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2024 North Las Vegas shooting

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This article appears to have been created via a copy-and-paste from Draft:2024 North Las Vegas shooting, despite that draft's recent decline for no sustained notability. Given the number of fatalities, it could be notable if there was sustained coverage, but I don't see evidence of this. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 21:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Newport Healthcare

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WP:ADMASQ WP:NCORP. Created by a single purpose account whose career on Wikipedia so far is making a series of edits over 13 minutes. While a few non-related changes were made, the primary purpose is evident. Lots of PR Newswire results, some non WP:SIGCOV level of magazine coverage. I conducted some, but not exhaustive WP:BEFORE search and NCORP appears to fail. It appears to be a non-notable likely promo article. Graywalls ( talk) 21:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Karl Anselm, Duke of Urach

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The notability of the subject of this article has been in question since 2010. The Lithuanian throne he is the third pretender to only existed for 8 months and was gone long before he was born. D1551D3N7 ( talk) 17:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Weak Keep the article must improve by adding more reliable sources to establish notability. The historical and genealogical context justifies its presence after several improvements. Yakov-kobi ( talk) 23:47, 01 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I strongly disagree - the genealogical and historical context is that his grandfather was elected controversially as King of Lithuania for all of 7 months and in that time he was never even in Lithuania. Wikipedia is not for hosting genelogical entries that do not support the readers understanding of a notable topic. Given the King of Lithuania topic played out long before Karl's birth I fail to see how this article can help with that.

  The Duke of Urach title is a courtesy title and I don't believe that's good ground for notability either. D1551D3N7 ( talk) 14:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete. It's just a genealogical entry with an uncited claim that he was a contender for the throne of Lithuania. Celia Homeford ( talk) 09:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep according to the reference from the arcticle he owns a huge junk of land (3598 acres), ^[1] the Greshornish Forestry estate. Axisstroke ( talk) 07:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I don't think land ownership is grounds for notability. I clicked around on the site of that reference and the first one i opened was https://web.archive.org/web/20090106212545/http://www.whoownsscotland.org.uk/page_cache/ar/glenbyre.htm someone who owns a similar sized plot who is not notable because they own it. Another similarly sized plot: https://web.archive.org/web/20081204210115/http://www.whoownsscotland.org.uk/page_cache/ar/turnalt.htm D1551D3N7 ( talk) 08:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

It depends on the size of the land ownership, in this case > 1000 ha, that is a considerable piece of land and hence it is notable. Moreover if it is a notable estate it is notable. Axisstroke ( talk) 09:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Does it depend on the size of the land ownership though? Do any policies exist that say land ownership is grounds for notability? If it were notable then it would be talked about in reliable sources and not just in a land ownership registry. This land in particular is a forest in a remote part of Scotland. The estate isn't notable, I can't find any sources that say much about it. There's this site that talks about a forest walk between Greshornish and Waternish https://www.visit-waternish.co.uk/greshornish-to-waternish-forests-walk/ and there is Greshornish House which is a hotel but I don't find these very compelling for the argument that the estate itself is notable and that by extension Karl would be. D1551D3N7 ( talk) 16:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• delete the article itself says the title Duke of Urach was abandoned in 1919, and this is nothing but pseudoaristocratic puffer which contributes nothing to the notability of the person. And there is no other claims of notability. WP:GNG is not satisfied either - Altenmann >talk 21:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment: This (as with other similar articles) -- is a merge candidate to the undersourced House of Urach#Dukes where he appears. ^~ Hydronium^~Hydroxide^{~ (Talk)~} 05:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Owning land - large tracts or not - is not in itself notable. If the area of land (or parts thereof) happens to be notable then owning it still does not confer notability on the owner ( WP:NOTINHERITED). ^~ Hydronium^~Hydroxide^{~ (Talk)~} 05:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ownership passes WP:NRV and WP:GNG. The owner has full rights of his land unless of course in communism. Axisstroke ( talk) 06:07, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The policies you mention are about notability of article subjects. If you mean that ownership contributes to notability, you are mistaken, there is no such Wikipedia rule. - Altenmann >talk 18:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Crocker Cemetery

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Non-notable cemetery, fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG, WP:NGEO. All the sources here are primary source documents or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. (The Sarasota History Alive item is a transcription of a local historical marker that focuses more on the associated church.) The church is arguably notable (and there's a draft at Draft:Crocker Church); any reliably sourced encyclopedic content about the cemetery could be merged there. I would have draftified this page but there's already a draft at Draft:Crocker Cemetery so that's not an option and AfD is the outcome. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 20:07, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Draftify: In the same spirit as the nominator, I believe this may be better returned to Draft. It may be susceptible to enhancement there to show and prove notability 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Either this page needs to be deleted or the draft where it would get sent needs to be deleted. Different mechanically but the same general outcome. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 21:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Strengths test

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This reads as an advert hiding as an article. It is only about one product, and I do not see this as a neutral article that should be in Wikipedia. Ldm1954 ( talk) 19:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Juan Carlos Cusi Martinez

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Academic who appears to be a research scientist, with not many publications, no wider coverage and no major awards. Notability was tagged by a different editor in May, nothing has been done. Hence time for an AfD as he seems to be far short of WP:NPROF Ldm1954 ( talk) 19:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Manorathangal

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References are brief mentions, WP:NEWSORGINDIA, or otherwise unreliable. Draftified previously but disputed as well as notability tag disputed. Would suggest a redirect to ZEE5. CNMall41 ( talk) 19:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lava (programming language)

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Second AfD nomination (previous: no consensus); no secondary coverage in reliable sources IntGrah ( talk) 19:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Lamar Thorpe

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Not notable for article. Only local with no significant coverage. WP:POLITICIAN CheekyUnicorn ( talk) 18:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete previous mayors of Antioch weren’t notable, and the current one isn’t either. Mccapra ( talk) 18:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Government First Grade College, Rajajinagar

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This is a very small college with only 260 places. None of the links to the college website that I could find work. I cannot find any references to the college except very brief summaries of what courses are provided. Newhaven lad ( talk) 18:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Delete: Doesn’t seem to meet GNG, no reliable sources provided, and it seems more of an advertisement than an article. The use of “it offers blah” gives it the promotional tone. Myrealnamm ( 💬pros · ✏️cons) 21:46, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Kindergarden (demoparty)

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. There is a Digi.no article, but it consists of telling what one of the organizers said. Other than that, I was only able to find mentions and short descriptions, such as "The two pure demo parties in Norway are Solskogen, which is organised in July every year, and Kindergarden, which is held in November. Kindergarden can boast that it is the world's oldest demo party that is still organised."

A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Demoscene#List of demoparties. toweli ( talk) 14:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Redirect: All the sources are self-published or that Digi.no article which is pretty much just an event announcement. Could not find anything on google for it either. Probably sufficient to put "Amiga-focused demoparty which began in a kindergarden in YEAR and ended in YEAR, reaching 200 attendees in YEAR". Mrfoogles ( talk) 15:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

i.e. just write what is possible based off those sources and maybe their website Mrfoogles ( talk) 15:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Al-Rashid, Baghdad

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I couldn't find reliable sources to confirm any of this information. Boleyn ( talk) 16:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Merge to Administrative districts in Baghdad. Reywas92 ^Talk 18:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. We have articles on all the administrative districts of Baghdad. It makes no sense to just delete this one. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: The nomination was regarding failure of WP:V. Do you have a rebuttal to that? Geschichte ( talk) 08:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC) reply

It can clearly be verified that it exists. Anything else is cleanup, and AfD is not cleanup. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep as it’s verifiably a municipality of Baghdad 1, 2, 3 and 4. Mccapra ( talk) 20:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Ginny Holder

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Non notable actress, Bar Holby City her roles have all been one-bit/minor roles, Cannot find anything in-depth on Google News (all are gossip/mentions), Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG – Davey2010 ^Talk 18:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Keep In addition to her recurring role in Holby City, she also made recurring appearances in Death in Paradise (TV series) (this is not cited in the article, but see this source, for instance). Thus, because she has had significant roles in these two series, she satisfies the criteria of WP:ENT. Gödel2200 ( talk) 21:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Probably not enough coverage... I find this [1] and a bunch of articles in Hello! about celebrity gossip, but nothing to use for notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Meets WP:NACTOR indeed, with at least 2 significant roles in notable productions, as Gödel2200 explained.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC) Update: at least 3 (see page).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC) Update; 6 (PLEASE see 1st Afd, where other productions and sources are mentioned...and that was closed as a clear and fair Keep)....- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete This is a tough one because while she does have a fair amount of credits, she herself has no significant third-party coverage despite being in the business for three decades, which is evident by her article having no content since the beginning, literally consisting of two sentences and a filmography. She is merely a byproduct in content focusing on Death in Paradise, and "meet the cast"–type articles do not meet SIGCOV. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 08:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Added a few things to the page.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Satisfies WP:NACTOR per above. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: I disagree with Casualty's statement, which seems to have mixed up GNG and SNG. The subject person has officially credited main roles in the television series Death in Paradise and The Capture, as well as a recurring role in Holby City which earned her a nomination for Female Performance in TV at the Screen Nation Film and Television Awards. This means the subject person has at least three significant roles in notable projects, which clearly fulfills NACTOR#1 and should be kept. — Prince of Erebor（ The Book of Mazarbul） 16:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep, as she had recurring roles in multiple shows — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sterencio ( talk • contribs) 22:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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NIILM School of Business

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Entirely unsourced. Fails WP:V, Fails WP:NORG. Rankings are not notability nor verification. WP:BEFORE finds nothing. WP:ADMASQ. Would have used CSD or PROD except for its age. I believe it deserves a discussion, not summary deletion. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Abdali Hospital

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Still not notable. The last AfD (when the article was named Abdali Medical Center) was 5 years ago and the decision was to keep the article although it is notable that there was a number of editors saying it met GNG but didn't/wouldn't consider whether the sourcing met NCORP criteria. Nothing has changed in the meantime for me. This is a company therefore GNG/ WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. None of the references have content that meets these criteria. HighKing ⁺⁺ 17:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Hafiz Baxish

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Zero references to establish notability. After searching, found other people of same name, but no comprehensive, in-depth coverage of this specific person. PROD removed 27 June 2024; PROD reverted 27 October 2022; PROD on 27 October 2022; Created on 27 August 2014. JoeNMLC ( talk) 14:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Yes, I mistakenly put a PROD on it last week without checking that it hadn't already had one. I agree with delete per nom. SomeoneDreaming ( talk) 18:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment The Azerbajani article gives 1 reference: "Tamxil Ziyəddinoğlu, "Hafiz Baxış-80". Bütöv Azərbaycan qəzeti, №36(168), 17-23 oktyabr 2012-ci il." This appears to be an article in a reasonable news source. I can't find it but I think he may have significant coverage. Mrfoogles ( talk) 16:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Week keep. Found a few Azeri sources ( [2], [3], [4]) that I think are just over the line of WP:SIGCOV. Reviewing with machine translation though, so could be wrong -- happy to be convinced either way. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 05:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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The Machine in the Garden (band)

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No reviews at AllMusic: https://www.allmusic.com/artist/machine-in-the-garden-mn0000220430 and otherwise lack of WP:SIGCOV. References requested since 2011 yet none present. Warren L.T. Peace ( talk) 16:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Chris Vander Kaay

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Mildly promotional biography of a writer fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, WP:NWRITER. Sources are all primary (principally WP:INTERVIEWS or the subject's own writing that is not independent) or they are WP:USERGENERATED. No evidence of his books being reviewed by independent reliable sources. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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The Ivory Tower (album)

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I'm not sure if this album is notable. There's a PopMatters review and there's a brief review in HM (magazine) (page 32). According to the Wikipedia article, there's also a Kerrang review, but I wasn't able to find it; according to oldies.com music mail-order company, it at least contained the words "Taking driving riffs and breakdowns from emo and the huge radio-hugging choruses of, say, Journey or Mister Mister, Orange County quintet Takota are on to a winner on this, their debut album." Other than that, there's a Punktastic review, consisting of 10 adjectives, there's an Alternative Vision review ( listed as generally unreliable on WP:A/S), and there's a NeuFutur review, a publication I hadn't heard of until today. toweli ( talk) 16:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Pál Csokán

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I couldn't find sources to add proving he meets WP:PROF / WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 16:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. He seems to be virtually unknown to chemists outside Hungary. Google Scholar lists six publications, five in Hungarian and one in German, with a total of four citations. The Hungarian version of the article says that "More than 200 scientific articles and 17 books, university notes and book excerpts have been published," (from Google Translate), so maybe Google Scholar has it wrong. Athel cb ( talk) 17:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. I don't think Google Scholar has it wrong. My searches aren't showing any support for any criterion of WP:NPROF being met. Qflib ( talk) 17:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Further on Tomorrow

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I couldn't find sources to add confirming it meets WP:NALBUM / WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 16:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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List of Warner Bros. films (1970–1979)

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I couldn't find sources to add confirming all information, and showing it meets WP:NLIST / WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 15:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Speedy keep You've gotten nothing but keep votes at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Universal Pictures films (1980–1989), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Columbia Pictures films (1990–1999), and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Paramount Pictures films (1970–1979), so why the hell are you nominating this too with the same rationale? And why are you only nominating one subpage in a set of eleven? This is a perfectly valid split of Lists of Warner Bros. films, a navigational and informational list that passes NLIST. The lack of sources is a cleanup issue, not a basis for deletion. Reywas92 ^Talk 16:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: There are many sources on the history and films of Warner Bros. Pictures, including Warner Bros: The Making of an American Movie Studio, Warner Bros: Hollywood's Ultimate Backlot, You Must Remember This: The Warner Bros. Story, and more. Toughpigs ( talk) 16:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: Is an obvious split of Lists of Warner Bros. films an obviously notable topic as a set, as has been noted (by me but also by other users) in various recent very similar nominations by the same nominator...... - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: There is no good reason not to. CheekyUnicorn ( talk) 19:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Nigerian states by literacy rate

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I couldn't find sources to confirm the information in this, or to show it meets WP:NLIST / WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 15:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom; I found [5] which has very different literacy stats. There is no content other than the data-table; Education in Nigeria might be a place to cover literacy in Nigeria more broadly. Walsh90210 ( talk) 15:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The list is deleted from the internet. It had a good source with UNESCO. Can someone find in Archives maybe?-- Afus199620 ( talk) 16:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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2006 Categoría Primera A season

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I couldn't find sources to add confirming the information and showing it meets WP:N. Boleyn ( talk) 15:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Weak Keep presumably the RSSSF archives would be a source for the statistical data, they are also on ESPN [6]. Generally Wikipedia has article on top-flight football leagues of countries of the size (and football-enthusiasm) of Colombia. There is no non-statistical sourcing; I expect there is some in Spanish but without finding some there is a clear argument for deletion here. Walsh90210 ( talk) 15:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Keep It's absolutely notable as a top flight football league. Spanish Wikipedia has sources, but no direct link because it breaks the seasons up into Apertura and Clausura, which contains links to sources: [7] [8] But there's a 100% chance this is notable: I was able to find [9] very quickly, and ESPN Deportes has all of the statistics on their website as well. SportingFlyer T· C 17:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Kodjo Aziangbe

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Contested PROD; subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Sources are limited to databases and routine match coverage. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 15:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Horizon Services

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Ordinary, run of the mill rehab for the local community that has no place on a global scale encyclopedia. Fails WP:NCORP. Graywalls ( talk) 15:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Nenjathai Killadhe (2014 TV series)

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Fails WP:GNG; sources are limited to tabloid coverage excluded per WP:SBST and WP:USERGENERATED sources. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 14:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect to List of programmes broadcast by Zee Tamil (India): curiously the series was listed there for years ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Zee_Tamil_(India)&oldid=963550928) but has been removed. Will re-add it in and re-create the soap opera section (so that the link I suggest for target is List of programmes broadcast by Zee Tamil (India)#Soap operas. Will add a source ( https://nettv4u.com/about/tamil/tv-serials/nenjathai-killadhe/all-cast-and-crew). The fact that a 2024 series with the same title exists (not to mention the 2 feature films) is, I think, another reason to maintain a redirect (so as to help the reader). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I'm OK with this redirect as nominator. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 17:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Note: Alternative transcriptions: Nenjathai Killathe(y) (or Killadey). The show might also be considered notable for the come back as actorr of SPB Charan, after a 13 year gap. But I understand that this might be considered cherry-picking. (not opposed to keep, though, if other users think this is important enough to be noted).- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Redirect to List of programmes broadcast by Zee Tamil (India). Not enough reliable coverage to show notability.

Peter Crocker

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Disputed draftification. Fails WP:BIO. It is difficult with things so long ago. Even so, I am struggling to see what makes this industrious man notable in a Wikipedia sense. He appears to have had a decent, unexceptional life, like so many of his peers. WP:ROTM 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  I have personally done research on this topic as a professional in the field and can vouch for this page to be published, as is.

