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The result was Delete and redirect to Downtown Disney (Walt Disney World). Randykitty ( talk) 12:38, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Store at Disney World selling Disney art sourced to the store's website. Disney stores, or stores in a theme park, are not inherently notable, and this one hasn't garnered significant coverage from secondary sources. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 23:39, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to Walt Disney World Downtown Disney (Walt Disney World) since it's Disney-related. that's where it's located. – Davey2010 • (talk) 00:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete (or Redirect in the Alternative). As a single store in much larger corporate, this is not notable. I do not think there needs to be a redirect, as most people searching for the term are problem searching for the company's actual art and retail store. Nonetheless, I am amenable to a redirect, but I suggest any redirect goes to Downtown Disney Downtown Disney (Walt Disney World), as that is where the store is actually located.-- danntm ^T _C 03:26, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Clarifying redirect to appropriate Downtown Disney.-- danntm ^T _C 04:49, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete No evidence that this store is notable, and, as Danntm said, most people searching for this term would probably be looking for Disney art (the store is only the third google result for art of disney), not this store (although I wouldn't necessarily oppose a redirect from The Art of Disney Store to Downtown Disney (Walt Disney World)). -- Ahecht ( TALK
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The result was speedy keep. per WP:SK#1. Nomination withdrawn with no outstanding delete votes. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 • (talk) 02:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Blatant WP:PROMO. Came up on RfD as an alternative in a search. Patently not WP:WORLDWIDE. Si Trew ( talk) 23:05, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Sorry I may have listed this twice – Twinkle let me down at the last moment. So if you have two, please combine them: if I start fiddling it will only make it worse. Best wishes Si Trew ( talk) 23:08, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Keep The New Yorker, New York Times and Oregonian sources in the article look reliable enough, and besides that I found some other coverage in reliable sources: [1] [2] [3] [4] This seems to be enough to meet WP:CORP quite easily. Jinkinson talk to me 23:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep per sources found above. – Davey2010 • (talk) 00:13, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• It might need some work to expand it to the present situation where there are now a couple of "Pok Pok" restaurants in the US. As Thai restaurants go, this one is fairly notable. The owner and chef of Pok Pok, Andy Ricker, has won the 2011 James Beard Foundation Best Chef for NW United States with it. I do a lot of work on Thai cuisine articles here on WP and I wrote the article on this notable chef. Here are some news articles: LA-Times story on upcoming LA Pok Pok, World famous in Oregon ;-), reliable food mag, Vice magazine interview, named a "Game changer" by the NY Times, Bon Appetit magazine regularly names Pok Pok, Bon Appetit names Pok Pok number 8 in list of 20 most important restaurants of US 2013, Village voice, another Villagevoice interview. It's not often that a (chain of) restaurants gets this much exposure. It's also difficult to view Pok Pok separately from chef Andy Ricker. User:Conifer, who wrote the Pok Pok article, is someone from Oregon I saw, and probably proud that a Portland restaurant and chef became so famous. I think it might actually be a good idea to change the Pok Pok article into a redirect to the Andy Ricker article and include some additional refs there? - Takeaway ( talk) 00:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • I don't think a redirect is necessary. Just a bit of work on the article itself. It clearly meets notability standards. ---- Another Believer _{( Talk)} 01:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. Hard to see how this is promotional. Many reliable sources have covered this restaurant. The New York Times has reviewed it twice, and Pete Wells even gave it two stars. [5] [6]. Pburka ( talk) 01:32, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Disclaimer: I created the article by moving content to the main space, but perhaps I should have expanded the article a bit more. Still, the article could easily be expanded from plenty of sources. Consider it a work in progress…. ---- Another Believer _{( Talk)} 01:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Withdraw my nomination, if I may, and save us all the bother? It looked to me like a single-user account creating a single article (i.e advertising their own wares): patently it isn't with these contribs. But it did seem that way; the addition of the restaurant reviews by the sole contributor to the article tended to smell a bit fishy to me. I don't mind being wrong and that others disagree, I am fine with. Thanks for your attention. But I was not sure restaurant reviews, wherever published, really count as RS, unless RS is short for resumé: it depends who pays the bill. Si Trew ( talk) 02:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Snow keep. It's clear that while WP:NOT#DICT exists, there's evidence that the article can be expanded as Altamel said and as Andrew said it's not a new word and not a dictionary entry, which places it outside the NOT#DICT scope. ( non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 01:18, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Vehicle dweller

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Neologism- yes, its been used a few times, but alas, that's true of all neologisms, WP:NOT#DICT though. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:58, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep The topic's title is not a new word; it's a phrase composed of quite standard words. The page looks nothing like a dictionary entry - no focus on a particular word; no etymology; no grammar; no usage. Andrew ( talk) 23:24, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep The article is not just a neologism, it's a phenomenon that has been covered in depth by multiple U.S. news sources. See articles by Businessweek, The New York Times, and TIME Magazine. Since this article can be expanded beyond just a dictionary definition, I !vote keep. Altamel ( talk) 01:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Disambiguate between Vandwelling and Homelessness, either of which might be referred to in some instances with this name. Selectively merge content – at least the sources – as necessary. Cnilep ( talk) 05:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Procedural Keep: I reviewed this AfD filed by the nom yesterday, and found a blizzard of high quality, substantive sources (including the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone magazine, the Associated Press and Newsweek), demonstrating that the nom didn't make the slightest effort to source the article, as WP:BEFORE requires he do before filing an AfD. I checked his contribution history, and found to my shock that in the course of over five hundred edits he made over the last two days, he filed the astonishing number of 51 AfDs, some of them as little as three minutes apart. This is absurd, and worth taking to AN/I, but in the meantime these AfDs ought to be pulled. Ravenswing 09:11, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete. Randykitty ( talk) 12:40, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable college American football player, fails WP:NCOLLATH. — teb728 t c 22:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Comment - I haven't had a chance to do a comprehensive search to do a notability analysis yet, but this entire article is one big copyright violation per WP:COPYVIO. Looks like a straight cut-and-paste job from the Boston College sports website. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 01:29, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment - WP:COPYVIO permits the use of materials if permission from the author exists, please feel free to contact the copyright holder whom has permitted the use of this data to generate the framework of a wikipedia article for Nick Rossi. TheCustos ( talk) 17:32, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• LOL @ TheCustos. Yeah, I'll get right on that. We delete COPYVIO material from hundreds, if not thousands of Wikipedia articles every day, including both text and images. FYI, permission to use copyright materials must come from the rights holder before, not after publication, and even then Wikipedia policy has a strong preference for using "free content" material in its articles, not copyright material. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 18:03, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Speedy delete - Copyright violation and fails WP:GNG and WP:NCOLLATH. -- Hirolovesswords ( talk) 23:00, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete Non-notable college football player. Apart from the obvious WP:COPYVIO mentioned above, the subject does not satisfy the specific notability guidelines for either college athletes per WP:NCOLLATH (no major awards or records) or football players (never played in a regular season game in the NFL, CFL, etc.). Subject received a fair amount of WP:ROUTINE post-game coverage in college, bit lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources to satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 15:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was merge to List of Mega64 episodes. Black Kite (talk) 17:36, 29 September 2014 (UTC) reply

List of Mega64 episodes (season 1)

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Here's the odd thing: there exists List of Mega64 episodes (season 1) and List of Mega64 episodes (season 3) but List of Mega64 episodes (season 2) was apparently deleted out of hand without a discussion that I can find (neither at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mega64 episodes (season 2) nor Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mega64 (season 2) which was a later name). So we need to either restore season 2 or get rid of seasons 1 and 3, I would think (this is dual nomination for both articles).

Mega64 is a real thing and has an article, and there was an earlier deletion discussion for Mega 64 episodes generally, here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Life Inside A Console (at that time each episode had an article). The decision (by me) was to merge these into season articles. The "vote" FWIW was 5/4/5 Keep/Delete/Merge, so apparently some people think or thought that individual Mega 64 episodes are or were worth describing.

But now we have a non-parallel situation (articles exist for some seasons but have been deleted for others). So let's delete these or ask for the deleted one to be restored, or merge it all into the Mega64 article (already kind of long). I don't care which.

I will point out that it's been quite a few years now and there's been no improvement in the (essentially nonexistent) refs, and any improvement seems less and less likely as times goes by. So instead of these zombie articles hanging around unref'd forever I'd be inclined to send them to the mass converter. Herostratus ( talk) 18:57, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Comment The original S2 list was tagged with a speedy deletion for promotion and then deleted via "19:24, 2012 November 18 RHaworth deleted page List of Mega64 episodes (season 2) (Excessively promotional advertising of obscure DVD series with detailed plot summaries.)" I have looked at the page at the time of deletion and it was literally 4-5 para long plot summaries of each episode, and while I wouldn't have tagged it speedy, it would be prime deletion material per WP:NOT#PLOT. Note that this list is effective written in the same style as the S2 list was in at deletion. This is not a reflection of my opinion on this particular nom, only to help clear up what happened with the earlier list. -- MASEM ( t) 20:39, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

Yeah, OK, Speedy, although I don't see what the criteria could have been... "complete and utter fancruft" or "slam-dunk delete" are not speedy criteria considering that Mega64 exists. And it also shouldn't te4chnically have been speediable on grounds of having been through an AfD, although there there's really no way for the deleting person to have known that. But whatever, not important. I do agree that this is cruft probably and that these other articles should be deleted also, just want stuff to match. Herostratus ( talk) 21:40, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

I will agree that the deletion by speedy without given a proper speedy CSD reason was a bad call, it should have been processed in the proper manner. It still would have likely been deleted or merged, but we have processes for this reason just in case. -- MASEM ( t) 22:00, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

• Merge to List of Mega 64 episodes. Mega64 is a notable web show, and if the synopses were trimmed down, a list article for all seasons would be certainly reasonable. -- MASEM ( t) 20:41, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply
  • But Mega64 already has a list of episode titles (and List of Mega64 episodes is just a redirect to Mega64). Cutting them down... is this worthwhile? I suppose cutting to once sentence to indicate which games are referenced (this would be unref'd original research though). I'm certainly not going to do it without some reliable external refs to work from. I mean, this was a public-access show sold on DVD by mailorder... do future generation need anything like this level of detail? Apparently the Mega64 podcast is something different albeit by the same people... even the refs for the main Mega64 are quite poor both as reliable refs and showing any notability... I would say the bare list of episodes we already have in Mega64 is sufficient. Herostratus ( talk) 21:40, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply
    • Yes, I'm thinking a one or two line sentence to give the gist of each episode would be certainly fine. If this can fit in Mega64's article, then that should stay there, but a separate list would be okay if there are size problems. -- MASEM ( t) 22:00, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply
      • Not sure how you'd summarize "First this happened, then that happened, then he put on a hat, then the other thing happened, then something else" which is kind of what we're working with here. Just saying "Various hijinks occur" for each episode isn't helpful. The only way I can think of is "In this episode, they made references to Duke Nukem, Trail of Tears, and Let's All Shoot Things", but how could you know that? You'd need a third-party ref (ref'ing to the primary source (the video), if you can even find a copy, is sketchy at best IMO). And who's going to bell the cat? Herostratus ( talk) 22:55, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply
        • Plot summaries can be presumed sourced to the primary work w/o citation assuming that the work is notable (read: in the presence of secondary sources that assert the work's notability). And despite the hijinks, there is a thin plotline for each episode, so ignoring the randomness that goes off on that, a sentence or two is sufficient to get the point of the episode across. -- MASEM ( t) 23:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply
          • So, are you gonna do this? Herostratus ( talk) 22:27, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete both. I deleted the Season 2 list in 2012 for "excessively promotional advertising of obscure DVD series with detailed plot summaries". If someone had asked me back then to delete Seasons 1 and 3 for the same reason, I would have agreed. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 21:53, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Merge bits in to List of Mega64 episodes then Delete - Nothing much to say other than merge & delete. – Davey2010 • (talk) 22:43, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Merge into episode list page over redirect, using MOS:TV guidelines for episode summaries. Then delete for improper article titling. — Wylie pedia 05:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) -- Writing Enthusiast ^☎ 20:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Tyranny (Julian Casablancas + The Voidz album)

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Seemingly a promotion for an album that hasn't been released yet, a side project for Casablancas on the musician's own label. There are a couple of very brief announcements online, based on a press release by Casablancas. I don't see any basis for an article yet. Sionk ( talk) 09:47, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

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Keep coverage extends far beyond press releases/brief announcements, and includes the following three articles in RSs: [7] [8] [9] Also, meets TenPoundHammer's Law. Jinkinson talk to me 13:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

Each of those three sources are dated the same day and quote the same blurb from a press release. The remainder of each article is generally about Voidz, which I suppose may be useful for the (poor) Voidz article. Sionk ( talk) 16:37, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete No significant coverage in WP:RS, per User:Sionk. May become notable in future, though. GoldenRing ( talk) 04:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Album by a clearly notable artist that is released in two weeks time and has already received coverage from SPIN, Rolling Stone, Rolling Stone again, Pitchfork, NME, Billboard, and several others. It will certainly be reviewed by multiple major publications within weeks, so this discussion is really a waste of time. -- Michig ( talk) 08:32, 9 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. I mostly agree with what Michig said above. It will be reviewed by major publications and I daresay will be worked on further in the near future. If it is deleted now it will probably just be recreated in a short while by somebody. I believe it has enough notability to stand on its on for the moment, though. Ss 112 14:23, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep per Michig. Also the album appears to be satisfying WP:NALBUMS. It will be released (and reviewed by music publishings) tomorrow. Myxomatosis57 ( talk) 15:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Not really much more to say than what Michig said. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 04:56, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. At this point there's no consensus to delete and it's pretty much a contested PROD. No prejudice against speedy renomination. ( non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 00:06, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Piers Gaveston Society

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I doubt the notability of this society. Sources weak and/or dead. Content and list of members potentially libelous. Entire lead copied from http://martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/sept2008/piers-gaveston-society.html Philafrenzy ( talk) 02:15, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. The current lead isn't entirely identical to Martin Frost's webpage dated 29 September 2008, but the version from January 2008 was, so it seems clear the copying was in the other direction. I agree it needs some cleanup and attention to potential WP:BLP issues, but I can't see deletion is necessary. Reliable sources with significant coverage to satisfy WP:GNG include The Telegraph, London Evening Standard, Daily Mail and much of a chapter of a biography of Hugh Grant published by Random House. Also numerous other newspaper articles at least mention it. Qwfp ( talk) 11:25, 31 August 2014 (UTC) reply

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• I have been bold and removed the table on the grounds that we shouldn't include a list of people that sources say (wrongly) take a lot of drugs and are sexually promiscuous. It could be reinstated just to include the dead (who can't be libelled) Philafrenzy ( talk) 09:08, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Snow Keep. as per @ Ahecht: - consensus outlines an obvious keep ( non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 01:20, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Epcot International Food & Wine Festival

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food festival sourced entirely to the sponsor's website - just short of ADVERT, probably. Not every event at a notable location is notability - as notability is not inherited, lest we have Senior Day at Epcot Center, Armed Services Day at Epcot Center, Gay Day at Epcot Center, or even Senior Skip Day at Epcot Center, the Smith-Jones wedding at Epcot Center, the Suarez' quinceañera at Epcot Center or Goldstein's Bar Mitza at Epcot Center etc. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:07, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Keep Article as it currently stands needs work and better sourcing, but there are a ton of independent reliable sources: [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20], etc. -- Ahecht ( TALK
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Keep - this is a major event that spans a long period and earns notable coverage in area and food media. Jllm06 ( talk) 15:43, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Procedural Keep: I reviewed this AfD filed by the nom yesterday, and found a blizzard of high quality, substantive sources (including the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone magazine, the Associated Press and Newsweek, demonstrating that the nom didn't make the slightest effort to source the article, as WP:BEFORE requires he do before filing an AfD. I checked his contribution history, and found to my shock that in the course of over five hundred edits he made over the last two days, he filed the astonishing number of 51 AfDs, some of them as little as three minutes apart. This is absurd, and worth taking to AN/I, but in the meantime these AfDs ought to be pulled. Ravenswing 18:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep for all the reasons given. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 22:43, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete and redirect to 2014 Ferguson unrest. Randykitty ( talk) 12:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Ronald S. Johnson

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BLP1E. See also Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Thomas_Jackson_(police_officer)_(2nd_nomination) Gaijin42 ( talk) 21:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep and redirect to 2014 Ferguson unrest and merge any useful content. Although he played an important role (he was given the command of policing at Ferguson by Gov. Nixon to reduce the violence), that was a single incident and there are no indications that will be further coverage, so BLP1E applies here. Tom Jackson's is a different situation altogether, which is being discussed in detail at that AFD page. - Cwobeel (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Redirect WP:BLP1E. -- NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep - Condition #3 of WP:BLP1E is not met. Johnson played a significant leadership role in Ferguson, which has been widely documented in sources. WP:1E instructs "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate." The Ferguson events have had an international impact, and it has been publicly discussed by major US political leaders. With hundreds of available sources including coverage in Salon, Christian Science Monitor, Ebony, New York Times, and the Washington Post, the subject fully meets WP:SIGCOV.- Mr X 22:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • So how do you account for Michael Brown, whose death triggered Ferguson, which was widely documented in sources, and whose life was publicly discussed by major US leaders, not having an article? -- NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:34, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply
    • I don't account for it. If you want to create the Michael Brown article and can find enough biographical content, then knock yourself out. My only point is that this subject meets WP:N. There is plenty of biographic content to justify an independent article.- Mr X 22:44, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect WP:BLP1E. EricSerge ( talk) 01:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Redirect per WP:BLP1E. Arzel ( talk) 04:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Redirect. Bloke who did his job in a relatively junior post. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 08:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 00:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Done In 60 Seconds Award

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Unremarkable award referenced by entirely primary sources. RadioFan ( talk) 21:45, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• With just a simple google search and without spending time going over the results:

• http://www.theguardian.com/film/video/2013/mar/26/done-in-60-seconds-blade-runner-video
• http://www.heyuguys.com/empire-done-60-seconds-2014-short-film-competition-report/
• http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/2013/03/06/jameson-empire-done-in-60-seconds-uk-finalists-announced/
• http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/7265123/Done-in-60-seconds-Top-Gun.html

Aside from that, its one of the active rewards from the Empire Rewards. Adding this information to the Empire Awards article page would just clutter it up and removing it all together makes no sense. I fail to see your reasoning of removing an award page from an established award ceremony.

Side note: I don't live in the UK and where i live the local Done in 60 Seconds competition was widely known with amateur film makers. -- Gonnym ( talk) 22:03, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep Per sources provided by Gonnym. Dcfc1988 ( talk) 23:14, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep I agree that topic notability has been established. Appropriate under WP:SALAT and, suitable under WP:LISTN, this would overburden Empire Awards. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 03:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete. Euryalus ( talk) 03:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable website that tends to re-hash other website's news or create barely credible original news stories. Primefac ( talk) 21:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete, no significant third-party coverage. Not even the sources discussing FoxWeekly's latest hoax cover the website itself in any detail. Huon ( talk) 00:28, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep, nice source discussion. — Cirt ( talk) 20:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep, notability is there. Their articles are published on Google news and numerous notable radio stations, celebrities and newspapers have picked up on their original content/articles. — Juice656 ( talk) 04:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep, Just saw Foxweekly today appear on front page news of MySpace as their news staff covered an original article from FoxWeekly. https://myspace.com/article/2014/09/19/fifth-harmony-will-release-album-in-december 98.249.241.179 ( talk) 16:44, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment The Daily Dot says it's a hoax site that uses copyright violations to give itself a veneer or reliability. Admittedly that's some coverage in a reliable third-party source, but not enough to establish notability, and entirely unrelated to the current article content. I don't think we should become a part of the hoax. Huon ( talk) 01:18, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment The Daily Dot article is a 'misleading' or 'false' article. FoxWeekly has ALL its articles circulated through Google News. To get into google news, the publication needs to go under review by Google News Employees in which they perform a DEEP background check and review the content and its originality. Only notable news publications with strong original content are able to get their articles into Google news. FoxWeekly does not have ANY copyrighted content from other sites and does not perform any illegal plagiarism as said in the Daily dot article. FoxWeekly has been publishing articles for close to a year now and the original content has been mentioned and linked by numerous notable newspaper and magazines (MySpace, Huff Post, IGN, Kotaku, GameSpot, Epoch Times, International Business Times, HotNewHipHop...etc.), since its launch. Furthermore, The Daily Dot is NOT a reliable source as it has been known to write misleading or false articles for attention. Their article makes no sense... 98.249.241.179 ( talk) 01:48, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete No sources discussing it in any depth at all. Presence on Google News is not an indicator of either reliability or notability. There's some pretty obvious conflict of interest going on here. Several accounts and ips working almost exclusively on topics related to this website and its owner. -- Daniel (talk) 17:42, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete Rantic.com, and emmayouarenext.com are hosted on the same server. They are connected to FoxWeekly, who where the first Website who broke the News about Emmayouarenext.Foxweekly used to be a youtube spammer group named Swenzy (later "SocialVevo") and emmayouarenext.com resembles one of their previous schemes, a website with a countdown to a supposed announcement about the character Brian from Family Guy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.109.22.152 ( talk) 23:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete . No sources that actually discuss Fox Weekly itself. Fails WP:GNG. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 00:12, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete . This is so obviously not a real company. It's a blog disguised as one. The company has no address and the phone number is an out of date Skype number. FoxWeekly and Rantic are run by the same guy. You can see his articles here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.249.241.179 - The guy has also tried and failed to make an article for his fake company "Rantic", voted to keep this one, and is also an aspiring rap artist nobody has ever heard about. It's embarassing that this article is even kept. 216.110.246.24 ( talk) 07:00, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete Typical case of one-man scamming show trying to use wikipedia to generate a genuine-looking smokescreen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fierman ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment The IP address of the primary contributor here is actually that of a DNS server. The user ( talk) is well-versed in technology, and is trying to hide his or her identity. I believe further investigation should be taken here. As the agency FoxWeekly/Rantic supports censorship of the internet, the user is actually a direct threat to the existence of Wikipedia, and, I am scared to comment on this user with my primary Wikipedia account. I think Wikipedia should get a CheckUser to investigate this account and possibly related dummy accounts which have been in interaction with this account and the same articles, such as Scorpion293 (which has been deleted?), among others. For myself and others concerned with internet censorship, I request that if a corporation is behind these fake users, that Wikipedia make that information public. A DNS-spoofed account should be taken as a serious issue, and investigated thoroughly. — Internetfreedomfighter2002 ( talk) 11:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete We've got exactly one source that's actually about FoxWeekly - the DailyDot article - and the only information it provides is that they're a bunch of barely-relevant plagarists with a history of hoaxes. Any article that stuck to actual, verifiable facts would be entirely about how they're not notable in the slightest, so let's just save time and delete this whole thing as non-notable. - makomk ( talk) 15:13, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete I strongly suspect that the information in the page is non-factual, and that this page was created as part of a massive hoax campaign. Business Insider reports that the supposed owner of the website (listed in the article) is fictitious. While I would say that the "Social VEVO" organization may be WP:NOTABLE, this article is not, and the reason it is maintained is to perpetrate a hoax. -- KRAPENHOEFFER! TALK 20:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete As per the above comments.-- Therexbanner ( talk) 23:54, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Redirect to Faroe Islands Cup. Any content worth merging is available from the article history. Randykitty ( talk) 13:13, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

2014 Faroe Islands Cup Final

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Only editor of this page doesn't want it to be a redirect, despite clear consensus that it should be (see the talk page). So, to make everyone happy and turn this into a win-win situation, and let's just simply delete this once and for all. Not a notable game, the cup final from a country with less than 50,000 people, the winner has never made any impact abroad or received any significant non-local attention. We have a general article on the Faroe Islands Cup, which is more than sufficient. Fram ( talk) 14:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep This is the Department of Deletions. It seems there is consensus for converting to a redirest so please just do it. Whether it should be kept, merged, or redirected should be discussed and decided at the talk page (with informed Wikiproject involvement), not here. I see no requirement for a red link (nor does anyone else?). Thincat ( talk) 16:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • It was done. Repeatedly. Other editor can't seem to accept a redirect though... Fram ( talk) 16:35, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Redirect per the consensus and get the editor blocked for WP:DE. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect - per consensus. Apart from the obvious WP:NOTSTATS issues of the article in its current state, comments above that this is one of the more minor national cups is relevant. there is nothing in this article that could not (and should not) be reproduced verbatim in the season's Cup article. Unless substantial sourced prose can be created this is a completely unnecessary fork. Fenix down ( talk) 10:23, 2 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete - I don't see what purpose a redirect would serve? Giant Snowman 12:31, 2 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Comment - Not sure why this has been relisted, the discussion at WP:FOOTY had three people desiring a redirect (with one unsupported claim to notability) and this discussion has two additional editors desiring a redirect. No editor has made any sustainable argument against this position. Fenix down ( talk) 10:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 00:13, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Unable to determine notability. Seems to be a case of WP:TOOSOON Primefac ( talk) 21:15, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. The Spin reference in particular contains significant coverage. While I couldn't find other pieces that are as definitive, the attention this person has received at notable publications like The Fader [21], Complex [22], and The Source [23] [24] is enough in my view to support an article.  Gongshow    talk 23:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep. The subject has notability from various reliable news outlets. 98.249.241.179 ( talk) 16:47, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Musician has enough notability to have a Wikipedia article. Juice656 ( talk) 16:50, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. ( Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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advertising. Most sources on Google are related or social media The Banner  talk 11:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

In fact a moot discussion, as I only discovered afterwards that this article is a copy and paste recreation (including maintenance templates) that was deleted after a normal AfD and was refused undeletion. So I have tagged it for speedy deletion. The Banner  talk 11:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

In my opinion the speedy deletion request was valid, but user:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz preferred to start edit warring to protect the article. But the first version makes loud and clear that is a cut and paste recreation. Nota bene after a refused undeletion request. I think he is confused by Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Miss Grand International 2014, a declined submission that would have been a content fork of the present artikel under discussion. The Banner  talk 23:47, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Please stop making things up. You posted a speedy-repost request on the article. I declined it, because the original AFD turned on the fact that the pageant hadn't taken place. The current version of the article includes a credible claim that the pageant had been staged in 2013, as well as that it would be staged again this year. That's enough to demonstrate that the speedy-repost request was inappropriate. You're not supposed to restore a declined db-repost unless you dispute that the current and deleted articles aren't substantially identical. Since you don't dispute that, you shouldn't have reinstated the speedy -- and that was the only part of the exchange that approached edit warring. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) ( talk) 23:58, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom - No evidence of any notability, Only crap I've found are all FB/Twitter related. – Davey2010 • (talk) 14:03, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete, as per nomination. Did not meet the general notability guideline-- Richie Campbell ( talk) 02:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep; It seems to be covered in foreign press. [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31]. That would seem to be multiple third-party sources covering the topic. Voice of Vietnam[2] says it is broadcast in over 100 countries. --  dsprc  ^[talk] 13:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per nom - most of these pageants, other than the so called "Big 4" do not have any significant coverage besides the usual Facebook fan pages and pageant websites which do not provide reliable information. GrayFullbuster ( talk) 04:49, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

@ GrayFullbuster: How many of those "most" are broadcast on live television in over half of the planet's countries? That is notable in and of itself. --  dsprc  ^[talk] 00:22, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

@ Dsprc: The info stated by Voice of Vietnam[2] that says "the Miss Grand International 2013 pageant, is live broadcast in more than 100 countries" is part of the promotional material made up by the pageant owner as reflected in the "About Us" section of the official website of the Miss Grand International [32] . In this case, Voice Vietnam is a questionable source for the claim of "live broadcast to 100 countries" since the information was directly lifted from the official website of Miss Grand International which is an apparent and widely considered promotional in nature. Note that the article was written in the future by Voice Vietnam where the broadcast had not taken place at the time of the publication. Aside from the Lets Viet, the article failed to mention any other broadcasters. As an editor stated before (@ Metropolitan90:) in another article, "It would be easier to confirm the pageant's real broadcast situation if the pageant would put their international broadcast schedule on their web site, but they didn't."-- Richie Campbell ( talk) 03:06, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

@ Richie Campbell: The About page doesn't says anything about 100 countries. It says "100s Of Millions Of Media Impressions" and "Over 1.5 Billion People Have Tuned In". VoV's article was written in the past or present tense, either reflecting on the 2012 performance or the then current one and was published online in English in the midst of the event (pub date is 11^th, event runs 8^th-22^nd); so that point is moot. I think the problems we've here with sourcing are that it is primarily an event of the developing world, for which our search engines do not index those internets well (the difficulties of sourcing stuff for India, Africa etc is a well known problem around here, especially non-English content) and that those of us in "the West" have different expectations of the media landscape because of our corporate cultures. --  dsprc  ^[talk] 11:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep as per Dsprc numerous reliable sources easily meets WP:GNG.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:08, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep Putting this up front, I have had serious issues with this nominator failing to acknowledge coverage of events in order to achieve deletion. So I have larded this article up with ten international WP:RS sources, just to show you the coverage he, I submit deliberately, ignored in order to make this nomination. I call that bad faith. Because he is doing this en masse, while also actively trying to delete this entire class of article, I accuse him of trying to do this to make a WP:POINT. It did not take too much work, to get beyond the first couple of pages of unreliable sources on this subject, to get to ones that are more reliable. That said, this article needs more work writing relevant prose by someone who knows more about this style of contest. That is not an acceptable cause for deletion. Trackinfo ( talk) 18:41, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • You have really no other arguments than personal attacks, don't you? The Banner  talk 19:21, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply
    • I do not see it as a personal attack but rather having an issue with your behavior. There is evidence about rapid-fire AfDing articles (see chart).-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 21:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• • • • You are not giving arguments to prove the notability of the pageants and/or contestants. You are just attacking me and my nominations and disrupting AfDs with your list.. The Banner  talk 21:34, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

What reasons do you have to delete the article other than you don't like it?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 21:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

I doubt notability and when I did my research I only found very limited Google hits, often just a few hundred and including Wikipedia, social media and related websites. There is no way that it is a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT as you prefer to claim, but sincere doubt of notability. The Banner  talk 21:50, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

You call what you did research?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 21:54, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

What do you call "Assume Good Faith"? The Banner  talk 21:57, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

( ←) Banner, you wrote I only found very limited Google hits -- is that the extent of your "research" -- put a term in the browser bar, and counted google hits? Did you do any of the required steps before nominating an article beforehand? What, specifically, are your reasons for nominating this article for deletion? Hmmmmm?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 22:20, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

You can find that in the original nomination on the top of this page. The Banner  talk 07:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

But again you are deflecting the discussion from its central point: notability. Why don't give some evidence of the notability? The Banner  talk 07:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

So, your reasons for proposing this nomination are -- "advertising. Most sources on Google are related or social media" -- that's it? So you're basing your nomination on problems with the current article? That's a mistake. Articles can be improved. Before nominating an article for AfD, you are expected to search for additional sources (see step D). You skipped that step. If you had taken two minutes to do that, numerous sources would have popped out. So I am not criticizing you as a person but criticizing your methods, specifically, for not following Wikipedia's guidelines about nominating articles. Since you do not seem to be listening to others who have told you this repeatedly, administrators should consider banning you from nominating more articles for deletion.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 09:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

And again you start with desperate measures and a big WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Why don't you just prove the notability? I have not skipped steps, you just refuse to accept my opinion and convince me that the pageant is notable with reliable sources. Harassing en disruptive editing is not making your case stronger, no matter how hard you shout and roar. Give evidence of notability. The Banner  talk 13:57, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep and edit the article so it is less an "advertizement". There are enough sources (linked above) to establish that the pageant is notable. Wikipedia should have an article on it. If there are issues with the article as it currently reads, we can use the sources that exist to rewrite it. The solution to this one is to rewrite the article, not to delete it. Blueboar ( talk) 13:07, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• I wandered over to the Thai language version of the article to retrieve the title text in its native wiki/language, and then plugged that into Google, which spits out a hundred thousand results, such as MSN Thailand covering the swimwear competition etc. Unable to read Thai, nor being privy to the media ecosystem of Thailand, I've no way to definitively vouch for the reliability of many sources, but they do seem to be numerous. There just isn't that much English language coverage, but we've multi-lingual editors that we can reach out to for assistance in this regard ( Category:User th or others). --  dsprc  ^[talk] 21:21, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • I tried the same but got only 5510 results. But I used the option "the exact word or phrase" instead of "all these words" on the search page. The Banner  talk 21:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply

The title on the Thai Wiki seems to have a typo in it or something. If you use that then Google will suggest the correct spelling, and if Google's suggestion is clicked, it provides the proper results (which I've linked above). One could also simply use the bolded name from the intro of the first paragraph which is the same (that is what I did because I've more faith in our native speakers than some machine; but the machine does verify). Searching with "quotes" is the same as verbatim, you may experiment to verify (the whole process took me like 2 minutes).

With that said, I am in agreement with Blueboar about a rewrite, as the sources turned up in the Thai language search alone seem to indicate broad coverage and notability (who knows for other languages). It may also indicate that there is some validity to Tomwsulcer's claim that The Banner may not have been entirely thorough investigating prior to AfD. --  dsprc  ^[talk] 21:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

No, Sir, there is no validity in Tomwsulcers strange ideas. A quick translation of the Thai page ( [33] showed 6 different sources: two facebook pages, two forums and two related websites. Not a single reliable, independent source. The Banner  talk 23:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete. I am closing this because no more discussion seems to be forthcoming. Given the low participation, this should better be regarded as a PROD-delete than an AfD close. Randykitty ( talk) 13:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Highly promotional BLP, lacks independent sourcing that proves that he is notable and satiesfies WP:GNG The Banner  talk 09:40, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per WP:TNT. Notable but promotional.-- 180.172.239.231 ( talk) 13:37, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Problematic article resembling a resume. Dubious notability. The subject has written some books, has plenty of postnominals, but the article seems to lack serious citations to ascertain the subject's notability per WP:PROF.  Ohc  ^¡digame! 07:41, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Weak delete. A lot of credentials, minor awards, and activity, but nothing that looks strong enough for WP:PROF to me. And the citation record isn't good enough for a pass that way, either. — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:12, 6 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep' His book Electrical steels for rotating machines published by IEE, is in 768 libraries a/c worldcat. That's enough to prove him an authority in his subject. DGG ( talk ) 00:27, 11 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep Article needs cleaning up, but DGG established notability WP:PROF. I am One of Many ( talk) 00:49, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Concensus reflects failure to meet WP:AUTHOR through a lack of significant coverage in reliable third party sources.  Philg88 ^{♦ talk} 06:34, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Lacks coverage in reliable sources. All of the sources presented here are either self-published or are mentions in book catalogues, which only confirm that subject is indeed an author. But these does not establish notability. Vigyani _talk ^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 05:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Keep On Google, so many picture and information are available about her. Her books were best selling. So I think, she's notable. -- Jeeteshvaishya ( talk) 17:13, 3 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete: Google turns up only catalogs, which are barely filled in. Any coverage is tangential related to a book she co-wrote. Fails WP:AUTHOR. BethNaught ( talk) 14:50, 8 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• delete This is a typical page for a non-yet-notable author. There are no 3rd party references. There are no 'bestseller' lists to determine the importance/spread of the author. The books are published by a publisher that is very close to being a vanity press - an "indie" press developed by an author. Such a press *could* become a significant vehicle for books, but it is as yet too young (2011), and from the web site it isn't clear if there is any editorial staff. If books are published without editorial work, then this is not a quality press. LaMona ( talk) 16:00, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete-Too soon, if ever. Wgolf ( talk) 21:22, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus ( non-admin closure) -- Writing Enthusiast ^☎ 17:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The subject lacks wide coverage in reliable sources. The only coverage found at all is in reference to her father Asaram Bapu's involvement in a sex crime. Often family members of the main accuseds feature in the news pieces, which does not make them notable on their own. This article was previously deleted by AfD, and the present one is a very small improvement over the past. Vigyani _talk ^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 03:21, 1 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete - Fails WP:PEOPLE as well as it lacks significant coverage in the reliable sources except the rape case. CutestPenguin ^discuss 13:19, 2 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep I have added few more links related to Bharti Shriji. She is herself a well known spiritualist. lacks of devotees, specifically women devotees from India as well as abroad, follow Bharati Shriji. She is known for her spiritual preaches. -- Jeeteshvaishya ( talk) 18:12, 3 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Unresolved notability for 6 years. NO sources listed whatsoever. Google brings up dependent websites and passing mentions. Mr. Guye ( talk) 22:06, 2 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Keep The problem is one of neglect, not notability. Also, the names of the various competitions in Ireland keeps changing - I think it's now called the "Senior League Cup", I will try to work on improving the sourcing. Fiachra10003 ( talk) 00:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. Sufficient sources have been found to verify the notability of the subject. ( non-admin closure) Writing Enthusiast ^☎ 17:55, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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No indication that this day is notable. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 20:22, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Procedural Keep: I reviewed this AfD filed by the nom yesterday, and found a blizzard of high quality, substantive sources (including the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone magazine, the Associated Press and Newsweek), demonstrating that the nom didn't make the slightest effort to source the article, as WP:BEFORE requires he do before filing an AfD. I checked his contribution history, and found to my shock that in the course of over five hundred edits he made over the last two days, he filed the astonishing number of 51 AfDs, some of them as little as three minutes apart. This is absurd, and worth taking to AN/I, but in the meantime these AfDs ought to be pulled.

  In the case of this article, it's more of the same: WDTV in West Virginia [34], The Daily Star (Bangladesh) [35], the Times of Assam [36], the Manila Bulletin [37], the Hindustan Times [38] ... Ravenswing 18:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• That's not significant coverage - they are WP:TRIVIAL mentions. You seem to argue that any event mentioned or featured is notable solely for the mention or feature. That's not WP:GNG. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Reply: As I mentioned on your talk page when you raised the same issue, you seem badly confused as to what WP:TRIVIA refers to, which is the use of trivia sections within articles; it has nothing to do with notability. This among your apparent lack of understanding of WP:BEFORE leads to questions as to your grasp of Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and I urge you to review them.

