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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
Making a Washington Post story for your vandalism reverting skillz is worthy of a barnstar. [1] Congratulations! B 02:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC) |
The Special Barnstar | ||
To Tvoz, on the very special occasion of an NPR program, for outstanding contributions to Wikipedia. - Susanlesch ( talk) 05:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar | ||
For going above and beyond the call of duty to deal with the Hillary Rodham Clinton FAC when the nominator didn't follow up. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:42, 29 April 2008 (UTC) |
The Original Barnstar | ||
If only more Wikipedians saw things with the reason and cogency in this talk page edit, this would be a far better project indeed. So what if I'm a little biased because you agreed with me twice...nice job anyway! Frank | talk 00:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |
The Epic Barnstar | ||
For another multi-year veteran of the 2008 candidates biographical articles and always-relevant music articles, for continuing to maintain a roaring presence. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC) |
The Half Barnstar | ||
For your efforts in collaborating with User:Utahredrock (who holds the other half of this barnstar), to bring Mark E. Kelly up to GA status. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:58, 5 March 2011 (UTC) |
Cents for Sense | ||
Sometimes two cents is worth alot more than it seems. Your comments about paid editing broaden the base for communication and discussion and widen the circle of ideas. Thanks for giving yours and providing some personal insight at various WP locations. ``` Buster Seven Talk 14:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
Thank you for making sure the Trayvon Martin case had sufficient oversight and neutrality. I greatly appreciate your input. HectorMoffet ( talk) 12:55, 3 April 2012 (UTC) |
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
I like the way you think. ArishiaNishi ( talk) 06:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC) |
The Resilient Barnstar | ||
No one deserves to be jumped on like that for simply speaking their mind, especially off-site. Don't let the drama hounds get you down. You do good work here, and you don't deserve to be discouraged from being as candid as you like about your own personal opinions. 66.87.4.63 ( talk) 02:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
Mind the Gap Award | ||
For saying the right thing, at the right time, in the right place. andreasegde ( talk) 09:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
The Copyeditor's Barnstar | |
In appreciation for the scrutiny and high-caliber copy-edit work to the betterment of Wikipedia, I present you with this award. Cheers, Kierzek ( talk) 12:28, 2 November 2015 (UTC) |
Sic transit gloria mundi... my brushes with media fame
The Washington Post 17 September 2007 (front page)
National Public Radio 3 April 2008 (click on "Listen Now" - scroll down to "'Round the clock")
Télérama (France) 20 May 2011
cited in Wikipedia Signpost "In the News" 5 May 2011
GlobalPost 6 February 2012
CNN.com 6 February 2012
Slate 6 February 2012
The Wall Street Journal 13 October 2012 (front page)
National Journal 1 November 2015
cited in Wikipedia Signpost "In the Media" 18 Nov 2015
my editing of
Barack Obama biography also
cited in Wikipedia Signpost "Dispatches" 10 Nov 2008
ZOMG!! I'm not worthy! You totally made it into The Washington Post. Too bad it is only for removing a picture of a naked black men from Obama's article. Heh. -- Bobblehead (rants) 04:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks everyone! Just doin' my part to make you all look good.... Tvoz | talk 23:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I just heard the NPR interview. You did a great job representing the project, and explaining Wikipedia's arcane processes to a lay audience. I'm surprised that they didn't go into the question of your personal views about the candidates — but now you've got a reliable source saying that your edits are "not for political purposes, but just to do the right thing". Do you suppose this will change Andy's mind? ;^) — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
It was the most Wikipedia-friendly news coverage that the 2008 presidential candidate articles have seen yet, and you represented the project really well. Thank you! -- HailFire ( talk) 04:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Greetings from a stranger lucky to hear you today. Beautiful job, you did Wikipedia proud. - Susanlesch ( talk) 05:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Link to CNN quoting me about Gingrich campaign's Wikipedia editing
You have some more media mentions to add to the top of your userpage. -- Michaeldsuarez ( talk) 22:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
To start a new thread, please click here.
Thank you, T. Voz., .... for all the (uncompensated!) time you put into making Wikipedia the incredibly useful resource that it is. .... Deacon John. DeaconJohnFairfax ( talk) 04:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
...that you're awake at this hour! Hmmm, guess I'll take a listen to your NPR interview... Regards, ProhibitOnions (T) 09:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I canz notz believzing it!!11111!111!!one1!11!11eleven11!!1!!11111
Now I know why you've such a POV about you that nobody can figure out ;-D
Happy editing none the less. Digital Ninja 21:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
If there are any other editors on Wikipedia that can give advice as Tvoz does, about turbulent subjects in a such a well-reasoned, intelligent, and clear way, I would like to know who they are. They (if there are more) should form The Good Club, and charge admission for their worthy advice. Respect is due. :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 21:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Kirk, ok I guess. But Ringo??? Tvoz/ talk 05:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
He is one of Rock and Roll's greatest drummers and is overlooked in part because he devoted himself to building a rhythmic platform that let Paul and John shine, and always put professional competence over flash (Max Weinberg of the E-Street Band is similar in this) I think every Beatle was a great musician, but it was Ringo that made then "th Beatles" It is even in the name of the band. You know, who sets "the beat?" Slrubenstein | Talk 15:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, nothing I wrote was meant to in any way diminish the greatness of one of rock's greatest lead guitarist, and arguable rock's best rhythm guitarist and best bass guitarist. But if one has to pick a favorite, it is still Ringo, and I was just explaining why.
Now, "The Inner Light" is in my opinion an absolute work of art, one of the finest hours ever broadcast on television and up there with many great films. For what it is worth, I think "Tapestry," "Parallels," "Cause and Effect," "Yesterday's Enterprise," "I, Borg," and "The Most Toys" are better than any original ST show (yes, with the probable exception of "City on the Edge of Forever," and "The Naked Time" a close second). I mean it, I think those episodes demonstrate just how great science fiction, and television, can be. But that just means Picard was given a better episode than Kirk. I still favor Kirk as captain. While I like Patrick Stewart a great deal, I frankly share Q's general view of Picard as pompous and humorlessly pretentious (Picard's brother's view of him too, as I recall). I must admit too that for a variety of reasons I do not like the prime directive, at least as it is often employed in TNG, and thus dislike Piccard when he is (as he often is) an especially pretentious mouthpiece for the prime directive. Kirk loved his ship and his crew but knew how to have fun and how to bend the rules when necessary. Piccard learned valuable lessons in "The Inner Light" and "Tapestry" and if he always displayed what he learned from those experiences I might like him a lot more. There are lots of things I like about TNG. It had a longer run and for this and other reasons more truly great episodes. But sorry, in my book, there is no substitute for Kirk, not by a long shot, and I would go even a little further and say no relationship in TNG came close to the complexity and depth of the many things that bound Kirk, Spock, and McCoy together.
I think Ochs and Dylan are a little more apples and oranges, but if you must ask (I must, I must!), then, Dylan (caveat: Ochs was better specifically at protest songs). Slrubenstein | Talk 22:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah - well, on song-writing, I would just say Ringo is not even in the running (although he contributed some great lines). He is my favorite Beatle, but certainly not my favorite song-writer, by any means. As for his post-Beatle career, I can't honestly answer your question, it is something i read somewhere. But it was based on either record sales or highest rank in the charts. The stats may have changed since I last checked which was at least ten years ago. Lennon's "Imagine" became an anthem for a generation but when it was first released it actually didn't chart well. Personally, Double Fantasy is the only post-Baetles Lennon work I really like, but thinking about all that makes me very sad... I am glad we are close on TNG episodes - if only I could get DVDs of just those episodes ...
Slrubenstein |
Talk 23:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
...and, really, BeeGees? And not Peter Frampton? Slrubenstein | Talk 23:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've posed a couple questions to two of your posts in the article talk page. I'm was hoping you might find a moment to answer them (in the talk page). Thanks. Jbarta ( talk) 23:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Why do you indent so much when you post?
Jbarta ( talk) 01:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Have stumbled across comments you've left for various persons and just want to say thank you for your incredible patience and generosity of time and spirit in helping folks. I aspire to be more like you as an editor. Kmzundel ( talk) 01:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Pausing to remember Jeffrey Miller, 20; Allison Krause, 19; William Knox Schroeder, 19; and Sandra Scheuer, 20 - four unarmed students who were shot dead by American soldiers on an Ohio college campus. I was hundreds of miles away on another college campus that terrible May day... and it could have been me. Tvoz/ talk 03:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Forty-three years later, remembering
Jeff,
Allison,
Sandy, and
Bill - four unarmed American students
shot dead by American soldiers on an American college campus. It could have been me.
Tvoz/
talk 02:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
I was 19, too, that day. But I just celebrated my 50th high school reunion this past weekend. They never had the chance to live their lives. No justice. Tvoz/ talk 04:54, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
48 years later, we remember. Four lives cut way too short, by American soldiers on an American college campus. No justice. Tvoz/ talk 00:17, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
It's been 50 years now. Fifty years. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I did not know any of them - I was in New York City on a different college campus. But as I've said too many times over these past 50 years, I knew it could have been me. They never had a chance at a full life. They'd be 70 years old this year - perhaps parents, grandparents - but they were cut down and there was never any justice. I remember Jeff, Allison, Bill, and Sandy, and Dean and the others who were wounded physically and psychically that day. Never forget. Tvoz/ talk 03:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Nobody's commented here, but I guess it's okay. Thank you so much for keeping this light shining in honor of four people who were just going about their business on a college campus. Others, the people who allowed the guard - apparently some of them quite inexperienced and skittish on all levels of decision-making - to carry live loaded rifles probably should be given the blame, or at least one of those "What were you thinking!" reverse-awards. But yes, thank you. Feel free to remove this post or move it somewhere in case you are purposely keeping this space free of comment. A nice light kept on in honor of four martyrs from the era. Randy Kryn 20:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
"My son saw Macca at Shea/CitiField on Friday, and he'd probably say "band", but he doesn't get a vote because he took his girlfriend to the concert instead of his mother."
I think it's time to start spending his inheritance. There again, it's probably the same effect we had on our parents. My sympathies. :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 23:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey there stranger! Great to hear from you again --- I'm devoting more and more time to Wikipedia as of late. Will be graduating next semester and have already gotten a head start on my masters. You're advice from over 3 years ago went farther than you will ever know!-- rocketrye12 talk/ contribs 18:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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Brilliant! :) -- andreasegde ( talk) 10:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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John Lennon (1940–1980) was an English musician and singer-songwriter who achieved worldwide fame as one of the founding members of The Beatles. Lennon and Paul McCartney formed one of the most successful songwriting partnerships of the 20th century. Born and raised in Liverpool, Lennon's first band, The Quarrymen, evolved into The Beatles in 1960. As the group began to undergo the disintegration that led to their break-up at the end of that decade, Lennon launched a solo career that would span the next, punctuated by critically acclaimed albums, including John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band and Imagine, and iconic songs such as " Give Peace a Chance" and " Imagine". Lennon revealed a rebellious nature and acerbic wit, and he became controversial through his work as a peace activist. He moved to New York City in 1971, where his criticism of the Vietnam War resulted in a lengthy attempt by Richard Nixon's administration to deport him. His songs were adapted as anthems by the anti-war movement. He took a sabbatical from the music business in 1975 to devote time to his family but reemerged in 1980 with a comeback album, Double Fantasy, but was murdered three weeks after its release. ( more...)
The Half Barnstar | ||
For your efforts in collaborating with User:Utahredrock (who holds the other half of this barnstar), to bring Mark E. Kelly up to GA status. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:58, 5 March 2011 (UTC) |
Ta very much, like, Tvoz. D'ya wanna a chip butty an' a cuppa tea? It's on me... :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 20:49, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
The end of the video (it's at the bottom of the page) might make you laugh.-- andreasegde ( talk) 09:58, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to say I respect your work and point out my comment at the talk page about why I instated my own version. I invite your comments there. Best, Abrazame ( talk) 17:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
or what? 74.111.13.100 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC).
moved and responded on Talk: F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre
Hi Tvoz, I'm a French journalist and I'm writing an article about the inside debate between Wikipedia contributors about the Dominique Strauss-Kahn page. You might not notice but there's a great difference of treatment between the French WP and the English one. I would like to ask you a few question about that if you can give me a little bit of your time today. Here you can contact me : guaranaseven@hotmail.com
Thank you. Regards, Antoine
-- Guaranaseven ( talk) 14:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Keep it up, Tvoz, and soon you'll be notable enough for an article of your own. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 18:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
The problem is that some people follow the rules too closely. Technically, an article shouldn't be in a category unless it is clear from the article. ("It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories.") The article doesn't say Ochs was a pacifist. I'll look for a source that says so explicitly. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 19:05, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Care to help out editing this article? I feel you would be great at it. I'm planning on adding some information about the publicity and aftermath, and that's probably it. Flyer22 ( talk) 14:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
An a single purpose IP user apparently is starting an edit war about the Obama quote about his mother's difficulty getting health care because of "pre-existing conditions". Won't listen to reason; won't look at Janey Scott book. Can you help? You're better at this than me. Thx Bellagio99 ( talk) 01:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't, for example, Christian Bale was born in Wales but is not Welsh, same with Tommy Cooper, The Edge was born in England but is not English, Dave Snowden was born in England but is not English. It goes on. Why? Because they simply arne't. -- Τασουλα (Almira) ( talk) 22:48, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
01:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
You et alia have destroyed my faith in the ability of wikipedia editors to listen to, let alone recognize, extremely simple self-evident facts about the observable universe. I'm a scientist by trade and have believed for some time that Wikipedia might be that last bastion of hope for conserving the sanity of philosophical realism in popular culture. Today I am proven wrong. It's unfortunate that I can't delete my WP account, otherwise I would. Instead, I think I'll rename it, vanish, and never edit on WP again. This experience was, literally, that bad. Congratulations. (and, no, I doubt he could've read a paragraph of Joyce) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quophnix ( talk • contribs) 21:46, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
There is a discussion occuring here involving debate about whether or not the Beatles were "active" during 1994-1996. Your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc ( talk) 22:50, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
FYI, there is a vote taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc ( talk) 03:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I saw your name in the archived discussion at Sopranos talk page. I would like to get your feedback there on a disagreement between myself and another editor. Thanks. -Anon98 98.92.183.93 ( talk) 09:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello! As you've probably realized, MediaWiki's flawed diff system made it appear as though the changes were significantly more extensive than they actually were (largely because I added a line break, I think).
The main purpose of my edit was to undo a change made yesterday (the insertion of the article's title in bold, which isn't MoS-compliant in this context).
