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I used my own records, which I saved at time or shortly afterwards as I attended said championships. I not sure if the regatta sites still exist or their urls, some where only paper records. If you want my additions in that's fine.
Martin 46.208.17.59 ( talk) 22:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ahunt,
I just noticed I made a typo after I created a category and was hoping you could correct my mistake. The typo is regarding the category: Category:Political titles in Dutch East Indies - the correct name should be "Political titles in the Dutch East Indies". Thanks in advance SailingthroughHistory ( talk) 13:27, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
Sometimes I have no idea what's there, but my gut tells me something there. So I throw out some lines with different bait, and see what happens. Sometimes I catch something I didn't think was there, but I knew something was there. Figuratively speaking. BilCat ( talk) 13:21, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
In other words, sometimes even paranoids do really have someone out to get them. Or maybe I'm just annoyed. :) BilCat ( talk) 13:24, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
And sometimes, a different something catches me, and I just throw it back. BilCat ( talk) 13:41, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ahunt,
I noticed that you reverted a recent edit of mine on the Torch (web browser) article and wanted to ask about your rationale for doing so.
My edit was to add a dash between "North Carolina" and "based" (i.e., "North Carolina–based") because the attribution for "based" is a compound. You reverted my edit and replaced the en dash with a hyphen.
My understanding of the MOS, in this regard, is as follows: "Instead of a hyphen, use an en dash when applying a prefix or suffix to a compound that itself includes a space, dash or hyphen". I also included MOS:PREFIXDASH in the edit summary for reference.
Please advise.
Edward Bednar ( talk) 01:18, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
We were both on Wikipedia before VisualEditor came out, so we had to learn to do it all ourselves. Once you've learned it, though, it's fairly easy. Wikipedia is very rules-heavy, so the MOS is probably what's important to learn first. The rest can come later. On being a "hyper-grammar wonk" IRL, my condolences. Seriously though, your role is actually quite valuable, as much of editing Wikipeia. requires a good grasp of both basic and advanced English grammar. We have so many editors with a poor grasp of even basic English grammar, both native and non-native speakers of English. A lot of what I do is basic copy editing, but I'm not trained in that; I often know what's correct by instinct, but can't necessarily explain why, especially in college-level grammar terms. So it's important to people on here who can do that, but can also explain it well to layman. That we have a shortage of! My primary issue with what I call "hyper-gammar wonks" (that's my euphemism for another term, btw, one I try not to use anymore) is their staunch prescriptivism. While basic grammar has to be prescriptivist to some degree, I'm more descriptivist on everything else, or I try to be. BilCat ( talk) 19:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
{{
Bibleverse}}
(which formats verse ranges into URLs), even if a range is embedded in them.Something similar might be helpful or at least give us something to point to! - Ahunt ( talk) 12:34, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
Heavens, what the - I think I might have got it wrong - your esteemed opinion of the draft short -
probably wrong... so much for the -
JarrahTree 12:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
I figured out what this was all about. The user just created es:Aviat Husky on Spanish Wikipedia. They have linked to an article on Spanish Wikipedia before, in inappropriate places, but that article was deleted there. As to why they're doing it that way, that's more your area of expertise! I did add the article to Wikidata for them. BilCat ( talk) 19:24, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Can you help me wrote this article and save it from speedy deletion? Super Porpoise - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkjazzer ( talk • contribs)
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_18#(Sailing_class)_competitions
not sure if you had seen or been aware of this item. JarrahTree 08:57, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Regarding the Daher Kodiak] article, my Spidey sense is tingling. I'm. not sure if we're dealing with a COI editor related to one of the companies involved, or a Porco Rosso fanbeing. Any thoughts? BilCat ( talk) 22:08, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for being patient with me when I "intrude" into conversations here with others. Your good example helps. BilCat ( talk) 21:51, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Don't edit Wikipedia while drunk or high
is always good advice. -
Ahunt (
talk) 12:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I was particularly pleased to discover the user's first edit and point out this userbox was likely intentional pwnage (for this exact situation) by a contributor who last edited in 2009. This desperate search for offensive things in userspace is troubling and not sustainable. BTW, based on the contribution history, IMHO this was an experienced wikipedian, not a sudden wiki-fling. BusterD ( talk) 12:13, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi A Hunt. Looks like you have the wrong image for a Melges 24 on the page. That is an image of a J/70. Melgessailor24 ( talk) 14:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Can you take a look at this addition? It's beyond my ability to fully evaluate, but it seems promotional of a new concept. Thanks. BilCat ( talk) 03:11, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
My wife has become addicted to Aircraft Craft Investigations - wherever we can find it in strange corners, we watch - we have just watched a doco on BA Flight 009 - it is giving me the beegees, as I will be flying through Javanese volcano region in August. Inneresting, one might say... [1] inneresting... JarrahTree 12:19, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
I was going to mention Great-circle navigation. - Ahunt ( talk) 12:19, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
In recent years we have had many universities engaged to create or improve articles with a failure rate of 100%. I wish they would stick to term papers instead.
