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* {{User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects|WikiProject_Canadian_music|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canadian_music/Unreferenced BLPs}}
Did not work. Maybe because this project doesn't have a category? Okip 03:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Great work Tim, I am going to propose (somewhere, Village Pump perhaps?) that this becomes MANDATORY for all projects. For now though, I have a couple of suggestions:
For some reason, not every wikiproject which uses this bot is shown on this list.
Okip 06:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I messaged most of the projects using User:WolterBot, asking them if they wanted to opt out, to add their name below. I will then add all of these projects which do not opt out to this page in a couple of days.
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Okip 06:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
If you would not like User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects please see User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Instructions#Opting_out_Instructions. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 19:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Currently the template states:
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Can this be changed to:
![]() | This is a page created by a bot. This page lists Unreferenced living people articles ( BLPs) in Category:WikiProject Cricket articles. To stop this bot from adding future updates on this page, please remove your wikiproject from the list here. This page was last updated 04/05/2024 |
Okip 07:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Current:
To have DASHBot update lists of partially referenced biographies of living persons (that are tagged as unreferenced) for your Wikiproject, simply add the following to the list below. {{User:DASHBot/Wikiproject|Your wikiproject category which lists article talk pages|Page where you want the bot to put the list}}
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Proposed:
To have DASHBot update lists of partially referenced biographies of living persons (that are tagged as unreferenced) for your Wikiproject, simply add the following to the list below. {{User:DASHBot/Wikiproject|Your wikiproject category which lists article talk pages}} [1] |
This has several advantages. First it creates more conformity, second, the instructions are easier to understand.
I am attempting to figure out the coding to make this possible for
User:DASHBot/Wikiproject here:
User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiproject#if_then. The question is if this new coding will mess up the bot.
Maybe we can simply make the bot only update on /Unreferenced BLPs? Okip 08:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for the notification at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Slovenia regarding the new bot. Will the list be indeed provided at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Slovenia/Unreferenced BLPs (as you have written) or was this perhaps a mistake and it will be actually provided at Wikipedia:WikiProject Slovenia/Unreferenced BLPs (as with the 'Cricket' example)? Thanks for reply. -- Eleassar my talk 09:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Could the bot list the total number in the edit summary when it is updating the list? Rettetast ( talk) 13:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
From User talk:Okip and User talk:Peregrine Fisher:
Howdy friend. When do those redlinked /Unreferenced BLPs pages get turned into blue links? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) 22:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Step 1:
Editors or bot adds a wikiproject template to hundreds of article talk pages related to the project |
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Editor adds wikiproject to User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects |
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User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects bot matches all articles with wikiproject category and Category:Unreferenced BLPs [1] |
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After finding articles with these two categories, the bot automatically updates list on the special wikiproject page /Unreferenced BLPs page daily. | |
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Example | User:SatyrBot bot adds: {{ WP Australia}} to Talk:Simon Yanis. [5] [2] |
User:The-Pope adds
* {{User:DASHBot/Wikiproject|WikiProject Australia articles|Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/DashBot unreferenced BLPs}} ...to User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects. [6] |
User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects matches Category:WikiProject Australia articles found on Talk:Simon Yanis with Category:Unreferenced BLPs found on Simon Yanis. [3] | User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects adds Simon Yanis to Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/DashBot unreferenced BLPs. [7] |
Category talk:WikiProject tagging bots Okip 04:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Your project uses User:WolterBot, which occasionally gives your project maintenance-related listings. User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects provides a list, updated daily, of unreferenced living people articles ( BLPs) related to your project. Here is an example of a project which uses User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects: There has been a lot of discussion recently about deleting these unreferenced articles, so it is important that these articles are referenced. The unreferenced living people articles related to your project will be found here: /Unreferenced BLPs. If you do not want this wikiproject to participate, please add your project name to this list. |
Hi. You left this link at WikiProject Scotland:
It is clearly the wrong one. Do you have the correct link, so that I can get working on some refs? Thanks. -- Mais oui! ( talk) 10:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the confusion.