Sorry about (and thanks for correcting) the "January" typo; I don't know how that slipped past me. :) —
David Levy 08:52, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
I happened to be swinging by another article and happened to notice some vandalism, then figured I'd check on the watchlist. I see not much has changed since I ladt stopped by the Obama article. Still the same "He's not A-A!" and "OMG!! Why aren't all the criticisms of him covered in detail!!". As for the vandal.. Maybe try the escalating vandalism tags? Even then it is going to be hard to get the ban hammer dropped because he only does it once every couple of days.-- Bobblehead (rants) 23:56, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello Tvoz, since your reply on Callista Gingrich's discussion page, vandalism has indeed continued to be a problem, and some is still there now. Would you please look again and consider adding back the semi-protection? Joe DeSantis Communications Director, Gingrich 2012 ( talk) 03:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I shared your concern recently at the above article along with other editors. Jimbo seems to be Ok with it See User:Joes talk page...so end of story....or is it? Check at campaign article history since some discussion was removed. Stay in touch. ``` Buster Seven Talk 07:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/06/gingrich-spokesman-defends-wikipedia-edits/
You have some more media mentions to add to the top of your userpage. -- Michaeldsuarez ( talk) 22:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
All of a sudden Ive become a bother. But, an important project WP:WEaPOn (about Paid Operatives) I have initiated is up for speedy. Can you assist? I want to play by the rules but they seem stacked against an honest effort to record a history of an event as it happens. Urgent. Any comment you might offer would be greatly appreciated. TY. ``` Buster Seven Talk 06:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Cents for Sense | ||
Sometimes two cents is worth alot more than it seems. Your comments about paid editing broaden the base for communication and discussion and widen the circle of ideas. Thanks for giving yours and providing some personal insight at various WP locations. ``` Buster Seven Talk 14:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
There is a discussion taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc ( talk) 04:18, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
At the risk of being accussed of canvassing, I know you may be interested in a current request for comment regarding the COI guideline and this noticeboard: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/COI. ``` Buster Seven Talk 04:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Jose Antonio Vargas#Immigration status. RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 02:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, just wondering if our guidelines remain the same. I ran into Metric by accident. See the references at the bottom of the article- the use of You Tube video music. I know we can use videos when they are interviews or documentaries, but this is different. What do you think? -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 21:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Please help a newb get it right. Sumthin changed when I wasn't lookin..... how references are done
In Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
Both sentences were flagged as needing citations. I found a source for each. The second sentence was from an article in the Orlando Sentinel; a person or bot corrected/reformatted my input to the changed format.
The first sentence was from a, to my knowledge, previously uncited source: http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation_world/20120321_ap_wasflashooteravigilanteorgoodneighbor.html?c=r
When I inserted that citation in my usual way, it created a new reference "1" that didn't automatically create a footnote down in References. The new/current reference format is much cleaner but... How do I put the new source into the existing references in proper format/style?
If it were still the weekend, I'd have time to research, maybe find the answer myself, but I'm about to get busy with two 12-hour day shifts and then two 10-hour swings on Wed and Thur (and then get a 3-day weekend).
Thanks,
DocTree ( talk) 12:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey there Tvoz! I just ran across your response on Talk:Barack Obama and I don't think it was as civil as it could have been. I haven't examined the archives, so maybe the IP's point had been brought up many times before, and you were getting tired of it, but I just think you could have phrased things better. One of the things that makes Wikipedia great is that most of the time everyone treats each other with respect and good faith and no one gets driven away. Let's strive to keep it that way please! Best, Jesse V. ( talk) 02:36, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Jesse - thanks for your note. I'm sure I could have phrased all comments I make better - that's true for anyone - but let's take another look at the comment I was responding to, line by line:
No I do not "own" the article, but if I could look at the histories of some people then I bet I'd see strong evidence that you think you do.
I just read the "professor" article on the US, and they show lecturers as being distinct from professors. They also make clear the distinction between capital letter "Professor" and the lower-case informal "professor" and in this case the latter applies to Obama, but the former is the one actually used in the article, which is more evidence of intentional lying to promote Obama.
I assume this is because the professor article states that a real professor has more prestige than a mere lecturer. It seems like you aren't actually reading my arguments and your mind was made up before I even posted so I'm not sure why I'm bothering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.196.64 (talk) 16:26, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
And the IPs earlier points in the thread include these phrases:
Are these comments ok with you? Respectful? You see, yes, this minute rightwing talking point has been raised many times before and it is utterly without merit, raised almost as a tic, so regular editors are tired of it. You'll note that a few other editors responded with similar annoyance to mine. But in fact this IP SPA did not ask a reasoned, balanced, respectful question. Instead he cast aspersions on the people who work quite hard at this article, trying to keep it current, fair, and well-written as befits a Featured Article about an important individual. He accused us as a group of being blatantly dishonest, deliberately deceptive, intentionally misleading. WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL are foundational to Wikipedia, and I believe in them. But they are a two-way street, and there is nothing in AGF or CIVIL that requires us to assume good faith or be civil to someone who is being uncivil and attacking us. We are not guided by "turn the other cheek" - we 're supposed to try to work together in a hospitable manner and foster mutual respect. I appreciate and share your concern about keeping Wikipedia great, but I part company with you on this one, and am not hesitant to say that I hope this exchange has driven him away. We don't need to encourage editors who come on and just attack. It's not as bad as vandalism, but it is detrimental to the project as it drains energy and distracts from the important work we need to be doing.
But, sincerely, thanks for the note - I hope my response opens your eyes a bit to the reality I've seen here over the years that some people are here to make trouble and in my view are not entitled to the usual standards. Tvoz/ talk 04:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent edits on the Shooting of Trayvon Martin article - they are sensible and much appreciated. – Teammm Let's Talk! :) 06:20, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm logging off for now; the lead is a mess and no one bothers to fix clear issues of undue weight and needless political framing even when we discuss it on the talk page. I'll leave the twitter one up for tonight; but its a clear WP:UNDUE and it keeps ballooning in size every day. Seriously, it has a reference with Twitter's rules for privacy. When will the line be drawn? I work hard on it, but I'll comment your post on the talk page before I go. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 06:16, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
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Obviously, I disagree. What relevant reason would there be to call a 17 year old male a "boy", other than to create a biased opinion against the "man" Zimmerman. Isaidnoway ( talk) 02:55, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Isaidnoway, you clearly have no basis to this argument because Trayvon was a boy, he had just turned 17 a few weeks before he was killed. He was not an adult, he was a minor. I don't see one logical argument that a reasonable person would use to claim that calling a minor a boy is vandalism or derogatory. The fact that Trayvon was unarmed is one of the basic facts in the shooting incident, so I don't know where you're coming from with that as well. I hope this is an April Fools joke. – Teammm Let's Talk! :) 16:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Court Holds Calling Black Men "boy" is racially offensive.
NYPD Sergeant Accused of Calling Officer a Racial Slur
What is the worse word you can call an African-American?
Martin Luther King Jr. once told me
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Very well put and explained, Avanu. You hit the nail squarely on the head. Rollo V. Tomasi ( talk) 21:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for engaging in this discussion with me. It certainly has been an eye-opener for me. You are right, MLK was an extraordinary man and another fave of mine is Our lives begin to end, the day we become silent about things that matter. This is my final post too, as I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue this debate either as it doesn't require your belief for it to be true as to what my POV was about this subject.-- Isaidnoway ( talk) 01:01, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for making sure the Trayvon Martin case had sufficient oversight and neutrality. I greatly appreciate your input. HectorMoffet ( talk) 12:55, 3 April 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks for the backup/sanity check. I realize people aren't going to agree on things all the time, especially in such a charged topic like this, but I really wasn't expecting as big of a blow up for saying "we don't all agree". Gaijin42 ( talk) 21:03, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I have to apologize for adding the marijuana and suspension material without realizing there was an editing note. I didn't see it at the time I added the material. I'm still new and learning the ropes. From now on, I will make sure to look for such notations. No hard feelings? Rollo V. Tomasi ( talk) 02:08, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
In addition, could you please take a look at the Shooting of Trayvon Martin talk page and the latest comment from "Doc of Soc": "IMO it has always been reasonable to believe that Zimmerman was bound and determined to get himself a "F'ing Coon". Total Bias acknowledged. I feel better now. Back to trying to be fair and balanced. Namaste — DocOfSoc • Talk • 00:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)" Can a comment like that be made and allowed to stay on an article's talk page? Aren't the rules for biographies of living persons the same on the talk pages for biographies of living persons? I still can't believe he said what he did and no one else has done anything about it. Thank you for your help. Rollo V. Tomasi ( talk) 02:11, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words and understanding. Rollo V. Tomasi ( talk) 02:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Not actually trying to make the argument, since I have given up, but here is my logic for why the Martin bio stuff is relevant (And zimmermans). I think the logic is very parallel between the two people.
You brought up the "zimmerman didnt know" point above, and my logic in no way requires Zimmerman to know the history. Martin may have objectively been acting in some way that was actually suspicious that Zimmerman observed. (Please be clear, I am not accusing Martin of doing anything, just saying that Zimmerman's accusation that he was is not implausible, in part because he has a history of such actions)
If someone says they saw lindsay lohan drunk or high, we probably believe them, based on past experience, even if that particular person has no idea who lindsay lohan is, or her history (foreigner who saw her without recognizing?). If someone makes the same accusation about someone with a known "good reputation", we do not believe them. Therefore our knowledge of the past is relevant, even if the observer did not have such knowledge.
I realize this entire chain of logic is synth/or, and I was not trying to include this chain in the article, but the chain is used to explain why I think the information is relevant to the article. Ultimately every piece of information must be determined to be relevant by some level of synth/or as we are making choices of what to include and exclude out of the superset of information that is included in the media.
Anyway, I hope that explains what my argument was. Gaijin42 ( talk) 03:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
YES I know I have to do it here. I will, promise. Real Soon Now. But I don't want any bots botting around here, so don't any Good Samaritan add one. Thank you all, and sorry for the time it must take to load.... Tvoz/ talk 04:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Tvoz, I wanted to thank you for kind words towards me :). I'm sorry I got all huffy about deletion possibilities, and I'm so glad you helped me. :) This is what Wikipedia is about. I just want to alert you-- the Chief Bill Lee and the Rep. Bobby Rush images are being disputed under copyright. There seems to me something fundamentally immorally about public images being deleted because of "copyright claims". How can footage of a public body in a public chamber be considered under "copyright"? How can an official, publicly distributed portrait of a city police chief be under "copyright".
This is absurd. I believe both are public domain images since they are public records of democratic processes (rather than artistic works). Surely the people of the United States have the right to use images from the US House of Reps.
Any help greatly appreciated. I don't know the wikibureaucracy, but know that if we lose images of the chief and the rep, our article is less educational and less neutral. Help me Tvoz, you're my only hope. :) -- HectorMoffet ( talk) 08:39, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) The copyright of the photos is more complicated. I thikn the "Bobby" photo is from c-span, in which case it is actually copyrighted. the image was not produced or published by the govt, but by a private entity. cspan copyright policy. Regarding the "headshots", we also do not know that those were not taken professionally, many companies/organizations let high ranking people use their own photos for publicity type photos, and the photos in question are clearly not "stand against the wall for your security pass" photos. Im not saying they must be deleted, I am ok with them staying. But it is not the only possible conclusion. Gaijin42 ( talk) 14:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I posted an explanation about my removal of the detective bit and why I think it is a Verifiability problem, among others. If, for sake of form, you would like me to revert my revert, I will do so, but I would like additional sourcing to be added since it is very thin on supporting information at the moment. -- Avanu ( talk) 04:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Please take a look at some of my edits and stances. I am neutral and not pro-Zimmerman.
Martin
Zimmerman
Other
Times accused of POV: MANY
Notice how I take both Martin and Zimmerman issues even if they are unpopular? Why would I argue to keep off negative attacks Martin if I was pro Zimmerman? Why would I argue to keep off negative Zimmerman attacks if I was pro Martin? What about the other issues unrelated to them? I've acted with the flow of info, and been attacked for my stances on both sides. Yet as a whole, my stance and edits are neutral and careful. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 05:59, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Did you remove this source by mistake? I added it to the end of the section.
Florida Special Prosecutor
On April 11, Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, the special prosecutor, announced that George Zimmerman had been charged with second-degree murder. In Florida, that charge carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment and a minimum sentence of 25 years. She reported that Zimmerman had turned himself in to law enforcement and was arrested and placed in custody.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/zimmerman.charges.pdf
Hi Tvoz, I added the Affidavit of Probable Cause in the External Links section if you want to look at it. –
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/89120165/Zimmerman-Probable-Cause-Document-2
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Seriously? Ok. Tvoz/ talk 07:40, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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The jury is almost out.-- andreasegde ( talk) 16:02, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
The mediators have come up with a new idea, which seems good. It's under "Episode IV: A New Poll", and "Your thoughts".-- andreasegde ( talk) 10:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Could you look at this proposal and make a comment? I know it doesn't allow for arguments for/against, but it is as "simple as possible". Ta, -- andreasegde ( talk) 17:06, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
I have been "asked" to leave the mediation, which is what I expected at some point; even a blind man would agree. Apparently, the last straw was that one is not allowed to complain about WP:Wikihounding. Ho-hum... :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 11:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Looks like you're doing good work on the article. I generally don't have a sustained interest in any particular topic, so if you run into problems with that article and need another opinion, don't hesitate to drop me a line, since I probably won't be paying attention otherwise. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:25, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
On Ryan's voting record, there's also this aptly titled piece from Politico: "Paul Ryan’s voting record: Big-spending conservatism". Of course, Ryan voted for pretty much every big-government budget-buster that crossed his desk. Right up until... I dunno, let's say January 20, 2009, when he suddenly became deficit-hawk crusader. But that reality will probably prove unpalatable, and unsayable, in his article, no matter how many reliable sources attest to it. MastCell Talk 02:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
So I was just reading and lightly editing United States presidential election, 2012 and I realized the article doesn't even have as much as a full sentence on Paul Ryan yet. That's surprising enough, but what's even more surprising is that the article doesn't include information on anything that has happened since Romney won the Texas primary in May. I know that summer is generally the dead season for presidential politics as both parties gear up for the fall, but surely something more can be added. Do you have any suggestions on how best to go about improving that article? NW ( Talk) 02:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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Since the cover of his own book says he was born in Kenya, I have a verifiable source, his own words.
So this is not vandalism. You can shut off my editing privileges, but it doesn't change the fact that his own words incriminate him.
I will just get some other friends to edit it for me.
Take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.6.3.90 ( talk) 17:08, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
That is most certainly what I was referring to.
How convenient that the president's publicist said it's a mistake NOW. Why didn't the president catch the mistake YEARS ago? I think Tvoz is just a liberal that doensn't like that there are people like me out here that see the president for what he is, a fraud and a liar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.6.3.90 ( talk) 16:48, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Accepted. the nerve was partially pre-struck by tvoz above - I was trying to be helpful and identify what was being discussed (so that it could correctly be refuted (vs just the normal platitudes)). I felt like tvoz didnt give me WP:AGF and that I was being lumped in as a birther. so I was perhaps oversensitive to your comment.
The nerve is also a result of the tendancy by many to ignore real arguments against Obama and his policies, and accuse any disagreement as being race based. Prejudice and Racism are real. Accusing everyone of it willy-nilly cheapens the accusation, and makes the true instances of it harder to deal with.
As I said to the the IP above, I have lots of reasons I don't like Obama, but neither the legitimacy of the election, nor his race are among them. As an aside, I read that article you posted for DrMies. While certainly the issues discussed are real, I think they are blamed for more than they deserve - there are vocal minorities on all issues and sides that can be used as a distraction and scape goat. I also thought the author was somewhat disengenious in his claims that Obama had avoided race. Although I was dissapointed that he won, I was certainly hoping that his tenure could serve as a milestone/opportunity for racial healing. instead I think he has played the race card every time it would be advantageous for him (and in many times he didn't need to be involved at all, like the "beer summit" incident) - I can't really blame him for that, all politicians use whatever tricks they can - but it does make "Hope" a lot more difficult to come up with. (and to be fair, it is undeniable that race issues have come back at him the other way (but as stated, direty tricks are to be expected in all directions), but I don't think it can be honestly claimed he avoided race as asserted in the article).
@Buster7, if your intent is to call me prejudiced, then I think you need to ponder if you are part of the solution, or part of the precipitate. Gaijin42 ( talk) 19:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I think the Atlantic article did a nice job of outlining the way this played out in the Trayvon Martin case - it was really Obama's statement of sympathy that triggered the huge backlash of vitriol from the right - most of which, let's remember, was aimed at a teenager shot dead while walking home from the store with snacks. The message is simple - Obama can't address any racially tinged issue, unless he wants to immediately and irretrievably polarize it. That's not exactly fertile ground for "racial healing" - it's more conducive to simply pretending that racial issues don't exist or magically disappeared on January 20, 2009.
About the demise of "Hope", well, I guess it depends on your viewpoint. I think a case could be made that Obama tried hard to govern in a bipartisan manner - to the extreme of jettisoning the eternal progressive goal of single-payer healthcare in favor of a conservative-authored free-market healthcare reform package. But there was clearly a decision on the GOP's part, from the moment of Obama's election, to oppose him tooth and nail on everything. The last 4 years don't make sense in any other context - certainly the GOP abandoned a lot of its perennial policy positions the second Obama made a move to adopt them. It seems obvious that partisanship comes first, and public policy is just a tool to bludgeon the other guy with. I mean, how cynical is it to see things like the DREAM Act or the individual mandate - conservative ideas - being anathemized by the party that originated them, solely because Obama took a shine to them? But anyway... I'm monopolizing Tvoz's talk page and I should stop. MastCell Talk 19:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
You're always welcome here, MastCell. I'm not going to respond to everything, but I will say to the earlier comments by the IP that he is absolutely correct that I don't like that there are people out there who ignore the truth, perpetrate lies, deliberately distort facts, and otherwise do anything they can to undermine the legitimacy of Obama's presidency - and I agree that it is because he is black. There are many people in this country who are horrified that we elected a black president, and all they can do is seize on discredited nonsense about his birthplace, which is irrelevant anyway because his mother was a US citizen. But the point remains that if the IP was referring to this pamphlet he surely didn't say so in his edits, or anywhere else, and instead pretended that a Kenyan birth was a fact and slipped it into a very peripheral article without comment or source. That is troublemaking. Gaijin, I said that you were generously giving him some justification - explaining what you thought he was talking about - not that you signed on to it or agreed with it, and that I did not think that he deserved your retroactive explanation of what he did. I was not lumping you in with birthers. Also, fyi, the pamphlet stuff is already in the Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories article - I clarified it yesterday but it was there already - and that article on idiotic fringe garbage is the only place this belongs.
As for Bush v Gore, I don't want to go over this again either, except to say that the fact is that the Florida Supreme Court ordered a statewide recount, and the US Supreme Court stopped it, stepping on their customary practice of respecting states' rights. The count should have been allowed to go forward, statewide as the Florida Supreme Court ordered, and the chips would have fallen where they fell. Instead, the election was decided by one person's vote and this cast a permanent cloud over the end result. In other words, the US Supreme Court did not have to accept the case at all, thus allowing the Florida Supreme Court ruling to stand and no question of which counties should be recounted would have arisen. If Bush won that way, it would at least have not been illegitimate.
Finally, back to the birthers - now Romney is using this racist crap as a crowd-pleaser, and his campaign's attempt to pretend that he was only talking about his own birthplace is offensive. No one asked to see his birth certificate? His presidential-candidate-father, born in Mexico, would turn over in his grave at this new low. Tvoz/ talk 20:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
One answer, perhaps not surprisingly, is that talk of welfare is a powerful trigger for racial resentment. A political scientist (quoted in the article) did some interesting research demonstrating that the ads had little bearing on policy attitudes or other political questions, but were very powerful primers of racial resentment.
Klein put it this way: " Romney’s welfare ads are not racist. But the evidence suggests that they work particularly well if the viewer is racist, or at least racially resentful. And these are the ads that are working so unexpectedly well that welfare is now the spine of Romney’s 2012 on-air message in the battleground states." Anyhow, I thought it dovetailed with this discussion thread nicely. MastCell Talk 20:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey there, Tvoz - I dropped by to leave you a very brief note... and since it's been a while, I thought I'd take a really quick glance at your talk page to see what you've been up to. Hah! Should have known better!! Of course, I ended up immersed in reading some good-size chunks. The craziness never ends, does it?!? <shakes head> As you know, I've mostly stayed clear of really contentious articles - and CFD - for the last couple of years; there's just too much to deal with in real life to involve myself in protracted, stomach-churning disputes. So I have to say, I'm in awe of your stamina, girl - don't know how you do it!! :) You seem to be in the middle of everything (loosely speaking) - from the major political bios to Trayvon Martin to... what else, The Beatles. Not to mention becoming a minor media star in your own right. LOL! One last thing before I get to the item that brought me here in the first place: I enjoyed the hell out of your reply to the accusation that you had been less than civil in your response to a particularly irksome editor. My sentiments exactly!!
Okay, here we go: I thought you might like to put in your 2 cents regarding this CFD that I spotted purely by accident. (I've got a completely unrelated CFD on the same page.) I know we don't see eye to eye on this question, but who cares?? Regards, Cgingold ( talk) 14:39, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I take offense to your tactics, which seem to be, tell the lie over an over again without ever providing any proof and people will eventually believe it. If I have been pushing this for years as you have repeatedly claimed, then please address these simple questions: 1) when did I make my very first talk comment in this regard 2) when was the very first talk thread I ever opened on it? ~ GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 22:01, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Tvoz. Sorry, but would you mind removing the notifications you posted to non-Beatles-related band talk pages about the Beatles RfC? I can appreciate that you would like the poll to be seen by as many editors as possible, but as Feezo said here, there was no consensus for notifications on other band talk pages, and there were legitimate concerns with putting them there. It's also not just one editor who thinks this, as you can see from Qwyrxian's post here. Sorry to ask you to do this, but if you could self-revert it would be really helpful. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ( have a chat) 14:55, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Hello. You have a new message at Gareth Griffith-Jones's talk page.
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DonnaHalper ( talk) 03:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC) We seem to share some similar research interests. I have spent many years in media; and anyone who likes McLuhan is okay by me! (I'm a Neil Postman fan, myself.) Again, my apologies on the Barry Soetoro question. Let me know if there's any entries I can help you with-- I'm normally pretty good at fact-checking, or so I've been told!
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... here since it's increasingly off-topic on [Tt]he Beatles poll. :-)
I must admit I agree with some others about the impropriety of the "testosterone" bit (even though it was witty). There is no question that Wikipedia could use (a lot) more women editing, but blaming the existence (or nature) of editing disputes on the putative nature of men is... well, I find it offensive. Honestly, this is no better than if someone claimed that disputes are worse when women are involved in it because they are too emotional for what would otherwise be a rational discussion!
Yes, I know that's the current MWF party line; it doesn't make it any less wrong or offensive. That kind of bullshit faux-differences between the sexes that "everyone knows" and propagates does much more against women participating online than most of the earnest sexism few people take seriously nowadays. Sexism will go away when people stop even caring about gender; not by replacing one set of idiotic stereotypes with a different one. Nothing about disputes on Wikipedia requires having a vagina or penis. — Coren (talk) 14:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
[Tvoz] says disputes have become more frequent over the years. She blames "an overabundance of testosterone running around the pages."
I repeat, imagine if I had said this dispute about the Beatles would have been settled several years ago if it weren't for so many women editing Beatles articles. Or that estrogen is well-known to cause Wikipedia editors to act snarky, dishonest, vindictive and uncompromising. I predict that I would be asked/forced to redact immediately. Tvoz, your comment was rude and sexist, plain and simple. I am offended, disappointed and surprised that you would stoop so low for a scapegoat, and in a major national publication! Question. - Do you think your comment will help bring female editors to Wikipedia, or will it help scare them off? What was that about driving editors away? Besides, this dispute obviously crosses genders, as evidenced by your significant leadership involvement in it going back more than 4 years.
← Not for the first time, Gabe, you have totally misunderstood and/or distorted what I said. My reply at the poll and to Coren above spells out what I was talking about (which was not about this specific mediation) and your nasty comment here pretty much proves my point. Nowhere did I say anything about anyone or any group even remotely similar to your strawman example ("imagine if I had said ... that estrogen is well-known to cause Wikipedia editors to act snarky, dishonest, vindictive and uncompromising.") - you give your own biases away, and argue in a personally insulting way. Since you can't engage in a civil conversation, please go play somewhere else - I had about enough of your mode of discourse at the poll. Tvoz/ talk 00:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Really? "And the people in the minority [...] are in the better position to recognize and identify it than those in the majority". Perhaps. But it just so happens that I am "in the minority" as well: as a gay man I am well aware of societal systemic oppression of minorities (and – in the West – of one of a considerably more vicious and violent nature). Would a comment that "straight men (which form the vast majority of Wikipedians) are the cause of much of the disputes because win, or out-shout, bully, all opponents to prove their masculinity" be any better?
I do understand where you're coming from, but you're simply substituting one prejudice for another. Women are no less apt to bully, intimidate and browbeat than men in a dispute – even if our cultural mores tend to have created different modalities for expressing them. The volatility and habitual idiocy of disputes on Wikipedia is endemic to the medium; facilitated as it is by distance, anonymity, and detachment. Pretending that the cause is "male" in origin (even if you qualify it with "adolescent" – last I checked women had puberty too) is simple, unadulterated sexism. No better than the morons who claim women have no place in gaming "because they aren't driven enough", or that they have no place in hard science because "they don't have the analytical capabilities". — Coren (talk) 02:14, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
←I wrote this without seeing andreasegde's last, so it's not a reply to it. I didn't think he was directing that previous comment at me, but I agree with him that the conversation does seem to be getting a bit repetitive. JBurlinson has it exactly right, that is indeed what I was trying to do, and thanks for getting it. I'm glad the reporter chose that quote, because it encapsulates my sense of what happens here and maybe gets people to look at it from a different perspective.
I'll give this one more try. Coren, it's not just the nature of the medium - in fact I see remarkably little of this type of behavior on Facebook. This is likely because of the nature of Wikipedia vs Facebook, where Facebook is a social-interaction site and Wikipedia a task-oriented place. Dispute resolution, what I am talking about, doesn't even come up on Facebook - their policies are not determined or even affected by what their users have to say, and surely not in some kind of quasi-democratic-like way as Wikipedia purports to be. My observation continues to be that the goal in disputes here for some people is to compromise and for others to win. The need to win - the status-seeking - territory marking - is what I've been talking about, and like it or not, it is widely associated with adolescent male behavior, hence, in a word, testosterone.
One last point - of course I agree that social shaping has a lot to do with this - my shorthand was not making a genetic, "they-can't-help-it" argument - but that doesn't refute what I'm seeing, and certainly does not refute it from an anthropological perspective: genetics play a large role in much of who we are, but society also shapes our attitudes and approaches to everything. I'm not going to get into a diatribe about the patriarchy here, but you can guess what my conclusions are regarding society's role in shaping the attitudes of boys (and girls), which I see on display here, not unlike a peacock display (another way of saying testosterone). Dispute resolution on Wikipedia has become a battleground for who can out-shout whom (volume, not quality), and this discussion ought to be happening all over the project, not isolated to my talk page just because my quote got it some attention. Tvoz/ talk 22:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Lysistrata (c. 400 BCE). There is nothing new under the sun. Get over it, haters. Viriditas ( talk) 01:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, Tvoz. This male editor, for one, agrees with what you said, and for having the courage to say it and stand by it. First Light ( talk) 02:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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No one deserves to be jumped on like that for simply speaking their mind, especially off-site. Don't let the drama hounds get you down. You do good work here, and you don't deserve to be discouraged from being as candid as you like about your own personal opinions. 66.87.4.63 ( talk) 02:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks - not much discourages me when it comes to speaking my mind, but I appreciate your comment and the star! Cheers Tvoz/ talk 07:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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A cookie! Thank you! Tvoz/ talk 06:19, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks so much andreasegde - love this one! Tvoz/ talk 06:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Seconded: surprised no-one's called you a misandrist yet. Ahh, the joys of privilege blindness... Sceptre ( talk) 14:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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And here it is, an argument about testosterone. Somebody will have to tell me if that's ironic or not.-- andreasegde ( talk) 10:10, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Thirded. Enough said. Raystorm (¿Sí?) 23:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
And tea to go with it. Perfect! Tvoz/ talk 06:20, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi! I didn't figure you were a technical guy but... after cruising Wikipedia for a half an hour I thought I would ask somebody, at random. Apparently IPs cannot create articles. Could you create a new article called "MC3 connector" for me? It is a predecessor of the MC4 connector that I have been messing with. The initial article could just include a redirect to MC4 connector as I have started a section there and it woud get teleported to the new article. I could post a picture, if I ever figure out how, also. If you are not the right way to go with this can you direct me to someplace? (not tell me were to go lol). Thanks 174.118.142.187 ( talk) 20:17, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, Buster - thanks! Same to you and yours. Tvoz/ talk 23:34, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Coming up on six year ago :-) you posed the question I reached tonight, namely, : "... is there a ... template to be used in warning IP addresses not to vandalize?" (... again, in my case). I'd found Template:uw-biog1 just a few days ago for one event here. Tonight I encountered another unrelated event and in addressing it realized the template wasn't quite right for IP #s (where one doesn't wish to accuse however politely any old or young person at the IP of vandalism; even the language in your question, looked at closely, doesn't distinguish well, if I may say so; "IP addresses" don't vandalize, users at IP addresses vandalize, and quite possibly only one or some of the users at the IP address). So I adapted the wording there (first draft, let's say) and then went back and retrofit my first one.
