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A "list of Australian Touring Car Championship/ V8 Supercars drivers" page is currently being constructed here, any assistance to help fill out the page faster (and accurately) would be appreciated. I do ask however that stats up to the end of 2023 are used, with 2024 (or beyond if it takes longer) stats/debutants added after it becomes an article. Please do not move to the draftspace as it's a broken system. MSportWiki ( talk) 12:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
I am in process of improving Autocross. There is no such thing as 'British Autocross', 'Australian Autocross' etc. Autocross is autocross with usual differences across borders and there is no need for multiple articles. However, as usual there is a slight difference with autocross in the USA, where it is trade marked as Solo or NASA-X by the different bodies. I would expect to upset people with a bold move with this, and on wikidata Autocross (USA) is already down as comparable to autoslalom elsewhere. I invite comments on whether to:
Related with hope to improve language links:
I hope this all makes sense. I'm not entirely sure of the technical process either so would appreciate comments. Rally Wonk ( talk) 20:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
I am posting this since my two split proposal has been removed.
My issue with that article is that it is suffering from an identity crisis. What does it wants to be? Does it want to be about the headline F3 race as it is known as? Does it want to be about the so-called festivities that doesn’t exist, which it tries to be.
We have an article about the race consisting of bits about support races. This is the other issues we have with that article.
If we were to keep those, do we create articles about the 24h of Le Mans with extra bits about support races? Do we add bits about any F1 GP rounds with subsections about support races? This race has always been and should be about the headline F3 race, not anything else, not the touring car race, not the motorcycle nor the GT race. They belong to separate articles.
Bits about support races should not belong there.
If you want it to be about the headline race, then get rid of the sections about the support races, it makes no sense to keep them, plus an article about the Guia race exists. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 15:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
For me splitting the article would be a terrible solution with the common user not knowing what is Macau GP is. I think only one think needs to be changed: the lead: Macau GP is not "a race (1 race)" its a series of events during 2 weekends (currently). Should be replaced by something like "is a motor racing event" like we have in [ [1]]. The fact that the article was about F3 and now was moved towards more Touring Car and GT is explained by the changes that the event suffered through time: there was a time that F3 race was with no doubt the most mediatic one, with WTCC it became the one with more mediatic coverage, and with the end o WTCC and the creation of FIA GT World Cup, with so many manufacturers and top drivres, currently this is the race that gets more atention from the media and has more drivers known by readers and spectators. Its not like F1 where people are there just for F1 and the others races are just to fill the gaps and barely no one would watch the races by themselves (I do). And yes, a Grand Prix might not be just one race, like every (or most) MotoGP event article has the results of all races that happened on that weekend. So I think the article has room to improve, to make it less confuse, but splitting it would be worse than keeping it together. Rpo.castro ( talk) 10:26, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I'm guessing that you're mostly and open-wheel racing fan when it comes to motorsports and that's probably why you are mostly interested in the Formula racing part of the Macau Grand Prix.