  I’m confused as to what you mean by “unexceptional”. It’s as if you haven’t read the article, where it is mentioned that he was a postmaster, civil war veteran, trustee of Philippi School and city planner.

  He was an early pioneer of Sarasota, Florida and is grouped in with his notable peers (A.B. Edwards, William Whitaker, and John Hamilton Gillespie) in various newspapers which I have provided citation to. The cemetery he established still exists and the church he built is on the historical register and owned by the historical society. Two other Wikipedia pages ( Crocker cemetery and Crocker church) reference him as the founder. He deserves to have a page where readers of the other pages can find out who he was and what he did. When citizens of Sarasota go to learn more about their history it is important they have a resource (Wikipedia) to learn about this man and his contributions to the early community. A surplus of information is always better than a lack of it.

  Your grounds for deletion, not "notable in Wikipedia sense," have no pertinent standing whatsoever. Htystudent ( talk) 15:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  In addition to the source already listed within the article, here is some verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support the claim of notability. Though, viewing these may be an issue since the database requires a subscription. The links look identical, but they are all individual articles that mention Peter Crocker.

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  Access Newspaper Archive Institutional Version | Viewer Htystudent ( talk) 16:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment both Crocker Cemetery and Crocker Church were created by the same editor as this article, in the past week. Their existence on-wiki does not demonstrate anything. Walsh90210 ( talk) 15:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Yes, but were they moved to articles for deletion? That means they were significant enough to still exist, so this page should be as well. Unless you think Peter Crocker did not make the standard for notability, which I have just demonstrated that he likely does. I will include that information in this reply as well.

  In addition to the multiple sources already listed within the article, here is some verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support the claim of notability. Though, viewing these may be an issue since the database requires a subscription. The links look identical, but they are all individual articles that mention Peter Crocker.

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  Htystudent ( talk) 16:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ Htystudent I have left you advice on your user talk page, Most people find such advice of value. I hope you do as well. On a technical matter, I was not allowed under WP:DRAFTIFY to return this to draft once more. My two options since I was not going to edit it were to send it here, or to ignore it. I chose to send it here for community discussion.

  Any editor, you included, is entitled to offer Draftification (please place it in 'bold at the start of the line, and on a new line). The deletion discussion is a direct result of your moving it to mainspace before it was ready. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Comment: I am not averse to the outcome of this discussion being to send back to draft for further development. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Comment. I cannot view any of the newspaper links to validate whether they include WP:SIGCOV. I agree that Crocker seems like a WP:ROTM individual, but without being able to view the sources I cannot weigh in with a !vote either way. I have not been able to turn up any other appropriate sources to establish notability. If the page creator were to request draftification I would support that. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 20:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ Dclemens1971 I have told them the same thing on their user talk page 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

SMK Seri Kembangan

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Article does not satisfy Wikipedia's general notability guidelines ; most of the secondary sources cited are paid materials by Multimedia University (see WP:SPIP.) N niyaz ( talk) 10:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment Since I cited most of the secondary sources in the article. I would like to ask the nominator for deletion N niyaz, is it possible to list some of the secondary sources that you claimed are paid materials by Asia Pacific University? KjjjKjjj ( talk) 11:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Okay @ KjjjKjjj I made a little mistake there, what I meant was Multimedia University. Also the school receives no significant coverage and most of the sources are just mentions. Unfortunately what's best is to make it a redirect.

https://www.wilayahku.com.my/smk-seri-permaisuri-antara-13-sekolah-angkat-mmu/

https://sinarbestari.sinarharian.com.my/ipt/sekolah-angkat-mmu-persiapkan-pelajar-ke-arah-digitalisasi N niyaz ( talk) 13:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ N niyaz: If I'm not mistaken and correct me If I'm wrong, both of the sources you said have no mention of being paid. KjjjKjjj ( talk) 14:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ KjjjKjjj You could already tell by the topic and style of the writing that it is a press release/paid article. Trying to find a paid article disclaimer in the sources is just stupid. N niyaz ( talk) 06:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep Multiple secondary sources, passes WP:NOTABILITY at it's barest. KjjjKjjj ( talk) 14:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Yoke Kuan High School

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Does not satisfy Wikipedia's general notability guidelines (see WP:GNG,) not an important school in Malaysia, and no reliable and independent sources cited or significant coverage. N niyaz ( talk) 10:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect to List of schools in Selangor. I suggests to refer to the redirected version of Anglo-Chinese School, Melaka despite of the recent discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bukit Jalil National Secondary School. I would like to apply my suggestion to the other 19 schools under proposed deletion in [10]. Ong Kai Jin ( talk) 12:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Argh! 17 of them have just got deleted. Ong Kai Jin ( talk) 08:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Unfortunately, this school along with the 19 other schools should not be exempt from the deletion similarly subjected to the article you cited. N niyaz ( talk) 08:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect as suggested above due to lack of standalone notability, failure to meet WP:NORG. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

List of educational organisations in North Paravur

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Non notable list per WP:LIST. WP:DIRECTORY applies too with no WP:SIGCOV. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 10:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Merge Redirect to North_Paravur#Educational_organisations. Changed my vote to redirect because I do not think it makes any better to merge the list that fails significant coverage with no reliable secondary independent sources and fails WP:NLIST. RangersRus ( talk) 12:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Redirect to North Paravur: As nominator, I won't mind a redirect to the parent town article either. The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 12:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Live Art Development Agency