I could just jump to Template talk:Uw-biog1 to carry this further but, somehow I'm hazy on, I found my way here and like paying homage to the long-ago. Any thoughts? Just tell me to jump and I'll do so. (I've thought a Template:uw-biog1a, even the whole 1-5 series. ... Or maybe my zeal will fade.)
But I was warmed to see the "Skip to the TOC" template in use on your talk page. I discovered that template fairly recently and now apply it on talk pages when blocs of templates seem (to me) to thwart, potentially, interest in "talk"ing.
And I'd say you're maybe ready for another archive of the ol' Talk Page. Pretty voluminous for my (still dialup) download capac., it was. Will do so as the quid for being here if you say the word.
Pleasure to find this corner of the Wik. Cheers. Swliv ( talk) 02:08, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
You know, you really shouldn't mark page moves as "minor edits". Just saying. (hell, it's been a while but I didn't even realize that you could mark them as minor...)
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I don't get it. My input to the article / entry identifies Clinton's building, and you say (when you delete those details) "remove extraneous details that are way too much for bio; no need for publishing address -privacy issue" (bold is mine). But, your reference gives the building name (The Whitman) IN THE TITLE of the reference you substituted. Oh, you didn't look at the reference as you inserted it? What was so wrong with my references and so right with yours? Just asking.- Peter Ellis - Talk 11:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Long time no speak! Hope you're doing well. As you might've noticed, the lead photo on the Lennon page has been changed. Hopefully, the powers that be will let it stay. However, the uploader credited the photo to Yoko Ono, which is not correct. She may be the copyright holder, but the photo was taken by Iain MacMillan. The uploader named the page "John Lennon by Yoko Ono," and we need an administrator to "move" it to a page called "John Lennon by Iain MacMillan." I believe you're an administrator? Hotcop2 ( talk) 23:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC) The Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Jose Antonio Vargas". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the request page, the formal mediation policy, and the guide to formal mediation, please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate. Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by 10 April 2013. Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you. Cat Stevens talkWell, my comment today certainly proves my need for reading glasses and enough time to write a thoughtful response! However, make no mistake- you are an outstanding editor! Add the fact that you are willing to scrap with the best of them, and.. you are my heroine! I'm also willing to bet that you have a lot more fans than you know about. Of those who disagree with you, you still retain a grudging respect. I mean this in complete sincerity. Bask in the warmth of this knowledge. :) -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 00:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC) Hello, Tvoz. You have new messages at
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I still dabble now and then. Definitely thought of you during the last election cycle, but didn't have the stomach to get involved with the Mitt page again. It's certainly interesting to see how these controversies have a life cycle of their own. Glad you are a brave enough soul to put your real name out there. Cheers Notmyrealname ( talk) 21:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC) Hi there. You've been in discussions on my talk page regarding Qworty, so might wish to contribute ideas, etc., to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NaymanNoland (section: "Project Qworty"). If you haven't read today's Salon article addressing this disaster, it's here: http://www.salon.com/2013/05/17/revenge_ego_and_the_corruption_of_wikipedia/ NaymanNoland ( talk) 22:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tvoz, can you find an editor who knows IPA pronunciation (I think that's what it's called, anyway)? I recall having that issue with placing the pronunciation for Rory Gallagher over a year ago, and I can't recall now who that was... This time, it's for the biography of Michael Oher. His last name is pronounced "Oar". Thanks. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 05:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Can any of my faithful talk page readers help? I don't do IPA. Tvoz/ talk 14:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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Kevin, I was there too, having lived through it and protested it. I certainly did not mean to imply that the draft began in 1969 - that is of course completely incorrect. I will look again at what I said and perhaps I worded something poorly, but what I intended to say is that the =lottery= in 1969 was the first one since World War II, which I believe it was. As I am sure you know, the draft is not the lottery - the draft is something every male between certain ages was subject to, and the lottery was a particular event that happened in 1969 which assigned a number to each birthdate and that number determined the order in which you were called up. So people with low numbers were called up and people with high numbers were not. Bink is completely right that the protests were about the war itself, with the inequities of the draft being an important part of it. Earlier in the process there were exemptions - student, teacher, others - that were inherently unfair to groups of men who were disproportionally called up. But the war was the problem, and there was never any ambiguity about that. Had there been a voluntary army there still would have been protests against the war - but of course being sent to die in an illegal and immoral war through the draft made it even more horrendous. With no war, there were not protests about the draft - not that people liked it particularly. Being sent to peacetime Germany like Elvis who was drafted did not raise protests. The Vietnam war did. Tvoz/ talk 03:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Also, please take a look at Draft lottery (1969) which perhaps makes this clearer. That article needs work, but it is wholly consistent with the text that I reinstated in Kent State shootings, wording which actually has been in that article more or less since 2005. I did not write it, I reinstated it. What exactly do you find incorrect? Tvoz/ talk 05:44, 3 October 2013 (UTC) I've reworked the section in Kent State shootings to clarify the historical background, including the lottery. Tvoz/ talk 06:06, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Hi, I agree with the direction that your going, and the message is more clear. However, I think that the article on the shootings gets a bit off-point with too much explanation on the draft-lottery. The beauty of WP is that the reader can side-track to other articles. I attempted to streamline the paragraph this evening, hopefully without loosing your objective. Kevin Murray ( talk) 06:32, 8 October 2013 (UTC) LOL how are ya? Hotcop2 ( talk) 21:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
LOL The/the. I'm ok. Had the summer from hell. Even my dog died. We've developed a new problem re: Beatles. Every year, there's three or four new books on the boys. However, they say 'new" things, but they're either flat out wrong, made up, or rediculous embellishing. So altho they're 'sourced' I have to remove the stuff with huge explanations. Hotcop2 ( talk) 03:40, 10 October 2013 (UTC) Sorry. I just undid your edit to this stub article. I think the original text was accurate to the source cited, and your edit unnecessarily made the article ambiguous about the relationship. I don't want to edit war over this, so let's chat on the article's talk page, if you disagree. -- JohnPomeranz ( talk) 14:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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DonnaHalper ( talk) 17:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC) Thanks for your efforts; yes this sort of question really is difficult to resolve, and I hope I don't seem as if I am trying to beat a dead horse; but again, when I search even the sources you cited, they all do the same thing: they say "it got banned" but never say by whom or even when. I saw the Don Everly article and he says he was told that "they" banned it in Boston (the phrase "banned in Boston" had long since taken on a life of its own) but he doesn't say by whom. The Altschuler book, and by the way, Glenn is a wonderful researcher in American Studies, quotes other authors who are not any more specific-- for example, the footnote you asked about leads us to three other books, all of which (sigh) make the "it was banned in Boston" assertion, with no source, and all of which were written years after the events in question, by which time the story was well embedded in the popular culture. The Arnold Shaw book (one of Altschuler's footnotes) sort of hedges-- he says "several radio stations" said the song was too suggestive (The Rockin' 50s, p. 188). That's all. SO, if it's okay with you, I'm gonna keep researching this. There has to be an actual source that cites names and dates, wouldn't you think?
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Please come comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Michelle Obama/archive3. Hi You reversed an entry I made saying it's not as notable as any others. I'm wondering why it needs to be? Also since the addition of a section for Anthologies wasn't there in the first place, isn't that a good thing ie I'm trying to expand the article as a whole. Please rethink your position on this if you can. WendigoUK ( talk) 20:22, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
I have initiated a discussion here. I want to get this article to good article status eventually, so I feel that having such a long, sparsely referenced alumnus list is unnecessary when there is a main list for that. – Epicgenius ( talk) 14:04, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Could you please explain to me how similar to a source a citation needs to be to count as copyright violation?Hello, I was wondering if there is a more in depth guideline to what constitutes copyright violation than the current Wikipedia page; which is somewhat lacking in the exact specifics. I was wondering if there's a magic number for having the same words as the source, which constitutes copyright violation. According to the page for copyright, "You can use the facts, but unless they are presented without creativity (such as an alphabetical phone directory), you may need to reorganize as well as restate them to avoid substantial similarity infringement." Thanks for your help. Bullets and Bracelets ( talk) 14:09, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I removed the "activepol=yes" parameter because Obama is not running for office, he is not campaigning for re-election, nor is he involved in some current political conflict or controversy as far as I am aware. Therefore surely he meets none of the criteria for that template. — This, that and the other (talk) 08:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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I noticed that on the Cat Stevens article, that the quote box I set up re: his turn to Islam had a dead link. I feel it is very important to show one transformation and found another suitable quote from the same interview. I've been awful sick these last two years, and would do this myself otherwise... will you help? Help keep the quote box and the contents. The quote can come from here: [27]. If you would merely change the source to keep the quote alive, I'd very much appreciate it!! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:15, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you, Gareth - that's beautiful! Very happy new year to you too! Tvoz/ talk 17:30, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
ñ Crikey! I didn't even realize that I had a new message sitting there - never noticed the little yellow icon hiding at the top of the page. Those full-width yellow banners that were used "back in the day" were impossible to miss... Anyhow - Sure was nice to hear from you, Tina! Best wishes for the new year. :) Cgingold ( talk) 00:39, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Tvoz: now that you have done some fine ce work on Jackie Kennedy and RFK, I hope you will consider ce work on the two Frist Lady articles above. Michelle Obama is GA rated but there has been additions made to it since it passed GA; but, the additions made there have not been to the extent as those to the Laura Bush (2008 GA rated) article; I only gave them a quick look but I think you will see much of the same problems that JKO and RFK had, due to the same editor. Cheers, Kierzek ( talk) 14:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
I think we were both rolling back the changes at the same time. Shsilver ( talk) 05:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the cite for Winger and Arliss leaving Irvington. BMK ( talk) 06:42, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
On the Cat Stevens talk page, I have responded to your action of (twice) reverting my edit on Yusuf Islam's support of the fatwa to murder novelist Salman Rushdie. Arrivisto ( talk) 11:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC) Did you make the Ann Dunham Story need it for a bibliography and soon due Friday. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:367C:1FE0:55BA:2E29:5608:D1D1 ( talk) 04:00, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi- I'm still really ill, so my edits are minimal, but perhaps you can use this for the Cat Stevens biography. I prefer whenever possible to find print media discussing the video to cite the info. since often the videos --even the most acceptable- aren't always dependable. Anyway, I bumped into this, and haven't even listened to all of this: [28] If you leave me answers to any discussion, do so on my talk page. Oh! There is quite more in the video than I had guessed. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Tvoz- I have been sick again-- 3 hospitalizations in 2 months. Also moved to another apt. during this time. Just got the computer set up but without sound.. if my email is at outlook.com, I think I should be able to receive it, but will soon drop all my email addresses because someone gave a virus into my other email account, so I am using caution... -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 05:03, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Tvoz- don't know what to do with this, but it includes Alun Davies so.. it's here [29]. It is a cover tune, but well done. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 02:22, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
You do not know what I do about the Kent Shooting Incident, do not refer to my edits as vandalism pal. I didn't create a frickin dorky wikipedia account and use part of my day to edit an event in our nation's history just for the heck of it. Let me know when you get the scoop about this event from a reliable unbiased source. Until then go use you time editing some more wiki pages bro.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennis J. Hoekzema ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Did you get that photo placed? I suggest User:We hope who knows far more than I when it comes to photos. When I feel better, she (I think it's a "she") agreed to assist teaching me. Love you, you know.. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 11:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi, if you're doing experimental edits to a page, as you were doing earlier on Case (Icelandic Netflix tv series), it's better to preview your edits before you save them, and then save once you know it is rendering correctly. This does work with redirects - if what you have entered in the edit box is a valid redirect, you will see the arrow icon when previewing the page; otherwise, it will appear as a numbered list item. — Smjg ( talk) 12:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello Tvoz,
I found it in the text of an article ( Amy Lee), but removed it as copyright violation: |title=Evanescence's Amy Lee Plays 'Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?' Perhaps you, or another editor you know might be willing to take on this item? -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 17:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Hi Tvoz-- Just a note to wish you a merry Festivus! Hope life is good for you! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 13:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Special:Diff/761607722 what's a verdtape ⁓ Hello 71 14:43, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Don't put political opinions in edit summaries.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:29, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Excuse me, but are you two serious? This argument is a ridiculous waste of time and space, on an extremely small point. My opinion, as one of the longtime lead editors here? The neutral "candidate". I think we should move on. Tvoz/ talk 05:34, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I just want to send you greetings from Northern Europe where I have been living for almost all of my life. I still remember the day when I got to know Phil Ochs was dead and I had noone to share my sadness with. Still feel sad about it. Nobody else but me did know him amongst my friends in Stockholm. But he was present in Western Berlin in the late 1960s at a political meeting my brother and I had attended and actually we went to a pub afterwards together where we had some beer, I suppose. I was very young then and probably didn't drink any, but I still remember Phil sitting there, plucking his guitar strings almost all of the time, singing softly. To me he always was one of the greatest. Still is, unforgotten and I simply had to share it with somebody this time. I cherish the memory. Love your work on the Wikipedia about him! Thank you, love from Elchjägerin ( talk) 15:22, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
So I know you don't like me or any of my edits, but I'm having a hard time understanding a recent rejection a draft of mine I got: /info/en/?search=Draft:Early_life_of_John_F._Kennedy Maybe I'm retarded, but I always thought the reason for a sub article on a topic was if the subject had enough material to warrant it. - Informant16 May 25, 2017
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Please provide a link to the discussion you keep referring to. Thank you, - FlightTime ( open channel) 02:19, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
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Talk:Barack Obama Re this: please keep in mind the "Consensus required" restriction detailed on the talk page, and join in the discussion at Talk:Brett Kavanaugh#400 law_professors -- unintended revert? ~ Awilley ( talk) 02:20, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Mr Obama was a “Senior Lecturer” at The Univ of Chicago Law School, not a professor. He is a controversial figure in American history, and we should strive for utmost accuracy to avoid counterproductive partisanship. Thanks! https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.128.14.51 ( talk) 02:53, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.128.14.51 ( talk) 02:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Great hearing from you. Re this: Hey B - actually Henry Laufer is indeed class of 62 and is notable enough for a wiki article - but I don't have a good source for the Science bit. Also suspect that his PhD was later than 65 - that would be 3 years for undergrad and grad and I doubt that. I'll keep looking for sourcing other than personal knowledge. :) All best Tvoz/talk 23:48, 4 February 2019 (UTC) ME:I was 3 years earlier. Don't remember anything about Laufer. Should I? I gather you've done a Google search and Google scholar. <3 Bellagio99 ( talk) 00:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello Tvoz!Thanks for taking a look at the notes I left. As far as the final line, I really do believe it is fabricated. It isn't present in the transcript or audio, as I said. I think it warrants another look, if you are willing. To quote myself, ៛MSIS
Tvoz, might you consider archiving your talk page? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC) User:Therapyisgood has nominated Barack Obama for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
Making a Washington Post story for your vandalism reverting skillz is worthy of a barnstar. [1] Congratulations! B 02:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC) |
The Special Barnstar | ||
To Tvoz, on the very special occasion of an NPR program, for outstanding contributions to Wikipedia. - Susanlesch ( talk) 05:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar | ||
For going above and beyond the call of duty to deal with the Hillary Rodham Clinton FAC when the nominator didn't follow up. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:42, 29 April 2008 (UTC) |
The Original Barnstar | ||
If only more Wikipedians saw things with the reason and cogency in this talk page edit, this would be a far better project indeed. So what if I'm a little biased because you agreed with me twice...nice job anyway! Frank | talk 00:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |
The Epic Barnstar | ||
For another multi-year veteran of the 2008 candidates biographical articles and always-relevant music articles, for continuing to maintain a roaring presence. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC) |
The Half Barnstar | ||
For your efforts in collaborating with User:Utahredrock (who holds the other half of this barnstar), to bring Mark E. Kelly up to GA status. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:58, 5 March 2011 (UTC) |
Cents for Sense | ||
Sometimes two cents is worth alot more than it seems. Your comments about paid editing broaden the base for communication and discussion and widen the circle of ideas. Thanks for giving yours and providing some personal insight at various WP locations. ``` Buster Seven Talk 14:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
Thank you for making sure the Trayvon Martin case had sufficient oversight and neutrality. I greatly appreciate your input. HectorMoffet ( talk) 12:55, 3 April 2012 (UTC) |
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
I like the way you think. ArishiaNishi ( talk) 06:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC) |
The Resilient Barnstar | ||
No one deserves to be jumped on like that for simply speaking their mind, especially off-site. Don't let the drama hounds get you down. You do good work here, and you don't deserve to be discouraged from being as candid as you like about your own personal opinions. 66.87.4.63 ( talk) 02:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
Mind the Gap Award | ||
For saying the right thing, at the right time, in the right place. andreasegde ( talk) 09:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
The Copyeditor's Barnstar | |
In appreciation for the scrutiny and high-caliber copy-edit work to the betterment of Wikipedia, I present you with this award. Cheers, Kierzek ( talk) 12:28, 2 November 2015 (UTC) |
Sic transit gloria mundi... my brushes with media fame
The Washington Post 17 September 2007 (front page)
National Public Radio 3 April 2008 (click on "Listen Now" - scroll down to "'Round the clock")
Télérama (France) 20 May 2011
cited in Wikipedia Signpost "In the News" 5 May 2011
GlobalPost 6 February 2012
CNN.com 6 February 2012
Slate 6 February 2012
The Wall Street Journal 13 October 2012 (front page)
National Journal 1 November 2015
cited in Wikipedia Signpost "In the Media" 18 Nov 2015
my editing of
Barack Obama biography also
cited in Wikipedia Signpost "Dispatches" 10 Nov 2008
ZOMG!! I'm not worthy! You totally made it into The Washington Post. Too bad it is only for removing a picture of a naked black men from Obama's article. Heh. -- Bobblehead (rants) 04:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks everyone! Just doin' my part to make you all look good.... Tvoz | talk 23:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I just heard the NPR interview. You did a great job representing the project, and explaining Wikipedia's arcane processes to a lay audience. I'm surprised that they didn't go into the question of your personal views about the candidates — but now you've got a reliable source saying that your edits are "not for political purposes, but just to do the right thing". Do you suppose this will change Andy's mind? ;^) — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
It was the most Wikipedia-friendly news coverage that the 2008 presidential candidate articles have seen yet, and you represented the project really well. Thank you! -- HailFire ( talk) 04:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Greetings from a stranger lucky to hear you today. Beautiful job, you did Wikipedia proud. - Susanlesch ( talk) 05:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Link to CNN quoting me about Gingrich campaign's Wikipedia editing
You have some more media mentions to add to the top of your userpage. -- Michaeldsuarez ( talk) 22:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
To start a new thread, please click here.
Thank you, T. Voz., .... for all the (uncompensated!) time you put into making Wikipedia the incredibly useful resource that it is. .... Deacon John. DeaconJohnFairfax ( talk) 04:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
...that you're awake at this hour! Hmmm, guess I'll take a listen to your NPR interview... Regards, ProhibitOnions (T) 09:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I canz notz believzing it!!11111!111!!one1!11!11eleven11!!1!!11111
Now I know why you've such a POV about you that nobody can figure out ;-D
Happy editing none the less. Digital Ninja 21:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
If there are any other editors on Wikipedia that can give advice as Tvoz does, about turbulent subjects in a such a well-reasoned, intelligent, and clear way, I would like to know who they are. They (if there are more) should form The Good Club, and charge admission for their worthy advice. Respect is due. :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 21:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Kirk, ok I guess. But Ringo??? Tvoz/ talk 05:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
He is one of Rock and Roll's greatest drummers and is overlooked in part because he devoted himself to building a rhythmic platform that let Paul and John shine, and always put professional competence over flash (Max Weinberg of the E-Street Band is similar in this) I think every Beatle was a great musician, but it was Ringo that made then "th Beatles" It is even in the name of the band. You know, who sets "the beat?" Slrubenstein | Talk 15:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, nothing I wrote was meant to in any way diminish the greatness of one of rock's greatest lead guitarist, and arguable rock's best rhythm guitarist and best bass guitarist. But if one has to pick a favorite, it is still Ringo, and I was just explaining why.
Now, "The Inner Light" is in my opinion an absolute work of art, one of the finest hours ever broadcast on television and up there with many great films. For what it is worth, I think "Tapestry," "Parallels," "Cause and Effect," "Yesterday's Enterprise," "I, Borg," and "The Most Toys" are better than any original ST show (yes, with the probable exception of "City on the Edge of Forever," and "The Naked Time" a close second). I mean it, I think those episodes demonstrate just how great science fiction, and television, can be. But that just means Picard was given a better episode than Kirk. I still favor Kirk as captain. While I like Patrick Stewart a great deal, I frankly share Q's general view of Picard as pompous and humorlessly pretentious (Picard's brother's view of him too, as I recall). I must admit too that for a variety of reasons I do not like the prime directive, at least as it is often employed in TNG, and thus dislike Piccard when he is (as he often is) an especially pretentious mouthpiece for the prime directive. Kirk loved his ship and his crew but knew how to have fun and how to bend the rules when necessary. Piccard learned valuable lessons in "The Inner Light" and "Tapestry" and if he always displayed what he learned from those experiences I might like him a lot more. There are lots of things I like about TNG. It had a longer run and for this and other reasons more truly great episodes. But sorry, in my book, there is no substitute for Kirk, not by a long shot, and I would go even a little further and say no relationship in TNG came close to the complexity and depth of the many things that bound Kirk, Spock, and McCoy together.
I think Ochs and Dylan are a little more apples and oranges, but if you must ask (I must, I must!), then, Dylan (caveat: Ochs was better specifically at protest songs). Slrubenstein | Talk 22:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah - well, on song-writing, I would just say Ringo is not even in the running (although he contributed some great lines). He is my favorite Beatle, but certainly not my favorite song-writer, by any means. As for his post-Beatle career, I can't honestly answer your question, it is something i read somewhere. But it was based on either record sales or highest rank in the charts. The stats may have changed since I last checked which was at least ten years ago. Lennon's "Imagine" became an anthem for a generation but when it was first released it actually didn't chart well. Personally, Double Fantasy is the only post-Baetles Lennon work I really like, but thinking about all that makes me very sad... I am glad we are close on TNG episodes - if only I could get DVDs of just those episodes ...
Slrubenstein |
Talk 23:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
...and, really, BeeGees? And not Peter Frampton? Slrubenstein | Talk 23:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've posed a couple questions to two of your posts in the article talk page. I'm was hoping you might find a moment to answer them (in the talk page). Thanks. Jbarta ( talk) 23:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Why do you indent so much when you post?
Jbarta ( talk) 01:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Have stumbled across comments you've left for various persons and just want to say thank you for your incredible patience and generosity of time and spirit in helping folks. I aspire to be more like you as an editor. Kmzundel ( talk) 01:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Pausing to remember Jeffrey Miller, 20; Allison Krause, 19; William Knox Schroeder, 19; and Sandra Scheuer, 20 - four unarmed students who were shot dead by American soldiers on an Ohio college campus. I was hundreds of miles away on another college campus that terrible May day... and it could have been me. Tvoz/ talk 03:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Forty-three years later, remembering
Jeff,
Allison,
Sandy, and
Bill - four unarmed American students
shot dead by American soldiers on an American college campus. It could have been me.
Tvoz/
talk 02:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
I was 19, too, that day. But I just celebrated my 50th high school reunion this past weekend. They never had the chance to live their lives. No justice. Tvoz/ talk 04:54, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
48 years later, we remember. Four lives cut way too short, by American soldiers on an American college campus. No justice. Tvoz/ talk 00:17, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
It's been 50 years now. Fifty years. I remember the day like it was yesterday. I did not know any of them - I was in New York City on a different college campus. But as I've said too many times over these past 50 years, I knew it could have been me. They never had a chance at a full life. They'd be 70 years old this year - perhaps parents, grandparents - but they were cut down and there was never any justice. I remember Jeff, Allison, Bill, and Sandy, and Dean and the others who were wounded physically and psychically that day. Never forget. Tvoz/ talk 03:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Nobody's commented here, but I guess it's okay. Thank you so much for keeping this light shining in honor of four people who were just going about their business on a college campus. Others, the people who allowed the guard - apparently some of them quite inexperienced and skittish on all levels of decision-making - to carry live loaded rifles probably should be given the blame, or at least one of those "What were you thinking!" reverse-awards. But yes, thank you. Feel free to remove this post or move it somewhere in case you are purposely keeping this space free of comment. A nice light kept on in honor of four martyrs from the era. Randy Kryn 20:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
"My son saw Macca at Shea/CitiField on Friday, and he'd probably say "band", but he doesn't get a vote because he took his girlfriend to the concert instead of his mother."
I think it's time to start spending his inheritance. There again, it's probably the same effect we had on our parents. My sympathies. :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 23:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey there stranger! Great to hear from you again --- I'm devoting more and more time to Wikipedia as of late. Will be graduating next semester and have already gotten a head start on my masters. You're advice from over 3 years ago went farther than you will ever know!-- rocketrye12 talk/ contribs 18:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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Brilliant! :) -- andreasegde ( talk) 10:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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John Lennon (1940–1980) was an English musician and singer-songwriter who achieved worldwide fame as one of the founding members of The Beatles. Lennon and Paul McCartney formed one of the most successful songwriting partnerships of the 20th century. Born and raised in Liverpool, Lennon's first band, The Quarrymen, evolved into The Beatles in 1960. As the group began to undergo the disintegration that led to their break-up at the end of that decade, Lennon launched a solo career that would span the next, punctuated by critically acclaimed albums, including John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band and Imagine, and iconic songs such as " Give Peace a Chance" and " Imagine". Lennon revealed a rebellious nature and acerbic wit, and he became controversial through his work as a peace activist. He moved to New York City in 1971, where his criticism of the Vietnam War resulted in a lengthy attempt by Richard Nixon's administration to deport him. His songs were adapted as anthems by the anti-war movement. He took a sabbatical from the music business in 1975 to devote time to his family but reemerged in 1980 with a comeback album, Double Fantasy, but was murdered three weeks after its release. ( more...)
The Half Barnstar | ||
For your efforts in collaborating with User:Utahredrock (who holds the other half of this barnstar), to bring Mark E. Kelly up to GA status. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:58, 5 March 2011 (UTC) |
Ta very much, like, Tvoz. D'ya wanna a chip butty an' a cuppa tea? It's on me... :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 20:49, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
The end of the video (it's at the bottom of the page) might make you laugh.-- andreasegde ( talk) 09:58, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to say I respect your work and point out my comment at the talk page about why I instated my own version. I invite your comments there. Best, Abrazame ( talk) 17:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
or what? 74.111.13.100 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC).
moved and responded on Talk: F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre
Hi Tvoz, I'm a French journalist and I'm writing an article about the inside debate between Wikipedia contributors about the Dominique Strauss-Kahn page. You might not notice but there's a great difference of treatment between the French WP and the English one. I would like to ask you a few question about that if you can give me a little bit of your time today. Here you can contact me : guaranaseven@hotmail.com
Thank you. Regards, Antoine
-- Guaranaseven ( talk) 14:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Keep it up, Tvoz, and soon you'll be notable enough for an article of your own. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 18:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
The problem is that some people follow the rules too closely. Technically, an article shouldn't be in a category unless it is clear from the article. ("It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories.") The article doesn't say Ochs was a pacifist. I'll look for a source that says so explicitly. — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 19:05, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Care to help out editing this article? I feel you would be great at it. I'm planning on adding some information about the publicity and aftermath, and that's probably it. Flyer22 ( talk) 14:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
An a single purpose IP user apparently is starting an edit war about the Obama quote about his mother's difficulty getting health care because of "pre-existing conditions". Won't listen to reason; won't look at Janey Scott book. Can you help? You're better at this than me. Thx Bellagio99 ( talk) 01:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't, for example, Christian Bale was born in Wales but is not Welsh, same with Tommy Cooper, The Edge was born in England but is not English, Dave Snowden was born in England but is not English. It goes on. Why? Because they simply arne't. -- Τασουλα (Almira) ( talk) 22:48, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
01:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
You et alia have destroyed my faith in the ability of wikipedia editors to listen to, let alone recognize, extremely simple self-evident facts about the observable universe. I'm a scientist by trade and have believed for some time that Wikipedia might be that last bastion of hope for conserving the sanity of philosophical realism in popular culture. Today I am proven wrong. It's unfortunate that I can't delete my WP account, otherwise I would. Instead, I think I'll rename it, vanish, and never edit on WP again. This experience was, literally, that bad. Congratulations. (and, no, I doubt he could've read a paragraph of Joyce) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quophnix ( talk • contribs) 21:46, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
There is a discussion occuring here involving debate about whether or not the Beatles were "active" during 1994-1996. Your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc ( talk) 22:50, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
FYI, there is a vote taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc ( talk) 03:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I saw your name in the archived discussion at Sopranos talk page. I would like to get your feedback there on a disagreement between myself and another editor. Thanks. -Anon98 98.92.183.93 ( talk) 09:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello! As you've probably realized, MediaWiki's flawed diff system made it appear as though the changes were significantly more extensive than they actually were (largely because I added a line break, I think).