I tried that in the early 2000s with some optional "creativity" points (with strong warnings about choosing private usernames versus real-life names or IPs). A few students accepted the challenge, and you'd have to ask pl.Wikipedians of that epoch for their opinions, but I do remember spending quite a bit of time doing cleanups based on Wikipedia standards of that epoch. I seem to remember that at least one reasonable new software-related pl.Wikipedia article was created. I didn't try to make any serious assessments of the overall results.
I was hoping that the more systematic
Wikipedia:Student assignments project would have much more successful results than I had. From a quick browse of
Wikipedia:Education noticeboard and
Wikipedia talk:Student assignments I'm trying to guess the health of the project, beyond your personal pessimistic assessment. I got from
Wikipedia:Student assignments#Overview through using a course page
to
Wikipedia:Training/For educators/Setting up your course 3 which has a red link and an obsolescence warning pointing to what appears to be a non-WMF site -
https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training - which at the bottom says This site is a project of Wiki Education ...
pointing to
https://wikiedu.org which is offline. So some meta-level maintenance is weak. But it's clear that there are people putting in big efforts (though
https://dashboard.wikiedu.org currently fails
WP:WORLD: "fall" is a US/Canada specific term and autumn is around July/August in the southern temperate zones and meaningless in most tropic zones).
Wikipedia:Education noticeboard/Wiki Ed course submissions has a huge list of "courses".
Looking at an arbitrary sample of one random student in one randomly chosen not-too-new course, I see this pair of edits, which are not too bad, though especially the last paragraph added illustrates your point about adding unsourced material, which was sourced a day later by Diannaa.
I leave it open to you or others to make more systematic assessments... :) Boud ( talk) 16:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Challenger 24 Alcyone photos taken without permission or consent from me the owner... Photos of my young daughter onboard. Delete photos now! 205.193.82.252 ( talk) 14:58, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ahunt! I've made two new userboxes for the B747 and A380 (for memories)
This user thinks that Boeing should've never ended the production of the Boeing 747. |
This user thinks that Airbus should've never ended the production of the Airbus A380. |
Do you have any suggestions on which aviation category they should go to? Thanks! 🛧 Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 06:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
You stated that only 2/8 are primary sources
, which is not true. 4/8 are:
YouTube about page,
YouTube video,
personal website, and
law firm website. They are cited 7 times out of the total 11 citation tags, with the other 4 citations—which are reliable—only cited in one paragraph (relating to one lawsuit) and an award. All other personal details are derived from primary sources. I think that warrants a tag. 〜
Festucalex •
talk 21:02, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
You can use the article's talk page (preferred) or the editor's user talk page, and I'll do the preferred thing in the future. But since we're here, we might as well discuss it. 〜 Festucalex • talk 23:21, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ahunt, not sure if you confused it with distress sale or something else, but divestment is a broad term that usually involves sale of a non-"core" or non- cash cow asset or business without being compelled. Their spokesperson also calls it a divestiture. Let me know if I'm missing something since I've used this diction in multiple places here. Best, Ptrnext ( talk) 03:49, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
I guess this answers the question of how the RCAF will refuel its CF-35s in the air: with a boom. We should probably update the relevant F-35 articles that mention the issue. BilCat ( talk) 01:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
That's about the worst case of WP:IDHT that I've seen in quite a while. If I enjoyed the process of filing ANI's, I'd have done so already. BilCat ( talk) 02:45, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
I added the template on the above article as that event was an aviation incident (albeit minor, social impact aside), and articles such as the 2023 FAA system outage, which also isn't an accident, have been listed on this year's aviation incident template, and the template page has a listing for that event. I don't see a reason why the template should be removed from that article. -- Jnglmpera ( talk) 15:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
@Ahunt, I added a talking point to the Custom 62 page. The references [3][4] "evidencing" the existence of "Lilia" lead to a 62' Alden-built boat and therefore should be removed from the C&C 62 page. The used ON number also indicates Alden, 12.5' beam which cannot be out of the C&C 61 mold, which has a 15' beam. We are still trying to figure out what boat is displayed in the video that is referenced under [5]. Unfortunately the www.yachtauthority.com link in the video description does not respond anymore. There are options that is was actually an older 61' or one of the 2 boats projects before "Pegaso" that are listed on the C&C build list under a different project name. We know "Scirocco" was never built but there is another name listed, "Brita" that seems to be MIA. "Pegaso" was built by raising the freeboard on the 61' mold. This is how they got to the 62' LOA. She has the hull number 10, which corresponds to the C&C buid list entry 10. There was no different hull mold for 62'. Additionally, the book reference [1] indicates that "Pegaso" was "the first Custom 62'", which suggests that there are no other 62' C&Cs, as there were no other builds after Pegaso.
Pegaso's USCG registration is 1317466 and active. TomKnorr ( talk) 16:33, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
You have way too much time on your hands. Pwu2005 ( talk) 19:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed that u deleted a messed up reference on the page SS Jassim instead of fixing it. Why? Ultimateyeetus ( talk) 01:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Sorry about removing the US WikiProject tag from my draft of the Grady-White Boats article! I accidentally left it out when I resubmitted the draft for review. Thank you for noticing and fixing it! Igoe-Matthew ( talk) 15:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
the MD-11 could hover. BilCat ( talk) 03:38, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
See this. Some people shouldn't ever try to be funny on Wikipedia, especially if under the influence of something. (No idea if that's the case here or not, but if not, it makes the attempt even worse.) BilCat ( talk) 22:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy- Hamlet. - Ahunt ( talk) 18:48, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Adam, I reverted this as a forum-type question. IIRC, the AH-1G actually used the UH-1C's rotor blades, not "new" ones, but it still seems relatively insignificant, and beyond the scope of a generalist encyclopedia. Manufacturers update rotor systems and blades for a variety of reasons, so it's not really that unusual. However, if you want to address it, feel free to unrevert it and respond. BilCat ( talk) 20:37, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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The comments between you and Trainsandotherthings at WP:AFD have me concerned.
I spot checked 20 or so of your articles that you have listed on your user page, and every single one had major sourcing issues. The most common things I saw were primary sources, self publshed sources, unreliable sources, and the absence of any significant coverage.
If you want specific examples:
2si: The first reference is a self-published book. The second, fourth, and fifth references are primary. The third reference is a 'how-to' guide. All of the 2si articles in that list follow a similar format. I see no significant coverage from reliable sources in the articles that show that any of them are notable.
C&C 101: All references are from sailboatdata, which is not reliable (they use user generated data), and only database. No significant coverage.
MS Parafly: Only two reference. One a directory and the other is primary.
Raisner Graffiti: Two references. One is the same how-to reference from above (the fact that two randomly selected articles from such a large list...). The Other is just stating that it's not for sale from some website.
Sun Light 30: Same issues as above. All database-style references. Some from sailboat data, which uses user generated data. Some from sailboat.guide, which admits to using Wikipedia (not reliable) as a source. All non-significant.
I didn't cherry pick these. These were the first five I picked (I did look at more earlier, but these 5 were when I started typing this up. The earlier ones had the same issues).
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, I just happened to pick the 5 worse examples and all the rest are great. However, based on what I see and your comments at the AFD, I don't think that's likely. I'm not saying that good sources for these articles don't exist, I didn't look thoroughly for most of them. I did look for 2si, but couldn't find anything worthy.
I don't know what the solution to this is, maybe there needs to be a larger discussion somewhere else. I hope you read this in the helpful tone that I intend. In the meantime, I suggest not using sources such as sailboat data and sailboat guide, as they aren't reliable. -- Mike 🗩 20:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Adam, has Who-Is been working for you the last week or two? I keep getting a timeout when clicking from an IP user's Special:Contributions page. Thanks. BilCat ( talk) 04:19, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Hey Adam,
An IP user has been removing references, content and inserting unsourced content into the Hai Kun-class submarine for the past 2 days. Some got reverted yesterday but after my last edit yesterday it seems to have escalated. Basicly all the edits after my edit from yesterday has featured only references removal and insertion of content that is not backed up with any source. Mostly this person seems to just leave previous references intact, which do not backup the content that this person has inserted. Some users like @Llammakey and @BilCat have tried to stop this person by reverting the article, but since there have been so many edits since my last edit I thought it was best to ask your help since you have rollback rights (which apparently can revert several edits?). Best regards SailingthroughHistory ( talk) 11:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
@ SailingthroughHistory: Report the vandal to WP:AIV. Catfurball ( talk) 16:06, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § RfC on the "Airlines and destinations" tables in airport articles. I saw that you participated in a discussion on a similar topic. Sunnya343 ( talk) 18:35, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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21:04, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
I used my own records, which I saved at time or shortly afterwards as I attended said championships. I not sure if the regatta sites still exist or their urls, some where only paper records. If you want my additions in that's fine.
Martin 46.208.17.59 ( talk) 22:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ahunt,
I just noticed I made a typo after I created a category and was hoping you could correct my mistake. The typo is regarding the category: Category:Political titles in Dutch East Indies - the correct name should be "Political titles in the Dutch East Indies". Thanks in advance SailingthroughHistory ( talk) 13:27, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
Sometimes I have no idea what's there, but my gut tells me something there. So I throw out some lines with different bait, and see what happens. Sometimes I catch something I didn't think was there, but I knew something was there. Figuratively speaking. BilCat ( talk) 13:21, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
In other words, sometimes even paranoids do really have someone out to get them. Or maybe I'm just annoyed. :) BilCat ( talk) 13:24, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
And sometimes, a different something catches me, and I just throw it back. BilCat ( talk) 13:41, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi Ahunt,
I noticed that you reverted a recent edit of mine on the Torch (web browser) article and wanted to ask about your rationale for doing so.
My edit was to add a dash between "North Carolina" and "based" (i.e., "North Carolina–based") because the attribution for "based" is a compound. You reverted my edit and replaced the en dash with a hyphen.
My understanding of the MOS, in this regard, is as follows: "Instead of a hyphen, use an en dash when applying a prefix or suffix to a compound that itself includes a space, dash or hyphen". I also included MOS:PREFIXDASH in the edit summary for reference.
Please advise.