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Sources not passing WP:ORGIND and I believe it fails WP:NCORP Graywalls ( talk) 07:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Comment: As well the 2011 piece by Lyn Gardner of The Guardian which is referenced in the article, searches also find a 2019 piece by the same author. It is partly an interview with the co-founder of LADA, but starts with the writer's overview of the Live Art field and evaluation of LADA's role in it. AllyD ( talk) 12:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• The following doesn't contribute to notability here, but I will also note that the present article doesn't mention organisational controversy during 2023 ( news item discussing the closure threat and petition). AllyD ( talk) 12:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Quick google scholar search https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22live+art+development+agency%22&btnG= indicates multiple quality sources referencing the organisation and its significance in global and UK live art, including books https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=wyJHEAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA12&dq=%22live+art+development+agency%22&ots=M7sejwMOu5&sig=66lY7cxWvj0E_0jIdmuCmVU5DN8&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22live%20art%20development%20agency%22&f=false and peer review articles dating back to the early 2000s DrawingDays ( talk) 09:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

I vote against deletion. While the article has issues, they aren't based on notability. It is clearly a well-cited and long running organisation that is important the UK cultural scene. The article could more clearly lay out the history and challenges of the org, as mentioned above, but this doesn't warrant deletion. genericxz ( talk) 13:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep The nominator has invoked WP:NCORP, however from this link [11] we see that the subject is a charity, therefore WP:NONPROFIT applies. It is not necessary for the subject to meet the more stringent guidelines put in place for corporate entities. On this basis - in particular including from the arguments above - there does appear sufficient coverage and citations of the activities of this charity to have a reasonable presumption of notability. Resonant Dis_tortion 22:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Weak keep. The vast majority of sources in the article are primary or affiliated, or they are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS that discuss LADA in passing. However, we have a bare minimum pass of WP:NORG with Chatzichristodoulou et al., Martin and Keidan. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Otherwize

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Article about a non-notable rapper. Sources are passing mentions and nothing indepth on the subject. I don't see it satisfies WP:NMUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Jamiebuba ( talk) 07:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per both WP:NOTINHERITED and WP:NMUSIC. His only claim to fame is attached to Eminem, and that was 27 years ago. No notable discography or chart activity, and the titles of the citations in the article don't even mention the subject, but other rappers. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 20:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep per WP:NMUSIC. WP:NMUSIC states "Musicians ... may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria." Otherwize clearly meets 3 of the criteria: #1, #7, and #9.

  1. He has been featured in multiple documentaries (Where We're From and Freestyle: The Art of Rhyme), books (The Come Up, The Way I Am, King Khule, Born a Villain), and articles (HipHopDX, etc.). His prominence in the documentaries have nothing to do with Eminem, so they are not inherited notability.

  7. In Where We're From, Otherwize is cited as the most prominent battle rapper in his region (LA) during this era. That has nothing to do with Eminem, so it's not inherited notability.

  9. Otherwize won 1st Place and 3rd Place in major national music competitions (Rap Olympics '97 and Scribble Jam '99). Granted, one of those was defeating Eminem, but the other one was not, and they are still placings in national music competitions regardless of who he defeated. So this is not inherited notability.

  He is also part of a notable crew called Project Blowed, which is also a subject of documentaries (This is the Life and Hip-Hop Evolution). He featured on the important Los Angeles underground albums Beneath the Surface and Cater to the DJ. Hierarchitectitiptitoploftical ( talk) 20:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per HopalongCasualty. Looking at the article's existing references, and searching for others, I don't believe this figure meets WP:NOTABILITY. Many of the references, some from sources that do not seem reliable, are good examples of WP:NOTINHERITED — his attachment to Eminem does not establish his own notability, and almost enters WP:BLP1E territory as well. GhostOfNoMeme 14:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Indus Capital Partners

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Fails WP:NCORP. Current sources do not meet WP:SIRS. Can't seem to find anything independent that really covers the fund in-depth right now. Imcdc Contact 11:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per nom; the firm does not appear to be the subject of substantial press coverage. Walsh90210 ( talk) 16:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Permian Investment Partners

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Fails WP:NCORP. I cannot find any independent sources that covers the fund specifically and fulfils WP:SIRS. There are some sources about the founder or about it launching but not really anything in-depth. Imcdc Contact 10:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per nom; the firm does not appear to be the subject of substantial press coverage. Walsh90210 ( talk) 16:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Peter Wall (entrepreneur)

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WP:BLP of a crypto entrepreneur, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for businesspeople. As always, CEOs of companies are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to establish that they pass WP:GNG on third-party coverage and analysis about them and their work -- but five of the eight footnotes here are primary sources that are not support for notability, such as his own company's press releases and his own self-created YouTube videos and a "staff" profile on the self-published website of an organization he's directly affiliated with, and one more is an unreliable source crypto-news forum. And what's left for reliable sources is one Forbes article that just briefly namechecks him as a provider of soundbite and one Forbes article that completely fails to contain even a glancing namecheck of Peter Wall at all, and instead is just here to tangentially verify stray facts about a company without providing any evidence that any of those facts have anything in particular to do with Peter Wall.
As always, Wikipedia is not a free LinkedIn alternative for tech entrepreneurs, so nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced much, much better than this. Bearcat ( talk) 12:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  I complete understand your reservations about Peter Wall, and it was never my intention to sound like a Linkedin profile. Maybe I did not do due negligence when sourcing my references but the entire of the article was becuase he is a notable man both in Canadian media and in bitcoin. Can I nominate that we move the article to a draft while I source for other sources which do exist on the individual concerned and am sure when you searched online you will find that Peter Wall is extensively covered. LynnEditor.Nam ( talk) 14:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment: current sourcing is Canada C3 Coast to Coast describing him as a team member (non-independent), a coworking space review mentioning his company but not him, two sources by him (non-independent), and two sources mentioning him joining and leaving as CEO without saying much about (providing significant coverage of) him, one short source about an IPO not mentioning him, and the bitcoin mining rush source which includes a quote from him and says basically nothing else. Mrfoogles ( talk) 08:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Draftify as suggested: nominator is being unnecessarily harsh by calling it "not a free linkedin alternative" but I cannot find sources googling that are not associated with him, by him, or coverage that does not go into detail of him being in various positions.

Per Wikipedia:Notability, significant coverage (at least a paragraph specifically talking about him and who he is) from at least two reliable, independent (not affiliated with, employing, employed by, working together with him) sources is necessary for an article so that it can be written sufficiently independently and in-depth. Mrfoogles ( talk) 08:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete: This isn't a notable person. This is about the best [12] and it's a PR item. A video journalist is just a "grunt behind the camera", to be blunt, and isn't notable. He's reported on things that happened, which is what videographers do. The crypto connection isn't helping notability. There is a real estate person in Vancouver that has coverage (with the same name), but it's not this person. Oaktree b ( talk) 00:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Best source about this person I found is [13], and although it's reliable it's hardly WP:SIGCOV. — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thelma Rodgers

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Fails WP:BIO. 2 of the 4 sources are dead. out of the other sources, this one is just a 1 line mention and not WP:SIGCOV. No real article links to this. Being the first woman to spend time at a base is not a claim for notablity. Google news yielded nothing. LibStar ( talk) 04:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete per nom. No indication of passing GNG. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{( Talk Contribs)} 06:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep or merge. This has an enormous amount of coverage: probably >10 paragraphs. Full paragraph in this article. This does pass GNG. Being the first woman to overwinter at a base when it took an effort, and there is significant coverage of the experiences is a claim for notability. That said given she only operated the equipment and wasn't a scientist with her own discoveries to cover it may be more appropriate to put in a section in Scott Base. Mrfoogles ( talk) 08:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Probably have to merge, given the limited coverage, but I would argue there is notability and a reasonable claim to GNG Mrfoogles ( talk) 08:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep: there is substantial coverage in the Bradshaw source, and a geographical feature Rodgers Point bears her name: Wikipedia should be able to answer the question "Who was that Rodgers?", and the current article does so nicely. Pam D 09:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge I've had a look what The Press has on offer and found that she was secretary of the Canterbury Caving Club soon after it was founded, and that it was not until 1988 that the second New Zealand woman spent a winter on the ice. The article in the Antarctic Magazine is very decent, but without at least a second article of substance, there isn't a good reason to keep this article. Merging seems appropriate. Schwede 66 09:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Notability is clearly stated in lede and documented in Antarctic Magazine. There are two other sources that seem to be reliable secondary sources but they're based in New Zealand so I'm not familiar with them ( Newshub and The Spinoff). Finally, Rodgers was born before 1950 and it's more difficult to find reliable secondary sources for women from this time because they were less likely to be written about. Nnev66 ( talk) 18:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Being born before 1950 is not an excuse for lack of sources. LibStar ( talk) 23:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  There are at least three sources and I found a couple of others but all are noting the same milestone, that Rodgers was the first New Zealand woman scientist to winter over in Antarctica. Is the issue here that this isn't notable enough or there are not enough sources discussing this milestone in depth? There might have been more in depth sources if she had been born later, which I believe is why WikiProject Women's History makes that distinction. Nnev66 ( talk) 01:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  If she was born in 1920 I could understand. "that Rodgers was the first New Zealand woman scientist to winter over in Antarctica" is in itself not a claim for notability. LibStar ( talk) 01:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I've thought more about this and appreciate points on all sides. If Rodgers had wintered-over in 1989 this would not be notable. To me she's notable because she broke the glass ceiling. She pushed on in the face of obstacles and became the first woman to do this. I've tried to add more details to the article to draw this out. I wish there was more in-depth coverage but there are four sources that appear to be reliable. Note in the past couple of months I've been monitoring AfD and AfC women scientist pages and I try to improve them if I think there's notability. It's more difficult to follow the breadcrumbs for those born earlier in the 20th century - just not as much is written about them. Nnev66 ( talk) 00:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep, although a weak keep. I agree that first women to winter-over doesn't seem super notable, but there is one comprehensive source with good biographical info and she is regularly mentioned in reliable secondary sources (together, meeting WP:BASIC). Plus, there's the fact of a geographical feature and one of the Scott Base labs being named after her. All up, I think there's enough. Chocmilk03 ( talk) 08:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Noting that there's a paragraph on her in Call of the Ice, which I've just added as a source to the article. It doesn't add very much to what's already in the article, though, apart from that she'd already been in summer '76/77 (which makes sense, presumably you'd do that before going for winter). Chocmilk03 ( talk) 02:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge She's the first woman to winter-over specifically at Scott Base. Others came before her in Antarctica more generally; there are also many thousands of named Antarctic landforms, so I'm not convinced this is a basis for notability for a standalone article. Reywas92 ^Talk 13:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  I think she's more the first New Zealand woman to over-winter: Scott Base being the NZ Arctic base makes it almost the same thing but "first NZ woman" has a greater significance. Pam D 15:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete Falls short of GNG. Not really sure what can be merged to Scott Base in an encyclopaedic fashion. If someone can show a draft/example feel free to ping me and I'll reconsider. Also she isn't a scientist, but that isn't an issue if the article is merged/deleted. Traumnovelle ( talk) 08:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge. I think a good case has already been made by others that this BLP doesn't have significant standalone notability and what is being used to assert notability is more superficial than it appears. I would be edging towards delete with that in mind, but merge seems like a really good option here in terms of WP:CONSENSUS and weighting policy/guideline since content on Rodgers is so closely tied to the location based on this article. It's a bit of case of WP:BLP1E otherwise, so the paragraph in that source would be the most I'd see moving over there (and probably less). KoA ( talk) 17:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Weak keep, seems to be a good amount of coverage for WP:GNG.David Palmer// cloventt ^{( talk)} 04:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Pukaar – Dil Se Dil Tak

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I am neutral in this filing but feel a consensus is needed here than deleting the page and redirecting, given that this is an ongoing tv show which satisfies WP:TV. Also I don't find any issues with the current sources of this article, only thing is that more WP:RS sources should be added. Editingmylove ( talk) 06:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete - With only 28 edits you may not be familiar with WP:NEWSORGINDIA which is what all of these references fall under. Nothing reliable to show notability. I would also say that a redirect wouldn't be a suitable WP:ATD based on the objection to it. -- CNMall41 ( talk) 07:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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• Redirect to List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Sony_Entertainment_Television#Current_broadcasts: Not opposed to keep, given existing coverage. A redirect is not only suitable but should always be considered when production, cast and broadcast are verifiable, which the said coverage clearly allows. If someone objected to the redirect, it is most likely because they wished a standalone page, not on principled opposition to keep history and allow further improvement or expansion here or on the target page. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: not enough WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG and does not meet the WP:NFILM criteria. (Also fine with a redirect) — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Rewant Ram Danga

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Clearly fails WP:NPOL. He contested the Rajasthan Assembly Elections in the year 2023 from Khinwsar Assembly constituency. In which he was defeated. Youknow? ( talk) 06:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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https://www.livehindustan.com/assembly-elections/rajasthan-elections/constituency/khinwsar-110/

Check this news to verify that he contested the Rajasthan Assembly Elections in the year 2023 for Khinwasar Assembly Constituency. TejalGraphics ( talk) 07:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TejalGraphics The point is that he contested but didn’t win. Politicians aren’t presumptively notable by virtue of their candidacy in an election. They have to, at least, win the notable position they contested for. If they don’t win and they pass the general notability guideline, then that’s a different case. Neither is the case for Danga. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 10:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete: Clearly fails NPOL. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️ ^{Let's Talk !} 09:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Fails WP:POL and WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Duane Davis (gangster)

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Merge into Murder of Tupac Shakur. Textbook case of WP:BLP1E and a potential violation of WP:BLPCRIME. Most of the text in the article is about the murder and the various theories surrounding the possible perpetrator, not Davis. Davis hasn't been convicted or found guilty, and the coverage surrounding him is only in the context of the one event -- the murder of Tupac Shakur. Longhornsg ( talk) 04:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Merge as suggested seems like the best way to proceed here. He isn't notable as a "criminal" (he hasn't been tried yet, only arrested), or otherwise, only notable in relation to the Tupac murder. He was arrested and is in jail, pending the trial. Unsure if he might even pass criminal notability if and when he should be found guilty either. Oaktree b ( talk) 04:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Paulette Flint

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Does not meet WP:AUTHOR and WP:BIO. Many of the citations are primary as her employer is The Observer (Gladstone). Not seeing indepth third party coverage to meet WP:BIO. Also an orphan article. LibStar ( talk) 04:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: although being an orphan isn't a reason for deletion, there's not enough WP:RS to meet WP:GNG, and none of the WP:AUTHOR criteria apply. — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:49, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
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Red Storm (webtoon)

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Fails significant coverage. The little commentary I found is in this CBR listicle, others are just plot summary and mention in other listicles. Neocorelight ( Talk) 02:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Comment: could there be Korean sources we're missing? Not to say it might not be non-notable. Mrfoogles ( talk) 08:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Who knows? Maybe you can find them? I can't read Korean. Neocorelight ( Talk) 09:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Per WP:GNG, before you nominate articles for deletion, you really should search in the native language of the topic. As you're the one making the proposal, I'd argue the burden of proof is on you to follow through with it. With machine translation it's really not that hard, as you only need a high-level understanding of what each source says. Almost every day I see deletion nominations like these.

That said, I'm leaning delete. I'm a Korean speaker and didn't find much convincing sigcov. 211.43.120.242 ( talk) 07:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Weak delete – I am not an expert at Korean sources and cannot quite tell you which of these sources are reliable right now, but this is what I'm finding:

• gameca.com, three paragraphs as part of a list.
• techm.kr, three paragraphs as part of a list.
• news.nate.com, listed entry, basically nothing.
• news.nate.com, listed entry, basically nothing.
• mk.co.kr, listed entry, basically nothing.
• yna.co.kr, listed entry, basically nothing.
• chosun.com, author quote, basically nothing.
• sisaprime.co.kr, listed entry that is given ridiculously high praise (Google Translate gives me Kakao Webtoon, which has created major action/martial arts/fantasy masterpieces that will leave a lasting mark in webtoon history, such as .. Red Storm. Segye.com might be a copy, extremely similar text)

I currently have no idea which of these are reliable, but sourcing is fairly weak either way. If someone can find better sources I haven't found yet, I'd be happy to see them. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 15:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• weak keep: Coverage in a newspaper from Uganda [14], doesn't appear to be a "pay to publish" article, I suppose Ugandans watch South Korean online manga-type stories? Oaktree b ( talk) 00:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  or a redirect to Kakao [15], the publisher? Oaktree b ( talk) 00:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  The Observer.ug article is a coverage of a different comic. Red Storm is only mentioned. The second source is just a single-sentence announcement. Neocorelight ( Talk) 01:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• With this source I would probably support an article on the author, but it doesn't help much for this specific work. A redirect to a listing at Kakao Webtoon would be appropriate, yes. ~ Maplestrip/Mable ( chat) 06:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Nirad Solanki

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There is a lot of refbombing in this orphan article. Whilst a lot of the coverage confirms he bought businesses and bars, none of this is indepth to meet WP:SIGCOV. Just a run of the mill businessman that doesn't meet WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 02:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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For the Freedom of Nations!

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There is little to indicate that this one-time 2024 event has notability. There is a lot of sourcing but little of it is reliable. Of the few RS that are cited, they make off-hand one-sentence mentions of this event or they explain the insignificance of the event. thena ( talk) 21:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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A number of the cited sources may have a pro-Russia slant, but it also cites some directly critical sources under "criticism" and just looking it up on google I also found this bit of sigcov from a more generally anti-Western Turkish source; ONEEVENT is certainly a concern but it is also possible the sources required are simply spread out over many different languages that we only need more time and input to compile. Orchastrattor ( talk) 22:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

The European Council on Foreign Relations citation seems perfectly admissible for GNG in particular. Orchastrattor ( talk) 22:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Delete as it fails WP:SUSTAINED. Plenty of one-time conferences have gained sustained notability (e.g., the Bandung Conference), but this article does not qualify. - Amigao ( talk) 22:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep per the multiple sources available which indicates that it meets WP:GNG. The only issue with the article is WP:Toosoon but this will not affect the article because it is a multinational inter-party movement and it is not likely to die down soon, will rather gather more momentum. LocomotiveEngine ( talk) 07:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Its sources almost entirely fail the crucial point of "Independent of the subject" per WP:GNG. See WP:TASS for example. - Amigao ( talk) 21:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Weak Keep - I think this event is sufficiently notable. It may be a little early to judge ref WP:SUSTAINED but, @ Amigao it’s import to pay due regard to WP:NTEMP. I agree with @ Thena and @ Orchastrattor that the references are poor and fall short of the standard described by WP:RELIABLESOURCES. I’ve done some cursory research and there are some western perspectives available that could compliment the pro-Russian sources currently in the article. (NB - Orchastrattor is being generous when they say. ‘May have’)

TLDR/ Improve references. Too narrow. Adamfamousman ( talk) 00:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC) reply

If it's too early to judge WP:SUSTAINED then it's WP:TOOSOON for this article to exist. - Amigao ( talk) 12:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Keep - meets WP:GNG, and I believe it is notable enough. Brat Forelli🦊 22:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete Agree with Amigao. Also I can't help but be suspicious when a new user just creates an article as their first edit MaskedSinger ( talk) 08:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Absolutely tendentious rationale, just about every worthwhile article I've ever seen on AFC has come from a brand-new account or an IP. Orchastrattor ( talk) 18:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Move to draft pending development of sources demonstrating sustained notability. BD2412 T 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Too Lost (company)

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Still unclear if there's enough independent coverage for WP:NCORP.

Previous AfD was speedied per the author's request. Also speedied for copyvio Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Too Lost, also deleted under G12 KH-1 ( talk) 02:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Fails the NCORP sourcing criteria as most of the sources are routine announcements, trade publications or brief mentions. S0091 ( talk) 15:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Sources fail WP:NCORP as WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, WP:TRADES publications or WP:ORGTRIV mentions. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 16:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Mott family murders

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Fails NEVENT. All sources are from the week this happened, no follow up, failing WP:SUSTAINED. In addition, familicides are by far the most common kind of mass murder and tend to receive the least coverage, so the odds that this will receive any kind of retrospective coverage when coverage has ceased, especially since it's been two years with nothing, is slim to none. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 01:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: Even without WP:CRYSTALing, this has barely been mentioned and therefore fails WP:GNG, and it's nowhere near having the lasting consequences needed for WP:NEVENT. — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:46, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom. Walsh90210 ( talk) 16:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

TFhost

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I'm not seeing much third party coverage, likely to fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Unclear how much weight should be given to those awards. KH-1 ( talk) 03:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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  Hi, as per WP:CORPDEPTH there a couple more recent references made even before this listing, https://von.gov.ng/website-hosting-firm-advocates-enhanced-data-protection-measures/ , https://dailytrust.com/cybersecurity-firm-urges-nigerians-to-guide-their-data-online/ . This nomination for deletion should be rescinded in my opinon 4555hhm ( talk) 13:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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The awards are verifiable especially those from NIRA, the Authority Domain Registry in Nigeria. The information on the awards is stated on NIRA website as per https://www.nira.org.ng and that has a lot of weight. 4555hhm ( talk) 13:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Kristofer Karlsson

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The links provided are all primary. Could not find third party coverage of this individual. LibStar ( talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Handball, Sweden, and Australia. LibStar ( talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete: No independent sources available. — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete: Doesn’t meet WP:GNG, no reliable references, the author should consider seeking more references, a lot is written on the article but nothing to show or prove notability. Madeforall1 ( talk) 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. I've expanded the article and added references from Yle, Vestmanlands Läns Tidning, sv:Enköpings-Posten. Some of these are shorter news pieces, but a couple of them have more substance. / Julle ( talk) 21:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  Ping Alien333 and Madeforall1 in case you want to take another look. These sources were a bit difficult to locate if one doesn't speak Swedish (and in a couple of cases required access to newspaper archive to find them). / Julle ( talk) 21:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Girl Geeks Scotland

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Fails WP:ORG. 3 of the 4 sources are dead. The remaining source [16] is a small mention. LibStar ( talk) 01:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: No independent sources available. — Alien333 ( what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep. I found and added archived versions of the broken links. There are four good references, including two from mainstream newspapers. The article should be moved to Girl Geek Scotland, the organization's correct name.
• Keep — clearly, the article needs a rewrite and the inclusion of additional references. However, as per WP:CONTN and WP:NPOSSIBLE, the current state of the article has no bearing on its notability. Reliable and independent sources do exist: I am able to find a decent number of them. I see coverage in The Scotsman, Holyrood, BBC, City A.M., The Independent, and others. I think there is enough to establish notability. GhostOfNoMeme 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC) reply