The main purpose of my edit was to undo a change made yesterday (the insertion of the article's title in bold, which isn't MoS-compliant in this context).
Sorry about (and thanks for correcting) the "January" typo; I don't know how that slipped past me. :) —
David Levy 08:52, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
I happened to be swinging by another article and happened to notice some vandalism, then figured I'd check on the watchlist. I see not much has changed since I ladt stopped by the Obama article. Still the same "He's not A-A!" and "OMG!! Why aren't all the criticisms of him covered in detail!!". As for the vandal.. Maybe try the escalating vandalism tags? Even then it is going to be hard to get the ban hammer dropped because he only does it once every couple of days.-- Bobblehead (rants) 23:56, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello Tvoz, since your reply on Callista Gingrich's discussion page, vandalism has indeed continued to be a problem, and some is still there now. Would you please look again and consider adding back the semi-protection? Joe DeSantis Communications Director, Gingrich 2012 ( talk) 03:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I shared your concern recently at the above article along with other editors. Jimbo seems to be Ok with it See User:Joes talk page...so end of story....or is it? Check at campaign article history since some discussion was removed. Stay in touch. ``` Buster Seven Talk 07:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/06/gingrich-spokesman-defends-wikipedia-edits/
You have some more media mentions to add to the top of your userpage. -- Michaeldsuarez ( talk) 22:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
All of a sudden Ive become a bother. But, an important project WP:WEaPOn (about Paid Operatives) I have initiated is up for speedy. Can you assist? I want to play by the rules but they seem stacked against an honest effort to record a history of an event as it happens. Urgent. Any comment you might offer would be greatly appreciated. TY. ``` Buster Seven Talk 06:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Cents for Sense | ||
Sometimes two cents is worth alot more than it seems. Your comments about paid editing broaden the base for communication and discussion and widen the circle of ideas. Thanks for giving yours and providing some personal insight at various WP locations. ``` Buster Seven Talk 14:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC) |
There is a discussion taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc ( talk) 04:18, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
At the risk of being accussed of canvassing, I know you may be interested in a current request for comment regarding the COI guideline and this noticeboard: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/COI. ``` Buster Seven Talk 04:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Jose Antonio Vargas#Immigration status. RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 02:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, just wondering if our guidelines remain the same. I ran into Metric by accident. See the references at the bottom of the article- the use of You Tube video music. I know we can use videos when they are interviews or documentaries, but this is different. What do you think? -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 21:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Please help a newb get it right. Sumthin changed when I wasn't lookin..... how references are done
In Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
Both sentences were flagged as needing citations. I found a source for each. The second sentence was from an article in the Orlando Sentinel; a person or bot corrected/reformatted my input to the changed format.
The first sentence was from a, to my knowledge, previously uncited source: http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation_world/20120321_ap_wasflashooteravigilanteorgoodneighbor.html?c=r
When I inserted that citation in my usual way, it created a new reference "1" that didn't automatically create a footnote down in References. The new/current reference format is much cleaner but... How do I put the new source into the existing references in proper format/style?
If it were still the weekend, I'd have time to research, maybe find the answer myself, but I'm about to get busy with two 12-hour day shifts and then two 10-hour swings on Wed and Thur (and then get a 3-day weekend).
Thanks,
DocTree ( talk) 12:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey there Tvoz! I just ran across your response on Talk:Barack Obama and I don't think it was as civil as it could have been. I haven't examined the archives, so maybe the IP's point had been brought up many times before, and you were getting tired of it, but I just think you could have phrased things better. One of the things that makes Wikipedia great is that most of the time everyone treats each other with respect and good faith and no one gets driven away. Let's strive to keep it that way please! Best, Jesse V. ( talk) 02:36, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Jesse - thanks for your note. I'm sure I could have phrased all comments I make better - that's true for anyone - but let's take another look at the comment I was responding to, line by line:
No I do not "own" the article, but if I could look at the histories of some people then I bet I'd see strong evidence that you think you do.
I just read the "professor" article on the US, and they show lecturers as being distinct from professors. They also make clear the distinction between capital letter "Professor" and the lower-case informal "professor" and in this case the latter applies to Obama, but the former is the one actually used in the article, which is more evidence of intentional lying to promote Obama.
I assume this is because the professor article states that a real professor has more prestige than a mere lecturer. It seems like you aren't actually reading my arguments and your mind was made up before I even posted so I'm not sure why I'm bothering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.196.64 (talk) 16:26, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
And the IPs earlier points in the thread include these phrases:
Are these comments ok with you? Respectful? You see, yes, this minute rightwing talking point has been raised many times before and it is utterly without merit, raised almost as a tic, so regular editors are tired of it. You'll note that a few other editors responded with similar annoyance to mine. But in fact this IP SPA did not ask a reasoned, balanced, respectful question. Instead he cast aspersions on the people who work quite hard at this article, trying to keep it current, fair, and well-written as befits a Featured Article about an important individual. He accused us as a group of being blatantly dishonest, deliberately deceptive, intentionally misleading. WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL are foundational to Wikipedia, and I believe in them. But they are a two-way street, and there is nothing in AGF or CIVIL that requires us to assume good faith or be civil to someone who is being uncivil and attacking us. We are not guided by "turn the other cheek" - we 're supposed to try to work together in a hospitable manner and foster mutual respect. I appreciate and share your concern about keeping Wikipedia great, but I part company with you on this one, and am not hesitant to say that I hope this exchange has driven him away. We don't need to encourage editors who come on and just attack. It's not as bad as vandalism, but it is detrimental to the project as it drains energy and distracts from the important work we need to be doing.
But, sincerely, thanks for the note - I hope my response opens your eyes a bit to the reality I've seen here over the years that some people are here to make trouble and in my view are not entitled to the usual standards. Tvoz/ talk 04:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent edits on the Shooting of Trayvon Martin article - they are sensible and much appreciated. – Teammm Let's Talk! :) 06:20, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm logging off for now; the lead is a mess and no one bothers to fix clear issues of undue weight and needless political framing even when we discuss it on the talk page. I'll leave the twitter one up for tonight; but its a clear WP:UNDUE and it keeps ballooning in size every day. Seriously, it has a reference with Twitter's rules for privacy. When will the line be drawn? I work hard on it, but I'll comment your post on the talk page before I go. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 06:16, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
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Obviously, I disagree. What relevant reason would there be to call a 17 year old male a "boy", other than to create a biased opinion against the "man" Zimmerman. Isaidnoway ( talk) 02:55, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Isaidnoway, you clearly have no basis to this argument because Trayvon was a boy, he had just turned 17 a few weeks before he was killed. He was not an adult, he was a minor. I don't see one logical argument that a reasonable person would use to claim that calling a minor a boy is vandalism or derogatory. The fact that Trayvon was unarmed is one of the basic facts in the shooting incident, so I don't know where you're coming from with that as well. I hope this is an April Fools joke. – Teammm Let's Talk! :) 16:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for making sure the Trayvon Martin case had sufficient oversight and neutrality. I greatly appreciate your input. HectorMoffet ( talk) 12:55, 3 April 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks for the backup/sanity check. I realize people aren't going to agree on things all the time, especially in such a charged topic like this, but I really wasn't expecting as big of a blow up for saying "we don't all agree". Gaijin42 ( talk) 21:03, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I have to apologize for adding the marijuana and suspension material without realizing there was an editing note. I didn't see it at the time I added the material. I'm still new and learning the ropes. From now on, I will make sure to look for such notations. No hard feelings? Rollo V. Tomasi ( talk) 02:08, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
In addition, could you please take a look at the Shooting of Trayvon Martin talk page and the latest comment from "Doc of Soc": "IMO it has always been reasonable to believe that Zimmerman was bound and determined to get himself a "F'ing Coon". Total Bias acknowledged. I feel better now. Back to trying to be fair and balanced. Namaste — DocOfSoc • Talk • 00:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)" Can a comment like that be made and allowed to stay on an article's talk page? Aren't the rules for biographies of living persons the same on the talk pages for biographies of living persons? I still can't believe he said what he did and no one else has done anything about it. Thank you for your help. Rollo V. Tomasi ( talk) 02:11, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words and understanding. Rollo V. Tomasi ( talk) 02:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Not actually trying to make the argument, since I have given up, but here is my logic for why the Martin bio stuff is relevant (And zimmermans). I think the logic is very parallel between the two people.
You brought up the "zimmerman didnt know" point above, and my logic in no way requires Zimmerman to know the history. Martin may have objectively been acting in some way that was actually suspicious that Zimmerman observed. (Please be clear, I am not accusing Martin of doing anything, just saying that Zimmerman's accusation that he was is not implausible, in part because he has a history of such actions)
If someone says they saw lindsay lohan drunk or high, we probably believe them, based on past experience, even if that particular person has no idea who lindsay lohan is, or her history (foreigner who saw her without recognizing?). If someone makes the same accusation about someone with a known "good reputation", we do not believe them. Therefore our knowledge of the past is relevant, even if the observer did not have such knowledge.
I realize this entire chain of logic is synth/or, and I was not trying to include this chain in the article, but the chain is used to explain why I think the information is relevant to the article. Ultimately every piece of information must be determined to be relevant by some level of synth/or as we are making choices of what to include and exclude out of the superset of information that is included in the media.
Anyway, I hope that explains what my argument was. Gaijin42 ( talk) 03:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
YES I know I have to do it here. I will, promise. Real Soon Now. But I don't want any bots botting around here, so don't any Good Samaritan add one. Thank you all, and sorry for the time it must take to load.... Tvoz/ talk 04:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Tvoz, I wanted to thank you for kind words towards me :). I'm sorry I got all huffy about deletion possibilities, and I'm so glad you helped me. :) This is what Wikipedia is about. I just want to alert you-- the Chief Bill Lee and the Rep. Bobby Rush images are being disputed under copyright. There seems to me something fundamentally immorally about public images being deleted because of "copyright claims". How can footage of a public body in a public chamber be considered under "copyright"? How can an official, publicly distributed portrait of a city police chief be under "copyright".
This is absurd. I believe both are public domain images since they are public records of democratic processes (rather than artistic works). Surely the people of the United States have the right to use images from the US House of Reps.
Any help greatly appreciated. I don't know the wikibureaucracy, but know that if we lose images of the chief and the rep, our article is less educational and less neutral. Help me Tvoz, you're my only hope. :) -- HectorMoffet ( talk) 08:39, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) The copyright of the photos is more complicated. I thikn the "Bobby" photo is from c-span, in which case it is actually copyrighted. the image was not produced or published by the govt, but by a private entity. cspan copyright policy. Regarding the "headshots", we also do not know that those were not taken professionally, many companies/organizations let high ranking people use their own photos for publicity type photos, and the photos in question are clearly not "stand against the wall for your security pass" photos. Im not saying they must be deleted, I am ok with them staying. But it is not the only possible conclusion. Gaijin42 ( talk) 14:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I posted an explanation about my removal of the detective bit and why I think it is a Verifiability problem, among others. If, for sake of form, you would like me to revert my revert, I will do so, but I would like additional sourcing to be added since it is very thin on supporting information at the moment. -- Avanu ( talk) 04:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Please take a look at some of my edits and stances. I am neutral and not pro-Zimmerman.
Martin
Zimmerman
Other
Times accused of POV: MANY
Notice how I take both Martin and Zimmerman issues even if they are unpopular? Why would I argue to keep off negative attacks Martin if I was pro Zimmerman? Why would I argue to keep off negative Zimmerman attacks if I was pro Martin? What about the other issues unrelated to them? I've acted with the flow of info, and been attacked for my stances on both sides. Yet as a whole, my stance and edits are neutral and careful. ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 05:59, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Did you remove this source by mistake? I added it to the end of the section.
Florida Special Prosecutor
On April 11, Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, the special prosecutor, announced that George Zimmerman had been charged with second-degree murder. In Florida, that charge carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment and a minimum sentence of 25 years. She reported that Zimmerman had turned himself in to law enforcement and was arrested and placed in custody.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/zimmerman.charges.pdf
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Seriously? Ok. Tvoz/ talk 07:40, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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On Ryan's voting record, there's also this aptly titled piece from Politico: "Paul Ryan’s voting record: Big-spending conservatism". Of course, Ryan voted for pretty much every big-government budget-buster that crossed his desk. Right up until... I dunno, let's say January 20, 2009, when he suddenly became deficit-hawk crusader. But that reality will probably prove unpalatable, and unsayable, in his article, no matter how many reliable sources attest to it. MastCell Talk 02:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
So I was just reading and lightly editing United States presidential election, 2012 and I realized the article doesn't even have as much as a full sentence on Paul Ryan yet. That's surprising enough, but what's even more surprising is that the article doesn't include information on anything that has happened since Romney won the Texas primary in May. I know that summer is generally the dead season for presidential politics as both parties gear up for the fall, but surely something more can be added. Do you have any suggestions on how best to go about improving that article? NW ( Talk) 02:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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Since the cover of his own book says he was born in Kenya, I have a verifiable source, his own words.
So this is not vandalism. You can shut off my editing privileges, but it doesn't change the fact that his own words incriminate him.
I will just get some other friends to edit it for me.
Take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.6.3.90 ( talk) 17:08, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
That is most certainly what I was referring to.
How convenient that the president's publicist said it's a mistake NOW. Why didn't the president catch the mistake YEARS ago? I think Tvoz is just a liberal that doensn't like that there are people like me out here that see the president for what he is, a fraud and a liar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.6.3.90 ( talk) 16:48, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Accepted. the nerve was partially pre-struck by tvoz above - I was trying to be helpful and identify what was being discussed (so that it could correctly be refuted (vs just the normal platitudes)). I felt like tvoz didnt give me WP:AGF and that I was being lumped in as a birther. so I was perhaps oversensitive to your comment.
The nerve is also a result of the tendancy by many to ignore real arguments against Obama and his policies, and accuse any disagreement as being race based. Prejudice and Racism are real. Accusing everyone of it willy-nilly cheapens the accusation, and makes the true instances of it harder to deal with.
As I said to the the IP above, I have lots of reasons I don't like Obama, but neither the legitimacy of the election, nor his race are among them. As an aside, I read that article you posted for DrMies. While certainly the issues discussed are real, I think they are blamed for more than they deserve - there are vocal minorities on all issues and sides that can be used as a distraction and scape goat. I also thought the author was somewhat disengenious in his claims that Obama had avoided race. Although I was dissapointed that he won, I was certainly hoping that his tenure could serve as a milestone/opportunity for racial healing. instead I think he has played the race card every time it would be advantageous for him (and in many times he didn't need to be involved at all, like the "beer summit" incident) - I can't really blame him for that, all politicians use whatever tricks they can - but it does make "Hope" a lot more difficult to come up with. (and to be fair, it is undeniable that race issues have come back at him the other way (but as stated, direty tricks are to be expected in all directions), but I don't think it can be honestly claimed he avoided race as asserted in the article).
@Buster7, if your intent is to call me prejudiced, then I think you need to ponder if you are part of the solution, or part of the precipitate. Gaijin42 ( talk) 19:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I think the Atlantic article did a nice job of outlining the way this played out in the Trayvon Martin case - it was really Obama's statement of sympathy that triggered the huge backlash of vitriol from the right - most of which, let's remember, was aimed at a teenager shot dead while walking home from the store with snacks. The message is simple - Obama can't address any racially tinged issue, unless he wants to immediately and irretrievably polarize it. That's not exactly fertile ground for "racial healing" - it's more conducive to simply pretending that racial issues don't exist or magically disappeared on January 20, 2009.
About the demise of "Hope", well, I guess it depends on your viewpoint. I think a case could be made that Obama tried hard to govern in a bipartisan manner - to the extreme of jettisoning the eternal progressive goal of single-payer healthcare in favor of a conservative-authored free-market healthcare reform package. But there was clearly a decision on the GOP's part, from the moment of Obama's election, to oppose him tooth and nail on everything. The last 4 years don't make sense in any other context - certainly the GOP abandoned a lot of its perennial policy positions the second Obama made a move to adopt them. It seems obvious that partisanship comes first, and public policy is just a tool to bludgeon the other guy with. I mean, how cynical is it to see things like the DREAM Act or the individual mandate - conservative ideas - being anathemized by the party that originated them, solely because Obama took a shine to them? But anyway... I'm monopolizing Tvoz's talk page and I should stop. MastCell Talk 19:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
You're always welcome here, MastCell. I'm not going to respond to everything, but I will say to the earlier comments by the IP that he is absolutely correct that I don't like that there are people out there who ignore the truth, perpetrate lies, deliberately distort facts, and otherwise do anything they can to undermine the legitimacy of Obama's presidency - and I agree that it is because he is black. There are many people in this country who are horrified that we elected a black president, and all they can do is seize on discredited nonsense about his birthplace, which is irrelevant anyway because his mother was a US citizen. But the point remains that if the IP was referring to this pamphlet he surely didn't say so in his edits, or anywhere else, and instead pretended that a Kenyan birth was a fact and slipped it into a very peripheral article without comment or source. That is troublemaking. Gaijin, I said that you were generously giving him some justification - explaining what you thought he was talking about - not that you signed on to it or agreed with it, and that I did not think that he deserved your retroactive explanation of what he did. I was not lumping you in with birthers. Also, fyi, the pamphlet stuff is already in the Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories article - I clarified it yesterday but it was there already - and that article on idiotic fringe garbage is the only place this belongs.
As for Bush v Gore, I don't want to go over this again either, except to say that the fact is that the Florida Supreme Court ordered a statewide recount, and the US Supreme Court stopped it, stepping on their customary practice of respecting states' rights. The count should have been allowed to go forward, statewide as the Florida Supreme Court ordered, and the chips would have fallen where they fell. Instead, the election was decided by one person's vote and this cast a permanent cloud over the end result. In other words, the US Supreme Court did not have to accept the case at all, thus allowing the Florida Supreme Court ruling to stand and no question of which counties should be recounted would have arisen. If Bush won that way, it would at least have not been illegitimate.
Finally, back to the birthers - now Romney is using this racist crap as a crowd-pleaser, and his campaign's attempt to pretend that he was only talking about his own birthplace is offensive. No one asked to see his birth certificate? His presidential-candidate-father, born in Mexico, would turn over in his grave at this new low. Tvoz/ talk 20:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
One answer, perhaps not surprisingly, is that talk of welfare is a powerful trigger for racial resentment. A political scientist (quoted in the article) did some interesting research demonstrating that the ads had little bearing on policy attitudes or other political questions, but were very powerful primers of racial resentment.
Klein put it this way: " Romney’s welfare ads are not racist. But the evidence suggests that they work particularly well if the viewer is racist, or at least racially resentful. And these are the ads that are working so unexpectedly well that welfare is now the spine of Romney’s 2012 on-air message in the battleground states." Anyhow, I thought it dovetailed with this discussion thread nicely. MastCell Talk 20:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey there, Tvoz - I dropped by to leave you a very brief note... and since it's been a while, I thought I'd take a really quick glance at your talk page to see what you've been up to. Hah! Should have known better!! Of course, I ended up immersed in reading some good-size chunks. The craziness never ends, does it?!? <shakes head> As you know, I've mostly stayed clear of really contentious articles - and CFD - for the last couple of years; there's just too much to deal with in real life to involve myself in protracted, stomach-churning disputes. So I have to say, I'm in awe of your stamina, girl - don't know how you do it!! :) You seem to be in the middle of everything (loosely speaking) - from the major political bios to Trayvon Martin to... what else, The Beatles. Not to mention becoming a minor media star in your own right. LOL! One last thing before I get to the item that brought me here in the first place: I enjoyed the hell out of your reply to the accusation that you had been less than civil in your response to a particularly irksome editor. My sentiments exactly!!
Okay, here we go: I thought you might like to put in your 2 cents regarding this CFD that I spotted purely by accident. (I've got a completely unrelated CFD on the same page.) I know we don't see eye to eye on this question, but who cares?? Regards, Cgingold ( talk) 14:39, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I take offense to your tactics, which seem to be, tell the lie over an over again without ever providing any proof and people will eventually believe it. If I have been pushing this for years as you have repeatedly claimed, then please address these simple questions: 1) when did I make my very first talk comment in this regard 2) when was the very first talk thread I ever opened on it? ~ GabeMc ( talk| contribs) 22:01, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
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... here since it's increasingly off-topic on [Tt]he Beatles poll. :-)
I must admit I agree with some others about the impropriety of the "testosterone" bit (even though it was witty). There is no question that Wikipedia could use (a lot) more women editing, but blaming the existence (or nature) of editing disputes on the putative nature of men is... well, I find it offensive. Honestly, this is no better than if someone claimed that disputes are worse when women are involved in it because they are too emotional for what would otherwise be a rational discussion!
Yes, I know that's the current MWF party line; it doesn't make it any less wrong or offensive. That kind of bullshit faux-differences between the sexes that "everyone knows" and propagates does much more against women participating online than most of the earnest sexism few people take seriously nowadays. Sexism will go away when people stop even caring about gender; not by replacing one set of idiotic stereotypes with a different one. Nothing about disputes on Wikipedia requires having a vagina or penis. — Coren (talk) 14:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
[Tvoz] says disputes have become more frequent over the years. She blames "an overabundance of testosterone running around the pages."
I repeat, imagine if I had said this dispute about the Beatles would have been settled several years ago if it weren't for so many women editing Beatles articles. Or that estrogen is well-known to cause Wikipedia editors to act snarky, dishonest, vindictive and uncompromising. I predict that I would be asked/forced to redact immediately. Tvoz, your comment was rude and sexist, plain and simple. I am offended, disappointed and surprised that you would stoop so low for a scapegoat, and in a major national publication! Question. - Do you think your comment will help bring female editors to Wikipedia, or will it help scare them off? What was that about driving editors away? Besides, this dispute obviously crosses genders, as evidenced by your significant leadership involvement in it going back more than 4 years.
← Not for the first time, Gabe, you have totally misunderstood and/or distorted what I said. My reply at the poll and to Coren above spells out what I was talking about (which was not about this specific mediation) and your nasty comment here pretty much proves my point. Nowhere did I say anything about anyone or any group even remotely similar to your strawman example ("imagine if I had said ... that estrogen is well-known to cause Wikipedia editors to act snarky, dishonest, vindictive and uncompromising.") - you give your own biases away, and argue in a personally insulting way. Since you can't engage in a civil conversation, please go play somewhere else - I had about enough of your mode of discourse at the poll. Tvoz/ talk 00:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Really? "And the people in the minority [...] are in the better position to recognize and identify it than those in the majority". Perhaps. But it just so happens that I am "in the minority" as well: as a gay man I am well aware of societal systemic oppression of minorities (and – in the West – of one of a considerably more vicious and violent nature). Would a comment that "straight men (which form the vast majority of Wikipedians) are the cause of much of the disputes because win, or out-shout, bully, all opponents to prove their masculinity" be any better?
I do understand where you're coming from, but you're simply substituting one prejudice for another. Women are no less apt to bully, intimidate and browbeat than men in a dispute – even if our cultural mores tend to have created different modalities for expressing them. The volatility and habitual idiocy of disputes on Wikipedia is endemic to the medium; facilitated as it is by distance, anonymity, and detachment. Pretending that the cause is "male" in origin (even if you qualify it with "adolescent" – last I checked women had puberty too) is simple, unadulterated sexism. No better than the morons who claim women have no place in gaming "because they aren't driven enough", or that they have no place in hard science because "they don't have the analytical capabilities". — Coren (talk) 02:14, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
←I wrote this without seeing andreasegde's last, so it's not a reply to it. I didn't think he was directing that previous comment at me, but I agree with him that the conversation does seem to be getting a bit repetitive. JBurlinson has it exactly right, that is indeed what I was trying to do, and thanks for getting it. I'm glad the reporter chose that quote, because it encapsulates my sense of what happens here and maybe gets people to look at it from a different perspective.
I'll give this one more try. Coren, it's not just the nature of the medium - in fact I see remarkably little of this type of behavior on Facebook. This is likely because of the nature of Wikipedia vs Facebook, where Facebook is a social-interaction site and Wikipedia a task-oriented place. Dispute resolution, what I am talking about, doesn't even come up on Facebook - their policies are not determined or even affected by what their users have to say, and surely not in some kind of quasi-democratic-like way as Wikipedia purports to be. My observation continues to be that the goal in disputes here for some people is to compromise and for others to win. The need to win - the status-seeking - territory marking - is what I've been talking about, and like it or not, it is widely associated with adolescent male behavior, hence, in a word, testosterone.
One last point - of course I agree that social shaping has a lot to do with this - my shorthand was not making a genetic, "they-can't-help-it" argument - but that doesn't refute what I'm seeing, and certainly does not refute it from an anthropological perspective: genetics play a large role in much of who we are, but society also shapes our attitudes and approaches to everything. I'm not going to get into a diatribe about the patriarchy here, but you can guess what my conclusions are regarding society's role in shaping the attitudes of boys (and girls), which I see on display here, not unlike a peacock display (another way of saying testosterone). Dispute resolution on Wikipedia has become a battleground for who can out-shout whom (volume, not quality), and this discussion ought to be happening all over the project, not isolated to my talk page just because my quote got it some attention. Tvoz/ talk 22:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Lysistrata (c. 400 BCE). There is nothing new under the sun. Get over it, haters. Viriditas ( talk) 01:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, Tvoz. This male editor, for one, agrees with what you said, and for having the courage to say it and stand by it. First Light ( talk) 02:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks - not much discourages me when it comes to speaking my mind, but I appreciate your comment and the star! Cheers Tvoz/ talk 07:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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A cookie! Thank you! Tvoz/ talk 06:19, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks so much andreasegde - love this one! Tvoz/ talk 06:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Seconded: surprised no-one's called you a misandrist yet. Ahh, the joys of privilege blindness... Sceptre ( talk) 14:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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And here it is, an argument about testosterone. Somebody will have to tell me if that's ironic or not.-- andreasegde ( talk) 10:10, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Thirded. Enough said. Raystorm (¿Sí?) 23:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC) |
And tea to go with it. Perfect! Tvoz/ talk 06:20, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi! I didn't figure you were a technical guy but... after cruising Wikipedia for a half an hour I thought I would ask somebody, at random. Apparently IPs cannot create articles. Could you create a new article called "MC3 connector" for me? It is a predecessor of the MC4 connector that I have been messing with. The initial article could just include a redirect to MC4 connector as I have started a section there and it woud get teleported to the new article. I could post a picture, if I ever figure out how, also. If you are not the right way to go with this can you direct me to someplace? (not tell me were to go lol). Thanks 174.118.142.187 ( talk) 20:17, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Good afternoon Tvos. How are you? Thought you might not have spotted this and may want to advise. All the best! Sincerely, Gareth
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Hey, Buster - thanks! Same to you and yours. Tvoz/ talk 23:34, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Coming up on six year ago :-) you posed the question I reached tonight, namely, : "... is there a ... template to be used in warning IP addresses not to vandalize?" (... again, in my case). I'd found Template:uw-biog1 just a few days ago for one event here. Tonight I encountered another unrelated event and in addressing it realized the template wasn't quite right for IP #s (where one doesn't wish to accuse however politely any old or young person at the IP of vandalism; even the language in your question, looked at closely, doesn't distinguish well, if I may say so; "IP addresses" don't vandalize, users at IP addresses vandalize, and quite possibly only one or some of the users at the IP address). So I adapted the wording there (first draft, let's say) and then went back and retrofit my first one.
I could just jump to Template talk:Uw-biog1 to carry this further but, somehow I'm hazy on, I found my way here and like paying homage to the long-ago. Any thoughts? Just tell me to jump and I'll do so. (I've thought a Template:uw-biog1a, even the whole 1-5 series. ... Or maybe my zeal will fade.)
But I was warmed to see the "Skip to the TOC" template in use on your talk page. I discovered that template fairly recently and now apply it on talk pages when blocs of templates seem (to me) to thwart, potentially, interest in "talk"ing.
And I'd say you're maybe ready for another archive of the ol' Talk Page. Pretty voluminous for my (still dialup) download capac., it was. Will do so as the quid for being here if you say the word.
Pleasure to find this corner of the Wik. Cheers. Swliv ( talk) 02:08, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
You know, you really shouldn't mark page moves as "minor edits". Just saying. (hell, it's been a while but I didn't even realize that you could mark them as minor...)