Edward Bednar ( talk) 01:18, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
We were both on Wikipedia before VisualEditor came out, so we had to learn to do it all ourselves. Once you've learned it, though, it's fairly easy. Wikipedia is very rules-heavy, so the MOS is probably what's important to learn first. The rest can come later. On being a "hyper-grammar wonk" IRL, my condolences. Seriously though, your role is actually quite valuable, as much of editing Wikipeia. requires a good grasp of both basic and advanced English grammar. We have so many editors with a poor grasp of even basic English grammar, both native and non-native speakers of English. A lot of what I do is basic copy editing, but I'm not trained in that; I often know what's correct by instinct, but can't necessarily explain why, especially in college-level grammar terms. So it's important to people on here who can do that, but can also explain it well to layman. That we have a shortage of! My primary issue with what I call "hyper-gammar wonks" (that's my euphemism for another term, btw, one I try not to use anymore) is their staunch prescriptivism. While basic grammar has to be prescriptivist to some degree, I'm more descriptivist on everything else, or I try to be. BilCat ( talk) 19:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
{{
Bibleverse}}
(which formats verse ranges into URLs), even if a range is embedded in them.Something similar might be helpful or at least give us something to point to! - Ahunt ( talk) 12:34, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
Heavens, what the - I think I might have got it wrong - your esteemed opinion of the draft short -
probably wrong... so much for the -
JarrahTree 12:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
I figured out what this was all about. The user just created es:Aviat Husky on Spanish Wikipedia. They have linked to an article on Spanish Wikipedia before, in inappropriate places, but that article was deleted there. As to why they're doing it that way, that's more your area of expertise! I did add the article to Wikidata for them. BilCat ( talk) 19:24, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Can you help me wrote this article and save it from speedy deletion? Super Porpoise - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkjazzer ( talk • contribs)
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_18#(Sailing_class)_competitions
not sure if you had seen or been aware of this item. JarrahTree 08:57, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Regarding the Daher Kodiak] article, my Spidey sense is tingling. I'm. not sure if we're dealing with a COI editor related to one of the companies involved, or a Porco Rosso fanbeing. Any thoughts? BilCat ( talk) 22:08, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for being patient with me when I "intrude" into conversations here with others. Your good example helps. BilCat ( talk) 21:51, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Don't edit Wikipedia while drunk or high
is always good advice. -
Ahunt (
talk) 12:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I was particularly pleased to discover the user's first edit and point out this userbox was likely intentional pwnage (for this exact situation) by a contributor who last edited in 2009. This desperate search for offensive things in userspace is troubling and not sustainable. BTW, based on the contribution history, IMHO this was an experienced wikipedian, not a sudden wiki-fling. BusterD ( talk) 12:13, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi A Hunt. Looks like you have the wrong image for a Melges 24 on the page. That is an image of a J/70. Melgessailor24 ( talk) 14:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Can you take a look at this addition? It's beyond my ability to fully evaluate, but it seems promotional of a new concept. Thanks. BilCat ( talk) 03:11, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
My wife has become addicted to Aircraft Craft Investigations - wherever we can find it in strange corners, we watch - we have just watched a doco on BA Flight 009 - it is giving me the beegees, as I will be flying through Javanese volcano region in August. Inneresting, one might say... [1] inneresting... JarrahTree 12:19, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
I was going to mention Great-circle navigation. - Ahunt ( talk) 12:19, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
In recent years we have had many universities engaged to create or improve articles with a failure rate of 100%. I wish they would stick to term papers instead.
I tried that in the early 2000s with some optional "creativity" points (with strong warnings about choosing private usernames versus real-life names or IPs). A few students accepted the challenge, and you'd have to ask pl.Wikipedians of that epoch for their opinions, but I do remember spending quite a bit of time doing cleanups based on Wikipedia standards of that epoch. I seem to remember that at least one reasonable new software-related pl.Wikipedia article was created. I didn't try to make any serious assessments of the overall results.
