionally, if they are well-cited in peer-reviewed computer science literature". However, the justification for this Gekko page deletion is lack of Google search results. I propose that (1) this page deletion request be removed or (2) the deletion request is delayed and then the deletion request removed when additional independent citations are added in a couple months. I respect the decision of the editors if this page is deemed not sufficiently notable and will be glad to add the page again when additional citations are added and notability is strengthened. Jhedengren ( talk) 14:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Let me clarify: You are not an independent source. As for expectations of future coverage, you are correct in your assessment that when the time comes, then it will be time. Please see WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. Largoplazo ( talk) 14:37, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
It seems that your quip on your user page sums up your qualifications for notability: "If Google returns fewer results for you than it does for me, you probably aren't notable. :-P". I'm not sure how many Google search results are returned for your name, but I think it is a mistake to ignore a significant body of peer-reviewed publications and base notability only on a Google search for "GEKKO Optimization". The peer review process helps to establish novelty and there are several independent examples of notability. I would appreciate a second editor's opinion on this before the article is deleted. Jhedengren ( talk) 19:05, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Again, notability for Wikipedia requires source(s) independent on the article subject. Papers written by authors of this software aren´t independent sources and so give no notability. Pavlor ( talk) 19:47, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
I believe that Gekko should pass the notability requirement, especially in comparison to some of the other software packages listed. Many of the articles related to optimization software only list sources that are from the software authors including Artelys_Knitro, FICO_Xpress, Gurobi, IPOPT, Pyomo, SNOPT, and TOMLAB (as of 1 May 2018). All of these are very notable but it appears that the standards for independent citations on Wikipedia has improved. This won't be a problem for Gekko - I can add additional citations that are independent. Jhedengren ( talk) 23:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC) reply
That other articles are as bad is without doubt no valid reason to keep this one... If you can provide independent reliable sources, that would certainly help. Pavlor ( talk) 06:25, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I added references 15-24 as other notable mentions of GEKKO. I can give additional references, if needed.
15. Mittleman, Hans (1 May 2018). "Decision Tree for Optimization Software". Plato. Arizona State University. Retrieved 1 May 2018. Object-oriented python library for mixed-integer and differential-algebraic equations
16. "Solver Solutions". Advanced Process Solutions, LLC. Retrieved 1 May 2018. GEKKO Python with APOPT or BPOPT Solvers
17. Everton, Colling. "Dynamic Optimization Projects". Petrobras. Petrobras, Statoil, Facebook. Retrieved 1 May 2018. Example Presentation: Everton Colling of Petrobras shares his experience with GEKKO for modeling and nonlinear control of distillation
18. "APMonitor Google Group: GEKKO". Google. Retrieved 1 May 2018.
19. "Computational Science: Is there a high quality nonlinear programming solver for Python?". SciComp. Retrieved 1 May 2018.
20. Kantor, Jeff (2 May 2018). "TCLab Documentation" (PDF). ReadTheDocs. University of Notre Dame. Retrieved 2 May 2018. pip install tclab
21. Kantor, Jeff (2 May 2018). "Chemical Process Control". GitHub. University of Notre Dame. Retrieved 2 May 2018. Using the Temperature Control Lab (TCLab)
22. Hedengren, John (2 May 2018). "Advanced Temperature Control Lab". Dynamic Optimization Course. Brigham Young University. Retrieved 2 May 2018. Hands-on applications of advanced temperature control
23. Sandrock, Carl (2 May 2018). "Jupyter notebooks for Dynamics and Control". GitHub. University of Pretoria, South Africa. Retrieved 2 May 2018. CPN321 (Process Dynamics), and CPB421 (Process Control) at the Chemical Engineering department of the University of Pretoria
24. "CACHE News (Winter 2018): Incorporating Dynamic Simulation into Chemical Engineering Curricula" (PDF). CACHE: Computer Aids for Chemical Engineering. University of Texas at Austin. 2 May 2018. Retrieved 2 May 2018. Short Course at the ASEE 2017 Summer School hosted at SCSU by Hedengren (BYU), Grover (Georgia Tech), and Badgwell (ExxonMobil)
Jhedengren ( talk) 12:24, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Too weak. Some are user generated content (GitHub), the other (24) doesn´t mention GEKKO at all (not even counting it is an advert for courses)! Pavlor ( talk) 12:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The course content references are to give an idea of the users of the TCLab that uses GEKKO. I can remove the TCLab references, if needed, but I think they give an idea of how GEKKO is being used. Here is the current distribution map of users: http://apmonitor.com/pdc/uploads/Main/tclab_users.png The CACHE new article from source ( https://cache.org) was published by Tom Edgar (UT Austin) for a session that was held at the American Society for Engineering Education in summer 2017 where we introduced advanced control features of the software with TCLab. It is not an advertisement for a future course. All of the course content is freely available as well. GEKKO is the name that was coined with the software release in Jan 2018 with the public release. Many of them do not mention "GEKKO" because the name is associated with the later public release. Before that, it was beta software with no official name. There are additional references that I can add soon. For example, Facebook is open-sourcing their trajectory optimization for HALE aircraft (Internet drones) soon that is based on GEKKO. Jhedengren ( talk) 16:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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Non-notable band with no coverage, despite having a few "blue linked" members (also of questionable notability.) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:21, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep- The band has been covered by reliable sources as can be seen in the reference section. Band members not having blue link simply means that the band members are not notable as individuals it does not mean that the band is not notable. The band has won notable awards, has released albums, and have received coverage is third party reliable sources. Vinegarymass911 ( talk) 19:10, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply
How do you figure that is significant coverage?
The first link is their own non-functional website
2 is an interview
3 is primarily an interview
is done by a freelance editor, the equivalent of an op-ed
makes no mention of the band