Should the NASCAR and IMSA articles have hatnotes linking to their respective premier series? Here and here are examples of what I am proposing, and the IndyCar article already has a similar hatnote. WP:HATNOTERULES states that "if a notable topic X is commonly referred to as 'Foo', but the article 'Foo' is not about X, there must be a hatnote linking to the article on X". I think this seems to apply to both NASCAR and IMSA since their premier series seem to be commonly referred to simply by the name of the sanctioning body (some examples: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]), although there was some disagreement about this on this discussion on a user talk page, so I am proposing it here to get input from other editors. Carfan568 ( talk) 21:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
(Copied from /info/en/?search=Template_talk:Infobox_motorsport_venue as seems dead) Suggest removing this as in most places it is misused - with only one timezone listed and most venues will use 2 timezones 90.241.211.138 ( talk) 10:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I would appreciate any interested editors to contribute to the discussion at Talk:Australian Grand Prix#Proposed removal of Formula 3 section. Thanks. A7V2 ( talk) 23:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
WikiProject Motorsport page. |
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Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25Auto-archiving period: 30 days |
This WikiProject was featured on the WikiProject report at the Signpost on 2 July 2012. |
Motorsport NA‑class | |||||||
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A "list of Australian Touring Car Championship/ V8 Supercars drivers" page is currently being constructed here, any assistance to help fill out the page faster (and accurately) would be appreciated. I do ask however that stats up to the end of 2023 are used, with 2024 (or beyond if it takes longer) stats/debutants added after it becomes an article. Please do not move to the draftspace as it's a broken system. MSportWiki ( talk) 12:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
I am in process of improving Autocross. There is no such thing as 'British Autocross', 'Australian Autocross' etc. Autocross is autocross with usual differences across borders and there is no need for multiple articles. However, as usual there is a slight difference with autocross in the USA, where it is trade marked as Solo or NASA-X by the different bodies. I would expect to upset people with a bold move with this, and on wikidata Autocross (USA) is already down as comparable to autoslalom elsewhere. I invite comments on whether to:
Related with hope to improve language links:
I hope this all makes sense. I'm not entirely sure of the technical process either so would appreciate comments. Rally Wonk ( talk) 20:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
I am posting this since my two split proposal has been removed.
My issue with that article is that it is suffering from an identity crisis. What does it wants to be? Does it want to be about the headline F3 race as it is known as? Does it want to be about the so-called festivities that doesn’t exist, which it tries to be.
We have an article about the race consisting of bits about support races. This is the other issues we have with that article.
If we were to keep those, do we create articles about the 24h of Le Mans with extra bits about support races? Do we add bits about any F1 GP rounds with subsections about support races? This race has always been and should be about the headline F3 race, not anything else, not the touring car race, not the motorcycle nor the GT race. They belong to separate articles.
Bits about support races should not belong there.
If you want it to be about the headline race, then get rid of the sections about the support races, it makes no sense to keep them, plus an article about the Guia race exists. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 15:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
For me splitting the article would be a terrible solution with the common user not knowing what is Macau GP is. I think only one think needs to be changed: the lead: Macau GP is not "a race (1 race)" its a series of events during 2 weekends (currently). Should be replaced by something like "is a motor racing event" like we have in [ [1]]. The fact that the article was about F3 and now was moved towards more Touring Car and GT is explained by the changes that the event suffered through time: there was a time that F3 race was with no doubt the most mediatic one, with WTCC it became the one with more mediatic coverage, and with the end o WTCC and the creation of FIA GT World Cup, with so many manufacturers and top drivres, currently this is the race that gets more atention from the media and has more drivers known by readers and spectators. Its not like F1 where people are there just for F1 and the others races are just to fill the gaps and barely no one would watch the races by themselves (I do). And yes, a Grand Prix might not be just one race, like every (or most) MotoGP event article has the results of all races that happened on that weekend. So I think the article has room to improve, to make it less confuse, but splitting it would be worse than keeping it together. Rpo.castro ( talk) 10:26, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I'm guessing that you're mostly and open-wheel racing fan when it comes to motorsports and that's probably why you are mostly interested in the Formula racing part of the Macau Grand Prix.
Should the NASCAR and IMSA articles have hatnotes linking to their respective premier series? Here and here are examples of what I am proposing, and the IndyCar article already has a similar hatnote. WP:HATNOTERULES states that "if a notable topic X is commonly referred to as 'Foo', but the article 'Foo' is not about X, there must be a hatnote linking to the article on X". I think this seems to apply to both NASCAR and IMSA since their premier series seem to be commonly referred to simply by the name of the sanctioning body (some examples: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]), although there was some disagreement about this on this discussion on a user talk page, so I am proposing it here to get input from other editors. Carfan568 ( talk) 21:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
(Copied from /info/en/?search=Template_talk:Infobox_motorsport_venue as seems dead) Suggest removing this as in most places it is misused - with only one timezone listed and most venues will use 2 timezones 90.241.211.138 ( talk) 10:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I would appreciate any interested editors to contribute to the discussion at Talk:Australian Grand Prix#Proposed removal of Formula 3 section. Thanks. A7V2 ( talk) 23:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC)