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I moved a few pages like 1991 NHL dispersal and expansion drafts to lowercase, but then noticed there are a whole bunch of different lines of NHL articles with Draft capitalized. Are any of these consistently capped in sources? Dicklyon ( talk) 22:05, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@ Wordsmith:, @ Amakuru: What's your view? Should the RM route be taken? GoodDay ( talk) 23:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
In light of all the consensus to lowercase "draft" pretty much everywhere (though we haven't talked about "Entry Draft" yet), I leave the KHL Draft and other outlier articles up to y'all. Here's the relevant background where all the issues have been hammered out over and over and over:
I've opened up RMs at KHL Conference Finals & Conference Finals. -- GoodDay ( talk) 16:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
IP editors (likely just one person) keep removing the paragraph stating that Jack Hughes is Jewish. Should we keep just reverting it or should we take other action? Wheatzilopochtli ( talk) 18:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Well, the seemingly impossible happened - the Wild pulled their goalie in OT, got scored on, and forfeited the loser point as a result. Believe it’s the first time it’s ever happened.
It officially goes as an OTL for them, but our standings template automatically counts an OTL as one point - what do we do here? The Kip 22:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
@ SecretName101: recently moved Marty Walsh (ice hockey) to Marty Walsh (ice hockey player), with the rationale that he is ambiguous with Marty Walsh, the leader of the NHLPA. This move goes against Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ice hockey), which says to use year of birth. Any objections to moving it to Marty Walsh (ice hockey, born 1884)? -unsigned comment by User:Flibirigit
@ Flibirigit: No objection. SecretName101 ( talk) 21:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Figure WP:Ice Hockey might be able to give some solid input at this discussion on WP:RS. The Kip 00:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
We use Czechia for the IIHF tournament articles. Shall we start using Czechia for other ice hockey articles, too? GoodDay ( talk) 22:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Just want to inform everybody that an IP editor has been going against various policies/guidelines on Montreal Canadiens-related pages. I have already reported that editor at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing by User:47.54.146.218, but so far no action has been taken. – sbaio 13:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
I've tried for two days, to update the stats at 2023-24 NHL season. The updates show in the boxes separately. But, won't show on the full page. GoodDay ( talk) 02:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Something to keep an eye on. Lots of chatter among the national hockey writers, and also the Coyotes own beat writers, that the Coyotes will be moving to Utah over this off-season (specifically, that the league plans to announce things on this sometime after the last Coyotes regular season game).
Now, we can look back at the Jets / Thrashers relocation in 2011, and see articles and statements from Bettman and other league execs denying the relocation as late as May 25 (the sale and relocation of the Thrashers to Winnipeg would become official on May 31).
Also of note, it looks like the NHL might be willing to grant Coyotes owner Meruelo a "five year window" in which he can basically get the right of first refusal to another Arizona NHL franchise. This might be something like the Browns / Ravens situation from the NFL, where the Browns players and front office were moved to Baltimore in 1995, but the Ravens were deemed to be an "expansion" team, with the Browns records and history staying in Cleveland (the Browns were put into a period of "inactivity" for a few years, resuming operations in 1999). Canuck89 (Speak with me) or visit my user page 20:38, April 12, 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to some digging done by The Kip and according to this article [2] the Coyotes are suspending operations and the players and personnel are going to Salt Lake City as an expansion team. So this is a Browns/Ravens situation and the league will have 33 teams with 32 operational. Deadman137 ( talk) 23:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
For what it's worth (which is not much for the moment), Darren Dreger just tweeted that there will be a Board of Governors call on Thursday (he didn't say what time), though at this time it's unknown whether there'll be a vote on the Coyotes or just an update or something else altogether. 1995hoo ( talk) 19:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
I've opted to draftify Draft:Salt Lake City NHL team, so that we can construct a finished product before rolling it out to the mainspace instead of having a chaotic work-in-progress in mainspace. The Kip 20:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I note that in the main NHL article's list of teams, the Utah team's "join date" has an asterisk after it, which the note below the table says denotes a franchise move. From a realistic standpoint, obviously that's what it is. But from a "legal" standpoint, as discussed above, it's not a relocation in view of the Browns/Ravens situation. I also note that there have been a good number of edits (mostly, I suspect, from one person, given the extreme similarity in edit summaries) to the "Utah NHL team" article that have removed the reference to it being an expansion team. Those edits keep getting reverted, and rightly so. I'm going to remove the asterisk from the table in the main NHL article because I think it could be seen as taking away credibility to call it an expansion team in one place (the team article) and a relocation in another (the main NHL article). I wanted to flag it here because I'm sure it's going to be an ongoing problem. (On a semi-related note, yesterday NHL.com had a press release saying the team will be called the "Utah Something." I'm waiting for someone to edit the Wikipedia article to use that name, claiming a reliable source says that's what it will be.) 1995hoo ( talk) 12:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Sebastian Aho (ice hockey, born 1997) § Requested move 12 April 2024. Wracking talk! 22:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
As seen here. Already taken to SPI. The Kip 15:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
RMs opened at NHL Entry Draft, KHL Conference Finals & Conference Finals, btw. GoodDay ( talk) 02:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Quick heads up for anybody using records.nhl.com to check season goal totals across different articles, something weird is going on with their tabulating software as I came across multiple errors with many different teams. If you need to check numbers for a specific season, use the standings section on nhl.com as that is working correctly. Deadman137 ( talk) 17:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Asking this as a point of clarification for season pages. At 2023-24 NHL season, we have:
Naturally, these two seem logically inconsistent; if we want to standardize, either Matthews is the 22nd individual to accomplish 60 goals and we denote that it's the second time he's done so, or McDavid is the 14th player to accomplish a 100-assist season. Personally, I'm split; the McDavid precedent makes more sense but is harder to spell out, as simply stating "X player did Y, becoming the Zth player to do so" seems like better and more concise wording than something akin to "X player did Y for the second time in his career, the Xth time this has been done in a season."