Okip 02:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Do all of the articles have to be in one category or can they be sorted into subcategories? The reason I ask is because we don't want to populate the main category Category:WikiProject Anime and manga articles because it would make the category harder to navigate. However, the articles are populate in one of many subcategories, based on various flag set by the banner. When the bot ran this morning, it gave me an empty result. — Farix ( t | c) 21:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
User:Xeno using User:Xenobot Mk V created: Category:Automatically assessed Toronto articles. I asked him to comment on this also. Okip 04:13, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Could someone check the listing for WikiProject China on the main page and confirm that it's going to work? This wildcard thing is really confusing. Also, WPCHINA was apparently added without permission from our project, and incorrectly, so it was not picking up any articles previously.-- Danaman5 ( talk) 09:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
For projects using templates to find unreferenced BLPs, does the bot also look at redirects to the banner? For example, the name of the banner for Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine is {{ WPMED}}. However, {{ WikiProject Medicine}}, a redirect to {{ WPMED}}, is sometimes used. Will the bot pick up unreferenced BLPs tagged with {{ WikiProject Medicine}}? Thanks. -- Scott Alter 22:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I just realized that the category page on many projects is incorrect. Also the DASHbot does not search subcategories, so it will not search:
Category:WikiProject_Israel_articles which is a subcategory of Category:WikiProject_Israel
I will remove these listings to fix them right now. Okip 05:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
You posted a section on WikiProject Chess with a link to unsourced BLP's. The link remains a Red-Link, does that mean the bot hasn't found any or the run has not happened? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 12:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
...I've noted your message at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sociology#Unreferenced_living_people_articles_bot. Btw, your message point to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology/Unreferenced BLPs - shouldn't it point to Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Unreferenced BLPs? In any case, isn't there a way to use an old dump to populate that list? I know there are unreferenced sociology BLPs, I just referenced one or two :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
RE: Gauri Shankar
I added the unreferenced tag on 01:40, 28 March 2010, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Chess/Unreferenced BLPs is still empty.
Tim, is it possible to make the bot dependent on the project banner's transclusions instead of categories as per: User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#Subcategories? This may solve many of the problems. Okip 12:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey, i just want to say that i appreciate your efforts on addressing BLP and getting notice to the wikiprojects about BLP issues in their area, such as by your posting Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Historic sites#Unreferenced living people articles bot at wt:HSITES. There, by the way, i was trying already for the wikiproject to take on some portion of the BLP problem, by addressing architects, see [[ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Historic sites#BLPs further above. Me and another editor addressed all the architects we could find in the BLP problem. There are, however, few if any people articles tagged by the wikiproject, and zero hits on the BLP issue directly.
And then just a while ago i was browsing in the BLP unreferenced category, and pick one randomly Ken Atkinson, who turns out to be a Canadian politician, totally unsourced article, and article not tagged by WikiProject Canada. It seems there are thousands of Canadian politician articles that could/should be tagged, and could/should be under responsibility of that project. I posted at Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board#Canadian politicians and BLPunreferenced issue; could u take a look there?
And like for wt:HSITES and wt:NRHP and wt:SYR and wt:CAPDIS and other wikiprojects that i have some association with, it occurs to me that they do not take very expansive positions on tagging people associated with them. Maybe the BLP issue could be addressed better, by calling for these and other wikiprojects to step in and take more ownership/responsibility. And then the bot notice would have more effectiveness. Those are my late night thoughts. :) Regards. -- doncram ( talk) 03:25, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I dropped WP:Warwickshire into the list a couple of days ago but have had no output, appears to be the only one one the page not to have had a listing. is there a problem with the set-up? Keith D ( talk) 10:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
I added WP:WORCS a week or so ago - it was among of the fisrt to be submitted- after creating the project page to receive the list. The DASHbot entry seems to have disappeared. What did I do wrong?-- Kudpung ( talk) 17:06, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Still no list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Gender Studies/Feminism Task Force/Unreferenced BLPs. Did we get excluded somehow? Kaldari ( talk) 16:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I haven't got around to adding the wikiprojects, sorry. Okip 08:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Note that WP:ANIME's list hasn't been updated since the 4th, in spite of being listed at User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates since that page was created on the 3rd. Is the bot actually reading that page yet? 「 ダイノガイ 千?!」 ? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Piotrus notified me of the newest wolterbot stats, [10] Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sociology/Cleanup_listing#BLP_articles_lacking_sources, compiled on 22:26, 23 March 2010.
He stated:
Currently the bot list depends on categories. I believe this can be fixed by the new template dependent bot which Tim just made, User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates, based on suggestions above #Subcategories. I will try it out. Okip 22:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
With User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects wildcards work. The bot lists articles in a wikiproject by category, for example:
Category:* Germany articles
Do wildcards work for a bot to list certain subcategories in a template?
I am trying to creating the more reliable list at User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates
How do I list about the templates in Template:WPBiography#Extended_usage on User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates?