  As far as the citations I found, I believe -- and that belief is founded on a decade of examining sources in a couple thousand deletion discussions -- that they are sources which discuss the subject in the "substantial detail" required by WP:N and the GNG. (I didn't bother posting a few which I felt didn't.) I'm quite comfortable for deciding myself what I am arguing and upon what grounds, thanks. Ravenswing 03:52, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep - Per sources found by Ravenswing. Quoting TRIVIA doesn't really make sense. I think the nom is trying to say it's not "significant coverage", but even that isn't really right. The references are full length article dedicated to the subject at hand. Not sure what standard the nom is holding this article to, but it's well above the GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 13:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete. Randykitty ( talk) 13:04, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Fails general notability. Individual appears to be a student with a YouTube account and good grades. Words like "pioneer" and "inspiration" are unsourced, from blogs or from foreign language sources; this article is likely autobiographical. Previously speedy deleted twice, including Dr Roman Saini. Blackguard 19:41, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• KEEP He is an IAS officer and inspiration to thousands of students like me. He has done lots of selfless service for upliftment of downtrodden. Do not delete this page as it will be a loss for poor aspirants of India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram Kumar Patidar ( talk • contribs) 02:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC) — Ram Kumar Patidar ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed Sock. reply
• KEEP It is not an autobiographical article. IAS is the highest permanent job under Government of India, so please give him due respect and refrain from calling him 'a student with a YouTube account and good grades. I have created this article going through all the weblinks, his facebook page and he has no role in writing of this article. I have tried to remove all ambiguous content and strictly adhere to Wikipedia's neutrality policy. So, no need to delete this page now. User:Anish.vikas ( talk • contribs) 02:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC) — Avnish.vikas ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed Sockmaster, and subject of this article. reply

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• DELETE Fails general notability. He's just a low level/entry level apparatchik who seeks to self promote himself by the means of his internet. The article is highly autobiographical in nature and only seeks to promote himself and not give neutral information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uncletomwood ( talk • contribs)

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• Delete. Obviously. Far, far too junior to be notable. Maybe in 20-30 years time! -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:59, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• KEEP Page will be updated soon with all details. Far too junior, are you serious that 'age' is the criterion now. Page is complying to all rules and regualtions of Wikipedia Kottee ( talk) 02:56, 19 September 2014 (UTC) — Kottee ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed Sock. reply

  No, age isn't the criterion. Notability is. He's a junior officer who has achieved nothing significant and held no significant post. We don't have articles on people just because they're IAS officers. Or officers of any other service anywhere in the world. We have articles on people who have been recognised for achieving something notable or who are at the top of their profession. He meets neither of those criteria. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:22, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

  IAS officer is not a prestigious position sir..!? This article helped me to get guidance regarding Civil Service Examination for my Friend. I know this is not advertising or Self Promoting, but happy to read more about him here. I am a new User Still wanted to support this article Just because it helped me and please Dont delete it. A single film heroine is in wiki and why cant a officer from India cant have!?. á$thi 15:09, 20 September 2014 (UTC) — Asthishi ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed Sock.

• Comment. It probably doesn't need to be said, but all three keep voters above are single-purpose accounts which have only edited the article on Dr Saini or articles associated with him. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

  I dont think so the users count but the Reason, he is having many followers in social medias but we got to read more about him here. Thank You! á$thi 15:09, 20 September 2014 (UTC) — Asthishi ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed Sock.

• Delete as per nomination as well as ignore shock puppets. — CutestPenguin ^Hangout 18:53, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

  Brother how you are saying an IAS officer as Puppet?? You do know how tough an Civil Service Examination? CSE is not based on book or Mug up. But it need knowledge that one have to seek and understand it. á$thi 15:09, 20 September 2014 (UTC) — Asthishi ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed Sock.

  Sorry Sir i dint notice Shock Puppet. What is their to nominate sir? It is just a page on autobiography. It is written based on the article mentioned in the reference. If you feel any sentence as such, you can edit it to standard sentence. á$thi 15:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asthishi ( talk • contribs) — Asthishi ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Confirmed Sock.

• Delete, regretfully, since he is clearly an inspirational person. Just not notable. I have gone through all the references in the article, which made it very clear to my mind that this is a case of somebody who is up and coming - so there cannot be an article about him yet. The article is also very promotional in tone, but that can be fixed with some rewriting. The lack of notability can't be fixed by editing the article. -- bonadea contributions talk 12:21, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Weak delete, generally I agree with bonadea, Saini seems to be up-and-coming and has been noticed by a small number of blogs/entrepreneur websites (which do not seem to be journalistic news sources). Success and talent aren't the same thing as ' notability'. Sources from his employer, IAS, or quotes from him count very little towards proving any importance. Sionk ( talk) 13:38, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep. In agreement with bonadea, the page definitely needs to be revamped to remove all the promotional content but the references mentioned, specially the Hindi citations are from reliable news publishers with him as the sole subject of those references, so according to me clearly not the case of notability. However content seems promotional and self-advertising which needs to be removed. Cheers Mr RD 20:30, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete Per nom fails WP:GNG at present. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 13:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete Does not meet WP:GNG, and however distinguished he is as such, he is just a student who gave a TEDx talk. — innotata 04:49, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Paul Erik ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:19, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Article has been tagged for years. I don't see anything in the bibliography or on Google that suggests notability--the requirements in WP:GNG are not met, and I don't think that those in WP:PROF are met either. A PROD was removed, which is fine, but the rationale, "is published author", is not enough for notability per our standards. Drmies ( talk) 18:47, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• keep - Has appeared as an expert commentator, is a published author, psychoanalyst, psycho-sociologist and professor at ESCP-EAP European School of Management. Zambelo; talk 19:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete. 2 million books are now published per year. Writing a couple of books and appearing on a TV show is not sufficient for notability. Also, there is no analysis of this person in secondary sources, which used to be a requirement for an article but it seems is garbage now. Abductive ( reasoning) 23:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete There just isn't substantial coverage in reliable, secondary sources. As noted, writing a book and appearing on TV is not the same thing as being covered in depth by such sources. Also fails WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR. Nwlaw63 ( talk) 00:45, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete - Fails WP:N on all counts. - Cwobeel (talk) 01:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete Dismal citation record (all in the single digits). Does not meet GNG and PROF even less. -- Randykitty ( talk) 05:48, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete - Does not meet Notability at WP:GNG, WP:BIO, WP:AUTHOR, WP:PROF or anywhere else I can think of. -- Tgeairn ( talk) 05:03, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete - being published is not only run of the mill, it's what scholars are expected to do at a minimum. Also, he is not listed as a member of the faculty at ESCP, so I can't verify the basic facts in the article. Bearian ( talk) 16:14, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete: None of the sources provided comes even close to meeting any of our notability guidelines, and my own searches turned up nothing even faintly promising. Not all "published authors" are notable, and there is no indication that this one is. Dominus Vobisdu ( talk) 18:41, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete. Randykitty ( talk) 13:04, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Hui Cambrelen

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On notability grounds. Long involved story but essentially a local martial arts instructor. Peter Rehse ( talk) 18:07, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Original research (cited sources include anonymous classmates). If a new, well cited article about this topic can be written, please do so, but this version is an unsalvageable personal essay. Pburka ( talk) 00:48, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete No supported claims of notability. The only independent source is IMDB which lists him as appearing in a martial arts documentary. That's not nearly enough to show notability. Plenty of OR but no independent reliable sources. COI is likely. Mdtemp ( talk) 18:32, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. The nomination and one other had concerns over independent sourcing establishing notability which have been found and added to a (now) significantly improved article ( non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 00:19, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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NN entertainer. No independent sources. And the article made by an SPA. Why should I have a User Name? ( talk) 17:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Well... not quite a SPA, as the author did edit other articles from January through November of 2007. However, he does not seem to have a hand on WP:PEOPLE. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 21:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. The fellow exists and can be found written of in music-related books, [39] [40] and may be the best concert pianist in the world... but I do not see enough outside his own website with which to build an article. Does anyone feel he meets WP:CREATIVE or WP:ANYBIO #2? Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 21:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep. The article just needs some sources: [41], [42], [43], [44], [45], [46] ( talk) 09:32, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I have worked a bit on the article: wikified, added sources, discography and authority control. I hope that addresses your concerns, Why should I have a User Name?. ( talk) 21:27, 15 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep – The sources provided, even if provided by those !voting "delete", seem widely spread and reliable. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 10:20, 15 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep - In addition to the discography of his own record company, mentioned on his web site, there is his discography at AllMusic. That and the reviews listed by Lemnaminor are enough to convince me. -- Stfg ( talk) 15:10, 15 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep per sources found & added, Passes GNG. – Davey2010 • (talk) 22:48, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. THere is a fiarly clear consensus to delete here. Black Kite (talk) 17:39, 29 September 2014 (UTC) reply

