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16 teams have team history articles ( Template:NBA team histories). Is there a good reason why the other 14 teams do not have team history articles? Namely, Raptors, Bulls, Bucks, Hawks, Pistons, Magic, Wizards, Nuggets, Timberwolves, Jazz, Clippers, Suns, Kings, Spurs - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 02:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Because no one has been passionate enough to create them haha?
Rikster2 (
talk) 14:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- And that passion often just leads to a bunch of
WP:OR, cherry-picked fan memories, or mass duplication of what's in (or should already be in) individual team season articles, instead of basing the history on reliable sources that curate the franchise's highlights. —
Bagumba (
talk) 15:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- There is definitely enough rich history to carry articles for these teams, especially franchises like the Pistons, Hawks and Spurs. But these articles take a very long time to create well. And the person needs to be willing to do real research. Much faster to produce player/coach articles or lists. Rikster2 ( talk) 15:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- And that passion often just leads to a bunch of
WP:OR, cherry-picked fan memories, or mass duplication of what's in (or should already be in) individual team season articles, instead of basing the history on reliable sources that curate the franchise's highlights. —
Bagumba (
talk) 15:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a Franchise History Column on the page of all those teams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodboy70 ( talk • contribs) 21:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
I might create the Michael Jordan series equivalent for Kobe and LBJ. Any reason why it would be deleted? - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 06:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The main reason, even the Jordan one, they could be deleted is that they don't really refer to each other. The commonality is just the player, not that the subtopics are intertwined. Like a relative, a movie, a statue, and a restuarant have little to do with each other. Per the
WP:SIDEBAR guideline:
This is more appropriate for very large topics like World War II. — Bagumba ( talk) 07:30, 4 April 2024 (UTC)Navigation templates located in the top-right corner of articles (sometimes called a "sidebar" or "part of a series" template) should be treated with special attention, because they are so prominently displayed to readers. The collection of articles in a sidebar template should be fairly tightly related, and the template should meet most or all of the preceding guidelines. If the articles are not tightly related, a footer template or navbox, located at the bottom of the article, may be more appropriate.
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Carmelo Anthony, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. —
Bagumba (
talk) 03:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Looking at CAT:PROD, there appear to be a few articles proposed for deletion on basketball teams that may be of interest:
Can anyone determine if these are notable? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 15:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
On April 9, Curry went 6–6 on threes ( https://www.espn.com/nba/recap/_/gameId/401585783). I know that Jalen Brunson tied the NBA record this year with a 9-9, so it is not nearly an NBA record for single-game threes without a miss. However, Steph has never gone more than 4–4 without a miss before. I believe this might be a Warriors record (based on my cursory look at his game logs). Nonetheless, statmuse.com does not include the performance ( https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/most-3-point-shots-made-without-a-miss-in-a-game-in-golden-state-history), but seems support 6–6 as a team record. I want to drop it in Stephen_Curry#Records as a shared record, but can't find any support for this.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- If there was a Golden State Warriors accomplishments and records article (similar to Los Angeles Lakers accomplishments and records), perhaps that would be a good place to put that information. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 03:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @
TonyTheTiger, Adding it to
Golden State Warriors#Franchise leaders and awards would probably not fit. Other option is to add record to
List of career achievements by Stephen Curry but that article is most likely going to be deleted because of
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Larry Bird. -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 04:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
-
User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, it looks like a lot of these lists have been trashed. Is that content really being deleted or is it being merged back?-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 15:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ TonyTheTiger, Perhaps some of it should have been merged to main article but I believe they did not. They already deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Dwight Howard, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Carmelo Anthony , Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Chris Paul and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Dwyane Wade (2nd nomination). - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 18:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am not sure how I feel about those deletions personally but that is the consensus. Their reasoning is WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTSTATS. But it might also have to do with WP:NOEFFORT and lacking sources. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 18:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, it looks like a lot of these lists have been trashed. Is that content really being deleted or is it being merged back?-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 15:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