When listing wikiprojects on User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates, do wildcards work for subcategories in templates?
For example, to have the bot list all templates with have a&e in them like:
{{WPBiography|living=yes|class=stub|a&e-work-group=yes|needs-infobox=yes|listas=108}}
could I use
Template:WPBiography*a&e*?
Template:WPBiography#Extended_usage look like this on the talk pages:
On User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment is listed as:
Which creates:
From this category:
In the template: Template:WPBiography#Extended_usage there are two subcategories for this wikiproject:
So how would I list this on User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates:
Template:WPBiography*a&e*
...using wildcards, work?
I also ask this question at: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#wildcards_for_template_subcategories
Okip 01:00, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Okip, I have been busy with school and such. Unfortunately with templates, the bot can only see the name of the template, and none of the parameters. This is because the bot uses wikipedia's SQL dabase. Anyways, I think instead of moving all the projects to the /Templates page, we should use that page only for the wikiprojects that do not have a main category. Just an idea, but my philosophy is: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Please list all other concerns on my talk page. I have a lot to respond to right now :) . Tim1357 ( talk) 21:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Tim. I also have not edited much, which shows in the many things which have been left undone here. My philosphy is "if it isn't working at 100%, try and fix it" but I understand and respect how most people disagree, especially since I usually break it in the process :) Respecting the impatient views here, I have stopped tinkering with it. I may pick up with it later...but do it more carefully. Okip 21:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi, this edit [11] removed all 213 unreferenced BLPs from the above page. –– Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:29, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I gave up on this tonight, and removed all the wikiprojects on the newer list, so there will be no problems, I will look at this later. Okip 01:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
The templates which show up in blue here are incorrect templates.
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Hi, Tim and Okip! I left a message at User talk:Tim1357/Archive 4#DashBot working?, but haven't heard anything... Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Unreferenced BLPs hasn't been updated in two weeks. Is there something I need to do to get the bot to do our project again? -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 00:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
see below - withdrawn
It would have been nice to have used the template directly as the trigger for inclusion, but we've gone down the category path, and we might as well stick with it - at least for the existing projects that are tracking their numbers correctly. It's ok to try to do a workaround using wildcards, but why not just set your project up suitably for this task. To any project that doesn't have all of their articles in a single top level category, well, why not?? Just change your template to make it happen. Comments above about "not wanting to fill up your cat with all the articles" are irrelevant - what do you use the
Category:WikiProject Foo articles for otherwise that needs to have only a few members? It's good enough for
WP:Biography to have all 780,000 articles in
Category:WikiProject_Biography_articles then what are the rest of you whinging about? (if someone knows that doing this from a server/database point of view is bad, then let me know, but I can't see any downside).
WP:Australia didn't have
Category:WikiProject Australia articles populated - it was just holding the by importance/quality subcats, until I realised how useful it would be for this task. I got it added to the template and a day later this list worked flawlessly.
The-Pope (
talk) 05:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::That is my point - "didn't want to use an "articles" category, for whatever reason" isn't good enough any more if it means we get into a mess here. There was a discussion last year, or maybe the year before, the removed
Category:WikiProject Australia articles from the {{WP Australia}} template, because no one could see a use for having a 70,000 article cat. Well now we have a reason, and in the month or so since it was re-added, no one has complained about it. Tim [and Okip] have done a great job, we should work with what already works, not keep pushing him to adapt to match every project's whims.
The-Pope (
talk) 22:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi need this done for unref BLPS for WP:OK But im not sure how to do it.-- Steam Iron 00:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
OK, I'll admit I didn't read all of the above - I just saw the effect on the lists with them going to zero and being reverted etc. I apologise to all and will help move past this. I really think that the wildcard method should not be used - it's too variable in its results. If there is any "category method" project that is coming up with zeros, check the "articles" category and if it has no articles, then move your project to the template method. Otherwise leave it as is.
There are a bunch of ideas above, and it would be confusing for people coming here without much backgroud - and the simple instructions on the actual pages may be too simplified - so should we put something similar to the following somewhere prominent - maybe on some of the new UBLP related projects?
But Tim, whichever method we use it doesn't seem to be working at the moment. The-Pope ( talk) 13:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC) The-Pope ( talk) 13:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by The-Pope ( talk • contribs) 13:22, 12 April 2010
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* {{User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects|WikiProject_Canadian_music|Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canadian_music/Unreferenced BLPs}}
Did not work. Maybe because this project doesn't have a category? Okip 03:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Great work Tim, I am going to propose (somewhere, Village Pump perhaps?) that this becomes MANDATORY for all projects. For now though, I have a couple of suggestions:
For some reason, not every wikiproject which uses this bot is shown on this list.