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The result was Delete Low participation despite being relisted three times, but I think the argument that the article does not meet notability guidelines is correct. Donald Albury 13:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Article does not include a single reliable source and is written like an advertisment by an obviously conntected editor. The page was previously deleted in November 2007 by @ Carlosguitar but subsequently recreated by the same user just a few days later, with no improvement on the previous deletion criteria. Topic fails WP:GNG/ WP:CORPDEPTH and lacks proper COI attribution on the talk page ( WP:DISCLOSE), and thus should be deleted. Lordtobi ( ✉) 07:16, 25 April 2018 (UTC) reply
>> I've added a "connected contributor" block to the talk page as per your requested. Don't confuse being an expert on a topic with having a conflict of interest. - Bedno added 19:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep Page does need improvement, neutral writing tone, and a better structure, but I don't think it deserves to be deleted. Despite the lack of reliable sources, judging from the information (and images) available, I think they are relatively known and I am going to cast a vote on that notion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by JenniferCraigCarter ( talk • contribs) 11:24, 25 April 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete I am unconvinced that the local coverage in the press page is sufficient to pass WP:GNG.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I am the volunteer earnestly trying to meet Wikipedia guidelines to provide introduction and history on the amazing and long lived local institution that is Triton Troupers Circus. I've overhauled this page several times already at editor requests. I'm at a loss at this point as to how a robust set of references including offsite links to decades of photos and pages of press clippings and even a governmental honor, somehow doesn't demonstrate significance. I am open to specific suggestions or arbitration. Please forgive my novice editor skills, I hope I've posted this correctly. Bedno 25 April 2018
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  • REVISIONS PLANNED, PATIENCE APPRECIATED. (Thanks Szzuk for relisting.) I've prioritized overhauling this entry *yet again* for neutral tone and other guidelines mentioned. But I again assert that this page is no differently written than ANY of those listed on your Circus_school page for example. And as a volunteer organization it's fundamentally not "written like an advertisment(sic)". Frankly the isolated critics seem oddly opinionated and vitriolic, but I'll incorporate their feedback anyway. Bedno added 19:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    Circus school is a terrible article to use as excuse, just look at it: It is an introductory sentence followed by a bulleted list of exemplary circus schools, there is no real content there. What makes it worse is that only the list entries are sourced, and not all of them, and those that are sourced are sourced using the homepages of the cirucses in question. It'd rather be another deletion candidate than a reason to keep TTC. Also, any article can be written like an advertisement, commercial or not. Reading the articles gives the impression that the circus is the best circus, most popular circus of the U.S. and that it employs many world-famous artists, neither of which appears to be the case. I've cleaned the article up a bit, but that just scratched the tip of the iceberg. Stripping the article off unreliable references only leaves one Chicago Tribune citation ( here's another also), which is not enough to pass notability guidelines on Wikipedia.
    Let alone that Google only finds 100 (yes, 100) results when searching for the circus (this might be due to regional restrictions, but even in Europe, 100 is way too low), a quick search returns practically only YouTube videos, Facebook pages and events lists, no press coverage, especially no subsistantial coverage. The only source I could find is the one linked previously, and that is not subsistantial either, just routine coverage. Please review WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH, and you will quickly realize that the article has no grounds to stay on Wikipedia. The circus might be for a good cause, but it is just not notable for Wikipedia, sorry. Lordtobi ( ✉) 22:08, 5 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Halfway (EastEnders). North America 1000 20:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:ENT. From what I can find out the actor has had a few roles in television. However, with the exception of EastEnders, all these roles only appear to be for one episode and do not appear to be notable roles. Of the two films he has appeared in, one was classed as a short film, the other he played a sale sign man, again neither would appear notable. I've also searched the stage plays he's been in and not really found anything on Google. I would assume if they were notable parts the search engine would have found something.

I suggest either deleting the article or redirecting it to Halfway (EastEnders). 5 albert square ( talk) 12:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. There is no option for "marginal keep". But according to the consensus here, there should be. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 19:26, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Poor source. Not notable. Siddiqsazzad001 </Talk> 17:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. I have just moved this article to Hertford British Hospital. The basic history is - Notable British Hospital in France for 100+ years - the hospital gets absorbed into French Health System and disappears - what is left is a charity of no importance. The article is now about the hospital. Szzuk ( talk) 19:43, 28 April 2018 (UTC) reply
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*Delete - Per WP:NHOSPITALS, I can only see one trivial independent source. I search the net but are just routine mentions, news neither. If there are any more sources, I will be willing to change the vote. Quek157 ( talk) 20:34, 12 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Further Comment- what to do with the redirect as this page is moved during this Afd, the redirect should also be deleted if this is deleted. No one cares to give anymore sources??? -- Quek157 ( talk) 19:52, 13 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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Access on that might be tricky, but anyone with either direct or library access should be able to get to Lancet - HBH in Paris (1), Lancet - HBH in Paris (2) or most encouragingly Lancet Vol 1 Part 1 - with encouraging snippet view. I despise trying to make a !vote on notability when there are potential sources in the offing, so any details much desired Nosebagbear ( talk) 15:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I've switched mine to a weak keep - however if someone could get some better access that would be greatly appreciated. Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:58, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
weak KeepRemoved my delete vote upon discovery of new sources (which is what I am waiting for), but will need someone to read or access those sources, prima facie case of notablity is established, promising development -- Quek157 ( talk) 15:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC) with these sources a marginal keep can be established, this is already relisted 3 times and no need a fourth -- Quek157 ( talk) 11:35, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. Bordering on consensus to keep. This indicates that we probably won't delete these lists outright merely just because they contain redlinks, but that editorial cleanup efforts such as unlinking red links, merging, referencing, etc. may continue subject to editorial consensus. Individual lists that are deemed unverifiable can still be renominated. Sandstein 07:56, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

List of rulers of the Mossi state of Gwiriko ‎

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See here. Enigma msg 20:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are also lists of red-linked articles:

List of rulers of the Mossi state of Liptako (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Mossi state of Tenkodogo (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Mossi state of Wogodogo (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Mossi state of Yatenga (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Bilanga (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Bilayanga (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Bongandini (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Con (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Kuala (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Macakoali (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Nungu (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Piela (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Enigma msg 20:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep all. And for that matter, I'm not at all convinced that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Pama was correctly decided, despite the unanimous comments for deletion. The sole argument here has been that lists consisting exclusively of redlinks are eligible for deletion. I'm not sure that's the case. WP:CSC states that one of the criteria for inclusion for a stand-alone list is: "Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia. Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future." Rulers of recognized regions unquestionably meet the notability criteria, and these king lists are verifiable; they might have somewhat poor sourcing at the moment, but there are entire books on the topic of African rulers. So then we're faced with the question of whether the lack of articles in this topic requires the list deletion. The same guideline document has something to say there, too: "'Creation guide' lists—lists devoted to a large number of redlinked (unwritten) articles, for the purpose of keeping track of which articles still need to be written—don't belong in the main namespace." (emphasis mine). That's transparently not the purpose of these lists, and that's the only place in the list guidelines where I can see "everything is red" as a cause for deletion. Rather, these lists comprise redlinks nearly exclusively due to systemic bias. If all of the kings in List of rulers of Wales were redlinks, it would not stop that from being a valid article. Now, there's something to be said for handling these differently. Perhaps including the individual states as sections in a list of rulers of the Mossi people, for example, but that's an editorial determination, not a cause for deletion. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 22:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Strong keep - I agree with Squeamish Ossifrage, both on these articles and on List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Pama. Enigma, would you consider at least draftifying that now deleted article if I (we?) promised to fill in some redlinks before restoring it to article space? Smmurphy( Talk) 03:27, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    • No objection. Where would you like it moved? Enigma msg 03:35, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
      • How about, Draft:List of rulers of the Gurma Mossi state of Pama. Smmurphy( Talk) 04:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
        • I'm striking my vote for now. I'm trying to figure out what, for instance, is the "state of Piela". Some of these entities may be provinces or regions in Burkino Faso and some may have been states in the Mossi Kingdom, but it isn't clear to me that all of them are. I'll try to look at it more closely tomorrow. In the meantime, feel free to draftify the Pama list; Pama was for sure a significant Chiefdom in the eighteenth century and while I haven't looked into who its leaders were, such information may be source-able with some effort. Smmurphy( Talk) 05:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
        •  Done By the way, I tried to read up on these regions on my own. Interesting note is that I didn't see them mentioned in Burkina Faso. Enigma msg 05:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
          • Our coverage of this entire topic area is beyond terrible. Burkina Faso needs some work at summary style for the information spun off to History of Burkina Faso; the only link to Mossi Kingdoms is in an image caption! Not that the Mossi Kingdoms article is in great shape, but it's something. These lists under discussion now are the lists of rulers of the various Mossi Kingdoms. Wogodogo, Tenkodo, and Yatenga were the most politically important and best-studied. With a little work, I think I can write sourced stubs for a good bit of their king lists. Most of the rest of the lists are the ones currently titled "Gurma Mossi state". The Gurma people are related to the Mossi, but technically separate. Sources tend to bundle these Gurma-majority kingdoms with the Mossi ones during the Mossi Kingdoms period. All these were sovereign, but showed various measures of deference to Wogodogo. As far as the Gurma kingdoms go, Nunga (=Nuga, =Fada N'Gourma) is by far the best studied and documented. A lot of sources just concede that there were [some number] of other kingdoms, but either give them no coverage or a cursory naming. I'm less confident in the ability to write valid articles for their kings. A special mention goes to the last one of of these, List of rulers of the Mossi state of Liptako. That's actually a list of the rulers of Liptako, a Gurma-majority kingdom that overlaps modern-day Burkina Faso, Niger, and Mali, and which appears to be considered distinct from the Mossi Kingdoms by most scholars. There's a lot written about Liptako, and I can (and will, hopefully today) clean that list up and source it appropriately. That said, it'll need a title change at some point. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 13:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment - so for the satisfaction of notability under these articles, under WP:LISTN, we need either grouping discussion or at least most of those mentioned within to have independent notability. I don't have many access rights when it comes to either JSTOR or google books, but if anyone does, at least a quick glance at African States and Rulers and Historical Dictionary of Burkina Faso (I'd like to note on that one, it's pretty detailed, and very detailed on a good few - not a direct failure on WP:DICTIONARY; — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nosebagbear ( talk • contribs) 12:50, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Returning to the Liptako list Squeamish Ossifage mentions, one book (Irwin, Paul. Liptako Speaks: history from oral tradition in Africa. Princeton University Press, 2014) discusses exactly this, with a king list in table form on page 84 [3] (If you don't have access to Project Muse, WP:TWL offers free accounts to Wikipedia editors!). Smmurphy( Talk) 18:12, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
      • I have a question for anyone, especially @ Squeamish Ossifrage: Going through these, and starting with Gwiriko, it looks like some (most/all?) of the kingdoms discussed don't have pages themselves. When adding sources, I find I am more interested in creating a page for the state/kingdom/chiefdom than only cleaning up these lists. Further, a list like these would be a good starting point for such a page. I'm not terribly impressed by the names of these lists, for instance the "Mossi state of X" formulation seems inaccurate in some cases. Rather than renaming them to something more appropriate and creating a separate page about the state/kingdom/chiefdom I propose as a part of updating, moving (not leaving redirect?) these pages to pages about the states/kingdoms/chiefdoms themselves. So I would like to move List of rulers of the Mossi state of Gwiriko to "Kingdom of Gwiriko" without leaving a redirect. Alternatively, the list could be renamed to "List of rulers of the Kingdom of Gwiriko" and a new page on the kingdom be created; but the page on the Kingdom itself wouldn't really be so long that a separate article on the Kingdom and King list is really necessary.
Note that currently the pages as they are are referenced to http://www.rulers.org/burktrad.html, which doesn't meet RS standards, I think. As such, I don't feel tied to the word "states" if they are given other names in more RS. Anyway, I'm not in favor of renaming pages during an AfD, but am going to be bold and edit pages with that end goal in mind. Let me know if you have a strong inclination for keeping the list as a list rather than recasting the list as an article about the kingdom itself. Thanks, Smmurphy( Talk) 18:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Well, if I got to pick how we handled this, most of these kingdoms should be discussed in Mossi Kingdoms, a historically important topic where our article is reprehensible. The Gurma kingdoms weren't ethnically Mossi, but they're still "Mossi Kingdoms" so far as historians go. So that's probably where I'd start. Now, there's actually a LOT written about the Mossi Kingdoms period, so I imagine that—even if we merge much of this in, rather than covering each individually—we'll eventually want to spin off a List of kings of the Mossi Kingdoms. Or something like that. The notable exception is the content in List of rulers of the Mossi state of Liptako, which is just... sloppy. Rulers.org doesn't likely meet RS standards (although it's sole editor does try real hard), but even it doesn't say that Liptako was one of the Mossi Kingdoms; just "related" (which is true, it was a neighboring region). If we want to be pedantic, there was a Mossi (okay, actually Gurma) kingdom in what later became Liptako, but that was called Koala, and isn't what the list contains. For what it's worth, fixing the Liptako content is what I'm currently working on, by rebuilding it from scratch with better sourcing. Expect a List of rulers of Liptako within the next day or three. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 19:14, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • I'd say that you more or less do get to pick how this is handled, as there are few editors in this area. Basically, the outcome of this AfD is likely to be keep, merge (to the list of kings of the Mossi Kingdoms perhaps) or no consensus (given our protests and the nature of the articles, I doubt we'd get a lot of delete !votes going forward). I don't know who else will work to clean these up (the original editor, User:JohnArmagh, is still occasionally active but didn't take part in the previous AfD); so at that point you, I, and whoever, can move the pages or turn them into redirects as we like. I'm working on Gwiriko along the lines I described - anyone watching that page should also watch this AfD, so by explaining my reasoning here and getting feedback, I feel like it is fair if I am bold with moving/redirecting as I think is best after the AfD (so long as we aren't using redirect to perform out-of-process deletions, such behavior is generally good for the project). You can do what you like with Liptako, I'll keep an eye on it and try to help if I can. If you don't mind, we can let each other know if we are moving on to another of these so we don't overlap our efforts too much. Smmurphy( Talk) 19:38, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Yes, agreed. They were sloppily created years ago and no one was ever interested enough to clean them up, including the article creator (who was notified of this AfD and the last AfD but didn't bother to weigh in), so if you have interest now, you do have carte blanche to do as you wish with them. Enigma msg 00:31, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • It's not a plausible search term so it doesn't make sense as a redirect, and there's nothing there worth salvaging, so I'll delete it after this AfD if there's no opposition, given that it's been supplanted by a superior article at a different location. Enigma msg 20:57, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Inclined to Keep unless each list can be merged to an article on the state that they ruled. However the red-links should be delinked to discourage the creation of stub articles, which will never get expanded on each of them. Such a merge might well be a better option. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • I've been trying to get some work done on the Tenkodogo / Wogodogo / Yentaki lists, but it's slow going... especially because scholars in the field seem to have, shall we say, a slight disagreement about the chronology of the entire region. One proposed chronology sets Oubri's founding of Oubritenga in 1182; a competing proposal sets the date circa 1485 (and add or subtract another 100 years for the minority opinions). I'm trying to track down more recent publications to ascertain the current state of scholarship on the topic and see if the 300-year discrepency has been resolved in any way, but most of the historians working in the field write in French and don't publish in the US. I read enough French to manage, but source access doesn't move quickly, and there's only so much I can do. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 19:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:45, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:N. All current sources are primary (official sites and a press release) or unreliable (MMO Huts). I looked for WP:VG/RS-approved reliable sources using the Reliable and Situational custom Google searches and found a handful of very trivial mentions and more press releases. This game does not appear to have received significant coverage in reliable sources. (Note:I will be nominating GetAmped2 for the same reason.) Woodroar ( talk) 23:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • This might be a problem of having web sources which are a) predominantly English and b) which have survived since original release of the game in the early 2000s, given that 4Gamer ( and IGN) indicates that the game was popular in Korea in 2006 (in an article for another game, mind you, but it's being used as the "here's what this game needs to beat") with some 11M users. GamesIndustry indicates the game is named "SplashFighters" in English-speaking countries, and under that name I see not a lot either (press releases and announcements, nothing treating the work with significance). There's a page (looks like an advert) in GameAxis. Here's a mention of the Chinese publisher. I think there's something notable here, but none of the sources available indicate it. That said, the developer has a page here at CyberStep, so, redirect as a viable search term. -- Izno ( talk) 00:38, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. North America 1000 06:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Ten year old stub that's gotten no development in that time. Unreferenced, except in a vague external-links way. Borderline WP:A7/ WP:G11. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Balete,_Aklan#Education.No clear keep votes (with the only keep saying it is also okay, but firstly preferring a merge). Selective merging to be done in history. Nomination withdrawn as per WP:ATD ( non-admin closure) Quek157 ( talk) 19:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

List of schools in Balete Aklan

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WP:LISTCRUFT, why not just expand Aklan#Universities_and_colleges. Don't even have to redirect as not much usage. Merger is a blur as all unverified and will just cause the page to decline in quality. Quek157 ( talk) 12:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • I'd flip that around and move the colleges and universities to this list, also simplify and trim the list to notable entries without such a complicated table, perhaps with a government listing to back it up any entries. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
do try, when done do ping me here and I will see if I will withdraw my nomination -- Quek157 ( talk) 19:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I've trimmed the list down to the high schools and it's small enough to move back to Balete, Aklan. If there aren't any colleges or other notable schools to add, then I would recommend Merge to Balete, Aklan. The region has about 28 thousand people so it should have a college/university maybe? AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 02:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ AngusWOOF:why not just copy the small list over as it just a list anyone can make, not much of attribution issues, with the copy summary as copied from the page and initial page will become a redirect. how's that?, so end with a redirect? Quek157 ( talk) 17:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. I think we want to have list-articles about high schools, perhaps in lieu of individual articles and AFDs. This one covers a private academy plus 5 public high schools, surprising to me for a town/city of 28,000. Is there a larger-area list-article that this could/should be merged to? Just "Keep" seems okay too. -- Doncram ( talk) 16:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Yes, the town's article can include the list as it stands. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 17:21, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
If no objection, this list will be added to the list in the town article and I will keep it as a redirect if there need be can be "resurrected", target will be Balete,_Aklan#Education which is now empty and this is the main article, clearly the article is not that long that we need to split right?, either copy / paste then histmerge or selective merging from history. -- Quek157 ( talk) 18:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Just a note, my town of 200,000 only have 1 pre university as well as around 20 secondary schools. So it's not surprising. Quek157 ( talk) 19:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Lists of pornographic actors

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Unnecessary list. Only three itens. Only link is the template {{ Pornography}}, where the three items in the list already exist. Guilherme Burn ( talk) 12:19, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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fails WP:NCORP notable WP:CORPDEPTH. Mostly routine stuff including churnalism. nothing of interest found in a before search Dom from Paris ( talk) 12:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Consensus is for the article to be retained. North America 1000 06:52, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

13 (Zeitoun novel)