We've been inconsistent on it in the past; for instance, last season's article had Matthews and Pastrnak listed as being the 41st and 42nd to 60 goals (when individually speaking they were the 22nd and 23rd), but McDavid as the 6th to 150 points (when it was the 17th time 150 had been reached).
So, in short:
For now, I'm changing McDavid's wording to the Matthews interpretation, but I'm open to changing it if better wording can be developed for the alternative. The Kip 05:23, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
References
* On April XX, 2024, Edmonton Oilers forward Connor McDavid recorded his 100th assist of the season, recording the 14th 100-assist season in NHL history, and becoming the 4th individual to reach the mark.
* On April XX, 2024, Edmonton Oilers forward Connor McDavid recorded his 100th assist of the season, becoming the 4th individual to reach the mark, and recording the 14th 100-assist season in NHL history.I might experimentally roll that out on a few season articles. The Kip 21:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
I have added info about Joel Armia's KHL draft in 2011 and the sale of his KHL rights from Severstal to CSKA Moscow in 2018. Armia never played in the KHL (and most likely never will), so i'm just wondering if this info is important enough to include in the article. Feel free to revert my edits on Armia's article if you dont think it should be there. Thanks. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 18:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
If a player has played internationally at the senior level, but not in a tournament, should the national team go in the infobox? Wheatzilopochtli ( talk) 18:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Ice Hockey NA‑class | |||||||
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I moved a few pages like 1991 NHL dispersal and expansion drafts to lowercase, but then noticed there are a whole bunch of different lines of NHL articles with Draft capitalized. Are any of these consistently capped in sources? Dicklyon ( talk) 22:05, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@ Wordsmith:, @ Amakuru: What's your view? Should the RM route be taken? GoodDay ( talk) 23:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
In light of all the consensus to lowercase "draft" pretty much everywhere (though we haven't talked about "Entry Draft" yet), I leave the KHL Draft and other outlier articles up to y'all. Here's the relevant background where all the issues have been hammered out over and over and over:
I've opened up RMs at KHL Conference Finals & Conference Finals. -- GoodDay ( talk) 16:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
IP editors (likely just one person) keep removing the paragraph stating that Jack Hughes is Jewish. Should we keep just reverting it or should we take other action? Wheatzilopochtli ( talk) 18:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Well, the seemingly impossible happened - the Wild pulled their goalie in OT, got scored on, and forfeited the loser point as a result. Believe it’s the first time it’s ever happened.
It officially goes as an OTL for them, but our standings template automatically counts an OTL as one point - what do we do here? The Kip 22:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
@ SecretName101: recently moved Marty Walsh (ice hockey) to Marty Walsh (ice hockey player), with the rationale that he is ambiguous with Marty Walsh, the leader of the NHLPA. This move goes against Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ice hockey), which says to use year of birth. Any objections to moving it to Marty Walsh (ice hockey, born 1884)? -unsigned comment by User:Flibirigit
@ Flibirigit: No objection. SecretName101 ( talk) 21:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Figure WP:Ice Hockey might be able to give some solid input at this discussion on WP:RS. The Kip 00:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
We use Czechia for the IIHF tournament articles. Shall we start using Czechia for other ice hockey articles, too? GoodDay ( talk) 22:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Just want to inform everybody that an IP editor has been going against various policies/guidelines on Montreal Canadiens-related pages. I have already reported that editor at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing by User:47.54.146.218, but so far no action has been taken. – sbaio 13:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
I've tried for two days, to update the stats at 2023-24 NHL season. The updates show in the boxes separately. But, won't show on the full page. GoodDay ( talk) 02:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Something to keep an eye on. Lots of chatter among the national hockey writers, and also the Coyotes own beat writers, that the Coyotes will be moving to Utah over this off-season (specifically, that the league plans to announce things on this sometime after the last Coyotes regular season game).