List of scouting troops and service units

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Out of scope - WP:NOTDIR. Further, a full directory of all Scouting troops etc would contain about one million entries. jergen ( talk) 12:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete. Just not a viable subject and therefore not particularly useful. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 12:25, 10 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Could this ever become complete, with global scope? If it did, would anyone be able to maintain it? Aside from notability issues, it is simply impossible to create and maintain a page like this. DiverScout ( talk) 16:21, 10 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep. I'm starting to feel fickle, but do ncr am convinces me the article may be able to fulfil at least part of what I'd hoped it might accomplish. From the beginning, while the list is over-represented with North American troops, its scope is very much intended to be international. -- Unicorn Tapestry ^{say} 20:49, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply

That "Keep" !vote and statement replaced a "Delete" !vote and statement which itself replaced a "Comment" (see this diff showing the delete replacing comment). UnicornTapestry, it's never okay to change your view in an AFD FINE of course for you to change your views and to updtate them, but it might be better to strike out previous comments when you add new ones, rather than deleting, so the discussion record is clear. :) -- do ncr am 15:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete. We do not even list Troops or Groups in articles about Scouting or Guiding in regions of countries, such as the States in Australia or the US, or the Regions of the UK. One reason is that the list would still be very large and would be almost impossible to accurately maintain. Also it is well established that very very few Troops or Groups are notable and lists are generally of things that have their own article and are therefore notable. -- Bduke (Discussion) 13:32, 11 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep. The reasoning in some of the above !votes doesn't hold water. There is no problem having a list-article that could conceivably include millions of items; it is easy to restrict membership to items that are individually wikipedia-notable or limit by some other criteria. "Being too large" is not a valid reason to oppose. We have List of hotels. We have List of bridges. It's no problem to maintain these. And we have list-articles List of Scouts, List of Eagle Scouts, List of local councils of the Boy Scouts of America. There exist some wikipedia articles in Category:Local units of the Boy Scouts of America and in Category:Associations related to the Boy Scouts of America which seem logical candidates to list in an explicit list. See wp:CLT for explanation of how categories, lists, nav-templates are complementary. Sure, the current version of the list-article should be reduced down, and criteria for inclusion should be discussed at the Talk page, but logically it makes sense to have a list-article of the notable Scouting troops. -- do ncr am 22:50, 14 September 2014 (UTC) reply

I would change my !vote if it really did only contain troops, units, etc that were notable enough to have their own wikipedia articles, but that is a short list and they are often notable for different reasons. Even then, a category might be better. The title would be better named if it was "List of scouting and Guiding Units". Be carefull to not just have a US centred view. -- Bduke (Discussion) 07:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Thanks for comment...doesn't that acknowledge that there is a valid topic, while editing is needed, and maybe refinement of title is needed, but deletion is not needed. "AFD is not for cleanup". About a category being better, please read wp:CLT which is about how categories and list-articles are Complementary. Given the non-US title, i have no problem with warning that the list-article should be sure to avoid having just a US-centric view... this is fine to point out at Talk page of article along with discussion of inclusion criteria. -- do ncr am 11:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC) reply

It would still be better to delete this and start again with a new title. Not a single current entry meets the criteria of having a wikipedia article. I think all the categories need to be removed, except the general Scouting one. I also think it should be restricted to normal Scout units, such as Scout Troops, Cub Packs, Rover Crews, etc or, where these are together in one Scout Group, the Group. In Category:Local units of the Boy Scouts of America, only one entry meets that criteria. In Category:Associations related to the Boy Scouts of America none of the entries meets that criteria. Loosely linked associations are difficult to define and are best left in the categories alone. -- Bduke (Discussion) 06:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Here I must respectfully disagree about limiting the list to ‘normal Scouts’. It’s undeniable that groups like Frontier Girls, Navigators, Pathfinders, and Trail Life are scouts, simply ones that have split from the main group including some who think their vision is closer to Lord Baden-Powell’s. To deny their scouting heritage is like, say, denying Protestants are Christians. -- Unicorn Tapestry ^{say} 16:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC) reply

You misunderstand me. I did not say ‘normal Scouts’, meaning exclusion of smaller maybe non-WOSM Scouts. I said ‘normal Scouts units’. They could be units of Frontier Girls, Navigators, Pathfinders, etc. I want to exclude specialist groups such as District Scout Bands or say Koshare Indian Dancers which seems to be a specialist part of a troop, not the main groups such as troops, packs, etc which young people belong to as their first loyalty in a Scouting organisation of any kind. I want to include normal units that happen to be notable for some reason. -- Bduke (Discussion) 20:53, 16 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Delete Per the nomination. It is a list of non-notable items. Frmorrison ( talk) 19:28, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete for having too broad a set of criteria. As jergen has pointed out, there are a lot of potential entries. And not a single one seems to have an article. Clarityfiend ( talk) 00:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Not so, after i edit the list-article to link to Mounted Boy Scout Troop 290, for example. -- do ncr am 21:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Comment. Arguments about the notability criteria for list-inclusion of items miss the point. Criteria for items should be discussed at Talk page of list. I think Boy Scout Troop 600 (Bellevue, Washington) is notable, and in fact deserves an article. See for example, this Seattle Times article, and http://www.troop600.com/. And Mounted Boy Scout Troop 290 does have an article. As do Koshare Indian Dancers, Long Beach Search and Rescue and Racine Scouts Drum and Bugle Corps. I am now drastically editing the list-article downwards. I think some local units are individually notable, and it is useful and appropriate to have a list of them; i voted "Keep" above. -- do ncr am 21:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • The notability guidelines for local units are at WP:BRANCH. --   Gadget850  ^talk 23:03, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment I removed some of the links to this article, so it may be orphaned. If kept, then the link should go in the {{ Scouting}} navbox and I will make it happen. --   Gadget850  ^talk 23:03, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment. I have added several other entries, taken from my memory followed by looking at the Category for the relevant country. They are thus complete for existing articles for those countries unless articles have not been categorized correctly. Other country categories need to be searched. The introduction needs to be clarified about the organisations that qualify. -- Bduke (Discussion) 09:12, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Thanks. There are now items for a good number of countries, and the intro has been clarified. I think the AFD could be closed (with Keep) about now. -- do ncr am 21:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete. Randykitty ( talk) 13:06, 25 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Appears to fail WP:POLITICIAN. Local elected official who has not been "written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles" outside of her town's newspaper. Ks0stm ^{( T• C• G• E)} 18:10, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete County recorder isn't on the same level as a state legislator or even county executive. Likewise, simply being a delegate at the Democratic National Convention or being elected to the Democratic National Committee doesn't convey automatic notability. I can't find significant coverage in reliable sources discussing her and, as she's already mentioned on her husband's page, her article should be deleted. Tiller54 ( talk) 17:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
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• Nothing here is a claim of notability that passes WP:NPOL, and the article relies mainly on primary sources and is thus not sourced extensively enough to get her over WP:GNG either. Delete. Bearcat ( talk) 21:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was Snow Keep. I'm slightly concenred over some of the recent rash of AFD nominations that @ Ravenswing: has brought up. In any sense, this is a clear snow closure ( non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 01:13, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

The Watch (TV series)

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NN Proposed tv series that apparently never aired, only garnered "newsy" coverage while under development and not WP:GNG in secondary sources. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:09, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep. Even if it remains forever stuck in development hell, the substantial media coverage it has already received, as seen in the article's references, makes it pass WP:GNG.  Sandstein  18:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Procedural Keep: I reviewed this AfD filed by the nom yesterday, and found a blizzard of high quality, substantive sources (including the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone magazine, the Associated Press and Newsweek), demonstrating that the nom didn't make the slightest effort to source the article, as WP:BEFORE requires he do before filing an AfD. I checked his contribution history, and found to my shock that in the course of over five hundred edits he made over the last two days, he filed the astonishing number of 51 AfDs, some of them as little as three minutes apart. This is absurd, and worth taking to AN/I, but in the meantime these AfDs ought to be pulled.