It seems that Tyus Jones has not only led the NBA in assists:turnover ratio for a sixth consecutive season, but also surpassed his previous the NBA single-season record for a second time (min 200 assists) 327/47 (6.95, 2018–19) 324/46 (7.04, 2021–22) to 485/66 (7.35, 2023–24). I don't seem to be able to find a WP:RS for this fact.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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This is the closest i've got with 2 games left.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 19:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I thought USA Today is an RS source? -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 00:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, The problem is that the season did not end until April 14. That source was written with at least 2 games remaining.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 03:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- More articles will be written about him and the record after the playoffs. Wait around until offseason. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 04:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, The problem is that the season did not end until April 14. That source was written with at least 2 games remaining.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 03:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources says USA Today is a good RS source, at least I think? - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 00:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I thought USA Today is an RS source? -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 00:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is this an WP:RS?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:09, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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this seems to be an RS for leadership, but does not mention the record.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 19:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Tyus’ season-best record needs to be updated on
NBA records as well. -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 20:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- That list only has sourced records it seems. I need a source.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Tyus’ season-best record needs to be updated on
NBA records as well. -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 20:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
ResolvedAt List of NBA regular season records, Anthony Davis is listed at Youngest/Oldest to lead the league in blocks as the Youngest: Anthony Davis at 21 years, 36 days (on April 16, 2014), averaging 2.8 blocks per game. I do not see a source for this record which does not matter for this list because Victor Wembanyama surpassed that record this year, but it does matter because I would like to include the fact that he held the record for 10 seasons in his bio. I have a source for Wembanyama.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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User:Tbb 911, who has not made an edit in over 100 days was the person who
added that fact.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 05:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Source found.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
User:BeFriendlyGoodSir and I have been talking about changes needed at the listing at List of NBA awards. Basically we were thinking about in season awards NBA Player of the month, Coach of the month, Player of the Week and Rookie of the Month seem to all be official NBA awards that we don't list or even have articles for. In addition, the NBA CUP MVP seems like it is official enough to be listed in that infobox. Thoughts?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- They are mentioned separately in each NBA season's article (see 2023–24 NBA season#Players of the Week) but not in List of NBA awards as you say. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 21:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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16 teams have team history articles ( Template:NBA team histories). Is there a good reason why the other 14 teams do not have team history articles? Namely, Raptors, Bulls, Bucks, Hawks, Pistons, Magic, Wizards, Nuggets, Timberwolves, Jazz, Clippers, Suns, Kings, Spurs - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 02:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Because no one has been passionate enough to create them haha?
Rikster2 (
talk) 14:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- And that passion often just leads to a bunch of
WP:OR, cherry-picked fan memories, or mass duplication of what's in (or should already be in) individual team season articles, instead of basing the history on reliable sources that curate the franchise's highlights. —
Bagumba (
talk) 15:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- There is definitely enough rich history to carry articles for these teams, especially franchises like the Pistons, Hawks and Spurs. But these articles take a very long time to create well. And the person needs to be willing to do real research. Much faster to produce player/coach articles or lists. Rikster2 ( talk) 15:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- And that passion often just leads to a bunch of
WP:OR, cherry-picked fan memories, or mass duplication of what's in (or should already be in) individual team season articles, instead of basing the history on reliable sources that curate the franchise's highlights. —
Bagumba (
talk) 15:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
There is a Franchise History Column on the page of all those teams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodboy70 ( talk • contribs) 21:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
I might create the Michael Jordan series equivalent for Kobe and LBJ. Any reason why it would be deleted? - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 06:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The main reason, even the Jordan one, they could be deleted is that they don't really refer to each other. The commonality is just the player, not that the subtopics are intertwined. Like a relative, a movie, a statue, and a restuarant have little to do with each other. Per the
WP:SIDEBAR guideline:
This is more appropriate for very large topics like World War II. — Bagumba ( talk) 07:30, 4 April 2024 (UTC)Navigation templates located in the top-right corner of articles (sometimes called a "sidebar" or "part of a series" template) should be treated with special attention, because they are so prominently displayed to readers. The collection of articles in a sidebar template should be fairly tightly related, and the template should meet most or all of the preceding guidelines. If the articles are not tightly related, a footer template or navbox, located at the bottom of the article, may be more appropriate.
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Carmelo Anthony, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. —
Bagumba (
talk) 03:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Looking at CAT:PROD, there appear to be a few articles proposed for deletion on basketball teams that may be of interest:
Can anyone determine if these are notable? BeanieFan11 ( talk) 15:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
On April 9, Curry went 6–6 on threes ( https://www.espn.com/nba/recap/_/gameId/401585783). I know that Jalen Brunson tied the NBA record this year with a 9-9, so it is not nearly an NBA record for single-game threes without a miss. However, Steph has never gone more than 4–4 without a miss before. I believe this might be a Warriors record (based on my cursory look at his game logs). Nonetheless, statmuse.com does not include the performance ( https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/most-3-point-shots-made-without-a-miss-in-a-game-in-golden-state-history), but seems support 6–6 as a team record. I want to drop it in Stephen_Curry#Records as a shared record, but can't find any support for this.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- If there was a Golden State Warriors accomplishments and records article (similar to Los Angeles Lakers accomplishments and records), perhaps that would be a good place to put that information. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 03:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @
TonyTheTiger, Adding it to
Golden State Warriors#Franchise leaders and awards would probably not fit. Other option is to add record to
List of career achievements by Stephen Curry but that article is most likely going to be deleted because of
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Larry Bird. -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 04:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
-
User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, it looks like a lot of these lists have been trashed. Is that content really being deleted or is it being merged back?-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 15:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ TonyTheTiger, Perhaps some of it should have been merged to main article but I believe they did not. They already deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Dwight Howard, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Carmelo Anthony , Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Chris Paul and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Dwyane Wade (2nd nomination). - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 18:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am not sure how I feel about those deletions personally but that is the consensus. Their reasoning is WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTSTATS. But it might also have to do with WP:NOEFFORT and lacking sources. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 18:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
-
User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, it looks like a lot of these lists have been trashed. Is that content really being deleted or is it being merged back?-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 15:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
It seems that Tyus Jones has not only led the NBA in assists:turnover ratio for a sixth consecutive season, but also surpassed his previous the NBA single-season record for a second time (min 200 assists) 327/47 (6.95, 2018–19) 324/46 (7.04, 2021–22) to 485/66 (7.35, 2023–24). I don't seem to be able to find a WP:RS for this fact.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
-
This is the closest i've got with 2 games left.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 19:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I thought USA Today is an RS source? -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 00:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
-
User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, The problem is that the season did not end until April 14. That source was written with at least 2 games remaining.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 03:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- More articles will be written about him and the record after the playoffs. Wait around until offseason. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 04:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
-
User:BeFriendlyGoodSir, The problem is that the season did not end until April 14. That source was written with at least 2 games remaining.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 03:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources says USA Today is a good RS source, at least I think? - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 00:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I thought USA Today is an RS source? -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 00:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is this an WP:RS?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:09, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
-
this seems to be an RS for leadership, but does not mention the record.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 19:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Tyus’ season-best record needs to be updated on
NBA records as well. -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 20:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- That list only has sourced records it seems. I need a source.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Tyus’ season-best record needs to be updated on
NBA records as well. -
BeFriendlyGoodSir (
talk) 20:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
ResolvedAt List of NBA regular season records, Anthony Davis is listed at Youngest/Oldest to lead the league in blocks as the Youngest: Anthony Davis at 21 years, 36 days (on April 16, 2014), averaging 2.8 blocks per game. I do not see a source for this record which does not matter for this list because Victor Wembanyama surpassed that record this year, but it does matter because I would like to include the fact that he held the record for 10 seasons in his bio. I have a source for Wembanyama.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
-
User:Tbb 911, who has not made an edit in over 100 days was the person who
added that fact.-
TonyTheTiger (
T /
C /
WP:FOUR /
WP:CHICAGO /
WP:WAWARD) 05:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Source found.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
User:BeFriendlyGoodSir and I have been talking about changes needed at the listing at List of NBA awards. Basically we were thinking about in season awards NBA Player of the month, Coach of the month, Player of the Week and Rookie of the Month seem to all be official NBA awards that we don't list or even have articles for. In addition, the NBA CUP MVP seems like it is official enough to be listed in that infobox. Thoughts?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- They are mentioned separately in each NBA season's article (see 2023–24 NBA season#Players of the Week) but not in List of NBA awards as you say. - BeFriendlyGoodSir ( talk) 21:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)