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Could find nothing to suggest this book passes WP:GNG. One of the top serch returns was the Wikipedia page for 13....not very promising whether you are superstitious or not. TheLongTone ( talk) 10:51, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep -- Note to nominator TheLongTone, there are certain kinds of topics where simple-minded web searches just aren't useful. You tried searching for "13", and were drowned in references to other kinds of thirteen? Well, I searched for the author, Zeitoun, and had no trouble finding other reviews. I included some of them in the article. Geo Swan ( talk) 05:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Aren't both GNG and WP:Notability (books) relevant when evualating the notability of books? Criteria #1 says: "The book has been the subject[1] of two or more non-trivial[2] published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself." The guideline requires at least two and the article now has three. Geo Swan ( talk) 06:16, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I did a number of searches. I am far from conviced by the references. The Quill & Quire ref is solid I agree, but the independence of the second seems questionable and the third is fundamentally about the author. And the world is littered with people who were included in 'ten to watch' type articles & who have subsequently sunk without trace. TheLongTone ( talk) 10:57, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • @ TheLongTone:, you write: "...but the independence of the second seems questionable..." but you don't explain this concern over its independence. Here is what WP:Notability_(books)#cite_note-independent-3 says about indepence: "Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book." Robertson is a literary guy, who, among other things, reviews books. His work was sufficientlly well respected that a publisher decided to publish a collection of his reviews. Forgive me, but it seems to me that, the only way you could argue his review did not measure up to the notability guide's definition of independence would be if Robertson worked for Zeitoun's publisher, or was related to Zeitoun. Is that what you meant? How did you establish Robertson was not independent from Zeitoun's publisher?
  • With regard to your comment: "...the world is littered with people who were included in 'ten to watch' type articles & who have subsequently sunk without trace." Well, this discussion shouldn't be about Zeitoun's personal notability, but rather about the novel's notability. I'll tell you what, if someone starts Mary-Lou Zeitoun, and someone else starts Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary-Lou Zeitoun I'll look forward to reading your arguments Zeitoun isn't notable there. I suggest those arguments are off-topic here.
  • If you are arguing the Globe and Mail reference doesn't measure up to the guidelines requirements, can I draw your attention to what WP:Notability_(books)#cite_note-subject-1 says? It says "The 'subject' of a work means non-trivial treatment and excludes mere mention of the book, its author or of its publication, price listings and other nonsubstantive detail treatment." Well, the Globe and Mail devoted a short paragraph to Zeitoun, and a longer paragraph to the novel. Is that one paragraph what the notability guideline means by trivial treatment? Is the coverage of the book a mere entry in a list? No, it is more than 100 words -- ie not a "passing mention." Geo Swan ( talk) 13:23, 16 May 2018 (UTC) reply
oh, and heres another one from Exclaim! magazine - "The only flaw is that being set in 1980 and by dwelling on Marnie's Lennon obsession, it's obvious from the beginning that the book's climax will in part be triggered by Lennon's assassination and the death of Marnie's idealism. But Zeitoun successfully avoids melodrama and any trace of sentimentality or nostalgia; her first-person voice is entirely convincing, and despite the novel's obvious time setting it speaks to universal and timeless teen angst.", oops, and i forgot to put in Keep as meeting WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG:)) Coolabahapple ( talk) 15:31, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as clearly meeting WP:NBOOK criteria 1. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 08:35, 18 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. As a rule, I'm profoundly unconvinced that any novel's article ever needs to exist before the writer who wrote the novel has an article — there can never be any such thing as a novel that's somehow notable despite being written by an author who isn't, because any notability claim that gets a novel over NBOOK by definition also gets its author over NAUTHOR — but this does plainly have the critical attention needed to stave off deletion, with the nominator's problems caused by searching for the general "13" (in which this would obviously disappear beneath waves of other usages) rather than the more targeted "13 Zeitoun" that would find the right stuff. Bearcat ( talk) 17:56, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 00:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Oyster Protocol

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Advertisement for newly-established, minor, non-notable business. Entirely sourced to advert/tech blogs. No decent independent sources or in-depth third party WP:RS coverage that is even near to passing WP:NCORP or WP:GNG, just press releases and advertorial. See also WP:Articles for deletion/8base. The Mighty Glen ( talk) 10:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:36, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Goodwill Industries of the Southern Rivers

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does not meet notability, orphan and COI tagged for three years. We don't have any other articles of local Goodwill franchisees, nor McDonald's... Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 10:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Cityflyer Routes A21 and NA21

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Unsourced, non notable bus route(s). Almost entirely written as a travel guide Ajf773 ( talk) 09:51, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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I concur Quek157 ( talk) 10:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
And it's been nominated too. Ajf773 ( talk) 10:10, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. apparently my error DGG ( talk ) 15:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Reid Travis

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Not my field, but does not seem to meet the requirement for athletes. DGG ( talk ) 09:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Sigh ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 00:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Free Melania

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Useless trivia/gossip. Not encyclopedic in the least. — JFG talk 09:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Comment/Pending Weak Keep - so I needlessly spent 15 minutes checking notability/sigcov before realising that that wasn't the deletion basis being used by Nom. I'm tempted to say that it isn't either trivia or gossip. The latter is that the cause of the movement may or may not have been created from gossip, but is a full discussed meme/concept, by actual news articles over a reasonable length of time. It isn't trivia given the level of coverage with reasoned analysis on it and any relation of free melania on Trump. I feel that trivia/gossip basis for deletion must be fairly clear.
This leads to why I am pending rather than going keep - nom is correct to point out these grounds for the article as it stands - it reads as gossip and wouldn't appear to add anything. There is easily available data that goes far beyond ceasing to be trivia/gossip - but this article hasn't yet done so. Normally I would be tempted to argue that WP:COMPLETE should mean it remains, but with regards to an article primarily about a living person, I feel a good case can be made for improvement being necessary to remain. Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Pending additional detail to be added to clarify as non-trivial/gossip, I feel weak keep is the correct position. Nosebagbear ( talk) 14:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Merging only really makes sense if it couldn't satisfy notability, which it can. That it is a protest against Trump doesn't mean it should go under. If it is too trivial/gossipy then it doesn't belong in wiki at all. Nosebagbear ( talk) 22:05, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Weak Keep. Should this be notable? No. Is this notable? Yes, by dint of repeated and lasting media coverage. It seems that in issues related to Trump, coverage turns the trivial into notable leading us to Trumpedia - so unless some adds an appropriate clause to WP:NOT (e.g. silly trivia related to the sitting US president is not notable until LASTING is established by coverage persisting 2 years after this term) - it merits an article. Icewhiz ( talk) 16:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. WP:GNG. Hmlarson ( talk) 19:18, 18 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:46, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Pioneer Records

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No evidence of notability. Article has been mostly untouched since 2010.  —  TORTOISE WRATH 09:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - only issued a single notable record in 1987. WP:NOTINHERITED. Bearian ( talk) 21:07, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: certainly fails WP:NCORP, and in any case I'm not convinced this article isn't a hoax. There is no sign of this Pioneer Records having released a Dizzy Gillespie album – the 1987 concert was broadcast by the BBC but doesn't seem to have been released on CD until 2000, by BBC Music. The 1989 concert at the Festival Hall was originally released by the Enja label. The other band and their EP mentioned in the article don't appear to exist. The creator's only other edit to Wikipedia was to insert a joke edit about Chuck Norris in another article. There have since been a couple of other Pioneer Record labels started up to release dance music, but they have nothing to do with this supposed label. Richard3120 ( talk) 21:25, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:32, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Newsclick

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Fails the rigor of WP:NCORP.One news-article do not maketh encyclopedic notability. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. — Spaceman Spiff 12:05, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Inshorts

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Fails the rigor of WP:NCORP.Flooded withnews about funding stuff.Typical churnalism-practicing-sources. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:30, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete and redirect to Asha News. Consensus that content doesn't belong but possible search term, so deleting and redirecting. — Spaceman Spiff 07:48, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Jhabua news

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Seeking a redirect to Asha-News(which may be another non-notable channel), for now.Nil coverage in other reliable sources. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:28, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

The Citizen (India)

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Well.....A lot of eminent personalities have written pieces on the website.Nothing more, nothing less.And, zero mentions in reliable sources apart from some brouhaha over some spotlight grabbing stunts w.r.t to the Tarun Tezpal rape-case. ~ Winged Blades Godric 09:25, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete As per nominator's comments. Plus, seems to be some bias in rebranding widespread criticism as a rise to 'prominence'. Any other facts on the page are simply referenced to the publication itself. Norcaes ( talk) 15:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to Attila (metalcore band). Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Soundtrack to a Party

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I cannot seem to find reliable indepth coverage--not even an AllMusic review. There is discogs and music download sites but those certainly do not count toward GNG TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 02:33, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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@ Sam Sailor: Sorry for the delay. I have been a frequent participant in album AfDs for the past few months and have noticed that this recommendation is becoming more frequent. As you said, it's a fair policy-based solution and I have no problem with it for sketchy album articles in general. But while redirects are cheap and easy, so is reversing them, and instead of just eliminating the data we leave open the chance for someone to bring it back into the light again and again. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 23:51, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Doomsdayer520: No worries. Alternatives to deletion is an often overlooked part of our deletion policy, and redirects from albums to e.g. an artist article or a discography article are so common we even have a specific WP:RCAT for these cases: {{ R from album}}.
I can't see anything in the article history that suggests we would have edit warring over a redirect. No need to cross bridges before we come to them. And should a problem arrise, a typical scenario would be an IP editor restoring the article without better sourcing, then a simple solution would be to put the redirect under WP:PCPP and eventually WP:SEMI, should the problem persist. In retaining the article's history rather than deleting it, we not only comply with deletion policy, we also comply with editing policy, and leave a little window open for someone to source the article adequately, rather than start from scratch.
Even if a case was made for deleting the current article for whatever reason, a Delete and recreate as redirect !vote would be more logical rather than just Delete: this title typically got 20–30 daily views in April, and if it did not exist and someone requested it at WP:AFC/R, I would not hesitate with creating it as an {{ R from album}}. Sam Sailor 17:30, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Sam Sailor: Well explained as always, but a question remains. This collection of policies appears to be so well established that it might as well be the outcome for most, or all, album AfDs. So why have discussions? If someone decides an album article should be deleted, when they hit "XfD" (or they start it manually), should the system just tell them to redirect to the artist's article and see if anyone reverses it later? --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 21:27, 21 May 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Doomsdayer520: We have these discussions, I think, because Twinkle makes it far too easy to hit XfD, and does not come with a reminder saying "Before nominating an article, remember to consider alternatives to deletion" the same way the edit notice does. I am sure a function could be added to Twinkle that searched for e.g. {{ Infobox album}}, found the value in the |artist= parameter and suggested a redirect. Should we make a joint effort to propose such a function at WT:TWINKLE or WP:VPT (or whereever the best venue is)? But until then I think we should try to raise awareness about WP:ATD by participating in the AFDs listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albums and songs. (That is very much a reminder to myself.) ... Perhaps you would reconsider your "delete" !vote in this discussion? Best, Sam Sailor 07:36, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Evolver Music Inc.

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Non-notable company with no sources provided to back up claims. Tinton5 ( talk) 01:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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I mistakenly put award-winning and corrected since Betty Moon was actually nominated for multiple awards while on A&M/Universal records. This is now fixed, and all citations, links and relevant stats have been added to back the relevancy of the label. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbobbradley123 ( talk • contribs) 19:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect to Betty Moon: fails WP:NCORP and WP:NMUSIC. I can only find ten releases by the label, all of which are Ms Moon's own output. Of the references added by Mrbobbradley123, two fail to mention Evolver Music at all, three are simply "released on the Evolver Music label" passing mentions, and the only even vaguely noteworthy reference is the Soundgirls blog, in which Ms Moon writes her own article and uses it to plug her label, so it's a primary source. No evidence that this label has any notability beyond its founder. Richard3120 ( talk) 22:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Looks like another case of a self promoting company (links at bottom use words like "official") -- Sau226 ( talk) 09:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 16:59, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Islamictube

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Subject lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Meatsgains( talk) 01:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak Delete - there are multiple significant sources (some given in article) that have a small amount (4 or 5 lines, usually) on Islamictube, with a high repetition of data between them. There are also a couple of books that give a couple of lines on it. It all seems to come together to form a number of strong mentions in reliable sources. Because a large number of weak notability sources is still weak, it remains delete (especially since it is functionally the same couple of duplicated paragraphs), but it only needs a bit more to be a weak keep. Nosebagbear ( talk) 09:45, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - To me, the article's promotional tone fails NPOV. I don't find a clear way with existing sourcing to write an encyclopedic article with improved neutrality without primary sources. Smmurphy( Talk) 17:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

List of DART Bus Routes

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Unsourced list of routes, no evidence of notability. Fails WP:LISTN and WP:NOTDIR Ajf773 ( talk) 09:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 ( talk) 15:25, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Jeff Kassel

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Completely unreferenced and semi-advertorial WP:AUTOBIO (creator = User:JeffKassel) of an actor. While there are notability claims here that might qualify him for an article if they were properly referenced, the article claims nothing about him that's "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to clear WP:GNG -- but all I can find on a Google News search is a few glancing namechecks of his existence in coverage of other things or people, not coverage that's substantively about him for the purposes of helping to establish his notability. Bearcat ( talk) 16:04, 29 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. — Spaceman Spiff 04:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Thrillophilia

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I fail to see any significant and/or non-trivial coverage in reliable sources.Typical news about aspects of funding and/or promo-interviews and/or PR-releases.Fails WP:NWEB and/or WP:GNG. ~ Winged Blades Godric 12:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. — Spaceman Spiff 04:52, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

RummyCircle

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Fails WP:NWEB as well as WP:NCORP.No non-trivial and/or significant coverage in reliable sources. ~ Winged Blades Godric 12:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Delete as per nomination. VasuVR ( talk, contribs) 08:45, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Tagged for notability since February, with no improvements. Concerted searches on the net in English find only trivial mentions already cited in article: that she wrote these two plays and died in a plane crash. That's it. I tried searching in Japanese, but found nothing, not even a confirmation of the kanji of her name. This is not enough to pass WP:GNG or WP:AUTHOR, though if someone can find sufficient print materials, I will withdraw. Michitaro ( talk) 08:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Can you explain? To prove notability, there needs to be significant coverage that "addresses the topic directly and in detail" ( WP:SIGCOV). None of the sources cited--and none that could be found in net searches--do that. They offer nothing more than "A Japanese woman died at age 28 in a plane crash after writing 2 plays." Nothing about her birth, education, career, her writing style, approach to theater, specifics of her death, etc. Even her real name is unknown. Nothing. You cannot create an article from that. Michitaro ( talk) 12:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Clear consensus for deletion. North America 1000 20:23, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Hellointern

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Some references have been addedsince the previous Af d. But almost all ofthem are at best advertorials--disguised press releases of the sort so common in Indian newspapers. The article in Economic Times, is not a press release, but it covers several such enterprises, with just a mention of this one among the others DGG ( talk ) 08:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. North America 1000 20:19, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Deleted in February 2018 - no more notable since then. Fails WP:BIO. References are routine announcements. Promotional article. There are interviews with a DIFFERENT Mike Aho at Vice and Hypebeast. Edwardx ( talk) 09:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 08:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:CORPDEPTH just a regular nurse staffing business nothing remarkable here. Should have been AfD'd not sent to Draft where we can't as easily have a deletion discussion involving notability. Legacypac ( talk) 14:43, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Enigma msg 08:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Doesn't meet the criteria of WP:ENTERTAINER B dash ( talk) 08:03, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 17:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Doesn't meet the criteria of WP:ENTERTAINER B dash ( talk) 08:02, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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http://scmp.com/lifestyle/fashion-beauty/article/2146391/miss-hong-kong-pageant-runner-who-was-big-winner-when , South China Morning Post (since 3 day ago) http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2008-07/23/content_6868870.htm , China Daily http://english.sina.com/p/1/2008/0720/172356.html , Sina english — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.50.214.138 ( talk) 11:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC) reply

I added reliable sources in Main article and re-create new version and wiki style.

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:18, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NACTOR. The majority of his work is in short films, can only find blogs and interviews as sources. Rogermx ( talk) 15:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete When the article itself says an actor is best known for a film with a redlinked title, that's a bad sign. There is no indication in the article or in any searches that there has been any significant notice paid or that this actor's roles have had any impact. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 05:51, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Delete No indications of notability, most of the article promotes the founders and the services, entirely promotional, fails WP:SPIP. References fail the criteria for establishing notability, fails WP:ORGIND. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing ++ 17:00, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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WP:BLP of a musician, with no strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC and no strong reliable source coverage to carry him over WP:GNG in lieu. The strongest notability claim here is winning an award ("Indian Summer Music Award") that is not major enough to pass NMUSIC #8 in and of itself; while this tries to drag the word "Grammy" into things to make him sound more notable, he was not a Grammy nominee in his own right, but merely a session musician on somebody else's album (which is not a notability freebie at all). And performing at "numerous nationally advertised powwows, festivals, and churches" only counts as a pass of NMUSIC #4 (touring) if media produce and publish editorial content about the tour (e.g. concert reviews), and is not an automatic pass just because touring has been stated. But the only sources here are a blurb's worth of content about him in an overview article about one festival, and a brief glancing mention of his existence in a press release about a new age seminar. This is not enough coverage to make him notable, but the article claims nothing about him that's "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be sourced much better than this. Bearcat ( talk) 19:15, 9 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:44, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:45, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:45, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America 1000 20:15, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Next to no discography, and only coverage is in a niche blog and that was after his death, which does not establish notability. Mentioned in passing in other sources. sixtynine • whaddya want? • 05:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 08:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Promoting of new minor business. Glorified with business listing and opening news. No indepth independent sources to pass WP:NCORP, no evidence of notability. – Ammarpad ( talk) 15:49, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Enigma msg 23:25, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP. They generate a lot of PR coverage from conducting surveys but the company itself receives no coverage. SmartSE ( talk) 10:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak Delete I'm inclined to go with nom - they receive a lot of mentions in various places, but only a few meeting WP:SIGCOV, including the actual Financial Times ref. The other bits are fasttrack working with the FT, and their paragraphs on each company on the list come across as more like advertising rather than reliable sources. Nothing else cropped up in my WP:BEFORE sweep. Nosebagbear ( talk) 13:13, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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I'm not clear on what the claim to notability is here. This is basically a resume and I'm not finding any substantial sourcing. Perhaps there are sufficient sources in another language, but as is, this article doesn't seem like it needs to exist. Marquardtika ( talk) 20:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Delete: as non-notable actor, specializing in guest appearances on television serials. Quis separabit? 02:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. I would close this as delete, but no one has addressed the concerns expressed by the article creator, and evidently aren't inclined to do so. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 20:54, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Speedy deleted before, now time for a full AfD. Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:BIO. Run-of-the-mill businessman. Legion M is of marginal notability, so hard to see how Scanlan could be notable. Promotional article, created by a WP:SPA, who has been repeatedly warned for COI editing. Edwardx ( talk) 09:46, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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Hi - I would like to address these two comments: "Struggling to find any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources" - citations from his page include Variety, NBC News, USA Today, Forbes, and LA Times.

"run of the mill businessman" - Paul has founded two companies which have secured hundreds of millions in funding (see MobiTV and Legion M pages: /info/en/?search=Legion_M, /info/en/?search=Legion_M) and are working to shape the technology and distribution models of the entertainment industries. MobiTV was the first company to stream live television to mobile devices, which is certainly a notable accomplishment. He is currently President of MobiTV.

Additionally, Paul's co-founder in Legion M and MobiTV (Jeff Annison) has a Wikipedia page that is very similar in source material and length, and his page has no comment for deletion: /info/en/?search=Jeff_Annison. Alexanderson89 ( talk) 00:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Austin Wild

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Appears to fail WP:GNG with minimal local news coverage (all from the same source Community Impact Newspaper, mostly brief mentions in the "Local Events" section and the one article about the Wild signing a lease to play in the H-E-B Center, which they have since lost) and a few WP:ROUTINE game coverage from other teams. The article seems to have been created with "presumed notability" as they claim they are professional, however, there is no guideline for such a claim in WP:NORG (specifically WP:ORGSIG) and we must judge on GNG alone. As this is currently a travel-only team that played a single home game (of which, I can find no independent coverage from against a semi-pro team), it is either WP:TOOSOON for significant coverage or possibly just not notable. Yosemiter ( talk) 17:56, 7 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was Merge with Theories of urban planning.

Radical planning

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This article is a theory within urban planning and urban theory. I recommend that it be merged with urban planning under one of the subsections. For the AFD reasoning, this article only has one source and that source is WP:UNDUE academic research. It is not notable enough to have a stand alone page at this time. The existing page has been around for some time, it at least needs some secondary sources to not be WP:PROFRINGE. Randomeditor1000 ( talk) 16:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep. I'm not really familiar with urban planning / urban theory concept at all, so my ability to evaluate sources in the content field is poor. That said, Google Scholar returns a lot of hits on the topic, some of which ( here, for example pdf link not so much working, but this article) seem to be quite independent of the originators of the term. Radical planning also appears to have been discussed here, in The Oxford Handbook of Urban Planning. I don't doubt that our current article has undue weight problems (and, in general, is just a lousy little stub). But I don't think this is a WP:FRINGE topic at all; fringe theories don't get section-level coverage in Oxford University Press books. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 13:40, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Comment, the link to the first source "Insurgent Planning" is broken. I personally would love to have the range of all planning theory on wikipedia, but WP:ISNOT a compendium of lesser or vague urban theory terms, nor is it a place for cutting edge ideas or practices (and there are many, trust me, urban planning is a field of acronyms, ideas, theories, practices many of which are not widely accepted). WP:OR applies to the first source. The second may be helpful but it is aspirational and based on WP:OR sources rather then being specifically encyclopedic. Randomeditor1000 ( talk) 20:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
I'm really not interested in wading into this field of study. But I do think that an Oxford-published book cannot possibly constitute "original research" as we use that term in Wikipedia: a policy which prevents editors here from engaging in original research themselves. Squeamish Ossifrage ( talk) 20:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Oxford Publishing publishes a number of different books, that doesn't make them wholly devoid of original research. In fact if you read the passages, you would note that the authors base their specific phrasing not in general, but based on three very specific research papers. A summary of original research is just that, still research. Let me give a contrast when I go search the American Planning Association's website [1] for radical planning I don't get anything related to this topic. Sure there are research papers that reference it but it is not generally as notable or used in common parlance like rational planning or synoptic planning. Randomeditor1000 ( talk) 15:09, 17 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Allauddin Siddiqui

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Notability? ~Moheen (keep talking) 04:57, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Union School District, San Jose. czar 03:03, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Union Middle School

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Fails to establish notability through reliable third-party sources. JTtheOG ( talk) 02:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Poletik

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Article about a YouTube series, referenced only to its own self-published content about itself with no evidence of reliable source coverage about it shown at all. As always, WP:NMEDIA does not confer an automatic inclusion freebie on every bit of media content that exists -- notability depends on it being the subject of coverage about it in media other than itself. Bearcat ( talk) 01:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. T. Canens ( talk) 23:05, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Bahati Remmy

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Subject lacks notability and significant coverage in reliable sources. Appears to be WP:ONEEVENT Meatsgains( talk) 03:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Why do you want to delete it... It has the links.. Check at the bottom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasaijaivan ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 14 February 2018 (UTC) reply

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References

  1. ^ Website Search. American Planning Association https://www.planning.org/search/?keyword=radical+planning. Retrieved 17 May 2018. {{ cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= ( help)
  2. ^ http://press.vosd.tv/video/t_9EZOMN9JpMU
  3. ^ http://matookerepublic.com/2017/01/09/nbs-journalist-bahati-remmy-in-fear-as-mysterious-man-stalks-spies-and-threatens-her-at-jinja-court/
  4. ^ https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/uganda-media-crackdown_us_56d5d6f5e4b0bf0dab33808c
  5. ^ https://hrnjuganda.org/?p=2557
  6. ^ https://www.howwe.biz/news/entertainment/10906/i-was-man-handled-and-sexually-harassed-by-police
  7. ^ http://press.vosd.tv/video/t_FuC6TqCIAds
  8. ^ http://enewsug.com/journalist-bahati-remmy-rewarded-big-at-nbs-tv/
These seem mostly to be videos and websites. The NBC "awards" are self-described as: After having Lunch with the CEO Kin Kariisa , I walked away with three awards and three Certificates of recognition. I have been awarded for being the most Daring reporter, Best person of the week and NBS TV Personality in other media. I have also won A cash prize, and a Dinner Voucher for two. You can't, with a straight face, be proposing that these demonstrate notability, right? Agricola44 ( talk) 18:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn with no outstanding delete !votes. (non-admin closure) GSS ( talk| c| em) 15:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Pur (Belgaum)

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No notability demonstrated in the article whatsoever, only one source listed, and the entire article comes out to one sentence (not including a sparsely-populated infobox). - zfJames Please ping me in your reply on this page ( chat page , contribs) 01:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Keep per WP:DEFACTO-- Александр Мотин ( talk) 13:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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@ Gene93k: I wondered if there was a rule like that somewhere, but I didn't see it in the books. Thanks for pointing it out! Show me as requesting discussion closure. - zfJames Please ping me in your reply on this page ( chat page , contribs) 14:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. czar 02:52, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Pavle Stanimirovic

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Fails WP:NAUTHOR, WP:BLPCRIME, WP:NJOURNALIST and most importantly WP:ANYBIO. John from Idegon ( talk) 01:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

  • DELETE This article certainly fails WP:PERPETRATOR, but the fellow has a lot of media coverage... I'm somewhat conflicted, but I say 'delete' because there is not a lot of coverage that isn't incidental (i.e. he happens to be referenced as an 'expert' on a specific crime group in a few articles). - zfJames Please ping me in your reply on this page ( chat page , contribs) 01:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Indeed, my thought exactly. There's a clear failure of notability due to his criminal history, a clear failure of notability pertaining to him being an author and all other coverage of him is simply name checking. There is nothing even faintly resembling coverage in detail in multiple reliable sources, totally independent of the subject. John from Idegon ( talk) 02:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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The result was merge to Brookfield, Connecticut#Arts and Culture. czar 02:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Brookfield Library

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small library, does not meet WP:ORG. In particular, it does not clear the WP:AUD requirement. Rusf10 ( talk) 01:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Comment Does this not meet inherent notability because it's part of NRHP? SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 13:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Nevermind, looks like it's non-contributing to that list. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 13:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
The former Joyce Memorial Library was apparently located in the old town hall building on Whisconier Road which is part of the Brookfield Center Historic District (Brookfield, Connecticut) and now the historical society/museum. [9] [10]. 24.151.116.12 ( talk) 16:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Yeah, good point. I wouldn't say that qualified it then, this isn't an article about that building. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 17:10, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Does anyone else think it might be appropriate to mention that old location and its history and architecture as part of the history of the library within this article? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 19:50, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Sure, that's a good bit of history for sure. I just want to make sure we don't fall under the assumption that adding that bit of information means it's notable. Just because it was once in a building that later became an historic site won't help this page with its AfD. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 20:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Okay, but if this article is given substantial enough information on the NRHP contributing property (enough to make it virtually dually about the current location as the NRHP former location), then it should, as mentioned above, be inherently notable. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 20:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Because at that point it's better and more accurate to make a page just for that building. No one looking for information on "165 Whisconier Rd" is going to think to look up a wikipedia article of the library that was housed in it decades ago. SEMMENDINGER ( talk) 20:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Agree, If there is enough sourcing to create a separate article about the historic building, I would not oppose it. The subject of this article is the town library which has not occupied that building in over 40 years.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 20:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
Yes, I do. Here [11] is an old era photo that shows the old town hall with a "Joyce Memorial Library" sign over the front door. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC) reply
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