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Okip 06:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I messaged most of the projects using User:WolterBot, asking them if they wanted to opt out, to add their name below. I will then add all of these projects which do not opt out to this page in a couple of days.
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Okip 06:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
If you would not like User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects please see User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Instructions#Opting_out_Instructions. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 19:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Currently the template states:
![]() | This is a bot populated page of Unreferenced BLPs in Category:WikiProject Cricket articles. To stop updates, please remove your wikiproject from the list here. This page was last updated 04/05/2024 |
Can this be changed to:
![]() | This is a page created by a bot. This page lists Unreferenced living people articles ( BLPs) in Category:WikiProject Cricket articles. To stop this bot from adding future updates on this page, please remove your wikiproject from the list here. This page was last updated 04/05/2024 |
Okip 07:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Current:
To have DASHBot update lists of partially referenced biographies of living persons (that are tagged as unreferenced) for your Wikiproject, simply add the following to the list below. {{User:DASHBot/Wikiproject|Your wikiproject category which lists article talk pages|Page where you want the bot to put the list}}
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Proposed:
To have DASHBot update lists of partially referenced biographies of living persons (that are tagged as unreferenced) for your Wikiproject, simply add the following to the list below. {{User:DASHBot/Wikiproject|Your wikiproject category which lists article talk pages}} [1] |
This has several advantages. First it creates more conformity, second, the instructions are easier to understand.
I am attempting to figure out the coding to make this possible for
User:DASHBot/Wikiproject here:
User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiproject#if_then. The question is if this new coding will mess up the bot.
Maybe we can simply make the bot only update on /Unreferenced BLPs? Okip 08:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for the notification at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Slovenia regarding the new bot. Will the list be indeed provided at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Slovenia/Unreferenced BLPs (as you have written) or was this perhaps a mistake and it will be actually provided at Wikipedia:WikiProject Slovenia/Unreferenced BLPs (as with the 'Cricket' example)? Thanks for reply. -- Eleassar my talk 09:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Could the bot list the total number in the edit summary when it is updating the list? Rettetast ( talk) 13:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
From User talk:Okip and User talk:Peregrine Fisher:
Howdy friend. When do those redlinked /Unreferenced BLPs pages get turned into blue links? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) 22:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Step 1:
Editors or bot adds a wikiproject template to hundreds of article talk pages related to the project |
Step 2:
Editor adds wikiproject to User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects |
Step 3:
User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects bot matches all articles with wikiproject category and Category:Unreferenced BLPs [1] |
Step 4:
After finding articles with these two categories, the bot automatically updates list on the special wikiproject page /Unreferenced BLPs page daily. | |
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Example | User:SatyrBot bot adds: {{ WP Australia}} to Talk:Simon Yanis. [5] [2] |
User:The-Pope adds
* {{User:DASHBot/Wikiproject|WikiProject Australia articles|Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/DashBot unreferenced BLPs}} ...to User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects. [6] |
User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects matches Category:WikiProject Australia articles found on Talk:Simon Yanis with Category:Unreferenced BLPs found on Simon Yanis. [3] | User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects adds Simon Yanis to Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/DashBot unreferenced BLPs. [7] |
Category talk:WikiProject tagging bots Okip 04:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Your project uses User:WolterBot, which occasionally gives your project maintenance-related listings. User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects provides a list, updated daily, of unreferenced living people articles ( BLPs) related to your project. Here is an example of a project which uses User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects: There has been a lot of discussion recently about deleting these unreferenced articles, so it is important that these articles are referenced. The unreferenced living people articles related to your project will be found here: /Unreferenced BLPs. If you do not want this wikiproject to participate, please add your project name to this list. |
Hi. You left this link at WikiProject Scotland:
It is clearly the wrong one. Do you have the correct link, so that I can get working on some refs? Thanks. -- Mais oui! ( talk) 10:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the confusion.