  As far as this one goes, notability is not temporary. Something doesn't have to have ever gotten off the ground to meet the GNG, as this subject plainly does. Ravenswing 18:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep, good deal of source coverage. — Cirt ( talk) 20:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep & expand — Preceding unsigned comment added by Futeb00l ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep - There's enough coverage, and that's what matters. Being released is not an actual criteria in the WP:GNG. Sergecross73 msg me 15:50, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. postdlf ( talk) 16:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

List of Jormungand characters

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Unsourced fancruft.-- 114.81.255.37 ( talk) 06:56, 16 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Comment I completed the AfD for the IP. Ansh 666 18:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Keep per WP:SPINOUT. Character lists are normally kept as an expansion of the plot not able to be covered on the main article. Per WP:BEFORE have you looked for sources regarding the characters? - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 00:29, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep Knowledgekid has covered the ground already. The issue of sources is of course an issue that should be seen to be even slightly addressed, but character articles generally have some allowance if it's a concise and reasonably written article (opposed to vehicle/equipment/terms etc). If they were individual articles than the need for notability is more important. There is a long standing consensus with these types of articles. SephyTheThird ( talk) 21:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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The result was withdrawn. Article was moved to Draft: space. ( non-admin closure) ansh 666 19:03, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

List of selected countries in EU context

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I'm not sure what this page is supposed to be. The title says "selected countries" (with no indication how they're selected) and "EU context", but we already have Member state of the European Union, and about half the countries (such as the US and UAE) aren't in the EU (and many aren't even in Europe). And why is the size of the country represented in bicycles? Seems redundant to the many other lists of countries on Wikipedia. Ahecht ( TALK
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Withdrawn per move to draft space. -- Ahecht ( TALK
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I changed the icons for land area into more conventional ones. The train and bicycle, fast and slow transport were meant to symbolize distances to cover. Also the title was changed. Erik Zachte ( talk) 09:40, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom - Also The article states "Data and markup maintained via spreadsheet. Please do not edit manually." ... Well if it's on a spreadsheet then what's the actual point of this article? ... – Davey2010 • (talk) 17:45, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• The table shows a new way to present spreadsheet using Isotype. The spreadheet isn't needed per se to build such tables, only this one got unwieldy. If you think the selection process for the countries is arbitrary please improve rather than delete.

The basic macro introduced here is explained in a blog post and illustrated here:

Population              

GDP              

GDP per capita              

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• How can we improve it when you've told us not to edit it? Only you have access to the spreadsheet and the macro. -- Ahecht ( TALK
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• Yeah that is almost a contradiction. Either I might not maintain the spreadsheet and rows can be deleted manually. Or criteria for which countries to include could be discussed at talk page. Erik Zachte ( talk) 18:09, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

The icons for fast and slow traffic to represent large and small areas, are a compromise, and I welcome better alternatives, as I explain in my blog post, small icon size makes many candidates less fit. Erik Zachte ( talk) 18:47, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

The idea was to build a EU centric table, but in a larger context, hence all metrics as percentage of EU total, all non EU countries, and the largest countries from other regions. This table is most interesting for Europeans I presume. We could do similar tables for other regions. Erik Zachte ( talk) 18:47, 17 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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• Delete as WP:OR and an WP:INDISCRIMINATE jumble of statistics and facts about EU and non-EU countries. Countries like Argentina and Nigeria are rarely (if ever) compared like this to the EU. Clarityfiend ( talk) 00:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

What is there original research here? It's merely a better way to present data. And far from original. Been used all over the place outside Wikipedia since 1930's Erik Zachte ( talk) 14:28, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

I suggest shrinking the number of non European countries (which was admittely a bit chaotic) as follows: keep top 3 countries in population, land size, and GDP for global perspective. that would 9 at most. (done, only 5 due to overlaps) Erik Zachte ( talk) 14:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete Violates accessibility guidelines. Images cannot solely be used to convey information. Article cannot be edit manually by others. Duplicates Member state of the European Union Bgwhite ( talk) 05:28, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Disagree on all 3 points: Data are both in numeric and graphical format. Also article can be edited by anyone, I removed the notice. No duplicates as this way of presenting data is new (on Wikipedia). Erik Zachte ( talk) 14:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

You see the whole point of this new table design (new in Wikipedia) is that people glean very little insights from huge tables of large numbers, unless they spend an extraordinary amount of time studying the numbers. Just making the table sortable is not good enough. Erik Zachte ( talk) 14:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

So I added this notice: "Unlike most lists of countries in Wikipedia metrics here are not in absolute values, but as percentages of a large entity, the European Union. If you need raw numbers please consult other lists. Here the primary goal is to help the reader obtain a better sense of proportions." Erik Zachte ( talk) 15:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• delete This type of job is not for wikipedia, but for wikiDatabase or whatever it is under development. Staszek Lem ( talk) 23:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Do you mean WikiData?

I agree this table might be fed from WikiData some time in the future, that would probably be neat. Still I think the end-product belongs on Wikipedia, like so much more structured data (infoboxes). Erik Zachte ( talk) 15:25, 21 September 2014 (UTC) reply

So the presentation mode is far from original, here is another example: For many more see Google Images, search isotype

• Userfy, no need for deletion. I think this idea is kinda cool, though I should begin with a disclaimer and say that I am a big fan of Erik's blog and especially the wikistats he produces for the Foundation. That said, I am surprised at the chorus of deletes here and to see that no effort has been made to steer him in a positive direction, only towards 100% rejection. As far as the article goes, I am in complete agreement that the title was bad (it still hasn't gotten any better), the lead "Data and markup maintained via spreadsheet. Please do not edit manually." that Ahecht objected to (quite correctly) was laughably bad (and this together with the lack of any categories should have been a red flag that Erik was a new user in need of help, not rejection), and the legend could use some work. I am objecting to AfD process here. The template

  {{under construction}}

  should have been used, and the appropriate Wikiprojects ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics, Wikipedia:WikiProject Statistics, Wikipedia:WikiProject European Union) should have been informed. I would even have voted keep with the right title (something like Isotope list of Population, Area, and GDP statistics presented as percentage of EU totals). Unfortunately, when I viewed the page on my iPad the whole table was cut off and all the Isotopes were presented as long columns, making readability virtually impossible, so I think the java script used is not ready for mainspace. Jane ( talk) 07:59, 22 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Update - Erik has taken my advice and put the article in his sandbox here. I am not familiar enough with AfD policy to send out the alerts necessary to the various projects. Isn't there some category for these economics-related deletion discussions? I have since viewed the table on my desktop and feel there is a valid need for this presentation method on Wikipedia. I think however, that there should first be a properly sourced table with these stats (which categories etc I don't know!), and then linking from that table, a link to this table with ONLY the country names and isotope columns (leave out all other columns, but point back to the source article from this article). As far as Wikidata goes, I think the datapoints for the first table belong there as "live" properties in the various country items, not on this English-only Wikipedia, where they can easily go out-of-date. Alternatively, try recreating a historical table from some old, out-of-copyright textbook and translating that into Isotope. Otherwise, the problem of validating and choosing proper sources will continuously pop up and all of this work will just get deleted anyway somewhere down the road. Now I can see it I like the Isotope style of presenting the numbers. Jane ( talk) 08:51, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Draftify. Clearly the user is experimenting with something that is apparently encyclopaedic but not how we currently do things. We should give the user a great deal of rope to because there is a chance (perhaps a small one) that they'll be able to improve our current practice. Moving to draft is better than userification, because it encourages collaboration and external input. Stuartyeates ( talk) 09:17, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Userfy or Move to draft This is an interesting idea and one which could be very beneficial to Wikipedia. However, it needs to be fully tested and then reviewed and accepted by the community before it can replace our current processes. I'm in favour of having Erik retain and work on this in either user or draft space (with a slight preference for draft per Stuartyeates comment immediately above), but it doesn't belong in mainspace yet. Yunshui  ^雲 _水 09:24, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Userfy or Draftify per comments above. An interesting idea, but not ready for Prime Time yet. -- Jayron 32 10:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Thanks for constructive feedback. I had forgotten about Draft namespace, I agree that is a better place, so I just moved it there. Cheers, Erik Zachte ( talk) 13:28, 24 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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