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I'm puzzled by your vehement haste to terminate discussion of an editing dispute here. Isn't discussion essential to collaboration? Isn't discussion preferable to an edit war? — Stepheng3 ( talk) 18:14, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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Aahh okay. I just understood it. Thank you. :) Jivesh1205 ( Talk) 17:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC) Thanks for your edits on these. We need more objective editors like you on this monster. Could you show me where in Wikipedia it says that publishing information isn't necessary in the reference links?-- Aichik ( talk) 15:05, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't get it. My input to the article / entry identifies Clinton's building, and you say (when you delete those details) "remove extraneous details that are way too much for bio; no need for publishing address -privacy issue" (bold is mine). But, your reference gives the building name (The Whitman) IN THE TITLE of the reference you substituted. Oh, you didn't look at the reference as you inserted it? What was so wrong with my references and so right with yours? Just asking.- Peter Ellis - Talk 11:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Long time no speak! Hope you're doing well. As you might've noticed, the lead photo on the Lennon page has been changed. Hopefully, the powers that be will let it stay. However, the uploader credited the photo to Yoko Ono, which is not correct. She may be the copyright holder, but the photo was taken by Iain MacMillan. The uploader named the page "John Lennon by Yoko Ono," and we need an administrator to "move" it to a page called "John Lennon by Iain MacMillan." I believe you're an administrator? Hotcop2 ( talk) 23:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC) The Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Jose Antonio Vargas". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the request page, the formal mediation policy, and the guide to formal mediation, please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate. Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by 10 April 2013. Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you. Cat Stevens talkWell, my comment today certainly proves my need for reading glasses and enough time to write a thoughtful response! However, make no mistake- you are an outstanding editor! Add the fact that you are willing to scrap with the best of them, and.. you are my heroine! I'm also willing to bet that you have a lot more fans than you know about. Of those who disagree with you, you still retain a grudging respect. I mean this in complete sincerity. Bask in the warmth of this knowledge. :) -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 00:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC) Hello, Tvoz. You have new messages at
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I still dabble now and then. Definitely thought of you during the last election cycle, but didn't have the stomach to get involved with the Mitt page again. It's certainly interesting to see how these controversies have a life cycle of their own. Glad you are a brave enough soul to put your real name out there. Cheers Notmyrealname ( talk) 21:04, 6 May 2013 (UTC) Hi there. You've been in discussions on my talk page regarding Qworty, so might wish to contribute ideas, etc., to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NaymanNoland (section: "Project Qworty"). If you haven't read today's Salon article addressing this disaster, it's here: http://www.salon.com/2013/05/17/revenge_ego_and_the_corruption_of_wikipedia/ NaymanNoland ( talk) 22:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tvoz, can you find an editor who knows IPA pronunciation (I think that's what it's called, anyway)? I recall having that issue with placing the pronunciation for Rory Gallagher over a year ago, and I can't recall now who that was... This time, it's for the biography of Michael Oher. His last name is pronounced "Oar". Thanks. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 05:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Can any of my faithful talk page readers help? I don't do IPA. Tvoz/ talk 14:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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Kevin, I was there too, having lived through it and protested it. I certainly did not mean to imply that the draft began in 1969 - that is of course completely incorrect. I will look again at what I said and perhaps I worded something poorly, but what I intended to say is that the =lottery= in 1969 was the first one since World War II, which I believe it was. As I am sure you know, the draft is not the lottery - the draft is something every male between certain ages was subject to, and the lottery was a particular event that happened in 1969 which assigned a number to each birthdate and that number determined the order in which you were called up. So people with low numbers were called up and people with high numbers were not. Bink is completely right that the protests were about the war itself, with the inequities of the draft being an important part of it. Earlier in the process there were exemptions - student, teacher, others - that were inherently unfair to groups of men who were disproportionally called up. But the war was the problem, and there was never any ambiguity about that. Had there been a voluntary army there still would have been protests against the war - but of course being sent to die in an illegal and immoral war through the draft made it even more horrendous. With no war, there were not protests about the draft - not that people liked it particularly. Being sent to peacetime Germany like Elvis who was drafted did not raise protests. The Vietnam war did. Tvoz/ talk 03:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Also, please take a look at Draft lottery (1969) which perhaps makes this clearer. That article needs work, but it is wholly consistent with the text that I reinstated in Kent State shootings, wording which actually has been in that article more or less since 2005. I did not write it, I reinstated it. What exactly do you find incorrect? Tvoz/ talk 05:44, 3 October 2013 (UTC) I've reworked the section in Kent State shootings to clarify the historical background, including the lottery. Tvoz/ talk 06:06, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Hi, I agree with the direction that your going, and the message is more clear. However, I think that the article on the shootings gets a bit off-point with too much explanation on the draft-lottery. The beauty of WP is that the reader can side-track to other articles. I attempted to streamline the paragraph this evening, hopefully without loosing your objective. Kevin Murray ( talk) 06:32, 8 October 2013 (UTC) LOL how are ya? Hotcop2 ( talk) 21:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
LOL The/the. I'm ok. Had the summer from hell. Even my dog died. We've developed a new problem re: Beatles. Every year, there's three or four new books on the boys. However, they say 'new" things, but they're either flat out wrong, made up, or rediculous embellishing. So altho they're 'sourced' I have to remove the stuff with huge explanations. Hotcop2 ( talk) 03:40, 10 October 2013 (UTC) Sorry. I just undid your edit to this stub article. I think the original text was accurate to the source cited, and your edit unnecessarily made the article ambiguous about the relationship. I don't want to edit war over this, so let's chat on the article's talk page, if you disagree. -- JohnPomeranz ( talk) 14:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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DonnaHalper ( talk) 17:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC) Thanks for your efforts; yes this sort of question really is difficult to resolve, and I hope I don't seem as if I am trying to beat a dead horse; but again, when I search even the sources you cited, they all do the same thing: they say "it got banned" but never say by whom or even when. I saw the Don Everly article and he says he was told that "they" banned it in Boston (the phrase "banned in Boston" had long since taken on a life of its own) but he doesn't say by whom. The Altschuler book, and by the way, Glenn is a wonderful researcher in American Studies, quotes other authors who are not any more specific-- for example, the footnote you asked about leads us to three other books, all of which (sigh) make the "it was banned in Boston" assertion, with no source, and all of which were written years after the events in question, by which time the story was well embedded in the popular culture. The Arnold Shaw book (one of Altschuler's footnotes) sort of hedges-- he says "several radio stations" said the song was too suggestive (The Rockin' 50s, p. 188). That's all. SO, if it's okay with you, I'm gonna keep researching this. There has to be an actual source that cites names and dates, wouldn't you think?
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Please come comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Michelle Obama/archive3. Hi You reversed an entry I made saying it's not as notable as any others. I'm wondering why it needs to be? Also since the addition of a section for Anthologies wasn't there in the first place, isn't that a good thing ie I'm trying to expand the article as a whole. Please rethink your position on this if you can. WendigoUK ( talk) 20:22, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
I have initiated a discussion here. I want to get this article to good article status eventually, so I feel that having such a long, sparsely referenced alumnus list is unnecessary when there is a main list for that. – Epicgenius ( talk) 14:04, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Could you please explain to me how similar to a source a citation needs to be to count as copyright violation?Hello, I was wondering if there is a more in depth guideline to what constitutes copyright violation than the current Wikipedia page; which is somewhat lacking in the exact specifics. I was wondering if there's a magic number for having the same words as the source, which constitutes copyright violation. According to the page for copyright, "You can use the facts, but unless they are presented without creativity (such as an alphabetical phone directory), you may need to reorganize as well as restate them to avoid substantial similarity infringement." Thanks for your help. Bullets and Bracelets ( talk) 14:09, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I removed the "activepol=yes" parameter because Obama is not running for office, he is not campaigning for re-election, nor is he involved in some current political conflict or controversy as far as I am aware. Therefore surely he meets none of the criteria for that template. — This, that and the other (talk) 08:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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Talk: Barack Obama – for other opinions...is not the subject of this note - wanted to say "Yay" for your comment on Phil Ochs on your user page. Ochs was, is, and will be, the premier singer/songwriter of the '60s. There but for fortune, Randy Kryn 2:08 12 April, 2015 (UTC)
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CommentYou might want to revisit your recent HRC, comment, I don't think you meant "three other editors" You should probably amend before someone takes advantage of the mistake. Alanscottwalker ( talk) 12:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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I noticed that on the Cat Stevens article, that the quote box I set up re: his turn to Islam had a dead link. I feel it is very important to show one transformation and found another suitable quote from the same interview. I've been awful sick these last two years, and would do this myself otherwise... will you help? Help keep the quote box and the contents. The quote can come from here: [27]. If you would merely change the source to keep the quote alive, I'd very much appreciate it!! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:15, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Tvoz- have you noticed the mess in the credits for the Cat Stevens article? Truly. it needs some work. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 10:38, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, my name is Zach and I'm a reporter for National Journal. I'm writing a story on political wikipedia editors and I'd love to talk to you for it. If you're interested, shoot me an email at zmontellaro(at)nationaljournal.com. I'm also happy to answer any questions you have! Zach NJ ( talk) 17:50, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you, Gareth - that's beautiful! Very happy new year to you too! Tvoz/ talk 17:30, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
ñ Crikey! I didn't even realize that I had a new message sitting there - never noticed the little yellow icon hiding at the top of the page. Those full-width yellow banners that were used "back in the day" were impossible to miss... Anyhow - Sure was nice to hear from you, Tina! Best wishes for the new year. :) Cgingold ( talk) 00:39, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Tvoz: now that you have done some fine ce work on Jackie Kennedy and RFK, I hope you will consider ce work on the two Frist Lady articles above. Michelle Obama is GA rated but there has been additions made to it since it passed GA; but, the additions made there have not been to the extent as those to the Laura Bush (2008 GA rated) article; I only gave them a quick look but I think you will see much of the same problems that JKO and RFK had, due to the same editor. Cheers, Kierzek ( talk) 14:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
I think we were both rolling back the changes at the same time. Shsilver ( talk) 05:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the cite for Winger and Arliss leaving Irvington. BMK ( talk) 06:42, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
On the Cat Stevens talk page, I have responded to your action of (twice) reverting my edit on Yusuf Islam's support of the fatwa to murder novelist Salman Rushdie. Arrivisto ( talk) 11:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC) Did you make the Ann Dunham Story need it for a bibliography and soon due Friday. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:367C:1FE0:55BA:2E29:5608:D1D1 ( talk) 04:00, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi- I'm still really ill, so my edits are minimal, but perhaps you can use this for the Cat Stevens biography. I prefer whenever possible to find print media discussing the video to cite the info. since often the videos --even the most acceptable- aren't always dependable. Anyway, I bumped into this, and haven't even listened to all of this: [28] If you leave me answers to any discussion, do so on my talk page. Oh! There is quite more in the video than I had guessed. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 20:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Tvoz- I have been sick again-- 3 hospitalizations in 2 months. Also moved to another apt. during this time. Just got the computer set up but without sound.. if my email is at outlook.com, I think I should be able to receive it, but will soon drop all my email addresses because someone gave a virus into my other email account, so I am using caution... -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 05:03, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Tvoz- don't know what to do with this, but it includes Alun Davies so.. it's here [29]. It is a cover tune, but well done. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 02:22, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
You do not know what I do about the Kent Shooting Incident, do not refer to my edits as vandalism pal. I didn't create a frickin dorky wikipedia account and use part of my day to edit an event in our nation's history just for the heck of it. Let me know when you get the scoop about this event from a reliable unbiased source. Until then go use you time editing some more wiki pages bro.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennis J. Hoekzema ( talk • contribs) 16:15, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Did you get that photo placed? I suggest User:We hope who knows far more than I when it comes to photos. When I feel better, she (I think it's a "she") agreed to assist teaching me. Love you, you know.. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 11:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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I found it in the text of an article ( Amy Lee), but removed it as copyright violation: |title=Evanescence's Amy Lee Plays 'Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?' Perhaps you, or another editor you know might be willing to take on this item? -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 17:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Hi Tvoz-- Just a note to wish you a merry Festivus! Hope life is good for you! -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 13:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Special:Diff/761607722 what's a verdtape ⁓ Hello 71 14:43, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Don't put political opinions in edit summaries.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:29, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Excuse me, but are you two serious? This argument is a ridiculous waste of time and space, on an extremely small point. My opinion, as one of the longtime lead editors here? The neutral "candidate". I think we should move on. Tvoz/ talk 05:34, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I just want to send you greetings from Northern Europe where I have been living for almost all of my life. I still remember the day when I got to know Phil Ochs was dead and I had noone to share my sadness with. Still feel sad about it. Nobody else but me did know him amongst my friends in Stockholm. But he was present in Western Berlin in the late 1960s at a political meeting my brother and I had attended and actually we went to a pub afterwards together where we had some beer, I suppose. I was very young then and probably didn't drink any, but I still remember Phil sitting there, plucking his guitar strings almost all of the time, singing softly. To me he always was one of the greatest. Still is, unforgotten and I simply had to share it with somebody this time. I cherish the memory. Love your work on the Wikipedia about him! Thank you, love from Elchjägerin ( talk) 15:22, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
So I know you don't like me or any of my edits, but I'm having a hard time understanding a recent rejection a draft of mine I got: /info/en/?search=Draft:Early_life_of_John_F._Kennedy Maybe I'm retarded, but I always thought the reason for a sub article on a topic was if the subject had enough material to warrant it. - Informant16 May 25, 2017
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Please provide a link to the discussion you keep referring to. Thank you, - FlightTime ( open channel) 02:19, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
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Talk:Barack Obama Re this: please keep in mind the "Consensus required" restriction detailed on the talk page, and join in the discussion at Talk:Brett Kavanaugh#400 law_professors -- unintended revert? ~ Awilley ( talk) 02:20, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Mr Obama was a “Senior Lecturer” at The Univ of Chicago Law School, not a professor. He is a controversial figure in American history, and we should strive for utmost accuracy to avoid counterproductive partisanship. Thanks! https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.128.14.51 ( talk) 02:53, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.128.14.51 ( talk) 02:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Great hearing from you. Re this: Hey B - actually Henry Laufer is indeed class of 62 and is notable enough for a wiki article - but I don't have a good source for the Science bit. Also suspect that his PhD was later than 65 - that would be 3 years for undergrad and grad and I doubt that. I'll keep looking for sourcing other than personal knowledge. :) All best Tvoz/talk 23:48, 4 February 2019 (UTC) ME:I was 3 years earlier. Don't remember anything about Laufer. Should I? I gather you've done a Google search and Google scholar. <3 Bellagio99 ( talk) 00:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello Tvoz!Thanks for taking a look at the notes I left. As far as the final line, I really do believe it is fabricated. It isn't present in the transcript or audio, as I said. I think it warrants another look, if you are willing. To quote myself, ៛MSIS
Tvoz, might you consider archiving your talk page? SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC) User:Therapyisgood has nominated Barack Obama for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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I'm Australian. Our version of English is very close to British English. My English teachers insisted that a trio is a singular entity, and a band is a singular entity, so that the words you changed were right in the view of those teachers. Note that I used the word "is" there, twice, and I'm pretty sure it's correct. Where does the convention you are referring to come from? HiLo48 ( talk) 06:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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