Okip 02:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Do all of the articles have to be in one category or can they be sorted into subcategories? The reason I ask is because we don't want to populate the main category Category:WikiProject Anime and manga articles because it would make the category harder to navigate. However, the articles are populate in one of many subcategories, based on various flag set by the banner. When the bot ran this morning, it gave me an empty result. — Farix ( t | c) 21:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
User:Xeno using User:Xenobot Mk V created: Category:Automatically assessed Toronto articles. I asked him to comment on this also. Okip 04:13, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Could someone check the listing for WikiProject China on the main page and confirm that it's going to work? This wildcard thing is really confusing. Also, WPCHINA was apparently added without permission from our project, and incorrectly, so it was not picking up any articles previously.-- Danaman5 ( talk) 09:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
For projects using templates to find unreferenced BLPs, does the bot also look at redirects to the banner? For example, the name of the banner for Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine is {{ WPMED}}. However, {{ WikiProject Medicine}}, a redirect to {{ WPMED}}, is sometimes used. Will the bot pick up unreferenced BLPs tagged with {{ WikiProject Medicine}}? Thanks. -- Scott Alter 22:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I just realized that the category page on many projects is incorrect. Also the DASHbot does not search subcategories, so it will not search:
Category:WikiProject_Israel_articles which is a subcategory of Category:WikiProject_Israel
I will remove these listings to fix them right now. Okip 05:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
You posted a section on WikiProject Chess with a link to unsourced BLP's. The link remains a Red-Link, does that mean the bot hasn't found any or the run has not happened? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 12:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
...I've noted your message at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sociology#Unreferenced_living_people_articles_bot. Btw, your message point to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology/Unreferenced BLPs - shouldn't it point to Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology/Unreferenced BLPs? In any case, isn't there a way to use an old dump to populate that list? I know there are unreferenced sociology BLPs, I just referenced one or two :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
RE: Gauri Shankar
I added the unreferenced tag on 01:40, 28 March 2010, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Chess/Unreferenced BLPs is still empty.
Tim, is it possible to make the bot dependent on the project banner's transclusions instead of categories as per: User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#Subcategories? This may solve many of the problems. Okip 12:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey, i just want to say that i appreciate your efforts on addressing BLP and getting notice to the wikiprojects about BLP issues in their area, such as by your posting Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Historic sites#Unreferenced living people articles bot at wt:HSITES. There, by the way, i was trying already for the wikiproject to take on some portion of the BLP problem, by addressing architects, see [[ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Historic sites#BLPs further above. Me and another editor addressed all the architects we could find in the BLP problem. There are, however, few if any people articles tagged by the wikiproject, and zero hits on the BLP issue directly.
And then just a while ago i was browsing in the BLP unreferenced category, and pick one randomly Ken Atkinson, who turns out to be a Canadian politician, totally unsourced article, and article not tagged by WikiProject Canada. It seems there are thousands of Canadian politician articles that could/should be tagged, and could/should be under responsibility of that project. I posted at Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board#Canadian politicians and BLPunreferenced issue; could u take a look there?
And like for wt:HSITES and wt:NRHP and wt:SYR and wt:CAPDIS and other wikiprojects that i have some association with, it occurs to me that they do not take very expansive positions on tagging people associated with them. Maybe the BLP issue could be addressed better, by calling for these and other wikiprojects to step in and take more ownership/responsibility. And then the bot notice would have more effectiveness. Those are my late night thoughts. :) Regards. -- doncram ( talk) 03:25, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I dropped WP:Warwickshire into the list a couple of days ago but have had no output, appears to be the only one one the page not to have had a listing. is there a problem with the set-up? Keith D ( talk) 10:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
I added WP:WORCS a week or so ago - it was among of the fisrt to be submitted- after creating the project page to receive the list. The DASHbot entry seems to have disappeared. What did I do wrong?-- Kudpung ( talk) 17:06, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Still no list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Gender Studies/Feminism Task Force/Unreferenced BLPs. Did we get excluded somehow? Kaldari ( talk) 16:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I haven't got around to adding the wikiprojects, sorry. Okip 08:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Note that WP:ANIME's list hasn't been updated since the 4th, in spite of being listed at User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates since that page was created on the 3rd. Is the bot actually reading that page yet? 「 ダイノガイ 千?!」 ? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Piotrus notified me of the newest wolterbot stats, [10] Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sociology/Cleanup_listing#BLP_articles_lacking_sources, compiled on 22:26, 23 March 2010.
He stated:
Currently the bot list depends on categories. I believe this can be fixed by the new template dependent bot which Tim just made, User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates, based on suggestions above #Subcategories. I will try it out. Okip 22:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
With User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects wildcards work. The bot lists articles in a wikiproject by category, for example:
Category:* Germany articles
Do wildcards work for a bot to list certain subcategories in a template?