Now, we can look back at the Jets / Thrashers relocation in 2011, and see articles and statements from Bettman and other league execs denying the relocation as late as May 25 (the sale and relocation of the Thrashers to Winnipeg would become official on May 31).
Also of note, it looks like the NHL might be willing to grant Coyotes owner Meruelo a "five year window" in which he can basically get the right of first refusal to another Arizona NHL franchise. This might be something like the Browns / Ravens situation from the NFL, where the Browns players and front office were moved to Baltimore in 1995, but the Ravens were deemed to be an "expansion" team, with the Browns records and history staying in Cleveland (the Browns were put into a period of "inactivity" for a few years, resuming operations in 1999). Canuck89 (Speak with me) or visit my user page 20:38, April 12, 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to some digging done by The Kip and according to this article [2] the Coyotes are suspending operations and the players and personnel are going to Salt Lake City as an expansion team. So this is a Browns/Ravens situation and the league will have 33 teams with 32 operational. Deadman137 ( talk) 23:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
For what it's worth (which is not much for the moment), Darren Dreger just tweeted that there will be a Board of Governors call on Thursday (he didn't say what time), though at this time it's unknown whether there'll be a vote on the Coyotes or just an update or something else altogether. 1995hoo ( talk) 19:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
I've opted to draftify Draft:Salt Lake City NHL team, so that we can construct a finished product before rolling it out to the mainspace instead of having a chaotic work-in-progress in mainspace. The Kip 20:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I note that in the main NHL article's list of teams, the Utah team's "join date" has an asterisk after it, which the note below the table says denotes a franchise move. From a realistic standpoint, obviously that's what it is. But from a "legal" standpoint, as discussed above, it's not a relocation in view of the Browns/Ravens situation. I also note that there have been a good number of edits (mostly, I suspect, from one person, given the extreme similarity in edit summaries) to the "Utah NHL team" article that have removed the reference to it being an expansion team. Those edits keep getting reverted, and rightly so. I'm going to remove the asterisk from the table in the main NHL article because I think it could be seen as taking away credibility to call it an expansion team in one place (the team article) and a relocation in another (the main NHL article). I wanted to flag it here because I'm sure it's going to be an ongoing problem. (On a semi-related note, yesterday NHL.com had a press release saying the team will be called the "Utah Something." I'm waiting for someone to edit the Wikipedia article to use that name, claiming a reliable source says that's what it will be.) 1995hoo ( talk) 12:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Sebastian Aho (ice hockey, born 1997) § Requested move 12 April 2024. Wracking talk! 22:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
As seen here. Already taken to SPI. The Kip 15:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
RMs opened at NHL Entry Draft, KHL Conference Finals & Conference Finals, btw. GoodDay ( talk) 02:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Quick heads up for anybody using records.nhl.com to check season goal totals across different articles, something weird is going on with their tabulating software as I came across multiple errors with many different teams. If you need to check numbers for a specific season, use the standings section on nhl.com as that is working correctly. Deadman137 ( talk) 17:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Asking this as a point of clarification for season pages. At 2023-24 NHL season, we have:
Naturally, these two seem logically inconsistent; if we want to standardize, either Matthews is the 22nd individual to accomplish 60 goals and we denote that it's the second time he's done so, or McDavid is the 14th player to accomplish a 100-assist season. Personally, I'm split; the McDavid precedent makes more sense but is harder to spell out, as simply stating "X player did Y, becoming the Zth player to do so" seems like better and more concise wording than something akin to "X player did Y for the second time in his career, the Xth time this has been done in a season."
We've been inconsistent on it in the past; for instance, last season's article had Matthews and Pastrnak listed as being the 41st and 42nd to 60 goals (when individually speaking they were the 22nd and 23rd), but McDavid as the 6th to 150 points (when it was the 17th time 150 had been reached).
So, in short:
For now, I'm changing McDavid's wording to the Matthews interpretation, but I'm open to changing it if better wording can be developed for the alternative. The Kip 05:23, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
References
* On April XX, 2024, Edmonton Oilers forward Connor McDavid recorded his 100th assist of the season, recording the 14th 100-assist season in NHL history, and becoming the 4th individual to reach the mark.
* On April XX, 2024, Edmonton Oilers forward Connor McDavid recorded his 100th assist of the season, becoming the 4th individual to reach the mark, and recording the 14th 100-assist season in NHL history.I might experimentally roll that out on a few season articles. The Kip 21:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
I have added info about Joel Armia's KHL draft in 2011 and the sale of his KHL rights from Severstal to CSKA Moscow in 2018. Armia never played in the KHL (and most likely never will), so i'm just wondering if this info is important enough to include in the article. Feel free to revert my edits on Armia's article if you dont think it should be there. Thanks. – Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 18:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
If a player has played internationally at the senior level, but not in a tournament, should the national team go in the infobox? Wheatzilopochtli ( talk) 18:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)