I was hoping that the more systematic
Wikipedia:Student assignments project would have much more successful results than I had. From a quick browse of
Wikipedia:Education noticeboard and
Wikipedia talk:Student assignments I'm trying to guess the health of the project, beyond your personal pessimistic assessment. I got from
Wikipedia:Student assignments#Overview through using a course page
to
Wikipedia:Training/For educators/Setting up your course 3 which has a red link and an obsolescence warning pointing to what appears to be a non-WMF site -
https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training - which at the bottom says This site is a project of Wiki Education ...
pointing to
https://wikiedu.org which is offline. So some meta-level maintenance is weak. But it's clear that there are people putting in big efforts (though
https://dashboard.wikiedu.org currently fails
WP:WORLD: "fall" is a US/Canada specific term and autumn is around July/August in the southern temperate zones and meaningless in most tropic zones).
Wikipedia:Education noticeboard/Wiki Ed course submissions has a huge list of "courses".
Looking at an arbitrary sample of one random student in one randomly chosen not-too-new course, I see this pair of edits, which are not too bad, though especially the last paragraph added illustrates your point about adding unsourced material, which was sourced a day later by Diannaa.
I leave it open to you or others to make more systematic assessments... :) Boud ( talk) 16:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Challenger 24 Alcyone photos taken without permission or consent from me the owner... Photos of my young daughter onboard. Delete photos now! 205.193.82.252 ( talk) 14:58, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ahunt! I've made two new userboxes for the B747 and A380 (for memories)
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Do you have any suggestions on which aviation category they should go to? Thanks! 🛧 Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 06:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
You stated that only 2/8 are primary sources
, which is not true. 4/8 are:
YouTube about page,
YouTube video,
personal website, and
law firm website. They are cited 7 times out of the total 11 citation tags, with the other 4 citations—which are reliable—only cited in one paragraph (relating to one lawsuit) and an award. All other personal details are derived from primary sources. I think that warrants a tag. 〜
Festucalex •
talk 21:02, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
You can use the article's talk page (preferred) or the editor's user talk page, and I'll do the preferred thing in the future. But since we're here, we might as well discuss it. 〜 Festucalex • talk 23:21, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello Ahunt, not sure if you confused it with distress sale or something else, but divestment is a broad term that usually involves sale of a non-"core" or non- cash cow asset or business without being compelled. Their spokesperson also calls it a divestiture. Let me know if I'm missing something since I've used this diction in multiple places here. Best, Ptrnext ( talk) 03:49, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
I guess this answers the question of how the RCAF will refuel its CF-35s in the air: with a boom. We should probably update the relevant F-35 articles that mention the issue. BilCat ( talk) 01:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
That's about the worst case of WP:IDHT that I've seen in quite a while. If I enjoyed the process of filing ANI's, I'd have done so already. BilCat ( talk) 02:45, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
I added the template on the above article as that event was an aviation incident (albeit minor, social impact aside), and articles such as the 2023 FAA system outage, which also isn't an accident, have been listed on this year's aviation incident template, and the template page has a listing for that event. I don't see a reason why the template should be removed from that article. -- Jnglmpera ( talk) 15:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
@Ahunt, I added a talking point to the Custom 62 page. The references [3][4] "evidencing" the existence of "Lilia" lead to a 62' Alden-built boat and therefore should be removed from the C&C 62 page. The used ON number also indicates Alden, 12.5' beam which cannot be out of the C&C 61 mold, which has a 15' beam. We are still trying to figure out what boat is displayed in the video that is referenced under [5]. Unfortunately the www.yachtauthority.com link in the video description does not respond anymore. There are options that is was actually an older 61' or one of the 2 boats projects before "Pegaso" that are listed on the C&C build list under a different project name. We know "Scirocco" was never built but there is another name listed, "Brita" that seems to be MIA. "Pegaso" was built by raising the freeboard on the 61' mold. This is how they got to the 62' LOA. She has the hull number 10, which corresponds to the C&C buid list entry 10. There was no different hull mold for 62'. Additionally, the book reference [1] indicates that "Pegaso" was "the first Custom 62'", which suggests that there are no other 62' C&Cs, as there were no other builds after Pegaso.
Pegaso's USCG registration is 1317466 and active. TomKnorr ( talk) 16:33, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
You have way too much time on your hands. Pwu2005 ( talk) 19:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed that u deleted a messed up reference on the page SS Jassim instead of fixing it. Why? Ultimateyeetus ( talk) 01:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Sorry about removing the US WikiProject tag from my draft of the Grady-White Boats article! I accidentally left it out when I resubmitted the draft for review. Thank you for noticing and fixing it! Igoe-Matthew ( talk) 15:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
the MD-11 could hover. BilCat ( talk) 03:38, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
See this. Some people shouldn't ever try to be funny on Wikipedia, especially if under the influence of something. (No idea if that's the case here or not, but if not, it makes the attempt even worse.) BilCat ( talk) 22:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy- Hamlet. - Ahunt ( talk) 18:48, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Adam, I reverted this as a forum-type question. IIRC, the AH-1G actually used the UH-1C's rotor blades, not "new" ones, but it still seems relatively insignificant, and beyond the scope of a generalist encyclopedia. Manufacturers update rotor systems and blades for a variety of reasons, so it's not really that unusual. However, if you want to address it, feel free to unrevert it and respond. BilCat ( talk) 20:37, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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The comments between you and Trainsandotherthings at WP:AFD have me concerned.
I spot checked 20 or so of your articles that you have listed on your user page, and every single one had major sourcing issues. The most common things I saw were primary sources, self publshed sources, unreliable sources, and the absence of any significant coverage.
If you want specific examples:
2si: The first reference is a self-published book. The second, fourth, and fifth references are primary. The third reference is a 'how-to' guide. All of the 2si articles in that list follow a similar format. I see no significant coverage from reliable sources in the articles that show that any of them are notable.
C&C 101: All references are from sailboatdata, which is not reliable (they use user generated data), and only database. No significant coverage.
MS Parafly: Only two reference. One a directory and the other is primary.
Raisner Graffiti: Two references. One is the same how-to reference from above (the fact that two randomly selected articles from such a large list...). The Other is just stating that it's not for sale from some website.
Sun Light 30: Same issues as above. All database-style references. Some from sailboat data, which uses user generated data. Some from sailboat.guide, which admits to using Wikipedia (not reliable) as a source. All non-significant.
I didn't cherry pick these. These were the first five I picked (I did look at more earlier, but these 5 were when I started typing this up. The earlier ones had the same issues).
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, I just happened to pick the 5 worse examples and all the rest are great. However, based on what I see and your comments at the AFD, I don't think that's likely. I'm not saying that good sources for these articles don't exist, I didn't look thoroughly for most of them. I did look for 2si, but couldn't find anything worthy.
I don't know what the solution to this is, maybe there needs to be a larger discussion somewhere else. I hope you read this in the helpful tone that I intend. In the meantime, I suggest not using sources such as sailboat data and sailboat guide, as they aren't reliable. -- Mike 🗩 20:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Adam, has Who-Is been working for you the last week or two? I keep getting a timeout when clicking from an IP user's Special:Contributions page. Thanks. BilCat ( talk) 04:19, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Hey Adam,
An IP user has been removing references, content and inserting unsourced content into the Hai Kun-class submarine for the past 2 days. Some got reverted yesterday but after my last edit yesterday it seems to have escalated. Basicly all the edits after my edit from yesterday has featured only references removal and insertion of content that is not backed up with any source. Mostly this person seems to just leave previous references intact, which do not backup the content that this person has inserted. Some users like @Llammakey and @BilCat have tried to stop this person by reverting the article, but since there have been so many edits since my last edit I thought it was best to ask your help since you have rollback rights (which apparently can revert several edits?). Best regards SailingthroughHistory ( talk) 11:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
@ SailingthroughHistory: Report the vandal to WP:AIV. Catfurball ( talk) 16:06, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § RfC on the "Airlines and destinations" tables in airport articles. I saw that you participated in a discussion on a similar topic. Sunnya343 ( talk) 18:35, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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