I am trying to creating the more reliable list at User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates
How do I list about the templates in Template:WPBiography#Extended_usage on User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates?
When listing wikiprojects on User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates, do wildcards work for subcategories in templates?
For example, to have the bot list all templates with have a&e in them like:
{{WPBiography|living=yes|class=stub|a&e-work-group=yes|needs-infobox=yes|listas=108}}
could I use
Template:WPBiography*a&e*?
Template:WPBiography#Extended_usage look like this on the talk pages:
On User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment is listed as:
Which creates:
From this category:
In the template: Template:WPBiography#Extended_usage there are two subcategories for this wikiproject:
So how would I list this on User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates:
Template:WPBiography*a&e*
...using wildcards, work?
I also ask this question at: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#wildcards_for_template_subcategories
Okip 01:00, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Okip, I have been busy with school and such. Unfortunately with templates, the bot can only see the name of the template, and none of the parameters. This is because the bot uses wikipedia's SQL dabase. Anyways, I think instead of moving all the projects to the /Templates page, we should use that page only for the wikiprojects that do not have a main category. Just an idea, but my philosophy is: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Please list all other concerns on my talk page. I have a lot to respond to right now :) . Tim1357 ( talk) 21:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Tim. I also have not edited much, which shows in the many things which have been left undone here. My philosphy is "if it isn't working at 100%, try and fix it" but I understand and respect how most people disagree, especially since I usually break it in the process :) Respecting the impatient views here, I have stopped tinkering with it. I may pick up with it later...but do it more carefully. Okip 21:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi, this edit [11] removed all 213 unreferenced BLPs from the above page. –– Jezhotwells ( talk) 00:29, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I gave up on this tonight, and removed all the wikiprojects on the newer list, so there will be no problems, I will look at this later. Okip 01:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
The templates which show up in blue here are incorrect templates.
Here are the redlinked removed from User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates |
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Hi, Tim and Okip! I left a message at User talk:Tim1357/Archive 4#DashBot working?, but haven't heard anything... Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Unreferenced BLPs hasn't been updated in two weeks. Is there something I need to do to get the bot to do our project again? -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 00:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
see below - withdrawn
It would have been nice to have used the template directly as the trigger for inclusion, but we've gone down the category path, and we might as well stick with it - at least for the existing projects that are tracking their numbers correctly. It's ok to try to do a workaround using wildcards, but why not just set your project up suitably for this task. To any project that doesn't have all of their articles in a single top level category, well, why not?? Just change your template to make it happen. Comments above about "not wanting to fill up your cat with all the articles" are irrelevant - what do you use the
Category:WikiProject Foo articles for otherwise that needs to have only a few members? It's good enough for
WP:Biography to have all 780,000 articles in
Category:WikiProject_Biography_articles then what are the rest of you whinging about? (if someone knows that doing this from a server/database point of view is bad, then let me know, but I can't see any downside).
WP:Australia didn't have
Category:WikiProject Australia articles populated - it was just holding the by importance/quality subcats, until I realised how useful it would be for this task. I got it added to the template and a day later this list worked flawlessly.
The-Pope (
talk) 05:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::That is my point - "didn't want to use an "articles" category, for whatever reason" isn't good enough any more if it means we get into a mess here. There was a discussion last year, or maybe the year before, the removed
Category:WikiProject Australia articles from the {{WP Australia}} template, because no one could see a use for having a 70,000 article cat. Well now we have a reason, and in the month or so since it was re-added, no one has complained about it. Tim [and Okip] have done a great job, we should work with what already works, not keep pushing him to adapt to match every project's whims.
The-Pope (
talk) 22:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi need this done for unref BLPS for WP:OK But im not sure how to do it.-- Steam Iron 00:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
OK, I'll admit I didn't read all of the above - I just saw the effect on the lists with them going to zero and being reverted etc. I apologise to all and will help move past this. I really think that the wildcard method should not be used - it's too variable in its results. If there is any "category method" project that is coming up with zeros, check the "articles" category and if it has no articles, then move your project to the template method. Otherwise leave it as is.
There are a bunch of ideas above, and it would be confusing for people coming here without much backgroud - and the simple instructions on the actual pages may be too simplified - so should we put something similar to the following somewhere prominent - maybe on some of the new UBLP related projects?
But Tim, whichever method we use it doesn't seem to be working at the moment. The-Pope ( talk) 13:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC) The-Pope ( talk) 13:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by The-Pope ( talk • contribs) 13:22, 12 April 2010